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VERNON REID It was a time of peace
and war, love and hate.
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A time of protest and exploration.
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No other era speaks to us like the '60s.
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And nowhere is its voice heard louder
than at The Museum at Bethel Woods.
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There are no words for the exhibits inside.
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It was amazing.
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I mean , I call it a time machine, man.
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It just brought back all the turmoil
that was going on at the time
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and the need to just absolutely release it.
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H I , I'm Vernon Reid. Welcome to
The Museum at Bethel Woods,
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where we'll take an unforgettable journey
through the tumultuous '60s
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and the three-day concert phenomenon
that defined a generation ,
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the Woodstock Music and Art Fair.
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How was Woodstock.
You want to know how it was?
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Go to The Museum at Bethel Woods
and you'll be at Woodstock, my friend.
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In August 1969, over 00, 000 music lovers
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and counter-culture crusaders came here,
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to Max Yasgur's Farm in Bethel, New York,
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to rock with stars like
Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix.
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40 years later, thousands of visitors
from around the world
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come to the same spot
to enjoy a state of the art museum
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whose artifacts, exhibits and stories
give us a firsthand look
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inside the Woodstock experience.
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They have a piece of the fence still in there
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and , you know, a huge bus
just staring at you when you walk in ,
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and it's as good as somebody my age
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could get to
having experienced it and been there.
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Ironically, the legendary festival wasn't
really held in the town of Woodstock,
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but only two hours north from
New York City, here in Bethel, New York.
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These rolling hills were the actual site
of the three-day festival
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and now they're home to
the museum and concert pavilion,
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all part of the
Bethel Woods Center for the Arts.
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Through personal stories,
award winning films,
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original artifacts and educational events,
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The Museum has everyone,
from baby boomers to millennials,
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talking about the political
and cultural transformation of the '60s
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and how the issues of the decade
still resonate today.
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But as much as the movements
and events of the decade
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provided a lasting impression,
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nothing from the '60s
left a deeper imprint than its music.
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With films like A Musical Revolution
and Woodstock, the Music,
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as well as interactive exhibits such as
The Music After Woodstock,
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The Museum gives a deeper look
at the influence of the era's artists
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and their songs on our world.
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One of my favorites is
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the breathtaking immersion film ,
The Festival Experience.
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A spectacular 270 degree display
of the music,
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people, sights and sounds of Woodstock,
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literally placing the visitor
in the middle of all the action.
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And even though
they came for the concert,
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many say that one of their
lasting memories from Woodstock
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was getting there.
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Thousands came by car,
but there was nothing like taking the bus.
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Loved the bus. Thought the bus was great.
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I was here in 1969 and there were
buses like that all over the place.
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One of the museum's
most popular exhibits,
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this psychedelic set of wheels
is the type of bus
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that some concertgoers
rode to Woodstock.
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There was a carload of people
getting ready to go to Woodstock.
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They said , "Do you wanna go?"
So I jumped in the car and went.
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They were coming from
all over the country.
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I think I probably packed
a change of clothes.
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Several cases of beer.
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Whether it's recalling our own wild rides
or reliving the excitement of the '60s,
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here at The Museum at Bethel Woods, we
can all be a part of the Woodstock legacy.
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Look at what we thought we could do.
All right?
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For that weekend in August of 1969,
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we really thought we were gonna
all get together and change the world.
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And we probably did.
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And, I think, for the most part,
we did some good things.
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We weren't perfect,
we didn't give you a perfect new world,
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but now it's your turn.
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MICHAE WADEIGH It was
a pretty simple decision.
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This was the best there was.
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There was no competitor at all.
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It had a quick-change lens here,
a super ingénue lens.
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And of course, I had a favorite,
a very short wide-angle lens
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that I'd start up here,
and in just two or three moves,
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in two or three seconds,
you could quickly get the zoom off,
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rotate the wide angle around
and get on and ...
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Some people's favorite shots
at Woodstock
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-were done with that wide-angle lens.
-You'd remove the 5. 9.
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Because you could get right
very, very close to the performers,
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and it gave you a tremendous
sense of depth and being there
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right on the stage with them,
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and , of course, then you had
this magazine back here
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that came off in a shot, you know.
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Its liability was if you didn't very carefully
get the loop right, it could jam.
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And you couldn't really hear it
run out effectively.
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You lived in fear and dread
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that actually you'd put the mag on ,
threaded it up,
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and you were running, but of course,
with Hendrix and all those loud acts,
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you couldn't possibly hear
whether in fact you had a jam.
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U nfortunately, it was really
not well-balanced.
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Your shoulder is way back here,
so the bulk of the weight was forward.
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So I used to be fairly strong.
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But it taxed you like a mother
to really hold it that long.
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But you couldn't get the shots
with the tripods.
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It was absolutely impossible.
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It has a footage counter here
that never seemed to work,
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never seemed to be dependable.
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But this idea that you could very quickly
take on and off the mag.
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And then you see down here
at the bottom ,
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this is where either an AC motor
or a DC motor attach.
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So it's a beautiful modular unit.
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I mean , you can even say today,
this is a great, great beautiful design.
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Everybody had to use Eclair cameras
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so that we had absolutely
interchangeable equipment.
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Everybody had to have 110-volt motors.
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And where do you find , like,
a dozen 110-volt motors
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in New York City for Éclairs?
And you don't. It's almost impossible.
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We needed 50 different magazines
so that we could change film ,
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raw stock, under the stage.
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The reason for the electric motor was,
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all the cameras had to run in sync
or else it would never be editable.
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We even looked for, I remember
one of the last things on my list
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was to try and find an electronic clock,
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you know, that spinned it over by seconds.
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It would be big. And we could ask
every camera guy on stage to,
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at the top of his roll , at least,
take a shot of that,
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so that we'd have
some common syncing point.
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We could not find anything
that we could use.
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So eventually, the whole post production
became a mess of trying to sync it.
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Well , then , of course,
we had a lot of equipment problems.
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Especially when the rain came along .
I remember this.
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The camera, when you put this up
on your shoulder,
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the motor hits you right in the shoulder.
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And we had to wrap towels
around the motor
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because it got so bloody hot.
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At one point the AC
that was being supplied
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was nearly twice the voltage,
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so we thought, "Well , it's gonna
melt the damn coils,
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"and the cameras will go entirely."
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-But I remember real pain .
-Yeah. And shock.
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And agony and shocks, of course.
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You know, just from the cameras.
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Here it is Tuesday, now.
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The music is gonna start on Friday.
There is one missing ingredient.
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The raw stock.
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Michael is on the phone, it's Wednesday,
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and he's saying ,
"Where the hell is the raw stock?"
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And I said I called Kodak on Monday.
We're buying it. Where was the money?
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He had not been paid yet
for 30 Days to Survival.
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That was the only source of the funds.
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Got the * 15, 000, put it in the bank.
We now had * 17, 000, right?
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Just almost enough to buy the raw stock
at the time.
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So I called him on Monday saying
we were going to place a large order
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of 721 , 722 and 7255.
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And I didn't know exactly
what the quantity was.
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I said , "Do you have it all in stock?"
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"Yes, don't worry, don't worry,
don't worry. We've got it all in stock.
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"Come Wednesday morning ."
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Now I've got the money in the bank.
I can actually write a check.
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And I called them and I said
I want umpteen rolls of this and that
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and the other.
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And like ten minutes later
they call me back and they say,
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"All we have are two boxes worth ."
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We need 25 boxes in order to...
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We calculated ,
if we've got five cameras shooting
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and they're shooting
for twelve hours a day,
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we are going to need a hell of a lot
of raw stock.
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But I had only access to two boxes
in New York.
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When you see those helicopters
in the movie coming in with
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Arlo Guthrie and the performers,
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they're carrying our raw stock
all they way through on a staggered basis
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until Saturday noon.
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They were shooting it so fast,
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and the helicopters were coming in
and everything.
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I mean , it was all we could do
to get it to the assistants
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who were under the stage in the mud.
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It was unreal.
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We asked Michael Lang
and John Roberts to build a lip
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on the front of the stage.
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So that Michael and the other guys
could , with his right hand ,
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put an elbow on the stage,
stand on the ang plywood
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and have an absolutely ideal ,
perfect angle for this,
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and then leap on stage if it was necessary.
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And the tripod conveyed
none of the energy.
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The tripod fixed you in a position.
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The ability for Michael
and the other guys to get up on stage.
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I mean , the one.. .
When you see it in the director's cut,
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the one sequence with Bob H ite
of Canned Heat
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is one entire magazine,
uncut with the 5. 9 lens.
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It is just so gorgeous
and such an exemplary manifestation
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of not only Michael's eye and his agility,
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but the camera's ability to register...
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I mean, when the guy comes up
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and reaches into
Bob ite package of cigarettes
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and takes a cigarette out
and puts it back in,
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I mean , you know you're right there
all the time.
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-I mean , it was marvelous.
-Yeah.
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For film making , the uncut shots
are really just fabulous, I think,
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because it conveys a sense
of linear reality.
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And then what Dale is saying ,
with the wide-angle lens
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which increases the impression
of how close you are to someone
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and what you can see around you ,
it's really like being there on the stage.
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And , of course, now, the cameramen
don't really get that kind of intimacy often
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or they have to wear black
and stay out of the shots.
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So, of course, many times
you see all of us in the frame.
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But that's the spirit of the event.
What's the difference?
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Yeah!
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Ladies and gentlemen, Canned Heat!
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MICHAE ANG The lineup was the lineup.
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I think it was pretty much as it happened,
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except it happened on steroids.
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We wanted everybody we loved , and
everybody that we found along the way
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that we thought everybody else
would love.
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JOCKO MARCEI NO As we were making
a little buzz, Hendrix came down to see us.
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John Bonham came down to see us
and Frank Zappa came down to see us.
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Kornfeld and ang were hanging out,
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and they said, "We're doing Woodstock."
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And I had been hearing about this.
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I knew the lineup was getting big.
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Sly was going to be on it.
Hendrix was going to be on it.
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And I said to the manager,
"Yes, go find that guy and tell him yes."
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MICHAE CARABEO I think
we had played a few colleges
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and stuff like that. Outdoor things.
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And there was this thing going on
in Woodstock.
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No big deal to us. It was way too far
from San Francisco anyway.
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Somebody had called .
It might've been Michael Lang ,
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who was producing the Woodstock thing.
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Says, "Hey, we need a favor.
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"We need you to get somebody else
on the bill."
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And in fact, we weren't actually
going to do Woodstock.
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We were in the middle of a tour,
and the agent said ,
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"They're doing this festival ,
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"they're anticipating
probably 50, 000 people.
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"Would you like to do it?"
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And when we heard
what they were offering ,
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we turned it down.
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But Frank Barcelona, our agent,
kept on at us,
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'cause he said, "You've got to do it,
'cause they've added Janis,
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"they've added J imi ,
they've added The Who,
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"they've added Airplane."
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So, in the end , we did it.
Thank God we did.
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ANG We wanted to make sure that
nobody was excluded from this event.
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It was planned to be
an Aquarian exposition
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and all that that sort of entails
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which includes sort of
a new wave dealing with people,
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sort of a new openness.
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What is it
the musicians have
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that they can communicate
so well to the kids?
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Music!
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I mean ,
they've always had music.
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Music has always been
a major form of communication ,
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only now, the lyric and the type of music
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is a little bit more involved in society
than it was.
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Probably someone I wanted more
than anyone was Roy Rogers.
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I wanted him to close the show
with Happy Trails,
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'cause we all grew up with Roy Rogers
singing Happy Trails to us at night,
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or Saturday mornings, as it were.
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But his manager didn't think
it was a great idea.
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It's about what's happening now,
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and if you listen to the lyric
and you listen to the rhythm
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and what's in the music,
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then you'll know what's going on
with the culture.
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I gotta split on you.
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Great, groovy. Thanks.
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There was an incident
where I was looking over an invoice
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that I had received from Technicolor,
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who was processing all of the opticals
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that were coming
out of the optical houses.
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And I noticed this invoice,
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and it said that they were
making two prints of the negative.
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I called Technicolor with a really dumb,
naive question.
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I said , "Where does the second print go?"
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"We always send the second print
to New York to Warner Bros.
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"To have them get a look at
what we're producing ."
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You know, what we're printing
for their client.
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I said , "Great. Okay, great."
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Next call , "Bob, we got a problem ."
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We got on the phone with our attorney
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and we physically, at that point,
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shut down our editing
for all intents and purposes.
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We brought all of the negative
into our offices
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and hired a 2-hour security guard
with a gun.
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And Bob flew to New York
to negotiate with these people.
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Once we got it resolved
that Technicolor had absolutely no right,
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since we were the client of record ,
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to make another copy
or to get it anywhere else,
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everything smoothed out again ,
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and the negative went back
to Ed Richards.
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Ed Richards, the negative manager.
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And we continued to put new material
into the optical houses
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to get it processed.
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We were that rigid.
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We were that determined
to maintain the integrity of this film.
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Can those of you
in the back hear well?
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Raise your hand, please. It's all right?
Thank you.
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There were some pretty
interesting announcements.
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There were lots of "Meet your sister,"
and "Meet your brother," or
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"Get to the hospital ,
you're having a baby."
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Those kinds of things.
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CHIP MONCK ON PA Helen Savage,
please call your father
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at the Motel Glory in Wood-Ridge.
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By the time, I was appointed MC
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at 7: 00 in the morning by the tap
on the shoulder by Mr. Lang ,
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I had a feeling that it was going
to be mammoth.
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The Daily News, in rather large headlines,
still costing 10 cents,
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"Traffic Uptight At Hippiefest."
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Well , he was there. He was articulate.
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And I had forgotten to book anybody, so...
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You could actually hear my knees
rattling together.
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When I first started
on my announcements,
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it was a very uncomfortable feeling.
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It got smoother and got easier
because I was frankly in charge,
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and why should I be frightened?
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Because I could do anything I needed to.
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Wheat Germ,
Holly has your bag with your medicine.
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Please meet at the information booth
as soon as you can, please.
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I think one of the doctors
came up and said ,
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"If you can , let's see if we can get rid
of this brown acid ."
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And for his hand to be on my back
and just push me downstage,
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which meant it was time to do it now.
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The warning that I've received,
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you may take it with however many
grains of salt you wish,
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that the brown acid that is circulating
around us is not specifically too good.
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That was a very difficult announcement
to make,
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because if you really stomped on it,
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anybody who had taken it could , in fact,
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really end up having
a very unpleasant trip.
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Which acid did I take?
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The green or the brown ?
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And that took you to another place
'cause you were tripping.
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So you immediately spiral downward
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just from the announcements.
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I really didn't know
how to do it.
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That's why there were so many little
colloquialisms and stuff stuffed in there,
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"grain of salt," "be my guest,"
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because I really wanted to try
and soften it.
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MONCK It's suggested
that you do stay away from that.
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Of course, it's your own trip,
so be my guest,
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but please be advised
that there is a warning on that one, okay?
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I think you save the harsh ones
for the time you need it.
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So it's probably a good idea to be,
certainly not soft and cuddly,
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but at least courteous, you know.
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Because some people, I suppose,
could be easily offended
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by a type of language or an approach.
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So you have to be sort of careful in that.
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I started to actually tune
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and refine a skill
that I had no idea that I had.
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MONCK Dr. Jack UGHING*, please,
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with full suturing equipment,
your presence is requested.
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You've got a delivery to make.
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Both Chip and John Morris
also did some announcing ,
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and they both did an amazing job.
I mean , it was just...
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It was totally, you know,
surprising to me.
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I had no idea they would be that good ,
either one of them.
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But it's just one of those things,
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like a lot of things about Woodstock,
that worked out perfectly.
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Warner Bros. had said
they're going to open this film
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in eight cities at the end of March ,
March 2 and 25,
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and they needed to be able to see it.
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We were still mixing the film
on March 10, 11 and 12, mind you.
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And they said , "We've got to see it,
we've got to see it.
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"The exhibitors have got to see it.
We've got to know how long it is."
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We had known all along
that the standard length for a movie
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is an hour and 50 minutes, 1 -5-0.
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And here we were,
virtually double that length.
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What he wanted was almost
a four-and-a-half, five hour film.
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And , in fact, his first cut
was about seven hours or six hours.
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They said , "We want a screening.
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"Five of us, suits, will sit in the backroom
of the projection booth
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"over here on the Warner Bros. lot,
and we'll take a look at your film ."
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And we said, "We'll call you back."
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We all looked at each other
and said ,
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"Five suits looking at this film?
They'll never get it."
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The editors at that time were concerned
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about "the studio."
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Because the studio was doing ,
you know, big films,
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we'd been in the business for years,
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but they didn't have the "vision"
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that the young hippies of those days had.
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And we argued back and forth,
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and finally we said that we had invited
several hundred students
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from UC* and USC, other film houses,
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to come watch the film
with the Warner Bros. suits.
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And we then invited them
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and showed them the whole film
at four hours in length.
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They had to hop over people
who were lying on the floor,
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opening weeds in the back,
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and from the first moment,
it was rip-roaring, rocking.
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The projectionists were absolutely perfect,
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the suits were totally,
totally overwhelmed.
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After the screening,
we were more confident than ever
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that we had a hit on our hands.
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We had a meeting the next day
in which Warner Bros. said , "It's too long ."
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I just, you know, couldn't believe it.
You know, Dale had to hold me down.
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So the next morning we had a meeting.
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And there were certain things
that they said
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that we had kind of thought
among ourselves were going to be okay,
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that we would have to drop some stuff,
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'cause we'd had our own meeting
after the screening ,
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and we'd felt even in putting them
into the film
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that maybe
they weren't really working properly.
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But where it came to be the most critical
was at the end.
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Warner's wanted
the J imi Hendrix sequence
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cut down to three minutes
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because they thought it was so sour,
so dark.
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They wanted people going out
of the movie cheering , everything else.
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And they thought
that this whole rendering
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of J imi's Star-Spangled Banner,
plus the Purple Haze that we had in there,
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and all that garbage picking up
and the whatever.
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How could you end the movie with that?
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WADEIGH I personally edited
that last section
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and felt very strongly that we should end
on a disturbing note.
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You know, that
this looks like post-holocaust,
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and you notice I put in the people
with the crutches
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and the casts on their arms
and all the detritus.
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It was meant to look like,
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wow, you know, will all this good time
end very, very badly?
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And that's exactly what I wanted people
to think about.
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With this brilliant guitar playing ,
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it was really the perfect ending ,
aesthetically, as a filmmaker, for the film.
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So I was ready to, you know,
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absolutely go to the mat over that issue.
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Of course, Michael and I butted heads
in a lot of ways,
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but it was always creative.
He was really the creative maven.
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And I was the guy from the studio.
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There were really vicious remarks
that were thrown back and forth.
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We spent the rest of the day
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ensuring that we had possession
of the elements that would prevent them
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from making a separate cut,
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coming up with a two-hour version
that the exhibitors wanted,
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because they were saying
the exhibitors wanna turn this film around.
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They wanna sell more popcorn.
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WADEIGH If they had not agreed with us,
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we were prepared
to at least threaten going berserk
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and destroying everything
if they didn't put out our version.
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BE But what we finally arrived at,
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we would cut down
the J imi Hendrix piece,
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which I think was running
at about 15 or 16 minutes,
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down to a version
that we felt comfortable with ,
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which we had to kind of determine
would be nine or 10 minutes.
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It was a compromise,
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but only as to a certain amount of length
with it,
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which , by the way, now's been put all back
into the director's cut.
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But by and large, we ended up,
I would say,
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with basically what we wanted.
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It took a while to get there.
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But just two or three weeks beforehand ,
we were still screaming and yelling.
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But Michael was brilliant.
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I mean , you very seldom get a director
who had the vision that he had ,
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who's able to shoot the film
the way he told the people to shoot it.
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And he was very instrumental in all that.
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And as a filmmaker, I thought,
"Wow. There's nothing I wanna change."
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I didn't have any second thought,
which is really, really nice.
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The summer of 1969,
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New York City was abuzz
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with this whole idea
that there was going to be, somewhere,
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at a place yet to be determined,
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a huge colossal music festival
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called Woodstock Music and Art Fair.
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In July of 1969,
Michael Wadleigh knew very little about it,
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because he was shooting a film
with Paul Petzoldt
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called 30 Days to Survival,
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in which Michael survived
and lost 20 pounds.
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-True?
-Yeah , it was my head ...
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-Right.
-.. .that was lost.
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Took a long time to re-find it.
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BE As he came back at the end of July,
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there was this whole pulsating
in New York among the film community
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about this festival.
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And there was talk
that the festival producers
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were looking for filmmakers
to be able to shoot this festival.
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We heard this,
and Bob began to sniff around
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as to where were the rights to the festival.
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At that time, I had just come in
with the new Warner Bros. people.
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It was Steve Ross and Ted Ashley
had just taken over,
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and they had brought me in
to do the youth market.
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Ahmet Ertegun at Atlantic Records
really had the music rights
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and the film rights,
all in a package for * 100, 000.
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But there was no deal with anybody,
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not with the producers,
not with any of the performers,
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certainly not with Ahmet Ertegun
at Atlantic Records, nobody.
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It was really
because of the persuasive efforts
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of Artie Kornfeld,
who I had known in the Village.
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And he, with this great enthusiasm ,
convinced me, and we went from there.
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After they turned me down cold ,
I went back and said , "I'm leaving ."
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They said , "Okay, Fred , it's only *350, 000.
Don't worry about it."
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The Saturday before the Friday
when the music began ,
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Michael and I , and John Binder,
and Larry Johnson , and Thelma,
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we all went up to the site
in about three cars,
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and we got to Max Yasgur's farm
at about noon.
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And there were so much turmoil,
but organized chaos going on at the site.
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And that was the moment at which
we all looked at each other
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and said , "We can figure out
how to get the people together,
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"get the camera people together,
get the gear together,
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"get the supplies together,
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"and get up to that site
by Thursday morning
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"before the music began on Friday.
We can do this."
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JACK CASADY In the beginning,
access roads became so congested
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that by the time we actually went in
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for what was supposed to be
a sound check or whatnot,
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once you got in , you didn't leave.
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It reminded me of a Cecil B. DeMille
production movie,
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of all the extras portraying
the grandest army you ever saw.
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We were standing on the curbs
watching them come in last night,
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all the townspeople.
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It was just like an army invading a town.
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- Really?
-It was hard to believe.
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Rows and rows of cars on each side
of the dirt access road
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didn't leave quite enough room
for one vehicle.
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I was driving. I took the trim
off both sides of the station wagon.
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We went through about 200 cars
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with the sides of the station wagon
scraping the whole way, you know.
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And it was.. .
Sorry, folks, whoever owned those cars.
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Well, we drove up to
what was then the Holiday Inn in iberty.
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And in the lobby there
and in the coffee shop,
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everybody was there.
And , I mean , I knew most of the people,
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Hendrix and Janis Joplin ...
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And so I got a bit of an idea
what it was like.
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Everybody
was outside standing,
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going , "What the hell is going on?"
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And all of a sudden ,
we see the National Guard ,
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and , "Is there a war going on?
What's going on?"
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The only way to get in there
is by helicopter.
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ANG We booked helicopters
before the weekend for emergencies.
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As the traffic
became more and more dense,
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we realized that we were gonna have
a problem getting performers in ,
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and so we booked more helicopters
and we just kept doing that hourly,
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adding helicopters.
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We apologize
for the noise of the choppity-choppity,
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but it seems there are a few cars
blocking the road,
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so we're flying everybody in.
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The helicopter arrived,
and we were about to get on it,
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and these guys pushed in front of us.
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And I was gonna argue the toss with them ,
as I have a habit of doing.
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And it turned out it was Crosby, Stills,
Nash & Young and Albert Grossman
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going to do a recce of the site.
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So we waited for the next helicopter.
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So we took a helicopter
down to the gig ,
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maybe three hours before
we were due to play.
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We could see that it was
like some sort of war zone, really.
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And it was about a 10-minute flight
from there to the Woodstock actual site.
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I got to be in a helicopter
with Jerry Garcia and Michael Shrieve.
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Got up and got high in the sky
and looked down
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and saw all these people
and just couldn't believe it,
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with the door open , mind you .
And Jerry just thought it was...
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"Can you believe it?
ook at all those people down there."
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It was just overwhelming,
way, way overwhelming.
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We had really first-rate,
you could call them cameramen-directors,
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who were very used to going out,
taking an assignment
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and bringing back the footage.
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We'd have about four,
call them "documentary teams,"
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that would be wandering around ,
either on motorcycles or on foot,
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going out into the non-music portions
to try to get representative samples
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of what sociological and psychological ,
and indeed , physical activities
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were going on all around the stage.
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We would send out people
and have no idea where they were.
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They would send back.
We'd hear a request for film ,
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you know, or a battery,
they were out of a battery.
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We would try to communicate
on a semi-regular basis.
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First thing in the morning ,
we would try to talk,
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the documentary team would talk,
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I know I would with them
and John Binder.
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And we would try and find out,
"What did you get?
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"What have we heard is going to happen?
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"It would be really good if you could
get up to X by noon.
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"Try and get back,
send somebody back to us by noon ,
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"so we know what you've done.
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"Because we may have something new
for you to do in the afternoon ."
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(MAN P*YI NG TU N E ON **OO
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Please walk on the grass.
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Please walk on the grass.
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Hold it.
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Walk on the sides of the road
if you're gonna walk through here.
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And one of my jobs
was to try and get Chip Monck,
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who was lighting the show for the festival ,
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to please give us some more light at times
when there were groups
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that Wadleigh would scream to me,
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he would be bent over that Éclair camera,
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"Get me some light, get me some light!
I can't see them ."
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I would go over to Chip and say,
"Could we have a little more light?"
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And he would say,
"I'm lighting for those people out there!
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"I'm not lighting for your movie!"
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The lighting is not
taking into consideration the camera.
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It's lighting for a show,
and that became a problem.
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That became a serious problem
for the cameramen , Michael and everyone.
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She was trying to get Chip
to give us more light,
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and he was trying to make a show.
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We kept asking the groups
for their playlists.
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And generally, they would give them to us,
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"Here's the order and songs."
So we'd say, "Oh , great!
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"Well , these are the songs we wanna do."
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And then , we wouldn't start,
and here would come a song
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that we would want to do
that was number five,
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and they were opening with it.
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And this happened time and again ,
so we'd all scramble, you know.
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So after that, we sort of set a rule that
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we would start shooting
just the first few seconds,
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and then I would either wave them off
and say, "No, no, no, we're not gonna go,"
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or we would continue.
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We couldn't afford just to film all the time.
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It was simply impossible
because the groups never would go off.
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Once they came on ,
they didn't want to leave.
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Who had ever played
before such a gigantic audience?
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So they just kept going and going,
and going and going.
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Thelma and I and others had talked about
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how we would do these
elaborate multiple image shoots
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and how they'd be coordinated and ...
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-Wow!
-With headsets.
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-With headsets. Right.
-With headsets,
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and we would say,
I had this idea that I'd say,
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"I'm on wide, go tight, go tight,
you know, now pan. Everybody, pan ."
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And the headsets failed.
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Or there'd be just horrible feedback
that would just blow your ears out.
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Or no one could hear you ,
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because, of course,
these groups were incredibly loud.
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We had all these fantastic plans about
how coordinated we would be,
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as if we were like a TV shoot.
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Again , it was more analogous
to thinking about being
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in Beirut or something ,
you know, with the bombs going off
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and , "Pan left, pan.. ." "What?"
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Everybody was really in a separate silo,
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that phrase that we use today,
but that's exactly where everybody was.
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But they were at least positioned ,
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and they all had tremendous instinct.
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Remember,
guys and gals out there,
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we've got two different physical objects,
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one, a soundtrack, and one, film.
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00:41:28,682 --> 00:41:31,687
Nothing connects them at all .
We're free-floating.
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00:41:31,728 --> 00:41:34,525
So you've got to get them together,
because you don't wanna put
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Santana's music with Hendrix's image.
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00:41:37,571 --> 00:41:39,741
We hired
a large group of people
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just to sync the dailies for months, by eye.
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00:41:44,165 --> 00:41:48,089
We weren't able to get slates,
we had "beep lights,"
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00:41:48,131 --> 00:41:50,885
but again , things weren't working and ...
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It was a nightmare.
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00:41:53,264 --> 00:41:58,565
Since there were no slates,
no technical slates and no visual slates,
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00:41:58,606 --> 00:42:04,825
we would rent a single-headed Moviola,
and a soundtrack player.
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It did put us in a manic state
at a certain point.
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We'd be so excited , we'd be running out,
"We got it in sync! "
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We'd come back in , it was out again.
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This is what was going on 2 hours a day
with a team of about 0 people
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00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:19,975
in a space that was 2,00 square feet,
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00:42:20,059 --> 00:42:22,730
where each editing table
was literally touching
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00:42:22,813 --> 00:42:24,567
another editing table.
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00:42:24,650 --> 00:42:27,989
Once we got sync on all of...
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We only fed them every other day,
because of...
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-They didn't get too big .
-I mean , it was unreal.
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It was totally unreal.
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You'd get a phone call at 200
in the morning
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saying, "Where's the reel
on Creedence Clearwater?" or whatever.
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00:42:40,969 --> 00:42:43,974
But systematic labeling,
the systematic logging,
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00:42:44,016 --> 00:42:45,977
all of that were absolutely paramount.
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00:42:46,144 --> 00:42:50,819
No computers, no Excel sheets,
it all had to be done by hand.
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The festival was August 15, 16, 17.
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The syncing was not completed until
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towards the end of September,
early October.
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We kind of knew
that if you bring Hendrix,
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00:43:13,546 --> 00:43:17,591
if you bring Janis Joplin,
if you bring The Who,
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00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:21,137
the entire axis of the planet
is going to tilt.
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00:43:21,179 --> 00:43:23,139
Everyone's gonna try and get there.
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00:43:23,223 --> 00:43:28,020
This idea of Woodstock
happening because it was a free show,
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I think, is a little inaccurate.
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00:43:29,982 --> 00:43:33,277
I think most people were coming
looking for places to buy tickets.
8
00:43:33,318 --> 00:43:35,989
They couldn't buy tickets
'cause they weren't available an*here.
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00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:37,949
We never got the ticket booths in place.
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00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:43,330
This is one thing that I was
gonna wait a while before we talked about,
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00:43:43,372 --> 00:43:46,376
but maybe we'll talk about it now
so you can think about it.
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It's a free concert from now on.
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At one point, somebody
told me, "Marty, come here, take a look."
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00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:56,430
So I went up,
and I went to the lip of the stage,
15
00:43:56,513 --> 00:44:00,518
and I saw this massive
sort of impressionist painting.
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00:44:00,601 --> 00:44:03,563
I'm a paranoid New Yorker.
There were times I got nervous,
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00:44:03,646 --> 00:44:05,733
"What if something goes wrong?"
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(*UG HS
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Yeah , but the interesting thing
about Woodstock
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is that it didn't, you see?
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That was the beauty of it, I think.
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What we have in mind
is breakfast in bed for 400, 000.
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JOHNNY WINTER Started to say
wall-to-wall people,
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but there weren't any walls.
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It was just eve*here,
as far as you could see,
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-just people.
-Yeah.
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WINTER People, mud and rain.
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The overall thing
which was so big about it is
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you had so many people there
of all races and colors,
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and there was no fights,
and everybody got along ,
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00:44:40,231 --> 00:44:41,900
and it got organized somehow.
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There have been
many events
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00:44:43,694 --> 00:44:46,572
that have gathered many people,
you know, in the last 0 years,
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but realistically,
they weren't all in the same headspace.
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It was about our generation
getting together and showing them
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00:44:52,997 --> 00:44:55,583
that we didn't have to go to war,
we didn't have to have jobs,
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we were gonna play music
and turn the world around.
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00:45:06,952 --> 00:45:10,457
No rain! No rain! No rain!
2
00:45:11,167 --> 00:45:13,336
Joe Cooker arrived .
Joe went on and played ,
3
00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:16,758
and I think we were gonna go on after him ,
and then , that's when the rain started.
4
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,471
All right, everybody,
just sit down, wrap yourself up.
5
00:45:20,554 --> 00:45:22,724
We're gonna have to ride it out.
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00:45:24,477 --> 00:45:26,312
Hold on to your neighbor, man.
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00:45:26,396 --> 00:45:28,523
No rain! No rain! No rain!
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-No rain ! No rain ! No rain ! No rain !
-No rain ! No rain ! No rain ! No rain!
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The next thing I know it was
pouring down with rain ,
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I mean , it's turned into a torrential rain.
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I remember 'cause I was freezing cold.
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I had just a tank top on , you know,
with no sleeves.
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And it was very, very cold at first.
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And they brought in great, big
cardboard boxes of scraps of material.
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It was like being on a refugee...
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I imagine what a refugee camp was like,
you know.
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CHURCH I To me, it was a mini-tornado.
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-It was, yeah .
-Yeah , they didn't say it was,
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but that was my introduction to
tornadoes, of which I've been in two more.
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They had a VIP area
at the side of the stage
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where people could watch,
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groupies and press and whatever you like
could watch the band,
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they had to close that down
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to take the strain off the stage,
because it was slipping down the hill.
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And there is a clip in the movie
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of this young kid running down
towards the camera, and he says,
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"This is the American government!
They're doing this!
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"They've been spraying the clouds, man."
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I've got something to say.
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I want to know how come the fascist pigs
have been seeding the clouds?
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Right, for the last hour and a half.
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'Cause I've seen the airplanes
going over twice
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with all the smoke coming out of them ,
seeding the clouds,
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and I want to know, you know,
why that stuff is going down , man ,
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and why doesn't the media
report that stuff to the people, man?
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And with current events,
you really have to wonder
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if that, maybe, was the case.
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'Cause I know the FBI and the CIA
were very, very nervous...
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-It's getting to conspiracy theories.
-.. .of all that many people, you know.
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Technically, it was a horror, you know,
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because it stopped
many things from working.
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The wiring was flooded.
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I remember, when we went on stage,
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in between the wires, it was like water.
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You can squeeze
those two conductors together
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and get a monstrous zap.
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It goes through your mind , "Well ,
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"this could be our best
and last show here."
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There were just people every place,
I mean , it just...
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Started to say wall-to-wall people,
but there weren't any walls.
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It was just everywhere,
as far as you could see,
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-just people.
Yeah.
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People, mud and rain.
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GRACE SLICK Some of them
were even playing in it.
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And I thought,
"Well, thank God you're young."
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Take off your clothes and play in the mud.
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HUGH HEFNER: I was glad I wasn't there,
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but I don't think I would've
enjoyed all the mud.
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I'm very glad it happened , in hindsight,
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because it was a wonderful settling event,
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because you could look around
and everybody looked the same.
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Drowned rats.
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That's really what was amazing
about the whole thing ,
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is that the conditions weren't good at all ,
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but nobody seemed to care, you know.
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KRAMER When I think back
on Woodstock, I just think,
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"I'm gonna shut myself up in
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"this little eight by eight
portion of this tractor trailer,
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"and whatever happens,
just try to get this stuff
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"on tape as best as I can ."
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He couldn't see anything.
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All he could do was to listen and guess,
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"I hear something through that mike,
it must be here."
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KRAMER As far as the gear
was concerned,
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literally, it was a 12-channel console
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with a couple of Shure mixers stacked
on top of it,
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and one of the eight-track machines
was in an orange crate.
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It was hung together with wire and string
and chewing gum.
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And we were in the back corner
of a tractor trailer,
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literally, maybe eight foot by eight foot,
if that.
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And that's where I was stuck
for the whole three days.
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He did not have 2 tracks
that we have today, or 32 or 68.
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He had eight tracks,
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one of which was devoted , thankfully,
to our sync signal.
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So, essentially, I'm dealing with
seven channels of audio,
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which includes the audience
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and horns and vocals
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and drums and bass and guitars
and everything else, so...
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After the first number, the first act,
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all communication was just in the toilet,
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because who knew
what was going on after that?
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So we had to utilize
the first song of each set
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as the sort of trial by fire
and trial by error.
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It was complete chaos,
but we did it.
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I mean , you know, that was the challenge.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
the Sha Na Na! Harold, turn up the mike.
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If we hadn't been at Woodstock,
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I don't think Sha Na Na would've had
any of the success it's had.
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They were, I think, completely shocked
when I booked them.
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I think that they didn't really
take it seriously.
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I saw them at The Scene,
Steve Paul's club,
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and I thought, "You know,
what a great light moment this would be ! "
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And you know, kind of a nod to
the rock and roll roots that we all had ,
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so I thought it would be fun for everybody.
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I mean , you can't get too heavy
all the time, so...
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Well , I have to say that
the whole Sha Na Na career,
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celebrating our 40th,
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may not have ever happened.
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So we owe a ton to it, I think,
more than any other act that was there.
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I've seen the world ,
and I've become very comfortable
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and thankful that I had this career,
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and it wouldn't have happened
without Woodstock.
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And there was only one Woodstock.
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And it did change my life
in that sense that
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the music also fixed me a certain way,
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seeing it performed that way,
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being right there with that music,
hearing the sound go through you.
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I'd always wanted to play music.
I love music.
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And so it was a major factor
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in all my other work and my films
and everything else.
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That was an extraordinary cathartic
situation with that music.
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A very, very powerful ,
powerful feeling.
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Steve Ross and TedAshley
had just taken over Warner Bros.
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And they had decided
almost in a funny kind of way
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that with all the movies that they saw
that they had when they took over,
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that maybe they were gonna
sell the studio.
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And Woodstock basically
saved the studio,
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and became the fact
that they made movies
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'cause of what happened
to the Woodstock film.
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Well , several writers wrote
that Woodstock saved the studio.
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At the time, several , Variety and others,
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said that this strange hippie piece
and that...
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And by the way, I will say,
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one good thing was that
once it became a hit,
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I had a wonderful experience
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traveling around the world with the film ,
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able to speak about its politics
and cultural significance.
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I didn't think any of the musicians there
expected it to be anything.
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And they just went along to play.
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And stoned as some of them were
on one thing or another,
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there was no ulterior motive.
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And the audience turned up,
not expecting anything.
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So the whole thing
was a spontaneous thing ,
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and the energy was there,
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and when you organize something ,
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that thing can never be captured ,
never ever.
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That's the difference.
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And I think
that's why people find it fascinating.
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LANG: It's been very gratifying, you know.
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I'm delighted to have been affiliated with it.
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It obviously took the energies
of lots of people,
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and I'm certainly
eternally grateful to all of them.
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It was a very special time,
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and I was thrilled to be
a part of making it happen
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and thrilled to be a part of it happening.
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So, it's always been gratifying.
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I mean , I've spoken to lots of people
over the years,
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and I can't tell you
how many times people tell me
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that it changed their lives
in a very positive way.
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So it's very gratifying.
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It's a great, great festival.
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One of the best there's ever been.
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I think it is the most important
rock and roll show in history.
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It is the symbolism of Woodstock
that is so much alive today
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that can be carried forward
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and it can be replicated ,
duplicated , implemented
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by every individual, whether they went,
whether they saw it,
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whether they raise their hand
saying they were there and they weren't.
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Those people who are encased
in the spirit, infused with the spirit
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and the essence
of what Woodstock represented.
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I mean , it did have an impact.
It had an impact.
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And I think maybe it was because
that many people gathered together.
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They were all kind of
the hippie culture, if you like.
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And there wasn't that much trouble.
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We think the people of this country
should be proud of these kids.
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Notwithstanding the way they dress
or the way they wear their hair,
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that's their own personal business.
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But their inner workings,
their inner selves,
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their self-demeanor cannot be questioned.
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I thought, "My God , we were just.. ."
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Everyone was so sweet and nice,
and what was so threatening about that?
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But you know,
people were smoking pot on camera,
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and there were people who were
undressed in the middle of a meadow
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and bathing nude in a lake.
But, come on, I mean, really.
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Everyone was just
having a wonderful time.
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Woodstock was unique.
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It was a unique place, time,
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coming together of
all of these various artists.
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The fact that economically, socially,
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it was a very, very traumatic time.
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And look at all these people.
Half a million kids,
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adults, children coming together
in one place at one time,
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becoming a huge city
virtually overnight. Peaceful.
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The Summer of Love and Woodstock
were the beginning
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of a decade of celebration
that was almost Eden-like.
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And then we were
kicked out of the garden.
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Over the years,
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there's a real sour grapes attitude
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towards Woodstock, towards the time,
towards the sensibility.
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It's easy to make fun of
because it was kind of the last time when
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a group so large, a demographic so large
could be so sincere
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and uncynical about
what they were doing.
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The legacy of Woodstock is
the legacy of possibilities.
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What Woodstock proved
is that human beings
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are capable of so much more
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than they ever, ever
reach into themselves and do.
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I just think in any of these anniversaries,
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and I think as you get further away,
now at 40,
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and you look back at it,
it just shows the importance of it.
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It's still important.
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I think that they will get a glimpse
of a time that was very hopeful,
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in a world that was very much like
the one we're living in today,
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you know, unpopular war,
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and the Earth being wounded
as it is today.
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All the things that the '60s
sort of brought to the fore
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seem to be coming back to haunt us now,
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'cause we didn't listen then.
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Yes, it did have a huge impact
on the world , I think.
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And I think the movie gives an example,
a taste of what it was like in that era.
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I think
the legacy of Woodstock
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was that it was a peaceful event.
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That we showed , even though
we were revolutionary and stuff,
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that we showed that you didn't need guns
and you didn't need power.
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And all we needed was music
and to dance and to love one another.
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Of course,
it's changed nothing.
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We've still got world wars going on
and poverty and one thing and another.
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But we thought we could
change the world , yeah.
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We hoped we could.
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And I think, to a certain extent,
we gave a lot of people hope.
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We had shot eve*hing
with 16mm,
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but we knew we wanted to go
to the 70mm format,
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because we had experienced 70mm sound,
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where you had four channels
behind the screen
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and two in the rear.
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So we wanted to take advantage of that.
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Well , we worked out with Eastman
and other people
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how we could go from 16 mm ,
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blow up to 70
in the most efficient way possible,
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which was a miracle in itself
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Imagine! 16mm is just tiny.
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And here, we were going
for a 70mm release.
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The KEMs enabled us to do that,
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because, how do you mark
where you want an image to go?
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Et's say you don't even want a full frame
of one of your 16mm images,
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let's say the left frame.
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But you want to select a portion of that.
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Well, we simply figured out an XY grid.
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For vertical numbers,
we had one through 20, or whatever,
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one through 80.
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And then, horizontal numbers.
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And then, you would simply write,
it was a description,
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from this point, this sized image.
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We then wanted to blow it up
to the 70mm
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in that quadrant of the 70.
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01:00:30,292 --> 01:00:32,916
And of course, it was not that precise.
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So we would give it to the optical people,
they'd give it a try
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and then we'd do readjustments
from there.
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The technicians at the time,
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these old guys who were now our age,
right?
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Seventy years old and so on ,
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01:00:47,542 --> 01:00:50,792
who had been around the movie industry
all their lives.
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01:00:50,875 --> 01:00:53,958
They just loved it,
and they were so helpful to us.
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01:00:54,041 --> 01:00:57,375
They loved the challenge
of being able to do,
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01:00:57,458 --> 01:01:01,542
with rock and roll
and these modern young kids,
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01:01:01,583 --> 01:01:04,875
to take this technical challenge
of how to get it to the theater
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so that it looks really cool.
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01:01:06,458 --> 01:01:09,750
But from front to back,
it was all an experimentation.
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No one had done what we had done
with those machines
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01:01:13,875 --> 01:01:15,958
or with the shooting up until that point.
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And of course they then devoted
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a whole issue of
American Cinematographer to us.
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01:01:21,250 --> 01:01:24,000
Many other technical journals
just describing
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01:01:24,083 --> 01:01:27,417
how, technologically,
Woodstock had come about.
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01:01:27,875 --> 01:01:32,292
But then , of course, what all of us
were going for was an aesthetic.
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The technology was a means to producing
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what we felt was going to be
a real involving experience.
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01:01:48,625 --> 01:01:51,917
It broke all sorts of new ground ,
and the critics loved it,
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01:01:52,001 --> 01:01:57,711
and , you know, we were able
to really pioneer multiple image
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01:01:57,752 --> 01:02:02,004
and a new way that rock and roll
and documentaries were shot.
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01:02:02,586 --> 01:02:04,671
We mentioned that, you know,
Roger Ebert said
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01:02:04,754 --> 01:02:06,754
maybe it was
the greatest documentary ever made,
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01:02:06,838 --> 01:02:08,547
and others did as well.
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01:02:08,588 --> 01:02:09,880
I thought it was overwhelming.
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Yeah , I think one of the things that
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01:02:16,048 --> 01:02:19,133
is most fortunate, is that
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01:02:20,466 --> 01:02:22,216
that film exists
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01:02:22,258 --> 01:02:28,301
that captured the real sense
of that remarkable weekend.
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And it's a phenomenal documentary.
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01:02:33,136 --> 01:02:36,428
Pauline Kael was head of
the Critics Association ,
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01:02:36,469 --> 01:02:38,887
so she came in to see the movie,
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01:02:38,928 --> 01:02:41,221
and she was no hippie at all.
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01:02:41,263 --> 01:02:45,930
And we were all like, "Oh , my goodness,
you know, she's a super-critic."
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Well , she loved the thing , I mean ,
just thought it was great film making ,
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01:02:51,265 --> 01:02:55,766
and slow but surely,
a number of people came and gave us...
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01:02:55,808 --> 01:02:59,808
Not that we lacked the confidence,
but I have to admit, I was really nervous,
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01:02:59,891 --> 01:03:02,393
because it's like
having a hit on your hands,
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01:03:02,434 --> 01:03:06,935
and are you gonna blow it, you know,
are you just gonna make it worse?
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01:03:07,060 --> 01:03:08,853
What surprised me was
how well they captured it.
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01:03:09,978 --> 01:03:12,687
That that movie really,
in three and a half hours,
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01:03:12,770 --> 01:03:16,312
gave you a good sense of
what that weekend was like for us.
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01:03:17,938 --> 01:03:21,272
And it wasn't just from sort of
a typical documentary point of view,
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01:03:21,355 --> 01:03:23,480
it really brought you in.
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01:03:23,564 --> 01:03:26,773
I think once it came
and we saw it at the movies,
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01:03:26,857 --> 01:03:30,107
you know, the opening of it,
which we saw in New York,
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01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:31,524
it was very interesting because
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01:03:31,607 --> 01:03:33,734
it was the first time
that they used three cameras.
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It's a damn good documentary, you know.
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It's a good piece of reporting.
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01:03:37,859 --> 01:03:43,444
It's not journalistic, you know, to me,
it doesn't appear to have a view,
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01:03:43,527 --> 01:03:44,944
you know,
from the director's point of view.
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01:03:44,986 --> 01:03:47,194
Many people also talked about
point of view,
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01:03:47,278 --> 01:03:51,612
that it was a revolutionary way
to convey film making ,
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01:03:51,696 --> 01:03:56,405
you know, from the documentary
and from the musical points of view,
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01:03:56,447 --> 01:04:00,114
that it gave you a real sense of,
not only being there,
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01:04:00,156 --> 01:04:02,906
but also making intellectual connections
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01:04:02,948 --> 01:04:06,241
and emotional connections
between material
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01:04:06,283 --> 01:04:08,867
through the use of the multi image.
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01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:11,534
Because like,
why would 300, 000 or 120, 000, 60, 000,
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01:04:11,617 --> 01:04:15,410
70, 000 people come to anything
just because it's music?
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01:04:15,452 --> 01:04:19,994
I mean , was music all that important?
I don't really think so.
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01:04:20,077 --> 01:04:22,786
People don't know.
They don't know how to live,
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01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:23,953
and they don't know what to do,
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01:04:24,037 --> 01:04:26,787
and they think that if they can come here
they can find out,
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01:04:26,829 --> 01:04:30,705
you know, what it is,
or how to maintain with it.
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01:04:30,788 --> 01:04:32,788
It's just like people are very lost, I think.
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01:04:32,955 --> 01:04:35,456
I'd been up to the editing lot
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01:04:35,539 --> 01:04:37,123
when they were in New York
several times
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01:04:37,165 --> 01:04:41,124
and watched
this unbelievable amount of footage,
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01:04:41,166 --> 01:04:43,249
trying to get reduced into
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01:04:44,208 --> 01:04:47,250
what ended up being , I think,
three and a half hours.
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01:04:47,292 --> 01:04:52,626
It was a monumental task,
and they did a brilliant job.
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01:04:52,668 --> 01:04:55,377
Even though we ran out of film ,
you know, a bunch of times,
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01:04:55,461 --> 01:04:58,794
and had to conserve,
not shoot so many acts
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01:04:58,878 --> 01:05:02,920
or at least the totality
of some of the acts they should've shot,
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01:05:02,962 --> 01:05:06,504
but given the circumstance
and given what they had to do,
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01:05:06,588 --> 01:05:08,255
it was phenomenal.
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01:05:08,297 --> 01:05:12,423
I was certainly bent on
not just making a music film ,
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01:05:12,465 --> 01:05:17,591
and as you know, every single song was
put in for its lyrical value,
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01:05:17,632 --> 01:05:20,508
you know, not just its musical value.
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01:05:20,592 --> 01:05:22,633
We didn't select songs that were hits,
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01:05:22,717 --> 01:05:27,302
we tried to use the lyrics
as poets would to tell a story.
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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,093
In America,
it was a gigantic movie,
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01:05:30,135 --> 01:05:32,635
and the theaters were full every night
that it was on.
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01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:37,512
People started sitting down ,
but then , as soon as the image came on ,
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01:05:37,596 --> 01:05:40,388
"Been a long time coming ,"
or Sidney Westerfeld saying ...
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01:05:40,471 --> 01:05:42,138
My name is Sidney Westerfeld.
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01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:46,556
I'm the owner of this antique tavern
in Mongaup Valley, New York State.
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01:05:46,848 --> 01:05:49,098
The whole theater would get up en masse,
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01:05:49,140 --> 01:05:51,640
and they wouldn't sit down
for three hours.
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01:05:51,682 --> 01:05:55,016
It was amazing. Just amazing.
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01:05:55,308 --> 01:05:57,767
Watching the film was really wonderful.
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01:05:57,808 --> 01:06:02,060
I was standing in the back,
watching people's reactions
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01:06:02,143 --> 01:06:04,310
and the sequences, the edited sequences.
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01:06:04,393 --> 01:06:06,061
The music is so wonderful.
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01:06:06,144 --> 01:06:08,186
And people really reacted strongly.
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01:06:08,269 --> 01:06:14,354
It was almost like being
at the festival again , in a way,
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01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,772
but in a more comfortable position.
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01:06:17,980 --> 01:06:21,272
It had become another myth.
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01:06:21,314 --> 01:06:27,024
We had our own myth
that we communally experienced.
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01:06:27,107 --> 01:06:30,191
And then there was the movie,
which was magnificent.
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01:06:31,275 --> 01:06:34,901
It is the essence of Woodstock, too.
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01:06:35,317 --> 01:06:39,777
If another film director had been there,
who was strictly interested in the music,
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01:06:39,818 --> 01:06:42,861
and who had simply done the hits,
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01:06:42,944 --> 01:06:49,695
you know, it really could have been
quite a different sort of movie
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01:06:49,779 --> 01:06:52,362
that wouldn't have
had the kind of outreach ,
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01:06:52,446 --> 01:06:55,781
but because I was a documentarian and ,
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01:06:55,822 --> 01:06:57,822
well, I had photographed
Martin uther King
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01:06:57,864 --> 01:07:02,948
and Bobby Kennedy and
the great movers and shakers of the '60s
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01:07:02,990 --> 01:07:05,116
then, all of that kind of resonated,
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01:07:05,158 --> 01:07:09,909
and hopefully, showed up in the movie.
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01:07:10,242 --> 01:07:13,201
People were dancing in the aisles
at this press screening ,
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01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:16,994
which validated what we were saying.
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01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:20,703
And I'll never forget Ted Ashley,
the head of Warner Bros. ,
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01:07:20,787 --> 01:07:23,828
came up behind me, and we were
at such a war at that point that...
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01:07:23,912 --> 01:07:25,662
And he touched me on the shoulder,
and I jumped ,
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01:07:25,746 --> 01:07:28,163
and he said , "You were right."
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01:07:28,246 --> 01:07:29,622
Which was great. Yeah.
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01:07:29,663 --> 01:07:32,372
And then , of course,
the film did become very successful.
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01:07:32,456 --> 01:07:36,956
To look at those people,
in their prime, now,
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01:07:38,916 --> 01:07:41,708
I certainly do think it holds up.
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01:07:42,083 --> 01:07:44,375
It's a wonderful document.
1
01:08:49,292 --> 01:08:52,044
The Hog Farm commune
were a bunch of misfits
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01:08:52,419 --> 01:08:56,381
all living together, helping each other out,
experiencing life together.
3
01:08:56,464 --> 01:08:58,507
It was a beautiful commune.
4
01:08:58,548 --> 01:09:00,926
We were approached
by Stan Goldstein.
5
01:09:01,009 --> 01:09:02,760
And Stan , "Well , how would you like to do
6
01:09:02,843 --> 01:09:05,971
"this music festival in New York state?"
7
01:09:06,055 --> 01:09:09,265
And we said , "Well , we're gonna be
in New Mexico."
8
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:13,602
And he said , "That's all right.
We'll fly you in an astro-jet."
9
01:09:13,686 --> 01:09:16,521
And we figured he was like
one toke over the line,
10
01:09:16,562 --> 01:09:17,939
and we thought nothing of it.
11
01:09:18,022 --> 01:09:20,482
The phone rings,
and it's Bonnie Jean Romney
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01:09:20,607 --> 01:09:22,651
saying they want us to come
with the Hog Farm
13
01:09:22,734 --> 01:09:25,236
and to work there at Woodstock
14
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:28,238
and help with the food
and all that stuff they do.
15
01:09:28,321 --> 01:09:29,781
The Hog Farm , in a way,
16
01:09:29,864 --> 01:09:32,616
set the vibe for all of these people.
17
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:38,913
So everybody kind of had the same
easygoing, non-authoritarian attitudes.
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01:09:40,497 --> 01:09:43,125
We set up a free kitchen
that we were feeding,
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01:09:43,208 --> 01:09:45,710
not the multitudes in any way,
20
01:09:45,751 --> 01:09:48,920
but we were able to cover the people
that were really stuck
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01:09:48,962 --> 01:09:50,422
and didn't have anything.
22
01:09:51,589 --> 01:09:54,466
I got a truck
and I went to the nearby farmers
23
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:57,260
and bought their entire farm.
24
01:09:58,886 --> 01:10:00,388
I said , "Give me that row of cabbage.
25
01:10:00,430 --> 01:10:02,597
"Give me that row of corn .
Give me that row of tomatoes."
26
01:10:02,973 --> 01:10:05,266
After Woodstock
got started
27
01:10:05,349 --> 01:10:07,518
and we realized
how many people there were,
28
01:10:07,685 --> 01:10:11,062
we had to go back and forth to New York
and get more food.
29
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,314
Having come totally unprepared
30
01:10:14,398 --> 01:10:16,400
and having just turned 16,
31
01:10:16,567 --> 01:10:19,777
I became hungry and was right there
at the free kitchen.
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01:10:20,611 --> 01:10:23,155
We were doing maybe 5, 000 people a meal
33
01:10:23,238 --> 01:10:25,907
with bulgur wheat, with salad ,
stuff like that.
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01:10:25,949 --> 01:10:29,201
SI PP If you were coming to eat,
you were also gonna help out.
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01:10:29,285 --> 01:10:31,369
And I loved it.
I loved being part of that group.
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01:10:31,453 --> 01:10:33,204
And they became my family, too.
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01:10:33,288 --> 01:10:37,082
The Hog Farm did set up
what we called "freak-out centers."
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01:10:37,624 --> 01:10:42,378
People who had taken acid
for the first time or something like that.
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01:10:43,462 --> 01:10:46,131
We already knew
in the Hog Farm experience that
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01:10:46,214 --> 01:10:48,549
you could always talk somebody down.
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01:10:48,841 --> 01:10:52,302
We didn't want them
giving the trippers Thorazine,
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01:10:52,886 --> 01:10:56,638
because if you give somebody Thorazine,
it stops their trip and knocks them out.
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01:10:57,264 --> 01:10:58,932
We wanted them to finish their trip.
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01:10:59,849 --> 01:11:03,311
SI PP As soon as somebody was able
to be verbal again,
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01:11:03,394 --> 01:11:05,645
they would become the doctor
for the next person.
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01:11:05,729 --> 01:11:09,315
What happened in these freak-out centers,
at the free kitchen ,
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01:11:09,398 --> 01:11:12,275
was that in the same way
the early volunteers had come
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01:11:12,358 --> 01:11:14,694
and just pitched in
and kind of become Hog Farmers,
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01:11:15,403 --> 01:11:18,197
the people who got over
their demons with LSD
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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,990
or came to the kitchen ,
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01:11:20,073 --> 01:11:21,824
they basically wanted to stay and help.
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01:11:21,908 --> 01:11:23,868
And I think that's what happened
at Woodstock
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01:11:24,701 --> 01:11:26,995
is that everybody
respected everybody else.
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01:11:27,162 --> 01:11:29,872
Once you're a Hog Farmer,
you're always a Hog Farmer.
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01:11:29,955 --> 01:11:33,666
Even if you were only a Hog Farmer
for a week at Woodstock,
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01:11:33,708 --> 01:11:35,376
you're still always a Hog Farmer.
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01:11:47,625 --> 01:11:49,343
I came out to California
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01:11:50,601 --> 01:11:54,456
and in '68 and '69 did a show
called Playboy After Dark.
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01:11:55,545 --> 01:11:58,228
It was a syndicated variety show.
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01:12:00,071 --> 01:12:03,256
The premise of which was that
5
01:12:03,339 --> 01:12:06,818
instead of doing a variety show on a stage
in front of an audience,
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01:12:06,901 --> 01:12:09,122
it appeared to be my apartment.
7
01:12:09,164 --> 01:12:11,636
It appeared to be a party in my apartment.
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01:12:12,558 --> 01:12:16,832
And we devoted one entire show
to Woodstock.
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01:12:17,336 --> 01:12:21,568
We got a response to the Vietnam War,
we got the civil rights movement.
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01:12:22,029 --> 01:12:24,417
And all of that came together
with the Summer of Love.
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01:12:26,764 --> 01:12:28,901
And that gave us Woodstock.
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01:12:28,943 --> 01:12:31,625
And Woodstock was a celebration
of all of that.
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01:12:31,709 --> 01:12:34,474
The flower children , the hippies
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01:12:36,234 --> 01:12:40,089
and , you know, the corny
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01:12:41,305 --> 01:12:46,752
but still very pertinent notion
of "Let's make love, not war."
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01:12:46,836 --> 01:12:51,236
And that, in combination with the music,
is what Woodstock was all about.
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01:12:52,576 --> 01:12:53,750
As you may have overheard ,
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01:12:53,834 --> 01:12:56,180
we're going to have
a kind of a special evening tonight.
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01:12:56,265 --> 01:12:59,155
A lot of our people here, our guests,
are into the contemporary scene
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01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,958
and a few of them , well ahead of it.
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01:13:01,125 --> 01:13:02,340
But to really top the evening off,
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01:13:02,424 --> 01:13:05,357
we're going to have clips
from Woodstock, the film.
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01:13:05,441 --> 01:13:09,883
In preparation for that show,
for Playboy After Dark,
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01:13:09,967 --> 01:13:15,582
and knowing that we were going to be
devoting a show to Woodstock,
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01:13:16,839 --> 01:13:21,574
because I had not seen the movie
and I had not been at Woodstock.
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01:13:21,658 --> 01:13:25,345
I was going with a young lady
who was a regular on the show
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01:13:25,388 --> 01:13:26,393
named Barbi Benton ,
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01:13:27,063 --> 01:13:29,453
a relationship that lasted
for about eight years.
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01:13:30,248 --> 01:13:34,439
And we went out to a post-midnight show
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01:13:36,283 --> 01:13:41,228
and saw it the night before
we did the Playboy After Dark show
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01:13:41,311 --> 01:13:44,077
so that I would be prepared
to do the interview.
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01:13:51,075 --> 01:13:55,935
All right, that is one brief clip
of several we're going to show tonight
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01:13:56,020 --> 01:13:58,366
from what I consider to be
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01:13:58,408 --> 01:14:01,342
one of the really remarkable
documentaries of our time,
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01:14:02,305 --> 01:14:07,208
Woodstock, which is a film
by Mike Wadleigh ,
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01:14:07,291 --> 01:14:09,638
who is here with us tonight.
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01:14:09,722 --> 01:14:11,859
-And I'm delighted to have you here, Mike.
-Thanks a lot.
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01:14:11,943 --> 01:14:15,086
And most of you have probably not
had a chance to see the film yet.
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01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:18,019
Barbi and I went in
and saw it a few nights ago.
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01:14:18,061 --> 01:14:21,874
And I want to say in front,
before we talk about the film , that...
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01:14:21,916 --> 01:14:23,341
I think you've all heard about Woodstock.
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01:14:23,383 --> 01:14:25,645
Woodstock was, as you know,
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01:14:25,729 --> 01:14:29,249
the most spectacular
love-and-music festival of our time.
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01:14:30,088 --> 01:14:33,649
And the film that Mike and his people
have managed to make from it
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01:14:34,571 --> 01:14:38,385
is unbelievable and , I think,
really sets a new precedent
47
01:14:38,468 --> 01:14:40,270
for what documentary films
ought to be all about,
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01:14:40,312 --> 01:14:44,083
because both cinematically
and from a sound point of view,
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01:14:44,838 --> 01:14:46,472
it's a real experience.
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And it must've been something else
trying to do it.
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Well , it was, in a way,
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but the best thing about
making films like this
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is that you're participating.
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I mean , it's not a sense of doing a job
or making a constructed Hollywood film ,
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where you have scripts
and makeup people and all that.
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I mean , you just go there,
participate and do it.
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And come away with a sense of vitality
or a sense of reality of being there.
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And in every way, we were trying
to make an experience film ,
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the kind of substitute experience
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for those people who were there
or who weren't there.
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It didn't matter.
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I don't think anybody knew
beforehand , however,
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just how much of an experience
it was going to be.
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The whole phenomenon
of opposition to the war
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and a celebration of the music
and a celebration of love
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was one of a kind.
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I mean , there's never been anything like it
before or since.
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And I think that it was a moment
in history that is remembered clearly,
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not only then , but now,
or we wouldn't be talking about it.
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H EFN ER: And you , before the fact,
must've had a notion
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it was going to be something special
or you wouldn't have been there, but...
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Well , just like you saw in this film clip,
I think what attracted most of us there
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was the idea of holding a rock festival
on a big farm.
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I mean , it was like going to
your uncle's farm on a weekend , okay,
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and with a big transistor radio
in the form of 36 rock groups.
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The farm looked a little different
after it was all over.
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What, it was something between
00, 000 and 500, 000 people
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congregated in the area.
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Well , they say that better than
half a million more
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tried to make it there.
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I understand they were
blocking the highways
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100 and more miles away
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to stop the people from getting there.
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Exactly. They closed ...
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The New York State Thruway
is eight lanes wide,
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and they closed it all off and turned them
all back in the other direction.
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I have a strong music connection.
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And the show itself featured
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a combination of both jazz
and rock and roll.
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And music was key to what
the show was all about.
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It was a variety show that had humor
and some conversation ,
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but music was key.
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One of the most remarkable things
about this particular event,
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beyond its just incredible size,
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was also the fact that
these kids got together
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under rather incredible circumstances.
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Because of the size of the crowd ,
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there was completely
inadequate living conditions,
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food , sanitation ,
and they also ran into bad weather.
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No, I was glad I wasn't there,
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but I don't think I would've
enjoyed all the mud.
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And the actual circumstances
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of living there for those several days
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was pretty rough and ready,
and I'm not an outdoor guy.
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I created the magazine and my life
as a celebration of the great indoors.
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But I think that the message,
in terms of Woodstock,
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was something I very much believed in.
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And there was a very open
and permissive attitude
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towards both drugs and sex
during the period they were staying there,
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-and yet there was no violence.
-Right.
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-No violence at all .
-Well. .. Excuse me,
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it was like one of the guys says in the film.
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There are a couple of adults arguing
and one of them says to the other,
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"Now, can you imagine 50, 000 adults
getting together
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-"with beer at any place.. ."
-Right.
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There was a beautiful interview
with a local police officer
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who said he thought the kids were swell
and everybody was behaving themselves
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and having a good time.
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And the interviewer said , "Well , isn't that
kind of a funny idea
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"or a funny attitude for a cop?"
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And he paused a moment, and he said ,
"I'm not a cop. I'm a police chief."
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That got an applause, I must say,
at the theater where I was at.
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You know, the kind of things,
including the rain
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and the circumstances that they faced
out there in the country,
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not only didn't get in their way,
it seemed to add to the fun.
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Yeah. I mean , most people...
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This is what it means
to make this kind of a film.
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Because most guys would've run for cover
and put their cameras away.
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But our people got out in the mud
and , as you know, there are later shots
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where the cameraman actually slides
with his camera,
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point-of-view shots.
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But that was the whole thing that I mean
about participating.
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There wasn't a separation between
the people who were making the film
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and the people who were
in front of the cameras.
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I mean , it was all a rapport situation.
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You were very good
about showing both sides,
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but an amazing number of people
in the community,
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the people there pitched in
when they found out
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that kids were there
and didn't have anything to eat.
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They pitched in
and brought food to the kids,
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set up additional sanitation facilities.
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The love-festival aspect of it
and the spiritual aspect of it,
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-I think, did come across.
- And ...
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How much footage did you shoot?
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We shot a quarter of a million feet,
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which is about 120 hours.
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And then the film is three hours long ,
but with all the multiple images added up,
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it's really eight hours long.
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So, we used a lot of footage.
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Well , the one thing
that I alluded to at the beginning
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that I wanna really say again
is that I think that this,
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not only is the most
remarkable documentary
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done on this particular subject
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that I have ever seen ,
but I think it also sets a new precedent
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in terms of what one can expect
in the way of documentaries in the future
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in terms of excellence of photography
and sound.
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-Thank you .
-This is the first time that we've had
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a chance to meet, and I want to thank you
for coming this evening
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and for bringing this film and allowing us
to show it on the air.
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Because I think that
the kids enjoyed it here
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and the folks at home enjoyed it.
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And I want to personally recommend
to everyone, young and old ,
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this film which I think is one of the most
important motion pictures
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you're going to see in quite a while.
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One of the things that is most fortunate
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is that that film exists
that captured the real sense
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of that remarkable weekend.
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And it's a phenomenal documentary.
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I think the two seminal events from 1969
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were the moon landing and Woodstock,
one could say.
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And they were both
such romantic, improbable,
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glorious, innocent events in some sense.
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We were in Bethel.
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By that point,
we took over a small motel for a while.
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I got us a television
so we could watch the moon landing.
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I certainly remember
where I was.
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I was making a mountain-climbing film
at the time, way out in the mountains,
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and I came out of the mountains
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just in time to see
the guys landing on the moon.
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And we were in a bar
in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
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And , God ! We'd go out
and look up at the real moon
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and look at the TV and think,
"Oh , my God!
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"Isn't this just remarkable?"
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That's one small step for man,
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one giant leap for mankind.
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That looks beautiful from here, Neil.
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Being this group
of conspiracy-theory,
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01:22:31,839 --> 01:22:35,597
counterculture,
nothing-is-what-you-see people,
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no one believed it was happening.
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And I had gotten them the television
to watch a thing that
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they felt was being done in a sound studio.
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But that was kind of wonderful , too.
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WADEIGH
And then just a little while later,
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there I was,
standing on the stage at Woodstock.
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And I remember when each day
the New York Times banner came in ,
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and we got the biggest...
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We got as much width
as the moon landing got, right.
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And of course, it's a famous story
that the New York Times
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carefully analyzes whether
you're worth the whole width or not.
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Well , we got the whole width.
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And I just remember,
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for me, standing there looking
at the moon and so on
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and standing there looking
at all those people
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and those incredible musicians.
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And isn't it interesting that, equally,
we have not had another Woodstock
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and we have not had
another moon landing.
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And maybe, again, the economics of it all
and the dream
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and the idealism and so on
that drove both events, I would say,
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maybe now with money
being so much tighter
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and with calculation
being so much tighter,
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it's harder to launch those kind of
idealistic endeavors.
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But, boy, were they great.
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The Woodstock Festival was
going to take place
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in Woodstock, New York,
till they were kicked out.
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Well , there wasn't an original location
until down the road.
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I mean , we were looking for quite a while.
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BE They had been moving around.
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I mean, these festival guys,
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you know, had had three prior locations
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announced on the radio,
starting in March of 1969.
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We finally settled on Wallkill
at the end of March ,
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out of desperation , really.
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And it was a site that I always hated.
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It had the virtue of being there
and being available, so we went for it.
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We lost Wallkill.
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It was kind of miraculous
the way that happened.
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We lost Wallkill on the 1 th or the 15th
when the town council decided
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that they were not going
to approve our permit,
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the permit they invented for this event.
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And I found a better one on the 16th ,
a day later.
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Well , we wound up there because
somebody named Elliot Tiber called me
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and said , "I have a site and a permit,
and we want you ."
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Met Elliot at the El Monaco Motel
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right in the middle of the town
of White Lake.
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And Elliot led us down to a field
behind the motel
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that he and his parents operated ,
which from the rim looked beautiful.
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As we walked down into it,
it began to get squishy,
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and then it got squishier,
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and then we wound up in mud
to our knees.
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And Elliot had bugged out,
Elliot had simply disappeared.
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And that was the end of that site.
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I received a call
through Elliot Tiber,
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who said that there was this man , a fixer,
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someone who's a go-between,
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who puts this guy together with this guy
and they make a deal.
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And he knew a man who had a farm.
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We got in this big Buick and we went
driving through the countryside.
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Michael and I drove up and we got there
and we met Max.
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And we drove out in two cars,
the fixer and Max in one car,
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Michael and I in the other,
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and he took us to this enormous field ,
very flat but very big.
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And there it is.
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And , like, I looked at Michael and I said ,
"Boy, you know, it's big ,
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"but this would make a parking lot.
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"We need some elevation ,
we need something ,
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"because people have got to see
the stage."
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And we said , "Do you have anything
that has some roll to it, some contour?"
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"I have a field , alfalfa."
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And we go out and look at it.
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So we drove out,
and it was raining , drizzling ,
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and there was a mist eve*here,
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and we were on the top of what is now
this famous amphitheater, you know.
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And the mist started to rise,
and there was the lake,
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and here was this perfect amphitheater.
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ANG There it was. We stopped the car.
You know, "This is it."
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Sort of we were
congratulating each other,
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and then Michael took Max to the side
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and very quickly they made a deal.
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And he'd heard what happened to us
in Wallkill
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and thought that we were railroaded.
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And so he was politically, if you will ,
on our side.
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...and felt that we had been
treated unfairly,
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that a special case was being made,
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and that he was gonna stand up
for what was right.
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Max and I went off into the field ,
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and I said , you know, "This is it.
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"We really want your field .
This is where we need to be."
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And we made a deal,
right there on the field.
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Max was a Yankee
in the very best meaning of the words
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and a true believer in the American dream.
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I'm a farmer. I don't know...
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I don't know how to speak to 20 people
at one time, let alone a crowd like this,
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but I think you people
have proven something to the world.
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Not only to the town of Bethel
or Sullivan County or New York State,
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you've proven something to the world.
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The important thing
that you've proven to the world
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is that a half a million kids,
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01:28:34,237 --> 01:28:38,061
and I call you kids because I have children
that are older than you are,
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a half a million young people
can get together
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01:28:41,594 --> 01:28:46,998
and have three days of fun and music,
and have nothing but fun and music,
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and God bless you for it!
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01:28:52,942 --> 01:28:54,148
ANG Max was an amazing guy.
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01:28:54,190 --> 01:28:59,136
Max was, you know, one of those
sort of real American
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01:29:02,378 --> 01:29:04,331
wholegrain kinds of guys,
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01:29:05,204 --> 01:29:09,361
very straight, very honest,
very conservative in a lot of ways,
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but a real man of his word
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and someone who thought
that people had the right to do
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whatever they wanted to do
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as long as it was not adversely affecting
the people around them.
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01:29:34,633 --> 01:29:36,779
We had all agreed
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01:29:36,786 --> 01:29:40,878
that bringing over this new KEM,
the KEM editing machine
3
01:29:40,905 --> 01:29:42,951
from Frankfurt, Germany,
4
01:29:43,191 --> 01:29:47,283
was an absolutely essential ingredient
to the whole thing.
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01:29:47,343 --> 01:29:51,035
Yeah , that enabled the multiple images
to be cut effectively
6
01:29:51,316 --> 01:29:55,008
so you could preview them
without going to an optical stage,
7
01:29:55,028 --> 01:29:56,127
which none of us could afford to do.
8
01:29:56,194 --> 01:29:59,091
At the time,
we didn't have that much money,
9
01:29:59,231 --> 01:30:03,028
and it was a lot of money
for me to lay out.
10
01:30:03,084 --> 01:30:04,382
I think it was 15 grand
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01:30:04,504 --> 01:30:05,803
-or something like that.
-Yeah , 15 grand.
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In those days,
15, 000 was a great deal of money.
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01:30:08,389 --> 01:30:12,485
And I was really interested,
intellectually, in multiple image work,
14
01:30:12,518 --> 01:30:15,515
and also trying to figure out
how to beat the bank,
15
01:30:15,593 --> 01:30:19,390
how to do it simply and effectively
and economically.
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01:30:19,590 --> 01:30:24,485
So I'd read about this company
that had designed
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01:30:24,884 --> 01:30:26,783
this three-headed monster.
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01:30:27,037 --> 01:30:28,935
Three, I mean, you could put up
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three images and one soundtrack,
or two soundtracks and two images.
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It was just a breakthrough for us,
particularly for me
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01:30:37,472 --> 01:30:38,671
in the documentary footage,
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it meant I could buzz through
large quantities of footage.++++
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01:30:42,822 --> 01:30:45,519
I could have three images up all the time
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01:30:45,619 --> 01:30:49,216
and be looking for ways
to inter cut things.
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It struck me
as just a magnificent machine,
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so we particularly went to the factory,
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01:30:55,277 --> 01:30:58,174
and we got the very first one
that came to America.
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-And.. .
-I'm gonna tell that little story,
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01:31:00,693 --> 01:31:01,892
because it's really hilarious.
30
01:31:02,059 --> 01:31:07,154
Francis was building , in San Francisco,
American Zoetrope.
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01:31:08,353 --> 01:31:12,149
He had all of his dubbing machines
in San Francisco at Zoetrope,
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01:31:12,249 --> 01:31:14,047
but he did not have
any of the editing machines.
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01:31:14,791 --> 01:31:18,387
Peter Wolfert, at KEM in Frankfurt,
34
01:31:18,432 --> 01:31:24,326
had said that one of his machines was
going to land at JFK
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01:31:24,537 --> 01:31:26,835
on a pallet, you know,
like tomorrow morning.
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01:31:28,012 --> 01:31:29,510
And I got on the phone with Francis
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01:31:30,143 --> 01:31:33,939
and said , "We would like to rent
your KEM machine,
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01:31:34,039 --> 01:31:36,037
"because we understand it's in New York,
39
01:31:36,046 --> 01:31:38,524
"and we're doing this film
called Woodstock, and blah , blah , blah ."
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01:31:38,568 --> 01:31:39,866
And he said , "No, you can't possibly."
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01:31:39,911 --> 01:31:42,709
I said , "Francis, Francis ! "
And I begged , begged.
42
01:31:42,730 --> 01:31:46,227
We all begged Francis
to let us have this one.
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01:31:46,305 --> 01:31:48,203
And we worked out a rental agreement,
44
01:31:48,469 --> 01:31:52,365
and we got Peter Wolfert to send Francis
a second one
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01:31:52,443 --> 01:31:54,241
almost immediately thereafter.
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01:31:54,508 --> 01:31:59,004
But the very first one that Francis wanted
and was expecting
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01:31:59,071 --> 01:32:01,868
landed in our editing place.
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01:32:02,478 --> 01:32:04,376
WADEIGH But that machine was
an absolute godsend.
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01:32:04,442 --> 01:32:06,840
They were everything
we thought they were.
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01:32:06,875 --> 01:32:09,672
It was super German engineering.
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01:32:09,689 --> 01:32:10,988
They really worked ,
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01:32:11,047 --> 01:32:13,856
they were wonderfully,
wonderfully thought out.
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01:32:13,967 --> 01:32:18,662
It was a wonderful machine, quiet,
beautifully designed ,
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01:32:18,751 --> 01:32:20,150
and that's what I was working on,
55
01:32:20,594 --> 01:32:22,991
originally, when we were cutting
the Aretha Franklin footage
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01:32:23,091 --> 01:32:25,089
that inspired the idea of multiple images.
57
01:32:25,246 --> 01:32:30,041
Then I aggressively went after
multiple image ideas in film
58
01:32:30,862 --> 01:32:33,959
to increase this kind of
point of view potential.
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01:32:34,136 --> 01:32:36,534
Michael was showing me things
as we went along.
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01:32:37,244 --> 01:32:43,239
One day, he said to me,
"Fred , I'd like to do split-screen ."
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01:32:43,282 --> 01:32:45,281
And I said , "Mike, I hate split-screen.
62
01:32:45,458 --> 01:32:48,455
"If there's anything I hate,
it's split-screen ."
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01:32:48,464 --> 01:32:50,243
I said it usually never works.
64
01:32:50,343 --> 01:32:51,741
He said ,
"Well , let me show you this, okay?"
65
01:32:51,896 --> 01:32:56,192
And he showed me two 16mm cameras
together, right,
66
01:32:56,426 --> 01:33:00,921
and he showed me the section
that he'd edited with them.
67
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:05,395
And it blew me away.
It really got me so excited.
68
01:33:05,706 --> 01:33:09,202
We were approached
at the end of J uly of 1969
69
01:33:09,321 --> 01:33:14,116
by David and Al Maysles
and Porter Bibb, their producer,
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01:33:14,708 --> 01:33:18,704
who had heard that we had this technique,
71
01:33:18,804 --> 01:33:22,400
and we brought them
into a screening room ,
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01:33:22,644 --> 01:33:27,140
and in the screening room ,
which was, maybe, 20 feet by 20 feet,
73
01:33:27,296 --> 01:33:30,792
there were three projectors,
Graflex projectors,
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01:33:30,914 --> 01:33:33,711
on three projector stands,
75
01:33:33,811 --> 01:33:39,106
a three-image, two-track film
76
01:33:39,373 --> 01:33:41,371
that was about 15 minutes in length.
77
01:33:41,515 --> 01:33:44,712
Certainly, some of that footage
proved to us
78
01:33:44,801 --> 01:33:49,196
that if you had a great performer,
and a great set of circumstances,
79
01:33:49,285 --> 01:33:51,383
that this would add not just a gimmick,
80
01:33:51,505 --> 01:33:54,902
but a real , new kind of way
of perceiving events
81
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,477
and performances that enhanced it.
82
01:33:57,755 --> 01:34:03,949
And this occurred , like,
every time that we invited new people in.
83
01:34:04,049 --> 01:34:08,145
We had so revolutionized Hollywood
by importing
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01:34:08,267 --> 01:34:11,130
the first flatbed editing tables
that they had ever seen.
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01:34:22,250 --> 01:34:26,462
The '60s generation is often called
the Woodstock generation.
2
01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:30,298
I don't think the decade had a name
3
01:34:30,340 --> 01:34:32,342
before Woodstock happened ,
4
01:34:32,424 --> 01:34:38,055
but it enabled our media-driven society
5
01:34:38,138 --> 01:34:42,850
to be able to put a symbol
next to a feeling.
6
01:34:42,934 --> 01:34:46,478
The '60s was a feeling among people.
7
01:34:46,645 --> 01:34:50,148
At the time it felt like something
that was just very important.
8
01:34:50,190 --> 01:34:52,441
They were the first generation
that really believed
9
01:34:52,483 --> 01:34:55,277
that they could actually make
a monumental difference.
10
01:34:55,319 --> 01:34:58,780
And they were getting conflicting
messages from the establishment.
11
01:34:58,822 --> 01:35:00,740
"You gotta be this way.
You've gotta do things."
12
01:35:00,823 --> 01:35:03,952
And the establishment
wasn't being this way
13
01:35:03,992 --> 01:35:05,035
and wasn't doing these things.
14
01:35:05,119 --> 01:35:07,996
My group wasn't buying that.
15
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,332
They weren't buying into
the American dream ,
16
01:35:11,374 --> 01:35:13,125
as it had been presented.
17
01:35:13,167 --> 01:35:14,335
We were more into changing things.
18
01:35:14,417 --> 01:35:16,671
We were more into
the revolution of changing.
19
01:35:16,711 --> 01:35:18,797
We're not gonna do this,
we're not gonna have jobs,
20
01:35:18,838 --> 01:35:21,006
we don't wanna go to school,
we don't wanna do any of those things.
21
01:35:21,091 --> 01:35:26,262
I think we all meant to change it
very, very, in a very peaceful way.
22
01:35:30,682 --> 01:35:33,351
Well, of course, the ecology
movement got started then.
23
01:35:33,393 --> 01:35:35,936
The consciousness
for what's happening to the planet
24
01:35:36,019 --> 01:35:37,521
began during that era.
25
01:35:37,604 --> 01:35:39,815
Anti-war, you know, here we are to Iraq ,
26
01:35:39,855 --> 01:35:41,524
well , it was Vietnam then.
27
01:35:41,607 --> 01:35:44,693
This horrible war going on
that nobody wanted any part of.
28
01:35:44,777 --> 01:35:46,695
It was unpopular, but it was going on ,
29
01:35:46,736 --> 01:35:50,489
and everybody knew it was pretty much
the wrong thing to be doing.
30
01:35:50,907 --> 01:35:53,534
The United States Army
has lent us some medical teams
31
01:35:56,203 --> 01:35:57,912
and giving us a hand.
33
01:35:59,288 --> 01:36:01,331
They're with us, man.
They are not against us.
34
01:36:01,373 --> 01:36:04,418
They are with us. They're here
to give us all a hand and help us.
35
01:36:04,501 --> 01:36:07,045
We, the youth of the time,
36
01:36:07,921 --> 01:36:09,922
felt like we were sort of
backed into a corner,
37
01:36:10,006 --> 01:36:11,882
and at the same time, we were huge.
38
01:36:13,425 --> 01:36:15,011
Woodstock showed to the world
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01:36:15,635 --> 01:36:18,430
all these people
who had been against Vietnam ,
40
01:36:18,513 --> 01:36:20,974
against the new sexual mores,
41
01:36:21,056 --> 01:36:23,517
all the things that were happening
in the '60s
42
01:36:23,559 --> 01:36:25,561
all came together at Woodstock.
43
01:36:25,728 --> 01:36:29,022
It was not only anti-war,
it was love in the broader sense.
44
01:36:29,063 --> 01:36:35,110
It was a breakdown of racial boundaries,
something that I very strongly feel.
45
01:36:35,193 --> 01:36:36,736
I felt then , feel today.
46
01:36:36,861 --> 01:36:43,033
U ntil 1965, you could go
to a soda fountain in South Carolina
47
01:36:43,074 --> 01:36:45,827
and not be allowed to sit next to someone
who wasn't your color.
48
01:36:46,036 --> 01:36:48,162
Also human rights, you know, gay rights,
49
01:36:48,246 --> 01:36:50,914
women's rights, black rights, and so on ,
50
01:36:50,956 --> 01:36:53,624
that took off during that time.
51
01:36:53,709 --> 01:36:56,878
It was a breaking down of
of all the various boundaries
52
01:36:56,919 --> 01:36:59,964
that separate men and nations.
53
01:37:00,047 --> 01:37:05,260
That was a very rapid change,
that had really affected everything
54
01:37:05,301 --> 01:37:08,054
that was what we call
the Woodstock generation.
55
01:37:08,095 --> 01:37:12,974
All of those sort of things had
a sort of mini-revolution.
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01:37:13,058 --> 01:37:15,018
And there it was for people to see,
57
01:37:15,101 --> 01:37:17,561
and they could see
these wonderful people,
58
01:37:17,603 --> 01:37:20,522
and , you know, you'd been hearing
about hippies and all the terrible...
59
01:37:20,606 --> 01:37:24,567
And here they are,
these wonderful , joyous people
60
01:37:24,610 --> 01:37:26,361
having the greatest time of their life.
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01:37:26,443 --> 01:37:29,654
This was, you know, a show of force,
62
01:37:32,199 --> 01:37:34,241
for everybody to say, "Okay,
63
01:37:34,326 --> 01:37:37,703
"things are changing ,
and we're gonna change the world ."
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01:37:37,787 --> 01:37:40,581
And you really felt at that time
65
01:37:41,414 --> 01:37:43,166
that there was a difference
being made here
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01:37:43,249 --> 01:37:45,626
just by the show of people.
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01:37:45,667 --> 01:37:50,172
I think that this event culminated
that decade
68
01:37:50,254 --> 01:37:52,799
and somewhat culminated that feeling.
69
01:37:52,882 --> 01:37:56,051
Somebody was saying this was
the second largest city in New York.
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01:37:56,135 --> 01:38:00,097
There's been no police.
There's been no trouble.
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01:38:00,347 --> 01:38:03,725
I NTERVI EWER: You said a moment ago
that this wasn't the end of this festival ,
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01:38:03,808 --> 01:38:06,434
that this was a beginning .
What do you mean , a beginning?
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01:38:06,477 --> 01:38:08,978
Well , look at it.
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01:38:09,771 --> 01:38:11,189
This is the beginning
of this kind of thing.
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01:38:11,272 --> 01:38:12,690
ARTIE Of this kind of thing?
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01:38:12,774 --> 01:38:16,527
Worldwide, I don't feel that
anyone thinks that another generation ,
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01:38:16,610 --> 01:38:18,195
even right up to now,
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01:38:18,278 --> 01:38:20,863
has even come close
to starting a revolution
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01:38:20,948 --> 01:38:23,032
like the Woodstock generation did.
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01:38:23,117 --> 01:38:27,494
So, I'm sort of proud and excited
to be part of it.
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01:38:28,328 --> 01:38:30,079
I'm very proud to be of that generation ,
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01:38:30,163 --> 01:38:34,083
and I think we stopped the planet
for a year or so.
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01:38:34,667 --> 01:38:37,753
Woodstock was like the.. .
It was the wraparound that said ,
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01:38:37,836 --> 01:38:40,588
"This is the Woodstock nation ."
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01:38:41,172 --> 01:38:43,173
And because that weekend
we could all cooperate,
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01:38:43,216 --> 01:38:46,802
there was a birth , a death ,
there was a cosmos there.
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01:38:46,844 --> 01:38:50,180
And we did , we all cooperated .
I stayed out there for three nights.
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01:38:50,263 --> 01:38:54,224
Can't remember it all ,
but we were very much a part of it,
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01:38:54,891 --> 01:38:59,104
so it was an important cultural landmark.
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01:39:25,250 --> 01:39:26,876
The Woodstock Music and Art Fair,
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01:39:26,959 --> 01:39:30,002
the three-day Aquarian Exposition
at White ake in Bethel, New York
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01:39:30,087 --> 01:39:33,504
will give you uncomplicated, unhurried,
calm days of peace and music.
5
01:39:33,962 --> 01:39:36,756
Friday, August 15th,
you'll hear stars such as Joan Baez,
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01:39:36,839 --> 01:39:40,633
Arlo Guthrie, Tim Hart, Richie Havens,
Ravi Shankar and many others.
7
01:39:41,049 --> 01:39:44,468
Saturday, August 16th, Canned Heat,
Creedence Clearwater Revival,
8
01:39:44,510 --> 01:39:47,595
Grateful Dead, Janis Joplin,
Jefferson Airplane and The Who.
9
01:39:48,011 --> 01:39:50,054
Sunday, August 17th,
Blood, Sweat and Tears,
10
01:39:50,137 --> 01:39:53,889
Crosby, Stills and Nash, Santana,
Jimi Hendrix, Johnny Winter,
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01:39:53,972 --> 01:39:55,224
and that's not all.
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01:39:55,306 --> 01:39:57,974
Camp grounds will be open
for two days before the festival.
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01:39:58,016 --> 01:40:02,519
There are over 600 acres of land to roam,
bazaars to browse, creative workshops.
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01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:06,145
Heavy traffic is anticipated, so leave early
if you wish to arrive on time.
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01:40:06,896 --> 01:40:08,480
Tickets for
the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair
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01:40:08,522 --> 01:40:12,232
are *7, *14 and *18
for one, two or three days
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01:40:12,315 --> 01:40:15,150
and can be purchased in advance
at most local record stores.
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01:40:15,191 --> 01:40:16,942
No checks will be accepted at the gate.
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01:40:17,526 --> 01:40:21,820
Be at the Woodstock Music and Arts Fair,
August 15th, 16th and 17th
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01:40:21,861 --> 01:40:23,695
in Bethel, New York.
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01:40:23,780 --> 01:40:25,905
(RADIO TU N I NG
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01:40:27,864 --> 01:40:31,450
WOMAN
More than 200, 000 followers of pop music
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01:40:31,533 --> 01:40:34,535
have jammed
the Catskill Mountain hamlet of Bethel
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01:40:34,618 --> 01:40:36,285
for a rock music festival.
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01:40:36,369 --> 01:40:39,829
Cars are being abandoned on highways
leading to the resort area.
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01:40:39,870 --> 01:40:43,706
Festival producers have called for
all vehicles heading to that festival
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01:40:43,789 --> 01:40:45,498
to turn back home.
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01:40:49,626 --> 01:40:51,125
Few other announcements.
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01:40:52,127 --> 01:40:57,004
The road, third road on your left
is still a problem,
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01:40:57,045 --> 01:41:00,923
for entrance and access, please,
have that cleared as soon as possible.
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01:41:24,143 --> 01:41:27,894
We're sorry for
the technical necessities of the crane.
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01:41:29,854 --> 01:41:35,022
You people that have placed tents
in the viewing area,
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01:41:35,898 --> 01:41:39,525
please do take them down so that
those behind can view as well.
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01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:46,779
In a situation such as this
we must return the responsibility to you.
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01:41:53,031 --> 01:41:56,658
One thing about this is,
we're a pretty big city right now,
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01:41:57,576 --> 01:41:59,994
so we've got all sorts of things.
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01:42:02,578 --> 01:42:04,288
Sam, can you get the monitors on ?
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01:42:07,247 --> 01:42:10,123
Richard Boch, get back to Eddie Kramer
in the sound truck.
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01:42:10,207 --> 01:42:11,916
Richard Boch, get back to Eddie Kramer.
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01:42:13,917 --> 01:42:15,334
Before we begin,
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01:42:15,418 --> 01:42:17,836
could we ask you please,
once again, to leave the towers,
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01:42:19,420 --> 01:42:24,047
and then, in the same breath,
thank you for making all this possible.
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01:42:30,333 --> 01:42:33,881
There's a couple of packages
of garbage bags here.
2
01:42:35,050 --> 01:42:37,804
If on your way out,
you wouldn't mind taking one,
3
01:42:37,846 --> 01:42:41,019
filling it up
and leaving it where you filled it,
4
01:42:41,102 --> 01:42:43,689
that certainly would be appreciated.
5
01:42:44,858 --> 01:42:46,903
An*hing you can do to give us a hand
6
01:42:46,987 --> 01:42:50,826
to leave this area
somewhat the way we found it,
7
01:42:50,868 --> 01:42:53,039
I don't think it'll ever be quite the same,
8
01:42:53,914 --> 01:42:58,213
but somewhat the way we found it,
certainly would be appreciated.
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01:43:03,514 --> 01:43:05,392
It's been a delight seeing you.
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01:43:06,101 --> 01:43:10,567
May we wish you anything
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01:43:11,402 --> 01:43:14,032
that the person next to you
wishes for you.
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01:43:15,201 --> 01:43:19,415
Good wishes, good day and a good life.
14
01:43:20,250 --> 01:43:21,586
Thank you.
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01:43:43,289 --> 01:43:46,336
Pat Dutch, please go to the
pink and white medical tent.
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01:43:58,292 --> 01:44:01,759
I think that turning point was when ,
by Wednesday, I think,
2
01:44:01,842 --> 01:44:05,017
we had 0, 000 or 50, 000 kids
sitting in the field.
3
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:08,902
So, we'd sold 120, 000 tickets in advance,
4
01:44:08,985 --> 01:44:11,241
and if that's any indication
of what's coming ,
5
01:44:11,325 --> 01:44:14,834
we knew we were well over
the 200, 000 we'd planned on.
6
01:44:14,876 --> 01:44:17,256
I think the turning point, actually,
7
01:44:17,341 --> 01:44:20,724
for the whole thing was
when it got near to the festival ,
8
01:44:20,807 --> 01:44:24,233
and people then started to break down
the fences that they'd put up,
9
01:44:24,317 --> 01:44:26,572
and they had to declare it a free festival.
10
01:44:26,656 --> 01:44:29,037
It's a free concert from now on.
12
01:44:33,257 --> 01:44:37,267
I think the first time I realized
something was going on was,
13
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:39,606
you could only get in by helicopter.
14
01:44:39,648 --> 01:44:42,781
And I suddenly thought, "What's this?"
And then you flew over the audience.
15
01:44:42,864 --> 01:44:44,410
It was just amazing to see.
16
01:44:44,451 --> 01:44:47,793
U p until that point, it was
just another gig , another festival.
17
01:44:47,836 --> 01:44:50,634
Around this period ,
there were a lot of festivals going on ,
18
01:44:50,676 --> 01:44:54,477
and all the groups were traveling
to these festivals, you know,
19
01:44:54,561 --> 01:44:57,276
and you'd see everybody
at all the festivals.
20
01:44:57,318 --> 01:45:00,619
It was like a bunch of gypsies
going around at the time, so,
21
01:45:00,660 --> 01:45:02,247
actually, when Woodstock happened,
22
01:45:02,331 --> 01:45:04,670
it was another festival that was going on.
23
01:45:04,712 --> 01:45:06,383
Nobody knew that it would be
24
01:45:06,467 --> 01:45:09,390
the size or the volume of people
that it was.
25
01:45:09,475 --> 01:45:10,602
They were all on pot.
26
01:45:10,685 --> 01:45:12,523
-Well , whatever it is.. .
-It never should have happened.
27
01:45:12,565 --> 01:45:15,323
If pot makes them happy and no trouble,
maybe we ought to put
28
01:45:15,365 --> 01:45:16,660
-all the adults on pot.
-How about the morals?
29
01:45:16,701 --> 01:45:19,375
You want a 15-year-old girl
sleeping in the field in a tent?
30
01:45:19,416 --> 01:45:21,589
What are you , out of your mind?
It never should have happened.
31
01:45:21,673 --> 01:45:25,098
Do you feel bad about the kids
who were killed in Vietnam?
32
01:45:25,181 --> 01:45:27,061
-This has nothing to do with Vietnam .
-That's the same thing.
33
01:45:27,144 --> 01:45:28,941
Nothing at all to do with it.
There's no comparison.
34
01:45:29,024 --> 01:45:32,742
I thought that this was going to
sum up the generation ,
35
01:45:32,909 --> 01:45:35,583
that it had an opportunity to do that.
36
01:45:35,667 --> 01:45:39,134
Even when it was only gonna be 50, 000
or 100, 000 people that came there,
37
01:45:39,217 --> 01:45:40,638
I still thought, "Wow!
38
01:45:40,722 --> 01:45:43,060
"Being on a farm, going back to land,
39
01:45:43,102 --> 01:45:45,943
"Woodstock, you know, all this mix
40
01:45:45,985 --> 01:45:50,413
"and these great musicians who were
singing political songs, you know."
41
01:45:50,455 --> 01:45:53,170
An*ay, this is an organizing song,
42
01:45:53,253 --> 01:45:54,758
and I was happy to find out
43
01:45:54,799 --> 01:45:57,765
that after David had been in jail
for two and a half weeks,
44
01:45:57,807 --> 01:46:01,065
he already had a very,
very good hunger strike going
45
01:46:01,149 --> 01:46:05,201
with 42 federal prisoners,
none of whom were draft people, so...
46
01:46:05,284 --> 01:46:07,247
WADEIGH These were not
just pop groups.
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01:46:07,331 --> 01:46:09,002
I'm very happy to say
48
01:46:09,085 --> 01:46:12,094
we think the people of this country
should be proud of these kids.
49
01:46:12,177 --> 01:46:15,185
Notwithstanding the way they dress
or the way they wear their hair,
50
01:46:15,227 --> 01:46:17,023
that's their own personal business.
51
01:46:17,065 --> 01:46:21,033
But their inner workings,
their inner selves,
52
01:46:21,116 --> 01:46:24,458
their self-demeanor cannot be questioned.
53
01:46:24,543 --> 01:46:27,258
They can't be questioned
as good American citizens.
54
01:46:27,341 --> 01:46:30,181
That's kind of surprising
coming from a cop.
55
01:46:30,223 --> 01:46:32,563
I'm not a cop. I'm a Chief of Police.
56
01:46:32,814 --> 01:46:36,531
Festivals happened
and big shows happened
57
01:46:36,614 --> 01:46:40,458
and corporate rock happened,
but that was a special time.
58
01:46:40,542 --> 01:46:43,925
Nobody got rich at Woodstock. Nobody.
That's cool.
1
01:46:59,733 --> 01:47:01,652
There were
technical issues continuously.
2
01:47:01,694 --> 01:47:04,406
The ineffective cabling on headsets
3
01:47:04,489 --> 01:47:07,451
and trying to keep in touch with the crew,
with the operators.
4
01:47:07,534 --> 01:47:08,869
The roads got overcrowded
5
01:47:08,952 --> 01:47:11,455
and the mechanical systems
couldn't possibly work.
6
01:47:11,663 --> 01:47:14,541
Constantly getting bands ready
to get on stage, getting equipment,
7
01:47:14,666 --> 01:47:17,335
getting everybody in one place
at the right time
8
01:47:17,377 --> 01:47:19,796
to be able to go on with the show
was another...
9
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:23,216
GODSTEIN The pump trucks
for sanitation couldn't get out
10
01:47:23,300 --> 01:47:24,886
and couldn't haul things away.
11
01:47:25,219 --> 01:47:27,388
There were always these little things
that kept coming up.
12
01:47:27,513 --> 01:47:29,640
Things, which days before the show,
13
01:47:29,724 --> 01:47:33,853
we were told we couldn't possibly do,
was utterly illegal.
14
01:47:33,895 --> 01:47:37,440
Mike, what's the worst part
of running one of these things?
15
01:47:37,523 --> 01:47:39,484
I don't know. I don't know.
16
01:47:39,817 --> 01:47:40,902
It was continuous. It was...
17
01:47:40,985 --> 01:47:44,906
As I said , there's no single incident
that stands out that way.
18
01:47:44,989 --> 01:47:47,201
It was just one after another
after another.
19
01:47:47,284 --> 01:47:51,538
I remember seeing
the sun coming up over the stage.
20
01:47:51,580 --> 01:47:54,249
People were hammering and sawing
and things were going on.
21
01:47:54,291 --> 01:47:58,587
I mean , this was Friday morning
and it started in about five hours.
22
01:47:58,670 --> 01:48:00,547
And as I got closer to the stage,
23
01:48:00,589 --> 01:48:04,259
I realized, "My God, how much work
still has to be done."
24
01:48:04,426 --> 01:48:06,762
You know, we were kind of on the fly.
25
01:48:06,845 --> 01:48:11,226
And the idea of the stage
was a round stage cut in half, so to speak,
26
01:48:11,267 --> 01:48:16,022
so that the first half
would be the first band ,
27
01:48:16,105 --> 01:48:19,067
and then the back half
would be the second band
28
01:48:19,108 --> 01:48:20,610
with their gear ready to go.
29
01:48:20,652 --> 01:48:22,612
And the idea would be,
once the first band finished ,
30
01:48:22,695 --> 01:48:24,530
they would turn the platform ,
31
01:48:24,614 --> 01:48:28,034
and then the secondary band
would be in position.
32
01:48:28,117 --> 01:48:31,038
The whole thing was kind of Jerry-rigged.
33
01:48:31,121 --> 01:48:33,874
There were so many people
on stage
34
01:48:33,958 --> 01:48:37,795
watching the existing act
that was on and performing.
35
01:48:37,836 --> 01:48:40,422
The problem was
that they all stood on the turntable,
36
01:48:40,464 --> 01:48:44,468
which was far more weight
than they ever intended to support.
37
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,763
When I was there
and something was wrong ,
38
01:48:47,805 --> 01:48:49,390
and someone said ...
39
01:48:49,558 --> 01:48:54,479
"Get off the turntable elevation
because it's over loaded ."
40
01:48:54,813 --> 01:48:57,816
They attempted to turn this platform
and all the wheels fell off.
42
01:48:59,150 --> 01:49:04,656
And it just sat like that
for the entire three days.
43
01:49:04,781 --> 01:49:07,492
Yeah, I mean, Grace and Janis
and everybody was standing on it,
44
01:49:07,576 --> 01:49:11,163
and you know, you can't really just
sweep them off with a broom , you know.
45
01:49:11,205 --> 01:49:12,999
The best laid plans of mice and men.
46
01:49:14,250 --> 01:49:15,918
MARCELLI NO: I don't even know
how they kept the power on ,
47
01:49:16,002 --> 01:49:18,671
because it really rained on Sunday.
48
01:49:20,464 --> 01:49:22,675
Please move away
from the towers.
49
01:49:22,758 --> 01:49:24,885
Please move away from the towers.
50
01:49:24,969 --> 01:49:26,304
Because the ground was wet,
51
01:49:26,345 --> 01:49:30,182
and because the cables
did run into the audience to the towers...
52
01:49:30,266 --> 01:49:34,688
Some people, at one point, thought that
the power to the towers
53
01:49:35,230 --> 01:49:38,567
was becoming exposed ,
the cables were becoming exposed ,
54
01:49:38,650 --> 01:49:42,154
and that because
there was a field of wet people
55
01:49:42,195 --> 01:49:44,865
that we were suddenly about to
electrocute a half a million people.
56
01:49:44,948 --> 01:49:49,870
I was frightened to death every second .
I didn't want anyone to get hurt.
57
01:49:50,329 --> 01:49:52,831
And then , to hear the stories
of how the stage was sinking.
58
01:49:52,873 --> 01:49:55,877
When we played ,
the stage was collapsing ,
59
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,755
people screaming ,
"The stage is collapsing , the PA is out! "
60
01:49:58,838 --> 01:50:00,381
Everybody was getting shocks.
61
01:50:00,423 --> 01:50:03,384
It was not necessarily
the safest place to be.
62
01:50:03,468 --> 01:50:05,219
You know, things like that would come up,
and you'd have to
63
01:50:05,261 --> 01:50:07,221
sort of suss them out
and see what the reality was,
64
01:50:07,263 --> 01:50:09,057
and then go deal with it.
65
01:50:09,474 --> 01:50:10,975
I think we can be very, very proud
66
01:50:11,059 --> 01:50:14,897
of what we accomplished
in the face of enormous obstacles.
67
01:50:15,397 --> 01:50:18,025
There were so many things
that could've been disastrous,
68
01:50:18,067 --> 01:50:21,570
you know, but it all just made it,
it all just made it.
1
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:38,278
I know I slept in a pile of velour
under the stage at one time.
2
01:50:38,361 --> 01:50:41,949
I had a trailer down at the lake
3
01:50:42,033 --> 01:50:45,369
which was my lighting booth for Newport,
about a 0-footer.
4
01:50:45,620 --> 01:50:50,918
We slept in the back of the tractor trailer
on the floor.
5
01:50:50,959 --> 01:50:52,044
If you could call it sleeping ,
6
01:50:52,085 --> 01:50:54,421
it was a few hours, if that, every night.
7
01:50:54,631 --> 01:50:56,799
Some of the guys in the band ,
I think, actually went back
8
01:50:56,883 --> 01:51:01,012
to whatever facilities they had
for performers to stay at.
9
01:51:01,095 --> 01:51:06,101
But I figured , as long as I was there,
I was gonna, you know, just sort of dive in.
10
01:51:06,393 --> 01:51:10,649
might as well just stay
dirty, and be part of it all , yeah.
11
01:51:11,024 --> 01:51:13,527
When you see
the brown acid announcement,
12
01:51:13,610 --> 01:51:18,407
you can tell by my fingernails
and the color of my hands that, you know,
13
01:51:18,449 --> 01:51:21,285
we didn't get anywhere close
to any water.
14
01:51:21,744 --> 01:51:23,704
I did not, for the record ,
15
01:51:23,788 --> 01:51:27,167
I did not go and swim naked
in the lake. Period.
16
01:51:27,251 --> 01:51:31,964
I think skinny-dipping is just beautiful
if you want to do it, if you can do it.
17
01:51:32,047 --> 01:51:33,633
But some people can't
18
01:51:33,716 --> 01:51:39,222
because their environment made them ,
you know, feel that it's wrong.
19
01:51:42,434 --> 01:51:44,436
I SA A W We had discussions about
20
01:51:44,478 --> 01:51:46,647
how we were gonna feed these people
that were coming.
21
01:51:46,730 --> 01:51:50,694
And we were out scrounging around
some aluminum pots and this and that,
22
01:51:50,777 --> 01:51:51,987
and I looked at the whole scene
23
01:51:52,028 --> 01:51:55,323
and I said , "We don't need to scrounge."
24
01:51:55,408 --> 01:51:59,579
The Hog Farm was able to get
bushels and bushels of brown rice.
25
01:51:59,662 --> 01:52:01,956
Now, that's what they served
at the food booths.
26
01:52:02,498 --> 01:52:06,920
I ended up buying 160, 000 paper plates,
forks, knives and spoons
27
01:52:07,004 --> 01:52:10,132
and about 30, 000 paper cups.
28
01:52:10,173 --> 01:52:14,178
And it's a good thing I did ,
because they all went.
29
01:52:14,262 --> 01:52:15,305
Everything went.
30
01:52:15,346 --> 01:52:20,853
So that's how I figured that we fed
between 160, 000 to 190, 000 people
31
01:52:20,894 --> 01:52:22,688
at the Hog Farm free kitchen.
32
01:52:22,771 --> 01:52:26,651
They would come up and we were
frantically trying to keep things going ,
33
01:52:26,776 --> 01:52:28,820
and someone would just
stick a hot dog in your mouth.
34
01:52:28,862 --> 01:52:31,197
That was about,
maybe one or two hot dogs
35
01:52:31,281 --> 01:52:33,743
was about what we ate
that whole time.
36
01:52:33,826 --> 01:52:37,747
But we didn't care, because we knew
it was something fantastic.
37
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:41,710
At one point, the "Food for ove"
guys, who were our concessionaires,
38
01:52:41,793 --> 01:52:44,338
were running low on hamburgers.
39
01:52:44,379 --> 01:52:47,633
So they raised the prices
from a quarter to a dollar,
40
01:52:47,716 --> 01:52:51,054
and that displeased a bunch of people,
so they went up and burned them down.
41
01:52:51,095 --> 01:52:54,432
Now, there's a guy up there,
some hamburger guy,
42
01:52:54,515 --> 01:52:57,394
that had his stand burned down last night,
43
01:52:58,562 --> 01:53:00,898
but he's still got a little stuff left,
44
01:53:00,981 --> 01:53:05,195
and for you people that still believe
that capitalism isn't that weird,
45
01:53:05,236 --> 01:53:07,822
you might help him out
and buy a couple of hamburgers.
46
01:53:08,156 --> 01:53:11,326
So I went around ,
making sure that there was enough food
47
01:53:11,409 --> 01:53:13,120
for the cooks to use,
48
01:53:13,204 --> 01:53:15,164
and then I would
check on the medical tents.
49
01:53:15,247 --> 01:53:17,667
I was trying to get some rest in that tent,
50
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:19,586
there was a couple of other people
in there with me.
51
01:53:19,670 --> 01:53:22,506
At which point,
52
01:53:22,589 --> 01:53:25,550
one of the medical personnel
came around.
53
01:53:25,592 --> 01:53:28,930
The nurses came around and said ,
"Anybody want a shot?" "Okay."
54
01:53:28,971 --> 01:53:32,600
So they gave us this
really painful vitamin B shot
55
01:53:32,642 --> 01:53:33,643
right in the ass.
56
01:53:33,726 --> 01:53:35,437
And I tried to explain , "I can't, my arms.. ."
57
01:53:35,521 --> 01:53:37,231
He just gave me a shot of B 12.
58
01:53:37,272 --> 01:53:39,441
Oh , Jesus, God , did that hurt!
59
01:53:39,483 --> 01:53:41,276
But it helped , you know.
60
01:53:41,318 --> 01:53:43,947
(*UG H I NG Don't know what it helped
with , but it definitely helped something.
61
01:53:44,030 --> 01:53:45,115
I felt great.
63
01:53:46,282 --> 01:53:47,909
There was a performers' pavilion.
64
01:53:48,159 --> 01:53:50,121
Then , all of a sudden , all that went to hell ,
65
01:53:50,162 --> 01:53:52,498
because they needed it for emergency,
you know.
66
01:53:52,581 --> 01:53:58,588
I had to stand up to
one of the older producers
67
01:53:58,630 --> 01:54:02,134
and say that we had to have the crew tent,
68
01:54:02,175 --> 01:54:04,302
which was where
we were supposed to eat.
69
01:54:04,386 --> 01:54:08,141
We had to convert it into a hospital,
we had no choice.
70
01:54:08,224 --> 01:54:11,102
A lot of kids in town
didn't have anything to eat.
71
01:54:11,144 --> 01:54:13,480
Word went out that everybody
should contribute food.
72
01:54:13,564 --> 01:54:15,983
We went over to the park
73
01:54:16,066 --> 01:54:19,069
and the village permitted
them to camp there.
74
01:54:19,153 --> 01:54:23,199
A police car went up the street here
with a loudspeaker
75
01:54:23,283 --> 01:54:24,534
and told the kids to come up there.
76
01:54:24,617 --> 01:54:27,495
We fed them Saturday night,
all day Sunday.
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01:54:28,247 --> 01:54:30,791
If you got food, feed other people.
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01:54:31,500 --> 01:54:35,380
Bugsy, to the pink and white tent.
Keep feeding each other...
79
01:54:35,464 --> 01:54:38,049
Pretty soon , everybody was taking care
of everybody else,
80
01:54:38,133 --> 01:54:40,177
and that's what Woodstock was about.
81
01:54:40,260 --> 01:54:43,514
...and if you're too tired to chew,
pass it on.
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01:54:45,260 --> 01:54:49,514
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