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Creeping bad, bad man.

He loves looking in windows.

I believe he's trying to kill us both.

Felt like it was on top of me, trying to choke out the air.

This was a sexual thing for him.

So how many bodies are we talking? Talking nine.

He gets off on stalking people.

He's like laughing, like thick.

Ooh, the dark is getting darker.

My name is Amy Allen.

I see dead people.

There is a skinwalker here.

I speak to dead people.

And they speak to me.

He wants to collect the women.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They're stalking the life out of these people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve DeShavit. I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

This is the kind of case that would have haunted me. And I know every person,

every house has secrets.

It's my job to reveal them. But Steve and I never speak. We never communicate

during an investigation.

Until the very end.

Is that what I think it is?

Yes. When we uncover if it saved you to stay. I told you he was trying to kill

me.

We're time to get out. You have a dead person inside you.

I'm out here in Fresno. It's about halfway between San Francisco and Los

Angeles. I got a call from a couple, Cindy and Steven.

Now, a few years ago, they moved into what was supposed to be their retirement

home, and things quickly went to hell. We don't know what to do, where to turn,

where to go.

Living in our house has become something I wouldn't necessarily call life.

They seem like good people, and I'm hoping Amy and I can help them out.

This is not good.

I encountered four graves specifically.

And there was a woman, a dead woman, that had wrapped herself around the

headstone. And she was in full morning wear. I would put her 1910.

I kind of approached her and she turned into like an...

super old hag -looking woman and was literally hissing at me.

Well, Cindy, I'm glad to be here.

Obviously, you were pretty upset when we spoke on the phone.

It's a beautiful home. I mean, what's going on here?

It's a... It's literally a living nightmare.

So let's start with the basics.

Who lives here in the house?

Me and my husband, Steve.

This is supposed to be our retirement home, and it was enough room for the

grandkids. It was enough room for everybody.

Do you keep the grandkids away because of that? We don't invite them over, and

if they do, we do a lot of preemptive things to try to stop things from

happening.

Like what? What are you guys doing?

Blessings on the house, holy water.

We've joined the Catholic Church.

Just to join it all because of this?

Because of everything going on here. They did a house blessing.

Okay. They've done three exorcisms and a house exorcism as well.

I mean, that's incredible because the Catholic Church is usually very, you

if they get them to do one, it's a miracle.

All right, so Cindy, do me a favor and give me a list of what the hell's going

on here.

I feel like I'm being watched.

Mood changes.

Shadow figures.

I'm being physically attacked.

And I feel it's trying to kill me because of what it does to my voice.

When it happens, you'll hear it, and then it starts to do this.

All right, so what just happened now? You seem like a different person real

quick. It feels like something's got its hands around my throat and it's trying

to prevent me to talk because it doesn't want me talking about it.

So do you feel something's trying to take control of you?

Well, it's already happened today that I've been... getting physically attacked

or feeling like something is trying to jump

on me or try to... It'll make my heart start racing and

feel like I'm getting pressure.

Okay. Sometimes it'll make me sick.

It may come down to Amy telling you, this is too dangerous for you to stay.

need to leave.

My only fear is...

More than likely a family would move into this house and I can't feel okay

somebody coming in and getting hurt like I've been hurt.

So I'm seeing an elderly woman dying in a bed here.

The problem is here with her being in the house is that the living are

very susceptible to taking on her illness.

I feel like there's a female, I believe, that's being really influenced by this

dead woman. She's stumbling around because she's out of it. She gets

easily, walking into things. When she's kind of in these drugged up states, that

can cause a lot of issues for the living as far as being able to

think straight.

So what's going on in this part of the house?

It feels like I'm being watched and it doesn't matter basically where I'm at.

It's worse than the hallway, though.

So are you feeling that presence like right now?

I'm feeling an uneasy feeling right now.

Anytime I'm going to talk about it, it's going to start doing.

To me, it sounds like you're having maybe some kind of throat issue where

voice is changing from talking too much. So I don't know if it's paranormal or

not. The doctors checked out my throat, and it's weird. I can sit here and talk

about anything, but if I start talking about it, it starts doing this.

Okay. That's strange.

What else you got going on? Mid -sweep.

What are we talking about? Like you're angry, you're depressed? What is it?

It's like it wants to get me sad. It wants to get me mad.

Like it's trying to section me off from everybody.

I'm normally pretty happy -go -lucky, and when I'm here,

Just sad. I'll sit there and not talk.

I've seen your personality kind of change right in front of me. Your voice

change.

You're having these mood swings. Are you leaning towards that you're getting

possessed? I think that it's jumping me. I don't think it's quite gotten to the

point of going full -blown. All right.

I wanted to focus on this living female.

Because it almost, at this point, seems like they're merging.

But I don't feel like this elderly woman is doing this on purpose.

It almost feels like this living woman is, like, kind of okay

with it.

Unfortunately, they're kind of blending now.

So this living woman is really taking on a lot of this dead woman

as far as her illness, possibly even a change of some of her characteristics.

So maybe this living woman is a physical medium and does not know it because it

seems like she's turning into this older dead woman.

Is it dangerous for her?

Yeah, this is very dangerous for her because she's basically taking in

dead energy, and it's dead energy that is stuck in

this illness.

If I had to guess, I'd say probably something like cancer.

What's with the two beds?

These days, I only sleep in the other room because of the paranormal activity.

Is it making things better?

No, it's not.

Are you even getting any sleep in this house with all the crap that's going on?

No, I barely get any sleep because I keep having a lot of nightmares.

Is it anything specific or is it just random?

It's being chased, being hunted, or somebody choking me.

Do you think this is what's trying to kill you?

That is what I think is trying to kill me.

All right, what else?

Bruises and scratches.

Where on the body?

I actually have pictures if you'd like to see. Yeah.

Arms, legs.

Did you feel this when it was happening? Yeah, it burned really bad.

So this third one looks like... It was a choke mark.

I woke up.

It felt like it was on top of me trying to choke out the air.

And I probably went through it for about 30 seconds or something.

Felt like something was pushing itself on top of me.

I'm scared to sleep. I don't want, I definitely don't want to dream because

overwhelming feeling of anxiety and panic.

I'm seeing an older male.

The first thing, he's always looking in windows.

Anytime there was a bush or a tree, he was like lurking and always watching.

He was very open that this was a sexual thing for him to kind of stalk people.

So apparently he did this when he was alive, and he's still doing it now.

This man, his energy is all in here.

uh very bad i feel like he might have raped someone and he's laughing

uh yeah that's disgusting

So, Stephen, I was talking to your wife earlier.

Her voice changed.

You know, her attitude changed.

I saw it happen in front of me.

I know you've seen this. Oh, hundreds and hundreds of times.

Did it freak you out? The first time, yes. I ran up to her, grabbed her, shook

her. Who are you? Why are you here? And get the hell out of my wife.

So, for lack of a better word, I hate using it, but do you think this is some

kind of a possession?

I have to say no, because my wife is still my wife.

All right. Now, Amy says possessions are very rare, extremely rare, but people

do get jumped, which is another thing.

So you think that could be happening?

I don't doubt it if we both get jumped. You as well? Oh, yes, sir.

So what experiences have you had?

On two separate occasions, there has been something that has gotten into bed

with me.

Okay, so do me a favor. Describe the first one for me. Something sat down by

leg of the bed, and I could feel the blankets tighten up as if something was

there. Said a prayer in my head. It didn't go anywhere. Thrust my foot in

direction. Got nothing but air, but it didn't return.

Okay, now you said there was two occasions. Oh, yes. The second one was

worse. Something sat behind me, leaning over in me, almost like something was

going to whisper in my ear or kiss me on the cheek. I came back with a back

fist. Again, nothing but air, but it didn't come back.

All right, so you're feeling this presence, obviously. What else?

When I'm sitting in this room, I will see shadow figures walk past the

Is it something you can see through, or is it pretty dark?

It's pretty dark.

Is it possible from the light outside and somebody walking past the house that

you might see a shadow in here? We do have cameras on the front of our house,

and we've never caught anybody walking.

So have you seen any shadow figures that you see through the doorway anyplace

else? Outside, peering through windows, but always in my peripheral vision.

This older dead man, he's a real creeper.

If there's somebody sleeping, he's right there.

He comes in only when the people are asleep and then he is able to be up

and he's doing his thing.

You know what I'm saying?

You know, I want to say there's been one or two times where he's kind of been

busted watching somebody inside at night, how they're perceiving him.

More probably like a dark shadowy figure.

Very bad.

Okay, so you got a present scene, shadow figures, what else?

Every morning I would see a young lady in an older style dress, stockings,

sandal -like shoes with a strap over her ankle. As soon as I open up the door

and come around the corner, she's gone.

Okay, so when you say a young girl, are we talking?

Nine, ten.

All right, so anything else?

One of the craziest things I have seen is in this room, I will see a black mass

that looks like it's moving, like a spider walks across the ceiling.

So how big is the mass, I mean?

About twice the size of a softball.

Oh, okay, so pretty big. Yes. And how often have you seen this? I've seen it

once going across the ceiling and another time across the floor.

Did it have that same can't -see -through mass like those shadow planes?

correct. So do you think it could be the same thing, only in a different form?

Anything's possible.

Nothing that happens to us in the house surprises me anymore.

Your wife said to me she thinks that whatever's here wants to kill her. I

she really believes that.

What's your thoughts?

I believe so, too. I believe he's trying to kill us both.

Okay.

There's a younger dead man here, and he is literally changing forms, like, every

five seconds into different things.

The younger guy is like, if the ceiling was invisible, is like

warming, like going in and out and in and out and in and out and in and out.

And he's like laughing, like laughing like this.

Oh, he's so creepy. Seeing him interacting with a small female child

messing with her horribly.

And he is torturing this child.

Amy and I were in Fresno years ago, but I still have some contacts from that

case.

One of them, a local historian, reached out and said the original owner of Cindy

and Stephen's property has a hell of a story I'm going to want to know about.

So, Mike, I appreciate you helping me out with this case.

The original owner, what can you tell me about this guy? Well, his name was

Francis Bullard, but he was better known as Frank.

Originally, he was from Massachusetts, but he moved out west to California

during the gold rush. He was hoping to make his fortune.

So that's about 1850?

About 1850, yeah.

That's him.

After several years of grueling mining, he gave it up. He started a farm,

specifically raising and breeding high -end sheep.

It was at this time he met his wife, Mary Adness.

Does he wind up having any kids?

Yep. Actually, he has five, including twin boys, Edwin and Edgar.

And in 1888, that's when he buys your client's property.

So, Mike, I assume you didn't call me here because his life was rosy.

went wrong, right?

Six years later, in 1894.

Frank catches pneumonia and dies.

He was at the age of 72 at the time. There's his death record.

All right, so now he's dead. Who gets the property?

Well, the five kids inherit the property and the business, and that's when

things start to go bad.

Okay, like what?

Edgar and his brother, Frank Jr., both suffer the losses of their infant son.

Anything else?

Unfortunately, yes. As the eldest son, Edgar was in charge of the family

business, the Buller Company.

He didn't see much potential in the land that he owned, and he started to sell

it off piece by piece to this guy named J .C. Fortner. Around 1922, Fortner

starts to make millions off that same land that he bought from Edgar.

So that had nudged him a little bit, right? Yeah. According to family

he started to suffer from depression from that. In March of 1923, he took a

to his chest and killed himself.

Okay, so this guy offs himself.

Who does he leave behind?

He left behind his wife of 25 years Florence and their five kids.

So what wound up happening with Florence?

Well, Florence lived for another 15 years and died in 1940 at the age of 67.

With all that pressure on her, no wonder she died of a heart attack.

I'm feeling a lot of depression, like a loss.

That kind of a heavy sadness.

This is all tied to a dead female.

So literally imagine, like, a wall.

of energy is just going back and forth and back and forth.

How dense it is, that's causing the headaches and the ear problems.

It's weird because it looks like a wall of energy, but it's actually a dead

female.

Oh, I'm still feeling it.

My last meeting got me wondering about this J .C. Faulkner guy.

the one who made all that money buying Cindy and Stephen's land.

So I reached out to a local professor who says Faulkner may have made some

cash, but his life also went to hell the second he set foot on the property.

This guy, J .C. Faulkner, what are you talking about?

Well, he was born in Kansas.

He came out to Fresno and became a really prominent businessman.

Here he is.

So he's the guy in the lightest suit. Yeah.

So I know he made a lot of money buying my client's property. What can you tell

me about that?

6 ,000 acres he bought in 1910.

Okay. And began to develop it into this vast fig orchard. It was considered

pretty much barren land. They called it outlaw land.

But he kind of had a vision.

So, Professor, on the phone you mentioned that his life turned to hell

got the land. What happened?

January of 1910.

His wife, Grace, was in labor with his first child.

Okay. She delivered a healthy baby boy, but she died in labor. And here's the

old bit.

And she was pretty young, 34, and he was left pretty much alone to care for the

kid.

All right, so this is pretty tragic. Anything else happen? Well, a couple of

years later, his mother, Maddie, came out here from Kansas. She had chronic

asthma. Oh. And she came out here to recuperate, to take in the air.

But by 1913, things took a turn for the worse.

She got really sick and passed away. She was 65 years old.

Okay, so only a couple of years after his wife dies.

All right, so this is pretty tragic.

I'm seeing the dead lady again.

She's meshing this dead energy into this living person.

She's very thin.

I mean, I put her, like, probably in her 60s.

She was in a lot of pain, it seems like.

And she's dying in a bed here.

I don't know if she actually literally died here, but she didn't leave here.

So he loses his wife in childbirth in 1910. His mother comes out to get

She doesn't. She winds up dropping dead. That's enough for anybody.

Anything else happen with this guy? Well, the very next year, he got into a

fatal car accident.

He hit a motorcyclist. The motorcyclist died.

This guy can't catch a break. Well, some good things happened.

He got remarried. He had four kids.

Over the next several years, his agricultural empire flourished. Okay.

1930, tragedy struck again. His youngest child, William, eight years

old, was climbing in a tree and fell.

They gave him a transfusion, but he died.

So his kid's eight years old, he's dead. Anything else happen with this guy that

was tragic?

He stayed on the land until he sold out in 1956, made a fortune.

Okay. Lived for another 13 years. He died in 1969 at the age of 96.

This is the death certificate.

So he lived a long life. Yeah.

So with all the money this guy made, it couldn't buy him happiness or the health

of his family, no?

I'm seeing the old creeper guy again.

He possibly was an owner of this.

location at some point i see him in a car accident he

was a businessman he was wealthy and he loves looking in windows

that's like a big thing he was like lurking

he's so creepy

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So far, I've got a couple being terrorized by some really bizarre

a property that has seen more than a spare share of death.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I find Marcus West, Fresno's most notorious

murderer. Turns out he lived just a few miles away from Cindy and Stephen's

house.

So I'm heading over to meet a woman who wrote a book about this mass murderer.

She prepared me. She said I'm going to be really pissed when I hear about what

this guy did.

Well, Julia, thanks for meeting with me. I got your book here.

And instead of reading it, I figured I'd reach out to you.

So what can you tell me about this guy, Marcus Wesson?

He was born in Kansas in 1946, and his father was an abusive alcoholic.

So, Julie, how did they wind up in California?

My father left out of the picture, 1960s. The mom takes Marcus Wesson, her

sister, and all the family, and they bring him out to California.

So Marcus grows up. Does he get a job?

Kind of like a freeloader. He doesn't really keep a job. Okay. So he meets

lady.

Rosemary, and she has her own kids, like eight kids.

All right, so I know things turned off with this guy. What happens? Well, he

starts grooming one of Rosemary's younger daughters, who's only eight

to become his wife.

An eight -year -old? Eight -year -old.

He gets permission from her mother to marry her because he let her know that

spoke to him, and God has chosen him to be the Lord and Master.

By 15, she was already pregnant.

They had a number of kids, so they had nine kids altogether.

All right, so this guy is basically a cult leader.

Yes. Okay.

They followed David Koresh, and that was his idol.

Okay.

The younger pervert guy, seeing him interacting with a small female child,

messing with her horribly, she was

very sick mentally, and now even more so.

I think they would have a lot of experiences with the kid out here.

I don't know if they've seen her out here, but it's a possibility, which

obviously would probably freak them out a lot.

All right, so I know he gets arrested for a whole bunch of murders. So what

happened? March 2004.

So by this time, he's married to, like, six different women.

They have over a dozen kids, and there's this custody dispute that happens at

the house.

All right, so did the cops get called to the house?

Yes. When the cops are telling him, come outside, come outside, he comes out

soiled and bloodied.

Cops go inside the house. What do they find?

Horrific scene.

All the bodies were intertwined, one on top of the other. The infant was at the

bottom. Okay. And at the top was the oldest daughter.

Okay, so how many bodies are we talking?

Talking nine.

This is a sick... I mean... There he is. This is him?

That's him.

And he's doing time still?

Yeah, he's in San Quentin right now. He's 73 years old.

He's standing on death row as we speak.

I mean, this is a sick, for lack of a better word.

This younger male who shifts all the time, he is torturing this child.

What experience is she having?

She sees a really old, really old, creepy, bad, bad man.

And he's saying how this thing, which is really him, is going to come at night

and eat her.

That's bad. That scares her. And she's crying, and it's not good.

The living are encountering a dead child, running around, acting out.

She has suffered enough trauma that part of her is here, will always be here.

I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk, but two dead people have me very

concerned.

First, the old lady who is melding with a living woman.

She was very thin, pale.

She had dark circles around her eyes.

Next, I described the creeper guy hanging out in the main bedroom.

His eyes are a little deep. He is...

leering in a perverted way, and he's watching them.

Amy, is that what you saw?

Yeah, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, we're ready to reveal

findings to each other and our clients for the first time.

Well, guys, I'd like you to meet Amy.

She's going to be doing a reveal from one of your bedrooms so that she has the

quiet she wants to talk to you and the dead.

We'll still be able to see and hear each other with the monitors we have set up.

Amy, this is Steve and Cindy.

Now, you guys bought this place about two years ago.

and it was supposed to be your forever dream home, to say it hasn't worked out

would be an understatement. These guys think that whatever's here wants to kill

them, and they're desperate for our help.

So unless Amy's got some questions for you, she'll describe her walk for us.

When I first walked into the house, I encountered an older, deceased female.

What she carries around with her is a lot of nausea and digestive issues.

So I think that the living could have these as well.

I did get that there was a living woman in the house who I believe is a physical

medium. And because of having that type of ability, this living woman and this

deceased elderly woman are starting to merge.

And this is a dangerous situation.

Over time, my fear is the living woman would begin to manifest

the same symptoms as this elderly woman and could even have the

same disease that the woman died from.

I would have never thought that medium.

Do you have any idea your wife might be a medium? She basically described her

and how she is.

Your digestive issues, she cannot sit down and eat a bite of food without it

almost coming up.

Amy, when I interviewed Cindy, her voice would change like something else. It's

kind of talking.

Well, it was happening every time I talked about what it does, and then it

starts doing this to me.

It feels like I got this pressure on my chest or on my esophagus, like it's

pressing down on it.

Is it possible that this... DOA is jumping her or is it something

Well, it's more than that because she's consistently blending with her.

So imagine a long -term jump. But it's not a possession because she's not doing

this out of, you know, a malicious intent. That explains a lot of things.

All right. So any idea who this woman was when she was alive?

I put her in her 60s.

The illness.

That she suffered with was very long, and she was in a lot of pain.

If I had to guess, I would have said, you know, that she died from cancer.

The weird thing is, is that I was very confused on if she actually lived here.

few times during my walk, I felt like there was some kind of relationship

between her and another deceased person that's here.

All right, that's not a lot to go on for me, but...

I want to take a shot in the dark here. Now, one of the first owners of your

land was a businessman named J .C. Faulkner, and he moved here from Kansas.

Now, his mother was a woman named Maddie Faulkner. She suffered from chronic and

painful asthma for years.

So in 1913, she left Kansas and moved out here to Fresno. Now, the hope was

you have this dry air out here that it would help her illness. But

unfortunately, it didn't. Just a few months after getting here, she dropped

dead. She was 65 when she died, and Amy had said she was in her 60s. So I'm

curious if you think Maddie Faulkner might have been the woman you saw.

No.

She felt like a newer dead person, and I did have a sketch of her dying.

Apparently this is the woman that's causing your voice and your physical

to be disrupted.

It makes me upset because, you know, I'm not doing anything to her.

She feels the warmth and the love that you emanate, and you're kind of,

unfortunately, taking on her misery. Some days I get sad for no reason and I

can't explain it and just want to curl up and cry.

Okay, Aime, what else?

The next person that I'd like to discuss is very creepy.

He's constantly changing his form.

When I first encountered him, I saw him weaving in and out of the ceiling.

I was sitting here on the couch watching TV, and I noticed it come into the

room. It appeared that it was about this big, and I...

relay it to other people as a legless spider just because of the way it moved

across the ceiling wow his whole thing is that he's a

stalker but he's not really that interested in adults and i actually

briefly saw him with this child that he

was torturing and

She looked to be about five years of age.

I felt like you might see her as well.

Okay.

Why did it hit you so hard, sweetie?

I've had my daughter's babies over here.

You also saw a little girl.

Yes. I'd come down the hall and I'd see a little girl.

Sitting on the end of the table.

Interesting.

Anything else?

The next individual that I encountered was a dead person that I'm worried

And I called him the Creeper. He looked to be in his late 50s, early 60s. I got

that he was an upper middle class businessman.

I think he may have owned this place at one point.

He showed me that he was in some kind of a really bad car accident and felt it

was important that I knew this.

I also felt that he may have raped someone while he was alive.

Okay, the rape thing kind of threw me off a bit. I don't have anything on

But there was a man who owned this property that was a very successful

businessman, and he did get into a deadly car accident. Oh.

Remember I told you about Matty Faulkner who died from asthma?

Well, her son, J .C., owned the property, and he was a very, very

guy. In 1910, J .C. bought 6 ,000 acres of land in Fresno, including the

property we're on right now. He got rich off this land.

But money didn't bring him happiness.

The year he bought the property, his wife died in childbirth.

The next year, he got into a deadly car accident.

Now, J .C. was behind the wheel of the car, but he hit a motorcyclist. He

watched this guy die in front of him.

So now J .C. owned the land until 1956, and he stayed in Fresno another 13 years

before dying in 1969.

Is it possible this could be the creeper guy?

Yes. As far as all the details, they all match.

Now, you said he's one of the ones you're the most worried about. Why is

He gets off on stalking people.

He's always looking in windows.

He was very open that this was a sexual thing for him to kind of stalk people.

And I felt like he had been busted a few times that you may have seen him as

like a shadowy figure.

Sitting here watching TV, I've seen shadow figures walking past through the

doors.

I can walk in my room, the master bedroom.

I'll feel light.

There's something watching me. I had a sketch done of what I saw this man

doing.

Oh, jeez.

I'm the one that sleeps on that side of the bed.

That's even more sick.

He watches adults, male and female.

And this excites him.

So Cindy's going through a lot here. I want to show you some pictures that I

have of her being assaulted by this person.

Her being scratched.

Then you got like a bruise, like you had a hand wrapped around you on her bicep

area.

And then this one's the...

choke marks around her neck.

I ended up having this person on top of me with their hands around my throat.

I sat there just going, okay, this isn't real, this isn't real, this isn't real.

You've had some other things happen to you that weren't appropriate.

Yep. I thought my husband was knocking in bed with me

and started caressing me and touching me.

The next thing I know, I felt something on top of me.

I mean, I opened my eyes and there was nothing there.

I'm just glad that we're here and that we can put a stop to this as soon as

possible. I want to get this to stop.

I want to be able to sleep.

Cindy, Steve, good news is you're not crazy.

Bad news is you're not crazy.

There's a lot going on in here. So now Amy's going to let you know if there's

anything you can do to stay here, and if so, what it's going to take.

What I would like to do is bring in a team of people. They're an eclectic

They'll be bringing with them a druid practitioner.

Amy, what exactly is a druid practitioner?

A druid is an individual who practices magic.

He'll be handling the collection and removal of the mentally ill man.

And once he's dealt with that, he will then go on to deal with the creeper.

And we're just going to let him do what he wants to with him.

You got a couple of tough characters to get rid of, so you need... Somebody

tough to get him out of here. Yeah.

While he's doing that, the team will be first helping the dead

elderly woman. What they'll be doing is calling in her deceased friend to help

move her on. And then they'll also retrieve this child.

Then they will go over with you, Cindy, specifically a type of meditation.

that you will need to do to shut down.

This will help as far as any random dead people.

How do you feel about that?

I would love to be able to help people, but, I mean, I know right now I need to

take care of myself.

So once everything happens, she'll start feeling better, I assume, after a

while, right?

Oh, yeah, like night and day.

I thought it was going to be way worse than that. That's good.

Now, Cindy was worried about bringing the grandkids here, so I guess after

everything is nice and quiet for a while, they can start bringing the

back in.

I am tickled pink.

This is wonderful. Thank you so very much, all of you. Thank you. This is a

blessing. You guys will get to sleep in the same room again?

Yeah. No, that would be nice.

We appreciate you coming and helping us out.

Cindy and Stephen have a long road ahead of them.

But I'm confident if they bring in a druid practitioner and a group of

to remove the dead, Cindy will have the space she needs to shut down her

abilities, and they'll be able to live in their house in peace.

Good evening, dead files. This is Steve and Cindy.

Wow, it no longer feels like I'm waiting for something to happen. It's

comfortable. I'm no longer getting tortured throughout the day.

I feel like I can't breathe because something's trying to choke me. Yeah,

are so blessed and grateful that Steve and Amy came out and did what it is that

they do to get us into the position that we are now currently in. Thank you so

much.