Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:13,125 --> 00:00:15,250
[bright tone]
2
00:00:37,166 --> 00:00:39,333
- Okay, this is Ruth Litoff's
photography
3
00:00:39,417 --> 00:00:43,458
and a portrait of her sister.
4
00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:47,709
Do you want to talk
about your sister?
5
00:00:47,792 --> 00:00:50,041
- I love my sister very much.
6
00:00:50,125 --> 00:00:52,458
She's probably
the most important person to me
7
00:00:52,542 --> 00:00:55,917
in the world.
8
00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,959
[melancholy music]
9
00:00:59,041 --> 00:01:06,125
♪ ♪
10
00:01:11,250 --> 00:01:14,375
- So...
11
00:01:14,458 --> 00:01:17,083
What are your plans
for the storage space?
12
00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:22,208
♪ ♪
13
00:01:22,291 --> 00:01:24,083
- What do you mean?
14
00:01:24,166 --> 00:01:25,834
- [laughs nervously] Um...
15
00:01:25,917 --> 00:01:27,500
Are you gonna look
at the things?
16
00:01:27,583 --> 00:01:32,166
When do you think
that you're gonna do that?
17
00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:35,417
♪ ♪
18
00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:38,750
- I don't like
to remember things,
19
00:01:38,834 --> 00:01:41,750
and I feel like
all the memories are in there.
20
00:01:41,834 --> 00:01:46,792
♪ ♪
21
00:01:46,875 --> 00:01:50,375
Okay, we're gonna do it.
22
00:01:50,458 --> 00:01:52,875
If I throw up on that lens,
23
00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:54,375
are we covered?
- Yeah.
24
00:01:54,458 --> 00:01:55,667
- [laughs]
25
00:01:55,750 --> 00:02:02,834
♪ ♪
26
00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:08,250
Are you worried that when I
27
00:02:08,333 --> 00:02:09,458
start looking through
this stuff,
28
00:02:09,542 --> 00:02:12,000
that I'm gonna go crazy?
29
00:02:12,083 --> 00:02:14,542
- I worry that you think
you're gonna go crazy.
30
00:02:14,625 --> 00:02:21,709
♪ ♪
31
00:02:52,542 --> 00:02:55,792
- You know Jane got me a space
in Brooklyn for three months.
32
00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:57,375
- That's good.
33
00:02:57,458 --> 00:03:00,542
♪ ♪
34
00:03:00,625 --> 00:03:03,000
- Hi, I'm Hope.
- Chris.
35
00:03:03,083 --> 00:03:06,000
♪ ♪
36
00:03:06,083 --> 00:03:08,125
- Everyone in my
suicide bereavement group
37
00:03:08,208 --> 00:03:11,125
has a storage space
that they can't unpack
38
00:03:11,208 --> 00:03:13,000
of their dead person.
39
00:03:13,083 --> 00:03:14,917
- Are you the first person
to unpack her storage space?
40
00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,375
- I'm gonna be the first one.
41
00:03:18,458 --> 00:03:21,041
- Do you think that
this is gonna be helpful?
42
00:03:21,125 --> 00:03:22,458
You feel compelled to do it?
43
00:03:22,542 --> 00:03:25,041
- I feel compelled to do it.
44
00:03:25,125 --> 00:03:26,166
- Clearing everything out?
45
00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:27,083
- Yeah.
46
00:03:27,166 --> 00:03:30,917
♪ ♪
47
00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,959
It's been six years.
48
00:03:33,041 --> 00:03:35,208
I feel like I've trapped her
in there...
49
00:03:35,291 --> 00:03:40,000
♪ ♪
50
00:03:40,083 --> 00:03:42,875
but I think
she's mad at me.
51
00:03:42,959 --> 00:03:45,750
- Why?
52
00:03:45,834 --> 00:03:49,709
- Because I was
a bad sister.
53
00:03:49,792 --> 00:03:52,208
- How were you
a bad sister?
54
00:03:52,291 --> 00:03:55,000
- You're kidding, right?
55
00:03:55,083 --> 00:03:56,583
Not kidding?
56
00:03:56,667 --> 00:03:58,375
- No. I-I-I don't see
how you were a bad sister.
57
00:03:58,458 --> 00:04:00,041
- I didn't s--
58
00:04:00,125 --> 00:04:02,458
- From my perspective, she was
not the greatest sister
59
00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,041
in the world.
60
00:04:04,125 --> 00:04:06,041
- But she was sick,
and I wasn't.
61
00:04:06,125 --> 00:04:08,875
- Well, how were you
a bad sister?
62
00:04:08,959 --> 00:04:11,333
- I didn't save her.
63
00:04:11,417 --> 00:04:18,500
♪ ♪
64
00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,375
[van beeping]
65
00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,583
- I'll show you where it is.
- Okay.
66
00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:38,250
- [laughs]
67
00:04:38,333 --> 00:04:42,834
This hallway feels like
an insane asylum.
68
00:04:45,959 --> 00:04:48,917
[ethereal music]
69
00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,917
♪ ♪
70
00:04:56,125 --> 00:05:03,208
♪ ♪
71
00:05:03,792 --> 00:05:07,417
- In one of her
suicide notes, she said
72
00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:09,000
she definitely wanted
her photographs
73
00:05:09,083 --> 00:05:11,166
to be out in the world
74
00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:13,792
being seen
and being enjoyed by people,
75
00:05:13,875 --> 00:05:16,250
but I'm paralyzed.
I can't--
76
00:05:16,333 --> 00:05:17,667
I can't give them up.
77
00:05:17,750 --> 00:05:19,375
♪ ♪
78
00:05:19,458 --> 00:05:22,041
I just need my moment
with all of it.
79
00:05:22,125 --> 00:05:29,208
♪ ♪
80
00:05:41,667 --> 00:05:43,750
Do you think that's the last--
- We decided one more trip.
81
00:05:43,834 --> 00:05:45,333
- One more trip? Okay.
82
00:05:45,417 --> 00:05:52,542
♪ ♪
83
00:06:01,834 --> 00:06:03,375
Thank you.
84
00:06:03,458 --> 00:06:10,583
♪ ♪
85
00:06:20,709 --> 00:06:24,041
- I got everything.
86
00:06:24,125 --> 00:06:26,375
- Kids, you have everything
you need?
87
00:06:26,458 --> 00:06:28,083
- Mm-hmm.
88
00:06:28,166 --> 00:06:29,709
- Ticket?
- Yeah.
89
00:06:29,792 --> 00:06:31,333
- Wallet, cell phone,
everything you need?
90
00:06:31,417 --> 00:06:33,041
- I got everything.
91
00:06:33,125 --> 00:06:35,166
- I'm gonna miss you guys,
but I'm gonna come
92
00:06:35,250 --> 00:06:36,792
in two days.
93
00:06:36,875 --> 00:06:38,166
- Hug and a kiss. Let's go.
94
00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:39,458
- I don't wanna...
95
00:06:39,542 --> 00:06:42,625
[kissing]
96
00:06:43,333 --> 00:06:44,291
- [chuckles]
97
00:06:44,375 --> 00:06:45,458
- Okay.
98
00:06:47,417 --> 00:06:49,291
Enough hugging and kissing.
Let's go.
99
00:06:49,375 --> 00:06:51,542
- All right, don't be late.
100
00:06:51,625 --> 00:06:53,500
- Bye.
- Bye.
101
00:06:53,583 --> 00:06:56,250
I love you. Safe travels.
- I'll miss you.
102
00:06:56,333 --> 00:06:58,291
- Love you guys.
103
00:06:58,375 --> 00:06:59,917
Save some sand for me.
104
00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,208
- Bye, bye, guys.
See you later.
105
00:07:01,291 --> 00:07:03,291
- Bye.
106
00:07:21,583 --> 00:07:24,542
- Stuff was very important
to Ruth.
107
00:07:27,083 --> 00:07:29,083
I mean, everything was
important to her,
108
00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:31,667
and that's why
she saved everything.
109
00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:37,417
I think, if I can look at
what was important to her,
110
00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,375
I could get some answers.
111
00:07:57,125 --> 00:07:58,333
Ambien...
112
00:07:58,417 --> 00:08:00,709
[faint string music]
113
00:08:00,792 --> 00:08:03,834
Lamictal.
114
00:08:03,917 --> 00:08:07,125
- How many times
did she try to kill herself?
115
00:08:07,208 --> 00:08:08,917
- A lot.
116
00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000
Twenty?
117
00:08:10,083 --> 00:08:15,250
♪ ♪
118
00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:18,208
"Dear sir/madam,
119
00:08:18,291 --> 00:08:20,125
"I'm writing to you
regarding Ruth Litoff,
120
00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:22,291
"who's a patient of mine.
121
00:08:22,375 --> 00:08:25,500
"Ruth Litoff experiences
severe mood swings,
122
00:08:25,583 --> 00:08:27,166
"severe depression,
123
00:08:27,250 --> 00:08:30,583
and profound
suicidal ideation."
124
00:08:30,667 --> 00:08:35,834
♪ ♪
125
00:08:35,917 --> 00:08:39,250
I would love to map out
what happened.
126
00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:42,500
♪ ♪
127
00:08:42,583 --> 00:08:44,333
I can't ask my parents,
128
00:08:44,417 --> 00:08:46,083
because they're both dead.
129
00:08:46,166 --> 00:08:50,208
♪ ♪
130
00:08:50,291 --> 00:08:54,250
But I feel like Ruth's stuff
has clues in it.
131
00:08:54,333 --> 00:09:00,875
♪ ♪
132
00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:02,542
Do you see that piece
right there?
133
00:09:02,625 --> 00:09:04,041
- Yeah.
134
00:09:04,125 --> 00:09:05,458
- What's really special
about this
135
00:09:05,542 --> 00:09:07,458
is this is the front...
136
00:09:11,208 --> 00:09:14,834
but here's the secret message
to me.
137
00:09:14,917 --> 00:09:16,625
The...
138
00:09:16,709 --> 00:09:18,208
blowing of the bubbles, like,
139
00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,583
maybe something we would do
as kids,
140
00:09:20,667 --> 00:09:23,792
and then there's also sort of
141
00:09:23,875 --> 00:09:29,041
foreshadowing of dying,
142
00:09:29,125 --> 00:09:31,917
sort of when you would be
"forever dancing."
143
00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:41,834
[melancholy string music]
144
00:09:41,917 --> 00:09:44,667
Growing up with
a mentally ill person,
145
00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:47,959
it was a little bit like
comedy and tragedy.
146
00:09:48,041 --> 00:09:49,959
♪ ♪
147
00:09:50,041 --> 00:09:52,834
It was such
a confusing illness,
148
00:09:52,917 --> 00:09:56,417
because she could be
so debilitated
149
00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:59,834
and so magnificent.
150
00:09:59,917 --> 00:10:02,083
♪ ♪
151
00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:04,500
When we were young,
152
00:10:04,583 --> 00:10:06,583
I absolutely idolized her.
153
00:10:06,667 --> 00:10:08,417
I wanted to be like her.
154
00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:10,875
I wanted to dress like her.
155
00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:14,083
I wanted to be able
to do art like her,
156
00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:15,917
♪ ♪
157
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,166
She was the master
of everything,
158
00:10:18,250 --> 00:10:20,625
and I was her assistant.
159
00:10:20,709 --> 00:10:23,083
I would sort the Lego pieces
160
00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:25,500
and then she would build
the castle.
161
00:10:25,583 --> 00:10:28,250
And I was so young.
I was, like--
162
00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:29,792
She could've been
a cult leader,
163
00:10:29,875 --> 00:10:32,542
she was so charismatic.
164
00:10:32,625 --> 00:10:34,917
We used to play
this really fun game
165
00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,291
when my parents would go out.
166
00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:40,458
She was three years older,
so she could babysit me,
167
00:10:40,542 --> 00:10:42,458
and we would do everything
168
00:10:42,542 --> 00:10:43,875
we weren't allowed to do
in the house,
169
00:10:43,959 --> 00:10:46,166
which was not
that many things.
170
00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:48,542
We would eat ice cream
in bed,
171
00:10:48,625 --> 00:10:50,333
and every time the phone rang,
172
00:10:50,417 --> 00:10:51,625
we would just pick it up
173
00:10:51,709 --> 00:10:53,750
and scream into the receiver.
174
00:10:53,834 --> 00:10:55,291
[laughs]
175
00:10:55,375 --> 00:10:57,041
That was really fun.
176
00:10:57,125 --> 00:10:58,458
♪ ♪
177
00:10:58,542 --> 00:11:00,917
She taught me how to draw.
178
00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,709
This was a huge deal.
She taught me
179
00:11:02,792 --> 00:11:04,750
how to draw a profile,
180
00:11:04,834 --> 00:11:06,458
and I was the only kid
in the class
181
00:11:06,542 --> 00:11:09,041
who knew how to draw
a profile.
182
00:11:09,125 --> 00:11:10,834
When she started
taking photographs
183
00:11:10,917 --> 00:11:12,625
when we were really young,
my dad built her
184
00:11:12,709 --> 00:11:14,417
a darkroom in the closet,
185
00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:16,583
and she would stay in there
for hours
186
00:11:16,667 --> 00:11:19,500
and she would print
the same photograph
187
00:11:19,583 --> 00:11:21,083
over and over again,
188
00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:22,542
and then she would show them
to me,
189
00:11:22,625 --> 00:11:24,166
and it was almost
like a test--
190
00:11:24,250 --> 00:11:26,458
which one of these
is the best one--
191
00:11:26,542 --> 00:11:28,417
and I would really want to
get it right,
192
00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:29,959
and then she would
explain to me
193
00:11:30,041 --> 00:11:32,500
why this one was better
than this one,
194
00:11:32,583 --> 00:11:34,583
and it was really cool.
195
00:11:34,667 --> 00:11:38,583
It was really cool
to have a sister like that.
196
00:11:38,667 --> 00:11:41,709
[unearthly
electric guitar music]
197
00:11:41,792 --> 00:11:44,208
♪ ♪
198
00:11:44,291 --> 00:11:46,250
In high school,
199
00:11:46,333 --> 00:11:48,625
she was very popular.
200
00:11:48,709 --> 00:11:50,291
She also had
201
00:11:50,375 --> 00:11:53,250
a fabulous figure.
202
00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:56,083
Captain of all
the sports teams.
203
00:11:56,166 --> 00:11:57,792
I would sit on her feet
204
00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:00,041
so she could do 100 sit-ups
every night.
205
00:12:00,125 --> 00:12:02,875
- What was her title?
Like...
206
00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:05,166
Like, she--
wasn't she, like, the best shot
207
00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:08,125
in the United States
of America under 13
208
00:12:08,208 --> 00:12:11,125
or something?
- The best shot in America
209
00:12:11,208 --> 00:12:12,375
for 16 and under
210
00:12:12,458 --> 00:12:14,250
with a .22 rifle.
211
00:12:16,166 --> 00:12:18,417
She was always gonna be
the winner.
212
00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:22,333
Whatever contest
or competition or art project,
213
00:12:22,417 --> 00:12:25,250
she was going
to come in first.
214
00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:26,959
♪ ♪
215
00:12:27,041 --> 00:12:30,458
I mean, there wasn't anything
she couldn't do.
216
00:12:30,542 --> 00:12:33,667
That's what makes it
so hard to understand.
217
00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:35,417
♪ ♪
218
00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:36,959
- I never really feel
pressure.
219
00:12:37,041 --> 00:12:39,083
I never feel like
I have to do something
220
00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:42,250
to prove myself.
I never have to prove myself.
221
00:12:42,333 --> 00:12:45,375
But I think it would be
exciting,
222
00:12:45,458 --> 00:12:47,083
I think, to start all over.
223
00:12:47,166 --> 00:12:49,041
I sometimes wish I could just
224
00:12:49,125 --> 00:12:50,542
wash the slate clean,
225
00:12:50,625 --> 00:12:52,625
just start all over again.
226
00:13:01,834 --> 00:13:04,375
- Oh, here it is.
227
00:13:04,458 --> 00:13:08,417
[melancholy music]
228
00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:10,709
I found her on
229
00:13:10,792 --> 00:13:13,125
December 12, 2008.
230
00:13:13,208 --> 00:13:14,792
♪ ♪
231
00:13:14,875 --> 00:13:17,458
I got a call from
one of Ruth's best friends,
232
00:13:17,542 --> 00:13:20,500
who said, "I haven't heard
from Ruth in three days,"
233
00:13:20,583 --> 00:13:22,959
and I pretty much knew.
234
00:13:23,041 --> 00:13:25,250
- I remember,
guys were walking down the hall
235
00:13:25,333 --> 00:13:27,792
with axes to break
the door down.
236
00:13:27,875 --> 00:13:29,250
♪ ♪
237
00:13:29,333 --> 00:13:30,917
- [exhales deeply]
238
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,959
And then,
the police let us in.
239
00:13:34,041 --> 00:13:35,542
♪ ♪
240
00:13:35,625 --> 00:13:37,333
It sounds like
a strange thing to say,
241
00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:38,917
but she had made it
242
00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,625
as beautiful as one of
her photographs.
243
00:13:41,709 --> 00:13:44,458
♪ ♪
244
00:13:44,542 --> 00:13:45,959
I saw her shoulder.
245
00:13:46,041 --> 00:13:48,750
I didn't want to look at
her face.
246
00:13:48,834 --> 00:13:51,458
- I remember all of the
letters around.
247
00:13:51,542 --> 00:13:53,834
- There were notes everywhere,
248
00:13:53,917 --> 00:13:56,834
and she tried to remember
all the people she loved
249
00:13:56,917 --> 00:13:59,291
and left them presents.
250
00:13:59,375 --> 00:14:01,291
- There were Post-it notes
on things
251
00:14:01,375 --> 00:14:03,667
saying what to do with them.
252
00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:05,834
- The police officer
said to me,
253
00:14:05,917 --> 00:14:07,834
"I've never seen anything
like this."
254
00:14:07,917 --> 00:14:12,333
♪ ♪
255
00:14:12,417 --> 00:14:15,000
And then, there was my note.
256
00:14:15,083 --> 00:14:17,667
♪ ♪
257
00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:19,333
It was...
258
00:14:19,417 --> 00:14:21,500
loving,
259
00:14:21,583 --> 00:14:24,959
kind,
260
00:14:25,041 --> 00:14:26,917
even optimistic...
261
00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,333
♪ ♪
262
00:14:30,417 --> 00:14:32,583
and in very small handwriting,
263
00:14:32,667 --> 00:14:34,875
off to the side,
264
00:14:34,959 --> 00:14:38,000
she wrote "I know you know,"
265
00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:40,792
and I have no idea
what that means.
266
00:14:40,875 --> 00:14:42,041
♪ ♪
267
00:14:42,125 --> 00:14:43,375
[sighs]
268
00:14:43,458 --> 00:14:44,583
- Are you trying to find
269
00:14:44,667 --> 00:14:45,875
some sort of objective truth
270
00:14:45,959 --> 00:14:47,542
about, uh--
271
00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:49,041
about what happened,
or her life?
272
00:14:49,125 --> 00:14:52,166
I mean, is that
what you're looking for?
273
00:14:52,250 --> 00:14:53,667
- Yes.
274
00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:56,709
[melancholy guitar music]
275
00:14:56,792 --> 00:15:03,917
♪ ♪
276
00:15:05,208 --> 00:15:08,667
Why Ruth and not me?
277
00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:11,291
Why was Ruth sick
and I wasn't sick?
278
00:15:11,375 --> 00:15:13,041
We had the same parents.
279
00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:15,041
♪ ♪
280
00:15:15,125 --> 00:15:19,083
My dad was very, sort of,
1950s, "Mad Men."
281
00:15:19,166 --> 00:15:21,583
You know, you work hard,
you play hard,
282
00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:24,417
you're not that involved
with the children.
283
00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:27,458
My mom really got
the brunt of it.
284
00:15:27,542 --> 00:15:29,083
Lots of drama.
285
00:15:29,166 --> 00:15:32,083
Whatever mood Ruth was in
was the mood
286
00:15:32,166 --> 00:15:34,583
the whole family
was gonna be in.
287
00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:37,291
The message,
very early on, was,
288
00:15:37,375 --> 00:15:38,750
"Be on high alert,
289
00:15:38,834 --> 00:15:40,250
"don't create any waves,
290
00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:42,583
"don't upset your sister,
291
00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:44,917
and don't make it worse."
292
00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,792
♪ ♪
293
00:15:46,875 --> 00:15:49,250
We looked perfect
on the outside,
294
00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:52,000
but we were rotting
on the inside.
295
00:15:52,083 --> 00:15:54,333
♪ ♪
296
00:15:54,417 --> 00:15:55,792
I dealt with it
297
00:15:55,875 --> 00:15:57,417
by disappearing
298
00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:59,583
into drugs and alcohol.
299
00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:01,250
Ruth dealt with it
300
00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,875
by demanding more
and more and more,
301
00:16:04,959 --> 00:16:07,834
and if she didn't get
what she wanted,
302
00:16:07,917 --> 00:16:10,166
she would threaten
to kill herself.
303
00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:14,166
♪ ♪
304
00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,834
Her first attempt--
305
00:16:15,917 --> 00:16:18,291
she was 16 and I was 13,
306
00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:21,000
and she begged me
to sleep in bed with her.
307
00:16:21,083 --> 00:16:22,333
♪ ♪
308
00:16:22,417 --> 00:16:24,041
When we woke up,
309
00:16:24,125 --> 00:16:26,875
I found out that she had
taken a bottle of pills.
310
00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:29,583
♪ ♪
311
00:16:29,667 --> 00:16:31,458
What if I woke up
312
00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:33,875
and my big sister was dead?
313
00:16:33,959 --> 00:16:36,542
We were in the same bed,
and I didn't know.
314
00:16:36,625 --> 00:16:43,750
♪ ♪
315
00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:54,333
Now that I've started
the project,
316
00:16:54,417 --> 00:16:56,959
I don't sleep very well.
317
00:16:57,041 --> 00:17:00,166
Thinking about my sister a lot.
Um...
318
00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:02,542
I'm in a fight with my husband,
319
00:17:02,625 --> 00:17:05,542
because he says
that I'm depressed,
320
00:17:05,625 --> 00:17:09,917
but I think that I am
321
00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,667
just grieving.
322
00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:13,417
Think it's really hard
for him to understand.
323
00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:17,542
He hasn't lost
a parent.
324
00:17:17,625 --> 00:17:21,333
He even has
a great-grandparent in her 90s.
325
00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:23,875
I feel like he hasn't
even lost a hamster.
326
00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:25,834
I feel like
you enter a club
327
00:17:25,917 --> 00:17:28,875
when one of your parents dies,
328
00:17:28,959 --> 00:17:31,625
and until one of your parents
dies,
329
00:17:31,709 --> 00:17:34,125
you don't know
what it's like,
330
00:17:34,208 --> 00:17:37,208
but when you enter
the suicide club
331
00:17:37,291 --> 00:17:41,041
it's a very...
332
00:17:41,125 --> 00:17:43,542
small club,
333
00:17:43,625 --> 00:17:45,667
elite club.
334
00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:47,542
"Elite" sounds almost positive,
335
00:17:47,625 --> 00:17:49,542
but I don't mean it that way.
336
00:17:49,625 --> 00:17:53,375
I'm just--mean that...
337
00:17:53,458 --> 00:17:56,083
Uh, I don't--
338
00:17:56,166 --> 00:17:59,750
I don't know if
civilians can get it.
339
00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:07,667
[door unlocks, clicks open]
340
00:18:10,583 --> 00:18:13,000
- Have you just
been coming here alone?
341
00:18:13,083 --> 00:18:14,166
- Yeah.
342
00:18:17,208 --> 00:18:19,083
- Wow, it's really big.
343
00:18:19,166 --> 00:18:20,417
Oh, my God.
344
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:23,417
- A lot of stuff, right?
- A lot of pills.
345
00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,291
- Yeah.
346
00:18:26,375 --> 00:18:28,291
- That's crazy.
347
00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:33,083
- That's only from 1999
until she died in 2008.
348
00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:35,500
- How old was she
when she killed herself?
349
00:18:35,583 --> 00:18:37,583
- 42.
350
00:18:37,667 --> 00:18:40,875
- Why would she
save them all?
351
00:18:40,959 --> 00:18:43,542
- I think she wanted to--
352
00:18:43,625 --> 00:18:45,083
I have two theories.
I think she wanted
353
00:18:45,166 --> 00:18:47,041
to make an art project
out of them,
354
00:18:47,125 --> 00:18:49,500
but I also think
she just wanted proof
355
00:18:49,583 --> 00:18:51,417
as to how hard
she had been trying
356
00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:53,166
to get well.
357
00:18:53,250 --> 00:18:55,458
- And you did this?
- Yes.
358
00:18:55,542 --> 00:18:57,500
- What pills are they?
What are they?
359
00:18:57,583 --> 00:18:59,083
- Look at them.
360
00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:00,750
Feel free.
361
00:19:00,834 --> 00:19:02,125
- Ambien...
362
00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:05,458
- That's a sleeping pill.
363
00:19:05,542 --> 00:19:07,166
- Dextrostat...
364
00:19:07,250 --> 00:19:11,417
- Lithium, I think,
is for bipolar disorder.
365
00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:15,083
- Dex--more dextrostat.
366
00:19:15,166 --> 00:19:19,125
You should get rid of
all of these immediately.
367
00:19:19,208 --> 00:19:20,875
- Why do you think
I should get rid of them?
368
00:19:20,959 --> 00:19:22,583
- Because I don't think
you should have
369
00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:24,458
the temptation to take them.
- I'm not.
370
00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:26,333
- This is just crazy.
371
00:19:26,417 --> 00:19:27,458
- Right?
372
00:19:27,542 --> 00:19:30,041
And none of these helped her.
373
00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:32,166
- Zolpidem.
374
00:19:32,250 --> 00:19:35,500
This is nuts.
- That's Ambien, too.
375
00:19:35,583 --> 00:19:37,542
That's the generic name.
376
00:19:37,625 --> 00:19:39,250
- Holy shit.
377
00:19:39,333 --> 00:19:40,875
Just throw them all out.
378
00:19:40,959 --> 00:19:42,333
- No, I can't throw them out.
379
00:19:42,417 --> 00:19:44,792
This was her lifeline.
380
00:19:44,875 --> 00:19:46,500
- But you...
381
00:19:46,583 --> 00:19:48,709
Being sober for 16 years,
382
00:19:48,792 --> 00:19:50,834
I'm just,
as your lifelong friend,
383
00:19:50,917 --> 00:19:52,333
scared for your well-being.
384
00:19:52,417 --> 00:19:53,792
- I'm not gonna take them.
385
00:19:53,875 --> 00:19:55,000
- [sighs]
386
00:19:55,083 --> 00:19:57,166
Let me help you,
however I can.
387
00:19:57,250 --> 00:19:58,667
It's a lot of
beautiful artwork.
388
00:19:58,750 --> 00:20:00,875
- They're incredible, right?
- Yeah.
389
00:20:00,959 --> 00:20:03,333
I mean, I always remember
being blown away.
390
00:20:03,417 --> 00:20:06,250
So there's stuff
from every series here?
391
00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:07,500
- Yeah, and I don't know--
392
00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:10,208
did you ever see the kids?
393
00:20:10,291 --> 00:20:12,667
These are some of
her earliest works.
394
00:20:12,750 --> 00:20:16,250
I believe she started them
when she was 17.
395
00:20:16,333 --> 00:20:18,542
- Oh, my God.
- Look at these kids.
396
00:20:18,625 --> 00:20:20,208
- Yeah, that's great.
397
00:20:20,291 --> 00:20:21,709
So you don't know how she--
where she went
398
00:20:21,792 --> 00:20:22,959
to take these pictures?
399
00:20:23,041 --> 00:20:24,208
- She was brave.
She would walk
400
00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:25,667
all over the city
401
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:28,208
and ask anyone
to take their photograph.
402
00:20:28,291 --> 00:20:30,917
I mean, look at the portrait
of this kid...
403
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,458
- Yeah.
404
00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:34,375
- It's almost like
405
00:20:34,458 --> 00:20:35,875
you would want to say
406
00:20:35,959 --> 00:20:38,375
he's on the verge of
losing his innocence,
407
00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:41,959
but I would say
it's already lost.
408
00:20:44,458 --> 00:20:46,875
I mean, I love this,
these two angry girls
409
00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:48,959
with that huge smiley face.
410
00:20:49,041 --> 00:20:50,375
- [laughs]
411
00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:53,000
- "E.T. dies over overdose."
412
00:20:53,083 --> 00:20:54,500
- That's... ironic.
413
00:20:54,583 --> 00:20:56,166
- I mean, look how young
they are.
414
00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:57,792
They're babies.
415
00:20:57,875 --> 00:20:59,667
- [chuckles]
416
00:20:59,750 --> 00:21:01,166
- I mean, look at those kids.
417
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,375
- Yeah.
418
00:21:03,458 --> 00:21:04,834
[chuckles]
- Right?
419
00:21:04,917 --> 00:21:06,125
- Yeah.
420
00:21:06,208 --> 00:21:09,125
[eerie music]
421
00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:10,375
♪ ♪
422
00:21:10,458 --> 00:21:12,000
- It's very Molly Ringwald.
423
00:21:12,083 --> 00:21:13,250
- Yeah.
424
00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:15,417
♪ ♪
425
00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:19,917
- She did so many
different styles.
426
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:27,000
♪ ♪
427
00:21:27,959 --> 00:21:29,834
- You walk into
that apartment,
428
00:21:29,917 --> 00:21:32,083
and it was like
a candy store of art.
429
00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:34,917
I mean, her--
not only just her photographs
430
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,959
all over the place...
431
00:21:36,041 --> 00:21:38,125
♪ ♪
432
00:21:38,208 --> 00:21:39,875
but she'd make these--
433
00:21:39,959 --> 00:21:41,458
she'd have the little drawings
434
00:21:41,542 --> 00:21:43,333
and she'd make these
little tchotchke things
435
00:21:43,417 --> 00:21:45,625
that she'd put all over
the place,
436
00:21:45,709 --> 00:21:49,166
sad and searching...
437
00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:51,500
- Very fragile.
- But also very inspiring
438
00:21:51,583 --> 00:21:53,458
and uplifting
at the same time.
439
00:21:53,542 --> 00:21:56,834
♪ ♪
440
00:21:56,917 --> 00:21:58,250
- Come here.
441
00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:07,375
- It's so impressive to me
442
00:22:07,458 --> 00:22:11,625
that Ruth was able
to feel the pain
443
00:22:11,709 --> 00:22:17,166
and continue to be creative.
444
00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:20,625
Many times, she would
fall into
445
00:22:20,709 --> 00:22:22,417
such a deep depression
446
00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:25,834
that she would feel like
suicide was the only answer,
447
00:22:25,917 --> 00:22:28,834
and then, when she woke up
in the hospital,
448
00:22:28,917 --> 00:22:32,250
she felt much better,
449
00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:34,583
and she was happy
she was alive.
450
00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:37,834
♪ ♪
451
00:22:37,917 --> 00:22:39,208
- [indistinct]
452
00:22:42,083 --> 00:22:45,500
I can tell this one's
very delicate.
453
00:22:45,583 --> 00:22:49,291
I think your sister
drew this.
454
00:22:49,375 --> 00:22:51,000
Did she draw this?
455
00:22:51,083 --> 00:22:52,250
- Mm-hmm.
456
00:22:52,333 --> 00:22:55,667
- I will be very gentle
with it.
457
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:58,250
The sides of the pages
are yellow.
458
00:22:58,333 --> 00:23:01,417
- What does that tell you?
- That it's very old.
459
00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:03,667
- You really like that book?
- Yeah.
460
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:08,583
- Thank you.
- You're welcome, sweetie.
461
00:23:10,917 --> 00:23:13,125
- [laughs]
462
00:23:25,959 --> 00:23:28,542
- You can't go through
and read all of her journals.
463
00:23:28,625 --> 00:23:29,750
- Why not?
464
00:23:29,834 --> 00:23:32,166
- 'Cause that's just crazy.
465
00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:34,583
- She left them for me
to read.
466
00:23:34,667 --> 00:23:36,625
If she didn't want
anyone to read them,
467
00:23:36,709 --> 00:23:38,417
she would have thrown them
away.
468
00:23:47,333 --> 00:23:49,417
To tell you the truth,
I was so, like,
469
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,625
blacked out
for everything,
470
00:23:51,709 --> 00:23:54,083
and she took
such precise notes
471
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:55,917
on what happened,
472
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,250
I'm finally looking
at what happened.
473
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:02,417
- And why are you wanting
to look now?
474
00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:04,625
[somber music]
475
00:24:04,709 --> 00:24:06,917
- Just want to
understand her more.
476
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:14,125
♪ ♪
477
00:24:17,667 --> 00:24:20,667
[guitar and piano music]
478
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:27,875
♪ ♪
479
00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:41,875
Do you know who made
this artwork right here?
480
00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:43,166
- No.
481
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,041
- Do you want to know?
- Yeah.
482
00:25:45,125 --> 00:25:46,333
- My sister.
483
00:25:46,417 --> 00:25:47,709
- Uh-huh.
484
00:25:47,792 --> 00:25:49,166
- Do you know her name?
485
00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:51,583
- Ruth?
- Mm-hmm.
486
00:25:54,125 --> 00:25:56,083
You know who made
that artwork right there?
487
00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:58,083
- Ruth?
488
00:25:58,166 --> 00:25:59,750
- You going to guess Ruth
for everything now?
489
00:25:59,834 --> 00:26:03,125
- Yeah.
- [laughs]
490
00:26:03,208 --> 00:26:04,667
- Who made this?
- Ruth.
491
00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:07,709
And those pictures
are of my mother.
492
00:26:07,792 --> 00:26:08,709
- And you.
493
00:26:08,792 --> 00:26:10,291
- No, not me.
494
00:26:10,375 --> 00:26:12,083
- You're over there.
495
00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:14,959
- That's my mom in the window,
when she was a little girl.
496
00:26:17,625 --> 00:26:20,542
[melancholy music]
497
00:26:20,625 --> 00:26:22,208
♪ ♪
498
00:26:22,291 --> 00:26:25,375
My mother was very afraid
of her own mother,
499
00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:28,750
our grandmother,
who we never met,
500
00:26:28,834 --> 00:26:31,250
and her name was Ruth,
501
00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:36,166
and my mother
named her first daughter Ruth,
502
00:26:36,250 --> 00:26:39,583
which is a traditional thing
to do.
503
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:43,583
Then I come along,
and she names me Hope.
504
00:26:43,667 --> 00:26:45,583
I'm named after her father,
505
00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:48,000
who she adored.
506
00:26:48,083 --> 00:26:49,458
- When Ruthie was born,
507
00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,041
she was a very demanding child,
508
00:26:51,125 --> 00:26:52,250
very difficult child.
509
00:26:52,333 --> 00:26:53,375
When you were born,
510
00:26:53,458 --> 00:26:55,542
it was the total opposite.
511
00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:57,458
Your mom had
a very hard time.
512
00:26:57,542 --> 00:26:59,792
She had a very hard time,
and
513
00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:02,417
I even recall
your mom telling me
514
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,000
about times when
she was taking her to the park,
515
00:27:06,083 --> 00:27:07,834
and if she met a friend
in the street,
516
00:27:07,917 --> 00:27:09,542
and wanted to stop and talk,
517
00:27:09,625 --> 00:27:12,834
Ruthie would start to scream
and yell in the carriage.
518
00:27:12,917 --> 00:27:14,625
Then mom would have to run.
519
00:27:14,709 --> 00:27:18,917
Two different--completely
different--children from birth.
520
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,542
From birth.
521
00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:23,208
♪ ♪
522
00:27:23,291 --> 00:27:25,458
- And I remember
being a little kid,
523
00:27:25,542 --> 00:27:28,291
not knowing anything
about mental illness,
524
00:27:28,375 --> 00:27:29,875
or knowing that Ruth
was struggling
525
00:27:29,959 --> 00:27:31,625
with any problems, and saying,
526
00:27:31,709 --> 00:27:36,291
"Why does she
keep asking me if I love her?
527
00:27:36,375 --> 00:27:38,917
I just told her yesterday."
528
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,917
She would ask me
over and over again,
529
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,834
and then she would often
530
00:27:42,917 --> 00:27:45,250
give me these tests of love.
531
00:27:45,333 --> 00:27:47,542
She would say, "If I die,
532
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,375
would you shave your head?"
533
00:27:50,458 --> 00:27:51,917
We were just kids,
534
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,959
and I would say,
"Yes, I'll shave my head."
535
00:27:55,041 --> 00:27:56,542
She would say, "If I die,
536
00:27:56,625 --> 00:27:58,000
"will you take my ashes
537
00:27:58,083 --> 00:28:00,667
"and mix them with clay
538
00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:02,125
"and make me into a pot
539
00:28:02,208 --> 00:28:04,709
and put flowers in
every day?"
540
00:28:04,792 --> 00:28:08,500
And I would say,
"Yes, I'll do that."
541
00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:11,667
That's what breaks my heart
the most.
542
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:13,166
When I see her friends,
543
00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:14,417
they say, "You know,
544
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:15,875
your sister really loved you,"
545
00:28:15,959 --> 00:28:19,000
and what I really want them
to say is
546
00:28:19,083 --> 00:28:22,291
"Your sister knew that
you really loved her."
547
00:28:22,375 --> 00:28:25,333
[mournful music]
548
00:28:25,417 --> 00:28:28,667
♪ ♪
549
00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:31,375
She wanted us to be twins,
550
00:28:31,458 --> 00:28:33,750
have a secret language,
551
00:28:33,834 --> 00:28:35,583
and at a certain age,
552
00:28:35,667 --> 00:28:38,917
that started
to feel suffocating to me,
553
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,542
and I don't think she liked it
554
00:28:40,625 --> 00:28:44,834
when I wanted to be
my own person.
555
00:28:44,917 --> 00:28:47,458
That was taken as rejection,
556
00:28:47,542 --> 00:28:50,875
when it--it really was
just normal growing up.
557
00:28:50,959 --> 00:28:54,542
♪ ♪
558
00:28:54,625 --> 00:28:57,542
[emotional piano music]
559
00:28:57,625 --> 00:29:04,750
♪ ♪
560
00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:44,583
Were you sleeping?
561
00:29:44,667 --> 00:29:46,000
- I'm not sleeping.
562
00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:49,125
- Can I have a kiss?
- Mm-hmm.
563
00:29:49,208 --> 00:29:51,834
Ugh. That was a lick!
564
00:29:51,917 --> 00:29:53,458
- [cries]
- Okay, I just wanted
565
00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:55,291
to know where you were.
I'm sorry.
566
00:29:55,375 --> 00:29:56,458
- Hi.
567
00:29:56,542 --> 00:30:00,375
- [cries]
568
00:30:00,458 --> 00:30:03,542
- She's really afraid that
569
00:30:03,625 --> 00:30:06,583
she's Ruth in the making,
570
00:30:06,667 --> 00:30:09,750
and I'm terrified.
571
00:30:09,834 --> 00:30:11,792
The doctor told me
572
00:30:11,875 --> 00:30:13,583
when my children turn two,
573
00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:15,625
that I was going to be
reminded of my sister,
574
00:30:15,709 --> 00:30:17,291
because people who have
575
00:30:17,375 --> 00:30:20,291
personality disorders
like Ruth's
576
00:30:20,375 --> 00:30:21,500
and two-year-olds
577
00:30:21,583 --> 00:30:25,125
have a lot of similarities.
578
00:30:25,208 --> 00:30:28,792
I worry about their health,
579
00:30:28,875 --> 00:30:31,333
I worry about their sanity,
580
00:30:31,417 --> 00:30:33,083
their sobriety.
581
00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:40,041
I feel like I gave them
a really bad hand of DNA.
582
00:30:40,125 --> 00:30:42,500
- Our children
don't have that problem.
583
00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:46,000
Our two-year-old is not--
have any mental issues.
584
00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:47,458
She's two,
585
00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:49,375
and I blame Ruth
586
00:30:49,458 --> 00:30:53,291
for your concern about, like,
having to worry about that.
587
00:30:53,375 --> 00:30:55,041
I'm sitting in our kitchen,
588
00:30:55,125 --> 00:30:58,208
talking about how Ruth
affects how we parent our kids.
589
00:30:58,291 --> 00:30:59,834
Like, I don't--
590
00:30:59,917 --> 00:31:02,834
- There's a genetic component.
591
00:31:02,917 --> 00:31:04,083
- Uh, I guess.
592
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:07,834
- You never worried about it?
593
00:31:07,917 --> 00:31:09,333
- [baby squeals merrily]
594
00:31:09,417 --> 00:31:10,667
- Whee!
595
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:11,917
- Smiling!
596
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,375
- It's Christmas Eve,
and I'm at my in-laws' house
597
00:31:31,458 --> 00:31:32,875
in Los Angeles.
598
00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:37,208
It's five days after
599
00:31:37,291 --> 00:31:40,375
Ruth was buried,
600
00:31:40,458 --> 00:31:41,750
six years ago.
601
00:31:41,834 --> 00:31:43,166
Um...
602
00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:46,250
To--this is always
a hard time for me,
603
00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:49,375
and my...
604
00:31:49,458 --> 00:31:51,208
2 1/2-year-old daughter--
605
00:31:51,291 --> 00:31:54,166
just out of the blue, she
606
00:31:54,250 --> 00:31:57,208
decides to pronounce that
607
00:31:57,291 --> 00:31:58,834
Mommy doesn't love her,
608
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:01,208
but Daddy loves her very much.
609
00:32:01,291 --> 00:32:02,917
I don't know
if this is something that
610
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,417
a normal two-year-old says,
611
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,375
but it actually
really hurt my feelings.
612
00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:13,500
Merry Christmas.
613
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:20,500
[whispering] So it turns out,
I'm totally the crazy one.
614
00:32:23,583 --> 00:32:26,041
The baby went down
to the party
615
00:32:26,125 --> 00:32:28,625
and she cried that
616
00:32:28,709 --> 00:32:30,583
she wanted Mommy
to put her to bed,
617
00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:32,750
and I said to her,
618
00:32:32,834 --> 00:32:36,458
"No, you like Daddy,
619
00:32:36,542 --> 00:32:40,000
not Mommy."
620
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,792
My husband got so mad at me.
621
00:32:42,875 --> 00:32:45,041
He was like,
"You're the adult."
622
00:32:50,417 --> 00:32:51,625
I couldn't help it
623
00:32:51,709 --> 00:32:53,750
that my feelings
were really hurt.
624
00:32:57,792 --> 00:33:01,500
My crazy makeup
isn't helping anything.
625
00:33:01,583 --> 00:33:04,542
I look crazy, feel crazy.
626
00:33:07,208 --> 00:33:11,792
But what kind of two-year-old
says,
627
00:33:11,875 --> 00:33:14,625
"Mommy doesn't love me.
Only Daddy loves me."
628
00:33:14,709 --> 00:33:16,792
Is that normal?
629
00:33:16,875 --> 00:33:19,792
[quiet music]
630
00:33:19,875 --> 00:33:27,041
♪ ♪
631
00:33:28,792 --> 00:33:31,208
You knew Ruth in high school,
632
00:33:31,291 --> 00:33:33,667
and now you're a therapist.
633
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:36,917
I just really want
to talk to an expert like you.
634
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,750
- The biggest fear
that a lot of parents have is
635
00:33:39,834 --> 00:33:42,375
"Am I going to inherit
636
00:33:42,458 --> 00:33:45,583
you know,
these mental illnesses?
637
00:33:45,667 --> 00:33:47,208
Is that going to happen
to my child?
638
00:33:47,291 --> 00:33:49,208
both: Like, is that going
to happen to my child?
639
00:33:49,291 --> 00:33:50,875
- Right, that's a--
- Sarah, tell me...
640
00:33:50,959 --> 00:33:53,333
- That's a big--
- Is gonna happen?
641
00:33:53,417 --> 00:33:55,166
- Well, if mental illness
exists in the family,
642
00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:56,500
there is gonna be
643
00:33:56,583 --> 00:33:58,959
a possible
genetic predisposition
644
00:33:59,041 --> 00:34:00,834
to having the mental illness
645
00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:03,542
be expressed in a child.
646
00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:04,917
Can I ask you a question?
647
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,500
Was there any diagnosis
given to her
648
00:34:06,583 --> 00:34:08,041
when she was going to therapy?
649
00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:10,583
- Very often, she was given
the diagnosis
650
00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:12,709
of bipolar disorder.
- Okay.
651
00:34:12,792 --> 00:34:16,375
- But from what I've read
and my experiences,
652
00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:18,208
she seems much more
653
00:34:18,291 --> 00:34:19,709
borderline personality
disorder.
654
00:34:19,792 --> 00:34:21,917
- Mm-hmm, mm-hm.
- For example, like,
655
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,375
that seem to be
656
00:34:23,458 --> 00:34:24,875
something missing in
657
00:34:24,959 --> 00:34:29,208
feeling love and--
and holding onto that.
658
00:34:29,291 --> 00:34:31,959
- So borderlines
659
00:34:32,041 --> 00:34:34,458
never, ever feel fulfilled.
660
00:34:34,542 --> 00:34:37,291
It's chronically empty.
661
00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:39,375
They're constantly trying to
662
00:34:39,458 --> 00:34:44,125
figure out how to be fulfilled,
and they'll never get it.
663
00:34:44,208 --> 00:34:46,333
My guess is that Ruth,
664
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,375
you know, during
the '80s and '90s,
665
00:34:48,458 --> 00:34:51,250
that there was not enough
research done
666
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:52,709
right, on borderline,
667
00:34:52,792 --> 00:34:54,000
so she probably
668
00:34:54,083 --> 00:34:55,583
received the medication
that she need
669
00:34:55,667 --> 00:34:57,208
to deal with the symptoms,
670
00:34:57,291 --> 00:35:00,375
but then, there was no other
treatment that happened.
671
00:35:00,458 --> 00:35:02,709
Since it's not just about
672
00:35:02,792 --> 00:35:06,583
doing the medical treatment
to cure the symptoms.
673
00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:09,250
It's also about doing
the further investigation
674
00:35:09,333 --> 00:35:12,458
of the evolution of the family
675
00:35:12,542 --> 00:35:13,750
as a unit.
676
00:35:13,834 --> 00:35:16,208
- Right.
677
00:35:19,166 --> 00:35:20,959
Do you know the story
behind these albums?
678
00:35:21,041 --> 00:35:22,583
- No.
- Ruth decided
679
00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:24,583
she wanted to make
these photo albums.
680
00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:28,291
My parents weren't necessarily
interested in having her do it,
681
00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:30,250
but she made them pay her
682
00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:32,834
to make them.
- [laughs]
683
00:35:32,917 --> 00:35:35,291
Yikes.
[laughter]
684
00:35:35,375 --> 00:35:38,041
- That Ruth goes from
- Yeah. That.
685
00:35:38,125 --> 00:35:41,458
- My grandmother.
Literally my grandmother,
686
00:35:41,542 --> 00:35:43,250
and then you turn the page,
687
00:35:43,333 --> 00:35:46,583
and it's like, "Oh, whatever.
Nude picture of my boyfriend."
688
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,125
- And these are the albums
she made for your parents.
689
00:35:48,208 --> 00:35:51,458
- Yes, that they had to
pay for.
690
00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:53,417
- Ooh, Rolex shot.
691
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:55,625
- It looks like my mom
is loving him,
692
00:35:55,709 --> 00:35:57,291
but she's really loving...
- She's not.
693
00:35:57,375 --> 00:35:58,542
- The Rolex.
- She's waiting for the watch.
694
00:35:58,625 --> 00:35:59,792
She got it going on.
695
00:35:59,875 --> 00:36:01,959
She knows what time it is.
696
00:36:02,041 --> 00:36:05,250
She really, you know,
picked herself up, and...
697
00:36:05,333 --> 00:36:07,125
your mother had a horrible
childhood.
698
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,792
- I know.
699
00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:13,792
My mom came from
a very poor family,
700
00:36:13,875 --> 00:36:15,500
and I think that
very early on,
701
00:36:15,583 --> 00:36:18,041
she realized that
the way she looked
702
00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:20,208
gave her some power.
703
00:36:20,291 --> 00:36:22,917
With this power,
she was gonna get out of
704
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,667
her bad situation in Brooklyn
705
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,041
and looks became
very important to her.
706
00:36:28,125 --> 00:36:29,709
[somber piano music]
707
00:36:29,792 --> 00:36:31,542
My mom was always on a diet.
708
00:36:31,625 --> 00:36:35,667
She was a lifetime member
of Weight Watchers.
709
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:38,667
If she gave us each
a piece of cake,
710
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:41,000
Ruth and I used to say,
711
00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:42,834
"You gave her
the smaller piece.
712
00:36:42,917 --> 00:36:44,250
You love her more."
713
00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:46,333
♪ ♪
714
00:36:46,417 --> 00:36:50,417
My mother's beauty
really did work in her favor.
715
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,291
She was a model
in the garment district,
716
00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:56,125
and she married my father
717
00:36:56,208 --> 00:36:59,208
and helped him build
his business
718
00:36:59,291 --> 00:37:02,375
until she had
the Manhattan lifestyle
719
00:37:02,458 --> 00:37:03,875
that she really wanted,
720
00:37:03,959 --> 00:37:06,250
and then could give her
children
721
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:08,041
the things that
she always wanted
722
00:37:08,125 --> 00:37:09,875
to have herself.
723
00:37:09,959 --> 00:37:13,250
And some of them
were a little superficial.
724
00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:16,875
Like, she always wanted to have
blonde hair and blue eyes,
725
00:37:16,959 --> 00:37:19,333
and then...
726
00:37:19,417 --> 00:37:20,959
Well, like, in this picture,
for example,
727
00:37:21,041 --> 00:37:23,375
this is totally... twisted.
728
00:37:23,458 --> 00:37:25,959
She dyed my sister's hair
blond when she was five.
729
00:37:26,041 --> 00:37:28,208
- Oh, my God.
730
00:37:28,291 --> 00:37:30,750
And there begins the problems.
731
00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:40,000
♪ ♪
732
00:39:09,625 --> 00:39:13,834
- It looks like
she liked this one a lot.
733
00:39:13,917 --> 00:39:15,875
It's nice and mushy.
734
00:39:18,041 --> 00:39:21,709
An adult with stuffed animals
was very her.
735
00:39:33,542 --> 00:39:35,083
[crying] I don't know,
it's like--
736
00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:37,417
this is stuff--for babies.
737
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,625
[sniffs] It's just...
738
00:39:46,333 --> 00:39:48,333
It's like, all this stuff--
like, she was just
739
00:39:48,417 --> 00:39:51,291
trying to be happy, like a kid.
740
00:39:54,834 --> 00:39:57,375
I mean, look at this
Hello Kitty pencil case.
741
00:39:57,458 --> 00:39:58,667
Come on.
742
00:40:01,125 --> 00:40:03,083
She wrote her name
on the inside,
743
00:40:03,166 --> 00:40:06,208
like a five-year-old.
744
00:40:06,291 --> 00:40:09,458
[breathing raggedly]
745
00:40:12,458 --> 00:40:16,500
I'm at a friend's house.
746
00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:19,083
[melancholy music]
747
00:40:19,166 --> 00:40:21,917
I don't know if everyone
does this,
748
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,250
or just drug addicts,
749
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:25,125
but I found this.
750
00:40:25,208 --> 00:40:27,333
♪ ♪
751
00:40:27,417 --> 00:40:29,250
This is...
752
00:40:29,333 --> 00:40:31,041
really making me want to
753
00:40:31,125 --> 00:40:35,000
throw away 17 years
of sobriety.
754
00:40:35,083 --> 00:40:42,166
♪ ♪
755
00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:47,041
Around 14,
756
00:40:47,125 --> 00:40:50,208
my girlfriends and I
snuck our first drink,
757
00:40:50,291 --> 00:40:53,750
and I had
this amazing feeling of
758
00:40:53,834 --> 00:40:56,166
"I don't know what's wrong
with me,
759
00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:59,583
but this is the cure."
760
00:40:59,667 --> 00:41:01,959
I was a blackout drinker...
761
00:41:02,041 --> 00:41:03,959
♪ ♪
762
00:41:04,041 --> 00:41:07,000
and I have blackout memories.
763
00:41:07,083 --> 00:41:08,542
I don't remember
all the times
764
00:41:08,625 --> 00:41:10,375
she tried to commit suicide.
765
00:41:10,458 --> 00:41:14,709
I--I have memories of when
the police would arrive,
766
00:41:14,792 --> 00:41:18,458
but I don't remember
the order.
767
00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:23,667
♪ ♪
768
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,250
My dad was a heavy drinker.
769
00:41:26,333 --> 00:41:28,041
I drank with him.
770
00:41:28,125 --> 00:41:29,542
That was the only thing
I had in common
771
00:41:29,625 --> 00:41:31,208
with my father.
772
00:41:31,291 --> 00:41:33,333
♪ ♪
773
00:41:33,417 --> 00:41:37,792
That was not seen
as unusual in my house.
774
00:41:37,875 --> 00:41:39,792
♪ ♪
775
00:41:39,875 --> 00:41:43,834
And he also introduced me
to Percocet,
776
00:41:43,917 --> 00:41:45,333
and he would say to me,
777
00:41:45,417 --> 00:41:47,500
"Want half a Percy, Hopie?"
778
00:41:47,583 --> 00:41:49,333
He would give me
half a Percocet
779
00:41:49,417 --> 00:41:51,959
and we would drink.
780
00:41:52,041 --> 00:41:53,500
So many times,
781
00:41:53,583 --> 00:41:55,667
Ruth would be in the hospital,
782
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:57,000
and he would say to me,
783
00:41:57,083 --> 00:41:59,000
"Just be happy. Have a drink,"
784
00:41:59,083 --> 00:42:02,917
and my mom would look at me
pleadingly
785
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,583
and say, "You're happy,
right?"
786
00:42:05,667 --> 00:42:08,041
and I knew the only answer was
787
00:42:08,125 --> 00:42:10,250
"Yes, Mommy, I'm happy."
788
00:42:10,333 --> 00:42:11,959
♪ ♪
789
00:42:12,041 --> 00:42:14,500
- You always did
pretend to be happy,
790
00:42:14,583 --> 00:42:16,291
and I know why:
791
00:42:16,375 --> 00:42:19,166
because your mother
had a full plate.
792
00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:22,333
Ruthie took so much of
her energy and love.
793
00:42:22,417 --> 00:42:24,542
♪ ♪
794
00:42:24,625 --> 00:42:27,041
There were so many times that
795
00:42:27,125 --> 00:42:28,709
your mom rescued her.
796
00:42:28,792 --> 00:42:30,583
♪ ♪
797
00:42:30,667 --> 00:42:32,458
I know there was one
on a ledge.
798
00:42:32,542 --> 00:42:34,542
Wasn't there one
that she got on a ledge?
799
00:42:34,625 --> 00:42:41,750
♪ ♪
800
00:42:44,083 --> 00:42:46,417
Your mom had no life
801
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:48,625
and apparently,
Ruthie couldn't live in
802
00:42:48,709 --> 00:42:50,709
the one we had, she had,
803
00:42:50,792 --> 00:42:53,709
and I felt sad,
804
00:42:53,792 --> 00:42:56,625
and I'm gonna cry.
805
00:42:56,709 --> 00:42:59,667
But, she recovered
806
00:42:59,750 --> 00:43:03,000
to make further attempts,
807
00:43:03,083 --> 00:43:05,792
and, um...
808
00:43:05,875 --> 00:43:09,250
I mean, she just couldn't find
her way in this world.
809
00:43:09,333 --> 00:43:16,458
♪ ♪
810
00:43:25,125 --> 00:43:27,750
- Hi, I was hoping I could
speak with Detective Cozzi.
811
00:43:27,834 --> 00:43:29,208
- You can sit out--
You can sit out and wait.
812
00:43:29,291 --> 00:43:30,458
He'll probably come back.
813
00:43:30,542 --> 00:43:32,250
That's about it.
- Thank you.
814
00:43:32,333 --> 00:43:34,583
The woman in the records room
815
00:43:34,667 --> 00:43:38,375
who found--who actually
did find the record
816
00:43:38,458 --> 00:43:40,750
basically told me that
817
00:43:40,834 --> 00:43:43,583
there was nothing else
I needed to know
818
00:43:43,667 --> 00:43:48,458
and when I expressed
that I needed closure,
819
00:43:48,542 --> 00:43:51,000
she recommended that I
820
00:43:51,083 --> 00:43:53,417
seek out
the Jehovah's Witnesses
821
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:55,959
at jw.org,
822
00:43:56,041 --> 00:44:00,291
and I was told to come back
at 12:00.
823
00:44:00,375 --> 00:44:02,667
- Ruth Litoff?
- Yes, that's my sister.
824
00:44:10,625 --> 00:44:13,375
- You're the one that--
- I requested the report.
825
00:44:13,458 --> 00:44:14,834
- Is that correct--the name?
826
00:44:14,917 --> 00:44:16,583
- Yes.
- Okay, so here it is.
827
00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:18,166
- It's right here?
- Yeah, it's the whole package.
828
00:44:18,250 --> 00:44:19,583
- Thank you so much.
- You're welcome.
829
00:44:19,667 --> 00:44:22,709
- I really appreciate it.
830
00:44:32,625 --> 00:44:35,709
What the detective told me
was really painful.
831
00:44:35,792 --> 00:44:37,959
He said that
my sister died in pain,
832
00:44:38,041 --> 00:44:42,166
and I shouldn't look in
the pictures.
833
00:44:42,250 --> 00:44:44,166
I don't know--
834
00:44:44,250 --> 00:44:45,875
I don't really know
how to deal with
835
00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:47,583
my feelings about this.
836
00:44:47,667 --> 00:44:49,709
It's very upsetting.
837
00:44:59,917 --> 00:45:03,125
Thinking about drinking.
838
00:45:03,208 --> 00:45:07,166
I mean, what's the big deal?
839
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:09,709
I got out of it before.
840
00:45:19,959 --> 00:45:22,208
I just ordered
a double vodka on the rocks,
841
00:45:22,291 --> 00:45:24,208
with two olives.
842
00:45:24,291 --> 00:45:25,458
Thank you.
843
00:45:25,542 --> 00:45:27,083
- You're welcome.
844
00:45:29,834 --> 00:45:32,834
[upbeat music playing]
845
00:45:32,917 --> 00:45:39,959
♪ ♪
846
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,333
Thank you.
847
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,625
First drink in 16 years.
848
00:46:46,709 --> 00:46:48,667
- Good or bad?
849
00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:49,875
- [whispers] Bad.
850
00:46:51,875 --> 00:46:55,041
[bartender pouring drinks]
851
00:47:08,542 --> 00:47:10,375
- What's that?
852
00:47:10,458 --> 00:47:14,792
- This is like her own version
of a Joseph Cornell box,
853
00:47:14,875 --> 00:47:17,750
with little different
strange treasures
854
00:47:17,834 --> 00:47:19,667
that mean something to her.
855
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:20,792
- Through Ruth's eye.
- What's this one?
856
00:47:20,875 --> 00:47:22,792
- I don't know.
857
00:47:22,875 --> 00:47:26,208
- Ooh, a Valium.
858
00:47:26,291 --> 00:47:29,917
[laughing] I wonder if
it still works.
859
00:47:32,125 --> 00:47:35,709
Look at this tiny baby.
860
00:47:35,792 --> 00:47:38,709
- What's this?
- Ugh, an impaled baby.
861
00:47:38,792 --> 00:47:40,792
[mournful music]
862
00:47:40,875 --> 00:47:42,500
I know she was very upset
863
00:47:42,583 --> 00:47:45,333
about having had two abortions.
864
00:47:45,417 --> 00:47:49,834
♪ ♪
865
00:47:49,917 --> 00:47:54,083
At around age 14,
Ruth was having sex.
866
00:47:54,166 --> 00:47:57,291
She would just take
her boyfriend into her bedroom
867
00:47:57,375 --> 00:47:59,417
and lock the door.
868
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:00,959
♪ ♪
869
00:48:01,041 --> 00:48:03,750
I wish my parents
had stopped her,
870
00:48:03,834 --> 00:48:05,375
but they didn't...
871
00:48:05,458 --> 00:48:08,125
♪ ♪
872
00:48:08,208 --> 00:48:10,792
and eventually,
she did get pregnant,
873
00:48:10,875 --> 00:48:13,542
and she chose to have
an abortion.
874
00:48:13,625 --> 00:48:18,375
♪ ♪
875
00:48:18,458 --> 00:48:20,333
Ruth's best friend's mother
876
00:48:20,417 --> 00:48:22,417
was a producer on "20/20,"
877
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,750
and asked her to be
on the show.
878
00:48:24,834 --> 00:48:26,542
♪ ♪
879
00:48:26,625 --> 00:48:28,333
- We start with a girl.
880
00:48:28,417 --> 00:48:29,875
She lives in New York City,
881
00:48:29,959 --> 00:48:31,250
where she's
a high school senior
882
00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:33,458
and a talented photographer.
883
00:48:33,542 --> 00:48:35,709
- When I was pregnant,
I really felt like
884
00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:38,542
I had a responsibility
to my baby,
885
00:48:38,625 --> 00:48:42,041
even though it was just--
it was just a fetus.
886
00:48:42,125 --> 00:48:44,875
It wasn't really anything.
887
00:48:44,959 --> 00:48:47,709
I always--you know,
I watched what I ate
888
00:48:47,792 --> 00:48:49,750
and I just kind of
took care of it,
889
00:48:49,834 --> 00:48:53,750
even though I knew that
it was gonna go away.
890
00:48:53,834 --> 00:48:56,625
- Of course, she wasn't ready
to have a baby--
891
00:48:56,709 --> 00:48:59,083
she was just in high school--
892
00:48:59,166 --> 00:49:01,917
but she never forgot about it,
either.
893
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,000
♪ ♪
894
00:49:05,083 --> 00:49:07,291
- And I remember
when she had her abortion.
895
00:49:07,375 --> 00:49:10,417
Did she continue thinking
about, like,
896
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,417
"Oh, if I had had that child"?
897
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,250
- She just sort of
acknowledged that
898
00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:18,208
her depression
was going to prevent her
899
00:49:18,291 --> 00:49:20,291
from being able
to have children.
900
00:49:20,375 --> 00:49:22,375
I realized
from looking at her journals
901
00:49:22,458 --> 00:49:25,458
that that is
a huge disappointment for her,
902
00:49:25,542 --> 00:49:26,542
which I never knew.
903
00:49:26,625 --> 00:49:29,208
- Hm.
904
00:49:29,291 --> 00:49:31,917
- She would sometimes
represent herself
905
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,208
as damaged goods
906
00:49:34,291 --> 00:49:37,333
and then--
it might say something like
907
00:49:37,417 --> 00:49:38,959
"forever fixed,"
908
00:49:39,041 --> 00:49:41,125
and it'd be an image of her
holding a baby.
909
00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:43,250
♪ ♪
910
00:49:43,333 --> 00:49:47,083
Babies, to her,
were a symbol
911
00:49:47,166 --> 00:49:50,291
of good health
912
00:49:50,375 --> 00:49:51,875
and happiness, I think.
913
00:49:51,959 --> 00:49:56,750
♪ ♪
914
00:49:56,834 --> 00:49:59,250
When my son, Charlie,
was born,
915
00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:02,208
she only had a chance
to meet him once.
916
00:50:02,291 --> 00:50:05,291
♪ ♪
917
00:50:05,375 --> 00:50:08,000
And if she wasn't
mentally ill,
918
00:50:08,083 --> 00:50:10,166
she would've been
an amazing aunt.
919
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:16,875
♪ ♪
920
00:50:41,542 --> 00:50:44,083
- She confided in me
that she felt
921
00:50:44,166 --> 00:50:46,792
very lost and alone.
922
00:50:46,875 --> 00:50:49,500
♪ ♪
923
00:50:49,583 --> 00:50:53,208
- My parents' failure
924
00:50:53,291 --> 00:50:56,500
in being able
to help fix her,
925
00:50:56,583 --> 00:50:59,000
or heal her,
I just think,
926
00:50:59,083 --> 00:51:02,208
was too frustrating.
927
00:51:02,291 --> 00:51:03,583
- Mm-hmm.
928
00:51:03,667 --> 00:51:05,959
- For her to even,
sometimes, be around them,
929
00:51:06,041 --> 00:51:08,917
I'm guessing.
930
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,709
- I know your mom
loved her enormously,
931
00:51:11,792 --> 00:51:15,375
but your dad, he--
he was pulling her down,
932
00:51:15,458 --> 00:51:18,709
it seems like, always,
and, um,
933
00:51:18,792 --> 00:51:22,208
he--I mean, at one point,
she told me
934
00:51:22,291 --> 00:51:24,250
she took a lot of pills
935
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:26,458
and she ended up
going to Bellevue,
936
00:51:26,542 --> 00:51:29,166
and she told me
that your father said,
937
00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:30,917
"Next time, jump."
938
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,917
[somber music]
939
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:41,125
♪ ♪
940
00:52:06,375 --> 00:52:09,500
It was hard.
God, it was hard being Ruth.
941
00:52:09,583 --> 00:52:12,125
So yeah, there were
the emergency calls,
942
00:52:12,208 --> 00:52:15,125
emergency dates.
943
00:52:15,208 --> 00:52:17,625
Yeah, it was like being
a social worker.
944
00:52:17,709 --> 00:52:21,166
It was a friend-social worker
relationship.
945
00:52:21,250 --> 00:52:25,417
It had its rewards
and its perks, but it was--
946
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:28,458
it was hard to be Ruth,
it was hard to be near her,
947
00:52:28,542 --> 00:52:31,792
and, um...
948
00:52:31,875 --> 00:52:34,375
and it was also beautiful
at times.
949
00:52:34,458 --> 00:52:37,750
- Her great times
were pretty great.
950
00:52:37,834 --> 00:52:40,750
Now, it wasn't like
she was just depressed
951
00:52:40,834 --> 00:52:42,458
and alone with her cat.
952
00:52:42,542 --> 00:52:45,792
Like, she had a lot of really
sparkling moments as well.
953
00:52:45,875 --> 00:52:47,291
- It was everything.
It was the whole--
954
00:52:47,375 --> 00:52:49,500
you got the whole spectrum
with Ruth.
955
00:52:49,583 --> 00:52:51,834
It's like a full
Shakespeare tragedy.
956
00:52:51,917 --> 00:52:56,083
♪ ♪
957
00:52:56,166 --> 00:52:58,750
It was really fun in, like,
the '80s and the '90s,
958
00:52:58,834 --> 00:53:01,125
I'd get a call from Ruth,
and she'd be like,
959
00:53:01,208 --> 00:53:02,834
"It's time to do
a photo shoot.
960
00:53:02,917 --> 00:53:04,500
We haven't done
a photo shoot in a while,"
961
00:53:04,583 --> 00:53:06,291
and I was like,
"Yeah, that's right!"
962
00:53:06,375 --> 00:53:08,917
I mean, okay, so it was like,
teens, 20s.
963
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,792
Like, we both
had great bodies,
964
00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:13,375
um, and it was just, like,
time to celebrate them
965
00:53:13,458 --> 00:53:14,917
and, like take off
your clothes
966
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,041
and put on trench coats
and heels
967
00:53:17,125 --> 00:53:20,000
and go on the roof
and take pictures,
968
00:53:20,083 --> 00:53:22,500
and we had so much fun.
969
00:53:22,583 --> 00:53:23,834
♪ ♪
970
00:53:23,917 --> 00:53:26,709
And she was so open and free,
971
00:53:26,792 --> 00:53:29,875
and she made her subjects
972
00:53:29,959 --> 00:53:31,166
feel that way too.
973
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,041
She was--she appreciated
beauty,
974
00:53:33,125 --> 00:53:35,667
and she was so sexy herself,
975
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:37,458
and she appreciated it.
She brought that out.
976
00:53:37,542 --> 00:53:39,875
She brought out sensuality
and sexuality
977
00:53:39,959 --> 00:53:42,083
in all of her subjects.
978
00:53:42,166 --> 00:53:45,083
[warm music]
979
00:53:45,166 --> 00:53:47,041
♪ ♪
980
00:53:47,125 --> 00:53:49,166
She would seduce everyone
981
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:50,792
into taking great pictures.
982
00:53:50,875 --> 00:53:52,583
- Every boyfriend
I've seen naked.
983
00:53:52,667 --> 00:53:54,875
- Yeah.
[laughs]
984
00:53:54,959 --> 00:53:56,750
- One has a better body
than the next.
985
00:53:56,834 --> 00:53:59,041
- Exactly, exactly.
986
00:53:59,125 --> 00:54:01,542
♪ ♪
987
00:54:01,625 --> 00:54:04,542
Ruth was very exciting,
and she gave--
988
00:54:04,625 --> 00:54:06,875
in terms of artwork,
of course--
989
00:54:06,959 --> 00:54:09,208
and she gave with humor,
990
00:54:09,291 --> 00:54:12,625
and she gave with love,
991
00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:16,125
and she also took
992
00:54:16,208 --> 00:54:17,834
enormous amounts of energy,
993
00:54:17,917 --> 00:54:20,792
and it would take time
to recover after.
994
00:54:20,875 --> 00:54:23,458
[tranquil music]
995
00:54:23,542 --> 00:54:26,208
- Ruth was very sensual--
sexual person,
996
00:54:26,291 --> 00:54:29,250
but she always had
an insecurity.
997
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:31,625
It was a bottomless well.
998
00:54:31,709 --> 00:54:34,417
♪ ♪
999
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:41,166
We met in the summer of 1991
in Quogue in a share house.
1000
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:43,792
Immediately, all the
single guys in the house
1001
00:54:43,875 --> 00:54:45,917
were like, you know,
just drawn to this--
1002
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,875
this person.
She's beautiful and--
1003
00:54:47,959 --> 00:54:51,417
you know, and I figured
that I didn't have a shot.
1004
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:57,834
♪ ♪
1005
00:54:57,917 --> 00:55:01,500
And once she started
shooting me,
1006
00:55:01,583 --> 00:55:03,125
she really helped me
1007
00:55:03,208 --> 00:55:04,834
to see myself
in a different light.
1008
00:55:04,917 --> 00:55:07,375
♪ ♪
1009
00:55:07,458 --> 00:55:09,625
You know, the effect
that she had on you,
1010
00:55:09,709 --> 00:55:12,333
it was brighter than the sun.
1011
00:55:12,417 --> 00:55:14,709
You couldn't help
be drawn to that person.
1012
00:55:14,792 --> 00:55:19,041
♪ ♪
1013
00:55:19,125 --> 00:55:21,625
- "I wanted Alan."
1014
00:55:21,709 --> 00:55:23,375
- [laughs]
1015
00:55:23,458 --> 00:55:25,750
You know, maybe part of me
thought that I could heal her
1016
00:55:25,834 --> 00:55:28,792
and that I could
take that pain away from her.
1017
00:55:28,875 --> 00:55:31,208
- Me too.
1018
00:55:31,291 --> 00:55:32,875
- But I couldn't.
I--you know,
1019
00:55:32,959 --> 00:55:35,291
I--I couldn't,
despite how hard I tried.
1020
00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:37,250
♪ ♪
1021
00:55:37,333 --> 00:55:39,792
- She would pull people
in close
1022
00:55:39,875 --> 00:55:43,000
and then act
in such a horrible way
1023
00:55:43,083 --> 00:55:44,959
that the person had to leave,
1024
00:55:45,041 --> 00:55:48,000
and then she would say, "Why--
why did you leave me?"
1025
00:55:48,083 --> 00:55:55,208
♪ ♪
1026
00:56:04,291 --> 00:56:06,583
- She clearly must have
thought she was beautiful,
1027
00:56:06,667 --> 00:56:09,125
or was that just her trying to
convince herself that she was?
1028
00:56:09,208 --> 00:56:12,208
All the nude pictures
of herself and bikini shots?
1029
00:56:12,291 --> 00:56:13,834
- I think--
- I mean, is that a sign
1030
00:56:13,917 --> 00:56:15,625
of insecurity?
What is that about?
1031
00:56:15,709 --> 00:56:18,083
- I think that was
a sign of insecurity.
1032
00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:21,208
[sorrowful piano music]
1033
00:56:21,291 --> 00:56:26,542
♪ ♪
1034
00:56:26,625 --> 00:56:30,041
- I think the self-portrait
is very...
1035
00:56:30,125 --> 00:56:31,917
complicated for her.
1036
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,792
♪ ♪
1037
00:56:34,875 --> 00:56:38,834
Self-searching, but also
wanting to look good,
1038
00:56:38,917 --> 00:56:42,458
and wanting to see what
other people would see.
1039
00:56:42,542 --> 00:56:47,041
♪ ♪
1040
00:56:47,125 --> 00:56:49,166
I can't tell you
the amount of times
1041
00:56:49,250 --> 00:56:52,291
I told her how beautiful
she was.
1042
00:56:52,375 --> 00:56:57,917
♪ ♪
1043
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,333
Maybe she could see
who she was in a photograph
1044
00:57:01,417 --> 00:57:03,417
in a way that she couldn't see
1045
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:07,333
just by feeling
who she was.
1046
00:57:07,417 --> 00:57:11,375
♪ ♪
1047
00:57:13,917 --> 00:57:16,417
So this is what
I want your help with.
1048
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,709
I'm gonna try and bust
into Ruth's computer.
1049
00:57:19,792 --> 00:57:21,083
- Wow.
1050
00:57:21,166 --> 00:57:24,083
So what are you looking for
on the computer?
1051
00:57:24,166 --> 00:57:27,917
- I don't really know
when she wrote her last email.
1052
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,083
[computer chimes]
1053
00:57:30,166 --> 00:57:31,250
Did you just turn it on?
1054
00:57:31,333 --> 00:57:33,625
- No, I didn't touch anything.
1055
00:57:33,709 --> 00:57:35,000
- Maybe Ruth turned it on.
1056
00:57:35,083 --> 00:57:36,166
- Yeah.
1057
00:57:37,959 --> 00:57:40,750
Amazing that it's just--
starts up and it's fine.
1058
00:57:40,834 --> 00:57:44,458
- I need something
to make a mouse pad.
1059
00:57:44,542 --> 00:57:45,917
[clicks mouse]
1060
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:47,750
Is that too small to read?
1061
00:57:47,834 --> 00:57:49,417
- Um, no, it says--
1062
00:57:49,500 --> 00:57:52,291
- This one says
"Bellevue Photos."
1063
00:57:52,375 --> 00:57:55,125
- Wow, how many times
has she gone to Bellevue?
1064
00:57:55,208 --> 00:57:57,458
- A lot.
- She would commit herself?
1065
00:57:57,542 --> 00:58:02,458
- My memory is it was always
after a suicide attempt.
1066
00:58:02,542 --> 00:58:03,875
- Oh, look.
- What does it say?
1067
00:58:03,959 --> 00:58:05,333
I don't have my glasses on.
1068
00:58:05,417 --> 00:58:06,959
- It says, "Hi, Ruth.
1069
00:58:07,041 --> 00:58:10,083
"In reading your email
from March 3rd, 2008,
1070
00:58:10,166 --> 00:58:14,250
it sounds as though you have
secured the light boxes."
1071
00:58:14,333 --> 00:58:16,125
[gasps]
1072
00:58:16,208 --> 00:58:20,917
- These are, like,
architect's blueprints.
1073
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,792
I like that
she dreamed big.
1074
00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:26,041
- "Bellevue Hospital Center
will accommodate your request
1075
00:58:26,125 --> 00:58:29,667
to have your opening reception
at the site in spring 2008."
1076
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:31,333
She was really
pretty far along.
1077
00:58:31,417 --> 00:58:33,583
- I mean, she died
right after that.
1078
00:58:35,792 --> 00:58:38,083
- That's kind of sad.
- Yeah.
1079
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:43,583
I don't know what
my responsibility is,
1080
00:58:43,667 --> 00:58:45,458
as the only person
that's left living.
1081
00:58:45,542 --> 00:58:47,250
- I know, but--
- I mean, these are, like,
1082
00:58:47,333 --> 00:58:48,792
records of her life.
1083
00:58:48,875 --> 00:58:50,959
What am I supposed to do
with them?
1084
00:58:51,041 --> 00:58:52,166
- Yeah.
- Right.
1085
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:53,583
- [grunts]
1086
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,875
- I've still been drinking.
1087
00:58:59,959 --> 00:59:01,834
Nobody knows about it,
1088
00:59:01,917 --> 00:59:05,333
but I think it's fine.
1089
00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:08,750
I just need it right now,
and then
1090
00:59:08,834 --> 00:59:11,792
when I don't need it,
I'll just stop.
1091
00:59:21,208 --> 00:59:24,000
- Hope, what are you doing?
1092
00:59:24,083 --> 00:59:25,583
- I'm looking through
the bottles
1093
00:59:25,667 --> 00:59:28,792
to see which ones have
pills left in them
1094
00:59:28,875 --> 00:59:31,917
and if any of them
interest me.
1095
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,834
- Okay, what do you mean
by that?
1096
00:59:33,917 --> 00:59:38,041
- What I mean is maybe
1097
00:59:38,125 --> 00:59:42,709
I can experience what my sister
experienced.
1098
00:59:42,792 --> 00:59:44,458
You know what?
That's bullshit.
1099
00:59:44,542 --> 00:59:46,333
Maybe I can get high
1100
00:59:46,417 --> 00:59:48,750
off of the pills
that she left behind.
1101
00:59:48,834 --> 00:59:54,083
- You know this puts us in
a really complicit situation?
1102
00:59:54,166 --> 00:59:55,583
- Two.
- Two?
1103
00:59:55,667 --> 00:59:59,917
- Yeah.
One is good, two is better.
1104
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,166
Ooh, it's stale.
1105
01:00:05,208 --> 01:00:06,875
I've never taken it before.
1106
01:00:06,959 --> 01:00:08,041
It's a form of Adderall.
1107
01:00:08,125 --> 01:00:11,792
I've never taken it before.
1108
01:00:11,875 --> 01:00:14,667
And there's something about
1109
01:00:14,750 --> 01:00:19,000
the fact that they're
Ruth's pills
1110
01:00:19,083 --> 01:00:23,667
that make them feel
more special to me.
1111
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:26,667
- I don't want to be
enabling your addiction.
1112
01:00:26,750 --> 01:00:29,625
- Tough shit.
1113
01:00:29,709 --> 01:00:31,667
Seriously.
1114
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:37,417
Oh, I just wanna
feel what she feels, and...
1115
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:39,834
I just wanna be inside her.
1116
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,875
I think I should see
if George can meet me.
1117
01:00:57,166 --> 01:00:58,959
Don't worry about me.
1118
01:00:59,041 --> 01:01:01,125
- I do worry about you.
1119
01:01:01,208 --> 01:01:02,875
[sirens wailing]
1120
01:01:02,959 --> 01:01:05,834
Okay, so are you sober now?
1121
01:01:05,917 --> 01:01:09,083
- I'm not sober right now, no.
1122
01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:11,500
- We had a pact
about being sober.
1123
01:01:11,583 --> 01:01:13,625
It's difficult,
being in that pact
1124
01:01:13,709 --> 01:01:16,875
and having one person
check out of the pact,
1125
01:01:16,959 --> 01:01:20,083
and I need you to know that
1126
01:01:20,166 --> 01:01:22,959
you have responsibilities
to people who are living
1127
01:01:23,041 --> 01:01:25,792
right now.
1128
01:01:25,875 --> 01:01:27,959
I mean, it's like
your mom died,
1129
01:01:28,041 --> 01:01:29,792
your dad died,
Ruth killed herself.
1130
01:01:29,875 --> 01:01:31,500
And this is what's--
- I lived through it.
1131
01:01:31,583 --> 01:01:33,333
- Yeah, and you were sober
through all of it,
1132
01:01:33,417 --> 01:01:34,709
so I don't--
I don't really understand
1133
01:01:34,792 --> 01:01:36,208
what's going on.
- Okay, well,
1134
01:01:36,291 --> 01:01:38,375
I'll explain it to you.
The difference is,
1135
01:01:38,458 --> 01:01:42,000
I became a robot
as each person died.
1136
01:01:42,083 --> 01:01:44,667
I took my feelings
and I squashed them down
1137
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:46,834
and I took my feelings
and I squashed them down.
1138
01:01:46,917 --> 01:01:49,291
I just was like,
"Keep going, keep going,
1139
01:01:49,375 --> 01:01:52,000
keep going," and now,
all the emotions
1140
01:01:52,083 --> 01:01:54,917
that I refused to feel
while I was sober
1141
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,583
and Ruth was ill
1142
01:01:56,667 --> 01:01:59,208
and all the feelings
that I refused to feel
1143
01:01:59,291 --> 01:02:00,709
after she killed herself--
1144
01:02:00,792 --> 01:02:03,875
I'm feeling them.
1145
01:02:03,959 --> 01:02:06,834
- This is crazy.
She's dead.
1146
01:02:14,291 --> 01:02:17,166
- We're gonna start in 1996.
1147
01:02:17,250 --> 01:02:18,709
What do you think of that i--
what does that say?
1148
01:02:18,792 --> 01:02:20,375
- Not very much indeed.
1149
01:02:20,458 --> 01:02:22,875
I mean, it'd be nice if
you could balance some of this
1150
01:02:22,959 --> 01:02:24,709
with spending time
with your kids.
1151
01:02:24,792 --> 01:02:26,291
- I know, but this is
gonna help me
1152
01:02:26,375 --> 01:02:28,000
be a better mom to them.
1153
01:02:28,083 --> 01:02:29,000
- Eventually?
1154
01:02:29,083 --> 01:02:32,917
- I guess not right now.
1155
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,458
Okay, put it up, put it up.
1156
01:02:34,542 --> 01:02:36,083
I just wanna see
if it's lined up.
1157
01:02:36,166 --> 01:02:39,500
Why didn't you go
all the way up to the ceiling?
1158
01:02:39,583 --> 01:02:42,792
This way, a pattern
might be revealed.
1159
01:02:42,875 --> 01:02:44,500
- I just--I just--
1160
01:02:44,583 --> 01:02:48,041
I think that this is--
I don't really understand it.
1161
01:02:48,125 --> 01:02:49,959
I don't understand what pattern
you think you're gonna see.
1162
01:02:50,041 --> 01:02:52,250
You're looking at datebooks
that are ten years old
1163
01:02:52,333 --> 01:02:54,417
from a dead person.
1164
01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:56,709
- Not that one. Use this one.
- Huh?
1165
01:02:56,792 --> 01:02:59,458
She did her dry cleaning
on Tuesday, the 2nd.
1166
01:02:59,542 --> 01:03:02,709
- See?
Now you're wondering too.
1167
01:03:02,792 --> 01:03:04,000
- [laughs]
1168
01:03:04,083 --> 01:03:06,750
- And here comes
a suicide attempt.
1169
01:03:06,834 --> 01:03:08,959
- "Found in coma, 1:30."
1170
01:03:09,041 --> 01:03:10,333
- Yeah.
1171
01:03:10,417 --> 01:03:12,333
- All right, see you later.
- Okay.
1172
01:03:24,625 --> 01:03:27,625
[soft string music]
1173
01:03:27,709 --> 01:03:33,125
♪ ♪
1174
01:03:33,208 --> 01:03:35,125
- January '97.
1175
01:03:35,208 --> 01:03:37,250
January '98, January '99.
1176
01:03:37,333 --> 01:03:39,333
February.
1177
01:03:39,417 --> 01:03:41,792
March, April.
1178
01:03:41,875 --> 01:03:43,458
October.
1179
01:03:43,542 --> 01:03:46,834
2001, 2002, 2003, 2004.
1180
01:03:46,917 --> 01:03:48,458
March, March, March, March.
1181
01:03:48,542 --> 01:03:49,834
[whispering] I don't see
a pattern.
1182
01:03:49,917 --> 01:03:56,458
♪ ♪
1183
01:03:56,542 --> 01:03:59,875
This looks to me
like a very manic phase.
1184
01:03:59,959 --> 01:04:02,125
Intense colors,
1185
01:04:02,208 --> 01:04:04,625
and, like, right here, this is
a very intense thing.
1186
01:04:04,709 --> 01:04:08,041
It has a woman
and it says "Help."
1187
01:04:08,125 --> 01:04:10,375
When she's manic,
is that more likely
1188
01:04:10,458 --> 01:04:12,667
that she's gonna try
to commit suicide?
1189
01:04:12,750 --> 01:04:16,625
But I haven't been able
to find...
1190
01:04:16,709 --> 01:04:20,000
a pattern like that,
because sometimes,
1191
01:04:20,083 --> 01:04:23,375
the pages will be
very bare and blank,
1192
01:04:23,458 --> 01:04:24,500
for example, here,
1193
01:04:24,583 --> 01:04:26,750
she ends up going to get
1194
01:04:26,834 --> 01:04:28,333
electric shock therapy,
1195
01:04:28,417 --> 01:04:30,250
and she stays there for weeks.
1196
01:04:30,333 --> 01:04:33,041
Depressed, depressed,
depressed.
1197
01:04:33,125 --> 01:04:35,000
D, D, D.
1198
01:04:35,083 --> 01:04:36,333
Some "S"s.
1199
01:04:36,417 --> 01:04:37,834
That means
"worse than depressed."
1200
01:04:37,917 --> 01:04:39,083
That means "suicidal."
1201
01:04:39,166 --> 01:04:41,125
Oh look,
here's another one.
1202
01:04:41,208 --> 01:04:43,208
Big, big red S.
1203
01:04:43,291 --> 01:04:46,041
"Took pills for four days,
hoping to die."
1204
01:04:46,125 --> 01:04:49,834
"A good day to die."
1205
01:04:49,917 --> 01:04:53,083
It seems like
everything's fine,
1206
01:04:53,166 --> 01:04:54,750
and then, all of a sudden,
1207
01:04:54,834 --> 01:04:56,333
she tried to kill herself,
1208
01:04:56,417 --> 01:04:58,709
and then she gets out,
1209
01:04:58,792 --> 01:05:01,542
and she goes and plays
ultimate Frisbee.
1210
01:05:01,625 --> 01:05:04,875
She would write "Belle View"--
beautiful view--
1211
01:05:04,959 --> 01:05:07,667
so she must have liked it,
if that's what she called it.
1212
01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:11,208
She really went from
1213
01:05:11,291 --> 01:05:13,875
wonderful times
to horrible times
1214
01:05:13,959 --> 01:05:16,125
very, very quickly.
1215
01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:19,834
Here's a suicide attempt,
February 18th,
1216
01:05:19,917 --> 01:05:21,792
which is my birthday.
1217
01:05:21,875 --> 01:05:23,083
"Sorry, Hopie."
1218
01:05:23,166 --> 01:05:29,166
♪ ♪
1219
01:05:29,250 --> 01:05:31,834
She often accused me
of abandoning her.
1220
01:05:31,917 --> 01:05:33,750
♪ ♪
1221
01:05:33,834 --> 01:05:38,417
And I see that
I was actually with her a lot.
1222
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:41,041
♪ ♪
1223
01:05:41,125 --> 01:05:42,750
Here's the last one.
1224
01:05:42,834 --> 01:05:45,083
♪ ♪
1225
01:05:45,166 --> 01:05:49,583
I found her
on Friday the 12th.
1226
01:05:49,667 --> 01:05:51,125
♪ ♪
1227
01:05:51,208 --> 01:05:53,000
I don't know that she was alive
on the 12th,
1228
01:05:53,083 --> 01:05:56,250
before I found her,
or if she predicted
1229
01:05:56,333 --> 01:05:58,250
she would die
on one of these days,
1230
01:05:58,333 --> 01:06:00,250
and she made
the little circles.
1231
01:06:00,333 --> 01:06:04,375
♪ ♪
1232
01:06:04,458 --> 01:06:07,375
And so I don't really know
what day she died on.
1233
01:06:17,041 --> 01:06:18,625
- Have you seen
these photographs?
1234
01:06:18,709 --> 01:06:20,125
- No.
1235
01:06:20,208 --> 01:06:22,583
- Um, they--they may be
upsetting to you.
1236
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,625
Yep.
1237
01:06:25,709 --> 01:06:28,417
And she's with a--
a stuffed animal, there.
1238
01:06:30,375 --> 01:06:33,250
- Yeah, a stuffed animal.
1239
01:06:33,333 --> 01:06:34,959
Can you tell how long
she had been dead for?
1240
01:06:35,041 --> 01:06:38,166
- Eh, at least of the order
of 24 hours.
1241
01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:47,000
- Someone looks alive
1242
01:06:47,083 --> 01:06:50,583
and then they look really dead.
1243
01:06:50,667 --> 01:06:53,542
- Sometimes death
looks stunningly lifeless.
1244
01:06:53,625 --> 01:06:55,083
I think...
1245
01:06:55,166 --> 01:06:56,250
You know, if--
you know, when your memory
1246
01:06:56,333 --> 01:06:57,834
have been embroidering this
1247
01:06:57,917 --> 01:07:00,750
into something, you know,
more lyrical and exalted,
1248
01:07:00,834 --> 01:07:03,208
but I'm--you know, emotionally,
you know the truth of this
1249
01:07:03,291 --> 01:07:05,458
all the way along, I'm sure.
1250
01:07:05,542 --> 01:07:07,083
- No.
I pretend that
1251
01:07:07,166 --> 01:07:08,458
she's still alive.
1252
01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:17,417
[exhales deeply]
1253
01:07:21,917 --> 01:07:27,417
It's like she's with me
all the time.
1254
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:31,917
The guilt that I feel is...
1255
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,917
unbearable,
1256
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,125
and I'm falling apart.
1257
01:07:38,875 --> 01:07:40,750
[sighs]
1258
01:07:42,542 --> 01:07:44,792
This is hard.
1259
01:07:59,709 --> 01:08:01,875
- You're saying "One swig,
and I'll never drink again?"
1260
01:08:01,959 --> 01:08:03,792
- One swig, and I'll never
drink again.
1261
01:08:03,875 --> 01:08:05,041
- Okay.
1262
01:08:05,125 --> 01:08:06,583
Go ahead.
- I'm gonna have a swig.
1263
01:08:06,667 --> 01:08:08,041
- Okay, I'm coming with you.
1264
01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:10,041
- Okay, I'm gonna
take a glass.
1265
01:08:10,125 --> 01:08:12,083
- Oh, it has to be
out of a glass?
1266
01:08:12,166 --> 01:08:13,667
- Well, do you think
your parents
1267
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:15,083
want me to drink
straight from their bottle?
1268
01:08:15,166 --> 01:08:16,333
- [softly] No...
1269
01:08:20,083 --> 01:08:22,250
- I'm really having
a hard time.
1270
01:08:22,333 --> 01:08:25,750
- Yeah, I know, but
I'm scared, and--
1271
01:08:25,834 --> 01:08:27,625
and I've been
chasing you around all morning,
1272
01:08:27,709 --> 01:08:29,625
trying to make sure
that you don't have a drink,
1273
01:08:29,709 --> 01:08:31,000
I can't do that. I can't--
1274
01:08:31,083 --> 01:08:32,875
I can't follow you around
all day.
1275
01:08:32,959 --> 01:08:36,125
- This will be the last time.
1276
01:08:36,208 --> 01:08:37,625
- And I don't know
what to do.
1277
01:08:37,709 --> 01:08:38,750
I don't know what
the right thing to do is.
1278
01:08:38,834 --> 01:08:39,917
You're not yourself.
1279
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,166
You're a different person.
1280
01:08:58,166 --> 01:09:00,417
Is that how much you want?
1281
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:03,208
I--you can't be passed out
on the airplane.
1282
01:09:09,542 --> 01:09:11,333
- My hands are shaking.
1283
01:09:19,542 --> 01:09:21,041
It's horrible.
1284
01:09:24,542 --> 01:09:27,083
Okay, that's it.
1285
01:09:27,166 --> 01:09:29,208
- I mean, you say--
I know that you say that,
1286
01:09:29,291 --> 01:09:30,583
but, like, I--
1287
01:09:30,667 --> 01:09:32,834
you forget
who you're talking to.
1288
01:09:32,917 --> 01:09:34,834
- What do you mean?
- Now, I'm on camera,
1289
01:09:34,917 --> 01:09:37,709
saying "Have another drink,"
1290
01:09:37,792 --> 01:09:39,458
and, you know...
1291
01:09:39,542 --> 01:09:42,083
- Right now?
- Yeah. I mean, no,
1292
01:09:42,166 --> 01:09:43,709
I'm not saying you should
have another drink now.
1293
01:09:43,792 --> 01:09:45,458
- [laughs]
- I'm just saying we just--
1294
01:09:45,542 --> 01:09:46,959
you just--you said,
"Can I have another drink?"
1295
01:09:47,041 --> 01:09:48,166
and I said "Okay,"
and I don't know
1296
01:09:48,250 --> 01:09:49,667
how to feel about that.
1297
01:09:49,750 --> 01:09:51,125
I mean--
- It's the only thing
1298
01:09:51,208 --> 01:09:52,667
that makes me feel better.
1299
01:09:52,750 --> 01:09:54,959
I don't know
how to explain that.
1300
01:09:55,041 --> 01:09:56,834
- I understand.
- It's the only thing
1301
01:09:56,917 --> 01:09:58,291
that takes the pain away.
- You don't need to explain it.
1302
01:09:58,375 --> 01:09:59,750
- I just feel really guilty
1303
01:09:59,834 --> 01:10:01,667
that I'm alive and she's dead.
1304
01:10:01,750 --> 01:10:04,834
- Well, here's my perspective.
1305
01:10:04,917 --> 01:10:06,583
She's been dead
for seven years
1306
01:10:06,667 --> 01:10:09,000
and she's sent you
to this bar
1307
01:10:09,083 --> 01:10:12,000
from the grave to drink.
- [cries]
1308
01:10:12,083 --> 01:10:15,041
I just--I really don't know
how to stop.
1309
01:10:15,125 --> 01:10:18,125
- I know.
- I know.
1310
01:10:45,625 --> 01:10:47,792
Here's my rehab room.
1311
01:10:58,583 --> 01:10:59,917
The big book,
1312
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:05,583
required reading
for all alcoholics.
1313
01:11:05,667 --> 01:11:08,041
Pictures from my kids.
1314
01:11:10,250 --> 01:11:11,750
There's nothing wrong
with them.
1315
01:11:11,834 --> 01:11:15,000
Obviously, I'm the one
with the problem.
1316
01:11:17,291 --> 01:11:20,917
I always wanted
to be the opposite of Ruth.
1317
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,875
You know what?
We're not that different.
1318
01:11:40,083 --> 01:11:42,792
I always knew that
I felt very guilty,
1319
01:11:42,875 --> 01:11:45,834
and I always knew
I blamed myself,
1320
01:11:45,917 --> 01:11:50,250
but I didn't realize
how painful it would be
1321
01:11:50,333 --> 01:11:53,709
to have compassion for her.
1322
01:11:57,750 --> 01:12:00,750
[jaunty music over radio]
1323
01:12:00,834 --> 01:12:03,125
♪ ♪
1324
01:12:03,208 --> 01:12:04,709
So ask me a question.
1325
01:12:04,792 --> 01:12:06,542
- Where are you--where are you
coming from?
1326
01:12:06,625 --> 01:12:07,750
Where are you going?
1327
01:12:07,834 --> 01:12:08,917
[laughter]
1328
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,542
- I have 30 days sober today.
1329
01:12:11,625 --> 01:12:13,250
- Yay.
- And I'm going home.
1330
01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:17,083
- How exciting.
- Very exciting.
1331
01:12:17,166 --> 01:12:18,458
- You look good.
1332
01:12:18,542 --> 01:12:20,000
- Thanks. I miss you.
1333
01:12:20,083 --> 01:12:21,125
- I miss you too.
1334
01:12:46,959 --> 01:12:51,041
- What do you know about
these sort of blueprints
1335
01:12:51,125 --> 01:12:55,500
that she made for a possible
display at Bellevue?
1336
01:12:55,583 --> 01:12:57,667
- It was one of the last things
that she worked on.
1337
01:12:57,750 --> 01:13:00,333
Uh, she really wanted
to do something
1338
01:13:00,417 --> 01:13:04,750
with her flowers
in a dead space.
1339
01:13:04,834 --> 01:13:06,959
- Do you think
it would be crazy
1340
01:13:07,041 --> 01:13:10,041
to try and make this happen?
1341
01:13:10,125 --> 01:13:13,375
- Are you ready to,
emotionally?
1342
01:13:13,458 --> 01:13:15,291
Combining not just the art,
1343
01:13:15,375 --> 01:13:19,291
but the crazy and the hospitals
and the whole thing?
1344
01:13:19,375 --> 01:13:20,750
- I don't know.
1345
01:13:22,291 --> 01:13:23,875
You want to help me carry it?
1346
01:13:23,959 --> 01:13:25,625
Thank you.
1347
01:13:29,458 --> 01:13:31,250
[warm guitar music]
1348
01:13:31,333 --> 01:13:32,667
- It's one thing to say,
1349
01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:34,667
"Okay, I think I'm ready
to go,"
1350
01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:37,417
and open up the storage unit
1351
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:39,583
and look at her work,
1352
01:13:39,667 --> 01:13:44,125
but this becomes
a whole other thing.
1353
01:13:44,208 --> 01:13:47,250
- The difference with this,
though, is
1354
01:13:47,333 --> 01:13:48,709
I would be making
1355
01:13:48,792 --> 01:13:51,166
one of Ruth's wishes
come true.
1356
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,208
- Well, that's for sure.
1357
01:13:53,291 --> 01:13:55,667
- And if I could
realize that for her,
1358
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:57,792
I would feel really proud.
1359
01:13:57,875 --> 01:14:05,000
♪ ♪
1360
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:20,417
I want to celebrate
the good things about Ruth
1361
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:23,792
and not dwell on
the bad things.
1362
01:14:23,875 --> 01:14:30,917
♪ ♪
1363
01:14:40,709 --> 01:14:42,709
Okay, so I should change.
1364
01:14:42,792 --> 01:14:49,750
♪ ♪
1365
01:14:49,834 --> 01:14:51,208
[doorbell rings]
1366
01:14:52,875 --> 01:14:54,208
Hello.
- Hey!
1367
01:14:54,291 --> 01:14:55,792
Hi, I'm Greg Mink.
How we doing?
1368
01:14:55,875 --> 01:14:57,208
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
1369
01:14:57,291 --> 01:14:58,291
- Thank you so much
for coming over.
1370
01:14:58,375 --> 01:14:59,792
- Not a problem.
1371
01:14:59,875 --> 01:15:03,834
- So, um, I set up
the photographs in here.
1372
01:15:03,917 --> 01:15:06,250
- Wow.
1373
01:15:06,333 --> 01:15:08,959
- So, um,
1374
01:15:09,041 --> 01:15:11,333
these are ones
that you probably saw with her
1375
01:15:11,417 --> 01:15:13,834
years ago.
- Yes. Mm-hmm.
1376
01:15:13,917 --> 01:15:15,834
- There's more in here.
- Mm-hmm.
1377
01:15:15,917 --> 01:15:18,375
It's a little dusty, but...
1378
01:15:18,458 --> 01:15:19,834
[laughs]
1379
01:15:19,917 --> 01:15:22,083
Um, I actually have that one
on my wall.
1380
01:15:22,166 --> 01:15:23,959
- Mm-hmm.
1381
01:15:24,041 --> 01:15:25,875
- This box has a lot,
1382
01:15:25,959 --> 01:15:27,542
but you could choose which one
you could take with you.
1383
01:15:27,625 --> 01:15:30,000
- Mm-hmm. The next one?
1384
01:15:30,083 --> 01:15:31,166
- Mm-hmm.
- Mm-hmm.
1385
01:15:31,250 --> 01:15:33,041
- Oh, that's a pretty one.
1386
01:15:33,125 --> 01:15:34,500
We're gonna give you that one,
even if you don't want it.
1387
01:15:34,583 --> 01:15:36,333
- Yes. Mm-hmm.
1388
01:15:36,417 --> 01:15:38,083
- You can see, like...
- Yes.
1389
01:15:38,166 --> 01:15:40,291
- The scale really
makes a difference.
1390
01:15:40,375 --> 01:15:41,333
- Yes.
- You know?
1391
01:15:41,417 --> 01:15:43,917
- Mm-hmm.
1392
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,208
- I'm so excited.
1393
01:15:46,291 --> 01:15:47,875
- Uh, we'll meet with--
meet with
1394
01:15:47,959 --> 01:15:49,792
the public affairs people
next week,
1395
01:15:49,875 --> 01:15:52,083
and in terms of this show
and we'll just give them a--
1396
01:15:52,166 --> 01:15:53,542
a little background,
1397
01:15:53,625 --> 01:15:57,041
and I think they would be
on board.
1398
01:15:57,125 --> 01:16:00,041
[somber piano music]
1399
01:16:00,125 --> 01:16:03,375
♪ ♪
1400
01:16:03,458 --> 01:16:04,917
- Like maybe, up to the--
1401
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:12,125
♪ ♪
1402
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,375
- So now you can see
some of that detail.
1403
01:16:15,458 --> 01:16:17,709
- Wow, that detail
is amazing.
1404
01:16:17,792 --> 01:16:19,959
♪ ♪
1405
01:16:20,041 --> 01:16:21,834
- Look at that yellow green.
That's like...
1406
01:16:21,917 --> 01:16:23,291
- That's wonderful.
1407
01:16:23,375 --> 01:16:25,875
- Yeah.
Get a little bit better sense
1408
01:16:25,959 --> 01:16:27,875
of what we're looking at.
1409
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,417
- Ooh.
1410
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:31,792
Ooh!
1411
01:16:31,875 --> 01:16:34,083
- Yeah, this one's magical.
- Magical.
1412
01:16:34,166 --> 01:16:35,375
- Yeah.
1413
01:16:35,458 --> 01:16:37,709
- Wow.
I know she loved this one,
1414
01:16:37,792 --> 01:16:39,625
because she gave it a name.
1415
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:43,667
♪ ♪
1416
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:46,083
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
1417
01:16:46,166 --> 01:16:48,083
- And then, are these logos
correct?
1418
01:16:48,166 --> 01:16:49,375
- Yes.
- And do you like
1419
01:16:49,458 --> 01:16:51,250
the name and font?
- Yes.
1420
01:16:51,333 --> 01:16:52,750
♪ ♪
1421
01:16:52,834 --> 01:16:55,625
It just has to look good.
1422
01:16:55,709 --> 01:16:57,166
It has to look as good
1423
01:16:57,250 --> 01:16:59,834
as Ruth would want it to look.
1424
01:17:01,667 --> 01:17:04,542
She had very high standards...
1425
01:17:11,917 --> 01:17:15,250
That were a little hard
to live up to.
1426
01:17:21,417 --> 01:17:23,875
I don't doubt
1427
01:17:23,959 --> 01:17:26,834
the artwork
and I don't doubt...
1428
01:17:28,875 --> 01:17:30,709
I just--
I just want to make sure
1429
01:17:30,792 --> 01:17:32,375
that I did it right.
1430
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:48,125
I can carry one.
1431
01:17:48,208 --> 01:17:55,375
♪ ♪
1432
01:18:02,208 --> 01:18:04,125
When we were little kids,
1433
01:18:04,208 --> 01:18:06,542
I was her faithful servant.
1434
01:18:06,625 --> 01:18:08,667
♪ ♪
1435
01:18:08,750 --> 01:18:10,917
I still feel like I am.
1436
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:17,750
♪ ♪
1437
01:18:17,834 --> 01:18:20,792
She always wanted to
become one with me.
1438
01:18:20,875 --> 01:18:21,959
Looks good.
1439
01:18:22,041 --> 01:18:23,542
She's in there.
1440
01:18:23,625 --> 01:18:27,875
♪ ♪
1441
01:18:27,959 --> 01:18:30,583
My sister made these.
- Can I take a picture?
1442
01:18:30,667 --> 01:18:31,834
- You can take a picture.
Of course.
1443
01:18:31,917 --> 01:18:34,750
- Cell phone--take a picture.
1444
01:18:34,834 --> 01:18:36,709
- That's cute.
- Thank you so much.
1445
01:18:36,792 --> 01:18:38,333
Thank you.
- No, thank you.
1446
01:18:38,417 --> 01:18:39,834
I'm glad you're enjoying it.
1447
01:18:39,917 --> 01:18:42,375
That makes me really happy.
Thank you.
1448
01:18:42,458 --> 01:18:49,583
♪ ♪
1449
01:19:07,041 --> 01:19:08,458
One of Ruth's dreams
1450
01:19:08,542 --> 01:19:11,375
was to have a show
at Bellevue.
1451
01:19:11,458 --> 01:19:14,750
I made it my dream
to have a show at Bellevue.
1452
01:19:14,834 --> 01:19:16,959
That's not my dream.
1453
01:19:17,041 --> 01:19:19,917
♪ ♪
1454
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,917
My dream is something
so impossible.
1455
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,083
My wish is that
she'd come back
1456
01:19:24,166 --> 01:19:25,792
and be healthy.
1457
01:19:25,875 --> 01:19:33,000
♪ ♪
1458
01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,291
There is something unique
1459
01:20:13,375 --> 01:20:16,083
about losing someone
to suicide.
1460
01:20:16,166 --> 01:20:21,208
It's not really something
you're ever gonna get over.
1461
01:20:21,291 --> 01:20:24,667
It's a daily battle.
1462
01:20:24,750 --> 01:20:28,375
It's like you always
have a splinter in your hand
1463
01:20:28,458 --> 01:20:30,709
Sometimes you notice it
and sometimes you don't,
1464
01:20:30,792 --> 01:20:32,792
but the splinter's
always there.
1465
01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:34,625
♪ ♪
1466
01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:37,959
You can't destroy yourself
over it, but...
1467
01:20:38,041 --> 01:20:40,709
♪ ♪
1468
01:20:40,792 --> 01:20:43,500
You can have the splinter
and live.
1469
01:20:43,583 --> 01:20:45,417
The splinter's not gonna
kill you.
1470
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:48,417
♪ ♪
1471
01:20:50,083 --> 01:20:54,333
- You want to talk
about your sister?
1472
01:20:54,417 --> 01:20:57,750
- Um, when I did that portrait
of my sister,
1473
01:20:57,834 --> 01:21:00,458
we were in a very good mood
and we were very happy,
1474
01:21:00,542 --> 01:21:03,750
but I always knew
1475
01:21:03,834 --> 01:21:05,834
there was something
underlying--
1476
01:21:05,917 --> 01:21:08,041
you know, down inside her--
1477
01:21:08,125 --> 01:21:12,000
that it just wasn't
altogether happy.
1478
01:21:12,083 --> 01:21:13,583
- Do you love your sister?
1479
01:21:13,667 --> 01:21:16,000
- I love my sister
very much.
1480
01:21:16,083 --> 01:21:18,250
She's probably
the most important person to me
1481
01:21:18,333 --> 01:21:20,458
in the world.
1482
01:21:24,083 --> 01:21:27,041
[mournful music]
1483
01:21:27,125 --> 01:21:34,166
♪ ♪
1484
01:22:53,417 --> 01:22:55,542
[bright tone]
95628
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.