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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,779 --> 00:00:13,084 VERNON REID It was a time of peace and war, love and hate. 2 00:00:13,151 --> 00:00:16,354 A time of protest and exploration. 3 00:00:16,421 --> 00:00:19,257 No other era speaks to us like the '60s. 4 00:00:19,357 --> 00:00:23,761 And nowhere is its voice heard louder than at The Museum at Bethel Woods. 5 00:00:24,963 --> 00:00:26,865 There are no words for the exhibits inside. 6 00:00:26,965 --> 00:00:28,066 It was amazing. 7 00:00:28,166 --> 00:00:30,201 I mean , I call it a time machine, man. 8 00:00:30,335 --> 00:00:33,538 It just brought back all the turmoil that was going on at the time 9 00:00:33,605 --> 00:00:36,341 and the need to just absolutely release it. 10 00:00:37,175 --> 00:00:40,812 H I , I'm Vernon Reid. Welcome to The Museum at Bethel Woods, 11 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:43,748 where we'll take an unforgettable journey through the tumultuous '60s 12 00:00:43,815 --> 00:00:47,752 and the three-day concert phenomenon that defined a generation , 13 00:00:47,819 --> 00:00:49,988 the Woodstock Music and Art Fair. 14 00:00:53,658 --> 00:00:56,394 How was Woodstock. You want to know how it was? 15 00:00:56,461 --> 00:01:00,531 Go to The Museum at Bethel Woods and you'll be at Woodstock, my friend. 16 00:01:00,832 --> 00:01:04,235 In August 1969, over 00, 000 music lovers 17 00:01:04,302 --> 00:01:06,371 and counter-culture crusaders came here, 18 00:01:06,437 --> 00:01:08,840 to Max Yasgur's Farm in Bethel, New York, 19 00:01:08,907 --> 00:01:12,043 to rock with stars like Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix. 20 00:01:13,011 --> 00:01:15,647 40 years later, thousands of visitors from around the world 21 00:01:15,713 --> 00:01:19,150 come to the same spot to enjoy a state of the art museum 22 00:01:19,250 --> 00:01:23,087 whose artifacts, exhibits and stories give us a firsthand look 23 00:01:23,154 --> 00:01:25,390 inside the Woodstock experience. 24 00:01:25,456 --> 00:01:27,559 They have a piece of the fence still in there 25 00:01:27,625 --> 00:01:31,296 and , you know, a huge bus just staring at you when you walk in , 26 00:01:31,396 --> 00:01:33,431 and it's as good as somebody my age 27 00:01:33,498 --> 00:01:36,401 could get to having experienced it and been there. 28 00:01:36,834 --> 00:01:41,005 Ironically, the legendary festival wasn't really held in the town of Woodstock, 29 00:01:41,072 --> 00:01:44,709 but only two hours north from New York City, here in Bethel, New York. 30 00:01:44,776 --> 00:01:48,012 These rolling hills were the actual site of the three-day festival 31 00:01:48,112 --> 00:01:50,682 and now they're home to the museum and concert pavilion, 32 00:01:50,748 --> 00:01:53,151 all part of the Bethel Woods Center for the Arts. 33 00:01:53,217 --> 00:01:55,587 Through personal stories, award winning films, 34 00:01:55,653 --> 00:01:58,156 original artifacts and educational events, 35 00:01:58,222 --> 00:02:01,392 The Museum has everyone, from baby boomers to millennials, 36 00:02:01,492 --> 00:02:04,629 talking about the political and cultural transformation of the '60s 37 00:02:04,729 --> 00:02:08,232 and how the issues of the decade still resonate today. 38 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:11,135 But as much as the movements and events of the decade 39 00:02:11,202 --> 00:02:13,304 provided a lasting impression, 40 00:02:13,404 --> 00:02:16,607 nothing from the '60s left a deeper imprint than its music. 41 00:02:17,108 --> 00:02:21,613 With films like A Musical Revolution and Woodstock, the Music, 42 00:02:21,679 --> 00:02:25,650 as well as interactive exhibits such as The Music After Woodstock, 43 00:02:25,717 --> 00:02:28,953 The Museum gives a deeper look at the influence of the era's artists 44 00:02:29,053 --> 00:02:31,155 and their songs on our world. 45 00:02:32,056 --> 00:02:33,091 One of my favorites is 46 00:02:33,157 --> 00:02:35,793 the breathtaking immersion film , The Festival Experience. 47 00:02:35,893 --> 00:02:39,230 A spectacular 270 degree display of the music, 48 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:41,299 people, sights and sounds of Woodstock, 49 00:02:41,366 --> 00:02:44,569 literally placing the visitor in the middle of all the action. 50 00:02:49,407 --> 00:02:50,875 And even though they came for the concert, 51 00:02:50,975 --> 00:02:53,277 many say that one of their lasting memories from Woodstock 52 00:02:53,378 --> 00:02:54,645 was getting there. 53 00:02:54,712 --> 00:02:58,683 Thousands came by car, but there was nothing like taking the bus. 54 00:02:58,750 --> 00:03:01,019 Loved the bus. Thought the bus was great. 55 00:03:01,052 --> 00:03:05,390 I was here in 1969 and there were buses like that all over the place. 56 00:03:05,456 --> 00:03:07,859 One of the museum's most popular exhibits, 57 00:03:07,925 --> 00:03:10,128 this psychedelic set of wheels is the type of bus 58 00:03:10,228 --> 00:03:12,363 that some concertgoers rode to Woodstock. 59 00:03:12,463 --> 00:03:14,432 There was a carload of people getting ready to go to Woodstock. 60 00:03:14,499 --> 00:03:17,402 They said , "Do you wanna go?" So I jumped in the car and went. 61 00:03:17,468 --> 00:03:19,871 They were coming from all over the country. 62 00:03:19,937 --> 00:03:23,007 I think I probably packed a change of clothes. 63 00:03:23,141 --> 00:03:25,009 Several cases of beer. 64 00:03:25,677 --> 00:03:31,149 Whether it's recalling our own wild rides or reliving the excitement of the '60s, 65 00:03:31,249 --> 00:03:35,353 here at The Museum at Bethel Woods, we can all be a part of the Woodstock legacy. 66 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:37,822 Look at what we thought we could do. All right? 67 00:03:37,889 --> 00:03:41,059 For that weekend in August of 1969, 68 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:44,328 we really thought we were gonna all get together and change the world. 69 00:03:44,429 --> 00:03:45,830 And we probably did. 70 00:03:45,897 --> 00:03:48,800 And, I think, for the most part, we did some good things. 71 00:03:48,866 --> 00:03:52,303 We weren't perfect, we didn't give you a perfect new world, 72 00:03:52,370 --> 00:03:54,305 but now it's your turn. 1 00:04:55,635 --> 00:04:57,145 MICHAE WADEIGH It was a pretty simple decision. 2 00:04:57,228 --> 00:04:58,486 This was the best there was. 3 00:04:58,571 --> 00:05:00,415 There was no competitor at all. 4 00:05:00,583 --> 00:05:04,735 It had a quick-change lens here, a super ingénue lens. 5 00:05:06,202 --> 00:05:09,724 And of course, I had a favorite, a very short wide-angle lens 6 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:13,456 that I'd start up here, and in just two or three moves, 7 00:05:13,541 --> 00:05:16,937 in two or three seconds, you could quickly get the zoom off, 8 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:19,788 rotate the wide angle around and get on and ... 9 00:05:19,873 --> 00:05:21,298 Some people's favorite shots at Woodstock 10 00:05:22,598 --> 00:05:24,820 -were done with that wide-angle lens. -You'd remove the 5. 9. 11 00:05:24,905 --> 00:05:28,007 Because you could get right very, very close to the performers, 12 00:05:28,092 --> 00:05:30,817 and it gave you a tremendous sense of depth and being there 13 00:05:30,859 --> 00:05:32,284 right on the stage with them, 14 00:05:32,369 --> 00:05:36,016 and , of course, then you had this magazine back here 15 00:05:36,059 --> 00:05:38,156 that came off in a shot, you know. 16 00:05:38,239 --> 00:05:43,229 Its liability was if you didn't very carefully get the loop right, it could jam. 17 00:05:43,271 --> 00:05:47,087 And you couldn't really hear it run out effectively. 18 00:05:47,129 --> 00:05:50,190 You lived in fear and dread 19 00:05:50,274 --> 00:05:53,965 that actually you'd put the mag on , threaded it up, 20 00:05:54,048 --> 00:05:57,570 and you were running, but of course, with Hendrix and all those loud acts, 21 00:05:57,654 --> 00:06:00,757 you couldn't possibly hear whether in fact you had a jam. 22 00:06:01,218 --> 00:06:05,035 U nfortunately, it was really not well-balanced. 23 00:06:05,076 --> 00:06:08,640 Your shoulder is way back here, so the bulk of the weight was forward. 24 00:06:08,725 --> 00:06:11,953 So I used to be fairly strong. 25 00:06:11,995 --> 00:06:17,153 But it taxed you like a mother to really hold it that long. 26 00:06:17,237 --> 00:06:19,837 But you couldn't get the shots with the tripods. 27 00:06:19,921 --> 00:06:21,976 It was absolutely impossible. 28 00:06:22,017 --> 00:06:25,289 It has a footage counter here that never seemed to work, 29 00:06:25,372 --> 00:06:27,217 never seemed to be dependable. 30 00:06:27,301 --> 00:06:31,410 But this idea that you could very quickly take on and off the mag. 31 00:06:31,494 --> 00:06:33,549 And then you see down here at the bottom , 32 00:06:33,591 --> 00:06:36,862 this is where either an AC motor or a DC motor attach. 33 00:06:36,946 --> 00:06:39,462 So it's a beautiful modular unit. 34 00:06:39,504 --> 00:06:43,151 I mean , you can even say today, this is a great, great beautiful design. 35 00:06:44,116 --> 00:06:46,632 Everybody had to use Eclair cameras 36 00:06:46,674 --> 00:06:50,742 so that we had absolutely interchangeable equipment. 37 00:06:50,825 --> 00:06:53,887 Everybody had to have 110-volt motors. 38 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:57,409 And where do you find , like, a dozen 110-volt motors 39 00:06:57,451 --> 00:07:01,728 in New York City for Éclairs? And you don't. It's almost impossible. 40 00:07:01,770 --> 00:07:07,053 We needed 50 different magazines so that we could change film , 41 00:07:07,138 --> 00:07:09,779 raw stock, under the stage. 42 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:13,008 The reason for the electric motor was, 43 00:07:13,092 --> 00:07:16,362 all the cameras had to run in sync or else it would never be editable. 44 00:07:16,447 --> 00:07:19,675 We even looked for, I remember one of the last things on my list 45 00:07:19,717 --> 00:07:22,066 was to try and find an electronic clock, 46 00:07:22,149 --> 00:07:23,911 you know, that spinned it over by seconds. 47 00:07:23,953 --> 00:07:28,859 It would be big. And we could ask every camera guy on stage to, 48 00:07:28,943 --> 00:07:31,752 at the top of his roll , at least, take a shot of that, 49 00:07:31,794 --> 00:07:34,562 so that we'd have some common syncing point. 50 00:07:34,645 --> 00:07:37,958 We could not find anything that we could use. 51 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:43,620 So eventually, the whole post production became a mess of trying to sync it. 52 00:07:43,703 --> 00:07:46,722 Well , then , of course, we had a lot of equipment problems. 53 00:07:46,764 --> 00:07:49,658 Especially when the rain came along . I remember this. 54 00:07:49,741 --> 00:07:54,228 The camera, when you put this up on your shoulder, 55 00:07:54,271 --> 00:07:56,283 the motor hits you right in the shoulder. 56 00:07:56,325 --> 00:07:59,093 And we had to wrap towels around the motor 57 00:07:59,177 --> 00:08:01,231 because it got so bloody hot. 58 00:08:01,315 --> 00:08:04,669 At one point the AC that was being supplied 59 00:08:04,754 --> 00:08:06,222 was nearly twice the voltage, 60 00:08:06,305 --> 00:08:09,660 so we thought, "Well , it's gonna melt the damn coils, 61 00:08:09,701 --> 00:08:12,595 "and the cameras will go entirely." 62 00:08:12,721 --> 00:08:14,944 -But I remember real pain . -Yeah. And shock. 63 00:08:15,027 --> 00:08:17,250 And agony and shocks, of course. 64 00:08:17,333 --> 00:08:19,850 You know, just from the cameras. 1 00:08:28,989 --> 00:08:30,036 Here it is Tuesday, now. 2 00:08:31,208 --> 00:08:35,607 The music is gonna start on Friday. There is one missing ingredient. 3 00:08:36,151 --> 00:08:37,492 The raw stock. 5 00:08:39,041 --> 00:08:42,476 Michael is on the phone, it's Wednesday, 6 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,947 and he's saying , "Where the hell is the raw stock?" 7 00:08:45,031 --> 00:08:49,513 And I said I called Kodak on Monday. We're buying it. Where was the money? 8 00:08:50,476 --> 00:08:55,293 He had not been paid yet for 30 Days to Survival. 9 00:08:55,334 --> 00:08:57,304 That was the only source of the funds. 10 00:08:57,765 --> 00:09:02,916 Got the * 15, 000, put it in the bank. We now had * 17, 000, right? 11 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:08,110 Just almost enough to buy the raw stock at the time. 12 00:09:08,194 --> 00:09:11,293 So I called him on Monday saying we were going to place a large order 13 00:09:11,377 --> 00:09:14,895 of 721 , 722 and 7255. 14 00:09:16,278 --> 00:09:18,036 And I didn't know exactly what the quantity was. 15 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:19,796 I said , "Do you have it all in stock?" 16 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,315 "Yes, don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. We've got it all in stock. 17 00:09:24,027 --> 00:09:26,246 "Come Wednesday morning ." 18 00:09:26,288 --> 00:09:29,890 Now I've got the money in the bank. I can actually write a check. 19 00:09:29,974 --> 00:09:32,948 And I called them and I said I want umpteen rolls of this and that 20 00:09:32,990 --> 00:09:34,120 and the other. 21 00:09:34,581 --> 00:09:37,472 And like ten minutes later they call me back and they say, 22 00:09:37,555 --> 00:09:39,901 "All we have are two boxes worth ." 23 00:09:39,985 --> 00:09:43,880 We need 25 boxes in order to... 24 00:09:43,922 --> 00:09:47,189 We calculated , if we've got five cameras shooting 25 00:09:47,231 --> 00:09:49,241 and they're shooting for twelve hours a day, 26 00:09:49,283 --> 00:09:52,886 we are going to need a hell of a lot of raw stock. 27 00:09:53,053 --> 00:09:57,702 But I had only access to two boxes in New York. 28 00:09:57,786 --> 00:10:01,891 When you see those helicopters in the movie coming in with 29 00:10:01,974 --> 00:10:03,776 Arlo Guthrie and the performers, 30 00:10:03,985 --> 00:10:08,760 they're carrying our raw stock all they way through on a staggered basis 31 00:10:08,844 --> 00:10:10,728 until Saturday noon. 32 00:10:11,357 --> 00:10:13,325 They were shooting it so fast, 33 00:10:13,367 --> 00:10:15,713 and the helicopters were coming in and everything. 34 00:10:15,754 --> 00:10:19,860 I mean , it was all we could do to get it to the assistants 35 00:10:19,902 --> 00:10:22,708 who were under the stage in the mud. 36 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:23,923 It was unreal. 1 00:10:39,757 --> 00:10:42,626 We asked Michael Lang and John Roberts to build a lip 2 00:10:42,667 --> 00:10:44,331 on the front of the stage. 3 00:10:44,371 --> 00:10:47,033 So that Michael and the other guys could , with his right hand , 4 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,316 put an elbow on the stage, stand on the ang plywood 5 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:55,183 and have an absolutely ideal , perfect angle for this, 6 00:10:55,266 --> 00:10:57,886 and then leap on stage if it was necessary. 7 00:10:57,969 --> 00:11:01,087 And the tripod conveyed none of the energy. 8 00:11:01,129 --> 00:11:04,913 The tripod fixed you in a position. 9 00:11:04,955 --> 00:11:09,737 The ability for Michael and the other guys to get up on stage. 10 00:11:09,778 --> 00:11:12,938 I mean , the one.. . When you see it in the director's cut, 11 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:17,096 the one sequence with Bob H ite of Canned Heat 12 00:11:17,138 --> 00:11:22,003 is one entire magazine, uncut with the 5. 9 lens. 13 00:11:22,086 --> 00:11:27,242 It is just so gorgeous and such an exemplary manifestation 14 00:11:27,574 --> 00:11:30,070 of not only Michael's eye and his agility, 15 00:11:30,277 --> 00:11:33,271 but the camera's ability to register... 16 00:11:33,355 --> 00:11:34,560 I mean, when the guy comes up 17 00:11:34,644 --> 00:11:38,843 and reaches into Bob ite package of cigarettes 18 00:11:38,885 --> 00:11:41,047 and takes a cigarette out and puts it back in, 19 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:44,166 I mean , you know you're right there all the time. 20 00:11:44,249 --> 00:11:45,538 -I mean , it was marvelous. -Yeah. 21 00:11:45,621 --> 00:11:50,653 For film making , the uncut shots are really just fabulous, I think, 22 00:11:50,694 --> 00:11:54,852 because it conveys a sense of linear reality. 23 00:11:54,894 --> 00:11:58,054 And then what Dale is saying , with the wide-angle lens 24 00:11:58,137 --> 00:12:02,960 which increases the impression of how close you are to someone 25 00:12:03,002 --> 00:12:06,828 and what you can see around you , it's really like being there on the stage. 26 00:12:06,869 --> 00:12:11,775 And , of course, now, the cameramen don't really get that kind of intimacy often 27 00:12:11,817 --> 00:12:14,229 or they have to wear black and stay out of the shots. 28 00:12:14,313 --> 00:12:18,470 So, of course, many times you see all of us in the frame. 29 00:12:18,554 --> 00:12:21,298 But that's the spirit of the event. What's the difference? 31 00:13:01,632 --> 00:13:02,837 Yeah! 33 00:13:05,042 --> 00:13:08,202 Ladies and gentlemen, Canned Heat! 1 00:13:20,625 --> 00:13:21,626 MICHAE ANG The lineup was the lineup. 2 00:13:21,709 --> 00:13:24,961 I think it was pretty much as it happened, 3 00:13:25,002 --> 00:13:26,045 except it happened on steroids. 4 00:13:26,295 --> 00:13:29,296 We wanted everybody we loved , and everybody that we found along the way 5 00:13:29,338 --> 00:13:31,173 that we thought everybody else would love. 7 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,639 JOCKO MARCEI NO As we were making a little buzz, Hendrix came down to see us. 8 00:13:44,722 --> 00:13:48,266 John Bonham came down to see us and Frank Zappa came down to see us. 9 00:13:48,432 --> 00:13:50,225 Kornfeld and ang were hanging out, 10 00:13:50,308 --> 00:13:52,185 and they said, "We're doing Woodstock." 11 00:13:52,269 --> 00:13:53,352 And I had been hearing about this. 12 00:13:53,435 --> 00:13:54,728 I knew the lineup was getting big. 13 00:13:54,978 --> 00:13:57,980 Sly was going to be on it. Hendrix was going to be on it. 14 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,816 And I said to the manager, "Yes, go find that guy and tell him yes." 15 00:14:01,857 --> 00:14:03,650 MICHAE CARABEO I think we had played a few colleges 16 00:14:03,692 --> 00:14:05,234 and stuff like that. Outdoor things. 17 00:14:05,818 --> 00:14:07,318 And there was this thing going on in Woodstock. 18 00:14:07,485 --> 00:14:10,946 No big deal to us. It was way too far from San Francisco anyway. 19 00:14:11,029 --> 00:14:13,197 Somebody had called . It might've been Michael Lang , 20 00:14:13,281 --> 00:14:15,699 who was producing the Woodstock thing. 21 00:14:15,782 --> 00:14:16,824 Says, "Hey, we need a favor. 22 00:14:16,865 --> 00:14:18,325 "We need you to get somebody else on the bill." 23 00:14:18,409 --> 00:14:20,159 And in fact, we weren't actually going to do Woodstock. 24 00:14:20,285 --> 00:14:24,704 We were in the middle of a tour, and the agent said , 25 00:14:24,787 --> 00:14:26,079 "They're doing this festival , 26 00:14:26,162 --> 00:14:28,539 "they're anticipating probably 50, 000 people. 27 00:14:29,498 --> 00:14:30,957 "Would you like to do it?" 28 00:14:30,999 --> 00:14:32,333 And when we heard what they were offering , 29 00:14:32,417 --> 00:14:33,458 we turned it down. 30 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:36,252 But Frank Barcelona, our agent, kept on at us, 31 00:14:36,335 --> 00:14:38,670 'cause he said, "You've got to do it, 'cause they've added Janis, 32 00:14:38,753 --> 00:14:41,130 "they've added J imi , they've added The Who, 33 00:14:41,171 --> 00:14:43,172 "they've added Airplane." 34 00:14:43,339 --> 00:14:46,341 So, in the end , we did it. Thank God we did. 35 00:14:46,883 --> 00:14:50,176 ANG We wanted to make sure that nobody was excluded from this event. 36 00:14:50,510 --> 00:14:54,387 It was planned to be an Aquarian exposition 37 00:14:54,512 --> 00:14:56,972 and all that that sort of entails 38 00:14:57,014 --> 00:14:59,724 which includes sort of a new wave dealing with people, 39 00:14:59,807 --> 00:15:01,933 sort of a new openness. 40 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,851 What is it the musicians have 41 00:15:03,934 --> 00:15:05,269 that they can communicate so well to the kids? 42 00:15:05,352 --> 00:15:06,352 Music! 43 00:15:06,394 --> 00:15:07,687 I mean , they've always had music. 44 00:15:07,770 --> 00:15:10,564 Music has always been a major form of communication , 45 00:15:10,646 --> 00:15:12,315 only now, the lyric and the type of music 46 00:15:12,356 --> 00:15:16,483 is a little bit more involved in society than it was. 47 00:15:16,775 --> 00:15:19,986 Probably someone I wanted more than anyone was Roy Rogers. 48 00:15:20,527 --> 00:15:21,987 I wanted him to close the show with Happy Trails, 49 00:15:22,029 --> 00:15:26,823 'cause we all grew up with Roy Rogers singing Happy Trails to us at night, 50 00:15:27,197 --> 00:15:28,907 or Saturday mornings, as it were. 51 00:15:30,033 --> 00:15:32,200 But his manager didn't think it was a great idea. 52 00:15:33,201 --> 00:15:34,327 It's about what's happening now, 53 00:15:34,368 --> 00:15:37,495 and if you listen to the lyric and you listen to the rhythm 54 00:15:37,537 --> 00:15:39,747 and what's in the music, 55 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:41,956 then you'll know what's going on with the culture. 56 00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:44,708 I gotta split on you. 57 00:15:44,875 --> 00:15:46,043 Great, groovy. Thanks. 1 00:15:58,314 --> 00:16:01,997 There was an incident where I was looking over an invoice 2 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:04,370 that I had received from Technicolor, 3 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:07,644 who was processing all of the opticals 4 00:16:07,686 --> 00:16:10,099 that were coming out of the optical houses. 5 00:16:10,182 --> 00:16:11,654 And I noticed this invoice, 6 00:16:11,737 --> 00:16:16,564 and it said that they were making two prints of the negative. 7 00:16:17,382 --> 00:16:20,411 I called Technicolor with a really dumb, naive question. 8 00:16:20,452 --> 00:16:22,375 I said , "Where does the second print go?" 9 00:16:22,417 --> 00:16:26,180 "We always send the second print to New York to Warner Bros. 10 00:16:26,262 --> 00:16:29,617 "To have them get a look at what we're producing ." 11 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,524 You know, what we're printing for their client. 12 00:16:32,605 --> 00:16:35,715 I said , "Great. Okay, great." 13 00:16:35,796 --> 00:16:38,948 Next call , "Bob, we got a problem ." 14 00:16:39,684 --> 00:16:42,957 We got on the phone with our attorney 15 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,927 and we physically, at that point, 16 00:16:47,008 --> 00:16:52,082 shut down our editing for all intents and purposes. 17 00:16:52,165 --> 00:16:56,706 We brought all of the negative into our offices 18 00:16:56,748 --> 00:17:01,495 and hired a 2-hour security guard with a gun. 19 00:17:01,577 --> 00:17:05,258 And Bob flew to New York to negotiate with these people. 20 00:17:05,341 --> 00:17:09,843 Once we got it resolved that Technicolor had absolutely no right, 21 00:17:09,924 --> 00:17:12,175 since we were the client of record , 22 00:17:12,952 --> 00:17:16,225 to make another copy or to get it anywhere else, 23 00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:18,026 everything smoothed out again , 24 00:17:18,067 --> 00:17:21,667 and the negative went back to Ed Richards. 25 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:23,305 Ed Richards, the negative manager. 26 00:17:23,386 --> 00:17:26,701 And we continued to put new material into the optical houses 27 00:17:26,742 --> 00:17:27,806 to get it processed. 28 00:17:28,174 --> 00:17:31,202 We were that rigid. 29 00:17:31,284 --> 00:17:36,848 We were that determined to maintain the integrity of this film. 1 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:55,157 Can those of you in the back hear well? 2 00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:59,078 Raise your hand, please. It's all right? Thank you. 3 00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:01,037 There were some pretty interesting announcements. 4 00:18:01,204 --> 00:18:06,209 There were lots of "Meet your sister," and "Meet your brother," or 5 00:18:06,292 --> 00:18:07,542 "Get to the hospital , you're having a baby." 6 00:18:07,584 --> 00:18:08,669 Those kinds of things. 7 00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:11,129 CHIP MONCK ON PA Helen Savage, please call your father 8 00:18:11,213 --> 00:18:13,590 at the Motel Glory in Wood-Ridge. 9 00:18:13,674 --> 00:18:17,051 By the time, I was appointed MC 10 00:18:17,134 --> 00:18:20,805 at 7: 00 in the morning by the tap on the shoulder by Mr. Lang , 11 00:18:22,597 --> 00:18:26,518 I had a feeling that it was going to be mammoth. 12 00:18:26,893 --> 00:18:32,064 The Daily News, in rather large headlines, still costing 10 cents, 13 00:18:32,398 --> 00:18:35,234 "Traffic Uptight At Hippiefest." 14 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,736 Well , he was there. He was articulate. 15 00:18:39,404 --> 00:18:41,906 And I had forgotten to book anybody, so... 16 00:18:42,407 --> 00:18:46,952 You could actually hear my knees rattling together. 17 00:18:47,035 --> 00:18:48,745 When I first started on my announcements, 18 00:18:48,829 --> 00:18:51,914 it was a very uncomfortable feeling. 19 00:18:52,081 --> 00:18:55,710 It got smoother and got easier because I was frankly in charge, 20 00:18:56,168 --> 00:18:58,379 and why should I be frightened? 21 00:18:58,421 --> 00:19:01,172 Because I could do anything I needed to. 22 00:19:01,297 --> 00:19:04,426 Wheat Germ, Holly has your bag with your medicine. 23 00:19:04,509 --> 00:19:07,553 Please meet at the information booth as soon as you can, please. 24 00:19:07,761 --> 00:19:12,599 I think one of the doctors came up and said , 25 00:19:12,683 --> 00:19:15,935 "If you can , let's see if we can get rid of this brown acid ." 26 00:19:16,602 --> 00:19:20,523 And for his hand to be on my back and just push me downstage, 27 00:19:20,606 --> 00:19:22,607 which meant it was time to do it now. 28 00:19:23,525 --> 00:19:24,693 The warning that I've received, 29 00:19:24,776 --> 00:19:27,696 you may take it with however many grains of salt you wish, 30 00:19:28,446 --> 00:19:33,868 that the brown acid that is circulating around us is not specifically too good. 31 00:19:34,493 --> 00:19:36,786 That was a very difficult announcement to make, 32 00:19:36,828 --> 00:19:38,621 because if you really stomped on it, 33 00:19:38,872 --> 00:19:41,458 anybody who had taken it could , in fact, 34 00:19:41,499 --> 00:19:44,835 really end up having a very unpleasant trip. 35 00:19:45,294 --> 00:19:46,628 Which acid did I take? 37 00:19:48,088 --> 00:19:50,465 The green or the brown ? 38 00:19:51,883 --> 00:19:54,594 And that took you to another place 'cause you were tripping. 39 00:19:54,635 --> 00:19:58,138 So you immediately spiral downward 40 00:19:59,431 --> 00:20:01,391 just from the announcements. 41 00:20:01,516 --> 00:20:04,728 I really didn't know how to do it. 42 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:08,355 That's why there were so many little colloquialisms and stuff stuffed in there, 43 00:20:09,148 --> 00:20:11,108 "grain of salt," "be my guest," 44 00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:13,860 because I really wanted to try and soften it. 45 00:20:14,527 --> 00:20:16,529 MONCK It's suggested that you do stay away from that. 46 00:20:16,654 --> 00:20:18,823 Of course, it's your own trip, so be my guest, 47 00:20:18,907 --> 00:20:22,075 but please be advised that there is a warning on that one, okay? 48 00:20:22,826 --> 00:20:26,663 I think you save the harsh ones for the time you need it. 49 00:20:27,246 --> 00:20:31,167 So it's probably a good idea to be, certainly not soft and cuddly, 50 00:20:31,209 --> 00:20:34,337 but at least courteous, you know. 51 00:20:34,836 --> 00:20:37,506 Because some people, I suppose, could be easily offended 52 00:20:37,547 --> 00:20:40,717 by a type of language or an approach. 53 00:20:41,884 --> 00:20:44,178 So you have to be sort of careful in that. 54 00:20:44,345 --> 00:20:49,224 I started to actually tune 55 00:20:49,474 --> 00:20:54,771 and refine a skill that I had no idea that I had. 56 00:20:55,396 --> 00:20:57,356 MONCK Dr. Jack UGHING*, please, 57 00:20:57,439 --> 00:21:01,527 with full suturing equipment, your presence is requested. 58 00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:04,904 You've got a delivery to make. 59 00:21:05,196 --> 00:21:08,199 Both Chip and John Morris also did some announcing , 60 00:21:08,908 --> 00:21:11,660 and they both did an amazing job. I mean , it was just... 61 00:21:11,701 --> 00:21:16,081 It was totally, you know, surprising to me. 62 00:21:16,164 --> 00:21:19,625 I had no idea they would be that good , either one of them. 63 00:21:19,708 --> 00:21:20,876 But it's just one of those things, 64 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,504 like a lot of things about Woodstock, that worked out perfectly. 1 00:21:38,583 --> 00:21:42,004 Warner Bros. had said they're going to open this film 2 00:21:42,087 --> 00:21:46,967 in eight cities at the end of March , March 2 and 25, 3 00:21:47,050 --> 00:21:49,303 and they needed to be able to see it. 4 00:21:49,344 --> 00:21:55,935 We were still mixing the film on March 10, 11 and 12, mind you. 5 00:21:56,603 --> 00:21:58,480 And they said , "We've got to see it, we've got to see it. 6 00:21:58,521 --> 00:22:00,816 "The exhibitors have got to see it. We've got to know how long it is." 7 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:04,070 We had known all along that the standard length for a movie 8 00:22:04,153 --> 00:22:07,823 is an hour and 50 minutes, 1 -5-0. 9 00:22:07,908 --> 00:22:11,244 And here we were, virtually double that length. 10 00:22:11,328 --> 00:22:15,707 What he wanted was almost a four-and-a-half, five hour film. 11 00:22:16,666 --> 00:22:22,340 And , in fact, his first cut was about seven hours or six hours. 12 00:22:22,673 --> 00:22:25,051 They said , "We want a screening. 13 00:22:25,134 --> 00:22:29,723 "Five of us, suits, will sit in the backroom of the projection booth 14 00:22:29,807 --> 00:22:33,852 "over here on the Warner Bros. lot, and we'll take a look at your film ." 15 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,481 And we said, "We'll call you back." 16 00:22:36,523 --> 00:22:38,983 We all looked at each other and said , 17 00:22:39,025 --> 00:22:41,694 "Five suits looking at this film? They'll never get it." 18 00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:47,243 The editors at that time were concerned 19 00:22:47,326 --> 00:22:49,703 about "the studio." 20 00:22:49,745 --> 00:22:54,709 Because the studio was doing , you know, big films, 21 00:22:54,751 --> 00:22:56,545 we'd been in the business for years, 22 00:22:56,628 --> 00:22:59,339 but they didn't have the "vision" 23 00:22:59,381 --> 00:23:03,886 that the young hippies of those days had. 24 00:23:04,345 --> 00:23:05,847 And we argued back and forth, 25 00:23:05,888 --> 00:23:10,518 and finally we said that we had invited several hundred students 26 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,690 from UC* and USC, other film houses, 27 00:23:14,731 --> 00:23:18,235 to come watch the film with the Warner Bros. suits. 28 00:23:18,277 --> 00:23:19,945 And we then invited them 29 00:23:20,028 --> 00:23:25,118 and showed them the whole film at four hours in length. 30 00:23:25,201 --> 00:23:29,122 They had to hop over people who were lying on the floor, 31 00:23:29,205 --> 00:23:31,750 opening weeds in the back, 32 00:23:31,834 --> 00:23:37,548 and from the first moment, it was rip-roaring, rocking. 33 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:39,967 The projectionists were absolutely perfect, 34 00:23:40,050 --> 00:23:44,181 the suits were totally, totally overwhelmed. 35 00:23:44,264 --> 00:23:47,350 After the screening, we were more confident than ever 36 00:23:47,434 --> 00:23:49,352 that we had a hit on our hands. 37 00:23:49,436 --> 00:23:55,109 We had a meeting the next day in which Warner Bros. said , "It's too long ." 38 00:23:56,527 --> 00:24:02,701 I just, you know, couldn't believe it. You know, Dale had to hold me down. 39 00:24:02,784 --> 00:24:05,537 So the next morning we had a meeting. 40 00:24:05,621 --> 00:24:07,331 And there were certain things that they said 41 00:24:07,414 --> 00:24:11,920 that we had kind of thought among ourselves were going to be okay, 42 00:24:11,961 --> 00:24:14,047 that we would have to drop some stuff, 43 00:24:14,130 --> 00:24:16,591 'cause we'd had our own meeting after the screening , 44 00:24:16,633 --> 00:24:19,553 and we'd felt even in putting them into the film 45 00:24:19,637 --> 00:24:22,473 that maybe they weren't really working properly. 46 00:24:22,556 --> 00:24:26,686 But where it came to be the most critical was at the end. 47 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,191 Warner's wanted the J imi Hendrix sequence 48 00:24:31,274 --> 00:24:32,651 cut down to three minutes 49 00:24:32,692 --> 00:24:36,489 because they thought it was so sour, so dark. 50 00:24:36,572 --> 00:24:39,742 They wanted people going out of the movie cheering , everything else. 51 00:24:39,825 --> 00:24:42,203 And they thought that this whole rendering 52 00:24:42,286 --> 00:24:47,000 of J imi's Star-Spangled Banner, plus the Purple Haze that we had in there, 53 00:24:47,042 --> 00:24:49,670 and all that garbage picking up and the whatever. 54 00:24:49,711 --> 00:24:51,713 How could you end the movie with that? 55 00:24:51,797 --> 00:24:54,425 WADEIGH I personally edited that last section 56 00:24:54,509 --> 00:24:58,930 and felt very strongly that we should end on a disturbing note. 57 00:24:59,013 --> 00:25:01,307 You know, that this looks like post-holocaust, 58 00:25:01,349 --> 00:25:04,186 and you notice I put in the people with the crutches 59 00:25:04,270 --> 00:25:08,399 and the casts on their arms and all the detritus. 60 00:25:08,482 --> 00:25:10,901 It was meant to look like, 61 00:25:10,985 --> 00:25:15,365 wow, you know, will all this good time end very, very badly? 62 00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:18,827 And that's exactly what I wanted people to think about. 63 00:25:18,868 --> 00:25:20,829 With this brilliant guitar playing , 64 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:25,876 it was really the perfect ending , aesthetically, as a filmmaker, for the film. 65 00:25:25,918 --> 00:25:29,213 So I was ready to, you know, 66 00:25:29,255 --> 00:25:32,968 absolutely go to the mat over that issue. 67 00:25:33,051 --> 00:25:37,889 Of course, Michael and I butted heads in a lot of ways, 68 00:25:39,558 --> 00:25:43,521 but it was always creative. He was really the creative maven. 69 00:25:44,063 --> 00:25:46,232 And I was the guy from the studio. 70 00:25:46,607 --> 00:25:50,904 There were really vicious remarks that were thrown back and forth. 71 00:25:51,739 --> 00:25:55,075 We spent the rest of the day 72 00:25:55,159 --> 00:26:00,749 ensuring that we had possession of the elements that would prevent them 73 00:26:00,832 --> 00:26:03,084 from making a separate cut, 74 00:26:03,168 --> 00:26:06,671 coming up with a two-hour version that the exhibitors wanted, 75 00:26:06,755 --> 00:26:09,383 because they were saying the exhibitors wanna turn this film around. 76 00:26:09,425 --> 00:26:10,634 They wanna sell more popcorn. 77 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,470 WADEIGH If they had not agreed with us, 78 00:26:12,553 --> 00:26:16,265 we were prepared to at least threaten going berserk 79 00:26:16,349 --> 00:26:20,812 and destroying everything if they didn't put out our version. 80 00:26:21,104 --> 00:26:23,148 BE But what we finally arrived at, 81 00:26:23,231 --> 00:26:26,026 we would cut down the J imi Hendrix piece, 82 00:26:26,109 --> 00:26:30,239 which I think was running at about 15 or 16 minutes, 83 00:26:30,281 --> 00:26:34,619 down to a version that we felt comfortable with , 84 00:26:34,702 --> 00:26:37,915 which we had to kind of determine would be nine or 10 minutes. 85 00:26:37,956 --> 00:26:39,124 It was a compromise, 86 00:26:39,166 --> 00:26:43,754 but only as to a certain amount of length with it, 87 00:26:43,796 --> 00:26:49,803 which , by the way, now's been put all back into the director's cut. 88 00:26:49,886 --> 00:26:53,723 But by and large, we ended up, I would say, 89 00:26:53,807 --> 00:26:56,143 with basically what we wanted. 90 00:26:56,394 --> 00:26:58,479 It took a while to get there. 91 00:26:58,562 --> 00:27:02,900 But just two or three weeks beforehand , we were still screaming and yelling. 92 00:27:02,983 --> 00:27:06,405 But Michael was brilliant. 93 00:27:06,488 --> 00:27:11,368 I mean , you very seldom get a director who had the vision that he had , 94 00:27:11,827 --> 00:27:14,831 who's able to shoot the film the way he told the people to shoot it. 95 00:27:14,914 --> 00:27:17,333 And he was very instrumental in all that. 96 00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:20,711 And as a filmmaker, I thought, "Wow. There's nothing I wanna change." 97 00:27:20,795 --> 00:27:24,383 I didn't have any second thought, which is really, really nice. 1 00:27:42,333 --> 00:27:45,211 The summer of 1969, 2 00:27:45,295 --> 00:27:47,672 New York City was abuzz 3 00:27:47,797 --> 00:27:51,801 with this whole idea that there was going to be, somewhere, 4 00:27:51,926 --> 00:27:54,303 at a place yet to be determined, 5 00:27:54,344 --> 00:27:58,223 a huge colossal music festival 6 00:27:58,390 --> 00:28:01,226 called Woodstock Music and Art Fair. 7 00:28:01,310 --> 00:28:07,190 In July of 1969, Michael Wadleigh knew very little about it, 8 00:28:07,273 --> 00:28:12,069 because he was shooting a film with Paul Petzoldt 9 00:28:12,153 --> 00:28:14,989 called 30 Days to Survival, 10 00:28:15,615 --> 00:28:19,577 in which Michael survived and lost 20 pounds. 11 00:28:20,744 --> 00:28:22,788 -True? -Yeah , it was my head ... 12 00:28:22,829 --> 00:28:24,414 -Right. -.. .that was lost. 13 00:28:24,498 --> 00:28:26,208 Took a long time to re-find it. 14 00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:30,045 BE As he came back at the end of July, 15 00:28:30,128 --> 00:28:34,757 there was this whole pulsating in New York among the film community 16 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,675 about this festival. 17 00:28:36,717 --> 00:28:40,763 And there was talk that the festival producers 18 00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:46,143 were looking for filmmakers to be able to shoot this festival. 19 00:28:46,185 --> 00:28:49,854 We heard this, and Bob began to sniff around 20 00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:53,691 as to where were the rights to the festival. 21 00:28:53,733 --> 00:28:58,863 At that time, I had just come in with the new Warner Bros. people. 22 00:28:59,030 --> 00:29:03,909 It was Steve Ross and Ted Ashley had just taken over, 23 00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:07,538 and they had brought me in to do the youth market. 24 00:29:07,871 --> 00:29:13,377 Ahmet Ertegun at Atlantic Records really had the music rights 25 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:17,547 and the film rights, all in a package for * 100, 000. 26 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:19,173 But there was no deal with anybody, 27 00:29:19,257 --> 00:29:22,635 not with the producers, not with any of the performers, 28 00:29:22,718 --> 00:29:26,722 certainly not with Ahmet Ertegun at Atlantic Records, nobody. 29 00:29:26,764 --> 00:29:28,765 It was really because of the persuasive efforts 30 00:29:28,849 --> 00:29:32,477 of Artie Kornfeld, who I had known in the Village. 31 00:29:32,561 --> 00:29:37,399 And he, with this great enthusiasm , convinced me, and we went from there. 32 00:29:38,316 --> 00:29:41,819 After they turned me down cold , I went back and said , "I'm leaving ." 33 00:29:41,902 --> 00:29:46,949 They said , "Okay, Fred , it's only *350, 000. Don't worry about it." 35 00:29:58,126 --> 00:30:02,839 The Saturday before the Friday when the music began , 36 00:30:03,423 --> 00:30:09,970 Michael and I , and John Binder, and Larry Johnson , and Thelma, 37 00:30:10,053 --> 00:30:13,056 we all went up to the site in about three cars, 38 00:30:13,098 --> 00:30:18,145 and we got to Max Yasgur's farm at about noon. 39 00:30:18,228 --> 00:30:23,232 And there were so much turmoil, but organized chaos going on at the site. 40 00:30:23,274 --> 00:30:28,070 And that was the moment at which we all looked at each other 41 00:30:28,112 --> 00:30:33,284 and said , "We can figure out how to get the people together, 42 00:30:33,326 --> 00:30:35,952 "get the camera people together, get the gear together, 43 00:30:36,036 --> 00:30:38,622 "get the supplies together, 44 00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:42,459 "and get up to that site by Thursday morning 45 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:46,713 "before the music began on Friday. We can do this." 1 00:31:18,458 --> 00:31:21,298 JACK CASADY In the beginning, access roads became so congested 2 00:31:21,382 --> 00:31:24,598 that by the time we actually went in 3 00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:26,560 for what was supposed to be a sound check or whatnot, 4 00:31:26,687 --> 00:31:28,022 once you got in , you didn't leave. 5 00:31:28,107 --> 00:31:31,280 It reminded me of a Cecil B. DeMille production movie, 6 00:31:31,364 --> 00:31:34,747 of all the extras portraying the grandest army you ever saw. 7 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:38,381 We were standing on the curbs watching them come in last night, 8 00:31:38,423 --> 00:31:40,009 all the townspeople. 9 00:31:40,093 --> 00:31:42,933 It was just like an army invading a town. 10 00:31:43,017 --> 00:31:44,437 - Really? -It was hard to believe. 11 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,195 Rows and rows of cars on each side of the dirt access road 12 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,704 didn't leave quite enough room for one vehicle. 13 00:31:51,787 --> 00:31:54,962 I was driving. I took the trim off both sides of the station wagon. 14 00:31:55,004 --> 00:31:57,468 We went through about 200 cars 15 00:31:57,551 --> 00:32:01,393 with the sides of the station wagon scraping the whole way, you know. 16 00:32:01,478 --> 00:32:04,651 And it was.. . Sorry, folks, whoever owned those cars. 17 00:32:04,693 --> 00:32:08,619 Well, we drove up to what was then the Holiday Inn in iberty. 18 00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:10,332 And in the lobby there and in the coffee shop, 19 00:32:10,373 --> 00:32:13,422 everybody was there. And , I mean , I knew most of the people, 20 00:32:13,506 --> 00:32:16,179 Hendrix and Janis Joplin ... 21 00:32:16,262 --> 00:32:18,684 And so I got a bit of an idea what it was like. 22 00:32:18,768 --> 00:32:19,854 Everybody was outside standing, 23 00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:22,026 going , "What the hell is going on?" 24 00:32:22,109 --> 00:32:23,738 And all of a sudden , we see the National Guard , 25 00:32:23,822 --> 00:32:26,620 and , "Is there a war going on? What's going on?" 26 00:32:26,703 --> 00:32:29,000 The only way to get in there is by helicopter. 27 00:32:29,042 --> 00:32:32,050 ANG We booked helicopters before the weekend for emergencies. 28 00:32:32,092 --> 00:32:34,722 As the traffic became more and more dense, 29 00:32:34,764 --> 00:32:37,396 we realized that we were gonna have a problem getting performers in , 30 00:32:37,437 --> 00:32:42,031 and so we booked more helicopters and we just kept doing that hourly, 31 00:32:42,073 --> 00:32:43,619 adding helicopters. 32 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:47,587 We apologize for the noise of the choppity-choppity, 33 00:32:47,712 --> 00:32:50,844 but it seems there are a few cars blocking the road, 34 00:32:50,928 --> 00:32:52,599 so we're flying everybody in. 35 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,812 The helicopter arrived, and we were about to get on it, 36 00:32:54,896 --> 00:32:57,318 and these guys pushed in front of us. 37 00:32:57,401 --> 00:33:01,035 And I was gonna argue the toss with them , as I have a habit of doing. 38 00:33:01,286 --> 00:33:05,630 And it turned out it was Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young and Albert Grossman 39 00:33:05,671 --> 00:33:08,093 going to do a recce of the site. 40 00:33:08,135 --> 00:33:10,432 So we waited for the next helicopter. 41 00:33:10,474 --> 00:33:13,314 So we took a helicopter down to the gig , 42 00:33:13,398 --> 00:33:15,402 maybe three hours before we were due to play. 43 00:33:15,486 --> 00:33:19,496 We could see that it was like some sort of war zone, really. 44 00:33:19,537 --> 00:33:24,131 And it was about a 10-minute flight from there to the Woodstock actual site. 45 00:33:24,173 --> 00:33:28,141 I got to be in a helicopter with Jerry Garcia and Michael Shrieve. 46 00:33:28,183 --> 00:33:31,023 Got up and got high in the sky and looked down 47 00:33:31,107 --> 00:33:32,735 and saw all these people and just couldn't believe it, 48 00:33:32,819 --> 00:33:35,701 with the door open , mind you . And Jerry just thought it was... 49 00:33:35,784 --> 00:33:38,666 "Can you believe it? ook at all those people down there." 50 00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:41,882 It was just overwhelming, way, way overwhelming. 1 00:36:56,958 --> 00:36:59,974 We had really first-rate, you could call them cameramen-directors, 2 00:37:00,016 --> 00:37:04,834 who were very used to going out, taking an assignment 3 00:37:04,875 --> 00:37:06,384 and bringing back the footage. 4 00:37:06,467 --> 00:37:11,997 We'd have about four, call them "documentary teams," 5 00:37:12,038 --> 00:37:17,024 that would be wandering around , either on motorcycles or on foot, 6 00:37:17,065 --> 00:37:24,061 going out into the non-music portions to try to get representative samples 7 00:37:24,102 --> 00:37:30,008 of what sociological and psychological , and indeed , physical activities 8 00:37:30,093 --> 00:37:31,936 were going on all around the stage. 9 00:37:31,978 --> 00:37:34,658 We would send out people and have no idea where they were. 10 00:37:34,701 --> 00:37:37,423 They would send back. We'd hear a request for film , 11 00:37:37,507 --> 00:37:40,229 you know, or a battery, they were out of a battery. 12 00:37:40,314 --> 00:37:45,173 We would try to communicate on a semi-regular basis. 13 00:37:45,214 --> 00:37:47,895 First thing in the morning , we would try to talk, 14 00:37:47,979 --> 00:37:49,235 the documentary team would talk, 15 00:37:49,319 --> 00:37:51,749 I know I would with them and John Binder. 16 00:37:51,791 --> 00:37:54,514 And we would try and find out, "What did you get? 17 00:37:54,597 --> 00:37:56,566 "What have we heard is going to happen? 18 00:37:56,608 --> 00:38:00,294 "It would be really good if you could get up to X by noon. 19 00:38:00,336 --> 00:38:02,933 "Try and get back, send somebody back to us by noon , 20 00:38:02,975 --> 00:38:04,735 "so we know what you've done. 21 00:38:04,818 --> 00:38:08,965 "Because we may have something new for you to do in the afternoon ." 22 00:38:09,677 --> 00:38:11,897 (MAN P*YI NG TU N E ON **OO 23 00:38:12,191 --> 00:38:14,955 Please walk on the grass. 24 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:18,223 Please walk on the grass. 25 00:38:19,311 --> 00:38:20,568 Hold it. 26 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,421 Walk on the sides of the road if you're gonna walk through here. 27 00:38:24,506 --> 00:38:27,437 And one of my jobs was to try and get Chip Monck, 28 00:38:27,522 --> 00:38:31,585 who was lighting the show for the festival , 29 00:38:31,626 --> 00:38:34,810 to please give us some more light at times when there were groups 30 00:38:34,894 --> 00:38:36,988 that Wadleigh would scream to me, 31 00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:40,046 he would be bent over that Éclair camera, 32 00:38:40,130 --> 00:38:43,020 "Get me some light, get me some light! I can't see them ." 33 00:38:43,062 --> 00:38:45,911 I would go over to Chip and say, "Could we have a little more light?" 34 00:38:45,994 --> 00:38:49,345 And he would say, "I'm lighting for those people out there! 35 00:38:49,388 --> 00:38:51,188 "I'm not lighting for your movie!" 37 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:11,505 The lighting is not taking into consideration the camera. 38 00:39:11,588 --> 00:39:14,060 It's lighting for a show, and that became a problem. 39 00:39:14,478 --> 00:39:17,871 That became a serious problem for the cameramen , Michael and everyone. 40 00:39:17,955 --> 00:39:21,934 She was trying to get Chip to give us more light, 41 00:39:22,018 --> 00:39:23,820 and he was trying to make a show. 42 00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:26,249 We kept asking the groups for their playlists. 43 00:39:26,332 --> 00:39:28,175 And generally, they would give them to us, 44 00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:30,270 "Here's the order and songs." So we'd say, "Oh , great! 45 00:39:30,312 --> 00:39:32,657 "Well , these are the songs we wanna do." 46 00:39:32,742 --> 00:39:35,171 And then , we wouldn't start, and here would come a song 47 00:39:35,255 --> 00:39:37,350 that we would want to do that was number five, 48 00:39:37,433 --> 00:39:38,481 and they were opening with it. 49 00:39:38,606 --> 00:39:42,124 And this happened time and again , so we'd all scramble, you know. 50 00:39:42,166 --> 00:39:44,345 So after that, we sort of set a rule that 51 00:39:44,387 --> 00:39:47,822 we would start shooting just the first few seconds, 52 00:39:47,863 --> 00:39:51,591 and then I would either wave them off and say, "No, no, no, we're not gonna go," 53 00:39:51,675 --> 00:39:53,393 or we would continue. 54 00:39:58,461 --> 00:40:00,639 We couldn't afford just to film all the time. 55 00:40:00,723 --> 00:40:03,822 It was simply impossible because the groups never would go off. 56 00:40:03,907 --> 00:40:06,420 Once they came on , they didn't want to leave. 57 00:40:06,462 --> 00:40:09,645 Who had ever played before such a gigantic audience? 58 00:40:09,687 --> 00:40:12,452 So they just kept going and going, and going and going. 59 00:40:16,683 --> 00:40:18,693 Thelma and I and others had talked about 60 00:40:18,777 --> 00:40:21,542 how we would do these elaborate multiple image shoots 61 00:40:21,584 --> 00:40:24,097 and how they'd be coordinated and ... 62 00:40:24,181 --> 00:40:25,898 -Wow! -With headsets. 63 00:40:25,982 --> 00:40:27,531 -With headsets. Right. -With headsets, 64 00:40:27,573 --> 00:40:30,464 and we would say, I had this idea that I'd say, 65 00:40:30,547 --> 00:40:34,401 "I'm on wide, go tight, go tight, you know, now pan. Everybody, pan ." 66 00:40:34,443 --> 00:40:36,118 And the headsets failed. 67 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,349 Or there'd be just horrible feedback that would just blow your ears out. 68 00:40:40,433 --> 00:40:41,648 Or no one could hear you , 69 00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:45,041 because, of course, these groups were incredibly loud. 70 00:40:45,125 --> 00:40:49,230 We had all these fantastic plans about how coordinated we would be, 71 00:40:49,314 --> 00:40:51,576 as if we were like a TV shoot. 72 00:40:51,659 --> 00:40:54,717 Again , it was more analogous to thinking about being 73 00:40:54,801 --> 00:40:58,822 in Beirut or something , you know, with the bombs going off 74 00:40:58,906 --> 00:41:01,042 and , "Pan left, pan.. ." "What?" 75 00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:03,179 Everybody was really in a separate silo, 76 00:41:03,262 --> 00:41:06,739 that phrase that we use today, but that's exactly where everybody was. 77 00:41:06,781 --> 00:41:08,792 But they were at least positioned , 78 00:41:08,875 --> 00:41:11,304 and they all had tremendous instinct. 1 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,297 Remember, guys and gals out there, 2 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:25,718 we've got two different physical objects, 3 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,598 one, a soundtrack, and one, film. 4 00:41:28,682 --> 00:41:31,687 Nothing connects them at all . We're free-floating. 5 00:41:31,728 --> 00:41:34,525 So you've got to get them together, because you don't wanna put 6 00:41:34,566 --> 00:41:37,530 Santana's music with Hendrix's image. 7 00:41:37,571 --> 00:41:39,741 We hired a large group of people 8 00:41:39,783 --> 00:41:44,082 just to sync the dailies for months, by eye. 9 00:41:44,165 --> 00:41:48,089 We weren't able to get slates, we had "beep lights," 10 00:41:48,131 --> 00:41:50,885 but again , things weren't working and ... 12 00:41:52,013 --> 00:41:53,222 It was a nightmare. 13 00:41:53,264 --> 00:41:58,565 Since there were no slates, no technical slates and no visual slates, 14 00:41:58,606 --> 00:42:04,825 we would rent a single-headed Moviola, and a soundtrack player. 15 00:42:04,908 --> 00:42:07,747 It did put us in a manic state at a certain point. 16 00:42:07,830 --> 00:42:09,751 We'd be so excited , we'd be running out, "We got it in sync! " 17 00:42:09,792 --> 00:42:11,295 We'd come back in , it was out again. 18 00:42:11,336 --> 00:42:16,928 This is what was going on 2 hours a day with a team of about 0 people 19 00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:19,975 in a space that was 2,00 square feet, 20 00:42:20,059 --> 00:42:22,730 where each editing table was literally touching 21 00:42:22,813 --> 00:42:24,567 another editing table. 22 00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:27,989 Once we got sync on all of... 23 00:42:28,073 --> 00:42:31,495 We only fed them every other day, because of... 24 00:42:31,578 --> 00:42:33,832 -They didn't get too big . -I mean , it was unreal. 25 00:42:33,874 --> 00:42:34,959 It was totally unreal. 26 00:42:35,001 --> 00:42:37,213 You'd get a phone call at 200 in the morning 27 00:42:37,296 --> 00:42:40,886 saying, "Where's the reel on Creedence Clearwater?" or whatever. 28 00:42:40,969 --> 00:42:43,974 But systematic labeling, the systematic logging, 29 00:42:44,016 --> 00:42:45,977 all of that were absolutely paramount. 30 00:42:46,144 --> 00:42:50,819 No computers, no Excel sheets, it all had to be done by hand. 31 00:42:50,860 --> 00:42:55,368 The festival was August 15, 16, 17. 32 00:42:55,451 --> 00:42:59,250 The syncing was not completed until 33 00:42:59,375 --> 00:43:02,922 towards the end of September, early October. 1 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:13,462 We kind of knew that if you bring Hendrix, 2 00:43:13,546 --> 00:43:17,591 if you bring Janis Joplin, if you bring The Who, 3 00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:21,137 the entire axis of the planet is going to tilt. 4 00:43:21,179 --> 00:43:23,139 Everyone's gonna try and get there. 5 00:43:23,223 --> 00:43:28,020 This idea of Woodstock happening because it was a free show, 6 00:43:28,104 --> 00:43:29,898 I think, is a little inaccurate. 7 00:43:29,982 --> 00:43:33,277 I think most people were coming looking for places to buy tickets. 8 00:43:33,318 --> 00:43:35,989 They couldn't buy tickets 'cause they weren't available an*here. 9 00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:37,949 We never got the ticket booths in place. 10 00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:43,330 This is one thing that I was gonna wait a while before we talked about, 11 00:43:43,372 --> 00:43:46,376 but maybe we'll talk about it now so you can think about it. 12 00:43:46,459 --> 00:43:48,795 It's a free concert from now on. 13 00:43:52,383 --> 00:43:54,427 At one point, somebody told me, "Marty, come here, take a look." 14 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:56,430 So I went up, and I went to the lip of the stage, 15 00:43:56,513 --> 00:44:00,518 and I saw this massive sort of impressionist painting. 16 00:44:00,601 --> 00:44:03,563 I'm a paranoid New Yorker. There were times I got nervous, 17 00:44:03,646 --> 00:44:05,733 "What if something goes wrong?" 18 00:44:05,858 --> 00:44:06,859 (*UG HS 19 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,903 Yeah , but the interesting thing about Woodstock 20 00:44:09,987 --> 00:44:12,032 is that it didn't, you see? 21 00:44:12,073 --> 00:44:13,867 That was the beauty of it, I think. 22 00:44:13,908 --> 00:44:18,497 What we have in mind is breakfast in bed for 400, 000. 23 00:44:21,585 --> 00:44:22,794 JOHNNY WINTER Started to say wall-to-wall people, 24 00:44:22,878 --> 00:44:24,338 but there weren't any walls. 25 00:44:24,421 --> 00:44:26,548 It was just eve*here, as far as you could see, 26 00:44:26,590 --> 00:44:28,384 -just people. -Yeah. 27 00:44:28,426 --> 00:44:30,678 WINTER People, mud and rain. 28 00:44:30,762 --> 00:44:33,057 The overall thing which was so big about it is 29 00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:37,312 you had so many people there of all races and colors, 30 00:44:37,395 --> 00:44:40,148 and there was no fights, and everybody got along , 31 00:44:40,231 --> 00:44:41,900 and it got organized somehow. 32 00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:43,611 There have been many events 33 00:44:43,694 --> 00:44:46,572 that have gathered many people, you know, in the last 0 years, 34 00:44:46,655 --> 00:44:49,951 but realistically, they weren't all in the same headspace. 35 00:44:50,035 --> 00:44:52,913 It was about our generation getting together and showing them 36 00:44:52,997 --> 00:44:55,583 that we didn't have to go to war, we didn't have to have jobs, 37 00:44:55,625 --> 00:44:58,252 we were gonna play music and turn the world around. 1 00:45:06,952 --> 00:45:10,457 No rain! No rain! No rain! 2 00:45:11,167 --> 00:45:13,336 Joe Cooker arrived . Joe went on and played , 3 00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:16,758 and I think we were gonna go on after him , and then , that's when the rain started. 4 00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,471 All right, everybody, just sit down, wrap yourself up. 5 00:45:20,554 --> 00:45:22,724 We're gonna have to ride it out. 6 00:45:24,477 --> 00:45:26,312 Hold on to your neighbor, man. 7 00:45:26,396 --> 00:45:28,523 No rain! No rain! No rain! 8 00:45:28,607 --> 00:45:32,905 -No rain ! No rain ! No rain ! No rain ! -No rain ! No rain ! No rain ! No rain! 9 00:45:32,988 --> 00:45:35,658 The next thing I know it was pouring down with rain , 10 00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,703 I mean , it's turned into a torrential rain. 11 00:45:42,834 --> 00:45:44,797 I remember 'cause I was freezing cold. 12 00:45:44,838 --> 00:45:47,509 I had just a tank top on , you know, with no sleeves. 13 00:45:48,217 --> 00:45:50,554 And it was very, very cold at first. 14 00:45:50,637 --> 00:45:55,477 And they brought in great, big cardboard boxes of scraps of material. 15 00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:57,272 It was like being on a refugee... 16 00:45:57,355 --> 00:46:00,108 I imagine what a refugee camp was like, you know. 17 00:46:00,192 --> 00:46:02,236 CHURCH I To me, it was a mini-tornado. 18 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,615 -It was, yeah . -Yeah , they didn't say it was, 19 00:46:04,698 --> 00:46:07,869 but that was my introduction to tornadoes, of which I've been in two more. 20 00:46:07,994 --> 00:46:10,540 They had a VIP area at the side of the stage 21 00:46:10,581 --> 00:46:11,874 where people could watch, 22 00:46:11,917 --> 00:46:14,587 groupies and press and whatever you like could watch the band, 23 00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:16,422 they had to close that down 24 00:46:16,507 --> 00:46:21,054 to take the strain off the stage, because it was slipping down the hill. 25 00:46:21,221 --> 00:46:22,932 And there is a clip in the movie 26 00:46:23,014 --> 00:46:25,726 of this young kid running down towards the camera, and he says, 27 00:46:25,769 --> 00:46:27,689 "This is the American government! They're doing this! 28 00:46:27,730 --> 00:46:29,274 "They've been spraying the clouds, man." 29 00:46:29,357 --> 00:46:30,359 I've got something to say. 30 00:46:30,401 --> 00:46:32,778 I want to know how come the fascist pigs have been seeding the clouds? 31 00:46:32,863 --> 00:46:34,281 Right, for the last hour and a half. 32 00:46:34,363 --> 00:46:35,950 'Cause I've seen the airplanes going over twice 33 00:46:36,032 --> 00:46:39,204 with all the smoke coming out of them , seeding the clouds, 34 00:46:39,246 --> 00:46:42,375 and I want to know, you know, why that stuff is going down , man , 35 00:46:42,417 --> 00:46:46,046 and why doesn't the media report that stuff to the people, man? 36 00:46:46,463 --> 00:46:48,508 And with current events, you really have to wonder 37 00:46:48,593 --> 00:46:50,761 if that, maybe, was the case. 38 00:46:50,803 --> 00:46:54,266 'Cause I know the FBI and the CIA were very, very nervous... 39 00:46:54,308 --> 00:46:56,937 -It's getting to conspiracy theories. -.. .of all that many people, you know. 40 00:46:57,020 --> 00:46:59,608 Technically, it was a horror, you know, 41 00:46:59,732 --> 00:47:03,946 because it stopped many things from working. 42 00:47:04,197 --> 00:47:06,950 The wiring was flooded. 43 00:47:06,992 --> 00:47:09,161 I remember, when we went on stage, 44 00:47:09,245 --> 00:47:12,667 in between the wires, it was like water. 45 00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:15,670 You can squeeze those two conductors together 46 00:47:15,755 --> 00:47:17,798 and get a monstrous zap. 47 00:47:17,882 --> 00:47:19,676 It goes through your mind , "Well , 48 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,847 "this could be our best and last show here." 49 00:47:30,149 --> 00:47:32,152 There were just people every place, I mean , it just... 50 00:47:32,903 --> 00:47:35,657 Started to say wall-to-wall people, but there weren't any walls. 51 00:47:35,697 --> 00:47:37,910 It was just everywhere, as far as you could see, 52 00:47:37,992 --> 00:47:39,829 -just people. Yeah. 53 00:47:39,870 --> 00:47:41,666 People, mud and rain. 54 00:47:42,958 --> 00:47:44,293 GRACE SLICK Some of them were even playing in it. 55 00:47:44,336 --> 00:47:45,878 And I thought, "Well, thank God you're young." 56 00:47:46,088 --> 00:47:49,509 Take off your clothes and play in the mud. 57 00:47:49,592 --> 00:47:51,846 HUGH HEFNER: I was glad I wasn't there, 58 00:47:51,929 --> 00:47:54,849 but I don't think I would've enjoyed all the mud. 59 00:47:55,935 --> 00:47:58,772 I'm very glad it happened , in hindsight, 60 00:47:58,855 --> 00:48:01,985 because it was a wonderful settling event, 61 00:48:02,025 --> 00:48:05,282 because you could look around and everybody looked the same. 62 00:48:05,364 --> 00:48:07,199 Drowned rats. 63 00:48:07,284 --> 00:48:09,119 That's really what was amazing about the whole thing , 64 00:48:09,203 --> 00:48:11,539 is that the conditions weren't good at all , 65 00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:13,834 but nobody seemed to care, you know. 1 00:48:25,417 --> 00:48:28,408 KRAMER When I think back on Woodstock, I just think, 2 00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:29,904 "I'm gonna shut myself up in 3 00:48:30,028 --> 00:48:34,099 "this little eight by eight portion of this tractor trailer, 4 00:48:34,183 --> 00:48:37,381 "and whatever happens, just try to get this stuff 5 00:48:37,423 --> 00:48:39,168 "on tape as best as I can ." 6 00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:40,789 He couldn't see anything. 7 00:48:40,872 --> 00:48:43,779 All he could do was to listen and guess, 8 00:48:43,863 --> 00:48:46,688 "I hear something through that mike, it must be here." 9 00:48:46,771 --> 00:48:48,266 KRAMER As far as the gear was concerned, 10 00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:51,133 literally, it was a 12-channel console 11 00:48:51,175 --> 00:48:53,294 with a couple of Shure mixers stacked on top of it, 12 00:48:53,334 --> 00:48:57,198 and one of the eight-track machines was in an orange crate. 13 00:48:57,282 --> 00:49:01,935 It was hung together with wire and string and chewing gum. 14 00:49:01,976 --> 00:49:06,338 And we were in the back corner of a tractor trailer, 15 00:49:06,422 --> 00:49:10,908 literally, maybe eight foot by eight foot, if that. 16 00:49:12,072 --> 00:49:14,315 And that's where I was stuck for the whole three days. 17 00:49:14,481 --> 00:49:19,134 He did not have 2 tracks that we have today, or 32 or 68. 18 00:49:19,217 --> 00:49:20,546 He had eight tracks, 19 00:49:20,588 --> 00:49:25,075 one of which was devoted , thankfully, to our sync signal. 20 00:49:25,158 --> 00:49:28,315 So, essentially, I'm dealing with seven channels of audio, 21 00:49:28,398 --> 00:49:30,392 which includes the audience 22 00:49:30,434 --> 00:49:33,176 and horns and vocals 23 00:49:33,217 --> 00:49:36,956 and drums and bass and guitars and everything else, so... 25 00:49:52,827 --> 00:49:56,815 After the first number, the first act, 26 00:49:56,898 --> 00:49:59,640 all communication was just in the toilet, 27 00:49:59,722 --> 00:50:02,797 because who knew what was going on after that? 28 00:50:02,838 --> 00:50:09,111 So we had to utilize the first song of each set 29 00:50:09,153 --> 00:50:15,675 as the sort of trial by fire and trial by error. 30 00:50:15,759 --> 00:50:18,584 It was complete chaos, but we did it. 31 00:50:18,667 --> 00:50:20,454 I mean , you know, that was the challenge. 1 00:50:29,229 --> 00:50:32,556 Ladies and gentlemen, the Sha Na Na! Harold, turn up the mike. 3 00:50:41,667 --> 00:50:43,955 If we hadn't been at Woodstock, 4 00:50:45,785 --> 00:50:48,280 I don't think Sha Na Na would've had any of the success it's had. 5 00:50:48,364 --> 00:50:52,107 They were, I think, completely shocked when I booked them. 6 00:50:52,274 --> 00:50:55,352 I think that they didn't really take it seriously. 7 00:50:55,393 --> 00:50:58,513 I saw them at The Scene, Steve Paul's club, 8 00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:02,133 and I thought, "You know, what a great light moment this would be ! " 9 00:51:02,174 --> 00:51:06,500 And you know, kind of a nod to the rock and roll roots that we all had , 10 00:51:06,542 --> 00:51:07,915 so I thought it would be fun for everybody. 11 00:51:07,998 --> 00:51:10,493 I mean , you can't get too heavy all the time, so... 12 00:51:10,577 --> 00:51:14,030 Well , I have to say that the whole Sha Na Na career, 13 00:51:14,737 --> 00:51:16,567 celebrating our 40th, 14 00:51:17,441 --> 00:51:20,020 may not have ever happened. 15 00:51:20,103 --> 00:51:24,388 So we owe a ton to it, I think, more than any other act that was there. 16 00:51:30,295 --> 00:51:34,038 I've seen the world , and I've become very comfortable 17 00:51:34,122 --> 00:51:36,410 and thankful that I had this career, 18 00:51:36,451 --> 00:51:39,363 and it wouldn't have happened without Woodstock. 19 00:51:39,446 --> 00:51:41,651 And there was only one Woodstock. 21 00:51:48,889 --> 00:51:50,594 And it did change my life in that sense that 22 00:51:50,678 --> 00:51:53,174 the music also fixed me a certain way, 23 00:51:53,257 --> 00:51:54,588 seeing it performed that way, 24 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:59,580 being right there with that music, hearing the sound go through you. 25 00:51:59,621 --> 00:52:03,157 I'd always wanted to play music. I love music. 26 00:52:03,241 --> 00:52:06,901 And so it was a major factor 27 00:52:06,984 --> 00:52:10,104 in all my other work and my films and everything else. 28 00:52:10,188 --> 00:52:14,181 That was an extraordinary cathartic situation with that music. 29 00:52:15,262 --> 00:52:20,087 A very, very powerful , powerful feeling. 30 00:52:24,788 --> 00:52:28,325 Steve Ross and TedAshley had just taken over Warner Bros. 31 00:52:28,365 --> 00:52:32,318 And they had decided almost in a funny kind of way 32 00:52:32,567 --> 00:52:36,436 that with all the movies that they saw that they had when they took over, 33 00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:38,891 that maybe they were gonna sell the studio. 34 00:52:38,973 --> 00:52:42,010 And Woodstock basically saved the studio, 35 00:52:42,051 --> 00:52:44,922 and became the fact that they made movies 36 00:52:45,005 --> 00:52:48,083 'cause of what happened to the Woodstock film. 37 00:52:48,167 --> 00:52:51,536 Well , several writers wrote that Woodstock saved the studio. 38 00:52:51,619 --> 00:52:55,447 At the time, several , Variety and others, 39 00:52:55,488 --> 00:52:59,606 said that this strange hippie piece and that... 40 00:52:59,648 --> 00:53:01,478 And by the way, I will say, 41 00:53:01,562 --> 00:53:04,306 one good thing was that once it became a hit, 42 00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:05,971 I had a wonderful experience 43 00:53:06,012 --> 00:53:08,466 traveling around the world with the film , 44 00:53:08,508 --> 00:53:12,169 able to speak about its politics and cultural significance. 45 00:53:12,252 --> 00:53:17,285 I didn't think any of the musicians there expected it to be anything. 46 00:53:17,327 --> 00:53:18,825 And they just went along to play. 47 00:53:18,908 --> 00:53:21,445 And stoned as some of them were on one thing or another, 48 00:53:21,529 --> 00:53:23,526 there was no ulterior motive. 49 00:53:23,608 --> 00:53:27,726 And the audience turned up, not expecting anything. 50 00:53:27,768 --> 00:53:30,056 So the whole thing was a spontaneous thing , 51 00:53:30,098 --> 00:53:31,346 and the energy was there, 52 00:53:31,429 --> 00:53:33,176 and when you organize something , 53 00:53:33,259 --> 00:53:37,252 that thing can never be captured , never ever. 54 00:53:37,294 --> 00:53:38,792 That's the difference. 55 00:53:38,875 --> 00:53:41,121 And I think that's why people find it fascinating. 1 00:53:57,667 --> 00:53:59,082 LANG: It's been very gratifying, you know. 2 00:53:59,166 --> 00:54:01,956 I'm delighted to have been affiliated with it. 3 00:54:03,955 --> 00:54:08,994 It obviously took the energies of lots of people, 4 00:54:09,951 --> 00:54:14,116 and I'm certainly eternally grateful to all of them. 5 00:54:15,115 --> 00:54:16,157 It was a very special time, 6 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,530 and I was thrilled to be a part of making it happen 7 00:54:18,614 --> 00:54:20,487 and thrilled to be a part of it happening. 8 00:54:20,862 --> 00:54:22,777 So, it's always been gratifying. 9 00:54:22,861 --> 00:54:25,859 I mean , I've spoken to lots of people over the years, 10 00:54:25,942 --> 00:54:28,733 and I can't tell you how many times people tell me 11 00:54:28,774 --> 00:54:30,607 that it changed their lives in a very positive way. 12 00:54:30,690 --> 00:54:32,272 So it's very gratifying. 13 00:54:32,314 --> 00:54:34,188 It's a great, great festival. 14 00:54:35,604 --> 00:54:37,269 One of the best there's ever been. 15 00:54:37,603 --> 00:54:41,267 I think it is the most important rock and roll show in history. 16 00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:48,430 It is the symbolism of Woodstock that is so much alive today 17 00:54:48,929 --> 00:54:50,970 that can be carried forward 18 00:54:51,053 --> 00:54:56,341 and it can be replicated , duplicated , implemented 19 00:54:56,925 --> 00:55:01,672 by every individual, whether they went, whether they saw it, 20 00:55:01,755 --> 00:55:05,087 whether they raise their hand saying they were there and they weren't. 21 00:55:05,129 --> 00:55:10,542 Those people who are encased in the spirit, infused with the spirit 22 00:55:10,584 --> 00:55:13,291 and the essence of what Woodstock represented. 23 00:55:13,457 --> 00:55:16,247 I mean , it did have an impact. It had an impact. 24 00:55:16,330 --> 00:55:19,412 And I think maybe it was because that many people gathered together. 25 00:55:19,453 --> 00:55:24,285 They were all kind of the hippie culture, if you like. 26 00:55:25,075 --> 00:55:26,867 And there wasn't that much trouble. 27 00:55:27,032 --> 00:55:30,031 We think the people of this country should be proud of these kids. 28 00:55:30,072 --> 00:55:33,071 Notwithstanding the way they dress or the way they wear their hair, 29 00:55:33,154 --> 00:55:34,903 that's their own personal business. 30 00:55:34,987 --> 00:55:38,943 But their inner workings, their inner selves, 31 00:55:39,025 --> 00:55:42,232 their self-demeanor cannot be questioned. 32 00:55:42,399 --> 00:55:44,273 I thought, "My God , we were just.. ." 33 00:55:44,897 --> 00:55:49,062 Everyone was so sweet and nice, and what was so threatening about that? 34 00:55:49,145 --> 00:55:52,726 But you know, people were smoking pot on camera, 35 00:55:52,810 --> 00:55:56,224 and there were people who were undressed in the middle of a meadow 36 00:55:56,349 --> 00:56:00,180 and bathing nude in a lake. But, come on, I mean, really. 37 00:56:00,264 --> 00:56:02,179 Everyone was just having a wonderful time. 38 00:56:02,429 --> 00:56:03,512 Woodstock was unique. 39 00:56:03,554 --> 00:56:08,135 It was a unique place, time, 40 00:56:10,008 --> 00:56:13,714 coming together of all of these various artists. 41 00:56:14,964 --> 00:56:18,337 The fact that economically, socially, 42 00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:23,376 it was a very, very traumatic time. 43 00:56:23,959 --> 00:56:28,289 And look at all these people. Half a million kids, 44 00:56:28,373 --> 00:56:32,204 adults, children coming together in one place at one time, 45 00:56:32,287 --> 00:56:36,077 becoming a huge city virtually overnight. Peaceful. 46 00:56:36,576 --> 00:56:39,242 The Summer of Love and Woodstock were the beginning 47 00:56:39,325 --> 00:56:45,862 of a decade of celebration that was almost Eden-like. 48 00:56:49,735 --> 00:56:52,858 And then we were kicked out of the garden. 49 00:56:54,525 --> 00:56:55,690 Over the years, 50 00:56:58,647 --> 00:57:01,521 there's a real sour grapes attitude 51 00:57:01,604 --> 00:57:06,559 towards Woodstock, towards the time, towards the sensibility. 52 00:57:07,017 --> 00:57:12,680 It's easy to make fun of because it was kind of the last time when 53 00:57:13,722 --> 00:57:18,677 a group so large, a demographic so large could be so sincere 54 00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:22,675 and uncynical about what they were doing. 55 00:57:22,883 --> 00:57:26,090 The legacy of Woodstock is the legacy of possibilities. 56 00:57:26,173 --> 00:57:31,504 What Woodstock proved is that human beings 57 00:57:31,587 --> 00:57:32,960 are capable of so much more 58 00:57:33,002 --> 00:57:35,793 than they ever, ever reach into themselves and do. 59 00:57:36,001 --> 00:57:40,664 I just think in any of these anniversaries, 60 00:57:42,331 --> 00:57:45,412 and I think as you get further away, now at 40, 61 00:57:45,496 --> 00:57:49,160 and you look back at it, it just shows the importance of it. 62 00:57:50,409 --> 00:57:51,408 It's still important. 63 00:57:51,991 --> 00:57:56,864 I think that they will get a glimpse of a time that was very hopeful, 64 00:57:56,989 --> 00:57:59,529 in a world that was very much like the one we're living in today, 65 00:57:59,695 --> 00:58:01,320 you know, unpopular war, 66 00:58:01,361 --> 00:58:04,568 and the Earth being wounded as it is today. 67 00:58:04,651 --> 00:58:09,398 All the things that the '60s sort of brought to the fore 68 00:58:11,105 --> 00:58:14,188 seem to be coming back to haunt us now, 69 00:58:14,270 --> 00:58:15,270 'cause we didn't listen then. 70 00:58:15,312 --> 00:58:18,185 Yes, it did have a huge impact on the world , I think. 71 00:58:19,143 --> 00:58:24,806 And I think the movie gives an example, a taste of what it was like in that era. 72 00:58:25,306 --> 00:58:26,638 I think the legacy of Woodstock 73 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,554 was that it was a peaceful event. 74 00:58:28,637 --> 00:58:31,510 That we showed , even though we were revolutionary and stuff, 75 00:58:31,594 --> 00:58:35,134 that we showed that you didn't need guns and you didn't need power. 76 00:58:35,176 --> 00:58:38,090 And all we needed was music and to dance and to love one another. 77 00:58:39,214 --> 00:58:40,964 Of course, it's changed nothing. 78 00:58:41,046 --> 00:58:46,169 We've still got world wars going on and poverty and one thing and another. 79 00:58:46,252 --> 00:58:48,543 But we thought we could change the world , yeah. 80 00:58:48,625 --> 00:58:49,709 We hoped we could. 81 00:58:49,792 --> 00:58:52,957 And I think, to a certain extent, we gave a lot of people hope. 2 00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:19,375 We had shot eve*hing with 16mm, 3 00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:23,250 but we knew we wanted to go to the 70mm format, 4 00:59:23,333 --> 00:59:27,250 because we had experienced 70mm sound, 5 00:59:27,333 --> 00:59:30,292 where you had four channels behind the screen 6 00:59:30,375 --> 00:59:31,667 and two in the rear. 7 00:59:31,709 --> 00:59:33,375 So we wanted to take advantage of that. 8 00:59:33,417 --> 00:59:36,375 Well , we worked out with Eastman and other people 9 00:59:36,458 --> 00:59:39,041 how we could go from 16 mm , 10 00:59:39,083 --> 00:59:43,916 blow up to 70 in the most efficient way possible, 11 00:59:44,458 --> 00:59:45,874 which was a miracle in itself 12 00:59:45,958 --> 00:59:49,417 Imagine! 16mm is just tiny. 13 00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:53,000 And here, we were going for a 70mm release. 14 00:59:53,041 --> 00:59:54,542 The KEMs enabled us to do that, 15 00:59:54,625 --> 00:59:58,916 because, how do you mark where you want an image to go? 16 00:59:59,958 --> 01:00:05,542 Et's say you don't even want a full frame of one of your 16mm images, 17 01:00:05,583 --> 01:00:06,874 let's say the left frame. 18 01:00:06,916 --> 01:00:09,500 But you want to select a portion of that. 19 01:00:09,583 --> 01:00:11,874 Well, we simply figured out an XY grid. 20 01:00:11,958 --> 01:00:15,542 For vertical numbers, we had one through 20, or whatever, 21 01:00:15,583 --> 01:00:16,750 one through 80. 22 01:00:16,834 --> 01:00:19,166 And then, horizontal numbers. 23 01:00:19,208 --> 01:00:22,125 And then, you would simply write, it was a description, 24 01:00:22,208 --> 01:00:24,750 from this point, this sized image. 25 01:00:24,834 --> 01:00:27,874 We then wanted to blow it up to the 70mm 26 01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,208 in that quadrant of the 70. 27 01:00:30,292 --> 01:00:32,916 And of course, it was not that precise. 28 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:37,874 So we would give it to the optical people, they'd give it a try 29 01:00:37,958 --> 01:00:40,542 and then we'd do readjustments from there. 30 01:00:40,625 --> 01:00:42,250 The technicians at the time, 31 01:00:42,333 --> 01:00:46,000 these old guys who were now our age, right? 32 01:00:46,041 --> 01:00:47,458 Seventy years old and so on , 33 01:00:47,542 --> 01:00:50,792 who had been around the movie industry all their lives. 34 01:00:50,875 --> 01:00:53,958 They just loved it, and they were so helpful to us. 35 01:00:54,041 --> 01:00:57,375 They loved the challenge of being able to do, 36 01:00:57,458 --> 01:01:01,542 with rock and roll and these modern young kids, 37 01:01:01,583 --> 01:01:04,875 to take this technical challenge of how to get it to the theater 38 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,333 so that it looks really cool. 39 01:01:06,458 --> 01:01:09,750 But from front to back, it was all an experimentation. 40 01:01:09,834 --> 01:01:13,792 No one had done what we had done with those machines 41 01:01:13,875 --> 01:01:15,958 or with the shooting up until that point. 42 01:01:16,041 --> 01:01:17,792 And of course they then devoted 43 01:01:17,875 --> 01:01:21,208 a whole issue of American Cinematographer to us. 44 01:01:21,250 --> 01:01:24,000 Many other technical journals just describing 45 01:01:24,083 --> 01:01:27,417 how, technologically, Woodstock had come about. 46 01:01:27,875 --> 01:01:32,292 But then , of course, what all of us were going for was an aesthetic. 47 01:01:32,375 --> 01:01:35,709 The technology was a means to producing 48 01:01:35,792 --> 01:01:39,208 what we felt was going to be a real involving experience. 1 01:01:48,625 --> 01:01:51,917 It broke all sorts of new ground , and the critics loved it, 2 01:01:52,001 --> 01:01:57,711 and , you know, we were able to really pioneer multiple image 3 01:01:57,752 --> 01:02:02,004 and a new way that rock and roll and documentaries were shot. 4 01:02:02,586 --> 01:02:04,671 We mentioned that, you know, Roger Ebert said 5 01:02:04,754 --> 01:02:06,754 maybe it was the greatest documentary ever made, 6 01:02:06,838 --> 01:02:08,547 and others did as well. 7 01:02:08,588 --> 01:02:09,880 I thought it was overwhelming. 8 01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:14,840 Yeah , I think one of the things that 9 01:02:16,048 --> 01:02:19,133 is most fortunate, is that 10 01:02:20,466 --> 01:02:22,216 that film exists 11 01:02:22,258 --> 01:02:28,301 that captured the real sense of that remarkable weekend. 12 01:02:29,719 --> 01:02:32,760 And it's a phenomenal documentary. 13 01:02:33,136 --> 01:02:36,428 Pauline Kael was head of the Critics Association , 14 01:02:36,469 --> 01:02:38,887 so she came in to see the movie, 15 01:02:38,928 --> 01:02:41,221 and she was no hippie at all. 16 01:02:41,263 --> 01:02:45,930 And we were all like, "Oh , my goodness, you know, she's a super-critic." 17 01:02:46,014 --> 01:02:51,223 Well , she loved the thing , I mean , just thought it was great film making , 18 01:02:51,265 --> 01:02:55,766 and slow but surely, a number of people came and gave us... 19 01:02:55,808 --> 01:02:59,808 Not that we lacked the confidence, but I have to admit, I was really nervous, 20 01:02:59,891 --> 01:03:02,393 because it's like having a hit on your hands, 21 01:03:02,434 --> 01:03:06,935 and are you gonna blow it, you know, are you just gonna make it worse? 22 01:03:07,060 --> 01:03:08,853 What surprised me was how well they captured it. 23 01:03:09,978 --> 01:03:12,687 That that movie really, in three and a half hours, 24 01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:16,312 gave you a good sense of what that weekend was like for us. 25 01:03:17,938 --> 01:03:21,272 And it wasn't just from sort of a typical documentary point of view, 26 01:03:21,355 --> 01:03:23,480 it really brought you in. 27 01:03:23,564 --> 01:03:26,773 I think once it came and we saw it at the movies, 28 01:03:26,857 --> 01:03:30,107 you know, the opening of it, which we saw in New York, 29 01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:31,524 it was very interesting because 30 01:03:31,607 --> 01:03:33,734 it was the first time that they used three cameras. 31 01:03:33,774 --> 01:03:35,942 It's a damn good documentary, you know. 32 01:03:36,026 --> 01:03:37,692 It's a good piece of reporting. 33 01:03:37,859 --> 01:03:43,444 It's not journalistic, you know, to me, it doesn't appear to have a view, 34 01:03:43,527 --> 01:03:44,944 you know, from the director's point of view. 35 01:03:44,986 --> 01:03:47,194 Many people also talked about point of view, 36 01:03:47,278 --> 01:03:51,612 that it was a revolutionary way to convey film making , 37 01:03:51,696 --> 01:03:56,405 you know, from the documentary and from the musical points of view, 38 01:03:56,447 --> 01:04:00,114 that it gave you a real sense of, not only being there, 39 01:04:00,156 --> 01:04:02,906 but also making intellectual connections 40 01:04:02,948 --> 01:04:06,241 and emotional connections between material 41 01:04:06,283 --> 01:04:08,867 through the use of the multi image. 42 01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:11,534 Because like, why would 300, 000 or 120, 000, 60, 000, 43 01:04:11,617 --> 01:04:15,410 70, 000 people come to anything just because it's music? 44 01:04:15,452 --> 01:04:19,994 I mean , was music all that important? I don't really think so. 45 01:04:20,077 --> 01:04:22,786 People don't know. They don't know how to live, 46 01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:23,953 and they don't know what to do, 47 01:04:24,037 --> 01:04:26,787 and they think that if they can come here they can find out, 48 01:04:26,829 --> 01:04:30,705 you know, what it is, or how to maintain with it. 49 01:04:30,788 --> 01:04:32,788 It's just like people are very lost, I think. 50 01:04:32,955 --> 01:04:35,456 I'd been up to the editing lot 51 01:04:35,539 --> 01:04:37,123 when they were in New York several times 52 01:04:37,165 --> 01:04:41,124 and watched this unbelievable amount of footage, 53 01:04:41,166 --> 01:04:43,249 trying to get reduced into 54 01:04:44,208 --> 01:04:47,250 what ended up being , I think, three and a half hours. 55 01:04:47,292 --> 01:04:52,626 It was a monumental task, and they did a brilliant job. 56 01:04:52,668 --> 01:04:55,377 Even though we ran out of film , you know, a bunch of times, 57 01:04:55,461 --> 01:04:58,794 and had to conserve, not shoot so many acts 58 01:04:58,878 --> 01:05:02,920 or at least the totality of some of the acts they should've shot, 59 01:05:02,962 --> 01:05:06,504 but given the circumstance and given what they had to do, 60 01:05:06,588 --> 01:05:08,255 it was phenomenal. 61 01:05:08,297 --> 01:05:12,423 I was certainly bent on not just making a music film , 62 01:05:12,465 --> 01:05:17,591 and as you know, every single song was put in for its lyrical value, 63 01:05:17,632 --> 01:05:20,508 you know, not just its musical value. 64 01:05:20,592 --> 01:05:22,633 We didn't select songs that were hits, 65 01:05:22,717 --> 01:05:27,302 we tried to use the lyrics as poets would to tell a story. 66 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,093 In America, it was a gigantic movie, 67 01:05:30,135 --> 01:05:32,635 and the theaters were full every night that it was on. 68 01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:37,512 People started sitting down , but then , as soon as the image came on , 69 01:05:37,596 --> 01:05:40,388 "Been a long time coming ," or Sidney Westerfeld saying ... 70 01:05:40,471 --> 01:05:42,138 My name is Sidney Westerfeld. 71 01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:46,556 I'm the owner of this antique tavern in Mongaup Valley, New York State. 72 01:05:46,848 --> 01:05:49,098 The whole theater would get up en masse, 73 01:05:49,140 --> 01:05:51,640 and they wouldn't sit down for three hours. 74 01:05:51,682 --> 01:05:55,016 It was amazing. Just amazing. 75 01:05:55,308 --> 01:05:57,767 Watching the film was really wonderful. 76 01:05:57,808 --> 01:06:02,060 I was standing in the back, watching people's reactions 77 01:06:02,143 --> 01:06:04,310 and the sequences, the edited sequences. 78 01:06:04,393 --> 01:06:06,061 The music is so wonderful. 79 01:06:06,144 --> 01:06:08,186 And people really reacted strongly. 80 01:06:08,269 --> 01:06:14,354 It was almost like being at the festival again , in a way, 81 01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,772 but in a more comfortable position. 83 01:06:17,980 --> 01:06:21,272 It had become another myth. 84 01:06:21,314 --> 01:06:27,024 We had our own myth that we communally experienced. 85 01:06:27,107 --> 01:06:30,191 And then there was the movie, which was magnificent. 86 01:06:31,275 --> 01:06:34,901 It is the essence of Woodstock, too. 87 01:06:35,317 --> 01:06:39,777 If another film director had been there, who was strictly interested in the music, 88 01:06:39,818 --> 01:06:42,861 and who had simply done the hits, 89 01:06:42,944 --> 01:06:49,695 you know, it really could have been quite a different sort of movie 90 01:06:49,779 --> 01:06:52,362 that wouldn't have had the kind of outreach , 91 01:06:52,446 --> 01:06:55,781 but because I was a documentarian and , 92 01:06:55,822 --> 01:06:57,822 well, I had photographed Martin uther King 93 01:06:57,864 --> 01:07:02,948 and Bobby Kennedy and the great movers and shakers of the '60s 94 01:07:02,990 --> 01:07:05,116 then, all of that kind of resonated, 95 01:07:05,158 --> 01:07:09,909 and hopefully, showed up in the movie. 96 01:07:10,242 --> 01:07:13,201 People were dancing in the aisles at this press screening , 97 01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:16,994 which validated what we were saying. 98 01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:20,703 And I'll never forget Ted Ashley, the head of Warner Bros. , 99 01:07:20,787 --> 01:07:23,828 came up behind me, and we were at such a war at that point that... 100 01:07:23,912 --> 01:07:25,662 And he touched me on the shoulder, and I jumped , 101 01:07:25,746 --> 01:07:28,163 and he said , "You were right." 102 01:07:28,246 --> 01:07:29,622 Which was great. Yeah. 103 01:07:29,663 --> 01:07:32,372 And then , of course, the film did become very successful. 104 01:07:32,456 --> 01:07:36,956 To look at those people, in their prime, now, 105 01:07:38,916 --> 01:07:41,708 I certainly do think it holds up. 106 01:07:42,083 --> 01:07:44,375 It's a wonderful document. 1 01:08:49,292 --> 01:08:52,044 The Hog Farm commune were a bunch of misfits 2 01:08:52,419 --> 01:08:56,381 all living together, helping each other out, experiencing life together. 3 01:08:56,464 --> 01:08:58,507 It was a beautiful commune. 4 01:08:58,548 --> 01:09:00,926 We were approached by Stan Goldstein. 5 01:09:01,009 --> 01:09:02,760 And Stan , "Well , how would you like to do 6 01:09:02,843 --> 01:09:05,971 "this music festival in New York state?" 7 01:09:06,055 --> 01:09:09,265 And we said , "Well , we're gonna be in New Mexico." 8 01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:13,602 And he said , "That's all right. We'll fly you in an astro-jet." 9 01:09:13,686 --> 01:09:16,521 And we figured he was like one toke over the line, 10 01:09:16,562 --> 01:09:17,939 and we thought nothing of it. 11 01:09:18,022 --> 01:09:20,482 The phone rings, and it's Bonnie Jean Romney 12 01:09:20,607 --> 01:09:22,651 saying they want us to come with the Hog Farm 13 01:09:22,734 --> 01:09:25,236 and to work there at Woodstock 14 01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:28,238 and help with the food and all that stuff they do. 15 01:09:28,321 --> 01:09:29,781 The Hog Farm , in a way, 16 01:09:29,864 --> 01:09:32,616 set the vibe for all of these people. 17 01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:38,913 So everybody kind of had the same easygoing, non-authoritarian attitudes. 18 01:09:40,497 --> 01:09:43,125 We set up a free kitchen that we were feeding, 19 01:09:43,208 --> 01:09:45,710 not the multitudes in any way, 20 01:09:45,751 --> 01:09:48,920 but we were able to cover the people that were really stuck 21 01:09:48,962 --> 01:09:50,422 and didn't have anything. 22 01:09:51,589 --> 01:09:54,466 I got a truck and I went to the nearby farmers 23 01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:57,260 and bought their entire farm. 24 01:09:58,886 --> 01:10:00,388 I said , "Give me that row of cabbage. 25 01:10:00,430 --> 01:10:02,597 "Give me that row of corn . Give me that row of tomatoes." 26 01:10:02,973 --> 01:10:05,266 After Woodstock got started 27 01:10:05,349 --> 01:10:07,518 and we realized how many people there were, 28 01:10:07,685 --> 01:10:11,062 we had to go back and forth to New York and get more food. 29 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,314 Having come totally unprepared 30 01:10:14,398 --> 01:10:16,400 and having just turned 16, 31 01:10:16,567 --> 01:10:19,777 I became hungry and was right there at the free kitchen. 32 01:10:20,611 --> 01:10:23,155 We were doing maybe 5, 000 people a meal 33 01:10:23,238 --> 01:10:25,907 with bulgur wheat, with salad , stuff like that. 34 01:10:25,949 --> 01:10:29,201 SI PP If you were coming to eat, you were also gonna help out. 35 01:10:29,285 --> 01:10:31,369 And I loved it. I loved being part of that group. 36 01:10:31,453 --> 01:10:33,204 And they became my family, too. 37 01:10:33,288 --> 01:10:37,082 The Hog Farm did set up what we called "freak-out centers." 38 01:10:37,624 --> 01:10:42,378 People who had taken acid for the first time or something like that. 39 01:10:43,462 --> 01:10:46,131 We already knew in the Hog Farm experience that 40 01:10:46,214 --> 01:10:48,549 you could always talk somebody down. 41 01:10:48,841 --> 01:10:52,302 We didn't want them giving the trippers Thorazine, 42 01:10:52,886 --> 01:10:56,638 because if you give somebody Thorazine, it stops their trip and knocks them out. 43 01:10:57,264 --> 01:10:58,932 We wanted them to finish their trip. 44 01:10:59,849 --> 01:11:03,311 SI PP As soon as somebody was able to be verbal again, 45 01:11:03,394 --> 01:11:05,645 they would become the doctor for the next person. 46 01:11:05,729 --> 01:11:09,315 What happened in these freak-out centers, at the free kitchen , 47 01:11:09,398 --> 01:11:12,275 was that in the same way the early volunteers had come 48 01:11:12,358 --> 01:11:14,694 and just pitched in and kind of become Hog Farmers, 49 01:11:15,403 --> 01:11:18,197 the people who got over their demons with LSD 50 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,990 or came to the kitchen , 51 01:11:20,073 --> 01:11:21,824 they basically wanted to stay and help. 52 01:11:21,908 --> 01:11:23,868 And I think that's what happened at Woodstock 53 01:11:24,701 --> 01:11:26,995 is that everybody respected everybody else. 54 01:11:27,162 --> 01:11:29,872 Once you're a Hog Farmer, you're always a Hog Farmer. 55 01:11:29,955 --> 01:11:33,666 Even if you were only a Hog Farmer for a week at Woodstock, 56 01:11:33,708 --> 01:11:35,376 you're still always a Hog Farmer. 1 01:11:47,625 --> 01:11:49,343 I came out to California 2 01:11:50,601 --> 01:11:54,456 and in '68 and '69 did a show called Playboy After Dark. 3 01:11:55,545 --> 01:11:58,228 It was a syndicated variety show. 4 01:12:00,071 --> 01:12:03,256 The premise of which was that 5 01:12:03,339 --> 01:12:06,818 instead of doing a variety show on a stage in front of an audience, 6 01:12:06,901 --> 01:12:09,122 it appeared to be my apartment. 7 01:12:09,164 --> 01:12:11,636 It appeared to be a party in my apartment. 8 01:12:12,558 --> 01:12:16,832 And we devoted one entire show to Woodstock. 9 01:12:17,336 --> 01:12:21,568 We got a response to the Vietnam War, we got the civil rights movement. 10 01:12:22,029 --> 01:12:24,417 And all of that came together with the Summer of Love. 11 01:12:26,764 --> 01:12:28,901 And that gave us Woodstock. 12 01:12:28,943 --> 01:12:31,625 And Woodstock was a celebration of all of that. 13 01:12:31,709 --> 01:12:34,474 The flower children , the hippies 14 01:12:36,234 --> 01:12:40,089 and , you know, the corny 15 01:12:41,305 --> 01:12:46,752 but still very pertinent notion of "Let's make love, not war." 16 01:12:46,836 --> 01:12:51,236 And that, in combination with the music, is what Woodstock was all about. 17 01:12:52,576 --> 01:12:53,750 As you may have overheard , 18 01:12:53,834 --> 01:12:56,180 we're going to have a kind of a special evening tonight. 19 01:12:56,265 --> 01:12:59,155 A lot of our people here, our guests, are into the contemporary scene 20 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,958 and a few of them , well ahead of it. 21 01:13:01,125 --> 01:13:02,340 But to really top the evening off, 22 01:13:02,424 --> 01:13:05,357 we're going to have clips from Woodstock, the film. 23 01:13:05,441 --> 01:13:09,883 In preparation for that show, for Playboy After Dark, 24 01:13:09,967 --> 01:13:15,582 and knowing that we were going to be devoting a show to Woodstock, 25 01:13:16,839 --> 01:13:21,574 because I had not seen the movie and I had not been at Woodstock. 26 01:13:21,658 --> 01:13:25,345 I was going with a young lady who was a regular on the show 27 01:13:25,388 --> 01:13:26,393 named Barbi Benton , 28 01:13:27,063 --> 01:13:29,453 a relationship that lasted for about eight years. 29 01:13:30,248 --> 01:13:34,439 And we went out to a post-midnight show 30 01:13:36,283 --> 01:13:41,228 and saw it the night before we did the Playboy After Dark show 31 01:13:41,311 --> 01:13:44,077 so that I would be prepared to do the interview. 33 01:13:51,075 --> 01:13:55,935 All right, that is one brief clip of several we're going to show tonight 34 01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:58,366 from what I consider to be 35 01:13:58,408 --> 01:14:01,342 one of the really remarkable documentaries of our time, 36 01:14:02,305 --> 01:14:07,208 Woodstock, which is a film by Mike Wadleigh , 37 01:14:07,291 --> 01:14:09,638 who is here with us tonight. 38 01:14:09,722 --> 01:14:11,859 -And I'm delighted to have you here, Mike. -Thanks a lot. 39 01:14:11,943 --> 01:14:15,086 And most of you have probably not had a chance to see the film yet. 40 01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:18,019 Barbi and I went in and saw it a few nights ago. 41 01:14:18,061 --> 01:14:21,874 And I want to say in front, before we talk about the film , that... 42 01:14:21,916 --> 01:14:23,341 I think you've all heard about Woodstock. 43 01:14:23,383 --> 01:14:25,645 Woodstock was, as you know, 44 01:14:25,729 --> 01:14:29,249 the most spectacular love-and-music festival of our time. 45 01:14:30,088 --> 01:14:33,649 And the film that Mike and his people have managed to make from it 46 01:14:34,571 --> 01:14:38,385 is unbelievable and , I think, really sets a new precedent 47 01:14:38,468 --> 01:14:40,270 for what documentary films ought to be all about, 48 01:14:40,312 --> 01:14:44,083 because both cinematically and from a sound point of view, 49 01:14:44,838 --> 01:14:46,472 it's a real experience. 50 01:14:46,556 --> 01:14:48,567 And it must've been something else trying to do it. 51 01:14:48,903 --> 01:14:50,075 Well , it was, in a way, 52 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,883 but the best thing about making films like this 53 01:14:52,967 --> 01:14:54,391 is that you're participating. 54 01:14:54,476 --> 01:14:59,588 I mean , it's not a sense of doing a job or making a constructed Hollywood film , 55 01:14:59,713 --> 01:15:03,276 where you have scripts and makeup people and all that. 56 01:15:03,610 --> 01:15:06,041 I mean , you just go there, participate and do it. 57 01:15:06,125 --> 01:15:11,405 And come away with a sense of vitality or a sense of reality of being there. 58 01:15:11,992 --> 01:15:15,972 And in every way, we were trying to make an experience film , 59 01:15:16,014 --> 01:15:17,397 the kind of substitute experience 60 01:15:17,481 --> 01:15:19,660 for those people who were there or who weren't there. 61 01:15:19,702 --> 01:15:20,749 It didn't matter. 62 01:15:20,833 --> 01:15:23,138 I don't think anybody knew beforehand , however, 63 01:15:23,222 --> 01:15:25,066 just how much of an experience it was going to be. 64 01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:29,046 The whole phenomenon of opposition to the war 65 01:15:29,172 --> 01:15:32,482 and a celebration of the music and a celebration of love 66 01:15:35,248 --> 01:15:36,798 was one of a kind. 67 01:15:36,883 --> 01:15:39,607 I mean , there's never been anything like it before or since. 68 01:15:41,701 --> 01:15:46,562 And I think that it was a moment in history that is remembered clearly, 69 01:15:46,898 --> 01:15:50,250 not only then , but now, or we wouldn't be talking about it. 70 01:15:50,878 --> 01:15:53,770 H EFN ER: And you , before the fact, must've had a notion 71 01:15:53,854 --> 01:15:56,661 it was going to be something special or you wouldn't have been there, but... 72 01:15:56,745 --> 01:16:01,020 Well , just like you saw in this film clip, I think what attracted most of us there 73 01:16:01,103 --> 01:16:04,581 was the idea of holding a rock festival on a big farm. 74 01:16:04,707 --> 01:16:07,766 I mean , it was like going to your uncle's farm on a weekend , okay, 76 01:16:08,897 --> 01:16:11,998 and with a big transistor radio in the form of 36 rock groups. 77 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,135 The farm looked a little different after it was all over. 78 01:16:14,177 --> 01:16:18,410 What, it was something between 00, 000 and 500, 000 people 79 01:16:18,493 --> 01:16:20,128 congregated in the area. 80 01:16:20,211 --> 01:16:23,689 Well , they say that better than half a million more 81 01:16:23,732 --> 01:16:25,156 tried to make it there. 82 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,425 I understand they were blocking the highways 83 01:16:28,508 --> 01:16:30,436 100 and more miles away 84 01:16:30,519 --> 01:16:32,154 to stop the people from getting there. 85 01:16:32,237 --> 01:16:33,579 Exactly. They closed ... 86 01:16:33,662 --> 01:16:36,093 The New York State Thruway is eight lanes wide, 87 01:16:36,135 --> 01:16:39,613 and they closed it all off and turned them all back in the other direction. 88 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,887 I have a strong music connection. 89 01:16:46,024 --> 01:16:47,826 And the show itself featured 90 01:16:47,868 --> 01:16:50,886 a combination of both jazz and rock and roll. 91 01:16:52,561 --> 01:16:56,835 And music was key to what the show was all about. 92 01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,397 It was a variety show that had humor and some conversation , 93 01:17:00,481 --> 01:17:01,780 but music was key. 94 01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:04,965 One of the most remarkable things about this particular event, 95 01:17:05,049 --> 01:17:08,066 beyond its just incredible size, 96 01:17:08,443 --> 01:17:10,328 was also the fact that these kids got together 97 01:17:10,371 --> 01:17:12,759 under rather incredible circumstances. 98 01:17:12,843 --> 01:17:15,357 Because of the size of the crowd , 99 01:17:16,195 --> 01:17:19,086 there was completely inadequate living conditions, 100 01:17:19,171 --> 01:17:24,408 food , sanitation , and they also ran into bad weather. 101 01:17:24,701 --> 01:17:26,545 No, I was glad I wasn't there, 102 01:17:26,587 --> 01:17:30,946 but I don't think I would've enjoyed all the mud. 103 01:17:31,029 --> 01:17:34,549 And the actual circumstances 104 01:17:34,633 --> 01:17:38,656 of living there for those several days 105 01:17:40,667 --> 01:17:44,313 was pretty rough and ready, and I'm not an outdoor guy. 106 01:17:44,354 --> 01:17:49,551 I created the magazine and my life as a celebration of the great indoors. 107 01:17:50,263 --> 01:17:54,538 But I think that the message, in terms of Woodstock, 108 01:17:54,579 --> 01:17:56,129 was something I very much believed in. 109 01:17:56,758 --> 01:18:01,117 And there was a very open and permissive attitude 110 01:18:01,158 --> 01:18:04,553 towards both drugs and sex during the period they were staying there, 111 01:18:04,636 --> 01:18:06,983 -and yet there was no violence. -Right. 112 01:18:07,025 --> 01:18:09,456 -No violence at all . -Well. .. Excuse me, 113 01:18:09,497 --> 01:18:12,388 it was like one of the guys says in the film. 114 01:18:12,473 --> 01:18:15,615 There are a couple of adults arguing and one of them says to the other, 115 01:18:15,699 --> 01:18:19,177 "Now, can you imagine 50, 000 adults getting together 116 01:18:19,219 --> 01:18:22,194 -"with beer at any place.. ." -Right. 118 01:18:23,829 --> 01:18:28,983 There was a beautiful interview with a local police officer 119 01:18:29,778 --> 01:18:33,257 who said he thought the kids were swell and everybody was behaving themselves 120 01:18:33,299 --> 01:18:34,807 and having a good time. 121 01:18:34,891 --> 01:18:37,783 And the interviewer said , "Well , isn't that kind of a funny idea 122 01:18:37,824 --> 01:18:39,416 "or a funny attitude for a cop?" 123 01:18:39,752 --> 01:18:43,690 And he paused a moment, and he said , "I'm not a cop. I'm a police chief." 125 01:18:45,115 --> 01:18:48,259 That got an applause, I must say, at the theater where I was at. 126 01:18:48,342 --> 01:18:50,605 You know, the kind of things, including the rain 127 01:18:50,689 --> 01:18:55,299 and the circumstances that they faced out there in the country, 128 01:18:55,382 --> 01:18:57,561 not only didn't get in their way, it seemed to add to the fun. 129 01:18:57,603 --> 01:18:59,447 Yeah. I mean , most people... 130 01:18:59,488 --> 01:19:02,129 This is what it means to make this kind of a film. 131 01:19:02,213 --> 01:19:05,271 Because most guys would've run for cover and put their cameras away. 132 01:19:05,313 --> 01:19:09,126 But our people got out in the mud and , as you know, there are later shots 133 01:19:09,168 --> 01:19:11,683 where the cameraman actually slides with his camera, 134 01:19:12,311 --> 01:19:13,861 point-of-view shots. 135 01:19:13,904 --> 01:19:16,669 But that was the whole thing that I mean about participating. 136 01:19:16,712 --> 01:19:20,567 There wasn't a separation between the people who were making the film 137 01:19:20,650 --> 01:19:22,285 and the people who were in front of the cameras. 138 01:19:22,368 --> 01:19:25,134 I mean , it was all a rapport situation. 139 01:19:25,217 --> 01:19:27,103 You were very good about showing both sides, 140 01:19:27,145 --> 01:19:29,450 but an amazing number of people in the community, 141 01:19:29,492 --> 01:19:33,096 the people there pitched in when they found out 142 01:19:33,137 --> 01:19:34,730 that kids were there and didn't have anything to eat. 143 01:19:34,814 --> 01:19:36,448 They pitched in and brought food to the kids, 144 01:19:36,490 --> 01:19:38,544 set up additional sanitation facilities. 145 01:19:39,884 --> 01:19:43,194 The love-festival aspect of it and the spiritual aspect of it, 146 01:19:43,237 --> 01:19:44,578 -I think, did come across. - And ... 147 01:19:44,661 --> 01:19:46,798 How much footage did you shoot? 148 01:19:46,883 --> 01:19:49,145 We shot a quarter of a million feet, 150 01:19:50,276 --> 01:19:52,456 which is about 120 hours. 151 01:19:52,581 --> 01:19:56,646 And then the film is three hours long , but with all the multiple images added up, 152 01:19:56,730 --> 01:19:58,280 it's really eight hours long. 153 01:19:58,364 --> 01:20:00,291 So, we used a lot of footage. 154 01:20:01,465 --> 01:20:04,482 Well , the one thing that I alluded to at the beginning 155 01:20:04,566 --> 01:20:07,163 that I wanna really say again is that I think that this, 156 01:20:07,248 --> 01:20:09,720 not only is the most remarkable documentary 157 01:20:09,804 --> 01:20:11,313 done on this particular subject 158 01:20:12,318 --> 01:20:16,969 that I have ever seen , but I think it also sets a new precedent 159 01:20:17,054 --> 01:20:20,783 in terms of what one can expect in the way of documentaries in the future 160 01:20:20,866 --> 01:20:23,422 in terms of excellence of photography and sound. 161 01:20:23,926 --> 01:20:26,482 -Thank you . -This is the first time that we've had 162 01:20:26,984 --> 01:20:31,719 a chance to meet, and I want to thank you for coming this evening 163 01:20:31,803 --> 01:20:34,778 and for bringing this film and allowing us to show it on the air. 164 01:20:35,491 --> 01:20:36,832 Because I think that the kids enjoyed it here 165 01:20:36,915 --> 01:20:39,137 and the folks at home enjoyed it. 166 01:20:39,179 --> 01:20:44,920 And I want to personally recommend to everyone, young and old , 167 01:20:45,045 --> 01:20:48,230 this film which I think is one of the most important motion pictures 168 01:20:48,271 --> 01:20:49,361 you're going to see in quite a while. 169 01:20:50,032 --> 01:20:54,641 One of the things that is most fortunate 170 01:20:54,767 --> 01:21:01,471 is that that film exists that captured the real sense 171 01:21:01,555 --> 01:21:04,949 of that remarkable weekend. 172 01:21:06,542 --> 01:21:10,271 And it's a phenomenal documentary. 1 01:21:28,083 --> 01:21:31,925 I think the two seminal events from 1969 2 01:21:32,008 --> 01:21:35,015 were the moon landing and Woodstock, one could say. 3 01:21:35,432 --> 01:21:39,065 And they were both such romantic, improbable, 4 01:21:39,190 --> 01:21:41,862 glorious, innocent events in some sense. 5 01:21:41,945 --> 01:21:44,033 We were in Bethel. 6 01:21:44,075 --> 01:21:49,126 By that point, we took over a small motel for a while. 7 01:21:49,211 --> 01:21:52,549 I got us a television so we could watch the moon landing. 8 01:21:53,177 --> 01:21:55,098 I certainly remember where I was. 9 01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:58,269 I was making a mountain-climbing film at the time, way out in the mountains, 10 01:21:58,354 --> 01:21:59,481 and I came out of the mountains 11 01:21:59,564 --> 01:22:02,654 just in time to see the guys landing on the moon. 12 01:22:02,737 --> 01:22:06,830 And we were in a bar in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. 13 01:22:06,912 --> 01:22:10,086 And , God ! We'd go out and look up at the real moon 14 01:22:10,128 --> 01:22:12,924 and look at the TV and think, "Oh , my God! 15 01:22:13,009 --> 01:22:14,804 "Isn't this just remarkable?" 16 01:22:16,098 --> 01:22:18,437 That's one small step for man, 17 01:22:21,234 --> 01:22:24,030 one giant leap for mankind. 18 01:22:25,534 --> 01:22:27,496 That looks beautiful from here, Neil. 19 01:22:27,580 --> 01:22:31,796 Being this group of conspiracy-theory, 20 01:22:31,839 --> 01:22:35,597 counterculture, nothing-is-what-you-see people, 21 01:22:36,138 --> 01:22:37,725 no one believed it was happening. 22 01:22:38,143 --> 01:22:41,983 And I had gotten them the television to watch a thing that 23 01:22:42,026 --> 01:22:44,405 they felt was being done in a sound studio. 24 01:22:44,656 --> 01:22:46,451 But that was kind of wonderful , too. 25 01:22:46,660 --> 01:22:48,330 WADEIGH And then just a little while later, 26 01:22:48,371 --> 01:22:51,002 there I was, standing on the stage at Woodstock. 27 01:22:51,085 --> 01:22:55,177 And I remember when each day the New York Times banner came in , 28 01:22:55,219 --> 01:22:56,555 and we got the biggest... 29 01:22:56,638 --> 01:23:00,522 We got as much width as the moon landing got, right. 30 01:23:00,605 --> 01:23:03,778 And of course, it's a famous story that the New York Times 31 01:23:03,861 --> 01:23:07,494 carefully analyzes whether you're worth the whole width or not. 32 01:23:07,577 --> 01:23:11,000 Well , we got the whole width. 33 01:23:11,042 --> 01:23:13,381 And I just remember, 34 01:23:13,631 --> 01:23:16,387 for me, standing there looking at the moon and so on 35 01:23:16,428 --> 01:23:19,184 and standing there looking at all those people 36 01:23:19,226 --> 01:23:21,565 and those incredible musicians. 37 01:23:21,647 --> 01:23:25,822 And isn't it interesting that, equally, we have not had another Woodstock 38 01:23:25,906 --> 01:23:27,869 and we have not had another moon landing. 39 01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:31,876 And maybe, again, the economics of it all and the dream 40 01:23:31,918 --> 01:23:36,887 and the idealism and so on that drove both events, I would say, 41 01:23:38,431 --> 01:23:41,980 maybe now with money being so much tighter 42 01:23:42,063 --> 01:23:46,071 and with calculation being so much tighter, 43 01:23:46,113 --> 01:23:51,415 it's harder to launch those kind of idealistic endeavors. 44 01:23:51,458 --> 01:23:52,793 But, boy, were they great. 1 01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:09,080 The Woodstock Festival was going to take place 2 01:24:09,164 --> 01:24:12,530 in Woodstock, New York, till they were kicked out. 3 01:24:12,655 --> 01:24:15,689 Well , there wasn't an original location until down the road. 4 01:24:15,772 --> 01:24:17,103 I mean , we were looking for quite a while. 5 01:24:17,144 --> 01:24:18,142 BE They had been moving around. 6 01:24:18,225 --> 01:24:19,264 I mean, these festival guys, 7 01:24:19,305 --> 01:24:22,715 you know, had had three prior locations 8 01:24:22,797 --> 01:24:26,372 announced on the radio, starting in March of 1969. 9 01:24:26,497 --> 01:24:30,778 We finally settled on Wallkill at the end of March , 10 01:24:32,524 --> 01:24:34,104 out of desperation , really. 11 01:24:34,228 --> 01:24:36,099 And it was a site that I always hated. 12 01:24:36,182 --> 01:24:40,090 It had the virtue of being there and being available, so we went for it. 13 01:24:40,172 --> 01:24:41,668 We lost Wallkill. 14 01:24:41,752 --> 01:24:43,082 It was kind of miraculous the way that happened. 15 01:24:43,123 --> 01:24:48,942 We lost Wallkill on the 1 th or the 15th when the town council decided 16 01:24:49,026 --> 01:24:51,935 that they were not going to approve our permit, 17 01:24:52,019 --> 01:24:54,139 the permit they invented for this event. 18 01:24:54,222 --> 01:24:59,169 And I found a better one on the 16th , a day later. 19 01:24:59,210 --> 01:25:04,240 Well , we wound up there because somebody named Elliot Tiber called me 20 01:25:04,323 --> 01:25:07,565 and said , "I have a site and a permit, and we want you ." 21 01:25:07,897 --> 01:25:10,849 Met Elliot at the El Monaco Motel 22 01:25:11,971 --> 01:25:15,171 right in the middle of the town of White Lake. 23 01:25:15,213 --> 01:25:20,159 And Elliot led us down to a field behind the motel 24 01:25:20,243 --> 01:25:25,605 that he and his parents operated , which from the rim looked beautiful. 25 01:25:25,647 --> 01:25:30,427 As we walked down into it, it began to get squishy, 26 01:25:30,468 --> 01:25:33,337 and then it got squishier, 27 01:25:33,419 --> 01:25:36,496 and then we wound up in mud to our knees. 28 01:25:36,579 --> 01:25:40,112 And Elliot had bugged out, Elliot had simply disappeared. 29 01:25:40,278 --> 01:25:41,942 And that was the end of that site. 30 01:25:42,107 --> 01:25:45,766 I received a call through Elliot Tiber, 31 01:25:45,848 --> 01:25:50,421 who said that there was this man , a fixer, 32 01:25:50,629 --> 01:25:52,083 someone who's a go-between, 33 01:25:52,167 --> 01:25:55,949 who puts this guy together with this guy and they make a deal. 34 01:25:56,033 --> 01:25:58,235 And he knew a man who had a farm. 35 01:25:58,693 --> 01:26:01,768 We got in this big Buick and we went driving through the countryside. 36 01:26:01,935 --> 01:26:06,923 Michael and I drove up and we got there and we met Max. 37 01:26:07,047 --> 01:26:11,994 And we drove out in two cars, the fixer and Max in one car, 38 01:26:12,035 --> 01:26:14,322 Michael and I in the other, 39 01:26:14,363 --> 01:26:18,603 and he took us to this enormous field , very flat but very big. 40 01:26:18,687 --> 01:26:21,056 And there it is. 41 01:26:21,347 --> 01:26:24,839 And , like, I looked at Michael and I said , "Boy, you know, it's big , 42 01:26:24,922 --> 01:26:27,125 "but this would make a parking lot. 43 01:26:27,166 --> 01:26:30,034 "We need some elevation , we need something , 44 01:26:30,118 --> 01:26:32,445 "because people have got to see the stage." 45 01:26:32,487 --> 01:26:38,390 And we said , "Do you have anything that has some roll to it, some contour?" 46 01:26:38,473 --> 01:26:42,879 "I have a field , alfalfa." 47 01:26:42,961 --> 01:26:45,456 And we go out and look at it. 48 01:26:45,539 --> 01:26:50,527 So we drove out, and it was raining , drizzling , 49 01:26:50,610 --> 01:26:54,268 and there was a mist eve*here, 50 01:26:54,352 --> 01:26:58,591 and we were on the top of what is now this famous amphitheater, you know. 51 01:26:58,674 --> 01:27:02,082 And the mist started to rise, and there was the lake, 52 01:27:02,124 --> 01:27:05,408 and here was this perfect amphitheater. 53 01:27:05,491 --> 01:27:09,149 ANG There it was. We stopped the car. You know, "This is it." 54 01:27:09,232 --> 01:27:11,892 Sort of we were congratulating each other, 55 01:27:11,976 --> 01:27:14,511 and then Michael took Max to the side 56 01:27:14,553 --> 01:27:18,710 and very quickly they made a deal. 57 01:27:19,208 --> 01:27:20,871 And he'd heard what happened to us in Wallkill 58 01:27:20,912 --> 01:27:23,032 and thought that we were railroaded. 59 01:27:23,116 --> 01:27:26,358 And so he was politically, if you will , on our side. 60 01:27:27,729 --> 01:27:30,639 ...and felt that we had been treated unfairly, 61 01:27:30,681 --> 01:27:34,172 that a special case was being made, 62 01:27:34,214 --> 01:27:38,329 and that he was gonna stand up for what was right. 63 01:27:38,662 --> 01:27:42,444 Max and I went off into the field , 64 01:27:42,486 --> 01:27:44,648 and I said , you know, "This is it. 65 01:27:44,731 --> 01:27:49,303 "We really want your field . This is where we need to be." 66 01:27:49,345 --> 01:27:51,215 And we made a deal, right there on the field. 67 01:27:51,298 --> 01:27:57,450 Max was a Yankee in the very best meaning of the words 68 01:27:57,533 --> 01:28:00,859 and a true believer in the American dream. 69 01:28:01,607 --> 01:28:04,350 I'm a farmer. I don't know... 71 01:28:09,006 --> 01:28:14,368 I don't know how to speak to 20 people at one time, let alone a crowd like this, 72 01:28:17,028 --> 01:28:21,227 but I think you people have proven something to the world. 73 01:28:21,850 --> 01:28:25,715 Not only to the town of Bethel or Sullivan County or New York State, 74 01:28:25,799 --> 01:28:28,168 you've proven something to the world. 75 01:28:28,210 --> 01:28:31,867 The important thing that you've proven to the world 76 01:28:31,909 --> 01:28:34,196 is that a half a million kids, 77 01:28:34,237 --> 01:28:38,061 and I call you kids because I have children that are older than you are, 78 01:28:38,144 --> 01:28:41,512 a half a million young people can get together 79 01:28:41,594 --> 01:28:46,998 and have three days of fun and music, and have nothing but fun and music, 80 01:28:47,123 --> 01:28:49,118 and God bless you for it! 81 01:28:52,942 --> 01:28:54,148 ANG Max was an amazing guy. 82 01:28:54,190 --> 01:28:59,136 Max was, you know, one of those sort of real American 83 01:29:02,378 --> 01:29:04,331 wholegrain kinds of guys, 84 01:29:05,204 --> 01:29:09,361 very straight, very honest, very conservative in a lot of ways, 85 01:29:10,733 --> 01:29:12,770 but a real man of his word 86 01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:19,919 and someone who thought that people had the right to do 87 01:29:20,003 --> 01:29:21,000 whatever they wanted to do 88 01:29:21,083 --> 01:29:24,492 as long as it was not adversely affecting the people around them. 1 01:29:34,633 --> 01:29:36,779 We had all agreed 2 01:29:36,786 --> 01:29:40,878 that bringing over this new KEM, the KEM editing machine 3 01:29:40,905 --> 01:29:42,951 from Frankfurt, Germany, 4 01:29:43,191 --> 01:29:47,283 was an absolutely essential ingredient to the whole thing. 5 01:29:47,343 --> 01:29:51,035 Yeah , that enabled the multiple images to be cut effectively 6 01:29:51,316 --> 01:29:55,008 so you could preview them without going to an optical stage, 7 01:29:55,028 --> 01:29:56,127 which none of us could afford to do. 8 01:29:56,194 --> 01:29:59,091 At the time, we didn't have that much money, 9 01:29:59,231 --> 01:30:03,028 and it was a lot of money for me to lay out. 10 01:30:03,084 --> 01:30:04,382 I think it was 15 grand 11 01:30:04,504 --> 01:30:05,803 -or something like that. -Yeah , 15 grand. 12 01:30:05,836 --> 01:30:08,333 In those days, 15, 000 was a great deal of money. 13 01:30:08,389 --> 01:30:12,485 And I was really interested, intellectually, in multiple image work, 14 01:30:12,518 --> 01:30:15,515 and also trying to figure out how to beat the bank, 15 01:30:15,593 --> 01:30:19,390 how to do it simply and effectively and economically. 16 01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:24,485 So I'd read about this company that had designed 17 01:30:24,884 --> 01:30:26,783 this three-headed monster. 18 01:30:27,037 --> 01:30:28,935 Three, I mean, you could put up 19 01:30:29,146 --> 01:30:33,542 three images and one soundtrack, or two soundtracks and two images. 20 01:30:33,587 --> 01:30:37,383 It was just a breakthrough for us, particularly for me 21 01:30:37,472 --> 01:30:38,671 in the documentary footage, 22 01:30:38,804 --> 01:30:42,500 it meant I could buzz through large quantities of footage.++++ 23 01:30:42,822 --> 01:30:45,519 I could have three images up all the time 24 01:30:45,619 --> 01:30:49,216 and be looking for ways to inter cut things. 25 01:30:49,504 --> 01:30:52,601 It struck me as just a magnificent machine, 26 01:30:52,679 --> 01:30:55,177 so we particularly went to the factory, 27 01:30:55,277 --> 01:30:58,174 and we got the very first one that came to America. 28 01:30:58,263 --> 01:31:00,660 -And.. . -I'm gonna tell that little story, 29 01:31:00,693 --> 01:31:01,892 because it's really hilarious. 30 01:31:02,059 --> 01:31:07,154 Francis was building , in San Francisco, American Zoetrope. 31 01:31:08,353 --> 01:31:12,149 He had all of his dubbing machines in San Francisco at Zoetrope, 32 01:31:12,249 --> 01:31:14,047 but he did not have any of the editing machines. 33 01:31:14,791 --> 01:31:18,387 Peter Wolfert, at KEM in Frankfurt, 34 01:31:18,432 --> 01:31:24,326 had said that one of his machines was going to land at JFK 35 01:31:24,537 --> 01:31:26,835 on a pallet, you know, like tomorrow morning. 36 01:31:28,012 --> 01:31:29,510 And I got on the phone with Francis 37 01:31:30,143 --> 01:31:33,939 and said , "We would like to rent your KEM machine, 38 01:31:34,039 --> 01:31:36,037 "because we understand it's in New York, 39 01:31:36,046 --> 01:31:38,524 "and we're doing this film called Woodstock, and blah , blah , blah ." 40 01:31:38,568 --> 01:31:39,866 And he said , "No, you can't possibly." 41 01:31:39,911 --> 01:31:42,709 I said , "Francis, Francis ! " And I begged , begged. 42 01:31:42,730 --> 01:31:46,227 We all begged Francis to let us have this one. 43 01:31:46,305 --> 01:31:48,203 And we worked out a rental agreement, 44 01:31:48,469 --> 01:31:52,365 and we got Peter Wolfert to send Francis a second one 45 01:31:52,443 --> 01:31:54,241 almost immediately thereafter. 46 01:31:54,508 --> 01:31:59,004 But the very first one that Francis wanted and was expecting 47 01:31:59,071 --> 01:32:01,868 landed in our editing place. 48 01:32:02,478 --> 01:32:04,376 WADEIGH But that machine was an absolute godsend. 49 01:32:04,442 --> 01:32:06,840 They were everything we thought they were. 50 01:32:06,875 --> 01:32:09,672 It was super German engineering. 51 01:32:09,689 --> 01:32:10,988 They really worked , 52 01:32:11,047 --> 01:32:13,856 they were wonderfully, wonderfully thought out. 53 01:32:13,967 --> 01:32:18,662 It was a wonderful machine, quiet, beautifully designed , 54 01:32:18,751 --> 01:32:20,150 and that's what I was working on, 55 01:32:20,594 --> 01:32:22,991 originally, when we were cutting the Aretha Franklin footage 56 01:32:23,091 --> 01:32:25,089 that inspired the idea of multiple images. 57 01:32:25,246 --> 01:32:30,041 Then I aggressively went after multiple image ideas in film 58 01:32:30,862 --> 01:32:33,959 to increase this kind of point of view potential. 59 01:32:34,136 --> 01:32:36,534 Michael was showing me things as we went along. 60 01:32:37,244 --> 01:32:43,239 One day, he said to me, "Fred , I'd like to do split-screen ." 61 01:32:43,282 --> 01:32:45,281 And I said , "Mike, I hate split-screen. 62 01:32:45,458 --> 01:32:48,455 "If there's anything I hate, it's split-screen ." 63 01:32:48,464 --> 01:32:50,243 I said it usually never works. 64 01:32:50,343 --> 01:32:51,741 He said , "Well , let me show you this, okay?" 65 01:32:51,896 --> 01:32:56,192 And he showed me two 16mm cameras together, right, 66 01:32:56,426 --> 01:33:00,921 and he showed me the section that he'd edited with them. 67 01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:05,395 And it blew me away. It really got me so excited. 68 01:33:05,706 --> 01:33:09,202 We were approached at the end of J uly of 1969 69 01:33:09,321 --> 01:33:14,116 by David and Al Maysles and Porter Bibb, their producer, 70 01:33:14,708 --> 01:33:18,704 who had heard that we had this technique, 71 01:33:18,804 --> 01:33:22,400 and we brought them into a screening room , 72 01:33:22,644 --> 01:33:27,140 and in the screening room , which was, maybe, 20 feet by 20 feet, 73 01:33:27,296 --> 01:33:30,792 there were three projectors, Graflex projectors, 74 01:33:30,914 --> 01:33:33,711 on three projector stands, 75 01:33:33,811 --> 01:33:39,106 a three-image, two-track film 76 01:33:39,373 --> 01:33:41,371 that was about 15 minutes in length. 77 01:33:41,515 --> 01:33:44,712 Certainly, some of that footage proved to us 78 01:33:44,801 --> 01:33:49,196 that if you had a great performer, and a great set of circumstances, 79 01:33:49,285 --> 01:33:51,383 that this would add not just a gimmick, 80 01:33:51,505 --> 01:33:54,902 but a real , new kind of way of perceiving events 81 01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,477 and performances that enhanced it. 82 01:33:57,755 --> 01:34:03,949 And this occurred , like, every time that we invited new people in. 83 01:34:04,049 --> 01:34:08,145 We had so revolutionized Hollywood by importing 84 01:34:08,267 --> 01:34:11,130 the first flatbed editing tables that they had ever seen. 1 01:34:22,250 --> 01:34:26,462 The '60s generation is often called the Woodstock generation. 2 01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:30,298 I don't think the decade had a name 3 01:34:30,340 --> 01:34:32,342 before Woodstock happened , 4 01:34:32,424 --> 01:34:38,055 but it enabled our media-driven society 5 01:34:38,138 --> 01:34:42,850 to be able to put a symbol next to a feeling. 6 01:34:42,934 --> 01:34:46,478 The '60s was a feeling among people. 7 01:34:46,645 --> 01:34:50,148 At the time it felt like something that was just very important. 8 01:34:50,190 --> 01:34:52,441 They were the first generation that really believed 9 01:34:52,483 --> 01:34:55,277 that they could actually make a monumental difference. 10 01:34:55,319 --> 01:34:58,780 And they were getting conflicting messages from the establishment. 11 01:34:58,822 --> 01:35:00,740 "You gotta be this way. You've gotta do things." 12 01:35:00,823 --> 01:35:03,952 And the establishment wasn't being this way 13 01:35:03,992 --> 01:35:05,035 and wasn't doing these things. 14 01:35:05,119 --> 01:35:07,996 My group wasn't buying that. 15 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,332 They weren't buying into the American dream , 16 01:35:11,374 --> 01:35:13,125 as it had been presented. 17 01:35:13,167 --> 01:35:14,335 We were more into changing things. 18 01:35:14,417 --> 01:35:16,671 We were more into the revolution of changing. 19 01:35:16,711 --> 01:35:18,797 We're not gonna do this, we're not gonna have jobs, 20 01:35:18,838 --> 01:35:21,006 we don't wanna go to school, we don't wanna do any of those things. 21 01:35:21,091 --> 01:35:26,262 I think we all meant to change it very, very, in a very peaceful way. 22 01:35:30,682 --> 01:35:33,351 Well, of course, the ecology movement got started then. 23 01:35:33,393 --> 01:35:35,936 The consciousness for what's happening to the planet 24 01:35:36,019 --> 01:35:37,521 began during that era. 25 01:35:37,604 --> 01:35:39,815 Anti-war, you know, here we are to Iraq , 26 01:35:39,855 --> 01:35:41,524 well , it was Vietnam then. 27 01:35:41,607 --> 01:35:44,693 This horrible war going on that nobody wanted any part of. 28 01:35:44,777 --> 01:35:46,695 It was unpopular, but it was going on , 29 01:35:46,736 --> 01:35:50,489 and everybody knew it was pretty much the wrong thing to be doing. 30 01:35:50,907 --> 01:35:53,534 The United States Army has lent us some medical teams 31 01:35:56,203 --> 01:35:57,912 and giving us a hand. 33 01:35:59,288 --> 01:36:01,331 They're with us, man. They are not against us. 34 01:36:01,373 --> 01:36:04,418 They are with us. They're here to give us all a hand and help us. 35 01:36:04,501 --> 01:36:07,045 We, the youth of the time, 36 01:36:07,921 --> 01:36:09,922 felt like we were sort of backed into a corner, 37 01:36:10,006 --> 01:36:11,882 and at the same time, we were huge. 38 01:36:13,425 --> 01:36:15,011 Woodstock showed to the world 39 01:36:15,635 --> 01:36:18,430 all these people who had been against Vietnam , 40 01:36:18,513 --> 01:36:20,974 against the new sexual mores, 41 01:36:21,056 --> 01:36:23,517 all the things that were happening in the '60s 42 01:36:23,559 --> 01:36:25,561 all came together at Woodstock. 43 01:36:25,728 --> 01:36:29,022 It was not only anti-war, it was love in the broader sense. 44 01:36:29,063 --> 01:36:35,110 It was a breakdown of racial boundaries, something that I very strongly feel. 45 01:36:35,193 --> 01:36:36,736 I felt then , feel today. 46 01:36:36,861 --> 01:36:43,033 U ntil 1965, you could go to a soda fountain in South Carolina 47 01:36:43,074 --> 01:36:45,827 and not be allowed to sit next to someone who wasn't your color. 48 01:36:46,036 --> 01:36:48,162 Also human rights, you know, gay rights, 49 01:36:48,246 --> 01:36:50,914 women's rights, black rights, and so on , 50 01:36:50,956 --> 01:36:53,624 that took off during that time. 51 01:36:53,709 --> 01:36:56,878 It was a breaking down of of all the various boundaries 52 01:36:56,919 --> 01:36:59,964 that separate men and nations. 53 01:37:00,047 --> 01:37:05,260 That was a very rapid change, that had really affected everything 54 01:37:05,301 --> 01:37:08,054 that was what we call the Woodstock generation. 55 01:37:08,095 --> 01:37:12,974 All of those sort of things had a sort of mini-revolution. 56 01:37:13,058 --> 01:37:15,018 And there it was for people to see, 57 01:37:15,101 --> 01:37:17,561 and they could see these wonderful people, 58 01:37:17,603 --> 01:37:20,522 and , you know, you'd been hearing about hippies and all the terrible... 59 01:37:20,606 --> 01:37:24,567 And here they are, these wonderful , joyous people 60 01:37:24,610 --> 01:37:26,361 having the greatest time of their life. 61 01:37:26,443 --> 01:37:29,654 This was, you know, a show of force, 62 01:37:32,199 --> 01:37:34,241 for everybody to say, "Okay, 63 01:37:34,326 --> 01:37:37,703 "things are changing , and we're gonna change the world ." 64 01:37:37,787 --> 01:37:40,581 And you really felt at that time 65 01:37:41,414 --> 01:37:43,166 that there was a difference being made here 66 01:37:43,249 --> 01:37:45,626 just by the show of people. 67 01:37:45,667 --> 01:37:50,172 I think that this event culminated that decade 68 01:37:50,254 --> 01:37:52,799 and somewhat culminated that feeling. 69 01:37:52,882 --> 01:37:56,051 Somebody was saying this was the second largest city in New York. 70 01:37:56,135 --> 01:38:00,097 There's been no police. There's been no trouble. 71 01:38:00,347 --> 01:38:03,725 I NTERVI EWER: You said a moment ago that this wasn't the end of this festival , 72 01:38:03,808 --> 01:38:06,434 that this was a beginning . What do you mean , a beginning? 73 01:38:06,477 --> 01:38:08,978 Well , look at it. 74 01:38:09,771 --> 01:38:11,189 This is the beginning of this kind of thing. 75 01:38:11,272 --> 01:38:12,690 ARTIE Of this kind of thing? 76 01:38:12,774 --> 01:38:16,527 Worldwide, I don't feel that anyone thinks that another generation , 77 01:38:16,610 --> 01:38:18,195 even right up to now, 78 01:38:18,278 --> 01:38:20,863 has even come close to starting a revolution 79 01:38:20,948 --> 01:38:23,032 like the Woodstock generation did. 80 01:38:23,117 --> 01:38:27,494 So, I'm sort of proud and excited to be part of it. 81 01:38:28,328 --> 01:38:30,079 I'm very proud to be of that generation , 82 01:38:30,163 --> 01:38:34,083 and I think we stopped the planet for a year or so. 83 01:38:34,667 --> 01:38:37,753 Woodstock was like the.. . It was the wraparound that said , 84 01:38:37,836 --> 01:38:40,588 "This is the Woodstock nation ." 85 01:38:41,172 --> 01:38:43,173 And because that weekend we could all cooperate, 86 01:38:43,216 --> 01:38:46,802 there was a birth , a death , there was a cosmos there. 87 01:38:46,844 --> 01:38:50,180 And we did , we all cooperated . I stayed out there for three nights. 88 01:38:50,263 --> 01:38:54,224 Can't remember it all , but we were very much a part of it, 89 01:38:54,891 --> 01:38:59,104 so it was an important cultural landmark. 2 01:39:25,250 --> 01:39:26,876 The Woodstock Music and Art Fair, 3 01:39:26,959 --> 01:39:30,002 the three-day Aquarian Exposition at White ake in Bethel, New York 4 01:39:30,087 --> 01:39:33,504 will give you uncomplicated, unhurried, calm days of peace and music. 5 01:39:33,962 --> 01:39:36,756 Friday, August 15th, you'll hear stars such as Joan Baez, 6 01:39:36,839 --> 01:39:40,633 Arlo Guthrie, Tim Hart, Richie Havens, Ravi Shankar and many others. 7 01:39:41,049 --> 01:39:44,468 Saturday, August 16th, Canned Heat, Creedence Clearwater Revival, 8 01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:47,595 Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane and The Who. 9 01:39:48,011 --> 01:39:50,054 Sunday, August 17th, Blood, Sweat and Tears, 10 01:39:50,137 --> 01:39:53,889 Crosby, Stills and Nash, Santana, Jimi Hendrix, Johnny Winter, 11 01:39:53,972 --> 01:39:55,224 and that's not all. 12 01:39:55,306 --> 01:39:57,974 Camp grounds will be open for two days before the festival. 13 01:39:58,016 --> 01:40:02,519 There are over 600 acres of land to roam, bazaars to browse, creative workshops. 14 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,145 Heavy traffic is anticipated, so leave early if you wish to arrive on time. 15 01:40:06,896 --> 01:40:08,480 Tickets for the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair 16 01:40:08,522 --> 01:40:12,232 are *7, *14 and *18 for one, two or three days 17 01:40:12,315 --> 01:40:15,150 and can be purchased in advance at most local record stores. 18 01:40:15,191 --> 01:40:16,942 No checks will be accepted at the gate. 19 01:40:17,526 --> 01:40:21,820 Be at the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair, August 15th, 16th and 17th 20 01:40:21,861 --> 01:40:23,695 in Bethel, New York. 21 01:40:23,780 --> 01:40:25,905 (RADIO TU N I NG 22 01:40:27,864 --> 01:40:31,450 WOMAN More than 200, 000 followers of pop music 23 01:40:31,533 --> 01:40:34,535 have jammed the Catskill Mountain hamlet of Bethel 24 01:40:34,618 --> 01:40:36,285 for a rock music festival. 25 01:40:36,369 --> 01:40:39,829 Cars are being abandoned on highways leading to the resort area. 26 01:40:39,870 --> 01:40:43,706 Festival producers have called for all vehicles heading to that festival 27 01:40:43,789 --> 01:40:45,498 to turn back home. 28 01:40:49,626 --> 01:40:51,125 Few other announcements. 29 01:40:52,127 --> 01:40:57,004 The road, third road on your left is still a problem, 30 01:40:57,045 --> 01:41:00,923 for entrance and access, please, have that cleared as soon as possible. 32 01:41:24,143 --> 01:41:27,894 We're sorry for the technical necessities of the crane. 33 01:41:29,854 --> 01:41:35,022 You people that have placed tents in the viewing area, 34 01:41:35,898 --> 01:41:39,525 please do take them down so that those behind can view as well. 35 01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:46,779 In a situation such as this we must return the responsibility to you. 36 01:41:53,031 --> 01:41:56,658 One thing about this is, we're a pretty big city right now, 37 01:41:57,576 --> 01:41:59,994 so we've got all sorts of things. 38 01:42:02,578 --> 01:42:04,288 Sam, can you get the monitors on ? 39 01:42:07,247 --> 01:42:10,123 Richard Boch, get back to Eddie Kramer in the sound truck. 40 01:42:10,207 --> 01:42:11,916 Richard Boch, get back to Eddie Kramer. 41 01:42:13,917 --> 01:42:15,334 Before we begin, 42 01:42:15,418 --> 01:42:17,836 could we ask you please, once again, to leave the towers, 43 01:42:19,420 --> 01:42:24,047 and then, in the same breath, thank you for making all this possible. 1 01:42:30,333 --> 01:42:33,881 There's a couple of packages of garbage bags here. 2 01:42:35,050 --> 01:42:37,804 If on your way out, you wouldn't mind taking one, 3 01:42:37,846 --> 01:42:41,019 filling it up and leaving it where you filled it, 4 01:42:41,102 --> 01:42:43,689 that certainly would be appreciated. 5 01:42:44,858 --> 01:42:46,903 An*hing you can do to give us a hand 6 01:42:46,987 --> 01:42:50,826 to leave this area somewhat the way we found it, 7 01:42:50,868 --> 01:42:53,039 I don't think it'll ever be quite the same, 8 01:42:53,914 --> 01:42:58,213 but somewhat the way we found it, certainly would be appreciated. 10 01:43:03,514 --> 01:43:05,392 It's been a delight seeing you. 11 01:43:06,101 --> 01:43:10,567 May we wish you anything 12 01:43:11,402 --> 01:43:14,032 that the person next to you wishes for you. 13 01:43:15,201 --> 01:43:19,415 Good wishes, good day and a good life. 14 01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:21,586 Thank you. 17 01:43:43,289 --> 01:43:46,336 Pat Dutch, please go to the pink and white medical tent. 1 01:43:58,292 --> 01:44:01,759 I think that turning point was when , by Wednesday, I think, 2 01:44:01,842 --> 01:44:05,017 we had 0, 000 or 50, 000 kids sitting in the field. 3 01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:08,902 So, we'd sold 120, 000 tickets in advance, 4 01:44:08,985 --> 01:44:11,241 and if that's any indication of what's coming , 5 01:44:11,325 --> 01:44:14,834 we knew we were well over the 200, 000 we'd planned on. 6 01:44:14,876 --> 01:44:17,256 I think the turning point, actually, 7 01:44:17,341 --> 01:44:20,724 for the whole thing was when it got near to the festival , 8 01:44:20,807 --> 01:44:24,233 and people then started to break down the fences that they'd put up, 9 01:44:24,317 --> 01:44:26,572 and they had to declare it a free festival. 10 01:44:26,656 --> 01:44:29,037 It's a free concert from now on. 12 01:44:33,257 --> 01:44:37,267 I think the first time I realized something was going on was, 13 01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:39,606 you could only get in by helicopter. 14 01:44:39,648 --> 01:44:42,781 And I suddenly thought, "What's this?" And then you flew over the audience. 15 01:44:42,864 --> 01:44:44,410 It was just amazing to see. 16 01:44:44,451 --> 01:44:47,793 U p until that point, it was just another gig , another festival. 17 01:44:47,836 --> 01:44:50,634 Around this period , there were a lot of festivals going on , 18 01:44:50,676 --> 01:44:54,477 and all the groups were traveling to these festivals, you know, 19 01:44:54,561 --> 01:44:57,276 and you'd see everybody at all the festivals. 20 01:44:57,318 --> 01:45:00,619 It was like a bunch of gypsies going around at the time, so, 21 01:45:00,660 --> 01:45:02,247 actually, when Woodstock happened, 22 01:45:02,331 --> 01:45:04,670 it was another festival that was going on. 23 01:45:04,712 --> 01:45:06,383 Nobody knew that it would be 24 01:45:06,467 --> 01:45:09,390 the size or the volume of people that it was. 25 01:45:09,475 --> 01:45:10,602 They were all on pot. 26 01:45:10,685 --> 01:45:12,523 -Well , whatever it is.. . -It never should have happened. 27 01:45:12,565 --> 01:45:15,323 If pot makes them happy and no trouble, maybe we ought to put 28 01:45:15,365 --> 01:45:16,660 -all the adults on pot. -How about the morals? 29 01:45:16,701 --> 01:45:19,375 You want a 15-year-old girl sleeping in the field in a tent? 30 01:45:19,416 --> 01:45:21,589 What are you , out of your mind? It never should have happened. 31 01:45:21,673 --> 01:45:25,098 Do you feel bad about the kids who were killed in Vietnam? 32 01:45:25,181 --> 01:45:27,061 -This has nothing to do with Vietnam . -That's the same thing. 33 01:45:27,144 --> 01:45:28,941 Nothing at all to do with it. There's no comparison. 34 01:45:29,024 --> 01:45:32,742 I thought that this was going to sum up the generation , 35 01:45:32,909 --> 01:45:35,583 that it had an opportunity to do that. 36 01:45:35,667 --> 01:45:39,134 Even when it was only gonna be 50, 000 or 100, 000 people that came there, 37 01:45:39,217 --> 01:45:40,638 I still thought, "Wow! 38 01:45:40,722 --> 01:45:43,060 "Being on a farm, going back to land, 39 01:45:43,102 --> 01:45:45,943 "Woodstock, you know, all this mix 40 01:45:45,985 --> 01:45:50,413 "and these great musicians who were singing political songs, you know." 41 01:45:50,455 --> 01:45:53,170 An*ay, this is an organizing song, 42 01:45:53,253 --> 01:45:54,758 and I was happy to find out 43 01:45:54,799 --> 01:45:57,765 that after David had been in jail for two and a half weeks, 44 01:45:57,807 --> 01:46:01,065 he already had a very, very good hunger strike going 45 01:46:01,149 --> 01:46:05,201 with 42 federal prisoners, none of whom were draft people, so... 46 01:46:05,284 --> 01:46:07,247 WADEIGH These were not just pop groups. 47 01:46:07,331 --> 01:46:09,002 I'm very happy to say 48 01:46:09,085 --> 01:46:12,094 we think the people of this country should be proud of these kids. 49 01:46:12,177 --> 01:46:15,185 Notwithstanding the way they dress or the way they wear their hair, 50 01:46:15,227 --> 01:46:17,023 that's their own personal business. 51 01:46:17,065 --> 01:46:21,033 But their inner workings, their inner selves, 52 01:46:21,116 --> 01:46:24,458 their self-demeanor cannot be questioned. 53 01:46:24,543 --> 01:46:27,258 They can't be questioned as good American citizens. 54 01:46:27,341 --> 01:46:30,181 That's kind of surprising coming from a cop. 55 01:46:30,223 --> 01:46:32,563 I'm not a cop. I'm a Chief of Police. 56 01:46:32,814 --> 01:46:36,531 Festivals happened and big shows happened 57 01:46:36,614 --> 01:46:40,458 and corporate rock happened, but that was a special time. 58 01:46:40,542 --> 01:46:43,925 Nobody got rich at Woodstock. Nobody. That's cool. 1 01:46:59,733 --> 01:47:01,652 There were technical issues continuously. 2 01:47:01,694 --> 01:47:04,406 The ineffective cabling on headsets 3 01:47:04,489 --> 01:47:07,451 and trying to keep in touch with the crew, with the operators. 4 01:47:07,534 --> 01:47:08,869 The roads got overcrowded 5 01:47:08,952 --> 01:47:11,455 and the mechanical systems couldn't possibly work. 6 01:47:11,663 --> 01:47:14,541 Constantly getting bands ready to get on stage, getting equipment, 7 01:47:14,666 --> 01:47:17,335 getting everybody in one place at the right time 8 01:47:17,377 --> 01:47:19,796 to be able to go on with the show was another... 9 01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,216 GODSTEIN The pump trucks for sanitation couldn't get out 10 01:47:23,300 --> 01:47:24,886 and couldn't haul things away. 11 01:47:25,219 --> 01:47:27,388 There were always these little things that kept coming up. 12 01:47:27,513 --> 01:47:29,640 Things, which days before the show, 13 01:47:29,724 --> 01:47:33,853 we were told we couldn't possibly do, was utterly illegal. 14 01:47:33,895 --> 01:47:37,440 Mike, what's the worst part of running one of these things? 15 01:47:37,523 --> 01:47:39,484 I don't know. I don't know. 16 01:47:39,817 --> 01:47:40,902 It was continuous. It was... 17 01:47:40,985 --> 01:47:44,906 As I said , there's no single incident that stands out that way. 18 01:47:44,989 --> 01:47:47,201 It was just one after another after another. 19 01:47:47,284 --> 01:47:51,538 I remember seeing the sun coming up over the stage. 20 01:47:51,580 --> 01:47:54,249 People were hammering and sawing and things were going on. 21 01:47:54,291 --> 01:47:58,587 I mean , this was Friday morning and it started in about five hours. 22 01:47:58,670 --> 01:48:00,547 And as I got closer to the stage, 23 01:48:00,589 --> 01:48:04,259 I realized, "My God, how much work still has to be done." 24 01:48:04,426 --> 01:48:06,762 You know, we were kind of on the fly. 25 01:48:06,845 --> 01:48:11,226 And the idea of the stage was a round stage cut in half, so to speak, 26 01:48:11,267 --> 01:48:16,022 so that the first half would be the first band , 27 01:48:16,105 --> 01:48:19,067 and then the back half would be the second band 28 01:48:19,108 --> 01:48:20,610 with their gear ready to go. 29 01:48:20,652 --> 01:48:22,612 And the idea would be, once the first band finished , 30 01:48:22,695 --> 01:48:24,530 they would turn the platform , 31 01:48:24,614 --> 01:48:28,034 and then the secondary band would be in position. 32 01:48:28,117 --> 01:48:31,038 The whole thing was kind of Jerry-rigged. 33 01:48:31,121 --> 01:48:33,874 There were so many people on stage 34 01:48:33,958 --> 01:48:37,795 watching the existing act that was on and performing. 35 01:48:37,836 --> 01:48:40,422 The problem was that they all stood on the turntable, 36 01:48:40,464 --> 01:48:44,468 which was far more weight than they ever intended to support. 37 01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,763 When I was there and something was wrong , 38 01:48:47,805 --> 01:48:49,390 and someone said ... 39 01:48:49,558 --> 01:48:54,479 "Get off the turntable elevation because it's over loaded ." 40 01:48:54,813 --> 01:48:57,816 They attempted to turn this platform and all the wheels fell off. 42 01:48:59,150 --> 01:49:04,656 And it just sat like that for the entire three days. 43 01:49:04,781 --> 01:49:07,492 Yeah, I mean, Grace and Janis and everybody was standing on it, 44 01:49:07,576 --> 01:49:11,163 and you know, you can't really just sweep them off with a broom , you know. 45 01:49:11,205 --> 01:49:12,999 The best laid plans of mice and men. 46 01:49:14,250 --> 01:49:15,918 MARCELLI NO: I don't even know how they kept the power on , 47 01:49:16,002 --> 01:49:18,671 because it really rained on Sunday. 48 01:49:20,464 --> 01:49:22,675 Please move away from the towers. 49 01:49:22,758 --> 01:49:24,885 Please move away from the towers. 50 01:49:24,969 --> 01:49:26,304 Because the ground was wet, 51 01:49:26,345 --> 01:49:30,182 and because the cables did run into the audience to the towers... 52 01:49:30,266 --> 01:49:34,688 Some people, at one point, thought that the power to the towers 53 01:49:35,230 --> 01:49:38,567 was becoming exposed , the cables were becoming exposed , 54 01:49:38,650 --> 01:49:42,154 and that because there was a field of wet people 55 01:49:42,195 --> 01:49:44,865 that we were suddenly about to electrocute a half a million people. 56 01:49:44,948 --> 01:49:49,870 I was frightened to death every second . I didn't want anyone to get hurt. 57 01:49:50,329 --> 01:49:52,831 And then , to hear the stories of how the stage was sinking. 58 01:49:52,873 --> 01:49:55,877 When we played , the stage was collapsing , 59 01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,755 people screaming , "The stage is collapsing , the PA is out! " 60 01:49:58,838 --> 01:50:00,381 Everybody was getting shocks. 61 01:50:00,423 --> 01:50:03,384 It was not necessarily the safest place to be. 62 01:50:03,468 --> 01:50:05,219 You know, things like that would come up, and you'd have to 63 01:50:05,261 --> 01:50:07,221 sort of suss them out and see what the reality was, 64 01:50:07,263 --> 01:50:09,057 and then go deal with it. 65 01:50:09,474 --> 01:50:10,975 I think we can be very, very proud 66 01:50:11,059 --> 01:50:14,897 of what we accomplished in the face of enormous obstacles. 67 01:50:15,397 --> 01:50:18,025 There were so many things that could've been disastrous, 68 01:50:18,067 --> 01:50:21,570 you know, but it all just made it, it all just made it. 1 01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,278 I know I slept in a pile of velour under the stage at one time. 2 01:50:38,361 --> 01:50:41,949 I had a trailer down at the lake 3 01:50:42,033 --> 01:50:45,369 which was my lighting booth for Newport, about a 0-footer. 4 01:50:45,620 --> 01:50:50,918 We slept in the back of the tractor trailer on the floor. 5 01:50:50,959 --> 01:50:52,044 If you could call it sleeping , 6 01:50:52,085 --> 01:50:54,421 it was a few hours, if that, every night. 7 01:50:54,631 --> 01:50:56,799 Some of the guys in the band , I think, actually went back 8 01:50:56,883 --> 01:51:01,012 to whatever facilities they had for performers to stay at. 9 01:51:01,095 --> 01:51:06,101 But I figured , as long as I was there, I was gonna, you know, just sort of dive in. 10 01:51:06,393 --> 01:51:10,649 might as well just stay dirty, and be part of it all , yeah. 11 01:51:11,024 --> 01:51:13,527 When you see the brown acid announcement, 12 01:51:13,610 --> 01:51:18,407 you can tell by my fingernails and the color of my hands that, you know, 13 01:51:18,449 --> 01:51:21,285 we didn't get anywhere close to any water. 14 01:51:21,744 --> 01:51:23,704 I did not, for the record , 15 01:51:23,788 --> 01:51:27,167 I did not go and swim naked in the lake. Period. 16 01:51:27,251 --> 01:51:31,964 I think skinny-dipping is just beautiful if you want to do it, if you can do it. 17 01:51:32,047 --> 01:51:33,633 But some people can't 18 01:51:33,716 --> 01:51:39,222 because their environment made them , you know, feel that it's wrong. 19 01:51:42,434 --> 01:51:44,436 I SA A W We had discussions about 20 01:51:44,478 --> 01:51:46,647 how we were gonna feed these people that were coming. 21 01:51:46,730 --> 01:51:50,694 And we were out scrounging around some aluminum pots and this and that, 22 01:51:50,777 --> 01:51:51,987 and I looked at the whole scene 23 01:51:52,028 --> 01:51:55,323 and I said , "We don't need to scrounge." 24 01:51:55,408 --> 01:51:59,579 The Hog Farm was able to get bushels and bushels of brown rice. 25 01:51:59,662 --> 01:52:01,956 Now, that's what they served at the food booths. 26 01:52:02,498 --> 01:52:06,920 I ended up buying 160, 000 paper plates, forks, knives and spoons 27 01:52:07,004 --> 01:52:10,132 and about 30, 000 paper cups. 28 01:52:10,173 --> 01:52:14,178 And it's a good thing I did , because they all went. 29 01:52:14,262 --> 01:52:15,305 Everything went. 30 01:52:15,346 --> 01:52:20,853 So that's how I figured that we fed between 160, 000 to 190, 000 people 31 01:52:20,894 --> 01:52:22,688 at the Hog Farm free kitchen. 32 01:52:22,771 --> 01:52:26,651 They would come up and we were frantically trying to keep things going , 33 01:52:26,776 --> 01:52:28,820 and someone would just stick a hot dog in your mouth. 34 01:52:28,862 --> 01:52:31,197 That was about, maybe one or two hot dogs 35 01:52:31,281 --> 01:52:33,743 was about what we ate that whole time. 36 01:52:33,826 --> 01:52:37,747 But we didn't care, because we knew it was something fantastic. 37 01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:41,710 At one point, the "Food for ove" guys, who were our concessionaires, 38 01:52:41,793 --> 01:52:44,338 were running low on hamburgers. 39 01:52:44,379 --> 01:52:47,633 So they raised the prices from a quarter to a dollar, 40 01:52:47,716 --> 01:52:51,054 and that displeased a bunch of people, so they went up and burned them down. 41 01:52:51,095 --> 01:52:54,432 Now, there's a guy up there, some hamburger guy, 42 01:52:54,515 --> 01:52:57,394 that had his stand burned down last night, 43 01:52:58,562 --> 01:53:00,898 but he's still got a little stuff left, 44 01:53:00,981 --> 01:53:05,195 and for you people that still believe that capitalism isn't that weird, 45 01:53:05,236 --> 01:53:07,822 you might help him out and buy a couple of hamburgers. 46 01:53:08,156 --> 01:53:11,326 So I went around , making sure that there was enough food 47 01:53:11,409 --> 01:53:13,120 for the cooks to use, 48 01:53:13,204 --> 01:53:15,164 and then I would check on the medical tents. 49 01:53:15,247 --> 01:53:17,667 I was trying to get some rest in that tent, 50 01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:19,586 there was a couple of other people in there with me. 51 01:53:19,670 --> 01:53:22,506 At which point, 52 01:53:22,589 --> 01:53:25,550 one of the medical personnel came around. 53 01:53:25,592 --> 01:53:28,930 The nurses came around and said , "Anybody want a shot?" "Okay." 54 01:53:28,971 --> 01:53:32,600 So they gave us this really painful vitamin B shot 55 01:53:32,642 --> 01:53:33,643 right in the ass. 56 01:53:33,726 --> 01:53:35,437 And I tried to explain , "I can't, my arms.. ." 57 01:53:35,521 --> 01:53:37,231 He just gave me a shot of B 12. 58 01:53:37,272 --> 01:53:39,441 Oh , Jesus, God , did that hurt! 59 01:53:39,483 --> 01:53:41,276 But it helped , you know. 60 01:53:41,318 --> 01:53:43,947 (*UG H I NG Don't know what it helped with , but it definitely helped something. 61 01:53:44,030 --> 01:53:45,115 I felt great. 63 01:53:46,282 --> 01:53:47,909 There was a performers' pavilion. 64 01:53:48,159 --> 01:53:50,121 Then , all of a sudden , all that went to hell , 65 01:53:50,162 --> 01:53:52,498 because they needed it for emergency, you know. 66 01:53:52,581 --> 01:53:58,588 I had to stand up to one of the older producers 67 01:53:58,630 --> 01:54:02,134 and say that we had to have the crew tent, 68 01:54:02,175 --> 01:54:04,302 which was where we were supposed to eat. 69 01:54:04,386 --> 01:54:08,141 We had to convert it into a hospital, we had no choice. 70 01:54:08,224 --> 01:54:11,102 A lot of kids in town didn't have anything to eat. 71 01:54:11,144 --> 01:54:13,480 Word went out that everybody should contribute food. 72 01:54:13,564 --> 01:54:15,983 We went over to the park 73 01:54:16,066 --> 01:54:19,069 and the village permitted them to camp there. 74 01:54:19,153 --> 01:54:23,199 A police car went up the street here with a loudspeaker 75 01:54:23,283 --> 01:54:24,534 and told the kids to come up there. 76 01:54:24,617 --> 01:54:27,495 We fed them Saturday night, all day Sunday. 77 01:54:28,247 --> 01:54:30,791 If you got food, feed other people. 78 01:54:31,500 --> 01:54:35,380 Bugsy, to the pink and white tent. Keep feeding each other... 79 01:54:35,464 --> 01:54:38,049 Pretty soon , everybody was taking care of everybody else, 80 01:54:38,133 --> 01:54:40,177 and that's what Woodstock was about. 81 01:54:40,260 --> 01:54:43,514 ...and if you're too tired to chew, pass it on. 81 01:54:45,260 --> 01:54:49,514 164101

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