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ARTHUR KANE: It took me over
an hour to get-- uh, get there.
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The Santa Monica bus
from, uh, over here, uh--
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Santa Monica and, um, Wilshire.
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Took me over an hour
to get into Hollywood.
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Should wait til the--
we should get the four,
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the next one that's coming.
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This doesn't stop at the, um,
the Family History Center.
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I'm still, uh, at this point--
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I'm single.
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I'm not married.
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I'm eligible to go out on dates.
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I'm available for
that type of stuff,
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but because I work in the--
uh, I work in the temple,
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I have to go very easy
on these relationships.
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And it's not, you know, instant
sex and wham, bam, thank you,
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ma'am stuff, you know?
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I just-- this is not, you
know, what it once was.
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We don't even live
in a world that--
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that world doesn't
exist anymore.
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And so I'm spoiled
from the past.
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And it's hard to--
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it's hard to put those--
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those memories kind of get--
uh, it's hard to put them away.
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They're my fondest memories.
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[MUSIC - JOHNNY
THUNDERS, "YOU CAN'T PUT
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YOUR ARMS AROUND A MEMORY"]
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JOHNNY THUNDERS: [singing]
It doesn't pay to try.
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All the smart boys know why.
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It doesn't mean I didn't try.
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People that get into bands
and people that are musicians,
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whether they are
conscious of it or not,
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they're usually looking
for something up there.
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And they're usually
looking for the truth.
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Arthur told me, I want to
start this band, a really
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wild rock and roll band.
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And, uh, I want to
call it the Dolls.
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Gee, that's a great name.
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For, for, for a rock band, Doll.
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The Dolls?
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This is a great thing.
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He had a groove.
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The groove came out of the fact
he loved the band he was in
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and loved the song
he was playing.
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On stage, um, he moved
a bit robotically, kind
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of like a giant Frankenstein.
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He doesn't look like
he would be that active.
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Arthur couldn't breathe and
play bass at the same time.
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He would take, like, a deep
breath [breathes in], and then,
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like, bang out a bunch of notes,
and then stop and then take
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a deep breath,
[breathes in], and then
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bang out a bunch of notes.
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And that was the uniqueness.
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You don't, kind of, mix
a tutu with engineer boots.
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But Arthur would take
the engineer boots
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and paint them
yellow or something.
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And so on the one hand
he seemed, kind of,
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a bit effeminate, but
on the other hand,
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he was a very big,
solid, macho guy.
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JOHNNY THUNDERS:
[singing] You can't
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put your arm around a memory.
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Don't try.
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Don't try.
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You're just a bastard
kid, and you got no name.
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Cause you're living with
me, we're one and the same.
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And even though
they don't show--
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NINA ANTONIA: Where Arthur was
was struggling with alcohol,
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Johnny and Jerry were
struggling with heroine.
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BOB GRUEN: Arthur was
too drunk to play.
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And because Johnny and Jerry
were too stoned to play,
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the drums became more important
to them than the band.
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From driving around in
limousines and playing
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in the Olympia Theatre and
living some type of, you know,
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truly magnificent--
um, to living
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a life that most people don't
get a chance to live on Earth.
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To having that and
then losing that--
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losing that because of bad
behavior and our use of drugs
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and all of that stuff.
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We-- we had lost the New
York Dolls just a few years
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into-- into the whole thing.
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JOHNNY THUNDERS:
[singing] Don't try.
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Don't try.
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Don't try.
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Don't try.
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I'm demoted from rock
star to shlub on the bus.
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Gotta go.
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INTERVIEWER: How did you
get the name Killer Kane?
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OK.
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The first article written
about the New York Dolls
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mentioned killer bass lines.
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Killer as a
descriptive adjective
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talking about, uh, my bass
playing, killer bass lines.
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But one of the adversaries
of, um, Buck Rogers
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was someone they called The
Leader Kane, or Killer Kane.
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Hey, Killer.
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I became Killer Kane.
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Hey, Killer.
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Yeah, Killer Kane.
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That's Arthur.
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You wouldn't know it,
because he's very quiet.
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He's very quiet.
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And-- but he's-- he's--
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that's true.
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He's still-- he's still
got the playing in him.
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You never forget that, I guess.
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Because my name is Arthur, the
guitar's nickname is Excalibur.
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And we want to get--
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according to the legend--
straight, Excalibur is not--
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is not the name of
the sword that Arthur
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drew from the stone.
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Excalibur is the name of
the sword given to Arthur
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by the Lady of the Lake.
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I am the anchorman.
- Are you?
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To tell the truth, um--
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OK.
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Even if-- even if, um, I don't
actually count off the song,
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I'm responsible for, um,
keeping the tempo, uh--
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Yes.
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Maintaining that everything
is flowing smoothly,
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and that all the beginnings
and ends of the songs
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can flow together.
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I started working
with him everyday,
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and he works, like,
three days a week.
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He keeps the copiers with--
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loaded with paper.
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All the different stations that
we have here in the library,
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and he does all of that.
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He's-- he's a terrific guy.
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Knowing Arthur for, I
guess, about two years,
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and I remember he
said he had a band.
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And I had no idea
they were as popular
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as they were in New
York and that he
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was such an important
part of their group.
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Can't believe I
know a rock star.
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Who'd of thought?
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[laughs] Yes.
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He had extreme humility.
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He really did.
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Yet here he is connected
to one of the most
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raucous, notorious rock and
roll bands in musical history.
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[MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS,
"TRASH"]
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DAVID JOHANSEN: [singing]
Trash, won't pick it up.
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Take them lights away.
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Trash, won't pick it up.
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Don't take your life away.
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Trash, won't pick it up.
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Don't try to take my knife away.
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And, please, don't you
ask me if I love you.
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If you don't know
what I'm doing--
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Because it was such
fantastic pop music,
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it just seemed to me like the
absolute answer to everything.
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The MC5 and the
Stooges were good,
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but it was the Dolls that
were really exciting.
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They came out of a New
York City that was, uh,
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broke and on the
rocks, and therefore,
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had wide openings for rock
and roll to emerge like-- uh,
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like weeds in cracked cement.
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The New York Dolls
impact on London was--
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um, it was a bomb going off.
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They assimilated all this
music into their sound.
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And, you know, at the time it
was-- it was too much for most
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people to be able to handle.
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DAVID JOHANSEN: [singing]
--won't pick it up.
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Don't take my knife away.
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Trash, won't pick it up.
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Forgot to take them all away.
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And, please, don't you
ask me if I love you.
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Cause I don't know if I do.
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I want to wipe it
out here with you.
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You must remember that from
the point of view of anyone
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who loved music, music was dead.
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People forget how absolutely
dank things were, how
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dank life was and pop art was.
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Do either a stupid, um,
in my opinion, heavy metal.
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[music playing]
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[record scratches]
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All had these nonsensical
prog-rock rubbish.
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There was no sense of danger
within pop music at all.
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[drums]
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NINA ANTONIA: Well, they were
all wearing Afghan coats,
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and they all played 25 minute
drum solos, and it was boring.
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What can I say?
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Growing up in the
New York City area
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and being a teenager when
the Dolls were at their peak,
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they were gods to me.
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The New York Dolls were like--
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they were kind of like a pinhole
of light in the early 70s.
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You know, their
image was somewhat
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disturbing to a lot of people.
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MORRISSEY: So here were boys who
were calling themselves Dolls,
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and they looked like
prostitutes, male prostitutes.
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And, um, it was extraordinary.
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I loved the Osmonds and
David Cassidy and everything.
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I thought they were cute,
and they were sweet,
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and they were easy
to photograph,
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and they were easy to work with.
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But suddenly I'm looking at
this bunch, and I thought, OK.
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Fasten your belts.
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We're in for good time now.
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DAVID JOHANSEN: Say man, they
tell me you're pretty good.
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Don't you know you're
in my neighborhood?
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They tell me you're
pretty fast on them feets.
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You best be at the dance down
on 14th street, you hear?
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[MUSIC - NEW YORK
DOLLS, "(THERE'S GONNA
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BE A) SHOWDOWN"]
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[singing] Yeah, there's
gonna be a showdown.
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Yeah, there's gonna
be a showdown.
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MORRISSEY: The list
is astonishing.
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The Pretenders, the
Sex Pistols, the Clash,
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the Damned, Generation X--
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the list is absolutely endless.
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We took a lot from
the New York Dolls.
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We took a lot.
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You know, they were,
like, really, really
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raw rock and roll.
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Really high energy, great
songs, and they looked like they
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came from Mars or somewhere.
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NINA ANTONIA: It was--
it was like a telegram
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from outer space.
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Just like this fantastic
comet suddenly lands,
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and it's multi-colored,
and it's gorgeous,
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and it makes the
most fabulous sound.
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The most important
thing was style to them.
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And that made such a
massive impression.
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The world wasn't ready.
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It seems to take--
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it seems to take the pop world
30 years to understand anybody,
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to really understand
a group or an artist.
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And often it takes
deaths within the group.
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And then people say, oh,
yes, we do like those people
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now that they're not here.
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And there's no reason on Earth
why it shouldn't have happened.
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But for some strange
reason, this group
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has always been cursed.
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LEE BLACK CHILDERS: Johnny and
Jerry formed the Heartbreakers.
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David and Syl, for
a while, continued
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on being the New York Dolls.
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Arthur, I think, then
at that time pretty much
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went off on his own.
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[MUSIC - JOHNNY THUNDERS,
"IN COLD BLOOD."
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MAN 1: He was in
several other bands.
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He went to hell--
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he moved to Los Angeles.
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He formed a band
called Killer Kane
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with a former guitar player.
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And when that didn't
work out, then he
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formed another band with
Jerry Nolan of the Dolls
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called Idols.
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And they were around
for about a year or two.
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And then he returned
to New York,
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and he formed another band
called the Corpse Grinders.
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And then he moved
back to Los Angeles,
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and with his wife, Barbara.
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Well I had the unique
experience of being a rock
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star's wife that had no money.
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I was not the pampered pet
that some of these women
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are, living in beautiful
mansions, driving nice cars,
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et cetera, et cetera.
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MAN 2: He was down and
out for a long time.
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MORRISSEY: He was very,
very sad and very,
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very embittered about his the
way his life had turned out.
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He had never earned
money from the Dolls,
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yet anybody who remotely
imitated the Dolls were
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having millions of
dollars thrown up at them.
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I think that was very
difficult for him to live with.
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Especially when, you know,
seeing how successful Johnny
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had become and Jerry and then
David with his alter ego,
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Buster Pointdexter.
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I think it was hard on him.
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I think it was very hard on him.
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MORRISSEY: There was so
much pain in his eyes.
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And I don't think he
really enjoyed his life.
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Because Arthur was a rock
artist, he didn't have much--
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many skills.
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We both were doing
some extra film work.
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A lot of sci-fi
and action adventure.
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I was in "Critters."
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We were in "Spaceballs,"
"Innerspace."
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I had no money.
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We had no friends.
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I was just-- I couldn't
get off the booze.
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I was smoking, also.
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He had seen one of the Dolls--
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I won't say who-- on TV.
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Hey, you don't mind
if I smoke, do you?
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Smoke!
Smoke!
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Just drive!
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[laughs]
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It flipped him out
so much, and hurt him
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so much, that he
went out and drank
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a quart of peppermint schnapps.
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He ripped all my clothes off.
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He started to beat me
with the cat furniture.
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And I left him.
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And that's when he jumped
out the kitchen window.
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I went out the window
thinking that I could do it.
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I didn't.
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WOMAN: He jumped out
of the third story.
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The planter box broke his fall.
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I landed on my head.
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I shattered my kneecap.
301
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And I also shattered my
left elbow, and to this day,
302
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I have a couple of metal
screws hanging out of here.
303
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It took me a year to teach
myself how to walk again.
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In AA, this is called
being at rock bottom.
305
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I was sitting in
bed, and I had a--
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I had a Bible.
307
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But I also had a
TV Guide, and I was
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watching [inaudible] on the TV.
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And it was--
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I happened to notice in--
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in the TV Guide was
an ad for a church.
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And the church was called
The Church of Jesus
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Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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They say, send for
the Book of Mormon.
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It's free.
316
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I thought, well,
I'll make a phone call,
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and they'll mail me a book.
318
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And then maybe I'll read
the book, or maybe I won't.
319
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You know, we'll
see what they got--
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you know, maybe it's
Jehovah's Witnesses
321
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or whatever it might be.
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I don't know what design.
323
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:27,887
So he called the
Book of Mormon people.
324
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Well they don't send it.
325
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They bring it.
326
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Um, two beautiful, uh,
young, blonde missionaries
327
00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,763
came to my door--
328
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Mormon missionaries
came to my door.
329
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And they said, well--
330
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INTERVIEWER: Sister
missionaries?
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Sister-- sister
missionaries, yeah.
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And they said, hello, we're
here to teach you your seven
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basic gospel principle classes.
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I think it was one late
afternoon I decided to give it
335
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a whirl, and sincerely prayed to
find out if the Book of Mormon
336
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was true.
337
00:16:57,384 --> 00:17:00,753
And tell the truth, I received
an answer, pretty much,
338
00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:01,688
right away.
339
00:17:04,491 --> 00:17:08,661
And the only thing I could liken
it to, from my experiences--
340
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from my experiences, was that
it was a bit like a trip.
341
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An LSD trip from the Lord.
342
00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:17,637
Well I think it happens a
little differently to everyone.
343
00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:20,340
Well a lot of people
describe it as a burning.
344
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,443
That they feel a burning
sensation in their chest.
345
00:17:23,543 --> 00:17:26,479
They sense it in a way that
is very difficult to describe.
346
00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:30,049
It was like a drug
experience, but there
347
00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:31,151
were no drugs involved.
348
00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:32,719
When he told me
he said, you're
349
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never gonna believe this, but
I've converted to Mormonism.
350
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[choir singing]
351
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MAN 3: Joining the Mormon
church changed things for him.
352
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MAN 4: The Mormon
thing, I think,
353
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gave him some kind of a purpose.
354
00:17:47,967 --> 00:17:49,669
Because he did have
something to do.
355
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He had to go to these--
356
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he went to his job there.
357
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,244
And, you know, he would
go to the services.
358
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And so-- and he was really,
you know, into doing it.
359
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,718
Oh, you know, where
is Arthur tonight?
360
00:18:05,818 --> 00:18:08,054
And he's like, oh, you know, he
couldn't make it out tonight.
361
00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:09,822
He's got church in the morning.
362
00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,124
And I'm like, church?
363
00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:12,559
Wait, you know, what
are you talking about?
364
00:18:12,659 --> 00:18:15,228
Because, you know, not a
lot of people go to church.
365
00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:18,064
Very paradoxical, when you
think of this guy in lipstick
366
00:18:18,165 --> 00:18:19,699
and fishnet tights
and, you know,
367
00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:23,170
creating chaos around the
world becoming a Mormon.
368
00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:24,637
You know, just kind of--
369
00:18:24,737 --> 00:18:26,939
it'd be like Donny Osmond
becoming a New York Doll.
370
00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:29,142
Nothing to believe
in but nothing.
371
00:18:29,242 --> 00:18:32,145
A lot of heroin, a
lot of drugs, nothing.
372
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I'm always happy
when someone finds
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something they can believe in.
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[MUSIC - THE SHANGRI LAS, "OUT
IN THE STREETS"]
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THE SHANGRI-LAS: [singing] He
don't hang around with the gang
376
00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:52,265
no more.
377
00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:57,804
And he don't do the wild
things that he did before.
378
00:18:57,904 --> 00:18:58,805
Ooh.
379
00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,708
He used to act bad.
380
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:03,876
Used to, but he quit it.
381
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:10,383
It makes me so sad, cause I
know that he did it for me.
382
00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:17,257
And I can see his heart
is out in the street.
383
00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:18,591
It would become
a bit lonely for me
384
00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,461
for the first couple of
years, uh, in church.
385
00:19:21,561 --> 00:19:25,198
Russ Tippett was assigned
as Arthur's home teacher.
386
00:19:25,298 --> 00:19:27,400
In theory, at least,
every member of the Church
387
00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,701
is assigned a home teacher.
388
00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:30,503
Expected to make at
least one visit a month
389
00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:33,773
at the home, sometimes more,
depending on how things are
390
00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,475
and depending on their
level of friendship.
391
00:19:35,575 --> 00:19:37,610
I mean, he on many
times, when we were driving
392
00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:41,013
to and from church,
expressed to me
393
00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:43,149
frustrations with the church.
394
00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:44,751
OK, turning point--
395
00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,220
big turning point, even
in the Mormon church,
396
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,522
for me was-- and
just, even recently--
397
00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:51,591
although I joined in 1989--
398
00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:57,864
was, uh, Mac McGregor saying,
hey, gotta job for you
399
00:19:57,964 --> 00:19:59,299
in the family history center.
400
00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,534
And he says, it's a
calling, if you'd like.
401
00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:03,436
I think it was a little
bit of a shock to him.
402
00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:06,539
And he had his way of
showing his surprise.
403
00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:10,009
Well Arthur Kane might be
a good candidate for working
404
00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:11,344
in the Family History Library.
405
00:20:11,444 --> 00:20:13,212
It might be something
that would interest him
406
00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:15,047
and that he would like to do.
407
00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:18,951
And tell the truth,
it was perfect.
408
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:20,320
And that was perfect.
409
00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:23,823
And tell the truth,
working for Jesus Christ,
410
00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:26,326
and working for the
Church of Jesus Christ
411
00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:29,929
made all the difference
in the world.
412
00:20:30,029 --> 00:20:32,932
[choir music]
413
00:20:37,504 --> 00:20:39,238
EARL SANDERS: He
works with people
414
00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,508
here that come in
and are looking
415
00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:43,576
for their great-great-great
grandmother
416
00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:46,379
or great-great grandfather,
and that's really
417
00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,515
a difficult, difficult thing.
418
00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:51,318
Two weeks after I started
working in the family history
419
00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:53,820
library, I was going
through the, uh,
420
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,924
social security death
records and found out
421
00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:00,393
that my dad had passed away.
422
00:21:00,493 --> 00:21:02,128
My own dad-- I used to say--
423
00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:04,030
I have no brothers and sisters.
424
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:05,898
I had my mom and dad.
425
00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:07,800
My mom passed me when I was 17.
426
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:10,470
About a year or so later, my
dad got married to someone.
427
00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:13,773
Of course, I didn't want
to ever talk to him.
428
00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,708
And that was the end
of my family life.
429
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:17,910
He discovered that
his dad had died.
430
00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,246
And he'd never have found out
about it in any other way,
431
00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:21,781
except he read it there.
432
00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:24,317
It was-- it was such a shock
to him to realize that here,
433
00:21:24,417 --> 00:21:26,185
his own father--
434
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,087
he had to learn about
it by reading it
435
00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:29,456
in the family history center.
436
00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:38,097
SINGER: [singing] A
poor way-fairing man--
437
00:21:38,197 --> 00:21:42,635
Arthur was always
short on finances.
438
00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:46,606
Uh, his rent was paid by
Social Security disability.
439
00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,608
You know, he would run
low even on grocery money.
440
00:21:51,344 --> 00:21:55,415
He tasted success
at a young age
441
00:21:55,515 --> 00:21:59,786
and had his expectations
raised very high.
442
00:21:59,886 --> 00:22:03,556
And, of course, he never
met those expectations
443
00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:06,258
or came anywhere close to
meeting those expectations.
444
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,694
Me and him, we'd go
out to see bands a lot.
445
00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:09,261
And you know, we should
be up there playing.
446
00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:11,097
What's this stuff, man?
447
00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:12,632
You know?
448
00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:13,966
He goes, why are we standing
there looking at these guys?
449
00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:15,502
They don't-- you know,
so he'd get pissed off.
450
00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:16,669
And that was-- he
wasn't even drunk.
451
00:22:16,769 --> 00:22:18,438
So if he was drunk,
forget about it.
452
00:22:18,538 --> 00:22:22,274
That's all he talked
about was the Dolls
453
00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:23,710
and getting back together.
454
00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:25,378
That's all he had on
his mind was getting
455
00:22:25,478 --> 00:22:27,447
the Dolls back together.
456
00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,181
It was, sort of, his life.
457
00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:30,683
He was always
wanting it to happen,
458
00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:36,122
but there was no real, uh,
solid way of going about it.
459
00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:37,524
There was a scripture
read to Arthur
460
00:22:37,624 --> 00:22:40,226
in a home teaching lesson,
and it's in Mormon 9:21
461
00:22:40,326 --> 00:22:41,761
in the Book of Mormon.
462
00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:46,332
"Behold, I say unto you that
whoso believeth in Christ,
463
00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:49,436
doubting nothing
whatsoever, he shall
464
00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:52,439
ask the Father in
the name of Christ,
465
00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:54,507
it shall be granted him.
466
00:22:54,607 --> 00:22:58,277
And this promise
is unto all, even
467
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:00,079
unto the ends of the earth."
468
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,123
Well the Meltdown Festival is
an annual festival in England.
469
00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:17,430
And it's-- um, one person
is appointed, if you like,
470
00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:19,398
the caretaker of the event.
471
00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:21,768
And this year it was me.
472
00:23:21,868 --> 00:23:24,203
And I get an
email from a friend
473
00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:27,540
I hadn't heard of in 30 years.
474
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,445
He says, oh, Arthur, I
understand you're in town--
475
00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:35,915
you'll be in town playing
Morrissey's Meltdown
476
00:23:36,015 --> 00:23:38,417
and at the Royal
Festival this summer.
477
00:23:38,518 --> 00:23:39,586
I didn't know who to call.
478
00:23:39,686 --> 00:23:41,621
I got-- I got several emails.
479
00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:43,656
And I got some emails
from some girls
480
00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:47,527
in France who each had Johnny
Thunders and their own New
481
00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:49,061
York Dolls websites.
482
00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:50,997
But I figured, listen, I'm
going to find out about this.
483
00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:54,901
Let me call the guy who is
mainly responsible, Morrissey.
484
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:58,838
So I had a number for him that
I hadn't called in five years.
485
00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:00,540
It was just his private
number, because I know he
486
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,643
has a place to stay here in LA.
487
00:24:03,743 --> 00:24:05,978
So I called the number,
and I was shocked
488
00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,113
to get him on the phone.
489
00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:10,049
He was shocked that I
was calling him also.
490
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:13,419
He said, please tell
me what's going on.
491
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,187
He was so full of doubts.
492
00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:16,856
Could it possibly be?
493
00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:19,559
David really wants to
do it, play those songs,
494
00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:22,094
we're going to be together,
we're going to rehearse.
495
00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,831
I'm going to go to New York
and rehearse with them.
496
00:24:24,931 --> 00:24:28,334
I said, Arthur,
people love the Dolls
497
00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:30,469
and they want it to
happen, and it's going
498
00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:32,505
to be absolutely wonderful.
499
00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:34,106
Probably right
across the street
500
00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:37,009
from the Houses of Parliament,
you know, and the river Thames.
501
00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:40,179
And Big Ben, it'll be around
the corner and the whole thing.
502
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:41,781
His head was so
full of dreams.
503
00:24:41,881 --> 00:24:46,519
He just started talking about,
you know, stories from 30 years
504
00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:48,855
ago with the Dolls,
his hopes of,
505
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:51,591
you know, what his future
career would be like,
506
00:24:51,691 --> 00:24:52,992
how much he was looking
forward to getting
507
00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:57,263
back together with David
Johansen and Syl Sylvain.
508
00:24:57,363 --> 00:25:00,066
And, uh, you know, he was just--
509
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,400
he was just so happy.
510
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,302
It was-- it was a
beautiful sight to behold.
511
00:25:03,402 --> 00:25:04,837
It's something
that's meant to be.
512
00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:08,040
And to say, all of the
cards are being, uh,
513
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:10,376
you know, laid out
on the table just,
514
00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:14,881
you know, for-- uh, for this--
515
00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,382
for this event to take place.
516
00:25:16,482 --> 00:25:18,851
This historic musical
event to take place.
517
00:25:18,951 --> 00:25:21,387
How can I go from the
Family History Center
518
00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:24,557
to the Royal Albert
Hall in one fell swoop?
519
00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:26,993
INTERVIEWER: Tell me
where we just came from.
520
00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:30,496
Well we just came from
the pawn shop, where I had
521
00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:33,566
gotten a loan on this guitar.
522
00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:39,305
I was in jeopardy of
losing some of my guitars
523
00:25:39,405 --> 00:25:40,873
into the pawn shop,
because I didn't
524
00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:43,776
have the money to even to
pay the interest on the loan.
525
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:49,716
For several years he had been
paying the pawnshop $175 a year
526
00:25:49,816 --> 00:25:54,053
so that they could keep his
guitars, when all he had to do
527
00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:58,390
was pay them $262 to get the
guitars out of the pawnshop.
528
00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:00,392
Well he just looked
at me quizzically,
529
00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:01,894
as if it had never
really occurred
530
00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:04,263
to him that he could do that.
531
00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:06,966
In retrospect, perhaps the
reason it never occurred to him
532
00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:11,070
was because he never
had $262 at any one time
533
00:26:11,170 --> 00:26:12,939
that would have
enabled him to do that.
534
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:13,740
Why not?
535
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,209
Yeah-- There you go, buddy.
536
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:18,477
You're all set.
537
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:19,746
ARTHUR KANE: This
is pretty good.
538
00:26:39,632 --> 00:26:40,767
You know, he was very nervous.
539
00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:42,334
He was excited, but
he was nervous too.
540
00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:43,602
He was really nervous.
541
00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:44,771
INTERVIEWER: What
was he nervous about?
542
00:26:44,871 --> 00:26:45,872
Playing the gig.
543
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:50,376
I mean, he's going
to play a festival.
544
00:26:50,476 --> 00:26:51,811
He hasn't played in--
545
00:26:51,911 --> 00:26:55,147
you know, with these guys
in 30 something years.
546
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,183
And he's going to go to
London and play a festival
547
00:26:57,283 --> 00:27:01,253
in front of 100,000 people.
548
00:27:01,353 --> 00:27:02,689
Pretty scary for a guy like him.
549
00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:09,195
Um, OK.
550
00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:12,799
It doesn't sound like much at
the moment, you know, but--
551
00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:16,468
I asked him, Arthur, are you
nervous about getting together
552
00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:17,970
for the first time
after 30 years?
553
00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:21,874
And his response was, I'm
not nervous about anything.
554
00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:24,443
The only thing I'm nervous about
is this guy they're getting
555
00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:26,045
to replace Johnny Thunders.
556
00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,613
You know, I'm nervous that he's
not going to be able to keep up
557
00:27:27,714 --> 00:27:29,148
with the rest of us.
558
00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:31,851
In the beginning, no one
was sure how Arthur was going
559
00:27:31,951 --> 00:27:33,319
to be, because he hadn't--
560
00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:35,187
I mean, Sylvain's been
playing, David's been playing.
561
00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:37,256
I guess Arthur had been
out of music for a while.
562
00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:40,259
Arthur's always-- they were
always asking, can Arthur play?
563
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,193
Can Arthur play?
564
00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,746
OK, because I play
a bass guitar, which
565
00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:03,015
is a large guitar, I'm not
running around on stage
566
00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:08,154
doing power slides and, you
know, setting a guitar on fire,
567
00:28:08,254 --> 00:28:10,156
and playing it with
my teeth upside down.
568
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,157
This stuff, you know.
569
00:28:11,257 --> 00:28:12,925
It's just not something
bass players do.
570
00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:15,461
Most bass players, you
just get in the groove
571
00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:17,764
and stay there and
keep it together.
572
00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:18,831
INTERVIEWER: I
mean, you guys may
573
00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:20,532
become Arthur Kane groupies.
574
00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:22,701
[laughs] We could, I guess.
575
00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:24,270
We could.
576
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:28,040
I'm a little bit old, but
then I can still be a group,
577
00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:29,008
I guess.
578
00:28:29,108 --> 00:28:31,577
[laughs]
579
00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:33,946
What I am worried about--
580
00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:39,451
the fans partying like it's,
you know, 1999, what have,
581
00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:40,686
you know.
582
00:28:40,787 --> 00:28:44,356
I'm worried that all
the fans are going
583
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:49,695
to view, uh, the Dolls as
being the same party guys we
584
00:28:49,796 --> 00:28:52,331
were when we were 19 years old.
585
00:28:52,431 --> 00:28:56,535
We're-- we'd come out in
the hallway of the hotel,
586
00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:59,038
and there were
people sleeping there
587
00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:02,909
in the hallway after the show.
588
00:29:03,009 --> 00:29:04,376
But not just one or two.
589
00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:08,114
It was 30 or 40.
590
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:13,385
And so when you go on tour
and do that type of stuff--
591
00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:16,956
INTERVIEWER: Are you
worried, Arthur, that--
592
00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:18,224
Fans are all over the place.
593
00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:19,758
INTERVIEWER: --that
could happen again?
594
00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:21,894
Well, I tell the truth,
it should happen again.
595
00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:27,633
It's just it's something
you gotta get used
596
00:29:27,733 --> 00:29:29,468
to it if you're not used to it.
597
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:35,942
Let's say, for 30
years I've been ignored
598
00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:38,510
and been living in
obscurity and been
599
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,546
told that I'm just a loser.
600
00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:48,988
And now, well, we want to get
back to that fan excitement.
601
00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:51,790
But I have to get used to
it, because it's something
602
00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:54,626
I haven't done in 30 years.
603
00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:56,795
DAVID JOHANSEN: OK,
everybody ready?
604
00:29:56,896 --> 00:29:58,998
This is a campy song.
605
00:29:59,098 --> 00:30:00,599
Is everybody ready?
606
00:30:00,699 --> 00:30:02,668
OK, are you rolling?
607
00:30:02,768 --> 00:30:03,936
OK.
608
00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,906
Lonely Planet Boy,
one, two, three, four.
609
00:30:07,006 --> 00:30:10,076
[MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "LONELY
PLANET BOY"]
610
00:30:14,346 --> 00:30:18,450
DAVID JOHANSEN:
[singing] Well it's hard.
611
00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:20,019
Well it's hard.
612
00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:32,164
Well it's a lonely
planet joy when you bring
613
00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:35,167
me some from them other boys.
614
00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:38,737
That's when I'm a
lonely planet boy
615
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:45,311
and I'm trying for your love.
616
00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:47,246
Whoa.
617
00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:50,049
SYLVAIN SYLVAIN: And we came
that first day to rehearsal.
618
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:52,718
Uh, even that first
day I was still like,
619
00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:55,721
I wasn't quite sure what
was going to happen.
620
00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:58,724
Because, you know,
David didn't show up.
621
00:30:58,824 --> 00:31:00,392
It was sort of, like--
622
00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:05,631
you know, it was frustrating
in a way, because we, you know,
623
00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:07,934
we knew where we
stood, me and Arthur.
624
00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,401
And all of a sudden
we have, like,
625
00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:11,570
new guys that we really never
knew or even met before,
626
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:12,871
you know.
627
00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:14,173
And they're telling
us, you know, sort of,
628
00:31:14,273 --> 00:31:15,874
our music better than--
they know our music
629
00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:17,476
better than us, almost.
630
00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:19,011
You know, go, oh--
631
00:31:19,111 --> 00:31:22,448
The Dolls had played together
in, what, almost 30 years.
632
00:31:22,548 --> 00:31:25,952
So, uh, you know nobody
knew if it was going to gel,
633
00:31:26,052 --> 00:31:28,287
or if it was going
to be a disaster.
634
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:31,757
Uh, I'm gonna start
and actually, you know,
635
00:31:31,857 --> 00:31:33,859
[singing] And now you're--
636
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,362
[humming]
637
00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:39,331
This is a very well
known jazz studio.
638
00:31:39,431 --> 00:31:41,867
It's probably the best rehearsal
studio in New York City.
639
00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:44,036
And today we have
been privileged to be
640
00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:45,938
graced by the New York Dolls.
641
00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:48,274
Probably the coolest band
that's ever come here.
642
00:31:48,374 --> 00:31:50,076
[singing] And
now you're wrong.
643
00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:55,047
Ow!
644
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,959
It's the first time I got to
meet these guys in the Dolls.
645
00:32:07,059 --> 00:32:09,828
I've heard about
them, but, you know,
646
00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:11,530
it's pretty exciting
to be working
647
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:12,631
with some of the original guys.
648
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:17,503
C to F, yeah, C to F.
649
00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:18,737
I don't know.
650
00:32:18,837 --> 00:32:19,972
I thought it was E,
but maybe-- in D,
651
00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:21,473
but maybe it's E.
Maybe you're right.
652
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:22,174
I'm not sure.
653
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,576
Does it go to E flat?
654
00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:28,314
Some things are in different
keys, which I guess is maybe
655
00:32:28,414 --> 00:32:30,516
not so easy to do after
you've played a song
656
00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:33,652
or written a song in a
certain key, like Arthur has.
657
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:39,291
Arthur had been out of
music for a while, maybe
658
00:32:39,391 --> 00:32:41,127
played a gig once
every couple years.
659
00:32:41,227 --> 00:32:42,561
Maybe the first few
minutes or something,
660
00:32:42,661 --> 00:32:44,596
he might have been a little
bit flustered and said,
661
00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:45,931
hey, what am I doing here?
662
00:32:46,032 --> 00:32:48,867
But, you know, after a
couple of times through.
663
00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:49,935
MAN 6: With the modulation--
664
00:32:50,036 --> 00:32:51,070
I'm still lost.
665
00:33:09,588 --> 00:33:10,889
DAVID JOHANSEN:
Happens all the time.
666
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,092
Happens all the time.
667
00:33:13,192 --> 00:33:14,893
INTERVIEWER: So David
Johansen wasn't there today.
668
00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,028
ARTHUR KANE: No.
669
00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:20,832
INTERVIEWER: How'd
you feel about that?
670
00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:23,035
ARTHUR KANE: Uh, you know, it
took the pressure off of being
671
00:33:23,135 --> 00:33:25,504
there today, in that sense.
672
00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,207
Over the years he
came to look at David
673
00:33:28,307 --> 00:33:30,709
Johansen as something
of an adversary,
674
00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:31,810
rather than a friend.
675
00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:35,447
And I think that
seen him on TV
676
00:33:35,547 --> 00:33:36,982
and as the alter ego
of Buster Poindexter--
677
00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:38,484
[MUSIC - BUSTER POINDEXTER,
"HOT, HOT, HOT"]
678
00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,719
BUSTER POINDEXTER: [singing]
Party people all around me
679
00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:43,089
feeling hot, hot, hot.
680
00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:46,825
--I think it bothered him
and felt that he was taking
681
00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:51,597
a part of a life
that he-- that Arthur
682
00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:53,165
should have been sharing in.
683
00:33:53,265 --> 00:33:58,537
By the time, uh, they got to
New York for the rehearsals,
684
00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:01,540
that Arthur was expecting a very
chilly reception from David.
685
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,310
Because he had this thing in
his head about David, you know.
686
00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:07,513
And him and David had this
thing going, I don't know what.
687
00:34:07,613 --> 00:34:09,148
And David didn't
want to talk to him,
688
00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:11,083
because he had heard all
this stuff that Arthur
689
00:34:11,183 --> 00:34:12,418
was saying about him.
690
00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:13,885
And Arthur was saying
all these bad things,
691
00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:15,187
saying, oh, these
guys are making money.
692
00:34:15,287 --> 00:34:16,788
They're in cahoots.
693
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:21,660
I-- I talked to the Bishop the
other day about the anxieties.
694
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,630
Especially about David
Johansen, you know, maybe
695
00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:32,838
playing tricks on people or
making it, you know, difficult.
696
00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:35,274
But tell the truth,
I explained who
697
00:34:35,374 --> 00:34:39,278
David Johansen was and about,
you know, all of this stuff.
698
00:34:39,378 --> 00:34:42,681
And the bishop just told me--
he said, Arthur-- he said,
699
00:34:42,781 --> 00:34:44,250
be a good Latter-day Saint.
700
00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:48,720
Do your job and
everything will be fine.
701
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,757
[rehearsal music]
702
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:28,194
[singing] He
don't hang around--
703
00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:36,168
He don't do the things
that he did before.
704
00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:08,867
[singing]
705
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,889
Out in the street.
706
00:37:03,989 --> 00:37:07,092
She don't hang around
with the gang no more.
707
00:37:07,192 --> 00:37:08,494
Out in the street.
708
00:37:08,594 --> 00:37:11,663
She don't hang around
with the gang no more.
709
00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:12,864
Out in the street.
710
00:37:12,964 --> 00:37:16,067
She don't hang around
with the gang no more.
711
00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:18,270
Out in the street.
712
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:26,244
Hey!
713
00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:33,118
I love it, boys.
714
00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,286
It feels good.
It feels good.
715
00:37:34,386 --> 00:37:35,921
I did.
I shaved.
716
00:37:36,021 --> 00:37:38,189
I shaved.
717
00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:41,026
Hey, can we turn this up?
718
00:37:41,126 --> 00:37:41,993
MAN: I'm sure we can.
719
00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:46,598
I didn't know what they were
thinking, but I didn't even--
720
00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,033
I just felt like,
I'm going to go
721
00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:50,802
in and enjoy these guy's
company, because, you know,
722
00:37:50,902 --> 00:37:52,103
I love them.
723
00:37:52,203 --> 00:37:53,439
So--
724
00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:57,008
When I saw Arthur, he
seemed genuinely happy
725
00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:59,678
that he and David were, as
he put it, friends again.
726
00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:02,514
I didn't see any
tension. s You know,
727
00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:04,483
maybe individually they were
a little nervous or something.
728
00:38:04,583 --> 00:38:05,651
But they certainly
didn't show it,
729
00:38:05,751 --> 00:38:08,019
and they just
seemed like old pals
730
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,855
just getting together again.
731
00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,958
Yeah, we kind of picked
up where we left off, right?
732
00:38:13,058 --> 00:38:14,726
Which is the way it should be.
733
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,261
INTERVIEWER: Well
my impression was
734
00:38:16,362 --> 00:38:18,397
that you left off in a
trailer court in Florida
735
00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:19,965
screaming at each other.
- [laughs] Yeah.
736
00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:21,967
INTERVIEWER: I think you came
back in a much better spot.
737
00:38:31,343 --> 00:38:34,780
[david johansen singing]
738
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,081
Oh, how are they
going to do in London?
739
00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,451
Ah, well, we'll wait and see.
740
00:39:12,551 --> 00:39:13,485
I don't really know.
741
00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:15,854
I think the band sounds great.
742
00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,656
Uh, in a lot of cases
I think it sounds,
743
00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:19,057
I mean, better than the records.
744
00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:21,292
I don't know if that's a
good thing or a bad thing.
745
00:39:21,393 --> 00:39:22,628
You know, the
newspapers over there,
746
00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:24,229
if they can't say
something nasty about you,
747
00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:25,296
they can't say anything at all.
748
00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:26,297
I don't know.
749
00:39:26,398 --> 00:39:27,533
I don't even think about it.
750
00:39:27,633 --> 00:39:30,702
Go out there, give
the best you've got,
751
00:39:30,802 --> 00:39:32,538
and that's-- that's all you are.
752
00:39:32,638 --> 00:39:34,640
And why try to be
something you're not?
753
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:37,876
You know, so we'll see how
the show's going to go.
754
00:39:37,976 --> 00:39:41,212
But I'm going in there like,
it's going to be great.
755
00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:42,814
These guys sound
great, you know.
756
00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:46,652
He is absolutely convinced
that he is going to go out
757
00:39:46,752 --> 00:39:49,588
there and perform perfectly.
758
00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:52,858
He is going to do everything
just exactly right.
759
00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:54,660
If there is a weak link,
it is not going to be him.
760
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,194
[MUSIC - THE CLASH, "LONDON
CALLING"]
761
00:39:56,294 --> 00:39:58,930
JOE STRUMMER [singing] London
calling the faraway towns.
762
00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:03,101
Now war is declared
and battle come down.
763
00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:06,438
London calling to
the underworld.
764
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:10,008
Come out of the cupboard,
you boys and girls.
765
00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:11,409
London calling.
766
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:13,779
Now don't look to us.
767
00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:16,347
Phony Beatlemania
has bitten the dust.
768
00:40:16,448 --> 00:40:18,283
This [inaudible].
769
00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:19,250
OK.
770
00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:20,619
I get a phone here.
771
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,120
We got a phone here.
772
00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:27,659
I got a-- connections for
two, um, couple computers
773
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,294
or something like that.
774
00:40:29,394 --> 00:40:32,430
There's another phone
in the bathroom.
775
00:40:32,531 --> 00:40:35,333
And, um, I'm just saying.
776
00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:40,839
There's more stuff in this room
than I have in my apartment.
777
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:43,675
As far as living
comfortably, you know.
778
00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:47,145
I don't have a plug for
three phones-- and a computer
779
00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:48,747
plug-in the system, you know.
780
00:40:48,847 --> 00:40:52,518
Nor-- nor do I have a
beautiful, you know,
781
00:40:52,618 --> 00:40:55,286
mahogany desk or any of
this other stuff, you know.
782
00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:56,622
And it's nice stuff.
783
00:40:56,722 --> 00:41:01,860
So tell truth, I'd be
just as happy to stay
784
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,130
here and look at the Thames for
the rest of my life, you know.
785
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:07,799
The Millennium wheel, and
watch the people go by.
786
00:41:07,899 --> 00:41:11,603
There's nicer furniture here
than in my place at home.
787
00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:13,605
I got a bunch of junk.
788
00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:17,743
[laughs] Makes my place
looks like rinky dink.
789
00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:25,717
We'd like this mahogany, uh, and
the big chairs and the official
790
00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:27,118
looking desk and all the stuff.
791
00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:34,993
[music playing]
792
00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:45,303
I was very lucky
in the first time
793
00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:47,305
that I ever discovered the dolls
794
00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:49,608
MORRISSEY: They appeared
very famously on the Old Grey
795
00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:56,381
Whistle Test, which, in
those very dark days of '73,
796
00:41:56,481 --> 00:41:57,916
was a fantastic vision.
797
00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:01,519
It's because the Old Grey
Whistle Test was predominantly
798
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:04,455
a really boring, really
serious rock show
799
00:42:04,556 --> 00:42:06,057
that I hardly ever watched.
800
00:42:06,157 --> 00:42:08,159
And then all of a sudden the
New York Dolls were on it,
801
00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:10,696
and their appearance on
the Old Grey Whistle Test
802
00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:15,266
had a huge effect on the up
and coming punk generation,
803
00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:16,501
which was my age group.
804
00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:18,236
I, kind of, grew
my hair like Johnny
805
00:42:18,336 --> 00:42:19,905
Thunders's as much as possible.
806
00:42:20,005 --> 00:42:23,408
And used to go around in
very high heeled shoes.
807
00:42:23,508 --> 00:42:25,076
I was 13, and it
was the right time.
808
00:42:25,176 --> 00:42:27,646
And for everybody, there's
an artist that catches you
809
00:42:27,746 --> 00:42:30,682
just at the right time,
an artist or a group,
810
00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:32,383
and you never let them go.
811
00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:34,419
And they can never
disappoint you.
812
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,889
And the Dolls were that for me.
813
00:42:37,989 --> 00:42:39,625
After Ziggy Stardust,
probably the most
814
00:42:39,725 --> 00:42:42,093
influential group of my life--
815
00:42:42,193 --> 00:42:49,868
Here was this wild, totally
tumultuous band just making
816
00:42:49,968 --> 00:42:52,270
this glorious racket,
and they didn't care
817
00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:54,773
about 25 minute drum solos.
818
00:42:54,873 --> 00:42:56,675
And they upset the
presenter of the show, who
819
00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:58,610
set and called it Mock Rock.
820
00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:02,614
Mock Rock.
821
00:43:02,714 --> 00:43:04,616
[laughs] The New York Dolls.
822
00:43:04,716 --> 00:43:05,884
DON LETTS: Boring old fart--
823
00:43:05,984 --> 00:43:07,585
Whispering Bob Harris,
they called him--
824
00:43:07,686 --> 00:43:08,820
was kind of taking the piss.
825
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,155
And he's like-- he
called it Mock Rock.
826
00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:11,957
But when he said that,
what he didn't realize
827
00:43:12,057 --> 00:43:16,094
is the thousands of, kind of,
alienated kids were like, yeah!
828
00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:17,162
This is our band.
829
00:43:17,262 --> 00:43:18,630
You know, he was trying
to put them down,
830
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:20,198
but in fact, he went
like this with them.
831
00:43:20,298 --> 00:43:22,968
Well when they came to
London that first time
832
00:43:23,068 --> 00:43:25,871
with Billy Murcia, they
really were a hair's breath
833
00:43:25,971 --> 00:43:29,574
away from stardom, of achieving
everything they wanted,
834
00:43:29,675 --> 00:43:31,009
of getting a great record deal.
835
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:34,746
There was a good record
deal on the table for them.
836
00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:37,749
Um, it was being set up
the night that Billy died.
837
00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:40,752
And everybody was expecting
the Dolls to walk on the stage,
838
00:43:40,852 --> 00:43:42,387
and of course, they didn't.
839
00:43:42,487 --> 00:43:43,922
There was just suddenly
an announcement
840
00:43:44,022 --> 00:43:48,559
that Billy had died, and
everybody buhrrr, just
841
00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:49,728
collapsed.
842
00:43:49,828 --> 00:43:51,596
There were two
English groupies.
843
00:43:51,697 --> 00:43:53,732
And they said, oh
yes, we remember.
844
00:43:53,832 --> 00:43:56,802
We took Billy back
to our apartment,
845
00:43:56,902 --> 00:44:01,873
and he was very stoned
on Mandrax and alcohol.
846
00:44:01,973 --> 00:44:06,644
And he passed out, so we put
him in a bathtub of cold water,
847
00:44:06,745 --> 00:44:10,581
and we poured hot
coffee down his throat.
848
00:44:10,682 --> 00:44:12,751
Basically what these
two dumb groupies did
849
00:44:12,851 --> 00:44:14,319
was suffocate Billy.
850
00:44:14,419 --> 00:44:18,857
Is it-- it changes from being
this really cute little glam
851
00:44:18,957 --> 00:44:23,461
fairy story, to be becoming
much more hardcore as they
852
00:44:23,561 --> 00:44:25,964
go along and building
up this rep--
853
00:44:26,064 --> 00:44:27,565
this dangerous reputation.
854
00:44:27,665 --> 00:44:31,903
Since then, the replacement
drummer, Jerry Nolan, has died.
855
00:44:32,003 --> 00:44:34,139
Johnny Thunders,
obviously, his died.
856
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,074
This is a blighted band.
857
00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:37,408
It really is.
858
00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:38,977
Isn't that strange.
859
00:44:39,077 --> 00:44:41,847
After all these years of writing
and talking about it, it's--
860
00:44:54,192 --> 00:44:56,828
Had it not been for
heroin, Johnny and Jerry
861
00:44:56,928 --> 00:44:59,330
would have been at the show.
862
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:02,901
[MUSIC PLAYING
863
00:45:34,933 --> 00:45:38,069
Now this is the point in
the proceedings when, um, best
864
00:45:38,169 --> 00:45:39,771
leave your trousers
on, because I'm
865
00:45:39,871 --> 00:45:41,539
gonna take a great deal of
money off of you, again,
866
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:42,841
this afternoon--
867
00:45:42,941 --> 00:45:44,475
We had to go to this banquet.
868
00:45:44,575 --> 00:45:49,747
Like, such a punishing
banquet, I mean, in my opinion.
869
00:45:49,848 --> 00:45:53,084
Arthur was just having
the time of his life.
870
00:45:53,184 --> 00:45:57,956
Arthur looked over at one point
and said, isn't this delicious?
871
00:45:58,056 --> 00:46:01,526
This is the most delicious
luncheon I've ever had.
872
00:46:01,626 --> 00:46:03,694
He was just-- he
was having a blast.
873
00:46:03,795 --> 00:46:05,730
He loved it.
874
00:46:05,831 --> 00:46:06,664
Hello, there, sir.
875
00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:07,899
Sorry to interrupt.
876
00:46:07,999 --> 00:46:11,536
You're Arthur Killer
Kane, aren't you?
877
00:46:11,636 --> 00:46:13,238
I am a great fan or yours.
878
00:46:13,338 --> 00:46:14,973
A great fan of yours.
879
00:46:15,073 --> 00:46:16,141
I came to you
earlier, but I'd just
880
00:46:16,241 --> 00:46:17,508
like to say, thank you so much.
881
00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:18,476
Oh, you're welcome.
882
00:46:18,576 --> 00:46:19,811
Good thinking.
883
00:46:19,911 --> 00:46:20,979
You're beautiful.
884
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:21,779
Ma'am.
885
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,081
Are you enjoying your fish?
886
00:46:23,181 --> 00:46:24,682
To present this
award with Art--
887
00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:28,086
very, very thrilled indeed.
888
00:46:28,186 --> 00:46:30,455
And one of the
seminal rock and roll
889
00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:34,625
acts ever to come out of New
York, the original Jet Boys,
890
00:46:34,725 --> 00:46:37,963
give it up for the
New York Dolls.
891
00:46:38,063 --> 00:46:41,132
[cheers and applause]
892
00:46:46,571 --> 00:46:48,573
It gives me great pleasure.
893
00:46:48,673 --> 00:46:54,846
After he gets this award, he's
gonna go straight to hospital
894
00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:58,483
and sing a couple of tunes
to cheer up the kids.
895
00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:00,852
Let's hear it for Morrissey.
896
00:47:00,952 --> 00:47:04,055
[cheers and applause]
897
00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:25,911
[inaudible] with you
tonight so I won't be.
898
00:47:26,011 --> 00:47:28,679
I'd just like to say,
thank you for this.
899
00:47:28,779 --> 00:47:31,883
I'd like to say, thank
you to the Dolls,
900
00:47:31,983 --> 00:47:33,684
the only reason why
I'm here, really.
901
00:47:33,784 --> 00:47:37,855
Thank you to [inaudible],
and, uh, God bless everybody.
902
00:47:37,956 --> 00:47:39,024
Thank you.
903
00:47:47,832 --> 00:47:51,569
MAN: Have to take a
look at this photo--
904
00:47:51,669 --> 00:47:54,505
All right, we'll
see you later.
905
00:47:54,605 --> 00:47:55,406
Here.
906
00:47:55,506 --> 00:47:56,341
Okay.
907
00:47:56,441 --> 00:47:57,976
Let's go.
908
00:47:58,076 --> 00:48:00,145
Do you want some coffee?
909
00:48:04,115 --> 00:48:05,283
DAVID JOHANSEN: When
I say I'm in love,
910
00:48:05,383 --> 00:48:13,791
you best believe
I'm in love, L-U-V.
911
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,393
MAN 7: One more
time you can go on.
912
00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:16,995
DAVID JOHANSEN: When
I say I'm in love,
913
00:48:17,095 --> 00:48:23,001
you best believe
I'm in love, L-U-V.
914
00:48:23,101 --> 00:48:25,270
We got to see Johnny
Thunders, mostly.
915
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:27,605
Sometimes Jerry Nolan
would be with them.
916
00:48:27,705 --> 00:48:30,575
Sometimes, uh, Sylvain Sylvain.
917
00:48:30,675 --> 00:48:33,478
You know, but, this is the
first time the actual Dolls.
918
00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:42,153
They became a legend because
they burned themselves.
919
00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:43,854
Because, you know,
there's a rock and roll
920
00:48:43,955 --> 00:48:46,424
way of life, drugs, going fast.
921
00:48:46,524 --> 00:48:48,659
This make the legend.
922
00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:50,928
Fan for 20 years.
923
00:48:51,029 --> 00:48:52,163
I'm really looking
forward to this.
924
00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:54,599
My mind is positive
for the show.
925
00:48:54,699 --> 00:48:57,168
Because it's like, you're
going to meet old friend,
926
00:48:57,268 --> 00:48:58,503
you know, from a long time.
927
00:48:58,603 --> 00:49:00,071
So what's happen, happen.
928
00:49:00,171 --> 00:49:05,576
I mean, if-- if your friend
is, uh, more old, or more fat,
929
00:49:05,676 --> 00:49:06,844
this is not a problem.
930
00:49:06,944 --> 00:49:09,747
We are here for the music.
931
00:49:09,847 --> 00:49:11,716
There is the story
around the music,
932
00:49:11,816 --> 00:49:13,884
but basically, it's the music.
933
00:49:13,985 --> 00:49:16,254
If the play good,
it's OK for me.
934
00:49:16,354 --> 00:49:18,389
INTERVIEWER: You know, you
mentioned Arthur Kane--
935
00:49:18,489 --> 00:49:19,090
Yeah.
936
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:20,625
I thought he was dead.
937
00:49:20,725 --> 00:49:22,627
I thought he'd went missing
in action in LA or something
938
00:49:22,727 --> 00:49:24,029
after the riots.
939
00:49:24,129 --> 00:49:25,963
You guys better be
nice to us this time,
940
00:49:26,064 --> 00:49:28,566
or we're not coming back
for another 30 years.
941
00:49:28,666 --> 00:49:30,535
INTERVIEWER: Are you worried
at all about tonight?
942
00:49:30,635 --> 00:49:31,469
No.
943
00:49:31,569 --> 00:49:32,637
INTERVIEWER: How come?
944
00:49:32,737 --> 00:49:34,472
Um, we've done our homework.
945
00:49:34,572 --> 00:49:36,707
We've done our homework,
we put in the time,
946
00:49:36,807 --> 00:49:38,076
we learned the songs.
947
00:49:38,176 --> 00:49:43,048
And now-- and there's a
tremendous spirit that--
948
00:49:43,148 --> 00:49:45,050
at the bottom of
the New York Dolls.
949
00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:49,154
And it's got to do with
me, Syl, and David.
950
00:49:49,254 --> 00:49:50,421
There are three
living New York Dolls,
951
00:49:50,521 --> 00:49:52,190
and there are three
dead New York Dolls.
952
00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:55,060
And so the people who
are dead, they are
953
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,928
with us also in spirit somehow.
954
00:49:58,029 --> 00:49:59,797
This is not-- this
is like me being
955
00:49:59,897 --> 00:50:01,299
in the Family History Center.
956
00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:02,767
We're playing for our fans.
957
00:50:02,867 --> 00:50:04,335
They want us to sound good.
958
00:50:04,435 --> 00:50:08,206
They-- they're encouraging
us to sound good, and they--
959
00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:15,146
they're-- their hopes and
dreams are with us, you know.
960
00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:18,083
So, to me, that
type of audience.
961
00:50:18,183 --> 00:50:19,284
To me that's not even--
962
00:50:19,384 --> 00:50:20,818
that's not an
audience, you know.
963
00:50:20,918 --> 00:50:22,387
It's just a bunch of friends.
964
00:50:22,487 --> 00:50:27,692
I may be a dreamer, but the
dream has come true, you know?
965
00:50:27,792 --> 00:50:30,895
I'm going to ask the people
at the Marriott Essex house,
966
00:50:30,995 --> 00:50:33,864
where did you get this
long jacket thing?
967
00:50:33,964 --> 00:50:35,166
It's pretty hip.
968
00:50:35,266 --> 00:50:36,467
INTERVIEWER: So, now,
explain that again.
969
00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:39,504
You'd like to dress like
one of the bellhops?
970
00:50:39,604 --> 00:50:42,673
Well I don't know if it's
the bellhop or whatever.
971
00:50:42,773 --> 00:50:44,209
But there is someone here--
972
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:45,743
there's someone on the
staff that's wearing
973
00:50:45,843 --> 00:50:48,313
a-- kind of, a
formal long jacket
974
00:50:48,413 --> 00:50:49,847
with little gold epaulets--
975
00:50:49,947 --> 00:50:52,350
The society calls
the Golden Keys.
976
00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:54,285
Has any rock star ever
asked for your coat before?
977
00:50:54,385 --> 00:50:55,920
Uh, no.
First time.
978
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:57,455
First time I've had
this request, yes.
979
00:51:01,126 --> 00:51:02,527
Where is the jacket?
980
00:51:02,627 --> 00:51:04,729
INTERVIEWER: The concierge
gave up his jacket for you.
981
00:51:07,798 --> 00:51:10,435
Well I guess we don't have
any buttons on here, but--
982
00:51:17,608 --> 00:51:18,709
Not bad.
983
00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:19,844
This is not bad.
984
00:51:19,944 --> 00:51:23,948
I would definitely--
985
00:51:24,048 --> 00:51:25,250
You wear what
you want to wear.
986
00:51:25,350 --> 00:51:28,085
- Yeah.
- But you look cool in it.
987
00:51:28,186 --> 00:51:29,687
I think that looked pretty cool.
988
00:51:29,787 --> 00:51:31,722
MAN: Do you want somebody to go
get your leather pants, Arthur?
989
00:51:37,795 --> 00:51:41,699
He was telling me just today
that he's bought some boots,
990
00:51:41,799 --> 00:51:46,571
and he wants to find a long coat
that goes down to his knees.
991
00:51:46,671 --> 00:51:50,941
He wants to convey a
Joseph Smith kind of image.
992
00:51:51,041 --> 00:51:52,477
He said, I have,
kind of, a white ruffly
993
00:51:52,577 --> 00:51:54,812
shirt and black leather pants.
994
00:51:54,912 --> 00:51:57,548
Joseph Smith, Brigham Young,
you know, pick your prophet.
995
00:51:57,648 --> 00:51:59,150
That's who Arthur
wants to be when he's
996
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,385
wants to be when he's on stage.
997
00:52:11,929 --> 00:52:14,232
Um, I may be on time.
998
00:52:14,332 --> 00:52:16,133
But rock n' roll is not on time.
999
00:52:16,234 --> 00:52:17,768
Yeah, go for it.
1000
00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:19,470
Really.
1001
00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:21,071
I just didn't find
any feather bows.
1002
00:52:21,172 --> 00:52:22,006
Oh.
1003
00:52:22,106 --> 00:52:22,907
You guys good?
1004
00:52:23,007 --> 00:52:24,309
You steal my heart.
1005
00:52:24,409 --> 00:52:26,244
NARRATOR: Okay guys, we're
on stage in 20 minutes.
1006
00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:27,678
You look great by the way.
1007
00:52:27,778 --> 00:52:32,217
It's really-- you put
together a fabulous outfit.
1008
00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:33,684
And you know the
pirate-- the whole pirate
1009
00:52:33,784 --> 00:52:39,924
thing, the whole swashbuckling
thing, is very [french]
1010
00:52:40,024 --> 00:52:41,326
Johnny Depp.
1011
00:52:41,426 --> 00:52:44,495
Johnny Depp,
yeah, [inaudible].
1012
00:52:44,595 --> 00:52:46,464
[cheering]
1013
00:52:49,967 --> 00:52:51,302
Right.
1014
00:52:51,402 --> 00:52:53,170
This is going to be a night
you better believe it.
1015
00:52:53,271 --> 00:52:55,740
We have people ready for it.
1016
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,774
Make some noise.
1017
00:53:13,891 --> 00:53:15,726
Is that your guy.
1018
00:53:19,163 --> 00:53:21,532
I mean you're lovely.
1019
00:53:21,632 --> 00:53:24,869
John Smith, and his wonderful
Brigham Young people.
1020
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:53,598
Oh
1021
00:53:53,698 --> 00:53:56,267
I'm going to take
the Mormon tobacco
1022
00:53:56,367 --> 00:53:59,003
assessment blessing program.
1023
00:53:59,103 --> 00:54:02,039
What else do you have to do?
1024
00:54:02,139 --> 00:54:04,675
Yeah they didn't smoke when
Moses went up on the hill.
1025
00:54:13,584 --> 00:54:15,185
Caffeine turns you
into a speed freak.
1026
00:54:15,286 --> 00:54:16,521
KANE: Yeah.
1027
00:54:16,621 --> 00:54:18,423
Nicotine is the most
addictive drug there is.
1028
00:54:18,523 --> 00:54:19,724
KANE: Oh, that's, that's--
1029
00:55:05,436 --> 00:55:06,504
David I'm saying
the prayer today.
1030
00:55:06,604 --> 00:55:07,705
You are?
Okay.
1031
00:55:07,805 --> 00:55:09,273
Yeah.
1032
00:55:09,374 --> 00:55:11,542
Our kind and gracious
Heavenly Father,
1033
00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:14,278
as we bow our heads
before Thee this day,
1034
00:55:14,379 --> 00:55:15,446
we wish to thank Thee.
1035
00:55:15,546 --> 00:55:17,014
It is with gratitude
in our hearts
1036
00:55:17,114 --> 00:55:19,216
that we wish to thank Thee for
the many multiple blessings
1037
00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:21,486
that you bring into our lives.
1038
00:55:21,586 --> 00:55:24,422
All of our lives, and
dear help me father,
1039
00:55:24,522 --> 00:55:27,892
if there was any
band that is sound--
1040
00:55:27,992 --> 00:55:32,430
wishes to thank you for
this great blessing,
1041
00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:33,898
it's the New York Dolls.
1042
00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:39,103
We ask that the spirits of
Johnny, Billy, and Jerry
1043
00:55:39,203 --> 00:55:43,408
be with us this evening, also.
1044
00:55:43,508 --> 00:55:48,413
And dear Heavenly Father,
we ask that we play well.
1045
00:55:48,513 --> 00:55:50,114
That we have fun.
1046
00:55:50,214 --> 00:55:51,749
The audience has fun.
1047
00:55:51,849 --> 00:55:56,921
And that everyone will
have a great time.
1048
00:55:57,021 --> 00:55:59,724
And dear Heavenly
Father, for these things
1049
00:55:59,824 --> 00:56:01,459
we pray in the name
of thy beloved Son
1050
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:02,827
and that's the Jesus Christ.
1051
00:56:02,927 --> 00:56:03,828
Amen.
1052
00:56:03,928 --> 00:56:05,295
ALL: Amen.
1053
00:56:05,396 --> 00:56:06,397
Oh, Arthur.
1054
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,203
Very well put, baby.
1055
00:56:13,303 --> 00:56:14,371
Beautiful.
1056
00:56:17,274 --> 00:56:18,776
Let's hit it!
1057
00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:20,578
And now.
1058
00:56:20,678 --> 00:56:24,549
For a kid from New York,
Ha came to do this,
1059
00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:27,552
change the world with his rock.
1060
00:56:27,652 --> 00:56:30,154
Please welcome the
New York Dolls!
1061
00:56:33,624 --> 00:56:37,728
[MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "JET
BOY FLY"]
1062
00:57:18,503 --> 00:57:21,371
JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Who's
so fly up in the sky?
1063
00:57:21,472 --> 00:57:24,374
Faster than any boy
could ever describe.
1064
00:57:24,475 --> 00:57:26,777
Who has got a love so deep?
1065
00:57:26,877 --> 00:57:29,346
With everything alive, I said
1066
00:57:29,446 --> 00:57:30,948
ALL: (SINGING) Jet boys fly.
1067
00:57:31,048 --> 00:57:31,949
Jet boy's gone.
1068
00:57:32,049 --> 00:57:34,752
Jet boy stole my baby!
1069
00:57:34,852 --> 00:57:37,922
JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Flyin'
around New York City so high
1070
00:57:38,022 --> 00:57:39,924
like he was my baby.
1071
00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,300
This is the kinda
place where no one
1072
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,671
cares what you're living for.
1073
00:57:53,771 --> 00:57:58,342
But Jet boy's so preoccupied,
he don't care about before,
1074
00:57:58,442 --> 00:57:59,343
that's why--
1075
00:57:59,443 --> 00:58:00,878
ALL: (SINGING) Jet boys fly.
1076
00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:02,246
Jet boy's gone.
1077
00:58:02,346 --> 00:58:04,048
Jet boy stole my baby.
1078
00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:07,251
JOHANSEN: (SINGING) He's flyin'
around New York City so high,
1079
00:58:07,351 --> 00:58:09,253
like he was my baby.
1080
00:58:14,925 --> 00:58:16,827
My baby.
1081
00:58:25,269 --> 00:58:29,273
Well I was worried that the
reality would destroy the myth.
1082
00:58:29,373 --> 00:58:32,276
My kids listen to the Dolls,
because typically, they've
1083
00:58:32,376 --> 00:58:33,678
gone through dad's collection.
1084
00:58:33,778 --> 00:58:36,246
And I said I've got
tickets for the Dolls.
1085
00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:38,415
After they got out of school.
1086
00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:40,417
And they said, we
don't want to go.
1087
00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:43,020
And I said, excuse me?
1088
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,088
The New York Dolls?
1089
00:58:44,188 --> 00:58:45,222
You know?
1090
00:58:45,322 --> 00:58:46,423
And they said, no,
because it won't
1091
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,058
be like the poster
on the wall and it
1092
00:58:48,158 --> 00:58:49,193
won't be like the record.
1093
00:58:49,293 --> 00:58:50,895
And as I left tonight,
they refused to come,
1094
00:58:50,995 --> 00:58:53,130
they were playing the record
and looking at the poster.
1095
00:58:53,230 --> 00:58:56,567
But they were afraid,
kind of like me, that I
1096
00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:57,902
was just reliving my youth.
1097
00:58:58,002 --> 00:59:00,304
Because you fear the--
you fear the absolute
1098
00:59:00,404 --> 00:59:01,872
worst in these events.
1099
00:59:01,972 --> 00:59:05,743
And you're convinced that it
can only be disappointing.
1100
00:59:05,843 --> 00:59:07,311
And the past is the past.
1101
00:59:07,411 --> 00:59:08,879
And it's a long time ago.
1102
00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:11,849
And whoever made
that great music
1103
00:59:11,949 --> 00:59:13,183
is now going to look silly.
1104
00:59:16,821 --> 00:59:18,589
But that wasn't the case.
1105
00:59:18,689 --> 00:59:21,258
The guys delivered, 100%.
1106
00:59:21,358 --> 00:59:26,396
They did it absolutely right,
and everybody was just aghast.
1107
00:59:26,496 --> 00:59:27,998
Jet boys fly.
1108
00:59:28,098 --> 00:59:29,366
Jet boy's gone.
1109
00:59:29,466 --> 00:59:31,769
Jet boy stole my baby.
1110
00:59:31,869 --> 00:59:36,907
Flyin' around New York City
so high, like he was my baby.
1111
00:59:40,811 --> 00:59:43,080
I don't think he ever really
believed that he would ever
1112
00:59:43,180 --> 00:59:45,716
be standing on a stage
playing those songs again,
1113
00:59:45,816 --> 00:59:48,018
with David and Sylvain.
1114
00:59:48,118 --> 00:59:49,954
And-- I just--
1115
00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:51,756
watching him
throughout the night,
1116
00:59:51,856 --> 00:59:57,628
I could just see a sense of
bewilderment, sadness, and joy.
1117
00:59:57,728 --> 00:59:59,730
Everything was in his face.
1118
00:59:59,830 --> 01:00:02,266
And I think he was just
praying throughout the night.
1119
01:00:02,366 --> 01:00:07,304
Praying with thanks to somebody
whom he now believed in.
1120
01:00:15,746 --> 01:00:19,249
[MUSIC - BYU SINGERS, "GIVE ME
JESUS"]
1121
01:00:40,070 --> 01:00:44,775
JOHANSEN: When the
Dolls broke up,
1122
01:00:44,875 --> 01:00:47,011
I kind of, like, took a look
at myself, you know, and said,
1123
01:00:47,111 --> 01:00:49,279
you know, you're
such an asshole.
1124
01:00:49,379 --> 01:00:51,448
And I started changing.
1125
01:00:51,548 --> 01:00:57,922
You know, Arthur is such a
beautiful, brilliant, droll,
1126
01:00:58,022 --> 01:00:59,456
but, like, sensitive cat.
1127
01:00:59,556 --> 01:01:00,858
You know.
1128
01:01:00,958 --> 01:01:06,430
His inner core is strong,
man, he can stand firm,
1129
01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:08,232
stand up for himself.
1130
01:01:08,332 --> 01:01:09,800
NARRATOR: David, I
notice that Arthur didn't
1131
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,402
move around a lot on stage.
1132
01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:13,738
No.
1133
01:01:13,838 --> 01:01:16,040
The vibes of bass
actually makes you have--
1134
01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:17,975
I've got to stand still here.
1135
01:01:18,075 --> 01:01:23,080
Because I'm getting such severe
vibrations coming through.
1136
01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:27,017
And It's all down there,
you know, it's in the loin.
1137
01:01:27,117 --> 01:01:29,419
I don't think it's really
about the personality.
1138
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:33,023
I think it's about, how is
God playing through him.
1139
01:01:33,123 --> 01:01:35,926
So if he loves God, he'd
be a great bass player.
1140
01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:39,029
David Johansen, still
a fantastic showman.
1141
01:01:39,129 --> 01:01:42,232
Sylvain is the heart and soul.
1142
01:01:42,332 --> 01:01:44,401
And Arthur truly
remains the only living
1143
01:01:44,501 --> 01:01:46,536
statue in rock n' roll.
1144
01:01:46,636 --> 01:01:48,538
[MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "JET
BOY FLY"]
1145
01:01:48,638 --> 01:01:52,910
JOHANSEN: (SINGING)
Like he was my baby.
1146
01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:58,916
When jet boys fly
you know he's gone.
1147
01:01:59,016 --> 01:02:03,921
He been gone, gone gone gone.
1148
01:02:04,021 --> 01:02:06,523
And he been flyin'.
1149
01:02:06,623 --> 01:02:09,493
He been flyin'.
1150
01:02:09,593 --> 01:02:12,096
He been flyin'.
1151
01:02:12,196 --> 01:02:14,899
Up all night.
1152
01:02:14,999 --> 01:02:20,470
Baby New York City,
Baby so so high.
1153
01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:23,073
It's so so high.
1154
01:02:23,173 --> 01:02:26,476
It's so so high.
1155
01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:29,479
Like he was my baby.
1156
01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:31,882
ALL: (SINGING) Like
he was my baby.
1157
01:02:31,982 --> 01:02:34,852
SYLVAIN: (SINGING)
Like he was my baby.
1158
01:02:34,952 --> 01:02:37,855
ALL: (SINGING) he was my baby.
1159
01:02:37,955 --> 01:02:40,257
SYLVAIN: (SINGING)
Like he was my baby.
1160
01:02:40,357 --> 01:02:42,459
ALL: (SINGING) Like
he was my baby.
1161
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:43,460
My, my baby.
1162
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,862
Like he was my baby.
1163
01:02:44,962 --> 01:02:46,463
My, my baby.
1164
01:02:46,563 --> 01:02:48,065
Like he was my baby.
1165
01:02:48,165 --> 01:02:48,833
Be my baby.
1166
01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:51,435
Like he was my baby.
1167
01:02:51,535 --> 01:02:52,837
Like he was my baby.
1168
01:02:52,937 --> 01:02:54,438
JOHANSEN: (SINGING)
Like he was my baby
1169
01:02:54,538 --> 01:02:55,705
Like he was my baby.
1170
01:02:55,806 --> 01:02:56,841
JOHANSEN: (SINGING)
Like he was my baby.
1171
01:02:56,941 --> 01:02:59,844
Like he was my baby.
1172
01:02:59,944 --> 01:03:02,046
JOHANSEN: (SINGING)
Like he was my baby.
1173
01:03:05,515 --> 01:03:07,417
My baby.
1174
01:03:13,123 --> 01:03:15,792
Jet boy!
1175
01:03:15,893 --> 01:03:16,994
JOHANSEN: Sylvain Sylvain!
1176
01:03:20,898 --> 01:03:21,999
Steve Conte!
1177
01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:28,205
Brian Koonin!
1178
01:03:28,305 --> 01:03:30,374
From The Libertines,
Gary Powell!
1179
01:03:35,279 --> 01:03:39,984
And a miracle of God's
creation, Arthur Killer Kane.
1180
01:03:43,487 --> 01:03:44,955
God bless you, London!
1181
01:04:00,337 --> 01:04:03,307
A rock n' roll band
likes to make people happy.
1182
01:04:03,407 --> 01:04:06,376
It's part of-- it's really,
that's what my-- our job is.
1183
01:04:06,476 --> 01:04:07,677
To make people dance.
1184
01:04:07,777 --> 01:04:08,946
And to get excited.
1185
01:04:09,046 --> 01:04:09,980
It's like show time.
1186
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,515
We make excitement, you know.
1187
01:04:11,615 --> 01:04:14,251
I can remember telling them,
hey gosh, congratulations.
1188
01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:18,322
You played again after 30 years,
and what a great success story.
1189
01:04:18,422 --> 01:04:21,325
And he quickly
corrected me and said,
1190
01:04:21,425 --> 01:04:24,128
no, the success is
that I was able to go
1191
01:04:24,228 --> 01:04:25,729
back with my good friends.
1192
01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:29,033
And go back and mend
fences with David.
1193
01:04:29,133 --> 01:04:32,136
That's-- that's what
was so important about
1194
01:04:32,236 --> 01:04:34,071
getting back together again.
1195
01:04:34,171 --> 01:04:36,606
That was excellent.
1196
01:04:36,706 --> 01:04:37,574
That was excellent.
1197
01:04:37,674 --> 01:04:39,109
That was raw.
1198
01:04:39,209 --> 01:04:39,876
Mhmm.
1199
01:04:39,977 --> 01:04:41,045
Real raw.
1200
01:04:51,555 --> 01:04:52,822
Oh, God.
1201
01:04:52,923 --> 01:04:55,792
Oh I love you so much.
1202
01:04:55,892 --> 01:04:57,327
Oh, you make me so happy.
1203
01:05:00,697 --> 01:05:02,432
- I love Arthur.
- Arthur.
1204
01:05:02,532 --> 01:05:04,368
Arthur.
1205
01:05:04,468 --> 01:05:05,970
Such good bass.
1206
01:05:06,070 --> 01:05:10,440
You know so on, so
on, such sexual bass.
1207
01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:12,342
Arthur.
1208
01:05:12,442 --> 01:05:13,277
The Killer.
1209
01:05:13,377 --> 01:05:14,044
The Killer.
1210
01:05:14,144 --> 01:05:15,946
No, you're not killing.
1211
01:05:16,046 --> 01:05:19,683
[interposing voices]
1212
01:05:19,783 --> 01:05:21,085
Call me Arthur.
1213
01:05:21,185 --> 01:05:25,022
[interposing voices]
1214
01:05:25,122 --> 01:05:26,390
- She just wanted to say hi.
- Hi.
1215
01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:27,557
Hi, how are you.
1216
01:05:27,657 --> 01:05:29,559
Arthur has aged very well.
1217
01:05:29,659 --> 01:05:31,561
It's not his fault, his hair.
1218
01:05:31,661 --> 01:05:33,030
You guys were fantastic.
1219
01:05:33,130 --> 01:05:37,167
One of the best
things I've ever seen.
1220
01:05:37,267 --> 01:05:38,302
Doing this evening, man.
1221
01:05:38,402 --> 01:05:39,303
New shoes.
1222
01:05:42,572 --> 01:05:45,209
I love those shoes.
1223
01:05:45,309 --> 01:05:47,111
Up on the stage, did
you see me smiling at you?
1224
01:05:47,211 --> 01:05:48,412
We were going, Arthur, Arthur.
1225
01:06:05,996 --> 01:06:07,564
And I went to him later.
1226
01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:11,101
And I said absolutely
fantastic playing.
1227
01:06:11,201 --> 01:06:13,137
And his eyes were welling.
1228
01:06:13,237 --> 01:06:16,006
GELDOF: He looks just at,
home you know, it's the truth.
1229
01:06:16,106 --> 01:06:19,876
He looks, like, he looked
totally easy on the stage.
1230
01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,645
I could do without
the leather pants.
1231
01:06:21,745 --> 01:06:23,013
A bit of a mistake.
1232
01:06:23,113 --> 01:06:26,183
You know, and the Diamante
tie look, you know.
1233
01:06:26,283 --> 01:06:28,152
But that's probably
the Mormon influence.
1234
01:06:28,252 --> 01:06:29,753
He shouldn't go back
to that library.
1235
01:06:29,853 --> 01:06:34,624
He was he was telling me that
he was a bit sad, that on Monday
1236
01:06:34,724 --> 01:06:37,827
morning, he'd put on a suit, and
he'd put on the tie and shirt,
1237
01:06:37,927 --> 01:06:38,962
and get to get on the bus.
1238
01:06:39,063 --> 01:06:40,497
There's room for both.
1239
01:06:40,597 --> 01:06:42,999
And, you know, I think he
should put on his Diamante tie
1240
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:44,334
and get on the band bus.
1241
01:06:54,078 --> 01:06:58,948
Some [inaudible]
wants to look at this.
1242
01:06:59,049 --> 01:07:01,351
Plug for--
1243
01:07:01,451 --> 01:07:03,120
NARRATOR: It's a
modern-day lunacy.
1244
01:07:05,955 --> 01:07:10,560
TIPPETT: My concern was that
he would come back from London.
1245
01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:14,498
He'd just come back to his
apartment, here in Los Angeles,
1246
01:07:14,598 --> 01:07:17,834
and his life would be the
same as it was before.
1247
01:07:17,934 --> 01:07:20,404
And, it occurred
to me, that that
1248
01:07:20,504 --> 01:07:21,771
could be very painful for him.
1249
01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:29,379
There's just so
much noise out here.
1250
01:07:29,479 --> 01:07:31,115
Okay, this is a song
I would normally
1251
01:07:31,215 --> 01:07:34,918
play for my inspirational
message, inside the Family
1252
01:07:35,018 --> 01:07:38,122
History Center, for
my fellow workers
1253
01:07:38,222 --> 01:07:40,857
in the Family History Center.
1254
01:07:40,957 --> 01:07:43,827
This song is called
Love One Another.
1255
01:08:02,846 --> 01:08:05,081
TIPPETT: He seemed to have
jet lag for several days,
1256
01:08:05,182 --> 01:08:06,283
which wasn't surprising.
1257
01:08:06,383 --> 01:08:07,884
NARRATOR: He did
say he was tired
1258
01:08:07,984 --> 01:08:12,156
and felt like he had picked up
a cold while he was over there.
1259
01:08:14,491 --> 01:08:16,960
NARRATOR: He didn't
know he was sick.
1260
01:08:17,060 --> 01:08:22,065
TIPPETT: On July 13th,
he said he needed
1261
01:08:22,166 --> 01:08:23,300
to go to the emergency room.
1262
01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:33,277
Amen.
1263
01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:37,681
NEWSCAST: And
pioneering glam rock
1264
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,583
bass player Arthur Kane,
of the New York Dolls,
1265
01:08:39,683 --> 01:08:41,218
died in Los Angeles
Tuesday night,
1266
01:08:41,318 --> 01:08:43,220
according to billboard.com.
1267
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,755
The group's manager
says Kane had leukemia.
1268
01:08:45,855 --> 01:08:47,257
He was 55.
1269
01:08:47,357 --> 01:08:49,459
Kane is the fourth New
York Doll to pass away,
1270
01:08:49,559 --> 01:08:51,461
including guitarist
Johnny Thunder, who died
1271
01:08:51,561 --> 01:09:06,142
of a drug overdose in 1991.
1272
01:09:06,243 --> 01:09:09,646
It's a tragedy, because
we lost a really sweet man.
1273
01:09:09,746 --> 01:09:10,380
And a good friend.
1274
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,516
And a very good friend.
1275
01:09:12,616 --> 01:09:16,253
And-- but it is a blessing
that he passed so rapidly,
1276
01:09:16,353 --> 01:09:17,521
without having to suffer.
1277
01:09:17,621 --> 01:09:20,290
Without losing all
of his hair and going
1278
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:23,793
through all of the treatments,
and the tremendous amount
1279
01:09:23,893 --> 01:09:25,995
of medical bills and things.
1280
01:09:26,095 --> 01:09:28,365
So, it was a blessing as well.
1281
01:09:28,465 --> 01:09:32,669
If a life must end,
as Arthur's did,
1282
01:09:32,769 --> 01:09:36,373
it was a beautiful
way for him to go.
1283
01:09:36,473 --> 01:09:40,344
People who have really
been in the war, but then
1284
01:09:40,444 --> 01:09:44,248
came out the other end as,
you know, for lack of a better
1285
01:09:44,348 --> 01:09:47,417
word, spiritual beings.
1286
01:09:47,517 --> 01:09:50,487
That's the greatest kind of
person in the world, to me.
1287
01:09:53,056 --> 01:09:56,860
Don't have that big tall guy
to call on when you need help.
1288
01:09:59,463 --> 01:10:03,300
But, we're trying to
carry on without him.
1289
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,834
[MUSIC - THE SMITHS,
"PLEASE, PLEASE,
1290
01:10:04,934 --> 01:10:10,640
PLEASE LET ME GET WHAT I WANT]
Good times, for a change.
1291
01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:15,679
See the luck I've had can
make a good man turn back.
1292
01:10:18,515 --> 01:10:24,454
So please, please,
please, let me, let me,
1293
01:10:24,554 --> 01:10:31,428
let me, let me get
what I want this time.
1294
01:10:39,436 --> 01:10:42,706
Haven't had a dream
in a long time.
1295
01:10:45,342 --> 01:10:49,846
See the life I've had
can make a good man bad.
1296
01:10:52,616 --> 01:11:01,525
So, for once in my life,
let me get what I want.
1297
01:11:01,625 --> 01:11:05,329
Lord knows, it would
be the first time.
1298
01:11:09,198 --> 01:11:13,269
Lord knows it would
be the first time.
1299
01:11:55,845 --> 01:12:01,918
JOHANSEN: The miracle of God's
creation, Arthur Killer Kane.
1300
01:12:02,018 --> 01:12:18,668
[MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS,
"PRIVATE WORLD"] Oh,
1301
01:12:18,768 --> 01:12:20,069
break down.
1302
01:12:27,176 --> 01:12:31,047
To a private world.
1303
01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:34,851
To a private world.
1304
01:12:34,951 --> 01:12:38,455
Well I just lost a love, she
drowned or something else.
1305
01:12:38,555 --> 01:12:42,058
'Cause I get cool and lonely
feeling sorry for myself.
1306
01:12:42,158 --> 01:12:45,429
I need a private world.
1307
01:12:45,529 --> 01:12:49,433
A private world.
1308
01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:53,437
Oh you call that driving
and you see us dream.
1309
01:12:53,537 --> 01:12:57,040
I call it laughing trying
hard not to scream.
1310
01:12:57,140 --> 01:13:00,410
A private world.
1311
01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:04,414
A private world.
1312
01:13:04,514 --> 01:13:07,817
The joint start shaking,
its ready to crumble.
1313
01:13:07,917 --> 01:13:11,421
The boys are duking,
looking for a rumble.
1314
01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:14,991
I need a private world.
1315
01:13:15,091 --> 01:13:18,194
JOHANSEN: Two, three,
1316
01:13:18,294 --> 01:13:32,375
[MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "A POOR
WAYFARING MAN OF GRIEF]
1317
01:13:32,476 --> 01:13:39,382
JOHANSEN: (SINGING) A poor
wayfaring man of grief,
1318
01:13:39,483 --> 01:13:43,653
Hath often passed me on my way.
1319
01:13:46,456 --> 01:13:50,694
Who sued so humbly for relief.
1320
01:13:53,563 --> 01:13:58,401
That I could never answer nay.
1321
01:13:58,502 --> 01:14:05,174
I had not power to ask
his name, whither he went,
1322
01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:06,776
or whence he came.
1323
01:14:10,046 --> 01:14:17,120
Yet there was
something in his eye
1324
01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:21,190
That one my love I know not why.
1325
01:14:29,899 --> 01:14:36,272
Once when my scanty meal
was spread he entered,
1326
01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:40,243
not a word was spake.
1327
01:14:40,343 --> 01:14:44,514
Just perishing
for want of bread.
1328
01:14:47,416 --> 01:14:51,788
I gave him all he
blessed it and brake.
1329
01:14:51,888 --> 01:14:56,926
He ate but gave me part again.
1330
01:14:57,026 --> 01:15:00,897
Mine was an angel's
portion then.
1331
01:15:03,767 --> 01:15:14,844
For while I fed in eager haste,
The crust was mana to my taste.
1332
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:27,691
In prison I saw him
next, condemned.
1333
01:15:30,226 --> 01:15:34,030
To me a traitor's doom at morn.
1334
01:15:36,733 --> 01:15:45,208
The tide of lying tongues
I stemmed, And honored
1335
01:15:45,308 --> 01:15:48,578
him midst shame and scorn.
1336
01:15:48,678 --> 01:15:53,416
My friendship's
utmost zeal to try,
1337
01:15:53,516 --> 01:15:57,921
He asked if I, for
him, would die.
1338
01:16:00,657 --> 01:16:06,963
The flesh was weak,
my blood ran chill.
1339
01:16:07,063 --> 01:16:12,101
But my free spirit
cried, I will.
1340
01:16:20,009 --> 01:16:28,752
Then in a moment, to
my view, the stranger
1341
01:16:28,852 --> 01:16:31,220
started from disguise.
1342
01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:38,862
The tokens in his hands, I knew.
1343
01:16:41,665 --> 01:16:46,435
The Saviour stood
before my eyes.
1344
01:16:46,535 --> 01:16:50,874
He spake, and my
poor name he named.
1345
01:16:50,974 --> 01:16:54,878
Of me, though has
not been ashamed.
1346
01:16:58,181 --> 01:17:02,686
These deeds shall
they memorial be.
1347
01:17:05,188 --> 01:17:11,027
Fear not, thou
didst them unto me.
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