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Be grateful
for this beautiful home that we have.
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Let's continue to take care of it
and to nurture it
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so that it can grow
more and more beautiful in his grace.
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No, we're not going to be victims.
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If you're going to come at us
with the big artillery,
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we're going to play your game.
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And that was unsettling to a lot of us,
but it was also...
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Brought a sense of security
in some bizarre way.
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I didn't have a gun here
until they bombed our hotel.
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I didn't even have a single weapon here.
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But I don't believe
in turning the other cheek.
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We learned how
to shoot a Smith & Wesson.
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And I came to recognize that if I
truly went into a meditative stance,
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I could hit the target.
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And that it was all about my breath
and it was all about my awareness.
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I had already had experiencewith guns because my dad had a gun.
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We used to go and shoot rabbits.And Sheela was very pleased about that.
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She used to run around telling everybody,
"Oh, Shanti B is a really good shot."
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And when we showed them
how good training we had...
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they were shocked.
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The people of Oregonknew then that we were armed,
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that we could use our weapons well...
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and that we were prepared to use
those weapons if push came to shove.
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In the northern partof Oregon, there used to be
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a little town called Antelope.
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Yesterday the voters in Antelope decided
to change the town's name to "Rajneesh."
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It is a political victory for followers
of the Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh.
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Change has been coming,and today Antelope awoke to a red dawn.
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They changed the name
to the city of Rajneesh.
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They renamed everything, of course.They have to put their brand on it.
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They had a majority of the residents
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and held an election
and took over the city council.
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A guy that had been on the council
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and was fightingthe Rajneeshees, Don Smith...
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came to me and said, "We can't get anybodyto put their name on the ballot.
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We know they're going
to win this election,
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but, you know,
we don't want to just hand it to them.
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Could we put your name on the ballot?
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Would you volunteer, you know,
to get your ass kicked?"
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And I said, "Okay. Why not?"
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You know, I didn't care.
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The Rajneeshees, they didn't wantto seem like they took over everything.
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So, they voted three of theirs
and two of ours.
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They voted me and this other guy.
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Well, soon as the other guy saw that,
well, he was out of town in like two days.
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He was gone.
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There is now only onenon-Rajneeshee on Antelope's city council.
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They didn't scare me.
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Sometimes, you know,
keep your enemies close.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You learn a lot more being nice. Um...
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You learn a lot more being nice.
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Apparently, everything the Rajneeshees did
to take over this small town was legal.
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The question is, was it right?
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The new Rajneesh-controlled city councilpassed an ordinance
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reserving this weed-covered city park
for nude sunbathing.
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There were
a lot of weird things that happened.
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At night up here, you can hear
everything that goes on
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because there's no background noise.
It's not like a city.
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And you could hear them going all night.
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It's like you're in the same room
with them, you know?
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And my aunt was not pleased with that,
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sharing her bedroom with these people,
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listening to their goings on,
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which they were, they were going on.
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And, uh...
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I couldn't see them,but could hear them.
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And it was the noises and things were...
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It sounded like animals.
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There is a sense of lustiness
and sexual obsession there
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that I have never known of anywhere.
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You can hear people having orgasmicexperiences all day and all night.
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They weren't somebodyyou wanted to have for neighbors.
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I had gone to help my cousin
move cattle to the summer range
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and came home and my wife said,
"They've got guns up there."
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I said, "No way! They're...
They claim they're nonviolent people."
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They've sat up therejust above my field all summer long,
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armed with what appearto be semi-automatic rifles,
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and about half of us feel
that before this is over,
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some of us are going to be killed.
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They watched our housefrom across the river
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with some kind of
an automatic assault weapon.
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They sure weren't BB guns.
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They had a police force in Antelope
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that patrolled the streets all night long,
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cars with lights on them
and the lights would be flashing
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going through town
while people were trying to sleep.
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They called it the Peace Force.
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And it was not a Peace Force.
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It was a harassment force.
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They met legal requirementsto make these people cops,
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and they made them cops.
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They were there with guns.
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When you came into town,
they'd be stationed at either end of it.
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The occupying force had landed.
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As we talked to the fewnon-Rajneeshee residents who remain,
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our car was followed, our movements noted
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by both markedand unmarked Rajneeshee police cars.
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One longtime local resident frustratedat what was happening to his town
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started repeatedly picketing.
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Jim was a little hotheaded...
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and he made a sign...
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and he trolled back and forth in front
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of the Rajneeshee establishmentthere in town.
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And about nine o'clock that night,
they came in and arrested him.
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Rajneeshee police arrested him
for, quote, "menacing"
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and took him to Wasco County jail.
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They had to handcuff him in front because
he couldn't get his arms behind him,
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he was so arthritic.
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That kind of changed it for me.
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We knew Antelope was shot at that point.
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It's just throwing gas on the fire almost.
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Gun salesin neighboring towns have skyrocketed.
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People call in wanting to know prices
of guns and what we have
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for more of a protection weapon
than a hunting weapon,
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with a lot of older people calling,
worried, scared.
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Sheela was holding Antelope...
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- Hostage. And they said so.
- ...hostage.
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The Bhagwan's top aidesays the Rajneeshees will leave Antelope
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if the state grants a zoning changepermitting the Rajneeshees
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to set up their own city on their ranch.
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We have never had interest in Antelope
before and now, except for our survival.
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We want our city to be developed,
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and if this city goes,
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then of course
we will have Rajneeshpuram.
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Either way, we are the winner.
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There's a lot of people that wouldhave loved to have shot Sheela.
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I'd like to have choked her to death
a couple times myself.
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That woman is the closest thing to Hitler
that I've ever seen in my life,
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and I have seen people
coming out of Buchenwald.
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I've seen them come out of Dachau.
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The only thing she don't have yet
is the ovens.
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As you can see, the relationship between
the Rajneeshees and the townspeople
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is going downhill fast,
and there is a possibility
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that it will come
to a very big crescendo very soon.
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Last July,
the 40 residents of Antelope learned
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they were about to acquire
some new neighbors,
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several hundred followers
of the spiritual leader,
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Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh.
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First we're gonna hear
from the Rajneesh Foundation.
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And it's a fascinating story. Would you
welcome its president, Ma Anand Sheela.
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Media is expensive and one should not miss
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an opportunity for free publicity.
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When we come back,
we'll talk with the spokesperson
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for the Rajneeshee sect, Ma Anand Sheela.
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- Ma Anand Sheela.
- Ma Anand Sheela.
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From Washington, Crossfire.
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She's the personal secretary
of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
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who is the head of this...
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- Religion.
- Religion. Thank you.
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Bhagwan told me
to be very, very strong in the media.
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I had to be provocative.
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I had to provoke.
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Isn't your leader the free sex guru?
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Free sex? We don't charge for it,
if you meant that.
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Right.
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We are the only community
which has no venereal diseases,
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no crime, no drugs, no alcoholism.
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And I'll tell you about one more thing,
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that we are the only people
who enjoy sex fully.
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"How could you do that? How could you...?"
I said, "Don't tell me. I'm doing my job."
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That's it.
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Sheela, whatever your plans are,
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we don't want the Rajneeshees,
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we don't want
the orange people in our town.
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What can I say? Tough titties.
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It was that fearlessness...
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was a very special quality.
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No, I'm not running for cover, mister.
I don't run for cover.
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And person like you
make me run for cover?
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- Oh, that's a joke.
- Well...
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She learned to be outrageous.
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But there was a part of her nature
that could adapt to that really easily.
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You seem to be enjoying it,
almost giving them your finger.
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Merv Griffin called andthey asked if I would go on the program.
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I said, "Sheela's gotten
way more publicity than she deserves."
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And she was extremely arrogant
and she was off the maps, I tell you.
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The Bhagwan has
from four to 13 Rolls Royces.
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- Let me add it is 17 Rolls Royces.
- Seventeen. Wonderful.
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On the second,
there will be 20 Rolls Royces.
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Everybody was like,
"Who is this guy? And who is she?"
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- That was one thing, but let me--
- You are full of shit.
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You don't know anything about--
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In that case,
we'll cut the microphone off right now.
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Thank you very much,
all of you, for joining us.
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Good shot, Sheela. You're up
to your good old-- Same old tricks.
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These people are distorting and twisting
the laws to use to their own advantage.
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- If it's legal doesn't mean it's right.
- Oh, you.
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All right, you got one in, Sheela.
You got your dirty word in.
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You get one per show.
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Certainly,the more press we got,
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the more books we sold internationally.
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And so seekers around the world
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would be interested
in not just the mundane story,
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but who is Rajneesh.
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Everywhere Bhagwan was spreading.
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The Bhagwan commissioned
the most loyal of his supporters
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to go to the four corners of the earth
and establish Buddha fields.
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In Europe, that meant establishing
Rajneesh centers from Copenhagen to Italy
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and from England to West Berlin.
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Almost everywhere in the world,Bhagwan's communes were functioning.
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We had communes in India,
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Australia had a number of communes.
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Italy many communes.
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In Germany,
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Amsterdam,
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Switzerland.
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Portugal had a commune.
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And all communes were self-supporting
with different activities,
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like construction companies,
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bistros, discos.
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Official number working Sannyasinswere about 30,000.
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When you include Bhagwan's followerswho are not Sannyas...
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500,000.
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And we were not afraid to show his vision
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in physical world.
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The new commune is now global.
It is a global community.
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There are thousands and thousandsand thousands of Sannyasins.
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And in Europe,believers work year-round
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for the pleasure of a trip to Oregonin July for the annual festival.
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Out of this money, we can go all
to Rajneeshpuram, to the celebration,
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to the festival, to see Bhagwan.
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It's the high point of the year.
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World festival was a magical time...
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for all Sannyasins.
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It was an event.
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People would mark their calendars,
save their money and come.
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Buses were moving back and forth,
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filled with Sannyasins
from all over the world.
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Is the Rajneesh movement growing in Japan?
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Yeah, sure.
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Many, many people
are taking sannyas in Tokyo.
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In just three years, this has become
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one of Oregon's
biggest summer tourist events.
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Yet for most of these people,
this is a visit to a state of mind.
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- What brings you here?- Adventure, love.
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I want to dance.I want to celebrate. I want to sing.
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My heart wants to just sing.
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Anywhere you go,
people were just celebrating.
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You have a beer tent, you got
a gambling casino, and you got a disco
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and you've got foodand people are buying stuff.
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The world festivalswere making lots of money.
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I mean, it was just
an explosion of activity.
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Rajneesh is an avowed capitalist.
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The commune boutiques offera variety of ways to see the light,
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materially speaking, or to surroundthe inner self with scanty spirituality.
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Yes, Rajneesh seemsto have his mug on everything.
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And the Rajneesheesare making money, lots of it.
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Rajneesh Foundation International:19 million.
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Rajneesh Investment Corporation:31 million.
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And finally, there is the commune itself:assets 15 million.
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The amount of moneythat came in during those festivals
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really sustained us
and allowed us to grow.
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But all of this is no laughing matter
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down the road in tiny Antelope.
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Here in the town of Antelope,
they're not celebrating this weekend.
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There are no parades here,no town picnics,
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and the only fireworks are verbal ones.
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We've got a concentration camp up there.
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It's not a small, rural, quiet place
to retire anymore.
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It's dark and damp on the eve
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of the first world celebrationof Rajneesh.
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You didn't make a special requestfor this weather for the festival?
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You bet I did.
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I think every person in town is--
Was hoping that it rained.
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Through our celebration, they get jealous.
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- You think so?
- Absolutely.
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Look at it, which rancher is
as successful as this community?
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They're jealous.
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Only one other message I'd like to say,
and that's to the people...
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that would like to destroy this city
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because they're jealous and ignorant
and stupid: up yours.
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For me, the whole energy was like a feast.
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A feast for the eyes,a feast for the ears,
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a feast for smile.
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It was a feast of colors.
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There were 15,000 lovers of Bhagwan.
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Many of them were going to see Bhagwanfirst time in their life.
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And Bhagwanin his beautiful clothes and jewelry...
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presented like a king.
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He would get the energy moving.
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"Come on, give me more than that.
That's all you got?"
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And he'd get 10,000 people
really rocking it.
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He was a rock star.
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And I was like,
"You want to rock and roll?"
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Because he went like this, you know?
And I went, "Okay."
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So, I was in his face
and I was doing it back to him.
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The crowd was going absolutely nuts.
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I also saw that he was a man
and he was a human and he wanted to play
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and that he wanted to play with me.
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And that was my best moment.
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There's really something special about
Bhagwan, and it's hard to put into words.
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We're just all gladto have him here physically.
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Always when I see him, I must cry.
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So, it's so... emotionally for me.
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And yeah, I love him.
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There are fireworks and parades
going on inside of us.
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It was an experience to live.
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You have no idea.
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You can never capture it again.
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Well, I'll tell you this story,
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and I shouldn't probably tell you.
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I've never told it in public.
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They didn't know it, you know,
when I was spying on them.
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We used to have a little city dump.
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So, I was just takingthe garbage up there one day,
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and there in the garbageI could see stuff they'd thrown in.
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A poster.
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I thought,
"Oh, that'd be kind of cool to have."
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So I just jumped right in the dump.
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Went over thereand grabbed the poster and...
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there's a lot of other stuff.
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I started looking at it,
thought, "Oh, this is pretty interesting."
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And find these things in there,
says, "Shred this.
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Shred this document after the meeting."
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And I went through that stuff
for quite a while,
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taking all I could grab.
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Had my buddy watching lookout,
see if anybody is coming up the hill.
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And there were
incriminating things in them.
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Internal committee minutesabout what was going on at the ranch.
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There were instructions
about censoring the mail...
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making sure everything
is read before it goes out.
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There were documentsabout arranged marriages.
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I mean, there was a vast array of crap.
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And they had a big leak
and they didn't even know it.
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At that point, you know, I was not dealing
with people that I hadn't known for years,
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because I didn't trust anybody.
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Dave Frohnmayer, he was attorney general.I'd known him for years,
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being at the University of Oregon,and we'd known each other for a long time.
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Told him, "Let's get together."
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And I slipped him
some of these minutes from their meetings.
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Well, that was the first time
that their smokescreen was penetrated.
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They'd got caught lying
about what was going on out there.
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In mid-1983, Dave Frohnmayer
made his first appearance in this play.
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He was the attorney general
of the state of Oregon.
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The Frohnmayer family,
we have been close to for my entire life.
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The Frohnmayers and the Bowermans,we got together every year.
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And I knew Dave from the time he was born.
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Dave was a remarkable guy.
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He was a Harvard undergrad,Rhodes Scholar, Boalt Hall law.
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Ran for attorney general in 1980,Dave got elected.
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He was uniquely suited for the job.
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I have the objective of building
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the finest Department of Justice
in the United States of America.
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I can't think
that Oregon deserves any less.
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You need integrity because
of the importance of that position
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to carry through the mission
of the Constitution
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and laws of the state of Oregon.
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Frankly, you need courage because
many decisions you make are unpopular.
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When Dave became attorneygeneral, my father and I were writing.
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I could fire off a letter to Dave and say,
"Hey, here's what's happening."
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We were doing our best to communicate
to Dave that we had a problem here.
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Maybe as a favor to our family,
Dave's investigation began.
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And once they got the bone in their teeth,
they weren't going to let go of it.
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Rajneeshpuram's strongest legal challenge
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comes from the officeof the state attorney general.
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Dave Frohnmayer filed suit on behalfof Oregon residents claiming the city
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violates the constitutional separationof church and state.
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When you have a religion
exercising the power of a government,
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then you have an intermingling
of church and state
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which is such
a fundamental civil liberties issue
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that it has to be addressed
and we couldn't avoid it.
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There was a question
of whether the city of Rajneeshpuram
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was a legitimate government entity
or whether it was a government entity
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that was effectively
controlled by a religion.
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The problem that we identified
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was that the two were inextricably linked.
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The city of Rajneeshpuram were allowed
an official law enforcement agency...
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and they were allowed accessto the law enforcement data system,
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criminal information and backgrounds.
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It is the most sensitive information the
government possessed about its citizens.
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And to carry weapons that private citizenswouldn't have been allowed to carry.
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And there were questions about the school.
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Is the public elementary school in the
town of Rajneesh truly a public school?
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There's been argument over this
for some time now.
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Can teachers wear religious garbwhen they are teaching in a public school?
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The schoolis permeated with religious symbolism.
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It did not look, sound
or feel like a public school.
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Our case was based on the fact
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that the religionwas controlling the government,
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that the Bhagwan was decidingwho would be the mayor,
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the city councilors were selectedby either Sheela or the Bhagwan,
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and then they staged elections,but it was all a show.
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And the city existed purely
for appearances.
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This is a fundamental issue
which is so serious
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that it must be resolved
in our judgment by a court.
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We were aware that what we decided
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was going to have profound ramifications
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and could potentially affect
many individuals' constitutional rights.
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I remember vividly being struck
by the fact that this was big stuff.
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This was-- This was important.
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And I remember thinking,
"I sure hope we're right."
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The AG is full of crap.
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One sentence sums up the whole thing:
the AG...
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is not acting as an attorney general,
he's acting as a politician.
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I can't find words harsh enough
in my vocabulary,
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certainly that I could say
in front of you people,
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that would describe
my feeling towards a man...
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that would use politics and legalities to
try and throw people out of their homes.
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Frohnmayer writes an opinion,
and what he asks
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is to have the city
declared null and void...
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because its very existence violates
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the Establishment Clause
of the Constitution,
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which says that Congress shall
make no law establishing a religion.
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It requires a careful analysis...
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because they're two sidesof the same coin, right?
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Freedom of religion...
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and avoiding an establishment.
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There's a lot of establishment cases.
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Usually, they're about some town
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put a crèche scene
on the courthouse steps.
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Some teacher allowed students to say
a prayer before the beginning of class.
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Essentially, always
the order is don't do that.
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You never had a city destroyed
because of the Establishment Clause.
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You correct the problem.
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So, it's injunctive.
You say stop doing that.
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Cities that havea majority of a particular religion
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are very, very common.
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If you look at our history...
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If you look at Catholics in Boston,
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were a huge majorityand totally ran the government.
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Utah, Mormonism, that's a whole state.
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But certainly in the cityof Salt Lake City, even today...
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nobody tells those peoplethat they can't have a city.
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Nobody thinks that they can't have a city.
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Nobody ever even raised the issue,
until us.
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To have it be something as significant
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as destroying the community
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of a religious minority...
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so that it cannot exist...
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which affects
fundamental rights of assembly...
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speech, religion, association,
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powerfully impacting on those rights
in a negative way.
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I mean, screw religious freedom, right?
Do we really care?
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00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:18,668
Let's have a simple test...
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where the government
can just do what it wants.
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And minority religions
we don't really care much about.
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By now, Rajneeshpuram had been licensed
as a police force.
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Everybody knew that their loyalty
was not to their badge,
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their loyalty was to Bhagwan.
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So, they had semi-automatic weapons,tear gas grenades.
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You had the mayor of Rajneeshpuramthreatening civil war.
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What I see here today as I look out
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is the beginning of a civil war
in this county.
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00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:52,744
If that's what you want, fine.
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00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:56,039
So, yeah, it was a huge problem.
447
00:31:57,416 --> 00:32:00,836
We were not out to get the leadershipjust to get the leadership.
448
00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:05,715
We were looking for the architects
responsible for this very broad scheme
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of deceit
against the United States government.
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That's the only way
that was going to stop.
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It was very clear that all agencies,
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Thousand Friends of Oregon,
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Frohnmayer,
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Governor Atiyeh,
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and rest of the politicians
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were making difficult for our existence.
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The governorhas made no secret of his feelings
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about the followersof Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh
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and has said repeatedly that, personally,he'd rather they just leave.
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00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:45,505
Oregon legislature introduced three bills
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that would repeal the city charters inboth Rajneeshpuram and Rajneesh-Antelope.
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00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:53,722
Legislation was a tool
to destroy the community.
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00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:57,642
My personal favorite
is the initiative petition,
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"Expel the Rajneesh cult from Oregon."
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I really wonder what they had in mind.
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00:33:05,609 --> 00:33:10,197
I'm both shocked and amused
by the stupidity of Oregon politicians.
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00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:16,036
Oregon is developing an international
reputation as a backwater of bigotry.
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00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:21,166
There was a task force
that had been organized,
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addressing the Rajneesh problem...
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and how to deal with it.
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On the afternoon of September 26,
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a whole variety of stateand federal officials converged
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in a conference room in Salem.
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They were there to discussthe Rajneeshees,
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but the press was not welcome.
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00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:42,103
The meeting took placebehind closed doors.
477
00:33:42,646 --> 00:33:45,607
Well, when's the last time
you heard about a problem,
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a Jewish problem, a Rajneesh problem?
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00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,196
What kind of nonsense is this?
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00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,490
What's going on in this state
is what I'd like to know.
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It used to be the legislature
was called a circus.
482
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,289
Now I call it a zoo because at least
in a circus the animals are trained.
483
00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,792
We had every branch,
484
00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:07,087
federal, state, county, local,
485
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:10,632
organized and united.
486
00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:15,428
Your attorney general,
your county commissioners,
487
00:34:16,096 --> 00:34:20,725
have made many policies
behind closed doors against Rajneeshees.
488
00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:25,438
Go to them now.
Don't come to me about reconciliation.
489
00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:30,277
For somebody like Sheela,she was driven
490
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,407
out of a real sense that the community
was going to be destroyed.
491
00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:37,909
Those were accurate perceptions.
492
00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:39,786
Persecution must stop.
493
00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:44,332
Persecution of all people, all race,
494
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,168
all religion must stop.
495
00:34:47,961 --> 00:34:51,131
Unless this state is ready to do that,
496
00:34:52,382 --> 00:34:54,217
Rajneeshees are not going to stop.
497
00:34:56,344 --> 00:35:01,641
Sheela, over a period of time,
she became the focus.
498
00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:05,562
And it was almost by-- By accident.
499
00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:10,358
Bhagwan stepped back into his house,
so we didn't see him.
500
00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:12,694
And Sheela stepped forward.
501
00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:16,239
And so with time, I just became
more and more devoted to her.
502
00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:22,495
I was-- My devotion to Bhagwan
kind of swapped over,
503
00:35:22,579 --> 00:35:25,248
and it included not just Bhagwan,
but also Sheela.
504
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:31,421
You never know, Sheela is never, um...
505
00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:35,800
She's very spontaneous.
She's extremely spontaneous.
506
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,345
And she moves with the moods.
507
00:35:38,428 --> 00:35:42,057
She moves with the wind.
She moves with the time of the day.
508
00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:45,435
I mean, it's funny, you--
509
00:35:45,602 --> 00:35:49,481
All of you see me in one position
or another as a spokesperson,
510
00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:51,149
but you don't know me personally.
511
00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,985
Because personally,
people can't figure me out.
512
00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:58,948
I'm not the same person you think I am.
513
00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:04,037
Jesus Grove was Sheela's house.
514
00:36:05,455 --> 00:36:08,166
As time went on,it was added to and added to.
515
00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:13,296
It became a very big living complex.
516
00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,217
And Sheela moved into her house
517
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:21,304
people who were of use to her.
518
00:36:22,389 --> 00:36:26,893
But if you lived in Jesus Grove,
you were at Sheela's beck and call.
519
00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:31,898
Jesus Grove was
kind of where the important people
520
00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:35,652
that were making important decisions
were hanging out.
521
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,154
Call them Sheela's lieutenants.
522
00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:44,327
She had this insular group
that hung on every word
523
00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:48,206
because she would go up
and meet with Bhagwan every night.
524
00:36:48,748 --> 00:36:50,792
There'sone appointment Sheela never breaks,
525
00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:52,585
her nightly meeting with Rajneesh.
526
00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,588
No one is permitted to accompany herwhen she meets with Bhagwan.
527
00:36:55,672 --> 00:36:57,507
They reportedly discuss religious matters
528
00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:59,843
and other affairsthat concern Rajneeshpuram.
529
00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:05,306
And it became
a kind of a ritual in the evening
530
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:08,435
when Sheela came backfrom being with Bhagwan,
531
00:37:08,518 --> 00:37:12,188
and she would tell us stories,
if you like.
532
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,194
She would tell usabout what Bhagwan was saying,
533
00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:21,656
what he wanted of us,what we were going to do next,
534
00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:23,575
why we were going to do it.
535
00:37:24,868 --> 00:37:27,370
And I was swept away.
536
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:31,541
It was beyond my wildest dreams
to ever imagine
537
00:37:31,624 --> 00:37:36,045
that I would fill one of these positions
to be so close to Bhagwan.
538
00:37:37,422 --> 00:37:42,260
At some point, I was woken in the night.Eleven o'clock, I was fast asleep in bed
539
00:37:42,343 --> 00:37:47,599
and told to come down to Jesus Groveright away and to bring my wax.
540
00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:51,811
And Sheela wanted me to wax her legs,so I did.
541
00:37:56,232 --> 00:38:00,278
And not long after that,
Sheela moved me into her house.
542
00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:08,453
We confronted situations always as a unit.
543
00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:11,289
How can we solve the problem?
544
00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:15,502
The more creative we were,
545
00:38:15,585 --> 00:38:20,465
the more destructive the politicians
were against us.
546
00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:27,222
It was their hatethat forced us to take these steps
547
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:31,518
for self-preservation,
self-protection, self-survival.
548
00:38:33,186 --> 00:38:35,396
I understand
that you have an announcement
549
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,481
that is in the offing.
550
00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:39,442
- That's correct.
- That everyone is waiting patiently for.
551
00:38:39,526 --> 00:38:45,114
Um... Can you maybe give us some idea
of when we should expect to hear that?
552
00:38:45,198 --> 00:38:47,575
Everybody is waiting patiently.
I would say the same thing.
553
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,285
You need to wait patiently too.
554
00:38:51,746 --> 00:38:54,374
Any indication of the magnitude
of that announcement?
555
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:55,458
It's going to be...
556
00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,922
probably the first project
world has ever carried out.
557
00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:08,346
- Could you repeat that? I'm sorry...
- It's probably one of the first project
558
00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:11,432
that anybody in the world
will carry out, is us.
559
00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,060
It will be a world project.
560
00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,529
People started meeting in Sheela's room,
561
00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:28,241
and a scheme developed
of bringing people in.
562
00:39:34,247 --> 00:39:36,291
What's the best time
to come here tomorrow?
563
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,794
What you'd have to do is we have tickets
right here, right now for the bus.
564
00:39:44,132 --> 00:39:48,928
I was down in Phoenix and in San Diego,
565
00:39:49,012 --> 00:39:51,472
going around to homeless shelters
566
00:39:51,556 --> 00:39:54,434
and standing with an open doorto a Greyhound bus,
567
00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:56,269
saying, "Come join us."
568
00:39:57,270 --> 00:40:00,064
There's a beautiful city in Oregon
which is blossoming.
569
00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:04,319
And it's happening and it's a city that's
not happening anywhere else in the world.
570
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:05,862
- Ain't no drugs there, right?
- No drugs.
571
00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:09,824
- You can't drink?
- Well, you get two beers a day.
572
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,492
- Two beers a day.
- Yeah.
573
00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,828
All aboard, Rajneeshpuram!
574
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:21,920
Didn't matter whether you werea woman or what color your skin was,
575
00:40:22,003 --> 00:40:25,423
whether you're a vet,any person were invited.
576
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,842
- Where have you been?
- All over the place.
577
00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:31,346
New York, Chicago, um... Texas.
578
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:35,016
The east coast, west coast,
south coast, and everywhere.
579
00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:40,855
I would say, "The bus is here.
If you want to come, load up."
580
00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:46,110
I decided to go.
I'm sick of living on streets.
581
00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:49,197
It's all I've been doingfor the past six months.
582
00:40:57,038 --> 00:41:02,043
So, what evolvesis a steady stream of people
583
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:05,004
coming from cities all over America.
584
00:41:06,756 --> 00:41:09,008
Political battles and court cases.
585
00:41:09,092 --> 00:41:11,886
It hasn't exactly been a stateof nirvana in the state of Oregon
586
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:15,264
since an Indian guru and his followerssettled there in 1981.
587
00:41:17,225 --> 00:41:20,937
The latest controversy is a program torecruit the down and out, the homeless.
588
00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,313
Where we getting tickets at?
589
00:41:22,397 --> 00:41:25,191
Just what happens
to the homeless people after they arrive
590
00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:28,653
at the Rajneesh complex here
remains a Rajneesh secret.
591
00:41:54,137 --> 00:41:56,764
We were taking care of these people.
592
00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,226
These rejects from the society
593
00:42:01,102 --> 00:42:03,730
we had invited to be our guest.
594
00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:07,191
In India, a guest comes,
595
00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:10,570
they can be a form of God.
596
00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:15,908
What we did with them is to clean them up,
597
00:42:15,992 --> 00:42:19,495
clean their open wounds,or give them free dental work,
598
00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:21,706
check their eyes.
599
00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:26,419
We gave them back their self-respect.
600
00:42:31,674 --> 00:42:35,887
Up till now, society had abused
these people all their lifetime,
601
00:42:36,763 --> 00:42:38,765
and I wanted to create a situation
602
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,768
the world has never experienced before.
603
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:56,574
Jesus Santos finished a six-year term
604
00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:59,368
at the Colorado State Penitentiarylast month.
605
00:42:59,452 --> 00:43:02,371
It provides a sense of community,
606
00:43:02,455 --> 00:43:05,333
and it provides me
with people who care for me.
607
00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:07,460
That's something I haven't had in my life.
608
00:43:07,543 --> 00:43:09,796
I think that's something
not only people need,
609
00:43:09,879 --> 00:43:11,881
but I think it's the world in general.
610
00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:15,760
I'm just a city boy,you know, but this is, you know,
611
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,471
what I always wanted to do
since I was little, you know?
612
00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:20,264
Beautiful.
613
00:43:20,348 --> 00:43:24,018
I love it. Definitely. No doubt.
614
00:43:24,769 --> 00:43:27,063
I don't know,there's really nothing else out there.
615
00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:29,190
You know, it's really beautiful here.
616
00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:34,779
And I decided to follow Bhagwan
because it just...
617
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,118
It was a feeling, you know? It's like
a feeling everybody gets, I guess.
618
00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:41,869
What's so beautiful about it here?
619
00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:44,747
Well, you don't have no crime.
620
00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:49,127
You don't have to worry about walking down
the street and getting stabbed or shot.
621
00:43:49,961 --> 00:43:50,795
You know?
622
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:54,757
It's hard to explain.
623
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,638
And I saw some dramatic changes
in those people
624
00:44:00,721 --> 00:44:02,348
in a very short period of time.
625
00:44:02,431 --> 00:44:03,850
It sort of blew me away.
626
00:44:03,933 --> 00:44:06,894
They just changed. They opened up.
627
00:44:07,395 --> 00:44:11,190
They actually startedto discover themselves spiritually.
628
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,112
So, all the press is here, Isabel?
629
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:21,450
People that you call them street people,
630
00:44:21,534 --> 00:44:24,453
people who have been accused
that they have been derelicts
631
00:44:24,537 --> 00:44:28,583
or criminals or winos,
that they are not that
632
00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:31,502
and they are respected human beings.
633
00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:36,924
You offer them respect
and they respect you ten times more.
634
00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:40,845
The recruiting goes on in every major city
in the United States.
635
00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:43,723
Those efforts are gettingplenty of nationwide attention.
636
00:44:43,806 --> 00:44:47,143
In Washington D.C., the Rajneeshees
continue to recruit street people
637
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:50,146
with the promise of food and shelter
and a free bus ride to Oregon.
638
00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:52,648
The homeless continue to pour
into Rajneeshpuram.
639
00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:56,277
...continue to pour into Oregon.
A spokesperson at Rancho Rajneesh
640
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,155
says five more busloads of the homelessarrived there today.
641
00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:03,367
Thirty-five hundredhomeless to Rajneeshpuram in 39 days.
642
00:45:03,451 --> 00:45:06,495
By sometime next week,the homeless may outnumber the Rajneeshees
643
00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:07,622
by two to one.
644
00:45:08,122 --> 00:45:11,542
All of them will be partof the new Rajneeshee community,
645
00:45:11,626 --> 00:45:14,545
united in a single trusting conviction,
646
00:45:14,629 --> 00:45:17,882
they believe they are no longer homeless.
647
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:21,052
America has lost its heart.
648
00:45:21,135 --> 00:45:24,347
Its heart is right here
in Rajneeshpuram now. It's not out there.
649
00:45:25,097 --> 00:45:27,683
Rajneeshpuram is now saying to America,
650
00:45:27,767 --> 00:45:32,897
"Bring us your tired, your poor,
your huddled masses yearning to be free."
651
00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:35,441
And we won't humiliate them
on Ellis Island.
652
00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:37,985
We won't put them in factories
in Chicago and New York
653
00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:40,738
and make them work 12-hour days
like slaves.
654
00:45:40,821 --> 00:45:43,824
We'll treat them with respect.
We'll give them beautiful homes.
655
00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:47,703
We'll give them beautiful clothes to wear.
We'll give them a new life.
656
00:45:48,371 --> 00:45:52,833
And that's what I've got.
If anything is-- Phew.
657
00:45:52,917 --> 00:45:55,753
If anything is American and democratic,
it's Rajneeshpuram.
658
00:45:55,836 --> 00:45:59,924
It's not the outside world.
This is home. I love it. Thank you.
659
00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:12,895
Antelope started to change
when the ranch doubled in size.
660
00:46:12,979 --> 00:46:19,318
You know, they had hundreds or thousands
of homeless people and nobody knew why.
661
00:46:19,819 --> 00:46:22,029
Two weeks ago
street people began arriving
662
00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:23,781
at the city of Rajneeshpuram,
663
00:46:23,864 --> 00:46:27,368
and today the question on the minds
of many Wasco County residents is,
664
00:46:27,451 --> 00:46:28,577
"What's going on?"
665
00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:31,247
I don't know what they might do.
The unknown is what we fear.
666
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:35,876
And, it's... I just don't know
what they'll do next.
667
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,255
It was kind of a mystery,
but people just thought they were crazy.
668
00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:42,633
These homeless peoplewere just kind of showing up.
669
00:46:45,219 --> 00:46:49,390
And they'd be sleepingin vacant lots or people's garages
670
00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,475
or under a car or something.
671
00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,814
It was a magnet
for crazy people, you know?
672
00:46:56,897 --> 00:47:00,818
And people had no idea, you know,
what they were really doing.
673
00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:04,989
The offer is one a lot of Wasco County
residents think is too good to be true.
674
00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:08,034
They're asking themselves why their
Rajneeshee neighbors to the south
675
00:47:08,117 --> 00:47:10,161
are suddenly so generous and open
with their city.
676
00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:13,414
Six thousand of them
from all over the country.
677
00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:17,293
Homeless people brought in here
and we're going to give you food,
678
00:47:17,376 --> 00:47:19,503
we're going to give you a roof
over your head,
679
00:47:20,379 --> 00:47:23,174
and all you have to do is vote.
680
00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:32,308
The elections of '84
felt like a conspiracy
681
00:47:32,391 --> 00:47:34,351
to shut down Rajneeshpuram.
682
00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:38,105
Politicians were planning to elect
683
00:47:38,189 --> 00:47:41,859
Republican anti-Rajneeshee commission.
684
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:47,281
So, Bhagwan told Sheela
it was time to take over Wasco County.
685
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,953
We were to have three Rajneesh
representatives on Wasco County,
686
00:47:53,954 --> 00:47:56,040
and he was pushing her really hard.
687
00:47:56,123 --> 00:48:00,169
At that point,
if we didn't protect ourselves
688
00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:06,425
with what law allows
to bring these homeless people,
689
00:48:08,052 --> 00:48:11,013
uh... it would be stupid on our part.
690
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,435
Tonight for the first time,
the Rajneeshees are openly admitting
691
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:18,521
that they plan
to enter their own candidates
692
00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:21,649
for the two Wasco County
commissioners' seats up for grabs
693
00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:22,983
in the November election.
694
00:48:23,067 --> 00:48:27,488
After weeks of denials,Ma Anand Sheela has now admitted publicly
695
00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:31,826
that the Rajneeshees' goalis to take over Wasco County.
696
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:35,329
She says the takeoveris for her community's self-protection.
697
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:37,081
So you want to control Wasco County?
698
00:48:37,164 --> 00:48:38,624
Absolutely, now I do.
699
00:48:38,707 --> 00:48:40,876
And I will be the first person
to campaign.
700
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,170
It needs to be at a boiling point,
701
00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:47,133
so once and for all it can evaporate.
702
00:48:49,051 --> 00:48:52,721
But a boiling point
implies someone is going to get burned.
703
00:48:53,055 --> 00:48:54,515
So what?
704
00:48:54,598 --> 00:49:00,271
For humanity, a little burn here or there,
it's worth it.
705
00:49:00,354 --> 00:49:03,691
The shipments of homeless continue
to arrive here every day.
706
00:49:03,774 --> 00:49:08,279
So, just how many Rajneesh votes will becast may not be known until Election Day.
707
00:49:08,737 --> 00:49:09,864
All veterans!
708
00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,909
All veterans to the desk, please!
709
00:49:15,578 --> 00:49:16,996
This is a Rajneeshee videotape
710
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:18,414
of last night's community meeting.
711
00:49:18,497 --> 00:49:22,626
Rajneeshees say 7,000 were there,Rajneeshees and street people alike.
712
00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:27,423
We have come home,
and we have done the right thing.
713
00:49:27,506 --> 00:49:30,509
The master has brought us home
to protect us
714
00:49:30,593 --> 00:49:35,472
from the neo-colonial,
imperialistic, technocratic society
715
00:49:35,556 --> 00:49:37,433
of the United States of aggression.
716
00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:42,146
There's a lot of people out there
that are supposedly Christians.
717
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,610
That have not given us
this opportunity that you've given us.
718
00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:50,362
They told me they wouldn't have me.
719
00:49:50,571 --> 00:49:53,949
We got a home. Let's keep it.
720
00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:57,661
And the ones that don't want it,
get the hell out!
721
00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:07,338
The fact that they had brought
all these people in,
722
00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:10,299
6,000 of them from all over the country,
723
00:50:10,382 --> 00:50:13,677
suddenly opened eyes
to the fact that, okay,
724
00:50:13,761 --> 00:50:16,388
they took over Antelope,
that's Antelope's problem.
725
00:50:16,889 --> 00:50:19,225
They're going to take over Wasco County.
726
00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:22,686
That might be a little bigger deal
than just Wasco County's problem
727
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,483
because they get the county,
are they going to get the state next?
728
00:50:27,816 --> 00:50:31,779
Good evening. People in Wasco County met
tonight trying to fight the Rajneeshees.
729
00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:35,282
It was the biggest ever
anti-Rajneesh rally, about 2,000 people.
730
00:50:35,366 --> 00:50:37,868
They are angry, frustrated, and fearful.
731
00:50:37,952 --> 00:50:41,580
They see recent developmentsat Rajneeshpuram as a threat to them,
732
00:50:41,664 --> 00:50:43,040
their friends, their state.
733
00:50:43,123 --> 00:50:44,917
There were so many people here tonight
734
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,962
they spilled out into the hallwaysof The Dalles High School.
735
00:50:48,045 --> 00:50:52,132
Inside speakers told the peopleof Wasco County why they should be voting
736
00:50:52,216 --> 00:50:54,051
and why they should be outraged.
737
00:50:55,844 --> 00:50:58,764
They brought these people to take over
738
00:50:58,847 --> 00:51:01,809
the central part of the state of Oregon.
739
00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:09,149
Now, I want to tell you folks that there
is no way that we can stop them,
740
00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:15,239
when you have counties that only
have 570 and 800 voters.
741
00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:19,702
I think it was a done deal.
742
00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:23,580
If all 6,000 of them had voted as a block,
they couldn't beat them.
743
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:27,126
When they've made statements
that within the next 15 years,
744
00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:29,336
before the year 2000,
they'll control of the state.
745
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:30,754
I think that's a very great threat.
746
00:51:30,838 --> 00:51:34,550
And the way our voting laws are, I'm--
I'm scared about it really.
747
00:51:35,134 --> 00:51:38,012
If they can fieldsix or 7,000 votes,
748
00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:40,556
they'll come on strong
with some write-in candidate.
749
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:44,018
They're a group of people
that don't like to be defeated.
750
00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:48,981
Is it possible forthe Rajneeshees to take over Wasco County?
751
00:51:49,565 --> 00:51:52,985
They could very easily
take over Wasco County, yes.
752
00:51:55,237 --> 00:51:59,283
We became concerned working
with the secretary of state
753
00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:03,245
that we needed to take steps
to make sure that only people
754
00:52:03,329 --> 00:52:06,373
who were legitimate voters in Oregon,
755
00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:11,754
people who were in Oregon and intended
to be residents of Oregon would vote.
756
00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:15,132
How is it legal for people
to step off a bus and literally vote?
757
00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:19,136
As long as you're a U.S. citizen,
18 years of age on election day,
758
00:52:19,219 --> 00:52:23,057
and a resident of the state of Oregon
for 20 days, you can register to vote.
759
00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:27,936
There were very few tools available
to us or the secretary of state
760
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:33,317
because Oregon then and now
was in the forefront of easy voting.
761
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,111
Let's assume
that your worst fears are correct,
762
00:52:36,195 --> 00:52:38,697
that all these people
are now going to go and vote.
763
00:52:38,781 --> 00:52:42,242
As I said before, you helped pass the kind
of legislation that makes it possible.
764
00:52:42,326 --> 00:52:44,203
Maybe they don't like you,
they vote you out of office,
765
00:52:44,286 --> 00:52:45,412
that's the American way, isn't it?
766
00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:48,832
It's ironic that in looking
through the statutes now
767
00:52:48,916 --> 00:52:50,751
and watching buses roll by,
768
00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:54,254
Oregon law, at this point,
will not prohibit that.
769
00:52:54,588 --> 00:52:58,592
American way is that Constitution
should be upheld
770
00:52:58,675 --> 00:53:01,595
and anybody who wants to vote
should be allowed to vote.
771
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:04,681
Today it wasRepublican Donna Zajonc on the offensive.
772
00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:07,518
Not only does she wantto challenge voter registration,
773
00:53:07,601 --> 00:53:11,647
but she wants the attorney general to seeif allowing recently arrived street people
774
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:14,358
to vote in Wasco County,might be unconstitutional.
775
00:53:16,568 --> 00:53:19,154
Anyone who violates election laws
will be prosecuted
776
00:53:19,238 --> 00:53:22,366
if it comes to our attention,
and we're taking every step possible
777
00:53:22,449 --> 00:53:26,453
to ensure that we'll be
in a position to prosecute successfully.
778
00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:29,748
There's no crime.
That's what I said, there is no crime.
779
00:53:30,249 --> 00:53:33,544
It is residing with intent to vote.
780
00:53:34,837 --> 00:53:36,213
I mean, it's simply no crime.
781
00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:38,799
Sure. They moved in,
they were brought there,
782
00:53:38,882 --> 00:53:41,510
they were sympathetic
to the community, of course,
783
00:53:41,927 --> 00:53:43,303
so they wanted to vote.
784
00:53:43,387 --> 00:53:47,015
As soon as these people came,
maybe they haven't voted in years,
785
00:53:47,099 --> 00:53:50,644
but when they heard their right to vote
was being threatened, they all said,
786
00:53:50,727 --> 00:53:52,104
"Hell with it, I'm gonna vote."
787
00:53:52,187 --> 00:53:55,441
They try to say I'm a street person,
a derelict. They try to take my rights.
788
00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:59,862
That's my birthright, I can vote. I come
here and they try to say I can't vote.
789
00:53:59,945 --> 00:54:01,655
I'm going to go down there and vote.
790
00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:03,240
We're Americans here!
791
00:54:04,283 --> 00:54:06,285
And all...
792
00:54:06,368 --> 00:54:11,039
And all of us have a right,
a birthright to vote.
793
00:54:14,293 --> 00:54:16,628
Next Monday,the anti-Rajneesh group
794
00:54:16,712 --> 00:54:19,673
plans to march on Salemto ask Governor Atiyeh
795
00:54:19,756 --> 00:54:23,218
to declare a state of emergencybecause of Rajneesh activities.
796
00:54:23,302 --> 00:54:29,516
Our America is being destructed,
is being sold by people
797
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,645
who do not fear God
and who care only about money.
798
00:54:33,729 --> 00:54:34,730
Amen!
799
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:39,401
But I want to tell you,
the freedom that we have
800
00:54:39,902 --> 00:54:42,196
was not paved with money.
801
00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:44,698
It was the blood of the pioneers.
802
00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:04,218
We now call upon the governor
to proclaim that Rajneeshpuram
803
00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:08,680
be put in its proper place
as a non-existent city
804
00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:11,058
and to disarm this cult's army now.
805
00:55:15,062 --> 00:55:18,524
You tell your governors,
you tell your attorney general
806
00:55:18,607 --> 00:55:21,652
and all your bigoted pigs outside,
807
00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:24,238
they touch any of our people,
808
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:28,033
I will have 15 of their heads,
and I mean business.
809
00:55:31,787 --> 00:55:37,000
I tell you the county is so fucking
bigoted, it deserves to be taken over.
810
00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:00,941
A major developmentinvolving the Rajneeshees
811
00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,484
and voting in Wasco County.
812
00:56:04,945 --> 00:56:07,906
- Good evening, everybody, I'm Kim Singer.
- And I'm Gary Hill.
813
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:10,993
Today, the Rajneeshees took a bus loadof homeless people to The Dalles
814
00:56:11,076 --> 00:56:13,078
to register them in Wasco County to vote.
815
00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:20,085
But they were in for a surprise.
816
00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:43,066
Rajneeshee street peoplearrived in The Dalles
817
00:56:43,150 --> 00:56:44,443
to register as voters.
818
00:56:46,820 --> 00:56:49,948
They were met by Sue Profit,Wasco County clerk.
819
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,994
Okay, I'm going to read
a statement. Can you all hear me?
820
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:57,706
- Yes.
- Okay. Please listen very carefully.
821
00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:05,964
"Because I have reason to believe
there are organized efforts
822
00:57:06,048 --> 00:57:08,884
to fraudulently register people
in Wasco County to vote
823
00:57:08,967 --> 00:57:12,971
in the November general election,
I have decided to do a blanket rejection
824
00:57:13,055 --> 00:57:16,141
of all new voter registrations
in Wasco County."
825
00:57:18,018 --> 00:57:21,355
A busload of 30 Rajneeshees
and homeless men were turned back
826
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:24,358
at the door of the Wasco County
clerk's office in The Dalles this morning
827
00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:25,984
as they tried to register to vote.
828
00:57:26,068 --> 00:57:28,403
The county suspended the right to vote.
829
00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:31,406
One of the few times
that's ever happened in the United States,
830
00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:34,826
in one of the most arrogant
and powerful ways I had ever seen.
831
00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:38,914
That really--I mean, I got fired up about that one,
832
00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:43,293
about how these people might as
well be stomping on the Constitution.
833
00:57:43,377 --> 00:57:45,462
You make these people
spend their whole day coming here
834
00:57:45,545 --> 00:57:47,756
and you're rejecting people
from their right to vote.
835
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:51,009
That is a gross misinterpretation
of the law and you should know it.
836
00:57:51,093 --> 00:57:53,679
We have contributed
to America to its fullest.
837
00:57:54,054 --> 00:57:56,598
We intend, because we are Americans,
838
00:57:56,682 --> 00:58:02,521
to participate in this political system
and exercise the inalienable right.
839
00:58:03,146 --> 00:58:04,898
The inalienable right.
840
00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:11,488
I don't know what's going to happen,
but it's-- It's not going to be good.
841
00:58:18,954 --> 00:58:22,958
It was really as though a bombwent off in the middle of the community.
842
00:58:23,917 --> 00:58:29,840
The county refused to register
any of these people as voters.
843
00:58:32,426 --> 00:58:33,593
It was a catastrophe.
844
00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:40,183
We had literally thousandsof homeless people causing complete chaos.
845
00:58:40,767 --> 00:58:43,020
It became clear
that we had a hornet's nest
846
00:58:43,103 --> 00:58:44,980
right in the middle of the community.
847
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,696
One of them, a very big man...
848
00:58:54,823 --> 00:58:57,951
was just completely crazy,
rampaging around,
849
00:58:58,035 --> 00:59:00,287
breaking things, screaming and shouting,
850
00:59:00,370 --> 00:59:03,206
stopping cars,
pulling open the driver's door,
851
00:59:03,290 --> 00:59:05,876
pulling out the drivers,
throwing them on the ground.
852
00:59:06,084 --> 00:59:07,669
And Sheela heard what was happening.
853
00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:12,132
She came down from her house
854
00:59:12,215 --> 00:59:15,427
and went right up to him and spoke to him.
855
00:59:15,927 --> 00:59:18,555
And he was foaming at the mouth.
856
00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:22,434
Took me by my throat,
857
00:59:23,018 --> 00:59:24,478
and he wanted to kill me.
858
00:59:25,979 --> 00:59:29,858
He grabbed her by the neck, lifted her up
off the ground and shook her violently.
859
00:59:30,901 --> 00:59:32,611
And the whole Peace Force,
860
00:59:33,862 --> 00:59:38,283
no one can move a step forward.
861
00:59:41,536 --> 00:59:43,830
I was certain I was going to die that day.
862
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,794
By this time, one of the doctors had come.
863
00:59:49,503 --> 00:59:51,004
They sedated him,
864
00:59:51,922 --> 00:59:55,258
put him in a car,
drove him off Rajneeshpuram,
865
00:59:55,342 --> 00:59:58,553
off the ranch and set him
out on a park bench.
866
01:00:01,848 --> 01:00:05,477
In an effort to reduce the chaos,
867
01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:09,773
it was decided that the way
868
01:00:09,856 --> 01:00:12,567
to deal with this situation
869
01:00:12,651 --> 01:00:15,529
was to sedate all of the homeless people.
870
01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:18,824
So, Haldol, a sedative,
871
01:00:20,367 --> 01:00:24,579
was put into the beerthat was served to the homeless people
872
01:00:24,663 --> 01:00:26,039
with their evening meal.
873
01:00:27,415 --> 01:00:29,918
Nobody asked them if that was okay.
874
01:00:30,001 --> 01:00:32,629
They did not know
that they were being drugged.
875
01:00:46,518 --> 01:00:48,979
I'd like to say one thing
into this camera right now.
876
01:00:49,062 --> 01:00:50,564
You've got some good beer here.
877
01:01:29,728 --> 01:01:33,940
We had all of these attacks going on,
and it didn't look good.
878
01:01:34,024 --> 01:01:37,194
By then, they had screwed us a few times.
879
01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:42,157
And Sheela wanted to hurt them back.
880
01:01:46,411 --> 01:01:48,997
Sheela called different people to her room
881
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,667
to discuss other possible ways...
882
01:01:54,044 --> 01:01:55,378
to win the election.
883
01:01:55,462 --> 01:01:59,883
The conversations were
taking a very bizarre turn.
884
01:02:01,968 --> 01:02:05,013
Sheela described herselfthis night as the mother of these men.
885
01:02:05,096 --> 01:02:07,974
What followed was a pep rallyin the familiar style of Sheela.
886
01:02:09,601 --> 01:02:15,106
That woman, that bitch,
has made the worst mistake in her life.
887
01:02:19,903 --> 01:02:20,904
You know why?
888
01:02:21,947 --> 01:02:24,157
Because she's afraid,
889
01:02:24,241 --> 01:02:26,326
she's scared shit.
890
01:02:29,287 --> 01:02:33,833
And I'm pointing fingers at them
that they could not do it.
891
01:02:35,543 --> 01:02:39,381
They didn't have the courage
to accept you as people,
892
01:02:40,090 --> 01:02:41,925
and you fought for them!
893
01:02:42,968 --> 01:02:44,427
You fought for them!
894
01:02:45,053 --> 01:02:46,805
I'm going to fight for you!
895
01:03:20,588 --> 01:03:22,674
That devotion to the master,
896
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:27,971
devotion to building that city
in the wilderness,
897
01:03:28,513 --> 01:03:30,807
led some people...
898
01:03:31,182 --> 01:03:33,601
to allow Sheela...
899
01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:38,315
to mislead them
900
01:03:38,398 --> 01:03:41,735
into doing things
that ought not to be done.
901
01:03:42,610 --> 01:03:44,112
Now, instead of...
902
01:03:46,281 --> 01:03:51,828
trying to trick your way through
or shout your way through
903
01:03:51,911 --> 01:03:56,458
or force your way through
to get what you wanted,
904
01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:57,792
now it was different.
905
01:03:57,876 --> 01:04:02,088
Now there was talk of killing people
to get what you wanted,
906
01:04:02,172 --> 01:04:03,840
to get them out of the way.
907
01:04:04,758 --> 01:04:08,178
I was holding my breath
and hoping this wasn't real.
908
01:04:17,937 --> 01:04:20,940
There's darkness in all of us.
All of us have our dark side.
909
01:04:22,233 --> 01:04:24,652
That's just the nature of being human.
910
01:04:28,156 --> 01:04:29,699
It doesn't make you a bad person.
81793
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