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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,925 --> 00:00:09,845 A NETFLIX ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY 2 00:00:26,085 --> 00:00:28,645 You choose: singing, having fun and so on, 3 00:00:28,725 --> 00:00:32,525 or staying at home studying, doing homework and going to school. 4 00:00:33,325 --> 00:00:35,325 I had no doubts. 5 00:00:35,956 --> 00:00:39,445 It was something most kids in the world never experience. 6 00:00:40,043 --> 00:00:42,045 I think it's something that marked them. 7 00:00:44,162 --> 00:00:46,445 The strange thing is that the best part of your life, 8 00:00:46,525 --> 00:00:49,045 or one of the most intense parts of your life, 9 00:00:49,125 --> 00:00:51,165 happened when you were fourteen years old. 10 00:00:52,555 --> 00:00:55,125 That seems to be the hardest thing to swallow. 11 00:00:57,885 --> 00:01:02,348 I felt bad for them as I thought the fall would be hard, 12 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,923 because they were on a cloud, they spent years on a cloud. 13 00:01:08,462 --> 00:01:09,685 That's the cliché: 14 00:01:09,845 --> 00:01:12,965 there's a kid who's a performer and that kid is going to be a loser. 15 00:01:13,429 --> 00:01:14,325 Why? 16 00:01:19,279 --> 00:01:21,445 That kid will be whatever he makes of himself. 17 00:01:21,605 --> 00:01:25,725 PARCHÍS THE DOCUMENTARY 18 00:01:36,410 --> 00:01:41,485 One of the craziest things 19 00:01:41,565 --> 00:01:44,045 that Parchís fans like myself used to do 20 00:01:44,165 --> 00:01:48,992 was at this exact hotel, the Camino Real, where Parchís stayed... 21 00:01:49,112 --> 00:01:52,421 I'd come from Cuernavaca, two hours away, 22 00:01:52,496 --> 00:01:56,294 and I'd stand here for hours in the sun 23 00:01:56,365 --> 00:02:00,315 to see Tino or Yolanda maybe peep out of the window. 24 00:02:00,415 --> 00:02:03,565 This is precisely where their van would pass by 25 00:02:03,645 --> 00:02:07,876 and there were hundreds of people on both sidewalks 26 00:02:07,951 --> 00:02:10,125 here to see Parchís go by. 27 00:02:10,205 --> 00:02:12,205 Yolanda once went like this to me, 28 00:02:12,285 --> 00:02:14,765 and it was the greatest, I felt... 29 00:02:16,657 --> 00:02:18,150 I don't know how to explain. 30 00:02:18,245 --> 00:02:20,645 I felt accomplished. 31 00:02:26,965 --> 00:02:31,205 Okay, well I don't think that it's a mystery to anyone in this studio 32 00:02:31,325 --> 00:02:35,485 the reason behind the emergence of bands aimed at young people. 33 00:02:35,710 --> 00:02:39,165 I think it's fundamentally due to, among other reasons, 34 00:02:39,245 --> 00:02:43,624 the spectacular development of media outlets, like television, 35 00:02:43,699 --> 00:02:45,005 that give all of us access 36 00:02:45,085 --> 00:02:47,878 to new possibilities of fun and entertainment. 37 00:02:48,223 --> 00:02:51,805 That's why this band, Parchís, has come to fill a void 38 00:02:51,925 --> 00:02:56,533 that, for a long time, we hadn't been able to fill. 39 00:02:56,608 --> 00:02:57,965 Tonight, Parchís! 40 00:03:00,092 --> 00:03:02,925 Of course, when Parchís was launched in '79, 41 00:03:03,685 --> 00:03:06,925 there had been a small baby boom. 42 00:03:07,005 --> 00:03:10,245 So there was a sudden spectator boom... 43 00:03:10,325 --> 00:03:11,405 JOSÉ VIRUETE JOURNALIST 44 00:03:11,485 --> 00:03:14,085 ...a boom of kids that had to be entertained somehow. 45 00:03:14,165 --> 00:03:15,965 Do you know if someone's looking for me? 46 00:03:16,085 --> 00:03:17,264 Yes! 47 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:19,125 Yes? Who could it be? 48 00:03:19,245 --> 00:03:21,045 -Ana! -Ana? 49 00:03:21,124 --> 00:03:23,680 JORGE LÉRIDA - AUTHOR OF "THE FABULOUS WORLD OF CHILDREN'S SONGS" 50 00:03:23,755 --> 00:03:27,525 I'll always say the boom started on a September night in 1977 51 00:03:27,605 --> 00:03:31,645 on Jose Maria Iñigo's program Esta noche... fiesta. 52 00:03:32,060 --> 00:03:33,540 With the song... 53 00:03:33,645 --> 00:03:38,365 The B-side of this single by Enrique, the song "Esto es Amor." 54 00:03:38,485 --> 00:03:43,045 The Hispavox record label itself was surprised 55 00:03:43,485 --> 00:03:47,685 by the success, the boom of Enrique y Ana. 56 00:03:49,422 --> 00:03:50,772 Marvelous! 57 00:03:52,725 --> 00:03:56,245 When the idea came up to start a band... 58 00:03:56,325 --> 00:03:57,645 ANTONI PLANA MANAGER IN SPAIN 59 00:03:57,725 --> 00:03:59,365 ...it was the artistic director's idea. 60 00:03:59,805 --> 00:04:02,525 He took me aside and told me 61 00:04:03,165 --> 00:04:06,750 to put an ad in the papers to find boys and girls. 62 00:04:06,825 --> 00:04:09,725 DISCOS BELTER GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHILDREN FROM 8 TO 12 YEARS OLD 63 00:04:09,845 --> 00:04:12,845 They had to be good looking, to know how to jump around... 64 00:04:13,005 --> 00:04:14,595 MARTA MINGUELLA MUSIC TEACHER 65 00:04:14,695 --> 00:04:17,285 ...and know how to move onstage, to be charismatic. 66 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:19,255 IGNACIO JANER INTERNATIONAL DIRECTOR OF BELTER 67 00:04:19,355 --> 00:04:22,280 But what they were looking for was a band that, aside from singing, 68 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:26,383 portrayed a certain image on television, and an image in their performances, etc. 69 00:04:31,045 --> 00:04:32,405 And that's how it started. 70 00:04:32,485 --> 00:04:38,485 They counted on the invaluable collaboration with Rudy Ventura, 71 00:04:38,685 --> 00:04:40,445 a performer at Discos Belter, 72 00:04:40,765 --> 00:04:46,005 as he had a daughter who had already made records with her father, and such. 73 00:04:46,085 --> 00:04:49,525 When Belter had the idea of starting the band, 74 00:04:49,605 --> 00:04:52,885 he thought of me as a potential member of Parchís. 75 00:04:54,125 --> 00:04:57,285 At the beginning there were to be four of us, two girls and two boys. 76 00:04:57,445 --> 00:05:00,045 To your rhythm and beat 77 00:05:00,805 --> 00:05:03,445 But then David arrived and we saw how he moved. 78 00:05:03,605 --> 00:05:05,325 He was a kid who knew how to dance well. 79 00:05:05,789 --> 00:05:08,165 We said, "He can be the dice. He can be the white counter." 80 00:05:08,325 --> 00:05:10,830 For me at that time it didn't represent anything. 81 00:05:11,005 --> 00:05:13,927 I liked to dance and play. 82 00:05:14,005 --> 00:05:17,605 It wasn't like I'd been given my dream job, I didn't care. 83 00:05:21,645 --> 00:05:24,405 Tino was spotted by a man at school, 84 00:05:24,605 --> 00:05:27,335 a man who worked at Belter, as his son was a singer, 85 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:28,405 and Tino was singing... 86 00:05:28,525 --> 00:05:30,725 The dice doesn't want to sing 87 00:05:32,245 --> 00:05:36,605 The anecdote from the audition, I remember that after singing, 88 00:05:36,685 --> 00:05:38,725 they walked out and left the door ajar, 89 00:05:38,885 --> 00:05:42,965 and I heard the artistic director tell his secretary... 90 00:05:43,282 --> 00:05:46,700 ..."The kid can sing, it's a shame the runt is so ugly." 91 00:05:46,775 --> 00:05:50,205 That stuck with me, I asked my mom, "Mom, am I that ugly, dammit?" 92 00:05:51,765 --> 00:05:55,325 Parchís, chís, chís Parchís, chís, chís 93 00:05:55,885 --> 00:05:59,365 There was this kid, Oscar, he was a little kid. 94 00:05:59,645 --> 00:06:01,965 He was quite the looker. 95 00:06:02,725 --> 00:06:07,005 In reality, the first auditions were for a solo vocalist... 96 00:06:07,457 --> 00:06:11,820 ...and that's how it was sold, I arrived as if it were the casting for an ad. 97 00:06:14,125 --> 00:06:16,885 You land on the square... 98 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:20,525 Probably the only one to arrive via casting 99 00:06:20,645 --> 00:06:23,165 was Gemma. 100 00:06:23,365 --> 00:06:26,565 I'd get home and tell my parents, "Oh, I think I really messed up, 101 00:06:26,665 --> 00:06:29,305 they're not going to pick me, I didn't come out well in the photos, 102 00:06:29,485 --> 00:06:31,327 I didn't sing well... 103 00:06:31,527 --> 00:06:34,645 ...I haven't heard anything back..." Always a bit pessimistic. 104 00:06:34,725 --> 00:06:37,525 Parchís, chís, chís Parchís, chís, chís 105 00:06:37,605 --> 00:06:41,085 The game that is sung For you and for me 106 00:06:41,165 --> 00:06:44,125 Parchís, chís, chís Parchís, chís, chís 107 00:06:44,845 --> 00:06:47,485 But at the beginning it was just a kids' get together. 108 00:06:47,805 --> 00:06:50,885 I was the youngest, along with David; there's a year and a half between us. 109 00:06:51,205 --> 00:06:54,540 But the difference with Gemma and Yolanda was bigger, 110 00:06:54,665 --> 00:06:57,045 more so with Tino. And that was noticeable. 111 00:06:57,685 --> 00:07:01,645 Suddenly, they put you with four kids you don't know. 112 00:07:01,885 --> 00:07:06,125 Now live together, now record, now take photos, now... 113 00:07:06,335 --> 00:07:07,535 Very strange at the beginning. 114 00:07:07,644 --> 00:07:10,524 It wasn't an immediate "we're close" connection. 115 00:07:10,605 --> 00:07:11,965 It was a complicated age. 116 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:15,740 They said, "You're going to sing and we're going to make a record." 117 00:07:15,845 --> 00:07:19,314 And I was, like, buzzing, happy, 118 00:07:19,564 --> 00:07:23,302 I thought, "This is sure to get me out of school for a few hours, awesome!" 119 00:07:25,087 --> 00:07:27,565 Well, at the beginning, in August, 120 00:07:27,645 --> 00:07:32,231 we started recording Las Super 25 Canciones de Los Peques. 121 00:07:32,706 --> 00:07:34,245 Today we're going on a field trip 122 00:07:34,605 --> 00:07:36,285 We'll play ball 123 00:07:36,365 --> 00:07:39,694 For the recordings, mainly the girls and I would coincide, 124 00:07:39,869 --> 00:07:44,578 as we were the ones with slightly more important solo moments. 125 00:07:44,725 --> 00:07:46,245 We'll run faster than a train 126 00:07:46,525 --> 00:07:50,335 I think that due to her level and style, Yolanda sang the most, then Gemma. 127 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,501 And I think David sang about the same. 128 00:07:54,101 --> 00:07:55,475 That was, not a lot, to be honest. 129 00:07:58,205 --> 00:07:59,565 Let's all sing 130 00:08:00,005 --> 00:08:01,940 Regardless of whether the band had lasted a year, 131 00:08:02,245 --> 00:08:06,753 the record label's idea was to have a big launch. 132 00:08:10,545 --> 00:08:16,011 Twenty-five super-songs for children! Two LPs or two cassettes. 133 00:08:16,725 --> 00:08:21,485 Belter's catalogue was mostly made up of Spanish performers, 134 00:08:22,485 --> 00:08:26,965 such as Juanito Valderrama, Dolores Abril, Rosa Morena, 135 00:08:27,765 --> 00:08:31,485 Dolores Vargas, Carmen Sevilla, Lola Flores... 136 00:08:31,965 --> 00:08:35,005 That is Spanish music, notably Spanish. 137 00:08:35,475 --> 00:08:38,595 Belter was sinking. And they said... 138 00:08:38,725 --> 00:08:42,085 as they saw the kid boom had not yet been exploited, they said, 139 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,702 "It's something to cling to." 140 00:08:44,125 --> 00:08:46,205 And that's how it was. 141 00:08:46,475 --> 00:08:49,635 A lot of money was spent on the Parchís venture, 142 00:08:50,005 --> 00:08:53,325 placing ads on TV and all, 143 00:08:53,405 --> 00:08:55,845 and if it hadn't worked out, 144 00:08:56,005 --> 00:09:00,525 then maybe we'd all have been really screwed. 145 00:09:01,165 --> 00:09:06,645 But I don't think the company was on the way down, not at all. 146 00:09:06,965 --> 00:09:11,285 At the beginning we were just getting together for just that, for a short time, 147 00:09:11,365 --> 00:09:14,005 for three or four months and that's it. 148 00:09:14,085 --> 00:09:16,565 It was just recording an LP, that's ten songs, 149 00:09:16,645 --> 00:09:18,605 and appearing on the program. 150 00:09:18,685 --> 00:09:21,285 So no... There was nothing else. 151 00:09:30,005 --> 00:09:32,125 Following in our magazine's tradition, 152 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:35,645 Aplauso is starting a new kids' page, that's right. 153 00:09:35,765 --> 00:09:40,125 And we're dressed in full regalia to introduce a new band. 154 00:09:40,725 --> 00:09:45,245 We leave you with the story of "Barbapapa" and the voices of Parchís. 155 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:56,020 I mean, if you appeared on a winter afternoon 156 00:09:56,125 --> 00:09:58,365 on Aplauso, which aired on Saturdays, 157 00:09:58,485 --> 00:10:01,965 then you'd be seen by all of Spain, because there were two channels, 158 00:10:02,045 --> 00:10:04,365 there were no more options. They'd see you. 159 00:10:04,575 --> 00:10:07,205 You just found a Barbapapa 160 00:10:07,405 --> 00:10:10,165 I was tense, I was so tall, the tallest of us all. 161 00:10:10,349 --> 00:10:14,509 And there I was... And they even put me in one of those long jackets... 162 00:10:14,605 --> 00:10:19,245 The initial idea was that I was the dice, so I could dress in white, in black, 163 00:10:19,645 --> 00:10:20,925 I could dress in any color. 164 00:10:21,525 --> 00:10:24,205 But in the end white stuck. 165 00:10:24,645 --> 00:10:27,005 So now, as a reaction, I dress in all black. 166 00:10:29,805 --> 00:10:33,245 -Did you like the story of Barbapapa? -Yes! 167 00:10:33,685 --> 00:10:37,085 After the second program of Aplauso, for me it was like... 168 00:10:37,725 --> 00:10:38,765 you know... 169 00:10:39,125 --> 00:10:44,805 interviews, they'd cut our hair, wardrobe made to measure... 170 00:10:45,085 --> 00:10:46,485 -Applause! -Applause! 171 00:10:48,245 --> 00:10:52,365 For example, in Spain, on Aplauso, it was pretty strict. 172 00:10:52,525 --> 00:10:53,565 Enter music! 173 00:10:58,365 --> 00:11:01,085 I remember that Giorgio Aresu's dancers always complained 174 00:11:01,205 --> 00:11:04,405 that we weren't good enough. 175 00:11:05,525 --> 00:11:06,525 Anyway... 176 00:11:06,805 --> 00:11:10,165 I think it was part of the band's charm, not doing things perfectly. 177 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:15,321 To the beat of the same twist Singing and dancing 178 00:11:16,045 --> 00:11:21,340 And I remember, my school headmaster made me go from class to class on a chair. 179 00:11:21,465 --> 00:11:23,765 He'd stand me on a chair and he'd say, "See this girl? 180 00:11:23,845 --> 00:11:26,005 She's gonna be on TV, just so you know." 181 00:11:26,149 --> 00:11:28,109 On Monday when you'd go to school 182 00:11:28,309 --> 00:11:31,549 and you'd been on Aplauso, on TV, and all your classmates had seen it, 183 00:11:31,685 --> 00:11:33,357 you'd be like, "What happened?" 184 00:11:34,525 --> 00:11:39,045 They'd stare at you more, they did, because you were more popular. 185 00:11:39,205 --> 00:11:41,445 It's not that I liked it that much, 186 00:11:41,525 --> 00:11:44,125 but it did boost your self-esteem a little. 187 00:11:44,445 --> 00:11:46,845 And in my case it was a good thing. 188 00:11:47,205 --> 00:11:49,285 -Let's dance everybody! -Let's dance! 189 00:11:49,365 --> 00:11:51,965 -Come on, come on! -Let's dance! 190 00:11:52,805 --> 00:11:55,525 -Come on, let's go! -Let's dance! 191 00:11:56,675 --> 00:11:58,595 To my school's twist 192 00:12:00,258 --> 00:12:04,005 I ask you: How would you feel if you were twelve? 193 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:06,990 You're not aware of what you're living, but it fascinates you 194 00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:08,965 because it's like a game that nobody else has. 195 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,200 To be doing those things at that moment, at that age... 196 00:12:12,405 --> 00:12:14,242 It was a privilege, a stroke of luck. 197 00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:16,125 THE CHILDREN'S GROUP OF THE MOMENT 198 00:12:16,285 --> 00:12:19,365 I don't think we knew what the word "hit" meant. 199 00:12:19,785 --> 00:12:20,733 When you're ten, 200 00:12:22,085 --> 00:12:25,720 you know tangible words, like "stone," "red..." 201 00:12:25,965 --> 00:12:30,019 But we didn't understand the concept of "hit." 202 00:12:30,965 --> 00:12:34,260 And what does receiving this gold record mean to you? 203 00:12:35,134 --> 00:12:40,351 To us it represents the fact that kids like our songs, 204 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,345 and we're all really excited to receive this record. 205 00:12:43,510 --> 00:12:45,765 -Congratulations, Parchís. -Thank you very much. 206 00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:52,125 I think some circumstances arose that only arise once in a blue moon. 207 00:12:52,445 --> 00:12:54,335 I think they did a good job with the members, 208 00:12:54,485 --> 00:12:58,285 they did a good job with colors, choreography, wardrobe, music, 209 00:12:58,445 --> 00:13:01,725 composers, songs... I think these things were all well-chosen. 210 00:13:02,005 --> 00:13:05,885 People were really looking for something exciting and new. 211 00:13:15,445 --> 00:13:18,405 I think that the success was backed up 212 00:13:18,565 --> 00:13:21,245 by the TV programs and films, 213 00:13:21,325 --> 00:13:24,167 because they were the ones making more film and TV appearances. 214 00:13:24,413 --> 00:13:26,342 CONTRA EL HOMBRE INVISIBLE - COMANDO G 215 00:13:26,445 --> 00:13:31,285 No, no, success undoubtedly came about because a lot of money was invested. 216 00:13:36,005 --> 00:13:37,725 SALVADOR FENOLLAR HEAD OF BELTER'S SALES 217 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,722 The company gave me a 500,000-peseta check every month, 218 00:13:41,245 --> 00:13:42,965 which I deposited into my account, 219 00:13:43,085 --> 00:13:46,965 then I'd make checks for 10,000, 15,000, 20,000... 220 00:13:47,165 --> 00:13:50,525 and they'd get handed out to different people 221 00:13:50,605 --> 00:13:52,445 so they'd play our records. 222 00:13:52,580 --> 00:13:54,582 "PARCHÍS", MUSIC AND SONGS FOR CHILDREN 223 00:13:54,657 --> 00:13:57,565 So yeah, money and gifts would circulate, 224 00:13:57,965 --> 00:14:02,005 and mink coats, and gold Rolexes and... who knows what... 225 00:14:02,285 --> 00:14:05,765 Checks for a million pesetas to some TV presenter... 226 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,672 Now, attention, mini-viewers. 227 00:14:07,845 --> 00:14:10,085 And this week, with all of you... 228 00:14:10,245 --> 00:14:12,845 ...with a beautiful song that the kids will love. 229 00:14:13,005 --> 00:14:16,045 -And what's their name? -Parchís! 230 00:14:16,285 --> 00:14:18,805 With all of you, Parchís! 231 00:14:21,605 --> 00:14:24,845 I also think there were things to do with Parchís that happened by chance. 232 00:14:27,445 --> 00:14:29,085 Looking at the band's trajectory, 233 00:14:29,205 --> 00:14:32,245 there are times they took a step forward, then took a step back. 234 00:14:32,325 --> 00:14:34,845 I don't think there was a master plan. 235 00:14:35,336 --> 00:14:40,236 Mortadelo Mortadelo and Filemón 236 00:14:40,405 --> 00:14:43,445 There's no one general style, you can't say they're pop records 237 00:14:43,565 --> 00:14:45,650 because there are songs that are rancheras. 238 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:49,660 Extrovert And very careful 239 00:14:49,765 --> 00:14:53,445 And we also have to talk about the record production. 240 00:14:53,725 --> 00:14:57,325 I mean, Parchís records sound like a bomb. 241 00:14:57,725 --> 00:15:02,805 There is a war between galaxies 242 00:15:02,925 --> 00:15:06,565 THE BATTLE OF THE PLANETS 243 00:15:06,765 --> 00:15:10,165 At that time, I didn't do arrangements, I was a technician. 244 00:15:12,205 --> 00:15:15,245 But the artistic director asked me for an arrangement... 245 00:15:15,385 --> 00:15:16,760 JOSEP LLOBELL PRODUCER AND ARRANGER 246 00:15:16,856 --> 00:15:20,079 ...and it was precisely the first I did in my life, "Comando G" by Parchís, 247 00:15:20,335 --> 00:15:21,735 that was my first arrangement. 248 00:15:21,959 --> 00:15:24,679 Comando G, Comando G 249 00:15:25,645 --> 00:15:27,878 Is always alert 250 00:15:28,285 --> 00:15:30,525 They could sing anything 251 00:15:30,605 --> 00:15:35,285 within the limitation that they didn't all sing well. 252 00:15:35,765 --> 00:15:37,565 And we had to... 253 00:15:37,685 --> 00:15:40,245 The little kids always went behind the mic. 254 00:15:40,549 --> 00:15:45,909 Whose mission is to protect The Earth from attacks 255 00:15:46,405 --> 00:15:49,565 They'd record, we'd dub vocals, whatever, 256 00:15:49,645 --> 00:15:54,245 and then the professionals would come in, studio vocalists, girls. 257 00:15:54,325 --> 00:15:57,525 As they could do boys' voices perfectly, you couldn't tell. 258 00:15:57,765 --> 00:16:00,685 Phoenix take flight 259 00:16:01,765 --> 00:16:04,456 In any case, Parchís' voices were always there on one level. 260 00:16:04,581 --> 00:16:09,636 So I can't say that they have or had so much help 261 00:16:09,711 --> 00:16:11,135 that their voices were lost. 262 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,539 Their voices, their timbres, were always there. 263 00:16:14,735 --> 00:16:17,830 They will win the battle 264 00:16:18,975 --> 00:16:20,937 "Comando G" has been really successful, right? 265 00:16:21,182 --> 00:16:22,807 -Yes. -Why do you think...? 266 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:27,291 Because the film is on TV, and... 267 00:16:27,569 --> 00:16:29,477 they see it every day and they like it. 268 00:16:29,754 --> 00:16:31,134 Do you like the film? 269 00:16:31,412 --> 00:16:34,877 Do you like traveling all the time, or is it boring for you? 270 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:37,299 No, I look forward to it, I love it. 271 00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:42,252 I wasn't... From the beginning, you have to go bit by bit, 272 00:16:42,395 --> 00:16:44,475 and TV would accelerate the process. 273 00:16:45,125 --> 00:16:46,965 And there was even a time 274 00:16:47,045 --> 00:16:51,685 that we'd take a Seat 131 Supermirafiori, the five of us with the manager, 275 00:16:51,765 --> 00:16:53,205 which would be unthinkable now. 276 00:16:53,885 --> 00:16:56,165 -Are we all in? -Yes! 277 00:16:56,294 --> 00:16:59,054 I made sure they wanted for nothing, 278 00:16:59,605 --> 00:17:02,205 that they were comfortable and happy, 279 00:17:02,700 --> 00:17:05,837 and especially that they were having fun, 280 00:17:06,186 --> 00:17:08,724 that this didn't seem like work to them. 281 00:17:10,170 --> 00:17:11,400 What else? 282 00:17:11,525 --> 00:17:13,192 Oh, the vaccines! 283 00:17:13,490 --> 00:17:15,250 They were all great kids. 284 00:17:15,579 --> 00:17:17,579 They did their kid's things... 285 00:17:17,702 --> 00:17:21,765 Permission from the parents. One, two, three, four, five. 286 00:17:22,029 --> 00:17:24,086 So, the usual. 287 00:17:24,405 --> 00:17:26,936 I don't know, my daughters have played some dirty tricks on me! 288 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:31,010 So imagine kids who aren't yours! 289 00:17:33,109 --> 00:17:38,589 We were on this terrace, sort of bored, then suddenly... 290 00:17:39,285 --> 00:17:41,765 I decided to throw a chair from the terrace. 291 00:17:41,925 --> 00:17:43,365 Wham, and throws it. 292 00:17:44,244 --> 00:17:46,804 With the risk of what could have happened. 293 00:17:47,685 --> 00:17:49,285 But it didn't end there, 294 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:52,410 because, driven by fear... Have they told this story or not? 295 00:17:52,565 --> 00:17:54,965 And when we go back out to the terrace, I stick my head out 296 00:17:55,125 --> 00:17:59,605 and I see the man from the house below is looking up and complaining. 297 00:18:00,365 --> 00:18:03,445 I felt sort of provoked to throw another chair: 298 00:18:03,725 --> 00:18:06,192 "As he'd already seen me, I'll throw another chair." 299 00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:07,442 And I did. 300 00:18:07,550 --> 00:18:11,245 Keep throwing cakes! At the end of the day it's me who gets it. 301 00:18:11,525 --> 00:18:15,365 And, of course, the man came to the hotel, really angry, 302 00:18:15,445 --> 00:18:18,285 saying that he was going to report us to the police, 303 00:18:18,365 --> 00:18:20,685 and the poor man was perfectly right. 304 00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:23,615 It's always me who takes care of everything. 305 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:26,875 -Well, that's what you're here for. -Don't be insolent! 306 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:31,500 Honestly, it was like a kick in the balls. 307 00:18:38,605 --> 00:18:41,485 Places we went to started filling up. 308 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,120 Success was growing, 309 00:18:43,229 --> 00:18:46,229 the first film was put forward, Children's War. 310 00:18:46,485 --> 00:18:48,925 No rattles 311 00:18:49,645 --> 00:18:51,967 No problems 312 00:18:52,092 --> 00:18:54,900 And the films were full of great professionals from Spain. 313 00:18:55,195 --> 00:18:57,195 Javier Aguirre had a very long career 314 00:18:57,325 --> 00:18:59,925 making all kinds of commercial productions, 315 00:19:00,543 --> 00:19:03,780 from nude films to these kinds of films. 316 00:19:03,904 --> 00:19:07,325 The previous one done with kids had been a failure. 317 00:19:07,699 --> 00:19:11,707 Bermudez hired me saying that the film had been a bust... 318 00:19:11,785 --> 00:19:13,660 CHILDREN'S WAR THE FIRST PARCHÍS FILM 319 00:19:13,737 --> 00:19:15,325 ...but he was hiring me in particular... 320 00:19:15,405 --> 00:19:16,775 JAVIER AGUIRRE FILM DIRECTOR 321 00:19:16,845 --> 00:19:19,925 ...because of how well the kids had been directed. 322 00:19:20,165 --> 00:19:22,885 In Parchís, that father figure didn't exist. 323 00:19:23,114 --> 00:19:26,154 In fact, in the films, parental figures are there to be defied, 324 00:19:26,245 --> 00:19:29,245 the authority figures, which is pretty cool. 325 00:19:29,414 --> 00:19:31,374 It has a sort of punk side to it. 326 00:19:31,605 --> 00:19:33,565 Go ahead with your diggers, go ahead! 327 00:19:33,645 --> 00:19:35,605 Demolish an unnecessary neighborhood school! 328 00:19:35,685 --> 00:19:37,885 And while you're at it, kill its rightful owner! 329 00:19:38,125 --> 00:19:41,205 The man who didn't want to do business with education and was ruined! 330 00:19:43,285 --> 00:19:48,125 I especially remember that Tino was a natural. 331 00:19:48,565 --> 00:19:52,525 He was the band leader, of course. 332 00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:54,925 I don't think they'll be back. 333 00:19:55,005 --> 00:19:57,885 -And Skinny, what will he be up to? -It's not hard to imagine. 334 00:19:59,882 --> 00:20:01,405 The advert read: 335 00:20:01,849 --> 00:20:04,569 "Wanted: fat child to film commercial." 336 00:20:05,245 --> 00:20:08,532 Before I read it, I always thought it said, "Wanted: 337 00:20:08,857 --> 00:20:12,685 attractive, cheerful and charismatic young man..." Not "fat and showy." 338 00:20:12,965 --> 00:20:14,095 RODRIGO VALDECANTOS ACTOR 339 00:20:14,192 --> 00:20:16,609 That was the dynamic we started with. 340 00:20:16,805 --> 00:20:21,205 To give you an idea, prior to that I had no idea who Parchís were. 341 00:20:21,685 --> 00:20:23,085 CHILDREN'S WAR 342 00:20:23,235 --> 00:20:26,805 Bermudez was totally convinced it would be a hit. 343 00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:31,020 And, for example, in the theater in Callao 344 00:20:31,405 --> 00:20:33,845 there were hardly ever tickets. 345 00:20:35,005 --> 00:20:39,565 It was a measure of how well things were going. 346 00:20:43,565 --> 00:20:44,725 I didn't see a penny. 347 00:20:45,005 --> 00:20:47,445 My mother and father decided where it was going. 348 00:20:48,805 --> 00:20:50,325 I'm getting full! 349 00:20:51,565 --> 00:20:55,445 I've been asked, "Listen, what about all the money you made with Parchís?" 350 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,320 I don't know, first of all, what I made, 351 00:20:57,685 --> 00:21:01,125 and second, they gave me a bicycle 352 00:21:01,605 --> 00:21:03,565 and it was stolen the next day. 353 00:21:05,725 --> 00:21:08,005 It was like... some gypsy kid stole my bike 354 00:21:08,085 --> 00:21:11,485 and basically he was the one who made money from Parchís. 355 00:21:12,005 --> 00:21:13,365 That was it. 356 00:21:14,805 --> 00:21:18,485 I was preparing the last trip of the year, 357 00:21:18,645 --> 00:21:20,965 visiting all the companies 358 00:21:21,045 --> 00:21:23,525 that licensed Discos Belter in Latin America. 359 00:21:23,645 --> 00:21:27,885 So, of course, when I saw and heard the Christmas carol record, 360 00:21:28,005 --> 00:21:30,605 I saw the photo, they introduced me to the children, 361 00:21:30,685 --> 00:21:33,259 and this, that and the other, I got my ideas straight. 362 00:21:34,925 --> 00:21:36,510 I didn't care about the songs. 363 00:21:36,618 --> 00:21:39,525 If they sang, if they were dubbed in the studio, 364 00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:40,930 I didn't care. 365 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:42,860 I wanted to sell them. 366 00:21:43,205 --> 00:21:46,765 Their charisma, their ease, how they moved, 367 00:21:47,084 --> 00:21:49,924 how they dealt with people. 368 00:21:50,125 --> 00:21:53,565 We got some test album covers, I ordered a tape recorder, 369 00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:56,010 which was how we worked back then, 370 00:21:56,318 --> 00:22:00,006 and asked if there was a postcard or a photo and this and that, 371 00:22:00,381 --> 00:22:04,965 because I was going to add them to my agenda for the tour I was preparing. 372 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,640 So, necessarily, 373 00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:14,085 an essential condition, sine qua non: I want the kids in Argentina. 374 00:22:14,445 --> 00:22:17,405 "That's ridiculous! it will cost a fortune!" 375 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,080 But it's true that things changed upon landing there. 376 00:22:24,865 --> 00:22:30,220 After all we'd been through, the success here in Spain, 377 00:22:30,817 --> 00:22:34,222 we landed in Mexico, and there, against all odds... 378 00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:36,014 WELCOME, PARCHÍS 379 00:22:36,089 --> 00:22:37,925 ...things didn't work out. 380 00:22:38,405 --> 00:22:40,039 And in Argentina they did. 381 00:22:40,845 --> 00:22:45,245 It was the reaffirmation of everything that had happened in Spain, 382 00:22:45,629 --> 00:22:48,304 which happened there but with a much bigger audience 383 00:22:48,405 --> 00:22:49,885 and greater repercussion. 384 00:23:06,709 --> 00:23:11,709 When the band started to have real success in Argentina... 385 00:23:11,955 --> 00:23:13,355 ALL THEIR HITS SUPERSONGS 386 00:23:13,455 --> 00:23:15,565 ...a producer approached me, Mr. Spitz. 387 00:23:15,695 --> 00:23:17,310 PARCHÍS SUCCEED IN SOUTH AMERICA 388 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:20,487 He was a film producer, proposing the band do a film. 389 00:23:21,855 --> 00:23:27,547 Rat-a-tat-tat! Look Rat-a-tat-tat! Dance 390 00:23:27,685 --> 00:23:30,445 The first film we recorded in Argentina 391 00:23:31,005 --> 00:23:33,125 was in Mar del Plata. 392 00:23:33,325 --> 00:23:37,605 We were in a hotel next to the beach. 393 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:40,685 And there we'd film the movie in the morning 394 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,245 and do two sessions in a performance circus in the afternoon. 395 00:23:43,330 --> 00:23:44,949 PARCHÍS FROM 8 JANUARY TO 20 FEBRUARY 396 00:23:45,074 --> 00:23:47,170 That went on for practically a month... Or more. 397 00:23:50,045 --> 00:23:53,045 We'd make one reverse charge phone call per week to one of our parents 398 00:23:53,205 --> 00:23:55,168 and that parent would call all the others. 399 00:23:59,285 --> 00:24:01,925 So, you'd speak to one of the parents, 400 00:24:02,085 --> 00:24:05,645 so you didn't even speak to your parents, you'd speak to them once a month. 401 00:24:07,045 --> 00:24:10,405 But that tour of Argentina, that was... 402 00:24:10,845 --> 00:24:13,338 Experiencing it as a child, you don't realize, 403 00:24:13,445 --> 00:24:15,924 but it was a little out of control. 404 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,840 Because I had a boyfriend and so did someone else, 405 00:24:19,275 --> 00:24:21,235 we did whatever we wanted. 406 00:24:21,645 --> 00:24:23,365 We'd go and make out... 407 00:24:23,627 --> 00:24:26,605 I don't know, there was nobody watching over us. 408 00:24:31,325 --> 00:24:33,325 We've all kissed Yolanda, 409 00:24:33,645 --> 00:24:37,165 because she's that outgoing and at some point we all liked her. 410 00:24:38,245 --> 00:24:41,685 Gemma too, but Gemma had a different way of relating to us. 411 00:24:42,445 --> 00:24:46,685 That doesn't mean that anyone's relationship went any further than that. 412 00:24:47,005 --> 00:24:49,845 We were just experimenting 413 00:24:50,005 --> 00:24:53,845 and playing and getting to know our bodies and that sort of thing. 414 00:24:54,085 --> 00:24:58,885 The toing and froing of hanging out made us start to notice 415 00:24:59,085 --> 00:25:00,565 the opposite sex. 416 00:25:01,841 --> 00:25:03,828 We met when walking 417 00:25:04,478 --> 00:25:08,680 I think experiences that people my age may have had with a schoolmate, 418 00:25:08,805 --> 00:25:11,325 I had with my band mates. 419 00:25:11,765 --> 00:25:15,165 And you feel the way I do 420 00:25:15,525 --> 00:25:18,006 And I care as much as you do 421 00:25:18,856 --> 00:25:21,845 I don't know if this is normal 422 00:25:22,325 --> 00:25:25,125 Ours is a special age 423 00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:29,795 Special 424 00:25:30,565 --> 00:25:33,325 My first kiss was with Tino, but it didn't last. 425 00:25:33,805 --> 00:25:37,085 She was a girl who'd started out with you and little by little you start noticing 426 00:25:37,285 --> 00:25:40,205 two little lumps in her t-shirt, and you're like, "What's that?" 427 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:45,344 I think part of the attraction of a relationship when you're very young 428 00:25:45,565 --> 00:25:51,285 is the excitement of meeting up and distancing... 429 00:25:51,445 --> 00:25:55,765 When you're together all day, there's no mystery. 430 00:25:55,965 --> 00:25:59,565 He doesn't leave me alone For a moment 431 00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:05,130 I can't even breathe 432 00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:09,117 Before we had time to make that possible relationship official, 433 00:26:09,292 --> 00:26:12,525 I realized that in the front rows, 434 00:26:12,770 --> 00:26:15,450 not just the girls and the fans, 435 00:26:15,586 --> 00:26:18,325 but the moms who had come with them and that... 436 00:26:18,445 --> 00:26:20,765 You think, "Dude, whoa, check that out!" 437 00:26:21,644 --> 00:26:27,644 What awoke in Tino is what awakes in all of us when we hit 15 or 16. 438 00:26:28,272 --> 00:26:33,307 And back then, at the concerts, the girls were, like, crazy, 439 00:26:33,607 --> 00:26:36,800 and all he wanted, if he met a girl who... 440 00:26:37,385 --> 00:26:41,645 was going to make it easy, was, well, to take full advantage. 441 00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:44,725 What we all did when we were young. 442 00:26:52,005 --> 00:26:54,285 South America was in love with Tino. 443 00:26:54,765 --> 00:26:56,045 He was the leader. 444 00:26:56,845 --> 00:27:01,685 And in interpersonal relationships within the band, 445 00:27:02,845 --> 00:27:04,645 subconsciously... 446 00:27:05,885 --> 00:27:07,125 he portrayed it. 447 00:27:11,045 --> 00:27:13,285 Tino, at that time, had a lot of power in the band, 448 00:27:13,365 --> 00:27:15,285 at that moment and maybe later on, but... 449 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:18,780 he acted like a... 450 00:27:19,005 --> 00:27:20,885 Let's put it gently, like a leader. 451 00:27:21,005 --> 00:27:23,725 He was always very clear as to what he wanted. 452 00:27:24,285 --> 00:27:27,205 And, aside from that, the label, 453 00:27:27,445 --> 00:27:30,965 who were the absolute owners of the whole Parchís concept, 454 00:27:31,045 --> 00:27:33,645 chose him as their protégé. 455 00:27:35,805 --> 00:27:40,397 That meant that he'd spend all day at the label's HQ when we were in Spain. 456 00:27:41,245 --> 00:27:44,605 He'd eat out with them, he knew their secrets, 457 00:27:44,925 --> 00:27:48,165 who was dating who or who was so and so's lover... 458 00:27:48,245 --> 00:27:51,485 He knew all the goings on, whereas to us it was all a mystery. 459 00:27:51,565 --> 00:27:54,147 We'd go when there was a meeting... 460 00:27:54,285 --> 00:27:58,605 But we didn't move around with ease at the label's HQ. 461 00:27:58,685 --> 00:28:01,325 It wasn't our territory. But it was his. 462 00:28:01,725 --> 00:28:03,245 That gave him a lot of power. 463 00:28:03,565 --> 00:28:06,245 When, in the afternoon I see her leaving 464 00:28:06,725 --> 00:28:10,245 Something seems to burst Out of my chest 465 00:28:10,845 --> 00:28:12,725 Times goes by... 466 00:28:12,885 --> 00:28:16,525 I'm aware and I realize that, in some way, 467 00:28:16,725 --> 00:28:18,165 on the company's part, 468 00:28:19,005 --> 00:28:22,245 they tried to highlight my presence 469 00:28:22,645 --> 00:28:24,525 for concrete and precise matters. 470 00:28:25,765 --> 00:28:28,285 One day, at a contract signing, Orfila suddenly says: 471 00:28:28,765 --> 00:28:31,525 "Everyone makes this and you make this plus that." 472 00:28:32,565 --> 00:28:33,565 How come? 473 00:28:33,645 --> 00:28:36,925 What was I gonna say, "No, don't you dare"? Well, no. 474 00:28:37,925 --> 00:28:40,525 She's my dream girl 475 00:28:41,725 --> 00:28:44,325 She's my dream girl 476 00:28:46,045 --> 00:28:49,630 There were sort of two sides: the record label's side... 477 00:28:50,555 --> 00:28:51,965 and Tino was on that side. 478 00:28:52,485 --> 00:28:55,677 And he was one of their biggest representatives. 479 00:28:56,104 --> 00:28:58,504 He had a lot of scope, they'd let him do anything. 480 00:28:58,685 --> 00:29:03,525 Obviously, power in a very young kid can be... 481 00:29:04,285 --> 00:29:06,885 a dangerous weapon. 482 00:29:07,605 --> 00:29:08,565 And he used it. 483 00:29:09,805 --> 00:29:12,152 I think we all had our issues. 484 00:29:12,377 --> 00:29:14,805 You could say that Tino, being the most famous in the band, 485 00:29:14,885 --> 00:29:18,445 maybe had a more despotic attitude, but he was also the eldest 486 00:29:18,525 --> 00:29:22,285 and probably had a more adult thought process. 487 00:29:22,755 --> 00:29:24,525 Are you the one who leads them all? 488 00:29:24,685 --> 00:29:25,987 I wish I was! 489 00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:28,105 -They don't let you. -Me too! 490 00:29:28,722 --> 00:29:30,605 -But I can't. -Can't you? 491 00:29:30,685 --> 00:29:33,237 Also, the relationship with Tino was not good. 492 00:29:33,412 --> 00:29:35,525 I didn't get along with Tino at all, 493 00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:39,104 that is, not in the beginning, but it got worse. 494 00:29:44,725 --> 00:29:48,165 Oscar was a problematic kid. 495 00:29:49,085 --> 00:29:52,045 He was continually fighting with the others. 496 00:29:53,685 --> 00:29:55,365 Maybe because he was the youngest, 497 00:29:56,285 --> 00:29:59,205 the others fought continually with him. 498 00:30:00,805 --> 00:30:03,165 At the end of the day, I got on best with Gemma. 499 00:30:04,645 --> 00:30:07,085 And with the others, well... 500 00:30:07,445 --> 00:30:08,387 less. 501 00:30:11,165 --> 00:30:12,887 Oscar went... 502 00:30:13,885 --> 00:30:15,885 He did his own thing. 503 00:30:16,165 --> 00:30:19,252 On our second trip, his mother came, so he was... 504 00:30:19,355 --> 00:30:21,795 He was, like, younger, more protected. 505 00:30:21,925 --> 00:30:26,445 And the fact... the fact that Oscar had his mother and the rest didn't, 506 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:29,860 it made the rest of us be a little like, "Look at him, 507 00:30:29,965 --> 00:30:32,005 how come he gets to have his mom here..." 508 00:30:32,125 --> 00:30:34,532 Well, because his mom got on a plane and went! 509 00:30:34,805 --> 00:30:35,965 The others just didn't. 510 00:30:36,205 --> 00:30:39,272 Oscar's mom always came along, but we never took any notice of her. 511 00:30:40,285 --> 00:30:42,777 So my mom comes along and she realizes that the whole thing... 512 00:30:44,205 --> 00:30:47,612 is out of control, and that there were no limits, 513 00:30:48,525 --> 00:30:50,021 no discipline, 514 00:30:50,521 --> 00:30:53,965 and that there was no one to really look after us. 515 00:30:54,885 --> 00:30:57,165 So when they went to see the kids, 516 00:30:57,245 --> 00:31:00,605 they saw a panorama they didn't like one bit, 517 00:31:00,845 --> 00:31:05,085 because they saw that the kids were really abandoned, living... 518 00:31:05,164 --> 00:31:10,053 Throwing things from a terrace to see if they fell on someone's head... 519 00:31:10,178 --> 00:31:11,685 JOAQUÍN ORISTRELL TOUR MANAGER 520 00:31:11,805 --> 00:31:15,365 ...calling room service and ordering the most expensive thing on the menu, 521 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,685 like caviar, and not eating it... 522 00:31:17,885 --> 00:31:20,285 They were kids like... 523 00:31:20,447 --> 00:31:24,325 like the ones from Lord of the Flies. They'd gone wild. 524 00:31:24,565 --> 00:31:27,885 It's not all eating out here, eating out there, 525 00:31:28,775 --> 00:31:32,445 the best gifts, the best hotels... 526 00:31:32,772 --> 00:31:37,445 and no, that can't be, there have to be some rules. 527 00:31:40,295 --> 00:31:42,095 Quick, down we go, short stuff! 528 00:31:45,545 --> 00:31:47,795 The feeling I retain from that moment, 529 00:31:48,365 --> 00:31:51,285 is of being well looked after. 530 00:31:51,885 --> 00:31:55,205 Things improved a lot after that because we had teachers. 531 00:31:55,445 --> 00:32:01,405 Something happened that had upset the foundations of the group, so... 532 00:32:02,205 --> 00:32:06,205 As there were important commitments to go abroad, etcetera, 533 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:10,125 they were hoping to find the person 534 00:32:10,205 --> 00:32:15,205 who could somehow cover the job of being with the kids, 535 00:32:15,325 --> 00:32:17,525 to be a caregiver, 536 00:32:17,645 --> 00:32:19,965 someone to entertain and distract them. 537 00:32:20,125 --> 00:32:22,965 And aren't you guys tired of recording? 538 00:32:23,045 --> 00:32:24,045 No. 539 00:32:24,125 --> 00:32:25,325 -And of singing? -No. 540 00:32:25,405 --> 00:32:27,325 -Don't you miss your mom? -What? 541 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,337 -Don't you miss your mom? -You have her here! 542 00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:32,062 -His mother's here. -Is she? 543 00:32:33,365 --> 00:32:36,725 Oscar's mother wasn't happy with how... 544 00:32:37,595 --> 00:32:41,515 the issue of our fame was being handled. 545 00:32:42,487 --> 00:32:47,325 As a kid you'd probably say, "I'm tired" or "I'd rather be at home..." 546 00:32:47,405 --> 00:32:51,784 but you don't have the view to say: "This isn't for me, as a world," right? 547 00:32:52,365 --> 00:32:53,685 My mother could see that, 548 00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:58,005 I think that by traveling with me, with us all, to South America... 549 00:32:58,075 --> 00:32:59,365 IT'S A GAME TO SING 550 00:32:59,565 --> 00:33:02,620 ...she saw that things weren't going down a good path. 551 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:06,465 SPAIN'S YOUNGEST MILLIONAIRES TVE REPRESENTATIVES AT THE WARSAW FESTIVAL 552 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,445 There was a campaign to say that she was someone... 553 00:33:12,045 --> 00:33:14,045 That she was damaging the band, 554 00:33:14,845 --> 00:33:16,565 that she was bad for us, 555 00:33:17,365 --> 00:33:20,565 that she lied, and that she was irritating. 556 00:33:21,245 --> 00:33:24,085 So the other parents, sort of... 557 00:33:24,512 --> 00:33:26,685 started to see her as a problematic person. 558 00:33:26,765 --> 00:33:29,565 "And now what does she want to tell us? And now... 559 00:33:29,685 --> 00:33:32,645 it turns out that instead of eight hours they worked ten?" 560 00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:37,845 And they entered into a dynamic that anything that Oscar's mother said 561 00:33:38,005 --> 00:33:41,565 didn't seem to have a positive bearing on the band. 562 00:33:42,165 --> 00:33:44,805 With the other parents... 563 00:33:44,965 --> 00:33:46,330 VICTÓRIA CAÑADAS OSCAR'S MOTHER 564 00:33:46,405 --> 00:33:49,525 ...I had a good relationship, but every time I went along on a trip, 565 00:33:49,765 --> 00:33:51,605 I told them what was going on. 566 00:33:52,045 --> 00:33:53,845 And what was going on was... 567 00:33:54,765 --> 00:33:56,596 that the kids weren't getting paid, 568 00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:58,662 that they were being exploited and all that. 569 00:33:59,245 --> 00:34:04,106 All of their performances were full to the brim with people. 570 00:34:04,256 --> 00:34:06,317 So where was the money going? 571 00:34:06,925 --> 00:34:09,284 You didn't have to be an accountant to see that. 572 00:34:09,405 --> 00:34:11,245 It clearly didn't add up. 573 00:34:11,815 --> 00:34:16,335 Some kids' parents didn't find it as worrying as Oscar's mom did. 574 00:34:16,605 --> 00:34:20,605 At that time, the spotlight was burning bright 575 00:34:20,885 --> 00:34:26,889 and certainly, even though I was hung, drawn and quartered... 576 00:34:27,165 --> 00:34:29,764 I'd go on tour for two months 577 00:34:29,844 --> 00:34:33,125 and make what my father was making in four. 578 00:34:33,284 --> 00:34:35,485 I think Gemma's mother, as well as mine, 579 00:34:36,205 --> 00:34:39,284 would let their husbands control them a lot. 580 00:34:39,485 --> 00:34:44,205 And the husbands had a different idea of what was good for their daughters. 581 00:34:49,045 --> 00:34:53,565 In my uncle's case I have no doubt, it was the profession. 582 00:34:54,081 --> 00:34:57,457 He was a man on the way down, and being involved in all of that 583 00:34:57,525 --> 00:35:00,845 was something that invigorated him, fascinated him. 584 00:35:00,925 --> 00:35:03,965 He liked that his daughter could be a performer... 585 00:35:04,193 --> 00:35:05,193 That's for sure. 586 00:35:05,325 --> 00:35:08,925 At that time, I was separated 587 00:35:09,245 --> 00:35:12,525 and I needed the money, but I put Oscar first. 588 00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:17,165 I put Oscar before my own needs. 589 00:35:18,509 --> 00:35:21,789 We're five real friends 590 00:35:21,965 --> 00:35:26,110 I asked him if he wanted me to take him out of the band and he said, "Well, yes." 591 00:35:26,325 --> 00:35:29,085 I mean, he wasn't totally sure, but yes. 592 00:35:29,325 --> 00:35:32,180 Because he had fun too, 593 00:35:32,305 --> 00:35:36,165 the kids played a lot, he traveled a lot... 594 00:35:38,005 --> 00:35:39,725 I mean, it wasn't all bad. 595 00:35:41,925 --> 00:35:45,445 If I have to have this woman there, not good. 596 00:35:45,525 --> 00:35:50,085 The kid's not comfortable. I made a profile of what was going on. 597 00:35:50,605 --> 00:35:52,405 Together without fear 598 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080 And I suggested that if we wanted to move forward 599 00:35:55,210 --> 00:35:56,961 and not be met with surprises, 600 00:35:57,061 --> 00:35:59,965 it was convenient and necessary to replace him. 601 00:36:00,644 --> 00:36:04,044 We're five real friends 602 00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:07,205 But when we wanted to leave the band, it wasn't easy. 603 00:36:09,405 --> 00:36:13,338 They said there were pending tours, there were contracts... 604 00:36:13,763 --> 00:36:17,165 For us as kids it was like, "This woman only finds problems 605 00:36:17,245 --> 00:36:19,070 and now she wants to leave, so let her go." 606 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,960 That's all, right? No more complications. 607 00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,580 But we must admit that the things she was saying, 608 00:36:25,725 --> 00:36:29,445 she was probably more in the right than our parents. 609 00:36:30,485 --> 00:36:34,405 I don't feel like they were traumatized by Oscar leaving. 610 00:36:34,765 --> 00:36:37,845 Because I imagine that when I arrived he'd spent a while 611 00:36:38,005 --> 00:36:41,187 threatening to leave. And if he hadn't, his mother had. 612 00:36:41,405 --> 00:36:43,085 And somehow to them, 613 00:36:43,165 --> 00:36:46,445 as they wanted to continue and they were happy with what they were doing, 614 00:36:46,525 --> 00:36:48,645 what they wanted was for someone new to join, 615 00:36:48,829 --> 00:36:50,949 and problem solved, it was that easy. 616 00:36:51,734 --> 00:36:53,654 Hello, friends. We are Parchís. 617 00:36:53,923 --> 00:36:56,578 And as I'm the eldest I've been asked to introduce the others. 618 00:36:56,778 --> 00:36:59,645 Here we have the youngest member, the pup of the band, Frank. 619 00:36:59,805 --> 00:37:01,725 Hey, I'm nine! 620 00:37:01,925 --> 00:37:06,045 Oscar always took the position of, "I do it, I'm all right, 621 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,080 but I don't love it," because he was a model. 622 00:37:09,845 --> 00:37:10,845 Frank... 623 00:37:11,024 --> 00:37:12,504 Parchís was his life. 624 00:37:12,885 --> 00:37:17,605 He had an awesome passion for the band. 625 00:37:19,075 --> 00:37:21,035 We're recording, right? My versions are... 626 00:37:24,805 --> 00:37:26,978 My versions are from... 627 00:37:27,445 --> 00:37:30,685 There are lots of things that, as my colleagues Yolanda and Gemma state, 628 00:37:30,805 --> 00:37:32,297 I exaggerate a lot. 629 00:37:32,845 --> 00:37:34,565 I tend to exaggerate a bit. 630 00:37:34,725 --> 00:37:38,033 If I tell you that there were 150,000 people, maybe it was 70,000. 631 00:37:38,501 --> 00:37:41,585 But I do remember a lot of things. 632 00:37:49,565 --> 00:37:51,698 They started telling me everything that had to be done. 633 00:37:52,365 --> 00:37:55,235 Tour around Mexico, Argentina, a movie... 634 00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:56,990 and I misunderstood. 635 00:37:57,245 --> 00:37:59,805 I understood that I'd be joining after all that. 636 00:38:00,250 --> 00:38:02,560 The walls and the floor as well 637 00:38:02,685 --> 00:38:06,485 When my parents told me I'd be starting in a month's time, 638 00:38:06,565 --> 00:38:08,531 the joy was overwhelming. 639 00:38:08,685 --> 00:38:11,568 To join Parchís, a band I really loved. 640 00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:16,885 And Frank was a kid who worked out really well. 641 00:38:17,005 --> 00:38:19,645 Firstly, due to his physical attributes, 642 00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:23,180 due to his charisma and him being a natural. 643 00:38:24,405 --> 00:38:26,965 Hello, friends 644 00:38:27,765 --> 00:38:31,485 It was Yolanda and Gemma who helped me the most from the beginning. 645 00:38:31,765 --> 00:38:34,525 They spent many days teaching me the steps, 646 00:38:34,605 --> 00:38:37,165 where I came in, where I went out... 647 00:38:37,384 --> 00:38:40,344 It was harder for him to get the choreography, 648 00:38:40,575 --> 00:38:42,030 because he was the smallest. 649 00:38:42,765 --> 00:38:46,285 He'd be sort of following the steps of the older kids. 650 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:52,525 That's why in lots of scenes it looks like I'm being funny, but the truth is... 651 00:38:52,685 --> 00:38:54,645 that I'd get lost, I'd get lost because I was... 652 00:38:56,605 --> 00:38:59,768 It was a lot of information for a nine- or ten-year-old kid. 653 00:39:00,965 --> 00:39:02,645 Do you think it will work? 654 00:39:02,725 --> 00:39:05,005 Yes, it has the most powerful magnet in existence. 655 00:39:05,085 --> 00:39:07,285 Frank and I, it was a constant game, always. 656 00:39:07,365 --> 00:39:10,765 Everything we saw as an opportunity to play. 657 00:39:10,965 --> 00:39:12,205 Everything. 658 00:39:15,669 --> 00:39:17,310 It's not like we'd wreck hotels, 659 00:39:17,385 --> 00:39:20,765 but we'd make training obstacle courses in our room. 660 00:39:20,925 --> 00:39:24,485 In Cádiz, they set up a football pitch in a bedroom. 661 00:39:25,125 --> 00:39:26,965 In a five-star hotel. 662 00:39:27,045 --> 00:39:28,085 A hotel in Buenos Aires, 663 00:39:28,245 --> 00:39:31,285 where we'd often make tents with the beds and all that, 664 00:39:31,365 --> 00:39:33,485 told us not to return. 665 00:39:36,485 --> 00:39:40,725 For a time, we turned into sort of thieves. 666 00:39:41,685 --> 00:39:43,765 My first cologne was Agua Brava, 667 00:39:43,925 --> 00:39:45,845 which was the cologne your dad would wear, 668 00:39:45,925 --> 00:39:48,525 and it was one of the perfumes we'd steal on the plane. 669 00:39:49,271 --> 00:39:50,525 Crank it up. 670 00:39:54,045 --> 00:39:57,245 We'd go to souvenir shops for tourists, for example, 671 00:39:57,445 --> 00:40:01,610 and when we saw something we liked, we'd steal it. 672 00:40:01,735 --> 00:40:03,845 And then we'd get to the hotel and we'd be like, 673 00:40:04,205 --> 00:40:07,045 "How many have you got and how many have I got?" 674 00:40:07,205 --> 00:40:08,805 Okay, let's film. 675 00:40:08,885 --> 00:40:11,005 Stop that machine, it's noisy. 676 00:40:11,445 --> 00:40:12,885 Silence! 677 00:40:12,965 --> 00:40:15,525 Mexico, Argentina, were the first countries I visited... 678 00:40:15,725 --> 00:40:16,765 Lights! 679 00:40:16,885 --> 00:40:19,525 It was a constant trip. 680 00:40:19,845 --> 00:40:20,965 Playback! 681 00:40:27,045 --> 00:40:32,085 You come from a humble family and suddenly you're in the middle of this hullabaloo 682 00:40:32,205 --> 00:40:37,485 with planes, helicopters. fans, tours, interviews... 683 00:40:42,605 --> 00:40:45,205 We'd arrive there and we were like... 684 00:40:45,365 --> 00:40:47,845 I felt like the Beatles. It was... 685 00:40:48,254 --> 00:40:50,965 They welcomed you. They gave you everything. 686 00:40:51,125 --> 00:40:53,405 And another of the great rewards they received 687 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:57,485 was a triple platinum record for the sale of three million copies, 688 00:40:57,565 --> 00:40:59,885 so just imagine. Go, Parchís! 689 00:41:01,718 --> 00:41:03,339 The end of the great adventure 690 00:41:03,424 --> 00:41:05,788 Their success was so awesome, 691 00:41:06,805 --> 00:41:11,045 it was impossible to remain oblivious. 692 00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:14,825 Come on, kids, we're ready for rehearsal. 693 00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:17,940 I mean, it would infect you. 694 00:41:18,045 --> 00:41:23,925 So you were somehow swept away in that wave and on that path 695 00:41:24,005 --> 00:41:26,645 and even if you could have a critical perspective of the issue, 696 00:41:26,805 --> 00:41:28,605 you'd get carried away. 697 00:41:28,685 --> 00:41:31,605 I ended up writing lyrics and preparing shows for them. 698 00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:35,370 And now, what all the kids have been waiting for, 699 00:41:35,525 --> 00:41:37,125 with you all, Parchís! 700 00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:49,405 I mean, I've experienced, for example, 701 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,440 going to certain places that were cock fighting enclosures, 702 00:41:55,445 --> 00:41:59,577 and saying to the promoter, "You have to give me the money before the performance." 703 00:41:59,710 --> 00:42:02,150 And he had two six foot officers at his back 704 00:42:02,305 --> 00:42:04,265 who pulled out two guns like this, 705 00:42:04,445 --> 00:42:07,485 and he said, "The kids will perform and then you'll get your money." 706 00:42:07,964 --> 00:42:12,964 Whose mission is to protect The Earth from attacks 707 00:42:13,245 --> 00:42:15,205 We've performed in places... 708 00:42:15,765 --> 00:42:19,605 some odd, diverse and complicated places. 709 00:42:19,685 --> 00:42:21,445 You might play in a concert hall today 710 00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:23,462 and in the afternoon in a place that you say, 711 00:42:23,637 --> 00:42:25,245 "How's this held together? Four planks." 712 00:42:28,045 --> 00:42:29,725 We'd had a problem in a concert, 713 00:42:29,925 --> 00:42:31,925 there was a song where we got kids onstage, 714 00:42:32,125 --> 00:42:34,805 and there was a black curtain behind us, 715 00:42:35,005 --> 00:42:37,605 but the curtain wasn't attached to the wooden stage... 716 00:42:37,885 --> 00:42:40,325 It's really fun It's our favorite 717 00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:44,270 ...and the kids came up and got behind us to sing, 718 00:42:44,525 --> 00:42:48,205 but unfortunately kids kept falling off the back. 719 00:42:50,045 --> 00:42:53,005 We saw parents going... and people getting up... 720 00:42:53,125 --> 00:42:54,870 We didn't know what they were doing. 721 00:42:56,085 --> 00:42:58,565 Often there were places that we'd say, 722 00:42:58,645 --> 00:43:01,522 "Where have we just performed? With what resources?" 723 00:43:01,772 --> 00:43:07,925 But the great thing is that people, even if we'd sung without mics, 724 00:43:08,725 --> 00:43:10,845 people thought it was fantastic. 725 00:43:17,545 --> 00:43:20,065 The show could be good, bad or mediocre. 726 00:43:20,285 --> 00:43:24,512 People just wanted to see us, to be there, to have that experience 727 00:43:24,925 --> 00:43:26,645 of being at the concert. 728 00:43:31,365 --> 00:43:33,005 The boys and girls 729 00:43:33,525 --> 00:43:36,845 aged twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen and sixteen, 730 00:43:36,925 --> 00:43:38,285 would go crazy. 731 00:43:39,122 --> 00:43:42,980 Friends of Parchís 732 00:43:43,205 --> 00:43:46,525 But the kids aged four, five, six, seven, 733 00:43:46,845 --> 00:43:51,165 were stupefied seeing all that, and they took part: 734 00:43:51,285 --> 00:43:53,488 "Did you like it?" "Yes!" "I can't hear you!" "Yes!" 735 00:43:54,952 --> 00:43:58,245 Friends of Parchís 736 00:43:58,365 --> 00:44:01,005 One of the reasons why we connected so well with people 737 00:44:01,085 --> 00:44:03,685 was because they realized that we were having fun. 738 00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:19,370 Despite being shy, getting up onstage... 739 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,298 I loved it. 740 00:44:21,373 --> 00:44:24,645 Just seeing... The more people, the merrier. 741 00:44:24,805 --> 00:44:27,965 Because people, like in Mexico or in Argentina, 742 00:44:28,214 --> 00:44:30,934 there they call your name, they scream, 743 00:44:31,045 --> 00:44:34,285 you hear your name everywhere. You feel so loved. 744 00:44:34,485 --> 00:44:37,365 Another member of the hottest child and youth band, 745 00:44:37,445 --> 00:44:39,285 here's Gemma! 746 00:44:42,365 --> 00:44:45,390 Thing is, after a while it got hard for me, 747 00:44:45,565 --> 00:44:50,805 the thing with the tours, traveling, movies, interviews... 748 00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:52,925 it got heavy going. 749 00:44:53,565 --> 00:44:57,365 I think Gemma is a pretty brave woman. 750 00:44:57,845 --> 00:45:02,325 From a young age, she handled things well. 751 00:45:03,045 --> 00:45:06,285 She had a great natural intelligence. 752 00:45:06,565 --> 00:45:08,805 She met Yolanda and... 753 00:45:09,293 --> 00:45:14,085 they got on very well, especially because Gemma yielded, 754 00:45:14,445 --> 00:45:16,565 but I think she needed that at her side. 755 00:45:17,685 --> 00:45:19,445 But the relationship they had 756 00:45:19,565 --> 00:45:24,085 was a slave relationship, as it's known in philosophy. 757 00:45:24,165 --> 00:45:26,085 The master and the slave. 758 00:45:26,245 --> 00:45:29,405 Each needed the other to be who they were. 759 00:45:29,485 --> 00:45:33,325 People may think that I tried to overshadow her, 760 00:45:33,485 --> 00:45:34,645 but it wasn't like that. 761 00:45:35,965 --> 00:45:40,165 I think that, emotionally, we depended on each other. 762 00:45:40,645 --> 00:45:42,925 And in that sense I depended on her a lot, 763 00:45:43,180 --> 00:45:44,679 because she looked after me too. 764 00:45:45,045 --> 00:45:47,205 There were times she felt tired, that's true. 765 00:45:47,285 --> 00:45:51,525 Maybe her energy was less sizable than Yolanda's, 766 00:45:51,605 --> 00:45:53,965 who gets it from her father, 767 00:45:54,045 --> 00:45:57,485 and who's a woman who loves her job above all else. 768 00:45:57,923 --> 00:46:02,320 This beautiful ten-year-old kid, Yolanda, is Rudy Ventura's daughter. 769 00:46:02,395 --> 00:46:04,479 I want to know if you like that she is a singer. 770 00:46:04,555 --> 00:46:05,980 2/8/1979 YOLANDA'S FIRST TV APPEARANCE 771 00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:11,893 Yes, she has recorded albums and stories for children. I like it. 772 00:46:12,094 --> 00:46:14,818 What about her? Do you like to sing, Yolanda? 773 00:46:14,892 --> 00:46:16,317 Yes, a lot. 774 00:46:17,232 --> 00:46:20,990 Well, let's see her performing "Si Vas a París, Papá." 775 00:46:23,999 --> 00:46:26,999 My father was like, "You have to be a singer and an actress... 776 00:46:27,325 --> 00:46:29,565 a supercomplete performer. 777 00:46:29,965 --> 00:46:34,205 And the stage is sacred, even if you don't feel well, 778 00:46:34,325 --> 00:46:37,769 on stage you give it all..." because he was like that. 779 00:46:38,257 --> 00:46:41,647 Daddy goes to Paris And he won't say what for 780 00:46:41,885 --> 00:46:45,610 If he's going to Moulin Rouge Or to get a baby 781 00:46:45,889 --> 00:46:47,492 Daddy goes to Paris... 782 00:46:47,708 --> 00:46:49,405 Of course, my mother would tell him, 783 00:46:49,485 --> 00:46:52,623 "But the girl has to go to school, she isn't going to school." 784 00:46:53,098 --> 00:46:55,518 And my father was like, "But she's doing well," so... 785 00:46:56,365 --> 00:46:59,285 "She's doing what she's going to do." 786 00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:06,730 The first impression wasn't like, "Be careful with the academic issue." 787 00:47:06,805 --> 00:47:09,725 But suddenly, the following year it was like, 788 00:47:09,805 --> 00:47:11,725 "These kids aren't going to school much." 789 00:47:11,815 --> 00:47:15,085 Another school year What adventures can we expect? 790 00:47:15,165 --> 00:47:18,325 Your teachers did give you your subject matter, 791 00:47:18,447 --> 00:47:20,349 but of course, you didn't go to class. 792 00:47:20,565 --> 00:47:23,373 In fact, in my third year in Parchís, I went to school five or six days. 793 00:47:23,462 --> 00:47:24,987 THE SECOND CHILDREN'S WAR 794 00:47:25,205 --> 00:47:26,765 And they made me repeat that year. 795 00:47:27,690 --> 00:47:31,650 With Latin, English and French To battle once again 796 00:47:34,385 --> 00:47:39,245 For a kid of fifteen who comes back with the whirlwind of success and that, 797 00:47:39,325 --> 00:47:41,532 to face the day to day again... 798 00:47:41,982 --> 00:47:47,285 There were some moments that were a little complicated. 799 00:47:51,925 --> 00:47:53,382 School was really hard. 800 00:47:55,725 --> 00:47:58,300 And I've always said that... 801 00:47:58,885 --> 00:48:04,605 the fame or fandom that we got in Latin American countries 802 00:48:04,685 --> 00:48:06,522 turned into a search and destroy in Spain. 803 00:48:07,285 --> 00:48:11,125 It was always, "Parchís, chis, chis..." "What?" "Parchís, chis!" 804 00:48:11,205 --> 00:48:12,245 The usual. 805 00:48:12,325 --> 00:48:15,845 But you eventually become immune to all that. 806 00:48:16,365 --> 00:48:18,645 Are you happy to be back at school? 807 00:48:19,165 --> 00:48:20,085 Yes! 808 00:48:20,525 --> 00:48:21,525 I'm glad. 809 00:48:21,734 --> 00:48:24,142 There was a moment when I said, "Let's bring a teacher along." 810 00:48:24,267 --> 00:48:25,965 In case, at some point... 811 00:48:26,125 --> 00:48:28,965 Because on those long tours, there would suddenly be four days 812 00:48:29,045 --> 00:48:31,112 that they might be a bit quiet. 813 00:48:31,276 --> 00:48:34,119 I think I kind of played the role of the parents who weren't there. 814 00:48:34,905 --> 00:48:36,980 Sort of the job of making them study... 815 00:48:37,090 --> 00:48:38,520 IMMA CABECERANS TEACHER 816 00:48:38,645 --> 00:48:40,957 ...be there for them when they had a problem... 817 00:48:41,282 --> 00:48:43,965 A bit like a care-giving mother. 818 00:48:57,724 --> 00:49:03,084 I think that the moment reality struck was when we finished a tour, 819 00:49:03,165 --> 00:49:06,422 we got back to Barcelona, and they were out of place 820 00:49:06,525 --> 00:49:08,247 because they didn't have school friends. 821 00:49:08,389 --> 00:49:12,481 I'd get to school and they'd go off on trips, to camps and all that, 822 00:49:12,607 --> 00:49:14,389 and I could never go because I had tours. 823 00:49:14,525 --> 00:49:17,495 And swing my sword like D'Artagnan! 824 00:49:18,445 --> 00:49:21,685 I guess that, as soon as they got into that routine, 825 00:49:21,765 --> 00:49:25,649 they almost preferred to spend four months away from home than to be there. 826 00:49:26,685 --> 00:49:28,805 Being just another kid at school. 827 00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:33,429 Our mischief is innocent Hilarious... 828 00:49:33,525 --> 00:49:35,925 Why can't I be in my group from school 829 00:49:36,085 --> 00:49:39,485 if they ask me to go out, and speak normally 830 00:49:39,565 --> 00:49:42,325 without anyone looking me up and down to see how I'm dressed? 831 00:49:42,765 --> 00:49:44,485 It was all a bubble. 832 00:49:44,925 --> 00:49:46,365 Our bubble. 833 00:49:46,765 --> 00:49:48,245 And we lived there. 834 00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:56,549 Because it was such a whirlwind, you barely had time to think. 835 00:49:56,847 --> 00:49:59,024 Every day we'd do new things, appear on television... 836 00:50:00,525 --> 00:50:03,485 Almost every day there was a performance. 837 00:50:04,325 --> 00:50:06,405 Okay, don't get nervous. 838 00:50:06,485 --> 00:50:08,965 The main thing is to keep calm. 839 00:50:09,045 --> 00:50:12,205 Are you nervous? Would you like a tranquilizer for your nerves? 840 00:50:12,285 --> 00:50:13,472 No, no... Better not. 841 00:50:13,947 --> 00:50:16,925 Everyone who had power and money 842 00:50:17,005 --> 00:50:21,165 wanted Parchís to rub shoulders with their children, grandchildren... 843 00:50:21,365 --> 00:50:24,917 So, of course, the kids would kick up a lot 844 00:50:25,067 --> 00:50:27,400 and they'd often start trouble. 845 00:50:27,605 --> 00:50:30,232 But we'd do it. We might say... 846 00:50:30,765 --> 00:50:35,125 But we'd go. We'd go to the party or interview or whatever. 847 00:50:39,605 --> 00:50:41,405 Their special routine 848 00:50:41,485 --> 00:50:44,957 was they'd set one foot on the plane and they'd fall asleep. 849 00:50:48,125 --> 00:50:50,485 Well, I can't wait another minute to visit Rio de Janeiro. 850 00:50:50,565 --> 00:50:51,965 Why don't we go right now? 851 00:50:52,125 --> 00:50:54,285 I learned to sleep on planes too. 852 00:50:54,445 --> 00:50:58,005 On that four-month tour, I think that, as far as sleeping in a bed, 853 00:50:58,185 --> 00:51:00,625 I must have slept less than four hours a day 854 00:51:00,725 --> 00:51:03,765 over those four months, so I'd get there and crash out. 855 00:51:04,045 --> 00:51:07,085 Returning to Mexico, the extraordinary and classy band 856 00:51:07,205 --> 00:51:10,092 that, one time only and for just four shows, 857 00:51:10,217 --> 00:51:12,605 will perform in the Aztec Pavilion and in Mexico City. 858 00:51:12,845 --> 00:51:16,445 In Mexico, if you didn't work with Televisa, 859 00:51:16,845 --> 00:51:17,972 you didn't work. 860 00:51:18,605 --> 00:51:22,445 They had the power, not as a label, but media power. 861 00:51:22,685 --> 00:51:25,605 Parchís the idols, Parchís the brilliant, 862 00:51:25,725 --> 00:51:27,645 Parchís the consecrated. 863 00:51:27,765 --> 00:51:30,845 Televisa was the most important company in Mexico, 864 00:51:30,925 --> 00:51:32,685 but the one that paid the worst. 865 00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:34,590 Saturday 24th and Sunday 25th of April, 866 00:51:34,685 --> 00:51:37,485 4:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. in the Aztec Pavilion. 867 00:51:37,765 --> 00:51:41,645 And then lurking around the hotel, 868 00:51:42,085 --> 00:51:45,525 I don't know through whom, nor why, nor in what way, 869 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:47,365 this character appeared. 870 00:51:47,885 --> 00:51:51,107 Jorge Berlanga, for example, is who sold Hugo Sánchez to Atletico de Madrid, 871 00:51:51,485 --> 00:51:54,725 so he's a guy who works a lot with football transfers, 872 00:51:54,845 --> 00:51:56,205 he knows all about it, 873 00:51:56,325 --> 00:51:59,005 he's a close friend of Maradona's, he knows the deal with Messi. 874 00:51:59,065 --> 00:52:00,882 He's a real character. If you ever meet him, 875 00:52:00,955 --> 00:52:03,155 take a lot of batteries, and I mean a lot, 876 00:52:03,485 --> 00:52:06,405 because I'm Harpo Marx in comparison. 877 00:52:07,325 --> 00:52:08,845 Joaquín would say... 878 00:52:09,202 --> 00:52:12,925 and he can confirm this if you speak to him again, 879 00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:14,005 he said... 880 00:52:14,315 --> 00:52:15,642 PARCHÍS' MANAGER IN MEXICO 881 00:52:15,717 --> 00:52:17,755 ..."The first Porsche I ever got into was yours." 882 00:52:18,205 --> 00:52:22,605 Did I have a Porsche? I don't even remember having a Porsche! 883 00:52:22,885 --> 00:52:26,405 So, he explains that he knows that... 884 00:52:26,845 --> 00:52:29,445 that working with him would be better, 885 00:52:29,645 --> 00:52:34,805 and that he had a network of managers all over the country, 886 00:52:34,885 --> 00:52:38,125 that we could book much bigger gigs. 887 00:52:38,380 --> 00:52:40,960 As an aside, the kids wouldn't be as tired; 888 00:52:41,035 --> 00:52:47,735 he offered them, for long journeys, to go by private jet. 889 00:52:48,205 --> 00:52:50,445 I felt a terrible lethargy 890 00:52:50,805 --> 00:52:55,365 arriving and queueing for a flight with 200 people to board five kids, 891 00:52:56,580 --> 00:52:59,540 so I'd say to some businessman, "Send me a plane." 892 00:53:03,365 --> 00:53:05,645 They gave us luxuries, that they did. 893 00:53:05,765 --> 00:53:07,725 And the best. 894 00:53:08,325 --> 00:53:12,905 If I wanted to go to a shopping center and I was adamant that I liked a ring, 895 00:53:13,302 --> 00:53:15,022 then I got the ring, right? 896 00:53:16,805 --> 00:53:19,845 Jorge Berlanga did well 897 00:53:19,925 --> 00:53:23,423 in saying, "The kids need a day off per week." 898 00:53:23,645 --> 00:53:25,310 No one had ever done that. 899 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:30,820 Or, "If these kids have a birthday, they need it to be celebrated," 900 00:53:30,925 --> 00:53:34,805 and they'd turn up with mariachis and give us gifts... 901 00:53:34,965 --> 00:53:37,595 Before that, you could spend your birthday on plane 902 00:53:37,735 --> 00:53:39,135 and no one cared. 903 00:53:39,448 --> 00:53:43,616 What bound me to Parchís was a series of circumstances. 904 00:53:43,765 --> 00:53:47,245 The first was the huge affection I developed for Joaquín Oristrell 905 00:53:47,405 --> 00:53:51,165 and Carmen Balaguer and Rudy Ventura, may he rest in peace. 906 00:53:51,669 --> 00:53:52,693 The second... 907 00:53:55,505 --> 00:53:57,209 my children adored Parchís. 908 00:53:57,460 --> 00:54:00,964 On the longest tour we had, our parents came along. 909 00:54:01,085 --> 00:54:04,752 All our parents were invited... 910 00:54:05,005 --> 00:54:08,005 to Las Vegas, then to Acapulco... 911 00:54:08,189 --> 00:54:11,069 We went to Los Angeles, San Francisco, 912 00:54:11,205 --> 00:54:12,535 we went to Orlando. 913 00:54:12,685 --> 00:54:17,048 That was all paid for by the manager, Mr. Berlanga, in this case. 914 00:54:17,527 --> 00:54:18,827 And he paid for my wife, 915 00:54:19,027 --> 00:54:21,046 who wasn't my wife at the time, she was my girlfriend. 916 00:54:21,245 --> 00:54:25,417 She'd tell me all the anecdotes from the trip, which I experienced later. 917 00:54:25,917 --> 00:54:28,356 I mean, it was a number, 918 00:54:28,685 --> 00:54:30,045 it was... 919 00:54:30,925 --> 00:54:33,205 A "Sentmenat" was a Seven Up; 920 00:54:33,405 --> 00:54:37,212 the "Tutti Frutti" was the Duty Free and so on. 921 00:54:37,362 --> 00:54:41,645 It was like a cartoon family going to Mexico. 922 00:54:42,005 --> 00:54:46,205 So you'd end up in one of those open-grill Japanese restaurants, 923 00:54:46,525 --> 00:54:49,485 a super awesome one, between this guy and that guy, 924 00:54:49,645 --> 00:54:52,145 these people who'd just come from a humble neighborhood... 925 00:54:52,256 --> 00:54:55,702 We were in Distrito Federal with the parents, 926 00:54:55,927 --> 00:54:59,742 and they were delighted to watch some of the kids' performances. 927 00:54:59,925 --> 00:55:03,630 They were in the best hotels, all expenses paid, 928 00:55:03,802 --> 00:55:07,504 and so the parents were happy, the kids were happy, and I was happy too. 929 00:55:09,352 --> 00:55:13,325 So, at the Aztec Pavilion in Mexico again, 930 00:55:13,405 --> 00:55:16,118 it was a more exclusive gig 931 00:55:16,244 --> 00:55:20,394 and let's say the venue's capacity was 6,500 people, 932 00:55:20,525 --> 00:55:23,855 really expensive tickets and all that, they crammed in 10,000. 933 00:55:23,967 --> 00:55:27,767 It was a stage set up in a marquee, a bit like a circus, but not. 934 00:55:28,005 --> 00:55:30,537 What happens? That marquee was sweltering. 935 00:55:30,725 --> 00:55:32,347 And it started to rain sweat. 936 00:55:32,497 --> 00:55:35,165 The climate in there was inhumane. 937 00:55:35,325 --> 00:55:37,405 We had to change them several times. 938 00:55:37,485 --> 00:55:40,965 The parents were at that one, everyone's parents, as guests. 939 00:55:41,045 --> 00:55:43,365 I remember one mother thought it was unbearable, 940 00:55:43,485 --> 00:55:46,085 so the next day she didn't go to see her daughter sweat. 941 00:55:46,220 --> 00:55:49,180 And I said, "Come on, if your daughter can sweat, you can sweat! 942 00:55:49,285 --> 00:55:53,165 At least you'll be able to buy yourself something with her money." 943 00:55:53,245 --> 00:55:55,405 Well, anyway, I had my problems with them. 944 00:56:09,737 --> 00:56:16,605 I'd say the most significant performance by Parchís in their artistic career 945 00:56:16,805 --> 00:56:21,005 was in the Aztec Stadium, without a doubt. 946 00:56:21,127 --> 00:56:22,685 AZTEC STADIUM 947 00:56:23,405 --> 00:56:25,612 One of the anecdotes from those two days 948 00:56:25,725 --> 00:56:30,725 is that I remember this kid who was begging, who called us... 949 00:56:33,456 --> 00:56:35,865 I remember seeing that kid get right to the front row 950 00:56:35,965 --> 00:56:38,380 and he spent the whole concert with his arms out like a cross. 951 00:56:39,050 --> 00:56:41,070 This is America 952 00:56:41,195 --> 00:56:43,292 He was a kid who had been begging so he could end up 953 00:56:43,405 --> 00:56:45,233 listening with his arms stretched out. 954 00:56:45,308 --> 00:56:46,808 That made an impression on me. 955 00:56:47,045 --> 00:56:51,205 America, a paradise beyond compare 956 00:56:53,525 --> 00:56:55,365 I remember a performance 957 00:56:55,525 --> 00:57:01,965 in a place called Bosques del Lago, north of Distrito Federal. 958 00:57:02,325 --> 00:57:04,325 We had to get to the location by helicopter. 959 00:57:04,459 --> 00:57:09,841 It was impossible by car because so many people would be arriving. 960 00:57:10,032 --> 00:57:13,261 I remember getting on that stage and starting to cry 961 00:57:13,982 --> 00:57:16,685 from the excitement, or rather the awe, 962 00:57:16,765 --> 00:57:20,645 of standing in front of over 100,000 people. 963 00:57:23,725 --> 00:57:28,165 It's something that for a child, maybe I was ten or eleven then, 964 00:57:28,765 --> 00:57:32,325 it really struck me, and I sang the first two songs crying. 965 00:57:32,535 --> 00:57:35,015 PERUVIAN CORPORATION OF AIRPORTS AND COMMERCIAL FLIGHT 966 00:57:36,242 --> 00:57:38,889 The biggest reception we had was in Peru. 967 00:57:39,079 --> 00:57:41,673 "PARCHÍS FEVER" CAUSES DESTRUCTION AND INJURY 968 00:57:41,797 --> 00:57:43,637 We arrived in Lima and the airport was overrun 969 00:57:43,737 --> 00:57:45,315 by a mass of fans who were waiting for us. 970 00:57:45,415 --> 00:57:46,580 PARCHÍS CAUSES PATCHES 971 00:57:48,445 --> 00:57:52,085 Well, that was a flood of people. It was incredible. 972 00:57:52,285 --> 00:57:55,885 I especially remember the day they performed in Madison Square Garden, 973 00:57:56,045 --> 00:57:58,525 which was really full of people. 974 00:57:58,725 --> 00:58:01,125 Kisses, lots of kisses from Parchís 975 00:58:04,565 --> 00:58:06,725 We didn't play alone in the Madison. 976 00:58:06,885 --> 00:58:11,165 I remember there were other bands like Los Chamos, from Venezuela, 977 00:58:11,245 --> 00:58:12,725 Luis Miguel was there... 978 00:58:12,885 --> 00:58:15,285 Going to New York, climbing the Empire State Building, 979 00:58:15,405 --> 00:58:18,525 seeing the city and then playing there, 980 00:58:18,685 --> 00:58:21,582 being one of the first, or one of the few, Spaniards 981 00:58:21,682 --> 00:58:23,125 who have managed to perform there... 982 00:58:23,205 --> 00:58:24,845 It was always for the Latino audience, 983 00:58:25,045 --> 00:58:27,345 because we didn't cross over to the English-speaking market, 984 00:58:27,445 --> 00:58:29,520 but it was a real landmark moment, it's still important. 985 00:58:30,565 --> 00:58:34,605 This is America, America 986 00:58:37,342 --> 00:58:39,042 We devoured Menudo. 987 00:58:39,147 --> 00:58:40,547 PARCHÍS VS MENUDO WHO IS BETTER? 988 00:58:40,667 --> 00:58:42,302 We devoured everyone. 989 00:58:42,452 --> 00:58:44,925 I mention Menudo because they were our competition. 990 00:58:45,045 --> 00:58:47,132 We devoured the child entertainment world. 991 00:58:47,232 --> 00:58:48,447 NOT AFRAID OF THE COMPETITION 992 00:58:48,827 --> 00:58:51,532 We devoured consecrated performers. 993 00:58:51,725 --> 00:58:53,925 Success meant that there was Parchís chewing gum, 994 00:58:54,085 --> 00:58:56,365 Parchís weekly comics, 995 00:58:56,445 --> 00:58:58,085 there were all sorts of things. 996 00:59:01,592 --> 00:59:05,509 Parchís were on every program. Parchís were in every commercial. 997 00:59:05,707 --> 00:59:08,805 Before the TV test card, there was Parchís. 998 00:59:08,956 --> 00:59:11,737 They were everywhere, Parchís sold itself. 999 00:59:11,968 --> 00:59:15,966 At the beginning, I worked for it to be a success, 1000 00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:19,354 not for it to be a social phenomenon. 1001 00:59:20,125 --> 00:59:22,035 And Parchís didn't have success. 1002 00:59:22,285 --> 00:59:24,440 Parchís was a social phenomenon. 1003 00:59:26,045 --> 00:59:32,005 It was a time in Mexico, and probably in all of the Spanish-speaking world, 1004 00:59:32,165 --> 00:59:35,873 in which children's music wasn't made by children. 1005 00:59:36,245 --> 00:59:39,685 We had adults singing to children. 1006 00:59:40,965 --> 00:59:44,273 They were the first band who represented us as a generation... 1007 00:59:44,447 --> 00:59:45,772 BENNY IBARRA TIMBIRICHE 1008 00:59:45,902 --> 00:59:47,176 ...as far as music is concerned. 1009 00:59:47,326 --> 00:59:50,325 It was very interesting. Obviously it was very colorful, 1010 00:59:51,485 --> 00:59:55,045 it was well made, it was an intelligent product. 1011 00:59:55,205 --> 00:59:59,917 Parchís' success has instigated the appearance of many bands. 1012 01:00:00,122 --> 01:00:04,747 I'm told that in Spain, at least 15 kids' bands have arisen 1013 01:00:04,897 --> 01:00:07,826 because they all think they will enjoy Parchís' success. 1014 01:00:08,020 --> 01:00:10,900 I personally feel that sequels have never been as good; 1015 01:00:11,150 --> 01:00:13,430 he who lands the first blow lands two, 1016 01:00:13,606 --> 01:00:16,365 Whether on a kids' level, Parchís, or a teenage level, Menudo. 1017 01:00:16,588 --> 01:00:19,794 They'd say that all those bands were disposable and fake. 1018 01:00:19,895 --> 01:00:21,219 LUIS DE LLANO TV PRODUCER 1019 01:00:21,365 --> 01:00:25,325 And now they're the ones filling national concert halls. 1020 01:00:25,405 --> 01:00:28,872 All the performers from the '80s, whatever age they may have been, 1021 01:00:28,997 --> 01:00:30,845 are currently the important artists in Mexico. 1022 01:00:31,229 --> 01:00:33,241 It's true that prospects improved. 1023 01:00:33,445 --> 01:00:37,083 And it's true that, being motivated by our success, 1024 01:00:37,205 --> 01:00:40,005 new bands appeared, such as Timbiriche. 1025 01:00:40,365 --> 01:00:44,165 Timbiriche was created by Televisa to demolish Parchís. 1026 01:00:45,325 --> 01:00:48,085 Do you know what Timbiriche is? 1027 01:00:48,455 --> 01:00:50,397 Yes! 1028 01:00:50,565 --> 01:00:51,530 Well... 1029 01:00:51,630 --> 01:00:53,005 To us it's... 1030 01:00:53,165 --> 01:00:55,245 -A game! -A dream! 1031 01:00:56,565 --> 01:00:57,885 A story! 1032 01:00:58,845 --> 01:01:01,299 Fortunately, Miguel Bosé took them under his wing. 1033 01:01:01,645 --> 01:01:03,725 He started to make introductions. 1034 01:01:03,965 --> 01:01:07,765 And after a while, Parchís returned to Mexico, 1035 01:01:08,045 --> 01:01:11,445 and we decided to do a double gig, Parchís-Timbiriche. 1036 01:01:11,765 --> 01:01:14,645 And we decided it would be in the Palacio de los Deportes. 1037 01:01:15,725 --> 01:01:16,885 DIEGO SCHOENING TIMBIRICHE 1038 01:01:16,965 --> 01:01:18,645 You looked at the ticket and it said, 1039 01:01:18,725 --> 01:01:21,365 "Parchís", with that logo like inflated balloons, huge... 1040 01:01:21,605 --> 01:01:24,165 "Timbiriche." Tiny... 1041 01:01:24,445 --> 01:01:27,525 This is America, America 1042 01:01:28,925 --> 01:01:30,205 Parchís comes out and... 1043 01:01:30,885 --> 01:01:33,765 Honestly... Look, I well up... 1044 01:01:34,085 --> 01:01:38,125 It was collapsing from the kids' screams. 1045 01:01:38,775 --> 01:01:42,504 America, America, America 1046 01:01:42,725 --> 01:01:43,725 Thank you! 1047 01:01:43,925 --> 01:01:46,805 And then, "With all of you. Timbiriche!" 1048 01:01:48,525 --> 01:01:52,645 With all of you, Timbiriche singing "La Vida es Mejor Cantando!" 1049 01:01:54,405 --> 01:01:56,525 And half way through the gig it was like... 1050 01:01:56,605 --> 01:01:58,076 "With all of you, Parchís!" 1051 01:01:58,645 --> 01:01:59,931 "With all of you, Timbiriche!" 1052 01:02:04,774 --> 01:02:07,414 That was the moment when they said, "Hang on... 1053 01:02:08,925 --> 01:02:13,725 We're going to have to start separating this, because it's a monster." 1054 01:02:14,645 --> 01:02:17,685 See you soon To the old and the young! 1055 01:02:18,325 --> 01:02:21,045 Friends of Parchís 1056 01:02:21,914 --> 01:02:25,350 And in the Parchís-Timbiriche gig, something very weird happened. 1057 01:02:25,899 --> 01:02:28,388 I don't know if you guys have been told about it. 1058 01:02:29,267 --> 01:02:33,129 Paulina Rubio fell madly in love with David. 1059 01:02:34,725 --> 01:02:38,805 So, Paulina, who was kind of the leader of Timbiriche, 1060 01:02:39,045 --> 01:02:43,285 forced constant meetings between Parchís and Timbiriche 1061 01:02:43,445 --> 01:02:45,146 so she could see David. 1062 01:02:45,445 --> 01:02:48,991 Then suddenly, I liked one of the girls. Paulina, that is. 1063 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,000 And I can assure you she wasn't half as pretty as she is now. 1064 01:02:53,285 --> 01:02:55,885 And we had a relationship based on friendship. 1065 01:02:55,965 --> 01:02:58,965 It was no longer the commitment we'd had imposed upon us 1066 01:02:59,085 --> 01:03:02,194 to share a stage or television shows. 1067 01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:05,165 We did want to meet up when we had time off. 1068 01:03:05,485 --> 01:03:09,165 What do you think of the girls from the band Parchís? 1069 01:03:10,845 --> 01:03:14,297 I remember always getting on very well with Frank. 1070 01:03:14,623 --> 01:03:18,165 Tino was the eldest, even older than us, 1071 01:03:18,245 --> 01:03:20,457 and there was a great admiration for him. 1072 01:03:22,125 --> 01:03:25,845 Our house in Mexico was two blocks from hers 1073 01:03:25,925 --> 01:03:28,685 so I'd go to see her or she'd come... 1074 01:03:28,765 --> 01:03:33,245 And... Well... There was a sort of an innocent relationship between two kids 1075 01:03:33,325 --> 01:03:35,685 who like each other and who share a reality, 1076 01:03:35,765 --> 01:03:38,485 which is to be famous and that... 1077 01:03:38,765 --> 01:03:42,005 I'd make a joke in the Parchís era. I'd say, 1078 01:03:42,085 --> 01:03:45,005 "If only Herod appeared again and killed all the kids." 1079 01:03:45,165 --> 01:03:49,645 Because now all parents want to make their kids famous and live off them 1080 01:03:49,805 --> 01:03:51,121 and milk the cow. 1081 01:03:52,445 --> 01:03:56,245 The thing with the fans and the madness came more from the parents. 1082 01:03:57,165 --> 01:03:58,845 And oftentimes from the mothers. 1083 01:03:59,165 --> 01:04:00,351 I learned... 1084 01:04:01,045 --> 01:04:04,845 that when a woman goes up to Julio Iglesias to get an autograph 1085 01:04:05,085 --> 01:04:06,885 and Julio Iglesias doesn't do it, 1086 01:04:07,685 --> 01:04:10,925 the woman turns away slightly irritated and leaves. 1087 01:04:12,085 --> 01:04:15,165 But when a mother approaches a member of Parchís, 1088 01:04:15,325 --> 01:04:18,765 asking for an autograph for her son or daughter, 1089 01:04:19,405 --> 01:04:21,195 and Tino doesn't give her one, 1090 01:04:21,925 --> 01:04:25,075 the woman grabs Tino by the neck and strangles him. 1091 01:04:25,450 --> 01:04:26,525 She assaults him. 1092 01:04:26,805 --> 01:04:30,523 And the problem is that all five of them had to give it to you. 1093 01:04:33,405 --> 01:04:35,245 How did we resolve it? 1094 01:04:36,045 --> 01:04:38,805 "Here's your postcard, madam, and please don't kill anybody." 1095 01:04:40,303 --> 01:04:43,846 Of course, people sometimes adapt to the role they're given, 1096 01:04:44,315 --> 01:04:45,623 so... 1097 01:04:46,023 --> 01:04:49,410 they were very similar to what people saw. 1098 01:04:56,045 --> 01:05:01,485 The projected image was pretty, beautiful and pleasant, 1099 01:05:01,565 --> 01:05:03,965 while there was another part that was less so. 1100 01:05:04,205 --> 01:05:06,880 But their personality was quite similar 1101 01:05:06,955 --> 01:05:10,565 to the personality that was sold to the public. 1102 01:05:11,135 --> 01:05:13,390 It's Parchís' crazy beat 1103 01:05:13,535 --> 01:05:16,315 With five different kids it wouldn't have been that successful. 1104 01:05:17,090 --> 01:05:19,570 Not because we were special, but because 1105 01:05:19,655 --> 01:05:22,335 we were perfect fits for the roles given to us. 1106 01:05:22,704 --> 01:05:25,862 It was coincidence that I had... 1107 01:05:26,205 --> 01:05:29,885 that part of the audience made up of moms, grandmas, and the little girls, 1108 01:05:30,325 --> 01:05:31,875 David had the undecided, 1109 01:05:32,165 --> 01:05:34,285 Tino had the teenagers and older girls... 1110 01:05:38,955 --> 01:05:40,755 and above all, there was a girl war. 1111 01:05:41,414 --> 01:05:45,784 Because as Yolanda was the pretty one, the outgoing one, the exuberant one, 1112 01:05:45,850 --> 01:05:48,279 lots of girls backed Gemma. 1113 01:05:50,415 --> 01:05:52,607 There was an anti-Yolanda club. 1114 01:05:55,375 --> 01:05:59,024 The girls thought that Tino and I were together, 1115 01:05:59,185 --> 01:06:01,285 or that Tino was after me. And that meant competition. 1116 01:06:07,855 --> 01:06:11,419 When we introduced ourselves, mostly in Latin America, 1117 01:06:11,655 --> 01:06:15,813 they'd introduced Gemma, and... "Yay!" When they said Yolanda, 1118 01:06:15,935 --> 01:06:18,483 they booed me sometimes. "I haven't done a thing. 1119 01:06:18,655 --> 01:06:22,360 I've just shown up, why do you hate me so much?" 1120 01:06:22,575 --> 01:06:26,449 You see that people there love you in a different way, 1121 01:06:27,015 --> 01:06:31,615 maybe because they found me... more shy... I don't know why. 1122 01:06:33,883 --> 01:06:36,565 My favorite counter was Tino. 1123 01:06:37,537 --> 01:06:40,405 So I wanted to be Tino, to dress like him, 1124 01:06:40,695 --> 01:06:43,695 to see myself like him, to have his looks. 1125 01:06:43,952 --> 01:06:45,745 I'll prove that I am the best 1126 01:06:46,815 --> 01:06:48,646 I've defeated everyone 1127 01:06:48,905 --> 01:06:52,993 Because that moment that everyone has sky high bilirubin, 1128 01:06:53,118 --> 01:06:55,175 it's just natural, everyone is the same there. 1129 01:06:55,455 --> 01:06:57,185 You find yourself in a position 1130 01:06:57,409 --> 01:07:00,910 in a position of constant worship... 1131 01:07:01,255 --> 01:07:02,710 It is like that. 1132 01:07:02,861 --> 01:07:05,005 So often you're told, so often you're reminded, 1133 01:07:05,075 --> 01:07:08,004 and so often you perceive that feeling, 1134 01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:12,005 that you finally say, "Well, I must have something in me!" 1135 01:07:12,464 --> 01:07:17,624 The discovery that, "I seduce, I can, I'm liked, I'm admired..." 1136 01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:21,050 For these kids it was multiplied... 1137 01:07:22,215 --> 01:07:23,166 by a million, 1138 01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:25,350 because lots of people were looking at them. 1139 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:30,095 Lots of people were looking, not only with an attraction and a look of, 1140 01:07:30,145 --> 01:07:31,999 "You sing so well, and dance so well," and such, 1141 01:07:32,099 --> 01:07:34,901 but, "I really like you, you're so pretty, you're so handsome." 1142 01:07:35,290 --> 01:07:36,563 And that was contagious. 1143 01:07:39,340 --> 01:07:41,980 I might have been flirtatious, but I was just a girl. 1144 01:07:43,310 --> 01:07:47,565 And yeah, there probably were people who had... 1145 01:07:48,650 --> 01:07:49,609 had... 1146 01:07:51,372 --> 01:07:55,560 fantasies inappropriate for that age. 1147 01:07:55,729 --> 01:08:00,791 So, there was the kids' party, usually in the garden, 1148 01:08:00,941 --> 01:08:04,824 and the grown-ups' party, where there were substances that... 1149 01:08:04,999 --> 01:08:08,648 that weren't exactly gummy bears or anything like that. 1150 01:08:09,009 --> 01:08:10,183 There was a bit of everything. 1151 01:08:10,489 --> 01:08:11,666 VICKY VIVES TEACHER 1152 01:08:11,991 --> 01:08:16,630 At the parties, there were people who were interested, of course. 1153 01:08:16,705 --> 01:08:19,809 The girls looked cute. 1154 01:08:20,035 --> 01:08:22,586 So, there were... flies around the honey. 1155 01:08:22,685 --> 01:08:28,323 So you had to make sure that it didn't go any further. 1156 01:08:28,459 --> 01:08:32,228 For example, the protection of my own cousin, Yolanda, 1157 01:08:32,546 --> 01:08:35,209 because she was a target 1158 01:08:35,368 --> 01:08:39,929 for many businessmen, for many adult men. 1159 01:08:40,219 --> 01:08:42,849 I remember my mother would say, "Be a bit careful. 1160 01:08:42,929 --> 01:08:45,499 Because you sit on someone's lap, 1161 01:08:46,049 --> 01:08:48,451 and that someone might get the wrong idea." And I'd say, 1162 01:08:49,089 --> 01:08:51,961 "But how can they get the wrong idea? I'm just a kid." 1163 01:08:52,649 --> 01:08:55,609 By sitting on their lap, I mean... 1164 01:08:56,163 --> 01:08:58,009 They had daughters almost my age! 1165 01:08:58,139 --> 01:09:00,538 I think she liked to be liked, 1166 01:09:00,889 --> 01:09:04,268 by the young and the old, she liked to be liked, 1167 01:09:04,719 --> 01:09:09,100 but she was fifteen or sixteen, 1168 01:09:09,201 --> 01:09:12,618 she didn't want to be hassled. 1169 01:09:14,354 --> 01:09:17,057 Yolanda to me was... 1170 01:09:17,634 --> 01:09:21,634 beautiful, gorgeous. I fell in love and lived in love with Yolanda 1171 01:09:21,859 --> 01:09:23,281 from the age of nine. 1172 01:09:23,594 --> 01:09:25,474 Yolanda has been the love of my life. 1173 01:09:28,049 --> 01:09:30,889 But I was also very aware of the fact that Yolanda... 1174 01:09:32,104 --> 01:09:36,993 was growing and she had her suitors and there's nothing you can do about that. 1175 01:09:37,154 --> 01:09:39,594 You'll never guess who I ran into in line at the theater! 1176 01:09:46,734 --> 01:09:50,210 I think he loved me a lot and maybe I hurt him. 1177 01:09:51,974 --> 01:09:55,890 Not intentionally, but because I was... 1178 01:09:55,982 --> 01:09:58,781 Just that, someone else would come along, and he was very young 1179 01:09:58,831 --> 01:10:02,850 and liked Argenis from Los Chamos or I liked someone else and... 1180 01:10:03,059 --> 01:10:05,539 I'd become their girlfriend for that tour or those days. 1181 01:10:06,499 --> 01:10:07,497 Gorgeous! 1182 01:10:08,824 --> 01:10:11,314 Off limits for minors, kid. 1183 01:10:11,834 --> 01:10:14,370 I mean, I wouldn't mind getting to know her. 1184 01:10:14,470 --> 01:10:15,694 And get to know her you will. 1185 01:10:15,819 --> 01:10:18,263 Tino was by far the one who picked up the most girls. 1186 01:10:18,484 --> 01:10:20,764 Also, he was the eldest, 1187 01:10:20,869 --> 01:10:24,869 I mean he had a... His relationships weren't so much about... 1188 01:10:25,049 --> 01:10:26,360 sharing a couple of kisses. 1189 01:10:26,499 --> 01:10:29,179 Tino wasn't supposed to smoke, but he smoked. 1190 01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:30,657 He sometimes drank... 1191 01:10:30,761 --> 01:10:33,409 In truth, fortunately, he didn't really like alcohol. 1192 01:10:34,169 --> 01:10:36,981 He had sex at a very young age. 1193 01:10:38,614 --> 01:10:42,734 In a gratuitous way, to put it one way. 1194 01:10:42,889 --> 01:10:44,970 So of course, he was living a life... 1195 01:10:45,404 --> 01:10:49,364 similar to Justin Timberlake when he started at eighteen, 1196 01:10:49,569 --> 01:10:51,352 not to a kid of that age. 1197 01:10:51,713 --> 01:10:54,753 And that had been motivated by the people surrounding him. 1198 01:10:55,129 --> 01:10:58,969 As far as I know, Tino's father once 1199 01:10:59,049 --> 01:11:03,840 told him if he kept misbehaving, he'd throw him out of the house, 1200 01:11:04,065 --> 01:11:06,714 and he said, "But I paid for this house." 1201 01:11:07,534 --> 01:11:10,009 Tino, the contest is very easy, 1202 01:11:10,089 --> 01:11:13,529 you ask me if I want to go out with you and I respond that I do. 1203 01:11:13,689 --> 01:11:16,407 -And we've won, sweetie. -No. 1204 01:11:16,979 --> 01:11:20,299 Most of the brief relationships I've had, 1205 01:11:21,449 --> 01:11:25,449 needed to have more than "the heat of the moment." 1206 01:11:25,889 --> 01:11:28,289 So let's start with the questions. 1207 01:11:28,369 --> 01:11:31,347 I'm going to ask my first friend her first question: 1208 01:11:31,616 --> 01:11:32,791 What color eyes do you have? 1209 01:11:33,499 --> 01:11:36,459 I have green eyes. 1210 01:11:36,739 --> 01:11:39,819 -Green? -Yes, and I hope you really like them. 1211 01:11:39,974 --> 01:11:41,609 Well, yes, I really like them. 1212 01:11:42,889 --> 01:11:46,409 He'd sometimes boast about his great conquests, 1213 01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:49,604 but he always... 1214 01:11:50,009 --> 01:11:53,406 A lot of women liked him. And a lot of older women liked him. 1215 01:11:54,804 --> 01:11:56,444 He didn't go looking for them. 1216 01:11:56,649 --> 01:12:00,527 Well, maybe if he especially liked someone in particular, he'd go for her, 1217 01:12:00,821 --> 01:12:06,409 but I recollect women creeping into his bedroom. 1218 01:12:06,489 --> 01:12:09,267 I mean, they'd go into the bedroom and hide in the wardrobe. 1219 01:12:12,949 --> 01:12:15,549 All set to do whatever he wanted. 1220 01:12:17,144 --> 01:12:20,078 I wasn't close, but I kept my eye on them. 1221 01:12:21,354 --> 01:12:23,354 You know? I couldn't allow... 1222 01:12:24,694 --> 01:12:29,645 in Parchís' house, for Tino to have an amorous relationship with a mother. 1223 01:12:31,009 --> 01:12:33,730 Aside from it being the death of the business, 1224 01:12:34,689 --> 01:12:36,769 we'd all go to jail. 1225 01:12:39,849 --> 01:12:43,968 In the most auspicious moments they'd hire a chalet. 1226 01:12:44,769 --> 01:12:46,809 In Mexico, for example, in the Pedregal area, 1227 01:12:46,889 --> 01:12:51,032 there were three ladies there who looked after us. 1228 01:12:51,654 --> 01:12:54,522 From an operational standpoint, 1229 01:12:54,697 --> 01:12:58,017 for adults and elders it would be less practical, 1230 01:12:58,274 --> 01:13:00,794 but for us it was a lot more comfortable. 1231 01:13:03,254 --> 01:13:06,934 One day they're like, "We're going to show you the house," 1232 01:13:07,329 --> 01:13:10,209 we see the house, the house was really big... 1233 01:13:11,083 --> 01:13:15,909 and the moment arrived and I asked, "And my room?" 1234 01:13:16,444 --> 01:13:19,644 And the answer was, "There's no room for you here." 1235 01:13:21,339 --> 01:13:25,459 I was being separated from my duty, from my responsibility. 1236 01:13:25,930 --> 01:13:30,689 I think that there was a... power struggle 1237 01:13:31,169 --> 01:13:34,701 between the manager, who at that time was Berlanga, 1238 01:13:36,169 --> 01:13:40,207 the record label and their representative, and the parents. 1239 01:13:40,947 --> 01:13:43,129 And I think Berlanga was playing his hand 1240 01:13:43,209 --> 01:13:45,630 because he saw that Parchís had a real future. 1241 01:13:45,954 --> 01:13:49,300 I think Parchís had a real future and they generated a lot of money. 1242 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:54,673 Well, we carried on our activities, our work, the shows and so on, 1243 01:13:55,312 --> 01:13:59,489 but there was an increasing hold up with payments. 1244 01:13:59,849 --> 01:14:02,772 I was probably Parchís' most fun adventure. 1245 01:14:03,179 --> 01:14:04,699 But I wasn't... 1246 01:14:05,594 --> 01:14:09,314 The big money came from the movies. I wasn't Bermúdez de Castro, 1247 01:14:09,444 --> 01:14:11,117 I didn't make any movies. 1248 01:14:11,314 --> 01:14:14,114 I had nothing to do with the records either. 1249 01:14:14,354 --> 01:14:15,554 We were in the dressing room, 1250 01:14:15,929 --> 01:14:19,449 and I asked when I was going to get paid. 1251 01:14:20,184 --> 01:14:24,424 He said no, that he couldn't, or maybe later on or whatever, 1252 01:14:24,914 --> 01:14:28,194 and that's when I got serious. 1253 01:14:29,019 --> 01:14:34,534 I said, "If I don't get paid, the kids don't sing today." 1254 01:14:35,487 --> 01:14:39,129 There was an upheaval and the kids went out to perform, 1255 01:14:39,209 --> 01:14:43,537 amongst other things because they, the band, the team, 1256 01:14:43,619 --> 01:14:45,899 said they would, 1257 01:14:46,509 --> 01:14:50,109 and my authority meant nothing. 1258 01:14:51,202 --> 01:14:52,399 I went back to the hotel, 1259 01:14:53,082 --> 01:14:57,424 and I was told that someone had been looking for me. 1260 01:14:58,154 --> 01:15:01,914 They suggested it might be better to leave the hotel. 1261 01:15:02,349 --> 01:15:05,767 Something weird happened. I didn't really know, 1262 01:15:05,870 --> 01:15:07,754 but there was a very tense situation, 1263 01:15:08,419 --> 01:15:11,649 nobody knew what was going on, at night... I don't know. 1264 01:15:11,969 --> 01:15:15,026 He was in a hotel called Presidente Chapultepec, 1265 01:15:15,409 --> 01:15:17,969 and he asked me to go up to his room to get his bag, 1266 01:15:18,099 --> 01:15:21,132 because he was afraid there might be someone there to shoot him. 1267 01:15:22,129 --> 01:15:23,609 They called me... 1268 01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:27,506 from Discos Belter telling me to return to Barcelona. 1269 01:15:29,504 --> 01:15:31,384 I explained everything that had happened 1270 01:15:32,239 --> 01:15:34,007 and then... 1271 01:15:35,009 --> 01:15:36,729 I was told that... 1272 01:15:37,569 --> 01:15:43,817 that I hadn't been, let's say, honest with the kids. 1273 01:15:44,854 --> 01:15:48,454 That I had duped them, and this, that and the other, 1274 01:15:48,659 --> 01:15:53,419 and that I'd better hand in my resignation. 1275 01:15:54,294 --> 01:15:55,270 And... 1276 01:16:03,229 --> 01:16:05,191 And on the second tour Janer disappeared. 1277 01:16:06,174 --> 01:16:09,574 I don't even know who was stealing from whom, 1278 01:16:11,704 --> 01:16:15,591 how often and in what way, but it's... 1279 01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:20,344 It seemed almost like... like out of a nightmare, 1280 01:16:20,989 --> 01:16:22,454 because... 1281 01:16:22,759 --> 01:16:26,199 you didn't know who the good guys were and who the bad guys were. 1282 01:16:26,444 --> 01:16:30,203 Now we know our money winds up in that dirty investor's bank. 1283 01:16:30,729 --> 01:16:34,249 What really bothers me is that he kept everything we made on the TV program. 1284 01:16:34,454 --> 01:16:38,075 Yes, they'd made a lot of money, this tour here, that tour there... 1285 01:16:38,150 --> 01:16:40,525 CARMEN TERÉS - FRANK'S MOTHER MATEO DÍAZ - FRANK'S FATHER 1286 01:16:40,596 --> 01:16:43,340 And then came expenses: hotels, travel, personal expenses... 1287 01:16:45,099 --> 01:16:49,699 Belter's share, the manager's share, the other guy's part. 1288 01:16:50,169 --> 01:16:52,969 A sort of mini-corporation is created. 1289 01:16:53,209 --> 01:16:55,529 A mini-corporation in which Belter... 1290 01:16:55,655 --> 01:16:57,257 PLATINUM RECORD FOR PARCHÍS 1291 01:16:57,406 --> 01:17:00,049 ...necessarily but unduly, from my perspective, 1292 01:17:00,193 --> 01:17:06,734 also becomes the band's manager, obviously with the parents' consent. 1293 01:17:06,999 --> 01:17:12,277 A relationship with the parents that, if I remember correctly, was 70-30. 1294 01:17:12,919 --> 01:17:16,599 And yeah, Parchís, on one tour, made 10,000 dollars per show, 1295 01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:21,319 but when the peso was devalued, they made 2,500 per show. 1296 01:17:21,684 --> 01:17:23,357 So when you do a tour in which... 1297 01:17:23,674 --> 01:17:26,962 the whole tour leaves you with 200,000 dollars, 1298 01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:29,329 and out of that 200,000 dollars, 1299 01:17:30,929 --> 01:17:33,449 140,000 goes to Discos Belter 1300 01:17:33,809 --> 01:17:37,129 and 60,000 gets split between five families, 1301 01:17:37,209 --> 01:17:40,355 that's only 12,000 dollars per family. 1302 01:17:40,755 --> 01:17:42,180 Come on, you're not David Bowie, 1303 01:17:42,694 --> 01:17:45,928 you're not Eric Clapton, you're not the Rolling Stones. 1304 01:17:47,254 --> 01:17:51,054 But the idiot who was managing you in Mexico put you on a private jet, 1305 01:17:51,409 --> 01:17:54,229 okay, sue him for psychological damage. 1306 01:17:54,939 --> 01:17:56,013 It's my fault. 1307 01:17:56,574 --> 01:18:00,497 The first time we were paid a commission for records 1308 01:18:00,989 --> 01:18:05,389 it was 100,000 pesetas per head, each child. 1309 01:18:05,749 --> 01:18:09,084 I think that the label that owned the rights, 1310 01:18:09,519 --> 01:18:13,199 say Musart in Mexico, Discos América in Peru, 1311 01:18:13,659 --> 01:18:18,156 would tell Disco Belter they'd sold 100,000, 1312 01:18:18,710 --> 01:18:20,495 and maybe they'd sold a million copies. 1313 01:18:21,424 --> 01:18:23,544 From abroad, nothing. 1314 01:18:23,749 --> 01:18:25,909 We'd always say, "Well, and this..." 1315 01:18:26,214 --> 01:18:30,254 And they said, "We're missing figures from here and from there, 1316 01:18:30,584 --> 01:18:33,590 we have to get the numbers straight, we have to this and that..." 1317 01:18:34,559 --> 01:18:39,279 And we were never paid anything else for records. 1318 01:18:39,544 --> 01:18:41,424 So, viewed from their perspective, 1319 01:18:41,634 --> 01:18:44,205 you think, "With all the sacrifices I've made, 1320 01:18:44,639 --> 01:18:46,515 I've ruined my childhood," 1321 01:18:47,299 --> 01:18:48,990 because they ruined their childhoods. 1322 01:18:49,519 --> 01:18:52,885 "With all the work I've done, and the sacrifices from that, 1323 01:18:53,369 --> 01:18:54,707 I've only made this? 1324 01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:58,332 I've been ripped off, I've been robbed." 1325 01:18:59,834 --> 01:19:03,594 Frank asked me: "Did you ever have a contract 1326 01:19:03,923 --> 01:19:05,949 where it said 2,000 dollars, 1327 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,374 and you were paid 3,000, but you made them write 2,000?" 1328 01:19:13,134 --> 01:19:14,468 Never ever. 1329 01:19:15,139 --> 01:19:16,459 Never ever. 1330 01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:20,801 I'm talking about those famous 600-million pesetas 1331 01:19:21,789 --> 01:19:26,144 that, when Ignacio Janer was kicked out of the record label, 1332 01:19:26,277 --> 01:19:30,104 I thought or I'd heard or I'd imagined, 1333 01:19:30,609 --> 01:19:32,046 he'd supposedly stolen. 1334 01:19:32,683 --> 01:19:39,489 I think that was a setup by management, or I'm not sure whom, 1335 01:19:39,984 --> 01:19:42,824 but as soon as money came in, it disappeared. 1336 01:19:43,129 --> 01:19:45,747 What I do know is that they generated a lot of money. 1337 01:19:46,044 --> 01:19:47,187 A lot of money. 1338 01:19:47,759 --> 01:19:50,159 And that money wound up somewhere. 1339 01:19:51,234 --> 01:19:55,844 I don't think it was that guy or any other in particular; it was the sum of many, 1340 01:19:56,164 --> 01:19:57,935 the sum of lots of these things, 1341 01:19:58,034 --> 01:20:02,994 but we're in a world where that happens a lot. 1342 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:04,519 That is... 1343 01:20:05,034 --> 01:20:08,194 I think I directed twelve films and I still don't know what they cost. 1344 01:20:08,654 --> 01:20:13,254 I think for the families, I guess it got to a point 1345 01:20:13,409 --> 01:20:16,521 where their kids could make a lot of money, 1346 01:20:16,769 --> 01:20:21,778 and they never considered if it was too much pressure for them, 1347 01:20:22,074 --> 01:20:27,034 if all those months away from their homes and their families could harm them. 1348 01:20:27,186 --> 01:20:29,011 But it was their fault. 1349 01:20:30,624 --> 01:20:31,744 And that's that. 1350 01:20:32,014 --> 01:20:37,254 Then, sure, a very bad record label, some evil men, some exploiters, 1351 01:20:37,384 --> 01:20:38,996 whatever, but they're your kids. 1352 01:20:40,374 --> 01:20:41,734 There's no excuse. 1353 01:20:42,609 --> 01:20:45,609 We were also... Look, a surprise like that, 1354 01:20:45,689 --> 01:20:49,537 from one day to the next your child is picked up by such a famous band, 1355 01:20:49,849 --> 01:20:54,417 of course, the last thing we were thinking about was money. 1356 01:20:54,667 --> 01:20:55,929 We weren't going to argue. 1357 01:20:56,049 --> 01:21:01,772 To get on track, he should have asked work for some time off 1358 01:21:01,879 --> 01:21:04,279 to see how everything was going, to see the accounts... 1359 01:21:04,434 --> 01:21:06,652 He didn't bother. The others didn't bother either... 1360 01:21:06,754 --> 01:21:08,554 -I had a lot of work. -Nobody bothered. 1361 01:21:08,779 --> 01:21:11,979 And then the final, final conflict, 1362 01:21:12,429 --> 01:21:16,744 came when... there was an offer for the kids. 1363 01:21:17,674 --> 01:21:20,797 A contract appeared from Disneyland, the people from Disney, 1364 01:21:21,692 --> 01:21:25,264 from Parker board games and from Atari. 1365 01:21:25,607 --> 01:21:27,457 These people came with a proposal. 1366 01:21:27,634 --> 01:21:30,954 What they wanted was to take Parchís and... 1367 01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:33,664 give it a Yankee twist, if you get me. 1368 01:21:33,935 --> 01:21:36,544 And we'll fulfill the Latin American dream, right? 1369 01:21:36,649 --> 01:21:39,689 The Latino kids who end up making it 1370 01:21:39,769 --> 01:21:43,168 will be on the stage at Disneyland or Disney World or whatever. 1371 01:21:44,139 --> 01:21:46,292 They got us really excited about the project. 1372 01:21:47,114 --> 01:21:48,514 It was... 1373 01:21:48,949 --> 01:21:51,789 the best really is yet to come. 1374 01:21:52,234 --> 01:21:54,274 A beautiful world 1375 01:21:54,379 --> 01:21:56,179 You were able to build 1376 01:21:56,284 --> 01:21:58,623 The Disney project had a problem: 1377 01:21:59,249 --> 01:22:03,849 The kids, the five kids, had to go and live in the USA for a year 1378 01:22:04,019 --> 01:22:04,939 with no pay. 1379 01:22:05,739 --> 01:22:09,619 And they were going to get them English and singing and dance teachers 1380 01:22:09,999 --> 01:22:11,239 to make them professional. 1381 01:22:12,344 --> 01:22:14,144 How many dreams 1382 01:22:14,374 --> 01:22:16,142 You took flight 1383 01:22:17,024 --> 01:22:18,942 My parents discussed it with Joaquín, 1384 01:22:19,017 --> 01:22:22,049 so it wasn't just within Parchís, but within the family, 1385 01:22:22,129 --> 01:22:23,487 especially at that time. 1386 01:22:23,588 --> 01:22:27,462 Joaquín was who we consulted to see if this could be a good thing. 1387 01:22:27,754 --> 01:22:30,917 And as things stood, in view of what appeared in the future, 1388 01:22:31,044 --> 01:22:33,084 and as the parents weren't going to give up 1389 01:22:33,229 --> 01:22:34,815 on their kids continuing to perform, 1390 01:22:35,304 --> 01:22:37,384 it seemed like a very good option. 1391 01:22:38,815 --> 01:22:40,982 Living with joy 1392 01:22:41,224 --> 01:22:43,464 And the kids more or less agreed, too. 1393 01:22:43,864 --> 01:22:48,122 But the record label wasn't involved, they missed out. 1394 01:22:48,329 --> 01:22:52,022 Everything is possible Here in Disney World 1395 01:22:52,209 --> 01:22:57,309 Rudy Ventura and I went to Mexico, we spoke to them, 1396 01:22:57,689 --> 01:23:01,827 they explained the contract, all about the conditions... 1397 01:23:02,409 --> 01:23:05,282 One of their conditions, according to Jorge, 1398 01:23:05,429 --> 01:23:07,257 was that there had to be all five of us, 1399 01:23:07,994 --> 01:23:10,754 because we wouldn't be able to keep the name if there wasn't. 1400 01:23:10,984 --> 01:23:13,424 Belter obviously wouldn't want that. 1401 01:23:13,529 --> 01:23:15,542 This was being done in secret. 1402 01:23:17,289 --> 01:23:19,207 Well, not all the parents agreed. 1403 01:23:20,009 --> 01:23:22,702 For instance, legal doubts appeared; 1404 01:23:22,984 --> 01:23:25,329 "Can we break the contract with the label?" 1405 01:23:26,224 --> 01:23:27,064 Just an example. 1406 01:23:27,474 --> 01:23:31,634 I think it all happened very fast and someone mouthed off. 1407 01:23:32,989 --> 01:23:36,599 I came back to Spain to meet up with the five families, 1408 01:23:36,754 --> 01:23:38,902 who were all very decent and charming, 1409 01:23:39,264 --> 01:23:43,504 and four of the families accepted the Disney project, 1410 01:23:43,584 --> 01:23:44,664 but one didn't. 1411 01:23:45,339 --> 01:23:50,874 And when we got back to Spain, we were met with a huge surprise, 1412 01:23:52,129 --> 01:23:58,104 which was that Belter had stolen Tino. 1413 01:23:59,254 --> 01:24:02,694 There had been a conspiracy, 1414 01:24:03,184 --> 01:24:07,832 something working against someone, who, for better or worse, 1415 01:24:08,449 --> 01:24:11,369 had been with us for four or five years of our career 1416 01:24:11,449 --> 01:24:13,889 and who was the only valid reference we had, 1417 01:24:13,969 --> 01:24:17,082 because what we had accomplished, we'd accomplished with them, 1418 01:24:17,374 --> 01:24:18,332 with Belter. 1419 01:24:19,363 --> 01:24:24,163 So when we got back, we spoke to Tino's father; 1420 01:24:25,194 --> 01:24:28,834 "How can this be? Do you know what you've done? 1421 01:24:29,289 --> 01:24:31,569 You've destroyed the success 1422 01:24:31,699 --> 01:24:33,899 and everything that Parchís has done until now, 1423 01:24:34,129 --> 01:24:35,962 you've just destroyed it with this." 1424 01:24:36,349 --> 01:24:39,669 We were at a point where I was sixteen, 1425 01:24:40,254 --> 01:24:44,934 and I was starting to feel a bit oppressed 1426 01:24:45,614 --> 01:24:47,894 in the red Parchís dungarees. 1427 01:24:48,349 --> 01:24:52,342 And I wanted to express things in music 1428 01:24:52,674 --> 01:24:57,012 other than the red train that's heading to the little house in Canada. 1429 01:24:57,419 --> 01:24:59,007 And when Tino left, 1430 01:24:59,599 --> 01:25:02,959 if the financial problem was already bad, 1431 01:25:03,169 --> 01:25:05,687 because of Parchís' situation in Mexico, 1432 01:25:06,809 --> 01:25:09,097 it was the end of Parchís in Latin America. 1433 01:25:11,609 --> 01:25:13,049 The band had a life cycle. 1434 01:25:13,147 --> 01:25:15,334 You never knew if the cycle was two years long or twenty. 1435 01:25:15,593 --> 01:25:17,193 But every band has a cycle. 1436 01:25:17,414 --> 01:25:21,997 I think that we were made the offer when we were already in decline. 1437 01:25:22,514 --> 01:25:25,674 I don't know if that would have been a sink to bounce back from, 1438 01:25:25,747 --> 01:25:27,954 or if we'd really have sunk to the bottom. 1439 01:25:29,854 --> 01:25:32,282 The last film, Parchís Takes Action, 1440 01:25:33,864 --> 01:25:36,075 we filmed it with him, but we weren't speaking to Tino, 1441 01:25:36,859 --> 01:25:39,352 because we thought that he had betrayed us. 1442 01:25:39,899 --> 01:25:41,219 That is, he left us... 1443 01:25:43,729 --> 01:25:44,609 hanging. 1444 01:25:52,984 --> 01:25:56,624 "Okay, cut!" And we'd go our way and Tino would go his way. 1445 01:25:56,779 --> 01:26:01,729 And throughout that month of filming we led completely separate lives. 1446 01:26:02,134 --> 01:26:06,494 And I know, because if I'd been dressed in blue or as a dice, 1447 01:26:07,004 --> 01:26:11,124 I'd have been seriously pissed off with everyone and I'd have felt like crap. 1448 01:26:11,429 --> 01:26:15,749 And I probably would have held a grudge this whole time, I don't know. 1449 01:26:16,194 --> 01:26:19,354 But I'd have been pissed off at that moment, for sure. 1450 01:26:21,869 --> 01:26:25,117 But what happened to me? I grew up before them, that's all. 1451 01:26:26,259 --> 01:26:29,082 And this is the spectacular night with... 1452 01:26:29,544 --> 01:26:30,544 Tino! 1453 01:26:35,449 --> 01:26:38,809 There are many questions to get to know this singer. 1454 01:26:38,919 --> 01:26:43,557 There are many questions to get to know this idol of the Latin American youth. 1455 01:26:44,595 --> 01:26:47,637 With courage, talk to me 1456 01:26:47,889 --> 01:26:50,089 In truth the first record went well. 1457 01:26:50,244 --> 01:26:53,917 There were lots of people in the audience who, like myself, had grown up, 1458 01:26:54,029 --> 01:26:57,709 and the first record went gold in Mexico and also Argentina. 1459 01:26:57,889 --> 01:27:00,403 Don't be afraid Let me love you 1460 01:27:00,889 --> 01:27:04,409 Let me hold you Let me feel you 1461 01:27:04,764 --> 01:27:07,364 My whole artistic period of four or five years 1462 01:27:07,704 --> 01:27:10,064 I'd been accompanied by them, and suddenly... 1463 01:27:10,331 --> 01:27:14,387 I perfectly remember the first feeling in a TV studio. 1464 01:27:14,714 --> 01:27:18,912 I look left and right and, hell, it scared me because... 1465 01:27:19,294 --> 01:27:20,654 they weren't there. 1466 01:27:23,579 --> 01:27:27,355 Do you consider yourself a sex symbol? You, along with Luis Miguel or Menudo. 1467 01:27:28,074 --> 01:27:31,914 Well, on a personal level, I don't consider myself a sex symbol. 1468 01:27:32,079 --> 01:27:33,577 Thing is... I don't know, 1469 01:27:34,204 --> 01:27:37,444 if people want me to come here to sing, I'll come here to sing. 1470 01:27:37,549 --> 01:27:40,549 And if people want me to keep working, I'll keep working, 1471 01:27:40,729 --> 01:27:42,365 but not as a sex symbol, but... 1472 01:27:42,449 --> 01:27:44,995 as a friend to all of you who loves you very much, that's all. 1473 01:27:45,264 --> 01:27:46,744 How lovely. Isn't he divine? 1474 01:27:47,134 --> 01:27:49,454 I don't think it benefitted any of them. 1475 01:27:50,284 --> 01:27:54,123 And both sides, despite Parchís continuing 1476 01:27:54,579 --> 01:27:56,979 for a while making records with Chus, 1477 01:27:57,329 --> 01:28:00,289 the magic has been lost. 1478 01:28:00,379 --> 01:28:02,254 But Chus also did a great job. 1479 01:28:04,049 --> 01:28:09,409 I want Sunday to arrive You also await it with glee 1480 01:28:10,487 --> 01:28:13,107 Chus was very valid on a music level, 1481 01:28:13,849 --> 01:28:15,517 on a dance level, 1482 01:28:15,924 --> 01:28:19,604 but I think what happened is that he felt a little... 1483 01:28:22,249 --> 01:28:23,609 He had it hard. 1484 01:28:24,169 --> 01:28:29,542 We'll have a nice drink Well made with ice and gin 1485 01:28:29,592 --> 01:28:32,049 They had the idea of doing something more juvenile, 1486 01:28:32,129 --> 01:28:33,782 because the songs were different, 1487 01:28:33,844 --> 01:28:36,524 they spoke about adolescence, about dating... 1488 01:28:36,664 --> 01:28:38,944 But it wasn't the same. 1489 01:28:39,764 --> 01:28:43,324 We'll share a cigarette 1490 01:28:44,534 --> 01:28:51,289 All the production, all that care was for Tino's solo album. 1491 01:28:53,393 --> 01:28:56,913 And we were like, "Well, until it ends." 1492 01:28:57,334 --> 01:28:59,814 Okay, take off your masks let's start rehearsal. 1493 01:29:00,909 --> 01:29:02,829 -Hey, a bone! -Forget about bones! 1494 01:29:02,959 --> 01:29:04,610 Let's start rehearsing, we've got a show. 1495 01:29:07,969 --> 01:29:13,289 Then when I saw that things... I saw a decline. 1496 01:29:13,559 --> 01:29:16,541 I want to see smiles, I want to see strong steps, all right? 1497 01:29:16,616 --> 01:29:17,625 It's only a rehearsal. 1498 01:29:17,748 --> 01:29:19,969 Strong steps, smiling. 1499 01:29:20,049 --> 01:29:23,020 As if you were in front of 10,000 people. 1500 01:29:23,125 --> 01:29:24,409 -Shut up! -No... 1501 01:29:24,489 --> 01:29:26,965 No way! As if you were in front of 10,000 people. 1502 01:29:27,299 --> 01:29:29,857 They were grumpy too because, 1503 01:29:30,144 --> 01:29:34,264 "We no longer go here or there," or "We don't do what we used to," 1504 01:29:34,569 --> 01:29:39,447 or "Before you'd open the fridge, there'd be this and that, not anymore." 1505 01:29:39,558 --> 01:29:42,718 And they started to see, and people started saying, 1506 01:29:42,899 --> 01:29:45,701 that their label, Belter, wasn't doing too well, 1507 01:29:46,064 --> 01:29:47,717 I think it folded shortly after. 1508 01:29:47,817 --> 01:29:49,167 DISCOS BELTER SUSPENDS PAYMENTS 1509 01:29:49,289 --> 01:29:50,593 Better, when it folded... 1510 01:29:50,714 --> 01:29:54,034 I'll always say that it was a fraudulent bankruptcy, 1511 01:29:54,259 --> 01:29:57,979 although they made it look like a suspension of payment. 1512 01:29:58,309 --> 01:30:02,748 It was a bankruptcy that should have seen half of the management go to prison. 1513 01:30:03,019 --> 01:30:07,419 I think it's hard to justify: A company with a twenty-odd-year history, 1514 01:30:07,649 --> 01:30:10,375 that four years before closing makes its highest earnings, 1515 01:30:10,504 --> 01:30:13,800 and four years later, it closes because there's no money. 1516 01:30:14,179 --> 01:30:15,875 Where did all that money go? 1517 01:30:20,219 --> 01:30:22,419 I'll buy you dinner 1518 01:30:24,369 --> 01:30:28,002 I want us to talk I'll buy you dinner 1519 01:30:28,449 --> 01:30:31,329 But that coincided, after the second one, 1520 01:30:32,194 --> 01:30:34,434 with Belter closing, they were going bust... 1521 01:30:34,934 --> 01:30:38,974 due to their wise... scheming. 1522 01:30:42,777 --> 01:30:48,360 And this on top of the fact that I turned 18 and had to line up. 1523 01:30:48,885 --> 01:30:52,305 I had to do military service like every other kid, a year, 1524 01:30:52,688 --> 01:30:53,780 in Zaragoza. 1525 01:30:54,404 --> 01:30:58,228 That's what cut short what could have been a music career as a solo artist. 1526 01:30:58,966 --> 01:31:02,944 The first record went well, the second held its own, 1527 01:31:03,103 --> 01:31:06,619 and the third... was a complete flop, definitely. 1528 01:31:10,299 --> 01:31:14,432 So the time comes that I have to decide whether to study or sing. 1529 01:31:14,779 --> 01:31:17,059 So I decided to study. 1530 01:31:17,712 --> 01:31:21,230 And I remember that instead of the head of the label being the one to say, 1531 01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:22,439 "Are you sure?" 1532 01:31:22,644 --> 01:31:24,660 it was one of the parents who said, "Are you sure?" 1533 01:31:25,829 --> 01:31:28,307 So, understand? They... 1534 01:31:28,584 --> 01:31:31,380 This goes to show who was on the other end of the table. 1535 01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:33,455 Sometimes we weren't... 1536 01:31:34,114 --> 01:31:36,594 Sometimes it was us who were at the other end of the table. 1537 01:31:36,974 --> 01:31:38,814 But it could have continued. 1538 01:31:39,174 --> 01:31:40,334 I think it could have. 1539 01:31:40,699 --> 01:31:44,819 With intent, with support and with... We could have happily continued. 1540 01:31:45,314 --> 01:31:48,772 But when David left, it was too many changes. 1541 01:31:49,339 --> 01:31:51,219 I mean, with Chus we could have carried on, 1542 01:31:51,809 --> 01:31:53,017 but when David left... 1543 01:31:54,134 --> 01:31:56,637 Michel... I don't think Michel was a good match. 1544 01:31:57,614 --> 01:32:00,094 Michel didn't match at all. 1545 01:32:01,827 --> 01:32:03,929 -Why? -Because he was like... 1546 01:32:04,009 --> 01:32:05,777 Big Bird on Sesame Street. 1547 01:32:05,884 --> 01:32:08,324 He was a meter taller than the rest of us. 1548 01:32:08,819 --> 01:32:11,619 But finally at fifteen I got tired of it, 1549 01:32:11,999 --> 01:32:14,317 I wanted to be someone anonymous, 1550 01:32:14,579 --> 01:32:18,619 I wanted to get back to normal, and that lifestyle, for me... 1551 01:32:18,844 --> 01:32:20,567 I didn't like it anymore. 1552 01:32:21,764 --> 01:32:25,732 The record label closed. I think we were in... maybe in Mexico, 1553 01:32:27,279 --> 01:32:31,119 and when we got back, the label had folded and we... That was it. 1554 01:32:31,319 --> 01:32:32,477 We got back, 1555 01:32:33,284 --> 01:32:34,284 and... 1556 01:32:36,249 --> 01:32:37,569 we all went home. 1557 01:32:38,582 --> 01:32:39,582 It ended there. 1558 01:32:42,414 --> 01:32:46,574 I knew that Yolanda, having the performer father that she had, 1559 01:32:46,854 --> 01:32:49,734 would carry on as a performer, 1560 01:32:49,949 --> 01:32:53,630 but the rest, I think they knew that wouldn't last long 1561 01:32:53,730 --> 01:32:55,529 and then they'd get on with their lives. 1562 01:32:58,586 --> 01:33:01,163 I'd done, during Parchís' final phase, 1563 01:33:01,268 --> 01:33:03,702 some auditions for a TV series called Platos Rotos, 1564 01:33:03,824 --> 01:33:06,488 written by Joaquín Oristrell, my cousin, 1565 01:33:07,014 --> 01:33:09,814 and I'd been given the role of Mariel. 1566 01:33:10,129 --> 01:33:13,645 Mariel, stuck between Mom and Dad, that is, between a rock and a hard place. 1567 01:33:13,769 --> 01:33:17,049 I'll never get married, putting up with the same guy forever is a bore, 1568 01:33:17,309 --> 01:33:19,309 like having a TV with only one channel. 1569 01:33:19,914 --> 01:33:21,765 I think it was also like... 1570 01:33:22,789 --> 01:33:26,589 a way of escaping all the surrounding conflict. 1571 01:33:27,014 --> 01:33:30,635 My parents had split up, it was the end of Parchís... 1572 01:33:32,209 --> 01:33:34,169 And I think that, at that time, 1573 01:33:34,314 --> 01:33:37,154 I didn't see it, but I didn't really fit in. 1574 01:33:37,489 --> 01:33:40,411 Not in Spain, nor in my family, nor... 1575 01:33:41,354 --> 01:33:42,554 Not anywhere. 1576 01:33:44,074 --> 01:33:45,874 We were very distant for a few years. 1577 01:33:46,609 --> 01:33:49,812 I was very distant with Gemma, with Yolanda, I didn't speak to Tino. 1578 01:33:50,569 --> 01:33:54,489 But Frank was always there. Frank's a brother to me. 1579 01:33:57,889 --> 01:34:00,809 On a personal note, 1580 01:34:01,449 --> 01:34:06,089 I've had my adventures with a bad lifestyle, 1581 01:34:06,249 --> 01:34:10,684 I've had difficulties moving forward, 1582 01:34:10,794 --> 01:34:12,835 because you come out of there really scarred. 1583 01:34:13,554 --> 01:34:14,994 Even though Parchís had ended, 1584 01:34:15,229 --> 01:34:19,349 at seventeen, wherever I went, or at sixteen, 1585 01:34:20,569 --> 01:34:23,649 you were like a sore thumb, especially me. 1586 01:34:25,624 --> 01:34:28,064 And deep down, when you stop being someone, 1587 01:34:28,289 --> 01:34:29,609 more so at that age, 1588 01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:31,759 I was still the girl from Parchís. 1589 01:34:31,929 --> 01:34:34,212 In my neighborhood, I was always "the one from Parchís." 1590 01:34:34,469 --> 01:34:36,622 All the neighbors, the people at school... 1591 01:34:38,727 --> 01:34:41,199 But deep down you're left with a feeling that you think... 1592 01:34:41,627 --> 01:34:47,032 it's over. After about a year, there was something missing in your life. 1593 01:34:47,339 --> 01:34:50,019 All that causes a small problem. 1594 01:34:51,734 --> 01:34:54,374 And anyone who denies it can tell me about it. 1595 01:34:54,729 --> 01:35:00,852 It causes a small problem, a little lack of confidence, of self-esteem. 1596 01:35:02,604 --> 01:35:06,244 So I arrived here in Mexico and there was no work, 1597 01:35:06,524 --> 01:35:08,627 the first months there was nothing. 1598 01:35:09,519 --> 01:35:11,639 Being away from home without the band, 1599 01:35:12,004 --> 01:35:15,324 living in a country that had been so important to the band... 1600 01:35:16,579 --> 01:35:18,166 It's not easy to come to the realization 1601 01:35:18,291 --> 01:35:21,596 that you're going through a phase of depression. That you're sad. 1602 01:35:22,044 --> 01:35:23,244 We can all experience that, 1603 01:35:23,399 --> 01:35:27,028 because you go through a grieving process, because this and that happened, 1604 01:35:27,178 --> 01:35:28,564 and because it's very hard 1605 01:35:28,973 --> 01:35:33,413 to survive having been part of a band like this with integrity. 1606 01:35:33,569 --> 01:35:34,831 Because it was everything. 1607 01:35:37,894 --> 01:35:41,077 Well, when you weigh it out you think, "What?" 1608 01:35:42,532 --> 01:35:45,582 Classified ads, job offers... That's all you got left. 1609 01:35:49,329 --> 01:35:51,729 It was the rupture of the band at a personal level, 1610 01:35:51,809 --> 01:35:56,769 and what's more, I think that sort of anger lasted for years. 1611 01:35:58,729 --> 01:36:03,809 We distanced ourselves from Tino, and we didn't hear from him for years, 1612 01:36:04,729 --> 01:36:06,255 until... 1613 01:36:06,659 --> 01:36:11,139 Well, because of the accident, we rekindled our relationship with him. 1614 01:36:15,289 --> 01:36:18,049 Everything I'm going to tell you, it's not that I remember it, 1615 01:36:18,129 --> 01:36:23,289 because, in addition to the amputation, I had pretty bad cranioencephalic trauma. 1616 01:36:23,994 --> 01:36:27,384 It's from the statement of the guy I crashed into, the van I crashed into. 1617 01:36:27,779 --> 01:36:31,499 So the guy gave a statement to the Guardia Civil saying 1618 01:36:32,609 --> 01:36:34,849 he was traveling on the opposite side of the road, 1619 01:36:34,929 --> 01:36:37,049 behind a guy who was messing around. 1620 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,679 So the guy in front made his maneuver, 1621 01:36:41,089 --> 01:36:42,660 I was coming, he can already see me, 1622 01:36:43,309 --> 01:36:45,259 and instead of stopping, the guy accelerates, 1623 01:36:45,814 --> 01:36:49,246 exactly at the point where I was passing, so, to avoid him, 1624 01:36:49,554 --> 01:36:52,915 I encroach the other lane, he reaches me and we collide head on. 1625 01:36:54,724 --> 01:36:58,405 From the head-on collision, the hood shot into the car 1626 01:36:58,729 --> 01:37:02,849 and I instinctively put my arm like this, 1627 01:37:03,089 --> 01:37:06,148 and it acted as a guillotine along with the roof and that's what it took off. 1628 01:37:06,334 --> 01:37:08,494 But it could have taken my neck. 1629 01:37:08,854 --> 01:37:13,214 When Tino had the accident, I was still angry at him, 1630 01:37:13,449 --> 01:37:16,049 at the time I didn't care. 1631 01:37:16,929 --> 01:37:20,209 And that's not right, because he's a person you care about and love, 1632 01:37:20,289 --> 01:37:21,947 so that was wrong of me. 1633 01:37:22,529 --> 01:37:25,007 And it changed my life, of course, a lot. 1634 01:37:25,399 --> 01:37:29,182 Mainly because when you're confronted with something like this, 1635 01:37:29,779 --> 01:37:33,779 you realize which things really matter. 1636 01:37:34,674 --> 01:37:39,074 And the things with the sole purpose of filling 1637 01:37:39,569 --> 01:37:45,129 ephemeral voids or ephemeral satisfaction, 1638 01:37:45,209 --> 01:37:46,455 are absurdities. 1639 01:37:46,859 --> 01:37:48,699 And really... 1640 01:37:49,169 --> 01:37:53,089 Tino is a person who, at this time, I think is fantastic. 1641 01:37:53,899 --> 01:37:55,859 I admire people who don't play the victim 1642 01:37:55,964 --> 01:37:59,204 despite having lived through things that would allow them to do so. 1643 01:37:59,619 --> 01:38:03,419 I really admire... I admire him a lot. 1644 01:38:03,649 --> 01:38:07,049 The way he's... the man he has become. 1645 01:38:09,619 --> 01:38:12,396 With us, we've gotten to the point that we're brothers. 1646 01:38:12,619 --> 01:38:14,299 We can say almost anything to each other. 1647 01:38:14,529 --> 01:38:16,169 As long as no one else says it. 1648 01:38:16,529 --> 01:38:19,529 I can say things like, "You're a douche," and he can say it back. 1649 01:38:19,609 --> 01:38:21,511 And within half an hour we're over it. 1650 01:38:23,169 --> 01:38:27,098 There are some chains that bind and that will never again be broken. 1651 01:38:27,394 --> 01:38:32,114 And it doesn't matter if you insult or betray each other or whatever, 1652 01:38:32,624 --> 01:38:36,717 we've shared some experiences that turned us into family. 1653 01:38:37,249 --> 01:38:38,492 For the good and the bad. 1654 01:38:39,209 --> 01:38:43,671 I can tell you that after that, I've managed to be a writer or director, 1655 01:38:44,009 --> 01:38:47,169 vice-president of the Academy, president of the Board of Directors... 1656 01:38:47,289 --> 01:38:49,849 I've had several lives, I have two adopted children, 1657 01:38:49,929 --> 01:38:52,329 I've had a number of complicated adventures, 1658 01:38:52,459 --> 01:38:53,837 but probably the most exciting thing 1659 01:38:54,034 --> 01:38:57,954 that's happened to me in life was with Parchís. 1660 01:39:00,884 --> 01:39:05,169 It's fair to say that you get to a point that you think, "I'm 50 years old, 1661 01:39:05,354 --> 01:39:08,354 I'm so happy I did Parchís, but it's part of my past." 1662 01:39:10,609 --> 01:39:13,969 There were times I would have preferred not to have been a part of Parchís, 1663 01:39:14,969 --> 01:39:17,449 not to have been so well known or so famous. 1664 01:39:17,824 --> 01:39:23,104 But whatever I do, that degree of success or popularity 1665 01:39:24,129 --> 01:39:26,687 is almost impossible to attain again. 1666 01:39:28,209 --> 01:39:31,849 Over the years, the situation has changed 1667 01:39:32,026 --> 01:39:34,124 and it's... I think I feel grateful in this life 1668 01:39:34,397 --> 01:39:38,249 for having been in Parchís, for having been a part of... 1669 01:39:38,519 --> 01:39:39,919 and I know it sounds corny, 1670 01:39:40,289 --> 01:39:44,093 but for having been a part of the childhood of millions of people. 1671 01:39:47,689 --> 01:39:53,379 Who can say they've experienced 10,000 people singing along with them? 1672 01:39:54,046 --> 01:39:55,249 Who can say that? 1673 01:39:55,369 --> 01:39:58,849 Who can say that people used to wear you on a t-shirt or wear you...? 1674 01:39:59,079 --> 01:40:02,449 We're fortunate, because at the end of the day, 1675 01:40:02,529 --> 01:40:04,470 I think that life is a collection of experiences. 1676 01:40:04,589 --> 01:40:07,789 And ours have been fantastic. 1677 01:40:10,814 --> 01:40:13,974 Because they have to be aware of what they did 1678 01:40:14,874 --> 01:40:16,185 and of what that was. 1679 01:40:16,949 --> 01:40:21,749 Their memories will be full of blanks, mine too, 1680 01:40:22,169 --> 01:40:24,277 but I'd never tell all this, 1681 01:40:24,849 --> 01:40:29,289 if I didn't believe it had ended well. 1682 01:40:30,179 --> 01:40:31,859 For everyone. 1683 01:40:32,089 --> 01:40:36,889 There haven't been any tragedies, no hard feelings, 1684 01:40:36,969 --> 01:40:39,609 there's been no devastation. 1685 01:40:39,689 --> 01:40:43,769 There's been hardship, overcoming all sorts of things, 1686 01:40:44,249 --> 01:40:48,009 because at the end of the day, what it comes to show 1687 01:40:48,609 --> 01:40:50,529 is that these people have been... 1688 01:40:51,849 --> 01:40:54,249 They've been champions in their field, 1689 01:40:55,359 --> 01:40:58,999 not only in doing what they did, not only in being Parchís, 1690 01:40:59,609 --> 01:41:01,529 but in surviving Parchís. 1691 01:41:06,890 --> 01:41:08,382 -Can I start? -Please. 1692 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:13,838 For me the most important thing was traveling. 1693 01:41:14,213 --> 01:41:17,221 For a twelve-year-old kid to get on a plane, 1694 01:41:17,596 --> 01:41:21,826 and that what you see becomes your textbook... 1695 01:41:22,049 --> 01:41:24,255 Who travels for five years? 1696 01:41:24,327 --> 01:41:25,355 -Or six? -I don't know. 1697 01:41:25,455 --> 01:41:27,549 -Non-stop? -Non-stop. 1698 01:41:28,846 --> 01:41:31,681 When you think in all the full houses, you'd perform... 1699 01:41:32,303 --> 01:41:34,818 and you'd do it without any kind of embarrassment. 1700 01:41:34,940 --> 01:41:38,544 -Of awareness. -Today I wouldn't be able 1701 01:41:38,669 --> 01:41:40,858 -to be out there two minutes. -To be out there. 1702 01:41:42,430 --> 01:41:47,458 I attended a school of life very different to the one 1703 01:41:47,586 --> 01:41:50,045 that many others did. And I came to very deep... 1704 01:41:51,659 --> 01:41:52,985 conclusions. 1705 01:41:54,135 --> 01:41:58,412 When I left the band, around 16 or 17, and went to clubs with Frank, 1706 01:41:58,534 --> 01:42:01,333 they would recognize you, 1707 01:42:01,605 --> 01:42:05,389 all the girls would look at you. Flirting was very easy. 1708 01:42:05,886 --> 01:42:09,840 But they would flirt with the celebrity, not with the real person. 1709 01:42:09,987 --> 01:42:12,370 -Sure. -When they'd notice the real person, 1710 01:42:12,742 --> 01:42:16,114 they'd get disappointed, that was not their impression of you. 1711 01:42:16,386 --> 01:42:19,190 For some time, 1712 01:42:19,315 --> 01:42:23,001 I had this insecurity, like, "I don't think I can open myself 1713 01:42:23,598 --> 01:42:27,622 emotionally in certain ways, because they don't see me 1714 01:42:28,125 --> 01:42:31,825 -as I am, but as they think I am." -Right, yes. 1715 01:42:33,072 --> 01:42:36,828 There is this weird stigma, where if you were... 1716 01:42:37,525 --> 01:42:40,085 not a child prodigy, but if you were famous as a kid, 1717 01:42:40,607 --> 01:42:42,652 you lack talent as an adult. 1718 01:42:42,827 --> 01:42:45,455 I accept that it took me years 1719 01:42:46,302 --> 01:42:50,547 to get a call because of my work, not because I was part of Parchís. 1720 01:42:52,972 --> 01:42:56,187 -I love to see their faces... -Totally. 1721 01:42:56,387 --> 01:42:59,757 ...when they realize. That should be filmed. 1722 01:43:00,704 --> 01:43:03,478 When I moved to New York, eight years ago, 1723 01:43:04,584 --> 01:43:07,255 I thought, "No one will recognize me." 1724 01:43:07,405 --> 01:43:12,289 Obviously. So, I start working, and suddenly, a girl, 1725 01:43:13,536 --> 01:43:16,686 she is looking at her computer, and there is a picture of Parchís. 1726 01:43:17,308 --> 01:43:21,247 She recognized me, and everyone in this New York company 1727 01:43:21,425 --> 01:43:23,099 going mad like... 1728 01:43:23,296 --> 01:43:24,583 How did they say it? 1729 01:43:24,708 --> 01:43:25,857 "You are a celebrity." 1730 01:43:25,986 --> 01:43:27,771 "You're so famous. 1731 01:43:27,974 --> 01:43:30,046 -How can you be so famous?" -"A little celebrity." 1732 01:43:30,321 --> 01:43:34,033 And suddenly, everyone: "You were at the Madison Square Garden!" 139423

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