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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,762 --> 00:00:14,223 Be grateful for this beautiful home that we have. 2 00:00:16,808 --> 00:00:19,561 Let's continue to take care of it and to nurture it 3 00:00:19,978 --> 00:00:25,150 so that it can grow more and more beautiful in his grace. 4 00:00:47,089 --> 00:00:48,924 No, we're not going to be victims. 5 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:52,261 If you're going to come at us with the big artillery, 6 00:00:52,344 --> 00:00:54,137 we're going to play your game. 7 00:00:54,429 --> 00:00:59,726 And that was unsettling to a lot of us, but it was also... 8 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:04,731 Brought a sense of security in some bizarre way. 9 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:26,503 I didn't have a gun here until they bombed our hotel. 10 00:01:26,878 --> 00:01:29,631 I didn't even have a single weapon here. 11 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:34,136 But I don't believe in turning the other cheek. 12 00:01:52,154 --> 00:01:54,823 We learned how to shoot a Smith & Wesson. 13 00:01:58,910 --> 00:02:04,958 And I came to recognize that if I truly went into a meditative stance, 14 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,044 I could hit the target. 15 00:02:07,628 --> 00:02:10,756 And that it was all about my breath and it was all about my awareness. 16 00:02:16,762 --> 00:02:21,433 I had already had experience with guns because my dad had a gun. 17 00:02:21,516 --> 00:02:25,437 We used to go and shoot rabbits. And Sheela was very pleased about that. 18 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,232 She used to run around telling everybody, "Oh, Shanti B is a really good shot." 19 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:35,489 And when we showed them how good training we had... 20 00:02:37,949 --> 00:02:39,368 they were shocked. 21 00:02:49,836 --> 00:02:54,216 The people of Oregon knew then that we were armed, 22 00:02:54,299 --> 00:02:56,843 that we could use our weapons well... 23 00:02:59,096 --> 00:03:03,600 and that we were prepared to use those weapons if push came to shove. 24 00:03:26,123 --> 00:03:28,083 In the northern part of Oregon, there used to be 25 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:29,584 a little town called Antelope. 26 00:03:29,668 --> 00:03:34,297 Yesterday the voters in Antelope decided to change the town's name to "Rajneesh." 27 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,136 It is a political victory for followers of the Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. 28 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:43,932 Change has been coming, and today Antelope awoke to a red dawn. 29 00:03:51,690 --> 00:03:55,193 They changed the name to the city of Rajneesh. 30 00:03:56,027 --> 00:04:00,115 They renamed everything, of course. They have to put their brand on it. 31 00:04:02,492 --> 00:04:04,536 They had a majority of the residents 32 00:04:05,078 --> 00:04:08,832 and held an election and took over the city council. 33 00:04:09,958 --> 00:04:11,835 A guy that had been on the council 34 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:14,671 and was fighting the Rajneeshees, Don Smith... 35 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:19,843 came to me and said, "We can't get anybody to put their name on the ballot. 36 00:04:19,926 --> 00:04:22,429 We know they're going to win this election, 37 00:04:22,554 --> 00:04:25,432 but, you know, we don't want to just hand it to them. 38 00:04:26,057 --> 00:04:28,059 Could we put your name on the ballot? 39 00:04:28,143 --> 00:04:31,646 Would you volunteer, you know, to get your ass kicked?" 40 00:04:32,063 --> 00:04:33,815 And I said, "Okay. Why not?" 41 00:04:33,899 --> 00:04:35,400 You know, I didn't care. 42 00:04:35,484 --> 00:04:40,781 The Rajneeshees, they didn't want to seem like they took over everything. 43 00:04:40,864 --> 00:04:44,284 So, they voted three of theirs and two of ours. 44 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:46,745 They voted me and this other guy. 45 00:04:46,828 --> 00:04:50,707 Well, soon as the other guy saw that, well, he was out of town in like two days. 46 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:52,584 He was gone. 47 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:55,879 There is now only one non-Rajneeshee on Antelope's city council. 48 00:04:55,962 --> 00:04:57,589 They didn't scare me. 49 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:01,259 Sometimes, you know, keep your enemies close. 50 00:05:01,802 --> 00:05:04,179 You know what I'm saying? 51 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:07,849 You learn a lot more being nice. Um... 52 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:10,519 You learn a lot more being nice. 53 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,191 Apparently, everything the Rajneeshees did to take over this small town was legal. 54 00:05:16,775 --> 00:05:19,361 The question is, was it right? 55 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:23,406 The new Rajneesh-controlled city council passed an ordinance 56 00:05:23,490 --> 00:05:28,245 reserving this weed-covered city park for nude sunbathing. 57 00:05:33,124 --> 00:05:35,335 There were a lot of weird things that happened. 58 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:39,714 At night up here, you can hear everything that goes on 59 00:05:39,798 --> 00:05:42,801 because there's no background noise. It's not like a city. 60 00:05:42,884 --> 00:05:45,345 And you could hear them going all night. 61 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:48,014 It's like you're in the same room with them, you know? 62 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,228 And my aunt was not pleased with that, 63 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:56,147 sharing her bedroom with these people, 64 00:05:56,231 --> 00:05:58,275 listening to their goings on, 65 00:05:59,276 --> 00:06:01,403 which they were, they were going on. 66 00:06:01,486 --> 00:06:03,405 And, uh... 67 00:06:03,530 --> 00:06:05,240 I couldn't see them, but could hear them. 68 00:06:05,323 --> 00:06:09,286 And it was the noises and things were... 69 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:10,620 It sounded like animals. 70 00:06:11,288 --> 00:06:15,917 There is a sense of lustiness and sexual obsession there 71 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:19,004 that I have never known of anywhere. 72 00:06:19,087 --> 00:06:24,426 You can hear people having orgasmic experiences all day and all night. 73 00:06:31,891 --> 00:06:34,561 They weren't somebody you wanted to have for neighbors. 74 00:06:34,853 --> 00:06:38,857 I had gone to help my cousin move cattle to the summer range 75 00:06:38,940 --> 00:06:42,152 and came home and my wife said, "They've got guns up there." 76 00:06:42,694 --> 00:06:46,615 I said, "No way! They're... They claim they're nonviolent people." 77 00:06:46,698 --> 00:06:50,744 They've sat up there just above my field all summer long, 78 00:06:50,827 --> 00:06:53,788 armed with what appear to be semi-automatic rifles, 79 00:06:53,872 --> 00:06:56,708 and about half of us feel that before this is over, 80 00:06:56,791 --> 00:06:58,335 some of us are going to be killed. 81 00:07:00,545 --> 00:07:03,089 They watched our house from across the river 82 00:07:03,173 --> 00:07:07,469 with some kind of an automatic assault weapon. 83 00:07:07,552 --> 00:07:09,262 They sure weren't BB guns. 84 00:07:09,346 --> 00:07:12,432 They had a police force in Antelope 85 00:07:12,515 --> 00:07:15,977 that patrolled the streets all night long, 86 00:07:16,061 --> 00:07:19,105 cars with lights on them and the lights would be flashing 87 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:21,608 going through town while people were trying to sleep. 88 00:07:21,691 --> 00:07:23,693 They called it the Peace Force. 89 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:28,156 And it was not a Peace Force. 90 00:07:29,783 --> 00:07:32,118 It was a harassment force. 91 00:07:32,702 --> 00:07:35,747 They met legal requirements to make these people cops, 92 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:37,415 and they made them cops. 93 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:43,588 They were there with guns. 94 00:07:43,672 --> 00:07:47,676 When you came into town, they'd be stationed at either end of it. 95 00:07:49,594 --> 00:07:51,429 The occupying force had landed. 96 00:07:52,722 --> 00:07:55,725 As we talked to the few non-Rajneeshee residents who remain, 97 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,728 our car was followed, our movements noted 98 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:01,731 by both marked and unmarked Rajneeshee police cars. 99 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:10,115 One longtime local resident frustrated at what was happening to his town 100 00:08:10,198 --> 00:08:11,783 started repeatedly picketing. 101 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:14,077 Jim was a little hotheaded... 102 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,996 and he made a sign... 103 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:18,331 and he trolled back and forth in front 104 00:08:18,415 --> 00:08:21,543 of the Rajneeshee establishment there in town. 105 00:08:22,752 --> 00:08:26,589 And about nine o'clock that night, they came in and arrested him. 106 00:08:26,673 --> 00:08:29,759 Rajneeshee police arrested him for, quote, "menacing" 107 00:08:29,843 --> 00:08:31,511 and took him to Wasco County jail. 108 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:36,683 They had to handcuff him in front because he couldn't get his arms behind him, 109 00:08:37,267 --> 00:08:38,226 he was so arthritic. 110 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:41,312 That kind of changed it for me. 111 00:08:41,813 --> 00:08:44,816 We knew Antelope was shot at that point. 112 00:08:45,483 --> 00:08:49,529 It's just throwing gas on the fire almost. 113 00:08:49,612 --> 00:08:52,157 Gun sales in neighboring towns have skyrocketed. 114 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,660 People call in wanting to know prices of guns and what we have 115 00:08:55,744 --> 00:08:58,413 for more of a protection weapon than a hunting weapon, 116 00:08:58,496 --> 00:09:01,332 with a lot of older people calling, worried, scared. 117 00:09:01,791 --> 00:09:03,752 Sheela was holding Antelope... 118 00:09:03,835 --> 00:09:05,837 - Hostage. And they said so. - ...hostage. 119 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,090 The Bhagwan's top aide says the Rajneeshees will leave Antelope 120 00:09:09,174 --> 00:09:12,135 if the state grants a zoning change permitting the Rajneeshees 121 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:14,387 to set up their own city on their ranch. 122 00:09:14,471 --> 00:09:19,601 We have never had interest in Antelope before and now, except for our survival. 123 00:09:19,684 --> 00:09:22,103 We want our city to be developed, 124 00:09:22,645 --> 00:09:24,355 and if this city goes, 125 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:28,109 then of course we will have Rajneeshpuram. 126 00:09:28,193 --> 00:09:29,569 Either way, we are the winner. 127 00:09:29,652 --> 00:09:32,739 There's a lot of people that would have loved to have shot Sheela. 128 00:09:34,824 --> 00:09:38,244 I'd like to have choked her to death a couple times myself. 129 00:09:38,328 --> 00:09:41,289 That woman is the closest thing to Hitler that I've ever seen in my life, 130 00:09:41,372 --> 00:09:43,083 and I have seen people coming out of Buchenwald. 131 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:45,043 I've seen them come out of Dachau. 132 00:09:46,377 --> 00:09:48,546 The only thing she don't have yet is the ovens. 133 00:09:49,172 --> 00:09:52,884 As you can see, the relationship between the Rajneeshees and the townspeople 134 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:56,096 is going downhill fast, and there is a possibility 135 00:09:56,179 --> 00:10:00,225 that it will come to a very big crescendo very soon. 136 00:10:08,066 --> 00:10:11,277 Last July, the 40 residents of Antelope learned 137 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:13,613 they were about to acquire some new neighbors, 138 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:16,366 several hundred followers of the spiritual leader, 139 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:18,535 Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. 140 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:21,121 First we're gonna hear from the Rajneesh Foundation. 141 00:10:21,204 --> 00:10:24,874 And it's a fascinating story. Would you welcome its president, Ma Anand Sheela. 142 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:30,463 Media is expensive and one should not miss 143 00:10:30,964 --> 00:10:33,758 an opportunity for free publicity. 144 00:10:33,842 --> 00:10:36,302 When we come back, we'll talk with the spokesperson 145 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:39,264 for the Rajneeshee sect, Ma Anand Sheela. 146 00:10:39,347 --> 00:10:41,141 - Ma Anand Sheela. - Ma Anand Sheela. 147 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:44,811 From Washington, Crossfire. 148 00:10:44,894 --> 00:10:47,564 She's the personal secretary of the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh 149 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,274 who is the head of this... 150 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:52,026 - Religion. - Religion. Thank you. 151 00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:57,782 Bhagwan told me to be very, very strong in the media. 152 00:10:57,866 --> 00:10:59,868 I had to be provocative. 153 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:02,662 I had to provoke. 154 00:11:03,246 --> 00:11:05,456 Isn't your leader the free sex guru? 155 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:08,668 Free sex? We don't charge for it, if you meant that. 156 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:09,586 Right. 157 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:14,716 We are the only community which has no venereal diseases, 158 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:17,760 no crime, no drugs, no alcoholism. 159 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:20,430 And I'll tell you about one more thing, 160 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:23,516 that we are the only people who enjoy sex fully. 161 00:11:24,601 --> 00:11:29,355 "How could you do that? How could you...?" I said, "Don't tell me. I'm doing my job." 162 00:11:30,189 --> 00:11:31,024 That's it. 163 00:11:31,524 --> 00:11:33,526 Sheela, whatever your plans are, 164 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:35,194 we don't want the Rajneeshees, 165 00:11:35,278 --> 00:11:37,488 we don't want the orange people in our town. 166 00:11:37,572 --> 00:11:39,616 What can I say? Tough titties. 167 00:11:40,116 --> 00:11:42,952 It was that fearlessness... 168 00:11:44,203 --> 00:11:47,040 was a very special quality. 169 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:50,168 No, I'm not running for cover, mister. I don't run for cover. 170 00:11:51,502 --> 00:11:54,464 And person like you make me run for cover? 171 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:57,592 - Oh, that's a joke. - Well... 172 00:11:57,675 --> 00:11:59,886 She learned to be outrageous. 173 00:12:01,596 --> 00:12:06,184 But there was a part of her nature that could adapt to that really easily. 174 00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:10,438 You seem to be enjoying it, almost giving them your finger. 175 00:12:12,106 --> 00:12:16,819 Merv Griffin called and they asked if I would go on the program. 176 00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:21,074 I said, "Sheela's gotten way more publicity than she deserves." 177 00:12:21,616 --> 00:12:26,996 And she was extremely arrogant and she was off the maps, I tell you. 178 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:30,625 The Bhagwan has from four to 13 Rolls Royces. 179 00:12:30,708 --> 00:12:34,921 - Let me add it is 17 Rolls Royces. - Seventeen. Wonderful. 180 00:12:35,004 --> 00:12:38,549 On the second, there will be 20 Rolls Royces. 181 00:12:39,092 --> 00:12:43,930 Everybody was like, "Who is this guy? And who is she?" 182 00:12:44,013 --> 00:12:46,182 - That was one thing, but let me-- - You are full of shit. 183 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:47,600 You don't know anything about-- 184 00:12:47,684 --> 00:12:49,894 In that case, we'll cut the microphone off right now. 185 00:12:49,978 --> 00:12:51,479 Thank you very much, all of you, for joining us. 186 00:12:52,021 --> 00:12:55,108 Good shot, Sheela. You're up to your good old-- Same old tricks. 187 00:12:55,608 --> 00:12:59,153 These people are distorting and twisting the laws to use to their own advantage. 188 00:12:59,237 --> 00:13:02,073 - If it's legal doesn't mean it's right. - Oh, you. 189 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:05,743 All right, you got one in, Sheela. You got your dirty word in. 190 00:13:06,077 --> 00:13:07,495 You get one per show. 191 00:13:07,578 --> 00:13:10,331 Certainly, the more press we got, 192 00:13:10,415 --> 00:13:12,834 the more books we sold internationally. 193 00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:15,670 And so seekers around the world 194 00:13:15,753 --> 00:13:19,173 would be interested in not just the mundane story, 195 00:13:19,257 --> 00:13:21,009 but who is Rajneesh. 196 00:13:27,265 --> 00:13:31,686 Everywhere Bhagwan was spreading. 197 00:13:32,186 --> 00:13:34,522 The Bhagwan commissioned the most loyal of his supporters 198 00:13:34,605 --> 00:13:38,276 to go to the four corners of the earth and establish Buddha fields. 199 00:13:38,359 --> 00:13:43,197 In Europe, that meant establishing Rajneesh centers from Copenhagen to Italy 200 00:13:43,281 --> 00:13:45,700 and from England to West Berlin. 201 00:13:50,621 --> 00:13:55,043 Almost everywhere in the world, Bhagwan's communes were functioning. 202 00:13:57,086 --> 00:13:59,172 We had communes in India, 203 00:14:00,214 --> 00:14:02,842 Australia had a number of communes. 204 00:14:03,801 --> 00:14:05,303 Italy many communes. 205 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:07,680 In Germany, 206 00:14:08,598 --> 00:14:09,599 Amsterdam, 207 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:11,434 Switzerland. 208 00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:13,853 Portugal had a commune. 209 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:19,442 And all communes were self-supporting with different activities, 210 00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:21,611 like construction companies, 211 00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:24,864 bistros, discos. 212 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:31,454 Official number working Sannyasins were about 30,000. 213 00:14:32,747 --> 00:14:36,167 When you include Bhagwan's followers who are not Sannyas... 214 00:14:38,169 --> 00:14:39,587 500,000. 215 00:14:40,463 --> 00:14:45,385 And we were not afraid to show his vision 216 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,970 in physical world. 217 00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:54,394 The new commune is now global. It is a global community. 218 00:14:54,477 --> 00:14:58,106 There are thousands and thousands and thousands of Sannyasins. 219 00:14:58,189 --> 00:15:00,691 And in Europe, believers work year-round 220 00:15:00,775 --> 00:15:04,487 for the pleasure of a trip to Oregon in July for the annual festival. 221 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:08,825 Out of this money, we can go all to Rajneeshpuram, to the celebration, 222 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:10,952 to the festival, to see Bhagwan. 223 00:15:11,035 --> 00:15:12,954 It's the high point of the year. 224 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:23,214 World festival was a magical time... 225 00:15:24,340 --> 00:15:26,551 for all Sannyasins. 226 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:38,604 It was an event. 227 00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:42,525 People would mark their calendars, save their money and come. 228 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:50,074 Buses were moving back and forth, 229 00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:53,953 filled with Sannyasins from all over the world. 230 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:07,925 Is the Rajneesh movement growing in Japan? 231 00:16:08,009 --> 00:16:09,010 Yeah, sure. 232 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:14,724 Many, many people are taking sannyas in Tokyo. 233 00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:17,268 In just three years, this has become 234 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:19,645 one of Oregon's biggest summer tourist events. 235 00:16:19,729 --> 00:16:23,149 Yet for most of these people, this is a visit to a state of mind. 236 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:27,612 - What brings you here? - Adventure, love. 237 00:16:27,695 --> 00:16:30,281 I want to dance. I want to celebrate. I want to sing. 238 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,241 My heart wants to just sing. 239 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:37,705 Anywhere you go, people were just celebrating. 240 00:16:55,848 --> 00:16:58,976 You have a beer tent, you got a gambling casino, and you got a disco 241 00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:02,271 and you've got food and people are buying stuff. 242 00:17:03,147 --> 00:17:07,026 The world festivals were making lots of money. 243 00:17:07,109 --> 00:17:09,445 I mean, it was just an explosion of activity. 244 00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:11,822 Rajneesh is an avowed capitalist. 245 00:17:11,906 --> 00:17:14,909 The commune boutiques offer a variety of ways to see the light, 246 00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:19,413 materially speaking, or to surround the inner self with scanty spirituality. 247 00:17:20,331 --> 00:17:23,334 Yes, Rajneesh seems to have his mug on everything. 248 00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:27,046 And the Rajneeshees are making money, lots of it. 249 00:17:27,588 --> 00:17:30,633 Rajneesh Foundation International: 19 million. 250 00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:34,428 Rajneesh Investment Corporation: 31 million. 251 00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:38,641 And finally, there is the commune itself: assets 15 million. 252 00:17:39,141 --> 00:17:42,019 The amount of money that came in during those festivals 253 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:44,188 really sustained us and allowed us to grow. 254 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:50,570 But all of this is no laughing matter 255 00:17:50,653 --> 00:17:51,988 down the road in tiny Antelope. 256 00:17:52,071 --> 00:17:55,449 Here in the town of Antelope, they're not celebrating this weekend. 257 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:57,702 There are no parades here, no town picnics, 258 00:17:57,785 --> 00:18:00,413 and the only fireworks are verbal ones. 259 00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:02,623 We've got a concentration camp up there. 260 00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:05,543 It's not a small, rural, quiet place to retire anymore. 261 00:18:05,626 --> 00:18:07,795 It's dark and damp on the eve 262 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:09,714 of the first world celebration of Rajneesh. 263 00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:13,259 You didn't make a special request for this weather for the festival? 264 00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:14,343 You bet I did. 265 00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:20,600 I think every person in town is-- Was hoping that it rained. 266 00:18:21,309 --> 00:18:23,853 Through our celebration, they get jealous. 267 00:18:23,936 --> 00:18:25,438 - You think so? - Absolutely. 268 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:31,027 Look at it, which rancher is as successful as this community? 269 00:18:32,653 --> 00:18:33,696 They're jealous. 270 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:37,658 Only one other message I'd like to say, and that's to the people... 271 00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:39,994 that would like to destroy this city 272 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:43,789 because they're jealous and ignorant and stupid: up yours. 273 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:18,699 For me, the whole energy was like a feast. 274 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,205 A feast for the eyes, a feast for the ears, 275 00:19:24,288 --> 00:19:26,165 a feast for smile. 276 00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:34,090 It was a feast of colors. 277 00:19:48,229 --> 00:19:52,233 There were 15,000 lovers of Bhagwan. 278 00:19:53,317 --> 00:19:57,822 Many of them were going to see Bhagwan first time in their life. 279 00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:03,994 And Bhagwan in his beautiful clothes and jewelry... 280 00:20:05,287 --> 00:20:08,290 presented like a king. 281 00:20:19,093 --> 00:20:21,387 He would get the energy moving. 282 00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:25,933 "Come on, give me more than that. That's all you got?" 283 00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:29,770 And he'd get 10,000 people really rocking it. 284 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:42,116 He was a rock star. 285 00:20:43,367 --> 00:20:45,578 And I was like, "You want to rock and roll?" 286 00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:48,789 Because he went like this, you know? And I went, "Okay." 287 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:52,752 So, I was in his face and I was doing it back to him. 288 00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:55,838 The crowd was going absolutely nuts. 289 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,553 I also saw that he was a man and he was a human and he wanted to play 290 00:21:02,636 --> 00:21:04,430 and that he wanted to play with me. 291 00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:09,268 And that was my best moment. 292 00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:13,606 There's really something special about Bhagwan, and it's hard to put into words. 293 00:21:13,689 --> 00:21:16,275 We're just all glad to have him here physically. 294 00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:19,111 Always when I see him, I must cry. 295 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:23,407 So, it's so... emotionally for me. 296 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:25,451 And yeah, I love him. 297 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:29,163 There are fireworks and parades going on inside of us. 298 00:21:37,713 --> 00:21:40,925 It was an experience to live. 299 00:21:42,593 --> 00:21:44,136 You have no idea. 300 00:21:44,678 --> 00:21:46,305 You can never capture it again. 301 00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:55,105 Well, I'll tell you this story, 302 00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:56,732 and I shouldn't probably tell you. 303 00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:58,567 I've never told it in public. 304 00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:04,073 They didn't know it, you know, when I was spying on them. 305 00:22:16,919 --> 00:22:18,546 We used to have a little city dump. 306 00:22:19,421 --> 00:22:22,049 So, I was just taking the garbage up there one day, 307 00:22:22,132 --> 00:22:26,136 and there in the garbage I could see stuff they'd thrown in. 308 00:22:29,306 --> 00:22:30,516 A poster. 309 00:22:31,308 --> 00:22:33,435 I thought, "Oh, that'd be kind of cool to have." 310 00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:39,942 So I just jumped right in the dump. 311 00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,946 Went over there and grabbed the poster and... 312 00:22:45,864 --> 00:22:47,700 there's a lot of other stuff. 313 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:53,872 I started looking at it, thought, "Oh, this is pretty interesting." 314 00:22:53,956 --> 00:22:57,334 And find these things in there, says, "Shred this. 315 00:22:57,418 --> 00:23:00,546 Shred this document after the meeting." 316 00:23:01,797 --> 00:23:04,800 And I went through that stuff for quite a while, 317 00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:06,927 taking all I could grab. 318 00:23:07,011 --> 00:23:10,431 Had my buddy watching lookout, see if anybody is coming up the hill. 319 00:23:12,016 --> 00:23:14,643 And there were incriminating things in them. 320 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:19,732 Internal committee minutes about what was going on at the ranch. 321 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:25,070 There were instructions about censoring the mail... 322 00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:29,116 making sure everything is read before it goes out. 323 00:23:29,617 --> 00:23:32,161 There were documents about arranged marriages. 324 00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:34,913 I mean, there was a vast array of crap. 325 00:23:34,997 --> 00:23:39,793 And they had a big leak and they didn't even know it. 326 00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:46,258 At that point, you know, I was not dealing with people that I hadn't known for years, 327 00:23:46,342 --> 00:23:48,177 because I didn't trust anybody. 328 00:23:49,803 --> 00:23:55,017 Dave Frohnmayer, he was attorney general. I'd known him for years, 329 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:59,021 being at the University of Oregon, and we'd known each other for a long time. 330 00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:00,606 Told him, "Let's get together." 331 00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:04,276 And I slipped him some of these minutes from their meetings. 332 00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:12,534 Well, that was the first time that their smokescreen was penetrated. 333 00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:16,664 They'd got caught lying about what was going on out there. 334 00:24:18,374 --> 00:24:25,005 In mid-1983, Dave Frohnmayer made his first appearance in this play. 335 00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:29,218 He was the attorney general of the state of Oregon. 336 00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:36,892 The Frohnmayer family, we have been close to for my entire life. 337 00:24:37,518 --> 00:24:40,604 The Frohnmayers and the Bowermans, we got together every year. 338 00:24:40,688 --> 00:24:43,774 And I knew Dave from the time he was born. 339 00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:46,568 Dave was a remarkable guy. 340 00:24:46,652 --> 00:24:52,074 He was a Harvard undergrad, Rhodes Scholar, Boalt Hall law. 341 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:59,206 Ran for attorney general in 1980, Dave got elected. 342 00:25:00,207 --> 00:25:05,003 He was uniquely suited for the job. 343 00:25:05,087 --> 00:25:06,505 I have the objective of building 344 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:09,425 the finest Department of Justice in the United States of America. 345 00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:11,427 I can't think that Oregon deserves any less. 346 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:14,805 You need integrity because of the importance of that position 347 00:25:14,888 --> 00:25:18,225 to carry through the mission of the Constitution 348 00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:20,436 and laws of the state of Oregon. 349 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:24,106 Frankly, you need courage because many decisions you make are unpopular. 350 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:29,278 When Dave became attorney general, my father and I were writing. 351 00:25:29,778 --> 00:25:33,866 I could fire off a letter to Dave and say, "Hey, here's what's happening." 352 00:25:44,626 --> 00:25:50,174 We were doing our best to communicate to Dave that we had a problem here. 353 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:55,554 Maybe as a favor to our family, Dave's investigation began. 354 00:25:55,637 --> 00:26:00,225 And once they got the bone in their teeth, they weren't going to let go of it. 355 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:03,437 Rajneeshpuram's strongest legal challenge 356 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,814 comes from the office of the state attorney general. 357 00:26:06,106 --> 00:26:10,068 Dave Frohnmayer filed suit on behalf of Oregon residents claiming the city 358 00:26:10,152 --> 00:26:13,113 violates the constitutional separation of church and state. 359 00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:17,785 When you have a religion exercising the power of a government, 360 00:26:17,868 --> 00:26:20,329 then you have an intermingling of church and state 361 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:22,915 which is such a fundamental civil liberties issue 362 00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:25,834 that it has to be addressed and we couldn't avoid it. 363 00:26:25,918 --> 00:26:30,255 There was a question of whether the city of Rajneeshpuram 364 00:26:30,339 --> 00:26:35,010 was a legitimate government entity or whether it was a government entity 365 00:26:35,093 --> 00:26:38,722 that was effectively controlled by a religion. 366 00:26:39,264 --> 00:26:41,266 The problem that we identified 367 00:26:41,350 --> 00:26:46,355 was that the two were inextricably linked. 368 00:26:49,233 --> 00:26:54,112 The city of Rajneeshpuram were allowed an official law enforcement agency... 369 00:26:55,531 --> 00:26:58,867 and they were allowed access to the law enforcement data system, 370 00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:02,162 criminal information and backgrounds. 371 00:27:03,121 --> 00:27:07,251 It is the most sensitive information the government possessed about its citizens. 372 00:27:07,793 --> 00:27:11,964 And to carry weapons that private citizens wouldn't have been allowed to carry. 373 00:27:13,632 --> 00:27:15,968 And there were questions about the school. 374 00:27:16,051 --> 00:27:20,013 Is the public elementary school in the town of Rajneesh truly a public school? 375 00:27:20,097 --> 00:27:22,474 There's been argument over this for some time now. 376 00:27:25,727 --> 00:27:31,149 Can teachers wear religious garb when they are teaching in a public school? 377 00:27:32,442 --> 00:27:35,028 The school is permeated with religious symbolism. 378 00:27:35,612 --> 00:27:40,242 It did not look, sound or feel like a public school. 379 00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:43,787 Our case was based on the fact 380 00:27:43,871 --> 00:27:46,707 that the religion was controlling the government, 381 00:27:47,124 --> 00:27:50,460 that the Bhagwan was deciding who would be the mayor, 382 00:27:50,544 --> 00:27:56,174 the city councilors were selected by either Sheela or the Bhagwan, 383 00:27:56,258 --> 00:27:58,969 and then they staged elections, but it was all a show. 384 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:03,390 And the city existed purely for appearances. 385 00:28:03,891 --> 00:28:07,519 This is a fundamental issue which is so serious 386 00:28:07,603 --> 00:28:10,147 that it must be resolved in our judgment by a court. 387 00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:14,902 We were aware that what we decided 388 00:28:14,985 --> 00:28:17,279 was going to have profound ramifications 389 00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:22,075 and could potentially affect many individuals' constitutional rights. 390 00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:28,040 I remember vividly being struck by the fact that this was big stuff. 391 00:28:28,123 --> 00:28:30,459 This was-- This was important. 392 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:34,379 And I remember thinking, "I sure hope we're right." 393 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,798 The AG is full of crap. 394 00:28:39,009 --> 00:28:41,428 One sentence sums up the whole thing: the AG... 395 00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:45,641 is not acting as an attorney general, he's acting as a politician. 396 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:48,977 I can't find words harsh enough in my vocabulary, 397 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,979 certainly that I could say in front of you people, 398 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:53,273 that would describe my feeling towards a man... 399 00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:59,363 that would use politics and legalities to try and throw people out of their homes. 400 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:03,033 Frohnmayer writes an opinion, and what he asks 401 00:29:03,116 --> 00:29:05,452 is to have the city declared null and void... 402 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,372 because its very existence violates 403 00:29:08,455 --> 00:29:11,375 the Establishment Clause of the Constitution, 404 00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:16,713 which says that Congress shall make no law establishing a religion. 405 00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:21,093 It requires a careful analysis... 406 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,930 because they're two sides of the same coin, right? 407 00:29:25,097 --> 00:29:26,306 Freedom of religion... 408 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,102 and avoiding an establishment. 409 00:29:31,478 --> 00:29:33,272 There's a lot of establishment cases. 410 00:29:33,355 --> 00:29:37,401 Usually, they're about some town 411 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:40,779 put a crèche scene on the courthouse steps. 412 00:29:40,862 --> 00:29:46,410 Some teacher allowed students to say a prayer before the beginning of class. 413 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:51,081 Essentially, always the order is don't do that. 414 00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:56,169 You never had a city destroyed because of the Establishment Clause. 415 00:29:56,253 --> 00:29:58,797 You correct the problem. 416 00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:02,301 So, it's injunctive. You say stop doing that. 417 00:30:04,386 --> 00:30:09,516 Cities that have a majority of a particular religion 418 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:10,851 are very, very common. 419 00:30:12,311 --> 00:30:14,187 If you look at our history... 420 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,569 If you look at Catholics in Boston, 421 00:30:21,278 --> 00:30:24,489 were a huge majority and totally ran the government. 422 00:30:25,532 --> 00:30:27,909 Utah, Mormonism, that's a whole state. 423 00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:31,038 But certainly in the city of Salt Lake City, even today... 424 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:34,416 nobody tells those people that they can't have a city. 425 00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:37,336 Nobody thinks that they can't have a city. 426 00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:43,091 Nobody ever even raised the issue, until us. 427 00:30:44,134 --> 00:30:47,846 To have it be something as significant 428 00:30:47,929 --> 00:30:51,808 as destroying the community 429 00:30:51,892 --> 00:30:54,102 of a religious minority... 430 00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:58,023 so that it cannot exist... 431 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:02,819 which affects fundamental rights of assembly... 432 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:07,657 speech, religion, association, 433 00:31:08,116 --> 00:31:12,746 powerfully impacting on those rights in a negative way. 434 00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:16,541 I mean, screw religious freedom, right? Do we really care? 435 00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:18,668 Let's have a simple test... 436 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,130 where the government can just do what it wants. 437 00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:25,509 And minority religions we don't really care much about. 438 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:33,392 By now, Rajneeshpuram had been licensed as a police force. 439 00:31:33,475 --> 00:31:36,228 Everybody knew that their loyalty was not to their badge, 440 00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:38,397 their loyalty was to Bhagwan. 441 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,817 So, they had semi-automatic weapons, tear gas grenades. 442 00:31:42,692 --> 00:31:46,029 You had the mayor of Rajneeshpuram threatening civil war. 443 00:31:46,113 --> 00:31:48,407 What I see here today as I look out 444 00:31:48,490 --> 00:31:51,159 is the beginning of a civil war in this county. 445 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:52,744 If that's what you want, fine. 446 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:56,039 So, yeah, it was a huge problem. 447 00:31:57,416 --> 00:32:00,836 We were not out to get the leadership just to get the leadership. 448 00:32:01,294 --> 00:32:05,715 We were looking for the architects responsible for this very broad scheme 449 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,968 of deceit against the United States government. 450 00:32:08,051 --> 00:32:10,095 That's the only way that was going to stop. 451 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,810 It was very clear that all agencies, 452 00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:19,312 Thousand Friends of Oregon, 453 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:21,773 Frohnmayer, 454 00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:24,276 Governor Atiyeh, 455 00:32:24,818 --> 00:32:27,612 and rest of the politicians 456 00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:33,076 were making difficult for our existence. 457 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,787 The governor has made no secret of his feelings 458 00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:38,415 about the followers of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh 459 00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:42,669 and has said repeatedly that, personally, he'd rather they just leave. 460 00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:45,505 Oregon legislature introduced three bills 461 00:32:45,589 --> 00:32:49,926 that would repeal the city charters in both Rajneeshpuram and Rajneesh-Antelope. 462 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:53,722 Legislation was a tool to destroy the community. 463 00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:57,642 My personal favorite is the initiative petition, 464 00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:01,062 "Expel the Rajneesh cult from Oregon." 465 00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:04,107 I really wonder what they had in mind. 466 00:33:05,609 --> 00:33:10,197 I'm both shocked and amused by the stupidity of Oregon politicians. 467 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:16,036 Oregon is developing an international reputation as a backwater of bigotry. 468 00:33:16,578 --> 00:33:21,166 There was a task force that had been organized, 469 00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,878 addressing the Rajneesh problem... 470 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:28,965 and how to deal with it. 471 00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:31,635 On the afternoon of September 26, 472 00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:34,721 a whole variety of state and federal officials converged 473 00:33:34,804 --> 00:33:36,223 in a conference room in Salem. 474 00:33:36,306 --> 00:33:38,433 They were there to discuss the Rajneeshees, 475 00:33:38,517 --> 00:33:40,268 but the press was not welcome. 476 00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:42,103 The meeting took place behind closed doors. 477 00:33:42,646 --> 00:33:45,607 Well, when's the last time you heard about a problem, 478 00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,068 a Jewish problem, a Rajneesh problem? 479 00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,196 What kind of nonsense is this? 480 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,490 What's going on in this state is what I'd like to know. 481 00:33:53,573 --> 00:33:56,201 It used to be the legislature was called a circus. 482 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,289 Now I call it a zoo because at least in a circus the animals are trained. 483 00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,792 We had every branch, 484 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:07,087 federal, state, county, local, 485 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:10,632 organized and united. 486 00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:15,428 Your attorney general, your county commissioners, 487 00:34:16,096 --> 00:34:20,725 have made many policies behind closed doors against Rajneeshees. 488 00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:25,438 Go to them now. Don't come to me about reconciliation. 489 00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:30,277 For somebody like Sheela, she was driven 490 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,407 out of a real sense that the community was going to be destroyed. 491 00:34:35,490 --> 00:34:37,909 Those were accurate perceptions. 492 00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:39,786 Persecution must stop. 493 00:34:41,705 --> 00:34:44,332 Persecution of all people, all race, 494 00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,168 all religion must stop. 495 00:34:47,961 --> 00:34:51,131 Unless this state is ready to do that, 496 00:34:52,382 --> 00:34:54,217 Rajneeshees are not going to stop. 497 00:34:56,344 --> 00:35:01,641 Sheela, over a period of time, she became the focus. 498 00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:05,562 And it was almost by-- By accident. 499 00:35:05,645 --> 00:35:10,358 Bhagwan stepped back into his house, so we didn't see him. 500 00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:12,694 And Sheela stepped forward. 501 00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:16,239 And so with time, I just became more and more devoted to her. 502 00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:22,495 I was-- My devotion to Bhagwan kind of swapped over, 503 00:35:22,579 --> 00:35:25,248 and it included not just Bhagwan, but also Sheela. 504 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:31,421 You never know, Sheela is never, um... 505 00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:35,800 She's very spontaneous. She's extremely spontaneous. 506 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,345 And she moves with the moods. 507 00:35:38,428 --> 00:35:42,057 She moves with the wind. She moves with the time of the day. 508 00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:45,435 I mean, it's funny, you-- 509 00:35:45,602 --> 00:35:49,481 All of you see me in one position or another as a spokesperson, 510 00:35:49,564 --> 00:35:51,149 but you don't know me personally. 511 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,985 Because personally, people can't figure me out. 512 00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:58,948 I'm not the same person you think I am. 513 00:36:02,327 --> 00:36:04,037 Jesus Grove was Sheela's house. 514 00:36:05,455 --> 00:36:08,166 As time went on, it was added to and added to. 515 00:36:08,249 --> 00:36:13,296 It became a very big living complex. 516 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:17,217 And Sheela moved into her house 517 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:21,304 people who were of use to her. 518 00:36:22,389 --> 00:36:26,893 But if you lived in Jesus Grove, you were at Sheela's beck and call. 519 00:36:27,894 --> 00:36:31,898 Jesus Grove was kind of where the important people 520 00:36:31,981 --> 00:36:35,652 that were making important decisions were hanging out. 521 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,154 Call them Sheela's lieutenants. 522 00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:44,327 She had this insular group that hung on every word 523 00:36:44,411 --> 00:36:48,206 because she would go up and meet with Bhagwan every night. 524 00:36:48,748 --> 00:36:50,792 There's one appointment Sheela never breaks, 525 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:52,585 her nightly meeting with Rajneesh. 526 00:36:52,669 --> 00:36:55,588 No one is permitted to accompany her when she meets with Bhagwan. 527 00:36:55,672 --> 00:36:57,507 They reportedly discuss religious matters 528 00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:59,843 and other affairs that concern Rajneeshpuram. 529 00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:05,306 And it became a kind of a ritual in the evening 530 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:08,435 when Sheela came back from being with Bhagwan, 531 00:37:08,518 --> 00:37:12,188 and she would tell us stories, if you like. 532 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,194 She would tell us about what Bhagwan was saying, 533 00:37:18,278 --> 00:37:21,656 what he wanted of us, what we were going to do next, 534 00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:23,575 why we were going to do it. 535 00:37:24,868 --> 00:37:27,370 And I was swept away. 536 00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:31,541 It was beyond my wildest dreams to ever imagine 537 00:37:31,624 --> 00:37:36,045 that I would fill one of these positions to be so close to Bhagwan. 538 00:37:37,422 --> 00:37:42,260 At some point, I was woken in the night. Eleven o'clock, I was fast asleep in bed 539 00:37:42,343 --> 00:37:47,599 and told to come down to Jesus Grove right away and to bring my wax. 540 00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:51,811 And Sheela wanted me to wax her legs, so I did. 541 00:37:56,232 --> 00:38:00,278 And not long after that, Sheela moved me into her house. 542 00:38:03,656 --> 00:38:08,453 We confronted situations always as a unit. 543 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:11,289 How can we solve the problem? 544 00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:15,502 The more creative we were, 545 00:38:15,585 --> 00:38:20,465 the more destructive the politicians were against us. 546 00:38:21,633 --> 00:38:27,222 It was their hate that forced us to take these steps 547 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:31,518 for self-preservation, self-protection, self-survival. 548 00:38:33,186 --> 00:38:35,396 I understand that you have an announcement 549 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,481 that is in the offing. 550 00:38:36,564 --> 00:38:39,442 - That's correct. - That everyone is waiting patiently for. 551 00:38:39,526 --> 00:38:45,114 Um... Can you maybe give us some idea of when we should expect to hear that? 552 00:38:45,198 --> 00:38:47,575 Everybody is waiting patiently. I would say the same thing. 553 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,285 You need to wait patiently too. 554 00:38:51,746 --> 00:38:54,374 Any indication of the magnitude of that announcement? 555 00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:55,458 It's going to be... 556 00:38:58,044 --> 00:39:00,922 probably the first project world has ever carried out. 557 00:39:03,591 --> 00:39:08,346 - Could you repeat that? I'm sorry... - It's probably one of the first project 558 00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:11,432 that anybody in the world will carry out, is us. 559 00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,060 It will be a world project. 560 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:24,529 People started meeting in Sheela's room, 561 00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:28,241 and a scheme developed of bringing people in. 562 00:39:34,247 --> 00:39:36,291 What's the best time to come here tomorrow? 563 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,794 What you'd have to do is we have tickets right here, right now for the bus. 564 00:39:44,132 --> 00:39:48,928 I was down in Phoenix and in San Diego, 565 00:39:49,012 --> 00:39:51,472 going around to homeless shelters 566 00:39:51,556 --> 00:39:54,434 and standing with an open door to a Greyhound bus, 567 00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:56,269 saying, "Come join us." 568 00:39:57,270 --> 00:40:00,064 There's a beautiful city in Oregon which is blossoming. 569 00:40:00,148 --> 00:40:04,319 And it's happening and it's a city that's not happening anywhere else in the world. 570 00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:05,862 - Ain't no drugs there, right? - No drugs. 571 00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:09,824 - You can't drink? - Well, you get two beers a day. 572 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,492 - Two beers a day. - Yeah. 573 00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,828 All aboard, Rajneeshpuram! 574 00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:21,920 Didn't matter whether you were a woman or what color your skin was, 575 00:40:22,003 --> 00:40:25,423 whether you're a vet, any person were invited. 576 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,842 - Where have you been? - All over the place. 577 00:40:27,926 --> 00:40:31,346 New York, Chicago, um... Texas. 578 00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:35,016 The east coast, west coast, south coast, and everywhere. 579 00:40:35,975 --> 00:40:40,855 I would say, "The bus is here. If you want to come, load up." 580 00:40:43,066 --> 00:40:46,110 I decided to go. I'm sick of living on streets. 581 00:40:46,194 --> 00:40:49,197 It's all I've been doing for the past six months. 582 00:40:57,038 --> 00:41:02,043 So, what evolves is a steady stream of people 583 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:05,004 coming from cities all over America. 584 00:41:06,756 --> 00:41:09,008 Political battles and court cases. 585 00:41:09,092 --> 00:41:11,886 It hasn't exactly been a state of nirvana in the state of Oregon 586 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:15,264 since an Indian guru and his followers settled there in 1981. 587 00:41:17,225 --> 00:41:20,937 The latest controversy is a program to recruit the down and out, the homeless. 588 00:41:21,020 --> 00:41:22,313 Where we getting tickets at? 589 00:41:22,397 --> 00:41:25,191 Just what happens to the homeless people after they arrive 590 00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:28,653 at the Rajneesh complex here remains a Rajneesh secret. 591 00:41:54,137 --> 00:41:56,764 We were taking care of these people. 592 00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,226 These rejects from the society 593 00:42:01,102 --> 00:42:03,730 we had invited to be our guest. 594 00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:07,191 In India, a guest comes, 595 00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:10,570 they can be a form of God. 596 00:42:12,613 --> 00:42:15,908 What we did with them is to clean them up, 597 00:42:15,992 --> 00:42:19,495 clean their open wounds, or give them free dental work, 598 00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:21,706 check their eyes. 599 00:42:23,583 --> 00:42:26,419 We gave them back their self-respect. 600 00:42:31,674 --> 00:42:35,887 Up till now, society had abused these people all their lifetime, 601 00:42:36,763 --> 00:42:38,765 and I wanted to create a situation 602 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,768 the world has never experienced before. 603 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:56,574 Jesus Santos finished a six-year term 604 00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:59,368 at the Colorado State Penitentiary last month. 605 00:42:59,452 --> 00:43:02,371 It provides a sense of community, 606 00:43:02,455 --> 00:43:05,333 and it provides me with people who care for me. 607 00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:07,460 That's something I haven't had in my life. 608 00:43:07,543 --> 00:43:09,796 I think that's something not only people need, 609 00:43:09,879 --> 00:43:11,881 but I think it's the world in general. 610 00:43:12,423 --> 00:43:15,760 I'm just a city boy, you know, but this is, you know, 611 00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,471 what I always wanted to do since I was little, you know? 612 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:20,264 Beautiful. 613 00:43:20,348 --> 00:43:24,018 I love it. Definitely. No doubt. 614 00:43:24,769 --> 00:43:27,063 I don't know, there's really nothing else out there. 615 00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:29,190 You know, it's really beautiful here. 616 00:43:29,941 --> 00:43:34,779 And I decided to follow Bhagwan because it just... 617 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,118 It was a feeling, you know? It's like a feeling everybody gets, I guess. 618 00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:41,869 What's so beautiful about it here? 619 00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:44,747 Well, you don't have no crime. 620 00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:49,127 You don't have to worry about walking down the street and getting stabbed or shot. 621 00:43:49,961 --> 00:43:50,795 You know? 622 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:54,757 It's hard to explain. 623 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,638 And I saw some dramatic changes in those people 624 00:44:00,721 --> 00:44:02,348 in a very short period of time. 625 00:44:02,431 --> 00:44:03,850 It sort of blew me away. 626 00:44:03,933 --> 00:44:06,894 They just changed. They opened up. 627 00:44:07,395 --> 00:44:11,190 They actually started to discover themselves spiritually. 628 00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,112 So, all the press is here, Isabel? 629 00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:21,450 People that you call them street people, 630 00:44:21,534 --> 00:44:24,453 people who have been accused that they have been derelicts 631 00:44:24,537 --> 00:44:28,583 or criminals or winos, that they are not that 632 00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:31,502 and they are respected human beings. 633 00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:36,924 You offer them respect and they respect you ten times more. 634 00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:40,845 The recruiting goes on in every major city in the United States. 635 00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:43,723 Those efforts are getting plenty of nationwide attention. 636 00:44:43,806 --> 00:44:47,143 In Washington D.C., the Rajneeshees continue to recruit street people 637 00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:50,146 with the promise of food and shelter and a free bus ride to Oregon. 638 00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:52,648 The homeless continue to pour into Rajneeshpuram. 639 00:44:52,732 --> 00:44:56,277 ...continue to pour into Oregon. A spokesperson at Rancho Rajneesh 640 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,155 says five more busloads of the homeless arrived there today. 641 00:44:59,238 --> 00:45:03,367 Thirty-five hundred homeless to Rajneeshpuram in 39 days. 642 00:45:03,451 --> 00:45:06,495 By sometime next week, the homeless may outnumber the Rajneeshees 643 00:45:06,579 --> 00:45:07,622 by two to one. 644 00:45:08,122 --> 00:45:11,542 All of them will be part of the new Rajneeshee community, 645 00:45:11,626 --> 00:45:14,545 united in a single trusting conviction, 646 00:45:14,629 --> 00:45:17,882 they believe they are no longer homeless. 647 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:21,052 America has lost its heart. 648 00:45:21,135 --> 00:45:24,347 Its heart is right here in Rajneeshpuram now. It's not out there. 649 00:45:25,097 --> 00:45:27,683 Rajneeshpuram is now saying to America, 650 00:45:27,767 --> 00:45:32,897 "Bring us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free." 651 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:35,441 And we won't humiliate them on Ellis Island. 652 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:37,985 We won't put them in factories in Chicago and New York 653 00:45:38,069 --> 00:45:40,738 and make them work 12-hour days like slaves. 654 00:45:40,821 --> 00:45:43,824 We'll treat them with respect. We'll give them beautiful homes. 655 00:45:43,908 --> 00:45:47,703 We'll give them beautiful clothes to wear. We'll give them a new life. 656 00:45:48,371 --> 00:45:52,833 And that's what I've got. If anything is-- Phew. 657 00:45:52,917 --> 00:45:55,753 If anything is American and democratic, it's Rajneeshpuram. 658 00:45:55,836 --> 00:45:59,924 It's not the outside world. This is home. I love it. Thank you. 659 00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:12,895 Antelope started to change when the ranch doubled in size. 660 00:46:12,979 --> 00:46:19,318 You know, they had hundreds or thousands of homeless people and nobody knew why. 661 00:46:19,819 --> 00:46:22,029 Two weeks ago street people began arriving 662 00:46:22,113 --> 00:46:23,781 at the city of Rajneeshpuram, 663 00:46:23,864 --> 00:46:27,368 and today the question on the minds of many Wasco County residents is, 664 00:46:27,451 --> 00:46:28,577 "What's going on?" 665 00:46:28,661 --> 00:46:31,247 I don't know what they might do. The unknown is what we fear. 666 00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:35,876 And, it's... I just don't know what they'll do next. 667 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,255 It was kind of a mystery, but people just thought they were crazy. 668 00:46:40,089 --> 00:46:42,633 These homeless people were just kind of showing up. 669 00:46:45,219 --> 00:46:49,390 And they'd be sleeping in vacant lots or people's garages 670 00:46:49,473 --> 00:46:51,475 or under a car or something. 671 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,814 It was a magnet for crazy people, you know? 672 00:46:56,897 --> 00:47:00,818 And people had no idea, you know, what they were really doing. 673 00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:04,989 The offer is one a lot of Wasco County residents think is too good to be true. 674 00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:08,034 They're asking themselves why their Rajneeshee neighbors to the south 675 00:47:08,117 --> 00:47:10,161 are suddenly so generous and open with their city. 676 00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:13,414 Six thousand of them from all over the country. 677 00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:17,293 Homeless people brought in here and we're going to give you food, 678 00:47:17,376 --> 00:47:19,503 we're going to give you a roof over your head, 679 00:47:20,379 --> 00:47:23,174 and all you have to do is vote. 680 00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:32,308 The elections of '84 felt like a conspiracy 681 00:47:32,391 --> 00:47:34,351 to shut down Rajneeshpuram. 682 00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:38,105 Politicians were planning to elect 683 00:47:38,189 --> 00:47:41,859 Republican anti-Rajneeshee commission. 684 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:47,281 So, Bhagwan told Sheela it was time to take over Wasco County. 685 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,953 We were to have three Rajneesh representatives on Wasco County, 686 00:47:53,954 --> 00:47:56,040 and he was pushing her really hard. 687 00:47:56,123 --> 00:48:00,169 At that point, if we didn't protect ourselves 688 00:48:00,795 --> 00:48:06,425 with what law allows to bring these homeless people, 689 00:48:08,052 --> 00:48:11,013 uh... it would be stupid on our part. 690 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,435 Tonight for the first time, the Rajneeshees are openly admitting 691 00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:18,521 that they plan to enter their own candidates 692 00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:21,649 for the two Wasco County commissioners' seats up for grabs 693 00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:22,983 in the November election. 694 00:48:23,067 --> 00:48:27,488 After weeks of denials, Ma Anand Sheela has now admitted publicly 695 00:48:27,571 --> 00:48:31,826 that the Rajneeshees' goal is to take over Wasco County. 696 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:35,329 She says the takeover is for her community's self-protection. 697 00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:37,081 So you want to control Wasco County? 698 00:48:37,164 --> 00:48:38,624 Absolutely, now I do. 699 00:48:38,707 --> 00:48:40,876 And I will be the first person to campaign. 700 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,170 It needs to be at a boiling point, 701 00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:47,133 so once and for all it can evaporate. 702 00:48:49,051 --> 00:48:52,721 But a boiling point implies someone is going to get burned. 703 00:48:53,055 --> 00:48:54,515 So what? 704 00:48:54,598 --> 00:49:00,271 For humanity, a little burn here or there, it's worth it. 705 00:49:00,354 --> 00:49:03,691 The shipments of homeless continue to arrive here every day. 706 00:49:03,774 --> 00:49:08,279 So, just how many Rajneesh votes will be cast may not be known until Election Day. 707 00:49:08,737 --> 00:49:09,864 All veterans! 708 00:49:11,949 --> 00:49:13,909 All veterans to the desk, please! 709 00:49:15,578 --> 00:49:16,996 This is a Rajneeshee videotape 710 00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:18,414 of last night's community meeting. 711 00:49:18,497 --> 00:49:22,626 Rajneeshees say 7,000 were there, Rajneeshees and street people alike. 712 00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:27,423 We have come home, and we have done the right thing. 713 00:49:27,506 --> 00:49:30,509 The master has brought us home to protect us 714 00:49:30,593 --> 00:49:35,472 from the neo-colonial, imperialistic, technocratic society 715 00:49:35,556 --> 00:49:37,433 of the United States of aggression. 716 00:49:37,516 --> 00:49:42,146 There's a lot of people out there that are supposedly Christians. 717 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,610 That have not given us this opportunity that you've given us. 718 00:49:47,693 --> 00:49:50,362 They told me they wouldn't have me. 719 00:49:50,571 --> 00:49:53,949 We got a home. Let's keep it. 720 00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:57,661 And the ones that don't want it, get the hell out! 721 00:50:04,210 --> 00:50:07,338 The fact that they had brought all these people in, 722 00:50:07,421 --> 00:50:10,299 6,000 of them from all over the country, 723 00:50:10,382 --> 00:50:13,677 suddenly opened eyes to the fact that, okay, 724 00:50:13,761 --> 00:50:16,388 they took over Antelope, that's Antelope's problem. 725 00:50:16,889 --> 00:50:19,225 They're going to take over Wasco County. 726 00:50:19,308 --> 00:50:22,686 That might be a little bigger deal than just Wasco County's problem 727 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,483 because they get the county, are they going to get the state next? 728 00:50:27,816 --> 00:50:31,779 Good evening. People in Wasco County met tonight trying to fight the Rajneeshees. 729 00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:35,282 It was the biggest ever anti-Rajneesh rally, about 2,000 people. 730 00:50:35,366 --> 00:50:37,868 They are angry, frustrated, and fearful. 731 00:50:37,952 --> 00:50:41,580 They see recent developments at Rajneeshpuram as a threat to them, 732 00:50:41,664 --> 00:50:43,040 their friends, their state. 733 00:50:43,123 --> 00:50:44,917 There were so many people here tonight 734 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,962 they spilled out into the hallways of The Dalles High School. 735 00:50:48,045 --> 00:50:52,132 Inside speakers told the people of Wasco County why they should be voting 736 00:50:52,216 --> 00:50:54,051 and why they should be outraged. 737 00:50:55,844 --> 00:50:58,764 They brought these people to take over 738 00:50:58,847 --> 00:51:01,809 the central part of the state of Oregon. 739 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:09,149 Now, I want to tell you folks that there is no way that we can stop them, 740 00:51:09,233 --> 00:51:15,239 when you have counties that only have 570 and 800 voters. 741 00:51:17,574 --> 00:51:19,702 I think it was a done deal. 742 00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:23,580 If all 6,000 of them had voted as a block, they couldn't beat them. 743 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:27,126 When they've made statements that within the next 15 years, 744 00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:29,336 before the year 2000, they'll control of the state. 745 00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:30,754 I think that's a very great threat. 746 00:51:30,838 --> 00:51:34,550 And the way our voting laws are, I'm-- I'm scared about it really. 747 00:51:35,134 --> 00:51:38,012 If they can field six or 7,000 votes, 748 00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:40,556 they'll come on strong with some write-in candidate. 749 00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:44,018 They're a group of people that don't like to be defeated. 750 00:51:45,102 --> 00:51:48,981 Is it possible for the Rajneeshees to take over Wasco County? 751 00:51:49,565 --> 00:51:52,985 They could very easily take over Wasco County, yes. 752 00:51:55,237 --> 00:51:59,283 We became concerned working with the secretary of state 753 00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:03,245 that we needed to take steps to make sure that only people 754 00:52:03,329 --> 00:52:06,373 who were legitimate voters in Oregon, 755 00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:11,754 people who were in Oregon and intended to be residents of Oregon would vote. 756 00:52:11,837 --> 00:52:15,132 How is it legal for people to step off a bus and literally vote? 757 00:52:15,215 --> 00:52:19,136 As long as you're a U.S. citizen, 18 years of age on election day, 758 00:52:19,219 --> 00:52:23,057 and a resident of the state of Oregon for 20 days, you can register to vote. 759 00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:27,936 There were very few tools available to us or the secretary of state 760 00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:33,317 because Oregon then and now was in the forefront of easy voting. 761 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,111 Let's assume that your worst fears are correct, 762 00:52:36,195 --> 00:52:38,697 that all these people are now going to go and vote. 763 00:52:38,781 --> 00:52:42,242 As I said before, you helped pass the kind of legislation that makes it possible. 764 00:52:42,326 --> 00:52:44,203 Maybe they don't like you, they vote you out of office, 765 00:52:44,286 --> 00:52:45,412 that's the American way, isn't it? 766 00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:48,832 It's ironic that in looking through the statutes now 767 00:52:48,916 --> 00:52:50,751 and watching buses roll by, 768 00:52:50,834 --> 00:52:54,254 Oregon law, at this point, will not prohibit that. 769 00:52:54,588 --> 00:52:58,592 American way is that Constitution should be upheld 770 00:52:58,675 --> 00:53:01,595 and anybody who wants to vote should be allowed to vote. 771 00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:04,681 Today it was Republican Donna Zajonc on the offensive. 772 00:53:04,848 --> 00:53:07,518 Not only does she want to challenge voter registration, 773 00:53:07,601 --> 00:53:11,647 but she wants the attorney general to see if allowing recently arrived street people 774 00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:14,358 to vote in Wasco County, might be unconstitutional. 775 00:53:16,568 --> 00:53:19,154 Anyone who violates election laws will be prosecuted 776 00:53:19,238 --> 00:53:22,366 if it comes to our attention, and we're taking every step possible 777 00:53:22,449 --> 00:53:26,453 to ensure that we'll be in a position to prosecute successfully. 778 00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:29,748 There's no crime. That's what I said, there is no crime. 779 00:53:30,249 --> 00:53:33,544 It is residing with intent to vote. 780 00:53:34,837 --> 00:53:36,213 I mean, it's simply no crime. 781 00:53:36,296 --> 00:53:38,799 Sure. They moved in, they were brought there, 782 00:53:38,882 --> 00:53:41,510 they were sympathetic to the community, of course, 783 00:53:41,927 --> 00:53:43,303 so they wanted to vote. 784 00:53:43,387 --> 00:53:47,015 As soon as these people came, maybe they haven't voted in years, 785 00:53:47,099 --> 00:53:50,644 but when they heard their right to vote was being threatened, they all said, 786 00:53:50,727 --> 00:53:52,104 "Hell with it, I'm gonna vote." 787 00:53:52,187 --> 00:53:55,441 They try to say I'm a street person, a derelict. They try to take my rights. 788 00:53:55,524 --> 00:53:59,862 That's my birthright, I can vote. I come here and they try to say I can't vote. 789 00:53:59,945 --> 00:54:01,655 I'm going to go down there and vote. 790 00:54:01,738 --> 00:54:03,240 We're Americans here! 791 00:54:04,283 --> 00:54:06,285 And all... 792 00:54:06,368 --> 00:54:11,039 And all of us have a right, a birthright to vote. 793 00:54:14,293 --> 00:54:16,628 Next Monday, the anti-Rajneesh group 794 00:54:16,712 --> 00:54:19,673 plans to march on Salem to ask Governor Atiyeh 795 00:54:19,756 --> 00:54:23,218 to declare a state of emergency because of Rajneesh activities. 796 00:54:23,302 --> 00:54:29,516 Our America is being destructed, is being sold by people 797 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,645 who do not fear God and who care only about money. 798 00:54:33,729 --> 00:54:34,730 Amen! 799 00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:39,401 But I want to tell you, the freedom that we have 800 00:54:39,902 --> 00:54:42,196 was not paved with money. 801 00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:44,698 It was the blood of the pioneers. 802 00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:04,218 We now call upon the governor to proclaim that Rajneeshpuram 803 00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:08,680 be put in its proper place as a non-existent city 804 00:55:08,764 --> 00:55:11,058 and to disarm this cult's army now. 805 00:55:15,062 --> 00:55:18,524 You tell your governors, you tell your attorney general 806 00:55:18,607 --> 00:55:21,652 and all your bigoted pigs outside, 807 00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:24,238 they touch any of our people, 808 00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:28,033 I will have 15 of their heads, and I mean business. 809 00:55:31,787 --> 00:55:37,000 I tell you the county is so fucking bigoted, it deserves to be taken over. 810 00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:00,941 A major development involving the Rajneeshees 811 00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,484 and voting in Wasco County. 812 00:56:04,945 --> 00:56:07,906 - Good evening, everybody, I'm Kim Singer. - And I'm Gary Hill. 813 00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:10,993 Today, the Rajneeshees took a bus load of homeless people to The Dalles 814 00:56:11,076 --> 00:56:13,078 to register them in Wasco County to vote. 815 00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:20,085 But they were in for a surprise. 816 00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:43,066 Rajneeshee street people arrived in The Dalles 817 00:56:43,150 --> 00:56:44,443 to register as voters. 818 00:56:46,820 --> 00:56:49,948 They were met by Sue Profit, Wasco County clerk. 819 00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,994 Okay, I'm going to read a statement. Can you all hear me? 820 00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:57,706 - Yes. - Okay. Please listen very carefully. 821 00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:05,964 "Because I have reason to believe there are organized efforts 822 00:57:06,048 --> 00:57:08,884 to fraudulently register people in Wasco County to vote 823 00:57:08,967 --> 00:57:12,971 in the November general election, I have decided to do a blanket rejection 824 00:57:13,055 --> 00:57:16,141 of all new voter registrations in Wasco County." 825 00:57:18,018 --> 00:57:21,355 A busload of 30 Rajneeshees and homeless men were turned back 826 00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:24,358 at the door of the Wasco County clerk's office in The Dalles this morning 827 00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:25,984 as they tried to register to vote. 828 00:57:26,068 --> 00:57:28,403 The county suspended the right to vote. 829 00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:31,406 One of the few times that's ever happened in the United States, 830 00:57:31,490 --> 00:57:34,826 in one of the most arrogant and powerful ways I had ever seen. 831 00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:38,914 That really-- I mean, I got fired up about that one, 832 00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:43,293 about how these people might as well be stomping on the Constitution. 833 00:57:43,377 --> 00:57:45,462 You make these people spend their whole day coming here 834 00:57:45,545 --> 00:57:47,756 and you're rejecting people from their right to vote. 835 00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:51,009 That is a gross misinterpretation of the law and you should know it. 836 00:57:51,093 --> 00:57:53,679 We have contributed to America to its fullest. 837 00:57:54,054 --> 00:57:56,598 We intend, because we are Americans, 838 00:57:56,682 --> 00:58:02,521 to participate in this political system and exercise the inalienable right. 839 00:58:03,146 --> 00:58:04,898 The inalienable right. 840 00:58:08,068 --> 00:58:11,488 I don't know what's going to happen, but it's-- It's not going to be good. 841 00:58:18,954 --> 00:58:22,958 It was really as though a bomb went off in the middle of the community. 842 00:58:23,917 --> 00:58:29,840 The county refused to register any of these people as voters. 843 00:58:32,426 --> 00:58:33,593 It was a catastrophe. 844 00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:40,183 We had literally thousands of homeless people causing complete chaos. 845 00:58:40,767 --> 00:58:43,020 It became clear that we had a hornet's nest 846 00:58:43,103 --> 00:58:44,980 right in the middle of the community. 847 00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:52,696 One of them, a very big man... 848 00:58:54,823 --> 00:58:57,951 was just completely crazy, rampaging around, 849 00:58:58,035 --> 00:59:00,287 breaking things, screaming and shouting, 850 00:59:00,370 --> 00:59:03,206 stopping cars, pulling open the driver's door, 851 00:59:03,290 --> 00:59:05,876 pulling out the drivers, throwing them on the ground. 852 00:59:06,084 --> 00:59:07,669 And Sheela heard what was happening. 853 00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:12,132 She came down from her house 854 00:59:12,215 --> 00:59:15,427 and went right up to him and spoke to him. 855 00:59:15,927 --> 00:59:18,555 And he was foaming at the mouth. 856 00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:22,434 Took me by my throat, 857 00:59:23,018 --> 00:59:24,478 and he wanted to kill me. 858 00:59:25,979 --> 00:59:29,858 He grabbed her by the neck, lifted her up off the ground and shook her violently. 859 00:59:30,901 --> 00:59:32,611 And the whole Peace Force, 860 00:59:33,862 --> 00:59:38,283 no one can move a step forward. 861 00:59:41,536 --> 00:59:43,830 I was certain I was going to die that day. 862 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,794 By this time, one of the doctors had come. 863 00:59:49,503 --> 00:59:51,004 They sedated him, 864 00:59:51,922 --> 00:59:55,258 put him in a car, drove him off Rajneeshpuram, 865 00:59:55,342 --> 00:59:58,553 off the ranch and set him out on a park bench. 866 01:00:01,848 --> 01:00:05,477 In an effort to reduce the chaos, 867 01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:09,773 it was decided that the way 868 01:00:09,856 --> 01:00:12,567 to deal with this situation 869 01:00:12,651 --> 01:00:15,529 was to sedate all of the homeless people. 870 01:00:16,738 --> 01:00:18,824 So, Haldol, a sedative, 871 01:00:20,367 --> 01:00:24,579 was put into the beer that was served to the homeless people 872 01:00:24,663 --> 01:00:26,039 with their evening meal. 873 01:00:27,415 --> 01:00:29,918 Nobody asked them if that was okay. 874 01:00:30,001 --> 01:00:32,629 They did not know that they were being drugged. 875 01:00:46,518 --> 01:00:48,979 I'd like to say one thing into this camera right now. 876 01:00:49,062 --> 01:00:50,564 You've got some good beer here. 877 01:01:29,728 --> 01:01:33,940 We had all of these attacks going on, and it didn't look good. 878 01:01:34,024 --> 01:01:37,194 By then, they had screwed us a few times. 879 01:01:38,403 --> 01:01:42,157 And Sheela wanted to hurt them back. 880 01:01:46,411 --> 01:01:48,997 Sheela called different people to her room 881 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,667 to discuss other possible ways... 882 01:01:54,044 --> 01:01:55,378 to win the election. 883 01:01:55,462 --> 01:01:59,883 The conversations were taking a very bizarre turn. 884 01:02:01,968 --> 01:02:05,013 Sheela described herself this night as the mother of these men. 885 01:02:05,096 --> 01:02:07,974 What followed was a pep rally in the familiar style of Sheela. 886 01:02:09,601 --> 01:02:15,106 That woman, that bitch, has made the worst mistake in her life. 887 01:02:19,903 --> 01:02:20,904 You know why? 888 01:02:21,947 --> 01:02:24,157 Because she's afraid, 889 01:02:24,241 --> 01:02:26,326 she's scared shit. 890 01:02:29,287 --> 01:02:33,833 And I'm pointing fingers at them that they could not do it. 891 01:02:35,543 --> 01:02:39,381 They didn't have the courage to accept you as people, 892 01:02:40,090 --> 01:02:41,925 and you fought for them! 893 01:02:42,968 --> 01:02:44,427 You fought for them! 894 01:02:45,053 --> 01:02:46,805 I'm going to fight for you! 895 01:03:20,588 --> 01:03:22,674 That devotion to the master, 896 01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:27,971 devotion to building that city in the wilderness, 897 01:03:28,513 --> 01:03:30,807 led some people... 898 01:03:31,182 --> 01:03:33,601 to allow Sheela... 899 01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:38,315 to mislead them 900 01:03:38,398 --> 01:03:41,735 into doing things that ought not to be done. 901 01:03:42,610 --> 01:03:44,112 Now, instead of... 902 01:03:46,281 --> 01:03:51,828 trying to trick your way through or shout your way through 903 01:03:51,911 --> 01:03:56,458 or force your way through to get what you wanted, 904 01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:57,792 now it was different. 905 01:03:57,876 --> 01:04:02,088 Now there was talk of killing people to get what you wanted, 906 01:04:02,172 --> 01:04:03,840 to get them out of the way. 907 01:04:04,758 --> 01:04:08,178 I was holding my breath and hoping this wasn't real. 908 01:04:17,937 --> 01:04:20,940 There's darkness in all of us. All of us have our dark side. 909 01:04:22,233 --> 01:04:24,652 That's just the nature of being human. 910 01:04:28,156 --> 01:04:29,699 It doesn't make you a bad person. 81793

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