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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,112 --> 00:00:14,848 >> Has a new humanoid species been discovered 2 00:00:14,848 --> 00:00:16,950 in the mountains near Nazca, Peru? 3 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:19,253 >> We are living in a very exciting moment. 4 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:21,321 This is pure history in the making. 5 00:00:21,321 --> 00:00:24,224 >> Have scientists working around the world proven that 6 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:26,093 the Nazca mummies are genuine? 7 00:00:26,093 --> 00:00:29,997 >> The results strongly supports that these beings are not 8 00:00:29,997 --> 00:00:34,301 closely related to any known organism on Earth. 9 00:00:34,301 --> 00:00:37,070 >> Is there a concerted effort to discredit and deny 10 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:38,305 the evidence? 11 00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:40,674 {\an8}>> The Ministry of Culture, until last Friday, 12 00:00:40,674 --> 00:00:42,442 was interested in participating. 13 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:44,611 But for unknown reasons, they've backed down. 14 00:00:44,611 --> 00:00:47,948 {\an8}>> If it was really an ET mummy, they should be able to show CAT 15 00:00:47,948 --> 00:00:50,817 scans and X-rays of the individual. 16 00:00:50,817 --> 00:00:52,286 >> They have done X-rays on them. 17 00:00:52,286 --> 00:00:53,954 Is that something the Ministry of Culture 18 00:00:53,954 --> 00:00:55,989 would be interested in? 19 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:58,959 >> Never-before-seen footage of the location where the bodies 20 00:00:58,959 --> 00:00:59,826 were found. 21 00:00:59,826 --> 00:01:02,629 >> It's clear that this was some hidden place. 22 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:04,698 Maybe there are more subject. 23 00:01:04,698 --> 00:01:07,968 >> New high-resolution CAT scans that contain startling 24 00:01:07,968 --> 00:01:08,969 revelations. 25 00:01:08,969 --> 00:01:13,907 >> Inside, he was able to detect the feathers of some creature. 26 00:01:16,743 --> 00:01:20,847 It is clear by scientists that it's something different. 27 00:01:20,847 --> 00:01:23,817 It is not human. 28 00:01:23,817 --> 00:01:24,952 >> "Unearthing Nazca." 29 00:01:33,193 --> 00:01:36,830 In 2016, a rare find was discovered 30 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:39,766 in the Palpa region, south of Peru, 31 00:01:39,766 --> 00:01:43,203 very close to the mythical region of Nazca. 32 00:01:43,203 --> 00:01:46,506 A huaquero, or tomb raider, found a group 33 00:01:46,506 --> 00:01:49,343 of mummified bodies with surprising physical 34 00:01:49,343 --> 00:01:50,944 characteristics-- 35 00:01:50,944 --> 00:01:55,015 hands with three fingers and elongated heads. 36 00:01:55,015 --> 00:01:57,217 According to his account, he found them 37 00:01:57,217 --> 00:02:01,888 in a secret tomb, of which only he knew the location. 38 00:02:01,888 --> 00:02:04,424 The subsequent testing on these bodies 39 00:02:04,424 --> 00:02:08,962 revealed extraordinary facts, such as their ancientness 40 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:12,699 and the fact that it was a biological organism. 41 00:02:12,699 --> 00:02:15,969 At the same time, the tests opened more questions 42 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:19,906 of what these mummified beings could be. 43 00:02:19,906 --> 00:02:22,676 The country's government officials and archaeologists 44 00:02:22,676 --> 00:02:26,613 were very adamant about not being involved. 45 00:02:26,613 --> 00:02:30,817 Yet, they let the testing continue privately. 46 00:02:30,817 --> 00:02:35,422 What did this huaquero really find that day in 2016? 47 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:38,959 And why have the local authorities not taken part 48 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:43,964 in the research of what could be an unparalleled discovery 49 00:02:43,964 --> 00:02:45,966 in Peru? 50 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:50,003 Is this a well-orchestrated fraud by a tomb raider? 51 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:52,839 Or are we facing a blatant attempt 52 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:56,610 to discredit such an astonishing finding? 53 00:02:56,610 --> 00:03:00,280 And if so, for what purpose? 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,717 This is the story of a group of scientists and journalists 55 00:03:03,717 --> 00:03:07,821 from different countries looking to gain access to the mummies 56 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:09,923 and discover the truth, no matter 57 00:03:09,923 --> 00:03:11,425 what the barriers might be. 58 00:03:15,829 --> 00:03:19,966 If you are questioning why a grave robber should be trusted 59 00:03:19,966 --> 00:03:23,837 with such a find, we want to bring to your attention 60 00:03:23,837 --> 00:03:28,208 that sometimes the most astonishing finds in history 61 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:32,045 can be uncovered in the most unorthodox ways. 62 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:35,715 We are not condoning the idea of robbing graves. 63 00:03:35,715 --> 00:03:38,618 We are simply saying that throughout history, there 64 00:03:38,618 --> 00:03:42,322 have been discoveries found by such a person that changed 65 00:03:42,322 --> 00:03:44,825 the course of history and what we thought 66 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:49,963 we knew about ancient cultures, such as the case of the most 67 00:03:49,963 --> 00:03:53,700 ancient biblical texts on record, the so-called Dead Sea 68 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:57,904 Scrolls, written in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. 69 00:03:57,904 --> 00:04:00,974 The scrolls were found by Bedouin shepherds looking 70 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:05,512 for their goats in a cave of the Qumran region. 71 00:04:05,512 --> 00:04:07,848 They gathered as much as they could carry 72 00:04:07,848 --> 00:04:10,951 and sold some of the scrolls to the highest bidder 73 00:04:10,951 --> 00:04:15,088 and used the rest for kindling for a fire. 74 00:04:15,088 --> 00:04:17,991 This find not only became a source of income 75 00:04:17,991 --> 00:04:20,193 for the shepherds, but it provided 76 00:04:20,193 --> 00:04:24,030 a wealth of comparative material for New Testament scholars, 77 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:27,634 including many important parallels between Christianity 78 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:28,335 and Judaism. 79 00:04:31,204 --> 00:04:33,907 On the other side of the world, a similar story 80 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:37,911 took place in Peru in 1987. 81 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:40,080 Authorities became aware of a magnificent 82 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,950 find after a disagreement between two grave robbers that 83 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:47,654 led to the discovery of the Lord of Sipan tomb. 84 00:04:47,654 --> 00:04:50,323 This discovery was compared to the excavation 85 00:04:50,323 --> 00:04:52,492 of King Tut in Egypt. 86 00:04:52,492 --> 00:04:56,296 An almost completely intact ancient burial, 87 00:04:56,296 --> 00:04:59,533 which is a rare and dazzling discovery. 88 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:01,501 It was quite rare for archaeologists 89 00:05:01,501 --> 00:05:05,005 to have access to a tomb which is nearly complete, 90 00:05:05,005 --> 00:05:07,841 like the one they found with Lord Sipan. 91 00:05:07,841 --> 00:05:10,677 This allowed new discoveries by archaeologists 92 00:05:10,677 --> 00:05:15,015 and historians' previous knowledge of the Mochi culture. 93 00:05:15,015 --> 00:05:18,952 This story also begins with a tomb radar, or huaquero, 94 00:05:18,952 --> 00:05:21,454 who we will call Mario. 95 00:05:21,454 --> 00:05:24,658 When entering a secret tomb, he found something 96 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:26,927 that he had never seen before-- 97 00:05:26,927 --> 00:05:30,096 several mummies with very different characteristics 98 00:05:30,096 --> 00:05:34,401 to humans, like very strange heads and hands covered 99 00:05:34,401 --> 00:05:36,236 in a white powder. 100 00:05:36,236 --> 00:05:38,872 Without specifying the exact site, 101 00:05:38,872 --> 00:05:42,509 he said that it was in a desert between Palpa and Nazca 102 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:46,012 in the department of Ica, an archaeological area 103 00:05:46,012 --> 00:05:49,115 in which several remnants have been found. 104 00:05:49,115 --> 00:05:53,053 According to those who still conduct this illicit activity, 105 00:05:53,053 --> 00:05:56,623 it still hides many more treasures. 106 00:05:56,623 --> 00:05:59,025 Because of his expertise, Mario knew 107 00:05:59,025 --> 00:06:02,462 that he had found pieces of great value. 108 00:06:02,462 --> 00:06:06,433 To be absolutely certain, he contacted Thierry Jamin, 109 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:09,035 director of the Institute Inkari, 110 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:11,738 a nongovernmental organization located 111 00:06:11,738 --> 00:06:15,942 in Cusco dedicated to the study of the historical Peruvian 112 00:06:15,942 --> 00:06:17,510 heritage. 113 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:20,947 The purpose of showing Thierry the pieces he had found 114 00:06:20,947 --> 00:06:23,617 was to know if they were authentic or fake. 115 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:30,223 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 116 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:33,493 {\an8}>> Locals from this region of Peru, from the countryside, 117 00:06:33,493 --> 00:06:36,463 sometimes come to us with archaeological samples, 118 00:06:36,463 --> 00:06:40,200 ceramics, and other artifacts, as well as their accounts about 119 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,703 such-and-such a site they've discovered. 120 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:49,042 In October 2016, we received one of those visits. 121 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:52,112 The group was in possession of several artifacts-- 122 00:06:52,112 --> 00:06:54,114 little bodies, heads, and hands. 123 00:06:56,916 --> 00:06:59,052 They were looking for our professional opinion 124 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:01,421 and support. 125 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:04,958 They wanted our help in disclosing the findings. 126 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:07,527 Our first impression was that they were authentic, 127 00:07:07,527 --> 00:07:12,098 given our expertise in analyzing mummified objects. 128 00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:15,635 Immediately, we realized the significance of the findings 129 00:07:15,635 --> 00:07:17,837 and thought it was a breakthrough. 130 00:07:17,837 --> 00:07:22,242 We felt we did not have the right to keep it to ourselves. 131 00:07:22,242 --> 00:07:24,944 >> The information was uploaded to the internet, 132 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:26,946 so it became public knowledge. 133 00:07:26,946 --> 00:07:29,716 Immediately, people from all over the world 134 00:07:29,716 --> 00:07:32,619 were interested in the findings and ready to conduct 135 00:07:32,619 --> 00:07:36,623 a deeper investigation of the pieces shown on the internet. 136 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:41,194 {\an8}>> In October and November 2016, I saw some videos through 137 00:07:41,194 --> 00:07:45,498 {\an8}internet and YouTube of this man in Peru presenting little 138 00:07:45,498 --> 00:07:48,835 bodies that didn't look human. 139 00:07:48,835 --> 00:07:50,970 He presented a huge hand. 140 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:52,906 It didn't look human. 141 00:07:52,906 --> 00:07:55,408 He said that they were found in a tomb 142 00:07:55,408 --> 00:07:58,878 the middle of the desert near Nazca. 143 00:07:58,878 --> 00:08:01,014 Then I didn't pay attention, because I 144 00:08:01,014 --> 00:08:02,949 thought they were fakes. 145 00:08:02,949 --> 00:08:03,817 It's a hoax. 146 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:04,617 I don't like it. 147 00:08:04,617 --> 00:08:09,322 I don't feel right when someone wants to be anonymous. 148 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:15,628 But in March 2017, a biologist called me and said, Jaime, 149 00:08:15,628 --> 00:08:16,429 look at this. 150 00:08:16,429 --> 00:08:17,997 This is very interesting. 151 00:08:17,997 --> 00:08:20,633 Have you talked to Thierry Jamin? 152 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:23,970 He's a French archaeologist living in Cusco. 153 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:25,638 And I say, no. 154 00:08:25,638 --> 00:08:27,974 He said, don't you want to interview him? 155 00:08:27,974 --> 00:08:33,213 And then I interviewed him in my program in the internet, 156 00:08:33,213 --> 00:08:34,948 and I thought this was very serious. 157 00:08:34,948 --> 00:08:36,616 I thought this was very important. 158 00:08:36,616 --> 00:08:41,087 I thought this man had my credibility, Thierry Jamin. 159 00:08:41,087 --> 00:08:44,958 And I said, I have to go to Peru. 160 00:08:44,958 --> 00:08:48,194 >> Jaime Maussan contacted Gaia to see if they wanted 161 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:51,965 to investigate the bodies with him and his team. 162 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:58,304 {\an8}>> Our real mission on taking this lead and following Jaime 163 00:08:58,304 --> 00:09:03,410 to see these bodies was just to see what it is. 164 00:09:03,410 --> 00:09:05,412 We're just literally there because we're 165 00:09:05,412 --> 00:09:08,548 curious of what it might be. 166 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:12,419 >> Several crews-- consisting of camera operators, translators, 167 00:09:12,419 --> 00:09:14,654 journalists, and forensic experts-- 168 00:09:14,654 --> 00:09:18,958 headed to Cusco, Peru, to see the pieces for themselves. 169 00:09:18,958 --> 00:09:20,960 Thierry believed the best thing to do 170 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,663 was to alert the authorities, as well, so they 171 00:09:23,663 --> 00:09:26,999 could join in the discovery. 172 00:09:26,999 --> 00:09:31,538 On January 11, 2017, Thierry Jamin 173 00:09:31,538 --> 00:09:35,708 sent a letter to Dr. Jorge Nieto Montesinos, director 174 00:09:35,708 --> 00:09:37,944 of the Ministry of Culture in Peru, 175 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:40,613 to inform him of the findings and to request 176 00:09:40,613 --> 00:09:43,516 his participation in the investigations. 177 00:09:43,516 --> 00:09:47,954 However, an official response was never received. 178 00:09:47,954 --> 00:09:49,722 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 179 00:09:51,257 --> 00:09:54,828 {\an8}>> I got in touch with the Peruvian Ministry of Culture 180 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:57,997 {\an8}at the beginning of January in order to make them aware 181 00:09:57,997 --> 00:09:59,999 of the case. 182 00:09:59,999 --> 00:10:01,901 We were worried for the possibility 183 00:10:01,901 --> 00:10:04,637 that this archaeological treasure trove would 184 00:10:04,637 --> 00:10:06,973 be taken out of the country. 185 00:10:06,973 --> 00:10:10,043 We acted promptly to try and make the government intervene 186 00:10:10,043 --> 00:10:13,446 before the pieces disappeared. 187 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:16,950 I never received an official response. 188 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:20,253 An archaeologist named Alberto Jacinto, 189 00:10:20,253 --> 00:10:22,755 head of the culture department at Nazca, 190 00:10:22,755 --> 00:10:24,991 that got in touch with me via email 191 00:10:24,991 --> 00:10:27,627 to let me know that the minister in Lima 192 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:32,131 had assigned him the case and ordered him to investigate. 193 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:34,968 But I never received a direct answer from the ministry 194 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:40,974 through a letter, as I expected, in reply to our letter. 195 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:44,210 >> The null answer from the Peruvian government left those 196 00:10:44,210 --> 00:10:47,947 interested with no other alternative but to become 197 00:10:47,947 --> 00:10:50,950 the investigators and researchers themselves, 198 00:10:50,950 --> 00:10:53,987 to try getting to the bottom of the matter. 199 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:56,823 Little by little, an interdisciplinary group 200 00:10:56,823 --> 00:10:59,192 of professionals took shape, with people 201 00:10:59,192 --> 00:11:01,294 from five countries. 202 00:11:01,294 --> 00:11:05,131 It included scientist Konstantin Korotkov from Russia; 203 00:11:05,131 --> 00:11:07,834 journalists from Mexico and Peru, 204 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:11,204 as well as the journalistic team from Gaia in the US; 205 00:11:11,204 --> 00:11:16,609 biologists and forensic doctors from Mexico, the US, and Peru; 206 00:11:16,609 --> 00:11:19,445 as well as archaeologist Thierry Jamin from France. 207 00:11:23,216 --> 00:11:26,953 With their combined efforts and individual abilities, 208 00:11:26,953 --> 00:11:29,956 they would try to reach an objective explanation 209 00:11:29,956 --> 00:11:32,091 to such a discovery. 210 00:11:32,091 --> 00:11:35,962 The team knew that despite the excitement and optimism, 211 00:11:35,962 --> 00:11:38,865 it would be necessary to compile evidence that could 212 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:42,035 prove the discovery to be real. 213 00:11:42,035 --> 00:11:44,470 So they began the trip to Peru with hopes 214 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:48,074 to meet Mario and gain access to the bodies that had 215 00:11:48,074 --> 00:11:51,344 caused such high expectations. 216 00:11:51,344 --> 00:11:52,111 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 217 00:11:52,111 --> 00:11:54,547 {\an8}>> We were in contact with all the players involved 218 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:55,949 {\an8}in the finding. 219 00:11:55,949 --> 00:11:57,884 {\an8}We will start our research in order 220 00:11:57,884 --> 00:12:00,954 to establish the authenticity of the pieces. 221 00:12:00,954 --> 00:12:03,323 {\an8}>> I've only seen the photographs and the X-rays, 222 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:04,991 {\an8}and I'm very impressed with it. 223 00:12:04,991 --> 00:12:09,462 {\an8}And I think this could be one of the most important discoveries 224 00:12:09,462 --> 00:12:12,632 ever in the history of the human race, actually. 225 00:12:12,632 --> 00:12:16,402 {\an8}>> Well, we are ready to start this important trip to Peru 226 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:21,007 {\an8}to find out if these bodies are really not human or if they are 227 00:12:21,007 --> 00:12:23,610 {\an8}just an elaborate hoax. 228 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:25,678 The results that we are going to find 229 00:12:25,678 --> 00:12:29,882 through forensic scientists, biologists, and investigators 230 00:12:29,882 --> 00:12:32,485 are going to be very important. 231 00:12:32,485 --> 00:12:37,090 >> But things in Peru would not be so simple for the team. 232 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:39,192 Gaining access to the bodies would 233 00:12:39,192 --> 00:12:43,529 be much more complicated than they had anticipated initially. 234 00:12:43,529 --> 00:12:46,532 The team had to negotiate in length 235 00:12:46,532 --> 00:12:50,470 just to gain access to the bodies. 236 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:55,074 The first palpable evidence was given to the team in Cusco 237 00:12:55,074 --> 00:12:57,243 at the Institute Inkari. 238 00:12:57,243 --> 00:13:00,947 Its director, Thierry Jamin, showed several objects 239 00:13:00,947 --> 00:13:04,751 that Mario agreed for the group to see. 240 00:13:04,751 --> 00:13:06,919 Being face-to-face with the objects 241 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:11,557 created an atmosphere of excitement and expectation. 242 00:13:11,557 --> 00:13:15,695 At the same time, it required them to capture as much data 243 00:13:15,695 --> 00:13:20,833 from the pieces as possible without losing objectivity. 244 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:22,869 The first pieces of evidence were 245 00:13:22,869 --> 00:13:27,340 two strange elongated heads. 246 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:29,275 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 247 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:34,347 {\an8}>> In this piece, there is a very small mandible-- 248 00:13:34,347 --> 00:13:36,683 very small. 249 00:13:36,683 --> 00:13:42,121 In the second piece, we can see the atlas, or C1, the vertebrae 250 00:13:42,121 --> 00:13:43,623 that sits just below the skull. 251 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:48,628 We can see some grooves. 252 00:13:48,628 --> 00:13:50,263 There is also what could be considered 253 00:13:50,263 --> 00:13:56,969 a mouth, nasal sinuses, a nose, and also orbital cavities, 254 00:13:56,969 --> 00:13:59,005 very prominent. 255 00:13:59,005 --> 00:14:01,841 Those cavities are crossed by grooves in both pieces. 256 00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:07,947 Both pieces are very similar. 257 00:14:07,947 --> 00:14:10,950 >> But were they real? 258 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:13,219 During the first trip, the team learned 259 00:14:13,219 --> 00:14:16,122 that someone who had been associated with Mario 260 00:14:16,122 --> 00:14:20,693 {\an8}showed the Ministry of Culture a three-fingered hand. 261 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:23,196 {\an8}The Ministry labeled it as a fraud. 262 00:14:23,196 --> 00:14:26,699 {\an8}They declared that the hands had been intentionally mutilated 263 00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:30,703 {\an8}by removing two fingers and that smeared plaster was giving them 264 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:32,538 a mummified appearance. 265 00:14:32,538 --> 00:14:34,741 Additionally, the Ministry concluded 266 00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:39,512 that the transformation was done in a workshop in Nazca. 267 00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:43,950 These assertions would certainly complicate the investigation. 268 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:46,986 The Ministry would condition the Peruvian scientists 269 00:14:46,986 --> 00:14:51,090 to be incredulous and ready to discredit any information 270 00:14:51,090 --> 00:14:53,659 related to this finding. 271 00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:55,328 Why would the Ministry of Culture 272 00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:57,430 look at this piece of evidence and not 273 00:14:57,430 --> 00:15:01,134 the other bodies Thierry wrote them about? 274 00:15:01,134 --> 00:15:03,202 The team continues to investigate 275 00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:06,005 all the findings to see if there was 276 00:15:06,005 --> 00:15:09,675 evidence of something organic. 277 00:15:09,675 --> 00:15:11,711 In this first visit, Thierry Jamin 278 00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:13,913 showed the group a couple of bodies 279 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:16,682 about 60 centimeters in length, which 280 00:15:16,682 --> 00:15:19,051 had an organic appearance. 281 00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:22,121 Furthermore, one of the bodies had a strange bulge 282 00:15:22,121 --> 00:15:26,993 in the belly, much like that of a gestating organism. 283 00:15:26,993 --> 00:15:28,628 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 284 00:15:29,662 --> 00:15:32,698 {\an8}>> In this being, we find the joints both in the elbows 285 00:15:32,698 --> 00:15:34,967 and lower limbs. 286 00:15:34,967 --> 00:15:37,403 Also, there are hip joints. 287 00:15:37,403 --> 00:15:42,608 There is a small bulge in the stomach, near the hips. 288 00:15:42,608 --> 00:15:44,410 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 289 00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:46,679 {\an8}>> We need radiographs or, better yet, 290 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:52,084 {\an8}CAT scans in order to determine what this protrusion is. 291 00:15:52,084 --> 00:15:55,454 >> The group moved to a clinic to perform X-rays and CAT scans 292 00:15:55,454 --> 00:15:58,991 on the bodies and find out if they actually had an internal 293 00:15:58,991 --> 00:16:00,860 bone structure. 294 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:02,962 The group also wanted to learn more 295 00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:06,265 about the bulge in the belly in one of the bodies. 296 00:16:06,265 --> 00:16:09,202 While performing the X-rays and CAT scans, 297 00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:13,005 they discovered some interesting structures inside the body. 298 00:16:13,005 --> 00:16:14,974 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 299 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:20,012 >> This is a very important image, 300 00:16:20,012 --> 00:16:22,949 as it allows us to observe the bones-- 301 00:16:22,949 --> 00:16:26,552 the skull with its bone consistency, but also the metal 302 00:16:26,552 --> 00:16:29,655 within its chest. 303 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:33,993 This piece of metal won't allow us to see the bone underneath. 304 00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:38,130 This metal piece is embedded in the chest of the object. 305 00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:41,033 It blocks the view from the bones behind. 306 00:16:41,033 --> 00:16:44,971 However, when we reach the pelvic cavity or lower stomach, 307 00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:48,841 we see three structures with an oval shape. 308 00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:52,345 These structures do allow rays to penetrate and show 309 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:54,714 the bone structure behind. 310 00:16:54,714 --> 00:16:56,415 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 311 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:59,719 >> You can't see it in radiographs, 312 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:02,955 but upon physical examination of the specimen, 313 00:17:02,955 --> 00:17:06,826 we noticed a structure between the legs that could be 314 00:17:06,826 --> 00:17:09,962 identified as a birth canal. 315 00:17:09,962 --> 00:17:12,832 We can't be sure, but it is consistent 316 00:17:12,832 --> 00:17:15,968 with similar structures in species such as reptiles 317 00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,236 that develop and lay eggs. 318 00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:25,511 >> The team was definitely impressed, 319 00:17:25,511 --> 00:17:28,948 and so Mario promised more bodies. 320 00:17:28,948 --> 00:17:31,550 They continued with the investigation. 321 00:17:31,550 --> 00:17:34,320 The team moved to the southern part of the country, 322 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,956 to the Nazca region. 323 00:17:36,956 --> 00:17:40,293 This place is known worldwide because of the lines 324 00:17:40,293 --> 00:17:44,030 and figures carved into the sandy, desert-like floor that 325 00:17:44,030 --> 00:17:47,633 can only be observed from high altitude. 326 00:17:47,633 --> 00:17:51,470 The structures date back some 1,700 years, 327 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:54,874 which coincides with a time the Nazca culture flourished 328 00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:55,975 in the region. 329 00:17:55,975 --> 00:17:59,211 The lines in the Nazca figures, the geometric shapes 330 00:17:59,211 --> 00:18:03,215 and the diverse animals, such as birds, monkeys, spiders, 331 00:18:03,215 --> 00:18:05,551 hummingbirds, and even a whale, are 332 00:18:05,551 --> 00:18:09,488 scattered over an area which covers several kilometers. 333 00:18:09,488 --> 00:18:11,824 Each figure varies in size. 334 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:15,661 They can measure just a few meters or hundreds. 335 00:18:15,661 --> 00:18:17,930 According to some studies, the figures 336 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:20,866 could have served as an astronomical calendar, 337 00:18:20,866 --> 00:18:22,835 because several of them are positioned 338 00:18:22,835 --> 00:18:26,072 to indicate equinoxes or solstices, 339 00:18:26,072 --> 00:18:29,842 as well as the movement of planets and the moon. 340 00:18:29,842 --> 00:18:32,745 Thanks to the absence of rainfall in the area 341 00:18:32,745 --> 00:18:35,014 and the mineral composition of the terrain, 342 00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:38,951 the traces remain almost unchanged to this day. 343 00:18:42,555 --> 00:18:45,624 Near this area, in the region of Palpa, 344 00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:48,861 the team was taken to a secret place, 345 00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:52,465 where Mario promised to have a big surprise for them. 346 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:54,834 From the beginning, Mario refused 347 00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:57,203 to give the exact location of the tomb. 348 00:18:57,203 --> 00:18:59,839 However, if an agreement was reached, 349 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:03,075 he would be willing to show them a larger, unique mummy, which 350 00:19:03,075 --> 00:19:04,510 they had discussed. 351 00:19:04,510 --> 00:19:07,613 He took the group to the top floor of his house, 352 00:19:07,613 --> 00:19:10,416 where after more negotiations, he finally 353 00:19:10,416 --> 00:19:12,952 agreed to bring the piece. 354 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:17,890 {\an8}>> We have a very important mission here in Peru. 355 00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:19,425 I came here together with a group 356 00:19:19,425 --> 00:19:23,629 of scientists, professionals, journalists, 357 00:19:23,629 --> 00:19:29,402 because we have more supposed to see 358 00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:35,641 maybe one of the most important discovery of the 21st century. 359 00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:38,544 >> Mario placed the box in front of the team. 360 00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:41,113 Inside was the mummy-- 361 00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:44,650 life-sized and in the fetal position. 362 00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:47,086 It looked almost human, except for 363 00:19:47,086 --> 00:19:49,822 some remarkable differences. 364 00:19:49,822 --> 00:19:53,959 The mummy had only three fingers with four phalanges 365 00:19:53,959 --> 00:19:56,495 in its hands and feet. 366 00:19:56,495 --> 00:19:59,932 The head had an elongated shape. 367 00:19:59,932 --> 00:20:02,234 It was covered with a white powder. 368 00:20:02,234 --> 00:20:06,705 Unlike the Egyptian mummies, this was a desiccated body, 369 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:08,874 apparently by natural methods. 370 00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:13,946 It showed no signs of decay and was in excellent condition. 371 00:20:13,946 --> 00:20:17,616 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 372 00:20:17,616 --> 00:20:21,821 >> We have before us a body of anthropomorphic structure. 373 00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:26,459 It has a head, neck, thoracic cage, pelvis, 374 00:20:26,459 --> 00:20:28,994 and upper and lower limbs. 375 00:20:28,994 --> 00:20:33,632 Specifically, in the head, we notice a well-articulated jaw 376 00:20:33,632 --> 00:20:34,333 bone. 377 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:38,471 No oracles, but auditory canals on both sides. 378 00:20:40,973 --> 00:20:44,877 >> It can change the consciousness of humanity 379 00:20:44,877 --> 00:20:46,846 as a whole. 380 00:20:46,846 --> 00:20:50,749 And all our concepts about history, about development, 381 00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:52,618 those are just concepts. 382 00:20:52,618 --> 00:20:56,655 And this opens up absolutely a new page of history. 383 00:20:56,655 --> 00:21:01,627 No doubts that it is tremendous discovery. 384 00:21:01,627 --> 00:21:04,430 >> The piece was named Maria. 385 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:06,198 The team took samples of the body 386 00:21:06,198 --> 00:21:09,735 to be tested in different laboratories in Russia, 387 00:21:09,735 --> 00:21:13,305 the United States, Canada, and Mexico. 388 00:21:13,305 --> 00:21:17,409 The X-rays and topographies that were performed on Maria 389 00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:19,945 showed surprising results and confirmed 390 00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:24,016 that it was an organic being with a bone structure. 391 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:26,452 Konstantin showed some of the scans 392 00:21:26,452 --> 00:21:31,056 {\an8}to the head of image analysis at a medical institute in Russia. 393 00:21:31,056 --> 00:21:34,827 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 394 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:37,263 {\an8}>> We performed a CAT scan of a mature individual, 395 00:21:37,263 --> 00:21:40,833 a mummy referred to as Maria. 396 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:43,969 It is the skeleton of a person with an anomaly. 397 00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,405 It's three-fingered. 398 00:21:46,405 --> 00:21:48,874 If we consider the traditional notion, 399 00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:50,676 the mummification process involves 400 00:21:50,676 --> 00:21:52,945 removal of internal organs. 401 00:21:52,945 --> 00:21:55,948 So technically, this is not a mummy. 402 00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:59,718 But if we consider that the body was mummified naturally, 403 00:21:59,718 --> 00:22:02,621 meaning the organs were simply not removed, 404 00:22:02,621 --> 00:22:05,724 this is a skeleton that is very well preserved. 405 00:22:05,724 --> 00:22:10,529 And we were able to clearly see many details in our CAT scans. 406 00:22:10,529 --> 00:22:13,199 All the structures and bones in the main body 407 00:22:13,199 --> 00:22:17,203 are visible in the analyzed tomography. 408 00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:20,206 >> If I understand correctly that some organs remained, 409 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,975 does this prove that it is a real body? 410 00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:26,946 >> I would say yes, because on scans of the back of the skull, 411 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:30,883 we saw structures that are less dense than bone structures 412 00:22:30,883 --> 00:22:35,421 and most likely are hydrated remnants of the brain. 413 00:22:35,421 --> 00:22:39,058 >> Gaia also found a radiologist at a hospital in Denver, 414 00:22:39,058 --> 00:22:42,194 Colorado, to take a look at the scans. 415 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:45,998 {\an8}>> I am very curious to see what these images look like. 416 00:22:45,998 --> 00:22:49,301 I think what I can offer, looking at the images, 417 00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:53,539 looking at bones all day long and having expertise in bone, 418 00:22:53,539 --> 00:22:57,943 the bones of any mammalian skeleton, 419 00:22:57,943 --> 00:23:01,847 they are incredibly complex, which is a good thing for this. 420 00:23:01,847 --> 00:23:04,950 Because they are going to be extremely hard to reproduce. 421 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:08,420 So I think we'll be able to tell if these are truly 422 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:10,456 authentic bones. 423 00:23:10,456 --> 00:23:14,426 Looking at this skeleton, obviously we 424 00:23:14,426 --> 00:23:17,463 have a fairly humanoid-looking bone. 425 00:23:17,463 --> 00:23:19,965 We've got the eyes that are facing forward. 426 00:23:19,965 --> 00:23:23,335 We've got the mandible with, you can see, 427 00:23:23,335 --> 00:23:25,971 rows of teeth both above and below. 428 00:23:25,971 --> 00:23:29,008 The shape of the skull is interesting. 429 00:23:29,008 --> 00:23:34,546 It's very elongated, an atypical appearance of a human skull 430 00:23:34,546 --> 00:23:36,949 like you and I know. 431 00:23:36,949 --> 00:23:38,817 Looking at the rest of the skeleton, 432 00:23:38,817 --> 00:23:41,920 we have a thoracic spine that's holding the ribs, 433 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,622 or your rib cage of the chest. 434 00:23:43,622 --> 00:23:47,660 All of that looks very humanoid, as well. 435 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:50,963 Femurs-- we have the tibia and the fibula. 436 00:23:50,963 --> 00:23:52,831 All of that is pretty typical. 437 00:23:52,831 --> 00:23:54,533 And then even in the forearm here, 438 00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:56,969 you have bones called the radius and the ulna. 439 00:23:56,969 --> 00:24:00,506 Now, what's interesting here is we 440 00:24:00,506 --> 00:24:04,076 see there is a collection of bones here. 441 00:24:04,076 --> 00:24:07,046 This is called the carpus of the wrist. 442 00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:11,950 That's a typical appearance, but as we move outward, 443 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:17,423 we're seeing really three distinct fingers, 444 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,124 which is fascinating. 445 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:24,129 The skull-- I don't see any suture lines. 446 00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:26,932 There's no bones that are separate in the skull. 447 00:24:26,932 --> 00:24:28,467 They all appear fused. 448 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:32,971 So this appears to be a solid structure. 449 00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:34,973 In the hand, coming from the carpus, 450 00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:39,945 not only do we see three, and only three, fingers, 451 00:24:39,945 --> 00:24:43,415 but you have enlargement of the bones, as well. 452 00:24:43,415 --> 00:24:46,819 So we're seeing the same thing happening in the feet. 453 00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:49,755 The metacarpals and the phalanges-- metacarpals 454 00:24:49,755 --> 00:24:51,957 are in the palm of the hand. 455 00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:53,325 Phalanges are the fingers. 456 00:24:53,325 --> 00:24:55,627 So if we look at where the metacarpals would lie, 457 00:24:55,627 --> 00:24:58,430 these are very thick bones. 458 00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:03,035 They're much thicker than bones that you would find in my hand 459 00:25:03,035 --> 00:25:03,969 or in your hand. 460 00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:07,840 Same thing with the phalanges, as well, or the finger bones 461 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,075 are very robust. 462 00:25:10,075 --> 00:25:14,446 >> If the CAT scans and X-rays proved it was organic bone 463 00:25:14,446 --> 00:25:16,682 and the bones didn't seem to be altered, 464 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:20,619 could this be evidence of a new species? 465 00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:22,955 The team didn't want to jump to conclusions. 466 00:25:22,955 --> 00:25:26,759 So they waited for the samples to give them more evidence. 467 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:28,961 The first tests done with the samples 468 00:25:28,961 --> 00:25:32,197 was to determine what the white powder was. 469 00:25:32,197 --> 00:25:33,999 The white powder that was coating 470 00:25:33,999 --> 00:25:37,836 the bodies, said to be plaster, was actually a substance 471 00:25:37,836 --> 00:25:39,972 called diatomaceous earth. 472 00:25:39,972 --> 00:25:44,243 This diatomaceous earth is a fossilized microscopic algae 473 00:25:44,243 --> 00:25:48,113 that formed on the Earth during the Pleistocene era. 474 00:25:48,113 --> 00:25:52,050 This powder has desiccant and absorbent qualities 475 00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:54,887 and can also function as a natural fungicide 476 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:58,090 and insecticide, which certainly helped preserve the body 477 00:25:58,090 --> 00:26:01,527 and kept it free of external pathogens. 478 00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:04,830 Another fact is that there are deposits of this substance 479 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:06,965 very close to the Nazca area. 480 00:26:06,965 --> 00:26:10,836 And also, this substance naturally occurs in some caves. 481 00:26:10,836 --> 00:26:13,205 But what does it mean that the bodies 482 00:26:13,205 --> 00:26:15,307 are covered with this powder? 483 00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:18,076 Could the bodies have been placed in these caves 484 00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:19,945 with diatomaceous earth? 485 00:26:19,945 --> 00:26:21,547 Or could this substance have been 486 00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:26,318 placed on the body in an unknown ritual? 487 00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:28,454 At this point in the investigation, 488 00:26:28,454 --> 00:26:32,224 the team was informed of the discovery of two more bodies. 489 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:36,295 It was a headless body, about 60 centimeters in length, 490 00:26:36,295 --> 00:26:40,966 and the body of a baby with the same characteristics as Maria. 491 00:26:40,966 --> 00:26:43,402 Both were covered with a white powder. 492 00:26:43,402 --> 00:26:45,737 According to Mario, these two bodies 493 00:26:45,737 --> 00:26:48,207 were found in the same tomb where 494 00:26:48,207 --> 00:26:49,942 the others were discovered. 495 00:26:49,942 --> 00:26:53,345 The baby's body was named Wawita, which means 496 00:26:53,345 --> 00:26:55,848 baby in the Quechua dialect. 497 00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:58,016 The headless body in a seated position 498 00:26:58,016 --> 00:27:00,953 was given the name Victoria. 499 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:04,490 The Wawita topography showed the mummy of a child 500 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:07,493 with a formed skeleton in the fetal position. 501 00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:09,962 Both hands had three fingers each. 502 00:27:09,962 --> 00:27:12,931 But there were signs of finger removal. 503 00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:16,401 The right hand had four visible bones of the metacarpus. 504 00:27:16,401 --> 00:27:20,072 The left had three bones of the metacarpus and signs 505 00:27:20,072 --> 00:27:21,640 of bone removal. 506 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,910 Was this body tampered with by Mario and his team? 507 00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:28,881 Or could the body have been modified hundreds of years ago? 508 00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:32,818 And if this was the case, what was the reason? 509 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:35,954 The team decided to focus on the other bodies, of which they 510 00:27:35,954 --> 00:27:39,424 could not find evidence of bone removal or tampering, 511 00:27:39,424 --> 00:27:42,628 because test results were still coming in. 512 00:27:42,628 --> 00:27:46,465 By now, the results of the carbon-14 dating study 513 00:27:46,465 --> 00:27:50,035 conducted on Maria by the laboratory of the Universidad 514 00:27:50,035 --> 00:27:53,205 Nacional Autonoma de Mexico were received. 515 00:27:53,205 --> 00:27:58,610 The results dated the mummy to be 1,770 years old. 516 00:27:58,610 --> 00:28:01,747 This placed it in the period of the Nazca culture 517 00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:06,952 flourishing, thus proving that the mummy was not modern. 518 00:28:06,952 --> 00:28:10,889 Gaia also did their own testing at a facility in the United 519 00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:12,624 States called Beta. 520 00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:15,961 And the numbers came out to be the same for Maria-- 521 00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:19,197 approximately 1,700 years old. 522 00:28:19,197 --> 00:28:25,203 The smaller body, Victoria, was dated around 800 AD. 523 00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,639 But there was still more testing to do 524 00:28:27,639 --> 00:28:31,076 on the bodies that would prove or disprove what 525 00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:33,211 these bodies might be made of. 526 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:37,683 Samples were taken again from the bodies for DNA testing. 527 00:28:37,683 --> 00:28:40,752 The team was hoping to see if the DNA matched 528 00:28:40,752 --> 00:28:45,624 any modern human species or any other known biological species 529 00:28:45,624 --> 00:28:47,192 on the planet. 530 00:28:47,192 --> 00:28:50,996 This result could help decide if there was a serious case 531 00:28:50,996 --> 00:28:53,298 to keep investigating. 532 00:28:53,298 --> 00:28:57,135 Meanwhile, the null answer given by the Ministry of Culture 533 00:28:57,135 --> 00:29:00,505 and the constant attacks by Peruvian anthropologists 534 00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:04,276 and archaeologists were discouraging for the team. 535 00:29:04,276 --> 00:29:08,947 This adverse climate hindered investigations. 536 00:29:08,947 --> 00:29:11,516 Members of the team reached out to archaeologists 537 00:29:11,516 --> 00:29:14,953 to come look at the bodies and decide for themselves, 538 00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:16,955 but they refused. 539 00:29:16,955 --> 00:29:19,625 Instead, many attempts by these parties 540 00:29:19,625 --> 00:29:22,628 were made to discredit any information surfacing 541 00:29:22,628 --> 00:29:24,429 about the mummies. 542 00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:27,699 In tests and research carried out by the team, 543 00:29:27,699 --> 00:29:32,070 the participation of Ministry scientists still, to this day, 544 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:34,473 has been non-existent. 545 00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:36,942 Journalist Jaime Maussan sent a letter 546 00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:39,044 to the Peruvian Minister of Culture 547 00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:42,414 to request a meeting in which he could talk about the findings 548 00:29:42,414 --> 00:29:44,950 and results of the investigations carried out 549 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:46,818 thus far. 550 00:29:46,818 --> 00:29:48,920 He hoped that the ministry would join 551 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,555 in the research of something that 552 00:29:50,555 --> 00:29:54,693 could be a great archaeological discovery and to allow 553 00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:57,429 them to revise the evidence firsthand. 554 00:29:57,429 --> 00:30:01,133 But the result was not what he expected. 555 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:03,301 >> Very disappointed. 556 00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:07,973 We expected to be treated by the Minister of Culture 557 00:30:07,973 --> 00:30:09,641 here in Peru. 558 00:30:09,641 --> 00:30:13,845 Unfortunately, they sent someone from second or third level 559 00:30:13,845 --> 00:30:17,449 to tell us that we should send an email requesting 560 00:30:17,449 --> 00:30:20,952 for something like this. 561 00:30:20,952 --> 00:30:21,920 It's very unfortunate. 562 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,623 I think they don't have any interest 563 00:30:24,623 --> 00:30:27,993 to cooperate and to do any kind of investigation 564 00:30:27,993 --> 00:30:30,662 around this case. 565 00:30:30,662 --> 00:30:35,967 It's very unfortunate to find the truth for everyone-- 566 00:30:35,967 --> 00:30:40,038 not just here in Peru, but around the world. 567 00:30:40,038 --> 00:30:43,875 >> But the team carried on to find some kind of truth. 568 00:30:43,875 --> 00:30:46,044 The samples that were taken by Konstantin 569 00:30:46,044 --> 00:30:50,082 Korotkov on the last visit were tested in Russia. 570 00:30:50,082 --> 00:30:53,285 The first DNA analysis performed in Russia 571 00:30:53,285 --> 00:30:55,554 by the Institute of Analytical Chemistry 572 00:30:55,554 --> 00:30:57,956 at the University of Saint Petersburg 573 00:30:57,956 --> 00:30:59,891 took just over a month. 574 00:30:59,891 --> 00:31:03,962 Dr. Mikhail Aseev oversaw the DNA extraction, 575 00:31:03,962 --> 00:31:07,933 and the results showed that it was an organic specimen that 576 00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:12,137 once had life, specifically of a female creature, 577 00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:16,308 because the DNA included the X chromosome. 578 00:31:16,308 --> 00:31:19,878 {\an8}>> When our scientists in Saint Petersburg, 579 00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:25,951 in one of the top laboratories, was able to make DNA testing 580 00:31:25,951 --> 00:31:27,819 of this big body. 581 00:31:27,819 --> 00:31:32,758 And this DNA have only X chromosomes. 582 00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:34,659 It means that this is a lady. 583 00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:37,129 This is a female. 584 00:31:37,129 --> 00:31:39,631 Now, of course, they need to make next level 585 00:31:39,631 --> 00:31:42,634 of, next stage of research. 586 00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:46,037 They need to make sequencing of this DNA. 587 00:31:46,037 --> 00:31:51,076 It means to define genome and define all genes 588 00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:55,947 and compare those genes with existing libraries of genes. 589 00:31:55,947 --> 00:31:59,818 >> From the first results of the DNA test practiced on Maria, 590 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:01,486 new questions arose. 591 00:32:01,486 --> 00:32:06,625 Although it was an organic body more than 1,700 years old, 592 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,860 the three-fingered hands and feet 593 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:11,296 still needed to be tested to prove 594 00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:13,532 that they were real, as well. 595 00:32:13,532 --> 00:32:17,035 Besides, more samples needed to be taken off of the other three 596 00:32:17,035 --> 00:32:19,971 bodies and from Wawita. 597 00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:23,041 It would be necessary to remove tissues from the mummy's feet, 598 00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:26,945 hands, and body again to check to see if they, indeed, 599 00:32:26,945 --> 00:32:29,014 belonged to the same individual. 600 00:32:29,014 --> 00:32:32,918 But convincing Mario to allow taking new samples 601 00:32:32,918 --> 00:32:35,420 would not be so easy. 602 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:37,255 At first, the fear that the bodies 603 00:32:37,255 --> 00:32:41,193 could be severely damaged made him profoundly refuse any more 604 00:32:41,193 --> 00:32:43,762 sample extractions. 605 00:32:43,762 --> 00:32:45,330 The team explained the need to take 606 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:48,667 those samples to verify that all parts of the body 607 00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,203 belong to the same subject. 608 00:32:51,203 --> 00:32:54,973 An arduous negotiation was necessary to convince him 609 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:56,641 of the new collection of samples, 610 00:32:56,641 --> 00:33:01,947 but he finally agreed, only for the bodies of Maria, Wawita, 611 00:33:01,947 --> 00:33:03,415 and Victoria. 612 00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:08,553 Josephina and Alberto were off limits. 613 00:33:08,553 --> 00:33:10,956 According to Mario, three more bodies 614 00:33:10,956 --> 00:33:13,758 with similar characteristics to the previous ones 615 00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:15,827 were discovered in a nearby cave. 616 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:19,664 These three bodies, close to 60 centimeters in length, 617 00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,534 also had three-fingered hands and feet 618 00:33:22,534 --> 00:33:24,202 with an elongated skulls. 619 00:33:24,202 --> 00:33:26,671 The three bodies were given a nickname-- 620 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:27,973 The Family. 621 00:33:27,973 --> 00:33:30,842 They were covered with the same white powder 622 00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:32,210 as the previous ones-- 623 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:34,679 diatomaceous earth. 624 00:33:34,679 --> 00:33:36,548 But where was this tomb? 625 00:33:36,548 --> 00:33:40,819 The team wondered if they were ever going to see this cave 626 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:43,655 and how many bodies actually existed in what Mario 627 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:46,958 referred to as a large tomb. 628 00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:50,695 They, just like the archaeological experts in Peru, 629 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:53,999 wanted to know that an actual tomb or location of the bodies 630 00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:54,966 existed. 631 00:33:57,969 --> 00:34:01,740 To summarize, with these additional three mummies, 632 00:34:01,740 --> 00:34:04,075 six bodies thus far had been presented 633 00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:08,046 that were approximately 60 centimeters in length. 634 00:34:08,046 --> 00:34:10,282 {\an8}Three of them had been given names. 635 00:34:10,282 --> 00:34:15,120 {\an8}They were Alberto, Josephina, and Victoria. 636 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,956 Two of the mummies had human characteristics-- 637 00:34:17,956 --> 00:34:22,761 a life size known as Maria and the baby they called Wawita. 638 00:34:22,761 --> 00:34:26,665 Also discovered were three three-fingered hands 639 00:34:26,665 --> 00:34:27,999 and two heads. 640 00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:30,535 It is not certain that these are all the pieces that 641 00:34:30,535 --> 00:34:34,839 exist because of Mario's inconsistent accounts. 642 00:34:34,839 --> 00:34:38,276 He sometimes did mention that there could be many more. 643 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:42,047 Even Thierry Jamin suspects that some of those pieces 644 00:34:42,047 --> 00:34:45,216 may be moved out of Peru. 645 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:47,419 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 646 00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,323 {\an8}>> Mario got in touch with me in January, 647 00:34:51,323 --> 00:34:54,993 and we met in Bolivia in the city of La Paz with a lot 648 00:34:54,993 --> 00:35:00,298 of secrecy, because he is a very mistrusting person. 649 00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:03,301 We sat down, and I tried to convince him not 650 00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:06,638 to sell any of the artifacts, telling him 651 00:35:06,638 --> 00:35:10,742 that his name would go down in history as the man who 652 00:35:10,742 --> 00:35:12,410 made the great discovery. 653 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:14,346 But he would not listen. 654 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:16,681 He only cares about the money. 655 00:35:16,681 --> 00:35:20,618 Mario is a huaquero, a professional tomb robber 656 00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:24,622 for over 25 years with high-level contacts 657 00:35:24,622 --> 00:35:28,193 from Brazilian politicians to Peruvian heads of state 658 00:35:28,193 --> 00:35:31,997 and renowned archaeologists here in Peru. 659 00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:35,100 >> Could Mario have been selling to the highest bidder? 660 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:40,205 And if this were true, how was this jeopardizing the case? 661 00:35:40,205 --> 00:35:43,241 Could the stalling by the Peruvian government or negative 662 00:35:43,241 --> 00:35:45,076 press provided by people convinced 663 00:35:45,076 --> 00:35:49,514 it was a hoax actually have aided in a more sinister plan 664 00:35:49,514 --> 00:35:51,216 to cover it up? 665 00:35:51,216 --> 00:35:55,420 The team could only suspect these things without proof. 666 00:35:55,420 --> 00:35:59,958 In the meantime, they need to continue gathering data. 667 00:35:59,958 --> 00:36:03,528 Samples taken from the different areas of Maria's body, 668 00:36:03,528 --> 00:36:07,432 especially the feet, hands, pelvis, and under the arm, 669 00:36:07,432 --> 00:36:10,335 were analyzed by DNA tests at the University 670 00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:11,970 of Saint Petersburg. 671 00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:15,640 The tests connected the tissues from all these areas 672 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,975 to the same body. 673 00:36:16,975 --> 00:36:20,078 It disproved the theory of some Peruvian archaeologists 674 00:36:20,078 --> 00:36:24,015 that it was a body built with parts of different creatures. 675 00:36:24,015 --> 00:36:29,988 The test also revealed something very interesting. 676 00:36:29,988 --> 00:36:33,258 >> Please tell me, what progress have you made to analyze 677 00:36:33,258 --> 00:36:34,426 our specimens? 678 00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:37,429 {\an8}>> We've carried out an elemental analysis of these 679 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:38,463 {\an8}specimens. 680 00:36:38,463 --> 00:36:41,833 And generally speaking, the data that we received 681 00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:44,636 allows us to make a conclusion that it 682 00:36:44,636 --> 00:36:48,406 is an ordinary set of elements, except for cadmium. 683 00:36:48,406 --> 00:36:50,942 We have found cadmium chloride on the surface 684 00:36:50,942 --> 00:36:52,343 of these specimens. 685 00:36:52,343 --> 00:36:54,846 Actually, the specimens were obviously 686 00:36:54,846 --> 00:36:59,617 covered with cadmium chloride and diatomaceous earth. 687 00:36:59,617 --> 00:37:03,088 >> As far as I understand, cadmium chloride is not found 688 00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:04,489 at all in nature. 689 00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:07,425 >> It needs to be acidized, extracted, 690 00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:12,697 then transformed into a soluble form, into cadmium chloride. 691 00:37:12,697 --> 00:37:15,633 It also needs to be purified, for sure. 692 00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:18,970 It is a complicated procedure. 693 00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:22,507 >> So it is unobtainable or impossible for the primitive 694 00:37:22,507 --> 00:37:23,541 civilizations? 695 00:37:23,541 --> 00:37:26,411 Is this correct? 696 00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:29,247 >> If they do not have concentrated acids and simple 697 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:32,984 chemical reactors, then it is really impossible. 698 00:37:32,984 --> 00:37:35,820 >> It is clear that all the subjects, 699 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:39,624 they were processed with cadmium chloride. 700 00:37:39,624 --> 00:37:42,827 {\an8}And those elements may be created only 701 00:37:42,827 --> 00:37:45,196 {\an8}by highly developed civilization. 702 00:37:45,196 --> 00:37:51,236 It's not simple people living in Nazca area, different tribes, 703 00:37:51,236 --> 00:37:54,205 who was able to make this chemical process. 704 00:37:54,205 --> 00:37:56,841 Our European civilization came to this process 705 00:37:56,841 --> 00:37:59,010 only in the mid-19th century. 706 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:01,079 Now we use a lot of cadmium chloride 707 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:05,817 in our civilisation to preserve different subjects, 708 00:38:05,817 --> 00:38:09,454 because this is the best preserver that 709 00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:13,958 kills all bacteria, all contaminations and viruses. 710 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:20,965 So we use it in our modern life, but it doesn't exist in nature. 711 00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:25,203 >> Unusual discovery, but what did it mean? 712 00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:28,973 As the team waited for more specific DNA results, 713 00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:32,610 Mario agreed to take some people to the cave. 714 00:38:32,610 --> 00:38:37,749 He invited Peruvian journalists Jois Mantilla, Thierry Jamin, 715 00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:42,654 his team, and Dr. Konstantin Korotkov to show them the site. 716 00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:44,822 They departed from Palpa and entered 717 00:38:44,822 --> 00:38:49,627 an area of arid mountains, where it would be easy to get lost. 718 00:38:49,627 --> 00:38:53,965 After a few kilometers, they descended from Mario's old car 719 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:57,135 and began a hike along the rocky path. 720 00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:59,971 Later, the trail disappeared, and the group 721 00:38:59,971 --> 00:39:04,042 had to climb, making their way between the rocks. 722 00:39:04,042 --> 00:39:07,278 An hour later, they arrived at the cave. 723 00:39:07,278 --> 00:39:09,847 The entrance was covered by stones, 724 00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:14,953 which helped it go unnoticed, except to Mario's expert eyes. 725 00:39:14,953 --> 00:39:17,956 After visiting the cave, it was clear 726 00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:21,826 that this cave was covered in diatomaceous earth. 727 00:39:21,826 --> 00:39:25,129 But could this be the actual cave? 728 00:39:25,129 --> 00:39:29,867 {\an8}>> In those mountains, there are no grass, no vegetation, 729 00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:31,402 {\an8}nothing alive. 730 00:39:31,402 --> 00:39:33,071 So they're totally dead. 731 00:39:33,071 --> 00:39:34,339 And it's a big contrast. 732 00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:36,975 You look there, you see beautiful place 733 00:39:36,975 --> 00:39:38,943 with a lot of trees and everything. 734 00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:42,747 You look here, you see only rocks. 735 00:39:42,747 --> 00:39:46,618 When we came to the cave, the cave itself, it's not so big. 736 00:39:46,618 --> 00:39:48,820 But it's not like a cave which had 737 00:39:48,820 --> 00:39:52,423 been used by ancient people, where they can make fire, 738 00:39:52,423 --> 00:39:53,558 where you can sit together. 739 00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:54,292 No. 740 00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:55,526 It's just a little cave. 741 00:39:55,526 --> 00:39:58,830 All this cave was covered with this dust. 742 00:39:58,830 --> 00:40:01,999 It was not only on the floor, but all around, 743 00:40:01,999 --> 00:40:05,236 so it was, again, clear that it's natural material. 744 00:40:05,236 --> 00:40:08,706 First of all, I don't believe in anything Mario tells. 745 00:40:08,706 --> 00:40:12,410 It's clear for me, clear, that the cave we were taken, 746 00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,512 it's not the only cave. 747 00:40:14,512 --> 00:40:15,847 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 748 00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:19,550 {\an8}>> There was a lot of controversy surrounding 749 00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:22,320 {\an8}the location of the site as different groups of tomb 750 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,989 raiders pointed to different locations, 751 00:40:24,989 --> 00:40:28,826 none of which corresponded to what had been described. 752 00:40:28,826 --> 00:40:34,265 Mario finally decided to contact us and show us the place. 753 00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,334 Getting there was very difficult. 754 00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:37,969 Only someone with local knowledge 755 00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:41,639 would be able to find it, because to the untrained eye, 756 00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:44,409 there was no way of telling the entrance to the cave, 757 00:40:44,409 --> 00:40:48,012 as it was covered by small stones. 758 00:40:48,012 --> 00:40:51,082 When we got to the place, we did not believe it, 759 00:40:51,082 --> 00:40:53,951 because we had been told it was a citadel with walls 760 00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:56,287 and a gate, many chambers with inscriptions, 761 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:57,455 and there was none of that. 762 00:41:00,825 --> 00:41:04,696 We were disappointed, because it was not the story we had heard. 763 00:41:04,696 --> 00:41:08,633 I was upset, confused, and disappointed all at once, 764 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:11,002 because Mario is the sole source of the story. 765 00:41:14,038 --> 00:41:16,307 In journalists work, you cross-reference 766 00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:19,410 several accounts to find the truth on a story. 767 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:21,713 But when you have only one source, 768 00:41:21,713 --> 00:41:24,048 only one person to tell you that story, 769 00:41:24,048 --> 00:41:26,951 you either believe them or you don't. 770 00:41:26,951 --> 00:41:30,221 If the bodies are real, the story can be real. 771 00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:34,625 But in this case, his original story did not match. 772 00:41:34,625 --> 00:41:38,029 Having said that, several features did match. 773 00:41:38,029 --> 00:41:41,766 The smell on the cave was similar to that of the mummies. 774 00:41:41,766 --> 00:41:43,968 The space distribution also matched. 775 00:41:43,968 --> 00:41:48,306 We saw the exact location where Wawita, Maria, and the family 776 00:41:48,306 --> 00:41:51,409 of two-foot beings were found. 777 00:41:51,409 --> 00:41:53,077 Those calculations make it likely 778 00:41:53,077 --> 00:41:56,848 that this was the place where the mummies were found. 779 00:41:56,848 --> 00:42:02,253 But there were definitely no ruins or ancient citadel. 780 00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:05,323 >> This fact was a disappointment for the team. 781 00:42:05,323 --> 00:42:10,328 The tomb, so frequently referred to, did not exist as such. 782 00:42:10,328 --> 00:42:13,698 However, the cave shown coincided in many ways 783 00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:16,968 with some of the characteristics found in the bodies. 784 00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,404 Therefore, despite the disappointment, 785 00:42:19,404 --> 00:42:21,239 it was plausible that the mummies could 786 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,740 have come from that place. 787 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:28,513 More genetic results came trickling in. 788 00:42:28,513 --> 00:42:32,984 There were DNA results from Mexico and from Russia. 789 00:42:32,984 --> 00:42:33,985 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 790 00:42:33,985 --> 00:42:36,821 {\an8}>> The sequencing process itself is run on a device called 791 00:42:36,821 --> 00:42:38,222 {\an8}the genome sequencer. 792 00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:40,958 In our case, we use two sequencers-- 793 00:42:40,958 --> 00:42:44,529 one for the primary analysis, MiSeq sequencer 794 00:42:44,529 --> 00:42:47,965 and HiSeq sequencer-- for comparative analysis 795 00:42:47,965 --> 00:42:49,967 of the genomic DNA. 796 00:42:49,967 --> 00:42:52,970 A great amount of data is generated after sequencing. 797 00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:57,508 This data is generated in the machine. 798 00:42:57,508 --> 00:42:59,343 After this data has been generated, 799 00:42:59,343 --> 00:43:01,546 they are transferred to a computer. 800 00:43:01,546 --> 00:43:04,849 And then our colleague, Alexei, a bioinformatician, 801 00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:07,418 used them to analyze the data. 802 00:43:07,418 --> 00:43:11,222 He found out that there were actually ancient samples, 803 00:43:11,222 --> 00:43:13,991 and we could yield the ancient DNA, and we have it. 804 00:43:13,991 --> 00:43:15,927 The fact that this ancient DNA has 805 00:43:15,927 --> 00:43:18,496 a lot of variations that are alternative to the standard 806 00:43:18,496 --> 00:43:20,832 genome is quite interesting. 807 00:43:20,832 --> 00:43:23,000 In other words, it tells us that we actually 808 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,469 have unique and new data. 809 00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:31,909 >> The latest results from the DNA studies of the bodies have 810 00:43:31,909 --> 00:43:36,747 shown surprising results from Maria and Wawita. 811 00:43:36,747 --> 00:43:39,417 This means that according to the report from the DNA 812 00:43:39,417 --> 00:43:42,487 samples taken from several areas of the bodies, 813 00:43:42,487 --> 00:43:45,723 they were able to get approximately 23.8% 814 00:43:45,723 --> 00:43:52,697 from Maria and 25.6% DNA from Wawita of human-like DNA. 815 00:43:52,697 --> 00:43:56,200 But none of that matched to modern human DNA. 816 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,835 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 817 00:43:59,337 --> 00:44:02,006 {\an8}>> The sample was analyzed to determine whether or not it 818 00:44:02,006 --> 00:44:05,843 {\an8}contained human DNA, which was one of the hypotheses that 819 00:44:05,843 --> 00:44:09,547 could explain these strange bodies. 820 00:44:09,547 --> 00:44:11,949 That possibility was explored, and the results 821 00:44:11,949 --> 00:44:15,620 were around a 10% match in strict conditions. 822 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,755 And even relaxing some of the parameters, 823 00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:22,193 we could not get a 100% match with human DNA. 824 00:44:22,193 --> 00:44:25,863 The analysis included a vast array of species. 825 00:44:25,863 --> 00:44:27,632 One of the software programs we used, 826 00:44:27,632 --> 00:44:30,001 in particular, performs comparisons 827 00:44:30,001 --> 00:44:32,069 with more than a million species, 828 00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:35,740 which allows us to approximate as much as possible the sample 829 00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:37,942 with the DNA of all currently known species. 830 00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:42,947 Some species were a higher match, 831 00:44:42,947 --> 00:44:46,651 some plants and bovine DNA, but still in very small portions. 832 00:44:49,954 --> 00:44:52,924 I have to say that this sample contains DNA 833 00:44:52,924 --> 00:44:54,959 that we currently don't know. 834 00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:58,095 It could be from an organism that has not been studied. 835 00:44:58,095 --> 00:45:01,632 Perhaps there was some microbiological contamination 836 00:45:01,632 --> 00:45:02,967 of the samples. 837 00:45:02,967 --> 00:45:06,837 But it could also be original DNA from these bodies. 838 00:45:06,837 --> 00:45:09,206 That means that these bodies could belong to a previously 839 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:12,276 unknown species. 840 00:45:12,276 --> 00:45:16,013 >> The genetic results were also showed to William Brown, 841 00:45:16,013 --> 00:45:18,950 a biophysicist from Southern California, 842 00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:24,221 and his take on the tests were very interesting. 843 00:45:24,221 --> 00:45:32,964 {\an8}>> Of the DNA that was isolated, only 25% of the total matched 844 00:45:32,964 --> 00:45:36,867 any known human gene. 845 00:45:36,867 --> 00:45:41,973 So that means that 75% of this DNA 846 00:45:41,973 --> 00:45:47,612 is not matching any known human reference sequence. 847 00:45:47,612 --> 00:45:54,619 And this is pretty rigorous, because there's, like, 848 00:45:54,619 --> 00:45:57,421 the Thousand Human Genome Project, where 849 00:45:57,421 --> 00:46:01,058 they have done whole genome sequencing of over 2,000 850 00:46:01,058 --> 00:46:04,962 individuals from every continent on Earth 851 00:46:04,962 --> 00:46:10,501 and compiled kind of like a average human reference genome. 852 00:46:10,501 --> 00:46:14,905 And so you take these sequences isolated from the sample 853 00:46:14,905 --> 00:46:18,943 with this being and you go going you compare them 854 00:46:18,943 --> 00:46:21,512 to that human reference genome data. 855 00:46:21,512 --> 00:46:25,883 And only 25% match up. 856 00:46:25,883 --> 00:46:28,119 75% don't. 857 00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:31,956 >> DNA sequencing can take months or even years, 858 00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:34,759 depending on the questions asked. 859 00:46:34,759 --> 00:46:37,028 Given the small samples the team had, 860 00:46:37,028 --> 00:46:39,830 they wanted to ask the first question-- 861 00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:44,402 could this DNA match any known modern DNA? 862 00:46:44,402 --> 00:46:47,972 And that answer came out as no from the lab 863 00:46:47,972 --> 00:46:52,943 the Mexico team used in Canada and also the team in Russia. 864 00:46:52,943 --> 00:46:56,881 Is it normal for all labs in different countries 865 00:46:56,881 --> 00:46:58,549 to come up with the same results? 866 00:47:01,118 --> 00:47:02,219 {\an8}>> I'm Dr. Doug Taylor. 867 00:47:02,219 --> 00:47:06,057 {\an8}I'm a professor of biotechnology here at Harrisburg University. 868 00:47:06,057 --> 00:47:09,660 My background is I have a PhD in biochemistry and molecular 869 00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:10,528 biology. 870 00:47:10,528 --> 00:47:13,197 When you think about any parameters that 871 00:47:13,197 --> 00:47:16,100 are associated with or methodologies 872 00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:19,970 for sequencing DNA, how is it different from one place 873 00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:20,905 versus another? 874 00:47:20,905 --> 00:47:24,742 {\an8}>> I thought that there just was a set DNA sequencing process 875 00:47:24,742 --> 00:47:26,911 {\an8}across every country, across every lab. 876 00:47:26,911 --> 00:47:28,879 But you're saying that's not the case. 877 00:47:28,879 --> 00:47:31,615 If you could explain DNA sequencing differences 878 00:47:31,615 --> 00:47:32,516 in other countries. 879 00:47:32,516 --> 00:47:35,219 >> Start with DNA sequencing, it's evolving. 880 00:47:35,219 --> 00:47:37,955 What is the question you're trying to ask? 881 00:47:37,955 --> 00:47:41,625 That'll determine how do I go about isolating this. 882 00:47:41,625 --> 00:47:44,962 And it can vary from lab to lab or country to country. 883 00:47:44,962 --> 00:47:50,701 But also comes a next question, is what am I trying to answer? 884 00:47:50,701 --> 00:47:53,304 And what specific population of DNA 885 00:47:53,304 --> 00:47:55,005 am I trying to look at where I think is 886 00:47:55,005 --> 00:47:56,841 going to give me that answer? 887 00:47:56,841 --> 00:47:59,009 And that may determine, OK, well, 888 00:47:59,009 --> 00:48:01,011 I need to put in this intermediate step, which 889 00:48:01,011 --> 00:48:04,415 is going to enhance that population of DNA, which 890 00:48:04,415 --> 00:48:06,016 is going to make it more likely that I'm 891 00:48:06,016 --> 00:48:08,252 going to get an answer. 892 00:48:08,252 --> 00:48:11,956 This is an incredibly interesting find. 893 00:48:11,956 --> 00:48:15,693 And it really needs to be looked into. 894 00:48:15,693 --> 00:48:18,195 And I think it's kind of an exciting time, 895 00:48:18,195 --> 00:48:21,966 that different groups can apply different expertise. 896 00:48:21,966 --> 00:48:25,469 We're no longer these little individual groups anymore. 897 00:48:25,469 --> 00:48:27,071 You have a global community. 898 00:48:27,071 --> 00:48:30,040 We can bring everyone together on the global scale 899 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,943 to look and provide different expertise in order to answer 900 00:48:32,943 --> 00:48:34,545 some of these questions. 901 00:48:34,545 --> 00:48:36,847 Is it human, yes or no? 902 00:48:36,847 --> 00:48:41,619 But beyond that, what does it mean for humans as a race? 903 00:48:41,619 --> 00:48:44,955 >> The DNA samples were also taken from Victoria, 904 00:48:44,955 --> 00:48:48,259 one of the smaller bodies, and the results were also very 905 00:48:48,259 --> 00:48:49,660 surprising. 906 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:52,329 {\an8}>> Of course, it was very important for us to make DNA 907 00:48:52,329 --> 00:48:54,431 {\an8}test of little creatures. 908 00:48:54,431 --> 00:48:59,637 And we didn't want to disturb big little ones, 909 00:48:59,637 --> 00:49:03,407 because they are so tiny that, of course, 910 00:49:03,407 --> 00:49:07,845 it should be done only in very special conditions, in very 911 00:49:07,845 --> 00:49:09,947 sterile room, in special atmosphere. 912 00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:15,953 So we didn't want to make it just in simple room. 913 00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:19,990 That's why we had only access to headless one, 914 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:23,661 where it was possible to get samples from the neck. 915 00:49:23,661 --> 00:49:27,865 First conclusions, both in Russia and in Mexico, 916 00:49:27,865 --> 00:49:29,834 was it is not human. 917 00:49:29,834 --> 00:49:35,339 So of all known to us DNA of organic life-- 918 00:49:35,339 --> 00:49:42,112 I mean human, animals, plants, bacterias, microbes-- 919 00:49:42,112 --> 00:49:46,984 there are no correlation with DNA of Victoria. 920 00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:49,954 No match at all. 921 00:49:49,954 --> 00:49:53,557 So that's why it is clear conclusion by scientists 922 00:49:53,557 --> 00:49:56,660 that it's something different. 923 00:49:56,660 --> 00:49:58,996 >> For the experts involved in this case, 924 00:49:58,996 --> 00:50:03,300 it's clear that this is something amazing and never 925 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,002 before seen. 926 00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:08,472 But there was still more data to gather, 927 00:50:08,472 --> 00:50:10,641 data that would compare their DNA 928 00:50:10,641 --> 00:50:14,011 sample to other human species on the planet, 929 00:50:14,011 --> 00:50:18,682 such as Neanderthal or Denisovan. 930 00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:20,951 To take more samples of the bodies 931 00:50:20,951 --> 00:50:22,953 and to compare the DNA of these creatures 932 00:50:22,953 --> 00:50:28,525 to other human species, the Gaia team traveled back to Peru. 933 00:50:28,525 --> 00:50:33,297 This time, they were accompanied by scientist William Brown, who 934 00:50:33,297 --> 00:50:35,132 had a special interest in getting 935 00:50:35,132 --> 00:50:38,402 the samples into a specific lab in the United States. 936 00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:40,537 >> And what are you possibly going to be doing with 937 00:50:40,537 --> 00:50:41,972 the samples on your end? 938 00:50:41,972 --> 00:50:47,611 >> So if we are successful in retrieving samples, 939 00:50:47,611 --> 00:50:56,253 I have labs that I work with where we can do a very thorough 940 00:50:56,253 --> 00:51:00,124 cleaning of the sample to reduce contamination. 941 00:51:00,124 --> 00:51:04,628 And we can do the kind of DNA sequencing and analysis 942 00:51:04,628 --> 00:51:09,967 that will definitively show the nature 943 00:51:09,967 --> 00:51:13,704 or origins of the bodies. 944 00:51:13,704 --> 00:51:18,242 >> Another scientist and PhD from Russia, Dmitry Galetsky, 945 00:51:18,242 --> 00:51:20,945 accompanied Konstantin Korotkov to gather data 946 00:51:20,945 --> 00:51:24,214 for their ongoing study they had going in their labs. 947 00:51:24,214 --> 00:51:26,951 >> How do you feel that your expertise is going to forward 948 00:51:26,951 --> 00:51:28,052 this case? 949 00:51:28,052 --> 00:51:29,553 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 950 00:51:30,621 --> 00:51:32,556 {\an8}>> This is such an interesting moment in terms 951 00:51:32,556 --> 00:51:35,626 {\an8}of the anatomical analysis of the CT scans. 952 00:51:35,626 --> 00:51:37,962 And of course, what I would like to see 953 00:51:37,962 --> 00:51:40,931 are the tissues, the composition of the tissues. 954 00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:43,300 >> Do you feel that the small bodies are more interesting 955 00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:45,336 than Maria and Wawita? 956 00:51:45,336 --> 00:51:46,971 >> The little ones are very interesting. 957 00:51:46,971 --> 00:51:48,839 First of all, there's more of them. 958 00:51:48,839 --> 00:51:51,608 There is Josephina, Alberto, and the rest. 959 00:51:51,608 --> 00:51:53,944 And their skulls have variance that can be analyzed. 960 00:51:53,944 --> 00:51:56,847 Their anatomy is absolutely amazing. 961 00:51:56,847 --> 00:52:00,317 >> On the trip, Gaia journalist Melissa Tittl managed to get 962 00:52:00,317 --> 00:52:03,620 Carla Vargas from the Physical Anthropology Cabinet 963 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:06,890 of the Ministry of Culture of Cusco to talk to her about 964 00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:09,827 the strange bodies found in Nazca. 965 00:52:09,827 --> 00:52:11,962 Melissa wanted to find out why they 966 00:52:11,962 --> 00:52:15,532 were reluctant to join the investigation of this finding 967 00:52:15,532 --> 00:52:17,968 and what their impressions of it were. 968 00:52:17,968 --> 00:52:21,338 >> What do you think of the Nazca mummy that came out that 969 00:52:21,338 --> 00:52:22,973 people are saying is a hoax? 970 00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:24,541 {\an8}[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 971 00:52:25,943 --> 00:52:28,946 {\an8}>> Well, apparently, based on the information that we've seen 972 00:52:28,946 --> 00:52:32,950 {\an8}on the internet, in the news, and so on, it looks like 973 00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:36,320 a mummy that has been altered to give the impression that it is 974 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,458 not of earthly origin, that it would be an extraterrestrial 975 00:52:41,458 --> 00:52:42,826 mummy. 976 00:52:42,826 --> 00:52:45,095 What we have been able to see, based on the photographs, 977 00:52:45,095 --> 00:52:48,832 is that the hands of the mummy, it is a real mummy. 978 00:52:48,832 --> 00:52:51,702 But it has been altered with those purposes. 979 00:52:51,702 --> 00:52:53,971 Some phalanges have been removed, as well 980 00:52:53,971 --> 00:52:56,240 as some other bone parts, and other parts 981 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,409 have been added to it. 982 00:52:58,409 --> 00:53:03,881 >> So it's a real mummy, because it's positioned that way. 983 00:53:03,881 --> 00:53:06,917 But you're saying that the phalanges, the fingers 984 00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:08,952 and the toes, those have been altered? 985 00:53:08,952 --> 00:53:10,954 >> They have been altered, yes. 986 00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:12,923 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 987 00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:15,492 If it was really an ET mummy, they 988 00:53:15,492 --> 00:53:20,931 should be able to show CAT scans and X-rays of the individual, 989 00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:23,967 but they only showed a photograph. 990 00:53:23,967 --> 00:53:26,070 There are no further studies that would give credence 991 00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:26,970 to their claim. 992 00:53:29,673 --> 00:53:30,974 It would be nice to be able to see 993 00:53:30,974 --> 00:53:34,211 an X-ray from the individual to be able to determine 994 00:53:34,211 --> 00:53:37,714 if it suffered from a certain pathology or disease 995 00:53:37,714 --> 00:53:39,950 or if it had a condition that made it different. 996 00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:42,920 >> They have done X-rays on them. 997 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,426 Would you be interested in seeing the body or the X-rays 998 00:53:49,426 --> 00:53:50,627 or any of that kind of stuff? 999 00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:51,962 Is that something the Ministry of Culture 1000 00:53:51,962 --> 00:53:53,097 would be interested in? 1001 00:53:53,097 --> 00:53:54,031 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1002 00:53:54,031 --> 00:53:57,501 >> In principle, the Ministry of Culture, 1003 00:53:57,501 --> 00:54:00,537 as the official body in charge of protecting our cultural 1004 00:54:00,537 --> 00:54:03,974 heritage, the first question would be, 1005 00:54:03,974 --> 00:54:07,010 where did these mummies come from? 1006 00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:08,946 Why should we give a voice to someone 1007 00:54:08,946 --> 00:54:12,049 that is destroying our heritage, someone who is carrying out 1008 00:54:12,049 --> 00:54:15,452 clandestine excavations? 1009 00:54:15,452 --> 00:54:19,089 Then, if the individual is able to support his or her research 1010 00:54:19,089 --> 00:54:23,427 or work, I think the Ministry would be willing to study it, 1011 00:54:23,427 --> 00:54:26,763 but I don't think that will happen. 1012 00:54:26,763 --> 00:54:29,299 >> After the interview with the official of the Ministry 1013 00:54:29,299 --> 00:54:33,070 of Culture of Cusco, the team went to the Inkari Institute 1014 00:54:33,070 --> 00:54:37,241 to grab more samples, where Thierry Jamin informed them 1015 00:54:37,241 --> 00:54:39,943 that the bodies have disappeared, 1016 00:54:39,943 --> 00:54:41,945 and he doesn't know where they are. 1017 00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:43,614 >> So everyone knew we were coming, 1018 00:54:43,614 --> 00:54:45,949 but then they just took the bodies. 1019 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:47,117 And now we're just sitting here. 1020 00:54:47,117 --> 00:54:50,254 >> Well, we don't know that they took no bodies. 1021 00:54:50,254 --> 00:54:52,055 >> But he's put them in a place. 1022 00:54:52,055 --> 00:54:53,123 >> A month ago. 1023 00:54:53,123 --> 00:54:54,224 >> A month ago? 1024 00:54:54,224 --> 00:55:13,744 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1025 00:55:13,744 --> 00:55:15,712 >> They've changed places-- 1026 00:55:15,712 --> 00:55:19,116 they've changed mummies from place more than three times 1027 00:55:19,116 --> 00:55:21,952 to guarantee the security of the mummies. 1028 00:55:21,952 --> 00:55:24,955 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1029 00:55:24,955 --> 00:55:29,960 >> Without more DNA tests, they could not ask more questions. 1030 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,962 For everyone involved in this case, 1031 00:55:31,962 --> 00:55:35,465 they felt that they had interesting information, 1032 00:55:35,465 --> 00:55:37,968 but at every turn, there was a block 1033 00:55:37,968 --> 00:55:40,904 in completing the investigation, whether it 1034 00:55:40,904 --> 00:55:47,711 was from the government, Mario, or several members of the team. 1035 00:55:47,711 --> 00:55:51,949 But then, something interesting happened. 1036 00:55:51,949 --> 00:55:57,221 On August 18, 2013, the team, including Konstantin 1037 00:55:57,221 --> 00:56:00,424 and Dmitry, were able to get access to the bodies 1038 00:56:00,424 --> 00:56:05,929 to do one final tomography that was of the highest quality. 1039 00:56:05,929 --> 00:56:09,333 These CT tomographies used a special program 1040 00:56:09,333 --> 00:56:11,401 that allowed a more detailed examination 1041 00:56:11,401 --> 00:56:15,005 of each layer of the bodies in a precise way that 1042 00:56:15,005 --> 00:56:20,444 would be able to isolate certain areas for better examination. 1043 00:56:20,444 --> 00:56:23,880 {\an8}>> After we received these high-resolution images, 1044 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,951 {\an8}Professor Galetsky was able to make very detailed analysis 1045 00:56:27,951 --> 00:56:32,756 of both Maria, big one, and very important, Josephina, 1046 00:56:32,756 --> 00:56:33,724 little creature. 1047 00:56:33,724 --> 00:56:36,827 If we talk about Maria, she's human-like. 1048 00:56:36,827 --> 00:56:41,965 First of all, details of her skull, anatomy of the skull. 1049 00:56:41,965 --> 00:56:44,868 Second, of course, fingers and toes. 1050 00:56:44,868 --> 00:56:49,006 So if we go step by step, then, of course, first the skull. 1051 00:56:49,006 --> 00:56:54,878 On the skull, we see that she has no ears. 1052 00:56:54,878 --> 00:57:00,751 And construction of her ear bone's different from us. 1053 00:57:00,751 --> 00:57:04,087 This is the first main conclusion. 1054 00:57:04,087 --> 00:57:07,891 Then, construction of skull itself 1055 00:57:07,891 --> 00:57:09,760 is a little bit different. 1056 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,328 Of course, it is elongated skull. 1057 00:57:11,328 --> 00:57:15,299 Maybe not as elongated as we can see in Paracas, 1058 00:57:15,299 --> 00:57:17,968 but still, it is elongated. 1059 00:57:17,968 --> 00:57:24,975 It is more elongated compared with our rounded skull. 1060 00:57:24,975 --> 00:57:30,681 Second, different construction of bones of nose. 1061 00:57:30,681 --> 00:57:34,418 But all other topics of the skull are very similar. 1062 00:57:34,418 --> 00:57:39,623 We don't have a lower part of the body. 1063 00:57:39,623 --> 00:57:46,029 So neither organs of reproduction nor liver, 1064 00:57:46,029 --> 00:57:47,964 no kidneys. 1065 00:57:47,964 --> 00:57:53,403 It's strange, but this came to some conclusions 1066 00:57:53,403 --> 00:57:58,675 that maybe she was attacked by some animal. 1067 00:57:58,675 --> 00:58:01,945 And Professor Galetsky was able to find tracks 1068 00:58:01,945 --> 00:58:05,716 of claws, fangs on her body. 1069 00:58:05,716 --> 00:58:11,088 And all this lower part of the body is just taken away. 1070 00:58:11,088 --> 00:58:15,192 And then we see some parts of particle 1071 00:58:15,192 --> 00:58:17,828 that may be related to blood. 1072 00:58:17,828 --> 00:58:20,964 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1073 00:58:24,868 --> 00:58:28,338 The most interesting for all of us 1074 00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:31,308 was analysis of small bodies. 1075 00:58:31,308 --> 00:58:37,614 And we had CT scans of two bodies. 1076 00:58:37,614 --> 00:58:41,451 And now we know that there's a male and female. 1077 00:58:41,451 --> 00:58:45,756 And we had high-resolution analysis of one of them. 1078 00:58:45,756 --> 00:58:50,127 Their anatomy construction is totally different from ours. 1079 00:58:50,127 --> 00:58:56,967 No human beings, no animals have type of bones that they have. 1080 00:58:56,967 --> 00:59:00,070 All living creatures, we have joints. 1081 00:59:00,070 --> 00:59:02,239 For little creatures, it's not so. 1082 00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:04,741 It's some very strange construction, 1083 00:59:04,741 --> 00:59:09,279 like some balls of tissues inside. 1084 00:59:09,279 --> 00:59:12,682 This allowed them to have some movements, 1085 00:59:12,682 --> 00:59:14,951 but not like ourself. 1086 00:59:14,951 --> 00:59:19,222 So they were unable to make like this, but only like this. 1087 00:59:19,222 --> 00:59:21,291 And same as like this. 1088 00:59:21,291 --> 00:59:25,629 So it's clear that their movement was quite limited. 1089 00:59:25,629 --> 00:59:30,634 Then, construction of their ribs is, again, totally different 1090 00:59:30,634 --> 00:59:32,969 from any living creatures. 1091 00:59:32,969 --> 00:59:34,471 Because for all living creatures, 1092 00:59:34,471 --> 00:59:36,473 we have this central bone. 1093 00:59:36,473 --> 00:59:42,846 Their hips are rounded, and they have no this internal part. 1094 00:59:42,846 --> 00:59:45,849 Absolutely different construction of skull. 1095 00:59:45,849 --> 00:59:48,418 And of course, fingers and toes. 1096 00:59:48,418 --> 00:59:51,721 They don't have mouths, as we do. 1097 00:59:51,721 --> 00:59:55,425 So it's clear that they were unable to eat hard food. 1098 00:59:55,425 --> 01:00:00,964 Then, totally different construction of ears. 1099 01:00:00,964 --> 01:00:06,403 They had ears, but no ears like we do-- just holes. 1100 01:00:06,403 --> 01:00:09,206 And different type of bones inside the ear. 1101 01:00:09,206 --> 01:00:10,474 There are some bones. 1102 01:00:10,474 --> 01:00:13,944 It is-- they are the same, but different. 1103 01:00:13,944 --> 01:00:21,051 Then, they had some holes on their skull 1104 01:00:21,051 --> 01:00:24,754 that no living creatures have. 1105 01:00:24,754 --> 01:00:26,923 And of course, it's unclear why do 1106 01:00:26,923 --> 01:00:29,259 they have these type of holes. 1107 01:00:29,259 --> 01:00:32,996 So what was the reason for nature to have this hole? 1108 01:00:32,996 --> 01:00:37,067 And of course, detailed analysis in tomography 1109 01:00:37,067 --> 01:00:39,736 allowed to see that it's not construction, 1110 01:00:39,736 --> 01:00:42,973 that it's one subject. 1111 01:00:42,973 --> 01:00:46,710 Because when they make analysis on tomography, 1112 01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:51,348 they can make it slide by slide and see tiny details 1113 01:00:51,348 --> 01:00:53,250 on high resolution. 1114 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:55,952 So it's clear that it's not composed of different parts. 1115 01:00:55,952 --> 01:00:57,988 It's one and the same subject. 1116 01:00:57,988 --> 01:01:00,957 From the very beginning, from the first X-ray, 1117 01:01:00,957 --> 01:01:06,096 we've seen some rounded subjects in the belly of Josephina. 1118 01:01:06,096 --> 01:01:12,002 But when we had this detailed CT scan, 1119 01:01:12,002 --> 01:01:14,204 Professor Galetsky he was able to make 1120 01:01:14,204 --> 01:01:19,209 like a slice on the image of those eggs. 1121 01:01:19,209 --> 01:01:23,747 And he demonstrated those are real eggs, because they 1122 01:01:23,747 --> 01:01:27,250 have some cover, like any egg. 1123 01:01:27,250 --> 01:01:29,553 They have some inside content. 1124 01:01:29,553 --> 01:01:32,489 And inside, he was able to detect 1125 01:01:32,489 --> 01:01:35,959 the fetus of some creature. 1126 01:01:35,959 --> 01:01:40,463 So from one side, it is Josephina fetus. 1127 01:01:40,463 --> 01:01:44,134 From outside, it is fetus of some living creature. 1128 01:01:44,134 --> 01:01:47,404 >> With all this evidence and detail, 1129 01:01:47,404 --> 01:01:51,007 could there be something in this that suggests, 1130 01:01:51,007 --> 01:01:55,078 at the very least, a new species on this planet? 1131 01:02:01,818 --> 01:02:06,823 Finally, on the morning of November 19, 2018, 1132 01:02:06,823 --> 01:02:10,460 Cusco congressman Armando Villanueva Mercado 1133 01:02:10,460 --> 01:02:13,430 presided over a hearing about the mummies. 1134 01:02:13,430 --> 01:02:15,966 Scientists whom had participated in the study 1135 01:02:15,966 --> 01:02:18,234 of the Peruvian mummies from different countries 1136 01:02:18,234 --> 01:02:19,970 were invited. 1137 01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:24,074 Every scientist had 15 minutes to present their data. 1138 01:02:24,074 --> 01:02:27,010 Several groups presented tomography analysis 1139 01:02:27,010 --> 01:02:30,080 describing their anatomical structure. 1140 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,083 {\an8}Three groups presented results of DNA studies 1141 01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:35,085 {\an8}of different samples. 1142 01:02:35,085 --> 01:02:37,420 All of these groups worked independently. 1143 01:02:41,291 --> 01:02:44,194 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1144 01:03:03,947 --> 01:03:07,017 Focusing on the analysis of the characteristics of the body 1145 01:03:07,017 --> 01:03:11,955 structure not noted by other researchers, in general, 1146 01:03:11,955 --> 01:03:14,991 all came to the conclusion that the anatomical structure 1147 01:03:14,991 --> 01:03:18,962 of all mummies is different from humans. 1148 01:03:18,962 --> 01:03:23,333 Mummies are so complex that any possibility of counterfeiting 1149 01:03:23,333 --> 01:03:25,969 is eliminated. 1150 01:03:25,969 --> 01:03:29,973 Biologist Ricardo Ringo of the Mexican company Abraxas 1151 01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:33,943 Biosystems presented the results of the DNA analysis 1152 01:03:33,943 --> 01:03:36,713 of the small mummy, Victoria. 1153 01:03:36,713 --> 01:03:40,216 CEN4GEN Labs from Canada performed a sample 1154 01:03:40,216 --> 01:03:42,552 processing and sequencing. 1155 01:03:42,552 --> 01:03:45,422 The fact that it was possible to extract DNA 1156 01:03:45,422 --> 01:03:47,624 clearly indicated that the sample 1157 01:03:47,624 --> 01:03:49,959 was from biological tissue. 1158 01:03:49,959 --> 01:03:52,962 The same conclusion was made in the Russian laboratory 1159 01:03:52,962 --> 01:03:54,998 of VS Boronov. 1160 01:03:54,998 --> 01:03:58,902 The Canadian laboratory had a greater amount of material, 1161 01:03:58,902 --> 01:04:01,871 so that they were able to do better sequencing. 1162 01:04:01,871 --> 01:04:03,973 The computerized analysis of the data 1163 01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:09,279 showed that this DNA does not coincide with any human being 1164 01:04:09,279 --> 01:04:11,448 or living organisms. 1165 01:04:11,448 --> 01:04:15,952 Comparisons were facilitated with microorganisms, bacteria, 1166 01:04:15,952 --> 01:04:20,824 and animals, such as primates, crocodiles, and turtles. 1167 01:04:20,824 --> 01:04:23,193 The conclusion was that the specimens 1168 01:04:23,193 --> 01:04:27,330 were an unknown species of living beings. 1169 01:04:27,330 --> 01:04:30,266 Therefore, the data from genetic studies, 1170 01:04:30,266 --> 01:04:33,837 the tomography analysis, and the elementary composition 1171 01:04:33,837 --> 01:04:38,007 of bodies clearly demonstrated that the mummies were genuine 1172 01:04:38,007 --> 01:04:41,411 and required more serious research. 1173 01:04:41,411 --> 01:04:43,913 All the groups worked independently, 1174 01:04:43,913 --> 01:04:46,950 using their own resources and finances. 1175 01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:49,819 The main objective of this presentations 1176 01:04:49,819 --> 01:04:52,956 was to attract the attention of the Peruvian scientific 1177 01:04:52,956 --> 01:04:56,192 community and to transfer the investigation 1178 01:04:56,192 --> 01:04:58,461 to the official level. 1179 01:04:58,461 --> 01:05:00,830 After the scientific presentations, 1180 01:05:00,830 --> 01:05:04,234 a Peruvian archaeologist was given the floor. 1181 01:05:04,234 --> 01:05:07,470 He stated that all the data presented 1182 01:05:07,470 --> 01:05:10,907 was absolutely unacceptable. 1183 01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:13,443 No one knows where these mummies were found 1184 01:05:13,443 --> 01:05:15,612 and how they were extracted. 1185 01:05:15,612 --> 01:05:18,081 No archaeologist was involved. 1186 01:05:18,081 --> 01:05:21,117 There was no official authorization. 1187 01:05:21,117 --> 01:05:25,755 And it is unclear on what basis all the studies presented 1188 01:05:25,755 --> 01:05:26,956 were made. 1189 01:05:26,956 --> 01:05:31,661 Who authorized it, and where were the samples obtained? 1190 01:05:31,661 --> 01:05:34,531 He didn't even want to consider the results 1191 01:05:34,531 --> 01:05:37,033 or that his own organization wanted nothing 1192 01:05:37,033 --> 01:05:42,238 to do with the find from the beginning. 1193 01:05:42,238 --> 01:05:45,942 Other official representatives of Peruvian science 1194 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:48,912 were not so blatantly negative. 1195 01:05:48,912 --> 01:05:52,882 The Peruvian archaeologists' speeches were more neutral, 1196 01:05:52,882 --> 01:05:55,051 but none of them supported the continuation 1197 01:05:55,051 --> 01:05:58,621 of the investigation at any level. 1198 01:05:58,621 --> 01:06:00,957 [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] 1199 01:06:00,957 --> 01:06:03,259 >> The Ministry of Culture, until last Friday, 1200 01:06:03,259 --> 01:06:06,262 was interested in participating. 1201 01:06:06,262 --> 01:06:08,832 I went there personally to talk to the Ministry of Culture 1202 01:06:08,832 --> 01:06:10,633 myself. 1203 01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:14,637 But for unknown reasons, they've backed down from participating. 1204 01:06:14,637 --> 01:06:17,340 >> After all the findings were presented, 1205 01:06:17,340 --> 01:06:20,944 the Peruvian government went dark. 1206 01:06:20,944 --> 01:06:23,880 There was no verdict by the government. 1207 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,883 Was the evidence too convincing? 1208 01:06:26,883 --> 01:06:29,252 Was there not enough? 1209 01:06:29,252 --> 01:06:31,955 But then, something unexpected happened. 1210 01:06:35,959 --> 01:06:39,195 Despite all the backlash from the anthropologists 1211 01:06:39,195 --> 01:06:43,967 and archaeologists, a university took interest in the bodies. 1212 01:06:43,967 --> 01:06:48,304 About 190 miles south of Lima, in the Nazca region, 1213 01:06:48,304 --> 01:06:52,876 sits the Universidad San Luis Gonzaga, in the town of Ica. 1214 01:06:52,876 --> 01:06:54,744 This university is well known for 1215 01:06:54,744 --> 01:06:58,615 scientific and technological studies that will help forward 1216 01:06:58,615 --> 01:07:01,651 the world in changing times, specifically 1217 01:07:01,651 --> 01:07:02,819 in the country of Peru. 1218 01:07:05,555 --> 01:07:07,557 Is it possible that from the research 1219 01:07:07,557 --> 01:07:10,994 gathered thus far, that the university saw potential 1220 01:07:10,994 --> 01:07:12,962 to dive deeper? 1221 01:07:12,962 --> 01:07:15,031 The research facility has all the bodies 1222 01:07:15,031 --> 01:07:19,903 but Josephina, which is being held back by Mario. 1223 01:07:19,903 --> 01:07:22,305 Mario believes it has great value 1224 01:07:22,305 --> 01:07:25,942 and refuses to give it to the universe. 1225 01:07:25,942 --> 01:07:31,614 And so the investigation continues, but in their hands. 1226 01:07:31,614 --> 01:07:34,317 It seems that the evidence offered by scientists 1227 01:07:34,317 --> 01:07:37,620 around the world and the persistence of the crew 1228 01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:40,323 sparked an interest with some of the academic communities 1229 01:07:40,323 --> 01:07:43,426 in Peru that could not be denied. 1230 01:07:43,426 --> 01:07:46,930 Perhaps it is the discovery of a new species, 1231 01:07:46,930 --> 01:07:49,299 a parting of waters in the knowledge of what 1232 01:07:49,299 --> 01:07:51,968 we have of the human race. 1233 01:07:51,968 --> 01:07:55,972 Or maybe is it something completely different? 1234 01:07:55,972 --> 01:07:59,008 The only people that have tried to find answers 1235 01:07:59,008 --> 01:08:02,946 are a group of people committed, first and foremost, to finding 1236 01:08:02,946 --> 01:08:04,080 what might be the truth. 1237 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:09,819 The journey started with a quest to give the truth 1238 01:08:09,819 --> 01:08:13,289 to the authorities, and it ended with the bodies being 1239 01:08:13,289 --> 01:08:17,260 transferred into a safe and reliable research facility 1240 01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:19,963 for a deeper investigation. 1241 01:08:19,963 --> 01:08:23,633 As the university unravels the truth using high-tech equipment 1242 01:08:23,633 --> 01:08:30,740 and more DNA studies, the world waits for an official answer. 1243 01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:35,912 What did Mario really find in the mountains of Nazca? 1244 01:08:35,912 --> 01:08:40,416 And how has this find sparked a debate that 1245 01:08:40,416 --> 01:08:44,287 still refuses to be buried? 1246 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:47,724 [MUSIC PLAYING] 103772

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