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-Okay.
-Welcome.
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Hi.
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Thanks for sitting down with us.
We appreciate it.
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Would you recount for me
the incident where you were wounded?
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Well, l was standing. . .
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. . .on the top of this hill
at the aid station. . .
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. . .and a random shell came in.
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lt couldn"t have gone off
more than 1 0 feet away. . .
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. . .because all l remember
is a tremendous blast and a flash.
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And the next thing l knew,
l was on the ground in the snow. . .
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. . .and l tried to get up.
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And when l tried to get up, l. . . .
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Only thing l could see
were the broken ends of my legs.
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And l thought my legs
were gone. l was--
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Because that"s all--
Both femurs were shattered.
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They were laying down here as l was
on my back, trying to raise my legs up.
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And l thought:
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""l"m dead,"" you know,
""l"m about to die. ""
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And l said--
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l said my Act of Contrition,
because l am a Catholic.
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And then the next thing
l thought of was my mother.
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And l thought,
""What"s she gonna say?""
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Because l was an only child.
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My name is C. Carwood Lipton.
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l was born in Huntington, West Virginia.
Grew up in Huntington.
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Frederick T. Heyliger. Concord,
Massachusetts was my hometown.
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l was born in a town named
lnchelium, Washington.
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lt"s on an lndian reservation.
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My name"s J.B. Stokes.
l was born close to Bonham, Texas. . .
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. . .in an area called Leonard.
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Born and raised in Columbus, Ohio. . .
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. . .my dad worked for the railroad.
My mom was a housewife.
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My nickname was Babe.
And my mother. . .
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. . .she was a little lrish broad.
Red hair. Fiery.
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Great woman.
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Born and raised in Philadelphia,
where times were tough.
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Mom had 1 0 children,
so you had to work to survive.
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lt was just survival
in the streets of Philadelphia.
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We came up in the Depression. Sometimes
we"d live on a farm and have. . .
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. . .pigs and raise a garden.
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l saw people that really were hungry
and had hard times.
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My father was able to find employment.
We never went hungry.
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We lived on a farm. Everybody
was poor. That was the Depression.
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When l got to about 1 0,
l got a paper route.
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l made $5 a month. Something like that.
But it was something.
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There"s a work ethic the Pennsylvania
Dutch in this area are very proud of.
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l was the oldest one, so l sort of
branched out on my own at an early age.
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l was married when l was
1 9 years old in 1 941 .
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On December 7 of "41 . . .
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. . .we were in a store,
and a guy, he says:
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""The U.S.A. is in a war with Japan. ""
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And everything just went silent.
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l said, ""Let"s go in the Army. ""
He said, ""l don"t want to. ""
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l said, ""You"re gonna have
to go sooner or later. ""
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Something was wrong with you
if you weren"t in the service.
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lt was what you had to do.
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l wasn"t gonna be in the infantry.
l was gonna be in some. . .
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. . .top kind of a unit,
or l wasn"t gonna be in the Army.
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LIFE magazine had run
an article on paratroopers. . .
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. . .sometime in early 1 942.
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And it told about the
training that they got. . .
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. . .and the difficult physical
requirements, and l got interested. . .
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. . .in seeing if l could
become a paratrooper.
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Nobody forced you to do this,
you volunteered.
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And it was the notion. . .
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. . .that you wanted to do something.
You wanted to be with the best.
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But once you got in there,
you was proud to be.
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We was proud of our boots,
and our shoulder patch.
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And we was proud to be paratroopers.
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And we was proud to be working with
the guys we were working with.
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You know these people
that you"re in service with. . . .
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You know those people better than
anybody in your life.
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You know them right down
to the final thing.
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And that comes when you start
your training, while that progresses.
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-Each man was like a championship boxer.
-Out of 1 00%%%, only 1 0%%% made it.
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-l thought l"d die.
-No holding back.
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-You had to hang in there and be tough.
-We marched 1 1 8 miles in three days.
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The training l got
and the men l trained with. . .
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. . .gave me the confidence
to go into battle.
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We were just a bunch of ordinary kids
when we went in.
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The training was to build you up
physically and mentally.
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Some of them lost as much as 40 pounds.
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But l didn"t have nothing to lose.
l weighed about 1 30.
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lf l lost 40 pounds,
l"d have been too small to stay.
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You know, they weeded out so many.
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They"d be there one day,
and they"d be gone the next.
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They couldn"t keep up with it.
They couldn"t take that hard training.
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You had the cream
of the cream of the cream.
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We had to climb this mountain called
Currahee every morning. Run up and back.
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lf you couldn"t,
you"d end up in another unit.
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The name Currahee means
""We stand alone together. ""
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That"s an lndian name.
lt became a symbol of the camp. . .
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. . .because it was rough and tough,
going up and down.
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A lot of times, when some of the guys
would go and get them a drink or so. . .
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. . .you"d see them laying on the road,
where they were sick.
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lt didn"t matter how hard you trained
and how tired you got. . .
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. . .you would still go out on your own
and run the mountain at night. . .
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. . .which was ridiculous
because during the day. . .
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. . .all you did was bitch and moan.
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At night, they"d get a couple guys
and go up and do it on your own.
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We learned how to be
soldiers at Toccoa. . .
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. . .as a group, all of us coming in. . .
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. . .from no experience
in the Army at all. . .
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. . .coming in directly
from civilian life.
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l"m gonna say this,
l believe. . .
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. . .that the paratroopers
of the 1 01 st Airborne Division. . .
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. . .was as well-trained as you
could get a soldier to be at that time.
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-We packed our own chutes.
-Nervous as hell.
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You"re asking yourself,
""What am l doing here?""
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-Coming down is great.
-lt affects everybody different.
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-l broke my foot.
-You"re dropping 1 6 feet a second.
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l can remember
just like it was yesterday.
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That morning after breakfast. . .
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. . .they marched us all
out there to the airfield.
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There were guys
that already made their jump.
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And they were all hollering,
""You"re gonna be sorry! "" You know?
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You didn"t want
to be afraid, you know. . .
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. . .because these other guys are there
with you. Your bravado and all that. . . .
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You didn"t wanna be afraid,
so you kept that out of your mind.
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Jumping out of a plane wasn"t like
today. My first flight up, l jumped.
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That was years before
l landed an aircraft.
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Most of the troopers
was the same story.
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Foolishly, l didn"t think
it"d be so tough, but. . . .
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The first time-- The first jump
you make is not all that bad.
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You don"t know what you"re doing.
When you step out. . .
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. . .the chute just opened right then.
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As l went out the door, l was blank.
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l cannot remember leaving the plane. . .
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. . .until after the chute
opened up. My God.
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But after that, it wasn"t as bad.
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lt was a thrill.
lt was like going on a roller coaster.
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You get off
and want to get back on.
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lt was a thrill.
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lt was a high, as they say these days.
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Everybody enjoyed themselves.
Landing was the hardest part.
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Once that chute opened,
l was happy as a lark.
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You know, coming down is great.
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l was small too, and l didn"t
hurt myself when l hit the ground.
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Some of the big ones hit
like a ton of-- What"s his name?
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You worried most about your chute.
Did you pack it right?
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You"d pack it one day and jump the next
day. You thought about it all night.
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You had. . .
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. . .ideas of what you might
have done wrong, or. . . .
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But it worked out fine.
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We made five jumps
in the third week there.
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Then you were a qualified paratrooper.
Got your wings pinned on. . .
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. . .and became one of the elite members
of the parachute regiment.
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We were thoroughly prepared.
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The men were. . .
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. . .trained, hardened. . .
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. . .physically and mentally.
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And they were ready to jump.
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That"s how we started
off for Normandy.
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When you walk up that gangplank,
you know you"re gone.
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As you pull out of harbor,
and you pass the Statue of Liberty. . . .
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""Will l ever be coming back?
l don"t know. ""
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You know you"re in a parachute troop.
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You"re gonna be jumping behind
enemy lines. What do you expect?
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You have no idea.
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That"ll make anybody stand. . .
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. . .and search his soul
for a few minutes.
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We were ready.
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We were stationed in England
for about a year before D-Day.
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We had a lot of maneuvers
and parachute jumping.
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They put us in a camp. . .
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. . .preparing us for D-Day.
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At just about a week before D-Day. . .
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. . .they put us in. No liberties, no
nothing. You couldn"t get out of camp.
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They had guards around
the marshaling area. . .
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. . .so nobody could leave.
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That"s when you felt
that, ""This is it. ""
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We did not know which day.
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We did not know where we were
gonna jump until we were locked in.
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And then they had the briefing. . .
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. . .to tell you exactly
what your mission was.
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And they took this map. . .
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. . .and they made a model
of the features of the land.
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They put in all the buildings,
the bridges, the knolls. . .
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. . .all the sand dunes.
Everything was in on that layout.
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We knew it by heart.
We knew where we were going.
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We knew exactly what to do.
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l mean, if you could"ve been there
at the time to see. . .
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. . .where the planes were lined up and
all the gliders hooked up to the planes.
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Tanks and trucks
and fields and fields of them.
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l had no idea that there was
that much hardware.
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No question, we knew
it was gonna be big.
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And that day. . .
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. . .that we got the orders
to get on the planes. . . . This is it.
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We had confidence in our leaders. . .
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. . .and all the plans and preparations
that took place before the invasion.
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We were confident and calm.
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We were all loaded down. We carried
everything we thought we could. . .
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. . .in the line of personal items. . .
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. . .plus the necessary things
we were assigned to carry.
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And we were loaded.
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Everybody got in there. . .
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. . .and a lot of them were
very scared. l was scared too. . .
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. . .but probably in a different way
that other people were.
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As long as l was in that plane. . .
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. . .and they were gonna
get me there safely. . .
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. . .that"s all that l worried about.
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At the time,
l had no feeling whatsoever.
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My feeling was for my brother,
who was killed.
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That infuriated me.
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And that"s why, when l jumped
on D-Day, l swore. . . .
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l swore l would kill every damn
German l came across.
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That"s why they nicknamed me
Wild Bill. l killed a lot on D-Day.
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The sky was clear,
coming across the channel.
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Since l was jump master, l could lie
at the plane door with my head out. . .
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. . .in the slipstream, looking down.
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And l saw the thousands
of craft ships. . .
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. . .everything from LCls
to battleships. . .
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. . .down there in the channel.
l think that"s when l first realized. . .
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. . .how large the invasion was.
Tremendously large, the invasion was.
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We were out for 1 1 /2 hours before we--
We went down the south end of England. . .
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. . .and then across
the Jersey islands. . .
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. . .and then across
the Cherbourg peninsula.
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And that"s when
the fireworks started.
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Flak was terrible.
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Anti-aircraft was absolutely horrendous.
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lt was like. . .
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. . .a July the 4th celebration,
1 0 times over.
223
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Then it would hit
under the wings and body. . .
224
00:18:15,775 --> 00:18:20,769
. . .and you could hear it go. . .like
gravel hitting a car fender.
225
00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:23,045
You could see
tracers all over.
226
00:18:23,255 --> 00:18:26,292
Everybody wanted
to get out of the plane fast.
227
00:18:26,455 --> 00:18:30,243
Whether it was high, low,
no matter where we were. Out!
228
00:18:30,455 --> 00:18:32,685
They were getting shot up.
229
00:18:32,895 --> 00:18:36,251
Finally, the pilots--
l happened to read their minds--
230
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""Okay, we got so much gas. . .
231
00:18:39,055 --> 00:18:43,765
. . .and we"re gonna have
to get back to England.
232
00:18:43,975 --> 00:18:46,728
What do we do with all
the guys back here?
233
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Give them the green light. Get out. ""
234
00:18:49,495 --> 00:18:50,928
We"re ready to jump.
235
00:18:51,135 --> 00:18:56,414
There was a relief when the green
light came on, and we said, ""Let"s go. ""
236
00:18:56,615 --> 00:18:58,845
Well, l jumped up on a run. . .
237
00:18:59,095 --> 00:19:03,805
. . .and hit the static line
with the hook and out the door. . .
238
00:19:04,575 --> 00:19:07,885
. . .and got such an opening shock. . .
239
00:19:08,055 --> 00:19:11,934
. . .from the prop blast,
that it broke this chin strap. . .
240
00:19:12,175 --> 00:19:14,735
. . .that we had on this helmet liner.
241
00:19:14,975 --> 00:19:20,333
And that"s when l lost this famous
leg bag that everybody talks about. . .
242
00:19:20,535 --> 00:19:26,326
. . .just from the shock of the opening.
lt just flew right off my foot.
243
00:19:26,535 --> 00:19:29,208
The British call them leg bags.
244
00:19:29,455 --> 00:19:34,006
They gotta be this big, and you
stuff everything you can into them.
245
00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:39,414
They"re supposed to weigh 1 5 pounds.
By the time you"re done, they"re 60.
246
00:19:39,615 --> 00:19:43,210
Everyone that jumped
with a leg bag, they lost it.
247
00:19:43,455 --> 00:19:47,448
Most of the paratroopers
that landed didn"t have nothing.
248
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l was one of them.
249
00:19:49,455 --> 00:19:51,047
lt tore right off. . .
250
00:19:51,735 --> 00:19:55,967
. . .because we jumped at speeds
of 1 50 miles an hour. . .
251
00:19:56,135 --> 00:19:58,330
. . .maybe even higher. l don"t know.
252
00:19:58,535 --> 00:20:01,003
And lower than we should"ve been.
253
00:20:01,215 --> 00:20:05,447
That wasn"t bad either,
because you got to the ground quicker.
254
00:20:05,655 --> 00:20:09,967
When we went out the door, l looked
to see if my chute was open. . .
255
00:20:10,135 --> 00:20:13,332
. . .and l saw tracer bullets
burning holes in the chute.
256
00:20:13,535 --> 00:20:18,848
And they told us all you"ll have to do
is shuffle up to the door. . .
257
00:20:19,095 --> 00:20:23,691
. . .throw that leg out, prop blast
will hit it, and you"re gone.
258
00:20:24,695 --> 00:20:26,845
Well, they were right.
259
00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:30,724
Only l was going out,
and my leg was in. . .
260
00:20:30,975 --> 00:20:34,012
. . .and l was hanging upside down. . .
261
00:20:34,255 --> 00:20:38,009
. . .looking at everything down
with my leg in the plane.
262
00:20:38,215 --> 00:20:42,003
All this happened in a split second.
Paul rolled me out.
263
00:20:42,215 --> 00:20:44,012
Paul Rogers rolled me out.
264
00:20:44,215 --> 00:20:49,812
l just helped him out. l just picked
him up and threw him out, l guess.
265
00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:53,132
l had to get out.
We wanted to get out so bad.
266
00:20:53,335 --> 00:20:56,611
And l come down
right behind city hall. . .
267
00:20:56,815 --> 00:21:01,206
. . .watched them shoot at me all the way,
which wasn"t very long.
268
00:21:01,455 --> 00:21:07,166
l could see the tracers. They were
kind of spraying around in the air.
269
00:21:07,575 --> 00:21:13,013
Whoever the machine gunner was down
there that was concentrating on me. . .
270
00:21:13,175 --> 00:21:15,689
. . .apparently was
not a very good shot.
271
00:21:15,895 --> 00:21:18,614
They were firing in every direction.
272
00:21:18,815 --> 00:21:22,171
You don"t know which way to go.
273
00:21:22,375 --> 00:21:26,891
The next thing is that you are
getting close to landing. . .
274
00:21:27,095 --> 00:21:31,327
. . .and you"re saying, ""There"s
some trees. There"s a road.
275
00:21:31,575 --> 00:21:37,525
Try and slip to avoid the trees. Try
and slip to avoid landing on the road. ""
276
00:21:37,735 --> 00:21:42,126
l slipped and my chute fell across
power lines, and l hit a fence. . .
277
00:21:42,335 --> 00:21:45,611
. . .and fell into a farmer"s garden.
278
00:21:45,855 --> 00:21:49,609
l"ll never forget that fence.
lt had glass on top of it. . .
279
00:21:49,815 --> 00:21:53,410
. . .and cut me up,
but that didn"t bother me.
280
00:21:53,655 --> 00:21:57,443
l just-- l was down,
and l got down with my gun.
281
00:21:58,495 --> 00:22:03,125
l hit the ground in a field, and we
were way-- l got looking at my map. . .
282
00:22:03,375 --> 00:22:07,846
. . .and we weren"t close to where
we were supposed to be.
283
00:22:08,095 --> 00:22:11,531
We was plumb off our maps
that they"d given us.
284
00:22:11,775 --> 00:22:15,654
So we had to make our way back.
We knew that the beach. . .
285
00:22:15,895 --> 00:22:21,413
. . .was to the east. We headed that way
to find out where the outfit was.
286
00:22:21,975 --> 00:22:26,810
My friend from Erie
was in another plane.
287
00:22:27,015 --> 00:22:32,135
When l hit the ground, l hit about
2 feet away from him.
288
00:22:32,375 --> 00:22:37,210
And him and l start walking around
looking for more of our troops.
289
00:22:37,455 --> 00:22:42,404
And we were running into Germans
everywhere, but we had to hide.
290
00:22:42,655 --> 00:22:47,809
You know, because if we didn"t,
we were dead meat.
291
00:22:48,375 --> 00:22:52,607
And l laid in a tree.
l had my trench knife.
292
00:22:52,815 --> 00:22:56,012
And l reached up. . .
293
00:22:56,255 --> 00:23:01,010
. . .and grabbed hold-- lt was a big
trunk, the tree, and l swung into it.
294
00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:06,124
l cut those risers with,
l think, one swipe.
295
00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:09,128
And l come down that
tree like a monkey.
296
00:23:09,335 --> 00:23:13,123
And then there l was
with a trench knife and a canteen. . .
297
00:23:13,335 --> 00:23:17,010
. . .and about six candy bars
in my pocket. . .
298
00:23:17,215 --> 00:23:21,367
. . .ready to fight
the German army, you know.
299
00:23:22,215 --> 00:23:26,413
So there"s four guys
that were with me on D-Day. . .
300
00:23:26,615 --> 00:23:30,813
. . .who didn"t have nothing
but a jump knife when they landed.
301
00:23:31,015 --> 00:23:35,213
So we had to hope, scrounge.
302
00:23:36,375 --> 00:23:38,445
As it worked out for all of us. . .
303
00:23:38,655 --> 00:23:42,489
. . .later on, we"d run across somebody
who had been killed. . .
304
00:23:42,695 --> 00:23:44,651
. . .and you"d take his weapon.
305
00:23:44,895 --> 00:23:48,854
And that"s how you get
a weapon for D-Day.
306
00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:50,448
Rather haphazard.
307
00:23:50,695 --> 00:23:53,812
We were scattered
all over the peninsula. . .
308
00:23:54,055 --> 00:23:57,604
. . .so it was quite
a confused situation. . .
309
00:23:57,815 --> 00:24:01,364
. . .but we were better prepared
than the Germans were.
310
00:24:01,575 --> 00:24:04,135
The Germans didn"t know
where we were.
311
00:24:04,335 --> 00:24:08,044
Whereas on the beach,
those people coming in on boats. . .
312
00:24:08,295 --> 00:24:12,083
. . .those Germans had guns
aimed at them, waiting on them.
313
00:24:12,295 --> 00:24:16,288
They had it tough.
l admire every one of them.
314
00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:28,089
These guns were pointed
and firing right down on the beach.
315
00:24:30,295 --> 00:24:36,404
People on the landing craft were coming
onto the beach and were being fired at.
316
00:24:48,415 --> 00:24:53,205
This battery of 1 05s was placed
precisely where it should be. . .
317
00:24:53,415 --> 00:24:57,488
. . .to protect any troops
coming up that causeway.
318
00:24:58,935 --> 00:25:01,927
As you sit back years later,
you think:
319
00:25:02,175 --> 00:25:05,963
""This was laid out
exactly right, tactically. ""
320
00:25:17,295 --> 00:25:20,367
We thought we knew
every foxhole in Normandy.
321
00:25:20,575 --> 00:25:23,851
We knew where everything was.
We knew it cold.
322
00:25:24,095 --> 00:25:28,134
But on this one, the Germans
had moved in there. . .
323
00:25:28,375 --> 00:25:33,210
. . .and camouflaged it so well,
we didn"t know it was there.
324
00:25:45,615 --> 00:25:49,005
E Company was the assault company
of the battalion.
325
00:25:49,255 --> 00:25:54,329
We were trained from special assaults
and whatnot, special assignments.
326
00:25:54,575 --> 00:26:00,013
They weren"t aware of what we had. They
didn"t realize we only had 1 2 people.
327
00:26:00,255 --> 00:26:03,531
We worked our way down
through the farm area. . .
328
00:26:03,735 --> 00:26:08,490
. . .to a hedgerow. Lt. Winters
had us set up a firing position.
329
00:26:08,895 --> 00:26:12,649
And l went up
to scout it for myself. . .
330
00:26:12,895 --> 00:26:15,728
. . .crawled out along this hedgerow. . .
331
00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:21,686
. . .to get a little closer, to look it
over, and l felt l could see a trench.
332
00:26:22,095 --> 00:26:25,326
And l thought l knew
where our machine gun was.
333
00:26:25,575 --> 00:26:26,928
Winters. . .
334
00:26:27,135 --> 00:26:30,013
. . .was an exceptional leader.
335
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:34,612
And he was able to size up,
all through the war. . .
336
00:26:34,815 --> 00:26:39,445
. . .size up combat situations
and decide quickly. . .
337
00:26:39,695 --> 00:26:44,769
. . .and correctly the best way to take
care of whatever the problem was.
338
00:26:44,975 --> 00:26:49,605
l divided the group into two units.
Lt. Compton was with me.
339
00:26:49,855 --> 00:26:52,574
l gave him half the men,
and l took half.
340
00:26:53,615 --> 00:26:58,848
l gave instructions, ""l want
Compton, Malarkey. . .
341
00:26:59,055 --> 00:27:04,004
. . .and Wynn to crawl up there
and hand-grenade that machine gun.
342
00:27:04,255 --> 00:27:09,648
Crawl through the grass,
and as you throw your grenades. . .
343
00:27:09,815 --> 00:27:12,693
. . .l"ll charge up
with the rest of the guys. ""
344
00:27:12,855 --> 00:27:15,244
l had the two machine guns set up. . .
345
00:27:15,415 --> 00:27:19,203
. . .to give him covering fire
while he crawled up there.
346
00:27:19,415 --> 00:27:21,610
l get out to this hedgerow. . .
347
00:27:21,815 --> 00:27:26,013
. . .and l peek-- l look out,
and l peek through the bushes. . .
348
00:27:26,215 --> 00:27:31,733
. . .and l see a couple of Germans
over there, about 30, 50 yards away. . .
349
00:27:31,975 --> 00:27:34,808
. . .stoking this gun and firing it.
350
00:27:36,535 --> 00:27:39,095
l pull out a grenade
and pull the pin. . .
351
00:27:39,255 --> 00:27:43,851
. . .and l threw it as high
and as far as l could throw it. . .
352
00:27:44,015 --> 00:27:48,008
. . .in their general direction.
lt had enough hang time on it. . .
353
00:27:48,175 --> 00:27:52,293
. . .that by the time it got to them,
it went off in the air.
354
00:27:52,495 --> 00:27:55,567
l jumped up with other guys,
and we charged. . .
355
00:27:55,775 --> 00:28:00,485
. . .so that we all jumped into
the first position together.
356
00:28:00,815 --> 00:28:05,206
They had trenches cut in where
they worked, the Germans did.
357
00:28:05,415 --> 00:28:07,724
They jumped down
in them trenches. . .
358
00:28:07,975 --> 00:28:11,490
. . .and they worked them Germans
like a ghost assault.
359
00:28:11,695 --> 00:28:16,405
Three Germans broke off
from this position. . .
360
00:28:17,095 --> 00:28:21,611
. . .to run across the field,
which was the wrong thing to do. . .
361
00:28:21,775 --> 00:28:23,288
. . .from their viewpoint.
362
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:26,173
We cut them down.
363
00:28:26,655 --> 00:28:31,126
l was in a trench, and l looked,
and l saw an arm.
364
00:28:31,375 --> 00:28:34,924
l didn"t even see-- The man
was in a camouflage tent. . .
365
00:28:35,175 --> 00:28:39,487
. . .and l didn"t see him. Then l saw
an arm stuck out of that tent. . .
366
00:28:39,695 --> 00:28:42,414
. . .and one of those
potato-masher grenades. . .
367
00:28:42,655 --> 00:28:46,011
. . .you know, with a stick
come out of there.
368
00:28:46,255 --> 00:28:48,052
l said,
""He"s gonna miss me. ""
369
00:28:48,295 --> 00:28:51,332
lt fell right down
in that trench with me.
370
00:28:51,575 --> 00:28:55,648
l was trying to scuttle my way
out of the way, and it went off. . .
371
00:28:55,895 --> 00:29:00,685
. . .and l felt like it blew my butt
over my head, and it pretty near did.
372
00:29:01,055 --> 00:29:05,048
He"s behind the enemy lines on D-Day.
373
00:29:05,255 --> 00:29:07,610
Does he holler, ""Help""?
374
00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:09,009
No.
375
00:29:09,215 --> 00:29:14,892
He hollers, ""l"m sorry, lieutenant.
l"m sorry. l goofed. ""
376
00:29:15,375 --> 00:29:21,007
l felt like l kind of let him down,
but that"s neither here nor there.
377
00:29:21,215 --> 00:29:23,604
My God.
378
00:29:26,615 --> 00:29:32,611
lt"s beautiful when you
think of a guy who"s. . .
379
00:29:33,215 --> 00:29:38,209
. . .so dedicated to his company,
to his buddies. . .
380
00:29:38,455 --> 00:29:43,734
. . .that he apologizes for getting hit,
but that"s the kind of guy he was.
381
00:29:43,975 --> 00:29:48,127
That"s the kind each one of them was.
They were all the same.
382
00:29:54,975 --> 00:29:58,934
l look upon them,
each man, with great respect.
383
00:29:59,175 --> 00:30:01,291
Respect l can"t describe.
384
00:30:02,015 --> 00:30:02,455
Each one of them proved himself. . .
385
00:30:02,455 --> 00:30:05,208
Each one of them proved himself. . .
386
00:30:06,295 --> 00:30:08,251
. . .that he. . .
387
00:30:08,495 --> 00:30:10,645
. . .could do the job.
388
00:30:17,735 --> 00:30:21,853
We"ve been through Normandy, through
battle. Maybe if l had been harder. . .
389
00:30:22,095 --> 00:30:27,169
. . .if l had done a little bit better job,
more men would"ve gone home.
390
00:30:41,095 --> 00:30:44,326
l never thought
l"d get through D-Day. . .
391
00:30:44,575 --> 00:30:49,729
. . .let alone the next phase. l thought
l was gonna get killed instantly.
392
00:30:50,655 --> 00:30:53,089
The chances of survival is very slim.
393
00:30:59,055 --> 00:31:01,250
There"s the parachute.
394
00:31:01,495 --> 00:31:06,046
l got that done
in Edinburgh, Scotland, 1 944.
395
00:31:06,295 --> 00:31:08,604
Me and Johnny Martin.
396
00:31:08,815 --> 00:31:10,373
Drunk as a skunk.
397
00:31:10,695 --> 00:31:16,930
Guarnere and l decided
we"d go to Scotland and get a tattoo.
398
00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:21,009
We didn"t figure
we had a chance to come home.
399
00:31:24,015 --> 00:31:25,607
But. . . .
400
00:31:26,855 --> 00:31:28,607
Yep.
401
00:31:28,775 --> 00:31:30,413
We thought, ""Well, hell. . .
402
00:31:30,615 --> 00:31:36,008
. . .the war is just starting, and Christ,
we"re 50%%% gone now.
403
00:31:36,215 --> 00:31:38,410
So it"s a long haul. ""
404
00:31:44,815 --> 00:31:48,046
The 1 01 st came back from Normandy
after about 33 days. . .
405
00:31:48,215 --> 00:31:51,764
. . .and we were replacements
for those who were killed. . .
406
00:31:51,935 --> 00:31:54,130
. . .or wounded in Normandy.
407
00:31:55,095 --> 00:31:58,246
There were young kids that came in. . .
408
00:31:58,495 --> 00:32:01,612
. . .and for some reason,
l don"t know why. . .
409
00:32:02,495 --> 00:32:04,725
. . .they were the first ones killed.
410
00:32:04,975 --> 00:32:07,933
And l think maybe
they were trying. . .
411
00:32:08,175 --> 00:32:13,807
. . .to impress the older guys,
maybe people like me or Shifty.
412
00:32:14,015 --> 00:32:18,566
We were in awe of them. They had
infantry badges on their uniform.
413
00:32:18,775 --> 00:32:23,007
They had a star on their
jump wings. They. . . .
414
00:32:24,055 --> 00:32:27,525
They were our heroes.
That"s how we looked at them.
415
00:32:28,175 --> 00:32:31,406
l don"t know why, but l got
right there to where. . .
416
00:32:31,615 --> 00:32:36,086
. . .l didn"t want to be friendly
with replacements coming in. . .
417
00:32:36,295 --> 00:32:40,208
. . .because, God, l didn"t like
seeing them get killed.
418
00:32:40,455 --> 00:32:43,527
lt just tore me up, and. . . .
419
00:32:44,655 --> 00:32:48,204
l don"t know why, but they
were the first ones killed.
420
00:32:48,455 --> 00:32:52,084
My 1 0-man squad that l was in,
eight were replacements.
421
00:32:52,255 --> 00:32:55,531
The squad leader and
the assistant squad leader. . .
422
00:32:55,695 --> 00:33:00,007
. . .Sgt. Muck and Cpl. Penkala
had been to Normandy. We hadn"t.
423
00:33:00,255 --> 00:33:03,884
The eight of us hadn"t
been anywhere but Aldbourne.
424
00:33:04,095 --> 00:33:08,247
The training got really tough
between there and the Holland jump.
425
00:33:08,415 --> 00:33:10,406
Training, training, training.
426
00:33:10,575 --> 00:33:13,487
We had missions scratched.
We were to jump on. . .
427
00:33:13,655 --> 00:33:15,532
. . .a French city of Touraine.
428
00:33:15,735 --> 00:33:17,930
And it got to the sand-table part. . .
429
00:33:18,095 --> 00:33:21,610
. . .where we gathered round
to see who was gonna do what. . .
430
00:33:21,815 --> 00:33:26,605
. . .and Patton"s troops overran
the drop zone, so that was called off.
431
00:33:26,815 --> 00:33:32,811
We were wondering if we"d ever get to
go, and then it got to be September.
432
00:33:39,495 --> 00:33:45,252
lt was a Sunday afternoon,
noontime, 70 degrees.
433
00:33:45,495 --> 00:33:47,406
The drop was perfect.
434
00:33:47,655 --> 00:33:50,886
Everybody was dropping
on the same field.
435
00:33:51,095 --> 00:33:55,805
Daytime drops are a lot easier.
You can prepare for the landing.
436
00:33:55,975 --> 00:33:59,809
l saw a plowed field,
and l slipped right over it.
437
00:34:00,055 --> 00:34:05,288
l believe l almost landed standing up,
you know, soft. A great jump.
438
00:34:05,495 --> 00:34:09,283
The most dangerous part about it
was that people were. . .
439
00:34:09,495 --> 00:34:14,615
. . .losing helmets and equipment, and
all this equipment"s raining down. . .
440
00:34:14,775 --> 00:34:18,085
. . .and if you got hit with this,
you"re gonna be killed. . .
441
00:34:18,255 --> 00:34:20,894
. . .or wounded before you
got off the drop zone.
442
00:34:21,055 --> 00:34:25,253
Everybody got together.
We all assembled very fast.
443
00:34:25,495 --> 00:34:29,010
We moved out towards
the Wilhelmina Canal.
444
00:34:29,175 --> 00:34:34,613
Our mission was, first, to take
a bridge over the Wilhelmina Canal.
445
00:34:34,815 --> 00:34:37,613
lt took us hours to get there.
446
00:34:37,775 --> 00:34:41,404
And taking hours to get there,
the few German troops. . .
447
00:34:41,655 --> 00:34:46,012
. . .that were securing this bridge
had plenty of time. . .
448
00:34:46,215 --> 00:34:49,048
. . .to set their charges
to blow the thing up.
449
00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:53,487
And just as we got to it,
l was maybe 1 50 yards away. . .
450
00:34:53,655 --> 00:34:55,850
. . .it blew up in our faces.
451
00:35:00,135 --> 00:35:04,492
Rocks and timbers were flying
and falling all around you. . .
452
00:35:04,655 --> 00:35:10,446
. . .and you can"t help but think,
""My God, what a way to die in combat. . .
453
00:35:10,615 --> 00:35:14,893
. . .to be killed with a flying timber. ""
454
00:35:15,855 --> 00:35:17,413
We were that close.
455
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:22,086
lt delayed us until morning.
We wanted to get across that night. . .
456
00:35:22,295 --> 00:35:26,527
. . .but it took us till
the next morning to get across.
457
00:35:26,775 --> 00:35:30,893
But once we got in, the Dutch--
458
00:35:31,895 --> 00:35:34,614
lt was just marvelous, their reaction.
459
00:35:34,855 --> 00:35:38,131
They loved Americans, and still do. . .
460
00:35:38,375 --> 00:35:43,608
. . .for coming in there
and pushing the Germans out.
461
00:35:50,015 --> 00:35:53,325
They called us ""angels
from the sky,"" which we were.
462
00:35:53,575 --> 00:35:58,410
l mean, you"re under German
occupation for four years, right?
463
00:35:58,615 --> 00:36:02,085
lt"s horrible, and you see
paratroopers come out of the sky.
464
00:36:03,295 --> 00:36:07,049
Who were they? They were the angels.
They loved you.
465
00:36:07,295 --> 00:36:09,729
Their welcome was unbelievable.
466
00:36:09,975 --> 00:36:15,607
They couldn"t restrain
how happy they were to see you.
467
00:36:15,815 --> 00:36:18,454
lt was hard to get
down the streets. . .
468
00:36:18,655 --> 00:36:21,215
. . .because the people
were swarming over us. . .
469
00:36:21,415 --> 00:36:24,009
. . .trying to congratulate us
for being there.
470
00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:27,764
They hugged you and kissed you,
and we didn"t mind.
471
00:36:27,975 --> 00:36:30,853
Naturally, we was young,
We didn"t mind at all.
472
00:36:31,295 --> 00:36:34,605
And they were really proud
to see us in there. . .
473
00:36:34,855 --> 00:36:38,530
. . .to the point where it
was dangerous for us. . .
474
00:36:38,775 --> 00:36:42,529
. . .trying to clean out the town
because snipers did damage. . .
475
00:36:42,695 --> 00:36:44,765
. . .in a situation like that.
476
00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:01,652
We had a lot of fighting
because we"re on the Rhine River. . .
477
00:37:01,815 --> 00:37:03,965
. . .and Germany is across the river.
478
00:37:04,175 --> 00:37:07,804
They"re fighting like heck
to keep us out of Germany.
479
00:37:08,095 --> 00:37:13,806
lt"s called ""The lsland. "" We called it
The lsland, and we set up. . .
480
00:37:14,295 --> 00:37:16,490
. . .positions there.
481
00:37:16,655 --> 00:37:20,204
We had some substantial battles there.
482
00:37:20,735 --> 00:37:24,648
They could observe any movement
we made during the daytime. . .
483
00:37:24,855 --> 00:37:28,006
. . .and at their will. . .
484
00:37:28,175 --> 00:37:32,930
. . .they could just shell us. Mortar--
Put mortar fire on us. . .
485
00:37:33,135 --> 00:37:36,764
. . .when they had
a target of opportunity.
486
00:37:36,975 --> 00:37:39,205
l heard something coming down.
487
00:37:39,415 --> 00:37:41,451
l knew what it was. . .
488
00:37:41,695 --> 00:37:46,485
. . .a mortar shell, and l threw
my arm up, like that. . .and went down.
489
00:37:46,655 --> 00:37:49,123
lt lit within 3 feet of me, 4.
490
00:37:49,375 --> 00:37:54,324
But when it blows,
it goes up like that:
491
00:37:54,575 --> 00:37:59,695
lt went through my arm and hit me in
the head. l was bleeding pretty good.
492
00:37:59,895 --> 00:38:02,853
Well, l was picked to go up on a dike.
493
00:38:03,095 --> 00:38:08,647
So, of course, when you get
to the top, you don"t expose yourself.
494
00:38:08,855 --> 00:38:11,847
l took my rifle
and put my helmet on it. . .
495
00:38:12,095 --> 00:38:18,091
. . .and put it over, even with
the road, on a dike.
496
00:38:18,255 --> 00:38:21,930
No action, so l brought it back down,
put the helmet on. . .
497
00:38:22,095 --> 00:38:23,926
. . .and l sort of peeked over.
498
00:38:24,135 --> 00:38:29,687
When l peeked over, l saw a hand with
a potato masher, and he threw it at me.
499
00:38:29,855 --> 00:38:32,608
l ducked. lt hit my helmet
and bounced off.
500
00:38:32,775 --> 00:38:37,644
When that thing bounced off my helmet,
l hollered to the guys below:
501
00:38:37,815 --> 00:38:39,009
""Live grenade. ""
502
00:38:39,215 --> 00:38:41,809
lf Lesniewski hadn"t
hollered, ""Grenade"" . . .
503
00:38:41,975 --> 00:38:45,524
. . .and l had enough sense to know
that that"s that grenade. . .
504
00:38:45,695 --> 00:38:51,292
. . .that hit my rifle and is right
in front of my face, practically. . .
505
00:38:51,455 --> 00:38:53,969
. . .l"d have either
had my head blown off. . .
506
00:38:54,175 --> 00:38:58,805
. . .or l"d have definitely been blinded.
There"s no question about that. . .
507
00:38:59,055 --> 00:39:02,092
. . .because l just got turned,
just part way. . .
508
00:39:02,255 --> 00:39:06,851
. . .and it exploded, and it
caught me in the face, neck. . .
509
00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:10,053
. . .left arm, under the arm,
in the shoulder.
510
00:39:10,255 --> 00:39:14,294
l hollered for them to take off.
l said, ""Get the hell back. ""
511
00:39:14,455 --> 00:39:18,448
l had eight grenades,
so l had taken them off. . .
512
00:39:18,615 --> 00:39:21,049
. . .pulled the pins
and threw them over.
513
00:39:21,295 --> 00:39:27,643
And while the grenades were rolling
down or landing wherever they were. . .
514
00:39:27,815 --> 00:39:30,454
. . .they were hitting
some of the Krauts. . .
515
00:39:30,695 --> 00:39:33,528
. . .because l could hear
screaming, crying.
516
00:39:33,775 --> 00:39:37,688
l think l threw eight grenades
in about four seconds.
517
00:39:37,895 --> 00:39:40,170
And then l took off running.
518
00:39:40,335 --> 00:39:44,044
So the doctor that counted
the holes in me down at Nijmegen. . . .
519
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,728
Yeah, Nijmegen.
520
00:39:45,895 --> 00:39:49,729
The first doctor that
really counted the holes. . .
521
00:39:49,895 --> 00:39:52,090
. . .said there was 32.
522
00:39:52,255 --> 00:39:57,852
That was our first experience
with artillery in large numbers.
523
00:39:58,015 --> 00:40:03,965
l can remember sitting there a couple
of nights listening to artillery land.
524
00:40:06,255 --> 00:40:11,613
And the 88 was the fiercest
cannon that the Germans had.
525
00:40:11,775 --> 00:40:14,847
lt was the way they used it,
an all-purpose gun.
526
00:40:15,015 --> 00:40:19,008
lt could shoot anti-aircraft tanks,
anti-personnel, airburst.
527
00:40:19,175 --> 00:40:21,928
That was the bad ones,
when shells went up.
528
00:40:23,615 --> 00:40:29,053
l saw a huge mushroom cloud. . .
529
00:40:31,495 --> 00:40:33,053
. . .from the shell. . .
530
00:40:33,615 --> 00:40:36,925
. . .and Joe Toye stepped out of it.
531
00:40:37,095 --> 00:40:40,451
l run up. l remember that
like it was yesterday.
532
00:40:40,615 --> 00:40:45,291
l run up, and l grabbed him.
He said, ""Don"t touch me. ""
533
00:40:45,455 --> 00:40:51,087
l said, ""What"s the matter?"" He said,
""l"m hit all over. "" He said, ""l"m bad. ""
534
00:40:51,255 --> 00:40:54,292
l said, ""Okay. ""
l said, ""l"m gonna go see Jim. ""
535
00:40:54,455 --> 00:41:00,928
He said, as bad as he was hurting,
Joe Toye, he said:
536
00:41:01,535 --> 00:41:07,087
""Heffron, l already
checked him. He"s gone. ""
537
00:41:13,335 --> 00:41:18,614
Jim Campbell might be alive today
if he hadn"t said to me:
538
00:41:18,775 --> 00:41:23,371
""Heffron, you stay here with your gun.
539
00:41:23,775 --> 00:41:25,845
l"m going up. ""
540
00:41:28,815 --> 00:41:34,845
And l never, never, never--
l sleep on it, l eat on it--
541
00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:39,851
l never, never forgot that.
542
00:41:41,375 --> 00:41:44,173
And anybody that went through it. . .
543
00:41:44,335 --> 00:41:49,568
. . .will tell you the same thing.
They can"t--
544
00:41:51,015 --> 00:41:52,892
lt"s just. . .
545
00:41:54,015 --> 00:41:59,533
. . .so bad all your life, you gotta
remember what one guy did. . .
546
00:41:59,695 --> 00:42:05,565
. . .because he thought it was his
job to do, and he took a shot for you.
547
00:42:16,615 --> 00:42:20,085
The exhaustion on these men,
the physical exhaustion. . .
548
00:42:20,255 --> 00:42:25,329
. . .affects their endurance
to be able to cope.
549
00:42:25,695 --> 00:42:29,370
You don"t realize it at the time
you come off the line. . .
550
00:42:29,535 --> 00:42:34,814
. . .from living in the mud
and being absolutely miserable. . .
551
00:42:34,975 --> 00:42:38,012
. . .for 70 days straight.
552
00:42:38,215 --> 00:42:41,651
You didn"t realize
that you"d only be off the line. . .
553
00:42:41,815 --> 00:42:46,047
. . .for a few days, and you"re
gonna be facing Bastogne.
554
00:42:52,015 --> 00:42:57,806
This is the last desperate
action of the Germans. . .
555
00:42:57,975 --> 00:43:01,445
. . .to turn the tide of this whole war.
556
00:43:45,815 --> 00:43:49,012
What it is, it is Bastogne. lt is--
557
00:43:49,175 --> 00:43:54,124
-This is Bo Jack"s woods, right?
-lt is the woods.
558
00:43:54,295 --> 00:43:57,253
Sure looks different now.
There ain"t no snow.
559
00:43:58,815 --> 00:44:01,204
These trees might"ve been replanted.
560
00:44:01,375 --> 00:44:06,654
l think if the trees look
like they did in "44 or "45. . .
561
00:44:06,815 --> 00:44:09,409
. . .we could get a better idea.
562
00:44:10,175 --> 00:44:13,087
-That"s it.
-Yeah.
563
00:44:14,375 --> 00:44:15,933
That"s the town of Foy.
564
00:44:16,695 --> 00:44:20,893
Oh, this is definitely the area.
This is definitely.
565
00:44:21,655 --> 00:44:27,571
There"s the town of Foy, after the empty
field, where those cattle are grazing.
566
00:44:27,735 --> 00:44:29,214
About half a mile away.
567
00:44:29,375 --> 00:44:33,891
Yeah, we had an outpost set up
looking right into the town of Foy.
568
00:44:34,055 --> 00:44:38,731
They had to watch everything
because we"d come in here and sleep.
569
00:44:38,895 --> 00:44:43,685
We had our foxholes right over here,
and the other area and the other.
570
00:44:43,855 --> 00:44:47,609
Wherever we had to move out
and dig in again. . .
571
00:44:47,775 --> 00:44:50,414
. . .because the Krauts had artillery.
572
00:44:50,575 --> 00:44:53,726
Most intense l ever
went through here, shelling.
573
00:44:53,895 --> 00:44:58,332
Most intense in the world. Couldn"t
believe it. You had to be here.
574
00:44:58,495 --> 00:45:01,885
You just dove in the hole
and prayed, and that"s it.
575
00:45:02,055 --> 00:45:04,615
lf it comes in,
you ain"t gonna know it.
576
00:45:04,775 --> 00:45:09,485
We lost Muck and Penkala over on this
side. They were killed instantly.
577
00:45:09,655 --> 00:45:13,409
The shell went down,
direct hit right in the hole.
578
00:45:13,575 --> 00:45:17,045
-Made mush out of them.
-Luz come over and hollered:
579
00:45:17,215 --> 00:45:20,366
""l can"t see nothing of them,
nothing there. ""
580
00:45:20,535 --> 00:45:23,288
They were all gone,
just disintegrated.
581
00:45:23,455 --> 00:45:25,764
Unmerciful shelling, really.
582
00:45:26,095 --> 00:45:32,409
Everything out here was shredded.
Yeah, shredded by it.
583
00:45:37,095 --> 00:45:39,768
l tell you, it"s an odd feeling.
584
00:45:40,575 --> 00:45:46,525
To me, it brings a lot of memories,
memories of the men, the times. . .
585
00:45:46,695 --> 00:45:49,653
. . .good and bad, a lot of memories.
586
00:45:59,295 --> 00:46:03,846
lt was the most miserable place
l"ve ever been in my life, even today.
587
00:46:04,375 --> 00:46:07,173
On a real cold night,
we go to bed. . .
588
00:46:07,335 --> 00:46:12,363
. . .and my wife will tell you,
l"ll say, ""l"m glad l"m not in Bastogne. ""
589
00:46:12,575 --> 00:46:16,488
The Germans wanted Bastogne
because of the road network.
590
00:46:16,655 --> 00:46:19,328
That"s why it was such an objective.
591
00:46:19,495 --> 00:46:23,249
So that"s where we had
to hold, which we did.
592
00:46:27,655 --> 00:46:34,094
31 8 trucks come in around
noontime, and by that evening. . .
593
00:46:34,255 --> 00:46:37,770
. . .everybody was loaded
and moving out.
594
00:46:37,935 --> 00:46:40,085
We were short of equipment.
595
00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:44,487
We didn"t have enough ammunition
or enough warm clothes.
596
00:46:44,655 --> 00:46:48,807
But we had confidence that our. . .
597
00:46:48,975 --> 00:46:53,765
. . .higher military authorities would get
to us whatever we needed.
598
00:46:53,935 --> 00:46:57,894
When we got up there, we didn"t know
what we were getting into.
599
00:46:58,055 --> 00:47:00,250
There was very little information. . .
600
00:47:00,415 --> 00:47:02,804
. . .only that the Germans had
broken through.
601
00:47:02,975 --> 00:47:07,844
We went down, loaded on the trucks.
Another truck came by with weapons. . .
602
00:47:08,015 --> 00:47:13,089
. . .and pitched weapons. You catch one,
that"s what you got until Bastogne.
603
00:47:13,255 --> 00:47:16,725
As it worked out,
there was some men who actually. . .
604
00:47:16,895 --> 00:47:21,525
. . .got on the trucks and left
for Bastogne that didn"t have a rifle.
605
00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:30,727
When we got there, we saw men
singly and in twos and threes. . .
606
00:47:30,895 --> 00:47:34,649
. . .working their way back,
some of them without weapons. . .
607
00:47:34,815 --> 00:47:36,487
. . .without equipment.
608
00:47:36,655 --> 00:47:38,486
Some of them were terrified.
609
00:47:39,015 --> 00:47:42,564
They were beat to a nub.
Every one of them were saying:
610
00:47:42,735 --> 00:47:45,727
""They"re gonna kill everybody. ""
611
00:47:45,895 --> 00:47:51,094
They couldn"t believe, when they
saw us up there, that we intended. . .
612
00:47:51,255 --> 00:47:54,213
. . .to set up lines
and stop the Germans.
613
00:47:54,375 --> 00:47:56,252
They said they couldn"t be stopped.
614
00:47:56,415 --> 00:48:00,488
We went in and started taking up
their weapons and ammunition.
615
00:48:00,655 --> 00:48:05,809
Asking the retreating guys, ""You got
any extra ammunition or grenades?""
616
00:48:05,975 --> 00:48:10,093
You could hear the firing going
on up ahead, and we"re marching. . .
617
00:48:10,295 --> 00:48:12,286
. . .to it with little ammunition.
618
00:48:12,455 --> 00:48:17,734
We marched through the night, went
to the front of Bastogne and dug in.
619
00:48:17,895 --> 00:48:19,533
And then it snowed.
620
00:48:19,735 --> 00:48:24,525
Snow, cold up to your rump.
621
00:48:24,695 --> 00:48:27,846
We didn"t have
no winter clothing or nothing.
622
00:48:28,015 --> 00:48:31,371
A third of the doggone
casualties was either. . .
623
00:48:31,535 --> 00:48:35,448
. . .frostbite or trench foot,
whatever you want to call it.
624
00:48:35,615 --> 00:48:40,052
Bad move. A lot of snow. . .
625
00:48:40,215 --> 00:48:43,446
. . .a lot of everything
you didn"t like.
626
00:48:44,335 --> 00:48:46,530
lt was a cold place.
627
00:48:46,735 --> 00:48:50,694
At this particular time,
we was on top of kind of a hill. . .
628
00:48:50,855 --> 00:48:54,211
. . .and the top of the hill
had pine trees.
629
00:48:54,375 --> 00:48:57,970
We set up our positions around
the fringe of the woods.
630
00:48:58,135 --> 00:49:01,844
ln Belgium, trees are planted.
They don"t grow like in Maine.
631
00:49:02,015 --> 00:49:03,812
There are rows of trees.
632
00:49:03,975 --> 00:49:06,648
You look down a row
and can see half a mile.
633
00:49:06,815 --> 00:49:10,364
On top of this hill,
there was a ridge with a tree line.
634
00:49:10,535 --> 00:49:12,173
We were dug in there.
635
00:49:12,335 --> 00:49:17,887
The Germans knew right where we were,
and they really gave us a shellacking.
636
00:49:22,215 --> 00:49:25,127
To an infantryman. . .
637
00:49:26,095 --> 00:49:30,327
. . .in wartime, the mother earth
is your best friend.
638
00:49:33,575 --> 00:49:37,204
You could always dig a hole and get
out of sight, you know.
639
00:49:37,375 --> 00:49:40,572
We dug plenty of those.
640
00:49:44,535 --> 00:49:47,003
You get through
hard ground quickly. . .
641
00:49:47,175 --> 00:49:50,372
. . .when someone"s shooting,
and shells are falling.
642
00:49:50,495 --> 00:49:54,408
You can make fast work of it.
We just have to dig that hole.
643
00:49:54,575 --> 00:49:57,965
We say we became experts
on foreign European soil.
644
00:49:58,135 --> 00:50:01,844
We dug in, and two people
could dig better than one.
645
00:50:02,015 --> 00:50:06,725
ln ground that"s frozen, it takes
a while. You just chip it out.
646
00:50:06,895 --> 00:50:10,888
By the time you finish, they
whistle to you, ""We"re moving out. ""
647
00:50:11,055 --> 00:50:13,888
And you go someplace else
and dig another one.
648
00:50:14,055 --> 00:50:16,523
You must understand,
the Germans were--
649
00:50:16,695 --> 00:50:21,405
We were surrounded. The Germans
were maybe 1 00 yards away from us.
650
00:50:21,575 --> 00:50:26,968
No matter where you looked in a circle,
you could see artillery flashes.
651
00:50:27,135 --> 00:50:31,014
So we knew from that
that we were surrounded.
652
00:50:31,175 --> 00:50:35,088
But we went through a couple
of shellings at Bastogne. . .
653
00:50:35,255 --> 00:50:39,407
. . .that were earthshaking.
654
00:50:39,575 --> 00:50:44,171
lf you lived through them, you remember
them for the rest of your life.
655
00:50:44,335 --> 00:50:47,930
l"m not sure you"re the same
for the rest of your life. . .
656
00:50:48,095 --> 00:50:51,644
. . .after you live through them.
You never forget them.
657
00:50:51,815 --> 00:50:55,603
There was one moment
l remember. l"ll never forget it.
658
00:50:55,775 --> 00:50:58,573
One guy got hit in the arm
with shrapnel. . .
659
00:50:58,735 --> 00:51:01,374
. . .took his arm off above the elbow.
660
00:51:01,535 --> 00:51:05,528
They were taking him out, he said,
""Get my watch off my arm. ""
661
00:51:05,695 --> 00:51:07,447
Before they took him out.
662
00:51:07,615 --> 00:51:10,652
That always stayed with me.
663
00:51:10,815 --> 00:51:15,570
l mean, calm voice and everything,
""Get my watch off my arm. ""
664
00:51:17,255 --> 00:51:22,932
On the 3rd of January, we withdrew
back to our former positions. . .
665
00:51:23,095 --> 00:51:28,886
. . .there, up the hill from Foy.
And when we got there. . .
666
00:51:29,055 --> 00:51:34,413
. . .we could see that the Germans
had zeroed in artillery there.
667
00:51:34,575 --> 00:51:38,966
Trees were knocked down.
There were holes in the ground.
668
00:51:39,135 --> 00:51:42,127
lt was right at dusk, and
the Germans had this. . . .
669
00:51:42,295 --> 00:51:46,254
This woods of ours
zeroed in completely.
670
00:51:46,415 --> 00:51:50,533
And as we hit the woods,
this tremendous artillery attack came.
671
00:51:57,255 --> 00:51:59,450
They knew where we were. . .
672
00:51:59,615 --> 00:52:03,688
. . .and started shooting,
point-blank, 88s into our area.
673
00:52:03,895 --> 00:52:07,444
They let us have it.
Everything, the kitchen sink. . .
674
00:52:07,615 --> 00:52:11,528
. . .mortars, a rocket thing
with a screaming sound.
675
00:52:14,495 --> 00:52:18,807
lt scared the hell-- l was scared,
but l think l was petrified then.
676
00:52:18,975 --> 00:52:22,411
l thought the whole world
was shooting at us at once.
677
00:52:22,615 --> 00:52:27,848
l jumped into a foxhole somebody
had started and hadn"t finished.
678
00:52:28,015 --> 00:52:33,487
So l was crouched down in that foxhole,
but it wouldn"t hold all of me.
679
00:52:33,655 --> 00:52:36,408
From about my nose up
was above the ground.
680
00:52:36,575 --> 00:52:39,533
l could see all these shells hitting.
681
00:52:44,775 --> 00:52:48,131
Sgt. Guarnere
and Joe Toye each lost a leg. . .
682
00:52:48,295 --> 00:52:52,083
. . .in the same place, right there
on one hill. l remember.
683
00:52:52,255 --> 00:52:54,086
Just this certain instance.
684
00:52:54,295 --> 00:53:00,052
Joe got caught not near his hole,
and Bill and l were ahead of him. . .
685
00:53:00,215 --> 00:53:02,809
. . .and Bill had not been hit.
686
00:53:02,975 --> 00:53:07,173
He came up out of his hole quickly.
We were still under heavy fire.
687
00:53:07,415 --> 00:53:10,691
Joe said, ""Jesus Christ. . .
688
00:53:10,855 --> 00:53:14,291
. . .what do l have to do to die?""
689
00:53:14,455 --> 00:53:17,094
He got hit real bad
in the back of his leg.
690
00:53:17,255 --> 00:53:20,930
He"s out hollering, ""Medic,""
and he can"t find a medic.
691
00:53:21,095 --> 00:53:25,213
l went out to see what
l could do for him. . .l got it too.
692
00:53:28,295 --> 00:53:32,049
l went over to Guarnere.
He was sitting on the ground.
693
00:53:32,215 --> 00:53:35,651
His leg was badly mangled.
694
00:53:35,815 --> 00:53:40,013
He was holding his leg,
and it was jerking like that:
695
00:53:44,935 --> 00:53:50,168
He said, ""Lip, they got
old Guarnere this time. ""
696
00:53:50,335 --> 00:53:54,851
He had been hit before,
but they really got him there.
697
00:53:57,335 --> 00:54:01,886
We got him out of there,
Babe Heffron and l and some others.
698
00:54:02,055 --> 00:54:08,085
And they brought a jeep down,
and we put him on stretchers.
699
00:54:12,215 --> 00:54:14,649
l better not talk about him.
700
00:54:14,815 --> 00:54:17,124
l better not talk about him.
701
00:54:17,295 --> 00:54:19,445
lt was terrible.
702
00:54:25,575 --> 00:54:29,250
We had lost some
very good men there.
703
00:54:29,415 --> 00:54:32,851
Toye and Guarnere
had lost their legs there.
704
00:54:33,015 --> 00:54:38,885
A number of other people were killed.
lt was a difficult situation there.
705
00:54:39,055 --> 00:54:43,253
When a man was wounded,
we felt glad for them. . .
706
00:54:43,415 --> 00:54:45,212
. . .we felt happy for them.
707
00:54:45,375 --> 00:54:51,769
He had a ticket to get out of there,
and maybe a ticket to go home.
708
00:54:51,935 --> 00:54:55,211
And when we had a man
who was killed. . .
709
00:54:55,375 --> 00:54:59,891
. . .we found that he was at peace.
710
00:55:00,055 --> 00:55:02,967
And he looked so peaceful.
711
00:55:03,855 --> 00:55:08,133
And we were glad that he found peace.
712
00:55:13,335 --> 00:55:15,565
We had this. . .
713
00:55:15,735 --> 00:55:19,125
. . .assistant squad leader,
name of Mellet.
714
00:55:19,295 --> 00:55:22,207
He was from New York City.
715
00:55:22,375 --> 00:55:25,094
And l overheard him
talking one time. . .
716
00:55:25,255 --> 00:55:29,248
. . .this was in Bastogne,
he says:
717
00:55:29,415 --> 00:55:32,566
""l been through. . .
718
00:55:32,735 --> 00:55:35,852
. . .Normandy and went
through Holland. . .
719
00:55:36,015 --> 00:55:38,973
. . .and to this day, l haven"t
got one scratch. ""
720
00:55:39,135 --> 00:55:44,687
He says, ""l"m afraid when l do get it,
l"m really gonna get it. ""
721
00:55:44,855 --> 00:55:46,607
And he was right.
722
00:55:46,775 --> 00:55:51,485
ln this little town of Foy,
he got killed.
723
00:55:55,855 --> 00:56:01,134
l don"t think he had any premonition
of it. He just wondered about it.
724
00:56:01,295 --> 00:56:03,365
But l never did wonder.
725
00:56:03,535 --> 00:56:09,246
Never give it much thought.
You just live from day to day.
726
00:56:11,495 --> 00:56:16,205
Keep your fingers crossed,
and that was it.
727
00:56:34,935 --> 00:56:40,168
I have the honor to present the supreme
commander, Gen. Eisenhower.
728
00:56:43,615 --> 00:56:48,928
It is a great personal honor
for me to be here today.
729
00:56:49,095 --> 00:56:54,965
To take part in a ceremony
that is unique in American history.
730
00:56:55,135 --> 00:56:59,014
Never before has a full division...
731
00:56:59,175 --> 00:57:01,735
...been cited by the War Department...
732
00:57:01,895 --> 00:57:05,683
...in the name of the president
for gallantry in action.
733
00:57:05,855 --> 00:57:09,973
This day marks the beginning
of a new tradition...
734
00:57:10,135 --> 00:57:12,729
...in the American Army.
735
00:57:12,895 --> 00:57:16,934
With that tradition will always
be associated the name...
736
00:57:17,095 --> 00:57:22,123
...of the 1 01st Airborne Division
and of Bastogne.
737
00:57:22,295 --> 00:57:25,731
Good luck and God be with each of you.
738
00:57:34,495 --> 00:57:39,569
The Germans had started to surrender.
They still had their arms. . .
739
00:57:39,735 --> 00:57:45,048
. . .but as you"re going
down the autobahn. . .
740
00:57:45,215 --> 00:57:51,563
. . .there was almost a solid line
of German troops coming north.
741
00:57:51,975 --> 00:57:57,447
And our job is to get to the end
and get to the heart of it.
742
00:58:01,375 --> 00:58:05,050
Berchtesgaden,
that"s the end of the line.
743
00:58:05,215 --> 00:58:09,493
lt"s the retreat that Hitler
had for himself.
744
00:58:09,655 --> 00:58:12,886
And he built his Eagle"s Nest. . .
745
00:58:13,055 --> 00:58:17,287
. . .his penthouse on top of the Alp. . .
746
00:58:17,455 --> 00:58:22,575
. . .to, l"m sure, relax
and confer with his staff. . .
747
00:58:22,735 --> 00:58:26,011
. . .because they all followed
him to Berchtesgaden.
748
00:58:26,175 --> 00:58:29,372
This was their final retreat.
749
00:58:29,655 --> 00:58:33,011
Of course, this is where
they had their loot as well.
750
00:58:33,255 --> 00:58:37,646
This was the goal of the French,
who were on our right flank.
751
00:58:37,815 --> 00:58:42,331
This was the goal of the British.
752
00:58:42,495 --> 00:58:47,364
And this is the place to capture.
This is the one everybody wanted.
753
00:58:47,535 --> 00:58:49,765
Hitler's Berchtesgaden retreat...
754
00:58:49,935 --> 00:58:53,007
...burned by SS troops
in the war's last days.
755
00:58:53,175 --> 00:58:57,532
The chalet from which he hoped
to rule the world now lies in ruins.
756
00:58:57,695 --> 00:59:00,926
American Air Force's pictures
show the gutted rooms...
757
00:59:01,095 --> 00:59:05,885
...and the great window through which
the fuhrer gazed out on the Alps.
758
00:59:06,255 --> 00:59:11,773
We took Berchtesgaden May the 5th,
no fighting, no shooting.
759
00:59:11,935 --> 00:59:15,052
The only thing l seen
of Berchtesgaden was a couple. . .
760
00:59:15,295 --> 00:59:19,493
. . .dead SS troopers laying
on the road as we were going up.
761
00:59:19,735 --> 00:59:25,093
lt was beautiful country. He knew how
to pick out a good spot for a house.
762
00:59:25,255 --> 00:59:30,375
We took over his house. . .
763
00:59:30,535 --> 00:59:32,765
. . .and liberated it, you might say.
764
00:59:32,975 --> 00:59:37,890
There was, obviously,
loot of all kinds. . .
765
00:59:38,055 --> 00:59:43,175
. . .that the men were looking for,
such as guns. . . .
766
00:59:43,335 --> 00:59:46,452
There was money
that they were looting.
767
00:59:46,615 --> 00:59:49,971
l was a pack rat anyway.
l picked up a lot of German items. . .
768
00:59:50,135 --> 00:59:54,526
. . .including some post cards
and envelopes addressed to Hitler.
769
00:59:54,695 --> 00:59:58,131
Come to find out, that place
was full of big art. . .
770
00:59:58,295 --> 01:00:02,811
. . .Rembrandt and all those people
hanging on the wall.
771
01:00:02,975 --> 01:00:06,968
Old soldiers like us, we don"t recognize
a painting when we see it.
772
01:00:07,135 --> 01:00:11,925
The 1 01st Airborne Division uncovers
Hermann Goering's art collection...
773
01:00:12,095 --> 01:00:14,734
...hidden in a subterranean chamber.
774
01:00:14,895 --> 01:00:18,524
Twelve hundred artworks
worth millions are included.
775
01:00:18,695 --> 01:00:23,644
The treasures will go back to rightful
owners in pillaged nations.
776
01:00:26,135 --> 01:00:32,085
We found a warehouse full of gin
and vodka and stuff like that.
777
01:00:32,255 --> 01:00:35,372
Wasn"t much whiskey.
Those people don"t like it.
778
01:00:35,535 --> 01:00:38,208
And we took it all and set up a bar.
779
01:00:38,375 --> 01:00:41,572
Had seven truckloads
of champagne and cognac. . .
780
01:00:41,735 --> 01:00:46,172
. . .out of the wine cellars
out of the Eagle"s Nest.
781
01:00:46,575 --> 01:00:49,408
So we stayed
pretty well oiled for a while.
782
01:00:49,575 --> 01:00:52,772
Oh, that champagne was good.
Oh, that was good.
783
01:00:52,935 --> 01:00:58,248
l started drinking it one day, and l
drank until about midnight that night.
784
01:00:58,415 --> 01:01:03,284
l went to the back and went to sleep.
l didn"t wake up the next day.
785
01:01:03,455 --> 01:01:06,765
l made a two-day thing out of it.
786
01:01:06,935 --> 01:01:12,168
lt didn"t taste like it would hurt you.
lt tasted like ginger ale.
787
01:01:12,335 --> 01:01:16,613
That was the only time l remember,
when l was in service. . .
788
01:01:16,775 --> 01:01:19,209
. . .that the company fell out
in their underwear.
789
01:01:19,375 --> 01:01:22,094
We didn"t even have
to dress, you know.
790
01:01:22,255 --> 01:01:28,046
Everybody was looped, and so we fell
out in line formation in our underwear.
791
01:01:28,215 --> 01:01:31,446
They"re enjoying themselves.
They"re at peace with the world.
792
01:01:31,615 --> 01:01:35,813
They have a big, happy,
satisfied grin on their face.
793
01:01:35,975 --> 01:01:40,127
lt was a paradise for
a soldier to move into.
794
01:01:41,015 --> 01:01:46,214
l had no problem with the looting,
because l came down through Germany.
795
01:01:46,375 --> 01:01:51,165
And l had seen the Holocaust.
796
01:01:52,055 --> 01:01:56,924
And l had seen what the Germans
had done to the Jewish race.
797
01:01:57,095 --> 01:02:02,647
And l had seen what they
had done to the displaced persons. . .
798
01:02:02,815 --> 01:02:06,603
. . .and what they had done
in their occupation of France.
799
01:02:06,775 --> 01:02:13,044
And what they had done to their
occupation in Holland, Belgium.
800
01:02:14,615 --> 01:02:19,769
So that by taking over
their homes for a few nights. . .
801
01:02:19,935 --> 01:02:22,972
. . .to bed down my men. . . .
802
01:02:23,135 --> 01:02:28,163
And if they picked up
a few trinkets, l had no problem.
803
01:02:39,335 --> 01:02:45,365
Nobody has ever taken their time
to tell you how to handle a surrender.
804
01:02:47,535 --> 01:02:53,929
We"ll talk about it when we get there.
Here we are. How do you handle this?
805
01:02:59,415 --> 01:03:02,248
The German army
was a well-disciplined army.
806
01:03:02,415 --> 01:03:05,088
Those prisoners that
come down out of the Alps. . .
807
01:03:05,255 --> 01:03:08,133
. . .they came down in formation.
They marched down.
808
01:03:08,295 --> 01:03:11,810
They didn"t drag down
or nothing like that.
809
01:03:11,975 --> 01:03:17,003
They came down
as defeated soldiers.
810
01:03:17,175 --> 01:03:21,612
We thought the Germans were
the evilest people in the world. . .
811
01:03:21,775 --> 01:03:27,247
. . .but as the war went along, we found
out also, it wasn"t the Germans. . .
812
01:03:27,415 --> 01:03:32,011
. . .per se, it was the SS
and the special troops.
813
01:03:32,175 --> 01:03:36,453
They were the ones
that could kill their own people. . .
814
01:03:36,615 --> 01:03:41,405
. . .and the regular German
soldier was not that way.
815
01:03:41,575 --> 01:03:45,124
One of those prisoners
handed me this little book. . .
816
01:03:45,295 --> 01:03:48,844
. . .and it was a Catholic
prayer book for the Mass.
817
01:03:49,015 --> 01:03:53,964
And l realized, ""Hey, l haven"t got
Nazis here. l"ve got some Catholics. ""
818
01:03:54,135 --> 01:03:58,048
And l"ve got a Catholic good enough
to stick one of these in his pocket.
819
01:03:58,215 --> 01:04:03,892
l"ve thought we might"ve been friends.
We might"ve had a lot in common.
820
01:04:04,055 --> 01:04:09,175
We might"ve liked to fish. He might"ve
liked to hunt. You never know.
821
01:04:09,335 --> 01:04:14,170
They did what they were supposed to,
and l did what l was supposed to.
822
01:04:14,335 --> 01:04:19,853
But under different circumstances,
we might"ve been good friends.
823
01:04:20,735 --> 01:04:24,330
l have a great deal of respect
for them as soldiers.
824
01:04:24,495 --> 01:04:27,453
They were very good soldiers.
825
01:04:27,615 --> 01:04:30,083
But they"re still enemy. . .
826
01:04:30,415 --> 01:04:36,126
. . .so they must
be controlled as prisoners.
827
01:04:36,535 --> 01:04:41,814
When it reached the level
of surrender for company. . .
828
01:04:41,975 --> 01:04:44,170
. . .and smaller units. . .
829
01:04:44,335 --> 01:04:47,486
. . .l was assigned this major. . .
830
01:04:47,655 --> 01:04:51,250
. . .and when he walked in. . .
831
01:04:51,415 --> 01:04:54,566
. . .he presented me this pistol. . .
832
01:04:54,735 --> 01:05:00,651
. . .and offered
his personal surrender. . .
833
01:05:03,615 --> 01:05:09,565
. . .which, naturally,
l accepted gratefully.
834
01:05:09,935 --> 01:05:14,372
So that would be the end
of the war for his men. . .
835
01:05:14,535 --> 01:05:18,084
. . .and this is basically
the end of the war for my men.
836
01:05:18,255 --> 01:05:20,564
And the significance is. . .
837
01:05:20,735 --> 01:05:25,411
. . .it wasn"t until later, after he gave
me his pistol and l had a chance. . .
838
01:05:25,615 --> 01:05:29,813
. . .to look at it carefully,
that l realized this pistol. . .
839
01:05:30,015 --> 01:05:32,370
. . .had never been fired.
840
01:05:32,935 --> 01:05:35,608
There was no blood on it.
841
01:05:37,295 --> 01:05:40,446
That"s the way all wars should end. . .
842
01:05:40,615 --> 01:05:44,005
. . .with an agreement
with no blood on it.
843
01:05:44,175 --> 01:05:48,054
And l assure you, this pistol
has never, never been fired. . .
844
01:05:48,215 --> 01:05:52,686
. . .since l"ve had it,
and it will not be fired.
845
01:06:06,375 --> 01:06:08,809
We didn"t come home
and flout ourselves.
846
01:06:08,975 --> 01:06:11,728
l didn"t come home and say
l was a war hero.
847
01:06:11,895 --> 01:06:16,332
l came home and went back to it like
we did before war. Just go to work. . .
848
01:06:16,495 --> 01:06:18,645
. . .and live our life.
849
01:06:19,615 --> 01:06:23,369
l think it was difficult
for most fellows coming back.
850
01:06:23,535 --> 01:06:28,689
They didn"t know what they were going
to do when they got out. l didn"t.
851
01:06:28,855 --> 01:06:30,846
Went to work for a coal company.
852
01:06:31,015 --> 01:06:34,485
Did some bartendering
and ran a pool hall.
853
01:06:34,655 --> 01:06:37,613
Took up a course in
ornamental horticulture.
854
01:06:37,775 --> 01:06:42,007
lt didn"t pay very much,
but l met a lot of nice people.
855
01:06:44,895 --> 01:06:48,171
l went to work where
l was working before the war.
856
01:06:48,335 --> 01:06:50,212
lt was Caterpillar Tractor Company.
857
01:06:50,375 --> 01:06:53,651
l became an industrial arts
and social studies teacher.
858
01:06:53,815 --> 01:06:57,330
The spring of "46, l took
a boat to Ketchikan, Alaska.
859
01:06:57,495 --> 01:07:01,932
l went to work for the government,
a letter carrier for 37 years.
860
01:07:02,095 --> 01:07:07,010
l built homes. l was in construction.
l went into hard work, tedious work.
861
01:07:07,175 --> 01:07:10,690
l"d done everything.
You name it, l done it.
862
01:07:12,095 --> 01:07:14,529
l ended up working
on the waterfront.
863
01:07:14,695 --> 01:07:16,925
l went with the ClA
in Washington.
864
01:07:17,095 --> 01:07:18,813
Got my degree in 1 948.
865
01:07:18,975 --> 01:07:21,967
After the war, l taught
for almost 30 years.
866
01:07:22,135 --> 01:07:25,093
Got a job working for
Nixon Nitration Works.
867
01:07:25,255 --> 01:07:28,247
l was making $ 75 a week.
868
01:07:28,415 --> 01:07:31,054
We"ve never become
wealthy in life. . .
869
01:07:31,215 --> 01:07:35,367
. . .but we have a lot of other wealth
that means more than that.
870
01:07:35,535 --> 01:07:40,290
Everyone done well,
l done well too, thank God.
871
01:07:48,735 --> 01:07:50,453
l want to welcome you. . .
872
01:07:50,615 --> 01:07:55,814
. . .to our banquet tonight to celebrate
the ending of a fine reunion.
873
01:07:55,975 --> 01:07:57,772
Thank you all for coming.
874
01:07:57,935 --> 01:08:01,484
l want to extend the best wishes
to all the men from company E506.
875
01:08:01,655 --> 01:08:05,250
l love you, God bless you all.
Thank you.
876
01:08:06,495 --> 01:08:08,804
The purpose the reunions serve. . .
877
01:08:08,975 --> 01:08:12,854
. . .is to give us a chance to get
together and talk to each other.
878
01:08:13,015 --> 01:08:17,850
We relive some
of the Army experiences.
879
01:08:18,015 --> 01:08:21,405
But we have great respect. . .
880
01:08:21,575 --> 01:08:25,045
. . .and, you might say,
affection for each other.
881
01:08:25,215 --> 01:08:28,651
The type of affection you get
when you"ve lived through. . .
882
01:08:28,815 --> 01:08:31,613
. . .many dangerous
situations together. . .
883
01:08:31,775 --> 01:08:34,926
. . .and have learned that
you can rely on each other.
884
01:08:35,095 --> 01:08:40,567
lf you see them today, that bond"s
there. The bond you can"t explain.
885
01:08:40,735 --> 01:08:45,968
Soon as you see them, you"re thinking
of battles, thinking of it to yourself.
886
01:08:46,135 --> 01:08:48,649
The men stand out amongst each other.
887
01:08:48,815 --> 01:08:53,969
There"s an intimacy develops and like
nothing that l"ve ever experienced. . .
888
01:08:54,135 --> 01:08:58,413
. . .not in college, not with
any other group of people.
889
01:08:58,575 --> 01:09:03,205
We"re a strange bunch of dudes,
as far as l"m concerned.
890
01:09:03,375 --> 01:09:09,610
To be this close after all these years,
that"s the thing that gets me. . .
891
01:09:09,775 --> 01:09:12,414
. . .is we"re like brothers.
892
01:09:12,575 --> 01:09:14,247
l"m back in my youth now.
893
01:09:14,415 --> 01:09:18,567
When l get to these guys,
l"m back when l went in the service.
894
01:09:19,335 --> 01:09:24,455
lt"s fantastic.
l"d like to make 20 more reunions.
895
01:09:24,615 --> 01:09:28,528
We had a lot of real
good times in there.
896
01:09:28,695 --> 01:09:32,085
Those are the times
you really remember, you know?
897
01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:37,329
A lot of those is what we kid each
other about at these reunions a lot.
898
01:09:37,495 --> 01:09:41,124
And then you had a lot of bad times.
899
01:09:41,415 --> 01:09:44,805
My family didn"t know
anything about it. . .
900
01:09:44,975 --> 01:09:47,569
. . .and l just didn"t tell them.
901
01:09:47,735 --> 01:09:50,613
l just, you know,
figured it was something. . .
902
01:09:50,775 --> 01:09:54,529
. . .that didn"t need talking about.
lt was done, over with.
903
01:09:54,695 --> 01:09:59,052
We didn"t know Shifty the way
the men knew Shifty, you know.
904
01:09:59,215 --> 01:10:04,005
He started talking about it
just in the last five or six years.
905
01:10:04,175 --> 01:10:06,131
Last five, l"d say.
906
01:10:06,295 --> 01:10:10,208
lt was like he--
That was another life, you know.
907
01:10:10,375 --> 01:10:16,291
He was another person, and we weren"t
aware of the stuff he went through. . .
908
01:10:16,455 --> 01:10:18,252
. . .things he had seen.
909
01:10:18,415 --> 01:10:22,567
lt didn"t even dawn on me
that he had killed people.
910
01:10:22,735 --> 01:10:26,410
l really admire my dad, my daddy.
911
01:10:26,575 --> 01:10:30,568
He"s a good guy.
He"s a real strong guy.
912
01:10:30,735 --> 01:10:35,092
We travel a lot, and we"ve been
to France and to that cemetery.
913
01:10:35,255 --> 01:10:40,010
lt"s incredible. There"s crosses
upon crosses lined up perfectly. . .
914
01:10:40,175 --> 01:10:45,932
. . .as far as the eye can see, and then
there"s a cliff and the ocean.
915
01:10:46,495 --> 01:10:49,293
These weren"t
just anonymous statistics.
916
01:10:49,455 --> 01:10:53,334
These were people l knew,
and l told my daughter, l said:
917
01:10:53,495 --> 01:10:57,807
""This guy here died at age 1 9 or 20. ""
918
01:10:57,975 --> 01:11:01,445
A whole life never lived.
919
01:11:01,615 --> 01:11:04,493
No family. . .
920
01:11:04,655 --> 01:11:05,883
. . .nothing.
921
01:11:06,055 --> 01:11:08,250
No children. . .
922
01:11:08,415 --> 01:11:13,967
. . .no opportunity to have satisfaction
in building a life, nothing.
923
01:11:14,455 --> 01:11:18,448
When l went there, l said,
""Dad, my gosh, you were so lucky. ""
924
01:11:18,615 --> 01:11:21,766
He looked at me and said,
""Yeah, l"m very lucky. ""
925
01:11:21,935 --> 01:11:24,324
And he started crying.
926
01:11:26,095 --> 01:11:29,610
These guys have been together
in the absolute base experiences. . .
927
01:11:29,775 --> 01:11:33,085
. . .of human existence.
They were there with each other. . .
928
01:11:33,255 --> 01:11:38,204
. . .thinking you"re gonna die or seeing
people dying all around you.
929
01:11:38,375 --> 01:11:41,526
And there they went day after day. . .
930
01:11:42,895 --> 01:11:47,127
. . .and l admire that and held my father,
even on his tombstone. . .
931
01:11:47,295 --> 01:11:51,129
. . .as Sgt. Joe Toye.
932
01:11:53,095 --> 01:11:56,053
506 PlR 1 01 st Airborne Division.
933
01:11:56,215 --> 01:12:01,289
That"s what he wanted on his
tombstone. lt meant that much to him.
934
01:12:11,455 --> 01:12:15,448
How it happened that
those various individuals. . .
935
01:12:15,615 --> 01:12:18,175
. . .ended up in E Company,
l don"t know.
936
01:12:18,335 --> 01:12:23,329
But as you know, every Army unit
thinks it"s the best. . .
937
01:12:23,495 --> 01:12:26,612
. . .but we knew we were the best.
938
01:12:30,775 --> 01:12:33,494
l think about the guys
more than anything.
939
01:12:33,655 --> 01:12:35,885
l think about most
of them every day.
940
01:12:36,055 --> 01:12:41,083
lt"s something that"s etched
in your memory, l guess.
941
01:12:41,815 --> 01:12:44,488
lt"ll never leave either.
942
01:12:45,415 --> 01:12:49,010
Am l proud of having served
in that outfit? You bet your life.
943
01:12:49,175 --> 01:12:52,212
l wore that eagle
on my right shoulder for 1 8 years.
944
01:12:52,375 --> 01:12:54,570
Probably the proudest thing
in my whole life. . .
945
01:12:54,735 --> 01:12:58,569
. . .was having been
in Easy Company 506.
946
01:13:01,735 --> 01:13:04,647
The heroes had crosses
over their heads. . .
947
01:13:04,815 --> 01:13:07,534
. . .the ones that are buried
in the cemeteries.
948
01:13:07,695 --> 01:13:10,163
Those are the true heroes, not us.
949
01:13:10,335 --> 01:13:12,610
We"re just part of the works.
950
01:13:12,775 --> 01:13:16,893
And we thank God we got
back alive. That"s all.
951
01:13:18,895 --> 01:13:23,650
How would you like to be a mother
or a father to a son never come back?
952
01:13:25,535 --> 01:13:29,892
The son and the mother and the father
are the heroes of World War ll. . .
953
01:13:30,055 --> 01:13:32,489
. . .not the guys that come home.
954
01:13:35,015 --> 01:13:37,210
Let me say this. . .
955
01:13:38,935 --> 01:13:42,086
. . .l believe there"s very,
very few heroes. . .
956
01:13:42,255 --> 01:13:46,965
. . .that came back from the war.
They"re still over there.
957
01:13:56,335 --> 01:14:01,090
Do you remember the letter
that Mike Ranney wrote me?
958
01:14:01,255 --> 01:14:03,769
Do you remember how he ended it?
959
01:14:04,695 --> 01:14:09,564
""l cherish the memories
of a question my grandson. . .
960
01:14:09,735 --> 01:14:14,172
. . .asked me the other day
when he said:
961
01:14:14,335 --> 01:14:18,328
"Grandpa, were you
a hero in the war?"
962
01:14:20,655 --> 01:14:23,488
Grandpa said, "No. . .
963
01:14:27,295 --> 01:14:30,890
. . .but l served
in a company of heroes." ""
964
01:15:49,535 --> 01:15:54,086
Joe Toye.
Oh, there was a big mick.
965
01:15:54,335 --> 01:15:59,090
And we used to have a few beers
at night, and l"d sing.
966
01:15:59,935 --> 01:16:02,369
Guarnere would
come over and sing.
967
01:16:02,535 --> 01:16:04,332
He"d say to Guarnere:
968
01:16:04,495 --> 01:16:08,010
""Guarnere, you"re ltalian,
you don"t know this song. ""
969
01:16:08,175 --> 01:16:10,848
Guarnere could sing
it better than he did.
970
01:16:11,015 --> 01:16:12,607
""Bridget O"Flynn. ""
971
01:16:12,775 --> 01:16:14,493
How"s it go?
972
01:17:08,215 --> 01:17:12,891
Now, that"s the song Toye liked,
and that"s what we sang.
973
01:17:13,015 --> 01:17:16,769
You only needed a sisal of beer.
Two beers you were drunk. . .
974
01:17:16,935 --> 01:17:19,608
. . .because you were
in great physical condition.
975
01:17:19,775 --> 01:17:22,847
You were too piqued, you know. . .
976
01:17:23,015 --> 01:17:27,486
. . .and two beers you were as high
as Georgia pine, you know.
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