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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:01,441 --> 00:02:02,941 Hey, thanks for coming. 2 00:02:03,315 --> 00:02:05,691 All messed up again. 3 00:02:06,232 --> 00:02:07,733 Okay, so what's the victim's Name? 4 00:02:08,066 --> 00:02:09,566 Uh... Alex woods. 5 00:02:09,858 --> 00:02:10,983 He's five. 6 00:02:11,482 --> 00:02:11,733 And when'd he go in the water? 7 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:12,733 And when'd he go in the water? 8 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:14,275 About 10:00 this morning. 9 00:02:14,733 --> 00:02:16,191 - 10:00 this morning? - yeah. 10 00:02:16,649 --> 00:02:17,607 Where'd he go in, over here? 11 00:02:17,941 --> 00:02:19,233 Uh, actually, no, 12 00:02:19,983 --> 00:02:20,983 Over on this other pier here, Where the red flag is. 13 00:02:21,358 --> 00:02:23,233 - oh yeah. - yeah. 14 00:02:23,649 --> 00:02:23,733 And where's the mother? 15 00:02:23,733 --> 00:02:25,733 And where's the mother? 16 00:02:26,525 --> 00:02:28,734 That's her on the other pier There with her sister. 17 00:02:29,483 --> 00:02:29,734 Okay. So what are the Circumstances here? 18 00:02:29,734 --> 00:02:30,191 Okay. So what are the Circumstances here? 19 00:02:30,525 --> 00:02:31,400 The mother said 20 00:02:31,899 --> 00:02:32,734 He was climbing up on the pier, 21 00:02:33,316 --> 00:02:34,275 He was looking down into the River, 22 00:02:34,734 --> 00:02:35,233 She looks away for a second, 23 00:02:35,692 --> 00:02:35,734 She looks back and he's gone. 24 00:02:35,734 --> 00:02:36,150 She looks back and he's gone. 25 00:02:36,567 --> 00:02:37,650 Okay, so she looks away. 26 00:02:37,984 --> 00:02:38,942 And the river? 27 00:02:39,608 --> 00:02:40,942 How's the river where he went in Over there? 28 00:02:41,567 --> 00:02:41,734 Uh, the water's pretty deep Right there. 29 00:02:41,734 --> 00:02:43,109 Uh, the water's pretty deep Right there. 30 00:02:43,817 --> 00:02:45,109 You know the current, it doesn't Look like much, 31 00:02:45,734 --> 00:02:47,734 - but it's pretty wicked. - very Wicked. 32 00:02:48,442 --> 00:02:49,859 So you're thinking that it's the Current, then, 33 00:02:50,734 --> 00:02:51,734 That held the kid under, Probably, and that's what Happened? 34 00:02:52,359 --> 00:02:53,734 Yeah, she looked in the river Right away, 35 00:02:54,359 --> 00:02:55,692 - but she couldn't see him. - oh Yeah? 36 00:02:56,443 --> 00:02:57,526 What about the divers? I don't See any divers here. 37 00:02:57,984 --> 00:02:58,900 They can't see in this water. 38 00:02:59,234 --> 00:02:59,734 The ocean tides 39 00:02:59,734 --> 00:03:00,734 The ocean tides 40 00:03:01,443 --> 00:03:03,443 - and the river current Together... - okay. 41 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:05,735 The body could be anywhere. 42 00:03:06,484 --> 00:03:08,025 Okay, so he's five years old, He's in the water, 43 00:03:08,693 --> 00:03:10,109 His chance for survival is, What, 30 minutes? 44 00:03:10,818 --> 00:03:11,735 Generally, we give up hope Finding anybody alive 45 00:03:11,735 --> 00:03:13,609 Generally, we give up hope Finding anybody alive 46 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:15,526 After about four or five hours 47 00:03:16,193 --> 00:03:17,484 - in water this temperature, So... - really? 48 00:03:18,193 --> 00:03:19,651 Yeah, we were just hoping maybe He got caught up 49 00:03:20,193 --> 00:03:21,651 Along the shore or the log Booms, 50 00:03:22,235 --> 00:03:23,152 But we haven't seen a sign of Him. 51 00:03:23,651 --> 00:03:23,735 You've been at it for, what now, 52 00:03:23,735 --> 00:03:24,735 You've been at it for, what now, 53 00:03:25,193 --> 00:03:26,735 - maybe six hours? - right. 54 00:03:29,569 --> 00:03:29,735 What are you going to do? Are You going to continue to look, Or... 55 00:03:29,735 --> 00:03:31,277 What are you going to do? Are You going to continue to look, Or... 56 00:03:31,860 --> 00:03:32,985 We're going to have to call it Quits. 57 00:03:33,402 --> 00:03:34,694 - does she know? - no. 58 00:03:35,193 --> 00:03:35,736 - okay, I'll tell her. - thanks. 59 00:03:35,736 --> 00:03:36,736 - okay, I'll tell her. - thanks. 60 00:03:37,569 --> 00:03:39,402 - what's the boy's name again? - Alex, alex woods. 61 00:03:39,902 --> 00:03:41,736 - the mother's sara. - thanks. 62 00:03:41,736 --> 00:03:41,985 - the mother's sara. - thanks. 63 00:03:45,152 --> 00:03:46,736 Mrs. Woods? 64 00:03:46,944 --> 00:03:47,736 Yes? 65 00:03:47,736 --> 00:03:49,360 Yes? 66 00:03:49,861 --> 00:03:51,111 Hi. My name's dominic da vinci. 67 00:03:51,736 --> 00:03:53,736 I'm with the vancouver coroner's Office. 68 00:03:53,736 --> 00:03:54,652 I'm with the vancouver coroner's Office. 69 00:03:55,027 --> 00:03:56,111 Did they find him? 70 00:03:56,485 --> 00:03:59,652 No, ma'am, not yet. 71 00:03:59,986 --> 00:04:01,027 Why are you here 72 00:04:01,486 --> 00:04:02,736 If they haven't found him? 73 00:04:03,153 --> 00:04:04,861 Well, in some situations, 74 00:04:05,653 --> 00:04:05,736 The investigation begins before A body's been retrieved. 75 00:04:05,736 --> 00:04:08,902 The investigation begins before A body's been retrieved. 76 00:04:09,403 --> 00:04:10,902 Situations like this, normally. 77 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:11,737 You're here to tell me 78 00:04:11,737 --> 00:04:12,737 You're here to tell me 79 00:04:13,278 --> 00:04:14,027 That he's officially dead? 80 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:16,945 Yes, I am. 81 00:04:17,403 --> 00:04:17,737 I'm very sorry for your loss. 82 00:04:17,737 --> 00:04:19,278 I'm very sorry for your loss. 83 00:04:26,570 --> 00:04:27,737 How much longer 84 00:04:28,403 --> 00:04:29,737 Are they going to continue Searching? 85 00:04:30,154 --> 00:04:31,362 Well, we're not. 86 00:04:31,945 --> 00:04:33,237 We decided that we're wrapping It up. 87 00:04:33,653 --> 00:04:34,737 No, I can't accept that. 88 00:04:35,195 --> 00:04:35,737 I want my son, 89 00:04:35,737 --> 00:04:36,737 I want my son, 90 00:04:37,362 --> 00:04:38,487 And I want you to keep looking. 91 00:04:39,070 --> 00:04:40,237 The currents here are very Strong-- 92 00:04:40,778 --> 00:04:41,738 What, you think I don't know That? 93 00:04:41,738 --> 00:04:42,154 What, you think I don't know That? 94 00:04:42,612 --> 00:04:45,112 - I know that. - I'm sorry. 95 00:04:48,028 --> 00:04:51,404 It's the money, isn't it? It's The cost? 96 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,738 It's just not my call. 97 00:04:53,738 --> 00:04:55,738 It's just not my call. 98 00:04:56,113 --> 00:04:57,779 I'm sorry. 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,738 So would you be up to answering 100 00:04:59,738 --> 00:04:59,779 So would you be up to answering 101 00:05:00,446 --> 00:05:01,904 - a few questions for me? - I Don't think so. 102 00:05:02,487 --> 00:05:04,280 - it would really help. - no. No, no. 103 00:05:04,696 --> 00:05:05,738 - it's okay. - thank you. 104 00:05:05,738 --> 00:05:06,988 - it's okay. - thank you. 105 00:05:07,238 --> 00:05:08,738 Go ahead. 106 00:05:09,238 --> 00:05:10,363 Okay, there's just a few things 107 00:05:10,863 --> 00:05:11,738 That if I knew they might help. 108 00:05:11,738 --> 00:05:14,739 That if I knew they might help. 109 00:05:15,405 --> 00:05:16,321 Where were you exactly, now, When... 110 00:05:16,780 --> 00:05:17,739 When he went in the water, 111 00:05:18,155 --> 00:05:19,238 Where were you, how far? 112 00:05:19,739 --> 00:05:21,363 I was just... Where we are now. 113 00:05:21,864 --> 00:05:23,363 Like, to the edge of the dock? 114 00:05:23,780 --> 00:05:25,280 Okay, and what was he doing? 115 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:26,947 Was he playing, running around, 116 00:05:27,530 --> 00:05:29,739 Acting like a goof like kids Might do? 117 00:05:30,405 --> 00:05:33,905 He was just standing at the end Of the dock, 118 00:05:34,655 --> 00:05:35,739 And he was just looking at the Ripples in the water. 119 00:05:35,739 --> 00:05:39,947 And he was just looking at the Ripples in the water. 120 00:05:40,531 --> 00:05:41,739 Would you mind taking a walk With me? 121 00:05:41,739 --> 00:05:41,947 Would you mind taking a walk With me? 122 00:05:42,448 --> 00:05:43,739 Maybe if we walk away from here, 123 00:05:44,448 --> 00:05:44,739 And let's just go over to the Other dock 124 00:05:45,239 --> 00:05:46,531 Where he went in, 125 00:05:47,281 --> 00:05:47,740 And just walk through exactly What happened, okay? 126 00:05:47,740 --> 00:05:49,531 And just walk through exactly What happened, okay? 127 00:05:49,740 --> 00:05:51,531 Okay. 128 00:05:51,781 --> 00:05:52,865 Thanks. 129 00:05:53,239 --> 00:05:53,740 I think he's okay. 130 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:54,906 I think he's okay. 131 00:06:12,407 --> 00:06:13,740 The impact sent him like a Rocket 132 00:06:14,282 --> 00:06:15,115 Through the windshield, 133 00:06:15,656 --> 00:06:16,906 And he had massive head Injuries. 134 00:06:17,574 --> 00:06:17,740 - you should see them-- brutal. - where was that? 135 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:19,740 - you should see them-- brutal. - where was that? 136 00:06:20,574 --> 00:06:22,157 Right at the intersection of Hastings and kamloops. 137 00:06:22,657 --> 00:06:23,741 The car slammed into the ass end 138 00:06:24,323 --> 00:06:25,407 Of one of those jumbo pickups. 139 00:06:25,907 --> 00:06:27,490 Any witnesses to the accident? 140 00:06:28,282 --> 00:06:29,741 They're all saying that the Pickup stopped at the light, 141 00:06:29,741 --> 00:06:30,741 They're all saying that the Pickup stopped at the light, 142 00:06:31,532 --> 00:06:33,532 But the car drove right into Him, full speed, 143 00:06:33,991 --> 00:06:35,199 Didn't even bother to brake. 144 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:35,741 You're saying he was a doctor? 145 00:06:35,741 --> 00:06:36,741 You're saying he was a doctor? 146 00:06:37,199 --> 00:06:38,741 Yeah, ian stroud. 147 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,741 He turned 40 today. 148 00:06:42,241 --> 00:06:43,741 There was massive trauma 149 00:06:44,490 --> 00:06:45,866 Where his head went through the Windshield, 150 00:06:46,615 --> 00:06:47,741 But you can also see, on the Right side of his skull, 151 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:48,533 But you can also see, on the Right side of his skull, 152 00:06:48,949 --> 00:06:50,658 There's an exit wound. 153 00:06:51,074 --> 00:06:52,158 Oh, yeah. There it is. 154 00:06:52,782 --> 00:06:53,742 And on the other side of the Skull, here, 155 00:06:53,742 --> 00:06:53,907 And on the other side of the Skull, here, 156 00:06:54,324 --> 00:06:55,742 There's an entry wound. 157 00:06:56,616 --> 00:06:57,742 There's no way you would have Caught that on the scene. 158 00:06:58,366 --> 00:06:59,742 His head was too damaged from The impact. 159 00:06:59,742 --> 00:07:00,408 His head was too damaged from The impact. 160 00:07:00,991 --> 00:07:02,199 I discovered it during the Autopsy. 161 00:07:02,575 --> 00:07:03,700 So the bullet came in 162 00:07:04,283 --> 00:07:05,158 Through the open driver's side Window, 163 00:07:05,742 --> 00:07:06,742 It hits him, he dies Instantaneously, 164 00:07:07,408 --> 00:07:08,408 And that's why he slams into the Pickup, yeah? 165 00:07:09,075 --> 00:07:11,742 Any idea what the weapon might Have been here? 166 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,992 Something high-powered-- 167 00:07:13,491 --> 00:07:14,242 Handgun, rifle, could be either. 168 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:15,742 Yeah? 169 00:07:16,367 --> 00:07:17,742 What about the angle of entry or Exit? 170 00:07:18,616 --> 00:07:19,742 Without knowing the exact Position of his head when hit, 171 00:07:20,159 --> 00:07:21,367 It's speculation. 172 00:07:22,075 --> 00:07:23,242 You know, the magic bullet, Where'd it come from? 173 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:23,742 Where's the doctor's car now? 174 00:07:23,742 --> 00:07:24,534 Where's the doctor's car now? 175 00:07:24,908 --> 00:07:26,451 It's at the impound. 176 00:07:27,284 --> 00:07:28,867 We should get that over to the Forensic's garage right away. 177 00:07:29,701 --> 00:07:29,743 - hey, did you notify the next Of kin? - doctor's wife? Yeah. 178 00:07:29,743 --> 00:07:31,242 - hey, did you notify the next Of kin? - doctor's wife? Yeah. 179 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:33,409 - she's coming down. - she Didn't happen to say 180 00:07:33,826 --> 00:07:34,951 What the doctor was doing 181 00:07:35,617 --> 00:07:35,743 Or where he was going, or Anything like that? 182 00:07:35,743 --> 00:07:36,743 Or where he was going, or Anything like that? 183 00:07:37,284 --> 00:07:38,242 His practice is at 184 00:07:38,826 --> 00:07:40,160 The corner of hastings and Nanaimo. 185 00:07:40,534 --> 00:07:41,743 They open at 9:00. 186 00:07:41,743 --> 00:07:41,993 They open at 9:00. 187 00:07:42,701 --> 00:07:44,243 The accident was at 8:30, so we Kind of assume 188 00:07:44,743 --> 00:07:46,285 That he was on his way to work. 189 00:07:47,076 --> 00:07:47,743 Yeah, well, when she gets in Here, would you let us know? 190 00:07:47,743 --> 00:07:48,576 Yeah, well, when she gets in Here, would you let us know? 191 00:07:49,410 --> 00:07:49,743 - tell her that we need to hook Up with her. - yeah, okay. 192 00:07:50,368 --> 00:07:51,201 Winston, I'm going to need 193 00:07:51,659 --> 00:07:52,659 That list of witnesses there. 194 00:07:53,368 --> 00:07:53,743 Yeah, yeah, man, I'm faxing that All over to you. 195 00:07:54,034 --> 00:07:54,784 Beautiful. 196 00:07:55,201 --> 00:07:56,285 Hey, sunny, nice catch. 197 00:07:56,826 --> 00:07:58,201 We should head over to the Scene, 198 00:07:58,909 --> 00:07:59,744 - then run down, take a look at The car. - yeah. 199 00:07:59,744 --> 00:08:00,744 - then run down, take a look at The car. - yeah. 200 00:08:01,785 --> 00:08:03,243 You know, I'm going to need to Get some food somewhere in There. 201 00:08:03,702 --> 00:08:05,160 Oh, hey, you got any money? 202 00:08:05,827 --> 00:08:07,744 I think I left my wallet in my Other pants. 203 00:08:08,243 --> 00:08:10,076 Better broke than naked. 204 00:08:28,910 --> 00:08:29,744 Yes? 205 00:08:30,453 --> 00:08:31,327 Detective kosmo, vancouver Homicide. 206 00:08:31,744 --> 00:08:33,578 Yes. How can I help you? 207 00:08:34,161 --> 00:08:35,369 I'm looking for mr. Lloyd Langston. 208 00:08:35,869 --> 00:08:37,035 He moved about three months ago. 209 00:08:37,661 --> 00:08:39,035 Well, did he say where he might Be going, 210 00:08:39,536 --> 00:08:41,244 Or leave a forwarding address? 211 00:08:41,995 --> 00:08:43,745 I know he left a mailing address With the post office. 212 00:08:44,411 --> 00:08:45,578 They should be able to help you. 213 00:08:46,036 --> 00:08:47,162 Well, thanks for your time. 214 00:08:47,745 --> 00:08:49,745 Would you come in a minute, Please? 215 00:08:50,703 --> 00:08:53,745 - there's something I have to Talk to you about. - sure. 216 00:08:53,745 --> 00:08:53,786 - there's something I have to Talk to you about. - sure. 217 00:08:57,536 --> 00:08:59,036 So what's on your mind? 218 00:08:59,745 --> 00:09:01,828 Did you see the man working on His car out there? 219 00:09:02,245 --> 00:09:03,162 I noticed him, uh-huh. 220 00:09:03,579 --> 00:09:04,745 Well, that's mr. Turner. 221 00:09:05,203 --> 00:09:05,746 The strangest thing happened 222 00:09:05,746 --> 00:09:06,245 The strangest thing happened 223 00:09:06,662 --> 00:09:07,537 The other night, tuesday. 224 00:09:07,953 --> 00:09:09,871 Would you like some tea? 225 00:09:10,287 --> 00:09:11,746 No, I'm fine. Thank you. 226 00:09:11,746 --> 00:09:11,829 No, I'm fine. Thank you. 227 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,078 All right. 228 00:09:13,662 --> 00:09:14,746 Well, the other night, tuesday Night, 229 00:09:15,287 --> 00:09:16,328 At mr. Turner's house, 230 00:09:16,912 --> 00:09:17,746 There was the most violent Argument. 231 00:09:17,746 --> 00:09:18,620 There was the most violent Argument. 232 00:09:19,203 --> 00:09:21,328 Their dog was barking and Barking, 233 00:09:21,996 --> 00:09:23,746 And I heard mr. Turner yelling At mrs. Turner, 234 00:09:23,746 --> 00:09:25,746 And I heard mr. Turner yelling At mrs. Turner, 235 00:09:26,329 --> 00:09:27,829 And mrs. Turner was yelling, 236 00:09:28,413 --> 00:09:29,746 And then everything just went Quiet, 237 00:09:29,746 --> 00:09:29,954 And then everything just went Quiet, 238 00:09:30,455 --> 00:09:31,746 Like the sound was switched off. 239 00:09:32,371 --> 00:09:33,704 About what time was this Argument? 240 00:09:33,996 --> 00:09:35,163 Around 11:00. 241 00:09:35,746 --> 00:09:37,288 Hmm... And did you call the Police? 242 00:09:37,663 --> 00:09:38,871 No, not this time. 243 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:40,288 Not this time. 244 00:09:40,954 --> 00:09:41,747 You've called before when they Were arguing? 245 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:41,830 You've called before when they Were arguing? 246 00:09:42,329 --> 00:09:43,747 Yes, but the last time I called, 247 00:09:44,455 --> 00:09:45,788 Mr. Turner yelled obscenities at Me. 248 00:09:46,413 --> 00:09:47,747 This particular argument the Other night, 249 00:09:47,747 --> 00:09:48,121 This particular argument the Other night, 250 00:09:48,747 --> 00:09:50,288 Were they threatening each Other, or... 251 00:09:50,913 --> 00:09:52,788 About an hour after I heard them Yelling, 252 00:09:53,413 --> 00:09:53,747 I saw mr. Turner carrying Something heavy 253 00:09:53,747 --> 00:09:55,747 I saw mr. Turner carrying Something heavy 254 00:09:56,329 --> 00:09:58,621 From his house out into the Backyard. 255 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,747 Could you see what it was? 256 00:09:59,747 --> 00:10:00,413 Could you see what it was? 257 00:10:00,788 --> 00:10:02,913 No, it was too dark. 258 00:10:03,414 --> 00:10:05,038 This is the part that alarms me. 259 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:05,747 I haven't seen mrs. Turner Since, 260 00:10:05,747 --> 00:10:06,747 I haven't seen mrs. Turner Since, 261 00:10:07,122 --> 00:10:08,289 And I would see her. 262 00:10:08,955 --> 00:10:11,080 Every morning, she works out in Her garden. 263 00:10:11,622 --> 00:10:11,747 Well, I think if you'd be Willing 264 00:10:11,747 --> 00:10:13,289 Well, I think if you'd be Willing 265 00:10:14,164 --> 00:10:16,205 To file a domestic violence Complaint, I can investigate This. 266 00:10:16,706 --> 00:10:17,748 But then he'll know it was me. 267 00:10:17,748 --> 00:10:19,414 But then he'll know it was me. 268 00:10:19,873 --> 00:10:21,748 He doesn't have to know that. 269 00:10:23,622 --> 00:10:23,748 Canvass all the stores and Buildings along here, 270 00:10:23,748 --> 00:10:25,748 Canvass all the stores and Buildings along here, 271 00:10:26,289 --> 00:10:27,748 On both sides of the street, 272 00:10:28,456 --> 00:10:29,748 See if anybody saw somebody with A firearm 273 00:10:30,206 --> 00:10:31,914 On the sidewalk or any place. 274 00:10:32,414 --> 00:10:33,956 Check for anything suspicious. 275 00:10:34,456 --> 00:10:35,748 Maybe somebody heard a gunshot. 276 00:10:35,748 --> 00:10:36,039 Maybe somebody heard a gunshot. 277 00:10:36,622 --> 00:10:38,165 So where do you figure the Shooter is 278 00:10:38,873 --> 00:10:40,540 If the doctor's coming along Right through here? 279 00:10:41,373 --> 00:10:41,748 Well, it must be in one of those Buildings, or up on a roof. 280 00:10:41,748 --> 00:10:42,540 Well, it must be in one of those Buildings, or up on a roof. 281 00:10:43,081 --> 00:10:44,165 That's a pretty hard shot to Make, 282 00:10:44,707 --> 00:10:46,540 Cutting through traffic like That. 283 00:10:46,956 --> 00:10:47,665 Yeah, a moving target, 284 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:48,832 So whoever this is, 285 00:10:49,415 --> 00:10:50,582 They've obviously had some Practice. 286 00:10:51,206 --> 00:10:52,498 He's just waiting for the Doctor, maybe. 287 00:10:52,874 --> 00:10:53,749 Or maybe it's just 288 00:10:53,749 --> 00:10:54,165 Or maybe it's just 289 00:10:54,623 --> 00:10:56,623 The doctor's not the target. 290 00:10:57,415 --> 00:10:59,749 You mean somebody's waiting to Shoot whoever comes along? 291 00:11:00,248 --> 00:11:01,915 Yeah, just random. 292 00:11:02,582 --> 00:11:05,540 It's lucky it didn't cause a Bigger accident-- 293 00:11:06,415 --> 00:11:08,332 Come right through the Intersection here, and get a big Pileup. 294 00:11:16,124 --> 00:11:17,291 D? 295 00:11:17,499 --> 00:11:17,749 No. 296 00:11:17,749 --> 00:11:18,790 No. 297 00:11:19,374 --> 00:11:20,874 Yeah, you might want a look at This. 298 00:11:21,291 --> 00:11:23,750 - this what? - this file. 299 00:11:24,374 --> 00:11:25,750 I was entering your notes on the Drowning, 300 00:11:26,708 --> 00:11:28,583 And I found a previous entry for The mother, sara woods. 301 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:32,958 She lost another child 302 00:11:33,458 --> 00:11:34,750 Almost exactly five years ago. 303 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:35,750 That's kind of heavy. 304 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:37,750 That's kind of heavy. 305 00:11:38,292 --> 00:11:40,666 What's this, hiking accident? 306 00:11:41,041 --> 00:11:41,750 What else is there? 307 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:42,916 What else is there? 308 00:11:43,167 --> 00:11:43,916 Uh-oh. 309 00:11:44,292 --> 00:11:45,500 Blows to the head, 310 00:11:45,958 --> 00:11:46,875 Which could have been caused 311 00:11:47,333 --> 00:11:47,750 By the fall down the cliff, 312 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:48,500 By the fall down the cliff, 313 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:50,791 Or a blow to the head. 314 00:11:51,292 --> 00:11:53,542 I don't like the smell of this. 315 00:12:00,917 --> 00:12:03,125 You said that you interviewed The mother 316 00:12:03,792 --> 00:12:05,084 And you were satisfied with her Explanation. 317 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:05,751 Right, right, 318 00:12:05,751 --> 00:12:06,751 Right, right, 319 00:12:07,209 --> 00:12:08,500 Then I find out from records 320 00:12:09,084 --> 00:12:10,500 That she's lost a child five Years ago 321 00:12:10,876 --> 00:12:11,751 In a hiking accident. 322 00:12:11,751 --> 00:12:11,792 In a hiking accident. 323 00:12:12,334 --> 00:12:13,751 She never even mentions it to Me. 324 00:12:14,168 --> 00:12:15,542 In that incident, apparently, 325 00:12:16,209 --> 00:12:17,168 The child's walking with her, Tumbles down, 326 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:19,209 Ends up on a ledge on the cliff, There. 327 00:12:19,959 --> 00:12:22,460 Before the rescue team can reach The boy, he's dead. 328 00:12:23,251 --> 00:12:23,751 - that's a traumatic experience. - sure. One child dies, 329 00:12:23,751 --> 00:12:25,752 - that's a traumatic experience. - sure. One child dies, 330 00:12:26,668 --> 00:12:28,001 That's an accident that happens Every place, every day, 331 00:12:28,376 --> 00:12:29,334 And that's tragic. 332 00:12:29,877 --> 00:12:31,126 Yeah, but I mean, a second Child. 333 00:12:31,877 --> 00:12:33,042 You'd think the mother would Exercise extreme caution, 334 00:12:33,501 --> 00:12:34,752 If not paranoid hypercaution, 335 00:12:35,543 --> 00:12:35,752 Given what happened to the first Child. 336 00:12:35,752 --> 00:12:36,293 Given what happened to the first Child. 337 00:12:36,585 --> 00:12:37,752 That's right, 338 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:39,169 So either this is a tragic Coincidence 339 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:40,752 Or it's not, 340 00:12:41,585 --> 00:12:41,752 But I don't want to push this Poor woman over the edge... 341 00:12:41,752 --> 00:12:43,626 But I don't want to push this Poor woman over the edge... 342 00:12:44,460 --> 00:12:46,752 Well, she underwent a thorough Investigation the first time? 343 00:12:47,335 --> 00:12:47,752 A normal coroner's investigation 344 00:12:47,752 --> 00:12:48,043 A normal coroner's investigation 345 00:12:48,419 --> 00:12:49,377 Up in the interior 346 00:12:49,835 --> 00:12:51,085 Where the accident happened. 347 00:12:51,626 --> 00:12:52,793 But you're thinking that now Maybe 348 00:12:53,210 --> 00:12:53,752 That wasn't an accident? 349 00:12:53,752 --> 00:12:54,294 That wasn't an accident? 350 00:12:54,835 --> 00:12:55,710 In light of what's just Happened, 351 00:12:56,294 --> 00:12:57,043 I've got to think that, Absolutely, 352 00:12:57,711 --> 00:12:58,835 And I thought I'd give you the Heads up on it, 353 00:12:59,586 --> 00:12:59,753 Just in case the whole thing Ends up tipping your way, 354 00:12:59,753 --> 00:13:00,753 Just in case the whole thing Ends up tipping your way, 355 00:13:01,669 --> 00:13:01,836 - which I think it might. - Yeah, but there's no body yet. 356 00:13:02,127 --> 00:13:03,252 No, not yet. 357 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,753 So we've got-- and the other Child's been buried, 358 00:13:06,669 --> 00:13:07,711 So we've got one child missing, We've got the other body 359 00:13:08,169 --> 00:13:09,753 Maybe have to be exhumed-- 360 00:13:10,544 --> 00:13:11,753 Now, there's another child in The home, isn't there? 361 00:13:12,128 --> 00:13:13,502 That's right, 362 00:13:13,878 --> 00:13:14,753 Two and a half years old. 363 00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:16,377 Well, look, 364 00:13:17,170 --> 00:13:17,753 Until you find a body in the River, you're speculating. 365 00:13:17,753 --> 00:13:19,336 Until you find a body in the River, you're speculating. 366 00:13:20,128 --> 00:13:21,753 I'd like to have a body. I don't Need to be investigating 367 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:23,753 A third death in this family Down the road. 368 00:13:23,753 --> 00:13:23,961 A third death in this family Down the road. 369 00:13:24,211 --> 00:13:25,211 Not good. 370 00:13:25,711 --> 00:13:26,753 Okay, well, I'll foot the bill 371 00:13:27,503 --> 00:13:28,753 If you want to continue the Search. 372 00:13:29,462 --> 00:13:29,753 That would be very helpful, Sergeant. Thank you. 373 00:13:29,753 --> 00:13:31,462 That would be very helpful, Sergeant. Thank you. 374 00:13:40,170 --> 00:13:41,754 Woman: ian performed abortions. 375 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:42,170 Woman: ian performed abortions. 376 00:13:42,628 --> 00:13:44,253 Was he an abortion doctor? 377 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:46,545 Well, actually, he was an Obstetrician 378 00:13:47,503 --> 00:13:47,754 Who deals with anything to do With pregnancy, including Abortions. 379 00:13:47,754 --> 00:13:49,254 Who deals with anything to do With pregnancy, including Abortions. 380 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:51,962 Was it common knowledge that Your husband performed Abortions? 381 00:13:52,337 --> 00:13:53,545 I'd say it was, yes. 382 00:13:54,129 --> 00:13:55,254 Were there threats because of That? 383 00:13:55,545 --> 00:13:56,337 All the time. 384 00:13:56,795 --> 00:13:57,920 His practice keeps a record. 385 00:13:58,587 --> 00:13:59,754 If you talk to his partner, She'll have it. 386 00:13:59,754 --> 00:14:00,379 If you talk to his partner, She'll have it. 387 00:14:01,254 --> 00:14:02,254 Did your husband take any Precautions against these Threats? 388 00:14:02,629 --> 00:14:03,920 Yeah, he tried to. 389 00:14:04,671 --> 00:14:05,755 He'd vary his route to the Hospital and his office, 390 00:14:05,755 --> 00:14:06,296 He'd vary his route to the Hospital and his office, 391 00:14:06,755 --> 00:14:08,004 Which exit into the building, 392 00:14:08,463 --> 00:14:09,755 Shift his work hours around. 393 00:14:10,379 --> 00:14:11,755 The morning that your husband Died, 394 00:14:11,755 --> 00:14:11,796 The morning that your husband Died, 395 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:14,129 He went straight to his work. Do You know what time that was? 396 00:14:14,713 --> 00:14:16,254 Yeah. He left the house about 8:00. 397 00:14:16,963 --> 00:14:17,755 You mind my asking what you and Your husband did 398 00:14:17,755 --> 00:14:19,337 You mind my asking what you and Your husband did 399 00:14:19,755 --> 00:14:21,337 The night before he died? 400 00:14:21,671 --> 00:14:22,755 Oh, let's see. 401 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:23,755 Ian got in late from the Hospital, 402 00:14:23,755 --> 00:14:25,297 Ian got in late from the Hospital, 403 00:14:25,838 --> 00:14:28,755 We talked for about five Minutes, 404 00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:29,755 He went to bed, and I watched Television. 405 00:14:29,755 --> 00:14:30,880 He went to bed, and I watched Television. 406 00:14:31,629 --> 00:14:33,755 Could you describe the nature of Your relationship? 407 00:14:34,422 --> 00:14:35,755 We're in that stage known as Withdrawal. 408 00:14:35,755 --> 00:14:37,756 We're in that stage known as Withdrawal. 409 00:14:38,589 --> 00:14:39,838 Do you know if your husband was Having any relationships 410 00:14:40,255 --> 00:14:41,756 Outside of the marriage? 411 00:14:41,756 --> 00:14:42,088 Outside of the marriage? 412 00:14:42,464 --> 00:14:44,756 No, not that I knew of. 413 00:14:45,213 --> 00:14:46,672 Did you work at his office? 414 00:14:46,922 --> 00:14:47,756 Uh, no. 415 00:14:47,756 --> 00:14:47,881 Uh, no. 416 00:14:48,464 --> 00:14:50,006 I work at the hospital in the E.R. 417 00:14:50,589 --> 00:14:52,213 Have you seen anybody hanging Around 418 00:14:52,797 --> 00:14:53,756 At the hospital or the Neighborhood 419 00:14:53,756 --> 00:14:54,297 At the hospital or the Neighborhood 420 00:14:54,964 --> 00:14:57,047 - that seemed strange or out of Place? - no. 421 00:15:01,173 --> 00:15:02,964 You know, it's funny. 422 00:15:03,630 --> 00:15:05,756 We talked about this maybe Happening some day, 423 00:15:05,756 --> 00:15:06,756 We talked about this maybe Happening some day, 424 00:15:07,256 --> 00:15:08,922 But I never really believed it. 425 00:15:12,465 --> 00:15:14,465 People campaign against taking a Life, 426 00:15:15,173 --> 00:15:17,757 And yet they go out and they Take life themselves. 427 00:15:17,757 --> 00:15:18,757 And yet they go out and they Take life themselves. 428 00:15:19,173 --> 00:15:20,757 It's just madness. 429 00:15:33,215 --> 00:15:34,757 Excuse me? 430 00:15:35,007 --> 00:15:35,757 Yeah? 431 00:15:35,757 --> 00:15:36,007 Yeah? 432 00:15:36,299 --> 00:15:37,757 Fred turner? 433 00:15:38,215 --> 00:15:39,007 Yeah, that's right. 434 00:15:39,299 --> 00:15:40,673 Aw... Damn! 435 00:15:41,132 --> 00:15:41,757 Damn thing's welded on there. 436 00:15:41,757 --> 00:15:43,257 Damn thing's welded on there. 437 00:15:43,632 --> 00:15:44,758 I'm detective kosmo. 438 00:15:45,466 --> 00:15:47,758 This is detective laboucane, Vancouver homicide. 439 00:15:47,758 --> 00:15:48,340 This is detective laboucane, Vancouver homicide. 440 00:15:48,716 --> 00:15:50,758 Is it about my wife? 441 00:15:50,966 --> 00:15:52,758 Yeah. 442 00:15:53,632 --> 00:15:53,758 - has something happened to her? - we don't know. 443 00:15:53,758 --> 00:15:54,883 - has something happened to her? - we don't know. 444 00:15:55,466 --> 00:15:57,091 That's what we're here to Determine. 445 00:15:57,841 --> 00:15:59,716 - when's the last time you saw Susan? - tuesday night. 446 00:16:00,175 --> 00:16:01,175 Tuesday night around 11:00. 447 00:16:01,549 --> 00:16:02,758 I was watching tv, 448 00:16:03,716 --> 00:16:04,758 She walked past me out the door, I heard the car start, 449 00:16:05,424 --> 00:16:05,758 And then when I woke up that Morning, 450 00:16:05,758 --> 00:16:06,758 And then when I woke up that Morning, 451 00:16:07,175 --> 00:16:08,091 She hadn't come home. 452 00:16:08,549 --> 00:16:09,758 And that didn't worry you? 453 00:16:10,383 --> 00:16:11,758 Well, yeah, but she always does This. 454 00:16:12,383 --> 00:16:13,758 She said she needs her space. 455 00:16:14,467 --> 00:16:16,300 And how long does she usually Stay away? 456 00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:17,759 Well, usually, a couple of days. 457 00:16:17,759 --> 00:16:18,008 Well, usually, a couple of days. 458 00:16:18,550 --> 00:16:19,800 One time, she was gone for a Week. 459 00:16:20,175 --> 00:16:21,216 She doesn't call you, 460 00:16:21,675 --> 00:16:22,467 Let you know where she is? 461 00:16:22,675 --> 00:16:23,759 No. 462 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:24,759 No. 463 00:16:25,425 --> 00:16:27,133 So how long have you two been Married? 464 00:16:27,425 --> 00:16:28,800 Seven years. 465 00:16:29,675 --> 00:16:29,759 - and you and your wife, you get Along okay? - yeah, pretty good. 466 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:31,341 - and you and your wife, you get Along okay? - yeah, pretty good. 467 00:16:31,633 --> 00:16:32,842 Pretty good? 468 00:16:33,383 --> 00:16:35,050 The police have been to your House 469 00:16:35,675 --> 00:16:35,759 Stopping fights between you two, Right? 470 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:37,176 Stopping fights between you two, Right? 471 00:16:37,967 --> 00:16:39,050 Well, we fight sometimes, but we Still love each other. 472 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:40,717 The night your wife left, 473 00:16:41,217 --> 00:16:41,759 Did the two of you have a fight? 474 00:16:42,050 --> 00:16:42,884 No. 475 00:16:43,384 --> 00:16:44,759 We have reports you had a fight. 476 00:16:45,468 --> 00:16:47,384 Several of your neighbours heard You. 477 00:16:47,842 --> 00:16:49,050 Well, we had a little fight, 478 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:50,676 But that's not why she left. 479 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:51,676 We made up after. Then she left. 480 00:16:52,134 --> 00:16:53,342 What about friends or family? 481 00:16:53,967 --> 00:16:55,259 Do you think they might know Where she is? 482 00:16:55,967 --> 00:16:57,760 I don't know, but you could talk To her father. 483 00:16:57,968 --> 00:16:58,760 Okay. 484 00:16:59,301 --> 00:16:59,760 We're going to need that number, 485 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,176 We're going to need that number, 486 00:17:00,634 --> 00:17:01,843 And a list of her friends. 487 00:17:02,551 --> 00:17:04,760 Do you mind if we come in and Have a look around? 488 00:17:05,135 --> 00:17:05,760 Sure, no problem. 489 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:05,968 Sure, no problem. 490 00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:07,718 Be my guest. 491 00:17:08,384 --> 00:17:11,135 I've got nothing to hide. I just Want to help. 492 00:17:11,468 --> 00:17:11,760 Okay, here we go. 493 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,634 Okay, here we go. 494 00:17:13,260 --> 00:17:14,302 This is what's left of your Bullet here. 495 00:17:14,843 --> 00:17:16,718 Armourer says it's a 30-aught-six. 496 00:17:17,010 --> 00:17:17,760 Rifle bullet. 497 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:17,843 Rifle bullet. 498 00:17:18,469 --> 00:17:19,635 Once I check the lands and Grooves on it, 499 00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:20,843 I can give you the make and Model of the weapon. 500 00:17:21,218 --> 00:17:22,968 Where'd you find it? 501 00:17:23,302 --> 00:17:23,761 Come over here. 502 00:17:23,761 --> 00:17:24,093 Come over here. 503 00:17:24,510 --> 00:17:25,469 I'll give you a look-see. 504 00:17:25,885 --> 00:17:27,761 I dug it out of the roof 505 00:17:28,552 --> 00:17:29,719 Above the passenger-door panel Right over here. 506 00:17:30,135 --> 00:17:31,719 Oh, so the shot's fired 507 00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:33,469 From the opposite side of the Street? 508 00:17:34,052 --> 00:17:35,552 It had to come from that Direction. 509 00:17:36,136 --> 00:17:37,469 Hey, was this window down like That? 510 00:17:37,927 --> 00:17:39,219 That's the way it came to me. 511 00:17:39,719 --> 00:17:40,761 Well, we went down to the scene, 512 00:17:41,469 --> 00:17:41,761 And we figure the shooter had to Be 513 00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:42,552 And we figure the shooter had to Be 514 00:17:43,136 --> 00:17:43,761 In one of the buildings across The street, 515 00:17:44,303 --> 00:17:45,136 Or maybe up on a roof. 516 00:17:45,552 --> 00:17:46,761 You can forget the roof. 517 00:17:47,470 --> 00:17:47,761 From the angle of the bullet Through the brain, 518 00:17:47,761 --> 00:17:48,303 From the angle of the bullet Through the brain, 519 00:17:48,677 --> 00:17:49,635 I'd say the shooter 520 00:17:50,219 --> 00:17:51,011 Had to be almost level with the Car. 521 00:17:51,386 --> 00:17:52,595 Level with the car? 522 00:17:53,219 --> 00:17:53,761 That'd put him level with street Traffic. 523 00:17:53,761 --> 00:17:54,428 That'd put him level with street Traffic. 524 00:17:55,094 --> 00:17:55,844 Well, maybe he was on the Opposite sidewalk. 525 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:58,844 Well, none of the witnesses Heard a shot. 526 00:17:59,344 --> 00:17:59,762 Nobody saw anybody with anything 527 00:17:59,762 --> 00:18:00,762 Nobody saw anybody with anything 528 00:18:01,511 --> 00:18:02,969 That might even remotely Resemble a weapon. 529 00:18:03,595 --> 00:18:04,762 Sounds like the mysterious third Gunman 530 00:18:05,344 --> 00:18:05,762 On the grassy knoll over in Dallas. 531 00:18:05,762 --> 00:18:06,553 On the grassy knoll over in Dallas. 532 00:18:07,261 --> 00:18:09,095 Yeah, well, at least they had Some of it on film. 533 00:18:09,678 --> 00:18:11,095 Hey, chick, what about the Distance? 534 00:18:11,386 --> 00:18:11,762 Hard to tell. 535 00:18:11,762 --> 00:18:12,845 Hard to tell. 536 00:18:13,678 --> 00:18:15,553 Hey, maybe this is related to Some of those abortion doctors 537 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:17,179 - who got shot in the states. - Yeah, could be. 538 00:18:17,636 --> 00:18:17,762 We're looking into that one. 539 00:18:17,762 --> 00:18:18,887 We're looking into that one. 540 00:18:19,636 --> 00:18:21,095 Geez, he really plowed into the Car in front of him 541 00:18:21,512 --> 00:18:22,678 Pretty hard, didn't he? 542 00:18:23,262 --> 00:18:23,762 How fast do you think he was Going? 543 00:18:23,762 --> 00:18:23,803 How fast do you think he was Going? 544 00:18:24,179 --> 00:18:25,762 45, 50 miles an hour. 545 00:18:26,429 --> 00:18:27,512 Whatever the hell that is in Kilometres. 546 00:18:28,095 --> 00:18:29,471 He was going over the speed Limit. 547 00:18:30,179 --> 00:18:30,928 But he could have pressed down On the accelerator 548 00:18:31,262 --> 00:18:32,554 After he got shot. 549 00:18:33,262 --> 00:18:33,970 The guy ahead of him was stopped For the light. 550 00:18:34,179 --> 00:18:35,179 Yeah. 551 00:18:35,846 --> 00:18:37,053 You know, with him being in a Moving vehicle, 552 00:18:37,637 --> 00:18:38,679 It's going to be really hard to Tell 553 00:18:39,179 --> 00:18:39,763 Where the hell the shooter was 554 00:18:40,387 --> 00:18:41,763 - on the block, isn't it? - Right. 555 00:18:41,763 --> 00:18:42,679 - on the block, isn't it? - Right. 556 00:18:47,554 --> 00:18:47,763 What's this bruise here on your Shoulder? 557 00:18:47,763 --> 00:18:49,138 What's this bruise here on your Shoulder? 558 00:18:49,429 --> 00:18:50,596 I got that 559 00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:53,054 From hauling fertilizer for my Wife's garden. 560 00:18:53,888 --> 00:18:55,888 What about this cut, here, on Your hand. How'd you get that? 561 00:18:56,721 --> 00:18:57,763 I got that on the truck. I was Out there working on my truck. 562 00:18:58,263 --> 00:18:59,763 You saw me, right? 563 00:19:00,763 --> 00:19:02,764 I don't have to show you my Cuts. I just want to get this Cleared up. 564 00:19:03,846 --> 00:19:05,764 - how about this cut on your Forearm here? - I don't remember That one. 565 00:19:05,764 --> 00:19:06,680 - how about this cut on your Forearm here? - I don't remember That one. 566 00:19:07,597 --> 00:19:09,138 - you don't remember when you Get a cut? - no, I don't. Do You? 567 00:19:09,847 --> 00:19:11,764 I'm scared of getting that Flesh-eating disease. 568 00:19:11,764 --> 00:19:12,014 I'm scared of getting that Flesh-eating disease. 569 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,263 Those your wife's suitcases in The bedroom? 570 00:19:14,972 --> 00:19:17,055 Yep, and why she didn't take One, I don't know. 571 00:19:17,889 --> 00:19:19,055 Looks to me like she didn't take Any of her clothes with her. 572 00:19:19,472 --> 00:19:20,638 Well, she took the car. 573 00:19:20,972 --> 00:19:22,764 I see a dog dish. 574 00:19:23,306 --> 00:19:23,764 She also take the dog? 575 00:19:23,764 --> 00:19:25,014 She also take the dog? 576 00:19:25,513 --> 00:19:27,055 The dog ran away that night too. 577 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,222 You can't keep anybody at home, Can you? 578 00:19:29,722 --> 00:19:29,764 Kosmo: what's that on the wall? 579 00:19:29,764 --> 00:19:31,598 Kosmo: what's that on the wall? 580 00:19:31,889 --> 00:19:32,930 I don't know. 581 00:19:33,347 --> 00:19:35,764 That looks like blood. 582 00:19:35,764 --> 00:19:35,889 That looks like blood. 583 00:19:36,222 --> 00:19:37,765 Is that blood? 584 00:19:38,181 --> 00:19:40,806 Okay, come on. 585 00:19:41,473 --> 00:19:41,765 You and me are going to go in The bathroom 586 00:19:41,765 --> 00:19:42,806 You and me are going to go in The bathroom 587 00:19:43,431 --> 00:19:44,222 So I can check you with your Pants off. 588 00:19:46,431 --> 00:19:47,765 Come on. 589 00:19:47,765 --> 00:19:48,264 Come on. 590 00:19:55,848 --> 00:19:56,931 What happened? 591 00:19:57,473 --> 00:19:58,765 One of your volunteers found Him? 592 00:19:59,598 --> 00:19:59,765 Yeah. One of the guys from the Mill came down 593 00:19:59,765 --> 00:20:00,556 Yeah. One of the guys from the Mill came down 594 00:20:01,056 --> 00:20:02,598 And he was searching the boom. 595 00:20:03,390 --> 00:20:04,765 He spotted what looked like Something underneath the logs 596 00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:05,765 And managed to get a pike pole Onto it. 597 00:20:05,765 --> 00:20:06,265 And managed to get a pike pole Onto it. 598 00:20:06,723 --> 00:20:07,765 He was trapped underneath? 599 00:20:08,348 --> 00:20:09,766 We're going to send the divers Out 600 00:20:10,098 --> 00:20:11,599 To free him up. 601 00:20:12,223 --> 00:20:15,223 It's not too far from where he Went in. 602 00:20:15,807 --> 00:20:16,974 He could have been trapped under There 603 00:20:17,348 --> 00:20:17,766 For quite a while. 604 00:20:17,766 --> 00:20:18,599 For quite a while. 605 00:20:19,223 --> 00:20:20,140 He could have tried to grab hold Of a log. 606 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:21,640 It could have rolled on him. 607 00:20:22,223 --> 00:20:23,390 That'd be pretty tough, wouldn't It? 608 00:20:23,974 --> 00:20:25,557 It's all slick on the underneath Side. 609 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:27,557 All the bark coming off and Everything like that. 610 00:20:27,766 --> 00:20:29,766 Yeah. 611 00:20:29,766 --> 00:20:29,849 Yeah. 612 00:20:30,183 --> 00:20:31,932 You all right? 613 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:33,974 Yeah. I just hate to think he Was still alive 614 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,766 While we were down here Searching for him. 615 00:20:35,766 --> 00:20:35,891 While we were down here Searching for him. 616 00:20:36,475 --> 00:20:38,641 We don't know that's what Happened. 617 00:20:39,349 --> 00:20:41,224 You know, we looked all up and Down this stretch. 618 00:20:41,807 --> 00:20:44,641 You did everything you could do, Okay? 619 00:20:44,849 --> 00:20:46,767 Yeah. 620 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:47,767 - the divers are going to go cut Him free. - okay. 621 00:20:47,767 --> 00:20:49,057 - the divers are going to go cut Him free. - okay. 622 00:20:49,391 --> 00:20:52,183 Let go of that. 623 00:20:52,850 --> 00:20:53,767 We're going to take him down to The morgue, 624 00:20:53,767 --> 00:20:54,183 We're going to take him down to The morgue, 625 00:20:54,683 --> 00:20:55,767 And we'll get the whole story, 626 00:20:56,433 --> 00:20:57,142 And I'll keep you informed, Okay? 627 00:20:57,391 --> 00:20:58,391 Thanks. 628 00:20:58,892 --> 00:20:59,767 Don't beat yourself up on this. 629 00:20:59,767 --> 00:21:00,767 Don't beat yourself up on this. 630 00:21:01,142 --> 00:21:02,142 I'm serious. 631 00:21:02,516 --> 00:21:03,725 Listen to me, okay? 632 00:21:04,267 --> 00:21:05,767 You can't do it. You can't do It. 633 00:21:05,767 --> 00:21:06,933 You can't do it. You can't do It. 634 00:21:34,143 --> 00:21:35,768 I'm looking at the body of a Young male 635 00:21:35,768 --> 00:21:36,559 I'm looking at the body of a Young male 636 00:21:37,226 --> 00:21:39,768 Identified by relatives as Alexander woods, 637 00:21:40,226 --> 00:21:41,768 Age five years, caucasian. 638 00:21:41,768 --> 00:21:42,976 Age five years, caucasian. 639 00:21:43,642 --> 00:21:46,059 There are dozens of skin Abrasions and bruises 640 00:21:46,435 --> 00:21:47,768 Immediately visible, 641 00:21:48,226 --> 00:21:49,643 Some appearing to be caused 642 00:21:50,268 --> 00:21:51,852 By incidental contact with Foreign matter, 643 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:53,769 Some by repeated abrasion. 644 00:21:53,769 --> 00:21:54,769 Some by repeated abrasion. 645 00:21:55,643 --> 00:21:58,769 These artifacts are present on The head, the neck, 646 00:21:59,393 --> 00:21:59,769 The upper and lower torso, front And back, 647 00:21:59,769 --> 00:22:03,769 The upper and lower torso, front And back, 648 00:22:04,227 --> 00:22:05,602 The arms, front and back. 649 00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:08,019 Da vinci: okay, we're just Speculating here, okay? 650 00:22:08,643 --> 00:22:10,769 We accept the initial coroner's Report 651 00:22:11,352 --> 00:22:11,769 On the first child's death. 652 00:22:11,769 --> 00:22:12,478 On the first child's death. 653 00:22:13,060 --> 00:22:14,769 We accept his ruling of Accidental. 654 00:22:15,102 --> 00:22:16,769 Who did the autopsy? 655 00:22:17,561 --> 00:22:17,769 Just one of the pathologists From the interior. 656 00:22:17,769 --> 00:22:18,769 Just one of the pathologists From the interior. 657 00:22:19,227 --> 00:22:20,144 He's a good man there. 658 00:22:20,769 --> 00:22:22,019 We've never had any problem There before. 659 00:22:22,728 --> 00:22:23,770 And what were the circumstances In that instance? 660 00:22:24,394 --> 00:22:25,935 The mother's out with the child, Hiking, 661 00:22:26,644 --> 00:22:28,686 The child disappeared around a Turn out of view, 662 00:22:29,352 --> 00:22:29,770 And then he fell to his death Down the cliff. 663 00:22:29,770 --> 00:22:31,644 And then he fell to his death Down the cliff. 664 00:22:31,853 --> 00:22:32,770 Okay. 665 00:22:33,478 --> 00:22:34,770 Now, the mother, all of a Sudden, 666 00:22:35,436 --> 00:22:35,770 She is being extended all kinds Of sympathy, 667 00:22:35,770 --> 00:22:37,394 She is being extended all kinds Of sympathy, 668 00:22:38,187 --> 00:22:39,770 She's the centre of attention, She's in the newspaper-- 669 00:22:40,270 --> 00:22:41,436 She's the focus of a tragedy. 670 00:22:42,020 --> 00:22:43,353 Did she ever receive any Counseling? 671 00:22:43,728 --> 00:22:45,770 I don't believe so. 672 00:22:46,353 --> 00:22:47,770 Okay, so now, some time's passed By 673 00:22:48,562 --> 00:22:50,770 And now, suddenly, not so much Attention, right? 674 00:22:51,645 --> 00:22:52,978 There's no cards, letters, Newspapers, none of that. 675 00:22:53,395 --> 00:22:53,770 She wakes up one morning 676 00:22:53,770 --> 00:22:54,645 She wakes up one morning 677 00:22:55,312 --> 00:22:56,103 And she misses being the centre Of attention. 678 00:22:56,687 --> 00:22:58,562 So you're talking about a Variation 679 00:22:59,145 --> 00:22:59,771 On the munchausen-by-proxy Syndrome? 680 00:22:59,771 --> 00:23:00,729 On the munchausen-by-proxy Syndrome? 681 00:23:00,937 --> 00:23:01,771 Yeah. 682 00:23:02,270 --> 00:23:03,562 Well, as far as I understand it, 683 00:23:04,312 --> 00:23:05,771 That syndrome applies to people Who gain attention 684 00:23:05,771 --> 00:23:06,187 That syndrome applies to people Who gain attention 685 00:23:06,729 --> 00:23:08,395 By first making their child Sick, 686 00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:10,979 And then extending that Attention, not by killing the Child. 687 00:23:11,771 --> 00:23:13,479 - oh, no, sometimes they kill Them. - a small percentage. 688 00:23:14,271 --> 00:23:15,729 This may fall into that Category, the small percentage. 689 00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:17,520 So what you're really asking me 690 00:23:18,229 --> 00:23:19,771 Is to approve the exhumation of The first child? 691 00:23:20,604 --> 00:23:22,771 - yeah. - well, why don't we Just wait and see 692 00:23:23,396 --> 00:23:23,771 What the pathologist comes up With? 693 00:23:23,771 --> 00:23:24,396 What the pathologist comes up With? 694 00:23:24,854 --> 00:23:26,438 It may not even be necessary. 695 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:28,772 So that's how it's going to be Around here now, is it? 696 00:23:29,521 --> 00:23:29,772 It's going to be on a Case-by-case scenario here? 697 00:23:30,354 --> 00:23:31,772 Is that what you want to do? 698 00:23:32,605 --> 00:23:34,688 Dominic, I am not questioning Your judgment here. 699 00:23:34,938 --> 00:23:35,772 Really? 700 00:23:36,396 --> 00:23:37,855 Okay, but until I can defend our Budget, 701 00:23:38,605 --> 00:23:39,646 Before the attorney general line Item by line item, 702 00:23:40,396 --> 00:23:41,605 Then, yes, I'm afraid it'll have To be case by case. 703 00:23:41,938 --> 00:23:43,313 Okay. All right. 704 00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:45,772 Okay, so we're on a case-by-case Thing then. 705 00:23:46,063 --> 00:23:47,438 In this case, 706 00:23:47,980 --> 00:23:49,314 I'm asking you for an Exhumation. 707 00:23:49,938 --> 00:23:51,646 How long has the body been in The ground? 708 00:23:52,355 --> 00:23:53,397 How long has the body been in The ground? Five years. 709 00:23:54,022 --> 00:23:55,772 Well, then I'm going to have to Say no. 710 00:23:56,481 --> 00:23:57,688 Look, if they couldn't prove Anything 711 00:23:58,272 --> 00:23:59,522 Other than accidental five years Ago, 712 00:23:59,938 --> 00:24:00,980 Then we don't have much 713 00:24:01,355 --> 00:24:04,063 To go on now, do we? 714 00:24:17,439 --> 00:24:17,773 We've got blood on the wall here In a downward direction. 715 00:24:17,773 --> 00:24:20,773 We've got blood on the wall here In a downward direction. 716 00:24:21,397 --> 00:24:23,023 Several smears on the cupboard Over here 717 00:24:23,481 --> 00:24:23,773 And all around the dog dish. 718 00:24:23,773 --> 00:24:24,898 And all around the dog dish. 719 00:24:25,606 --> 00:24:26,689 Do you think the blows happened Low to the floor? 720 00:24:26,898 --> 00:24:28,023 Yeah. 721 00:24:28,773 --> 00:24:29,773 Probably delivered to somebody Already on their knees. 722 00:24:29,773 --> 00:24:30,440 Probably delivered to somebody Already on their knees. 723 00:24:30,731 --> 00:24:31,773 Detective, 724 00:24:32,315 --> 00:24:33,773 You might want to take a look 725 00:24:34,356 --> 00:24:35,774 Out here in the backyard. 726 00:24:35,774 --> 00:24:36,815 Out here in the backyard. 727 00:24:37,356 --> 00:24:38,857 I found the shovel in the Garage. 728 00:24:39,523 --> 00:24:40,774 It looked like it had some fresh Dirt on it, 729 00:24:41,273 --> 00:24:41,774 So I look around, 730 00:24:41,774 --> 00:24:42,607 So I look around, 731 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:44,774 And you can see right over There, 732 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,774 Looks like somebody was doing Some digging. 733 00:24:47,231 --> 00:24:47,774 My wife's a gardener. 734 00:24:48,191 --> 00:24:49,315 I told you that. 735 00:24:50,024 --> 00:24:51,356 Yeah. We're going to take a Look at this anyway, 736 00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:52,565 And you'll put your hands behind Your back. 737 00:24:53,024 --> 00:24:53,774 Because my wife's on vacation 738 00:24:54,274 --> 00:24:55,399 And I got some gardening going? 739 00:24:56,107 --> 00:24:58,483 Everything turns out all right, We'll apologize. 740 00:24:59,149 --> 00:24:59,774 You're not going to find my wife Down there. 741 00:24:59,774 --> 00:25:01,107 You're not going to find my wife Down there. 742 00:25:01,815 --> 00:25:04,191 You want to get started here, Chick, tape it off? 743 00:25:04,690 --> 00:25:05,774 We'll take a look-see back here. 744 00:25:05,774 --> 00:25:06,316 We'll take a look-see back here. 745 00:25:06,815 --> 00:25:08,232 Tape off the entire yard here, 746 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:11,316 And we'll start here where the Soil's been turned. 747 00:25:13,649 --> 00:25:14,524 So what are we looking at? 748 00:25:14,816 --> 00:25:15,858 It's a dog. 749 00:25:16,316 --> 00:25:17,566 - a dog? - yeah, take a look. 750 00:25:18,107 --> 00:25:18,941 I'll pull this back here for You. 751 00:25:19,399 --> 00:25:20,775 No, I don't want to see that. 752 00:25:21,608 --> 00:25:23,150 You look at dead folks for a Living. This bothers you? 753 00:25:23,608 --> 00:25:23,775 Will you just have a look? 754 00:25:23,775 --> 00:25:24,983 Will you just have a look? 755 00:25:25,775 --> 00:25:29,150 There's a couple of nasty blows To the head there, eh? 756 00:25:29,733 --> 00:25:29,775 What kind of dog did fred say he Had? 757 00:25:29,775 --> 00:25:31,484 What kind of dog did fred say he Had? 758 00:25:32,066 --> 00:25:34,233 It was a lab cross. Ginger's her Name. 759 00:25:34,649 --> 00:25:35,775 Okay, so this is ginger. 760 00:25:35,775 --> 00:25:37,192 Okay, so this is ginger. 761 00:25:38,066 --> 00:25:39,692 So what do you think the chances Of the wife being out here are? 762 00:25:40,066 --> 00:25:41,317 Oh, I don't think so. 763 00:25:42,025 --> 00:25:43,567 This is the only piece of ground That's disturbed. 764 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:46,650 Thanks. Let's go. 765 00:25:58,525 --> 00:25:59,734 It's mostly letters. 766 00:26:00,193 --> 00:26:01,484 There's some e-mail on disc, 767 00:26:02,026 --> 00:26:02,859 And a few tapes of the phone Calls 768 00:26:03,318 --> 00:26:05,359 From the answering machine. 769 00:26:06,026 --> 00:26:08,109 I've also listed some of the Pro-life websites 770 00:26:08,692 --> 00:26:09,859 Where our names appear as Targets. 771 00:26:10,151 --> 00:26:11,610 There you go. 772 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,276 Anybody stand out there we Should be taking a look at? 773 00:26:15,651 --> 00:26:16,942 It could be anybody, 774 00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:17,777 I-- I don't know. 775 00:26:17,777 --> 00:26:20,109 I-- I don't know. 776 00:26:20,568 --> 00:26:22,401 I mean, we take precautions. 777 00:26:23,027 --> 00:26:23,777 We have security, private guard, Cameras. 778 00:26:23,777 --> 00:26:25,068 We have security, private guard, Cameras. 779 00:26:25,443 --> 00:26:26,777 They still find us. 780 00:26:27,443 --> 00:26:28,610 You and dr. Stroud shared the Partnership, 781 00:26:29,194 --> 00:26:29,777 Just the two of you, is that Right? 782 00:26:29,777 --> 00:26:30,152 Just the two of you, is that Right? 783 00:26:30,651 --> 00:26:31,860 Yes. We opened it 10 years ago. 784 00:26:32,443 --> 00:26:33,610 10 years, that's a long Partnership. 785 00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:34,860 How did you get along? 786 00:26:35,235 --> 00:26:35,777 Professionally, good. 787 00:26:35,777 --> 00:26:36,777 Professionally, good. 788 00:26:37,486 --> 00:26:38,777 So you'd say he was a good Doctor? 789 00:26:39,693 --> 00:26:40,777 - his patients thought so. - how About off the job? 790 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:41,777 How'd you get along there? 791 00:26:41,777 --> 00:26:42,985 How'd you get along there? 792 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:44,652 We had our problems. 793 00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:45,902 What kind of problems? 794 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:47,778 He owed the practice money. 795 00:26:48,444 --> 00:26:51,068 Were you a little bit worried About that? 796 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:53,652 Well, it caused some friction, 797 00:26:54,402 --> 00:26:56,360 But it didn't threaten us from Staying in business. 798 00:26:57,194 --> 00:26:58,819 And what was the nature of his Debts? How did he incur those? 799 00:26:59,152 --> 00:26:59,778 He was a gambler. 800 00:26:59,778 --> 00:27:02,319 He was a gambler. 801 00:27:02,903 --> 00:27:04,569 It was petty, really, but it Adds up. 802 00:27:05,195 --> 00:27:05,778 He said it was to deal with the Stress. 803 00:27:05,778 --> 00:27:06,736 He said it was to deal with the Stress. 804 00:27:06,944 --> 00:27:07,944 Okay. 805 00:27:08,611 --> 00:27:09,778 Any other problems that we Should know about? 806 00:27:10,153 --> 00:27:11,361 No. 807 00:27:12,028 --> 00:27:13,903 I'd think about shutting down The office-- 808 00:27:14,361 --> 00:27:15,361 I can't do that. I'm sorry. 809 00:27:15,778 --> 00:27:17,111 You should think about 810 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:17,778 Hiring some extra security. 811 00:27:17,778 --> 00:27:18,695 Hiring some extra security. 812 00:27:19,195 --> 00:27:20,487 We have extra security already. 813 00:27:21,153 --> 00:27:23,403 Detective, there's someone here To see you. 814 00:27:28,069 --> 00:27:29,195 We're going to go through these Things here, 815 00:27:29,779 --> 00:27:31,278 And if we have any more Questions, 816 00:27:31,695 --> 00:27:32,779 We'll give you a call. 817 00:27:33,487 --> 00:27:35,779 Thanks for coming in. I'm sorry For your loss. 818 00:27:36,029 --> 00:27:36,779 Okay. 819 00:27:37,237 --> 00:27:39,321 So what brings you here? 820 00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:41,779 I was in the neighbourhood, and I thought you might need your Wallet. 821 00:27:42,404 --> 00:27:44,779 Oh, oh, that's where it went. Thanks. 822 00:27:45,404 --> 00:27:46,529 You left it behind the counter. 823 00:27:47,154 --> 00:27:47,779 Yeah, it was-- it was rubbing on My hip. 824 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:49,654 Well, take it easy. 825 00:27:50,321 --> 00:27:51,779 While you're here, can I take You to lunch? 826 00:27:52,696 --> 00:27:53,780 I just had a little something. Another time, maybe. 827 00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:53,945 I just had a little something. Another time, maybe. 828 00:27:54,154 --> 00:27:55,613 Okay. 829 00:27:56,112 --> 00:27:56,863 Thanks for taking the trouble. 830 00:27:57,237 --> 00:27:58,905 It was no trouble. 831 00:27:59,196 --> 00:27:59,780 Take care. 832 00:27:59,780 --> 00:28:00,446 Take care. 833 00:28:00,988 --> 00:28:02,780 I'll see you next wednesday, Okay? 834 00:28:11,238 --> 00:28:11,780 Is that that woman from the Dance studio? 835 00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:12,446 Is that that woman from the Dance studio? 836 00:28:12,696 --> 00:28:13,488 Yeah. Uh-huh. 837 00:28:13,821 --> 00:28:14,863 What'd she want? 838 00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:16,780 Nothing. She just dropped by to Say hello. 839 00:28:17,363 --> 00:28:17,780 Been back to the dance studio Lately? 840 00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:18,363 Been back to the dance studio Lately? 841 00:28:19,155 --> 00:28:21,030 I said, have you been back to The dance studio lately? 842 00:28:21,238 --> 00:28:22,780 Yeah. 843 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,780 Dance lessons? 844 00:28:24,322 --> 00:28:25,614 It's a dance studio. 845 00:28:25,821 --> 00:28:27,572 Okay. 846 00:28:27,988 --> 00:28:29,572 What have we got here? 847 00:28:30,238 --> 00:28:31,363 I'm going to check out a couple Of websites 848 00:28:31,946 --> 00:28:32,655 That have the doctor's name Posted. 849 00:28:33,322 --> 00:28:34,030 You want to wade through some of This stuff? 850 00:28:41,947 --> 00:28:43,489 I know 851 00:28:44,198 --> 00:28:45,363 This is a very difficult thing To ask you to do, 852 00:28:45,906 --> 00:28:47,781 But I wondered if you can Explain 853 00:28:47,781 --> 00:28:48,031 But I wondered if you can Explain 854 00:28:48,364 --> 00:28:50,781 Or recall for us 855 00:28:51,406 --> 00:28:53,281 How your wife, sara, described The events 856 00:28:54,031 --> 00:28:56,697 That surrounded the death of Your first child, max. 857 00:28:59,656 --> 00:28:59,782 Well, she really didn't describe It to my satisfaction, 858 00:28:59,782 --> 00:29:03,782 Well, she really didn't describe It to my satisfaction, 859 00:29:04,406 --> 00:29:05,782 And I don't mean that in the Sense 860 00:29:05,782 --> 00:29:06,782 And I don't mean that in the Sense 861 00:29:07,448 --> 00:29:08,490 That I never would have accepted It, 862 00:29:09,114 --> 00:29:11,782 It's just that I was never Completely-- 863 00:29:11,782 --> 00:29:13,698 It's just that I was never Completely-- 864 00:29:14,323 --> 00:29:15,656 I'm still not completely certain That... 865 00:29:15,865 --> 00:29:17,656 What? 866 00:29:17,948 --> 00:29:18,782 I never got 867 00:29:19,490 --> 00:29:20,199 Much of a description of the Accident. 868 00:29:20,615 --> 00:29:23,073 All I got was an apology. 869 00:29:23,782 --> 00:29:26,449 Were you getting along okay Before the accident? 870 00:29:26,782 --> 00:29:28,073 No, not really. 871 00:29:28,616 --> 00:29:29,782 We were talking about Separating. 872 00:29:29,782 --> 00:29:30,157 We were talking about Separating. 873 00:29:30,449 --> 00:29:31,782 And after? 874 00:29:32,365 --> 00:29:33,783 Well, she was completely Devastated. 875 00:29:34,616 --> 00:29:35,783 I mean, I was-- we both were. It Was a mess. 876 00:29:35,783 --> 00:29:38,616 I mean, I was-- we both were. It Was a mess. 877 00:29:39,073 --> 00:29:40,616 We were depressed for months. 878 00:29:41,407 --> 00:29:41,783 So you stayed together, and you Had alexander, I guess. 879 00:29:41,783 --> 00:29:44,741 So you stayed together, and you Had alexander, I guess. 880 00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:47,783 Yeah. 881 00:29:47,783 --> 00:29:48,783 Yeah. 882 00:29:49,574 --> 00:29:51,783 That was a mistake. No, I loved Alexander. 883 00:29:52,532 --> 00:29:53,783 No, I don't mean he was a Mistake, no. 884 00:29:53,783 --> 00:29:55,366 No, I don't mean he was a Mistake, no. 885 00:29:56,116 --> 00:29:57,241 I know exactly what you mean. Don't worry about it. 886 00:29:57,741 --> 00:29:59,783 It's just that in retrospect... 887 00:29:59,783 --> 00:30:02,325 It's just that in retrospect... 888 00:30:08,366 --> 00:30:09,742 Do you think it's possible 889 00:30:10,408 --> 00:30:11,784 You could gain custody of your-- Of your baby? 890 00:30:11,784 --> 00:30:12,283 You could gain custody of your-- Of your baby? 891 00:30:12,658 --> 00:30:14,742 That's not my child. 892 00:30:15,158 --> 00:30:16,325 That's not your child? 893 00:30:16,992 --> 00:30:17,784 No, she got pregnant by another Man after me, 894 00:30:17,784 --> 00:30:19,700 No, she got pregnant by another Man after me, 895 00:30:20,408 --> 00:30:21,784 And I don't even know if they're Still together. 896 00:30:22,366 --> 00:30:23,658 From what I understand, 897 00:30:24,075 --> 00:30:26,117 He didn't even want kids. 898 00:30:31,534 --> 00:30:34,326 Yeah, I put ginger out of her Misery. 899 00:30:34,784 --> 00:30:35,784 By bashing her in the head. 900 00:30:35,784 --> 00:30:36,784 By bashing her in the head. 901 00:30:37,409 --> 00:30:39,201 She could hardly walk. She had Arthritis. 902 00:30:40,075 --> 00:30:41,785 - you know, she was in constant Pain. - what'd you hit her with? 903 00:30:41,785 --> 00:30:42,743 - you know, she was in constant Pain. - what'd you hit her with? 904 00:30:42,992 --> 00:30:44,242 Hammer. 905 00:30:45,075 --> 00:30:46,785 Ever hear of taking a sick dog And having it put it to sleep? 906 00:30:47,451 --> 00:30:47,785 It costs money, which I don't Have, 907 00:30:47,785 --> 00:30:49,618 It costs money, which I don't Have, 908 00:30:50,326 --> 00:30:51,534 And who's to say it's less Painful for the dog? 909 00:30:52,118 --> 00:30:53,576 Okay, so the night your wife Took off, 910 00:30:54,493 --> 00:30:56,035 You just decided out of the Blue, "It's time for ginger to Go." 911 00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:58,993 Yeah, that's what we were Fighting about. The dog was in Pain. 912 00:30:59,743 --> 00:30:59,785 - she didn't want to face that. - where was the dog 913 00:30:59,785 --> 00:31:01,785 - she didn't want to face that. - where was the dog 914 00:31:02,410 --> 00:31:03,368 When you decided to play Executioner? 915 00:31:03,910 --> 00:31:05,243 Eating hamburger out of her Dish. 916 00:31:05,826 --> 00:31:06,910 So you killed the dog in the Kitchen? 917 00:31:07,452 --> 00:31:08,910 I laid the plastic bag she was In 918 00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:11,076 Down on the floor under her. 919 00:31:11,993 --> 00:31:13,744 Oh, because you didn't want to Get any blood on the kitchen Floor? 920 00:31:14,494 --> 00:31:17,202 Yeah, but I guess some of it Must've got there anyway. 921 00:31:17,993 --> 00:31:19,285 All right, so you're saying that The blood on the floor 922 00:31:19,869 --> 00:31:20,786 Is your dog's blood, not your Wife's. 923 00:31:21,202 --> 00:31:23,786 Where's your wife? 924 00:31:23,786 --> 00:31:23,911 Where's your wife? 925 00:31:24,494 --> 00:31:25,660 - I don't know. - did you kill Her? 926 00:31:25,869 --> 00:31:27,077 No. 927 00:31:27,535 --> 00:31:28,702 No, I did not kill my wife. 928 00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:29,786 Look, can I go home now? 929 00:31:29,786 --> 00:31:30,952 Look, can I go home now? 930 00:31:31,328 --> 00:31:33,577 Mr. Turner, stand up. 931 00:31:33,827 --> 00:31:35,786 What for? 932 00:31:35,786 --> 00:31:36,702 What for? 933 00:31:37,203 --> 00:31:38,744 - I'm arresting you. - what for? 934 00:31:39,244 --> 00:31:41,620 Section 446, cruelty to animals. 935 00:31:41,994 --> 00:31:43,203 You killed your dog. 936 00:31:43,952 --> 00:31:45,661 Oh, so it's all right for the Pound to put them down, 937 00:31:46,495 --> 00:31:46,827 But I'm not allowed to handle my Own affairs? She was my dog. 938 00:31:47,369 --> 00:31:47,787 I took care of her. I raised Her. 939 00:31:47,787 --> 00:31:48,787 I took care of her. I raised Her. 940 00:31:49,328 --> 00:31:51,036 I put her out of her pain. 941 00:31:53,411 --> 00:31:53,787 The fbi gave us a couple of Profiles. 942 00:31:53,787 --> 00:31:56,161 The fbi gave us a couple of Profiles. 943 00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:59,203 The first one there is a Reverend leroy pearson, 944 00:31:59,620 --> 00:31:59,787 A self-styled evangelist, 945 00:31:59,787 --> 00:32:02,037 A self-styled evangelist, 946 00:32:02,578 --> 00:32:03,870 Used to have some radio talk Show. 947 00:32:04,536 --> 00:32:05,495 The reverend is suspected of Shooting a doctor 948 00:32:06,078 --> 00:32:06,453 As he was driving his vehicle to Work. 949 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:07,703 The doctor was wounded. 950 00:32:08,454 --> 00:32:09,745 Yeah, the second one there, That's sylvia lancaster. 951 00:32:10,412 --> 00:32:11,787 The fbi says they don't know Much about her 952 00:32:11,787 --> 00:32:11,870 The fbi says they don't know Much about her 953 00:32:12,245 --> 00:32:13,703 Other than the fact 954 00:32:14,454 --> 00:32:15,787 That she's a regular face at Abortion clinic protests. 955 00:32:16,287 --> 00:32:17,746 She's also suspected 956 00:32:18,329 --> 00:32:19,037 In shooting a doctor driving his Car. 957 00:32:19,454 --> 00:32:20,412 The doctor was killed. 958 00:32:20,829 --> 00:32:21,788 What about the weapons 959 00:32:22,496 --> 00:32:23,037 That were used in these Shootings? 960 00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:23,788 They're similar. 961 00:32:23,788 --> 00:32:24,245 They're similar. 962 00:32:24,662 --> 00:32:25,788 Both were hunting rifles. 963 00:32:26,537 --> 00:32:29,162 The first one was a winchester Model 1894, 964 00:32:29,913 --> 00:32:31,496 And that was recovered from the Woman's motel room. 965 00:32:32,204 --> 00:32:33,496 Now, the second rifle, it was Never recovered, 966 00:32:34,121 --> 00:32:34,871 But it was believed to be a 30-aught-six 967 00:32:35,246 --> 00:32:35,788 It's the 30-aught-six 968 00:32:35,788 --> 00:32:36,412 It's the 30-aught-six 969 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:38,121 That we think is the same kind Of rifle 970 00:32:38,704 --> 00:32:39,788 That was used to kill our doctor Here. 971 00:32:40,537 --> 00:32:41,288 We're going to compare the u.S. Shooting's bullet 972 00:32:41,829 --> 00:32:42,455 With the bullet from our Shooting, 973 00:32:42,913 --> 00:32:44,205 Try and find a weapons match. 974 00:32:44,954 --> 00:32:45,788 Have you got any info on where These two suspects are? 975 00:32:46,246 --> 00:32:47,788 Yeah, they're both fugitives. 976 00:32:47,788 --> 00:32:47,996 Yeah, they're both fugitives. 977 00:32:48,622 --> 00:32:49,788 Okay, let's get their photos out There, 978 00:32:50,246 --> 00:32:51,829 See if anybody's seen them. 979 00:32:52,663 --> 00:32:53,789 Also, what about the threats Made to the doctor's practice-- 980 00:32:54,497 --> 00:32:55,872 - any info there? - nothing so Far. 981 00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:57,747 All the letters were anonymous. 982 00:32:58,413 --> 00:32:59,747 Same thing with the email and The voice mail. 983 00:33:00,497 --> 00:33:02,830 Two of the websites run by Anti-abortion advocates, 984 00:33:03,789 --> 00:33:05,789 They've got the doctor's name on There, his address, his phone Number, 985 00:33:05,789 --> 00:33:06,789 They've got the doctor's name on There, his address, his phone Number, 986 00:33:07,413 --> 00:33:08,747 License plate number, all that. 987 00:33:09,413 --> 00:33:10,164 Both sites are offering a reward Of two grand 988 00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:11,789 For information on any of these Doctors. 989 00:33:11,789 --> 00:33:12,622 For information on any of these Doctors. 990 00:33:13,455 --> 00:33:15,414 One of the websites already has His name crossed off in red. 991 00:33:28,331 --> 00:33:29,790 The cause of death is drowning, 992 00:33:29,790 --> 00:33:30,080 The cause of death is drowning, 993 00:33:30,915 --> 00:33:32,206 But I did find that alexander Suffered a blunt trauma wound 994 00:33:32,915 --> 00:33:34,122 To his forehead at some time Prior to his death. 995 00:33:34,748 --> 00:33:35,790 That appears to have fractured His skull. 996 00:33:35,790 --> 00:33:36,247 That appears to have fractured His skull. 997 00:33:36,998 --> 00:33:38,498 Whether that would have rendered Him unconscious... 998 00:33:39,081 --> 00:33:41,414 - impossible to tell. - they Found him 999 00:33:42,123 --> 00:33:43,748 - underneath a log boom, right. - right, right. 1000 00:33:44,165 --> 00:33:44,831 Well, that's possible, 1001 00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:46,290 If you mean 1002 00:33:46,873 --> 00:33:47,790 Did he strike his head against a Log. 1003 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:48,332 Did he strike his head against a Log. 1004 00:33:48,748 --> 00:33:49,790 But it's also possible 1005 00:33:50,457 --> 00:33:51,332 It could have come from another Object, 1006 00:33:51,915 --> 00:33:52,831 Say, as in a person giving him a Blow. 1007 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:53,790 I can't determine whether it was Or not. Sorry. 1008 00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:54,998 I can't determine whether it was Or not. Sorry. 1009 00:33:55,624 --> 00:33:56,998 How long did it happen before he Drowned? 1010 00:33:57,707 --> 00:33:59,791 Well, long enough to have formed Some bruising, 1011 00:33:59,791 --> 00:34:00,373 Well, long enough to have formed Some bruising, 1012 00:34:00,873 --> 00:34:02,332 But how long, I've got no idea. 1013 00:34:02,749 --> 00:34:03,874 I did find some splinters 1014 00:34:04,457 --> 00:34:05,791 Underneath his fingernails from Wood, 1015 00:34:05,791 --> 00:34:06,499 Underneath his fingernails from Wood, 1016 00:34:07,081 --> 00:34:10,540 And that would indicate a Scrabbling, 1017 00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:11,791 A grabbing at either the pier or A log, 1018 00:34:11,791 --> 00:34:12,707 A grabbing at either the pier or A log, 1019 00:34:13,124 --> 00:34:14,582 Or something like that. 1020 00:34:15,291 --> 00:34:17,249 Yeah, there's a lot of logs in That water there. 1021 00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:17,791 Well, he's going downriver. 1022 00:34:17,791 --> 00:34:19,208 Well, he's going downriver. 1023 00:34:19,916 --> 00:34:21,540 He's going to be grabbing at Everything he can. 1024 00:34:21,832 --> 00:34:22,707 What we know 1025 00:34:23,291 --> 00:34:23,791 Is he banged his head and he Drowned. 1026 00:34:23,791 --> 00:34:24,082 Is he banged his head and he Drowned. 1027 00:34:24,291 --> 00:34:25,416 Yeah. 1028 00:34:26,041 --> 00:34:27,666 Um, she lost another child, is That right? 1029 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,791 Well, what's that autopsy report Look like? 1030 00:34:29,791 --> 00:34:30,249 Well, what's that autopsy report Look like? 1031 00:34:30,708 --> 00:34:31,916 Here, take a look at this, 1032 00:34:32,666 --> 00:34:35,792 See if you can pick out the Prisoner who beat you. 1033 00:34:36,458 --> 00:34:37,416 No, I don't recognize any of These guys. 1034 00:34:37,666 --> 00:34:39,416 Okay... 1035 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,792 So you want to tell us what Happened? 1036 00:34:41,792 --> 00:34:42,500 So you want to tell us what Happened? 1037 00:34:42,958 --> 00:34:43,792 He was eating lunch with me, 1038 00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:45,333 And everything was okay 1039 00:34:45,958 --> 00:34:47,541 When he thought that I'd killed My wife, 1040 00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:50,083 But I told him I was in jail for Killing my dog, 1041 00:34:50,666 --> 00:34:52,042 And that's when he started Hitting me, 1042 00:34:52,750 --> 00:34:53,792 Saying, "You've got to draw the Line somewhere." 1043 00:34:53,792 --> 00:34:54,250 Saying, "You've got to draw the Line somewhere." 1044 00:34:54,958 --> 00:34:56,750 You can't put me back in there With those guys. 1045 00:34:57,625 --> 00:34:59,459 Well, we'll see if we can Arrange protective custody for You. 1046 00:34:59,792 --> 00:35:01,750 Yeah, do that. 1047 00:35:02,501 --> 00:35:03,792 Tell us what you did with her, And we'll see about it. 1048 00:35:04,584 --> 00:35:05,793 Have you talked to her father, Her friends? 1049 00:35:05,793 --> 00:35:07,125 Have you talked to her father, Her friends? 1050 00:35:07,459 --> 00:35:08,459 Maybe they know. 1051 00:35:09,083 --> 00:35:09,793 Yeah, we talked to your Father-in-law, 1052 00:35:10,334 --> 00:35:11,709 But he doesn't know where she Is. 1053 00:35:12,334 --> 00:35:13,375 Friends don't know where she is Either. 1054 00:35:13,959 --> 00:35:14,876 We've got a bulletin out on her Car, 1055 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:16,793 But nobody's seen it. 1056 00:35:17,667 --> 00:35:17,793 Your wife hasn't bought a bus, Train, or a plane ticket. 1057 00:35:17,793 --> 00:35:19,168 Your wife hasn't bought a bus, Train, or a plane ticket. 1058 00:35:19,959 --> 00:35:21,793 She hasn't used any of her Credit cards or her cash card. 1059 00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:23,126 In fact, the last time 1060 00:35:23,709 --> 00:35:23,793 Your wife was heard of on this Planet 1061 00:35:23,793 --> 00:35:25,001 Your wife was heard of on this Planet 1062 00:35:25,751 --> 00:35:27,001 Was in your presence in your House last tuesday night 1063 00:35:27,751 --> 00:35:29,793 - when the two of you argued. - Then we come along 1064 00:35:30,918 --> 00:35:32,126 - and find all that blood on Your kitchen floor. - that's my Dog's blood. 1065 00:35:32,585 --> 00:35:33,793 We had that blood analyzed, 1066 00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:35,084 And it turns out most of it's Human blood. 1067 00:35:35,502 --> 00:35:35,793 Is that going to turn out 1068 00:35:35,793 --> 00:35:36,710 Is that going to turn out 1069 00:35:37,126 --> 00:35:38,168 To be your wife's blood? 1070 00:35:38,627 --> 00:35:39,668 Yeah, well, she cut her foot. 1071 00:35:40,084 --> 00:35:41,293 She was walking around. 1072 00:35:41,794 --> 00:35:43,502 Maybe that's where it came from, 1073 00:35:44,335 --> 00:35:45,794 And that happened earlier in the Day, before we had the fight. 1074 00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:47,794 So how come you're just Remembering this now? 1075 00:35:47,794 --> 00:35:48,168 So how come you're just Remembering this now? 1076 00:35:48,752 --> 00:35:51,127 Because I'm just remembering it Now. 1077 00:35:51,502 --> 00:35:52,794 I didn't kill susan. 1078 00:35:53,585 --> 00:35:53,794 You want to charge me for Killing my dog, okay. 1079 00:35:53,794 --> 00:35:54,794 You want to charge me for Killing my dog, okay. 1080 00:35:55,335 --> 00:35:56,794 When that's done, I'm going Home. 1081 00:35:57,877 --> 00:35:59,794 Until then, you want to speak to Me again, you can talk to my Lawyer. 1082 00:35:59,794 --> 00:36:00,668 Until then, you want to speak to Me again, you can talk to my Lawyer. 1083 00:36:02,627 --> 00:36:04,461 This is the driver's side Window? 1084 00:36:05,252 --> 00:36:05,794 Yeah. The guy who towed the car Rolled the window down 1085 00:36:05,794 --> 00:36:07,211 Yeah. The guy who towed the car Rolled the window down 1086 00:36:07,669 --> 00:36:09,252 So he could secure the wheel, 1087 00:36:10,085 --> 00:36:11,336 And then I had a hell of a time Getting it out of the panel 1088 00:36:12,252 --> 00:36:13,795 Because of the crush, which is Why I didn't catch it right Away. 1089 00:36:14,419 --> 00:36:16,711 Here, take a look at this. 1090 00:36:17,169 --> 00:36:17,795 What is that little half-moon 1091 00:36:17,795 --> 00:36:18,711 What is that little half-moon 1092 00:36:19,044 --> 00:36:19,920 At the top there? 1093 00:36:20,503 --> 00:36:21,336 Yeah, that's what I'm talking About. 1094 00:36:21,753 --> 00:36:22,795 That's gunpowder residue. 1095 00:36:23,503 --> 00:36:23,795 So the doctor had his window Rolled down? 1096 00:36:23,795 --> 00:36:24,586 So the doctor had his window Rolled down? 1097 00:36:24,961 --> 00:36:25,628 About what, half-way? 1098 00:36:25,836 --> 00:36:26,795 Yeah. 1099 00:36:27,461 --> 00:36:29,377 Somebody shoots through the part That's open, 1100 00:36:30,045 --> 00:36:31,461 And the blast from the muzzle of The weapon 1101 00:36:32,086 --> 00:36:33,170 Leaves the residue on the Exposed glass. 1102 00:36:33,753 --> 00:36:34,669 Now, how close would you have to Be 1103 00:36:35,128 --> 00:36:35,795 To leave residue like that? 1104 00:36:35,795 --> 00:36:36,337 To leave residue like that? 1105 00:36:36,753 --> 00:36:37,836 About three or four feet. 1106 00:36:38,504 --> 00:36:40,670 That means whoever fired the Rifle had to be 1107 00:36:41,337 --> 00:36:41,795 Practically right next to the Doctor's car. 1108 00:36:41,795 --> 00:36:42,128 Practically right next to the Doctor's car. 1109 00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:43,795 Maybe another driver. 1110 00:36:44,045 --> 00:36:45,796 Right. 1111 00:36:46,629 --> 00:36:47,796 He's got the rifle barrel Propped on the passenger window, 1112 00:36:47,796 --> 00:36:48,003 He's got the rifle barrel Propped on the passenger window, 1113 00:36:48,587 --> 00:36:50,295 Pulls up alongside the doctor, Bang, 1114 00:36:51,086 --> 00:36:52,796 - and then he steps on the gas. - the light just changed, 1115 00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:53,796 - but he beats it through Anyway. - running the red. 1116 00:36:53,796 --> 00:36:54,712 - but he beats it through Anyway. - running the red. 1117 00:36:57,921 --> 00:36:59,462 Excuse me. Susan turner? 1118 00:36:59,712 --> 00:36:59,796 Uh-huh. 1119 00:36:59,796 --> 00:37:01,754 Uh-huh. 1120 00:37:02,670 --> 00:37:05,796 - I'm detective kosmo of Vancouver homicide. - how can I Help you? 1121 00:37:05,796 --> 00:37:06,046 - I'm detective kosmo of Vancouver homicide. - how can I Help you? 1122 00:37:06,837 --> 00:37:08,338 Did you know that we've been Looking for you, mrs. Turner? 1123 00:37:08,712 --> 00:37:10,505 No, I didn't. Why? 1124 00:37:10,879 --> 00:37:11,796 Where have you been? 1125 00:37:11,796 --> 00:37:12,338 Where have you been? 1126 00:37:12,962 --> 00:37:14,379 I've been on saltspring island, Camping. 1127 00:37:15,046 --> 00:37:17,797 Well, we have your husband in Jail downtown. 1128 00:37:17,797 --> 00:37:18,671 Well, we have your husband in Jail downtown. 1129 00:37:19,338 --> 00:37:21,838 - why? What did he do? - he Killed your dog. 1130 00:37:22,129 --> 00:37:23,797 Oh, he did. 1131 00:37:23,797 --> 00:37:25,797 Oh, he did. 1132 00:37:26,129 --> 00:37:27,713 Okay. 1133 00:37:28,671 --> 00:37:29,797 - were you aware he was going to Do that? - mm-hmm, he said he Was. 1134 00:37:29,797 --> 00:37:30,713 - were you aware he was going to Do that? - mm-hmm, he said he Was. 1135 00:37:31,254 --> 00:37:32,379 We had a little argument about It. 1136 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,255 Okay, so you knew about that... 1137 00:37:35,005 --> 00:37:35,797 And did you know that we've also Been looking at him 1138 00:37:35,797 --> 00:37:36,963 And did you know that we've also Been looking at him 1139 00:37:37,546 --> 00:37:38,963 - as a suspect in your murder? - Me? 1140 00:37:39,255 --> 00:37:41,797 No. God, no. 1141 00:37:41,797 --> 00:37:42,047 No. God, no. 1142 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:44,088 We had a domestic violence Complaint 1143 00:37:44,506 --> 00:37:45,838 Filed the other night. 1144 00:37:46,297 --> 00:37:47,797 Oh. We fought, like I said, 1145 00:37:47,797 --> 00:37:48,005 Oh. We fought, like I said, 1146 00:37:48,797 --> 00:37:52,631 But, I mean, he never threatened To kill me or anything. 1147 00:37:53,172 --> 00:37:53,798 So you didn't read any Newspapers 1148 00:37:53,798 --> 00:37:54,380 So you didn't read any Newspapers 1149 00:37:55,047 --> 00:37:56,214 Over there on the island, listen To the radio? 1150 00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:58,881 You had no idea we were looking For you. 1151 00:37:59,464 --> 00:37:59,798 I go to get away from all that Noise. 1152 00:37:59,798 --> 00:38:01,422 I go to get away from all that Noise. 1153 00:38:01,798 --> 00:38:02,798 So you weren't just 1154 00:38:03,506 --> 00:38:04,798 Letting him stew over there in Jail 1155 00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:05,798 - to teach him a lesson for Killing your dog? - no. 1156 00:38:05,798 --> 00:38:06,923 - to teach him a lesson for Killing your dog? - no. 1157 00:38:09,131 --> 00:38:11,173 Right. 1158 00:38:11,672 --> 00:38:11,798 What's going to happen to fred? 1159 00:38:11,798 --> 00:38:13,589 What's going to happen to fred? 1160 00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:15,340 Well, he's at the remand centre, 1161 00:38:16,048 --> 00:38:17,672 Waiting to appear on charges of Killing ginger. 1162 00:38:18,465 --> 00:38:20,089 Is that, like, a fine, or could He go to jail for that? 1163 00:38:21,006 --> 00:38:22,632 He could do six months if the Judge felt like giving it to Him. 1164 00:38:23,215 --> 00:38:23,799 I didn't realize it was that Serious. 1165 00:38:23,799 --> 00:38:26,381 I didn't realize it was that Serious. 1166 00:38:27,381 --> 00:38:29,799 - you might want to go there and Let him know you're home. - Yeah, okay. 1167 00:38:29,799 --> 00:38:31,632 - you might want to go there and Let him know you're home. - Yeah, okay. 1168 00:38:32,298 --> 00:38:34,049 I think I'm going to have a hot Bath first, 1169 00:38:34,632 --> 00:38:35,799 And then I'll make my way down, Okay? 1170 00:38:35,799 --> 00:38:36,799 And then I'll make my way down, Okay? 1171 00:38:38,049 --> 00:38:41,132 - next time, let somebody know When you'll disappear. - yeah, Okay, I'll do that. 1172 00:38:49,673 --> 00:38:50,799 See, I'm reading from the Autopsy report here, 1173 00:38:51,257 --> 00:38:52,508 And the pathologist recorded 1174 00:38:53,174 --> 00:38:53,799 A number of blunt trauma blows To the head. 1175 00:38:53,799 --> 00:38:55,174 A number of blunt trauma blows To the head. 1176 00:38:55,716 --> 00:38:56,758 Now, these could have been Caused 1177 00:38:57,216 --> 00:38:58,800 By that fall down the cliff, 1178 00:38:59,633 --> 00:38:59,800 Or it could have been by an Actual blow to the head, 1179 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,216 Or it could have been by an Actual blow to the head, 1180 00:39:01,883 --> 00:39:03,466 "But the child was rendered dead Not by these, 1181 00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:05,800 But by prolonged exposure in Inaccessible terrain." 1182 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,216 But by prolonged exposure in Inaccessible terrain." 1183 00:39:08,508 --> 00:39:09,800 That's right. 1184 00:39:10,299 --> 00:39:11,800 The rescue team 1185 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:11,883 The rescue team 1186 00:39:12,549 --> 00:39:13,966 Couldn't recover the body from The mountain 1187 00:39:14,341 --> 00:39:16,591 For almost 24 hours. 1188 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:17,800 Sounds very similar to the Present circumstances 1189 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,800 Sounds very similar to the Present circumstances 1190 00:39:19,508 --> 00:39:20,800 And what happened to alexander Down by the river. 1191 00:39:21,217 --> 00:39:23,800 What are you suggesting? 1192 00:39:24,716 --> 00:39:26,342 Well, it's my job as coroner to Investigate these deaths. 1193 00:39:26,925 --> 00:39:29,800 Max's death was already Investigated. 1194 00:39:30,634 --> 00:39:32,258 Doesn't mean I can't or I won't Continue to investigate it. 1195 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:33,966 If you think 1196 00:39:34,717 --> 00:39:35,801 You're the first person to Accuse me of killing max, 1197 00:39:35,801 --> 00:39:36,884 You're the first person to Accuse me of killing max, 1198 00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:38,342 You're wrong. 1199 00:39:38,592 --> 00:39:41,051 Really? 1200 00:39:41,675 --> 00:39:41,801 Oh, I see, so there was a number Of people 1201 00:39:41,801 --> 00:39:43,092 Oh, I see, so there was a number Of people 1202 00:39:43,842 --> 00:39:45,884 That were pretty concerned about Max's death, then? 1203 00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:47,801 There were people who suspected Me 1204 00:39:47,801 --> 00:39:48,176 There were people who suspected Me 1205 00:39:48,634 --> 00:39:49,634 And those who supported me. 1206 00:39:50,051 --> 00:39:51,426 Whatever your opinion is, 1207 00:39:51,842 --> 00:39:53,301 It doesn't make it so. 1208 00:39:53,967 --> 00:39:55,468 If I'm one of the tiny Percentage of people 1209 00:39:56,134 --> 00:39:58,384 Who suffer the death of more Than one child, 1210 00:39:58,926 --> 00:39:59,801 That makes me unlucky, not Guilty. 1211 00:39:59,801 --> 00:40:00,301 That makes me unlucky, not Guilty. 1212 00:40:00,884 --> 00:40:03,676 Well, you know, some people Might say 1213 00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:05,802 That having a second child die In unsupervised circumstances 1214 00:40:05,802 --> 00:40:07,176 That having a second child die In unsupervised circumstances 1215 00:40:07,885 --> 00:40:10,176 Might suggest that you were Being irresponsible, 1216 00:40:10,885 --> 00:40:11,802 It had nothing to do with you Being lucky or not. 1217 00:40:11,802 --> 00:40:12,218 It had nothing to do with you Being lucky or not. 1218 00:40:12,551 --> 00:40:14,343 You're suggesting 1219 00:40:14,968 --> 00:40:17,259 That I shouldn't have had Another child, 1220 00:40:17,968 --> 00:40:19,260 Or that I should have kept him Tied up on a leash? 1221 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,260 No, that's not what I'm saying. 1222 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:23,802 I'm suggesting that when it Comes to a second child, 1223 00:40:23,802 --> 00:40:24,219 I'm suggesting that when it Comes to a second child, 1224 00:40:24,843 --> 00:40:25,802 Maybe you might have exerted More caution. 1225 00:40:26,302 --> 00:40:27,511 I was cautious. 1226 00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:29,676 It happened in a split second. I Just-- 1227 00:40:30,052 --> 00:40:30,968 Would you be willing 1228 00:40:31,552 --> 00:40:32,385 To undergo a psychiatric Examination? 1229 00:40:32,843 --> 00:40:34,677 Why would I want to do that? 1230 00:40:35,427 --> 00:40:35,802 - because I still have concerns. - are we finished? 1231 00:40:35,802 --> 00:40:37,803 - because I still have concerns. - are we finished? 1232 00:40:41,219 --> 00:40:41,803 Until I have some more Questions. 1233 00:40:41,803 --> 00:40:42,302 Until I have some more Questions. 1234 00:40:42,928 --> 00:40:44,093 If you're planning on leaving Vancouver, 1235 00:40:44,511 --> 00:40:46,177 Let me or my office know. 1236 00:40:49,552 --> 00:40:51,220 I'm just planning to go to my Son's funeral. 1237 00:40:51,677 --> 00:40:53,178 Well, see, I have plans, too. 1238 00:40:53,803 --> 00:40:55,053 I plan to keep this Investigation going 1239 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,803 Until I receive a satisfactory Explanation. 1240 00:40:58,386 --> 00:40:59,803 Then I guess we'll meet again. 1241 00:40:59,803 --> 00:41:01,303 Then I guess we'll meet again. 1242 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:05,803 The fbi says they don't have Anybody 1243 00:41:05,803 --> 00:41:07,303 The fbi says they don't have Anybody 1244 00:41:08,053 --> 00:41:09,178 That shoots from a moving car That they know about, 1245 00:41:09,678 --> 00:41:11,428 So our guy's new on the scene, 1246 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:14,762 But I think we got lucky. This Could be our guy right here. 1247 00:41:17,261 --> 00:41:17,804 This is one of those Intersection cameras 1248 00:41:17,804 --> 00:41:19,762 This is one of those Intersection cameras 1249 00:41:20,428 --> 00:41:21,678 They use to catch vehicles Running red lights. 1250 00:41:22,179 --> 00:41:23,428 Right. This intersection there, 1251 00:41:24,054 --> 00:41:24,970 That's the one where that doctor Got shot. 1252 00:41:25,470 --> 00:41:25,804 Three cars ran a red that day, 1253 00:41:26,428 --> 00:41:27,221 And if you just look there, 1254 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:28,804 The blue chevy racing through, 1255 00:41:29,221 --> 00:41:29,804 That could be our guy. 1256 00:41:29,804 --> 00:41:30,346 That could be our guy. 1257 00:41:31,054 --> 00:41:31,929 You can kind of make out the Licence plate there. 1258 00:41:32,304 --> 00:41:33,595 It's, what, ontario? 1259 00:41:34,304 --> 00:41:35,471 Yeah, it's registered to a Thomas george cooley. 1260 00:41:35,845 --> 00:41:36,596 He's 24 years old. 1261 00:41:37,054 --> 00:41:38,012 The address is his parents. 1262 00:41:38,638 --> 00:41:39,804 Rcmp out there are going to talk To them, 1263 00:41:40,554 --> 00:41:41,721 See if their son's been around Lately. 1264 00:41:42,513 --> 00:41:44,262 Is this thomas cooley registered Anywhere in the system? 1265 00:41:45,012 --> 00:41:46,554 No arrest record, but he was in The canadian army. 1266 00:41:47,304 --> 00:41:47,805 He was in kosovo. He just Mustered out last month. 1267 00:41:47,805 --> 00:41:48,679 He was in kosovo. He just Mustered out last month. 1268 00:41:49,179 --> 00:41:50,013 Is he on anybody else's radar? 1269 00:41:50,346 --> 00:41:51,805 He doesn't belong 1270 00:41:52,638 --> 00:41:53,805 To any anti-abortion groups that Anybody knows about. 1271 00:41:53,805 --> 00:41:54,013 To any anti-abortion groups that Anybody knows about. 1272 00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:57,262 So maybe this is a guy just Running a red light. 1273 00:41:57,763 --> 00:41:59,513 Yeah, maybe, but his army record 1274 00:42:00,346 --> 00:42:01,805 Indicates that he's a hell of a Marksman. His sergeant said 1275 00:42:02,638 --> 00:42:04,013 He could hit a moving target at 300 yards. 1276 00:42:06,013 --> 00:42:11,805 Run for cover. 96250