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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,119 --> 00:00:07,000 You're watching HLN On Demand. 2 00:00:24,020 --> 00:00:26,040 My father was my best friend. 3 00:00:26,540 --> 00:00:28,340 He was the best friend I ever had. 4 00:00:29,540 --> 00:00:31,860 My mother and me, we were very, very close. 5 00:00:32,590 --> 00:00:34,650 Me and my two sisters, we got along excellent. 6 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:40,310 My two younger brothers, Mark and John, we were really a close family, you know. 7 00:00:41,610 --> 00:00:44,090 It was a tragedy. I lost every one of my old family. 8 00:01:16,620 --> 00:01:18,340 Welcome to Very Scary People. 9 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:19,800 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 10 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:26,460 In November of 1974, the quiet seaside town of Amityville, New York, became 11 00:01:26,460 --> 00:01:31,620 known the world over for a crime so horrific it inspired a Hollywood horror 12 00:01:31,620 --> 00:01:32,620 franchise. 13 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:38,100 Six members of one family were murdered, shot to death in their own home, lying 14 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:39,100 in their own beds. 15 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:43,500 Only one family member lived to tell the story of what happened that night at 16 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:44,680 112 Ocean Avenue. 17 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,340 This is part one of the Amityville Horror. 18 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,460 Amityville is an old town, and it has tradition. 19 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,300 There was this very congenial feeling. 20 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,360 It sounds so cliche, but it is like the quintessential small town. 21 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,200 The center of the town has the gazebo where they have Fourth of July, 22 00:02:16,260 --> 00:02:18,800 and Christmas celebrations with carols. 23 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:22,280 Then you're by the water, the Great South Bay. 24 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:28,520 When I was young, I used to spend my summers in Amityville. It was named 25 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,440 in Latin means happy. It's a happy place. 26 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Amityville was just another town until the murders happened. 27 00:02:37,580 --> 00:02:40,850 Inspired. one of the greatest horror stories of all time. 28 00:02:54,170 --> 00:03:00,050 It was in the middle of the night, pitch black, at the DeFeo household, 112 29 00:03:00,050 --> 00:03:01,050 Ocean Avenue. 30 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:07,910 The family's old English sheepdog, Shaggy. 31 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:09,270 with howling. 32 00:03:11,130 --> 00:03:14,970 It's very odd and quite chilling. 33 00:03:16,850 --> 00:03:19,410 And that's the way the story began. 34 00:03:25,370 --> 00:03:31,350 Ronald DeFeo Jr., his nickname was Butch. Butch DeFeo said that he had been 35 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:36,010 trying to get in touch with his family throughout the day, and he went home. 36 00:03:36,730 --> 00:03:40,610 had to break a window to get in because he had forgotten his house key. 37 00:03:41,410 --> 00:03:45,650 I couldn't get in the house, so I went through the back window and went through 38 00:03:45,650 --> 00:03:46,650 the house. 39 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:48,730 And I said, what's going on here? 40 00:03:50,610 --> 00:03:55,210 It was dark in the house, and he went right to his parents' room. 41 00:03:56,270 --> 00:04:00,530 When Ronnie entered his parents' room, he made a horrific discovery. 42 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:01,950 It was like a nightmare. 43 00:04:02,790 --> 00:04:04,790 He found them lying in bed. 44 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:07,130 Shot execution style. 45 00:04:07,370 --> 00:04:09,850 This is my car. I got scared. I ran out of the house. 46 00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:14,230 And he drove very fast down the street to Henry's bar. 47 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:17,350 He opened the door and he was screaming, come on, help me. Somebody shot my 48 00:04:17,350 --> 00:04:18,350 mother and father. 49 00:04:18,490 --> 00:04:19,649 Everyone ran out of the bar. 50 00:04:19,850 --> 00:04:24,810 It definitely broke the sleepiness of Amityville. Something you just would 51 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:26,390 imagine in that quaint town. 52 00:04:27,030 --> 00:04:28,330 A friend called 911. 53 00:04:28,910 --> 00:04:31,850 The local Amityville police were the first on the scene. 54 00:04:32,410 --> 00:04:36,130 There, they found something even more unthinkable. 55 00:04:36,430 --> 00:04:43,310 And the tragedy that unfolded that night is absolutely shocking. We heard it was 56 00:04:43,310 --> 00:04:49,110 maybe a double homicide, but there was one or two local cops from Amityville 57 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:55,450 that tipped me that this thing is a lot worse than you guys think it is. 58 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:57,910 I proceeded to check out the house. 59 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,800 and I found Mr. DeFeo Sr. 60 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:04,640 and Mrs. DeFeo laying in bed with gunshot wounds to the back. 61 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,640 I then checked the northeast bedroom, and I found two young boys lying in 62 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,440 separate beds with gunshot wounds to the back. 63 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,940 Then I checked the southeast bedroom, and I found a young girl with a gunshot 64 00:05:19,940 --> 00:05:22,860 wound to the rear of her neck and head area. 65 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:26,120 I proceeded to the third floor of the house. 66 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,360 And on the east side bedroom, found another young lady with a gunshot wound 67 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,360 the head. 68 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,660 This was a multiple murder. 69 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,540 Six bodies, six victims. 70 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:42,520 And then we found out it was the DeFeo family. 71 00:05:42,780 --> 00:05:44,460 The father, the mother. 72 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:46,320 Dawn was 18. 73 00:05:47,140 --> 00:05:48,820 Allison was 13. 74 00:05:49,820 --> 00:05:51,140 Mark was 11. 75 00:05:51,620 --> 00:05:55,900 And John, the youngest one, was nine his whole life. 76 00:06:03,499 --> 00:06:10,360 The DeFeo family had moved from Brooklyn to their stately Amityville home in 77 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:17,000 1965, and many wondered, was it a burglary or maybe a home invasion that 78 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,280 been the motive for the murders? 79 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:21,800 You could tell they had money. 80 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,590 The house was... A very, very nice house in a good neighborhood on the water 81 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:30,190 with a pool and a boat dock. 82 00:06:30,510 --> 00:06:34,610 And there was a sign out front that said High Hope. 83 00:06:34,850 --> 00:06:39,290 I remember saying to myself, well, I guess their high hopes are gone. 84 00:06:40,030 --> 00:06:44,610 This is Bulletin from the WOR Newsroom. Six members of one family have been 85 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:48,890 found shot to death in their nightclothes in their expensive home in 86 00:06:49,050 --> 00:06:50,050 Long Island. 87 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:52,530 Six people in one family. 88 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,400 had been murdered. That was quite astounding. Not only were there six 89 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,440 they were all killed in their beds. 90 00:06:59,660 --> 00:07:04,020 And there's no evidence of a struggle, and everyone was sleeping peacefully. 91 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,740 All found in the same position, face down. 92 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:09,660 And that was very unusual. 93 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,560 They were found by a 23 -year -old son, Ronald DeFeo, who is believed to be the 94 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,300 only surviving member of the family. 95 00:07:17,820 --> 00:07:22,120 Police investigating the case say they have no suspect, no weapon, and no 96 00:07:23,860 --> 00:07:30,300 There were just a few of us that were gathered there in Suffolk County. They 97 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:34,840 the homicide unit, and they had the police tape up. Because the police were 98 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,660 there, some of the neighbors started showing up, and the neighbors said, 99 00:07:38,660 --> 00:07:39,780 going on? What do you know? 100 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,220 There we were on Ocean Avenue, and there's a crowd on the other side of the 101 00:07:44,220 --> 00:07:46,960 street. The scene was, it was surreal. 102 00:07:47,820 --> 00:07:50,340 And then the body bags started coming out. 103 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:57,860 There were two large body bags at first, and then there was another one, and 104 00:07:57,860 --> 00:08:02,800 another one, and another one, and then the final one. 105 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,480 And the one at the end, they were the smaller body bags. 106 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,300 And then we looked at each other, and we said, oh, my God. 107 00:08:11,820 --> 00:08:16,080 We're just watching bodies come out and cameras going off and police and 108 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,780 officials in the crowd. It's very quiet. I've never seen a crowd that quiet. 109 00:08:20,980 --> 00:08:23,920 Something big had gone down. That was what was in the air. 110 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:28,020 Little did we know what was going to happen. 111 00:08:30,580 --> 00:08:32,059 The DePayos had a reputation. 112 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,760 You have a family with secrets, criminal secrets, and they're also violent 113 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,760 secrets. 114 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:55,930 The story broke of a family of six slaughtered in Amityville, Long Island. 115 00:08:55,930 --> 00:08:59,930 members of a suburban New York family have been found shot to death in their 116 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:00,930 beds. 117 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:08,570 It was all over the news because Amityville, they had had maybe one 118 00:09:08,570 --> 00:09:09,570 hundred years. 119 00:09:09,610 --> 00:09:16,530 I remember the phone rang and they said, the DeFeos are all dead. They 120 00:09:16,530 --> 00:09:17,970 were all murdered. 121 00:09:18,730 --> 00:09:22,190 Killed were auto dealer Ronald DeFeo, his wife, and four other children. 122 00:09:22,510 --> 00:09:23,710 They were all gone. 123 00:09:23,930 --> 00:09:25,230 They were all gone. 124 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:30,110 And there's only one surviving member of the family, 125 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:31,970 Ron Jr. 126 00:09:32,010 --> 00:09:34,850 Ron Jr. said he came home to find his family dead. 127 00:09:35,710 --> 00:09:38,070 It was a tragedy. I lost my whole family. 128 00:09:43,070 --> 00:09:47,810 Ronald DeFeo Sr., also known as Big Ronnie, had grown up in Brooklyn, New 129 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,360 He had been a high school athlete back in the day when he caught the eye of the 130 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:59,100 beautiful Louise Briganti. When Big Ronnie, Ronald DeFeo Sr., met Louise, it 131 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:01,200 seemed like they had fallen in love pretty quick. 132 00:10:01,580 --> 00:10:07,100 And Louise's parents, the Brigantis, were not a fan of Big Ronnie. 133 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,860 He was crude, obnoxious, a bragger. They didn't really see Louise with him. 134 00:10:14,220 --> 00:10:17,640 Despite her parents' objections, Louise married Big Ronnie. 135 00:10:17,980 --> 00:10:20,380 and the two settled into a life in a Brooklyn apartment. 136 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,100 Soon after, the couple welcomed a son, Ronald Jr., and two daughters, Dawn and 137 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:28,540 Allison, and another son named Mark. 138 00:10:28,820 --> 00:10:33,120 Before the birth of their last child, John Matthew, the family moved out to 139 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,020 Island and their waterfront home in Amityville. 140 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:43,540 They had been living in Brooklyn, and Louise Briganti DeFeo was the apple of 141 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:46,900 father's eye. He would do anything for his daughter. The Brigantis... 142 00:10:47,410 --> 00:10:52,730 Loved Louise very, very much, and they wanted to make sure she was provided 143 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:58,090 So they actually bought the house in Amityville for the DeFeos. 144 00:10:58,410 --> 00:11:02,090 For me, the house was like something out of a movie. 145 00:11:02,410 --> 00:11:04,790 They lived on the canal, and they had a boathouse. 146 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:09,610 When you went in, they had these big rooms with high ceilings. I felt like I 147 00:11:09,610 --> 00:11:10,610 going back in time. 148 00:11:11,410 --> 00:11:13,690 They were having these portraits painted of themselves. 149 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:16,510 That were going to be hung on the staircase. 150 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:20,110 Like this is some sort of 19th century Gilded Age family. 151 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:27,170 Not knowing at all what the future was going to be. The move to Amityville was 152 00:11:27,170 --> 00:11:28,370 like a new start. 153 00:11:28,610 --> 00:11:31,410 That's why they named the place High Hope. 154 00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:33,870 This was going to be the beginning. 155 00:11:34,390 --> 00:11:39,430 But who would kill this family, all of them, in cold blood? 156 00:11:41,710 --> 00:11:43,790 We have no suspect at this time. 157 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:46,990 We have no indication of the motive for this time. 158 00:11:50,310 --> 00:11:51,870 It was like unreal. 159 00:11:52,190 --> 00:11:56,870 It can't be true. It can't be possible that this could happen. 160 00:11:57,170 --> 00:12:02,250 They were just very sweet, very religious people, very family -minded 161 00:12:02,970 --> 00:12:08,150 Louise was a very sweet girl, and all our children were similar ages. 162 00:12:08,430 --> 00:12:13,850 We would take the bus and go to museums in New York and just... 163 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:16,070 hang out with the kids and the husband. 164 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:21,210 Louise was a typical Italian mother. She cooked. She did what she had to do to 165 00:12:21,210 --> 00:12:22,210 take care of the house. 166 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:24,930 Ronnie was Big Ronnie. He was the man of the house. 167 00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:30,790 Little John Matt was nine when he died, and he was just your typical nine -year 168 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:32,050 -old boy. Just a sweet kid. 169 00:12:32,510 --> 00:12:35,810 Mark DeFeo, he was into sports. 170 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:40,470 Mark and I were in the same football league. 171 00:12:40,940 --> 00:12:43,600 Our parents got close together watching the games. 172 00:12:44,060 --> 00:12:48,480 Mark and I used to play in the driveway on the bicycles and drive around and 173 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,860 just have fun and spend the night there. There was nothing odd. 174 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,000 It was just a typical family. 175 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,480 I remember that the little girl, Allison, loved to do puzzles. 176 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,660 And in her room, there was a puzzle that she had been working on. 177 00:13:06,410 --> 00:13:10,990 Alison was a sweet girl. People I met that knew her said she was a little 178 00:13:11,210 --> 00:13:13,250 It was not a bad word, came out of her mouth. 179 00:13:13,730 --> 00:13:17,250 But Dawn Tafio, she was more rebellious. 180 00:13:17,570 --> 00:13:22,370 Dawn, she was a year older than I was. We first connected on CYO softball. We 181 00:13:22,370 --> 00:13:23,650 were in the softball league together. 182 00:13:23,970 --> 00:13:26,410 She always had this nice smile. She was always friendly. 183 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,140 There were other girls, too, because they were older than you by a year. They 184 00:13:30,140 --> 00:13:33,760 didn't really want to associate with you, but she was never like that. We 185 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,960 just 13-, 14 -year -olds having slumber parties and pool parties. There was 186 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,140 nothing out of the norm. 187 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:48,320 Against this wonderful setting, you've got six bodies in body bags. It was 188 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,100 unthinkable. And we said, well... 189 00:13:50,410 --> 00:13:56,610 There must be a gunman or gunmen, women, men, young, old, who knows? We had no 190 00:13:56,610 --> 00:14:01,510 clue. Authorities were baffled at who would want this picture -perfect family 191 00:14:01,510 --> 00:14:06,410 killed, but they were learning that appearances can be very deceiving. 192 00:14:06,610 --> 00:14:10,770 On the face of it, this is a family that is very good at keeping up appearances, 193 00:14:10,910 --> 00:14:16,290 and they're living in bucolic Amityville, but this is a family with 194 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,200 People we talked to seemed to feel that whatever was the motive for this crime, 195 00:14:21,340 --> 00:14:22,920 it had something to do with the family. 196 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,860 The one surviving member of the family, Ronnie DeFeo Jr., says that his father 197 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:29,860 had enemies. 198 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,340 I mean, so many people wanted to kill him. 199 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,480 I remember the neighbors telling me that Big Ronnie would boast how he had a 200 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,680 gun, how he had connections. 201 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:44,780 And there was rumors that he was in the mafia, like that was the thing. And 202 00:14:44,780 --> 00:14:46,920 because he had a lot of money and he had... 203 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,320 Big cars and things. 204 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Big Ronnie DeFeo. 205 00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:52,240 He was a strange guy. 206 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,340 At one point, he thought he had ESP. He would wake family up in the middle of 207 00:14:57,340 --> 00:15:00,420 the night, family who lived by the water, saying, you have to evacuate, 208 00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:01,399 a tsunami coming. 209 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,400 I feel it. 210 00:15:02,540 --> 00:15:04,500 He really had delusions. 211 00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:09,840 And all of a sudden, religion came into his life. 212 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:11,660 He got this revelation. 213 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:13,420 He was one with St. 214 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:16,180 Joseph, and he was a changed man. 215 00:15:17,020 --> 00:15:19,880 In front of the house, there are a lot of Catholic statues. 216 00:15:22,220 --> 00:15:27,880 There is a St. Joseph holding a baby Jesus, and Big Ronnie would come out, 217 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,120 he would pray in front of that statue in his underwear. 218 00:15:31,540 --> 00:15:37,360 He was strange. He told us one time that he was at the crucifixion, and what 219 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,219 could we say? 220 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:40,080 If you were there, you were there. 221 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:45,140 He was a big presence. He had a big personality, and you were a little 222 00:15:45,140 --> 00:15:47,860 him. He was a little scary because his voice was a little loud. 223 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:52,300 And Big Ronnie's behavior was more than just odd and off -putting. It was 224 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:55,340 reported that he was abusive to his wife and children. 225 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,820 The DeFeos had a reputation. 226 00:15:57,220 --> 00:15:59,140 The problem is that they don't get along sometimes. 227 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,260 There's dissension and there's conflict within the DeFeo family. 228 00:16:04,620 --> 00:16:08,800 It was a very chaotic, tumultuous household. 229 00:16:09,140 --> 00:16:13,460 Mr. DeFeo Sr. was jealous about his wife. He thought she was having an 230 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:14,249 with her. 231 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,950 the man who painted the family portrait. 232 00:16:16,430 --> 00:16:21,150 He kind of wanted to be in control of Louise. 233 00:16:21,610 --> 00:16:26,710 He wanted everyone just listen to him and do what he says. 234 00:16:27,190 --> 00:16:31,610 There was a history of violence there. Big Ronnie had a horrible sickness, and 235 00:16:31,610 --> 00:16:32,870 it got worse and worse. 236 00:16:34,050 --> 00:16:35,630 The old man used to beat her. 237 00:16:36,370 --> 00:16:41,550 She's wearing sunglasses this big, and you could see, you know, bruises, her 238 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:42,550 arms, her legs. 239 00:16:43,310 --> 00:16:46,170 Big Ronnie Sr., he was chauvinistic. 240 00:16:46,430 --> 00:16:47,690 He had a temper. 241 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:53,470 And there are stories about how Louise was coming up from the basement and she 242 00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:55,670 was carrying a washbasket full of clothes. 243 00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:59,510 And he punched her right in the mouth. 244 00:17:00,010 --> 00:17:02,250 And she tumbled down the stairs. 245 00:17:03,470 --> 00:17:08,930 And he closed the door and said, well, she's not going to bother us and we're 246 00:17:08,930 --> 00:17:10,670 not going to have any more noise now. 247 00:17:11,310 --> 00:17:13,530 And they sat down and finished dinner. 248 00:17:15,530 --> 00:17:19,730 Dawn DeFeo had a problem, specifically with her father. 249 00:17:20,010 --> 00:17:23,750 Her relationship with her parents towards the end of her life was very 250 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:28,870 tumultuous. She wanted to elope with some guy, and this caused friction 251 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:30,950 parents didn't want her to leave. 252 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:33,790 My sister wanted to be free, and... 253 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,380 You couldn't be free and be a DeFeo. None of us. We were all like a dog on a 254 00:17:39,380 --> 00:17:41,200 leash, everybody in that house. Nobody could be free. 255 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,260 The place was a powder keg waiting to explode. 256 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:50,300 Something was bound to happen in that house. If it wasn't for his anger, hate, 257 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,860 and violence, the DeFeos would still be alive. 258 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:09,390 Authorities swarmed the quiet community of Amityville, New York, after the 259 00:18:09,390 --> 00:18:13,790 bodies of six members of the DeFeo family were found by the sole survivor, 260 00:18:13,790 --> 00:18:15,770 eldest son, Ronnie DeFeo Jr. 261 00:18:17,450 --> 00:18:23,650 It was 1974, and Amityville was a nice, quaint little village. 262 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:29,310 And it was all over the news that these six people had been murdered. 263 00:18:29,770 --> 00:18:31,090 Ronnie DeFeo Jr. 264 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:33,670 Two brothers, two sisters of his. 265 00:18:34,030 --> 00:18:35,350 Mother and father all gone. 266 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:39,690 I knew something bad was going to happen to my mother and father. 267 00:18:40,090 --> 00:18:43,610 I didn't know when it was going to happen. I didn't know who was going to 268 00:18:43,630 --> 00:18:46,450 but I could say that I knew something was coming. 269 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:54,510 When the murders were uncovered, Ron was pulled in and questioned, and he said 270 00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:56,330 that this was a mob hit. 271 00:18:57,390 --> 00:18:59,530 At first, Ronnie blamed the mafia. 272 00:19:00,490 --> 00:19:05,650 He said, yeah, you know, my dad was in the mob, and they rubbed out the whole 273 00:19:05,650 --> 00:19:10,790 family. Folks in Amityville knew Ronald DeFeo Sr.'s family. 274 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:12,970 They were connected to the mob. 275 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:16,310 My father was involved with big, big people. 276 00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:18,670 An organized crime. 277 00:19:19,570 --> 00:19:21,930 One of the people was Peter DeFeo, my uncle. 278 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:27,710 One of Ronnie's uncles. 279 00:19:28,430 --> 00:19:34,410 Keith DeFeo was reputed to be a member of the Genovese crime family. And again, 280 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:40,990 putting this in the context of the time, back in the mid -70s, early 281 00:19:40,990 --> 00:19:44,990 80s in New York, you had a lot of mob hits going on. 282 00:19:45,490 --> 00:19:51,130 And there was speculation that Louise's family, the Brigantes, also had ties to 283 00:19:51,130 --> 00:19:52,089 the mafia. 284 00:19:52,090 --> 00:19:56,130 This is the rumor, and these rumors keep swirling around, that Juan is 285 00:19:56,130 --> 00:20:00,470 grandfather. Mr. Burganti was somehow tied to the mob. 286 00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:03,250 Michael Burganti Sr. 287 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:05,150 was connected to organized crime. 288 00:20:05,490 --> 00:20:09,830 He owned a Buick car dealership. They did dirty work for the mob. 289 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:11,830 Burganti Sr. 290 00:20:12,050 --> 00:20:14,870 employed his son -in -law, Ronald Sr. 291 00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:21,810 My father worked for Mike Burganti Sr., who was my grandfather, my mother's 292 00:20:21,810 --> 00:20:25,870 father. He owned a Buick agency, a Buick dealership. 293 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,660 My father was the boss of the service end of the dealership. 294 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,600 It was a legitimate business. 295 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,920 They didn't do anything wrong in the Buick dealership. They took it outside. 296 00:20:39,940 --> 00:20:40,940 Ronald Sr. 297 00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:46,060 was in charge of the ledgers for the dealership. And we're talking the 298 00:20:46,060 --> 00:20:51,660 unofficial accounts where it showed all the monies, all the transactions, all 299 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:53,080 the dirty hands, and so forth. 300 00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:55,720 He would often take those books home. 301 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:59,500 and cook them up for the dealership. 302 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,680 Butch worked there as well. 303 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:08,700 And DeFeo would do work for the mob, delivering money and delivering packages 304 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:09,780 and things like that. 305 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,140 I did whatever I had to do. 306 00:21:12,580 --> 00:21:14,100 Whatever they told me to do, I did. 307 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,780 And I was paid money for doing it. 308 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:24,460 There had been some secret tape recordings, you know, authorized 309 00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:25,460 the RICO squad. 310 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,760 the racket boys, if you will, that involved the Briganti Buick dealership. 311 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,920 Ronnie Jr. 312 00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:38,340 was the subject of many of those conversations between Michael Briganti 313 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:45,100 grandfather, and his friends, associates, etc., who talked about very 314 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:51,180 oh my God, that kid, meaning Ronnie, he could hang us all with what he knows. 315 00:21:54,570 --> 00:21:58,950 There was also talk at the time that Ronald DeFeo Sr. 316 00:21:59,710 --> 00:22:03,930 had also been skimming some money off the side from the Buick dealership. 317 00:22:04,890 --> 00:22:05,890 Ronald Sr. 318 00:22:06,210 --> 00:22:08,070 embezzled money from the mob. 319 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:12,930 At the time of the murders in November of 74, things were really going bad for 320 00:22:12,930 --> 00:22:13,930 Big Ronnie. 321 00:22:14,030 --> 00:22:19,970 Briganti was thinking very heavily of closing the dealership. So that meant 322 00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:21,970 Ronnie had to do one big score. 323 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:23,250 He was... 324 00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:26,950 trying to work with Butch on embezzling as much money as possible. 325 00:22:27,690 --> 00:22:32,730 Several weeks before the murder, $20 ,000 bank deposit that Ronnie Jr. 326 00:22:33,150 --> 00:22:38,050 and one of the other employees was supposed to be making had suddenly 327 00:22:38,050 --> 00:22:39,050 disappeared. 328 00:22:39,670 --> 00:22:41,350 That would be a death sentence. 329 00:22:43,470 --> 00:22:47,690 Police immediately put Ron DeFeo in protective custody. Therefore, if they 330 00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:49,350 the whole family, they would get him as well. 331 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:54,070 They didn't really know if this was a mob hit or not, and they weren't taking 332 00:22:54,070 --> 00:22:55,070 chance. 333 00:22:56,790 --> 00:23:00,150 Today, police combed the DeFeo's handsome three -story house for clues. 334 00:23:00,610 --> 00:23:04,250 The rifle used in the murders, it is so definite. 335 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:07,250 Why didn't somebody wake up? 336 00:23:08,170 --> 00:23:09,870 Which is another big mystery here. 337 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,620 Welcome back to Very Scary People. 338 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:30,440 The mystery about who committed the execution -style murders of the DeFeo 339 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,100 family, mother, father, and four of their children, consumed the town of 340 00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,800 Amityville. Was it a robbery gone wrong? 341 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:39,880 Could it have been a mob hit? 342 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,560 Or a family vendetta? 343 00:23:51,790 --> 00:23:55,870 They were shots that left six members of one family dead in this charming Dutch 344 00:23:55,870 --> 00:24:01,090 colonial home. And there's only one surviving member of the family. 345 00:24:02,410 --> 00:24:09,010 Ronald DeFeo Jr., his nickname was Butch, and he was the oldest. 346 00:24:09,070 --> 00:24:10,210 He was the firstborn. 347 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:12,590 He loved his mother very much. 348 00:24:13,330 --> 00:24:17,950 And Louise, from everything I've learned, Butch was her pride and joy. 349 00:24:18,730 --> 00:24:20,250 Ronnie was quiet. 350 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Never said a whole lot. He gave you the sense that he was a tough guy, but 351 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,440 never threatening, never violent. 352 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,760 The police took Ronnie Jr. 353 00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:38,340 into protective custody and took him to the police headquarters to provide his 354 00:24:38,340 --> 00:24:39,340 statement. 355 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,820 Police have been questioning the son, Ronald, and now say he is being, quote, 356 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:46,300 safeguarded. I was scared. 357 00:24:48,910 --> 00:24:50,190 My whole family is dead. 358 00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:56,090 I remember talking to a cop, and he told me that there was some speculation that 359 00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:57,090 it was a mob hit. 360 00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:59,310 Ronald DeFeo Jr. 361 00:24:59,630 --> 00:25:04,610 was claiming that somebody was out to get the family. There was talk of these 362 00:25:04,610 --> 00:25:06,450 killers coming from Brooklyn. 363 00:25:10,590 --> 00:25:14,350 But I immediately thought, no, they wouldn't kill the kids. 364 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,680 Organized crime did not condone the execution of small children. 365 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,080 So that would have been a cardinal sin for them. 366 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,120 And there would be plenty of ways if they wanted to send a message to do that 367 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,400 without killing those kids. 368 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,240 No, it doesn't stack up. 369 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,820 Police had continued on their investigation. 370 00:25:41,930 --> 00:25:45,630 Today, police combed the DeFeo's handsome three -story house for clues 371 00:25:45,630 --> 00:25:49,430 divers explored the backyard swimming pool for the still -unfound murder 372 00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:54,570 The day after the bodies were discovered, the police were looking for 373 00:25:54,570 --> 00:25:59,910 and everything that could point them in the right direction for the suspect and 374 00:25:59,910 --> 00:26:00,910 the motive. 375 00:26:01,570 --> 00:26:05,930 The first thing you're going to do is look at the crime scene and try to 376 00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:08,670 understand what occurred in the house. 377 00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:13,970 And what may have been the psychology of the perpetrator. 378 00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:17,910 You have an entire family that was killed. 379 00:26:18,490 --> 00:26:20,790 All the victims were found in bed. 380 00:26:21,490 --> 00:26:24,070 And there's no evidence of a struggle. 381 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:31,070 The nature of the shootings was shooting in the back in bed. 382 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:37,030 It had to be somebody who knew the house really well. 383 00:26:38,220 --> 00:26:42,060 They were on different floors, in different rooms. 384 00:26:43,660 --> 00:26:49,640 Typically, if there's a home invasion, there is some alarm raised in the house. 385 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:54,840 I think that the fact that they were all in their beds does raise the question 386 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,040 of whether it really was somebody who was known to them. 387 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,240 The medical examiner determined that all six victims had been killed in the 388 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,680 early morning hours of November 13th. 389 00:27:07,050 --> 00:27:11,550 The time of death, 16 to 18 hours before they were discovered. 390 00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:18,830 At the time of the murder, somewhere between 3 a .m., 3 391 00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:25,350 .15, 3 .30, the family's sheepdog was howling. 392 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:32,970 The teenage boy, two doors away, told investigators he heard the dog howling, 393 00:27:33,010 --> 00:27:35,710 which he thought was a little odd. 394 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,160 And the cause of death was gunshot wounds from a rifle. According to the 395 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,100 coroner, it was the very high -powered .35 caliber Marlin rifle. 396 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,140 It was a cowboy gun. 397 00:27:52,940 --> 00:27:54,540 It is so deafening. 398 00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:59,080 I remember thinking, geez, somebody had to walk around the house shooting 399 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,900 people. Why didn't somebody wake up? 400 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,760 There were questions about whether the victims had been drugged before they 401 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,760 to sleep. 402 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,500 But according to the coroner and the autopsy reports, they were not drugged, 403 00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:16,800 which is another big mystery here. 404 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,160 Why didn't anybody hear anything? 405 00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:27,180 More intense questioning of Rhonda Thayer. 406 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,200 Somebody else was in the house, ran out of the house. 407 00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:33,520 It turns out that one person did hear the gunshot. 408 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,480 It was terrible. 409 00:28:47,540 --> 00:28:50,960 Six people were shot dead in their bed. 410 00:28:53,780 --> 00:29:00,760 On the night of November 13, 1974, all the bodies were found shot from all the 411 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,760 point -blank range. 412 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,600 None of the family members was awakened by the explosive burst of gunfire 413 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,620 throughout the house. 414 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:14,740 Autopsies showed that they had not been drugged. Why didn't anyone hear a 415 00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:15,740 gunshot? 416 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:24,050 But it turns out that one person did hear the gunshot. 417 00:29:24,410 --> 00:29:25,630 Ronnie DeFeo Jr. 418 00:29:25,970 --> 00:29:30,670 now tells the police that he was there, at the house, when his family was 419 00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:31,670 killed. 420 00:29:31,910 --> 00:29:34,170 So Ronnie had been drinking that night. 421 00:29:34,390 --> 00:29:39,070 He was watching TV down in the basement. He had been taking drugs. 422 00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:45,110 He told the police that people broke into the house. He was in the basement, 423 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:46,690 he heard muffled sounds. 424 00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:52,230 It didn't sound like a gunshot. It sounded like a backfire on a car, but 425 00:29:52,990 --> 00:29:56,950 Somebody else was in the house, ran out of the house, but I couldn't catch him 426 00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:58,450 when he ran out the front door. 427 00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:06,330 When you're talking to someone who has a very unstable account of what happened, 428 00:30:06,570 --> 00:30:12,630 you want to go back again and again to try and see how he's going to respond, 429 00:30:12,770 --> 00:30:14,670 what his explanations are going to be. 430 00:30:15,210 --> 00:30:17,930 and to also focus in on the discrepancies. 431 00:30:19,810 --> 00:30:22,050 More intense questioning of Ron DeFeo. 432 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:29,250 And then another story that someone came into the house, they pulled him 433 00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:32,170 along with them, and they shot everyone while he was present. 434 00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:35,350 I knew then I was set up. 435 00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:38,910 I was going to be the scapegoat for everybody. 436 00:30:40,510 --> 00:30:41,590 Ronnie DeFeo Jr. 437 00:30:42,210 --> 00:30:43,730 was not the most stable. 438 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:45,190 of individuals. 439 00:30:45,290 --> 00:30:49,190 There was something odd about him. He wasn't the warm, friendly older brother 440 00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:52,850 who comes over and asks if you need help or anything. He just was this loner and 441 00:30:52,850 --> 00:30:54,390 not in a healthy way. 442 00:30:55,290 --> 00:30:59,010 He quit school and didn't really work. 443 00:30:59,210 --> 00:31:02,730 He drank a lot, hung out in a neighborhood bar. 444 00:31:04,010 --> 00:31:09,030 He was known as sort of a troublemaker around the town. 445 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:13,230 He borrowed money from people and didn't pay it back and bullied people. 446 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,620 He was a heavy substance abuser starting from the age of 15 or 16. 447 00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:21,800 Every day I got high, I used heroin. I was using a lot of heroin back then. I 448 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,520 was drinking too excessively. Scots are on the rocks. 449 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,020 His parents, they took him to a psychiatrist in hopes of calming him 450 00:31:31,020 --> 00:31:32,020 didn't work. 451 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,560 So his parents lavished him with gifts. 452 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,600 They did not spare the rod, but they continued to spoil the child. 453 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,400 He had access to an allowance of several hundred dollars a week. 454 00:31:44,660 --> 00:31:48,980 Ronnie would walk around with a couple thousand dollars in his pocket. 455 00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:54,540 They bought him a $14 ,000 speedboat, but that didn't settle Ron. 456 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:57,480 He was an angry young man. 457 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:04,700 He also had a stockpile of several weapons in the house. 458 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,240 They have Ronnie in custody. 459 00:32:09,850 --> 00:32:14,470 just to talk about the murder. And very soon they begin to wonder. 460 00:32:14,890 --> 00:32:19,310 He threw out a lot of wild theories. 461 00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:26,830 He makes some unconvincing excuses, but what is very significant is 462 00:32:26,830 --> 00:32:33,330 he seems to be justifying the death of his family. That does raise a lot of red 463 00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:34,330 flags. 464 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,680 He said that he discovered his mother had had an affair and that he despised 465 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,680 for that. 466 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:46,400 He also told the police that his father was making him work too hard. 467 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,340 He complained that his brothers were little pigs in the bathroom. 468 00:32:51,820 --> 00:32:54,700 They said, what do you think about your sister Dawn? 469 00:32:55,020 --> 00:32:58,960 Dawn, that effing bitch. 470 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,560 That's how he described her. 471 00:33:02,190 --> 00:33:06,370 That's very striking for somebody to say that when their family has just been 472 00:33:06,370 --> 00:33:07,370 murdered. 473 00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:14,250 Louise used to tell me that Butchie was bad. 474 00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:19,950 I didn't know what she meant, but she said, no, Butchie is bad. 475 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:24,730 I think he had more troubles than we thought, than they thought. 476 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:44,420 I first heard about this case, about Ronnie DeFeo, on the 11 o 477 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:51,220 'clock news that his family had been murdered and that Ronnie was 478 00:33:51,220 --> 00:33:53,340 being held in protective custody. 479 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,240 What about Ronald DeFeo, the son, the surviving son? Ronald is being 480 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,260 by the Suffolk County Police at this time. 481 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,280 Investigators say without explanation that they now feel Young DeFeo was in 482 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,360 house at the time of the murders, but they're not yet considering him a 483 00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:12,179 It came to my mind that he has to be a person of interest. 484 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Talking about the death of his family, there is such a lack of emotion, and he 485 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,320 also is so preoccupied with the justification for the killing. 486 00:34:24,659 --> 00:34:28,239 He describes the father as abusive. He describes the mother as checked out. 487 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:31,800 Dawn, he talks about her with clear hostility. 488 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,340 Dallas and Mark and John, when he talks about them, it's very superficial. 489 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,420 There's very little sadness about their death, which is what you usually hear 490 00:34:42,420 --> 00:34:45,780 when someone talks about someone that they have real love for and that they're 491 00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:51,280 grieving for, which to me makes it certainly within the realm of 492 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,780 that he killed them. 493 00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,090 While searching the DeFeo home, Police find a box for a Marlin .35 caliber 494 00:35:00,090 --> 00:35:05,950 rifle, along with boxes of Remington shells, all of which belong to Ronnie 495 00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:12,670 Jr. And within the first 48 hours, the focus had quickly shifted to 496 00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:14,750 him as the chief suspect. 497 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:19,330 They read in his Miranda rights, and they officially told him that he was the 498 00:35:19,330 --> 00:35:21,050 suspect of his family's murder. 499 00:35:24,430 --> 00:35:29,130 Now a suspect, police switch from interviewing Ronnie Jr. to interrogating 500 00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:39,710 And different police talk to him, and the head of homicide, Robert Dunn, is 501 00:35:39,710 --> 00:35:43,270 first one, and then Dennis Rafferty. 502 00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:50,570 He was the detective who was an expert at extracting confessions from people. 503 00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:53,390 I just tried to warm up to him, really. 504 00:35:53,880 --> 00:36:00,420 to talk to him, try to make him comfortable, and proceeded to 505 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,440 Several detectives took a turn on Butch, and finally the key detectives were 506 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,180 able to get Butch to cooperate. 507 00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:09,820 Ronnie Jr. 508 00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:13,400 was vacillating between telling the police that he had no idea what happened 509 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,800 his family and then switching his story to he was there and the killers forced 510 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,180 him to watch his family being killed. 511 00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:27,970 Here's Ronnie saying other people did it, taking him through his house room by 512 00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:32,110 room, telling him other people did the shooting. 513 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:36,790 But the details he had were so precise. 514 00:36:37,550 --> 00:36:44,110 And finally, Rafferty says to him, you did it. Ronnie didn't do it. 515 00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:47,690 And Ronnie said, yes, I did it. 516 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:49,850 As far as I was concerned, 517 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,300 I got to them before they got to me. 518 00:36:55,820 --> 00:36:59,240 Louise used to tell me that Butchie was bad. 519 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,880 I didn't know what she meant, but she said, no, Butchie is bad. 520 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,220 I was always in trouble. I don't know what I did. 521 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,960 I was out of trouble. 522 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,000 I think he had more troubles than we thought, than they thought. 523 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:21,870 At 17, he was into drugs, LSD, heroin, a fifth of scotch every day. 524 00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:24,570 He was always at odds with his father, Ronald Sr. 525 00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:30,610 His father was a violent person, and Ronald DeFeo was subject to a lot of 526 00:37:30,610 --> 00:37:32,430 starting at a very young age. 527 00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:37,410 There's evidence that even as an infant, as an 18 -month -old, his father would 528 00:37:37,410 --> 00:37:40,130 whack him on the head to stop him from crying. 529 00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:41,610 He was a violent man. 530 00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:57,570 You've got a very domineering father and a mother that's caught in the middle of 531 00:37:57,570 --> 00:37:58,570 this mess. 532 00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:03,650 Butch started blaming his mother for allowing his father to get out of 533 00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:04,650 with the abuse. 534 00:38:04,810 --> 00:38:09,950 He blamed her more than the sickness that his father had because she allowed 535 00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:10,950 to continue. 536 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:15,690 Children of an abusive father will often blame the mother for not having 537 00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:21,610 protected them or view her as an accomplice just by virtue of her 538 00:38:21,610 --> 00:38:23,430 her denial of what's going on. 539 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:24,690 After Ronnie Jr. 540 00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:29,390 became older, his resentment against his mother grew, and he began to fight back 541 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:30,390 against his father. 542 00:38:30,650 --> 00:38:31,650 There's fighting. 543 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:35,770 Ronnie and his father fight, and he gets crazy, and he's got a horrible temper. 544 00:38:36,750 --> 00:38:38,810 Ronnie... Senior and Ronnie Jr. 545 00:38:39,010 --> 00:38:42,850 had a very contentious, bellicose relationship. 546 00:38:43,330 --> 00:38:44,990 They were always at war. 547 00:38:45,810 --> 00:38:49,210 They had fistfights that spilled out onto the front lawn. 548 00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:54,070 And then Ronnie would take off in his car, and his father would get in his car 549 00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:56,630 and speed down the block following him. 550 00:38:57,530 --> 00:39:04,150 At one point during a fight, he pulled a 12 -gauge shotgun out and pointed it at 551 00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:06,530 his father's face and pulled the trigger. 552 00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:14,800 The rifle malfunctioned. The last time I saw Butch and Big Ronnie, they were 553 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,360 fighting in the driveway, yelling at each other. 554 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,880 Big Ronnie was saying, get out of here. 555 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,000 The relationship between Butch DeFeo and his father was coming to a head. 556 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,180 He felt controlled by his father and terrorized by his father. 557 00:39:31,460 --> 00:39:34,060 I didn't want their love. I didn't want anything to do with them. 558 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,140 How much abuse did you think I was going to take? 559 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,920 He was a ticking time bomb. 560 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,800 I had it with him, and it was fun. This has got to stop. 561 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:50,060 Anger and abuse and violence and drug addiction and alcoholism, 562 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,100 it became a perfect storm that fed into the murders. 563 00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:07,060 He said, yes, I did it. I killed them all. You couldn't believe how it 564 00:40:07,660 --> 00:40:13,440 There were very strange things associated with the DeFeo murders that 565 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,740 coroner, the forensic people could not understand. 566 00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:22,640 Ron DeFeo said that he heard voices telling him to kill, compelling him to 567 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,900 one member of the family after another. 568 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,380 Before you know it. 569 00:40:29,050 --> 00:40:31,930 People are talking about this house allegedly being haunted. 570 00:40:32,410 --> 00:40:36,310 The story got bigger and more embellished and more fantastical. 571 00:40:36,690 --> 00:40:43,210 Ghosts flying to levitating, to doors flying off hinges, to demons, to satanic 572 00:40:43,210 --> 00:40:45,670 horses. I was there at midnight. 573 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:47,610 They started the seance. 574 00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:52,050 It's like a black shadow that forms a hood. 575 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:54,590 And it moves. 576 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:57,650 This is the closest to hell I ever want to get. 577 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,560 I'm the devil. I'm possessed. 578 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,800 I'm supposed to be vicious. 579 00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:02,540 A madman. 580 00:41:03,340 --> 00:41:04,940 Insane. Hear voices. 581 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,020 That just makes your blood run cold. 582 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,080 The evil in the house was him. 583 00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:20,580 After Ron DeFeo Jr.'s shocking confession that he was the murderer, the 584 00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:23,720 deepened. Why would he kill his entire family? 585 00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:27,100 There was no sign of a struggle. Why didn't any of them fight back? 586 00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:29,340 Why didn't anyone try to run away? 587 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,160 What was his motive? 588 00:41:31,580 --> 00:41:33,520 Greed, anger, or insanity? 589 00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:38,880 What really happened that night? In part two of The Amityville Horror. 590 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,700 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. 591 00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:43,200 Thanks for watching. Good night. 592 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,760 You're watching HLN On Demand. 593 00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:54,360 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 53369

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