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She's watching a woman here.

There's like something off about this guy.

I'm scared to work here at this point. It's made me run out of the building.

I've been followed around by something.

I think he wants to hurt her.

He draws his gun on her and shoots her in the head.

He wants to do what he wants to do and he wants to cut.

I don't want my daughter working here.

He's got something inside of him.

Very bad.

Like a darkness.

Ooh, the dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

There is a skinwalker here.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

He wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They're blocking the life out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShop.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

Is that what I think it is?

Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I told you he was trying to

kill me.

We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside too.

So I'm out here in Lancaster, California. It's a desert town about 70

north of L .A. I got a call from a woman named Alyssa who runs the Cedar Center

Museum.

She sounded terrified, said the activity there is out of control.

Now, this place is an important part of the city's history, but Alyssa says

there's no two ways around it. If we can't find a solution, the museum is

to have to shut down.

I don't like it here.

There's something actually wrong here.

It's really disturbing.

Something happened here.

So, Alyssa, it's nice to finally meet you.

When we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty upset by the things that are

going on here.

Yeah, so we've had staff having experiences.

People are getting really scared. It's hard to schedule people over here.

It's like something wants to hurt you. It doesn't want you to be here, and it

wants you to feel afraid.

I'm scared to work here at this point.

I know there's a museum here somewhere, but what's all this?

So this is the Theater Center for the Art. It's part of the Lancaster Museum

Art and History. Okay. And we manage multiple complexes here on the boulevard

and elsewhere in town.

Okay, so you've got buildings doing all kinds of things. Definitely.

This is actually a California historic landmark, and it was registered as that

because one of the oldest structures here is actually out back at the jail.

I'm interested in that jail. I'll have to look into that.

Yeah.

So, Alyssa, is everyone that works here having experiences?

Yes, all the staff is having experiences. Okay.

So, Alyssa, do me a favor. Since everybody's having experiences, give me

of what's going on.

So, people are hearing voices.

They're having sudden mood changes.

things have moved on their own, and definitely being stopped.

I've heard people say they felt like they've been watched, but being stopped,

that's a whole other ballgame.

Yeah, it's made me run out of the building, out of fear.

Are you worried about people that come here to visit, that they may have

experiences or maybe get hurt, possibly?

Yeah, there's definitely, if anybody gets hurt, that would be the ultimate

thing, where we just don't know how we'd really continue on or what we would do

at that point.

So you've been here for a few years. I mean, what do you think is here?

I'm hoping that it's just a spirit that's a little angry and needs to move

I'm hoping that it's nothing darker than that.

Oh, no.

There's death here. Death is here.

So what do you mean by death?

Basically, death.

Grim Reaper.

I think that death came here a long time ago and just stayed.

And I don't know why death would be standing by here. It's very strange.

And it liked or liked what's going on here.

Definitely has a post.

Like, I feel almost like it was posted here.

It's a little dark.

Like, enjoys its job too much kind of thing.

What kind of effect would that have on the living here?

Probably feeling fear at times.

Paranoia, like dying, you know, fears of death, like randomly.

So listen, it's a pretty interesting building. What made you bring me up

When I come here, I get extremely anxious and afraid.

So is this only when you're alone?

Well, I'm kind of feeling anxious right now. Like I need to watch my back and

stuff, even being here with you. Really?

What else?

I also get this feeling like I'm being watched and that there's somebody kind

peering and leering over me. Is it just like somebody standing behind you?

Definitely like someone's following you around kind of over your shoulder to the

point where, yeah, you just want to leave. You just feel uncomfortable.

And that's up here as well? Mm -hmm.

All right, so anything else?

I felt like I was being followed. I was walking down these stairs to leave, and

I heard creaking on the stairs behind me.

Did you look to see if anybody was there?

No, my brain just told me not to look and to just take off. So what are you

hoping we can do for you guys as far as our investigation?

I really just want to find out what it is, who it is. It feels like something

wants to hurt me and harm me.

Okay.

There is a male here.

I feel like he's odd.

There's like something off about this guy.

He's got something inside of him that... Very bad.

Like a darkness.

When he's around, I think that the living may feel this, like, sense of

impending doom.

Do you know why he's here?

I think he likes looking at people.

It's, like, not good.

Also, I think the living do see him.

I feel like he's watching women, and he's got some real issues there with

This is not a good situation.

So, Lauren, I was talking to Alyssa earlier, and she thinks the paranormal

activity in this place can be pretty dangerous. I mean, do you agree with

Yeah, I definitely agree that it's a malicious kind of feeling. I think it's

very dangerous presence.

I assume you've had experiences?

Yeah, I've had a few experiences here. Okay, so let's talk about them.

Before coming here, I'll be fine, come here, and there have been more than one

occasion where I get irritable, almost angry, and kind of nappy at people,

that's not my usual demeanor. It's very unusual for me.

Are you taking any kind of medication that may change your mood?

No, I don't take any medication. Okay, so there's no medication issues.

No. When you leave here, does it go away or does it stay with you? It goes away.

Okay, so anything else?

There was one time I just got really sick, sick to my stomach. A headache

on almost immediately to the point where I had to leave early.

I mean, could it be like one of those 24 -hour bugs?

I have a really good immune system. I don't get sick too often.

So you've had a few physical things. Anything else?

I've also felt like I've been stalked here, like I've been followed around by

something when I'm in the building.

Now, is anyone in the building with you when you feel that way? No.

That's got to be a little unnerving that you're by yourself here and hearing

that. Yeah, it's very unsettling.

So any ideas of whatever she wants?

I feel like it's almost territorial, feels like this is its space, and

comes in is invading that, and it wants to protect its space.

Okay.

This odd dead guy who likes to watch people is a big problem here.

He seems to be focused on a female.

I feel like he's watching a woman here.

I think he wants to hurt her.

Is he a living person?

Yes, I think so.

Are they aware of that at all, his presence?

I don't know. All I know about her is she's got lighter colored hair and

younger, but not too young. So maybe in her

30s, that's really all I can get on her.

Basically, he just wants to cut her up.

So, Emily, how long have you been working here?

I've been working here for three years now.

Okay. Have you had any experiences since you've been here?

There are some things that have happened here that I just can't explain.

Okay, so let's talk about it. On the second floor, I often feel like I'm

watched, like someone or something is there.

Have you guys had break -ins here?

We have had a few.

So with the break -ins here, do you think maybe your mind's playing games

that's why you think you're being washed upstairs?

I don't think so. And even when we have had those few break -ins, we had like

sound equipment at one point that someone came in, they just took that

it was very obvious they were just, they were breaking in just to, you know, see

what was here and then leave. Anything else? A lot of times when I come here

I just, I...

I feel very anxious, and I just, I feel very uncomfortable.

Do you have an issue with anxiety?

I do actually experience a lot of anxiety, but I take medication for it.

like, I know that kind of anxiety, and it's different.

Okay. Is there anything else you could tell me about?

Yeah, I've also heard stories from some of our patrons and guests that come into

the museum that when they've been in, walking around the galleries, looking at

the artwork, they kind of just felt someone kind of lightly touch them.

It's not really good to have customers having experiences.

It's best for everybody involved to figure out what the hell is here and get

of it, no matter what.

So I'm curious of what you think is here and causing all this. I can't say for

sure. I just know that when I'm here, I feel like there's some kind of an energy

where I'm just really uncomfortable.

Okay.

I'm, like, seeing elderly people in, like, military outfits.

They definitely don't want to be here anymore. I do think that the living

have a lot of experiences with these guys. I think it would be more fear

I think that they have tried to make people afraid so that they'll leave.

I know that one of them was blowing on the back of their neck, blowing in their

ear, you know, messing with their hair, especially with women.

I think that they could be more aggressive with males.

So like grabbing arms.

flight pushes, things of that nature.

I think that often they try to make themselves visible to the living, but

not exactly sure how they're manifesting.

So, Deja, you work here at the building?

Yes, I worked here for three years.

I talked to some of your colleagues that work here, and they're pretty scared

about the...

Stuff that's going on here. Do you believe them?

I would definitely say something weird is going on. I have had some weird

happen to me.

Okay, so let's talk about that. Like what?

I spend a lot of time here alone, and it always feels like maybe there's someone

else in the building when I know that there's not. Any thoughts on what it

be? Just a presence.

So do you get any sense of this presence, if it's ominous, if it's...

Okay, I mean... It definitely makes me feel uncomfortable.

Do you think it's just because it's an old building, maybe you're creeping

yourself out? I like to tell myself that I'm just freaking myself out. Okay.

Anything else?

Things go missing, and they end up in really strange places that I can't

for. What are we talking about? There's some keys, a security camera, a drill.

Right away, I'm skeptical things come to mind. Is somebody stealing this stuff,

or is somebody playing games?

What's your thoughts on it?

My first thought is always someone broke in.

But then there weren't any signs of being broken into.

So anything else you could tell me about?

There are times when I feel like I hear voices in the room next to me. Like

they're behind the wall next to me or they're right behind the door. But

always mumbling and I can't tell what they're saying.

Could you make out if it's a man or a woman? I can't really tell. It always

sounds like really faint mumbling.

Are you sure it's not coming from outside?

It's a busy street out here.

It always sounds close. It sounds like it's right next to me. Okay. So I got to

assume getting scheduled alone at night here is not a good thing for you. Yeah,

it's pretty uncomfortable because things only happen when I'm alone and usually

it gets a little creepier at night.

Okay.

There's a lot of residual energy here. The living might experience being in

here.

feeling like there's a lot of people moving around them. It's like you're

walking through a room that's filled with people.

I think that the living would probably, you know, hear things from

the past.

I think people talking, I think music, people laughing.

Those are the three biggest things that I think the living might occasionally

hear.

I feel a lot of people coming in here being

very lost. And that's just heavy here. It's very heavy and thick in the air. So

it's a hard place to be in emotionally.

It makes me feel scared and uneasy for sure.

So Alyssa told me the museum is registered as an historic landmark and

of its oldest buildings used to be a jail.

So I reached out to a local genealogist who says she's right and that it was

also the scene of a heartbreaking death.

Well, Jane, thanks for meeting with me and helping me out with this case.

we get to the death we spoke about on the phone, what do we really know about

the property I'm investigating?

been used for a lot of different functions from the county courthouse,

county library.

There was even a mental health center here for a short period of time.

Okay, so the location I'm investigating had a real colorful history.

Absolutely. So Jane, I'm curious, when was the jail running?

The jail was built about 1920, which makes it one of the oldest buildings on

property. So I'm assuming since the jail was there, a lot of old lives in town

went through there as well.

Yeah, if you got arrested in Lancaster, you pretty much spent time at the jail.

Okay.

I'm seeing those elderly men in the military outfits again.

About how many?

Eight or nine.

Something about guards, and they're like milling around, just grumping out at

each other.

They're not happy about, I guess, whatever the...

What happened in this place?

They're very angry, very angry.

There's a reason why they've all gathered out here.

They don't want anybody to know where they

hang.

They want to keep that private.

So Jane, let's talk about this heartbreaking death we spoke about. When

happen and who was involved?

It happened on December 9th, 1962.

A young girl, she was only 19 at the time, Marion Budell, walked into the

at the mental health center, climbed the water tower, which was 75 feet tall,

and she jumped. The fire department across the street could hear her scream

she fell.

So I've seen a lot of people drop that fall. Most of them die on impact. What

about her?

Unfortunately, she lived.

For a while, she hit a metal fence on the way down, and it fractured her spine

and caused brain damage.

So how long did she hang on?

Well, she died about 10 the next morning in the hospital. The authorities ruled

it a suicide, even though there was no note.

Any thoughts of why she did this?

We can only speculate. She may have been pregnant. She may have been using

drugs. We'll probably never know.

But what we do know is that she had been experiencing severe depression.

and had been seeing a psychiatrist, perhaps even one who practiced at the

health center.

You know, I've seen thousands of these suicides, young people that just have

their whole life in front of them. And why?

That's the big question. Why? What put you to that point that you want to kill

yourself? It's a tragedy. She was an attractive, well -liked girl.

Nobody saw this coming.

It's a lot of sickness out here.

I see like three.

Women drugged out of their mind.

They seem disturbed.

They're drugged, drugged up.

I feel like somebody got harmed here. I do believe it's a female.

Uh -oh.

I feel like I'm being hit on the side of my head, on the left side of my head.

That is not good.

So I just got a call from a retired detective who's been doing some digging

me. He found a double homicide down the street from the museum.

He says this was a brutal crime and the killer was a coward until the last

minute of his life.

Craig, thanks for helping me out with this case. I appreciate it. Before we

to this bloody mess, what can you tell me about this guy?

Here's the gentleman we're talking about. His name is Oscar Brust.

He's originally from Montana, moved out here to Lancaster in 1953.

He came out here with his second wife, Mildred Johnson.

She also had two kids from a previous marriage, Curtis, 16, and Kay Johnson.

All right, so we know this doesn't end well, or else we wouldn't be sitting

here. What happened?

Mildred and Oscar had a series of marital problems over the years, and

described Oscar as being a bad provider.

of being an abuser, and she actually said that he was a bad lover, and she

ultimately filed for divorce.

So this couldn't have sat well with Oscar?

No, this didn't sit good with Oscar. On October 29, 1954, Oscar gets involved in

a verbal dispute with Mildred.

Okay. During this argument, he winds up getting physical.

He hits her, and he winds up storming out of this house.

The next morning at 5 a .m., he comes back to the house, but this time armed

with a .45 caliber pistol.

He enters the house, and he confronts Mildred. He draws his gun on her and

shoots her in the head.

The gunshots actually wake up Kay, 14 -year -old stepdaughter.

She starts to scream, and he shoots her twice.

Then he goes straight into Curtis's room and shoots him in the head while he was

sleeping. So we got to assume he kills all three of them.

Well, yes and no.

Actually, stepdaughter Kay, she wound up playing dead, bought her enough time to

contact the sheriff's station.

Check that out.

All right, so smart girl. Good for her. When the deputies arrived at the

apartment, they found Oscar sitting in a chair with a gun in his hand. He

actually turned the gun on himself four times.

but it jammed, and his suicide attempt failed.

Obviously, they call it a guy. Does he take a plea?

Does he go to trial? What happened?

Actually, Steve, he makes a full confession to deputies after he's

Okay. Case winds up going to trial, and ultimately, this guy was sentenced to

death. All right, please tell me they executed this guy.

Actually, Steve, on the night before he was supposed to be executed, Oscar winds

up slitting his throat with a piece of broken glass from the mirror in the

Ooh. He finally killed himself at the age of 47.

All right, so he cheated the hangman.

This guy had to be a psychopath. I mean, to kill kids and then slit your own

throat with a mirror? It's crazy.

I'm seeing that odd dead guy who likes to watch women again.

I would put him, like, you know, maybe between, you know, 1901 and 1910.

I think he died around the age of 47.

He's wearing, like, an old suit, and I think it's black. Some people have seen

this male.

He bothers me.

Does bother me.

Like, I don't really feel good about this guy.

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So far, I've got a client worried about the safety of her employees and guests

on a property where a young woman committed suicide by jumping off a water

tower. But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I find a deadly fire at a hotel that used to be

right across the street from the museum.

I'm heading over to meet a local historian who knows all about this

So, Dale, I want to thank you for helping me out with this case.

Do me a favor, though. Before we get to this fire, what can you tell me about

this place?

Well, we're in the Western Hotel, and Merti Weber was the owner of the hotel

the 1930s. Okay. And this is a photo of Merti right here. So that's Merti? Yes.

Okay, so what can you tell me about Merti? Well, Merti was an upstanding

of this town, and she was a volunteer nurse during the 1918 flu

pandemic. She was known for her community service.

Okay, so was she a married woman? She have kids, anything like that?

A couple of years after she came to Lancaster, she met an Englishman named

George Weber. He just purchased the Western, and they eventually married in

and started running the hotel together.

Here's a photo of Merti, George, and the kids.

And they housed all the miners and workers from the aqueduct in the hotel.

How many people are we talking about?

Well, they had up to 250 people at one time.

250? I mean, this place doesn't look that big.

Well, actually, they had a lot of land.

They built a tent city right next to the hotel.

Okay, so whatever they couldn't fit in the hotel, they put in these tents. Yes.

So what happened with the fire?

Well, on June 26, 1935, Merti invited her good friend Eunice Gordon over.

On that day, Murdy called the gas company to send somebody out to repair

pilot light on the water heater in the basement.

Oh, okay. I can already see where this is going.

Unfortunately, the repairman lit a match, and it blew the whole place up.

Murdy managed to smother the flames out and crawl out the door.

All right, so it sounds like Murdy's okay, but how did Eunice make out?

Unfortunately, she died. She had third -degree burns all over her body.

What a horrible way to go.

So what happened to this guy down in the basement? Did he ever make it?

Yes, he did. He survived.

All right, now, you had mentioned the building was on fire.

Did it do okay? What happened?

Well, the building was destroyed.

Merti had to build everything from the ground up again.

She continued to run the hotel until the 1960s, and she died in 1978 at the

young age of 110.

Wow. Okay, so this woman is incredible, to say the least, right? She is.

She's still a legend in this town.

I see a male and a female. I would put them in their 60s, and they sit, like,

side by side as close as possible.

The male is dressed in all black, and the female has short, curly, gray, and

dark brown hair.

I believe that they were very wealthy, very well -known. They definitely did

something in the community, and it feels like he's in charge.

I am seeing, like, him in the newspaper.

Something happened.

Hearing more of the 1930s, 1940s.

So there's something going on in this family that is not good.

I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but the odd dead man stalking a

living woman has me the most concerned. I want to put him peering out menacingly

from this doorway, looking at this female.

He's on the thinner side.

So there's a stage in the background.

She has curly hair.

Does she have any particular expression?

She's looking a little like she knows she's being stalked.

Amy, is that what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,

We're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first

time. So guys, I'd like you to meet Amy. She's going to be doing a reveal from

another room so she can concentrate on your case and the dead without any

distractions. Amy, meet Alyssa and her co -worker Lauren.

Now, if you haven't guessed by now, this place is a museum, but it's also very

important to the community here.

But activity is bad.

Employees are scared to come to work, and these guys are worried if someone

should get hurt.

There might be lights out for the museum.

So they're hoping that by the end of the night, you can help them find a way to

make this place safe again.

Amy may have some questions. If not, she'll tell us about her walk.

When I walked the space next door... That's the gallery. Okay. I encountered

death immediately.

So what do you mean by death?

Basically, it's death.

Grim Reaper.

What kind of effect would that have on the living here?

Probably feeling fear at times, paranoia of, like, dying, you know, fears of

death, like, randomly.

I felt that this death has been around for quite some time.

It does travel through the different buildings and property, and it felt a

little twisted and a little off.

It made me feel uneasy.

I do think that the living would feel this kind of heaviness, especially when

this particular death is around.

So I thought maybe the living would have these strange moments of like out of

nowhere, having that sudden fear of like dying and like paranoias about it.

Now, Alyssa, you told me about a time that you actually ran out of here.

Tell Amy about that.

I was upstairs.

And at a certain point, I just got this random feeling of I feel unwelcome. I

feel uneasy.

So I started to leave.

And on the stairs, I actually felt and heard something behind me. And so

of looking and checking it out, I just took off. I just left the building.

When I'm here, I just have a general, like you mentioned, a feeling of

uneasiness, of just uncomfortable, just very unsettling darkness almost.

Okay, yeah.

Makes sense.

All right, Amy, what else?

So I did encounter a dead male and a dead female.

They are really present here. They were very wealthy, very well -known. I

got that they did do a lot of stuff for the community here. The woman was

a very good person.

The man was a businessman.

He was a mover and a shaker. He was very much in charge.

Amy, I got a pretty good idea.

I know who you're describing.

I'm thinking of a woman named Merti Weber.

Now, Merti Weber owned a hotel right across the street here. It was called

Western Hotel, and now it's actually owned by the museum.

Now, a few years after Merti came to Lancaster, she married a successful

businessman named George Weber.

Now, George purchased the hotel in 1910, and the two ran it together.

Now, the hotel was pretty much the only game in town back then. At the time,

they opened up their doors to hundreds of workers who lived temporarily on the

grounds because they were here working in the mines and stuff like that.

Now, you said this woman was a good person.

Well, Murty was one of the leading citizens in town, known for her

service. Matter of fact, during the 1918 flu epidemic, she volunteered as a

nurse.

Now, the woman's a legend in this town, and she lived till she was 110 years

old, which is mind -boggling to me.

So I got a photo here of Murdy, George, and the two kids.

So is there any chance that Murdy and George were the couple you saw?

It's her, yeah.

She looks like the lady for sure.

Okay. I have researched Murdy a lot, and she did a lot for the community, so I

don't mind her being around.

It's nice to know that she's still here.

So what else?

When I walked into the courtyard, I ran into several conscious dead

people. There were about eight or nine elderly men.

They all had military uniforms on.

And I did hear them saying, you know, things like officer and guard, which I

believe were different.

jobs that they had maybe after the military.

They feel that this place is theirs.

There's a lot of resentment and anger with them because of how they feel it's

not what it was for them. These guys do interact with the living quite

frequently here because they do want the living out.

I know that one of them...

was blowing on the back of their neck, blowing in their ear, messing with their

hair, especially with women.

You just feel a sort of aggressive presence just following you around.

There was an instance where there was a group of people upstairs, and one of the

females kept turning around and saying, like, stop doing that. She thought

somebody was touching her hair and touching the back of her neck.

Interesting. I hate to see young ladies.

Have a stressful work environment.

It's like I do fear that I'm going to get hurt or that something's going to

happen, particularly to me.

Now, you said something about these angry old men being officers and guards.

Now, you guys think of what I'm thinking?

Yeah. This property and the building have gone through a lot of changes over

years. The 1920s to the 60s, it was a jail. Oh.

In fact, that structure is still standing out back.

So there was plenty of guards walking around here for decades.

Expert I spoke to said that anybody that got arrested in town went to this jail.

It came to an end in 1962, but then the place became a mental health center and

served military veterans.

Hmm. I'm wondering if that's why she saw all these military people. I mean,

yeah.

All right, so what else?

One of my biggest concerns is this male that I encountered.

I refer to him as the odd man.

I really felt uncomfortable around him. I felt like he was mentally unfound. He

was wearing an old black baggy suit.

So I wasn't sure what the heck he did during his life. But he also was a

criminal. And he is not good around women.

I did see the letter J associated with him.

But he was in his... his later 40s, like around 47 when he died.

Oh, there's a guy that came across my research that may fit that description.

The man's name was Oscar Bruce.

Now, he was a mailman who moved to Lancaster in 1953.

Now, he was on his second marriage. At this time, he was married to a woman

named Mildred Johnson.

I'm wondering if that's where the J may be coming to effect here.

Now, Mildred had two kids from a previous marriage.

A 16 -year -old named Curtis and a 14 -year -old named Kay.

Now, you said this guy had issues with women. So did Oscar.

Oscar and Mildred went through a messy divorce in 1954.

She said he was abusive physically, he was a bad provider, and that he was a

terrible lover.

Not something any man wants to hear.

Things came to a head on October 29th, 1954.

Oscar was at his house where he used to live and they were getting into a fight

over alimony.

During the argument, Oscar slapped Mildred around and then he left. They

back at 5 a .m., but this time with a .45 automatic.

Put one in Mildred's head.

Curtis was sleeping and he shot him in the head while he was asleep.

He shot the daughter, Kay, twice.

Now, Mildred and Curtis died instantly, but Kay was lucky and survived because

she played like she was dead and she was able to call the cops. So the cops grab

him, gives a full confession.

They go to trial. He gets the death penalty.

The night before he's supposed to be executed, he gets a broken mirror and

his throat, and he kills himself.

She said that he was probably 47.

Well, Oscar was 47 when he killed himself.

I got a picture of Oscar here.

This is Oscar.

Is it possible Oscar might be the guy? Why would he be here?

His house was less than a quarter of a mile from here. It was an apartment

he was found. Yeah.

Makes sense.

You said he was concerned.

Yeah, I don't like him. The reason why he's here is not good for any person,

especially women.

He is definitely like a lurker, like he likes to watch.

And I know that he's keyed in on one living woman here.

All I know about her is that she's got lighter colored hair, probably in her

30s. And what he was thinking...

When I was standing with him, it was like him wanting to cut her up.

This is something that isn't a first time with him. You know, like something

may have even done when he was alive at some point and thoroughly enjoyed.

So he's looking to hurt somebody? I feel like he definitely would like to and is

planning on it.

Of all the girls I interviewed, you're the one with the lightest hair.

Yeah. In your 20s.

That can't be a good feeling. No, it's not a good feeling.

A lot of the time, almost anywhere in the building, I feel like someone's

behind me, following me around, watching my every move.

So I had a sketch done of what I saw him doing.

Pretty creepy.

Yeah.

That really freaks me out.

The other day I mentioned that it felt like someone was peeking around the

doorway, staring at you, watching your every move.

He is wanting to harm.

He wants to do what he wants to do in the way he wants to do it, and he wants

cut.

I wouldn't want my daughter working here, I'll tell you that.

I've got to tell you, I'm damn glad I took this case because it's obvious you

ladies aren't safe here.

Now the question is, can you kick this psycho out of here along with everybody

else that needs to go and keep the doors of the museum open, or do you have to

cut your losses and turn out the lights?

For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

So I'm going to suggest that you bring in a team.

So who exactly is going to be in this team?

A Reiki master, a psychic medium.

It's an eclectic group. And I am thinking there might be a little bit of

witchcraft involved. And the first thing that they should do is to move on

the female upstairs.

We're talking about Merti Weber?

Yes. The other thing I will have them do is to go ahead and listen

to all of these former guards and officers.

It's good news.

Yeah, I'm especially excited about we can, you know, kind of purge what's here

out of it and make everyone feel comfortable. That's comforting as well.

that we can freely come and go as we please or do what we need to do is very

comforting. So no more getting chased out the building?

Thankfully.

Well, you guys seemed a lot better now than when we first sat down. You seem a

little bit more... Relieved. Yeah, definitely. Is that a good word? Yeah,

the perfect word I'd say.

I think I can speak for everybody.

We appreciate you guys coming out and being able to give us some answers.

I really hope Alyssa and Lauren follow my advice and remove all the dead who

stuck inside the museum, especially the odd man.

I believe once they are cleared out, everyone can enjoy this historic

safely for many years to come.