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The 9th of August 1945,
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the American armed forces
interrogate Gisela Limberger,
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personal secretary to
reichsmarschall Hermann Goering.
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She said,
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"Goering used to select the objects
for himself and for the Fuhrer.
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My duties included compiling
the lists of paintings,
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tapestries and pieces of
furniture, attending auctions,
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and keeping the masterpieces
safe in the air-raid shelters,
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until February 1944,
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when everything was handed
over to Walter Hofer."
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Walter Hofer...
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Goering's personal art agent
and director of his collection.
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One thousand three hundred seventy
six paintings, 250 sculptures
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and 168 tapestries.
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Here he is, just after the
surrender to the Americans.
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He cooperated eagerly and helped
to catalogue Goering's hoard.
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Interrogated by lieutenant colonel hinkel
on the 6th of November 1945, he said,
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"I bought art in Goering's name.
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My reward was to keep
the works he didn't want."
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And when asked where the money to buy
these works came from, he replied,
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"I can't be sure, but I think
the money belonged to the state."
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We will meet several men
like Hofer in this story,
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an army of curators, critics,
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historians and even artists,
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who placed their talent at the
service of the Nazi regime,
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and participated in the raids,
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especially on the homes and
galleries of Jewish collectors.
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Six hundred thousand artworks were
purloined from private owners,
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museums, churches and galleries.
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One hundred thousand
are yet to be found.
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Of the rest, little
or nothing is known.
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This is the story of how Hitler
looted the great beauty of Europe.
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And how he stole not
just human lives
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but the artistic flowering
of an entire culture.
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It was more than
just an obsession for art.
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It was an obsession
to wipe out an entire culture.
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They were looking to destroy
Jewish people.
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It was a weapon for them.
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Another weapon to the Germans.
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Every one of these
pictures has a story.
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And the backdrop to this great
looting is the holocaust.
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Now, over 80 years later,
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these recovered works have been
put on display at four exhibitions.
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In Paris, France. In Bern, Switzerland.
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in Bonn, Germany. And in
deventer, the Netherlands.
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Many owners and institutions
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are still battling to regain
what once was theirs.
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Some people maybe don't
understand the connection between
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the theft of our art,
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and families like mine
actually losing their lives.
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The two things
are very directly connected.
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In many cases,
they had collections seized,
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merely saying that the owners
were "away" or "on the run".
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But often, the Nazis themselves
had deported them to the camps.
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So it was sophistry,
macabre sophistry.
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It all began in 1937.
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Two exhibitions took
place in Munich.
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The first, on "degenerate art,"
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the works and the artists
the Nazis decried.
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From Marc Chagall to
Wassily Kandinsky.
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The cubist style of the spaniard
Pablo Picasso was frowned upon, too.
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Matisse, monet and the
impressionists fared no better.
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Their works were requisitioned
and auctioned off
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through amenable dealers and
collectors, especially in Switzerland,
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and were used by the regime as
an investment and to raise cash.
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The other exhibition
is this one.
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The great German art exhibition,
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in which the Fuhrer
took a personal interest.
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It marked the start of the great
obsession with classical art,
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that would see Goering
and Hitler locking horns
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for the heritage
of the occupied countries.
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We have met many people.
Researchers, historians,
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and the descendants of those who
were robbed and often killed.
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They have all helped
to reconstruct a story...
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That still today has yet to end.
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By doing all the work that we do
to document what happened,
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we're also restoring
to the historical record
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people who've been erased from it.
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They stole everything.
Thanks to the Mobel Aktion
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they looted entire apartments,
with pendulum clocks, bed linen,
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children's toys and cars,
and then the paintings.
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Does evil have a face?
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Can you see it in
someone's eyes?
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Charlie Chaplin was born
in the same week
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of the same month
of the same year as Hitler.
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In 1940, when he parodied him in the
great dictator, they were both 51.
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One was a star of Hollywood. The
other was devastating a continent.
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Edgar feuchtwanger was seven years
old when he met Hitler in 1930.
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The future Fuhrer was 41,
they were neighbors in Munich.
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Edgar remembers
him in his book.
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"He's right in front of us,
outside his apartment block.
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I see that he has shaved his
beard, as my father sometimes does.
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He has blue eyes. I never knew.
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You can't see in the photos.
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I thought his eyes were
completely black.
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I've never seen him so close.
He has hairs in his nose and ears.
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He's shorter than I thought.
Shorter than my father.
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The passers-by stop, so do we.
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He looks at me. I ought
to look away.
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But I can't. I stare at him.
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Perhaps I should smile at him?
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I am his neighbor, after all!
Does he recognize me?
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Does he know I watch
him from my bedroom?
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Does he know I'm a Jew?
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I don't want him to hate me.
Or my father. Or my mother."
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Because it's very difficult...
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About a person
you've actually seen like that.
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The idea that he will turn
the whole world upside down,
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is something... you can't grasp.
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"I have now decided before the
closing of my earthly career,
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to take as my wife that girl, who after
long years of faithful friendship,
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entered of her own free will
a practically besieged city,
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in order to share her
destiny with mine.
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At her own desire, she goes as
my wife with me to death."
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On the marriage certificate
signed by them both,
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Eva braun corrected her
surname to Hitler.
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On the 29th of April 1945,
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Adolf Hitler dictated his
private will to his secretary.
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Then he put a pistol
to his right temple and fired.
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By his side, Eva braun had
taken her own life with poison.
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She was wearing her
black wedding dress.
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The destiny of the Fuhrer's art collection
featured prominently in his will.
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"What I possess belongs to the
party.
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Should this no longer
exist, to the state.
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Should the state
too be destroyed,
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no further decision on
my part is needed.
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I have acquired collection of
paintings over the years,
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not for my private enjoyment,
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but solely out of a desire to endow a
picture gallery in my birthplace, Linz."
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The Fuhrer had planned the
ultimate museum for Germany,
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the louvre of Linz,
the city where he grew up,
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where he had begun
his mediocre painting career,
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rejected twice by the
Vienna academy of fine arts.
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Hermann Goering, Hitler's
deputy,
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also left a record
of his own obsession with art,
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a catalogue, listing all the
works in his collection,
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ordered with teutonic
discipline from 1933 onwards,
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with the artist, provenance,
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description, date, dealer
and location.
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After the war, the manuscript would
be used as evidence against him.
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Jean-Marc Dreyfus, holocaust scholar
and lecturer at Manchester university,
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has reconstructed the journey of the
Generalfeldmarschall's collection.
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He has edited the French
edition of the manuscript,
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with historians and archivists
from the Quai d'Orsay.
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Goering's gallery was valued in
1944 at 50 million deutschmarks.
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In today's money, that's
18 million Euros.
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He had a kind of hunger,
a bottomless gluttony for riches.
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He was one of the greatest
looters in history,
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even more so than Hitler.
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This is confirmed
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by the statement of the party newspaper's
most important art critic, Robert Scholz.
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He worked for the err,
the special Nazi unit
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led by Alfred Rosenberg that
looted the occupied territories.
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"Goering had asked Hitler
for permission
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to examine the collections confiscated so
far and to decide what to do with them.
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Hitler received about
40 masterpieces,
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including works by Vermeer,
Rubens, Boucher.
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Most of them belonged
to the rothschild collections.
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Hermann Goering kept
around 700 works for himself,
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including paintings by Van Dyck,
Goya and Van de Velde."
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It was the finest art collection
bar none in the Nazi era.
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All the greats of European
painting, of European heritage,
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were there.
Leonardo da Vinci, Tiepolo, Titian.
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There was a real fixation with Cranach.
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Carinhall, a residence 60
kilometers north of Berlin,
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was Goering's gallery
of wonders.
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This place, in the heart
of the imperial forest,
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became a hedonists' heaven...
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With dinners and
hunting parties,
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where Goering entertained the German
and international aristocracy,
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at Hitler's behest.
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The Nazis were possessed with
status.
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And art is a traditional
means of...
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Rising status.
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People who dread power,
try to look as much as they can,
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on the old power.
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Germany had this tradition
of high nobility,
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connected to the German emperor,
old family ties.
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And the Nazis were
just bourgeois.
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So they built hunting lodges
because the nobility liked to hunt,
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they'd buy hunting scenes.
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They do everything to
show the old power
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that the new power
speaks the same language.
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Which they don't, eventually.
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Goering had blue
blood from his mother,
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and felt at ease
in the role of an aristocrat.
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His first wife was Danish
baroness, carin Von kantzow.
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He worshipped her,
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and after her premature death
in 1931, aged just 43,
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he dedicated the villa to her
as a mausoleum.
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Here, surrounded by portraits of carin,
Goering lived with his second wife,
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playing with his train sets,
always on a diet, always obese.
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He was a very complex, childish character.
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He liked to wear make-up,
as the photos show,
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and dressing up,
we see him in various outfits.
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At one point, he was likened
to a brothel manager, a pimp.
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All very odd yet he was also
a powerful, highly intelligent man.
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Goering was consumed by his
passion for art and money.
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In January 1945, when the Russians
were already at the gates of Berlin,
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he waited to the last minute
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before ordering
his gallery to be evacuated.
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Before giving the order
to blow up carinhall,
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he had the bronzes by arno
breker, the sculptor of the reich,
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thrown in the waters
of the wuchersee.
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The special trains that had brought
artworks to the villa over the years,
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were now packed with statues and paintings
and sent to secure hiding places.
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Amid the peaks of styria, in
Austria, lies altaussee salt mine.
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From August 1943,
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giant racks were built in chambers
hewn from the rock by the miners,
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to keep thousands of artworks
safe for the Fuhrer's museum.
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Here, in may 1945,
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the Americans found part
of Hitler's treasure trove.
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Six thousand five hundred
paintings, statues,
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coins, weapons,
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antiquarian books and
pieces of furniture.
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There were Michelangelo's Madonna
and child, stolen in Bruges,
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the imposing Ghent Altarpiece
by the Van Eyck brothers,
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removed from the cathedral in Ghent and
dismantled to fit through the tunnels,
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and one of the paintings
that Hitler craved the most.
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The astronomer by Jan Vermeer,
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plundered from the rothschild family,
the ultimate symbol of the Jewish enemy.
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Along with the works
in Hitler's hoard,
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there were several masterpieces
from Goering's.
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They included Titian's
Danae...
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A Madonna by Raphael...
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The blind leading the blind
by Brueghel the elder...
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And Antea by Parmigianino.
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The paintings, now all in the
museo di capodimonte in Naples,
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had been placed in montecassino
Abbey for safekeeping.
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The German troops in Goering's division
stole them and brought them to Berlin,
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as the reichsmarschall's
51st birthday present.
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The American army
had set up a special unit in Washington
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made up solely of art historians,
called "the Monuments Men",
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enlisted soldiers who monitored
all artwork movements around Europe.
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The monuments men worked in
the field in war-torn Europe,
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while in New York,
in this library,
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other experts planned
the efforts
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to safeguard the cultural heritage of
the countries involved in the conflict.
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Here, they studied maps
and art history manuals,
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they compared photographs
and street plans,
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and marked out the
monuments to save.
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Churches, museums,
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historic buildings
and archaeological sites.
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They gathered together here at
the frick art reference library,
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partly because it is
this institution
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that had the resources to help
them get this information together.
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And then eventually prepare maps
to give to the army air corps,
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that would allow the pilots to
avoid important monuments in Europe,
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in the many, many bombing raids
they launched during 1943 and '44.
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In merkers,
north of Frankfurt,
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the us troops under generals
eisenhower and patton,
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found the reichsbank's hoard of
gold and cash in a potassium mine.
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It was worth over 520
million dollars.
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Piled up in a corner were 400 paintings
evacuated from some Berlin museums,
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including in the conservatory
by eduard manet,
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and goya's carnivorous vulture.
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One of the caves contained
207 sealed containers,
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part of the SS Booty,
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not yet laundered
by the Reichsbank,
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full of valuables,
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seized from concentration
camp deportees.
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Coins, silverware and jewelry.
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And the prisoners' gold teeth.
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It would emerge,
that all the transactions for the SS Haul
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went through an account
in the name of Max Heilinger,
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aka Heinrich Himmler,
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the architect of the genocide.
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Five hundred kilometers to the
south, in Berchtesgaden,
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home to Hitler's retreat,
the eagle's nest,
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the statues and paintings
transported by Goering's trains
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were found hidden in
another salt mine.
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That is where the paintings of
Jacques Goudstikker also ended up,
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thanks to Goering.
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Goudstikker was a respected
Amsterdam art dealer.
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This is a catalogue
of his exhibition from 1930.
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He was Jewish,
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and when the Nazis invaded
Holland on the 10th of may 1940,
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Goering and his dealer, Hofer,
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had already earmarked 1,240
of his works for themselves.
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Goudstikker's story
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typifies how these affairs
dragged on for decades,
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leaving the grandchildren the task
of achieving closure with the past.
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In an apartment in New York,
in a central district built in the 1930s,
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the walls are hung
with some of the masterpieces
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from the Goudstikker collection,
recovered after protracted legal battles.
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Charlene Von Saher
is Jacques's granddaughter.
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She lives here with
her mother, Marei.
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After the war, Goudstikker's wife
had asked the Dutch government
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for her husband's collection
to be returned,
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but only part of it came back.
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The bulk of the collection
had been declared
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"national property of the Netherlands,"
and shared among the country's museums.
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In 1997,
a journalist from Rotterdam,
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who was investigating the
non-return of assets after the war,
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tracked down Charlene and
her mother here in New York.
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With his help, and thanks
to the gallery labels
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that her grandfather had put
on the back of the pictures,
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she decided to make
a new claim...
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A step towards reuniting
the collection of paintings
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that goudstikker had exhibited
many times in nyenrode castle,
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before the Nazi occupation.
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He used the castle
to display his art.
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He brought his customers from
Amsterdam on the amstel on the boat,
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to the castle, and showed them
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all the beautiful paintings
he had acquired.
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What a great way to display art.
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Nyenrode castle stands in
the utrecht countryside.
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It's now a university.
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In 1930, Jacques Goudstikker
had bought it
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to hold cultural soirees
and charity events.
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Every room was furnished in
the style of a different era.
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It was at one of his
big charity parties
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that he called vienen
an der werkt,
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where he created Vienna
on the werkt river
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brought in a big orchestra
and oriental carpets,
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and chandeliers with candles
and invited my grandmother,
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Desi Von Halban, a soprano,
from Vienna,
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to sing at this party.
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And that's where they first met.
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And they fell in love and were
married shortly afterwards.
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Charlene's grandmother desi was
Jewish, originally from Poland.
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The castle's rooms
were her stage,
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which she graced with elegance
but without ostentation.
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She loved the skies and clouds of
Holland and singing Puccini arias.
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She and Jacques were a wealthy,
happy couple.
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After 1938,
many Jews living in the Netherlands
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had begun to leave the country.
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Jacques put off the decision and
continued to run his gallery,
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meanwhile, their son,
eduard, was born.
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Before leaving, he tried to save his
vast, cherished art collection,
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especially the masterpieces
of the great flemish masters,
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and the Italian baroque.
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To no avail.
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Of those 1,240 works,
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three hundred ended
up at carinhall,
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fifty paintings were given to Hitler.
The rest were put up for sale.
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Hermann Goering showed up on the
doorstep of my grandfather's gallery,
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the minute they left.
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But he knew well in advance
what was there.
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They all did their research
before the war.
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Jacques, Desi and their son,
aged just a few months, fled westward.
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They wanted to reach england and
then the usa, but they had no visas.
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At the north sea
port of Jmuiden,
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a soldier recognized Desi,
who had often sung for the troops.
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He helped them to board the last
ship before it left, the bodegraven.
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They were safe.
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But there would be no American
dream in store for Jacques.
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He went up for some air,
and it was dark,
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and he fell into a trap
hole in the deck,
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and he was killed instantly.
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And my grandmother waited
and waited for his return,
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and he never came back.
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Normally, they would throw
people overboard, but...
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My grandmother was lucky she could plan
a funeral for my grandfather in Falmouth.
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She planned the funeral,
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but she was not allowed
to attend the funeral.
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And she wanted to make sure they
sang, Cole Porter's "night and day."
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Desi was left
with a babe in arms,
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and a little black book
found by her husband's body.
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It listed all the
works he owned,
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many of which were already
in Goering and Hitler's hands.
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On his 45th birthday, the Reich
air force minister, General Goering,
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was awarded numerous decorations
and honoured by a visit from the Fuhrer,
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who gave him a priceless painting
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that would have
pride of place in his house.
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00:28:23,459 --> 00:28:25,957
Hitler and Goering
were great friends,
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they had both fought
in World War I,
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they were side by side
in the Munich beer hall
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during their attempted
coup of 1923.
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And they were together
on the 30th of January 1933,
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the day Hitler became
chancellor of the reich.
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But when the great looting
of Europe's art heritage began,
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they became rivals,
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vying for the finest pieces.
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A great rivalry emerged between
Goering and Hitler,
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they even tried to pinch works
from under each other's noses.
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Hitler himself, who had
only recently realised
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that he could exploit the situation,
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issued an order that the Fuhrer
had first choice of the works.
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For the leaders of the reich,
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the need to build a strong,
absolute identity,
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became an obsession that was
increasingly bound up with art.
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The process of constructing
the Nazi narrative
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also involved the quest
for an absolute aesthetic
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harking back to the classical
ideals of perfection.
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The relationship between
art and politics,
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thus became central to the
organization of the new German empire.
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00:30:07,802 --> 00:30:10,471
Propaganda minister, Joseph
Goebbels,
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led the campaigns against
anyone, who was out of step.
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00:30:20,563 --> 00:30:25,962
The Nazis knew full well how effective
art is in the public domain,
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00:30:26,602 --> 00:30:31,801
and they exploited art for propaganda
purposes - with great success.
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The Day of German Art in Munich.
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Chancellor Hitler attends
the impressive parade
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commemorating German art
over the centuries.
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On the 18th of July 1937,
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Munich celebrated the opening
of the house of German art
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designed by Paul Ludwig troost,
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one of the Fuhrer's
favorite architects.
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00:31:00,654 --> 00:31:02,723
It was a triumph of swastikas,
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floats and virile power.
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00:31:05,364 --> 00:31:07,994
The parade included a model
of the new building.
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Hitler had just opened the great
exhibition on German art there,
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"the art of the people,"
as he termed it in his speech.
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00:31:16,505 --> 00:31:18,504
"Majesty and beauty,
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purity and wellbeing
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to counter the last elements
of our cultural decay."
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The next day, the 19th,
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the exhibition of degenerate
art opened in the hofgarten.
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And so in Munich, a few hundred
metres apart, began the clash
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between what was now to be the
official art and the art that...
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yes, it's no exaggeration to
say, that was to be destroyed.
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The exhibitions were
polar opposites,
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as art historian berthold
hinz explains.
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One featured expressionism,
impressionism, surrealism, cubism
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the art of the "isms," as the
Fuhrer scornfully dismissed it:
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Fleeting fashions,
deviancy, chaos.
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00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:14,897
The other was about
classical art,
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with its reassuring,
beautiful, immortal works,
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like the paintings
of Adolf ziegler,
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delegated by Hitler
to curate the exhibition.
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In no other city were these two
extremes so dramatically expressed.
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Distortion, expressivity,
radical questions, on one hand,
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state-endorsed classical
beauty, on the other.
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00:32:49,267 --> 00:32:52,467
Joseph goebbels also
appointed Adolf Ziegler
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to select the works
of the "degenerate" artists,
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from Paul Klee to
Oskar Kokoschka,
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00:32:58,677 --> 00:33:01,348
from Otto Dix to El Lissitzky.
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In just over two weeks,
650 paintings and sculptures
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00:33:06,719 --> 00:33:10,258
were commandeered from
32 German museums.
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The exhibition would tour
to another 12 cities
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in Germany and Austria.
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It would be seen by an audience
of over two million people.
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A remarkable success.
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Many of the works were
hung haphazardly, askew,
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some without frames, to make
it all look especially ugly and chaotic.
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Freedom of expression and the
extreme languages of modern art
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were presented to the public as a
threat to the aesthetic of the reich
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00:33:54,669 --> 00:33:56,799
and to Hitler's ideology.
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00:33:57,740 --> 00:34:00,611
That exhibition marked
a point of no return.
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00:34:00,641 --> 00:34:02,610
Some artists were Jewish,
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00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,311
but so, moreover,
were many collectors of the avant-garde.
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00:34:06,351 --> 00:34:10,922
And anti-semitism was
at the root of Nazi doctrine.
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00:34:11,929 --> 00:34:15,570
Teacher and architect
Paul Schultze-Naumburg
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published a book,
"Art and Race",
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00:34:18,851 --> 00:34:26,051
which depicted human clinical
cases alongside modern artworks.
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00:34:26,211 --> 00:34:30,211
He was trying to create
a visual link between
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artworks and disease, enfeeblement
and racial inferiority.
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00:34:37,912 --> 00:34:41,713
This text,
first published in 1928,
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served as a reference for the
exhibition on degenerate art.
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00:34:46,522 --> 00:34:49,692
But the origin of this term
is quite ironic.
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00:34:50,591 --> 00:34:55,962
It was coined in 1892
by a Jewish doctor, Max Nordau.
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He had studied modern social phenomena
and the decadence of the ruling classes.
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00:35:04,142 --> 00:35:07,842
He admired lombroso and his
theories of physiognomy.
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00:35:08,883 --> 00:35:11,182
He believed that the
artists of his era
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had been seduced by the neuroses
and madness of the times,
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and that their works were the
expression of a terrible epidemic
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that had led to a
degenerate art.
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00:35:23,723 --> 00:35:27,733
So, the Nazis made
the most of this.
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00:35:28,733 --> 00:35:31,863
And since the new artistic
trends were supported,
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above all, by the
Jewish dealers...
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00:35:35,574 --> 00:35:38,504
The connection became
tragically clear.
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00:35:42,143 --> 00:35:44,045
The Nazis' love for art
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00:35:44,584 --> 00:35:49,554
entered the realms of the absurd
with the sculptor Rudolf Belling.
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His works actually appeared
in both the 1937 exhibitions.
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00:35:58,394 --> 00:36:02,665
His expressionist sculptures
the triad and head in brass,
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00:36:02,934 --> 00:36:05,105
featured in the degenerate
exhibition,
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00:36:05,135 --> 00:36:10,406
the boxeur, a portrait of boxer
Max Schmeling, in the German one.
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- Max Schmeling.
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00:36:15,585 --> 00:36:17,784
In may 1936 in New York,
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the German boxer Max Schmeling
knocked out the American Joe Louis,
471
00:36:23,286 --> 00:36:25,626
nicknamed the "brown bomber."
472
00:36:39,576 --> 00:36:44,576
For the regime, Schmeling became
the Aryan symbol to show the world,
473
00:36:44,946 --> 00:36:48,317
in the year when Germany
hosted the Olympics in Berlin.
474
00:36:49,315 --> 00:36:52,916
Two years later, when Schmeling
returned to America for the rematch,
475
00:36:53,256 --> 00:36:55,256
he was the fighter
with the swastika.
476
00:36:55,886 --> 00:36:57,427
Louis knocked him out.
477
00:36:57,697 --> 00:36:59,826
Schmeling was no longer
of use to Hitler.
478
00:36:59,856 --> 00:37:04,167
But in 1937, the year of the
two exhibitions in Munich,
479
00:37:04,197 --> 00:37:06,597
he was still the
lord of the ring.
480
00:37:10,577 --> 00:37:13,897
This is surely also why
the Rudolf Belling bust
481
00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:16,177
was allowed to remain
in the exhibition.
482
00:37:16,337 --> 00:37:18,698
Indeed, this provides
an interesting end to the whole story.
483
00:37:18,778 --> 00:37:24,377
"The Triad" and "Head in Brass" were
removed from the degenerate-art exhibition
484
00:37:24,537 --> 00:37:28,337
so that Max Schmeling could
stay in the other one.
485
00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:34,328
Schmeling found himself amid
the swastikas,
486
00:37:34,798 --> 00:37:38,628
lauded as an Aryan man
and portrayed like a Greek god.
487
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,307
This and the next seven editions
of the great German art exhibition
488
00:37:43,737 --> 00:37:48,139
were a paean to rustic life,
to the old crafts and trades,
489
00:37:48,348 --> 00:37:52,648
to bucolic landscapes,
to the family and motherhood.
490
00:37:53,978 --> 00:37:57,699
It was simple rustic painting;
491
00:37:57,859 --> 00:38:01,419
naturally, the mother and child
now became a strong theme,
492
00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:06,379
and nudes were painted, incredibly,
that verged on the obscene.
493
00:38:06,539 --> 00:38:14,499
This was clearly supposed to encourage
mothers to "give"the Fuhrer,
494
00:38:14,659 --> 00:38:17,180
as they put it, many children.
495
00:38:18,109 --> 00:38:21,211
Healthy, handsome, blond children.
496
00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:26,150
Genes to improve the race,
in life and in the museums.
497
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:30,290
Those who failed to meet those
standards were to be eliminated
498
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,821
from art and from the world.
499
00:38:33,361 --> 00:38:37,430
But even the most rigid ideology
can be prey to contradictions.
500
00:38:41,872 --> 00:38:46,170
Emil nolde, a Nazi party member
and diehard anti-semite,
501
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,071
found his expressionist works
among the degenerate artists.
502
00:38:50,441 --> 00:38:53,681
Yet Goering would keep
collecting his paintings.
503
00:38:54,611 --> 00:38:57,210
The same applied
to Max Beckmann.
504
00:38:57,751 --> 00:38:59,251
His art was suppressed,
505
00:38:59,551 --> 00:39:02,721
yet it still hung in the
parlors of Berlin's elite,
506
00:39:02,922 --> 00:39:05,551
frequented by the party's
leading lights.
507
00:39:11,601 --> 00:39:15,832
In those tumultuous days,
many important German Jews
508
00:39:15,872 --> 00:39:19,172
deplored the Nazi party's
ingrained anti-semitism...
509
00:39:19,772 --> 00:39:23,512
While valuing the idea
of a strong, stable Germany.
510
00:39:25,383 --> 00:39:27,011
They all felt German.
511
00:39:27,211 --> 00:39:30,512
Soon, they would
become just Jews.
512
00:39:40,893 --> 00:39:44,793
This is what happened to
Fritz and Louise Gutmann,
513
00:39:45,103 --> 00:39:48,732
Simon's grandparents,
and his father, Bernard.
514
00:39:49,072 --> 00:39:51,873
The affair would rear its head
many years later,
515
00:39:51,903 --> 00:39:54,743
as a huge delivery of boxes
came from Germany
516
00:39:54,973 --> 00:39:57,144
to invade his life in the usa.
517
00:40:01,783 --> 00:40:06,554
The boxes arrived at my
brother's house in the valley.
518
00:40:06,584 --> 00:40:10,853
And he called me over,
said, "you have to come.
519
00:40:11,364 --> 00:40:15,064
All these things have just arrived.
What are we going to do with them?"
520
00:40:22,604 --> 00:40:26,875
Simon knew that there was
something unspoken in his family.
521
00:40:29,045 --> 00:40:32,745
His father had always
been sad and pained.
522
00:40:33,844 --> 00:40:35,685
Now he was dead,
523
00:40:36,155 --> 00:40:39,485
and here in front of him,
a mountain of old papers,
524
00:40:39,525 --> 00:40:43,925
letters and exhibition catalogues
that had arrived in Los Angeles.
525
00:40:52,564 --> 00:40:57,605
It all revolved around Fritz and
Louise Gutmann, his grandparents,
526
00:40:58,175 --> 00:41:00,945
and those all-too-brief years
between the wars.
527
00:41:01,545 --> 00:41:04,975
They lived here in the Bosbeek
estate, near the hague.
528
00:41:05,946 --> 00:41:09,287
In that endless garden
full of centuries-old trees,
529
00:41:09,317 --> 00:41:11,885
Simon's dad and his
sister, Lili,
530
00:41:11,925 --> 00:41:13,955
played with a mini
Bugatti pedal car
531
00:41:13,986 --> 00:41:16,496
surrounded by
all their white terrier dogs.
532
00:41:24,196 --> 00:41:25,937
The Gutmanns were German,
533
00:41:26,407 --> 00:41:28,807
they belonged to a
dynasty of bankers.
534
00:41:28,837 --> 00:41:31,137
They had established
the Dresdner bank.
535
00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:35,577
The founding father, Eugen,
a convert from judaism to catholicism,
536
00:41:35,617 --> 00:41:38,677
had assembled the world's
most extraordinary collection
537
00:41:38,717 --> 00:41:41,318
of renaissance gold
and silver objects.
538
00:41:41,518 --> 00:41:46,426
Eventually I discovered
even the kaiser was jealous
539
00:41:46,727 --> 00:41:49,227
of our renaissance gold
and silver collection
540
00:41:49,257 --> 00:41:53,128
he muttered to Bismarck,
"this is fit for a prince."
541
00:41:55,437 --> 00:41:59,238
The most priceless items
included three bracket clocks
542
00:41:59,268 --> 00:42:01,969
with remarkable,
perfectly preserved mechanisms,
543
00:42:02,339 --> 00:42:06,107
now kept in the landesmuseum
Wurttemberg, Stuttgart.
544
00:42:07,047 --> 00:42:10,378
They measure the time
and the movements of the stars.
545
00:42:18,429 --> 00:42:20,559
They are extraordinary objects,
546
00:42:21,059 --> 00:42:25,258
like this piece
where monkeys, stags, lions,
547
00:42:25,467 --> 00:42:31,069
elephants and unicorns listen,
spellbound, to the music of orpheus.
548
00:42:48,158 --> 00:42:51,660
The ostrich flaps its
wings on the hour,
549
00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:55,161
and the little bear beats the
drum, you know like a clock.
550
00:43:09,179 --> 00:43:12,711
After the great war,
Fritz Gutmann left Germany
551
00:43:12,751 --> 00:43:14,280
and settled in the Netherlands.
552
00:43:14,310 --> 00:43:17,419
He was entranced by Guardi
and Cranach the elder,
553
00:43:17,449 --> 00:43:19,419
Memling and Bosch.
554
00:43:19,449 --> 00:43:21,191
But he also loved modern art.
555
00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:26,362
In Paris, he bought
Le Poirier by Renoir in 1928,
556
00:43:26,592 --> 00:43:30,360
Femme se Chauffant
by Degas in 1929,
557
00:43:30,802 --> 00:43:34,430
and an another Degas,
Paysage, in 1931.
558
00:43:35,041 --> 00:43:37,242
Meanwhile, the family decided
559
00:43:37,272 --> 00:43:39,751
that he would become the trustee
of the renaissance collection.
560
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:41,742
But peace would quickly end.
561
00:43:42,441 --> 00:43:45,442
And, as we have seen
with the Goudstikkers,
562
00:43:45,482 --> 00:43:49,050
the Netherlands would fall
very soon to the German army.
563
00:44:02,762 --> 00:44:04,802
Fritz and Louise still believed
564
00:44:04,832 --> 00:44:08,173
that the rules of the civilized
world applied to the Nazis, too.
565
00:44:10,042 --> 00:44:11,741
They stayed put in Bosbeek.
566
00:44:12,142 --> 00:44:15,912
Then, the visits from
Goering's intermediaries began.
567
00:44:15,942 --> 00:44:17,983
There was Walter Hofer again,
568
00:44:18,214 --> 00:44:22,483
with Alois Miedl and
Julius Buhler, Jr.
569
00:44:23,184 --> 00:44:25,353
The three of them came
to part the Gutmanns
570
00:44:25,392 --> 00:44:27,992
from their gold and silver
at knock-down prices.
571
00:44:28,724 --> 00:44:33,494
Fritz agreed to sell some of it in
return for a visa to leave the country.
572
00:44:34,733 --> 00:44:38,203
When he went to the bank to deposit
the money from the forced sale,
573
00:44:38,674 --> 00:44:42,502
he found his account frozen
and no visa in sight.
574
00:44:43,503 --> 00:44:47,674
In march 1941, a new dealer
knocked at his door.
575
00:44:48,413 --> 00:44:50,115
Karl Haberstock.
576
00:44:50,744 --> 00:44:55,755
He left with the Memling,
Van Goyen,
577
00:44:55,785 --> 00:44:58,185
all sorts of wonderful pieces.
578
00:44:58,554 --> 00:45:02,454
Somebody like Karl Haberstock when
was arrested after the war, you know,
579
00:45:03,193 --> 00:45:06,565
quite plainly declared
to the American soldiers,
580
00:45:06,595 --> 00:45:10,206
"I didn't do anything wrong.
It was just normal business.
581
00:45:10,506 --> 00:45:13,704
I had commissions,
I had to find out for my clients."
582
00:45:13,734 --> 00:45:17,744
His clients were the biggest
mass murderers in history, but...
583
00:45:19,214 --> 00:45:21,775
Gutmann had seen
what was coming
584
00:45:21,815 --> 00:45:25,414
and transferred the administration of
the collection to his brother-in-law,
585
00:45:25,454 --> 00:45:28,455
the Italian fascist
senator Luca Orsini,
586
00:45:28,685 --> 00:45:32,126
whom his sister had married
and moved to Florence with.
587
00:45:33,794 --> 00:45:37,566
He was the official owner,
and the Germans didn't dare touch him.
588
00:45:39,065 --> 00:45:43,236
Their retaliation was to declare
gold and silver to be state assets,
589
00:45:43,867 --> 00:45:49,106
to be locked in a depository in Munich.
Gutmann tried to hold firm.
590
00:45:51,245 --> 00:45:54,446
There were several occasions,
where they tried to make him...
591
00:45:54,476 --> 00:45:58,916
Because if he revoked that transfer,
the shares would come back to him.
592
00:45:58,956 --> 00:46:01,116
And then it would be
a Jewish company again.
593
00:46:01,156 --> 00:46:04,528
And then they could just
legally, under Nazi law,
594
00:46:04,927 --> 00:46:09,056
confiscate everything
as "abandoned Jewish property."
595
00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:13,197
On the 26th of May 1943,
596
00:46:13,397 --> 00:46:17,836
a black Mercedes with two ss men
picked up the Gutmanns from their home.
597
00:46:18,236 --> 00:46:21,607
They promised to take them
to Berlin and on to Italy,
598
00:46:21,647 --> 00:46:24,809
where the brother-in-law
had negotiated safe passage.
599
00:46:25,818 --> 00:46:30,287
But in the German capital,
they were greeted by Goering's henchmen.
600
00:46:31,018 --> 00:46:33,617
Fritz rejected their
offers once again.
601
00:46:34,087 --> 00:46:35,289
And that was it.
602
00:46:36,987 --> 00:46:40,528
They were put on a train, bound for
the theresienstadt concentration camp.
603
00:46:42,828 --> 00:46:44,598
After another ten months,
604
00:46:44,628 --> 00:46:47,497
and refusing yet again to
sign away all their property,
605
00:46:47,938 --> 00:46:50,808
on the 13th of April 1944,
606
00:46:50,838 --> 00:46:53,839
the Gutmanns were told
that they would be freed.
607
00:46:54,638 --> 00:46:56,250
It was the final insult.
608
00:46:57,948 --> 00:47:01,748
Fritz ended up at the "small
fortress," run directly by the gestapo.
609
00:47:49,932 --> 00:47:53,900
And I found the cell
that Fritz was locked up in,
610
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:57,210
for the last three
or four weeks of his life...
611
00:47:58,212 --> 00:48:00,011
And it had no window.
612
00:48:00,041 --> 00:48:02,880
It just had a little hole
at the bottom of the door,
613
00:48:02,910 --> 00:48:05,281
where they could slide
some stale bread and things.
614
00:48:05,551 --> 00:48:06,881
There was no light.
615
00:48:08,521 --> 00:48:11,190
And from what I can deduce...
616
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,731
The last day of April 1944,
the guards drag him out...
617
00:48:18,631 --> 00:48:22,501
And they were quite sadistic.
618
00:48:23,331 --> 00:48:27,472
They drag him through
this awful dank corridor,
619
00:48:27,502 --> 00:48:31,542
that follows inside the
old castle walls,
620
00:48:31,572 --> 00:48:34,241
which housed all these
prison cells.
621
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:38,182
And he was taken out by this...
622
00:48:38,752 --> 00:48:40,583
They call it the
"killing fields,"
623
00:48:40,623 --> 00:48:42,153
and he was strangled.
624
00:48:42,193 --> 00:48:45,252
By one report,
he was garroted with a wire,
625
00:48:45,723 --> 00:48:48,762
by the captors, the guards.
626
00:48:49,732 --> 00:48:52,433
And his body was thrown away.
627
00:48:52,463 --> 00:48:56,203
So he doesn't have a proper
burial, a grave site.
628
00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:58,773
His wife, my grandmother...
629
00:49:01,044 --> 00:49:05,412
Was also in a cell,
but she wasn't in solitary confinement.
630
00:49:06,212 --> 00:49:07,543
I don't know which is worse.
631
00:49:07,783 --> 00:49:11,483
She was crammed into the women's
cell in the next section,
632
00:49:11,513 --> 00:49:16,723
where about 40 women were
locked in a room half this size.
633
00:49:17,554 --> 00:49:19,894
And they were there
for about a month...
634
00:49:20,724 --> 00:49:23,223
Until they were put on a train
to Auschwitz,
635
00:49:23,263 --> 00:49:27,934
where she was killed
the day she arrived.
636
00:50:55,207 --> 00:50:59,127
They always say
that the Nazi past is history,
637
00:50:59,287 --> 00:51:01,327
that we must let it lie.
638
00:51:01,487 --> 00:51:05,848
But once again,
the Gurlitt case shows otherwise,
639
00:51:06,008 --> 00:51:11,006
that our present and our future is
conditioned by the Nazi past every time.
640
00:51:30,958 --> 00:51:32,828
In 2012,
641
00:51:32,868 --> 00:51:35,069
fifteen hundred works that
had vanished without a trace,
642
00:51:35,469 --> 00:51:38,940
reappeared in the Munich apartment
of an elderly gentleman...
643
00:51:39,769 --> 00:51:41,538
Cornelius Gurlitt.
644
00:51:42,538 --> 00:51:47,749
He was the son of Hildebrand Gurlitt,
faithful art dealer to the Fuhrer.
645
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:53,379
Masterpieces by Rodin,
Matisse, Monet, Renoir,
646
00:51:53,419 --> 00:51:56,659
Kandinsky, Klee and Dix
came back to life.
647
00:51:56,990 --> 00:51:59,930
It is the greatest rediscovery
of recent years.
648
00:52:00,330 --> 00:52:03,129
Now, for the first time,
two exhibitions
649
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:06,260
have put some of the works,
now restored, on display.
650
00:52:06,570 --> 00:52:10,231
It is often hard to establish
how and when these paintings,
651
00:52:10,271 --> 00:52:11,571
drawings and sculptures
652
00:52:11,941 --> 00:52:13,840
became part of the collection.
653
00:52:19,049 --> 00:52:21,610
It's about the provenance of the works
654
00:52:21,770 --> 00:52:24,810
the history, the biography of an artwork.
655
00:52:24,970 --> 00:52:30,611
Gaps are a risk, of course,
especially between 1933 and 1945,
656
00:52:30,771 --> 00:52:36,691
for then you wonder
how the work changed hands.
657
00:52:43,672 --> 00:52:46,802
On show at the Bundeskunsthalle
in Bonn
658
00:52:46,842 --> 00:52:50,111
are old-master prints,
seascapes and portraits
659
00:52:50,641 --> 00:52:54,610
all genres that are easy
to appreciate and to sell.
660
00:53:00,851 --> 00:53:04,413
Here in the Bundeskunsthalle in Bonn,
661
00:53:04,572 --> 00:53:08,931
we focus on works that could
have been stolen. There are suspect cases.
662
00:53:24,944 --> 00:53:27,311
In Bern, the city of bears,
663
00:53:27,351 --> 00:53:31,123
the Kunstmuseum
mainly exhibits works on paper.
664
00:53:35,613 --> 00:53:37,852
The works we see here in Bern
665
00:53:38,012 --> 00:53:42,333
were all legally owned
by Cornelius Gurlitt.
666
00:53:42,974 --> 00:53:46,373
The German state - the Nazis -
667
00:53:46,533 --> 00:53:49,934
had confiscated them
from their own museums.
668
00:53:50,093 --> 00:53:57,295
We are showing them in the context
of the Degenerate Art campaign.
669
00:54:00,215 --> 00:54:04,883
The Gurlitt affair has been
shrouded in mystery from the outset.
670
00:54:06,415 --> 00:54:10,655
We didn't know his name,
we didn't know exactly what he was called,
671
00:54:10,814 --> 00:54:13,464
and we didn't know where he lived,
as he wasn't registered anywhere,
672
00:54:13,494 --> 00:54:16,216
in any office, or in any document.
673
00:54:16,376 --> 00:54:20,174
Gurlitt was a person
who did not exist in Germany.
674
00:54:20,334 --> 00:54:22,215
He simply wasn't there.
675
00:54:29,215 --> 00:54:32,485
Cornelius Gurlitt ceased to be
a ghost
676
00:54:32,515 --> 00:54:34,786
one day in September 2010,
677
00:54:35,016 --> 00:54:36,926
on the Zurich-Munich train.
678
00:54:37,725 --> 00:54:39,724
In a random check,
679
00:54:39,754 --> 00:54:44,095
customs inspectors found 9,000 Euros
in 500-euro notes in his pocket.
680
00:54:44,125 --> 00:54:47,837
Suspicions were raised,
and his Munich home was searched.
681
00:54:47,867 --> 00:54:50,135
It was dirty and untidy.
682
00:54:52,275 --> 00:54:54,935
Gurlitt had lived
alone for years,
683
00:54:54,975 --> 00:54:57,646
kept company
by a huge wealth of paintings,
684
00:54:57,676 --> 00:55:02,715
officially lost in the bombing
of Dresden in February 1945.
685
00:55:04,816 --> 00:55:08,518
The bavarian authorities
decided not to reveal the find.
686
00:55:09,027 --> 00:55:12,186
But focus, a German
weekly, found out.
687
00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:14,996
After a year and a half
of checks and research,
688
00:55:15,026 --> 00:55:17,896
the paper was ready to break
the conspiracy of silence
689
00:55:17,926 --> 00:55:20,067
in November 2013.
690
00:55:20,097 --> 00:55:21,097
They published.
691
00:55:21,536 --> 00:55:22,767
The scoop caused a scandal.
692
00:55:22,807 --> 00:55:26,437
The state was forced
to confirm it was true.
693
00:55:28,777 --> 00:55:30,657
The works belonged to him,
694
00:55:30,818 --> 00:55:34,737
and the suspected
tax offences could be forgiven.
695
00:55:34,938 --> 00:55:38,137
The state knew it had found
a real treasure trove
696
00:55:38,297 --> 00:55:40,978
but couldn't really lay hands on it.
697
00:55:41,139 --> 00:55:47,418
It hoped to reach
some kind of deal with Gurlitt.
698
00:55:47,578 --> 00:55:53,978
Gurlitt was to agree to bequeath
the paintings to Bavaria after his death.
699
00:55:54,038 --> 00:55:55,769
Various ideas of restitution
700
00:55:55,809 --> 00:55:57,638
had been to restitute the Nazis.
701
00:55:57,839 --> 00:55:59,839
But not their victims.
702
00:55:59,879 --> 00:56:04,148
You know the Germans have done so much
to address the wrongs of the past.
703
00:56:04,777 --> 00:56:07,918
But the art is a field
that they've really...
704
00:56:08,379 --> 00:56:11,589
It's their achilles heel.
705
00:56:11,989 --> 00:56:14,158
You know they have
never quite dealt with it.
706
00:56:21,628 --> 00:56:26,628
The art hoard kept by Cornelius was
inherited from his father, Hildebrand,
707
00:56:26,999 --> 00:56:29,599
who, before becoming
one of Hitler's dealers,
708
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:33,740
was an art historian and
supporter of the modern painters,
709
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:37,980
especially the expressionists
and the "die bruecke group."
710
00:56:38,310 --> 00:56:41,249
That was enough to lose him
his job as a museum director
711
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,521
not once but twice.
712
00:56:43,890 --> 00:56:47,989
A quarter Jewish, he became an
accredited mediator with the Nazis
713
00:56:48,019 --> 00:56:49,661
when the racial laws
were issued,
714
00:56:50,060 --> 00:56:54,501
thus keeping himself and his
family clear of any persecution.
715
00:56:56,299 --> 00:57:00,570
Hildebrand Gurlitt
acquired works mainly in France,
716
00:57:00,770 --> 00:57:04,871
and in 1942 he became
director of the museum in Linz.
717
00:57:05,271 --> 00:57:10,011
He was stopped and questioned by
American soldiers in June 1945.
718
00:57:10,352 --> 00:57:11,481
He said.
719
00:57:13,221 --> 00:57:17,450
"I have never told anyone,
in Paris, about what I bought,
720
00:57:17,790 --> 00:57:21,721
because the art business
is generally very secretive."
721
00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:26,662
Gurlitt always used a broker
in all of his dealings,
722
00:57:26,702 --> 00:57:29,202
to avoid any direct
responsibility.
723
00:57:29,232 --> 00:57:30,232
He said.
724
00:57:31,232 --> 00:57:35,303
"In all, I have bought
about 200 paintings in France.
725
00:57:35,503 --> 00:57:38,071
My earnings have grown steadily,
726
00:57:38,571 --> 00:57:40,111
with the acquisitions in France,
727
00:57:40,141 --> 00:57:45,152
my income for 1943 reached
200,000 marks."
728
00:57:46,323 --> 00:57:51,692
That is the equivalent
of 720,000 Euros today.
729
00:58:05,902 --> 00:58:07,843
But what was interesting was,
730
00:58:07,873 --> 00:58:10,312
that when the Gurlitt collection
was found by the allies
731
00:58:10,742 --> 00:58:15,913
after the end of the war,
and they interrogated Hildebrand Gurlitt,
732
00:58:16,313 --> 00:58:17,714
and they said to him,
733
00:58:17,754 --> 00:58:22,083
"we've got a 148 paintings
we found of yours.
734
00:58:22,453 --> 00:58:23,583
Do you have any others?"
735
00:58:25,023 --> 00:58:28,724
And he said, "No, I had others,
but they were bombed and destroyed."
736
00:58:29,294 --> 00:58:33,164
But actually he had another
1,100 up the road,
737
00:58:33,204 --> 00:58:36,164
in the castle belonging to
friends of his in Bavaria,
738
00:58:36,204 --> 00:58:38,204
Hildebrand Gurlitt
can't have been the only one,
739
00:58:38,234 --> 00:58:41,203
who had 1,100 paintings
hidden somewhere else,
740
00:58:41,703 --> 00:58:43,143
and so they didn't exist.
741
00:58:44,374 --> 00:58:48,244
So the size of those collections have
not yet been properly established.
742
00:58:50,655 --> 00:58:54,385
Hildebrand continued
to work serenely as a dealer
743
00:58:54,425 --> 00:58:57,955
until his death
in a road accident in 1956.
744
00:59:00,825 --> 00:59:02,664
The paintings that he hid,
745
00:59:02,694 --> 00:59:05,295
and that would be found at the
home of his son, Cornelius,
746
00:59:05,665 --> 00:59:09,966
included femme assise,
a masterpiece by Matisse
747
00:59:10,206 --> 00:59:13,745
seized from parisian gallery
owner Paul Rosenberg.
748
00:59:15,046 --> 00:59:18,215
In fact femme assise did not
even have a stretcher on it.
749
00:59:18,245 --> 00:59:22,146
It was laid flat in a drawer...
750
00:59:22,786 --> 00:59:26,256
Amongst valuable works
of art in fruit.
751
00:59:26,286 --> 00:59:31,597
Some were kept in suitcases
amidst boxes of rotting food,
752
00:59:31,627 --> 00:59:33,297
in cabinets and cupboards.
753
00:59:33,327 --> 00:59:36,766
It was a horrendous way to live,
and a horrible way to store art.
754
00:59:39,036 --> 00:59:44,336
After the scoop in focus,
Paul Rosenberg's descendants realized
755
00:59:44,376 --> 00:59:48,177
that the family's Matisse was
among the confiscated works.
756
00:59:51,016 --> 00:59:53,617
The legal battle to
reclaim it began.
757
00:59:54,616 --> 00:59:59,957
They appointed an American lawyer
based in venice, Christopher Marinello,
758
00:59:59,987 --> 01:00:02,758
an expert in recovering
stolen artworks.
759
01:00:02,798 --> 01:00:04,957
After protracted negotiations,
760
01:00:05,327 --> 01:00:08,397
he reached an agreement
with Cornelius' lawyer.
761
01:00:08,967 --> 01:00:12,197
During that period,
a horrible thing happened.
762
01:00:12,237 --> 01:00:13,398
Mr. Gurlitt passed away.
763
01:00:14,008 --> 01:00:16,467
And then, it was a
complete disarray.
764
01:00:17,136 --> 01:00:19,177
We discovered of course
that there was a will.
765
01:00:19,207 --> 01:00:23,008
He was angry with the German
authorities for stopping him on a train,
766
01:00:23,048 --> 01:00:25,049
for seizing his assets,
for questioning him,
767
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:28,748
for disturbing his very
bizarre lifestyle.
768
01:00:29,188 --> 01:00:32,618
So he left everything
to the Kunstmuseum in Bern.
769
01:01:10,899 --> 01:01:13,260
Femme Assise
by Henri Matisse
770
01:01:13,770 --> 01:01:18,171
was one of the ill-starred works
exhibited at 21 Rue la Boetie,
771
01:01:18,739 --> 01:01:23,369
where Paul Rosenberg, a sophisticated
art dealer and Jewish collector,
772
01:01:23,740 --> 01:01:26,641
had opened his gallery in 1910.
773
01:01:28,810 --> 01:01:30,950
His heirs were among the first
774
01:01:30,980 --> 01:01:35,351
to raise the taboo topic of restitution
in the international courts.
775
01:01:36,220 --> 01:01:39,859
Almost 80 years on,
his granddaughter Anne Sinclair
776
01:01:39,889 --> 01:01:42,431
succeeded in paying tribute
to her grandfather
777
01:01:42,461 --> 01:01:46,461
with an exhibition in Paris,
which was named after that street.
778
01:01:46,901 --> 01:01:49,402
There were 70 modern
art masterpieces,
779
01:01:49,442 --> 01:01:54,710
from Picasso and Leger to
Braque, Matisse and Laurencin.
780
01:01:58,281 --> 01:02:00,510
In the early years of
the 20th century,
781
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:03,652
Rosenberg collected
the most innovative painters.
782
01:02:04,052 --> 01:02:06,252
He was friends with
Braque, Matisse,
783
01:02:06,292 --> 01:02:10,393
and especially Picasso,
whom he called, simply, "pic."
784
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,492
The two were neighbors
in Paris,
785
01:02:13,762 --> 01:02:17,031
they talked of pictures, payments and
commissions from the kitchen window.
786
01:02:18,262 --> 01:02:22,032
Picasso lived at number
23, Rue la Boetie.
787
01:02:22,772 --> 01:02:24,943
From 1932 until the war,
788
01:02:25,142 --> 01:02:27,943
the only agent
to represent him was Rosenberg.
789
01:02:28,712 --> 01:02:31,113
His gallery was furnished
like a lounge.
790
01:02:31,781 --> 01:02:33,781
The avant-garde artists
on the first floor,
791
01:02:34,111 --> 01:02:38,823
the established masters, romantic
painters and impressionists on the second.
792
01:03:09,884 --> 01:03:12,625
Paul loved paintings like people,
793
01:03:13,224 --> 01:03:17,294
he documented their form and
genealogy on dedicated index cards,
794
01:03:17,694 --> 01:03:20,025
he had them photographed
one by one.
795
01:03:24,534 --> 01:03:29,374
And so they appear today,
impressions on old glass plates.
796
01:03:29,804 --> 01:03:33,675
Black and white,
dusty and as fragile as memory.
797
01:03:35,574 --> 01:03:37,645
This is the Rosenberg fund,
798
01:03:38,115 --> 01:03:41,555
donated by his heirs
to the French culture ministry.
799
01:03:54,536 --> 01:03:58,435
When the Germans entered Paris
on the 14th of June 1940,
800
01:03:58,635 --> 01:04:02,805
Paul Rosenberg was fleeing to
Spain with his wife and daughter.
801
01:04:03,647 --> 01:04:09,176
On the 17th, they boarded a Polish ship,
"the batory", which took them to America.
802
01:04:09,717 --> 01:04:13,445
A few days later, Hitler,
accompanied by architect Albert Speer,
803
01:04:13,886 --> 01:04:16,487
and the regime's favorite
sculptor, Arno Breker...
804
01:04:17,285 --> 01:04:20,797
Visited the freshly conquered
capital like luxury tourists.
805
01:04:21,326 --> 01:04:23,896
Paris was deserted.
806
01:04:31,137 --> 01:04:32,707
La Madeleine...
807
01:04:34,877 --> 01:04:36,607
Place de la Concorde...
808
01:04:41,617 --> 01:04:43,148
Arc de Triomphe de l'Etoile.
809
01:04:44,747 --> 01:04:46,718
A view of the Eifel tower.
810
01:04:47,419 --> 01:04:49,717
Professor Speer is to
the Fuhrer's left.
811
01:05:13,118 --> 01:05:17,919
France's cultural heritage was
already being monitored from 1937.
812
01:05:18,790 --> 01:05:23,119
Paris, for the Nazis the ultimate
city of culture and good living,
813
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:25,658
was the key battleground
for art.
814
01:05:29,229 --> 01:05:32,298
The ERR,
the Nazi intelligence organization
815
01:05:32,328 --> 01:05:35,939
that appropriated property
and led the looting of France,
816
01:05:35,969 --> 01:05:41,109
was run by Alfred Rosenberg - no
relation to the parisian gallery owner.
817
01:05:45,849 --> 01:05:48,049
It operated alongside the ss
818
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:50,950
in all countries
occupied by the German army.
819
01:05:51,650 --> 01:05:55,991
It requisitioned books,
artwork, and political material.
820
01:05:56,021 --> 01:06:00,330
The texts were used by the institute
for study of the Jewish question,
821
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,499
founded by Rosenberg in
Frankfurt in 1940.
822
01:06:03,529 --> 01:06:06,800
The aim was to ideologize
anti-semitism
823
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,072
and to prove the inferiority
of the Jewish race.
824
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,721
There were dozens,
hundreds of art historians,
825
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,560
specialists and antiquarians.
The finest. This is awful.
826
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,602
Those who worked
for the Nazis were the best...
827
01:06:22,761 --> 01:06:24,240
they all worked for the ERR.
828
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,241
up to 2,000 people, in the end.
829
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,561
The paintings now recovered
830
01:06:36,601 --> 01:06:39,971
after being stolen by the ERR
from Paul Rosenberg's collection
831
01:06:40,001 --> 01:06:44,141
also include baigneur
et baigneuses by Picasso
832
01:06:44,171 --> 01:06:48,082
and Profil Bleu Devant la
Cheminee by Matisse.
833
01:06:53,282 --> 01:07:01,042
Everything was seized.
Sometimes, the outcome was oddly ironic.
834
01:07:01,202 --> 01:07:02,923
the Rosenberg gallery, for example,
835
01:07:03,083 --> 01:07:07,923
was requisitioned as the Institute
for Study of the Jewish Questions.
836
01:07:08,083 --> 01:07:10,403
As you can imagine,
it was not an academic
837
01:07:10,562 --> 01:07:13,283
but a racial,
racist undertaking.
838
01:07:15,302 --> 01:07:17,803
At 21 Rue la Boetie,
839
01:07:17,843 --> 01:07:19,973
in place of the Matisses
and Picassos
840
01:07:20,013 --> 01:07:23,844
appeared the poster promoting
the exhibition "Jews and France,"
841
01:07:23,884 --> 01:07:27,952
which opened on the 5th of September
1941 at the Palais Berlitz.
842
01:07:27,982 --> 01:07:32,893
It invited spectators to recognize the
physical traits of the "Jewish enemy,"
843
01:07:32,923 --> 01:07:35,064
described as a vampire
with a long beard,
844
01:07:35,094 --> 01:07:37,863
fleshy lips, and
an aquiline nose,
845
01:07:37,893 --> 01:07:40,434
who was corrupting
the French institutions,
846
01:07:40,464 --> 01:07:42,104
and every field of culture.
847
01:07:43,833 --> 01:07:48,073
Meanwhile, Paul Rosenberg had
opened a new gallery in New York,
848
01:07:48,503 --> 01:07:50,744
and was working with
what would become
849
01:07:50,774 --> 01:07:55,085
the most important contemporary art
museum of the 20th century. Moma.
850
01:08:00,385 --> 01:08:04,924
The fact that so many people had
to flee Germany, France and Europe,
851
01:08:05,395 --> 01:08:08,264
and so many paintings
came to the United States,
852
01:08:08,664 --> 01:08:13,165
definitely influenced
the migration of art,
853
01:08:13,205 --> 01:08:15,766
and the center of the
modern art market,
854
01:08:15,806 --> 01:08:19,204
and the modern art world
from Paris to New York.
855
01:08:20,745 --> 01:08:22,845
In 1942,
856
01:08:22,875 --> 01:08:26,716
Paul Rosenberg had an exhibition
in New York on Vincent van Gogh.
857
01:08:28,416 --> 01:08:31,115
It included the portrait
of Dr Gachet.
858
01:08:31,386 --> 01:08:35,386
The painting had been confiscated
in 1938 at Goering's behest
859
01:08:35,655 --> 01:08:39,925
from the Staedl museum in Frankfurt
and sold to a German banker.
860
01:08:40,965 --> 01:08:45,166
The work was resold and came
to America in the early 1940s.
861
01:08:47,567 --> 01:08:51,306
The story has been pieced
together by Cynthia Saltzman,
862
01:08:51,336 --> 01:08:52,907
a scholar of the Dutch painter.
863
01:08:53,176 --> 01:08:55,546
Many modern-art masterpieces
reached America
864
01:08:55,576 --> 01:08:59,147
through auctions in
Switzerland, as she explains.
865
01:09:01,046 --> 01:09:05,817
On June 1939,
they had the fischer auction...
866
01:09:06,456 --> 01:09:07,587
In Luzern,
867
01:09:07,988 --> 01:09:10,756
that was advertised in art news
in the United States.
868
01:09:10,796 --> 01:09:15,497
And Americans had people bidding
at the auctions.
869
01:09:15,767 --> 01:09:17,427
The art world was
conscious of it,
870
01:09:17,467 --> 01:09:20,897
except for people who I think
just wanted not to know.
871
01:09:22,407 --> 01:09:27,308
In lot 49, for example,
is a self-portrait by Van Gogh.
872
01:09:28,147 --> 01:09:32,577
The Van Gogh self-portrait
that he painted for Gauguin
873
01:09:32,617 --> 01:09:34,948
in October 1888,
874
01:09:34,988 --> 01:09:38,118
it made the highest price there,
175,000 Swiss francs.
875
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:46,458
The painting is now in Boston,
in the fogg art museum at Harvard.
876
01:10:21,098 --> 01:10:22,969
The Nazi occupation
877
01:10:22,999 --> 01:10:26,139
had often unexpected effects
on Europe's art heritage.
878
01:10:29,070 --> 01:10:31,740
The walls of a house
in the Boston countryside
879
01:10:32,041 --> 01:10:34,241
hang with priceless paintings...
880
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,950
Including a flemish altarpiece...
881
01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:40,880
And 17th-century works
by Sebastiano Ricci,
882
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,921
Alessandro Longhi and
Alessandro Magnasco.
883
01:10:49,491 --> 01:10:52,601
The owners are Tom Selldorff
and his wife.
884
01:10:53,332 --> 01:10:55,532
He is the grandson
of Richard Neumann,
885
01:10:55,570 --> 01:10:59,541
a textile industrialist and
Jewish collector from Vienna.
886
01:11:03,281 --> 01:11:06,211
Tom proudly shows his
pictures of his grandfather,
887
01:11:06,241 --> 01:11:08,781
who fought for the kaiser
in World War I,
888
01:11:09,112 --> 01:11:11,752
and was then betrayed
by his own country.
889
01:11:15,922 --> 01:11:17,821
When the Nazis annexed Austria...
890
01:11:18,461 --> 01:11:22,931
Neumann left many of his paintings
behind and went to Paris.
891
01:11:24,463 --> 01:11:28,002
Then he was able to leave
Austria with 38 paintings.
892
01:11:28,432 --> 01:11:31,102
And so those are the paintings,
which wound up in the louvre,
893
01:11:31,301 --> 01:11:37,043
and others have just disappeared
in the fog of post war.
894
01:11:37,911 --> 01:11:39,941
One reason we were able
to recover them,
895
01:11:40,383 --> 01:11:44,253
was that the custom's declaration
listed all these paintings.
896
01:11:44,283 --> 01:11:49,292
So they were clearly identified
as having belonged to him,
897
01:11:49,791 --> 01:11:52,993
at the time he left
Vienna for Paris.
898
01:11:56,964 --> 01:12:01,133
Many of his paintings
were channeled via the ERR
899
01:12:01,504 --> 01:12:05,304
to the collections of the future
Fuhrer's museum in Linz...
900
01:12:05,943 --> 01:12:09,543
Or to Goering's residence,
Carinhall.
901
01:12:11,283 --> 01:12:14,484
A period photo shows
the deputy leader of the reich
902
01:12:14,514 --> 01:12:18,984
examining two matisses seized
from gallery owner Paul Rosenberg.
903
01:12:19,324 --> 01:12:23,824
Alongside Goering
is dealer Walter Andreas Hofer.
904
01:12:24,094 --> 01:12:28,595
Holding the paintings is Bruno
Lohse, critic and art dealer.
905
01:12:29,194 --> 01:12:32,965
The photo was taken in 1941
at the Jeu de Paume.
906
01:12:34,375 --> 01:12:37,534
The parisian museum was used
to house the sequestered Booty.
907
01:12:37,574 --> 01:12:41,174
Goering often went there
to choose the best pieces.
908
01:12:42,173 --> 01:12:47,215
Another dealer, Gustav Rochlitz,
told under interrogation
909
01:12:47,255 --> 01:12:50,786
how Goering wanted to buy from
him for a staggeringly low price
910
01:12:50,826 --> 01:12:55,456
a portrait by Titian
and a still life by Jan Weenix.
911
01:12:55,995 --> 01:12:58,264
Bruno Lohse, Goering's man,
912
01:12:58,524 --> 01:13:03,295
forced Rochlitz to accept an exchange
with works of degenerate art.
913
01:13:03,335 --> 01:13:05,236
These are his words.
914
01:13:15,316 --> 01:13:19,015
"You must exchange the pictures.
That's what Goering wants,
915
01:13:19,045 --> 01:13:22,516
and when he gives an order,
it must be executed,
916
01:13:23,085 --> 01:13:25,156
or you will pay the price."
917
01:13:32,097 --> 01:13:35,365
The err hierarchy
regularly sent Hitler
918
01:13:35,395 --> 01:13:38,867
leather-bound albums with
photos of the stolen objects...
919
01:13:40,106 --> 01:13:44,106
Many belonging to the French
arm of the rothschild family.
920
01:13:45,876 --> 01:13:48,317
They would be submitted
at the nuremberg trial
921
01:13:48,347 --> 01:13:51,247
as evidence of what
the ERR had done.
922
01:13:53,048 --> 01:13:56,757
These 39 volumes,
which are before me,
923
01:13:57,388 --> 01:14:02,158
contain photographs of works of
art, secured by the "Einsatzstab,"
924
01:14:02,828 --> 01:14:08,367
and are volumes, which were prepared
by members of the Rosenberg Stab.
925
01:14:08,867 --> 01:14:11,607
And I offer them in evidence.
926
01:14:57,249 --> 01:14:59,149
The aisles of the Bergkerk,
927
01:14:59,550 --> 01:15:02,489
the medieval church of Deventer
in Holland,
928
01:15:02,789 --> 01:15:05,360
hosted an exhibition
of 75 paintings,
929
01:15:05,390 --> 01:15:07,890
that had been earmarked
for the Fuhrer's museum
930
01:15:07,930 --> 01:15:09,399
and Goering's collection.
931
01:15:15,601 --> 01:15:19,509
Hitler would receive the
16th- and 17th-century works,
932
01:15:20,079 --> 01:15:21,780
paintings of flemish
families and couples,
933
01:15:22,311 --> 01:15:25,250
still lives with animals,
books and fruit,
934
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:27,981
bucolic scenes and
Dutch landscapes.
935
01:15:28,281 --> 01:15:31,651
The Reichsmarschall would get
the hunting scenes and nudes,
936
01:15:31,691 --> 01:15:33,991
the venuses, the three graces.
937
01:15:45,072 --> 01:15:49,801
Art historian Eva Kleeman
and her husband Daaf Ledeboer
938
01:15:50,071 --> 01:15:54,881
curated the exhibition after extensive
study of the Dutch art archives.
939
01:15:56,011 --> 01:15:58,142
They realized that while
part of the paintings
940
01:15:58,182 --> 01:16:00,711
had been returned
to their rightful owners,
941
01:16:00,921 --> 01:16:04,023
many others were still
in museums and galleries.
942
01:16:13,832 --> 01:16:17,602
The exhibition also presented
thousands of police reports
943
01:16:17,632 --> 01:16:19,373
compiled straight
after the war,
944
01:16:19,633 --> 01:16:23,643
including the list of items
reported missing by the victims.
945
01:16:26,213 --> 01:16:30,844
Difficult is, when people want
to reclaim their own goods,
946
01:16:31,253 --> 01:16:34,683
they had to provide
ridiculous proofs.
947
01:16:34,723 --> 01:16:37,154
"Can you prove?
Do you have a ticket that you bought it?"
948
01:16:37,853 --> 01:16:40,394
"Do you have a photograph
that you can show it on?"
949
01:16:40,664 --> 01:16:42,493
People coming back
from the camps.
950
01:16:42,523 --> 01:16:45,164
Ridiculous questionings,
but it was done.
951
01:16:46,733 --> 01:16:50,764
The exhibition included Christ
and the adulteress by Vermeer.
952
01:16:51,434 --> 01:16:54,773
Goering had yearned
for one of his works for years.
953
01:16:55,675 --> 01:17:00,144
He bought it for himself in
1942 through his usual dealers,
954
01:17:00,184 --> 01:17:02,785
Alois Miedl and Walter Hofer.
955
01:17:03,713 --> 01:17:06,714
Unfortunately, it was a forgery.
956
01:17:07,284 --> 01:17:09,654
He was very happy to acquire it.
957
01:17:10,494 --> 01:17:14,864
However, it was forged.
It was made by Han Van Meegeren
958
01:17:15,164 --> 01:17:18,496
from the city of deventer,
which is where we are now.
959
01:17:19,435 --> 01:17:23,465
He managed to forge it
by using a particular technique.
960
01:17:23,505 --> 01:17:25,174
He used bakelite.
961
01:17:25,874 --> 01:17:28,906
He mixed pigments with bakelite,
and he baked it off.
962
01:17:29,245 --> 01:17:33,916
And he used an actual
17th century painting,
963
01:17:33,946 --> 01:17:35,685
he stripped the paint off.
964
01:17:36,115 --> 01:17:40,455
There was a lot of craquelure
he got by baking it off.
965
01:17:40,655 --> 01:17:42,786
And then he put ink
in the crackles.
966
01:17:42,826 --> 01:17:44,856
It was exactly the colors
that Vermeer used,
967
01:17:44,895 --> 01:17:47,095
the yellow of Vermeer,
the blue of Vermeer.
968
01:17:47,465 --> 01:17:52,737
And to every art historian in Holland,
it seemed like this was the real Vermeer.
969
01:17:56,935 --> 01:18:00,776
Van Meegeren was one of
the most skillful forgers
970
01:18:00,806 --> 01:18:02,576
of the 20th century.
971
01:18:03,577 --> 01:18:05,217
After the war,
972
01:18:05,247 --> 01:18:07,346
he was accused of
collaborating with the Nazis,
973
01:18:07,386 --> 01:18:08,947
and risked the death penalty.
974
01:18:09,587 --> 01:18:12,986
In his defense, he confessed
to making the forgery.
975
01:18:13,456 --> 01:18:16,926
The court did not believe him
and made him paint a new work,
976
01:18:16,956 --> 01:18:18,496
under close supervision.
977
01:18:18,726 --> 01:18:22,267
Thus he proved that he really
had painted the Vermeer
978
01:18:22,297 --> 01:18:23,897
that had fooled Goering.
979
01:18:25,768 --> 01:18:28,067
He got away with a
minor conviction,
980
01:18:28,367 --> 01:18:29,808
and for duping the Nazis,
981
01:18:30,308 --> 01:18:32,607
he even became a national hero.
982
01:18:35,478 --> 01:18:38,447
Goering sold many of his works
983
01:18:38,477 --> 01:18:44,788
to amass more than 1.5 million
guilders of that period,
984
01:18:44,818 --> 01:18:47,289
and to buy this forgery.
985
01:18:47,789 --> 01:18:52,328
And before he died,
he was told that it was a forgery.
986
01:18:52,358 --> 01:18:55,528
So he was quite unhappy,
of course, at that point.
987
01:18:59,838 --> 01:19:03,009
Many of the paintings in
the exhibitions in Paris,
988
01:19:03,039 --> 01:19:05,179
Bern, Bonn and deventer...
989
01:19:05,838 --> 01:19:10,447
Have an often difficult and
painful restitution story to tell.
990
01:19:11,749 --> 01:19:14,149
Tracing an artwork entails
identifying it,
991
01:19:14,488 --> 01:19:17,150
discovering whose hands
it has passed through,
992
01:19:17,820 --> 01:19:22,130
whether the title or artist's name
has been changed to cover its tracks,
993
01:19:22,660 --> 01:19:26,699
and whether it is in a museum
or about to be auctioned off.
994
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,440
With museums,
there is a balance to be struck
995
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:35,810
between public interest
and personal claims.
996
01:19:38,311 --> 01:19:42,349
As Anne Webber well knows,
she and her staff in London
997
01:19:42,749 --> 01:19:46,980
have been on the trail of missing
artwork since the early 1990s.
998
01:19:48,020 --> 01:19:49,850
Often they say that these works
of art
999
01:19:49,890 --> 01:19:53,160
are better in public collections
than in private collection,
1000
01:19:53,190 --> 01:19:57,989
I think obviously there's a point
that museums are there to keep,
1001
01:19:58,029 --> 01:20:00,731
to look after the art,
not to give it away, but,
1002
01:20:01,031 --> 01:20:05,201
museums are also repositories
of our values,
1003
01:20:05,501 --> 01:20:07,071
of our values of societies.
1004
01:20:07,411 --> 01:20:10,312
And our societies don't
believe in theft,
1005
01:20:10,341 --> 01:20:15,152
and theft when it is associated
with murder as this was.
1006
01:20:16,381 --> 01:20:20,721
In Paris, Elizabeth royer,
an art expert and gallery owner,
1007
01:20:20,751 --> 01:20:25,622
began investigating the provenance of
the missing works in the mid 1990s.
1008
01:20:27,672 --> 01:20:31,312
Some say it's only about money. It's not.
1009
01:20:31,472 --> 01:20:38,912
Some heirs do it for the money,
but most don't.
1010
01:20:39,072 --> 01:20:41,832
A young woman came to see me.
1011
01:20:41,993 --> 01:20:44,632
She told me her family
had been robbed
1012
01:20:44,792 --> 01:20:47,553
with the Mobel Aktion
(the Furniture campaign),
1013
01:20:47,752 --> 01:20:50,273
there were very few artworks.
1014
01:20:50,432 --> 01:20:56,391
three paintings and a drawing,
nothing very important.
1015
01:20:56,673 --> 01:21:01,393
But her father had spent his whole life
and everything he had
1016
01:21:01,553 --> 01:21:03,954
in the hope of seeing
one of them again.
1017
01:21:16,113 --> 01:21:18,544
Many stories
have not been heard.
1018
01:21:18,943 --> 01:21:21,914
Many people have preferred
to forget
1019
01:21:22,484 --> 01:21:24,085
to resume their lives,
1020
01:21:24,125 --> 01:21:27,653
almost to blank out the horrors
and wrongs of the past.
1021
01:21:29,193 --> 01:21:32,664
For over 80 years,
Edgar Feuchtwanger,
1022
01:21:32,694 --> 01:21:34,625
whom we met at the start
of this story,
1023
01:21:34,665 --> 01:21:38,164
never spoke of the man who lived
in the block opposite in Munich.
1024
01:21:42,335 --> 01:21:46,204
When Hitler became leader
of the third reich in 1933,
1025
01:21:46,245 --> 01:21:51,075
Edgar's desk mate at school stopped
speaking to him, because he was a Jew.
1026
01:21:51,315 --> 01:21:52,515
In the evening,
1027
01:21:54,114 --> 01:21:56,686
his mother signed his homework
in his exercise books, red-eyed.
1028
01:21:57,685 --> 01:22:01,055
I was told,
"Do what the teacher tells you."
1029
01:22:01,095 --> 01:22:06,495
And she straight away put out
all this Nazi stuff.
1030
01:22:06,525 --> 01:22:09,635
This is the most
striking picture.
1031
01:22:10,665 --> 01:22:13,636
Normally, on labor day.
1032
01:22:13,666 --> 01:22:17,507
This was labor day, 1933.
1033
01:22:17,707 --> 01:22:19,875
One would have hammer
and sickle...
1034
01:22:20,675 --> 01:22:23,646
And here we have hammer
and swastika.
1035
01:22:23,676 --> 01:22:27,316
And I used to draw it
with my own hand.
1036
01:22:27,516 --> 01:22:31,716
I was told to do what my
teacher told me, so I did.
1037
01:22:37,596 --> 01:22:42,867
In November 1938, the gestapo
knocked on the Feuchtwangers' door.
1038
01:22:43,696 --> 01:22:48,578
Furniture and books were seized.
His father was taken to Dachau.
1039
01:22:51,107 --> 01:22:55,617
Edgar played the piano with the soft
pedal every afternoon after school,
1040
01:22:55,647 --> 01:22:59,418
until his father
returned home a month later,
1041
01:22:59,448 --> 01:23:01,817
in a sorry state, but alive.
1042
01:23:13,668 --> 01:23:19,068
The Feuchtwangers soon sent Edgar
away, before joining him in England.
1043
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:44,399
Rarely in the history of our people
has there been a time of peace
1044
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,879
so fervent as these 5 and a half years,
1045
01:23:49,599 --> 01:23:53,159
which from that memorable day
of 30 January 1933
1046
01:23:53,319 --> 01:23:55,360
have inaugurated the era
1047
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:59,180
of National Socialist
government for our people.
1048
01:23:59,250 --> 01:24:01,351
Hitler,
Edgar's neighbor...
1049
01:24:02,180 --> 01:24:05,248
Opened the first three
great German art exhibitions,
1050
01:24:05,288 --> 01:24:09,760
held every year from 1937
to 1944, with a speech.
1051
01:24:12,630 --> 01:24:17,060
He waxed lyrical about the Aryan art
"of the sublime and the beautiful,
1052
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:19,430
a vehicle of the natural
and the healthy."
1053
01:24:19,770 --> 01:24:24,370
He declared war on the artists guilty
of the country's cultural disintegration
1054
01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:28,641
and railed against cultural
bolshevism and the Jewish dealers.
1055
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,761
The cultural programme
of the new Reich
1056
01:24:31,921 --> 01:24:35,800
is of a magnificence
without precedent in our history.
1057
01:24:36,852 --> 01:24:39,151
Many in the art world
followed him.
1058
01:24:39,690 --> 01:24:43,621
Historians, intellectuals and
academics made a pact with the devil
1059
01:24:43,661 --> 01:24:47,631
and opted to serve the Nazi regime
and the great looting of Europe.
1060
01:24:48,361 --> 01:24:51,632
All the art dealers whom
we have mentioned in this story,
1061
01:24:51,671 --> 01:24:54,972
returned after the war to
resume their former profession,
1062
01:24:55,501 --> 01:24:57,371
as if nothing had happened.
1063
01:24:57,941 --> 01:25:00,841
Timothy Garton Ash
has made an extensive study
1064
01:25:00,881 --> 01:25:02,981
of how people act
in a dictatorship.
1065
01:25:03,282 --> 01:25:08,512
I did not find a single,
truly evil person.
1066
01:25:09,382 --> 01:25:11,652
I found people like you and me,
1067
01:25:11,692 --> 01:25:13,752
weak human, all too human.
1068
01:25:14,363 --> 01:25:16,023
But I found a big evil.
1069
01:25:16,791 --> 01:25:19,292
So it's a way in which
an evil regime
1070
01:25:19,332 --> 01:25:22,862
can exploit and manipulate
all our weaknesses,
1071
01:25:23,432 --> 01:25:27,002
to build what was essentially
a kind of orwellian regime.
1072
01:25:27,272 --> 01:25:29,843
The head of the labor movement
of the Nazis said,
1073
01:25:29,873 --> 01:25:33,342
"the only time when someone
is a private individual,
1074
01:25:33,372 --> 01:25:34,614
is when they are asleep."
1075
01:25:35,213 --> 01:25:39,452
So a Mark of a totalitarian
regime is. Every area of life,
1076
01:25:39,883 --> 01:25:44,053
every area of art has to be controlled
because they're all dangerous.
1077
01:25:44,093 --> 01:25:45,095
And they are.
1078
01:26:13,354 --> 01:26:15,984
Art is often a key...
1079
01:26:17,155 --> 01:26:18,326
A trojan horse...
1080
01:26:19,254 --> 01:26:23,364
A brush that helps to portray
and to erase dictatorships.
1081
01:26:24,234 --> 01:26:27,495
Its power is immense
yet contradictory.
1082
01:26:27,835 --> 01:26:30,735
Art can be a means and an end...
1083
01:26:31,374 --> 01:26:32,836
It can Redeem and Condemn.
1084
01:26:33,435 --> 01:26:36,475
Be a tool of subversion
and a vehicle for consensus,
1085
01:26:36,505 --> 01:26:40,114
an expression of freedom
and the face of totalitarianism.
1086
01:26:40,374 --> 01:26:42,084
In Nazi-despoiled Europe...
1087
01:26:42,845 --> 01:26:45,715
Many Jewish families
saved themselves
1088
01:26:45,755 --> 01:26:51,486
by selling their entire collections for
an exit visa that meant staying alive.
1089
01:26:52,625 --> 01:26:57,296
Millions of others were exterminated
in the concentration camps.
1090
01:26:58,996 --> 01:27:00,996
One day, while all
this was happening,
1091
01:27:01,505 --> 01:27:05,106
a gestapo official was visiting
Picasso's studio in Paris.
1092
01:27:05,436 --> 01:27:06,976
The painter told the story
1093
01:27:07,006 --> 01:27:10,547
on the 24th of march 1945
to journalist Simone tery.
1094
01:27:11,247 --> 01:27:14,847
On the table was a postcard
of his painting, Guernica.
1095
01:27:15,346 --> 01:27:18,387
The officer asked,
"did you do this, maestro?"
1096
01:27:18,886 --> 01:27:21,087
"No," replied Picasso,
1097
01:27:21,627 --> 01:27:23,786
"this is your work."
1098
01:27:25,357 --> 01:27:29,267
Later in the interview,
he said to tery,
1099
01:27:29,897 --> 01:27:31,628
"what do you think an artist is?
1100
01:27:32,238 --> 01:27:35,037
An imbecile who has only his
eyes if he's a painter,
1101
01:27:35,307 --> 01:27:39,277
or ears if he's a musician,
or if he's a boxer, just his muscles?
1102
01:27:40,678 --> 01:27:44,677
An artist is a political being,
alive to the heart-breaking,
1103
01:27:44,717 --> 01:27:47,918
passionate or happy
events of the world.
1104
01:27:48,748 --> 01:27:51,088
How can one be indifferent
to other people?
1105
01:27:51,688 --> 01:27:53,987
Painting is not done
to decorate apartments.
1106
01:27:54,257 --> 01:27:58,088
It is an instrument of war
for attack and defense
1107
01:27:58,828 --> 01:28:00,098
against the enemy."
96152
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