All language subtitles for josko

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian Download
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
el Greek
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranî)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
es-419 Spanish (Latin American)
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:30,697 I was born in Brooklyn, New York, May 19th, 1946, 2 00:00:31,781 --> 00:00:34,701 {\an8}and when I was about four, we moved to Florida. 3 00:00:35,535 --> 00:00:37,786 {\an8}My stepfather was a policeman, 4 00:00:37,787 --> 00:00:41,874 {\an8}and he was in an organization called the John Birch Society, 5 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:43,543 which was a right-wing organization. 6 00:00:44,335 --> 00:00:46,628 We're proud members of the John Birch Society. 7 00:00:46,629 --> 00:00:49,966 {\an8}We're all engaged along with the society in an epic undertaking. 8 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,468 We have got to defeat 9 00:00:52,469 --> 00:00:55,096 the international Communist world control conspiracy. 10 00:00:56,181 --> 00:01:00,852 {\an8}His job for the John Birch Society was making telephone tapes. 11 00:01:01,519 --> 00:01:04,021 People would dial the word "freedom" on the telephone, 12 00:01:04,022 --> 00:01:06,565 and they would get a recorded message. 13 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:09,276 The road to tyranny was enacted 14 00:01:09,277 --> 00:01:10,819 in the form of the Civil Rights Bill... 15 00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:15,240 Most of those recorded messages were about how bad the Communists were. 16 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:18,535 The goal of the international Communist conspiracy 17 00:01:18,536 --> 00:01:20,580 is world domination. 18 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:23,499 I didn't know what a Communist was, 19 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:24,666 but I knew they were bad, 20 00:01:24,667 --> 00:01:27,295 and that they were the enemy of the United States, 21 00:01:28,046 --> 00:01:29,797 {\an8}and that it would be my job 22 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:33,342 to go in the military when I graduate high school 23 00:01:33,343 --> 00:01:36,179 and stop the commies before they got over here. 24 00:01:40,725 --> 00:01:43,853 Three days after I graduated, I was at Parris Island. 25 00:01:48,024 --> 00:01:51,026 Boot camp, that's where they basically take the civilian out of you 26 00:01:51,027 --> 00:01:53,321 and put the military in you. 27 00:01:54,155 --> 00:01:57,241 They take all your personal belongings away from you, 28 00:01:57,242 --> 00:01:59,536 and they put you in a rack, a bed. 29 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:04,206 And then the next morning, the lights come on, 30 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:06,333 people are running up and down the barrack halls, 31 00:02:06,334 --> 00:02:07,459 making a lot of noise, 32 00:02:07,460 --> 00:02:11,172 and they're pushing over the bunk beds and knocking people out of their beds. 33 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,841 I woke up, and I thought I was having a bad dream, 34 00:02:13,842 --> 00:02:15,927 but it was real. 35 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:22,015 They give you impossible tasks, 36 00:02:22,016 --> 00:02:25,478 and then they punish you for not doing those impossible tasks. 37 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:28,564 For instance, I was asked to jump. 38 00:02:28,565 --> 00:02:31,233 So I jumped. And the drill instructor said, 39 00:02:31,234 --> 00:02:34,279 "Private Camil, who gave you permission to come down?" 40 00:02:36,322 --> 00:02:39,492 There's a lot of dehumanization in the training. 41 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:43,537 You run, and you sing songs with a cadence. 42 00:02:43,538 --> 00:02:46,999 One of the songs was... I'm gonna go to Vietnam 43 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,626 I'm gonna kill some Việt Cộng 44 00:02:49,627 --> 00:02:51,421 With a knife or with a gun 45 00:02:53,464 --> 00:02:55,175 Either way, it will be fun 46 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:24,995 I cannot think of a more cataclysmic event 47 00:03:24,996 --> 00:03:26,456 than the Vietnam War. 48 00:03:43,348 --> 00:03:44,765 For Vietnamese people, 49 00:03:44,766 --> 00:03:47,852 the events that took place were life-defining. 50 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,438 And in terms of the United States, 51 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:55,360 Vietnam shaped their understanding of their place in the world. 52 00:03:57,528 --> 00:03:59,821 And do all this, and do it right... 53 00:03:59,822 --> 00:04:05,035 The Vietnam War caused a great loss of faith in presidents 54 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:07,997 and their top foreign policy advisors... 55 00:04:09,874 --> 00:04:15,420 {\an8}because we saw things just not work out the way they were presented, 56 00:04:15,421 --> 00:04:17,465 {\an8}and the way they were sold to us. 57 00:04:21,177 --> 00:04:23,136 Prior to the Vietnam War, 58 00:04:23,137 --> 00:04:27,058 for the most part, Americans believed their leaders in Washington, D.C. 59 00:04:28,476 --> 00:04:29,434 After Vietnam, 60 00:04:29,435 --> 00:04:33,522 {\an8}you had the first decline of what we call the imperial presidency. 61 00:04:33,523 --> 00:04:36,483 This was really when the American people understood 62 00:04:36,484 --> 00:04:38,819 that, you know, our leaders in Washington, D.C. 63 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:41,822 aren't always doing what we think they're doing. 64 00:04:41,823 --> 00:04:43,282 They don't always tell us 65 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:46,703 the decision-making that was taking place behind closed doors. 66 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:49,788 And during the Vietnam War era, 67 00:04:49,789 --> 00:04:53,251 the American people saw that leaders for the first time lied to them. 68 00:04:53,918 --> 00:04:55,585 {\an8}From a political standpoint, 69 00:04:55,586 --> 00:04:58,964 {\an8}we could've flushed it down the drain three years ago. 70 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:01,509 Blame Johnson and Kennedy. 71 00:05:05,430 --> 00:05:08,765 Many of the things that plague our society today, 72 00:05:08,766 --> 00:05:12,185 resentment, alienation, cynicism, 73 00:05:12,186 --> 00:05:17,358 a tendency to mistrust one another, to question one another's motives, 74 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:20,652 a breakdown in civic institutions, 75 00:05:20,653 --> 00:05:23,655 {\an8}they have complex causes, no question, 76 00:05:23,656 --> 00:05:27,952 {\an8}but I think many of them have their roots in the Vietnam era. 77 00:05:33,708 --> 00:05:35,084 {\an8}America's changing. 78 00:05:35,585 --> 00:05:37,170 {\an8}Did Vietnam cause it? 79 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:40,881 {\an8}It was one of the causes. 80 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:46,179 It let loose a torrent of emotion in American society. 81 00:05:47,638 --> 00:05:50,516 No more war! No more war! 82 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:54,854 {\an8}This was a shredding of the innocence of this country, 83 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:56,981 {\an8}the revelation of that. 84 00:05:57,857 --> 00:05:59,775 It was transformative, not only that, 85 00:05:59,776 --> 00:06:03,236 but it-- the anti-war movement woke up a lot of other communities 86 00:06:03,237 --> 00:06:05,615 {\an8}like, "Hey, we need representation here." 87 00:06:06,324 --> 00:06:07,992 "We need to be heard." 88 00:06:08,576 --> 00:06:11,912 My conscience won't let me go shoot my brother, 89 00:06:11,913 --> 00:06:13,455 or some darker people, 90 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:16,416 {\an8}or some poor, hungry people in the mud 91 00:06:16,417 --> 00:06:18,043 {\an8}for big, powerful America. 92 00:06:18,044 --> 00:06:21,005 And shoot them for what? They never called me "nigger." 93 00:06:22,173 --> 00:06:25,718 {\an8}I was angry, and I wanted to make sure 94 00:06:26,302 --> 00:06:30,598 {\an8}when I threw the rock through the window of the Army recruitment office, 95 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:33,309 I was willing to go to jail for that. 96 00:06:37,605 --> 00:06:39,315 What was happening to us, 97 00:06:40,316 --> 00:06:45,530 {\an8}our image of ourselves as the last best hope on earth 98 00:06:46,447 --> 00:06:47,323 was shaken. 99 00:06:48,658 --> 00:06:49,991 And if it wasn't shaken, 100 00:06:49,992 --> 00:06:53,121 if it was still strong to millions and millions of Americans, 101 00:06:53,913 --> 00:06:56,874 by the end of the war in Vietnam, it was shattered. 102 00:06:59,168 --> 00:07:00,503 Watch out! 103 00:07:02,505 --> 00:07:05,590 Because viewed a certain way, the United States in Vietnam 104 00:07:05,591 --> 00:07:07,592 was not the last best hope on earth. 105 00:07:07,593 --> 00:07:12,306 It was a violent, militaristic, imperial power. 106 00:07:14,308 --> 00:07:16,893 We all live under the shadow of Vietnam. 107 00:07:16,894 --> 00:07:19,313 We all live with the consequences of Vietnam. 108 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:24,443 The memory of that war is something 109 00:07:24,444 --> 00:07:28,239 {\an8}that a lot of people are spending a lot of time trying to erase. 110 00:07:29,490 --> 00:07:31,284 But we can't forget Vietnam. 111 00:07:32,368 --> 00:07:33,995 It's with us today. 112 00:07:57,935 --> 00:08:00,980 When I was a very young boy, perhaps ten, 113 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,734 plucking hairs from my mother's head... 114 00:08:06,903 --> 00:08:10,655 She must have been in her fifties or late forties at that point 115 00:08:10,656 --> 00:08:12,283 in San Jose, California. 116 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:19,789 {\an8}And out of nowhere, she tells me that in Vietnam, 117 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:24,419 {\an8}she saw a dead child on a doorstep in her neighborhood. 118 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:27,256 And that child had died because of the famine. 119 00:08:28,299 --> 00:08:31,927 So that was one of the ways by which I started to understand 120 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:37,642 that the history of the country where I had come from was complicated... 121 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:43,272 terrible... 122 00:08:47,151 --> 00:08:49,237 unspoken of in so many ways. 123 00:08:50,947 --> 00:08:52,322 Certainly among Americans, 124 00:08:52,323 --> 00:08:55,535 but also to a certain extent among the Vietnamese too. 125 00:08:59,121 --> 00:09:01,290 There's history in the sense of facts. 126 00:09:03,167 --> 00:09:06,003 But there's also history as stories, as narratives. 127 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:08,296 With the war in Vietnam, 128 00:09:08,297 --> 00:09:12,260 the histories we tell about that are really, really crucial. 129 00:09:14,804 --> 00:09:17,556 For me, as someone who's Vietnamese and American, 130 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:19,975 I'm deeply aware that in both of these countries, 131 00:09:19,976 --> 00:09:22,395 there are deeply conflicting histories. 132 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:28,401 That's part of what led to the war in Vietnam. 133 00:09:35,116 --> 00:09:37,117 In the United States, early on, 134 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:40,496 the American mindset was certainly this Cold War mindset. 135 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:44,249 There was communism, and there was capitalism, 136 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:47,460 and there was totalitarianism, and there was democracy. 137 00:09:47,461 --> 00:09:51,173 Either or, us or them, everybody had to choose. 138 00:09:51,757 --> 00:09:53,801 That was the American perspective. 139 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,019 {\an8}Only a few generations 140 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:05,438 {\an8}have been granted the role 141 00:10:06,022 --> 00:10:09,817 {\an8}of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. 142 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:14,488 {\an8}I do not shrink from this responsibility. I welcome it. 143 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:20,785 John F. Kennedy, the 35th President of the United States, 144 00:10:20,786 --> 00:10:23,748 is an extraordinary figure in American political history. 145 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:26,875 He was a Cold War president. 146 00:10:26,876 --> 00:10:29,712 To some degree, I would say he was a cold warrior. 147 00:10:30,921 --> 00:10:33,298 Kennedy obviously inspired Americans, 148 00:10:33,299 --> 00:10:36,009 through his idealism, through his rhetoric, 149 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:40,388 to support, fundamentally, his vision for the nation's future. 150 00:10:40,389 --> 00:10:43,183 From the Office of the White House in Washington, D.C., 151 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:47,062 NBC Radio now presents an address by the President of the United States, 152 00:10:47,063 --> 00:10:48,105 John F. Kennedy. 153 00:10:48,689 --> 00:10:51,566 Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States. 154 00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:54,487 We preach freedom around the world, and we mean it, 155 00:10:55,154 --> 00:10:57,405 and we cherish our freedom here at home. 156 00:10:57,406 --> 00:11:01,035 But he's a very key figure on the Vietnam story. 157 00:11:01,869 --> 00:11:06,666 {\an8}It's fair to say, uh, it's not his best... chapter. 158 00:11:08,292 --> 00:11:11,461 So when Kennedy comes in, he believes that he inherits 159 00:11:11,462 --> 00:11:15,174 a very, very dangerous geopolitical situation. 160 00:11:18,010 --> 00:11:22,222 {\an8}You have these two great power centers that are emerging in the Communist world, 161 00:11:22,223 --> 00:11:25,810 {\an8}the Soviet Union, as well as the People's Republic of China. 162 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:28,186 {\an8}What we oppose, fundamentally, 163 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:31,022 is the aggressive nature of the Communist state, 164 00:11:31,023 --> 00:11:34,442 its unceasing effort to expand wherever it can, 165 00:11:34,443 --> 00:11:37,195 to grow bigger, to take over, to supplant. 166 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:42,158 It's hard today to recapture the degree to which ordinary Americans, 167 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:43,952 {\an8}as well as their leaders, 168 00:11:43,953 --> 00:11:46,579 {\an8}were concerned about the threat 169 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:49,875 {\an8}that Communism represented to the American way of life. 170 00:11:50,751 --> 00:11:54,088 In 1961, the Communists decide to build a wall in Berlin. 171 00:12:09,895 --> 00:12:12,689 {\an8}At the same time, Cuban leader Fidel Castro 172 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:14,733 {\an8}and his Communist brethren 173 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,152 {\an8}had taken over Cuba. 174 00:12:17,278 --> 00:12:20,238 It looks like the Soviets, the Communists, have a beachhead 175 00:12:20,239 --> 00:12:21,741 in the Western Hemisphere. 176 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:27,163 {\an8}And Kennedy inherits a plan to take down Castro. 177 00:12:29,957 --> 00:12:34,502 The Bay of Pigs affair is a disaster for the United States. 178 00:12:34,503 --> 00:12:36,504 It ends in catastrophe. 179 00:12:36,505 --> 00:12:38,591 There are hundreds of deaths. 180 00:12:39,633 --> 00:12:41,635 It's a real black eye for Kennedy. 181 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,849 {\an8}This is essentially a political war, 182 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:50,393 {\an8}because it's a war for men's minds. 183 00:12:50,394 --> 00:12:53,146 {\an8}And, uh, if we lose the minds 184 00:12:53,147 --> 00:12:54,564 {\an8}of these people, 185 00:12:54,565 --> 00:12:58,693 we lose the minds of the officer corps and of the civil servants, 186 00:12:58,694 --> 00:13:00,529 we will have lost the war. 187 00:13:02,865 --> 00:13:05,283 The reason that Kennedy starts recording? 188 00:13:05,284 --> 00:13:06,660 It's unclear. 189 00:13:08,954 --> 00:13:12,165 He was the first president to tape extensively. 190 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:16,837 {\an8}He recorded about 260 hours of White House conversations. 191 00:13:18,631 --> 00:13:22,218 He got the Secret Service to install it on the QT. 192 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:26,222 The tape recorder was hidden in the White House basement. 193 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:28,890 It is a time machine. 194 00:13:28,891 --> 00:13:31,309 It's like if you could just dial up the past 195 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:33,770 and be a kind of a fly on the wall 196 00:13:33,771 --> 00:13:36,941 as people are making incredibly important decisions. 197 00:13:40,569 --> 00:13:43,404 {\an8}There are increasing reports, uh, 198 00:13:43,405 --> 00:13:46,449 {\an8}in Saigon and in Huế, as well, 199 00:13:46,450 --> 00:13:50,913 {\an8}that students are talking of moving over to the Việt Cộng side. 200 00:13:58,254 --> 00:14:01,090 Kennedy can see that the world is changing. 201 00:14:02,132 --> 00:14:06,637 Who is JFK? Is he really going to be a leader to contend with or not? 202 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:10,265 Kennedy recognizes the danger of that. 203 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:13,184 So that's one of the reasons why, by the end of the year, 204 00:14:13,185 --> 00:14:17,356 he recognizes that Vietnam may be the place he needs to take a stand. 205 00:14:30,327 --> 00:14:31,744 I think most Americans, 206 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:34,956 certainly most white middle-class Americans, 207 00:14:34,957 --> 00:14:38,127 had an idealistic view of their country. 208 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:41,504 {\an8}The United States stood for good in the world 209 00:14:41,505 --> 00:14:45,009 {\an8}against the evil empire of the Soviet Union. 210 00:14:46,427 --> 00:14:48,345 Nobody knew anything about Vietnam. 211 00:14:50,097 --> 00:14:51,599 Nobody knew where it was. 212 00:14:59,273 --> 00:15:02,066 By then, North Vietnam had become completely identified 213 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:05,571 as a Communist state with a Communist revolution, 214 00:15:06,196 --> 00:15:08,574 {\an8}supported by China and the Soviet Union. 215 00:15:14,622 --> 00:15:18,249 South Vietnam was going to be a capitalist democracy 216 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:20,960 modeled on something like the United States 217 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:22,504 and what it had to offer. 218 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:28,218 The Democratic Republic of Vietnam was the Communists... 219 00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:32,389 {\an8}led by Hồ Chí Minh. 220 00:15:39,855 --> 00:15:43,692 He believed sincerely in the Communist cause, 221 00:15:45,903 --> 00:15:47,529 but it's always his country. 222 00:15:48,572 --> 00:15:52,326 The nationalist fervor is what really drives Hồ Chí Minh. 223 00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:57,498 A non-Communist government is in power in Saigon, 224 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:00,668 {\an8}led by Ngô Đình Diệm. 225 00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:04,463 A dedicated nationalist, 226 00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:07,591 very courageous figure personally, 227 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:09,718 a Catholic, 228 00:16:10,719 --> 00:16:14,597 who feels strongly that he knows what's best for South Vietnam, 229 00:16:14,598 --> 00:16:16,892 but he is a dedicated anti-Communist. 230 00:16:19,061 --> 00:16:22,439 {\an8}And he becomes a very important ally of the United States. 231 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:30,656 There was a war being carried out mostly by the North Vietnamese. 232 00:16:32,574 --> 00:16:34,409 These are films of South Vietnam 233 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:37,997 after the destruction of a village by the North Vietnamese. 234 00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:43,292 {\an8}To those in command of North Vietnam and the Việt Cộng, 235 00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:47,631 {\an8}the pursuit was a united Vietnam under Hanoi with a Communist government. 236 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:51,927 To those in South Vietnam, the pursuit was to be left alone. 237 00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:54,888 But they were not left alone. 238 00:16:57,599 --> 00:17:02,146 By 1960, every area of life in the South has become a combat zone. 239 00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:11,904 The state of Vietnam, when Kennedy comes into office, 240 00:17:11,905 --> 00:17:16,535 is that the insurrection in South Vietnam had grown very rapidly. 241 00:17:23,542 --> 00:17:26,627 {\an8}By January of '61, Kennedy was facing a country 242 00:17:26,628 --> 00:17:29,840 {\an8}that had already lost much of the control of the countryside. 243 00:17:31,925 --> 00:17:34,261 And the Communists were on the move. 244 00:17:35,262 --> 00:17:39,307 {\an8}There was concern that if Vietnam fell, then the others would fall also, 245 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:42,478 you know, Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, etc. 246 00:17:43,937 --> 00:17:46,315 I think that was quite generally believed. 247 00:17:48,525 --> 00:17:50,069 This is the domino theory. 248 00:17:51,779 --> 00:17:55,615 If you had one country in Asia fall to Communism, 249 00:17:55,616 --> 00:17:57,283 that it would set off falling dominoes 250 00:17:57,284 --> 00:17:59,786 {\an8}that would lead all the way to San Francisco. 251 00:17:59,787 --> 00:18:02,497 Mr. President, have you ever had any reason to doubt 252 00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:04,791 this so-called domino theory, 253 00:18:04,792 --> 00:18:08,503 that if South Vietnam falls, the rest of Southeast Asia will go along behind it? 254 00:18:08,504 --> 00:18:11,215 No, I-I believe it. I believe it. 255 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,342 {\an8}I think that, uh, the struggle is close enough. 256 00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:19,013 {\an8}China is so large, looms so high on the-- just beyond the frontiers. 257 00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:20,515 {\an8}If South Vietnam went, 258 00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:23,726 {\an8}it would not only give them an improved geographic position 259 00:18:23,727 --> 00:18:25,728 for a guerrilla assault on Malaya, 260 00:18:25,729 --> 00:18:27,396 but would also give the impression 261 00:18:27,397 --> 00:18:29,482 that the wave of the future in Southeast Asia 262 00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:31,485 was China and the Communists. 263 00:18:36,657 --> 00:18:38,991 Kennedy's top foreign policy advisors, 264 00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:40,952 Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 265 00:18:40,953 --> 00:18:43,621 Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 266 00:18:43,622 --> 00:18:46,375 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 267 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:50,378 {\an8}that trio, along, I think, with senior military brass, 268 00:18:50,379 --> 00:18:56,552 {\an8}are convinced that South Vietnam's future may depend on increased US involvement. 269 00:18:58,137 --> 00:18:59,929 Top aides who are basically saying, 270 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:04,059 "Mr. President, we think you need to put American troops into South Vietnam." 271 00:19:05,269 --> 00:19:07,145 They even come up with various schemes 272 00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:11,358 that can be used to introduce American forces sort of under the radar. 273 00:19:11,942 --> 00:19:15,319 In the past year, we've doubled the rate of building Polaris submarines. 274 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,363 The Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara 275 00:19:17,364 --> 00:19:19,741 must be central to this story. 276 00:19:21,994 --> 00:19:24,662 Robert McNamara grew up in California, 277 00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:29,000 went to Berkeley, and then got an MBA at Harvard. 278 00:19:29,001 --> 00:19:30,627 {\an8}During World War II, 279 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,923 {\an8}he worked in the units that did bomb spotting. 280 00:19:36,592 --> 00:19:38,927 After he came out of the Army, 281 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,763 he went to work at Ford. 282 00:19:42,723 --> 00:19:43,806 I'm Bob McNamara, 283 00:19:43,807 --> 00:19:47,727 Group Vice President in charge of the car and truck divisions of the company. 284 00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:51,022 He was a very imposing figure in Washington 285 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:53,024 in terms of his persona 286 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:55,484 and the degree to which he intimidated people 287 00:19:55,485 --> 00:19:58,363 with his forceful personality and his intelligence. 288 00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,450 And he's an architect of the Vietnam War, 289 00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:04,786 of the Americanization of the Vietnam War. 290 00:20:05,829 --> 00:20:09,540 {\an8}The United States is not at war with the Communists, 291 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:13,169 {\an8}but American military advisors are going over to work 292 00:20:13,170 --> 00:20:15,547 with the South Vietnamese military. 293 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:22,178 Kennedy's advisors tell him that Vietnam is actually in grave danger. 294 00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:26,641 The Communists have made inroads all throughout South Vietnam. 295 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:31,355 It doesn't look like Diệm's forces are able to really withstand the tide. 296 00:20:32,856 --> 00:20:34,482 {\an8}While I can report, Mr. President, 297 00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:38,236 {\an8}definite progress and increasing strength in the government forces, 298 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:39,403 {\an8}the progress is slow. 299 00:20:39,404 --> 00:20:41,280 {\an8}And it's very, very slow, 300 00:20:41,281 --> 00:20:43,242 slower than we would like to see. 301 00:20:44,993 --> 00:20:46,702 When Kennedy comes into office, 302 00:20:46,703 --> 00:20:51,040 there are less than 700 US military advisors in South Vietnam. 303 00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:55,504 Keep your eye on the man ahead of you. Keep him in that gun sight at all times. 304 00:20:56,505 --> 00:21:00,466 {\an8}But now Kennedy decides to put in more military advisors 305 00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:03,219 {\an8}to help the South Vietnamese learn 306 00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:06,848 how to fight the war better against the Communists. 307 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:16,148 {\an8}I grew up in central New York in the Finger Lakes area 308 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:17,817 {\an8}near Ithaca, New York. 309 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:22,197 I only had a tiny idea that something was going on in Vietnam. 310 00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:29,496 I wanted to go to West Point. 311 00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:31,956 So I decided to just walk downtown, 312 00:21:31,957 --> 00:21:34,334 go to an Army recruiter, and join the Army. 313 00:21:38,046 --> 00:21:40,548 That was, uh, in the spring of 1962, 314 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:42,551 and I was in Vietnam by the end of the year. 315 00:21:45,053 --> 00:21:50,017 I got the sense that the military had no idea what they were doing. 316 00:21:50,767 --> 00:21:53,477 There had been an assistant secretary of defense 317 00:21:53,478 --> 00:21:57,399 {\an8}who said, "We need a cover story for what we're doing in South Vietnam." 318 00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:00,360 They were sending in advisors. 319 00:22:02,904 --> 00:22:06,198 What that really meant was they would take a group of South Vietnamese troops, 320 00:22:06,199 --> 00:22:10,244 put them on a helicopter or otherwise transport them to some place, 321 00:22:10,245 --> 00:22:12,164 and push them into a firefight. 322 00:22:14,666 --> 00:22:18,169 Sometimes they turned around and shot at the American helicopters. 323 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:19,920 So that wasn't working out so well, 324 00:22:19,921 --> 00:22:24,217 turning somebody else into the army that we would direct. 325 00:22:27,262 --> 00:22:29,221 And that's why they kept bringing in 326 00:22:29,222 --> 00:22:31,683 more and more of our own advisors. 327 00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:37,522 But this is not going to be like World War II. 328 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:42,527 This is an insurgency fight. 329 00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:46,739 {\an8}This is a war without front lines, 330 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:50,911 where war is fought in and among the population, not separate from it. 331 00:22:51,495 --> 00:22:54,246 This is the only way that you can be sure 332 00:22:54,247 --> 00:22:56,791 that you always have the equipment which you need 333 00:22:56,792 --> 00:22:58,876 in order to go out and fight the Việt Cộng 334 00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:00,921 and win the battle against the Việt Cộng. 335 00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:07,968 "Việt Cộng" is a contraction between "Vietnam Cộng Sản," 336 00:23:07,969 --> 00:23:09,554 or Vietnamese Communism. 337 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:14,058 {\an8}"Việt Cộng," it would be used in a derogatory way 338 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:17,686 {\an8}to describe any Communist enemy in South Vietnam. 339 00:23:17,687 --> 00:23:20,189 {\an8}So it would be called "VC" for short. 340 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:24,444 {\an8}They would become known officially as the National Liberation Front. 341 00:23:26,405 --> 00:23:30,116 And what you see is an escalation of US advisors, 342 00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,536 an escalation of military aid, economic aid. 343 00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:36,247 By the end of 1961, 344 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:40,251 there are roughly 3,000 American military advisors 345 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:42,420 embedded with the South Vietnamese. 346 00:23:42,421 --> 00:23:44,255 {\an8}By the end of 1962, 347 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,591 {\an8}I've seen figures upwards of 11,000. 348 00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:48,634 {\an8}And by 1963, 349 00:23:48,635 --> 00:23:53,097 {\an8}there are well over 16,000 US military advisors 350 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:54,516 {\an8}in South Vietnam. 351 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,311 This is a dramatic increase. 352 00:23:58,937 --> 00:24:02,398 Almighty God, we stand before thee 353 00:24:02,399 --> 00:24:05,943 as thy children should, acknowledging... 354 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:10,157 We didn't know much about this operation that was developing. 355 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:15,744 Kennedy did not allow much information to emerge 356 00:24:15,745 --> 00:24:21,376 {\an8}of the kind of support that he was sending to Vietnam. 357 00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:26,715 The Vietnam War is a turning point in United States history. 358 00:24:27,924 --> 00:24:31,677 {\an8}There's a stark difference between the before and the after 359 00:24:31,678 --> 00:24:33,346 {\an8}when it comes to the Vietnam War. 360 00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:38,560 And one of those turning points is this thing called the credibility gap. 361 00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,521 That's a gap between what the government is telling you 362 00:24:42,522 --> 00:24:45,150 and what is actually happening on the ground. 363 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:48,360 And you feel that you have told the American people 364 00:24:48,361 --> 00:24:51,030 as much as can be told because of the sensitivity 365 00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:53,199 of the-- of the subject? Is that...? 366 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,327 Well, I-- I think I've just indicated what our role is. 367 00:24:56,328 --> 00:25:00,289 We have increased our assistance to the government, its logistics. 368 00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:02,416 We have not sent combat troops there, 369 00:25:02,417 --> 00:25:05,711 though the training missions that we have there, 370 00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:08,506 uh, have been instructed, if they are fired upon, to, uh... 371 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:10,217 They, uh, would, of course, fire back. 372 00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:14,678 He didn't say that they were reinforcing 373 00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:19,935 the South Vietnamese military with heavy weapons and aircraft. 374 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:33,614 He didn't say that American so-called "advisors" 375 00:25:33,615 --> 00:25:37,661 would fly the planes going out on bombing missions. 376 00:25:39,913 --> 00:25:42,456 The advisors are not supposed to be fighting the war. 377 00:25:42,457 --> 00:25:46,586 They're only supposed to be assisting, but they're actually fighting as well. 378 00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:48,546 And dying too. 379 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:52,050 ...continue to bless this world with men such as these. 380 00:25:59,975 --> 00:26:03,352 We also learned in that period 381 00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:09,483 that the Kennedy administration had sent guidelines out to the American mission 382 00:26:09,484 --> 00:26:12,487 not to cooperate with the Western press. 383 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,780 The important question 384 00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:20,245 {\an8}was what was really happening on the ground in South Vietnam. 385 00:26:32,882 --> 00:26:37,177 I arrived in Saigon in June 1962 386 00:26:37,178 --> 00:26:41,224 {\an8}as a correspondent for the Associated Press. 387 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:46,104 {\an8}The roadblocks we encountered were enormous. 388 00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:51,609 {\an8}The South Vietnamese government enforced strict censorship. 389 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:54,236 {\an8}So any story we sent out, 390 00:26:54,237 --> 00:26:56,531 {\an8}we had to send through the post office. 391 00:27:01,036 --> 00:27:05,122 They did not allow any critical references 392 00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:09,461 or anything that would suggest the inadequacies of the government. 393 00:27:10,211 --> 00:27:15,674 {\an8}And the US diplomatic and military missions 394 00:27:15,675 --> 00:27:20,597 were totally uncooperative with the media in Saigon. 395 00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:24,350 One of the solutions we found 396 00:27:24,351 --> 00:27:28,062 to get information of what was really going on 397 00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:32,232 was we would simply drive out in the mornings 398 00:27:32,233 --> 00:27:34,943 along the main highways out of Saigon, 399 00:27:34,944 --> 00:27:37,404 looking for any action, 400 00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:39,324 say, helicopter traffic. 401 00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:45,371 We would follow the helicopters along the main roads. 402 00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:49,708 And when we saw dead bodies on the road or wounded people, 403 00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:52,754 we knew we'd found the battle and the action. 404 00:27:55,256 --> 00:27:58,760 To be a great journalist, you gotta get close to the action. 405 00:27:59,636 --> 00:28:01,220 You got to be there. 406 00:28:01,221 --> 00:28:04,431 And Arnett is famous for the stories that he covered 407 00:28:04,432 --> 00:28:07,310 where he was just on top of the action. 408 00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:13,358 It was dangerous, but getting a story was the main thing. 409 00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:18,446 And that's how we got the story about Ấp Bắc. 410 00:28:22,617 --> 00:28:25,245 {\an8}We didn't know anything about this operation. 411 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:31,250 {\an8}The helicopter contacts at the Tân Sơn Nhứt airport called us 412 00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:33,210 {\an8}and said they're really worried 413 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:36,505 {\an8}because they've lost several of their helicopters 414 00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:38,425 {\an8}in this place, Ấp Bắc. 415 00:28:42,345 --> 00:28:45,472 And we're given a helicopter ride 416 00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:47,600 {\an8}around the battlefield. 417 00:28:48,768 --> 00:28:52,355 {\an8}And we went pretty close. You could see bodies on the ground. 418 00:28:53,022 --> 00:28:58,111 And at that point, there'd been five American helicopters shot down, 419 00:28:58,862 --> 00:29:00,696 {\an8}three American dead. 420 00:29:00,697 --> 00:29:02,906 {\an8}There were eight or nine injured, 421 00:29:02,907 --> 00:29:06,869 50, 60 South Vietnamese casualties. 422 00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:08,955 It was just a complete mess. 423 00:29:09,998 --> 00:29:12,584 The Battle of Ấp Bắc is extremely important. 424 00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:18,547 US helicopter pilots and US soldiers are directly involved 425 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:22,844 and noticeably directly involved for the first time in the war. 426 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:29,058 It is evident that they're flying the helicopters. 427 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,479 So the pretense that the United States is only there 428 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,107 in the capacity of advising Vietnam 429 00:29:37,108 --> 00:29:39,861 can no longer be maintained at the Battle of Ấp Bắc. 430 00:29:41,571 --> 00:29:44,448 {\an8}General Paul D. Harkins arrived. 431 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:48,035 {\an8}He was the chief of the American military mission. 432 00:29:48,036 --> 00:29:52,331 And we walked over to him. We said, "General, how does it look?" 433 00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:54,083 And he said, "Boys... 434 00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:57,628 it was a great victory." 435 00:29:57,629 --> 00:30:00,422 "We've got the VC on the run, 436 00:30:00,423 --> 00:30:03,760 and we're moving in on them right now. Bye." 437 00:30:06,513 --> 00:30:09,808 That was the senseless optimism 438 00:30:10,433 --> 00:30:14,102 that prevailed amongst the senior-most Americans 439 00:30:14,103 --> 00:30:15,355 in Saigon. 440 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:18,273 Most of the Red guerrilla band was wiped out. 441 00:30:18,274 --> 00:30:21,276 American observers counted at least 80 bodies. 442 00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:26,031 They added that it was the best action Vietnam's 7th Division has yet executed. 443 00:30:26,032 --> 00:30:28,368 US training seems to be paying off. 444 00:30:28,868 --> 00:30:32,455 The military painted the Ấp Bắc engagement as a victory. 445 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,582 But it's a real black eye for the Americans, 446 00:30:35,583 --> 00:30:39,462 as reported in the American media, back home, to the country... 447 00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:44,341 as well as to Kennedy. 448 00:30:44,342 --> 00:30:48,428 When Kennedy sees a picture of an American helicopter on the ground, 449 00:30:48,429 --> 00:30:51,808 you know, "What's going on here? I-- I thought we were doing well." 450 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:07,573 It's impossible to divorce American politics 451 00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:09,951 from American policy abroad. 452 00:31:11,911 --> 00:31:13,954 Politics is always going to be part of the mix 453 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:16,583 because that's just baked into the system. 454 00:31:18,543 --> 00:31:20,919 John F. Kennedy is hoping that he can keep this all 455 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,506 on the back burner through the '64 election. 456 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:31,347 But that hope is dashed when the Buddhist crisis erupts. 457 00:31:37,312 --> 00:31:42,734 Buddhists were a big part of Vietnam's 15 million or so population. 458 00:31:49,115 --> 00:31:53,077 {\an8}The United States supported South Vietnamese President Ngô Đình Diệm. 459 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,415 He was a Vietnamese Catholic. 460 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,834 And of course he received a lot of support, 461 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:02,629 I think, from Vietnamese Catholics. 462 00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:07,132 {\an8}Vietnamese Catholics are a minority throughout Vietnam. 463 00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:11,053 Their Catholicism owes to the French and Portuguese presence 464 00:32:11,054 --> 00:32:13,890 throughout the past few centuries of Vietnamese history. 465 00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:20,313 {\an8}South Vietnam, under Ngô Đình Diệm, did not have a policy against Buddhism. 466 00:32:21,356 --> 00:32:27,153 He supported the building, the construction of many Buddhist temples. 467 00:32:27,946 --> 00:32:29,947 But by the 1960s, 468 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:35,160 {\an8}Diệm's older brother, Ngô Đình Thục, who was a Catholic archbishop, 469 00:32:35,161 --> 00:32:39,666 {\an8}was clearly promoting Catholicism in South Vietnam. 470 00:32:41,834 --> 00:32:44,461 That gave people the impression 471 00:32:44,462 --> 00:32:50,551 that Diệm was discriminating against Buddhism and Buddhists. 472 00:32:56,933 --> 00:33:01,521 {\an8}As Mr. Diệm consolidated his power, he became more autocratic. 473 00:33:02,271 --> 00:33:05,732 Among Diệm's people, there is no genuine political opposition. 474 00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:07,443 It is simply not permitted. 475 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:14,492 {\an8}He has his brother, Mr. Nhu, who ran the secret police. 476 00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:18,871 {\an8}Ngô Đình Nhu is younger brother of Ngô Đình Diệm. 477 00:33:19,539 --> 00:33:23,126 {\an8}Madame Nhu, his wife, was much younger than he was. 478 00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:27,713 {\an8}She was well-educated under the French. 479 00:33:27,714 --> 00:33:31,801 {\an8}She became the first lady because Diệm was not married. 480 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,220 Madame Nhu and her husband, Diệm's brother, 481 00:33:35,221 --> 00:33:37,348 live in the presidential palace. 482 00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:42,102 What do you think that the United States can do most now 483 00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:43,271 to help Vietnam? 484 00:33:46,774 --> 00:33:48,735 {\an8}I think that the most urgent 485 00:33:49,652 --> 00:33:54,574 is to decide not to be intoxicated anymore 486 00:33:55,199 --> 00:33:58,745 by the propaganda, uh, plot 487 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:02,582 directed by the Communists. 488 00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:08,503 One of the things you see in Diệm's administration 489 00:34:08,504 --> 00:34:13,259 is a concerted campaign to kill off all of the VC in the region. 490 00:34:16,054 --> 00:34:17,180 {\an8}Việt Cộng... 491 00:34:20,391 --> 00:34:22,894 and anyone who disagrees with him is a VC. 492 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,692 The Buddhist political opposition would fall under this category 493 00:34:30,693 --> 00:34:32,111 as enemy of the state. 494 00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:36,491 There were factions in the Buddhist church. 495 00:34:37,492 --> 00:34:39,910 There was the more militant faction 496 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,120 who wanted Buddhism to play 497 00:34:42,121 --> 00:34:45,665 a bigger political role in the life of the nation. 498 00:34:45,666 --> 00:34:50,296 And they did not like the idea of having a Catholic president for the country. 499 00:34:54,717 --> 00:34:57,427 {\an8}Ngô Đình Nhu, who is a policeman, 500 00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:00,515 only thing in his mind is torture and kill. 501 00:35:03,684 --> 00:35:06,478 {\an8}When the South Vietnamese came in our village, 502 00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:11,275 {\an8}they put a big Ngô Đình Diệm photo and a cross 503 00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:18,116 {\an8}right inside our temple, or our altar. 504 00:35:18,699 --> 00:35:20,700 They made us bow to Ngô Đình Diệm, 505 00:35:20,701 --> 00:35:23,745 and they talking about him as just like a god. 506 00:35:23,746 --> 00:35:28,084 Like he is somebody that's so important to us. 507 00:35:28,668 --> 00:35:31,796 We don't care. We just want to be peaceful. 508 00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:37,218 We want to worship our ancestors, hang up the Buddhist flag. 509 00:35:38,553 --> 00:35:41,681 But the next thing we know that, everybody's killed. 510 00:35:47,645 --> 00:35:49,521 They killed the leaders in the village. 511 00:35:49,522 --> 00:35:52,400 They killed the monks. They buried them alive. 512 00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:54,861 So they killed 513 00:35:56,404 --> 00:35:58,573 whoever they think that's Việt Cộng. 514 00:36:02,910 --> 00:36:06,497 And so, more them doing that, 515 00:36:07,081 --> 00:36:11,918 the more our family and 90% of the villagers, 516 00:36:11,919 --> 00:36:15,214 yeah, we join the Việt Cộng, we stand up and we fight. 517 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:21,762 And so daytime, we praise the Ngô Đình Diệm. 518 00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:25,141 The nighttime, we praise Hồ Chí Minh. 519 00:36:33,816 --> 00:36:36,443 By 1963, you had all-out war 520 00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:39,822 between the Catholic leadership and their Buddhist majority. 521 00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:43,326 In South Vietnam, 522 00:36:44,702 --> 00:36:46,578 {\an8}I demonstrated against the government. 523 00:36:46,579 --> 00:36:51,541 {\an8}Not to overthrow the-- the system of government that we have, 524 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:55,171 but to establish a constitutional order for the country. 525 00:36:58,883 --> 00:37:03,053 {\an8}In Huế, the decision was made by the security forces 526 00:37:03,054 --> 00:37:05,765 {\an8}to push the protesters back. 527 00:37:10,394 --> 00:37:12,062 {\an8}And in that melee, 528 00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:14,232 several grenades were thrown. 529 00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:19,028 Eight Buddhists were killed and a lot injured. 530 00:37:26,702 --> 00:37:29,080 {\an8}That was a catastrophic mistake. 531 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:37,713 {\an8}The anger was severe, strong, boiling. 532 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,007 Boiling. 533 00:37:42,134 --> 00:37:46,973 Protests began on the streets of Saigon within a week or two. 534 00:37:57,316 --> 00:38:03,114 {\an8}There were thousands of people massed along the streets of this parade. 535 00:38:07,243 --> 00:38:10,913 And as they came along Phan Đình Phùng Street, 536 00:38:12,081 --> 00:38:18,212 a large, old automobile that had been part of the parade stopped. 537 00:38:21,882 --> 00:38:26,721 This elderly man was led out of the vehicle by a younger monk, 538 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:31,225 taken to the center of the street where he sat cross-legged 539 00:38:32,893 --> 00:38:33,893 on the street. 540 00:38:33,894 --> 00:38:36,897 And the assistant poured a liquid over him. 541 00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:42,694 And, uh, this monk lit a match and... 542 00:38:42,695 --> 00:38:44,405 ...was in flames. 543 00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:06,885 One Buddhist monk died 544 00:39:06,886 --> 00:39:11,724 to figure out how could he help to save the people. 545 00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:15,561 {\an8}Only way he can do is to give himself up. 546 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:28,282 {\an8}Madame Nhu was outspoken on everything. 547 00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:32,369 {\an8}When the Buddhist crisis was erupting 548 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:36,415 and the immolations by fire began, 549 00:39:37,124 --> 00:39:39,585 she called them "monk barbecues." 550 00:39:41,545 --> 00:39:47,259 What have the Buddhist leaders done comparatively? 551 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,344 The only thing they have done, 552 00:39:49,345 --> 00:39:54,183 they have, uh, barbecued one of their monks, 553 00:39:54,809 --> 00:39:57,310 uh, whom they have intoxicated, 554 00:39:57,311 --> 00:39:59,814 whom they have abused the confidence. 555 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:05,026 And even that barbecuing was done, uh, 556 00:40:05,027 --> 00:40:07,237 not even with self-sufficient means. 557 00:40:07,238 --> 00:40:10,616 Because they-- they used, uh, imported, uh, gasoline. 558 00:40:14,370 --> 00:40:17,832 You love your country and you say those things? 559 00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:20,960 It doesn't heal. 560 00:40:21,627 --> 00:40:23,838 It break up the faith of the people. 561 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:31,511 There is a difference between how President Diệm 562 00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:34,473 and his brother Nhu looked at the Buddhist protests. 563 00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:40,854 {\an8}Diệm himself was attempting to actually talk to the Buddhists 564 00:40:40,855 --> 00:40:42,481 {\an8}and sort of reach a compromise. 565 00:40:45,401 --> 00:40:48,236 {\an8}It was Nhu that sent the police and the military 566 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:50,573 {\an8}into the pagoda raids in late August. 567 00:40:58,664 --> 00:41:00,623 They start raiding the pagodas. 568 00:41:00,624 --> 00:41:02,334 They start arresting more people. 569 00:41:03,752 --> 00:41:05,963 Waging war on their own people. 570 00:41:09,675 --> 00:41:12,802 This clearly alarmed Washington, 571 00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:17,558 who was supporting the regime of President Ngô Đình Diệm. 572 00:41:19,685 --> 00:41:21,394 {\an8}The heart of the matter is 573 00:41:21,395 --> 00:41:23,354 {\an8}that they've established a police state, 574 00:41:23,355 --> 00:41:26,065 {\an8}and that they're interfering with the liberties of the people, 575 00:41:26,066 --> 00:41:27,942 {\an8}and that you have resentments 576 00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:29,235 born of that. 577 00:41:29,236 --> 00:41:30,529 - Right, yeah. - Right? 578 00:41:34,867 --> 00:41:38,119 The United States is watching in horror as this is playing out 579 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,829 in the summer of 1963, 580 00:41:39,830 --> 00:41:43,959 that they are telling Diệm, "You need to stop raiding these pagodas." 581 00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:48,379 In Saigon, President Ngô Đình Diệm's regime 582 00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:51,382 has accused the United States government of being off base 583 00:41:51,383 --> 00:41:54,845 in denouncing the military crackdown on his Buddhist opponents. 584 00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:03,645 President Diệm, from my standpoint, 585 00:42:03,646 --> 00:42:06,190 was the person who rebuilt the country. 586 00:42:07,483 --> 00:42:13,821 {\an8}But at his side, Ngô Đinh Nhu brought about events 587 00:42:13,822 --> 00:42:16,575 which made Diệm look bad. 588 00:42:18,744 --> 00:42:23,457 Dissent began to brew from within the military ranks. 589 00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:29,462 You have to assume 590 00:42:29,463 --> 00:42:32,340 that Diệm has felt that there's going to be a coup against him 591 00:42:32,341 --> 00:42:34,385 for probably the last couple of months. 592 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:43,017 The Guiding Light will not be seen today 593 00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:46,271 in order to bring you the following CBS News special report. 594 00:42:46,272 --> 00:42:48,106 {\an8}Good day from New York. 595 00:42:48,107 --> 00:42:50,858 {\an8}South Vietnam is in a state of revolt today, 596 00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:52,443 {\an8}and there are unconfirmed reports 597 00:42:52,444 --> 00:42:55,531 {\an8}that President Ngô Đình Diệm's government has been overthrown. 598 00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:11,422 {\an8}High-ranking military generals under Dương Văn Minh carry out the coup. 599 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:17,677 Diệm and Nhu were able to escape the presidential palace 600 00:43:17,678 --> 00:43:20,306 by way of secret doorways into tunnels. 601 00:43:20,931 --> 00:43:24,685 {\an8}Eventually, they would regroup in a Catholic church. 602 00:43:26,687 --> 00:43:30,773 {\an8}They were promised safe passage back to the palace 603 00:43:30,774 --> 00:43:32,985 {\an8}and to eventually leave the country. 604 00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:38,406 {\an8}They sent a convoy to Cha Tam Church to pick up Mr. President 605 00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:41,076 {\an8}and Mr. Advisor to bring them back. 606 00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:49,209 {\an8}Captain Nhung was Lieutenant General Dương Văn Minh's closest bodyguard. 607 00:43:50,669 --> 00:43:55,590 Later, it was learned that while sitting in the armored vehicle, 608 00:43:55,591 --> 00:43:57,008 he used a dagger blade 609 00:43:57,009 --> 00:44:02,014 to stab Ngô Đình Nhu once, causing him to collapse on his seat. 610 00:44:03,015 --> 00:44:07,310 He was about to stab once more, but he saw Ngô Đình Diệm on the side 611 00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:10,731 slightly leaning toward him, so he stabbed him once instead. 612 00:44:11,482 --> 00:44:13,734 He stabbed them one more time each, 613 00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:16,779 then shot them with his pistol. 614 00:44:20,532 --> 00:44:25,120 That is what's called a "mercy shot." 615 00:44:37,257 --> 00:44:39,300 {\an8}During the entire coup period, 616 00:44:39,301 --> 00:44:41,345 {\an8}Madame Nhu was in the United States. 617 00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:44,973 That probably saved Madame Nhu's life. 618 00:44:45,974 --> 00:44:48,852 Treason does not pay. 619 00:44:49,978 --> 00:44:52,146 And nobody can rule Vietnam, 620 00:44:52,147 --> 00:44:55,776 can rule Vietnam with just money and puppets. 621 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:01,824 And all those whom some of the Americans intend to settle and to tutor, 622 00:45:02,741 --> 00:45:06,537 for how long will they hold power 623 00:45:07,287 --> 00:45:09,164 if they ever hold power? 624 00:45:11,625 --> 00:45:14,001 {\an8}The new leaders, General Dương Văn Minh 625 00:45:14,002 --> 00:45:16,170 {\an8}and Premier Nguyễn Ngọc Thơ, 626 00:45:16,171 --> 00:45:19,425 {\an8}want immediate support from the people and recognition from the West. 627 00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:24,512 There were a series of declassifications, 628 00:45:24,513 --> 00:45:27,598 and we now know that the Kennedy administration, 629 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:31,477 in particular President Kennedy, had started courting with this idea 630 00:45:31,478 --> 00:45:35,023 {\an8}of removing Diệm as early as August of '63. 631 00:45:35,899 --> 00:45:40,112 {\an8}So the events that transpired in the beginning of November, they knew. 632 00:45:41,905 --> 00:45:42,989 There's no doubt 633 00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:45,950 John F. Kennedy was the decision-maker on Vietnam 634 00:45:45,951 --> 00:45:48,786 in those fateful weeks in 1963 635 00:45:48,787 --> 00:45:52,915 when the decision was made to essentially give the green light 636 00:45:52,916 --> 00:45:54,668 to the coup-plotters in Saigon. 637 00:45:56,420 --> 00:46:00,089 One interesting question is whether John F. Kennedy understood 638 00:46:00,090 --> 00:46:04,178 that Diệm and Nhu would likely be killed. 639 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,182 The South Vietnamese never received 640 00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:12,101 any sort of caution from the US government 641 00:46:12,102 --> 00:46:16,856 that Diệm or Nhu or anybody else in the Ngô family was to be protected, 642 00:46:16,857 --> 00:46:19,651 held harmless, allowed safely to go into exile. 643 00:46:21,278 --> 00:46:23,946 One of the things that I think is quite clear as a historian 644 00:46:23,947 --> 00:46:26,616 is that the coup-plotters knew that if Diệm lives, 645 00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:30,204 that there would be constant coups, and the Americans knew that. 646 00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:38,212 The Kennedy administration has blood on their hands. 647 00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:41,631 Some of the most poignant things you can hear from Kennedy 648 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:44,593 {\an8}is what he dictated on the Monday morning after the coup. 649 00:46:45,511 --> 00:46:48,222 I, uh, feel that we must bear 650 00:46:49,431 --> 00:46:51,350 a good deal of responsibility for it, 651 00:46:52,434 --> 00:46:56,312 {\an8}beginning with our cable of early August 652 00:46:56,313 --> 00:46:59,483 {\an8}in which we suggested the coup. 653 00:47:04,863 --> 00:47:09,158 {\an8}I was, uh, shocked by the death of Diệm and Nhu. 654 00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:12,245 I met Diệm with Justice Douglas many years ago. 655 00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:16,165 He was a... an extraordinary character. 656 00:47:16,166 --> 00:47:21,170 While he... became increasingly difficult in the last months, 657 00:47:21,171 --> 00:47:24,799 nevertheless, over a ten-year period, he held his country together, 658 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,469 maintained its independence under very adverse conditions. 659 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:30,012 He... 660 00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:34,309 The way he was killed made it particularly... abhorrent. 661 00:47:40,607 --> 00:47:44,361 Ngô Đình Diệm was a controversial figure for many different kinds of reasons, 662 00:47:45,279 --> 00:47:48,573 but I think that for some of the South Vietnamese, 663 00:47:48,574 --> 00:47:52,451 he represented the possibility of nationalist independence, 664 00:47:52,452 --> 00:47:54,955 a country led by a Vietnamese president. 665 00:47:56,081 --> 00:47:58,332 The politics of this was very, very complicated obviously, 666 00:47:58,333 --> 00:48:01,545 because South Vietnam was a politically diverse place. 667 00:48:02,087 --> 00:48:04,088 There were people of different religious backgrounds 668 00:48:04,089 --> 00:48:05,340 and so on. 669 00:48:06,133 --> 00:48:08,175 But he was controversial to different populations, 670 00:48:08,176 --> 00:48:09,845 again, for different reasons. 671 00:48:10,345 --> 00:48:11,804 Americans were opposed to him 672 00:48:11,805 --> 00:48:15,350 because they thought he stood in the way of their particular policies. 673 00:48:17,477 --> 00:48:19,270 At least for some Vietnamese Catholics, 674 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,230 he was a revered political leader, 675 00:48:21,231 --> 00:48:26,361 nationalist figure, whose assassination was a tragic event. 676 00:48:28,906 --> 00:48:32,825 When President Ngô Đình Diệm got assassinated, my father came home. 677 00:48:32,826 --> 00:48:36,746 {\an8}He said that, "It not gonna be a good time anymore." 678 00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:38,247 {\an8}"It can be a lot of chaos." 679 00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:41,125 "Nobody can deal with Hồ Chí Minh, 680 00:48:41,126 --> 00:48:44,630 can deal with the Communists, like President Ngô Đình Diệm." 681 00:48:51,678 --> 00:48:56,265 {\an8}What happened after the coup was a series of coups, 682 00:48:56,266 --> 00:49:00,061 {\an8}kind of a revolving-door government in Saigon, 683 00:49:00,062 --> 00:49:03,397 {\an8}where various generals decided that they would be the best people 684 00:49:03,398 --> 00:49:05,525 {\an8}to run the war against the Việt Cộng. 685 00:49:06,151 --> 00:49:09,655 So it was a period of instability in Saigon. 686 00:49:14,993 --> 00:49:17,870 Several weeks after Ngô Đình Diệm and Ngô Đình Nhu 687 00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:18,996 are assassinated, 688 00:49:18,997 --> 00:49:21,958 the United States goes through one of the most tragic days 689 00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,460 in presidential history. 690 00:49:27,047 --> 00:49:28,506 {\an8}Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 691 00:49:28,507 --> 00:49:31,258 {\an8}You'll excuse the fact that I'm out of breath, but... 692 00:49:31,259 --> 00:49:32,635 {\an8}about 10 or 15 minutes ago, 693 00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:35,680 {\an8}a tragic thing, from all indications at this point, has happened 694 00:49:35,681 --> 00:49:36,639 {\an8}in the city of Dallas. 695 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,058 {\an8}There has been an attempt, as perhaps you know now, 696 00:49:39,059 --> 00:49:40,685 {\an8}on the life of President Kennedy. 697 00:49:40,686 --> 00:49:42,561 {\an8}He was wounded in an automobile 698 00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:45,314 {\an8}driving from Dallas Airport into downtown Dallas, 699 00:49:45,315 --> 00:49:47,358 along with Governor Connally of Texas. 700 00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:49,652 They've been taken to Parkland Hospital there, 701 00:49:49,653 --> 00:49:52,572 where their condition is as yet unknown. 702 00:49:56,284 --> 00:49:59,328 It appears as though something has happened in the motorcade route. 703 00:49:59,329 --> 00:50:02,290 Something, I repeat, has happened in the motorcade route. 704 00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:17,388 We just have a report from our correspondent, 705 00:50:17,389 --> 00:50:18,931 Dan Rather in Dallas, 706 00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:22,728 that he has confirmed that President Kennedy is dead. 707 00:50:23,770 --> 00:50:28,524 {\an8}Walter, we have some additional film taken at and near Parkland Hospital, 708 00:50:28,525 --> 00:50:30,610 {\an8}where President John Kennedy died. 709 00:50:31,194 --> 00:50:34,197 Uh, this film is in rough cut form. 710 00:50:36,491 --> 00:50:40,703 These are some of the witnesses in the area of the shooting. 711 00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:42,747 There was a great deal of disbelief at first 712 00:50:42,748 --> 00:50:44,833 that the President had even been shot. 713 00:50:46,752 --> 00:50:48,462 To be there that day 714 00:50:49,004 --> 00:50:52,549 was pretty much what was reflected around the country. 715 00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,384 {\an8}The first reports were he was shot. 716 00:50:55,385 --> 00:50:58,179 {\an8}Then it was confirmed he was-- he was dead. 717 00:50:58,180 --> 00:50:59,930 Late afternoon editions... 718 00:50:59,931 --> 00:51:03,602 The Kennedy assassination was a shock to the American psyche. 719 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:08,940 We believed that those kinds of things didn't happen in our country anymore. 720 00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:13,486 Women here in shock. Some have fainted. 721 00:51:13,487 --> 00:51:17,239 Grown men, Secret Service men, standing by the emergency room, 722 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,326 tears streaming down their face. 723 00:51:19,993 --> 00:51:23,913 There's only one word to describe the picture here 724 00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:26,083 and that's "grief," and much of it. 725 00:51:36,176 --> 00:51:38,135 If you look at Kennedy's even opponents, 726 00:51:38,136 --> 00:51:40,221 many of them in the United States, 727 00:51:40,222 --> 00:51:43,600 even for them, this was a-- a monumental blow. 728 00:51:46,228 --> 00:51:48,521 {\an8}Today, millions of people throughout the world 729 00:51:48,522 --> 00:51:51,775 {\an8}are trying to find words adequate to express 730 00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:55,111 {\an8}their grief and their sympathy to his family. 731 00:51:55,112 --> 00:51:57,905 ...the souls of all the faithful departed, 732 00:51:57,906 --> 00:52:00,659 through the mercy of God, rest in peace. 733 00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:04,371 In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost, amen. 734 00:52:04,913 --> 00:52:08,667 If we engage in so-called "what if" speculation, 735 00:52:09,793 --> 00:52:11,920 though we will never know for sure, 736 00:52:13,130 --> 00:52:17,049 I think that the best argument is that a surviving Kennedy 737 00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:20,428 would have avoided large-scale escalation in Vietnam. 738 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,472 I think his doubts went deeper 739 00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:27,894 in terms of what American military power could do. 740 00:52:28,854 --> 00:52:30,354 And maybe most important, 741 00:52:30,355 --> 00:52:34,108 Kennedy would have reached the critical decisions on Vietnam 742 00:52:34,109 --> 00:52:35,610 in his second and final term. 743 00:52:36,736 --> 00:52:39,406 And at that point, he could no longer run for re-election. 744 00:52:41,658 --> 00:52:45,494 Anyone can speculate all they want about what he might have, should have done 745 00:52:45,495 --> 00:52:46,620 had he been re-elected. 746 00:52:46,621 --> 00:52:48,831 But all we have is the record. 747 00:52:48,832 --> 00:52:53,044 And the record is that President Kennedy got us involved in Vietnam 748 00:52:53,795 --> 00:52:55,421 and escalated the war, 749 00:52:55,422 --> 00:52:58,633 and was escalating the war when he was assassinated. 750 00:53:00,051 --> 00:53:03,930 And it's very hard for me to believe that he wouldn't have carried on the war. 751 00:53:04,764 --> 00:53:06,974 As always, democracy finds its strength 752 00:53:06,975 --> 00:53:08,727 in the continuity of the presidency. 753 00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:13,230 {\an8}Lyndon B. Johnson becomes the 36th President of the United States, 754 00:53:13,231 --> 00:53:15,858 {\an8}just 99 minutes after his predecessor's life 755 00:53:15,859 --> 00:53:16,860 {\an8}had ebbed away. 756 00:53:17,694 --> 00:53:20,070 Lyndon Johnson became president. 757 00:53:20,071 --> 00:53:21,655 But in that first year, 758 00:53:21,656 --> 00:53:24,826 {\an8}he kept referring to himself as "the accidental president." 759 00:53:27,495 --> 00:53:30,998 {\an8}When it came to domestic politics and domestic policy, 760 00:53:30,999 --> 00:53:33,168 he was truly in command. 761 00:53:35,795 --> 00:53:38,340 But on Vietnam, he was insecure. 762 00:53:39,299 --> 00:53:41,635 He didn't really understand this issue. 763 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,096 President Johnson started recording his phone calls 764 00:53:46,097 --> 00:53:49,308 using a Dictabelt system of his own immediately. 765 00:53:49,309 --> 00:53:54,022 And so we have a great record of Lyndon Johnson's phone calls. 766 00:53:56,233 --> 00:53:59,944 I would like to have, for this period when everybody is asking me, 767 00:53:59,945 --> 00:54:01,612 something in my own words. 768 00:54:01,613 --> 00:54:04,949 I can say, "Well, here are-- here are the alternatives, 769 00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:08,203 and here's our theory, and here's what we're basing it on." 770 00:54:11,539 --> 00:54:15,668 {\an8}LBJ basically, by his own admission, 771 00:54:15,669 --> 00:54:17,587 {\an8}didn't know what he was doing. 772 00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:22,425 And he was very poorly advised by his advisors, 773 00:54:23,343 --> 00:54:24,970 especially McNamara. 774 00:54:26,012 --> 00:54:27,346 I do think, Mr. President, 775 00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:30,307 that it would be wise for you to say as little as possible. 776 00:54:30,308 --> 00:54:33,269 The frank answer is, we don't know what's going on out there. 777 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,521 The signs I see coming through the cables 778 00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:38,275 are-- are disturbing signs. 779 00:54:40,151 --> 00:54:44,405 President Johnson always had something of a vulnerability 780 00:54:44,406 --> 00:54:45,740 about his education. 781 00:54:46,866 --> 00:54:49,326 When he came to the presidency, he was surrounded 782 00:54:49,327 --> 00:54:52,121 by President Kennedy's hand-picked advisors. 783 00:54:52,122 --> 00:54:53,580 And President Johnson, 784 00:54:53,581 --> 00:54:56,459 I know having talked to him, thought to himself, 785 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,087 "Geez, I just graduated from this small teacher's college 786 00:55:00,088 --> 00:55:01,463 in South Texas, 787 00:55:01,464 --> 00:55:03,924 and I have around me the best brains in the country 788 00:55:03,925 --> 00:55:06,051 that President Kennedy brought on." 789 00:55:06,052 --> 00:55:08,430 And the Kennedy advisors, make no mistake, 790 00:55:09,055 --> 00:55:13,893 were almost unanimous in saying, "You've got to stay in Vietnam." 791 00:55:17,772 --> 00:55:20,482 There's a recognition on the part of senior US officials 792 00:55:20,483 --> 00:55:22,193 in the summer of 1964 793 00:55:22,819 --> 00:55:25,071 that South Vietnam is in deep trouble. 794 00:55:26,656 --> 00:55:29,199 The insurgency is continuing to gain strength. 795 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,037 There is infighting among South Vietnamese officials. 796 00:55:32,620 --> 00:55:34,205 And something needs to happen. 797 00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:37,958 {\an8}Arguably, the United States enters the month of August 798 00:55:37,959 --> 00:55:41,463 {\an8}looking for a pretext to flex American muscle. 799 00:55:42,547 --> 00:55:43,798 In a limited fashion. 800 00:55:49,846 --> 00:55:52,765 {\an8}The American war in Vietnam began 801 00:55:52,766 --> 00:55:55,017 {\an8}in the summer of 1964 802 00:55:55,018 --> 00:55:56,935 {\an8}with political lies 803 00:55:56,936 --> 00:55:59,356 {\an8}based on false intelligence. 804 00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:05,486 USS Maddox, one of the United States Navy destroyers, 805 00:56:05,487 --> 00:56:07,696 was conducting signals intelligence patrols 806 00:56:07,697 --> 00:56:10,617 in the Gulf of Tonkin along the North Vietnamese coast. 807 00:56:11,534 --> 00:56:14,954 {\an8}They were up deep into enemy territory above the 17th parallel. 808 00:56:16,206 --> 00:56:18,499 Information gathering, intelligence gathering 809 00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:20,627 through, uh, electronic eavesdropping. 810 00:56:23,046 --> 00:56:24,880 Unbeknownst to the Maddox, 811 00:56:24,881 --> 00:56:29,218 {\an8}the South Vietnamese were conducting commando raids closer to the coast, 812 00:56:29,219 --> 00:56:33,139 {\an8}firing weapons and mortars against North Vietnamese installations. 813 00:56:38,561 --> 00:56:41,398 On the afternoon of August 2nd, 1964, 814 00:56:42,107 --> 00:56:46,778 {\an8}three North Vietnamese torpedo vessels come out and engage the USS Maddox. 815 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:54,326 {\an8}Three North Vietnamese patrol boats approached the Maddox, 816 00:56:54,327 --> 00:56:57,162 which both engaged them with fire 817 00:56:57,163 --> 00:57:00,417 {\an8}and called for air support from a nearby naval carrier. 818 00:57:04,879 --> 00:57:09,592 The Maddox sustained damage in the form of one bullet hole. 819 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,138 All three of the North Vietnamese torpedo vessels 820 00:57:14,139 --> 00:57:15,098 are struck. 821 00:57:15,890 --> 00:57:17,392 One is completely destroyed. 822 00:57:18,351 --> 00:57:22,689 The other vessels managed to drift back to their bases with some heavy damage. 823 00:57:23,815 --> 00:57:27,109 {\an8}They fired at us. We responded immediately. 824 00:57:27,110 --> 00:57:30,362 {\an8}And we took out one of their boats, put the other two running. 825 00:57:30,363 --> 00:57:32,948 We kept... We're putting our boats right there. We're not running-- 826 00:57:32,949 --> 00:57:34,741 Our instructions are to destroy-- 827 00:57:34,742 --> 00:57:35,826 That's right. 828 00:57:35,827 --> 00:57:39,455 Now I want to leave an impression on the people we talk to over here 829 00:57:39,456 --> 00:57:41,290 that we're gonna be firm as hell. 830 00:57:41,291 --> 00:57:42,791 We oughtn't do anything 831 00:57:42,792 --> 00:57:45,419 that the national interest doesn't require, 832 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:48,255 but we sure ought to always leave the impression 833 00:57:48,256 --> 00:57:50,425 that if you shoot at us, you're going to get hit. 834 00:57:54,888 --> 00:57:56,930 {\an8}In order to demonstrate US resolve, 835 00:57:56,931 --> 00:57:59,725 {\an8}the military command center, and as well as the commander-in-chief, 836 00:57:59,726 --> 00:58:02,394 order the Maddox to return the next day, 837 00:58:02,395 --> 00:58:07,108 now accompanied by USS Turner Joy, which is another US military destroyer. 838 00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:12,822 {\an8}Weather goes south on them very fast. 839 00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:17,327 Wave heights are now at about six feet. 840 00:58:18,244 --> 00:58:21,247 Low visibility. Rain squalls moving through the area. 841 00:58:22,332 --> 00:58:24,292 The tensions were pretty high. 842 00:58:25,126 --> 00:58:29,839 When the US Navy destroyers start seeing radar signals approaching the vessels... 843 00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:35,594 there's some confusion because the blips are moving really fast, 844 00:58:35,595 --> 00:58:37,346 and they're coming from different directions 845 00:58:37,347 --> 00:58:38,764 and then sometimes disappearing. 846 00:58:38,765 --> 00:58:40,849 But also, the sonar operators are starting to hear 847 00:58:40,850 --> 00:58:43,144 propeller noises and torpedo noises in the water. 848 00:58:43,728 --> 00:58:46,396 And so the crew and the officers on board the two ships 849 00:58:46,397 --> 00:58:48,983 were getting pretty nervous that they were under attack. 850 00:58:50,735 --> 00:58:52,694 Mr. President, we, uh, just got a, uh, report 851 00:58:52,695 --> 00:58:54,780 from the commander of that task force out there 852 00:58:54,781 --> 00:58:57,616 that they have sighted two unidentified vessels 853 00:58:57,617 --> 00:59:02,622 and three unidentified prop aircraft in the vicinity of the destroyers. 854 00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:06,750 Uh, what else do we have out there? 855 00:59:06,751 --> 00:59:09,461 We have ample forces to respond 856 00:59:09,462 --> 00:59:11,547 not only to these attacks on the destroyers 857 00:59:11,548 --> 00:59:13,173 but also to retaliate, 858 00:59:13,174 --> 00:59:16,886 should you wish to do so, against targets on the land. 859 00:59:19,764 --> 00:59:23,433 {\an8}The message traffic back and forth was, "Give me proof 860 00:59:23,434 --> 00:59:26,144 {\an8}that there was a torpedo there." 861 00:59:26,145 --> 00:59:28,647 {\an8}"Give me some flotsam, a cushion, 862 00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:31,234 anything that would say that there was a torpedo boat." 863 00:59:33,319 --> 00:59:35,446 We did not see one torpedo boat. 864 00:59:37,824 --> 00:59:40,075 At this point, there was some uncertainty 865 00:59:40,076 --> 00:59:42,911 about whether or not an attack had actually occurred. 866 00:59:42,912 --> 00:59:45,707 This is now late at night on August 4th. 867 00:59:46,457 --> 00:59:50,085 And the signals intelligence on board the ships pick up messages 868 00:59:50,086 --> 00:59:52,921 {\an8}from the North Vietnamese Navy that they had struck 869 00:59:52,922 --> 00:59:55,424 {\an8}some of the enemy vessels that were in the area. 870 00:59:55,425 --> 00:59:58,595 {\an8}And it validates everything that they had suspected at this point. 871 01:00:00,138 --> 01:00:03,682 {\an8}I think I might get, uh, Dean Rusk and Mac Bundy, have 'em come over here, 872 01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:06,102 {\an8}and we'll go over these retaliatory actions. 873 01:00:07,854 --> 01:00:12,358 {\an8}I was attached to a squadron of A-4 Skyhawks. 874 01:00:14,068 --> 01:00:16,863 {\an8}The next thing I know, I was going on a mission. 875 01:00:19,532 --> 01:00:23,202 {\an8}Our targets were along the coast of Vietnam, 876 01:00:23,911 --> 01:00:26,997 the naval bases on the northern part, 877 01:00:26,998 --> 01:00:30,293 like around Hải Phòng and north towards China. 878 01:00:37,008 --> 01:00:39,052 I went in and hit my target. 879 01:00:40,386 --> 01:00:42,889 And as I was exiting, I got hit. 880 01:00:45,933 --> 01:00:48,477 And I pulled the ejection curtain. 881 01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:50,938 I felt the chute pop open. 882 01:00:51,814 --> 01:00:53,524 And I was in the water. 883 01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:56,568 And as I tried to swim away, 884 01:00:56,569 --> 01:00:58,904 looked around, and here was a fishing boat. 885 01:00:58,905 --> 01:01:03,493 And it had about three rifles... pointing at me. 886 01:01:04,410 --> 01:01:06,787 {\an8}They hauled me aboard. They stripped me. 887 01:01:06,788 --> 01:01:10,332 {\an8}They wrapped me up with a rope like a-- a knot. 888 01:01:10,333 --> 01:01:14,671 That was the beginning of a... a long captivity. 889 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,090 The Pentagon said two pilots were lost. 890 01:01:18,091 --> 01:01:20,635 One was reported to be a prisoner of the Reds. 891 01:01:23,346 --> 01:01:26,598 {\an8}All this message traffic and all these accounts were top secret 892 01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:29,977 {\an8}and kept classified for the better part of about 40 years. 893 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,437 {\an8}But as it turns out, 894 01:01:32,438 --> 01:01:34,899 {\an8}the attack on August 4th never happened. 895 01:01:36,818 --> 01:01:40,530 {\an8}Their radars reflecting off the sea waves and the low cloud level... 896 01:01:43,157 --> 01:01:45,033 the sonar operators were picking up 897 01:01:45,034 --> 01:01:47,954 their own rudder noises and own propeller noises. 898 01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:51,123 As President Johnson later said, 899 01:01:51,124 --> 01:01:54,043 "The damn sailors were shootin' at flying fish." 900 01:01:56,087 --> 01:01:58,422 As for the North Vietnamese message, 901 01:01:58,423 --> 01:01:59,631 they were transmitting 902 01:01:59,632 --> 01:02:02,676 a follow-up message to the August 2nd attack 903 01:02:02,677 --> 01:02:04,428 in which they had the initial confrontation 904 01:02:04,429 --> 01:02:06,055 just with USS Maddox. 905 01:02:06,723 --> 01:02:08,640 So it was not about the events 906 01:02:08,641 --> 01:02:11,728 that supposedly occurred on the night of August 4th. 907 01:02:13,062 --> 01:02:15,939 I think Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara had doubts 908 01:02:15,940 --> 01:02:17,859 about the attack on August 4th. 909 01:02:19,527 --> 01:02:22,946 But instead of being honest and truthful about what happened, 910 01:02:22,947 --> 01:02:24,990 McNamara misrepresents it to Congress 911 01:02:24,991 --> 01:02:27,285 as well as misrepresents it to members of the press. 912 01:02:28,828 --> 01:02:30,954 They were reporting they were avoiding torpedoes 913 01:02:30,955 --> 01:02:34,375 and that they had sunk one of the attacking patrol craft. 914 01:02:35,501 --> 01:02:38,963 And so he really opens the door for President Johnson to escalate the war. 915 01:02:52,310 --> 01:02:56,606 Even though attacks didn't transpire on August 4th, 1964, 916 01:02:58,024 --> 01:03:02,527 LBJ used the pretense of these attacks to go to Congress 917 01:03:02,528 --> 01:03:06,990 to seek what we now know as a blank check to go to war in South Vietnam. 918 01:03:06,991 --> 01:03:09,493 That is the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. 919 01:03:09,494 --> 01:03:13,663 In each house, the resolution was promptly examined in committee 920 01:03:13,664 --> 01:03:15,166 and reported for action. 921 01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:18,961 In each house, the resolution was passed on Friday last, 922 01:03:19,796 --> 01:03:24,050 with a total of 502 votes in support and two opposed. 923 01:03:25,218 --> 01:03:27,302 The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution is unusual 924 01:03:27,303 --> 01:03:30,389 because it is not a declaration of war, 925 01:03:31,516 --> 01:03:33,600 but it gave full authority to the United States 926 01:03:33,601 --> 01:03:36,394 to assist the South Vietnamese government 927 01:03:36,395 --> 01:03:40,316 in defending its territories from aggression from the North. 928 01:03:43,236 --> 01:03:47,657 To any armed attack, our forces will reply. 929 01:03:48,407 --> 01:03:52,411 {\an8}To any in Southeast Asia who ask our help in defending their freedom, 930 01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:54,580 we're going to give it. 931 01:03:56,582 --> 01:03:59,418 {\an8}I have ordered to Vietnam the Air Mobile Division 932 01:04:00,336 --> 01:04:04,674 {\an8}and certain other forces which will raise our fighting strength almost immediately. 933 01:04:09,387 --> 01:04:12,013 Operation Rolling Thunder was a strategic bombing campaign 934 01:04:12,014 --> 01:04:13,432 against North Vietnam... 935 01:04:24,777 --> 01:04:28,363 ...to use massive amounts of air power 936 01:04:28,364 --> 01:04:31,409 {\an8}to break the enemy's willpower. 937 01:04:33,452 --> 01:04:35,787 In public, the Johnson administration, 938 01:04:35,788 --> 01:04:37,330 like the Kennedy administration, 939 01:04:37,331 --> 01:04:41,627 was officially optimistic about their ability to win the war. 940 01:04:43,254 --> 01:04:46,299 Even though they entertained doubts at the highest level. 941 01:04:47,925 --> 01:04:52,804 It's going to be difficult for us to, very long, prosecute effectively 942 01:04:52,805 --> 01:04:54,682 a war that far away from home. 943 01:05:10,948 --> 01:05:13,659 I arrived about a week after I was shot down. 944 01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:19,081 I was the first American pilot captured in North Vietnam. 945 01:05:19,749 --> 01:05:23,878 {\an8}I was flown-- flown my last mission on, uh, 5 August 1964. 946 01:05:24,670 --> 01:05:27,672 {\an8}I was, uh, put into a seven-foot by seven-foot cell 947 01:05:27,673 --> 01:05:32,887 {\an8}with high walls and, uh, a little ventilation window. 948 01:05:34,430 --> 01:05:39,060 The concrete beds had wooden blocks like-- like leg restraints. 949 01:05:40,561 --> 01:05:44,857 Sitting there five, six days without sleep, food, and water. 950 01:05:45,483 --> 01:05:46,984 Some guys didn't survive. 951 01:05:50,196 --> 01:05:52,364 Hanoi has used the prisoners of war 952 01:05:52,365 --> 01:05:53,990 for its propaganda purposes 953 01:05:53,991 --> 01:05:56,952 {\an8}almost from the day the first captive was shot down 954 01:05:56,953 --> 01:05:59,705 {\an8}on the first day of US bombing of the North. 955 01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:04,251 Then there was the Hanoi March. 956 01:06:06,462 --> 01:06:07,838 They took 50 of us. 957 01:06:09,048 --> 01:06:10,883 They loaded us up in trucks. 958 01:06:15,054 --> 01:06:18,474 {\an8}And the next thing we know, we were on the perimeter of a park. 959 01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:23,729 And they started marching us. 960 01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:27,273 As far as you could see is thousands of people. 961 01:06:27,274 --> 01:06:28,566 They were shouting. 962 01:06:28,567 --> 01:06:31,319 North Vietnam paraded this group of prisoners 963 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,029 through the streets of Hanoi. 964 01:06:33,030 --> 01:06:37,868 A parade designed to depict them as humbled and impotent air pilots. 965 01:06:40,037 --> 01:06:42,665 Somebody hit me, and I staggered down. 966 01:06:44,208 --> 01:06:46,292 I remember looking at the guys ahead of me, 967 01:06:46,293 --> 01:06:48,671 that they were getting the hell beat out of 'em. 968 01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:51,589 It just went on and on, 969 01:06:51,590 --> 01:06:54,010 and I didn't know if we were going to make it. 970 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,309 And I realized that these are not good-- good times coming up. 971 01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:07,940 The longer we stayed, the worse it got. 972 01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:17,408 It was the first real shock Americans got of what the reality of war is. 973 01:07:22,955 --> 01:07:24,331 What's our role? 974 01:07:25,958 --> 01:07:29,086 What does it mean to be the United States? 975 01:07:30,671 --> 01:07:32,548 What does it mean to be an American? 976 01:07:33,466 --> 01:07:36,969 To be the most powerful nation on the globe? 977 01:07:38,554 --> 01:07:42,058 Vietnam forced a reckoning around those questions. 978 01:07:52,068 --> 01:07:54,945 In the United States, we call it the Vietnam War. 979 01:07:55,738 --> 01:07:58,407 But in Vietnam, they call it the American War. 980 01:08:00,034 --> 01:08:04,663 There are vastly different interpretations of the same set of facts. 981 01:08:05,873 --> 01:08:07,457 To the West, it's just a movie. 982 01:08:07,458 --> 01:08:08,750 {\an8}Put it on the camp! 983 01:08:08,751 --> 01:08:10,461 {\an8}A John Wayne movie. 984 01:08:14,131 --> 01:08:16,425 But to the village, it's real. 985 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,014 It's just so sad and suffering, 986 01:08:23,015 --> 01:08:26,268 the people who have nothing to do with the politics. 987 01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:29,897 Everybody killing everybody. 988 01:08:35,611 --> 01:08:39,322 Ooh, a storm is threatening 989 01:08:39,323 --> 01:08:42,535 My very life today 990 01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:46,914 If I don't get some shelter 991 01:08:47,414 --> 01:08:50,501 Ooh yeah, I'm gonna fade away 992 01:08:51,627 --> 01:08:54,255 War, children 993 01:08:55,214 --> 01:08:59,175 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 994 01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:02,346 War, children 995 01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:07,351 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 996 01:09:15,901 --> 01:09:19,446 Ooh, see the fire is sweepin' 997 01:09:20,072 --> 01:09:23,159 Our very street today 998 01:09:24,118 --> 01:09:27,829 Burns like a red coal carpet 999 01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:31,125 Mad bull lost your way 1000 01:09:32,126 --> 01:09:34,752 War, children 1001 01:09:34,753 --> 01:09:35,837 Yeah 1002 01:09:35,838 --> 01:09:39,674 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1003 01:09:39,675 --> 01:09:43,053 War, children 1004 01:09:44,096 --> 01:09:47,766 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1005 01:10:28,682 --> 01:10:32,102 Rape, murder 1006 01:10:32,603 --> 01:10:36,315 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1007 01:10:36,941 --> 01:10:40,360 Rape, murder, yeah 1008 01:10:40,361 --> 01:10:44,365 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1009 01:10:44,990 --> 01:10:47,701 Rape, murder 1010 01:10:48,494 --> 01:10:52,455 It's just a shot away It's just a shot away 1011 01:10:52,456 --> 01:10:55,918 Yeah 1012 01:11:01,006 --> 01:11:04,343 {\an8}Mmm, the floods is threatening 1013 01:11:04,885 --> 01:11:07,763 {\an8}My very life today 1014 01:11:08,931 --> 01:11:12,434 Gimme, gimme shelter 1015 01:11:12,935 --> 01:11:15,854 Or I'm gonna fade away... 88178

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.