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I see blood on the walls.

A woman says they have trapped us in here.

It's freaky, you know, like my heart's pounding. I don't know what I'm going to

encounter.

That night, both projectors broke on me, like in the middle of the show.

It was like a brutal murder.

He pulls out a .357 and shoots her twice in the chest.

She had been...

Horribly assaulted.

Here I'm just feeling the overwhelming urge to run.

Oh, the dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

There is a skin locker here.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

Who wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They're stalking the life out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShavit. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

Is that what I think it is?

Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I told you he was trying to

kill me.

We're time to get out. You have it, Doug.

Burst them inside you.

So I'm out here in the City of Angels, Los Angeles, California.

I got a call from a guy named Daniel who runs a big Hollywood landmark, the

Silent Theater.

He sounded really bad and said the activity there is out of control.

Now, this place is a very important part of Hollywood history, so closing it is

not an option.

But Daniel's worried if we can't fix things, someone's going to get seriously

hurt.

Okay, I don't like this.

I don't like it. I don't like it.

I'm getting a really bad ViBot display coming in here. All I felt was, like,

evil.

So, Daniel, I got to tell you, this is a hell of a place you got here. Thank

you. So, I'm curious, why did you call us here? There are things that go on

that I cannot explain.

Okay. And...

I don't want anything bad to happen to any of my employees or any of my

customers at all. I can't have bad things happen to my customers, for sure.

So Daniel, when you say strange things you can't explain, what are we talking

about here?

I feel like there's some sort of presence here. Okay.

And I don't know how to deal with it. So Daniel, let's start with some basics.

I mean, how long have you been here?

I moved here from Australia two years ago to run this place.

Oh, so you came here to work here? Yeah, that's right.

I've always loved movies, like ever since I was a little kid. So this is

like a dream job for me.

Did you know anything about this joint? I knew it's a historic building. I knew

it's an important cinema, an important part of LA history, but that's about it.

When did you start noticing activity?

The first time I was alone in the building.

Do me a favor, give me a list of what you guys are experiencing.

There are footsteps.

Staff have felt anxious here.

Things that turn on and off by themselves.

There's like a feeling of being watched.

And it's even gotten physical.

Okay, so you got a lot of things going on.

Let's talk about the feeling of being an anxious. What can you tell me about

that? If I come in here, especially if I'm coming in alone, I will expect

something to happen.

If anything happens, then it really goes through the roof. I go to investigate

and it's, you know, it's freaky. You know, like my heart's pounding. I don't

know what I'm going to encounter.

I'm like looking around corners. I'm jumping at shadows.

So with all this stuff that's going on here, what are you hoping we could do

you? This is a place that I deeply care about.

And I want it to be the best it can be.

I think everyone just wants to not be freaked out when they come to work.

Which is okay.

It's pretty reasonable, right? Right. Okay.

The dad's here.

They want help.

There's a lot of them.

A woman says they have trapped us in here.

So who's trapping them here?

This guy puts them in a glass box.

He told me that he's got everything under control here and that I don't need

bother with this situation.

He looks really creepy. I saw red skin and, like, snake

eyes.

And when I saw that, I heard scoffs.

And so he's walking out, and he turns, and he winks, and his eyes are black.

He's a threat to the dead here.

Any idea how this might affect the living here?

Nausea, pain, feeling intense panic, and then fear.

For no reason.

Problem is, that guy does control everybody here.

Okay, so Danny, you brought me up here. What's going on?

I usually hear footsteps above me, which is just out there, which is the roof.

Okay. Does anybody have access to the roof? No one's got access to the roof.

Okay. Do you hear the footsteps anyplace else?

Sometimes it sounds like almost like they're coming in from the hallway and

there's no one else in the building.

Okay. Anything else?

I get a real sense that I'm being watched.

Okay. So now the feeling of being watched is different for everybody.

what you're feeling. Is it like a peeping Tom type of thing?

Or somebody's standing right behind you?

It's the feeling of someone kind of hovering behind me. Right behind you?

It's not particularly pleasant.

What do you think it is watching you? It feels kind of human, I guess.

Not like an animal watching me or anything like that.

Do you have any clues to what the hell is here?

I have no idea.

This place has been around for a long time.

A lot of people have come through this place.

Who knows?

I'm seeing that creepy -looking guy with the red skin up here.

He has a hammer with him.

He told me that he's keeping up with everything here.

The living may hear him trying to fix...

I think they can hear the dead he's trapping, too. They would hear crying,

a woman crying, possibly hear people struggling and screaming, yelling.

So Claire, I was talking to your boyfriend, Daniel. He told me that you

used to work here.

Yeah, I did social media for them for about three months.

He also told me that you've had some experiences in the theater.

Yeah, I do feel like there has been a presence as well.

Like somebody's watching me, specifically in the hall upstairs.

So over here, this hallway here. That's right, yeah.

You feel like it doesn't want you here?

Maybe not that I'm not wanted here, just that it's...

It's somebody's home at some point, you know? I just feel like... Like you're in

their space?

Yeah. Anything else?

There was this one incident where I heard a voice calling out to me.

All right, so what did you hear?

I thought it was my boyfriend Daniel calling me.

Okay, where was he?

He actually wasn't even in the building.

He was out in the backyard.

Did you confront him and ask him if he called you? I was like, what were you

calling me about? And he was like, I wasn't.

What went through your mind?

Everything. I was really scared. It really shook me.

I think that the living here would hear a lot of people talking.

It's like wicked panic, like screaming and sadness, heart

pounding, so conduced.

The residual energy here is so thick. It feels like an elephant is just sitting

on your chest, just crushing you.

I feel like I'm, like, being assaulted.

And I see blood on the wall.

So, Drew, I understand that you just started working here?

About a month ago.

About a month ago?

Yes. So have you had any experiences since you've been here?

Well, I've heard voices through a spirit box.

Okay, that's the thing that paranormal investigators use.

Yes, we did an investigation with another paranormal team.

So we were in the movie theater, and the paranormal team was just asking a few

questions to start off.

What did you hear?

When they asked if there was a presence here, it was a clear yes.

When they asked how many people here, it was a clear number seven.

All right, so I'm curious. Do you think that maybe anybody in the team was kind

of trying to show off in front of you or maybe trying to play games?

No. Okay, so you thought it was sincere?

Yes, absolutely.

All right, so anything else?

I just got a general feeling of creepiness from that back office up

just the whole corridor itself.

Okay, you're not the only one. That seems to be a prime spot for people.

we do not like it up there.

What are we talking about? How do you feel?

It seems like an energy that doesn't really want people there.

Okay. Is there anything else? The ice machine right behind me just started

shooting out ice.

Is it defective? It's just a non -working ice machine that all of a

throughout the day started shooting out ice sporadically about every half hour.

So, Joe, I'm curious if my partner at the end of the investigation said,

you got something pretty dangerous here.

You've got to be careful or it's going to hurt somebody.

How would you react to that?

I definitely wouldn't feel comfortable being here knowing that. If she gave you

a game plan to try to deal with it, you'd be on board to help out with that?

absolutely. This place is definitely worth trying to save if it came down to

something like that.

As soon as I came in here, it was just a rush of, like, intense energy.

Throws your equilibrium off.

So I think the living might feel vertigo here.

Like getting the spins and feeling just kind of like, ooh.

God, the energy here is like hard to concentrate.

Feels like I cannot breathe.

So, Daryl, I was talking to Daniel, and he told me that you're the projections

tier. Yeah. Do you spend a lot of time here?

Yeah, I've spent a lot of late nights here, toiling away in that booth.

Daniel also mentioned that most of the staff here have had experiences they

can't explain.

Does that include you?

Yes. All right, so do me a favor and tell me about some of the experiences

you've had.

It was the first time I actually ran a full feature film.

Our technicians had spent quite a few months making sure the projectors were

running smoothly.

And that night, both projectors broke on me, like in the middle of the show. And

the film just started spaghetti -ing all over the floor.

Okay, so what makes you think that's a paranormal thing and not just faulty

equipment? They were perfectly tuned, like as, you know, pristine as they

possibly be. And yet, they just both broke on me at the same exact time.

like sabotage. Yeah.

Okay, anything else?

I was here one time late at night working, and I felt a hand just reach

grab my butt. Were you alone?

Yeah, I was here alone.

Okay, and when that happened, how did you react?

My heart was definitely pumping. I nervously laughed a little bit and just

of checked the room, and nothing was behind me.

So I just called it a night, just packed up everything and left.

You're like trying to laugh it off.

Yeah.

I try not to freak myself out, but it was a distinct hand. Like, I felt, like,

fingers, like, grabbing. If it could happen to me, I would be worried if it

could happen to somebody else.

I'm seeing a younger -looking dead person.

This is a woman.

She touches people.

She's touched people on their legs, so they might have heard her.

uh or felt her touching them here i'm just feeling the overwhelming urge to

here i feel like i need to run i need to get the out of here

or or i'm gonna die

One thing about Hollywood, everyone here is either in the entertainment business

or pretending to be.

But I reached out to The Real Deal, a local historian.

He says the original owner of the silent theater loved movies.

Loved them so much, they ended up killing them.

So Dave, I want to thank you for helping me out with this case.

Do me a favor, tell me about the guy that got this theater up and running.

name was John Hampton, and he was a huge silent movie fan.

He began collecting silent films at the age of 13 in Oklahoma City. He buys a

film projector and starts showing silent films in his parents' house to friends

and neighbors and charging them five cents a head.

And that's where he meets his future wife, Dorothy.

Right, so he meets his future wife at a young age.

Yeah, and they got married in 1934.

So in 1940, the couple moved to Los Angeles. So on February 25, 1942, they

opened what they called the Old Time Movie Theater.

And it's a 250 -seat theater, and it's actually in the same building that

investigating right now. I actually have a photo of the grand opening.

And the only films they're showing are silent movies, which are films that are

made pre -1927.

So I assume this is a family -run business.

Yeah. And John's running the projection.

He's doing the two turntables to play the music.

Dorothy has a chair where she's taking tickets on one side and then flipping

around and selling candy on the other side.

All right, so these are two hard -working people.

Yeah. The theater was an immediate success.

They filled the place.

Everybody from Max Bennett to Mae West to Charlie Chaplin would come, and it

took off right away.

All right, so those are big names back in those days. Yeah. Now, Dave, you

mentioned on the phone that movies wound up killing this guy. What do you mean

by that? Well, in addition to collecting films... Hampton was a passionate

preservationist, and Hampton, in preserving us, would put these films in

bathtub and use these noxious chemicals to keep them preserved. But

unfortunately, he winds up breathing a lot of the chemicals in, and it

ultimately led to him getting lung cancer. After 37 successful years,

got to shut the movie theater down. Oh, that's a shame. So the stuff that he

loved so passionately wound up making him sick. So what happened with him?

Ultimately, they had to sell their film collection for $400 ,000 to a wealthy

collector in order to pay for Hampton's medical treatment.

And 11 years later, unfortunately, in 1990, he passes away. And here's a copy

his death certificate from the county.

But that's not the end of the story, because a year after he died in 1991,

wife Dorothy teamed up with a fellow silent film lover named Lawrence Austin,

and they opened the silent movie theater in the same spot. You know, it was a

tough break for this guy, but...

How many people would say they worked with something they loved and did it

whole life?

I'm seeing that guy with the red skin again.

Do you get anything on him in life?

This guy's from back east.

He says he thinks his name is John or Jim.

He thinks he died in the 60s. At the age of 68, he thinks.

He looked younger than what he claims the age he died at. He looked like he's

his early 40s. I believe he has brown hair from what I could see. He has,

a straw hat.

Any idea what his relationship to the place is?

I believe, like, the way he came off to me was that he was some kind of an

owner. He's angry. Angry man.

He's bad.

So I just got a call from my friend Cheryl Dorsey, who's a retired LAPD

sergeant. She tells me there was a murder right in the lobby of the silent

theater. And get this, the victim was one of the owners of the place.

It's great to see you again, Cheryl. I appreciate you helping me out.

On the phone, you mentioned the victim owned the place. Who are we talking

about? So his name is Lawrence Austin. He's a big time movie buff.

Here's a picture of him.

Well, I already came across this guy's name in research. He's the one that

talked the widow of the owner to reopening this place.

Right, so he was able to get Hampton's widow, Dorothy, to allow him to reopen

the theater in 1991, and it became known as the Silent Theater.

All right, so what else do we know about this guy? He was very eccentric, and he

was known for his perfectly done hair, very colorful suit.

He himself was a bit of a showman. So this guy sounds like a real character.

How did the business go?

Actually very well. It was quite a success. Most of the shows sold out.

So what happened next?

So Dorothy has moved into an assistant care home.

Now, the theater deed and all of its contents were eventually signed over to

Austin. At that time, it was worth about a million dollars.

All right, so I know things go bad. What happened?

So Austin began this tumultuous love affair with this guy named James Van

Sickle. They met in 1991.

Okay. Austin was 69.

Van Sickle was 28.

There was a 41 -year difference in their age.

Van Sickle learns the business and becomes the projectionist. To show his

and commitment, Austin then puts Van Sickle's name as the beneficiary in his

will. Okay, so I can see where this is going.

So on January 17, 1997, at about 8 .30 p .m., a man was seated in the theater

wearing a golf hat.

Okay. He gets up, he walks out of the theater, into the lobby, and confronts

Sickle. Austin, and the concession stand.

He pulls out a .357 and shoots him in the face. Then two more times in the

at close range.

So it sounds like he's probably DOA at the scene.

Yeah, and here's his death certificate.

Ooh, okay. I feel like somebody got shot here.

A male. This is a male being shot.

He's got kind of wavy hair.

He's thin.

I would think that he worked here.

It feels like he was doing something, like working, and then this happened.

The impact was so quick, out of nowhere, this happens, you know, and he's like,

what the?

Does he know who's doing this?

I feel like there's two men involved, and I get, like, R, the letter R.

Do you have any idea when this was?

It feels like it happened yesterday.

So what happened next?

So then the gunman turns to the concession clerk, 19 -year -old Mary

shoots her twice in the chest, and then he reenters the theater, ran down the

aisle and out the back door right through this alley.

Okay. So he would have run right past us.

What about this poor girl?

Miraculously, she survived the shooting. However, she did require major surgery.

I mean, sounds like a hit, but was it a robbery? How'd the investigation go?

Well, what happens is, after Mary's surgery, she meets with the police, and

she's able to actually help them. They draw a sketch of the suspect, and then

eight weeks later, they capture the shooter, 19 -year -old Christian

and he gives it up. He makes a full confession.

All right, so we've got a perfect confession, right? What was the

So it wasn't a robbery gone bad as it first appeared. It was actually a paid

hit. Austin's partner, Van Sickle...

had paid this young kid, Christian Rodriguez, $25 ,000 to kill Austin and

an additional $5 ,000 to kill the young girl, Mary, to make it look as though it

were a robbery.

Okay, so this guy's a real piece of... So not only does he contract the hit,

now this girl, Mary, winds up being a sacrificial lamb and almost lost her

All right, so I got to assume they pick up Van Sickle.

Does he go to trial? They plea out? What happens?

So, Steve, they were both tried together, and they were both sentenced

without the possibility of parole.

This is a pretty brutal story, especially about this young girl that

to do with anything.

It's like wicked panic.

I feel like there's somebody else who's dying.

I'm seeing that woman who touches people again.

She was young, between 17 and, like, 22.

I feel like I'm being assaulted.

I think it was like a brutal murder of this woman and possibly a

male.

This feels really recent.

What I was seeing was more like some kind of sacrifice.

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So far, I have a client terrified about the safety of his employees and

customers in a historic theater where one of the previous owners was murdered.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I come across an article about an old action

movie called The Skyway Man. They were shooting stunts right near the silent

theater when something went terribly wrong, and two pilots ended up crashing

their deaths.

I'm heading over to meet a stuntman who knows all about this tragedy.

He says one of the stuntmen had an incredible story I'm definitely going to

to know about.

Well, Hugh, I appreciate you coming out here and talking to me about this case.

My pleasure.

Do me a favor. Before we get to the crash, what can you tell me about this

Ormer Locklear was from Texas.

Okay. He was a bit of a daredevil, motorcycles, things like that. And he

up joining the Army in their air service to fly because he was fascinated with

planes. All right, so obviously he got the taste for this daredevil stuff.

Yeah. Do you know what kind of stunts he started doing? He started doing

transfers. He would transfer from one plane to the other in mid -flight.

Is this him? That's him hanging from underneath the landing gear.

I mean, I know the picture's old, but it doesn't look like there's any ropes or

any kind of line.

They use no safety lines, and they use no parachutes.

This guy had to be crazy.

I know you said he was from Texas. How did he wind up in Hollywood?

His manager actually made that happen. He became famous as a stunt pilot and

went to Hollywood and started as a stuntman.

Back then, everything was practical. If you needed to see a plane flying and

crashing on fire, you got someone to fly a plane and crash it on fire, just like

in this footage.

All right, so these guys were the beginning of real stunt work.

They're the forefathers of the business. When it came to flying, the things that

he did were pretty incredible.

Takes a lot of guts.

Yes, it does.

Do me a favor. Tell me about this movie where he gets killed. The crash happened

August 2nd, 1920.

Okay. And they were doing a night scene.

His flying partner, Milton Elliott, was flying the plane. Okay.

And Locklear was in the back seat, and he was lighting off the flares to make

look like the plane was on fire.

Okay. So what happens is they would fly at a couple thousand feet. Okay. And

they would stall the plane and have it spin round and round, spiral straight to

the ground. At the time, they called it the death spiral.

It sounded like a pretty straightforward stunt, but something went wrong. What

happened? Well, being the first time they were doing it at night, they had

big, large spotlights.

Unfortunately, the lights never got shut off.

Milton, blinded by the lights, couldn't see until he was too close to the

ground, about 200 feet.

And they impacted the ground in front of everybody filming on the whole crew.

Oh.

All right, so I got to assume these guys died on impact.

Yes. It was a very violent crash, as you can imagine.

Crushed and mangled and burned in airplane accident. I've never seen that

cause of death on a death certificate before.

I don't think they would write that up that way today.

So, Hugh, you know the area pretty well. I mean, how far was that crash from

where my client's movie theater is?

It's about a mile.

Did they ever do the movie over, or did they just scrub it? No, they finished

the movie. That was basically the last shot of the film.

They used it in the film and showed it in the theaters.

This is from a paper.

I mean, they wouldn't get away with that today. No.

Actually showing his spectacular crash to Earth.

The guy's dead. Yes.

It's hurtful. Pretty cold.

Is there any way I can look this movie up to watch it? Unfortunately, no copies

of the film or any of the footage exist.

It's lost to time.

Feeling energy coming at me from the right and the left and here, pushing me

back.

And then as soon as I came in here, it was like again.

I just saw the earth falling away.

And it was weird because it was the sky underneath.

And immediately on the floor, I saw three people who were burned.

And they're like kind of crawling. They're all up.

But this one dude who was really trying to communicate, like I felt

that, you know, that they want help.

I saw several disturbing things on my walk, but two stood out.

First, the red -skinned man.

He had more of an oval face.

He was wearing, like, one of those straw hat things.

So his cheekbones aren't really sharp.

They're softer.

Next, I described the group of dead people who are trapped inside the

There's like three burn victims.

Flesh is gone.

Two of them are just kind of laying there.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal

findings to each other and our clients for the first time.

So guys, meet Amy. She'll be doing the reveal from a separate room so she can

concentrate on your case and the dead without any distractions.

Amy, meet Daniel and his employee, Drew.

You probably already figured it out, but this is a movie theater.

In fact, it's a Hollywood landmark.

Trouble is, activity's bad, and Daniel is worried someone's going to get hurt.

If that happens, they're going to have to shut the place down.

Daniel loves the theater, and he's determined to keep it open, and that's

we're here.

So let's see if he's got some questions, and she'll describe her walk with us.

I did encounter quite a few dead individuals during my walk, and

the dead here feel as though someone is trapping them here.

And I do feel like the living can be affected by the dead here as far as

anxious and unstable.

Daniel, you mentioned sometimes you get anxious here. When I'm here by myself, I

have like a lingering sensation of creepiness like in the back of my mind.

The dead do talk a lot here. So I thought that the living would have more

experiences along the line of hearing people talking.

and making various, you know, noises.

Now, you heard voices, Drew, right?

Yes. Tell Amy what you heard.

So a paranormal team was here doing their own investigation.

They were using a spirit box, just asking really basic questions.

Is there anyone here?

It was a very clear yes.

They asked how many people were here. It was a very clear seven.

Now, you hear footsteps up on the roof, right?

I know no one's up there, ever.

I'm the only person who has access to that part of the building.

Interesting. You said these dead people are trapped, right?

I mean, how did you see it? What did it look like?

Well, I had a sketch done of what I saw.

Kind of strange.

Let's take a look at them.

Whoa. Wow.

What's going on here?

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. There's like two different things

going on. And it looks like people are trapped in a glass cave.

So what's the deal with the people in the box?

These men had been burned.

They are very much stuck in their death state.

They're in a lot of pain.

The way I saw them die was very frightening.

I felt like the earth was falling away from me, but it got weirder because all

saw underneath me was sky.

And then I looked down at the floor and I saw these people that, to me, looked

burned. So I was disturbed by that.

Well, a couple of things you said made me think of a story I came across during

my investigation.

Now, back in the silent movie era...

There were obviously no special effects, right? If you wanted to shoot plane

scenes, you needed to use real planes, like in this old movie.

So the reason I'm bringing this up, in 1920, about a mile down the street from

here, a film called The Skyway Man was shooting its final scene. So the movie

script called for a plane crash.

And Ariel Stumpman, by the name of Orma Locklear, was performing what they

called the suicide dive.

In the dead of the night, Locklear and his partner went up into the plane and

they put into a tailspin with flash shooting out the back. So it looks like

being shot.

But things went horribly wrong.

And these guys plummeted right into the ground and burst into flames, killing

them both.

The thing about this movie is they kept the whole thing in. Oh, God. And the

film is nowhere to be found.

It's lost to time. Wow.

So what else?

So I encounter two different people who were murdered.

I feel like it was after the 1950s, but it was so fresh.

I felt like it could have happened, like, yesterday.

The first murder was a dead male.

Ooh, okay. I feel like somebody got shot here.

I would think they worked here. I feel like there's two men involved.

and I kept seeing the letter R for some reason.

Then I saw a second murder.

This was a female.

She was probably between the ages of 17 and 22, and I felt like she

used to live up here on the second floor.

My heart was absolutely pounding, and I felt like she had been horribly

assaulted.

I could feel her pain in her chest, the pain in her chest.

was potentially what caused her death.

I did see blood on the walls.

I was hearing people yelling.

Possibly the living up here would feel sick.

She does cry a lot.

Maybe people hearing her crying.

And she was also trying to touch people.

You guys didn't mention feeling sick, but almost everyone here told me they

uneasy up on the second floor.

Didn't you tell me about feeling a presence up in that hallway?

In the hallway, yeah, and I've felt, like, not particularly welcomed up

Like, it's someone else's space that they don't really want me in, so I feel

like if I just tell them what I'm doing in there and I'm in and out quickly,

that it doesn't disturb them.

Amy, Daniel's projection is sterile. When I interviewed him, he told me that

when he was in the projection room up there, something grabbed his ass.

That's where the dead lady, she likes it in there. That's where she stays. She

feels safe in there.

So, Amy, the two murders you described sound an awful lot like a homicide that

actually took place right here in the theater.

It involves a former owner of the place and two of his employees.

In 1997, the theater was owned by a man named Lawrence Austin.

I actually got a photo of him.

Now, Austin was 75 years old and was having a tumultuous affair.

with the man 41 years younger than him, a 34 -year -old guy named James Van

Sickle. Van Sickle was the projectionist at the silent theater.

Austin made Van Sickle the sole beneficiary of his will.

Not the smartest idea, if you ask me. On January 17, 1997, an audience member

came out of the theater, walked into the lobby, pulled out a gun, demanded

Austin give him the cash from the register, and then he shot him three

once in the face and twice in the chest.

Now, he also shot a 19 -year -old employee named Mary Giles twice in the

Now, Austin didn't make it. Cops got here pretty quick, and they rushed Mary

the hospital. Miraculously, though, she survived.

Two months later, they finally tracked down the murder and got a full

confession.

Now, you said the letter R, right, came to mind?

Mm. The gunman was a teenage boy named Christian Rodriguez.

Turns out Van Sickle hired this kid to kill Austin.

Don't forget now, he made him the beneficiary of this place.

So get this, he hires Rodriguez to kill Austin for 25 grand.

Then he says, I'll give you another five grand if you kill the girl so it looks

like a robber.

So basically, Mary wound up being a sacrificial lamb.

Rodriguez was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison.

Ben Sickle was found guilty of first -degree murder and also got life without

possibility of parole.

Both are alive today and sitting in prison.

Oh, okay.

All these people are being trapped by one dead guy.

He's a bit of a problem.

He had, like, red skin, and, like, he looked, like, in snake eyes.

He was an owner when he was alive.

He very, very much still is.

That's why he's controlling everybody and claims to be taking care of

everything. But then when I started talking to him, asking him direct

about his name and stuff, he got real shady.

He goes, I think my name is John, or maybe it's Jim.

I think I died in the 60s.

I don't think I'm the only one at the table that knows who this is.

1940, a silent film buff named John Hampton.

John? Yeah.

Moved here from Oklahoma City with his wife, Dorothy.

In February of 1942, they finally opened this place, and it was originally named

the Old Time Movie Theater.

It was a huge success. I mean, they had A -list movie stars that would come here

to watch films.

John and Dorothy were hard workers. I mean, they did everything themselves,

including cleaning the bathrooms.

concessions, selling tickets. They did everything themselves. It was just the

two of them.

Take a look at this photo of John Hanton at the grand

opening.

Is this possible, this photo here, could be the guy you ran into?

I had a sketch done of what I saw.

You guys take a look. You tell me what you think.

It's close enough to what you got on him.

Yes, similar.

So, Amy, after looking at the photo, I mean, you think it's probably John you

ran into?

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

You know, everything I heard about the guy, he seemed like a decent person,

nice guy, and loved what he did, but now he's trapping dead people.

I think that he potentially had a very, very dark side that he kept very well

hidden. But now he's collecting people in debt because he's able to without

killing anybody.

I feel like she's onto something for sure.

Once you said he was a collector, I really, I kind of got chills. I think

he's the biggest issue here right now.

I don't know about this collecting bodies and putting them in a box.

Thing at all. I don't know like I can't have a good feeling here now Unless you

drop dead then you You're gonna put you in a box

Daniel

true What you got going on here is like that scary movie you might show in the

theater. Unfortunately, this is real life, so to see what, if anything, you

do about it, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

What I would like to do for the dead would be to have my team come here.

They're kind of a mixed bag of people.

Black comedians, pagans, Satanists, you know, the whole nine.

And what I would like them to do would be to initially remove all of the dead

that are here, which also means, you know, dealing with John.

Finally, they need to do a really major cleansing

on this place to specifically remove the residual energy.

So it would be more like a reset.

So once the team clears this place out, it will be safe for everyone. Yes.

I want whoever is here, everyone, to be put at ease

and to find peace.

So hopefully you'll take Amy's advice.

Yeah, for sure.

People being trapped here, that's not something that I would ever want. And I

think it's important.

I really hope Daniel follows my advice and works with my team to remove John

the dead he's trapping inside the theater.

I believe once the place has been cleared out, everyone can enjoy this

landmark safely for many years to come.