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Oh, my!
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Sting! Sting!
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Sting is here!
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Deep from the top!
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He was the flag bearer for WCW, and so
for him to come and have that kind of
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iconic moment on the grandest stage of
them all, it probably gets overused, but
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it's the truth, man. It's the Super Bowl
of sports entertainment. So it was
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awesome, and he knew it, too.
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I think the people got a little taste of
everything.
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They got to see that NWO DX.
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swear off that, you know, the match that
never happened.
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The new world owner, Nash Hogan and
Hall.
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I got goosebumps.
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Go back and tell 15 -year -old me,
you're going to go and wrestle, dang it,
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WrestleMania in front of 80 ,000 people.
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But before you do that, you're going to
come up on a riser dressed like the
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Terminator with all these Terminator
robots around you on this platform.
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It's hard to even put into words, just
sitting underneath there waiting for
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that, knowing all this stuff, and I
could hear Arnold's voice.
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The whole thing was just surreal.
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It's the one thing that I felt like he'd
done everything. Gosh dang, you've got
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to check that one off the list. For
everything that he's done and
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man, it's just so fitting to be able to
button it up with that kind of finale.
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And then just to hear the crowd and the
response that they gave, it was, I mean.
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Words can't really describe it. What a
great moment. I believe it was something
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that fans really, really wanted to see.
It was like a dream come true.
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I knew Sting from when I was in WCW, but
at the time, Sting was a top guy,
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and then I left, so I really didn't have
interaction with him other than if I
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said hello, he'd say hello. We really...
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Didn't know each other at all, to be
honest.
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You
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reach
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a certain level in the wrestling
industry and to not look back and say
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did anything with WWE.
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No WrestleMania.
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I just felt like I had something more
that I wanted to do, and it was a text
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that I sent out to both Vince and to
Paul.
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You know, Vince responded immediately
and said, no, we definitely want to talk
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to you.
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At a certain point in time, I knew that
Sting was interested in it, and at a
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certain point in time, I knew that Vince
was interested in it.
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So then it was just a matter of me
speaking to him, Sting, and try to see
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could put something together, and that
was really easy, to be honest.
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It was definitely a good teaser for me.
It let me know that fans were still
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interested and wanted to see something
happen.
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And, of course, you know, that put a big
fire under my butt to, you know, really
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make this thing be as good as it
possibly could.
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You know, look, the intent on our part
was to have him do the video game. It
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very meaningful. Have him be here in
some sort of way. But given his age, how
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long he's been out of the ring, does he
want to be in ring? Does he want to not
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be in ring? Does he want to do something
else altogether?
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I think that everybody realized that I
was serious about coming up here and
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didn't want it to be just like a throw
something in at the very end just to say
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that you did it. No, I really wanted to
do it because I wanted to just have one
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last hurrah with the group that I never
went and worked with.
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I wanted wrestling fans to walk away
saying, man, he brought the best he had.
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So I went all out.
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With the creative and everything else,
that kind of morphed over time. He had a
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particular...
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of folks that he would like to do
something with.
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Obviously, Taker being at the top of
that list but was unavailable.
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Yeah, I've been outspoken about that. I
always wanted to have that match with
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him, and I had so many creative ideas
where we could have told a story.
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And I'm sorry, this is one time when I
think smoke and mirrors would have been
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good thing. I always wanted to do it,
and that's the one thing. If I did have
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regret, it would be that.
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I wish I could have had that match with
Taker because I think that would have
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been a memory for sure that no one would
ever forget.
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Sting and Taker, like, look, we talked
about that at great lengths. Like, is it
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that when Taker had creative already,
Hunter had some creative going forward
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that this Sting thing made sense for, so
it was all, you know, the chips fell
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where they were.
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I do think it's better just to leave
that dream match in our dreams.
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And then the next one he threw out, I
think, was me. So it just, you know, at
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that point was me going back to Vince
and saying, do we want to make this
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happen? And Vince was all for it and we
were able to make a deal. Part of the
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impetus of the way things turned out
with the Sting thing is because I was
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already booked to work with The Rock at
the following year's WrestleMania.
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And we'll build it for more than a year.
That was the intent, belief, everything
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else. Just as time went on.
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Rock's schedule changed much later in
the year, and we weren't able to do the
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match for the following year's
WrestleMania 101 against The Rock.
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Everybody always wanted Sting to come
and compete in a WWE ring, and who was
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going to compete against?
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He, to me, felt like the stalwart for
WCW.
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Hunter kind of felt like that guy for
WWE.
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So it felt like only right for those two
to go head -to -head.
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For me, I'm doing WrestleMania.
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They haven't turned the page on me.
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He said, what about, you know, working
with me? And I went, are you kidding?
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Heck, yeah. I mean, I'm all over that.
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It was a great experience walking
through the curtain. You know, Vince
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normally, who would not actually be the
one to send me through, you know, from
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the gorilla position through the
curtain, he stood up and removed his
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and said, no, I'm going to send Sting.
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That was pretty cool to me, too. And so
he sent me through the curtain. And then
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just to hear the crowd.
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And the response that they gave, it was,
I mean, words can't really describe it.
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I kind of worked behind the scenes, so I
had some say in how that got set up.
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Dolph was the last survivor, and he came
in and saved it by beating up Hunter.
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Like, it was, holy crap, it couldn't
have been laid out any better. It
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have been written any better than it
was. It was a part of that perfect
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I can't remember how long that Ed
Benson's thing had been in the ring at
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point, but it had been a significant
period of time from doing anything on a
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major level. I think if he ever had a
doubt of, like, this might be too big,
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didn't really show because he's a pro.
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So while it might not have showed, he
might not have let on, it was there.
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I'll be honest with you. I mean, it was
pretty stressful for me. I wanted to be
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able to hang. I wanted to be able to...
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You know, go the distance. And I wanted
wrestling fans.
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I wanted Vince McMahon.
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I wanted everybody to say that, you
know, not only did he come with
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he had, but he pulled it off instead of,
oh, man, it was hard watching him, you
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know.
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He was very nervous about it all. He was
and didn't mind telling us about it.
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And it just let me know, like, even
though he's been wrestling all this
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even Sting was in awe of WrestleMania.
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And so I remember telling him, like,
look, if you fall down and you can't get
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up, just push that button on the
necklace on your neck, you know. And he
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like, oh, F you, dog.
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He really got out about that. So
literally that was one thing I kept
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is, Sting, remember the button on the
necklace. Like I just kept going back to
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it all through the weekend.
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No other pay -per -view or no other
event that I was ever personally
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with was anything like that.
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I mean, the biggest thing that I ever
did was WCW couldn't, it doesn't scratch
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the surface to WrestleMania. There's
just no question.
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And for me, just wanting it to be good
for him.
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This might be the only time he does
anything, period, in the WWE.
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As much as people will say, well, he
didn't need WWE to be a big star.
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He didn't, but WrestleMania is
WrestleMania.
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So it was a lot of pressure and anxiety
around wanting it to be right for him
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and to be.
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All that it could be.
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So the first time I heard about having
any involvement in the match, I think I
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was on my way to do my speech for the
whole thing. I ran into Triple H. Paul
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asked me, he said, you know, can you go
to Levi tonight?
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I said, what's Levi?
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He said, it's World Mania. It's the
field. We want to have some.
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For all of us, the clique, so to speak,
this is also like our first time of
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getting to be in the same area, you
know, as DX and NWO.
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So we're all just giddy and having fun.
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I just want to be in the ring with you
guys all tomorrow.
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I don't have my knee brace.
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I'm going to do something physical
tomorrow.
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I don't have my knee brace.
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Like, oh, gosh.
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I remember leaving immediately after the
Hall of Fame and going over to Levi's
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Stadium and us all kind of getting
together, and immediately we sensed this
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going to be magic, even if the match
sucks. Like, that doesn't matter. You
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what I mean? We knew we had magic in a
bottle just with the talent, and I use
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that word loosely when I talk about
myself, but we had that talent around
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ring, and we just thought, man, this is
going to be cool.
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It will be a night forever etched in
history.
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A night heroes are created, careers are
defined, and legends will be born.
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Welcome to WrestleMania!
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I always talk about one of the things
that Stephanie McMahon said to me before
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walked through the curtain at Levi's
Stadium.
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She goes, Sting, just take it all in.
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And believe me, I was taking it all in.
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He is here!
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To walk through on that level, which was
a new level for me. It was enormous.
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This is not just a wrestling crowd.
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This is a WWE crowd.
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And they don't care where I came from,
whether I was with WCW or TNA or whoever
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I was with. It can be so overwhelming
that if I'm not careful, getting too
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up. And so take a big deep breath.
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Let's try to get this match under your
belt.
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So it was a funny moment under the stage
where I had not seen Sting's rehearsal
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with the smoke.
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And we're all under the stage. Black
smoke starts to pour in from everywhere.
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People are freaking out. And we don't
know what's going on. I don't know if
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underneath the stage is on fire.
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Funny in retrospect, but in the moment,
it wasn't really necessarily so funny.
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I remember they had, like, a bunch of
drummers and stuff, some, like, Asian
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corps thing, right?
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Okay, cool, cool.
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You know, he's got some guys beat on
drums, and here comes the Terminator,
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know, walking out with Triple H. Yeah,
it's pretty tough to outdo his energy.
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He's always going to edge out in that
department. Yeah, yeah.
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I hear he's got connections.
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Yeah, rumor has it.
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And for the first time ever at
WrestleMania, the match we never ever
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we'd see, Triple H and Sting one -on
-one.
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There was a moment early in the match
where his leg got caught.
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And I was like, oh my God, we're like a
minute in and he just blew out his ACL
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or something like that. But then he was
okay.
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I remember thinking in my head as we
started to get into it and things were
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that... Okay, now we're about to get to
this stuff where they don't know any of
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the involvement of the people that are
about to come out.
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DX ran down. We
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looked at each other going, and it was a
long entranceway. We go, we're walking,
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right? And, you know, they go, go. So we
go through the curtain.
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And then, oh, there's another long
hallway, then another curtain. Because
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the pop reaction from the music, and we
step out like, oh.
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We were down there at ringside, and when
that NWO music hit, if you remember
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that, this is the part where you B -roll
this part in.
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Oh, God!
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No!
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All of a sudden, their music hits, and
here they come walking down that ramp.
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And for one thing, the ramp was like 500
yards long, and they looked like ants
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when they came out, and it took them
like 45 minutes to get down there.
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But once they got down there, man, it
did feel like there was a closing of the
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armies. You know what I mean?
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I told, kid, you go to Hulk.
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I said, Kev, you and Billy go beat each
other up. I said, I'm going to Road
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Dogg.
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I mean, Billy got me, you know, came at
me at 100 miles an hour.
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So I looked over. Me and Scott Hall are
like, we may as well be dancing over
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there. We may as well be doing ballroom
dancing.
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And I look over and Kevin's on the
ground just like holding his knee in
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And I'm thinking, man, I'm glad I'm not
fighting with Billy tonight.
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I didn't get to be up there during all
that. I'm in this other part of the
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stadium where I'm going to come run it
out. I'll say this. One thing I know for
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sure is that I rolled out of the ring
and started talking to Ronda Rousey
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because she was ringside.
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Oh, it was just awesome.
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There's a certain point in time in your
career where things stop being about
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getting to the next level and moving up,
and now it just goes. It's about going
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out there and having a good time.
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performing, and there's a lot of
pressure on it and all that, but
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doing it and to be able to go out there
and do it with your buddies and your
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friends and these icons of the business.
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It's funny, I can distinctly remember
lying on the canvas watching the guys on
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the outside going at it, and I felt like
a little kid, like a little fan,
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watching this moment, but seeing their
faces, the...
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excitement, joy, the amazement of where
they were in that moment, and for all of
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us to be out there kind of sharing that
and doing that together, it was just
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really cool.
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This is a moment that wrestling fans are
never going to forget, and I'm part of
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it.
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It's unbelievable to think that you're a
major ingredient in this whole thing.
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It's a 20 -year story, basically.
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It's all kind of coming to a crescendo.
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And that's closure in itself.
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Here is your winner,
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Triple H!
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You know, there are people that will
say, well, I should have put him over to
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give him the moment. And that's arguably
to say that you should have. The Rock
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situation made that impossible, which
didn't happen.
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But that's the truth of it. Like, are
there things that could have been done
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differently? Yeah, I don't know that it
took away from anything.
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Yes, I've had wrestling fans constantly
talk about that. You know, he didn't let
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you win, you know, blah, you know, and
all this kind of stuff. And I go, what
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you guys remember about that night?
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They start talking about seeing
everybody out there, the NWO, DX.
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Isn't it funny that you guys don't talk
about who wins or loses?
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You just, it's a memory, right? It's a
memory. It's a great memory.
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I remember sitting when we finally were
going over the finish, and, you know,
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Chip Blake was laying it out, and then
he goes, then I'm going to hit him with
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the pledge hammer, one, two, three. And
it still worked out great.
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But I admit I was surprised.
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The end of the match was going to go
differently, but there was creative
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forward. So it went one way for one
reason, and then that creative that was
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going forward never happened. So it was,
in retrospect, we probably wish we
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would have done things a little
differently. But, again, iconic match.
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Fans thought they'd never see that. I
thought I'd never see that.
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And there I was standing in the middle
of the ring being a part of it. It was
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really cool.
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Whoa, there's a WrestleMania moment.
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We may have never thought we were going
to see it. I'm certainly glad we did.
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I think for wrestling fans, especially
if we're not going to take it any
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farther, and we were not going to, that
was a one -off. There's a shaking of
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hands, there's an embrace, and it's
almost like a mutual respect kind of a
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thing, and I think it ended perfect like
that.
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There's a point in time, though, I
think, in those moments where fans are
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willing to accept that the show is now
over and everybody's just coming out and
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taking a bow together.
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That is a real moment in there, and
that's...
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It's really cool when you can be
involved in a sports entertainment
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that's real life oriented and
everybody's in on it. You know what I
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that's that kind of moment where it's
like, heck yeah, man, it's a good day to
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be a fan.
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Fans, they got to be inside. They got to
be in the moment backstage when we
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would have normally walked back through
the curtain and gave each other a big
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hug. They get to sit and watch us do
that part. And in the right
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in the right moment, I think that is
huge and meaningful.
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because we let them be a part of what
was real, Don.
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I do have those moments where I think,
you know, every time I hear Flair, for
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example, telling a story, I told Vince
20 years ago, 25 years ago,
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he's the guy. If Sting would have ever
gone up to WWE way back when, oh, my
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gosh, and then the stories they tell.
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Sometimes I think, why didn't I do that?
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And then on another day, I'm having a
conversation with people about
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WrestleMania and the good moment that we
had with all the characters. and I
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think, wow, I think it ended just the
way it should have ended.
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I was happy because, I mean, he probably
got a chance to get that recognition to
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be a WWE superstar.
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What the hell?
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Oh, my God, it's Sting!
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It was really cool personally for me to
get to reunite with him and then to have
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fun with him, too, even if it was poking
at him a little bit. Like, he poked at
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me, too, believe you me, but we had a
good time.
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And then we put out a good product. And
so, man, it's good friends and good
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times and good raffling.
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I love it.
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It meant closure in a way. I mean, I did
it. I'm here.
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Came in here late, had a crazy cool
moment, just relit that everything about
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Sting was.
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It just was all really cool.
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was done in a great way. Was it perfect?
Was it all the things that, if you
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could have written it fantasy -wise,
maybe not, but it was probably as close
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it as you could expect to get.
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Every appearance that I've ever done
since then, you know, wrestling fans,
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they talk about that, they just, they
cannot believe what they saw that day.
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I'm just going to go ahead and say it. I
think it's going to have to go down in
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history as one of the greatest moments
in WrestleMania history.
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