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There's so many dead.

They are not moving on.

I'm afraid that it's going to kill my mom.

In the middle of the night, I hear my bedroom door opening and then slam shut.

I think the living might be waking up and seeing these two men.

He tracked him down and slashed his throat.

Well, that's creepy.

They're waiting on you.

That's scary.

Their energy is terrible, terrible.

Oh, the dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

There is a skin locker here.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

He wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They're blocking the life out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShop. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have haunted me.

And I know every person, every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

Is that what I think it is?

Yes. When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. I told you he was trying to

kill me.

We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside you.

I'm in San Jose, California, right in the middle of Silicon Valley.

I got a call from a guy named Chad. Now, he sounded desperate.

Says his house is haunted and he and his partner want out.

Only problem, his mom refuses to budge.

My mom turned 73 next month. She already had health problems. Like, I can't just

leave the house and then have her be here and stuck with this hot mess.

They seem like good people and I'm hoping Amy and I can help them out.

This is not a good situation.

There's just so many dead people.

They are not moving on. And that's the weird thing. It's like they're right

here.

That's really strange to me.

So Chad, I'm glad I'm here.

Driving through the neighborhood, it's beautiful here.

But when we spoke on the phone, it sounded like you were going through

What's going on? We constantly feel like we're under attack.

We have so much paranormal activity going on here on the home that I'm

that it's going to kill my mom.

It's that bad, huh? Yeah.

She's already had a heart attack here.

She came home from work midday and came in and said that she didn't

feel well.

So I grabbed her purse and I said, we're going to the hospital. Three doctors

had said if I would have waited 20 minutes, she would have been dead. Okay,

how's she doing now? She's doing well, but she's starting to get affected by

energies in the house.

Okay, it's interesting.

Let's start with basics. Who's living in the house?

So this is my partner, Joseph.

Okay. My mother, Linda, and of course me.

How long have you lived here?

Joseph and I moved here a few years ago, and my mom bought the home 21 years

ago. Was there activity here when you guys arrived?

Shortly after we moved in, things began to happen.

And any idea why the activity started after you moved in?

Well, I've had ability since I was eight years old, so spirits often come to

visit and talk to me and that sort of thing. Okay, so you were sensitive.

Right, and Joseph also has this ability.

So, Chad, do me a favor and give me a list of what you guys are going through

here. So we're hearing voices.

Okay. We're having mood changes and illnesses.

We're seeing apparitions and shadow figures.

And now it's getting to be physically violent.

You mentioned illnesses.

You already told me about your mom's heart attack. Is there something else?

We feel like our immune systems are being worn down. Okay. It's like we have

extreme nausea.

A sore throat, but it never materializes into a flu or a cold. It just kind of

lingers. Have you seen a doctor?

I have. And? I have a clean bill of health.

Now, you mentioned mood swings. What are we talking about as far as mood swings?

Getting into fights more, and it's not like us at all.

All of a sudden, deep sadness, depression, very, very high anxiety, and

feeling of doom.

Why don't you guys just get the hell out of here?

Joseph and I want to go.

This was my mom's forever home.

She's not going to be scared out of her home, and I don't want to just pack up

and leave her here without figuring out what's going on.

So I feel trapped.

You know, I'm just seeing the dead just standing, like, and there's so many.

Are these just all people that have died here?

It's all different people, death, years.

Any idea why they aren't moving on?

There's this film that enveloped them.

It's like gooey. So where they are within all of this, it's always dark.

always together.

They're trapped.

And there's all this depression coming from the dead because they can't go

anywhere.

Okay, so Chad, what's going on here?

I'm seeing shadow figures.

Okay, so where are you seeing them? We're seeing them on the staircase here.

We're seeing them in the bedrooms.

They're everywhere.

What size are we talking about? Is it tall?

It's about, you know, any range of 5 '5 to 6 feet tall.

So, Chad, when you see these shadow things, right, these figures, what are

feeling? What kind of energy?

I've got a vibe off of them. some of them, that they feel kind of an

authoritative figure, almost like a soldier or military person.

All right, so we got shadow figures. What else?

So one night I heard my door violently banging back and forth, and the door

handle was jiggling back and forth as the door was banging.

Like somebody was playing with it? Right, and it went for a good 20

All right, so anything else?

I witnessed a woman apparition ascending to the second floor and then stopping

at my mom's bedroom.

I mean, that's something hopefully Amy may be able to answer.

Speaking of Amy, if she turned around and said, listen, forget about it. You

guys got to get the hell out of here.

I want to go. I got to convince my mom that she's got to go. If it's unsafe

and it's unfixable, I mean, there's no other option.

Okay.

I quickly saw a dead woman.

She looks recent.

And I saw her, like, trying to push a cat off of the wall.

She does not like animals.

Okay. She thinks that they're dirty.

Can you describe her?

A little bit shorter than me. She's on the thinner side.

She's probably 60.

The living here do have experiences with her. I would think they would

see her as she is.

She's perplexed because she doesn't get why are they here and I'm telling them

to leave and get out and they're not.

Like nobody's listening to her.

I think she is moving things about.

Like with the doors in the room.

I think her energy for the living would be very overwhelming.

So stressed.

She's very high strung, very OCD.

What about the living? What kind of long -term effects would all this

potentially have on the living?

Stress is no good. I mean, that could get you, you know, high blood pressure,

heart issues. You know, they're not sleeping well. I think they'd be in

danger.

So, Joseph, I was talking to your partner, Chad. He believes the house is

haunted and you guys are under attack.

You agree with all that? I agree.

We do feel like we're under attack.

I tell Chad it's like an energy bubble. You feel a certain way inside the house

and things can be depressing and dark and it affects the relationship between

the three of us in the house. And then you leave the bubble or, you know, I go

grocery shopping, go on a walk, go to the park, and things are much better.

So... With all that being said, tell me about your experiences.

I was watching TV and my dog started barking.

And so I walked to the front door and there was a shadow person at the front

door on the other side of the screen.

So what happened when you saw it? Did it stay or disappear?

What did it do? I just shut the door on it and locked it and said, you know, you

can't come in.

Have you seen anything else like that?

Yeah, several times I've woken up to a negative feeling in the bedroom and

there's a dark shadow figure standing there at the foot of my bed.

Was it just looking at you? Just leering at me.

Did it just disappear or kind of fade away?

It went away.

That's a lot so far. Anything else?

I've actually woken up to a figure on my chest that's kind of dark and hazy and

putting a lot of pressure on my chest.

Okay. And you're sure this wasn't a dream?

Not a dream. Those are scary because you feel like you're dying.

Okay.

These two dead men come here. They're both former military.

Both of them died within the last 20 years.

One killed himself.

I guess one was killed in action.

Do you know if they have any interaction with the living?

I think the living in these rooms might be waking up and seeing these two men

standing there. They see them and get scared.

Their energy is...

Mm, terrible, terrible.

Like, you want to talk about, like, pain and suffering, like, these guys need to

get moved on.

Not good for the living to be in an environment like that, especially if

run towards that kind of empathic, sensitive type.

The oppression that this environment causes creates this despair and does

people to kill themselves.

Linda, I was talking to your son Chad and his partner Joseph.

They're concerned about the paranormal activity that's going on in the house,

and they think it's pretty dangerous.

Do you feel the same way as they do?

I haven't experienced it like they have, so I don't feel that it's dangerous to

me. Okay. But you've had experiences?

Well, I have experiences, but I can't explain if they're paranormal or not.

So, Linda, what experiences have you had that you really can't explain?

Well, I hear thumping or bumping noises, but when I turn around, there's nothing

there.

Do you have any pets?

I have a cat, and he's not there.

Okay, is there anything else you can tell me about?

Well, in the middle of the night, I hear my bedroom door opening and then slam

shut. Now, is it closed at night?

Yes, when I go to bed, I close it and make sure that it's tight.

Well, that's a little odd. Yeah.

Is there anything else?

Well, I noticed that three of us in the house feel drained.

Chad told me that you did have a heart attack a few years back. Now, do you

think that's contributing to your feeling drained?

That's been healed.

I've gone to the doctors, and I'm fine.

Chad had talked to me about he wanted to move, and him and Joseph wanted to live

someplace else. If they did that, would you feel comfortable?

Well, I think I would, but...

I would like to know what's here first.

He firmly believes that WCF could kill you. Oh, my gosh.

There are so many dead, and it's all different people, and it's all different

times.

I'm thinking, like, the experiences here would be pretty intense because

there is...

you know all of these dead people and and all of these living people and

they're like basically you know mingling so what kind of

interactions are happening they're able to you know make sounds you know i think

like living would hear them see them

So you're Leaza and you're Jonas, right? Yeah. Mom, son?

Yes. I understand you two guys were neighbors of Chad and Joseph.

Yeah. Correct.

Okay. Now, how long did you live here? About six years.

Weird question. Did you have any paranormal experiences?

Absolutely. What were some of the experiences you had when you lived here?

had a tormenting spirit in our home that was tormenting my son.

What was going on with you? I hear three knocks on my bedroom door. So I open

the door and there's no one there.

Something wasn't letting me be able to sleep at night.

Okay, and how old were you again at that time? I was 16.

Okay. So anything else?

Well, there was one night when I came out, and as I was going to our

house, I saw a shadow figure underneath the light post.

As I got closer, it just went to the left and dissipated.

Okay, interesting.

You guys are obviously close with Chad and Joseph.

You worried about them?

I am.

And I'm worried about their mom. Okay. You feel the same way? I feel the same

exact way. Okay.

I feel bad.

A lot of the depression, too, is emanating from the dead here. And we're

about like 100 dead people.

They're not being allowed to move on.

It's like that goo is like over this area and not letting anybody.

You know, if they're alive, function correctly, they're just depressed.

Weighted down, can't function.

There's like something about this environment that creates, for those who

in it, this kind of oppressive darkness.

There's a real problem.

more than likely in this whole development with death. So I wouldn't be

surprised at all if it's not just affecting this location.

But here, specifically, it's all darkness.

So that's not good.

I made my usual calls when I got to town and just heard back from a local

genealogist. Says Chad's land used to be owned by one of the town's founding

fathers. Turns out this guy lived a charmed life.

But the second he set foot on the property, everything went to hell.

Well, Corey, I appreciate you helping me out with this.

What do we know about this guy?

His name was Jose Joaquin Bernal. Okay. And he came to California in 1776 with

his family, and he was just 14 years old. Okay. And he and his family helped

build San Jose.

When he became old enough, he joined the Spanish army, and he was stationed in

San Jose to help guard the town.

Right, so now he's a young kid, he's in the army. Mm -hmm. What happens after

that? When he turned 23, he got married to a lady named Maria. Okay. And they

would go on to have 16 children.

16 kids.

Yep. Wow.

In 1826, he retired from the military.

Okay. And he moved his family to a 10 ,000 -acre plot of land in South San

He named it Rancho Santa Teresa.

Okay, and this is the same land my clients live on. That's right.

Corey, you mentioned on the phone that things turned bad for this guy. When did

that happen? In 1828, he lost both a granddaughter and a daughter in

complications from childbirth.

And the daughter was only 25 years old. And then just a couple of years later,

the same thing happened. He lost another grandchild and daughter in childbirth.

Now, how old was she?

She was 27.

That's it.

How did it go after that?

There was a second wave of death.

In 1834, his granddaughter died. And then the following year, he lost both a

and a daughter. And I have their burial records.

So if my numbers are right, he'd lost seven family members in seven years.

That's right. I mean, that had to take a toll on this guy.

All that loss was too much for him. By 1837, he was on his deathbed, and he

that year on the property at the age of 74, and I have his burial record.

Please tell me it got better for Maria once Jose was gone.

I wish that were the case.

Between 1840 and 1845, Maria suffered a wave of death of her own.

She lost three of her daughters, all in their 30s. What happens with Maria?

Maria lived to the age of 90. Okay. And she died in 1858, probably on the

property. Here's her burial record.

So all these deaths, all this tragedy that this family suffered didn't happen

until they got onto the property where my clients live now.

That's right.

You're a genealogist. Have you seen a lot of this?

Not at this level. It seemed like they suffered more loss than a lot of the

families I've researched.

I encountered a tiny little old woman. She said she was about 67.

She is definitely in like some kind of mourning outfit. She's dressed in all

black. She said this location belongs to her.

She owned a large amount of property.

She just said that she always has and always will hate people.

So I just got a call from a forensic investigator. He tells me there was a

race that ended in murder just down the street from Chad's house.

This story sounds pretty wild and should definitely help my case.

Jeremiah, thanks for helping me out with this case.

What do we know about the victim? Well, the victim's name is Edward Pyle. He's

28 years old, recently married. He's a rancher.

Okay. And so one day in May of 1848, he went out and completely vanished.

Does anybody know where he was last seen? Last time he was seen was at a

neighboring ranch owned by the Valencia family.

So is this where he was in a horse race?

Right, with a boy named Antonio. Antonio is 17 years old.

During this race, Pyle's horse's leg breaks.

Pyle grabs the saddle off the horse and heads back to his own property.

Is that when he vanishes?

Exactly. I assume his family goes looking for him.

Yeah. They get the sheriff, local authorities involved, and head

the Valencia ranch.

When confronted, Antonio Valencia immediately confessed.

All right, so this kid confessed.

What's he say? Antonio was freaked out that they were going to think Antonio

responsible for crippling that horse's leg.

He tracked him down and flashed his throat.

Do we know where he kills him?

The most northeastern part of the ranch.

Do we know where on this map it might be? Right over here.

Okay, so that's pretty close to my client's property.

He ends up burying him in that area, and every single day after that, he goes to

visit the site.

For what? He could not get what he did to Edward out of his mind. He was

described to be essentially haunted by visions of Edward's throat being

Edward gasping for his last breath.

and dying right in front of him. All right, so this kid confesses, he's

collared. Does he have a trial?

It's a quick trial. The judge orders him to death by hanging.

They built a scaffold, center of town, threw a rope over it, tied it around his

neck, and hung him.

It's weird, that feeling of oppression, feeling weighted down

by this location.

There was like this immediate image of like a male. It was just a really quick

flash of like a guy dying from hanging.

This really dark despair.

It's a direct result of this environment.

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So far, I have a client worried paranormal activity is going to kill his

a property with a long history of premature deaths.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I find the previous owner of Chad's property.

Turns out she died right inside his house.

I'm on my way to meet a local historian who's worked on a lot of cases with me.

He says back in the 80s, a lot of this woman's neighbors also died way too

young.

Dave, thanks for helping me out once again.

So this woman that died in my client's house, what do we know about her?

Her name is Mary Smith.

She was from Oakland.

Here's her high school picture.

Okay.

She worked as a secretary at IBM and later became a paralegal. Her and her

husband bought your client's house in 1984.

Okay. But shortly after she moved into the house, she got breast cancer.

So I take it the cancer was terminal.

Unfortunately, it was. She died quickly at age 49 in 1986.

She was young, 49.

Wow.

This woman's life was cut really short.

Way too short.

I'm seeing that dead woman who doesn't like animals again.

Do you know if she has some sort of connection to the property itself?

She lived here in this unit. This is an area she is somewhat acknowledging.

is not right, and it really bothers her.

She was just talking about people dying here.

There's been incidents that to her seemed abnormal.

She's very agitated, and then this woman doesn't like this area.

Now, Dave, you mentioned on the phone that a lot of people died young in my

client's neighborhood.

Why was that?

Well, in the 1980s, your client's neighborhood was ground zero for a toxic

disaster. Okay, so what happened? The residents were getting suspicious. There

was a lot of birth defects, miscarriages, and strange cases of

cancer. All right, did they ever track down who was responsible for this?

He tested the local drinking water and found that it was contaminated by a

chemical used in making computer chips.

And these people were drinking it?

Yeah, bathing in it, washing clothes.

He tracked down the source to a leaking tank owned by a computer chip

manufacturing company.

So they were storing toxic chemicals in underground tanks right in this

community. All right, I got to figure out what law suits, no? Right, the

residents lawyered up.

They claimed that 17 of their children were born with heart defects.

They also said that 60 miscarriages happened in their community, as well as

confirmed cancer deaths.

All right, so how'd it go in court?

Well, the case dragged on for five years before it was settled out of court for

millions of dollars for the residents.

Now, Dave, we have any idea if this woman, Mary, might have been involved in

that? Was she part of the lawsuit?

We don't know for sure, but it certainly is possible.

Same time frame that all this was going on? Right.

That's a shame.

I saw several disturbing things on my walk, but two stood out.

First, the dead woman who doesn't like animals.

She had more of a longer face, thin neck.

Her hair actually covers up her ears.

Next, I described a massive amount of dead people surrounding the house.

They're all shapes.

They're all sizes.

They're all sexes. They're all ages.

How many dead were there?

Looking all the way out, probably about 100.

They're all facing the same direction.

It's almost like if you would just picture a graveyard and then just

stood up from their grave.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,

We're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first

time. So, guys, I want you to meet Amy.

She'll be doing the reveal from another room so that she can focus on your case

and the dead without any distractions.

Amy, meet Chad, who's in the middle.

That's his partner, Joseph, to his left.

And that's his mom, Linda.

Chad's in a bind.

The activity in the house is so bad, he doesn't think it's safe for anybody.

Problem is, Linda here is not so convinced that it's bad enough to leave.

Chad's hoping you can either show them how to make the house safe or, if need

be, convince Linda to get out.

Unless Amy has some questions for you, she'll describe her walk for us.

The first person I saw inside the house was a dead woman who causes a lot of

problems here.

She did go on a lot about how much she hates animals.

Because she feels like they're dirty.

She's dirty.

The first thing I see from this woman is her up on the

stairwell and her showing me her throwing a cat off of the stairwell.

Oh, hell no.

That's happened twice.

We have a 19 -year -old cat that likes to stay up on the

banister. But it was like he got knocked off twice to the first floor, and he

was okay.

Chad, you saw an apparition of a woman on the staircase, correct? Right. She

ascending from the first floor landing up and then stopping at my mother's

bedroom door.

Yeah. So I went upstairs, and I went into the first bedroom.

Okay, so that's Linda's bedroom.

She was showing me her trying to move things.

And she messes with the door.

When I'm asleep, like two or three in the morning, the door will open and then

bang shut.

Chad, why don't you tell her about your door?

One night I was working at my desk and all of a sudden my door went in and out,

like banging, banging, banging, banging. And then the door handle was jiggling

at the same time it was going in and out.

And it was so loud and aggressive that I thought it was Joseph. And so I went up

and opened the door real quick and there was nothing.

Interesting.

I think that being around her a lot could drain you, just because she's

This anxiousness could make you guys feel that as well?

Yeah. You can sleep all night, and then you get up in the morning, and you're

yawning, and you're acting like you're ready to go to bed instead of just

getting up.

You just have this overwhelming feeling of complete exhaustion, and then the

anxiety, like, ramps up.

And I say, The bubble within the bubble, because if I'm out, I'm totally fine. I

have normal energy.

But if I'm at home, you can just get up and feel like you need a nap in two

hours because you're so exhausted.

This could lead to having high blood pressure, which then could lead to heart

issues.

Hello, what happened to mom? So in 2012, she ended up having a heart attack.

And then three heart surgeons.

said if you wouldn't have brought her in, she would have been gone in 20

minutes.

Is it this dead woman that's causing all these issues?

Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Any idea who this woman was when she was alive?

My feeling was that she lived here, that she lived in this house at some point.

I believe that she was in her late 50s, early 60s when she

died. She felt like there were a lot of unusual deaths

in the area and that she felt that the energy here

is what may have caused so many odd deaths.

Amy, it sounds to me like you're describing a woman who died in the

Her name was Mary Smith. She was from Oakland.

She moved in with her husband into the house here in 1984, but she wasn't here

very long before she got diagnosed with terminal cancer.

Now, she refused to stay in the hospital, and she died in the home in

Now, she was only 49 when she died, but there's a lot more to this tragic story.

Around that time, a lot of people in the neighborhood were dying from cancer.

What? There also was an unusual, very high number of miscarriages.

As well as babies born with birth defects.

Oh.

Turns out toxic chemicals were leaking into the water supply.

Right here.

In fact, here's an article on it.

Pollution Plague, Silicon Valley.

What the?

Hundreds of your neighbors got together and filed a class action lawsuit against

the tech companies who had poisoned the water supply.

Now, the case dragged on for five years and finally ended up with an out -of

-court settlement for millions of dollars.

Now, we can't prove it, but it makes you wonder if the contaminated water had

something to do with Mary's death.

Now, I was only able to track down a yearbook photo of her.

Obviously, she was much older when she died. I mean, is it possible this is the

woman you might have seen?

I had a sketch done of how I saw her.

You guys take a look and why don't you tell me what you think.

Wow.

I mean, I see that sketch and I

look at that photo, I can see the resemblance in my police eyes.

Yeah, the older picture looks like the woman that was going up the staircase.

We've got to move her on.

I just want to clear out the bubble.

So... How else did the woke go?

Then I go upstairs and encountered two males.

What they were showing me was them standing, one at the very

base of the bed and one on the side. This is while the living

are sleeping.

What I was able to see was that both of these men were soldiers.

and that they had died within the last 20 years, I'm thinking.

I would think that these two military men would probably be perceived as

people.

Now, Chad, you've seen shadow figures. Tell Amy about the feeling you get from

them. There's some that have that authoritative, like, feeling of like,

know, just they're standing there and it has that same presence that you would

feel of like a military person.

Interesting.

There's a lot of sadness and pain with these men. When they're around, I think

that the living would feel their sadness and despair.

You okay, Joseph?

I know what she's talking about. Like, I feel, I feel their distress.

Like, I can pick up that energy off of things. And when she said that, it was

like she hit the nail on top of the head.

You had mentioned to me a shadow figure in the bedroom?

Yes. At the corner of my bed, I see that there's this shadow entity

standing there, and the feeling off of it was negative, like sadness and

depression, and I'm going to attack you.

Did you get attacked in bed? Did you have a heaviness? Tell me about that.

I was asleep, and there's a heaviness on the chest. It's hard to breathe.

And then I'm waking up.

And it's preventing you from moving or saying anything.

Linda, you still think it's safe to live here?

Not for them.

I'm lucky because I don't see what they see.

But obviously I believe them.

Do you think it's safe for them to be here? No.

Oh, okay.

But you think it's okay for you to be here?

Well, no, because then they might come to me if...

Because they leave.

The biggest concern I have is what I saw outside of your house.

There's this kind of gooey wall, like a membrane.

And it doesn't just affect you guys. It kind of covers the entire neighborhood.

The problem with this is that it...

It encompasses a lot of dead people.

This is a problem because these dead, many dead, cannot move on because

they are trapped in this goo.

So I would think that the living here would have encounters with these dead

people on occasion, from hearing them to seeing them all over the neighborhood.

Amy, it's funny you say that because I spoke to some former neighbors who had

experiences.

Well, there was one night when I came out and as I was going to our neighbor's

house, I saw a shadow figure underneath the light post.

Interesting.

Now, my problem is that their misery and their despair is affecting the living

here. And it's creating this extreme, oppressive,

draining, dark.

No wonder I feel a certain way when I'm at home trapped and you don't know how

to move on and you're all crowding my living space. You're going to leave a

certain mark.

And then it tries to stoke up your emotions, whether anger or depression or

sadness.

It's totally encompassing.

I did have a sketch done of what I saw.

Well, that's creepy.

They're waiting on you.

Oh, God.

Oh, God.

That's the whole driveway.

That's scary.

To think that everyone's out there.

And inside the house.

That's my space.

So guys, not for nothing, but you got hundreds of dead people trapped outside

your front door. It doesn't sound too good.

So now we're going to answer the big question.

Is there anything you can do to stay in your home and be safe?

Or do you need to get the hell out of here?

And that includes you, Linda.

For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

Can you stay?

Yes.

Do you really want to stay? I mean, I guess that's, you know, I

wouldn't.

You can keep them out of the house.

And, you know, there's things you can do. But do you really want to just

be inside here?

This affects this whole development.

And I don't feel like that's healthy.

Is there a lot for them to do if they wanted to stay?

They could stay, but that would take a huge effort, and it would

involve many different types of sensitives, many different types of

religious individuals, holy people, and it would take many months.

So it would be a huge, huge undertaking.

So you two need to get out of Dodge, obviously.

But you did call us in because of your mom. Right.

What about Linda staying here by herself? It's probably not a good idea,

assume. I don't think this.

And it could get worse.

Okay.

Linda, has tonight changed your mind about things?

Yeah.

She said we could stay if we wanted to, but I don't think I want to

with all that.

We better go look for a place.

You know, I tell people all the time, listen, houses can be

replaced.

People can't. People can't, yeah.

I feel really bad for Chad, Joseph, and Linda, but in a situation as dangerous

as this, I think it's best they leave their home.

Hopefully, they take my advice, leave all of these dead behind, and get a

start somewhere new.

Hi, Steve and Amy. Thanks so much for coming out to the house and helping us

with what was going on here. Right now, as far as relocation is concerned, we

are looking at other options out of the area.

As far as mom is concerned, she is looking at relocating to a different

the San Francisco Bay region.

So thank you guys for coming out. Thanks again.

Thank you.