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Welcome to West Hollywood
where the women are strong
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and the men are pretty.
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For this area of West
Hollywood has become the Mecca
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in the homosexual community.
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And one of the reasons gay men give
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for having come here is that
they feel more comfortable.
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Two African-American gay men
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took their last breaths
in the West Hollywood home
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of a wealthy Democratic donor.
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Ed Buck is
well-known in West Hollywood
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battling city hall for causes
near and dear to his heart
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and spending big bucks on
candidates who support his views.
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Gemmel Moore and Timothy Dean
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have both died of overdoses
in Buck's West Hollywood
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apartment in the last couple of years.
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The LA County
Sheriff's Department
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says they have found no
suspicious circumstances
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of foul play.
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We have a lot of
victims who have came forward.
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ED Buck needs to be stopped.
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A loud
call for DA Jackie Lacey
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to prosecute Buck for murder.
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It's your cake.
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Put the damn candles out.
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- You can come water-
- What are you gonna do?
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You're not gonna pour a
cup of water on that cake.
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What is going on?
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- Gemmel was a 26 year old young son,
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brother, friend, trying
to maneuver through life.
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- After Gemmel was gone,
I didn't at all think
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that it was going to be swept
under the rug like that.
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It was a surreal realization
of how invaluable
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my life as a black gay man was.
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- We are his extended family.
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My love for Gemmel will be endless,
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and we do wanna make sure
that this never happens again.
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Oh, look at me, look at me.
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I got to get two.
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- Danny, this was a great meet.
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- One thing about Tim, he
would step up to the plate
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when needed.
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You can call and tell him what you need.
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A, B, C, D, E, and he'd
follow it to the note.
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- He was always looking out for people.
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Tim was a really special
guy, and I really didn't get
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to see the 360 view of
him until he passed.
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- Gemmel and Timothy
had never crossed paths
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with each other coming together.
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When you realize how many lives
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those two individuals
touched and had their life
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not being as precious as
it was to so many people.
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We probably wouldn't be here.
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- Gemmel and I met when
we both were coming out
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to explore our gay side and
interact with the gay community.
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We were both kind of standoffish
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and that's kinda how us two
were attracted to each other
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'cause when we would be at events
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and we both we just kinda
holding the wall up.
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- He was always like very
mischievous and quiet.
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- He liked to be in new places
and be where nobody knew him
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and, you know, be the
boy that was mysterious.
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He didn't talk very much and you know,
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he just kind of give a little bit,
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give a little bit here
and a little bit there
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and maybe do a little bit something crazy
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and then just disappear.
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He loved doing that.
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We were part of the house
and ballroom community,
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which is a sub community
within the LGBT community.
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- The ballroom is
basically like a pageant.
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You have different categories.
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You pick members that are pretty much
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the best at each category and they compete
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against each other.
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It's
like a fraternity, but gay.
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Being black and coming to West Hollywood
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when you're not accepted,
they kind of look out for you.
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- Ballroom and house
community started way back
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during Stonewall.
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Being gay was basically illegal.
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A lot of gays were
ousted by their families
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and thrown to the streets.
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They came together in different groups
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and it was actually a house.
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What a gay family
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or gay ballroom family would do,
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we would take you in so you
wouldn't be on the street.
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- I was Gemmel's gay house mother.
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Usually we would drink and as we say,
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Kiki and carry and hang out.
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He carried a liking for my aesthetic,
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the fact that I was always
polished and put together.
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He's one boy that I
knew that honestly took
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about the same time to get ready as me.
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At one point we kind of
like all live together.
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I had an apartment, I
just never went home.
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You know, and I think that was just
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because we were kind of
like all just in love
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with each other and loving the
fact that our chosen family
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was just kind of like together
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and stuck together all the time.
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Gemmel was a home body.
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He's actually really, really funny.
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Juelz was his alter ego, quiet,
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and he talked with like a real deep voice.
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- Often within the house
and ballroom community
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individuals give their self
aliases, our other names.
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I think personally it came
from trying to keep your life
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separate, your gay life
within the community separate
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from your actual life and your family.
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Gemmel walked to school boy
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and he walked pretty boy too.
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Looked really young and didn't look like
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he was gay or anything, just
looked like a normal person.
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He was trying
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to keep his masculinity,
that was a big thing for him.
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- Don't ever put my real name on no cake.
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I don't want anybody to know my shit.
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- He will be like bro,
don't call me Gemmel.
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Like don't call me that.
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In the community he was Juelz
and nobody really knew Gemmel.
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Gemmel is the oldest
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of his brothers and sisters
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and they all looked up to him.
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Gemmel took the
role of being a big brother
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very serious, but not
only being a big brother,
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being a support to his mom.
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And his mother's a single mother.
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Gemmel was a jokester.
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He loved to cook.
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He was nurturing, he was loving.
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He was my bookee.
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I called him bookee.
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Gemmel came out to me at
17, he was 17 years old.
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He left home and I didn't
know what was going on.
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He called me and he goes, mom,
I got something to tell you.
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"I'm gay."
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And I said, I already knew.
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Okay, and what's next?
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And we all have skeleton.
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I don't judge anyone.
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She didn't
really know his life here.
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He was very compartmentalized
and very, very private.
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Even his closest friends, he kept
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his relationships separate.
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- Tim growing up, we had
a lot of similar stories.
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The laughter, the music, the family.
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Tim mother, they had a lot of kids.
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They didn't have the structure monetarily
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to be able to raise Tim.
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So they gave up Tim to some family friends
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that lived across the street.
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It was done out of love
but when you're a child
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that's not the first thing you think of
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when you find out something like that.
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Growing up black and gay
and having to suppress that
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'cause he was a super athlete.
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I've talked to his family
and they've told me,
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Tim always had greater
ambitions for himself
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and they knew that he
wasn't gonna last there.
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Through high school in
his head he always like,
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where could I go and just recreate myself.
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TMD come out to LA and
just be somebody like that.
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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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♪ Happy birthday ♪
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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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- Tim's birthday in March of 2016,
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a couple of players were there
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and I said we need to go to Paris
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and we needed to play.
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I said you, and he goes,
I'm down, I'm down.
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- We're heading into the
opening ceremonies right now.
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So I'm about to flip you around.
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- The gay games in '94 was
my very first tournament
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and I was shocked 'cause I
had never been to a gay pride,
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I had never been to a gay tournament
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or any kind of gay event.
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- One, two, three.
- Rock Dogs!
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- I got ball out.
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Tim, he came and
he played his butt off.
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- Okay, let me just tell
you what his nickname was.
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TMD, too much drama.
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That was his name on the court.
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Right here, Tim.
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Nobody's...
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- It was about basketball.
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But if you can really quickly a lot more.
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I mean, we just had so much in common.
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He loved fashion and he loved home decor.
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Tim would travel with candles, fabrics,
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and him and Walter were
the foo foo masters.
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- We'd make it look like our apartment.
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We'd bring books and stuff and flowers
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and then everybody would
always come to our room
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and it was just a lot, a lot of fun.
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- Tim and Walter played on the LA Heat.
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They would put a boombox
in the middle of the court.
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It looked like "The
Hoosiers" or something.
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- They were a train wreck for a long time.
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They truly were.
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- I don't care what they say,
we might've been that good,
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but we were LA.
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Okay.
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So when LA come to town, LA gonna show out
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and our team was very good
looking too, by the way.
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So everybody wanted to be
like us, you know what I mean,
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with our style, but it couldn't
be LA, you know.
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Even though I thought,
oh, you know, you know,
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I know everything.
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I didn't know everything.
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I knew what he wanted me to, what he felt
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comfortable sharing with me.
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- He needed to fill needs with
different people, you know,
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and he kind of kept those
people in different boxes.
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You know, he had Walter and I.
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He had his work friends.
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He had a hiking group.
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- Coming to Runyon, you know, five times,
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six times a week to go hiking,
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we would come at 5:30 in the morning.
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I'd go pick him up and
it was about the sunrise
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and just talking about
just this whole Cuisinart,
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you never knew which, what
the conversation was gonna be.
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Talking about boys, just
talking about dating
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and relationships, just
talking about school and goals.
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We both had struggled
with certain chemicals
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and partying and with
Tim, it was just about
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how we would support each other in that.
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- You know, a lot of times
Tim would get depressed.
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He would see the outside world.
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People seem to have so
much and it comes so easy
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and he was always going, why is everything
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so difficult for me?
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- He was going to school
and he had, he worked.
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He lived paycheck to paycheck.
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He was on his own.
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- Gemmel always talked about
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like, oh, I'm getting back into school.
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I'm getting back into work.
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And that, around that time he
was not doing good in life.
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He lost his job.
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Life situations happened.
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And he did not wanna really
communicate that to anybody
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because he was very big
on how people saw him.
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He saw my life
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and he knew I was an escort.
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He asked me about it
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and I kinda shunned from him 'cause I know
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the problems that came along with it.
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And so, to me being a parent,
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you don't want your kids to go
through what you went through
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so you try to like push it away.
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But sometimes pushing
it way we'll make them
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go straight for that and
that's exactly what he did.
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- I knew he was escorting.
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I ensured him to be safe and
cautious and protect himself.
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Being a black man in this
day and age, you are already,
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you know, at odds
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so be smart about it.
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And I felt like he was being
cautious for quite a while.
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I didn't know Ed Buck personally.
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I did know that it was as a client.
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- He told me about when
you first started meeting
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with Ed Buck.
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Gemmel said he had hit him
up numerous times online,
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but he never responded.
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But a friend brought him there.
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Gemmel was like, oh, you know,
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you wanna come make like $600.
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You don't have to do nothing.
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You just have to hang out and you know,
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talk to this guy and for an hour or so
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and he's gonna pay.
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Let's start at
the beginning, who is Ed Buck?
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Buck was a well-known activist.
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Originally from Arizona,
he reportedly made
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around a million dollars
selling a courier company.
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Ed Buck, a
Conservative Republican
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started the Mecham recall campaign.
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Buck is also a homosexual.
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- I mean, there may be widespread disgust
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with homosexuality in Arizona,
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but the disgust for Evan
Mecham is even stronger.
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- Black used to, first it was to be,
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they called them colored
and then they wanted
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to be called Negroes and now
they wanna be called blacks.
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And I call them whatever
they wanna be called.
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Ed Buck
championed for MLK's birthday
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because politically and
socially it looked good
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to be doing that.
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I believe that Ed Buck
created a mirror person
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for the public and for the world to see.
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When you came out as being gay,
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he got a lot of slack from
his own Republican party
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and he switched parties
and became a Democrat.
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Buck moved to West Hollywood
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back in the early 90s.
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He was a regular donor to a
variety of political campaigns,
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advocated for LGBTQ issues and once ran
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for West Hollywood City Council.
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Ed Buck, volunteer coordinator
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for the California Healthy
Pets Act and the animal rescue.
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- Getting rid of fur in
the city of West Hollywood
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was had big, you know coup for him.
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West Hollywood, California
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is the nation's first fur free city.
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- You know, I having been a resident
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of West Hollywood for a long time
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and I will tell you that I'm
so proud of my city right now.
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He's well-known
in West Hollywood.
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He was the vice president
of like the Stonewall,
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Democratic club.
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- I met Tim through.
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They had known each other
for quite a long time,
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at least 10 years.
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He worked on a couple of campaigns,
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printing out signs, calling.
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Ed Buck, well he knew powerful people.
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So Tim attached himself
a little bit to that.
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That was something that's
very attractive to him.
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I would see him out at the gym.
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But I always tell him, I
said, I don't know Tim.
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I said, I don't know something about him.
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I don't know how to explain it,
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but he just rubbed me the wrong way
328
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that I just knew this was not somebody
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that I was ever going to be friends with.
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- Gemmel, he didn't think that there was
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gonna be any foul play
initially, you know.
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As time went Ed begin
to push the boundaries
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and ask me more and more and more of him
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and in turn offer more
and more and more money.
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Around that time when he first met Ed,
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that was when he first got
introduced to shooting up meth.
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Can you put these underwear
on and just model these
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underwear for me?
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And then it began to be more
degrading and more degrading.
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What he got off on sexually,
was testing the limits.
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I mean, literally what he said
as he would shoot them up,
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your African blood can take it.
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You know, your nigger blood can take it.
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- If you wanna call us
something that is the last term
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that a lot of our ancestors
heard before they died
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for your sexual gratification,
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that lets me know your
mental state right there.
348
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:51,328
That also lets me know
how vulnerable Gemmel was.
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Around that time, I was battling the,
350
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I was battling an addiction
that nobody else knew about.
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I had got severely depressed.
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My grandmother had died.
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I was around the wrong people.
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I started doing coke which
is very big in our community.
355
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And that's some of my biggest regrets
356
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'cause I think that we both could have
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helped each other out.
358
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I feel that maybe if I would
have been able to be candid
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and transparent with
what I was going through,
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he would have felt comfortable enough
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or okay enough to tell me
what he was going through.
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- It's really, really difficult to know
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that he was doing it
because he looked at me
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and was like, okay, well,
you know, you're doing it
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and you're okay.
366
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And you know, but everything
affects people differently.
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00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:48,468
- I've genuinely been noticing
368
00:23:48,468 --> 00:23:51,597
the rapid rate of crystal meth
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and how it's affecting our community,
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especially in West
Hollywood on Santa Monica.
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And it's just so tragic
to see the kids roaming
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in the daytime.
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- Crystal meth is really dangerous.
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And it's not just any drug.
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00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:23,003
It's a drug that really
attacks your nervous system
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00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:26,298
and your physical and your
mental state of being.
377
00:24:29,343 --> 00:24:30,553
When I take meth helps me get
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into a sexual character, things
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that I will probably never say or do
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or allow to happen, I can
give a performance of my life.
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At first it's
that Superman feeling
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and you feel invincible.
383
00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:46,985
But then your body
becomes dependent on it.
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00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:52,575
You need it just to get out of bed.
385
00:24:52,575 --> 00:24:57,330
- It amplified fear,
paranoia, shame, regret.
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00:25:02,168 --> 00:25:07,173
It is so strong that diction of it.
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00:25:09,758 --> 00:25:11,635
And even when I say it like
the movie like the movie "It"
388
00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:15,598
like that clown would sit in
the sewer and lure you in.
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00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:23,605
Crystal meth destroys you.
390
00:25:39,788 --> 00:25:43,333
I believe that it is true
when you are vulnerable
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00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:47,713
and especially a lot of us men,
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00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:49,465
we don't like being vulnerable.
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00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:53,343
People sniff you out.
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00:26:00,268 --> 00:26:04,980
The only time that Tim and I
actually had a conversation
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00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:07,900
about Ed Buck, I'll never forget.
396
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:11,487
He looked right at me and he said,
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00:26:12,947 --> 00:26:14,823
don't you take your ass over there.
398
00:26:17,493 --> 00:26:19,703
And I said, I'm not going over there.
399
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:21,372
And then you know, kinda
snickered 'cause he's like shit,
400
00:26:21,372 --> 00:26:23,248
I ain't going over there.
401
00:26:24,292 --> 00:26:29,213
And Tim's phone, it was all these messages
402
00:26:29,213 --> 00:26:30,880
that he never responded to.
403
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,300
He went like this, look.
404
00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:35,010
I'm not going over there.
405
00:26:35,845 --> 00:26:37,597
When somebody can go
like this on their iPhone
406
00:26:37,597 --> 00:26:41,642
and it swipe and it rolls
like the prices right wheel.
407
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:50,275
He's like, look, I aint
trying to end up dead.
408
00:26:57,283 --> 00:27:00,535
- Gemmel and I, you know,
we started falling out.
409
00:27:00,535 --> 00:27:03,288
- He started getting skinny.
410
00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:06,500
He stopped coming around as much.
411
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:08,085
And it was just kinda like,.
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00:27:11,088 --> 00:27:12,380
This is not Gemmel.
413
00:27:12,380 --> 00:27:14,383
- I didn't sugarcoat anything with him.
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00:27:14,383 --> 00:27:15,343
I let his ass have it.
415
00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:17,928
It was like, bitch you need to fucking get
416
00:27:17,928 --> 00:27:18,763
your shit together.
417
00:27:18,763 --> 00:27:21,557
Like this is disgusting
and it's ridiculous.
418
00:27:21,557 --> 00:27:22,975
And I will be a part of your life
419
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:26,395
you know, if you want me to be here.
420
00:27:26,395 --> 00:27:31,358
But I can't be a part of
what you're doing right now,
421
00:27:31,983 --> 00:27:33,818
you know, to yourself, like I can't,
422
00:27:33,818 --> 00:27:35,528
I can't watch you go through this.
423
00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:41,827
I took his keys and I told
him that he can not stay here.
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00:27:44,872 --> 00:27:47,540
That's when he's like to
me to go stay with Ed Buck.
425
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:52,630
- I can't, I can't.
426
00:27:53,588 --> 00:27:55,633
Sorry.
427
00:28:05,142 --> 00:28:09,438
- Gemmel stated, "I pray that
I just get my life together
428
00:28:09,438 --> 00:28:10,773
and make sense.
429
00:28:10,773 --> 00:28:14,568
I help so many people, but
can't seem to help myself.
430
00:28:21,617 --> 00:28:22,993
I honestly don't know what to do.
431
00:28:22,993 --> 00:28:26,580
I become addicted to drugs
and the worst one at that.
432
00:28:28,582 --> 00:28:31,627
Ed Buck is the one to thank.
433
00:28:35,755 --> 00:28:39,300
He gave me my first injection
of crystal sick meth.
434
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:43,305
It was very painful, but
after all the troubles,
435
00:28:43,305 --> 00:28:47,643
I became addicted to the pain
in the fetish and fantasy."
436
00:28:51,313 --> 00:28:53,065
I feel like I'm reading my own story,
437
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,025
'cause this is what I was going through.
438
00:28:57,403 --> 00:28:58,445
"But slowly my brain,
439
00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:02,700
my mind and actions change.
440
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,703
I am not the same person I was born to be.
441
00:29:05,703 --> 00:29:08,413
I felt as if I sold my soul to the devil."
442
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:10,290
Oh god...
443
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:16,255
"I want to be back in God's hands."
444
00:29:16,255 --> 00:29:17,505
"I want to be healed
445
00:29:17,505 --> 00:29:20,968
from drugs, poverty, and troubles."
446
00:29:21,885 --> 00:29:25,723
- "I just hope the end
result isn't my death.
447
00:29:25,723 --> 00:29:28,933
Someone needs to save me soon.
448
00:29:28,933 --> 00:29:31,562
The only person in my corner is the person
449
00:29:31,562 --> 00:29:35,483
who turned me this way I feel right now."
450
00:29:35,483 --> 00:29:36,317
"I honestly don't care
451
00:29:36,317 --> 00:29:38,735
to live this life anymore.
452
00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:40,070
I don't wanna die.
453
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:42,113
I feel like I've done way too much
454
00:29:42,113 --> 00:29:45,158
that this lifetime allows."
455
00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:49,747
- "If it didn't hurt so
bad, I'd kill myself."
456
00:29:49,747 --> 00:29:52,792
- "But I let Ed Buck do it for now.
457
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,835
I miss my grandma."
458
00:29:59,255 --> 00:30:01,217
- I was talking to his mom.
459
00:30:01,217 --> 00:30:02,175
She was like, where is he?
460
00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,010
Like, he's not talking to me like Sammy,
461
00:30:04,010 --> 00:30:05,303
like what's going on?
462
00:30:05,303 --> 00:30:06,138
You know?
463
00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:07,430
And I just straight up told her, you know,
464
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:09,433
he's fucking addicted to drugs.
465
00:30:12,018 --> 00:30:14,020
So she came down here.
466
00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:16,232
She just got to spend time with him.
467
00:30:16,232 --> 00:30:17,483
And he just got to spend time with her
468
00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:19,400
and be his mom's baby.
469
00:30:20,528 --> 00:30:21,987
Life had beat him up.
470
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,952
He went home to be with his
mom and his grandma's there.
471
00:30:27,952 --> 00:30:28,993
He loves her.
472
00:30:31,997 --> 00:30:33,748
And I'm like, oh, he's with his family.
473
00:30:33,748 --> 00:30:35,835
I just felt like he was in a better place.
474
00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:43,592
One of the most shocking things
475
00:30:43,592 --> 00:30:48,013
I found out about meth is
like if you take a drug addict
476
00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:50,098
and every day, this drug addict shot up
477
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:53,685
underneath the train
and the train passing,
478
00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:56,480
the train passing; they
can be clean for years
479
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,480
and years and years.
480
00:30:58,815 --> 00:31:02,485
Just the memory of a train passing,
481
00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:07,115
literally their body will
release those endorphins.
482
00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:09,785
and you will instantly feel that high.
483
00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:17,750
Although Gemmel had been
sober and clean for a while,
484
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:22,505
he had gotten any of
the tools to understand
485
00:31:22,505 --> 00:31:26,927
like what this had done to his mind.
486
00:31:39,732 --> 00:31:43,068
- The weekend of July 27th, I woke up
487
00:31:43,068 --> 00:31:45,028
at like the early in the morning.
488
00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:46,613
My partner was in the
bed looking on his phone.
489
00:31:46,613 --> 00:31:48,865
And he said, have you talked to anybody?
490
00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,700
And I said, no, why?
491
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,913
And he said, I think Gemmel is dead.
492
00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:55,413
And I'm like, what?
493
00:31:55,413 --> 00:31:56,540
Get outta here.
494
00:31:58,918 --> 00:32:00,293
We started checking social media.
495
00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:02,128
I started reaching out
to some of my friends
496
00:32:02,128 --> 00:32:05,633
and right away, I thought
about Gemmel's mom
497
00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:08,010
'cause I knew how much he loved his mom.
498
00:32:08,010 --> 00:32:10,638
And I knew how much she loved him.
499
00:32:10,638 --> 00:32:13,015
So I hurried up and sent her a message
500
00:32:13,015 --> 00:32:16,268
and she responded that she loved me
501
00:32:16,268 --> 00:32:18,853
and that's what was my
confirmation that, yeah.
502
00:32:23,067 --> 00:32:23,858
When he died,
503
00:32:23,858 --> 00:32:25,860
I didn't know that they
were talking about my Juelz.
504
00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:27,237
I thought they were talking
about some guy named Gemmel
505
00:32:27,237 --> 00:32:29,573
who I didn't know who he was.
506
00:32:29,573 --> 00:32:32,200
- I just, I didn't even know he was here.
507
00:32:35,078 --> 00:32:36,663
Yeah, I didn't even know he was here.
508
00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:41,418
- I knew it was true and I
just didn't know what happened.
509
00:32:41,418 --> 00:32:44,380
There was like a thousand stories.
510
00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:47,257
- I didn't know about Ed
Buck paying for the flight
511
00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:49,677
or Ed Buck being involved at all.
512
00:32:54,348 --> 00:32:55,808
- My name is LaTisha Nixon.
513
00:32:55,808 --> 00:32:57,810
I'm Gemmel Moore's mom.
514
00:32:57,810 --> 00:33:00,770
I'm calling out the West
Hollywood Sheriff's Department
515
00:33:00,770 --> 00:33:03,857
to please launch a thorough investigation
516
00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:08,403
into the supposedly
accidental death of my son.
517
00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:12,115
I'm wondering why wasn't
Ed Buck held accountable
518
00:33:12,115 --> 00:33:15,160
for the California Drug
Dealer Liability Act.
519
00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:27,840
- There was a 911 call that
somebody was in distress,
520
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,968
911 arrived and that person was deceased.
521
00:33:32,135 --> 00:33:35,680
And 911 decided to just take
that body out of the home
522
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,433
and go on as business as usual.
523
00:34:24,188 --> 00:34:26,023
- The sheer quantity of drugs,
524
00:34:26,023 --> 00:34:28,483
I mean, everywhere, like a shrine.
525
00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:38,618
- Had one sheriff that
night did their full job
526
00:34:39,203 --> 00:34:40,995
and picked up that backpack,
527
00:34:40,995 --> 00:34:44,792
opened that backpack and
just looked at the first page
528
00:34:44,792 --> 00:34:45,625
of his journal.
529
00:34:45,625 --> 00:34:46,918
You didn't have to look through it.
530
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,128
You didn't even have to
open it because it's already
531
00:34:48,128 --> 00:34:49,505
open to that page.
532
00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:20,910
Nixon said
she was flabbergasted
533
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:24,163
when she saw the surveillance
images Fox 11 obtained
534
00:35:24,163 --> 00:35:26,583
exclusively from Buck's apartment building
535
00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:28,710
the night her son was found dead.
536
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:31,170
They allegedly show
another young man trying
537
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:33,298
to get up to Bucks
apartment while deputies
538
00:35:33,298 --> 00:35:36,510
were still on scene
before he's shooed away.
539
00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:39,388
- So when they were taking
Gemmel's body out of the house,
540
00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:44,017
the police was forcing the
next victim to not come in.
541
00:35:45,143 --> 00:35:49,022
And to me, that might, if that I, to me,
542
00:35:49,022 --> 00:35:50,773
the police should have question that.
543
00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:52,733
- Thank God, for the apartment manager
544
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:54,360
'cause he put out the video,
545
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,780
showing the police standing
there talking with Ed Buck
546
00:35:56,780 --> 00:35:58,282
for hours.
547
00:35:58,282 --> 00:36:02,452
He was never put in
handcuffs, nothing was done.
548
00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:05,538
- I'm calling on the leaders.
549
00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:07,958
I'm calling on anybody who will listen.
550
00:36:07,958 --> 00:36:10,252
You know, it seems like
everyone's turning a blind eye
551
00:36:10,252 --> 00:36:13,672
because my son was a gay black man.
552
00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:18,260
- This fight, I didn't
think it was worth it
553
00:36:18,260 --> 00:36:21,388
'cause as a gay black
man, I had already felt
554
00:36:21,388 --> 00:36:24,600
that nobody cared about what was going on.
555
00:36:38,530 --> 00:36:40,115
- Disturbing story out of California.
556
00:36:40,115 --> 00:36:42,158
Joining us from Skype is
Los Angeles journalist
557
00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:43,702
Jasmyne Cannick.
558
00:36:43,702 --> 00:36:46,622
Jasmyne, are you concerned at
how police are investigating
559
00:36:46,622 --> 00:36:49,917
what took place at this home of Ed Buck?
560
00:36:49,917 --> 00:36:52,668
- We're all concerned because you know,
561
00:36:52,668 --> 00:36:55,088
as I've been telling
people only a white man
562
00:36:55,088 --> 00:36:57,007
could have a dead black body in his house
563
00:36:57,007 --> 00:36:59,092
and explain it away to the police,
564
00:36:59,092 --> 00:37:01,385
have them say, okay, nothing to see here,
565
00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:04,180
pack it up, let's take
the body and move along.
566
00:37:07,433 --> 00:37:08,977
- Jasmyne Cannick.
- Jasmyne Cannick.
567
00:37:08,977 --> 00:37:10,103
- Jasmyne Cannick.
568
00:37:10,103 --> 00:37:12,480
- Jasmyne Cannick,
journalist and activist.
569
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,023
Social and
political commentator,
570
00:37:14,023 --> 00:37:14,900
Jasmyne Cannick.
571
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:17,277
From Los
Angeles, Jasmyne Cannick.
572
00:37:17,277 --> 00:37:19,655
a syndicated columnist and a lesbian.
573
00:37:19,655 --> 00:37:24,368
- Jasmyne grew up as a black lesbian woman
574
00:37:24,368 --> 00:37:27,495
in a time when West
Hollywood was just racist.
575
00:37:27,495 --> 00:37:29,623
- I'm African American, I'm also a lesbian.
576
00:37:29,623 --> 00:37:33,835
And quite frankly, the
campaign against propositioning
577
00:37:33,835 --> 00:37:35,295
was poorly run.
578
00:37:39,173 --> 00:37:41,927
- Black LGBT people had
to create their own clubs
579
00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:45,305
in undesirable areas, in warehouses.
580
00:37:45,305 --> 00:37:47,140
That's how Black Pride came about
581
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:49,600
because we could not go party out there.
582
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,603
And she grew up in the trenches of that
583
00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,688
and she understood what
it was to have to fight
584
00:37:53,688 --> 00:37:55,898
through those hurdles and
fight through those barriers.
585
00:37:55,898 --> 00:37:57,317
And now she looks at our generation
586
00:37:57,317 --> 00:38:00,153
and she wants to make
sure that we have somebody
587
00:38:00,153 --> 00:38:02,613
that's gonna teach us how to
push through these barriers.
588
00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:04,573
- If the roles had been reversed
589
00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:07,618
and Ed Buck had died and Gemmel had lived,
590
00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:09,620
Gemmel would have been in jail.
591
00:38:09,620 --> 00:38:13,000
- She was able to get the
point across, you know,
592
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,127
and I think that's where
she were very instrumental
593
00:38:15,127 --> 00:38:16,460
because to me, she went out there,
594
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:19,172
she did the interviews and
she kept the word out there
595
00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:20,590
about this injustice.
596
00:38:20,590 --> 00:38:23,968
- You have to get in these
the elected officials faces
597
00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:26,763
and you have to make them
uncomfortable in their spaces.
598
00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:27,597
Okay?
599
00:38:27,597 --> 00:38:30,142
- If they don't care, make them care.
600
00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:32,393
That's just been her
attitude from day one.
601
00:38:32,393 --> 00:38:34,103
And after that we said
that we wasn't gonna
602
00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:35,397
let this go away.
603
00:38:35,397 --> 00:38:36,982
So Jasmyne started telling the story
604
00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:39,025
and I started doing the street work.
605
00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:41,820
How do you move on without your son?
606
00:38:41,820 --> 00:38:44,698
I started organizing and I
started getting folks together.
607
00:38:44,698 --> 00:38:46,950
I started making noise in
rooms that they didn't want
608
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:48,618
noise to be made in.
609
00:38:48,618 --> 00:38:50,662
No black question...
610
00:38:50,662 --> 00:38:52,830
We were was harassing Ed Buck.
611
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,167
That's Ed Buck right there.
612
00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:57,335
Excuse me, you're his neighbor.
613
00:38:57,335 --> 00:39:00,088
You know this man is a sexual deviant.
614
00:39:00,088 --> 00:39:03,425
Ed Buck you are a sexual predator.
615
00:39:03,425 --> 00:39:05,385
Gemmel Moore's live matters!
616
00:39:05,385 --> 00:39:08,347
Anything to make people listen.
617
00:39:08,347 --> 00:39:10,890
And people started listening.
618
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:17,397
- When deputies got there,
it appeared that he was,
619
00:39:17,397 --> 00:39:19,148
had died of an overdose.
620
00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:22,193
The coroner's office additionally stated
621
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:23,570
that it was deemed as an overdose.
622
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:26,530
So in an abundance of
caution, Homicide Bureau
623
00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:28,783
is doing a further investigation on it.
624
00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:32,037
As far as suspects, as
far as who is involved,
625
00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:33,080
that part, I don't know.
626
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,373
So the only
thing that's changed
627
00:39:34,373 --> 00:39:36,208
is the attention that this case is getting
628
00:39:36,208 --> 00:39:37,667
toward this further investigation?
629
00:39:37,667 --> 00:39:38,502
- Yes.
630
00:39:50,888 --> 00:39:55,310
- When Gemmel died, Timothy
explained a lot up here
631
00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:57,145
on the hill where we would hike about
632
00:39:57,145 --> 00:39:59,563
his involvement through the years.
633
00:39:59,563 --> 00:40:01,690
The temptation of all the
money that he would offer
634
00:40:01,690 --> 00:40:03,902
just to go and get high with him.
635
00:40:05,403 --> 00:40:09,490
He was trying to distance
himself from those situations.
636
00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:10,908
- We had many conversations about it.
637
00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:15,205
He felt like he could handle himself
638
00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:17,915
and whatever crazy situation went down.
639
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:22,712
But the young man he felt
was taken advantage of.
640
00:40:23,630 --> 00:40:26,508
He said Walter, Ed Buck is the devil.
641
00:40:26,508 --> 00:40:27,968
- He thought he was the devil.
642
00:40:27,968 --> 00:40:29,052
- A monster.
643
00:40:29,052 --> 00:40:31,178
- He's going to hell, Walter.
644
00:40:31,178 --> 00:40:35,267
But to the police, nah, I said something.
645
00:40:35,267 --> 00:40:37,560
He was never gonna do that.
646
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,562
We scared of the police.
647
00:40:38,562 --> 00:40:39,813
We don't want to be, they might think
648
00:40:39,813 --> 00:40:41,440
we're coming in for the
wrong damn reason okay?
649
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,190
We're not going to the police.
650
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:44,900
- When do we want it?
- Now!
651
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,485
- What do want?
- Justice!
652
00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:48,280
- When do we want it?
- Now!
653
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,198
- We would love to see an investigation.
654
00:40:50,198 --> 00:40:51,908
And once that investigation is concluded,
655
00:40:51,908 --> 00:40:53,535
we would love to see justice brought.
656
00:40:53,535 --> 00:40:55,662
- Ed Buck was in a lot of trouble.
657
00:40:55,662 --> 00:40:57,830
He was being brought to the City Council
658
00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:00,833
at West Hollywood and his
behavior was being questioned.
659
00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:05,755
And so Ed was calling
Tim to vouch for him.
660
00:41:05,755 --> 00:41:08,340
And I'm like, girl, you can't, you can't.
661
00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:10,385
This is wrong what he's asking you.
662
00:41:11,635 --> 00:41:16,640
- Ed Buck is a harmful
threat to our community,
663
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,313
to black men and he needs
to be brought to justice.
664
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:26,150
There's nothing stopping
you with those allegations
665
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:29,445
for asking for a federal investigation.
666
00:41:29,445 --> 00:41:32,448
If Jackie Lacey doesn't wanna
deal with it and talk about,
667
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:34,367
go to a federal prosecutor.
668
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:36,495
They're right there, Hall of Justice,
669
00:41:36,495 --> 00:41:38,038
you ain't got to take a far trip.
670
00:41:38,038 --> 00:41:39,330
I'll pay your gas money.
671
00:41:40,873 --> 00:41:42,167
Thank you.
672
00:41:42,167 --> 00:41:47,088
- We have a lot of victims
who have came forward.
673
00:41:47,088 --> 00:41:49,548
We have more information,
674
00:41:51,843 --> 00:41:54,553
but we need immunity for these people
675
00:41:54,553 --> 00:41:59,183
because some of the
charges by them testifying
676
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:02,812
they can be felonies.
677
00:42:02,812 --> 00:42:04,688
I'm asking for justice for my son,
678
00:42:04,688 --> 00:42:08,777
regardless to the fact of
whatever he did or you know,
679
00:42:08,777 --> 00:42:11,820
the meth or whatever, he still was my son,
680
00:42:11,820 --> 00:42:13,448
he still was a person.
681
00:42:13,448 --> 00:42:15,283
You know, that's all I'm asking for.
682
00:42:16,283 --> 00:42:17,118
Thank you very much.
683
00:42:17,118 --> 00:42:18,703
And thank you for coming tonight.
684
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,962
- I'm sorry.
685
00:42:30,340 --> 00:42:32,800
I wasn't gonna speak on this tonight,
686
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,635
but I have to now add something
687
00:42:34,635 --> 00:42:37,347
being a criminal defense lawyer.
688
00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:41,518
Before anybody speaks to
the Sheriff's Department,
689
00:42:41,518 --> 00:42:43,562
you need to be aware that
the Sheriff's Department
690
00:42:43,562 --> 00:42:46,188
does not grant immunity.
691
00:42:46,188 --> 00:42:50,443
The West Hollywood City Council
does not grant immunity.
692
00:42:50,443 --> 00:42:52,528
The only agency that grants immunity
693
00:42:52,528 --> 00:42:55,698
to a witness is the
district attorney's office.
694
00:42:58,660 --> 00:43:03,373
- The former Mayor John Duran
was Ed Buck's personal lawyer
695
00:43:03,373 --> 00:43:07,960
and he used the City Council chambers,
696
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,715
the seat that we pay for to
basically threaten witnesses,
697
00:43:11,715 --> 00:43:13,967
tell them be careful, don't go and telling
698
00:43:13,967 --> 00:43:16,010
the police nothing 'cause
you can go to jail.
699
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:19,305
- Our Homicide Bureau is
investigating this case thoroughly,
700
00:43:19,305 --> 00:43:22,142
but however, they can't move forward
701
00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:24,143
without witnesses coming forward
702
00:43:24,143 --> 00:43:26,062
and giving them information.
703
00:43:27,647 --> 00:43:30,317
Before you
do anything, transparency
704
00:43:30,317 --> 00:43:34,403
doesn't always work with
the criminal justice system.
705
00:43:34,403 --> 00:43:37,490
Transparency can subject
you to criminal arrest
706
00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:38,742
and prosecution.
707
00:43:38,742 --> 00:43:40,702
Ed Buck's
attorney tells NBC 4 tonight,
708
00:43:40,702 --> 00:43:43,580
"The public has got to
stop buying into this
709
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:44,998
and demand evidence.
710
00:43:44,998 --> 00:43:47,208
If you've got something,
bring it forward."
711
00:43:49,252 --> 00:43:50,253
- I've been to these,
712
00:43:50,253 --> 00:43:53,590
you know drug houses, flop
houses, what trap houses,
713
00:43:53,590 --> 00:43:55,425
looking for victims of Ed Buck
714
00:43:55,425 --> 00:43:57,343
and so many of them are out there.
715
00:43:57,343 --> 00:44:00,972
You have no idea how many
boys are scared of this man.
716
00:44:03,390 --> 00:44:04,768
When Jasmyne first spoke with me
717
00:44:04,768 --> 00:44:07,978
I told her that I could get the full story
718
00:44:07,978 --> 00:44:09,773
and I can find other people.
719
00:44:09,773 --> 00:44:11,565
I know that he's done
this to other people.
720
00:44:29,918 --> 00:44:34,088
Ed Buck has a lot of victims.
721
00:44:34,088 --> 00:44:36,800
I cannot even tell you how
many people we've talked to
722
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,052
about their interactions with Ed Buck.
723
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:44,348
- Just photos, video,
people taking pictures
724
00:44:44,348 --> 00:44:45,642
of all his stuff.
725
00:44:47,602 --> 00:44:49,145
I mean, it's all there to see.
726
00:45:05,035 --> 00:45:08,163
So you can't send me an Uber?
727
00:45:08,163 --> 00:45:09,415
No, actually.
728
00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:14,587
I was thinking you spend
two hours to get here.
729
00:45:14,587 --> 00:45:18,590
You said, "Do another point."
730
00:45:18,590 --> 00:45:20,510
You didn't say that?
731
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:21,635
No?
732
00:45:21,635 --> 00:45:23,595
You didn't say that?
733
00:45:23,595 --> 00:45:25,432
You made the point so you didn't say that?
734
00:45:25,432 --> 00:45:26,265
No.
735
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,310
Honestly, be
honest with me please.
736
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:33,398
You didn't say, let's do another point?
737
00:45:33,398 --> 00:45:34,523
No.
738
00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:36,443
Yeah, you wanna see it?
739
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:46,745
- I've had to do so much.
740
00:45:46,745 --> 00:45:50,457
I had to make a fake profile
on one of the dating websites
741
00:45:50,457 --> 00:45:51,583
so I can track him.
742
00:45:51,583 --> 00:45:53,375
I mean, these are the things
you go through, right,
743
00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:55,545
you know when you're really, you know, I.
744
00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:57,630
You know, I feel like I
need to be on the payroll
745
00:45:57,630 --> 00:45:59,048
at the Sheriff's Department.
746
00:46:05,263 --> 00:46:06,555
- I liked N words.
747
00:46:06,555 --> 00:46:08,767
I like party and play.
748
00:46:08,767 --> 00:46:12,187
Party and play it's a term to use drugs.
749
00:46:12,187 --> 00:46:15,523
No other, we're not going to
party and play on the swings.
750
00:46:15,523 --> 00:46:19,735
No, party and play is a term,
underground term for drug.
751
00:46:21,988 --> 00:46:23,823
And we reported some of his pages.
752
00:46:23,823 --> 00:46:26,325
Those pages are still up
and standing to this day.
753
00:46:30,538 --> 00:46:32,248
We are waiting
for the Sheriff's Department
754
00:46:32,248 --> 00:46:36,628
to build a case that the DA's
office can move forward on.
755
00:46:36,628 --> 00:46:38,338
So we're in this holding pattern.
756
00:47:01,820 --> 00:47:04,738
- Ed buck was weird as
hell, to tell you the truth.
757
00:47:04,738 --> 00:47:07,075
Well, first of all,
he's used to be so high
758
00:47:07,075 --> 00:47:09,410
and stoned out that he
was just throwing money.
759
00:47:09,410 --> 00:47:10,245
He was throwing money left and right.
760
00:47:10,245 --> 00:47:11,788
He was like, here, get this or do this.
761
00:47:11,788 --> 00:47:14,207
And it was easy money at the time.
762
00:47:14,207 --> 00:47:15,792
It was like, okay, do
I need any pocket money
763
00:47:15,792 --> 00:47:19,003
to rent a car or whatever
I needed to do at the time.
764
00:47:19,003 --> 00:47:21,338
And it was just me
running an errand for him.
765
00:47:21,338 --> 00:47:24,675
Like, go get this or pick
up some and that was that,
766
00:47:24,675 --> 00:47:25,510
you know.
767
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:26,678
- When I first met him, I didn't get high.
768
00:47:26,678 --> 00:47:31,683
I wasn't dibbling and dabbling
in that drug at that time.
769
00:47:32,225 --> 00:47:34,853
But then the second time I came back,
770
00:47:34,853 --> 00:47:37,897
is when the first time
I got high off of meth.
771
00:47:39,690 --> 00:47:42,443
The day I went there, it
was like a couple of days
772
00:47:42,443 --> 00:47:43,360
after my birthday.
773
00:47:47,573 --> 00:47:50,075
I was broke, completely
broke, sad and depressed.
774
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:53,413
So he hit me up like randomly
and it was like right on time.
775
00:47:53,413 --> 00:47:54,955
So I said I'll come over.
776
00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:57,165
And he was like, yeah, are
you gonna get high this time?
777
00:47:57,165 --> 00:47:58,835
And I said, yeah, of course
I'm gonna get high this time.
778
00:47:58,835 --> 00:48:00,003
Like it's whatever you want.
779
00:48:00,003 --> 00:48:02,213
Like, I'll do whatever you
need me to do right now
780
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:03,505
because I need this money.
781
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:06,467
I went there on a mission so I knew
782
00:48:06,467 --> 00:48:08,468
what I was doing before I got into it.
783
00:48:08,468 --> 00:48:09,262
I thought I did.
784
00:48:16,477 --> 00:48:17,270
The first time I walked into the apartment
785
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:19,647
I thought I was walking into a maze.
786
00:48:19,647 --> 00:48:23,650
Long dark hallway, neon lights.
787
00:48:23,650 --> 00:48:25,235
As soon as you close the
door right behind the door,
788
00:48:25,235 --> 00:48:27,863
it's like flames on the side,
popping up right at you.
789
00:48:27,863 --> 00:48:29,157
It's like 3D or something.
790
00:48:30,158 --> 00:48:34,245
There's a big TV, probably
about 10 foot in height
791
00:48:34,245 --> 00:48:35,955
and mirrors shadowing over you.
792
00:48:35,955 --> 00:48:39,208
And they're like all over the wall.
793
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:44,338
There were three or
four crates that he had
794
00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:47,758
with like different types of
jock straps, underwear, thongs.
795
00:48:50,637 --> 00:48:51,763
Piles and piles of underwear.
796
00:48:51,763 --> 00:48:53,765
I mean, like 200-300 pairs of underwear.
797
00:48:53,765 --> 00:48:56,350
And it was also a fog machine.
798
00:48:58,268 --> 00:48:59,228
There was a red toolbox
799
00:48:59,228 --> 00:49:01,980
that he kept his drug paraphernalia.
800
00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:06,193
He had Viagra, Cialis, needles, meth, coke...
801
00:49:06,193 --> 00:49:07,028
Whips, dildos, they had
802
00:49:07,028 --> 00:49:08,780
all kinds of weird shit in it.
803
00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:11,990
And he kept it in a closet.
804
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:13,575
And the closet, you
didn't know it was there.
805
00:49:13,575 --> 00:49:15,620
It was a hidden behind a curtain.
806
00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:17,580
The curtain that would look like flames.
807
00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:22,293
I guess he kind of went
to remind you of hell.
808
00:49:24,753 --> 00:49:25,838
- He looks like the devil.
809
00:49:25,838 --> 00:49:28,298
Like he starts to look like evil
810
00:49:28,298 --> 00:49:30,343
once you look at him for so long.
811
00:49:34,847 --> 00:49:39,768
He asked, did I want to do some F now?
812
00:49:39,768 --> 00:49:41,312
And I'm like, yeah, I'll do it.
813
00:49:43,147 --> 00:49:44,732
He blew it in my mouth,
he just kept on blowing
814
00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:45,565
and blowing and blowing.
815
00:49:45,565 --> 00:49:47,318
He wanted me to get higher and higher.
816
00:49:49,445 --> 00:49:51,197
I was high and I wasn't
trying to let it get to me,
817
00:49:51,197 --> 00:49:54,033
but it was kinda getting to me.
818
00:49:59,247 --> 00:50:01,582
He asked me that I want
to shot like in my penis
819
00:50:01,582 --> 00:50:03,500
to get my dick, for my dick to stay hard
820
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:06,087
because I did so much cocaine and the meth
821
00:50:06,087 --> 00:50:08,630
it's like, I guess it's
not interacting right
822
00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:13,177
or reacting right on me, so he shot me.
823
00:50:15,138 --> 00:50:16,347
He wanted me to come in the room
824
00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:18,433
and I wasn't trying to come
in the room and do my drugs.
825
00:50:18,433 --> 00:50:20,768
And he was mad at me
because I wasn't trying
826
00:50:20,768 --> 00:50:23,478
to do what he wanted me to do, I guess.
827
00:50:23,478 --> 00:50:24,730
He kicked me out, I left.
828
00:50:25,690 --> 00:50:27,900
And I come back home, the
next morning I wake up,
829
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:29,235
my dick is hard as rock.
830
00:50:32,488 --> 00:50:33,655
Had to get surgery.
831
00:50:35,283 --> 00:50:39,787
They had to scrape the
blood because it was dry.
832
00:50:41,538 --> 00:50:44,583
One of the worst feeling in my
life, worst pain in my life.
833
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,880
After me going to the hospital,
834
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,380
I haven't seen him ever again.
835
00:50:59,098 --> 00:51:00,390
- There are many Ed Bucks.
836
00:51:02,977 --> 00:51:03,810
There are many.
837
00:51:06,938 --> 00:51:08,900
It's just that his name
happened to be attached,
838
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:11,568
to being a Democratic donor.
839
00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:12,987
- Political donor-
- High profile
840
00:51:12,987 --> 00:51:14,905
political donor.
- The prominent
841
00:51:14,905 --> 00:51:16,115
political donor.
- Well-known
842
00:51:16,115 --> 00:51:18,325
political activist.
- Ed Buick,
843
00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:22,370
Buck excuse me, a high
profile Democratic donor.
844
00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:24,998
- It was always about
this thing about Ed Buck,
845
00:51:24,998 --> 00:51:27,210
the big Democratic donor.
846
00:51:27,210 --> 00:51:30,338
You know, that queen lived in
a rent controlled apartment
847
00:51:30,338 --> 00:51:32,840
in West, how rich could she be?
848
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,718
- He is supposedly a millionaire
who donates thousands
849
00:51:35,718 --> 00:51:38,720
of dollars to the Democratic
Party and certain candidates.
850
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,182
And yet he lives in a
very modest apartment unit
851
00:51:41,182 --> 00:51:42,517
right here in West Hollywood.
852
00:51:42,517 --> 00:51:45,143
No fancy car, no exotic vacations,
853
00:51:45,143 --> 00:51:49,065
just a A list of political
contacts, if you will.
854
00:51:52,235 --> 00:51:54,945
- We did a deep dive into those records,
855
00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:56,447
found out a lot of information.
856
00:51:56,447 --> 00:51:58,323
Buck has definitely spread the wealth.
857
00:51:58,323 --> 00:52:00,408
He has given more
than half a million dollars
858
00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:02,787
to various candidates.
859
00:52:02,787 --> 00:52:05,623
Notable Democrats like
Congress member Ted Lieu.
860
00:52:10,545 --> 00:52:12,672
- The maximum contribution
that a donor gives
861
00:52:12,672 --> 00:52:15,007
in West Hollywood is $500 an election.
862
00:52:15,007 --> 00:52:18,385
I mean, seriously for
$500 this is not something
863
00:52:18,385 --> 00:52:19,637
that I'm going to get involved in
864
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:23,098
for a $500 contribution
once every four years.
865
00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:24,558
That's the facts.
866
00:52:24,558 --> 00:52:28,020
John Duran
received $12,500 from buck
867
00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:30,730
in various campaigns
without offering specifics.
868
00:52:30,730 --> 00:52:32,775
Duran said most of the money was spent
869
00:52:32,775 --> 00:52:35,820
and some was donated to charity.
870
00:52:35,820 --> 00:52:37,445
- To me,
871
00:52:37,445 --> 00:52:38,613
that's is all bullshit anyway.
872
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:41,200
I'm sorry, oh, I'll
give you the money back.
873
00:52:43,285 --> 00:52:44,787
What's your opinion about it?
874
00:52:44,787 --> 00:52:47,540
- And full disclosure I have
not received contributions
875
00:52:47,540 --> 00:52:50,168
from that individual,
but I wanna state clearly
876
00:52:50,168 --> 00:52:52,587
that it shouldn't matter who the subject
877
00:52:52,587 --> 00:52:54,213
of an investigation is.
878
00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:56,382
An investigation must
be conducted thoroughly
879
00:52:56,382 --> 00:52:58,258
and without prejudice.
880
00:53:04,807 --> 00:53:06,517
- Having a statement to say about it,
881
00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:09,353
the actual thing that you're
giving the money back for,
882
00:53:09,353 --> 00:53:11,938
taking a stand on that and
what you think should happen.
883
00:53:27,078 --> 00:53:29,207
- For $2,000 really?
884
00:53:29,207 --> 00:53:31,208
- Not for a thousand dollars.
885
00:53:31,208 --> 00:53:32,043
No.
886
00:53:33,127 --> 00:53:36,172
I think the system protected Ed Buck.
887
00:53:36,172 --> 00:53:40,133
It gives him more chances
than other people.
888
00:53:40,133 --> 00:53:43,930
- We did not ask for a million dollars.
889
00:53:43,930 --> 00:53:47,600
We didn't ask for them to go flip
890
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,018
West Hollywood upside down.
891
00:53:49,018 --> 00:53:51,645
We asked for an investigation.
892
00:53:53,022 --> 00:53:54,523
The District
Attorney Jackie Lacey
893
00:53:54,523 --> 00:53:56,567
is offering immunity to potential victims
894
00:53:56,567 --> 00:53:58,903
of Democratic mega donor Ed Buck.
895
00:54:04,408 --> 00:54:06,160
Very
grateful that these young men
896
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:07,745
have started coming forward.
897
00:54:07,745 --> 00:54:10,498
And so right now in Los
Angeles they're currently
898
00:54:10,498 --> 00:54:12,750
in the middle of this
homicide investigation
899
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:14,793
and we're gonna see what comes out of it.
900
00:54:17,838 --> 00:54:20,298
- The DA just ruled no
charges will be filed.
901
00:54:20,298 --> 00:54:23,468
CBS 2's Tom Wade is live
in West Hollywood tonight
902
00:54:23,468 --> 00:54:24,262
with more of the story.
903
00:54:24,262 --> 00:54:25,680
Tom.
- And Jeff,
904
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,348
the family of this young
man says he did not get
905
00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:31,477
a fair shake because he
was both black and gay.
906
00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:34,105
But the DA's office and the
Sheriff's Department say
907
00:54:34,105 --> 00:54:37,148
there was a thorough investigation.
908
00:54:37,148 --> 00:54:40,945
- For her to do that it was
like a slap in the face.
909
00:54:40,945 --> 00:54:44,240
- A few people came forward and said, Hey,
910
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:47,158
this happened to me back in 2013.
911
00:54:47,158 --> 00:54:50,830
And when you get a witness
like that, that's helpful
912
00:54:50,830 --> 00:54:55,250
If you can corroborate their credibility.
913
00:54:55,250 --> 00:54:57,920
- You took one or two
statements out of the 30.
914
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,630
And the ones that they
took a statement from
915
00:55:00,630 --> 00:55:02,590
these were people that were also
916
00:55:02,590 --> 00:55:05,635
had more extensive criminal records.
917
00:55:05,635 --> 00:55:10,433
- Imma be the first to tell
you, I'm never gonna get tired.
918
00:55:10,433 --> 00:55:12,350
You're gonna get tired of fighting me
919
00:55:12,350 --> 00:55:14,895
until Ed Buck is brought to justice.
920
00:55:14,895 --> 00:55:17,315
I'm gonna show up at every campaign,
921
00:55:17,315 --> 00:55:19,775
I'm gonna show up at every rally.
922
00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:22,737
I'm gonna show up at
every sheriff department.
923
00:55:22,737 --> 00:55:26,782
I'm gonna make sure that
everything you do is tampered with
924
00:55:26,782 --> 00:55:29,493
just like this investigation
was tampered with
925
00:55:29,493 --> 00:55:31,453
because I am Gemmel.
926
00:55:31,453 --> 00:55:33,413
So while you're waiting, I'm waiting until
927
00:55:33,413 --> 00:55:35,458
it's time for you to be reelected.
928
00:55:36,625 --> 00:55:38,252
♪ We won't stop till he's in prison ♪
929
00:55:38,252 --> 00:55:39,962
♪ We won't stop till he's in prison ♪
930
00:55:39,962 --> 00:55:42,298
♪ We won't stop till he's in prison ♪
931
00:55:42,298 --> 00:55:44,758
♪ So police arrest him ♪
932
00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:46,968
♪ We wish Ed Buck was in prison ♪
933
00:55:46,968 --> 00:55:49,388
♪ We wish Ed Buck was in prison ♪
934
00:55:49,388 --> 00:55:54,393
♪ We wish Ed Buck was in prison ♪
935
00:55:54,727 --> 00:55:57,813
♪ For 25 to life ♪
936
00:55:57,813 --> 00:55:58,647
- Yeah!
937
00:56:10,242 --> 00:56:14,080
- For five years, two
weeks before Christmas,
938
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,790
we would go get his Christmas tree.
939
00:56:18,750 --> 00:56:20,378
We would go to the lot.
940
00:56:20,378 --> 00:56:23,838
He knew exactly which tree
because he had already chosen it.
941
00:56:23,838 --> 00:56:25,590
It had to be perfect.
942
00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:27,468
And then off to go get Thai food.
943
00:56:29,387 --> 00:56:31,513
- We had just went to Alex's on Christmas.
944
00:56:31,513 --> 00:56:33,348
We had a great time.
945
00:56:34,892 --> 00:56:37,435
And then as is customary with both of us,
946
00:56:37,435 --> 00:56:39,605
we started planning for the new year.
947
00:56:39,605 --> 00:56:41,440
You have your aspirations.
948
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,025
What's gonna be different?
949
00:56:44,485 --> 00:56:47,405
- I believe that even with Timothy
950
00:56:47,405 --> 00:56:52,283
surrounded by all these
people that loved him so much
951
00:56:52,283 --> 00:56:54,245
that I think truly what he wanted
952
00:56:54,245 --> 00:56:55,830
was to be in relationship.
953
00:56:55,830 --> 00:57:00,750
- He always wanted a boyfriend,
but as soon as he got one,
954
00:57:00,750 --> 00:57:02,420
they would drive him crazy.
955
00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:03,628
And he was like,.
956
00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:06,507
- Like, why did y'all break up so fast?
957
00:57:06,507 --> 00:57:07,340
What happened?
958
00:57:10,093 --> 00:57:13,305
But finally he started getting
a little bit more, you know,
959
00:57:13,305 --> 00:57:15,640
like I got this now.
960
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:16,892
Don't worry about what I don't got,
961
00:57:16,892 --> 00:57:19,478
worry about what I do have.
962
00:57:19,478 --> 00:57:21,063
And what he had was himself.
963
00:57:25,317 --> 00:57:27,403
Lets give a round
of cheers for our graduates!
964
00:57:30,405 --> 00:57:33,742
- He finally graduated
which he was so proud of.
965
00:57:33,742 --> 00:57:35,828
When he finally sent me the thing,
966
00:57:35,828 --> 00:57:37,328
"Girl, I'm graduating.
967
00:57:37,328 --> 00:57:38,873
You got to come to my graduation."
968
00:57:38,873 --> 00:57:41,040
You know, of course I'm gonna be there.
969
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,333
Timothy Dean, liberal arts,
970
00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:44,335
social and behavioral science.
971
00:57:44,335 --> 00:57:48,465
We were way in the stands and
you could just see the joy.
972
00:57:50,383 --> 00:57:54,013
- He got to baptized, that empowered him.
973
00:57:54,013 --> 00:57:56,265
He was like, girl, I'm gonna get baptized.
974
00:57:56,265 --> 00:57:57,975
I was like, right on.
975
00:57:57,975 --> 00:57:58,808
Why not?
976
00:57:58,808 --> 00:57:59,852
You know, okay.
977
00:57:59,852 --> 00:58:03,355
He got a break and he
got hired at Bloomingdale's.
978
00:58:03,355 --> 00:58:05,315
He excelled right away.
979
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:08,235
Someone from Saks Fifth
Avenue came up to him
980
00:58:08,235 --> 00:58:10,570
and basically kinda poached him.
981
00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:13,573
He was really excited 'cause
he was back in Beverly Hills.
982
00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:16,452
For him he was putting
all the pieces together.
983
00:58:26,045 --> 00:58:28,005
He had been
at a sports bar all day
984
00:58:28,005 --> 00:58:31,800
drinking beers where we're
watching the Golden Globes.
985
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,803
- Welcome to the 2019
Golden Global Awards.
986
00:58:35,803 --> 00:58:37,723
- He had strong opinions about fashion
987
00:58:37,723 --> 00:58:39,058
and oh girl, what are you wearing?
988
00:58:39,058 --> 00:58:40,433
And oh no, she didn't.
989
00:58:40,433 --> 00:58:42,228
Then it was just planning,
okay, I'll see you,
990
00:58:42,228 --> 00:58:45,688
I'll pick you up and we'll go
to the Runyon in the morning.
991
00:58:45,688 --> 00:58:49,527
- The same night, he used
to give me songs and stuff.
992
00:58:49,527 --> 00:58:50,735
I was like I'm jamming
with my Apple Music.
993
00:58:50,735 --> 00:58:52,320
Boom.
994
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,948
Occasionally he would
like to go down to the bar
995
00:58:54,948 --> 00:58:57,743
to play pool there over
here on Santa Monica.
996
00:58:57,743 --> 00:58:59,203
Ed Buck lives on the way.
997
00:59:01,830 --> 00:59:02,998
- If you spend the whole day drinking,
998
00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:05,375
your defenses are down.
999
00:59:16,845 --> 00:59:19,430
Starting with the morning, getting up,
1000
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:21,558
driving over to the
house, him not responding
1001
00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:22,935
when I said I'm here.
1002
00:59:22,935 --> 00:59:25,437
The lights on, the windows
open and I'm thinking,
1003
00:59:25,437 --> 00:59:28,648
oh, maybe he just went
to go have a little,
1004
00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:33,112
a little rendezvous
with someone, you know?
1005
00:59:33,112 --> 00:59:35,155
But by the time I got back home,
1006
00:59:35,155 --> 00:59:36,740
the news was coming in.
1007
00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:39,910
For the second
time in less than two years,
1008
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:44,873
a black man was found dead
at the home of Ed Buck.
1009
00:59:45,290 --> 00:59:46,708
According
to the Los Angeles County
1010
00:59:46,708 --> 00:59:48,543
Sheriff's office deputies respond
1011
00:59:48,543 --> 00:59:50,588
to the apartment just after 1 a.m.
1012
00:59:50,588 --> 00:59:52,673
Paramedics conducted CPR on the victim,
1013
00:59:52,673 --> 00:59:54,173
but he died at the scene.
1014
00:59:54,173 --> 00:59:55,383
His name was not released.
1015
00:59:55,383 --> 00:59:57,510
Buck was home at the time.
1016
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,808
- There was the body that
they brought out the door.
1017
01:00:03,808 --> 01:00:05,518
And so I took a screenshot of it
1018
01:00:05,518 --> 01:00:06,978
'cause I was sending it to Tim.
1019
01:00:06,978 --> 01:00:08,980
- I'm texting him and
sending him the articles
1020
01:00:08,980 --> 01:00:11,150
and going it's happened again.
1021
01:00:11,150 --> 01:00:12,650
It's happened again.
1022
01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:14,320
- Hey, hey, you working today?
1023
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,695
Give me a call.
1024
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:18,157
The next day I called
again in the morning.
1025
01:00:18,157 --> 01:00:19,240
I was like, I'm not worried.
1026
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,575
What the hell?
1027
01:00:20,575 --> 01:00:22,703
And he would've called me about that.
1028
01:00:22,703 --> 01:00:25,288
And then Alex called me and he asked me,
1029
01:00:25,288 --> 01:00:27,333
if I had heard from detective.
1030
01:00:27,333 --> 01:00:28,417
I go for what?
1031
01:00:28,417 --> 01:00:30,127
In connection to Ed Buck.
1032
01:00:33,172 --> 01:00:36,717
I had recorded the CNN episode.
1033
01:00:39,303 --> 01:00:40,803
I pushed back and rewind on it
1034
01:00:43,598 --> 01:00:48,437
And I looked at the body bag
and I just said, that's it.
1035
01:00:49,730 --> 01:00:50,563
That's him.
1036
01:00:52,358 --> 01:00:54,652
It didn't make sense
to me then, that's him.
1037
01:00:56,987 --> 01:00:58,613
West Hollywood
resident Timothy Dean,
1038
01:00:58,613 --> 01:01:01,783
according to we WEHOville,
he was the man found dead
1039
01:01:01,783 --> 01:01:03,660
early Monday morning at the apartment
1040
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:05,578
of Democratic donor Ed Buck.
1041
01:01:08,248 --> 01:01:11,000
- That was his body at
the place he told me
1042
01:01:12,127 --> 01:01:14,797
that he would never, he's not gonna go.
1043
01:01:14,797 --> 01:01:19,802
Tim had never not been
a man of his word to me.
1044
01:01:30,312 --> 01:01:35,317
- As close as we were, it boggles my mind
1045
01:01:35,483 --> 01:01:38,112
why he wouldn't talk to me about it.
1046
01:01:38,112 --> 01:01:40,988
Like we talked, I mean, he
spent Christmas with my family.
1047
01:01:47,078 --> 01:01:49,540
- Alex was in town.
1048
01:01:49,540 --> 01:01:51,250
We met at Walter's house.
1049
01:01:51,250 --> 01:01:54,503
A, to be together and B, how are we going
1050
01:01:54,503 --> 01:01:57,673
to address this in the media
1051
01:01:57,673 --> 01:02:00,092
because it's gonna be a media storm.
1052
01:02:14,022 --> 01:02:17,943
- Even in the press, the small
press them vilifying again,
1053
01:02:17,943 --> 01:02:21,195
first with Gemmel, the
first boy, and then Tim.
1054
01:02:40,173 --> 01:02:42,633
- This is not a situation where Mr. Buck
1055
01:02:42,633 --> 01:02:44,303
has caused the death.
1056
01:02:44,303 --> 01:02:46,472
This is a situation where Mr. Buck
1057
01:02:46,472 --> 01:02:49,475
has had long time
friends who unfortunately
1058
01:02:49,475 --> 01:02:52,770
do not handle their life well.
1059
01:02:52,770 --> 01:02:57,440
- There's an epidemic in media.
1060
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,985
When it comes to black men there becomes
1061
01:03:00,985 --> 01:03:04,323
irresponsible journalism
to give the public
1062
01:03:04,323 --> 01:03:08,743
a reason of why this person didn't deserve
1063
01:03:08,743 --> 01:03:11,830
to live and what they did.
1064
01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:15,083
They deserve the result.
1065
01:03:15,083 --> 01:03:17,127
- I didn't know Tim's porn name.
1066
01:03:17,127 --> 01:03:18,420
Did I know he did porn?
1067
01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:20,255
Yeah, I knew he did porn.
1068
01:03:20,255 --> 01:03:23,175
- Walter and I knew what he did.
1069
01:03:23,175 --> 01:03:26,093
When we found out that he was
working in the sex industry,
1070
01:03:26,093 --> 01:03:28,805
he wanted to keep that
separate from, to us.
1071
01:03:28,805 --> 01:03:31,098
- Rent is expensive.
1072
01:03:31,098 --> 01:03:33,352
You fall off for a month or two,
1073
01:03:33,352 --> 01:03:37,355
and your ass be downtown
on the street, okay?
1074
01:03:37,355 --> 01:03:40,025
- The escorting, the
porn, all that sex work
1075
01:03:40,025 --> 01:03:45,030
that isn't about him being a
bad person or a dark person.
1076
01:03:46,532 --> 01:03:47,783
It's survival.
1077
01:03:49,325 --> 01:03:53,705
- His adopted mother,
she was in a nursing home
1078
01:03:53,705 --> 01:03:56,792
and he had to pay for the nursing home.
1079
01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:04,340
- His family, after I
explained it to them,
1080
01:04:04,340 --> 01:04:06,385
they were really good about it.
1081
01:04:06,385 --> 01:04:08,262
He was like the only thing that matters
1082
01:04:08,262 --> 01:04:11,515
is taking care of my brother.
1083
01:04:11,515 --> 01:04:12,348
Earlier, confirmation
1084
01:04:12,348 --> 01:04:14,977
at NBC 4 from his sister in Tampa,
1085
01:04:14,977 --> 01:04:17,520
waiting for her brother
to visit next month.
1086
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,940
He loved
to come home and eat.
1087
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:24,528
He just loved his family and
he really loved his friends.
1088
01:04:24,528 --> 01:04:27,905
- Tim was loved by his
family, his friends,
1089
01:04:27,905 --> 01:04:30,617
everybody that he came into contact with.
1090
01:04:30,617 --> 01:04:32,578
Mark Chambers
says Timothy Dean,
1091
01:04:32,578 --> 01:04:35,330
his friend of almost
30 years was educated,
1092
01:04:35,330 --> 01:04:38,165
athletic and had an eye for fashion.
1093
01:04:38,165 --> 01:04:39,793
- Tim had his own apartment.
1094
01:04:39,793 --> 01:04:41,378
He had his own job.
1095
01:04:41,378 --> 01:04:42,838
He was gainfully employed.
1096
01:04:42,838 --> 01:04:46,925
He didn't need pennies from
this man to be who he was.
1097
01:04:46,925 --> 01:04:50,928
And that was the narrative
I was trying to make sure
1098
01:04:50,928 --> 01:04:52,805
people saw and heard.
1099
01:04:52,805 --> 01:04:53,640
- Tim's gone.
1100
01:04:54,933 --> 01:04:55,808
That's a fact.
1101
01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:59,605
How it happened is to be known.
1102
01:04:59,605 --> 01:05:02,773
But I just want everybody to
know he was a whole person.
1103
01:05:09,155 --> 01:05:12,825
- After Tim passed,
the voice became louder
1104
01:05:12,825 --> 01:05:15,370
to get justice for Gemmel.
1105
01:05:17,122 --> 01:05:20,750
Arriving on
that street was a lot.
1106
01:05:22,002 --> 01:05:22,960
It was a lot.
1107
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,005
It had never really been that chaotic
1108
01:05:26,005 --> 01:05:27,590
Arrest him now!
1109
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:28,758
Arrest him now!
1110
01:05:28,758 --> 01:05:30,552
Arrest him now!
1111
01:05:30,552 --> 01:05:32,137
Arrest him now!
1112
01:05:32,137 --> 01:05:33,680
Arrest him now!
1113
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,680
Arrest him now!
1114
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,015
- I think from the time
I got from the corner
1115
01:05:36,015 --> 01:05:37,558
to Ed Buck's house I had got stopped
1116
01:05:37,558 --> 01:05:39,518
at least 10 times by reporters.
1117
01:05:39,518 --> 01:05:42,563
Black boys are dying here.
1118
01:05:42,563 --> 01:05:46,233
This man is a problem not
to our black community
1119
01:05:46,233 --> 01:05:47,360
but to every community.
1120
01:05:48,445 --> 01:05:51,448
It clicked on the center of reality
1121
01:05:51,448 --> 01:05:55,535
to what Gemmel's family was dealing with
1122
01:05:55,535 --> 01:06:00,040
and what now this new family
was about to deal with
1123
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,208
and who is this new family?
1124
01:06:02,208 --> 01:06:04,710
- We should not even be here.
1125
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:06,380
There shouldn't even be another,
1126
01:06:06,380 --> 01:06:08,840
a second victim.
1127
01:06:09,967 --> 01:06:11,218
My son did not OD.
1128
01:06:11,218 --> 01:06:12,970
He was murdered.
1129
01:06:12,970 --> 01:06:14,428
- I met Gemmel's mom.
1130
01:06:14,428 --> 01:06:19,058
I met the main people from Gemmel's group.
1131
01:06:23,938 --> 01:06:26,023
There's a tie that binds us together.
1132
01:06:26,023 --> 01:06:30,445
It's like, that pain is everybody's.
1133
01:06:30,445 --> 01:06:33,155
Everybody can relate to that.
1134
01:06:33,155 --> 01:06:35,617
- Ed Buck gets to stay in his house
1135
01:06:35,617 --> 01:06:37,618
when he's killed two people and probably
1136
01:06:37,618 --> 01:06:39,245
will kill more people in the future.
1137
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:40,538
If you could repeat after me
1138
01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,040
and say Gemmel's name Moore.
1139
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:42,958
Gemmel Moore.
1140
01:06:42,958 --> 01:06:44,543
Gemmel Moore!
1141
01:06:44,543 --> 01:06:45,585
Gemmel Moore!
1142
01:06:46,670 --> 01:06:48,963
- I always thought Gemmel
was destined for greatness.
1143
01:06:48,963 --> 01:06:52,050
And I always knew Gemmel
would be known worldwide,
1144
01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:54,218
but then it broke my heart 'cause I know
1145
01:06:54,218 --> 01:06:56,345
that he would be so mad at us right now.
1146
01:06:57,638 --> 01:07:00,642
He would not want all his
business all over the world
1147
01:07:00,642 --> 01:07:01,475
like this.
1148
01:07:01,475 --> 01:07:02,853
This man is a danger to our community.
1149
01:07:02,853 --> 01:07:04,770
- Yes he is.
- We are not even talking
1150
01:07:04,770 --> 01:07:06,523
about the half of what he's doing.
1151
01:07:08,483 --> 01:07:11,945
I felt like I betrayed
my friend 'cause now
1152
01:07:11,945 --> 01:07:14,488
his business is really out there.
1153
01:07:14,488 --> 01:07:19,493
And then I realized like, this
is what we been fighting for.
1154
01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:26,460
And now we're gonna get
where we need to get.
1155
01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:28,712
And I just came at peace with that.
1156
01:07:28,712 --> 01:07:30,588
We're gonna be out here every night.
1157
01:07:30,588 --> 01:07:32,632
Every night.
1158
01:07:32,632 --> 01:07:33,633
Every night.
1159
01:07:34,508 --> 01:07:36,260
Why hasn't Ed BucK Been arrested
1160
01:07:36,260 --> 01:07:37,678
yet?
- What do we want?
1161
01:07:37,678 --> 01:07:38,513
Justice!
1162
01:07:38,513 --> 01:07:40,807
- What do we want?
- Justice!
1163
01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:43,477
- - What do we want?
- Justice!
1164
01:07:43,477 --> 01:07:46,188
- There is not gonna be any
more peace in West Hollywood
1165
01:07:46,188 --> 01:07:48,940
until Ed Buck is arrested.
1166
01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:50,025
For nearly a month,
1167
01:07:50,025 --> 01:07:51,777
Jerome Kitchen and others in the LGBTQ
1168
01:07:51,777 --> 01:07:55,322
and black community
have waited for answers.
1169
01:07:55,322 --> 01:07:57,157
- What do we want?
- Justice!
1170
01:07:57,157 --> 01:07:58,700
- Jerome had his role.
1171
01:07:58,700 --> 01:08:03,205
I mean, he's a loud voice and he knows how
1172
01:08:03,205 --> 01:08:04,498
to make his voice be heard.
1173
01:08:04,498 --> 01:08:07,292
- The mayor is in the pocket of the perp.
1174
01:08:07,292 --> 01:08:08,835
We're gonna turn a blind eye to it
1175
01:08:08,835 --> 01:08:12,297
all because the mayor is a perp himself.
1176
01:08:12,297 --> 01:08:16,593
John Duran and an alleged sexual assaultee
1177
01:08:16,593 --> 01:08:20,388
failed his city with
the Ed Buck situation.
1178
01:08:20,388 --> 01:08:22,182
And now there's two deaths.
1179
01:08:22,182 --> 01:08:24,225
Your first order of
business after your election
1180
01:08:24,225 --> 01:08:28,355
should be to get John Duran
out that goddamn seat.
1181
01:08:28,355 --> 01:08:29,940
- Okay?
1182
01:08:29,940 --> 01:08:32,733
From the big perp, thank you very much.
1183
01:08:32,733 --> 01:08:35,903
He willing to
put himself in harm's way.
1184
01:08:35,903 --> 01:08:39,448
He was spit on, you know,
and called a monkey.
1185
01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:43,035
Him and Jasmyne went and they
brought it to the forefront.
1186
01:08:43,035 --> 01:08:44,162
Arrest Ed Buck!
1187
01:08:44,162 --> 01:08:46,288
Activists
delivered 30,000 signatures
1188
01:08:46,288 --> 01:08:49,292
to Lacey's office to call
for Buck's prosecution.
1189
01:08:49,292 --> 01:08:50,585
- Nobody's coming inside of the building.
1190
01:08:50,585 --> 01:08:53,380
Lacey refuse
to meet with this group,
1191
01:08:53,380 --> 01:08:55,507
refused to even let them into the building
1192
01:08:55,507 --> 01:08:58,175
as they tried to present
her with boxes of petitions.
1193
01:08:58,175 --> 01:09:02,722
- I have live with this
for the rest of my life.
1194
01:09:02,722 --> 01:09:03,973
- Everybody got a staff to carry.
1195
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:07,310
Jasmyne's carried it.
1196
01:09:07,310 --> 01:09:10,397
- Now we have the whole
country's attention,
1197
01:09:10,397 --> 01:09:12,482
but we're going to have a
third one and a fourth one
1198
01:09:12,482 --> 01:09:15,610
if we don't stop this man.
1199
01:09:15,610 --> 01:09:18,572
- Seeing people who didn't even know Tim
1200
01:09:18,572 --> 01:09:21,908
or Gemmel take the time to do that
1201
01:09:21,908 --> 01:09:25,662
and to go out there meant so much I don't,
1202
01:09:25,662 --> 01:09:28,038
I mean, I could never pay them for that.
1203
01:09:28,038 --> 01:09:31,042
Lacey tells me
she hears their frustration,
1204
01:09:31,042 --> 01:09:32,793
but it all comes down to this.
1205
01:09:32,793 --> 01:09:35,547
- We can't file a criminal case
1206
01:09:35,547 --> 01:09:39,175
based on who has the loudest voice.
1207
01:09:39,175 --> 01:09:40,718
If go out there and arrest him now,
1208
01:09:40,718 --> 01:09:43,305
the clock starts ticking
and it wouldn't be ethical
1209
01:09:43,305 --> 01:09:46,892
right now to arrest him until
we really had the evidence.
1210
01:09:50,562 --> 01:09:51,938
Well, we now know what killed
1211
01:09:51,938 --> 01:09:54,065
a man inside Ed Buck's apartment.
1212
01:09:54,065 --> 01:09:55,525
Officials
say Timothy Dean died
1213
01:09:55,525 --> 01:09:57,735
from a methamphetamine overdose
1214
01:09:57,735 --> 01:09:59,487
and it was ruled accidental.
1215
01:10:02,657 --> 01:10:04,492
- It shocked me that he had an objection
1216
01:10:04,492 --> 01:10:09,497
'cause I know for a fact
that Tim didn't even like
1217
01:10:10,290 --> 01:10:11,498
to draw blood so.
1218
01:10:11,498 --> 01:10:14,377
- Doctors, the vampires,
he would call them,
1219
01:10:14,377 --> 01:10:16,963
he had an aversion to needles,
1220
01:10:16,963 --> 01:10:18,215
completely freaked out about.
1221
01:10:18,215 --> 01:10:19,423
This is Timothy.
1222
01:10:19,423 --> 01:10:21,508
You know, he's just like, okay, do it.
1223
01:10:21,508 --> 01:10:25,138
He couldn't look at it because
he would get sick or faint.
1224
01:10:32,062 --> 01:10:35,148
- I don't know a person
can determine whether
1225
01:10:35,148 --> 01:10:37,317
or not someone injected them.
1226
01:10:37,317 --> 01:10:38,150
I don't know.
1227
01:10:39,985 --> 01:10:42,988
The reason why I believe
people know in this case
1228
01:10:42,988 --> 01:10:46,200
is because there are multiple stories
1229
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,788
of young men saying he had to inject you
1230
01:10:50,788 --> 01:10:52,248
'cause that's how he got off,
1231
01:10:53,250 --> 01:10:55,085
you know, the sexual fetish of it.
1232
01:10:55,085 --> 01:10:56,335
It was very specific.
1233
01:11:00,298 --> 01:11:02,217
According to
the report Buck says Dean
1234
01:11:02,217 --> 01:11:05,720
was acting bizarrely, using
clothing to tie a noose
1235
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,097
around his own neck.
1236
01:11:07,097 --> 01:11:08,932
Buck says he removed the noose prior
1237
01:11:08,932 --> 01:11:11,142
to leaving the room to take a shower.
1238
01:11:11,142 --> 01:11:13,687
He found Dean unresponsive when he got out
1239
01:11:13,687 --> 01:11:17,565
and attempted CPR for 15
minutes before calling 911.
1240
01:11:21,568 --> 01:11:23,822
- I didn't wanna read it after that.
1241
01:11:23,822 --> 01:11:24,655
I was like...
1242
01:11:26,573 --> 01:11:28,952
I didn't need to know how awful it was.
1243
01:11:28,952 --> 01:11:29,785
It's awful.
1244
01:11:33,957 --> 01:11:35,750
- David, what's new in the investigation.
1245
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:36,960
What have we learned tonight?
1246
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,503
- Well, Jeff, the case against Ed Buck
1247
01:11:38,503 --> 01:11:40,297
is now in the hands of the LA county
1248
01:11:40,297 --> 01:11:41,463
district attorney's office.
1249
01:11:41,463 --> 01:11:43,883
Buck Hasn't been charged with any crimes
1250
01:11:43,883 --> 01:11:47,678
and he hasn't been asked the
tough questions until now.
1251
01:11:47,678 --> 01:11:50,140
While Buck
stays mostly in his apartment
1252
01:11:50,140 --> 01:11:52,725
on this day, our surveillance cameras
1253
01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:54,477
caught him with this black man,
1254
01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:57,605
probably in his 20s who
was eating an ice cream.
1255
01:11:57,605 --> 01:11:59,648
They went inside for about an hour,
1256
01:11:59,648 --> 01:12:01,735
then left to go to the Beverly Center
1257
01:12:01,735 --> 01:12:03,987
where we tried to talk with him.
1258
01:12:03,987 --> 01:12:05,488
Mr. Buck, I'm David Goldstein
1259
01:12:05,488 --> 01:12:06,530
with CBS 2 news.
1260
01:12:06,530 --> 01:12:09,033
Sir, what's going on
in your apartment, sir?
1261
01:12:09,033 --> 01:12:10,952
Can you tell us that?
1262
01:12:10,952 --> 01:12:13,330
Do you think your political
influence is keeping
1263
01:12:13,330 --> 01:12:15,165
you a free man now, sir
1264
01:12:15,165 --> 01:12:17,583
Is this is this young
man who's with you now,
1265
01:12:17,583 --> 01:12:19,377
is he in any harm?
1266
01:12:19,377 --> 01:12:24,382
- I don't feel like he had
any fear of being stopped
1267
01:12:24,548 --> 01:12:27,218
'cause he never stopped.
1268
01:12:27,218 --> 01:12:28,635
- Can you answer the question, sir?
1269
01:12:28,635 --> 01:12:30,805
Is it a coincidence that two men have died
1270
01:12:30,805 --> 01:12:31,638
in your apartment?
1271
01:12:31,638 --> 01:12:33,140
Why are you walking backwards, sir?
1272
01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:34,893
- You are, should be ashamed of yourself.
1273
01:12:34,893 --> 01:12:36,643
- Why should I be ashamed of myself, sir?
1274
01:12:36,643 --> 01:12:38,020
I'm not touching you at all.
1275
01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:41,065
- Ed Buck didn't give a shit.
1276
01:12:41,065 --> 01:12:44,360
He didn't care about Tim.
1277
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,653
He didn't care about Gemmel.
1278
01:12:45,653 --> 01:12:50,658
There were, it didn't even,
he didn't have any remorse.
1279
01:12:52,368 --> 01:12:53,828
He didn't give a shit.
1280
01:12:53,828 --> 01:12:56,413
The man he was
with stood off to the side,
1281
01:12:56,413 --> 01:12:58,500
not wanting to be on TV.
1282
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,168
- You know, you know who he is, right.
1283
01:13:00,168 --> 01:13:01,043
That's okay.
1284
01:13:01,043 --> 01:13:02,878
That's all I wanna know.
1285
01:13:02,878 --> 01:13:04,380
Why don't you answer any questions?
1286
01:13:04,380 --> 01:13:06,340
You have two people
who died in your house.
1287
01:13:06,340 --> 01:13:09,343
Because you're being a.
1288
01:13:09,343 --> 01:13:11,763
- Sir, I'm asking questions.
1289
01:13:28,195 --> 01:13:30,490
Today, family
and friends of Gemmel Moore
1290
01:13:30,490 --> 01:13:33,158
gathered in front of Buck's apartment
1291
01:13:33,158 --> 01:13:36,203
to mark the two-year
anniversary of Moore's death.
1292
01:13:36,203 --> 01:13:40,875
- Me, Jasmyne, the lawyers
with some of Gemmel friends,
1293
01:13:40,875 --> 01:13:44,712
we all prayed and I led the prayer.
1294
01:13:44,712 --> 01:13:47,132
And three things that
I finished with is that
1295
01:13:47,132 --> 01:13:52,010
we were going to get justice
through Ed Buck's pockets.
1296
01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:53,805
We were gonna get justice through
1297
01:13:53,805 --> 01:13:57,015
our criminal justice system,
he was gonna be arrested
1298
01:13:57,015 --> 01:13:58,560
and that we were gonna get justice
1299
01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:59,893
through our elected
officials 'cause people
1300
01:13:59,893 --> 01:14:01,520
are gonna be held accountable.
1301
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,982
And I said that I call
it done and it's gonna
1302
01:14:03,982 --> 01:14:05,442
start happening right away.
1303
01:14:15,827 --> 01:14:18,620
- There was a sting going
on by federal agents
1304
01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:21,040
in West Hollywood, a federal drug sting.
1305
01:14:21,875 --> 01:14:24,960
One of officers on that federal team
1306
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,880
heard about Ed Buck's situation
1307
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,548
and that two people had died.
1308
01:14:29,965 --> 01:14:33,260
Another one had escaped, with no arrest.
1309
01:14:46,523 --> 01:14:48,775
- I know John Doe number three.
1310
01:14:48,775 --> 01:14:50,068
He overdosed twice.
1311
01:14:50,068 --> 01:14:52,155
Not once, twice.
1312
01:14:52,155 --> 01:14:54,490
He overdosed, the hospital discharged him.
1313
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:55,575
He went back to Ed Buck house.
1314
01:14:55,575 --> 01:14:57,243
Ed Buck overdosed him again.
1315
01:14:57,243 --> 01:15:00,497
Just think about that's how
bad of a situation he was in.
1316
01:15:01,498 --> 01:15:03,415
- He went to the Sheriff's Department.
1317
01:15:03,415 --> 01:15:05,960
Say, hey man, this is going on.
1318
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,170
They blew it off.
1319
01:15:09,088 --> 01:15:12,217
The federal agent made it
a point that they went back
1320
01:15:12,217 --> 01:15:14,968
after that third guy went into the house.
1321
01:15:17,972 --> 01:15:18,932
Now there's just drugs here.
1322
01:15:20,225 --> 01:15:21,058
Those are yours.
1323
01:15:22,185 --> 01:15:23,937
Breaking news on CBS 2 News
1324
01:15:23,937 --> 01:15:24,770
at 11.
1325
01:15:24,770 --> 01:15:26,480
Perp walked out of his apartment.
1326
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:30,318
Former democratic donor
Ed Buck is in handcuffs.
1327
01:15:30,318 --> 01:15:32,862
- Yeah.
- Ed buck arrested
1328
01:15:32,862 --> 01:15:35,573
after a third man was allegedly overdosed
1329
01:15:35,573 --> 01:15:37,492
in his West Hollywood home.
1330
01:15:39,577 --> 01:15:42,455
- I saw on the news of him.
1331
01:15:42,455 --> 01:15:43,748
He's sitting in the back of a police car.
1332
01:15:43,748 --> 01:15:47,293
That was a victory for me.
1333
01:15:47,293 --> 01:15:49,753
Until that point he had
never been questioned.
1334
01:15:49,753 --> 01:15:51,380
It's like they fucking brought him flowers
1335
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:53,925
and cookies and candy every
time he killed someone.
1336
01:15:53,925 --> 01:15:56,302
- Tonight those who stood
up for the victim say
1337
01:15:56,302 --> 01:15:57,637
they feel vindicated.
1338
01:15:57,637 --> 01:16:00,515
- And I'm just so ecstatic that finally
1339
01:16:00,515 --> 01:16:04,102
there is the beginning
of justice in this case.
1340
01:16:04,102 --> 01:16:05,978
You know, he's just been arrested.
1341
01:16:05,978 --> 01:16:07,230
He's got to go through the process,
1342
01:16:07,230 --> 01:16:10,233
but this was a long time coming.
1343
01:16:11,985 --> 01:16:14,778
- I kind of gave up on the
criminal justice side of it.
1344
01:16:14,778 --> 01:16:16,613
So when I heard that it was happening,
1345
01:16:16,613 --> 01:16:19,200
I got, I almost passed out.
1346
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,368
- I am happy.
1347
01:16:20,368 --> 01:16:22,662
I knew that this day was gonna come.
1348
01:16:22,662 --> 01:16:25,748
I'm just so grateful that
my team did not give up.
1349
01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:27,625
- We have reached out to
Buck's attorneys so far,
1350
01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:29,252
no word from them tonight.
1351
01:16:29,252 --> 01:16:32,422
We can tell you that Buck
is due in court tomorrow.
1352
01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:35,090
His bail set at $4 million.
1353
01:16:39,428 --> 01:16:40,513
- Good afternoon, everyone.
1354
01:16:40,513 --> 01:16:41,513
My name is Nick Hanna.
1355
01:16:41,513 --> 01:16:44,308
I'm the United States
attorney here in Los Angeles.
1356
01:16:44,308 --> 01:16:45,977
Today I am announcing a federal case
1357
01:16:45,977 --> 01:16:48,980
against Mr. Buck, charges
that carry a mandatory
1358
01:16:48,980 --> 01:16:51,648
minimum sentence of 20
years in federal prison
1359
01:16:51,648 --> 01:16:54,693
and a maximum of life in
prison without parole.
1360
01:16:55,528 --> 01:16:57,488
Mr. Buck is now in federal custody
1361
01:16:58,655 --> 01:17:00,240
and he's making his first appearance
1362
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,285
in federal court this afternoon.
1363
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,330
That day, just
being in that courtroom,
1364
01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:08,790
it felt like we had came full circle.
1365
01:17:10,125 --> 01:17:11,377
Mr. Buck do you understand?
1366
01:17:11,377 --> 01:17:14,838
65 Year old Ed
Buck stood before the courtroom
1367
01:17:14,838 --> 01:17:17,425
in what's called an anti-suicide smock.
1368
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:20,970
- Ed Buck walked in there and right away
1369
01:17:20,970 --> 01:17:25,058
I started feeling hot, emotional.
1370
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:30,020
I felt sorry for him too.
1371
01:17:31,313 --> 01:17:32,607
He looked fragile.
1372
01:17:32,607 --> 01:17:34,817
He looks scared.
1373
01:17:34,817 --> 01:17:38,070
He looked unsure and I felt bad for him.
1374
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:40,740
But right as I feel bad for him,
1375
01:17:41,698 --> 01:17:44,368
I wondered how many
young people all right,
1376
01:17:44,368 --> 01:17:46,120
people felt like that in his house.
1377
01:17:49,748 --> 01:17:51,292
We weren't there for Gemmel.
1378
01:17:51,292 --> 01:17:53,043
We weren't there for Timothy.
1379
01:17:53,043 --> 01:17:56,005
We were there for John
Doe victim number three,
1380
01:17:56,005 --> 01:17:58,633
and we just wanted victim number three,
1381
01:17:58,633 --> 01:18:00,218
to know like you have this community,
1382
01:18:00,218 --> 01:18:01,718
you have a support system.
1383
01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:04,888
I'm glad, you
know, for the first time
1384
01:18:04,888 --> 01:18:07,600
in awhile that I've seen that justice
1385
01:18:08,643 --> 01:18:10,645
is being served properly.
1386
01:18:10,645 --> 01:18:15,400
- I hope that he's getting
the care that he needs.
1387
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,112
I hope that he's getting
the therapy that he needs.
1388
01:18:19,112 --> 01:18:21,197
- Activist Jasmyne Cannick and others
1389
01:18:21,197 --> 01:18:22,407
are assisting Mr. Doe.
1390
01:18:22,407 --> 01:18:24,950
They've gotten him a room
and gotten him off the street
1391
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:28,788
and say, they're helping him
so he can testify against Buck.
1392
01:18:28,788 --> 01:18:31,915
- DA Lacey charged Ed Buck
for the victim number three,
1393
01:18:31,915 --> 01:18:33,125
but she didn't help victim number three
1394
01:18:33,125 --> 01:18:35,920
with no housing, no
substance abuse or nothing.
1395
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,755
No, they let him get
out there on the street
1396
01:18:37,755 --> 01:18:40,508
in hopes that he can come
back and testify for a trial.
1397
01:18:45,513 --> 01:18:48,765
- Thank you everyone for
coming and good afternoon.
1398
01:18:48,765 --> 01:18:50,768
With regard to what the evidence is
1399
01:18:50,768 --> 01:18:53,478
for the US attorney that
may have been different
1400
01:18:53,478 --> 01:18:54,313
from what we had.
1401
01:18:54,313 --> 01:18:57,315
We did not have other victims
who were willing to talk
1402
01:18:57,315 --> 01:19:00,987
to the prosecutors and
tell us what happened
1403
01:19:00,987 --> 01:19:03,780
or tell us that they were
injected by Mr. Buck.
1404
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,495
- They weren't gonna do anything.
1405
01:19:10,495 --> 01:19:13,498
You see, they were going
to snatch it from them,
1406
01:19:13,498 --> 01:19:17,128
make it a federal case,
which would have put
1407
01:19:17,128 --> 01:19:22,133
would have tainted Lacey and her career
1408
01:19:24,010 --> 01:19:26,470
and tainted the Sheriff's Department.
1409
01:19:27,763 --> 01:19:28,598
- The Sheriff's Department
1410
01:19:28,598 --> 01:19:31,975
they saw that Mr. Moore was dead and,
1411
01:19:31,975 --> 01:19:35,813
but they investigated it
sort of like an overdose.
1412
01:19:35,813 --> 01:19:38,900
And we, you know, they found some things,
1413
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:42,153
but we contend that it's illegal
how they searched for it.
1414
01:19:42,153 --> 01:19:44,155
They needed a warrant in
order to get that stuff.
1415
01:19:44,155 --> 01:19:45,405
So that was the first thing.
1416
01:19:45,405 --> 01:19:47,908
Evidence found at the scene of drug use
1417
01:19:47,908 --> 01:19:52,120
in state court could never come in.
1418
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,707
- It took district attorney Jackie Lacey,
1419
01:19:54,707 --> 01:19:57,502
feeling like the Sheriff
Department kept throwing her under
1420
01:19:57,502 --> 01:20:00,003
the bus with the case to say, no,
1421
01:20:00,003 --> 01:20:02,048
actually we didn't arrest Ed Buck
1422
01:20:02,048 --> 01:20:03,590
because the sheriff took a chest out
1423
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:05,425
of his house without a warrant
1424
01:20:05,425 --> 01:20:08,137
and the case got thrown out of court.
1425
01:20:08,137 --> 01:20:10,055
But just imagine if she would
have had that compassion
1426
01:20:10,055 --> 01:20:12,517
to tell Gemmel's mom that on day one.
1427
01:20:13,392 --> 01:20:15,268
Maybe it would've made a little sense.
1428
01:20:17,313 --> 01:20:18,898
Good evening, everyone.
1429
01:20:18,898 --> 01:20:21,108
City Clerk, may we have
a roll call please?
1430
01:20:22,943 --> 01:20:23,860
Yes.
1431
01:20:23,860 --> 01:20:26,447
Council member Duran
is absent this evening.
1432
01:20:27,740 --> 01:20:28,658
- John Duran,
1433
01:20:28,658 --> 01:20:32,160
apparently he did not wanna be
here to see Gemmel's mother.
1434
01:20:33,370 --> 01:20:35,455
He was too cowardly to show up tonight.
1435
01:20:35,455 --> 01:20:37,415
- This is not a easy journey.
1436
01:20:37,415 --> 01:20:38,960
I'm a very private person.
1437
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:43,755
It's not easy at all, but we
came forward to save others.
1438
01:20:43,755 --> 01:20:46,883
- Jasmyne Cannick deserves
a lot of the recognition
1439
01:20:46,883 --> 01:20:49,303
for her tireless commitment
to shedding light
1440
01:20:49,303 --> 01:20:51,472
on these tragedies and to Jerome Kitchens
1441
01:20:51,472 --> 01:20:55,643
who has challenged us to
keep our eyes on the ball.
1442
01:20:55,643 --> 01:20:59,688
And our eyes never left the ball.
1443
01:20:59,688 --> 01:21:02,315
- A lot of elected officials
1444
01:21:02,315 --> 01:21:04,818
feel the heat up under them.
1445
01:21:04,818 --> 01:21:06,695
John's Durant's on the ballot.
1446
01:21:06,695 --> 01:21:09,698
Jackie Lacey's on the ballot.
1447
01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:11,993
Kevin De Lyon is on a ballot.
1448
01:21:11,993 --> 01:21:16,998
So people realize that one,
we were about serious business
1449
01:21:18,915 --> 01:21:23,128
and two, now my community and
other black and brown lives
1450
01:21:23,128 --> 01:21:26,340
realize that we gonna fight for you.
1451
01:21:26,340 --> 01:21:28,593
- The two years spent
investigating Ed Buck
1452
01:21:28,593 --> 01:21:31,428
was time well spent and
I hope you'll agree.
1453
01:21:39,770 --> 01:21:42,398
- It took me a long time
to clean up his room
1454
01:21:42,398 --> 01:21:46,943
and in doing so I found a
letter that he wrote me.
1455
01:21:48,487 --> 01:21:53,242
And it reads, "I don't
know where to start,
1456
01:21:53,242 --> 01:21:54,577
but I'm so emotional.
1457
01:21:55,995 --> 01:22:01,000
Leaving you, I had not seen
my family in four years.
1458
01:22:01,083 --> 01:22:03,543
You have been my family this whole time.
1459
01:22:04,587 --> 01:22:07,757
I really and honestly don't want to leave.
1460
01:22:07,757 --> 01:22:08,590
I'm scared.
1461
01:22:08,590 --> 01:22:12,762
I honestly am truly sorry for
everything I hurt you with.
1462
01:22:14,305 --> 01:22:16,098
Can we forget the past?
1463
01:22:16,098 --> 01:22:17,933
I don't know everything.
1464
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:21,603
I'm human and I'm trying
hard to be honest.
1465
01:22:22,855 --> 01:22:25,858
You give me a reason to want to be here.
1466
01:22:27,025 --> 01:22:29,862
I don't know what to do with my life.
1467
01:22:29,862 --> 01:22:33,032
It's horrible and well
I appreciate everything
1468
01:22:33,032 --> 01:22:34,367
you've done for me.
1469
01:22:34,367 --> 01:22:36,243
And if I never see you again,
1470
01:22:36,243 --> 01:22:39,872
just remember your nephew loves you.
1471
01:22:41,832 --> 01:22:43,458
Please don't talk shit
about my grammar skills
1472
01:22:43,458 --> 01:22:45,168
and punctual skills.
1473
01:22:45,168 --> 01:22:46,003
LOL."
1474
01:22:47,755 --> 01:22:49,340
And I never saw him again.
1475
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:52,133
Never did.
1476
01:23:01,978 --> 01:23:03,562
- My process with the grief with Tim
1477
01:23:03,562 --> 01:23:06,315
it's like, that's my resistance
to coming back up here
1478
01:23:06,315 --> 01:23:08,985
because I was so
overwhelmed with feelings.
1479
01:23:08,985 --> 01:23:10,193
I missed my friend.
1480
01:23:18,785 --> 01:23:22,498
- You know, we all got
to go at some point.
1481
01:23:22,498 --> 01:23:26,877
He took his trip a little bit
earlier than ours, you know,
1482
01:23:26,877 --> 01:23:28,920
and we mourn his death.
1483
01:23:30,923 --> 01:23:33,217
I choose to look at it you know,
1484
01:23:33,217 --> 01:23:34,468
things that happen in my life and death,
1485
01:23:34,468 --> 01:23:38,097
that's just another angel
that I got to call on
1486
01:23:38,097 --> 01:23:40,390
when I can't handle shit on earth.
1487
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:41,725
And he actually will help.
1488
01:23:47,857 --> 01:23:49,900
- I had emergency heart
surgeon pretty much.
1489
01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:53,028
You guys can hear this taking, right?
1490
01:23:57,033 --> 01:24:01,037
So that's the costs of
smoking, you know doing drugs.
1491
01:24:01,037 --> 01:24:04,832
And it caused me to have
a mechanical heart valve,
1492
01:24:04,832 --> 01:24:08,252
which is what's keeping me alive today.
1493
01:24:11,838 --> 01:24:14,133
You never know what kinda
horror film you're in
1494
01:24:14,133 --> 01:24:15,800
until you're in it 'cause the drugs
1495
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,553
would take you under and
take you to some dark places
1496
01:24:17,553 --> 01:24:20,222
that it's hard to get out of.
1497
01:24:20,222 --> 01:24:23,642
And I'm still having a
hard time dealing with it.
1498
01:24:23,642 --> 01:24:25,560
- I'm managing.
1499
01:24:27,438 --> 01:24:30,523
My penis is fine, but I'm managing.
1500
01:24:30,523 --> 01:24:31,858
It's just, it's depressing.
1501
01:24:31,858 --> 01:24:32,902
Like it's a whole lot.
1502
01:24:32,902 --> 01:24:33,778
It caused trauma.
1503
01:24:34,862 --> 01:24:38,490
- This crystal meth epidemic
when it comes to my people,
1504
01:24:38,490 --> 01:24:43,120
we need more counselors that look like us.
1505
01:24:44,788 --> 01:24:46,873
That's why it was important
for me to, you know,
1506
01:24:46,873 --> 01:24:50,002
to get licensed and certified
you know and you know,
1507
01:24:50,002 --> 01:24:51,920
strategic life coach and
spiritual development,
1508
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,090
those things, that's why it was important
1509
01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:59,095
because it's healing and it's not allowing
1510
01:24:59,178 --> 01:25:01,597
an opportunity for it to
come back into my life.
1511
01:25:03,307 --> 01:25:08,103
- Whether it's a gay man or
a trans woman or a woman,
1512
01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:11,482
that's a sex worker is really men in power
1513
01:25:11,482 --> 01:25:15,318
who are allowed to do
these types of things
1514
01:25:15,318 --> 01:25:16,528
and get away with it.
1515
01:25:18,197 --> 01:25:20,032
There are so many men out there like that
1516
01:25:20,032 --> 01:25:22,283
that are not behind bars.
1517
01:25:24,912 --> 01:25:26,455
Clients specifically go out
1518
01:25:26,455 --> 01:25:31,460
looking for black, young kids
who they can put a spell on.
1519
01:25:33,670 --> 01:25:36,715
I have another Ed Buck,
Number Two I call him,
1520
01:25:36,715 --> 01:25:39,008
I actually call him Ed Buck's twin.
1521
01:25:39,008 --> 01:25:41,262
He'll still text me, sending
me pictures of money.
1522
01:25:41,262 --> 01:25:43,888
He's trying to lure me in any way he can.
1523
01:25:43,888 --> 01:25:46,183
And it's like, what do I do?
1524
01:25:46,183 --> 01:25:47,308
I have two choices to make.
1525
01:25:47,308 --> 01:25:49,937
Do I wanna be healthy or
do I wanna pay my rent?
1526
01:25:54,023 --> 01:25:55,317
- Gemmel Moore.
1527
01:25:55,317 --> 01:25:57,903
Gemmel Moore, I say.
1528
01:25:57,903 --> 01:25:59,822
- Timothy Dean.
- Timothy Dean, I say.
1529
01:26:02,825 --> 01:26:05,285
- Our criminal justice system, it's there.
1530
01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:09,248
It is there and the resources are there.
1531
01:26:09,248 --> 01:26:10,623
The help is there.
1532
01:26:10,623 --> 01:26:12,000
It's all there.
1533
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:13,502
They just need to be enforced.
1534
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:18,590
We are live
at the federal courthouse
1535
01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:21,677
in the federal trial against Ed Buck.
1536
01:26:21,677 --> 01:26:25,890
He has now been found guilty
of all nine federal charges.
1537
01:26:29,727 --> 01:26:31,228
We made it happen.
1538
01:26:31,228 --> 01:26:33,688
- I thank Jasmyne for
keeping her foot on the pedal
1539
01:26:33,688 --> 01:26:35,940
and making that noise.
1540
01:26:35,940 --> 01:26:38,568
But Tim was, he was so close.
1541
01:26:38,568 --> 01:26:40,905
I have to protect myself.
1542
01:26:40,905 --> 01:26:43,323
I had to disassociate myself with it.
1543
01:26:43,323 --> 01:26:47,620
We all have the battles
we wage and we fight
1544
01:26:47,620 --> 01:26:49,830
and mine is for LGBT basketball.
1545
01:26:53,583 --> 01:26:55,210
Friends and
family of the victims,
1546
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:59,255
cheering, crying, hugging,
celebrating within minutes
1547
01:26:59,255 --> 01:27:00,423
of the verdict.
1548
01:27:00,423 --> 01:27:03,802
- My son is more than
a movie or documentary.
1549
01:27:03,802 --> 01:27:06,347
This is my baby, my son,
who is a human being
1550
01:27:06,347 --> 01:27:10,183
and he's loved by lots of people.
1551
01:27:10,183 --> 01:27:12,185
But, today is bittersweet.
1552
01:27:12,185 --> 01:27:16,105
Today is the day that my son was murdered
1553
01:27:16,105 --> 01:27:19,525
when he left my house four years ago.
1554
01:27:19,525 --> 01:27:22,070
But we got victory today.
1555
01:27:22,070 --> 01:27:25,032
We got victory in the west today.
1556
01:27:25,032 --> 01:27:30,037
- This has been an undesirable fight,
1557
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:32,538
but it's totally been worth it.
1558
01:27:32,538 --> 01:27:35,583
And I often tell people that
we are fighting this fight
1559
01:27:35,583 --> 01:27:38,420
because it's worth it and
because it's important,
1560
01:27:38,420 --> 01:27:41,715
not for our own self
because if that's the case,
1561
01:27:41,715 --> 01:27:42,633
we wouldn't do it.
1562
01:27:44,175 --> 01:27:46,135
I call Gemmel a prophet now and a prophet
1563
01:27:46,135 --> 01:27:48,180
is somebody that comes to earth
1564
01:27:48,180 --> 01:27:50,098
to awaken us to certain things.
1565
01:28:09,410 --> 01:28:11,995
- I don't know what justice means for me.
1566
01:28:11,995 --> 01:28:16,458
I really don't because
what I want I can't have.
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