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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,356 --> 00:00:25,153 (male narrator) In the criminal justice system... 2 00:00:25,225 --> 00:00:29,093 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: 3 00:00:29,162 --> 00:00:31,062 the police who investigate crime... 4 00:00:31,131 --> 00:00:33,861 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:33,933 --> 00:00:35,423 These are their stories. 6 00:00:37,337 --> 00:00:39,032 [people chattering] 7 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,501 (Wallengren) Nurse, it's been an hour. 8 00:00:42,575 --> 00:00:44,941 Maybe I should have called a hearse, skip the middleman. 9 00:00:45,011 --> 00:00:47,036 Nobody ever died of whiplash, Mr. Wallengren. 10 00:00:47,113 --> 00:00:49,104 Look, I got Blue Cross, I got Blue Shield. 11 00:00:49,182 --> 00:00:51,377 What do I gotta do to get my wife in to see a doctor? 12 00:00:51,451 --> 00:00:52,440 We're doing our best. 13 00:00:52,519 --> 00:00:54,953 You want to complain, fax it to Hillary. 14 00:00:55,155 --> 00:00:56,486 [phone ringing] 15 00:00:56,823 --> 00:00:58,654 Get you another ice pack. 16 00:01:01,294 --> 00:01:04,730 It's gonna take another 15 minutes, I don't know. 17 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:08,498 What are you doing? I'll get it. 18 00:01:09,202 --> 00:01:10,430 Hon.... 19 00:01:12,839 --> 00:01:14,033 Nurse! 20 00:01:16,409 --> 00:01:17,842 Name's Debra EIkins. 21 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:20,675 Twenty-two. Her driver's license is from upstate. Poughkeepsie. 22 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:22,715 She gonna make it to 23? 23 00:01:22,782 --> 00:01:24,943 She must have lost two and a half pints of blood. 24 00:01:25,018 --> 00:01:26,144 BP was way down. 25 00:01:26,219 --> 00:01:28,084 She was lucky that we found her when we did. 26 00:01:28,154 --> 00:01:30,987 Wait. What do mean, you found her? It was a zoo in here. 27 00:01:31,057 --> 00:01:33,082 One ofthe patients noticed her. She was alone. 28 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:34,626 Unconscious and hemorrhaging. 29 00:01:34,694 --> 00:01:37,026 What do you think, her boyfriend got fancy with a knife? 30 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:38,997 I first assumed it was with a coat hanger. 31 00:01:39,065 --> 00:01:41,397 A botched third trimester abortion. 32 00:01:41,668 --> 00:01:44,034 But her hemorrhage is a postpartum complication. 33 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:45,332 So she gave birth. 34 00:01:45,405 --> 00:01:48,841 Not easily, I'm afraid. Her uterus is grossly over-distended. 35 00:01:48,908 --> 00:01:52,400 We have her on IV. Oxytocin. She'll be all right. 36 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:55,912 Okay, so why are we here? Where's the baby? 37 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:55,873 The doctor said it wasn't supposed to happen... 38 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:58,174 for another two weeks. 39 00:03:00,446 --> 00:03:03,438 My mom gave me some money... 40 00:03:04,651 --> 00:03:09,281 and I was in town for the day buying baby clothes. 41 00:03:10,423 --> 00:03:12,414 You don't remember giving birth? 42 00:03:15,728 --> 00:03:18,959 Well, I went and took a walk after dinner... 43 00:03:19,899 --> 00:03:22,766 and I got these sharp pains. 44 00:03:25,071 --> 00:03:26,868 I didn't know what to do. 45 00:03:28,074 --> 00:03:29,371 This man... 46 00:03:30,510 --> 00:03:32,671 he put me in a taxi. 47 00:03:35,548 --> 00:03:37,539 I must've passed out. 48 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:41,081 Did your husband come down here with you? 49 00:03:42,589 --> 00:03:44,216 I'm not married. 50 00:03:44,424 --> 00:03:46,415 Well, the baby's father. 51 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:50,260 I was raped at work. 52 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,830 It's still my baby. 53 00:03:56,703 --> 00:03:59,604 Do you think you'd remember that cab driver? 54 00:04:03,843 --> 00:04:06,676 What kind of person steals someone's baby? 55 00:04:09,282 --> 00:04:11,079 I've been through two births. 56 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:14,119 I remember every push and squeeze. I'll tell you what... 57 00:04:14,187 --> 00:04:16,417 passing out is the impossible dream. 58 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:18,855 This girl's story does not jive. 59 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:22,224 What are you saying, she took an hour bus ride to dump the kid in an alley? 60 00:04:22,295 --> 00:04:26,994 Read the stats. Last year, 11,000 abandoned babies in New York alone. 61 00:04:27,066 --> 00:04:30,900 Most of whose mothers spend their days on the short end of a crack pipe. 62 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:33,097 This girl's tox report is negative. 63 00:04:33,172 --> 00:04:35,072 You said she was raped, right? 64 00:04:35,141 --> 00:04:38,907 Maybe she's not as happy about maternity as she would have us believe. 65 00:04:38,978 --> 00:04:40,639 Well, there are other alternatives. 66 00:04:40,713 --> 00:04:45,082 Yes, well, maybe not everyone's as enlightened as you are, Mike. 67 00:04:45,151 --> 00:04:47,676 It's our lucky day. Struck gold, fifth try. 68 00:04:47,754 --> 00:04:50,382 Last night, a hack from Madison Taxi turns in a cab. 69 00:04:50,456 --> 00:04:52,686 Back seat covered with blood. 70 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:58,829 (Greenberg) They're all animals. 71 00:04:58,898 --> 00:05:01,799 They think for a $5 fare they rent a toilet. 72 00:05:01,868 --> 00:05:04,564 They don't care what kind of garbage they leave in the back seat. 73 00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:07,697 Yeah, well, is this particular garbage new? 74 00:05:08,174 --> 00:05:11,666 Hey, just because I live in a sty doesn't mean I'm a pig. 75 00:05:11,744 --> 00:05:14,611 We clean up after every shift. It's good for the Midtown trade. 76 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:16,979 Okay, so who was driving this car last night? 77 00:05:17,450 --> 00:05:19,884 The Russki. Alex Walinsky. 78 00:05:19,952 --> 00:05:21,613 We're gonna need an address. 79 00:05:21,688 --> 00:05:24,680 Yeah, let me see. Here you go. 80 00:05:24,757 --> 00:05:26,657 102 East 16th. 81 00:05:26,726 --> 00:05:29,820 He should be there. He called in sick. 82 00:05:30,963 --> 00:05:34,797 If he doesn't recover by tomorrow, you tell him, don't bother. 83 00:05:43,876 --> 00:05:46,310 Alex Walinsky? Yes. 84 00:05:46,579 --> 00:05:48,012 [baby crying] 85 00:05:48,548 --> 00:05:51,016 What's this? I did nothing wrong. Yeah? 86 00:05:51,084 --> 00:05:54,383 Well, there's a new mother with tubes up her nose who might disagree. 87 00:05:56,756 --> 00:05:59,190 If he's a day old, call the Guinness Book ofRecords. 88 00:05:59,258 --> 00:06:02,091 What are you doing with my son? Here, take him. 89 00:06:02,161 --> 00:06:05,221 What did you do with the kid you found in your cab? 90 00:06:05,298 --> 00:06:07,232 Kid? (Logan) We saw your car. 91 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,427 Your last fare didn't have a nosebleed. 92 00:06:10,603 --> 00:06:12,571 That girl, she was sick. 93 00:06:12,772 --> 00:06:15,070 She told me to take her to the hospital. 94 00:06:15,141 --> 00:06:17,701 Do you remember where you picked the girl up? 95 00:06:19,245 --> 00:06:21,338 On Lexington, in the 30s. 96 00:06:21,414 --> 00:06:23,143 In front of St. Paul Hotel. 97 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:25,650 I swear to you, there was no baby. 98 00:06:28,087 --> 00:06:32,023 If Dr. Zhivago's telling the truth maybe Van Buren was right. 99 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,320 I don't know, you gotta be awful desperate to dump a kid. 100 00:06:36,462 --> 00:06:40,057 This from a guy who spent the last 20 years trying to avoid fatherhood? 101 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:41,760 Hey, back off, all right? 102 00:06:41,834 --> 00:06:44,359 I didn't want the abortion, she did. 103 00:06:46,072 --> 00:06:48,734 Okay, a girl comes to town for one day's shopping. 104 00:06:48,808 --> 00:06:51,072 Does she check into a hotel? 105 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:55,410 Let's hope the kid's watching Sesame Street and ordering room service. 106 00:06:55,748 --> 00:06:56,874 [elevator bell dinging] 107 00:06:56,949 --> 00:06:58,348 Sure, I got her a cab. 108 00:06:58,418 --> 00:07:01,546 She was white as a sheet. Looked like she was about to pass out. 109 00:07:01,621 --> 00:07:03,282 She okay? She'll live. 110 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:05,517 She have a baby with her when you put her in that cab? 111 00:07:05,591 --> 00:07:06,580 No. 112 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,887 What the hell happened here? 113 00:07:10,696 --> 00:07:13,221 My guess, the miracle of childbirth. 114 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:23,102 There's more blood in the bathroom. Look at this. 115 00:07:23,176 --> 00:07:25,406 Briscoe. Yeah, I'm gonna need a CSU unit. 116 00:07:25,478 --> 00:07:26,911 St. Paul Hotel, 38th and Lexington. 117 00:07:26,979 --> 00:07:28,276 You sure you didn't see a baby? 118 00:07:28,347 --> 00:07:29,746 No. Just the two of them. 119 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:32,410 The two ofthem? The boyfriend. He checked in with her. 120 00:07:33,619 --> 00:07:35,246 Shaw, Steven J. 121 00:07:35,421 --> 00:07:37,389 Said he wasn't staying but... 122 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:40,824 a couple of kids paying cash, I take everybody's name just to make sure. 123 00:07:40,893 --> 00:07:42,952 You keep phone records? Yeah. 124 00:07:44,664 --> 00:07:47,394 I don't know what you're talking about. 125 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,761 Come on. You told us you were in town for the day. 126 00:07:50,837 --> 00:07:53,101 You've been in a hotel since last Tuesday. 127 00:07:53,172 --> 00:07:55,003 You told us you were in town alone... 128 00:07:55,074 --> 00:07:57,201 and then we find out your boyfriend's with you. 129 00:07:57,276 --> 00:08:00,040 What difference does any of this make? 130 00:08:00,446 --> 00:08:02,437 My baby's still missing. 131 00:08:02,615 --> 00:08:04,708 It's all these lies, Debra. 132 00:08:04,784 --> 00:08:07,617 It makes us think that maybe you know where your baby is. 133 00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:10,986 Ifl knew, why wouldn't I tell you? 134 00:08:12,225 --> 00:08:14,216 Where's your friend Shaw? 135 00:08:15,895 --> 00:08:19,296 He stayed with me one night, then he went back home. 136 00:08:19,532 --> 00:08:22,626 Yeah, well, the problem is there's no Steven Shaw listed... 137 00:08:22,702 --> 00:08:24,602 in the Poughkeepsie phone book. 138 00:08:24,670 --> 00:08:26,297 [knocking on door] 139 00:08:29,842 --> 00:08:31,707 They ran the hotel's phone records. 140 00:08:31,777 --> 00:08:35,770 This girl made 14 calls to her voicemail in Poughkeepsie. 141 00:08:35,848 --> 00:08:39,443 She's got a lot of friends? She made one local call. 142 00:08:40,586 --> 00:08:42,884 William Wendyll, attorney at law. 143 00:08:45,725 --> 00:08:49,684 Debbie EIkins. One ofthe young, the poor, the pregnant. 144 00:08:49,762 --> 00:08:51,821 Well, not anymore. She gave birth two days ago. 145 00:08:51,898 --> 00:08:52,990 Good for her. 146 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:54,794 But it's really not my problem anymore. 147 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:55,959 Was it ever? 148 00:08:56,035 --> 00:08:58,595 When my clients were in the running, it certainly was. 149 00:08:58,671 --> 00:09:01,731 Well, wait, let's just back up a couple of steps. 150 00:09:01,807 --> 00:09:05,607 My business is adoptions. I help my clients find these girls. 151 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:10,179 I screen out the kooks, and in one out of every eight cases... 152 00:09:10,249 --> 00:09:13,377 I help them through the system. I thought Debbie was one ofthe good ones. 153 00:09:13,452 --> 00:09:14,817 Goes to show. 154 00:09:14,887 --> 00:09:17,685 She called me a couple of days ago, and she changed her mind. 155 00:09:17,757 --> 00:09:20,089 She said that she wanted to keep her baby. 156 00:09:20,159 --> 00:09:22,286 (Logan) Looks like she didn't do a very good job. 157 00:09:22,361 --> 00:09:24,261 Let me ask you something. 158 00:09:24,363 --> 00:09:27,457 You get paid only on delivery, right? 159 00:09:27,533 --> 00:09:30,195 Sure. Why? Just thinking. 160 00:09:30,269 --> 00:09:31,634 Debbie's kid's missing. 161 00:09:31,704 --> 00:09:35,105 Maybe one of your clients did an end run around your legal fee. 162 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:36,232 [chuckles] 163 00:09:36,309 --> 00:09:38,971 Are you kidding? Those people are loaded. 164 00:09:39,045 --> 00:09:40,137 My fee is meaningless. 165 00:09:40,212 --> 00:09:43,579 Did EIkins ever mention a Steven Shaw? 166 00:09:43,649 --> 00:09:47,278 Look, Detectives, these girls are very skittish. 167 00:09:47,753 --> 00:09:49,482 Theyjust don't open up to lawyers. 168 00:09:49,555 --> 00:09:53,685 Yeah, sure, but they spend a lot oftime with their clients, right? 169 00:09:53,993 --> 00:09:55,927 That is attorney-client privilege. 170 00:09:57,430 --> 00:10:01,389 We're investigating kidnapping and child endangerment, Counselor. 171 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:03,492 If you hinder prosecution, we'll come back... 172 00:10:03,569 --> 00:10:06,663 with material witness warrants for your clients. 173 00:10:10,876 --> 00:10:12,537 Stephanie. (Stephanie) Yes, sir? 174 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:15,206 Get the Savitts on the phone, please. 175 00:10:19,385 --> 00:10:22,752 First, it was our careers, then, it was financial security... 176 00:10:22,822 --> 00:10:26,781 then, emotional security, and by the time we were ready.... 177 00:10:26,859 --> 00:10:31,057 We tried fertility drugs, in vitro, everything. 178 00:10:31,664 --> 00:10:34,428 We thought Debbie was finally the one. We sure did. 179 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:36,525 Let me show you something. 180 00:10:42,008 --> 00:10:44,442 We did exactly what Bill Wendyll told us. 181 00:10:44,510 --> 00:10:48,537 We put ads in college newspapers, in regional papers in the southeast. 182 00:10:48,614 --> 00:10:51,105 (Gwen) "Our hearts are open to receive your baby. 183 00:10:51,183 --> 00:10:53,549 "We have so much love to give. Please call." 184 00:10:53,619 --> 00:10:57,385 We had an 800 number installed. We received calls every day. 185 00:10:57,456 --> 00:10:59,981 Debra was the seventh girl we interviewed. 186 00:11:00,059 --> 00:11:02,357 She got our number from the school paper at Hudson. 187 00:11:02,428 --> 00:11:05,955 She said she was a rape victim, someone that she worked with. 188 00:11:06,032 --> 00:11:08,023 We felt so sorry for her. 189 00:11:08,234 --> 00:11:11,829 I don't mean to be crass, but we spent a lot of effort and money on this girl. 190 00:11:11,904 --> 00:11:15,237 You put her on salary? She was carrying our child. 191 00:11:15,775 --> 00:11:18,938 We wanted to make sure she had good nutrition, proper medical care. 192 00:11:19,011 --> 00:11:20,239 We felt she deserved it. 193 00:11:20,312 --> 00:11:23,179 Did she ever talk about somebody named Shaw? 194 00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:26,013 She had us make a check out once to a Steven Shaw. 195 00:11:26,085 --> 00:11:27,552 She told us he was her landlord. 196 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:30,521 You still have that cancelled check? Yeah. 197 00:11:35,861 --> 00:11:39,353 When you find the baby, could you give us a call? 198 00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:41,728 Ma'am, please. 199 00:11:41,801 --> 00:11:44,634 It would mean so much to me. To both of us. 200 00:11:47,306 --> 00:11:50,036 Yeah, I know people want kids. But advertising? 201 00:11:50,109 --> 00:11:51,974 800 numbers? It's a little nuts. 202 00:11:52,044 --> 00:11:54,069 Hey, there's two kinds of people in this world. 203 00:11:54,146 --> 00:11:57,707 Those with kids, and those without. That's right, Pops. 204 00:11:58,317 --> 00:11:59,306 Yo. 205 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,584 Okay, go. 206 00:12:03,756 --> 00:12:05,781 Right. Got it. 207 00:12:06,425 --> 00:12:08,893 What? You're kidding me. 208 00:12:10,896 --> 00:12:12,864 Okay. Thanks. 209 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,368 I got Shaw's address in Poughkeepsie. 210 00:12:16,435 --> 00:12:17,800 Oh, good, a road trip to Hudson. 211 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:19,633 Haven't done one of those since college. 212 00:12:19,705 --> 00:12:21,263 Don't pack your rubbers yet. 213 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:25,208 The bank said they wired $10,000 out of his account to Western Union... 214 00:12:25,277 --> 00:12:26,574 in Midtown this morning. 215 00:12:26,645 --> 00:12:28,704 Well, that'll buy the baby some formula. 216 00:12:29,815 --> 00:12:33,148 (clerk) Here we go. The wire transfer arrived at 1:00. 217 00:12:33,219 --> 00:12:35,483 Mr. Shaw signed for it at 1:40. 218 00:12:35,554 --> 00:12:37,488 Do you remember if he had a baby with him? 219 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:38,682 Sorry, a lot of business today. 220 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:41,454 Come on, what're you doing up there, balancing a checkbook? 221 00:12:41,527 --> 00:12:42,516 That's right. 222 00:12:42,595 --> 00:12:44,620 And when we're finished, you'll know. 223 00:12:46,332 --> 00:12:49,529 By any chance, did Mr. Shaw leave a local address? 224 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:54,300 It says here, "When wire is received, call him at the Lowery Hotel." 225 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,966 (Briscoe) Thank you. 226 00:13:09,321 --> 00:13:11,551 Who are you? (Briscoe) We ask the questions. 227 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:14,184 Are you Steven J. Shaw? Yeah. So what? 228 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,349 [baby crying] 229 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:18,191 Hey, what the hell's going on? Shut up. 230 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,764 [baby babbling] 231 00:13:20,432 --> 00:13:21,421 Okay. 232 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:23,161 (Steven) What do you think you're doing? 233 00:13:23,235 --> 00:13:24,224 Our favorite thing. 234 00:13:24,303 --> 00:13:25,827 Steven Shaw, you're under arrest. 235 00:13:25,905 --> 00:13:28,897 Hi, this is Det. Logan. I'm in Room 512 at the Lowery Hotel. 236 00:13:28,974 --> 00:13:32,535 Have an ambulance respond to a newborn male. 237 00:13:32,945 --> 00:13:35,072 You have the right to an attorney. 238 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:38,078 If you cannot afford one, one will be provided for you. 239 00:13:47,693 --> 00:13:49,923 (Logan) You're not Debra's landlord. 240 00:13:50,296 --> 00:13:52,196 You're not her husband. 241 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,000 You're not even the kid's father. 242 00:13:57,303 --> 00:14:00,500 So what were you doing in a hotel room with the baby? 243 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:01,972 I told you. 244 00:14:02,208 --> 00:14:05,735 I am her boyfriend. You're quite a lady's man, Steven. 245 00:14:06,445 --> 00:14:09,278 You always let your girlfriends bleed halfto death in a cab? 246 00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:11,339 She wanted me to stay with the baby. 247 00:14:11,417 --> 00:14:14,409 There's plenty of room in that taxi for all three of you. 248 00:14:16,088 --> 00:14:19,216 I understand the jam you're in. It's not your kid. 249 00:14:19,291 --> 00:14:22,522 You wanted her to give it up, she didn't want to. You two had a fight. 250 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:24,825 I didn't care that she had been raped. 251 00:14:24,897 --> 00:14:26,524 We both wanted the baby, all right? 252 00:14:26,599 --> 00:14:28,794 Hey, if it was me, and I found out she was pregnant... 253 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,699 man, I would've grabbed my hat and split. 254 00:14:30,769 --> 00:14:32,760 You know, I don't know what you're talking about. 255 00:14:32,838 --> 00:14:34,362 I want to talk to Debbie. 256 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,841 Listen, dumping that kid somewhere was gonna make your life... 257 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:40,504 a hell of a lot easier, wasn't it? You're wrong, man, all right? 258 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:42,479 Just ask Debbie. You'll see. 259 00:14:43,649 --> 00:14:45,708 Jeez, this is bad. 260 00:14:48,754 --> 00:14:50,984 What are you hassling me for? 261 00:14:51,523 --> 00:14:53,150 I didn't do anything wrong. 262 00:14:53,225 --> 00:14:56,092 You know what really pisses me off, Debbie? 263 00:14:56,295 --> 00:15:00,231 Some little bitch wasting three days of my life. 264 00:15:01,767 --> 00:15:03,291 So you gonna arrest me for it? 265 00:15:03,369 --> 00:15:06,361 No. But how about child abandonment? That's pretty serious. 266 00:15:06,438 --> 00:15:08,770 What abandonment? I left him with Steven. 267 00:15:08,841 --> 00:15:11,833 Okay, so we'll add endangerment to the list. 268 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,572 He'd never hurt the baby. 269 00:15:13,646 --> 00:15:15,614 After all the lying you've done... 270 00:15:15,681 --> 00:15:17,672 who do you think the judge is gonna believe? 271 00:15:17,950 --> 00:15:19,781 What do you want from me? 272 00:15:19,852 --> 00:15:22,787 For starters? Why are you jerking us around? 273 00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:26,182 Forget it, Mike. 274 00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:29,750 We'll just throw both ofthem in the can and let the DAs sort it out. 275 00:15:29,929 --> 00:15:32,397 The kid's gonna wind up in foster care anyway. 276 00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:35,331 Here we go again, man, just like the last time. 277 00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,933 Those bastards at Child Welfare. 278 00:15:38,771 --> 00:15:40,671 They said I was unfit. 279 00:15:42,141 --> 00:15:44,268 They took my daughter away. 280 00:15:45,144 --> 00:15:47,704 I wasn't gonna let that happen again. 281 00:15:53,585 --> 00:15:56,110 What do you want me to do? There's no crime here. 282 00:15:56,188 --> 00:15:59,419 She intentionally interfered with a police investigation. 283 00:15:59,491 --> 00:16:00,685 That'd get her six months. 284 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:03,592 And you know ajudge who'd put her in prison with a newborn? 285 00:16:03,662 --> 00:16:06,062 Forget about it, Lennie. (Logan) She's just a kid. 286 00:16:06,131 --> 00:16:09,225 She got screwed by the system once. Who can blame her for lying to us? 287 00:16:09,635 --> 00:16:12,934 Child Welfare was right the first time. She's garbage. 288 00:16:13,005 --> 00:16:15,269 I'll tell you what. We let her go, we might as well... 289 00:16:15,341 --> 00:16:17,434 get a head start and arrest the baby right now. 290 00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:19,272 [phone ringing] 291 00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:21,675 Van Buren. Yes, they're here. 292 00:16:23,115 --> 00:16:25,481 When? Thanks. 293 00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:28,180 The Foundling Hospital just called. 294 00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:31,745 Someone walked out the front door with the EIkins baby. 295 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,022 (Sheridan) First, I took care of the screamers. 296 00:16:40,099 --> 00:16:41,794 Add formula, change the diapers. 297 00:16:41,867 --> 00:16:44,301 Then, I counted the sleepers. One short. 298 00:16:44,370 --> 00:16:47,203 Well, the report said the baby was taken early this morning. 299 00:16:47,272 --> 00:16:49,399 She had authorization papers. 300 00:16:49,475 --> 00:16:51,739 What does that mean, the kidnapper had a hall pass? 301 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:55,371 Authorization for transfer to Victoria General, where the mother is. 302 00:16:55,447 --> 00:16:58,245 It all looked kosher until the baby's blood work-up came in... 303 00:16:58,317 --> 00:16:59,443 about an hour ago. 304 00:16:59,518 --> 00:17:02,681 Kid's allergic to formula, so I called Victoria to tell them. 305 00:17:02,755 --> 00:17:05,223 And the baby never showed. Right. 306 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:09,521 She gave me all the correct forms with all the signatures. 307 00:17:09,595 --> 00:17:11,119 Everything was in order. 308 00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:13,426 So somebody walks in waving the right paperwork... 309 00:17:13,499 --> 00:17:14,830 and you just give them a baby? 310 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,231 But she was a nurse. 311 00:17:16,301 --> 00:17:19,862 I mean, she showed me her state card. Dorothy Hemmerick. 312 00:17:20,172 --> 00:17:23,300 Dorothy Hemmerick? Do you know what she looks like? 313 00:17:24,643 --> 00:17:28,340 She was a white lady, as old as you. 314 00:17:28,847 --> 00:17:33,375 Not so tall. Dirty blonde hair and green eyes. 315 00:17:33,685 --> 00:17:37,314 She came in at 5:30 in the morning. Isn't that a little before office hours? 316 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:39,721 But she knew everything about the little baby. 317 00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:42,226 I mean, she even knew the mother's name. 318 00:17:42,294 --> 00:17:46,458 When she saw his hazel eyes, she said they looked just like the mother's. 319 00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:50,291 I am so sorry. 320 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:54,137 Please tell the mother that I am so sorry. 321 00:17:55,107 --> 00:17:58,599 (Briscoe) Hey, she knew what color eyes you have. 322 00:17:59,011 --> 00:18:00,171 What, you think we're involved? 323 00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:02,110 You got a reason why we shouldn't think it? 324 00:18:02,181 --> 00:18:06,311 She said she was a nurse, and she knew everything about you and the baby. 325 00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:07,579 Nurse? 326 00:18:08,687 --> 00:18:10,552 That crazy bitch. 327 00:18:11,657 --> 00:18:13,454 It had to be Mrs. Baxter. 328 00:18:13,525 --> 00:18:15,550 You people want to give us a hint here? 329 00:18:16,328 --> 00:18:18,228 We interviewed her about adopting the baby. 330 00:18:18,297 --> 00:18:20,322 Wait a minute, what about the Savitts? 331 00:18:20,399 --> 00:18:22,890 I talked to them after the Baxters. 332 00:18:24,169 --> 00:18:26,330 I knew that woman was crazy. 333 00:18:29,908 --> 00:18:31,739 Come on, let's go, open up. 334 00:18:34,346 --> 00:18:35,870 Are you Herbert Baxter? Yeah. 335 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:37,609 Okay, we're executing a search warrant. 336 00:18:37,683 --> 00:18:39,651 I don't understand. Stand aside and be quiet. 337 00:18:39,718 --> 00:18:41,345 What's this about? 338 00:18:44,857 --> 00:18:47,451 Well, at least tell me what you're looking for. 339 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:56,627 I suppose this is for a dog. 340 00:18:58,904 --> 00:19:00,098 Where's the baby, Mr. Baxter? 341 00:19:00,172 --> 00:19:02,504 I don't know what you're talking about. We don't have a baby. 342 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:03,734 (Briscoe) Where's your wife? 343 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:05,208 What does my wife have to do with it? 344 00:19:05,277 --> 00:19:06,869 Dorothy Hemmerick. Is that her maiden name? 345 00:19:06,945 --> 00:19:09,470 What the hell is going on? Never mind what's going on. 346 00:19:09,548 --> 00:19:11,038 Just tell us where she is. 347 00:19:14,553 --> 00:19:18,011 She said she was going to her sister's house in Queens. 348 00:19:18,757 --> 00:19:20,190 [knocking on door] 349 00:19:22,594 --> 00:19:24,926 Dorothy Baxter? No, I'm her sister. 350 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,294 Dorie! 351 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:28,466 Dorothy Baxter? (Dorothy) Yes. 352 00:19:28,534 --> 00:19:30,627 Dorothy Baxter, you're under arrest for kidnapping. 353 00:19:30,702 --> 00:19:32,260 No, this is my baby though. 354 00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:34,305 Ma'am, I'm gonna ask you to give up the baby. 355 00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:35,431 No, I can't. 356 00:19:35,507 --> 00:19:37,304 (Briscoe) Go right ahead. Please. No. 357 00:19:37,376 --> 00:19:38,707 Just let go. It's all right. 358 00:19:38,777 --> 00:19:40,176 It's my baby though. 359 00:19:40,245 --> 00:19:42,179 I'm telling you. All right. 360 00:19:42,247 --> 00:19:43,236 Okay. 361 00:19:43,315 --> 00:19:45,044 Be careful, please. (Briscoe) Okay. 362 00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:47,619 [sobbing] 363 00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:49,984 You have the right to remain silent. Anything you do say... 364 00:19:50,055 --> 00:19:51,647 can and will be used against you. 365 00:19:56,061 --> 00:19:58,461 My wife is not a kidnapper. Right. 366 00:19:58,530 --> 00:20:00,896 She just borrowed the kid for the afternoon. 367 00:20:00,966 --> 00:20:03,594 Jeffrey is my baby. Dorothy, please. 368 00:20:05,737 --> 00:20:09,366 I'm Morris Hoffman. I'm attorney of record for Dorothy Baxter. 369 00:20:12,410 --> 00:20:12,477 I'd like any interrogation of my client to stop immediately. 370 00:20:12,477 --> 00:20:14,240 (Logan) You're a little late, Counselor. 371 00:20:14,313 --> 00:20:16,304 She admits she took the baby from the nursery. 372 00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:19,942 Well, if she did, she's well within her rights. It's their baby. 373 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:22,178 They have a contract with Debra EIkins. 374 00:20:27,693 --> 00:20:30,719 You hear the whole story, Ben, I guarantee you'll call offthe dogs. 375 00:20:30,796 --> 00:20:32,195 Mrs. Baxter's good people. 376 00:20:32,264 --> 00:20:34,323 Since when do good people steal babies? 377 00:20:34,399 --> 00:20:36,924 Well, when they honestly believe they're entitled. 378 00:20:37,002 --> 00:20:40,199 Look, Ben, Ms. EIkins answered the Baxter's ad... 379 00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:43,241 in the Hudson College newspaper. She took their money. 380 00:20:43,308 --> 00:20:44,775 You're saying they bought the baby? 381 00:20:44,843 --> 00:20:47,334 They paid her reasonable medical expenses. 382 00:20:47,412 --> 00:20:49,141 Private adoption, Ben. 383 00:20:49,214 --> 00:20:51,910 Everything was done by the book. Then the girl reneged. 384 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:54,248 Is this in writing? Well, Ms. EIkins made a promise. 385 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:56,219 Mrs. Baxter relied to her detriment. 386 00:20:56,288 --> 00:20:59,189 There are no signatures involved? Come on, Counselor. 387 00:20:59,391 --> 00:21:03,384 You want to talk validity of an oral contract, give Kim Basinger a call. 388 00:21:03,462 --> 00:21:06,090 Even if we assume they had a valid contract... 389 00:21:06,164 --> 00:21:09,759 you can't complete an adoption by snatching a baby out of foster care. 390 00:21:09,835 --> 00:21:13,100 Having a family is my wife's whole life, Mr. Stone. 391 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,734 Ten years ago she had a miscarriage, followed by a hysterectomy. 392 00:21:17,809 --> 00:21:19,299 Debbie EIkins isn't the first one. 393 00:21:19,378 --> 00:21:22,438 We've been through this four times in the past six years. 394 00:21:22,514 --> 00:21:24,846 The girls either decide to keep the baby... 395 00:21:24,916 --> 00:21:27,043 or give it to somebody with a bigger apartment. 396 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,053 Does that justify kidnapping? 397 00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:33,824 I can't even bail her out ofjail. 398 00:21:34,226 --> 00:21:37,718 They took every penny we had. This was our last chance. 399 00:21:38,263 --> 00:21:41,164 Mr. Stone, what my wife did may have been wrong... 400 00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:44,691 but you have got to understand, she is not a criminal. 401 00:21:45,604 --> 00:21:47,697 She didn't mean to hurt anybody. 402 00:21:48,173 --> 00:21:50,903 (Hoffman) Bottom line, Ben, the woman snapped. 403 00:21:51,376 --> 00:21:53,970 Call it insanity, call it diminished capacity. 404 00:21:54,046 --> 00:21:58,210 Look, if you don't buy this contract theory, can't you take the blinders off? 405 00:21:58,283 --> 00:22:00,251 Let a little compassion shine through? 406 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,447 Do us all a favor, let your expert have a go at her. 407 00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:12,525 Thanksgiving was always my favorite. Yeah. 408 00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:15,222 I know that some people like Christmas, you know. 409 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:19,361 But for me, with the whole family sitting around the table and everything. 410 00:22:20,305 --> 00:22:22,466 I've always thanked God for my family. 411 00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:24,532 Did you have a big family? 412 00:22:24,976 --> 00:22:28,912 I have three brothers, two sisters, seven nephews, five nieces. 413 00:22:31,983 --> 00:22:33,575 That's what life's about. 414 00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:38,350 People say that that's not the only thing, you know, but of course... 415 00:22:38,423 --> 00:22:40,186 they're the ones who have children. 416 00:22:40,258 --> 00:22:42,783 Yeah. And I don't know how they could say that... 417 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:44,988 because when I held Jeffrey... 418 00:22:46,164 --> 00:22:49,930 I could feel his breath right on my cheek. It was beautiful. 419 00:22:50,769 --> 00:22:54,330 Do you have children? I've never been married. 420 00:22:56,174 --> 00:22:57,903 You can still hope. 421 00:23:02,147 --> 00:23:05,742 I used to have fainting spells, and I used to have morning sickness. 422 00:23:06,318 --> 00:23:10,687 And sometimes, I even thought I could hear the baby or feel the baby kicking. 423 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:15,925 The doctors call that the haunted womb syndrome. 424 00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:18,690 It's very common after a miscarriage. 425 00:23:19,030 --> 00:23:21,464 Every morning on my way to work... 426 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:25,101 I walk five blocks out of my way, so that I do not have to see... 427 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:27,229 the children on their way to PS 3. 428 00:23:27,672 --> 00:23:29,606 And if I see a baby carriage... 429 00:23:30,542 --> 00:23:32,874 the only thing I want to do is run and hide. 430 00:23:34,479 --> 00:23:36,811 It's only natural, Dorothy. No! 431 00:23:37,149 --> 00:23:38,138 No. 432 00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:41,775 What's natural is having a baby. That's what's natural. 433 00:23:45,056 --> 00:23:47,786 I have been through this so many times. 434 00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:51,985 That girl told me that she wanted me to have that baby. 435 00:23:53,231 --> 00:23:54,721 It's not fair. 436 00:23:56,034 --> 00:23:58,229 (Olivet) The woman's certainly been through the wringer. 437 00:23:58,303 --> 00:24:01,170 There's only so much frustration any psyche can take. 438 00:24:01,239 --> 00:24:03,833 You're saying she honestly didn't know what she was doing? 439 00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:05,570 I wish I could say that. 440 00:24:05,644 --> 00:24:08,943 You're not saying that she can plead insanity, are you? 441 00:24:09,014 --> 00:24:11,949 Well, both God and society said, "Be fruitful and multiply." 442 00:24:12,017 --> 00:24:14,508 Only the doctors told her she couldn't. 443 00:24:14,586 --> 00:24:16,884 And when that reality set in, her self-image as a woman... 444 00:24:16,955 --> 00:24:18,946 and as a human being all but disappeared. 445 00:24:19,024 --> 00:24:22,391 But that does not justify what she did. I'm not saying that. 446 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,953 Only along comes Debra EIkins and all her predecessors. 447 00:24:26,264 --> 00:24:30,360 They dangle a carrot in front of her nose and say, "Run fast enough and it's yours." 448 00:24:30,435 --> 00:24:34,428 How many laps around the track does it take before you believe you deserve a bite? 449 00:24:36,908 --> 00:24:41,072 Put me on the stand, Ben. As a psychiatrist, I'll say Dorothy Baxter was legally sane. 450 00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:45,148 Ask me as a member of the human race if I think she deserves to go to prison... 451 00:24:45,217 --> 00:24:47,412 you'll get an unqualified no. 452 00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:51,053 My son and his wife ran Ioop-to-Ioops... 453 00:24:51,122 --> 00:24:53,886 with the adoption services for six years. 454 00:24:54,092 --> 00:24:56,754 Desperation begets desperate measures. 455 00:24:56,828 --> 00:24:58,796 I doubt if Josh would have stolen a child. 456 00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:02,994 No. He wouldn't be so fast to put the Baxter woman behind bars, either. 457 00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:07,829 If Olivet felt sorry for her, imagine what 24 crying eyes... 458 00:25:07,906 --> 00:25:10,306 in ajury will do to our case. 459 00:25:10,375 --> 00:25:11,569 You want us to let her walk? 460 00:25:11,643 --> 00:25:15,943 I want you to get on the phone to Morris Hoffman and work something out. 461 00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:23,049 The defendant wishes to withdraw her plea of not guilty... 462 00:25:23,121 --> 00:25:25,419 and enter a plea of guilty, Your Honor. 463 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:27,549 I assume there's been some negotiation on this? 464 00:25:27,626 --> 00:25:30,993 We've agreed on a plea of custodial interference in the first degree, Your Honor. 465 00:25:31,062 --> 00:25:34,828 With a suspended sentence. Mrs. Baxter has agreed to undergo... 466 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,733 six months of psychiatric outpatient treatment. 467 00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:43,037 Mrs. Baxter, do you realize you're pleading guilty to a class E felony? 468 00:25:44,976 --> 00:25:46,034 Yes. 469 00:25:46,111 --> 00:25:49,512 Has your attorney advised you ofthe consequences of such a plea? 470 00:25:49,581 --> 00:25:50,570 Yes. 471 00:25:50,649 --> 00:25:54,016 Please describe your criminal acts in your own words. 472 00:25:57,022 --> 00:25:59,183 I took Jeffrey from the hospital. 473 00:26:01,493 --> 00:26:03,393 I wanted to say that... 474 00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:08,059 we did everything that we were supposed to do. 475 00:26:09,401 --> 00:26:12,768 We gave her money, we took care of her... 476 00:26:14,506 --> 00:26:17,998 and then she dumped us just because we don't live in Westchester. 477 00:26:20,211 --> 00:26:23,703 I want to know where it says that you need a backyard to love your baby. 478 00:26:24,015 --> 00:26:27,109 Do you understand now that the baby isn't yours? 479 00:26:33,992 --> 00:26:35,482 You should have seen her, Ben. 480 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,552 Pathetic doesn't even begin to describe Dorothy Baxter. 481 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:42,191 I doubt six months on the couch will even scratch the surface. 482 00:26:46,171 --> 00:26:48,503 She's probably as confused as Mrs. Baxter. 483 00:26:48,573 --> 00:26:50,564 You don't give your baby away every day. 484 00:26:50,642 --> 00:26:53,167 You know, I'm starting to think maybe she's not as confused... 485 00:26:53,244 --> 00:26:55,007 as she would have us believe. 486 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,311 In her allocution, Baxter said that EIkins rejected her in favor... 487 00:26:58,383 --> 00:27:00,510 of someone who lived in Westchester. 488 00:27:00,585 --> 00:27:02,485 You live in this city. You blame her? 489 00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,751 The Savitts also live here. What are you saying? 490 00:27:07,258 --> 00:27:09,249 That she promised the baby to somebody else? 491 00:27:09,327 --> 00:27:12,125 We know of two couples already paying her way. 492 00:27:12,197 --> 00:27:13,528 The more, the merrier. 493 00:27:15,867 --> 00:27:20,702 Both the Savitts and the Baxters placed ads in that college newspaper, right? 494 00:27:20,972 --> 00:27:23,497 Let's see if the mystery couple in Westchester... 495 00:27:24,509 --> 00:27:27,876 tried contacting the stork in the same way. 496 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,980 But if you're right... 497 00:27:32,117 --> 00:27:34,176 God help us. 498 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:41,451 (Ric) We spent a week with her in the city. 499 00:27:41,526 --> 00:27:45,018 Plaza Hotel, four-star restaurants. She said it was her first time. 500 00:27:45,096 --> 00:27:47,360 She helped us pick out furniture for the nursery. 501 00:27:47,432 --> 00:27:50,765 FAO Schwarz, Bergdorf's, the works. 502 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:53,827 The week cost me close to $15,000. 503 00:27:54,272 --> 00:27:56,900 Then, she has the nerve to ask me if she can stay another week. 504 00:27:56,975 --> 00:27:59,205 She's just a kid, Ric. It's over, Mary. 505 00:27:59,978 --> 00:28:01,639 We're not getting the baby. 506 00:28:04,315 --> 00:28:07,284 Did you ever send her money? Does $10,000 cash count? 507 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,047 It was always something with this girl. 508 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:12,248 One week she couldn't pay her rent, the next week she couldn't afford a doctor. 509 00:28:12,323 --> 00:28:13,722 It's cold, they shut off her heat. 510 00:28:13,792 --> 00:28:14,781 (Mary) She got depressed. 511 00:28:15,593 --> 00:28:18,027 She'd probably be better off getting an abortion but... 512 00:28:18,096 --> 00:28:19,791 how could we let her do that? 513 00:28:19,864 --> 00:28:22,560 Did she ever say specifically that if you gave her money... 514 00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:24,124 she would give you the baby in return? 515 00:28:24,202 --> 00:28:26,432 She said she wanted us to have the baby. 516 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,470 I'm afraid that's not good enough. 517 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:32,806 When we were in Saks, looking at baby clothes... 518 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:34,504 Debbie started to cry. 519 00:28:34,879 --> 00:28:38,280 She said it was the first time in months that she felt good about things. 520 00:28:38,349 --> 00:28:41,580 She said her baby was lucky to have us as parents. 521 00:28:42,153 --> 00:28:44,417 She sent me a sonogram ofthe baby. 522 00:28:44,489 --> 00:28:46,320 On Mother's Day, I got a card. 523 00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:49,019 (Ric) Tell me, what kind of sadist would do something like that? 524 00:28:49,661 --> 00:28:51,925 We've been through it before, Miss Kincaid. 525 00:28:52,097 --> 00:28:54,827 I realize for these girls it's a tough situation. 526 00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:57,899 But this one, she's special. 527 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,931 Garrett Stubbs. Nice fellow. 528 00:29:05,009 --> 00:29:08,445 Twenty years ago, prosecuted him for... 529 00:29:08,513 --> 00:29:11,641 selling the same building to three different buyers. 530 00:29:11,716 --> 00:29:13,343 Talk about Irish charm. 531 00:29:13,418 --> 00:29:15,443 The problem is, she never actually told the couples... 532 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,954 if they gave her money, she'd give them her baby. 533 00:29:18,022 --> 00:29:19,512 Hell ofacon. 534 00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:23,754 She plants the seed and then lets their imaginations do the rest. 535 00:29:23,962 --> 00:29:27,625 She can take reasonable medical expenses, but she cannot sell a baby. 536 00:29:27,699 --> 00:29:30,998 Unless you can call an emergency session... 537 00:29:31,069 --> 00:29:33,435 of the state legislature, she can. 538 00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:36,531 So you're saying selling a baby is not against the law? 539 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:41,511 The domestic relations law says a contract to sell a baby is null and void. 540 00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:43,303 The penal law says nothing. 541 00:29:43,381 --> 00:29:45,542 That's unbelievable. That's slavery. 542 00:29:45,784 --> 00:29:48,617 That went out a century ago. For everybody but children. 543 00:29:48,686 --> 00:29:52,349 We don't have standing to institute a civil suit, so-- 544 00:29:52,423 --> 00:29:53,754 So we can't do anything. 545 00:29:53,825 --> 00:29:56,259 (Stone) Debra EIkins took money from three couples. 546 00:29:56,327 --> 00:29:59,319 Each of whom thought that they would receive the baby. 547 00:29:59,564 --> 00:30:04,160 If we can prove that she never intended to give that baby to anyone-- 548 00:30:04,235 --> 00:30:05,725 Larceny by false promise. 549 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:08,466 And she received more than $60,000. 550 00:30:08,573 --> 00:30:10,598 That's grand larceny two. 551 00:30:13,077 --> 00:30:15,568 You dragged my client down from Poughkeepsie for this? 552 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:18,480 A C felony always gets my attention, Jane. 553 00:30:19,083 --> 00:30:20,448 What's he talking about? 554 00:30:20,518 --> 00:30:23,214 Why don't you ask the Baxters, the Savitts, or the Cushmans? 555 00:30:23,288 --> 00:30:24,812 Hey, ifthey're stupid enough-- 556 00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:25,878 (Jane) Ben. 557 00:30:25,957 --> 00:30:28,983 I know you've been stuck in this building for God knows how long... 558 00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:32,894 but across the street, the birth mother always has the right to change her mind. 559 00:30:32,964 --> 00:30:36,058 Check the domestic relations law. She's got 45 days. 560 00:30:36,134 --> 00:30:38,102 I'm more interested in the penal law, Jane. 561 00:30:38,169 --> 00:30:41,502 Specifically, the sections on grand larceny. 562 00:30:41,573 --> 00:30:44,167 I never asked these people for anything. 563 00:30:44,242 --> 00:30:47,109 What they gave me, they gave on their own. 564 00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:48,975 I never promised them anything. 565 00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:53,541 You led them to believe-- I know exactly what I said, Mr. Stone. 566 00:30:54,385 --> 00:30:57,980 I also know I can't be held liable for what they assumed. 567 00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:02,493 On the other had, Miss EIkins, you did take money from these people... 568 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,620 knowing full well that the baby would not be adopted by anyone. 569 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:07,927 (Jen) Very creative, Ben. Now I'd like to see you prove it... 570 00:31:07,999 --> 00:31:10,797 considering the fact that the baby has already been adopted... 571 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:12,769 by Les and Gwen Savitt. 572 00:31:19,477 --> 00:31:22,275 Miss EIkins, how does this con game work? 573 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,813 When you found out that you were pregnant, was the first call to your lawyer... 574 00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:28,648 to find out what you could or could not say to these people? 575 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,811 As a matter of fact, yeah. 576 00:31:38,529 --> 00:31:41,259 You should have seen her. The girl's inhuman. 577 00:31:41,332 --> 00:31:44,824 Unfortunately, inhumanity is not against the law. 578 00:31:45,169 --> 00:31:48,036 The law's supposed to be a shield, Adam, not a sword. 579 00:31:48,106 --> 00:31:50,904 Debra EIkins took it, manipulated it, and drove it right through... 580 00:31:50,975 --> 00:31:52,169 these people's hearts. 581 00:31:52,243 --> 00:31:53,938 And enjoyed every minute of it. 582 00:31:54,012 --> 00:31:56,344 Why shouldn't she? It made her a lot of money. 583 00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:58,881 Well, the Savitts obviously won the baby contest. 584 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,180 I find it hard to believe that they didn't offer Debra... 585 00:32:01,252 --> 00:32:03,311 a little more consideration than the other couples. 586 00:32:03,388 --> 00:32:06,118 So you're thinking Debra was a little more adamant with her demands? 587 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:07,179 A lot more adamant. 588 00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:10,352 Whatever you want, Ben. Ijust want this girl offthe street. 589 00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:11,417 Okay. 590 00:32:13,531 --> 00:32:14,555 [cooing] 591 00:32:14,632 --> 00:32:16,429 You must be kidding. 592 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:18,961 We're not stupid, Mr. Stone. 593 00:32:20,204 --> 00:32:22,832 We know that if we help you, we lose our son. 594 00:32:22,907 --> 00:32:25,034 (Stone) Debra can only contest to the adoption... 595 00:32:25,109 --> 00:32:27,304 within 45 days after giving birth. 596 00:32:27,378 --> 00:32:29,778 By the time we're at trial, we'll belong past that. 597 00:32:29,847 --> 00:32:31,940 She cannot take your baby away from you. 598 00:32:32,016 --> 00:32:33,381 (Les) You don't get it, do you? 599 00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:36,045 Do you have any idea how long we've waited for this? 600 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,214 There is no way I'm gonna let anything screw this up now. 601 00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:40,552 This girl is dangerous. 602 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,389 Which is exactly why you're not going to get anything out of us. 603 00:32:43,461 --> 00:32:46,692 If you actually bought the baby-- It's not against the law. 604 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:47,856 (Kincaid) No. 605 00:32:47,932 --> 00:32:50,298 But then the adoption is null and void. 606 00:32:50,601 --> 00:32:52,125 You can't take my baby. 607 00:32:52,203 --> 00:32:55,730 Mrs. Savitt, we can subpoena your bank records. 608 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:59,072 (Les) I thought blackmail was against the law, Mr. Stone. 609 00:33:00,278 --> 00:33:04,214 Do what you have to do, but I'm telling you right now, you're wasting your time. 610 00:33:05,950 --> 00:33:08,942 Well, ifthe Savitts paid EIkins, they covered their tracks. 611 00:33:09,020 --> 00:33:11,887 No records of any transfers from either of their banks. 612 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:14,281 So we're back to running in circles. 613 00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:17,090 Well, we can always put the Savitts on the stand. 614 00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:19,755 No, I think they'd even risk perjury. 615 00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:22,356 When you had that meeting with the Cushmans... 616 00:33:22,433 --> 00:33:25,698 wasn't there something in your memo about abortion? 617 00:33:26,671 --> 00:33:30,004 Mrs. Cushman said that whenever EIkins got depressed about money... 618 00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:32,406 she talked about ending her pregnancy. 619 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:35,201 Doesn't that sound like extortion to you? 620 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,445 Extortion? 621 00:33:37,882 --> 00:33:41,147 I'd get my Bar review outlines out, Counselor. It's time for a little brush up. 622 00:33:41,219 --> 00:33:44,450 Your client threatened physical injury if she did not receive payment. 623 00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:46,353 She's been accused of a lot, but I didn't hear... 624 00:33:46,424 --> 00:33:47,857 anyone say she held a gun to their heads. 625 00:33:47,925 --> 00:33:50,223 Then brush the dust offthe outline. 626 00:33:50,294 --> 00:33:53,422 The statute reads, "Threat of physical injury to anybody." 627 00:33:53,498 --> 00:33:56,467 We know she told the Cushmans she was contemplating abortion. 628 00:33:57,468 --> 00:33:59,368 This is ajoke, right? 629 00:33:59,971 --> 00:34:02,599 I find nothing amusing about your client. 630 00:34:02,673 --> 00:34:05,335 Why don't we see what Judge Sanderson thinks? 631 00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:07,207 Fine. Let's do that. 632 00:34:08,646 --> 00:34:12,309 To be accurate, the extortion statute requires a threat... 633 00:34:12,383 --> 00:34:14,544 to cause injury to a person. 634 00:34:14,619 --> 00:34:17,452 It doesn't mention a person not yet born. 635 00:34:17,588 --> 00:34:21,024 A fetus older than 24 weeks is deemed a person... 636 00:34:21,092 --> 00:34:22,753 for purposes ofthe murder statute. 637 00:34:22,827 --> 00:34:24,089 By extension-- Come on, Counselor. 638 00:34:24,162 --> 00:34:26,562 Every first-year law student knows the penal law is meant... 639 00:34:26,631 --> 00:34:28,758 to be narrowly construed. We don't extend. 640 00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:30,630 If it's not in those pages, it doesn't count. 641 00:34:30,701 --> 00:34:33,602 The statute also covers threats to damaged property. 642 00:34:33,671 --> 00:34:36,003 And if, as you state, a fetus... 643 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:38,975 is not a person at any point in its gestation-- 644 00:34:39,043 --> 00:34:41,409 I don't want to hear the end ofthat argument, Ben. 645 00:34:41,479 --> 00:34:43,640 I understand, Your Honor. But this case-- 646 00:34:43,714 --> 00:34:46,512 Deserves to leave skidmarks on the bowl. 647 00:34:46,651 --> 00:34:47,743 Thank you. 648 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:51,311 Don't hold a ticker-tape parade just yet, Miss Schuman. 649 00:34:52,256 --> 00:34:55,555 I'm going to let the State take its case to a jury. 650 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,954 This is ridiculous. 651 00:34:57,028 --> 00:34:59,189 If I get reversed, so be it. 652 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:02,857 But I have a feeling your client is exactly the sort a panel ofjudges... 653 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:05,368 would love to use to make new law. 654 00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:12,808 Whatever we gave her, she just wanted more. 655 00:35:13,578 --> 00:35:17,742 Did there come a time when you felt you had to inform Miss EIkins... 656 00:35:18,416 --> 00:35:21,408 that you could no longer give her additional funds? 657 00:35:21,486 --> 00:35:22,578 Yes. 658 00:35:23,187 --> 00:35:26,156 We're not, you know, wealthy people and... 659 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,855 we had already given her $10,000... 660 00:35:30,561 --> 00:35:34,088 and we told her that we were struggling to get by, as it was. 661 00:35:34,165 --> 00:35:36,133 How did she respond to that? 662 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,397 She said, "What's the use?" 663 00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:43,338 She said, "Maybe it would be best for everyone... 664 00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:46,275 "if I just didn't go through with it." 665 00:35:46,444 --> 00:35:48,844 What do you think she meant by that? 666 00:35:51,182 --> 00:35:53,241 That she would terminate the pregnancy. 667 00:35:53,951 --> 00:35:55,316 Thank you. 668 00:35:55,887 --> 00:35:57,252 Your witness. 669 00:36:00,124 --> 00:36:01,785 Isn't it true, Mrs. Baxter... 670 00:36:01,859 --> 00:36:05,522 that you pled guilty to kidnapping my client's baby? 671 00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:07,488 She told me he was mine. 672 00:36:07,565 --> 00:36:10,864 Now, Mrs. Baxter, if she really... 673 00:36:10,935 --> 00:36:12,732 said that, then... 674 00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:16,771 you wouldn't have been guilty of a crime, isn't that so? 675 00:36:16,974 --> 00:36:19,568 She sent me a list of baby names that she liked. 676 00:36:19,644 --> 00:36:22,306 And you interpreted that to mean that the baby was yours? 677 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:24,905 She said that she wanted us to have the baby. 678 00:36:24,982 --> 00:36:26,973 She said that we would have made the best parents. 679 00:36:27,051 --> 00:36:31,681 Did she ever say that she was going to give up the baby to you for adoption? 680 00:36:32,423 --> 00:36:35,153 Not in so many words. So that's a no. 681 00:36:39,397 --> 00:36:40,455 No. 682 00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:44,968 So basically, you misunderstood her intentions, isn't that so? 683 00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:48,529 I guess so. 684 00:36:48,606 --> 00:36:51,837 Isn't it possible then that you also misunderstood her intentions... 685 00:36:51,909 --> 00:36:54,343 when she talked about an abortion? 686 00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,279 I don't know how many times she said it. 687 00:37:00,351 --> 00:37:02,615 "Maybe I should just get an abortion." 688 00:37:02,687 --> 00:37:05,417 How did you respond? Sent her more money. 689 00:37:05,723 --> 00:37:08,089 That got her out of her depression in a hurry. 690 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:11,128 (Stone) So it was your understanding at that time... 691 00:37:11,195 --> 00:37:14,221 that Debra EIkins would terminate her pregnancy... 692 00:37:14,298 --> 00:37:15,765 if you did not give her more money? 693 00:37:15,833 --> 00:37:19,291 She had a way of making me believe everything she said. 694 00:37:19,370 --> 00:37:21,201 I had to believe her. 695 00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:23,797 All right, thank you. Your witness. 696 00:37:26,844 --> 00:37:31,747 Can I assume that you felt just awful when you found out that Debra decided... 697 00:37:31,816 --> 00:37:34,182 to give the baby to someone else? 698 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:36,049 I don't have a baby. 699 00:37:37,088 --> 00:37:39,488 My husband is filing for divorce. 700 00:37:41,192 --> 00:37:42,819 She should be punished. 701 00:37:42,893 --> 00:37:45,487 You know, some people would call that sour grapes, Mrs. Cushman. 702 00:37:45,563 --> 00:37:46,928 Objection. 703 00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:52,427 (Schuman) Ben. 704 00:37:53,471 --> 00:37:57,999 No matter what Judge Sanderson thinks, a motion alone doesn't get you a conviction. 705 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:01,943 I've established my prima facie case, and that's all I'm concerned about. 706 00:38:02,013 --> 00:38:05,346 Yeah? Well, I wouldn't count my chickens just yet. 707 00:38:05,416 --> 00:38:07,714 I just added a new witness to my list. 708 00:38:08,319 --> 00:38:12,483 Mr. Savitt will be taking the stand. Have fun. 709 00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:17,985 We'd been through it a dozen times over the past five years. 710 00:38:18,062 --> 00:38:21,828 A girl answers our ad, we meet her, we like her, hopefully, she likes us. 711 00:38:21,899 --> 00:38:24,595 It really doesn't mean anything. So... 712 00:38:25,169 --> 00:38:26,966 even though you paid Debbie's expenses... 713 00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:29,768 you never thought the adoption was a sure thing? 714 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,138 You go through this enough, you realize these girls... 715 00:38:32,209 --> 00:38:34,769 are in an overwhelming emotional situation. 716 00:38:34,845 --> 00:38:36,813 Was there ever a time when Debbie told you... 717 00:38:36,881 --> 00:38:38,872 she was considering having an abortion? 718 00:38:38,949 --> 00:38:42,749 Like it or not, that's one ofthe options available to girls in her situation. 719 00:38:42,887 --> 00:38:46,550 Sure, she talked about it, but it's not as if she held it over our heads or anything. 720 00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:48,751 I just want to be clear, Mr. Savitt. 721 00:38:48,826 --> 00:38:51,260 Did Debbie EIkins ever give you an ultimatum? 722 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:54,162 Give her money, or she ends her pregnancy? 723 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:58,365 Of course not. No more questions. 724 00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:05,640 Mr. Savitt, was there ever a time when Debra EIkins asked you for money... 725 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:07,903 that you could not deliver a check? 726 00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:11,337 I make a good living. The money was nothing. 727 00:39:11,449 --> 00:39:13,041 I see. So... 728 00:39:13,584 --> 00:39:18,248 Ms. EIkins never had to resort to extortionist tactics, correct? 729 00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:22,087 You give her too much credit, Mr. Stone. Debbie's not that kind ofgirl. 730 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:25,128 Sure, maybe she's mixed up, but all she's trying to do... 731 00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,926 is place her baby with the best possible family. 732 00:39:27,998 --> 00:39:29,260 She's not a criminal. 733 00:39:29,333 --> 00:39:30,527 Oh, really? 734 00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:34,965 Well, what do you call intentionally misleading the Baxters and the Cushmans... 735 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,599 into thinking that they were going to receive the child... 736 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:41,008 so that Debra EIkins could receive as much money as she could? 737 00:39:41,078 --> 00:39:43,137 Objection. Sustained. 738 00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:45,944 I know these other people are disappointed. 739 00:39:46,016 --> 00:39:47,916 I understand that. I've been there. 740 00:39:47,985 --> 00:39:51,079 And the easiest thing in the world is to blame the birth mother. 741 00:39:51,188 --> 00:39:52,553 But it's hardly extortion. 742 00:39:52,623 --> 00:39:56,582 Oh, and besides, Debra EIkins, she's just not that kind of girl, right? 743 00:39:58,796 --> 00:40:00,889 Then why are you here, sir? 744 00:40:00,965 --> 00:40:02,489 You have the baby. Objection. 745 00:40:02,566 --> 00:40:04,158 (Stone) Did she promise you something? 746 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:05,759 She threaten you? (Schuman) Your Honor. 747 00:40:05,836 --> 00:40:06,962 Enough. 748 00:40:07,037 --> 00:40:08,436 Mr. Stone. 749 00:40:11,075 --> 00:40:14,567 We both know what kind of girl Debra EIkins is, sir. And... 750 00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:17,578 don't think you're any better. 751 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:24,050 The jury had to see that Les Savitt had another agenda. 752 00:40:24,121 --> 00:40:26,453 (Kincaid) Only your entire cross was inadmissible. 753 00:40:26,524 --> 00:40:28,754 The judge instructed them to disregard. 754 00:40:28,826 --> 00:40:30,521 The jury can't ignore what they heard. 755 00:40:30,594 --> 00:40:34,496 And when the appellate judges hear it, it'll add fuel to Schuman's fire. 756 00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:36,231 [intercom buzzing] 757 00:40:39,737 --> 00:40:40,795 Yes? 758 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:43,700 We'll be right there. 759 00:40:44,942 --> 00:40:47,570 The Savitts are in your office with their lawyer. 760 00:40:50,347 --> 00:40:51,939 Now before we start, Ben. 761 00:40:52,016 --> 00:40:54,712 I want your assurances you're not going to get any crazy ideas... 762 00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:56,480 about charging my client with anything. 763 00:40:56,554 --> 00:41:00,012 If your client is looking for absolution, Ed, he came to the wrong building. 764 00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:01,489 Whatever. 765 00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:04,593 Now let's assume, hypothetically speaking, of course... 766 00:41:04,662 --> 00:41:08,154 that Mr. Savitt wants to change his testimony. 767 00:41:12,703 --> 00:41:14,603 This is not a game, sir. 768 00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:15,796 Perjury is a serious crime. 769 00:41:15,873 --> 00:41:18,103 Yeah, we understand that, but that's not the real issue. 770 00:41:18,175 --> 00:41:21,372 The real issue is, how badly do you want the EIkins girl? 771 00:41:21,445 --> 00:41:25,142 Now you give Mr. Savitt a free ride, and you get the girl. 772 00:41:27,184 --> 00:41:28,981 What are we talking about? 773 00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:35,124 The girl didn'tjust threaten us. 774 00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:37,852 She tortured us. 775 00:41:40,197 --> 00:41:43,655 Once, I suggested that she was maybe spending too much money. 776 00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:48,038 About a week later, Gwen got a hysterical phone call. 777 00:41:49,406 --> 00:41:52,432 She was sick. Could we meet her at her doctor's office in Poughkeepsie? 778 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:56,412 And when I got there, it wasn't a doctor's office, it was an abortion clinic. 779 00:41:56,780 --> 00:42:00,648 She kept sending us these sick pictures of dead fetuses. 780 00:42:00,718 --> 00:42:04,176 And then, she'd write on the bottom, something like, "This could be yours." 781 00:42:04,255 --> 00:42:06,086 She's an animal, Mr. Stone. 782 00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:08,056 Do you have any ofthese pictures? 783 00:42:08,125 --> 00:42:09,183 (Gwen) Les did. 784 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,125 At first, in case, you know. 785 00:42:11,195 --> 00:42:14,255 But then, once we got the baby, I made him get rid of all ofthem. 786 00:42:14,431 --> 00:42:16,956 Mr. Savitt, I assume that you did not come here... 787 00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:19,025 out ofthe goodness of your heart. 788 00:42:20,571 --> 00:42:24,598 We gave her a bond worth $75,000 when the baby was born. 789 00:42:25,175 --> 00:42:26,608 What does she want from us? 790 00:42:26,677 --> 00:42:29,475 Are you now saying that she's asking for more money? 791 00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:32,209 Not her. Her boyfriend. 792 00:42:33,551 --> 00:42:37,453 After I testified, he tried to shake us down for another $100,000. 793 00:42:38,956 --> 00:42:41,481 He said we give him the money, or he contests the adoption. 794 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:42,958 (Kincaid) Steven Shaw? 795 00:42:43,394 --> 00:42:46,124 He doesn't have standing. He does if he's the father. 796 00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:50,462 Kid's got a blood test to prove it and a suitcase full of Baby Jessica clippings. 797 00:42:50,534 --> 00:42:52,695 (Gwen) It's never going to end with this girl. 798 00:42:53,871 --> 00:42:57,329 We can't put ourselves or our baby through this. 799 00:43:02,279 --> 00:43:04,247 (Schuman) My favorite kind of adversary, Ben. 800 00:43:04,315 --> 00:43:07,614 Rather than suffer the agony of defeat, raise those white flags early. 801 00:43:07,685 --> 00:43:09,448 (Stone) You may be right, Jane. 802 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,318 I may not have a case against your client. 803 00:43:12,389 --> 00:43:16,291 But against Mr. Shaw, that's another story. 804 00:43:17,261 --> 00:43:18,558 What are you talking about? 805 00:43:18,629 --> 00:43:20,620 (Kincaid) We had a discussion with the Savitts. 806 00:43:20,698 --> 00:43:23,758 Two eyewitnesses to extortion and grand larceny. 807 00:43:23,834 --> 00:43:25,995 And they're both felonies, sir. 808 00:43:27,237 --> 00:43:29,535 Wait a minute. You mean, I go to jail, and she walks away? 809 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:31,404 Shut up, Steven. To hell with that. 810 00:43:31,475 --> 00:43:33,136 Can't you see what he's trying to do? 811 00:43:33,210 --> 00:43:34,609 You're entitled to a lawyer, sir. 812 00:43:34,678 --> 00:43:38,808 Listen to me, Steven, listen, everything is under control. 813 00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:41,818 They think we're just poor white trash. 814 00:43:41,919 --> 00:43:43,216 Maybe they're right. 815 00:43:43,988 --> 00:43:45,512 You shut your stupid face. 816 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:48,114 Stop calling me stupid. Stevie. 817 00:43:48,192 --> 00:43:50,752 Stevie, come on, sweetie. 818 00:43:51,462 --> 00:43:52,827 I love you. 819 00:43:54,231 --> 00:43:55,630 Don't blow this. 820 00:43:55,899 --> 00:43:58,868 You are such a bitch, you know that? 821 00:43:58,936 --> 00:44:02,269 We are making sentencing recommendations that your terms... 822 00:44:02,339 --> 00:44:05,206 be served consecutively, not concurrently. 823 00:44:05,776 --> 00:44:08,336 That means you're going away for a long time. 824 00:44:08,412 --> 00:44:09,936 Just ignore him. 825 00:44:11,982 --> 00:44:14,712 Apparently, Miss EIkins, "stupid" here... 826 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:18,147 is going to prison for you. 827 00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:26,292 I want a deal. You see what I gotta put up with? 828 00:44:26,363 --> 00:44:28,490 (Stone) The deal depends on what you tell us. 829 00:44:30,134 --> 00:44:31,931 It was all her idea. 830 00:44:32,469 --> 00:44:35,529 She had this whole thing planned before she even got pregnant. 831 00:44:35,606 --> 00:44:37,471 I didn't want anything to do with kids. 832 00:44:37,541 --> 00:44:40,977 And then, she gets knocked up, like it was an accident. 833 00:44:41,145 --> 00:44:43,909 (Stone) Did you witness personally any of her extortion? 834 00:44:43,981 --> 00:44:45,346 (Steven) Are you kidding me? 835 00:44:45,582 --> 00:44:49,074 She had me go to the Right to Lifers to get these pictures. 836 00:44:49,319 --> 00:44:51,947 I heard her on the phone. She's good. 837 00:44:52,289 --> 00:44:53,881 You want to know what she did? 838 00:44:54,058 --> 00:44:56,390 She's giving birth to the kid in the hotel room... 839 00:44:56,460 --> 00:44:58,519 she's on the phone taking bids between contractions. 840 00:44:58,595 --> 00:45:00,256 She wouldn't take him to the hospital. 841 00:45:00,330 --> 00:45:02,298 She wants me to make a quick sale. 842 00:45:02,366 --> 00:45:05,096 All you have is his word, Ben, and we all know how much... 843 00:45:05,169 --> 00:45:07,069 character it takes to be a felon. 844 00:45:07,504 --> 00:45:11,372 How much character does it take to auction off your own child? 845 00:45:13,077 --> 00:45:15,102 You want to talk about character? 846 00:45:15,913 --> 00:45:18,905 The only reason that any of these people cared about me... 847 00:45:18,982 --> 00:45:21,678 is because I had something they wanted. 848 00:45:22,486 --> 00:45:25,614 You don't think I know what they think about me? 849 00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:28,657 They used me, so I used them back. 850 00:45:29,193 --> 00:45:31,093 By selling yourchild? 851 00:45:32,362 --> 00:45:33,795 My first kid.... 852 00:45:34,531 --> 00:45:38,467 I'm sitting in the St. Vincent's Home for Girls in Poughkeepsie. 853 00:45:38,535 --> 00:45:41,993 All these people being nice to me, all their fake smiles... 854 00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:44,404 their phony, "How are you, Debbies?" 855 00:45:45,209 --> 00:45:49,703 They take my baby, and I'm back to my crappy apartment and my crappy life. 856 00:45:50,214 --> 00:45:53,149 I wasn't gonna let that happen to me again. 857 00:45:53,851 --> 00:45:57,343 So I make babies, Mr. Stone. Hell, I'm good at it. 858 00:45:57,688 --> 00:46:01,055 So what ifthere are people willing to pay me for it? 859 00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:07,291 Grand larceny two, Ben. She serves the minimum. 860 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:12,030 She serves 4-to-12. 861 00:46:20,544 --> 00:46:22,136 Ijust spoke with Gwen Savitt. 862 00:46:22,212 --> 00:46:25,113 They're taking the baby and leaving New York for places unknown. 863 00:46:25,182 --> 00:46:27,810 All the publicity. Who can blame them? 864 00:46:27,885 --> 00:46:30,285 It's not the publicity that scares them, Adam. 865 00:46:30,654 --> 00:46:33,646 It's the knock on the door 12 years from now. 72007

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