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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,305 --> 00:00:06,806 - In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:08,908 sexually based offenses 3 00:00:08,975 --> 00:00:11,144 are considered especially heinous. 4 00:00:11,244 --> 00:00:13,513 In New York City, the dedicated detectives 5 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:15,348 who investigate these vicious felonies 6 00:00:15,382 --> 00:00:16,883 are members of an elite squad 7 00:00:16,983 --> 00:00:18,852 known as the Special Victims Unit. 8 00:00:18,952 --> 00:00:21,988 These are their stories. 9 00:00:22,088 --> 00:00:24,190 - And the living room-- 10 00:00:24,224 --> 00:00:26,559 swimming in natural light, 11 00:00:26,626 --> 00:00:30,964 floor-to-ceiling windows to showcase the view. 12 00:00:31,031 --> 00:00:32,298 - Not bad. 13 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:34,200 - "Not bad"? It's spectacular. 14 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:37,170 - Sunset at Iguazรบ Falls is spectacular. 15 00:00:37,203 --> 00:00:40,373 The omakase at Sukiyabashi Jiro is spectacular. 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,575 - My husband is a stickler for words. 17 00:00:42,642 --> 00:00:45,111 - All I'm saying is, let's just save the hyperbole 18 00:00:45,178 --> 00:00:47,847 for something spectacular. 19 00:00:49,149 --> 00:00:51,017 Shall we move on? 20 00:00:51,084 --> 00:00:52,452 - That would be spectacular. 21 00:00:52,519 --> 00:00:54,254 - Wait until I show you the master bedroom. 22 00:00:54,287 --> 00:00:56,222 The view is amazing. 23 00:00:56,289 --> 00:00:58,258 It's truly a highlight. 24 00:00:58,291 --> 00:01:00,894 You get floor-to-ceiling windows, 25 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,562 breathtaking city views. 26 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:05,031 It's perfect for waking up. 27 00:01:05,098 --> 00:01:06,900 - Skyline everywhere. 28 00:01:30,557 --> 00:01:32,325 What the-- 29 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:44,337 - Inspector. - Captain Benson. 30 00:01:44,404 --> 00:01:46,139 - We got a call about a sexual assault. 31 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:48,074 - Guy apartment-hunting across the street 32 00:01:48,141 --> 00:01:49,376 saw it through a telescope. 33 00:01:49,442 --> 00:01:51,244 Says he saw a woman in her bra and panties 34 00:01:51,311 --> 00:01:53,613 in this building getting assaulted at gunpoint. 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,416 - And no other 911 calls? - She hasn't reported it. 36 00:01:56,483 --> 00:01:58,718 - What floor was he looking at through his telescope? 37 00:01:58,752 --> 00:01:59,853 - Fifth floor. 38 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:01,654 - And any sign of the gunman? - No. 39 00:02:01,688 --> 00:02:04,024 We secured what the witness said was the apartment 40 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:05,191 and cleared the building. 41 00:02:05,258 --> 00:02:07,293 - Okay, we'll go talk to him. - Yeah. 42 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,897 All right, Inspector. Thank you. We got it from here. 43 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:12,632 Hey, Eric. - Captain. 44 00:02:12,699 --> 00:02:14,601 - So what do we know about this building? 45 00:02:14,634 --> 00:02:15,635 - Uh, no doorman. 46 00:02:15,669 --> 00:02:17,404 There's a part-time super. He's on his way. 47 00:02:17,504 --> 00:02:19,673 - Any security cams? - Just in the elevator. 48 00:02:19,739 --> 00:02:21,775 - All right, well, when the super gets here, 49 00:02:21,808 --> 00:02:23,143 have him pull all the footage 50 00:02:23,209 --> 00:02:25,278 and track down whoever lives in that unit. 51 00:02:25,378 --> 00:02:28,848 - You and I cover the scene? - Yeah. 52 00:02:28,915 --> 00:02:31,317 So we have a high overhead angle. 53 00:02:31,418 --> 00:02:33,586 Let's hope that it caught something usable. 54 00:02:33,687 --> 00:02:35,422 - If our perp didn't take the stairs. 55 00:02:35,522 --> 00:02:37,190 - Well, criminals tend to be lazy. 56 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:41,261 - You and your wife were looking at apartments? 57 00:02:41,327 --> 00:02:42,429 - We can't afford anything. 58 00:02:42,495 --> 00:02:44,264 We just like going to open houses. 59 00:02:44,364 --> 00:02:46,466 - And this one happened to have a telescope by the window? 60 00:02:46,499 --> 00:02:48,001 - They stage these places. 61 00:02:48,034 --> 00:02:50,270 - And what made you look into the windows of this building? 62 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:51,905 - Curiosity, I guess. 63 00:02:51,971 --> 00:02:53,573 - Okay. Just tell us what you saw. 64 00:02:53,606 --> 00:02:55,508 - A young girl--I could see she was being forced 65 00:02:55,608 --> 00:02:57,444 to put her clothes back on by some guy with a gun. 66 00:02:57,510 --> 00:02:59,112 - Did it look like he assaulted her? 67 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:00,847 - Yeah. To me, it did. 68 00:03:00,914 --> 00:03:02,115 - Can you describe the guy? 69 00:03:02,215 --> 00:03:03,683 - Black, 6 feet. 70 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:04,984 - Okay. 71 00:03:05,051 --> 00:03:06,152 - Whatever they were doing, 72 00:03:06,252 --> 00:03:07,987 it looked like they were finished, 73 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:09,756 and they were getting ready to leave. 74 00:03:09,823 --> 00:03:11,458 - Thank you. 75 00:03:11,491 --> 00:03:13,993 - All right, make sure that you get all of this bedding 76 00:03:14,060 --> 00:03:15,729 and the mattress pad, too. 77 00:03:15,795 --> 00:03:18,298 - Whoever it was left these, but there's one missing. 78 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:19,632 - All right, a condom. 79 00:03:19,733 --> 00:03:21,001 You find one in the bed or on the floor? 80 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:22,068 - No, Captain. 81 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:23,603 - All right, so snake the plumbing. 82 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:25,438 I don't care if you have to pull those pipes. 83 00:03:25,472 --> 00:03:28,008 - Captain, Sergeant. - What do you got? 84 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:30,677 - I found three impressions here. 85 00:03:30,777 --> 00:03:32,112 - Okay. 86 00:03:32,178 --> 00:03:34,247 Looks like some kind of camera tripod. 87 00:03:34,314 --> 00:03:36,416 - If it was, the perp could have filmed the assault. 88 00:03:36,483 --> 00:03:39,786 - Yeah, so cut this section out and get it to the lab. 89 00:03:39,853 --> 00:03:42,155 - Maybe we get lucky, and the vic will just call it in. 90 00:03:42,255 --> 00:03:44,057 - Who's to say she's not still being held 91 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:45,325 at gunpoint somewhere? 92 00:03:45,458 --> 00:03:47,527 - I don't know, but I'm sensing some kind of theme. 93 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:48,928 - What is that? 94 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:51,464 - Telescopes, camera-- voyeurism. 95 00:03:51,498 --> 00:03:53,433 - You think the guy with the telescope 96 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:55,301 knows more than he's saying? 97 00:03:55,335 --> 00:03:57,070 - A peeping Tom with a telescope 98 00:03:57,103 --> 00:03:59,072 clocks a rape through a random window 99 00:03:59,139 --> 00:04:01,274 at the exact time it's happening? 100 00:04:01,374 --> 00:04:03,743 What's the odds of that? - In this town? 101 00:04:03,777 --> 00:04:05,679 Better than you think. 102 00:04:56,696 --> 00:04:58,431 - So a witness saw a young woman in her underwear 103 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:00,166 being held at gunpoint? 104 00:05:00,233 --> 00:05:01,501 Did he see an assault? 105 00:05:01,601 --> 00:05:03,436 - No, but we have reason to believe 106 00:05:03,536 --> 00:05:05,271 that whatever happened may have been recorded. 107 00:05:05,372 --> 00:05:07,173 - Is there any chance this guy with the telescope 108 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,475 just saw a porn shoot? 109 00:05:08,508 --> 00:05:10,210 - It'd have to be pretty rough. 110 00:05:10,276 --> 00:05:11,878 I mean, consensual non-consent? 111 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:13,246 - Maybe the gun was a prop. 112 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,848 - It might explain why it was never reported. 113 00:05:14,948 --> 00:05:16,716 - Where are we with the building surveillance? 114 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:19,753 - We got elevator footage from 9:00 a.m. this morning. 115 00:05:19,819 --> 00:05:21,454 - Well, there's the girl and the gunman, 116 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:23,323 like the witness said he saw. 117 00:05:23,423 --> 00:05:25,425 - Wait, who's this guy? - Maybe her boyfriend. 118 00:05:25,525 --> 00:05:27,227 - Whoever he is, he's trying to protect her. 119 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:28,795 - Send this over to Real-Time Crime, 120 00:05:28,862 --> 00:05:30,230 and have them put it through facial rec. 121 00:05:30,263 --> 00:05:31,264 - You got it. - I thought you said 122 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:32,932 this was filmed-- I don't see a camera. 123 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,934 - We have footage of the perp carrying up 124 00:05:35,001 --> 00:05:36,269 a tripod and a camera bag. 125 00:05:36,369 --> 00:05:37,771 - So this was premeditated? 126 00:05:37,837 --> 00:05:39,172 - But who's the vic? 127 00:05:39,272 --> 00:05:41,107 - We'll know a lot more once we get an ID. 128 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:42,842 - Okay, so show this to the eyewitness 129 00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:45,512 and have him confirm that this is the young woman 130 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:47,280 that he saw through the telescope. 131 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:48,515 - Did you run the apartment? 132 00:05:48,548 --> 00:05:49,983 - Yeah, the owner lives in Florida. 133 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:53,086 Neighbor says he sublets his place in New York a lot. 134 00:05:53,153 --> 00:05:54,487 - He just landed this morning. 135 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:56,489 We have some unis picking him up from the airport now. 136 00:05:56,523 --> 00:05:57,891 - We ran his record. He's clean. 137 00:05:57,991 --> 00:06:00,326 - Okay, so can you get a subpoena for his bank records? 138 00:06:00,427 --> 00:06:02,128 I mean, that might be more telling. 139 00:06:02,162 --> 00:06:04,564 - Call the judge. - All right. 140 00:06:04,664 --> 00:06:06,366 - I'm the real victim here. 141 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:07,801 Your techs ripped out 142 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:10,770 50 grand's worth of plumbing fixtures. 143 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:13,473 What are you going to do about putting it all back together? 144 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:16,109 - Wait, Mr. Ziegler, you went into your apartment? 145 00:06:16,176 --> 00:06:17,444 - It's a crime scene. 146 00:06:17,510 --> 00:06:19,779 - I, uh, ducked under the yellow tape. 147 00:06:19,846 --> 00:06:22,982 I wanted to show my lawyer proof of damages. 148 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:24,684 - Oh, yeah? What's your lawyer gonna say 149 00:06:24,751 --> 00:06:26,419 if I arrest you for tampering with evidence? 150 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:28,455 - Or better yet, when he finds out 151 00:06:28,521 --> 00:06:30,790 that you rented your place to a rapist? 152 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,525 - What are you talking about? 153 00:06:32,592 --> 00:06:34,594 - We suspect that this young woman 154 00:06:34,694 --> 00:06:37,063 was assaulted in your apartment. 155 00:06:37,163 --> 00:06:38,531 - Who did you rent your place to? 156 00:06:38,598 --> 00:06:41,134 - I, uh, got it listed online. 157 00:06:41,201 --> 00:06:42,769 I emailed back and forth 158 00:06:42,869 --> 00:06:46,006 with a nice woman from Houston, Texas. 159 00:06:46,039 --> 00:06:47,774 The credit card cleared. 160 00:06:47,874 --> 00:06:49,275 - What's her name? 161 00:06:49,342 --> 00:06:51,444 - Here's the rental agreement. 162 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:55,448 - Virginia Hefferman. 163 00:06:55,515 --> 00:06:57,150 - All right, so this is the woman 164 00:06:57,217 --> 00:06:58,385 who rented the apartment. 165 00:06:58,485 --> 00:07:00,387 - Virginia Hefferman-- 60, no record. 166 00:07:00,487 --> 00:07:02,322 She reported her credit card stolen 167 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:03,623 after discovering fraudulent charges. 168 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:05,658 - And when was the last time she used it? 169 00:07:05,692 --> 00:07:07,761 - A few weeks ago at a gas station outside of Houston. 170 00:07:07,827 --> 00:07:10,764 - So did our eyewitness ID the people in the elevator? 171 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:12,198 - He did. 172 00:07:12,298 --> 00:07:13,767 He said that two of them matched 173 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:15,935 the description of the woman and the perp 174 00:07:16,036 --> 00:07:17,237 he saw through the window. 175 00:07:17,337 --> 00:07:19,272 - He didn't even know there was a third person in the room. 176 00:07:19,372 --> 00:07:20,573 - And nobody else reported this crime? 177 00:07:20,674 --> 00:07:21,975 - Nope. - All right. 178 00:07:22,042 --> 00:07:24,344 Well, what about the DNA from the apartment bathroom 179 00:07:24,411 --> 00:07:26,513 or, you know, something in the sheets? 180 00:07:26,579 --> 00:07:28,248 - They found a few hairs, sent them to the lab. 181 00:07:28,314 --> 00:07:29,582 - Okay. Condoms? 182 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:31,451 - Yeah, CSU had a lot of luck with that one. 183 00:07:31,551 --> 00:07:32,652 - Almost too much. 184 00:07:32,752 --> 00:07:34,220 - Okay. What does that mean? 185 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:36,322 - They pulled upwards of 25 condoms 186 00:07:36,356 --> 00:07:37,891 from the building's plumbing. 187 00:07:37,957 --> 00:07:39,559 - The lab's working on them right now. 188 00:07:39,659 --> 00:07:41,594 - Real-Time Crime ran facial recognition. 189 00:07:41,661 --> 00:07:42,796 - No ID on the shooter, 190 00:07:42,896 --> 00:07:44,898 but we got an ID on the girl and the boy. 191 00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:46,299 - Who are they? 192 00:07:46,366 --> 00:07:48,368 - Josephine DeWinn, 18, goes by Josie-- 193 00:07:48,401 --> 00:07:50,136 senior honors student at Whitman Hall. 194 00:07:50,236 --> 00:07:52,105 And she was just accepted into Stanford pre-law. 195 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:53,139 - And there's more. 196 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:54,708 Her father's a big-time CEO 197 00:07:54,774 --> 00:07:55,975 at an insurance company. 198 00:07:56,076 --> 00:07:57,911 - Gordon DeWinn, and the guy's loaded. 199 00:07:57,977 --> 00:07:59,579 - And his wife's no slouch either. 200 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,648 - Natalie DeWinn-- top lawyer for Goldman Sachs. 201 00:08:01,715 --> 00:08:03,750 What about the boy? 202 00:08:03,850 --> 00:08:06,486 - Natalie's son, Atlas, Josie's stepbrother-- 203 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:07,954 also a senior at Whitman Hall. 204 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:10,857 - Well, now we know why he was consoling her. 205 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:13,393 - If she's 18, then we don't need to notify the parents. 206 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:15,295 - Well, they didn't tell the cops, 207 00:08:15,362 --> 00:08:17,530 so maybe they didn't tell their parents. 208 00:08:17,630 --> 00:08:19,799 All right, start with her. 209 00:08:22,635 --> 00:08:24,337 - So this is where she wanted to meet? 210 00:08:24,404 --> 00:08:25,638 - Well, she said she didn't want us 211 00:08:25,739 --> 00:08:26,973 to go to her house, so... 212 00:08:27,073 --> 00:08:28,708 - Well, it means that we were right. 213 00:08:28,808 --> 00:08:30,343 She didn't tell her parents. 214 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:33,346 Josephine DeWinn? 215 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:35,448 - Yeah. - Hi. 216 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,751 I'm Captain Curry. This is Detective Silva. 217 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:39,819 - Mind if we ask you a few questions? 218 00:08:39,886 --> 00:08:40,820 - Like what? 219 00:08:40,887 --> 00:08:42,956 - Well, as we said on the phone, 220 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:45,692 we're following up on an investigation. 221 00:08:45,792 --> 00:08:47,027 - About? 222 00:08:47,060 --> 00:08:50,196 - An eyewitness said that they saw something suspicious 223 00:08:50,296 --> 00:08:52,032 this morning and called 911. 224 00:08:53,466 --> 00:08:55,035 - Did he tell you what he saw? 225 00:08:55,101 --> 00:08:58,071 - He said that he saw a man holding you at gunpoint, 226 00:08:58,171 --> 00:09:00,473 forcing you to get dressed. 227 00:09:00,573 --> 00:09:02,409 Does that sound about right? 228 00:09:08,181 --> 00:09:10,617 - Josephine... 229 00:09:10,684 --> 00:09:12,986 it seems like you were sexually assaulted 230 00:09:13,086 --> 00:09:15,021 this morning. 231 00:09:15,055 --> 00:09:18,391 Is there a reason why you didn't call the cops? 232 00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:20,026 - He told me not to. 233 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:22,929 He said if I did, he was gonna hurt my family. 234 00:09:22,962 --> 00:09:25,899 - Well, this guy--he can't hurt you or your family now. 235 00:09:25,965 --> 00:09:27,734 - That's right, not if we're involved. 236 00:09:27,834 --> 00:09:29,102 We can protect you. 237 00:09:29,202 --> 00:09:31,871 - And we can do that better if you help us catch him. 238 00:09:31,971 --> 00:09:34,040 - Can you tell us what happened? 239 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:38,878 - I was raped. 240 00:09:38,945 --> 00:09:41,581 Okay? Is that what you wanted to hear? 241 00:09:41,648 --> 00:09:43,650 - We are here to help you. - I don't want your help. 242 00:09:43,683 --> 00:09:45,518 - We need you to file a report. - No, no, no. 243 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,287 Didn't you hear me? I don't want all that. 244 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:49,189 - Okay, okay. 245 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:52,992 Josephine, you said that you were raped, right? 246 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:55,929 Don't you want us to catch this guy? 247 00:09:58,531 --> 00:10:00,433 - I'm going to college in the fall, 248 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:01,901 3,000 miles away from here. 249 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:05,071 The last thing I want to do is take any of this with me. 250 00:10:05,138 --> 00:10:06,406 I agreed to talk to you. 251 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:09,042 Now, please, just leave me alone. 252 00:10:09,142 --> 00:10:10,944 - Josie. 253 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,882 - She didn't mention being filmed. 254 00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:17,984 - Or the fact that her stepbrother was there 255 00:10:18,051 --> 00:10:19,052 when it happened. 256 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:20,887 - Maybe she's trying to protect him. 257 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:23,356 - Well, he's only 17, so it's not her call. 258 00:10:30,864 --> 00:10:31,931 - So Josie admitted to being raped 259 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:34,934 but doesn't want to cooperate with the investigation? 260 00:10:35,001 --> 00:10:37,303 - She seems pretty shut down. I think she's in denial. 261 00:10:37,370 --> 00:10:39,105 - Well, which is understandable. 262 00:10:39,139 --> 00:10:41,041 But she's not the only person involved. 263 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:43,143 - She didn't even mention her stepbrother being there. 264 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:45,612 - If she's trying to distance herself 265 00:10:45,712 --> 00:10:48,081 from what happened, then it's not surprising 266 00:10:48,181 --> 00:10:51,151 that she would distance herself from him as well, right? 267 00:10:51,217 --> 00:10:53,319 - I couldn't even imagine what it would feel like 268 00:10:53,353 --> 00:10:56,423 to be present while your stepsister's being assaulted. 269 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:57,924 - Well, one thing Josie did say 270 00:10:57,991 --> 00:10:59,859 was that the assailant threatened her family. 271 00:10:59,926 --> 00:11:01,594 - Well, her very wealthy family, 272 00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:04,664 which might be the reason that they were targeted. 273 00:11:04,764 --> 00:11:06,332 - Okay, so what's the next move here, Captain? 274 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:09,035 - Well, I think it's time that we pay the DeWinns a visit. 275 00:11:09,102 --> 00:11:11,538 - And given their high profile, it might not be a bad idea 276 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:12,839 to have an ADA involved. 277 00:11:12,939 --> 00:11:14,374 - I'll call Carisi. 278 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:17,977 NYPD. 279 00:11:18,044 --> 00:11:19,679 We're here to speak with the DeWinns. 280 00:11:19,746 --> 00:11:21,381 - They're expecting you. 281 00:11:21,448 --> 00:11:23,149 - Thank you. 282 00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:24,451 - Thanks. 283 00:11:27,454 --> 00:11:29,456 - Wow. This is something. 284 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:32,525 - Just like the place I grew up in. 285 00:11:32,592 --> 00:11:35,228 - Captain Benson. - Special Victims Unit. 286 00:11:35,261 --> 00:11:36,796 And this is ADA Carisi. 287 00:11:36,896 --> 00:11:38,798 - You said this was something about our children? 288 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:41,201 - This is an ongoing investigation. 289 00:11:41,267 --> 00:11:42,769 - Mom, what's going on? 290 00:11:42,836 --> 00:11:45,572 - Atlas, go to your room. We need to talk to the police. 291 00:11:45,638 --> 00:11:46,773 - What about? 292 00:11:46,806 --> 00:11:48,408 - Just go, honey. 293 00:11:48,475 --> 00:11:51,244 Your dad and I need to have a conversation in private. 294 00:11:58,084 --> 00:11:59,919 - Oh, my God. - Who is that man? 295 00:11:59,986 --> 00:12:01,788 - We were hoping that you could tell us. 296 00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:03,189 - Yeah. Take a look at his face. 297 00:12:03,256 --> 00:12:04,858 Do you recognize him? 298 00:12:04,924 --> 00:12:06,793 Maybe he's a disgruntled employee? 299 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:08,928 - Maybe it's somebody that you fired. 300 00:12:08,995 --> 00:12:10,697 - Absolutely not. When were these taken? 301 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:12,265 - Yesterday morning. 302 00:12:12,332 --> 00:12:13,400 - You mean my children had 303 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:14,934 a gun pointed at them yesterday? 304 00:12:15,035 --> 00:12:16,636 - I'm assuming from your response 305 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:18,271 that, uh, they didn't tell you. 306 00:12:18,371 --> 00:12:20,106 - No, not a word. - Okay. 307 00:12:20,206 --> 00:12:21,841 So what time did they come home yesterday? 308 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:23,376 - They were here when I got home from work. 309 00:12:23,443 --> 00:12:24,844 - Same as always. 310 00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:26,446 - And you didn't notice any change in their demeanor? 311 00:12:26,546 --> 00:12:27,947 - No, nothing. 312 00:12:27,981 --> 00:12:29,416 - I mean, they were a little quiet at dinner, but-- 313 00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:30,417 - Well, they're teenagers. 314 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:31,818 - What the hell happened to them? 315 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:33,386 - That's what we're trying to find out. 316 00:12:33,453 --> 00:12:35,388 - They were obviously taken against their will. 317 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:37,490 - Okay. Have you been contacted by anyone? 318 00:12:37,557 --> 00:12:38,925 Gotten any kind of ransom? 319 00:12:38,992 --> 00:12:41,461 - Did somebody tell you not to speak with the police? 320 00:12:41,561 --> 00:12:42,562 - No, no. 321 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:43,863 - I have to talk to Atlas. 322 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:45,231 - Where's Josie? 323 00:12:45,298 --> 00:12:46,633 - She went for a walk. 324 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:48,001 - Are you kidding me? 325 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:49,836 I'm calling my head of security--he's ex-Mossad. 326 00:12:49,936 --> 00:12:51,638 - Mr. and Mrs. DeWinn, I understand 327 00:12:51,705 --> 00:12:53,006 how traumatizing this can be, 328 00:12:53,106 --> 00:12:55,008 but you need to let us handle it from here. 329 00:12:55,075 --> 00:12:56,476 - What are you gonna do? 330 00:12:56,576 --> 00:12:58,278 - Well, the first thing we need to do is talk to Atlas. 331 00:12:58,378 --> 00:12:59,412 - What about Josie? 332 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:01,381 Don't you want to wait until she gets back? 333 00:13:01,448 --> 00:13:03,249 - Two of my detectives already spoke with her. 334 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:05,785 - What? You--you talked to our daughter without us? 335 00:13:05,852 --> 00:13:07,520 - And what did she say? 336 00:13:07,554 --> 00:13:08,922 - I'm sure that she'll tell you. 337 00:13:08,988 --> 00:13:10,623 - But she is 18 years old. 338 00:13:10,724 --> 00:13:12,859 - And we have to respect her privacy. 339 00:13:12,926 --> 00:13:15,028 So right now what would be most helpful 340 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:19,399 is if you and Atlas came with us down to the station. 341 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:23,436 - Take us through your day. 342 00:13:23,536 --> 00:13:24,871 - Yeah, I woke up. 343 00:13:24,938 --> 00:13:26,639 Josie was in her bathroom getting ready, 344 00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:28,241 and then I made us both some toast. 345 00:13:28,274 --> 00:13:30,043 And then we went to school. 346 00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:32,145 - You guys take the same route every day? 347 00:13:32,245 --> 00:13:35,081 - We usually walk up West End. Why? 348 00:13:35,148 --> 00:13:37,684 - Because people like this sometimes observe their targets 349 00:13:37,751 --> 00:13:39,219 a few days in advance. 350 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:41,888 - The apartment was a sublet on the path you walk to school. 351 00:13:41,988 --> 00:13:43,857 - You think he planned this? 352 00:13:43,890 --> 00:13:45,658 - You ever see this guy before? 353 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:47,093 - No. 354 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,496 - Maybe he was following you, watching you. 355 00:13:49,562 --> 00:13:50,764 - No. 356 00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:54,768 Like I said... 357 00:13:54,868 --> 00:13:57,037 never seen that guy before. 358 00:13:57,103 --> 00:13:59,773 - Then maybe someone hired him? - Why do you say that? 359 00:13:59,873 --> 00:14:03,576 - We're exploring all possibilities. 360 00:14:03,643 --> 00:14:05,712 Here. 361 00:14:05,779 --> 00:14:07,681 - What's this for? - A list. 362 00:14:07,781 --> 00:14:09,716 Anyone who might want to hurt your family. 363 00:14:09,783 --> 00:14:11,418 I'm the CEO 364 00:14:11,451 --> 00:14:13,953 of a publicly traded insurance company 365 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:16,856 who's been cost-cutting in flood and fire regions 366 00:14:16,956 --> 00:14:19,059 for the past year. 367 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,394 I'm gonna need a thicker pad. 368 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:26,066 - So Josie is Gordon's daughter, 369 00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,534 and Atlas is--is your son? 370 00:14:27,634 --> 00:14:29,035 Yes, but, uh... 371 00:14:29,069 --> 00:14:30,937 Gordon and I met when they were toddlers. 372 00:14:31,037 --> 00:14:33,139 We married soon after, so... 373 00:14:33,239 --> 00:14:35,542 um, Atlas and Josie were raised as brother and sister. 374 00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:37,544 - Okay. And how did you two meet? 375 00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:40,780 - Well, it's, uh-- it's a bit of an awkward story. 376 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,350 We worked together. 377 00:14:43,450 --> 00:14:45,852 We were each married to other people. 378 00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:48,355 But, uh, we both had small children. 379 00:14:48,388 --> 00:14:51,257 But what we had was undeniable, and we fell in love. 380 00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:54,227 - So you both had to go through divorces to be together? 381 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:56,596 - I'm not proud of it, but, yes. 382 00:14:56,696 --> 00:14:58,264 - And if you don't mind my asking, 383 00:14:58,331 --> 00:15:01,267 how are your relationships with your ex-spouses? 384 00:15:01,368 --> 00:15:03,636 - Gordon and his ex-wife get along swimmingly. 385 00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:05,171 - And your ex-husband? 386 00:15:05,205 --> 00:15:06,873 - Derek lives in the Bahamas. 387 00:15:06,973 --> 00:15:10,710 He runs a-a boat-rental place there for tourists. 388 00:15:10,810 --> 00:15:12,846 We don't talk very much. 389 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:16,249 - Is there any residual bad feeling or... 390 00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:18,318 - Um... 391 00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:20,353 well, now that you mention it, 392 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:23,423 Atlas is about to go off to college. 393 00:15:23,523 --> 00:15:25,692 Gordon and I came to an agreement that it would be 394 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:28,261 the right time for me to stop paying his alimony. 395 00:15:28,361 --> 00:15:29,562 - Okay. 396 00:15:29,629 --> 00:15:32,665 I mean, you don't think that your ex-husband is capable 397 00:15:32,699 --> 00:15:34,267 of doing something like this? 398 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:38,938 - Hurt Josie because he's about to be cut off? 399 00:15:39,005 --> 00:15:41,408 I-I don't know what to think. 400 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:44,344 - So yesterday morning when the guy approached you... 401 00:15:44,411 --> 00:15:47,881 - Yeah, we walked by the front door of this place, 402 00:15:47,947 --> 00:15:50,116 and he was just kind of leaning there. 403 00:15:50,183 --> 00:15:52,652 - Then what? - He showed us his gun. 404 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,187 Josie gasped. 405 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:56,923 Next thing I knew, he was just pushing her inside. 406 00:15:56,990 --> 00:15:58,158 - And you followed? 407 00:15:58,258 --> 00:16:00,927 - Yeah. I wasn't gonna leave her alone. 408 00:16:00,994 --> 00:16:03,029 - That was brave. 409 00:16:03,063 --> 00:16:05,398 - Yeah, he saw that I was behind him following. 410 00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:07,233 I think it kind of pissed him off. 411 00:16:07,267 --> 00:16:08,535 - Why do you say that? 412 00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:12,172 - Because he made me get in the elevator, too. 413 00:16:12,272 --> 00:16:13,173 - Okay. 414 00:16:13,239 --> 00:16:15,008 What happened in the room? 415 00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:24,050 - After he closed the door... 416 00:16:24,117 --> 00:16:26,720 he put me in the bathroom... 417 00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:28,722 and he told me that if I came out, 418 00:16:28,755 --> 00:16:30,223 he was gonna kill Josie. 419 00:16:30,323 --> 00:16:32,325 - You stay in there the whole time? 420 00:16:36,029 --> 00:16:39,065 Yeah, and I could hear Josie crying. 421 00:16:39,132 --> 00:16:42,435 - Once he let you guys go, did he say anything? 422 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:44,137 No. 423 00:16:44,237 --> 00:16:47,140 We just went to school, acted like nothing happened. 424 00:16:47,207 --> 00:16:49,943 I guess we were in shock. 425 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:52,012 - You guys talk about calling the police 426 00:16:52,045 --> 00:16:53,513 or telling your parents? 427 00:16:53,613 --> 00:16:55,749 - I brought it up, but Josie didn't want to. 428 00:16:55,815 --> 00:16:57,117 Uh, the guy with the gun-- 429 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:59,552 he said that he would hurt our family if we did. 430 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:03,923 - So have you connected with Josie yet? 431 00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:07,494 - No, I-I left her messages, but she hasn't called me back. 432 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,996 - And this may be a difficult question, 433 00:17:10,063 --> 00:17:12,098 but is there anyone 434 00:17:12,165 --> 00:17:14,801 that you can think of in Josie's life 435 00:17:14,901 --> 00:17:16,269 that has a criminal history? 436 00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:19,272 - No, absolutely not. She's a straight-A student. 437 00:17:19,339 --> 00:17:21,107 She's valedictorian of her class. 438 00:17:21,174 --> 00:17:22,942 She's going off to Stanford next year. 439 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,778 - And Atlas--what about him? 440 00:17:24,878 --> 00:17:27,013 Wel-- 441 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,948 Josie and Atlas are best friends, 442 00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:30,050 but they're very different. 443 00:17:30,116 --> 00:17:31,951 - How so? 444 00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:34,521 - Atlas takes after his father. 445 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:37,223 Um, we had to make a donation to Hudson's endowment 446 00:17:37,290 --> 00:17:39,492 for Atlas to even be considered, so-- 447 00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:41,695 He's--he's still finding his way. 448 00:17:41,761 --> 00:17:43,063 - I understand. 449 00:17:44,397 --> 00:17:46,299 - Oh, maybe that's Josie. 450 00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:52,005 It's, um--it's a text with a video attachment 451 00:17:52,038 --> 00:17:54,140 from a number I don't recognize. 452 00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:56,376 - Why don't you go ahead and press play? 453 00:17:56,443 --> 00:17:59,713 - I'm--I'm scared. - Okay. All right. 454 00:17:59,779 --> 00:18:01,247 - Kiss. 455 00:18:02,982 --> 00:18:05,485 - I said, kiss! 456 00:18:05,552 --> 00:18:08,521 On the lips, now. Come on. 457 00:18:10,990 --> 00:18:12,792 Now strip. 458 00:18:12,892 --> 00:18:15,795 Come on, take these pants off, your shoes, your shirt. 459 00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:17,630 Come on! - Oh, my God! 460 00:18:17,731 --> 00:18:20,133 - You're taking too long. 461 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,235 Now put this on. 462 00:18:22,302 --> 00:18:24,170 - He made them have sex? 463 00:18:24,237 --> 00:18:27,974 Is this even real? - I don't--I'm not-- 464 00:18:28,041 --> 00:18:29,709 - Oh, my-- - I'm so sorry. 465 00:18:29,776 --> 00:18:31,578 I'm so sorry, Natalie. 466 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:39,686 - So these two kids, brother and sister-- 467 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:42,889 they're forced at gunpoint to have sex with each other? 468 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:44,357 - Yes, and I was with the mother 469 00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,393 when she received the video. - Was there a ransom demand? 470 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,795 - No, but just sending it is an obvious threat of exposure. 471 00:18:48,862 --> 00:18:51,398 - Which explains why the son wasn't completely forthcoming. 472 00:18:51,431 --> 00:18:53,500 - And the daughter's unwillingness to cooperate. 473 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,503 - So they were protecting each other from the shame 474 00:18:56,536 --> 00:18:58,705 and protecting the parents from the truth. 475 00:18:58,772 --> 00:19:00,073 - Where are we on suspects? 476 00:19:00,173 --> 00:19:01,941 - The father runs a multinational 477 00:19:02,042 --> 00:19:03,343 home-insurance conglomerate, 478 00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:05,578 and he sent a list of recent complaints 479 00:19:05,645 --> 00:19:07,180 about denied claims. 480 00:19:09,349 --> 00:19:11,484 - Does this seem like the work 481 00:19:11,551 --> 00:19:13,486 of an irate insurance customer to you? 482 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,121 - I mean, there's so much anger 483 00:19:15,221 --> 00:19:17,323 around Corporate America these days. 484 00:19:17,424 --> 00:19:19,759 - Or it's deeply personal. 485 00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:22,529 I mean, the wife mentioned an ex-husband 486 00:19:22,562 --> 00:19:24,898 who's about to get his alimony cut off. 487 00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:26,332 - Seems personal to me. 488 00:19:26,366 --> 00:19:28,401 - We think this guy is sick enough 489 00:19:28,468 --> 00:19:30,537 to have his own son be collateral damage? 490 00:19:30,637 --> 00:19:32,706 - Well, it's not just about alimony. 491 00:19:32,806 --> 00:19:35,275 Natalie left him for the guy she had an affair with. 492 00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:36,643 - So run his record. 493 00:19:36,676 --> 00:19:38,845 And then call him and tell him that something 494 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:41,247 happened to his son and we need to talk to him. 495 00:19:41,281 --> 00:19:43,450 - If he says no, that'll tell us a lot. 496 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:46,119 - And in the meantime, we need to re-interview these kids. 497 00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:48,988 I mean, maybe now that they don't have to hide their shame, 498 00:19:49,089 --> 00:19:51,291 they'd be willing to unburden themselves. 499 00:19:53,159 --> 00:19:55,362 - IDs. - We're NYPD. 500 00:19:55,428 --> 00:19:56,596 - We're here to see the family. 501 00:19:56,663 --> 00:19:58,298 - Not without showing your ID, you're not. 502 00:19:58,365 --> 00:19:59,666 - Want to see my ID? 503 00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:01,901 How's this? That good enough for you? 504 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:06,840 - Mrs. DeWinn. 505 00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:08,975 - Are you any closer to finding who did this? 506 00:20:09,009 --> 00:20:10,744 - We are doing our best. 507 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:13,179 - But we do need to talk to your kids again. 508 00:20:13,246 --> 00:20:14,647 They're upstairs. 509 00:20:14,714 --> 00:20:16,716 They haven't come out of their rooms. 510 00:20:16,783 --> 00:20:19,486 - We won't take up any more time than we have to. 511 00:20:21,588 --> 00:20:23,256 - Why would they send that video to my mother? 512 00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:24,991 My father thinks they want money. 513 00:20:25,058 --> 00:20:26,326 - Well, we don't know that yet. 514 00:20:26,459 --> 00:20:28,194 They still haven't made any demands. 515 00:20:28,294 --> 00:20:30,463 - If they release that video, my life, 516 00:20:30,530 --> 00:20:32,265 Atlas's life would be over. 517 00:20:32,332 --> 00:20:34,034 - We're gonna do everything we can 518 00:20:34,167 --> 00:20:35,669 to prevent that from happening. 519 00:20:35,735 --> 00:20:38,872 How are things between you and Atlas? 520 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:40,407 - He's hiding in his room. 521 00:20:44,778 --> 00:20:47,881 My father hasn't even been able to look at me. 522 00:20:47,914 --> 00:20:50,483 My mother barely can. 523 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,219 - Josie, none of this is your fault, okay? 524 00:20:53,286 --> 00:20:55,989 None of it. 525 00:20:56,056 --> 00:20:58,024 Come. Come sit down. 526 00:21:01,194 --> 00:21:04,464 Look, I know how hard this is. 527 00:21:04,531 --> 00:21:06,599 But can you please try to walk us through 528 00:21:06,633 --> 00:21:08,635 what happened in that apartment? 529 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:17,310 - The guy pointed a gun at us... 530 00:21:17,377 --> 00:21:19,012 made us kiss... 531 00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:25,051 Threw a condom at Atlas, told us to get naked. 532 00:21:25,185 --> 00:21:27,787 Um... 533 00:21:27,854 --> 00:21:31,124 I looked over at my brother. I saw the look on his face. 534 00:21:31,257 --> 00:21:32,859 I told the guy I would have sex with him 535 00:21:32,926 --> 00:21:34,361 if he just left Atlas alone. 536 00:21:34,427 --> 00:21:36,663 - You were just trying to protect your little brother. 537 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:38,732 - We were trying to protect each other. 538 00:21:42,135 --> 00:21:44,037 In the end, it happened anyway. 539 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:46,039 - Josie... 540 00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:47,907 you were raped. 541 00:21:47,941 --> 00:21:51,144 And so was Atlas. 542 00:21:51,211 --> 00:21:54,147 - We were? - Yes. 543 00:21:54,247 --> 00:21:56,182 And when we catch this guy-- and we will-- 544 00:21:56,249 --> 00:21:58,418 he's gonna go down for kidnapping, 545 00:21:58,551 --> 00:22:00,620 unlawful imprisonment, and rape one. 546 00:22:06,393 --> 00:22:08,194 - You weren't locked in that bathroom, 547 00:22:08,261 --> 00:22:10,163 were you, Atlas? 548 00:22:10,263 --> 00:22:12,365 - No. 549 00:22:12,432 --> 00:22:14,501 I'm sorry I lied. - We understand why you did. 550 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:15,835 But now that we know the truth, 551 00:22:15,869 --> 00:22:17,604 why don't you tell us what actually happened? 552 00:22:17,737 --> 00:22:19,406 - Because we're really trying to catch this guy, 553 00:22:19,539 --> 00:22:21,207 and we're not gonna be able to do it 554 00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:23,677 without the full cooperation of you and Josie. 555 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:25,812 - Is she talking to detectives, too? 556 00:22:25,879 --> 00:22:29,182 - Yeah. They're in her room right now. 557 00:22:29,249 --> 00:22:31,151 - Well, is-- 558 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:34,087 is she mad at me for--for doing it? 559 00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:38,792 - No, you had a gun pointed at your head. 560 00:22:38,825 --> 00:22:42,295 - You know she offered to sleep with that guy instead of me 561 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:44,164 so that we didn't have to do it together? 562 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:47,400 But for some reason, he... 563 00:22:47,434 --> 00:22:49,336 he wanted us to do it. 564 00:22:49,469 --> 00:22:51,271 - That obviously was part of the plan. 565 00:22:51,338 --> 00:22:52,872 There was nothing you could do. 566 00:22:52,906 --> 00:22:56,476 Well, I'm pissed at myself. 567 00:22:56,543 --> 00:22:59,612 - For what? - Because... 568 00:23:02,082 --> 00:23:04,951 I shouldn't have-- 569 00:23:05,018 --> 00:23:08,221 I shouldn't have even been able to get, you know... 570 00:23:08,321 --> 00:23:10,390 hard. 571 00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:13,326 - Your body's response is not a sign of consent. 572 00:23:13,460 --> 00:23:15,628 - It's a reflex, not a choice. 573 00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:24,738 - Were they able to tell you anything? 574 00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:26,506 - Unfortunately, not anything that helps us 575 00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:28,341 get closer to finding out who did this. 576 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:30,377 We just got a ransom demand. 577 00:23:30,443 --> 00:23:32,112 - How much? 578 00:23:32,212 --> 00:23:33,680 - $5 million. 579 00:23:33,747 --> 00:23:35,281 - Did they tell you how to pay it? 580 00:23:35,382 --> 00:23:36,449 - Not yet. 581 00:23:36,516 --> 00:23:38,284 - Derek Rhodes just landed in Newark. 582 00:23:38,351 --> 00:23:40,186 - What's your ex-husband doing here? 583 00:23:40,286 --> 00:23:42,355 - I-I didn't call him. - We did. 584 00:23:42,489 --> 00:23:44,024 - Why? - We checked his record. 585 00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:46,393 He had an arrest in the Bahamas a couple of years ago. 586 00:23:46,459 --> 00:23:48,094 - What for? 587 00:23:48,161 --> 00:23:49,496 - Exploitation of a minor. 588 00:23:49,629 --> 00:23:50,797 - You think he had something to do 589 00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:52,699 with our children being targeted? 590 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,934 - Unfortunately, we're unable to discuss it right now. 591 00:23:54,968 --> 00:23:57,170 - But he earned himself a police escort 592 00:23:57,270 --> 00:23:58,872 from the airport. 593 00:24:10,483 --> 00:24:11,885 - I've never seen that man before in my life. 594 00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:13,720 You think that I hired him? 595 00:24:13,787 --> 00:24:15,689 - Did you? - To kidnap my own son? 596 00:24:15,722 --> 00:24:19,092 - It wasn't a straight kidnapping, Mr. Rhodes. 597 00:24:19,125 --> 00:24:20,860 - What are you talking about? 598 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:23,763 - Your son and his stepsister were sexually assaulted. 599 00:24:31,004 --> 00:24:34,140 "Sexually assaulted"? 600 00:24:34,274 --> 00:24:37,010 Atlas? 601 00:24:37,077 --> 00:24:39,746 By that guy in the elevator? - Not exactly. 602 00:24:39,813 --> 00:24:41,748 - There's no easy way to say this, 603 00:24:41,781 --> 00:24:44,184 but they were forced to have sex with each other 604 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:45,352 at gunpoint. 605 00:24:45,385 --> 00:24:46,953 - And it was filmed. 606 00:24:51,391 --> 00:24:53,560 - But then again... 607 00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:55,095 maybe you knew that. 608 00:24:55,195 --> 00:24:57,030 - You think that I had something to do with this? 609 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:59,399 - Let's start by asking you about the arrest you had 610 00:24:59,432 --> 00:25:00,867 in the Bahamas two years ago. 611 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:02,836 - We checked your record. The arrest was voided. 612 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,237 But it is the Bahamas, so-- 613 00:25:04,337 --> 00:25:07,507 so why don't you break it down for us? 614 00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:09,042 - I really can't. 615 00:25:09,109 --> 00:25:11,711 - Well, from the cops that we talked to in Nassau, 616 00:25:11,745 --> 00:25:13,480 it sounds like it had something to do 617 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:15,515 with underage photos in your phone. 618 00:25:15,582 --> 00:25:17,350 - The clerk at the electronics store 619 00:25:17,417 --> 00:25:19,085 called the cops on you, huh? 620 00:25:19,152 --> 00:25:22,455 - They found about 100 photos of Josie in a bikini. 621 00:25:22,489 --> 00:25:24,524 - Locked away in your hidden folder. 622 00:25:24,624 --> 00:25:26,459 - And that was a few years ago, too. 623 00:25:26,526 --> 00:25:27,660 - Oh, yeah. 624 00:25:27,727 --> 00:25:29,696 She was only 16 years old, man. 625 00:25:29,729 --> 00:25:32,365 - Okay. Okay, okay. 626 00:25:32,432 --> 00:25:33,933 I know how this looks. 627 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,336 I'm going to tell you the exact same thing 628 00:25:36,369 --> 00:25:38,571 that I told the cops in the Bahamas. 629 00:25:38,638 --> 00:25:40,674 - We're listening. 630 00:25:40,774 --> 00:25:43,677 - Atlas always spends the summers at my house, 631 00:25:43,743 --> 00:25:47,113 and that year he asked if he could bring Josie. 632 00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:49,649 I asked Gordon and Natalie. They were fine with it. 633 00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:53,386 And those two kids are inseparable. 634 00:25:53,453 --> 00:25:56,723 - So you took photos of the vacation. 635 00:25:56,823 --> 00:25:59,059 - Just pictures of Josie, not your son? 636 00:25:59,092 --> 00:26:01,494 - And putting them in a hidden folder? 637 00:26:01,528 --> 00:26:03,763 - Okay, look, at the end of the vacation, 638 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:06,399 Atlas dropped his phone from my second-story balcony, 639 00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:08,201 and it stopped working. 640 00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:09,536 He had his mom's credit card, 641 00:26:09,602 --> 00:26:12,405 so he bought himself a new phone. 642 00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:14,074 After they went home-- 643 00:26:14,174 --> 00:26:16,576 I probably should have asked Atlas, but I didn't-- 644 00:26:16,643 --> 00:26:18,411 I brought the phone to the electronics store 645 00:26:18,478 --> 00:26:20,046 to see if they could fix it. 646 00:26:20,113 --> 00:26:21,715 And they got it working. 647 00:26:21,748 --> 00:26:23,116 I gave them his PIN. 648 00:26:23,183 --> 00:26:25,218 And the next thing I know, the cops are in the store 649 00:26:25,285 --> 00:26:26,753 questioning me. 650 00:26:26,786 --> 00:26:29,155 - So what you're saying is, you didn't take those photos, 651 00:26:29,189 --> 00:26:30,323 Atlas did? 652 00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:35,795 - Yes. 653 00:26:38,565 --> 00:26:40,400 - Why would he hide them? 654 00:26:42,369 --> 00:26:44,004 - Well, I asked him, and he said 655 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,072 that because they were mostly bikini shots, 656 00:26:46,106 --> 00:26:48,074 he didn't want to embarrass her. 657 00:26:51,511 --> 00:26:52,746 - You buy this guy's story? 658 00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:54,080 - It's a pretty convoluted excuse. 659 00:26:54,147 --> 00:26:55,882 - Trying to lay it all off on his son? 660 00:26:55,949 --> 00:26:57,751 - Do we really think that a father 661 00:26:57,817 --> 00:27:00,687 would hire a guy to force his own son 662 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,589 to have sex with his stepsister? 663 00:27:02,655 --> 00:27:04,691 - Well, if he wanted a $5 million alimony payment 664 00:27:04,758 --> 00:27:06,159 in one lump sum... 665 00:27:06,226 --> 00:27:08,128 - Did TARU get anything on the phone number 666 00:27:08,261 --> 00:27:10,530 that the video and the ransom note were texted from? 667 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:12,232 - They say they're still working on it. 668 00:27:12,332 --> 00:27:13,933 - We need something concrete to connect Derek to. 669 00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:15,435 What about the credit card 670 00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:16,803 that was used for the apartment? 671 00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:18,538 - We're still waiting on the security footage 672 00:27:18,605 --> 00:27:20,740 from the gas station in Houston where it was supposedly stolen. 673 00:27:20,874 --> 00:27:22,709 - All right, so, in the meantime, we talk to Atlas. 674 00:27:22,742 --> 00:27:24,444 We see if he can confirm Derek's story. 675 00:27:24,577 --> 00:27:26,479 - Or maybe Atlas doesn't want to incriminate 676 00:27:26,546 --> 00:27:28,448 his biological father. 677 00:27:28,481 --> 00:27:30,350 Talk to Josie, away from her family, 678 00:27:30,417 --> 00:27:33,453 and find out if the father was inappropriate with her 679 00:27:33,553 --> 00:27:35,088 that summer. 680 00:27:37,023 --> 00:27:38,725 - Yeah, I remember that vacation. 681 00:27:38,758 --> 00:27:41,027 Atlas and I had a great time.- Okay. 682 00:27:41,094 --> 00:27:43,296 How'd you get along with Atlas's father? 683 00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,198 - Derek? He's really cool. 684 00:27:45,265 --> 00:27:47,534 - Did you have any one-on-one time with him? 685 00:27:47,567 --> 00:27:48,535 - Sometimes. 686 00:27:48,601 --> 00:27:49,703 Atlas always slept in 687 00:27:49,803 --> 00:27:51,438 because he was playing that stupid game. 688 00:27:51,471 --> 00:27:53,006 - What game? - "Rainbow Six." 689 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,742 - It's a tactical team-based war game. 690 00:27:55,809 --> 00:27:58,978 What did you and Derek do while Atlas was sleeping? 691 00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:01,681 - Take walks down to the beach. 692 00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:04,050 Why are you asking? - Well... 693 00:28:05,919 --> 00:28:07,721 Did you know that Derek was arrested 694 00:28:07,787 --> 00:28:10,357 at the end of the summer after you and Atlas flew home? 695 00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:12,692 - No. - He didn't tell you? 696 00:28:12,792 --> 00:28:14,427 - No. And we talk about everything. 697 00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:15,829 What was he arrested for? 698 00:28:15,895 --> 00:28:18,064 - He had photos of you on a phone. 699 00:28:18,198 --> 00:28:21,201 - Nothing too revealing-- it was mostly bikini shots. 700 00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:23,503 - I was in a bikini 24-7. 701 00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:25,905 - Well, they were in a hidden folder. 702 00:28:25,939 --> 00:28:27,941 - He was arrested for photos of me? 703 00:28:27,974 --> 00:28:31,811 - Yeah, it's called exploitation of a minor. 704 00:28:31,845 --> 00:28:36,316 - Do you remember any of these being taken? 705 00:28:36,383 --> 00:28:37,417 - No. 706 00:28:37,517 --> 00:28:39,119 Did Atlas's dad really take these? 707 00:28:39,152 --> 00:28:40,954 - Well, that's what we're trying to figure out. 708 00:28:40,987 --> 00:28:42,756 - Derek said that Atlas took the photos. 709 00:28:42,856 --> 00:28:44,758 - Why would Atlas need to hide the fact 710 00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:46,993 he's taking photos of me? 711 00:28:47,027 --> 00:28:49,562 - Silva, we got footage from the gas station in Houston. 712 00:28:49,662 --> 00:28:51,965 - What gas station in Houston? 713 00:28:51,998 --> 00:28:54,000 - It's just a lead that we're following up on. 714 00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:56,970 - We'll let you and your family know if it leads anywhere. 715 00:28:57,037 --> 00:28:58,705 - Okay. 716 00:28:58,738 --> 00:29:00,607 - The woman whose credit card was stolen. 717 00:29:00,674 --> 00:29:01,875 - Virginia Hefferman. 718 00:29:01,941 --> 00:29:03,977 This is the last date and time she used it. 719 00:29:04,044 --> 00:29:06,980 We ID'd the cashier, Jaden Thomas. 720 00:29:07,047 --> 00:29:09,215 Fast forward to the end of the shift. 721 00:29:09,282 --> 00:29:10,383 - Yeah. 722 00:29:12,886 --> 00:29:14,220 - What's he doing? 723 00:29:14,287 --> 00:29:16,222 - He's grabbing a skimmer off a legitimate card reader. 724 00:29:16,289 --> 00:29:18,124 - It allows criminals to copy details 725 00:29:18,191 --> 00:29:19,993 off of credit cards and use them later. 726 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:21,094 - It explains why this woman 727 00:29:21,127 --> 00:29:22,796 didn't clock it till afterwards. 728 00:29:22,862 --> 00:29:24,831 - We got to extradite this guy from Houston. 729 00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:27,067 - Hold on. How sure are that this is the same guy 730 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,735 from the elevator footage? 731 00:29:28,802 --> 00:29:31,137 Can we do a side-by-side? - Yeah. 732 00:29:32,972 --> 00:29:36,443 - Carisi, that is the same guy. 733 00:29:36,509 --> 00:29:38,311 Should we notify Houston PD? 734 00:29:38,378 --> 00:29:40,280 No. I'll alert the DA. 735 00:29:40,313 --> 00:29:41,147 Get an arrest warrant. 736 00:29:41,214 --> 00:29:42,582 We'll start working on transport. 737 00:29:42,716 --> 00:29:43,683 - Josie. 738 00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:45,352 Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 739 00:29:45,385 --> 00:29:47,654 Slow down. 740 00:29:47,754 --> 00:29:50,056 Okay. No, we'll--we'll be right there. 741 00:29:50,156 --> 00:29:51,491 - What? What is that about? 742 00:29:51,558 --> 00:29:52,792 - Josie says that she told Atlas 743 00:29:52,859 --> 00:29:54,861 that we were talking to her about his father. 744 00:29:54,928 --> 00:29:56,830 He grabbed a baseball bat, went to his father's hotel, 745 00:29:56,863 --> 00:29:58,164 and he threatened to kill him. 746 00:29:58,198 --> 00:30:00,633 - All right, you two get to the hotel immediately. 747 00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:02,669 When you spoke to Josie, 748 00:30:02,769 --> 00:30:04,604 did she incriminate Atlas's father? 749 00:30:04,637 --> 00:30:07,507 - No, not at all. I mean, she said that he was cool. 750 00:30:07,574 --> 00:30:09,142 - She said that she didn't remember 751 00:30:09,209 --> 00:30:10,643 anyone taking photos of her. 752 00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:12,545 - Well, obviously, somebody did. 753 00:30:17,083 --> 00:30:18,785 - What did you do? - That one. 754 00:30:18,852 --> 00:30:20,954 - You went after my sister, you pervert! 755 00:30:21,054 --> 00:30:22,722 What, are you crazy? 756 00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:24,391 - Hey, drop it! - Put it down! 757 00:30:24,424 --> 00:30:25,658 - Drop it! 758 00:30:25,692 --> 00:30:27,193 He's the one that hurt us! 759 00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:28,895 - No, wait. Please don't hurt him. 760 00:30:28,928 --> 00:30:30,363 My son has been through so much. 761 00:30:30,463 --> 00:30:31,564 - Call a bus! 762 00:30:31,631 --> 00:30:33,166 - You're under arrest. - For what? 763 00:30:33,266 --> 00:30:35,068 - Assault, and if you're lucky, that's all it is. 764 00:30:35,168 --> 00:30:37,237 - A metal bat like this could have easily been a homicide. 765 00:30:37,303 --> 00:30:38,705 - Come on! 766 00:30:41,141 --> 00:30:43,843 - I never should have said anything--Atlas got so angry. 767 00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:45,578 - So what did he say exactly? 768 00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:48,048 - He said he was gonna kill his father. 769 00:30:48,081 --> 00:30:50,083 - Because he took photos of you? 770 00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:52,152 - Atlas has always been protective of me. 771 00:30:52,185 --> 00:30:53,553 - How? 772 00:30:53,586 --> 00:30:55,655 - Like, at school during lunch, he always sits next to me. 773 00:30:55,722 --> 00:30:57,857 He says he wants to keep the guys in line. 774 00:30:57,924 --> 00:31:00,126 Normal brother stuff, you know? 775 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,663 Have you guys talked about what happened? 776 00:31:03,763 --> 00:31:05,899 - No, I tried. 777 00:31:09,402 --> 00:31:12,339 I don't know if it'll ever be the same. 778 00:31:14,908 --> 00:31:16,810 I'm so sorry. 779 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:20,013 Oh, you know, I wanted to ask you about that trip 780 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,449 that you guys took to the Bahamas. 781 00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:26,619 Do you remember Atlas dropping his phone from the balcony? 782 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,355 - Yeah. 783 00:31:28,421 --> 00:31:30,590 He had to buy a new one. 784 00:31:34,561 --> 00:31:36,262 - Okay. 785 00:31:36,296 --> 00:31:38,832 - He said that Atlas has been arrested? 786 00:31:38,865 --> 00:31:41,034 - It's just a formality, all right? 787 00:31:41,101 --> 00:31:43,303 I mean, he did assault his father. 788 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:45,338 - Because that pervert did this to my daughter. 789 00:31:45,438 --> 00:31:47,140 - We're talking to Derek, building a case. 790 00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,109 - Look, what we really need to do is-- 791 00:31:49,142 --> 00:31:51,478 is look in Atlas's room. - Look for what? 792 00:31:51,544 --> 00:31:54,114 - Something that may incriminate his father. 793 00:32:06,826 --> 00:32:09,062 Hey, Carisi. 794 00:32:09,162 --> 00:32:11,064 Look at that. - That's pretty retro. 795 00:32:11,131 --> 00:32:12,866 - Yeah, except it's one of those new ones. 796 00:32:12,966 --> 00:32:14,334 It's digital. 797 00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:16,870 I mean, maybe he didn't want photos on his phone anymore. 798 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:18,805 - Is it charged? - Nope. 799 00:32:18,872 --> 00:32:20,407 But he could have printed out some photos. 800 00:32:20,507 --> 00:32:22,509 - Well, if he did, I doubt he left them out in the open. 801 00:32:22,575 --> 00:32:25,245 - Like, maybe he hid them? I might know where to look. 802 00:32:25,278 --> 00:32:27,681 I have a 14-year-old son. 803 00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:36,156 Ah, bingo. 804 00:32:39,926 --> 00:32:42,896 Okay. Casual, candid photos. 805 00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,664 Doesn't look like she's posing in any of these. 806 00:32:44,731 --> 00:32:47,233 - Probably didn't know they were being taken at all. 807 00:32:47,267 --> 00:32:49,969 - We need to get a warrant for all his electronics. 808 00:32:50,003 --> 00:32:52,172 - I'll call a judge. 809 00:33:01,514 --> 00:33:02,682 - Hey, Atlas. 810 00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:04,918 How you doing? - I'm fine. 811 00:33:04,984 --> 00:33:07,087 - My son has been at Central Booking all night. 812 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,288 When can we go home? 813 00:33:08,321 --> 00:33:10,223 - Well, we just have a few more questions. 814 00:33:10,323 --> 00:33:13,293 Atlas, why would you do that to your father? 815 00:33:13,326 --> 00:33:15,729 I mean, attacking him with a baseball bat. 816 00:33:15,762 --> 00:33:17,130 - Because he's a perv. 817 00:33:17,197 --> 00:33:18,331 - That might be true, 818 00:33:18,398 --> 00:33:20,266 but right now you're in the hot seat. 819 00:33:20,333 --> 00:33:22,202 You put him in the hospital. - He had 18 stitches. 820 00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:24,304 - After what he did to Josie? 821 00:33:24,404 --> 00:33:26,973 I don't want anything to do with that bastard anymore. 822 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,475 - And neither do I. 823 00:33:28,575 --> 00:33:29,909 - Okay. 824 00:33:29,976 --> 00:33:31,878 So I understand about the photos 825 00:33:31,945 --> 00:33:33,279 that he was arrested for, 826 00:33:33,313 --> 00:33:35,648 but do you-- do you really think 827 00:33:35,715 --> 00:33:37,083 that your father is responsible 828 00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:39,352 for kidnapping you and your sister? 829 00:33:39,452 --> 00:33:41,087 - Who else would it have been? 830 00:33:41,154 --> 00:33:45,058 - Well, just between us, we have a viable suspect. 831 00:33:45,158 --> 00:33:47,460 - Really? - Yeah. 832 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,430 The one in the elevator-- you know, the one with the gun. 833 00:33:50,463 --> 00:33:53,600 - Wait, you arrested him? - You recognize him, right? 834 00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:59,172 - I-I don't think so. 835 00:33:59,239 --> 00:34:00,740 - You don't think so? 836 00:34:00,807 --> 00:34:02,075 - I was scared, okay? 837 00:34:02,142 --> 00:34:03,977 - Are you saying that you don't know him? 838 00:34:04,044 --> 00:34:05,145 - No. 839 00:34:05,245 --> 00:34:06,980 - Well, that's funny. He knows you. 840 00:34:07,047 --> 00:34:10,383 - I mean, he was quite candid with our ADA 841 00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:12,952 on the drive from the airport. 842 00:34:13,019 --> 00:34:14,821 - Atlas, what are they talking about? 843 00:34:14,921 --> 00:34:17,157 - I don't know, Mom. 844 00:34:17,223 --> 00:34:19,492 I swear. 845 00:34:22,095 --> 00:34:23,963 - I think I should call my lawyer. 846 00:34:24,064 --> 00:34:25,432 - I think you should, too. 847 00:34:25,465 --> 00:34:26,900 But in the meantime, why don't you get up, 848 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,502 and you can wait with your son in our interrogation room? 849 00:34:33,173 --> 00:34:35,141 - So that's your story? 850 00:34:35,208 --> 00:34:37,043 That Atlas DeWinn set this whole thing up? 851 00:34:37,110 --> 00:34:38,211 - It's not a story. 852 00:34:38,278 --> 00:34:40,180 - My client's telling you the truth. 853 00:34:40,213 --> 00:34:43,083 - And I got proof-- texts, Discord chats. 854 00:34:43,149 --> 00:34:44,551 - Okay, so what was the plan? 855 00:34:44,651 --> 00:34:46,686 - This all started because he was simpin' 856 00:34:46,786 --> 00:34:48,121 for his own stepsister. 857 00:34:48,188 --> 00:34:49,723 - "Simping"? - Yeah. 858 00:34:49,756 --> 00:34:52,392 He wanted to get with her. - And you know this how? 859 00:34:52,459 --> 00:34:55,095 - Me and Atlas--we go way back. 860 00:34:55,128 --> 00:34:56,529 - But you live in Texas. 861 00:34:56,596 --> 00:34:58,698 He lives in New York. How the hell did you even meet? 862 00:34:58,732 --> 00:35:01,968 - We got a whole squad on "Rainbow Six." 863 00:35:02,035 --> 00:35:04,037 We run ops, do raids. 864 00:35:04,104 --> 00:35:05,271 Been playing this video game 865 00:35:05,338 --> 00:35:07,073 for at least three years together. 866 00:35:07,107 --> 00:35:08,675 - That's how long you've been planning this? 867 00:35:08,775 --> 00:35:09,709 - No. 868 00:35:09,809 --> 00:35:11,144 Only since he found out 869 00:35:11,177 --> 00:35:13,713 his sister was going away to college. 870 00:35:13,747 --> 00:35:16,082 - Well, why would Atlas want you to film it? 871 00:35:16,116 --> 00:35:17,851 - Why do you think? 872 00:35:17,884 --> 00:35:20,787 I assume to watch later. 873 00:35:20,887 --> 00:35:22,622 - Whose idea was the ransom? 874 00:35:24,958 --> 00:35:26,326 - Mine. 875 00:35:26,426 --> 00:35:28,762 Atlas only offered me two grand, 876 00:35:28,862 --> 00:35:31,364 but then I googled how rich his parents were. 877 00:35:31,398 --> 00:35:34,067 And I know all about the legal system, too. 878 00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:36,002 And I'm not about to do hard time 879 00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:37,537 just because I'm poor 880 00:35:37,637 --> 00:35:41,141 and Richie Rich wanted to get all SugarFap with his sister. 881 00:35:41,174 --> 00:35:43,376 - So you're here to cooperate? 882 00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:45,912 - Enthusiastically. 883 00:35:47,547 --> 00:35:49,349 - What are we looking at, Captain? 884 00:35:49,416 --> 00:35:51,818 - We're looking at a fully cooperating witness 885 00:35:51,918 --> 00:35:55,455 to the crimes of kidnapping, rape, and assault. 886 00:35:55,488 --> 00:35:57,524 - Who is also a co-conspirator. 887 00:35:57,624 --> 00:35:59,192 - Who has evidence 888 00:35:59,259 --> 00:36:01,027 that your client was behind this. 889 00:36:01,094 --> 00:36:02,595 He has receipts, texts. 890 00:36:02,662 --> 00:36:04,330 - Which he's willing to give us. 891 00:36:04,397 --> 00:36:05,865 - In exchange for what? 892 00:36:05,932 --> 00:36:08,401 - Avoiding the wood chipper of the American justice system. 893 00:36:08,468 --> 00:36:10,737 - We also have hundreds of photos 894 00:36:10,770 --> 00:36:13,907 that your client took of his sister 895 00:36:13,973 --> 00:36:15,108 without her knowledge. 896 00:36:15,175 --> 00:36:18,311 - On hidden folders in multiple devices. 897 00:36:18,378 --> 00:36:20,747 - Well, then we'll see you in court. 898 00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:23,183 - Atlas, tell them you didn't do this. 899 00:36:23,249 --> 00:36:25,018 - Yeah, tell us, Atlas. 900 00:36:25,085 --> 00:36:27,554 Oh, and while you're at it, 901 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:31,124 can you tell us why these photos of Josie 902 00:36:31,191 --> 00:36:32,859 were hidden under your bed? 903 00:36:32,959 --> 00:36:35,662 Can you tell us that, Atlas, hmm? 904 00:36:39,332 --> 00:36:41,801 - This was all your fault. 905 00:36:41,868 --> 00:36:43,269 - My fault? - Yeah. 906 00:36:43,336 --> 00:36:45,138 Ever since we were little, 907 00:36:45,205 --> 00:36:48,975 you were always talking about how "incandescent" Josie was. 908 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,210 - What? 909 00:36:50,276 --> 00:36:52,579 - Everybody loves her. 910 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,115 She's perfect. - So you wanted to ruin her? 911 00:36:55,215 --> 00:36:56,716 Is that why you raped her? 912 00:36:56,816 --> 00:36:58,918 - No! That is not what it was like! 913 00:36:58,985 --> 00:37:01,755 - So what was it like? 914 00:37:01,855 --> 00:37:04,457 - She was going to leave me. 915 00:37:04,557 --> 00:37:08,228 - Leave you? You mean by going to college? 916 00:37:08,294 --> 00:37:10,196 - She was going to change. 917 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:11,664 - That's it. 918 00:37:11,731 --> 00:37:13,099 Atlas, stop talking. 919 00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:14,567 - No, she's my-- - Stop-- 920 00:37:14,668 --> 00:37:17,337 She is my Josie! 921 00:37:17,404 --> 00:37:18,905 We're stepsiblings. 922 00:37:18,972 --> 00:37:20,340 We're not even related by blood. 923 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,575 - Do you have any idea what you did? 924 00:37:22,642 --> 00:37:24,678 - I had never been with a girl before. 925 00:37:26,646 --> 00:37:28,448 Mom, I love her. 926 00:37:28,548 --> 00:37:31,217 - No, you have destroyed this family! 927 00:37:31,284 --> 00:37:33,353 - No. Why does someone else get to be with her? 928 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:34,988 Why? - Atlas! 929 00:37:35,055 --> 00:37:37,791 - Natalie, it might be a good idea 930 00:37:37,857 --> 00:37:40,160 for you to leave the room. 931 00:37:40,226 --> 00:37:42,162 I'll need some time with my client. 932 00:37:42,262 --> 00:37:43,363 - I know you will. 933 00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:44,731 - Wait, does Josie know? 934 00:37:44,831 --> 00:37:47,567 - Uh, she will. I'll make sure of that. 935 00:37:47,634 --> 00:37:49,836 - No, no, no, no. She's my best friend! 936 00:37:52,872 --> 00:37:54,374 Look, just-- 937 00:37:54,441 --> 00:37:56,643 I need to talk with her. 938 00:37:56,743 --> 00:37:59,779 Just--you can--you can let me explain--explain it. 939 00:37:59,846 --> 00:38:01,247 - Hey, Atlas... 940 00:38:03,817 --> 00:38:05,752 That's not gonna happen. 941 00:38:08,221 --> 00:38:09,689 - But... 942 00:38:09,789 --> 00:38:13,126 do you think I'll be able to hear her voice again? 943 00:38:13,193 --> 00:38:14,761 - You will. 944 00:38:18,832 --> 00:38:20,300 In court. 945 00:38:25,405 --> 00:38:27,107 - Come on. 946 00:38:41,621 --> 00:38:44,357 - What's going to happen to my son? 947 00:38:44,424 --> 00:38:47,227 - He's gonna be arrested and arraigned. 948 00:38:47,293 --> 00:38:48,962 - And if he doesn't take a deal, 949 00:38:49,062 --> 00:38:51,297 this is gonna go to trial. 950 00:38:51,331 --> 00:38:55,335 - My husband is Josie's biological father. 951 00:38:55,435 --> 00:38:57,937 He's already made it clear he doesn't intend to spend 952 00:38:58,004 --> 00:39:00,874 a cent on Atlas's defense. 953 00:39:00,940 --> 00:39:03,009 But... 954 00:39:03,043 --> 00:39:05,145 no matter what he's done, 955 00:39:05,211 --> 00:39:07,180 he's still my son. 956 00:39:07,247 --> 00:39:08,815 I'll pay whatever it takes. 957 00:39:08,915 --> 00:39:11,217 - Hire lawyers, delay the process, 958 00:39:11,251 --> 00:39:13,253 spend as much money as you want. 959 00:39:13,319 --> 00:39:15,588 You're only prolonging the inevitable-- 960 00:39:15,655 --> 00:39:18,692 that your son is going to prison for a long time. 961 00:39:18,792 --> 00:39:21,027 - He won't survive in prison. 962 00:39:22,762 --> 00:39:25,331 - And what about your stepdaughter, Mrs. DeWinn? 963 00:39:28,568 --> 00:39:32,806 Who's gonna tell her the truth about what happened to her? 964 00:39:36,543 --> 00:39:39,646 - I need to worry about my son right now. 965 00:39:49,956 --> 00:39:52,292 - My whole relationship with my brother is a lie. 966 00:39:52,359 --> 00:39:55,462 - You didn't see it, but now you do. 967 00:39:55,528 --> 00:39:59,733 You know, these things-- these things take time to heal. 968 00:39:59,799 --> 00:40:01,768 - What am I gonna do about college in the fall? 969 00:40:01,835 --> 00:40:04,437 No one can answer that for you, Josie. 970 00:40:04,471 --> 00:40:07,374 But you'll-- you'll know when you're ready. 971 00:40:07,407 --> 00:40:10,076 - I can't stay here. 972 00:40:10,143 --> 00:40:12,278 My stepmother--she thinks it's best if we don't talk 973 00:40:12,345 --> 00:40:13,580 until the case is over. 974 00:40:13,646 --> 00:40:15,715 She's hiding in the guest room. 975 00:40:17,717 --> 00:40:19,619 I heard my father crying last night 976 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,721 through the walls of their bedroom. 977 00:40:23,723 --> 00:40:26,659 I have never heard him cry before. 978 00:40:31,731 --> 00:40:33,900 - He loves you. - So did Atlas. 979 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,370 - I don't know that that was love, Josie. 980 00:40:37,404 --> 00:40:40,206 He was obsessed with you. 981 00:40:40,273 --> 00:40:43,176 And there's a difference. 982 00:40:43,209 --> 00:40:44,577 - How did I not know? 983 00:40:44,644 --> 00:40:46,579 - How could you know? 984 00:40:48,548 --> 00:40:52,552 He was your little brother, and all you did... 985 00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:54,921 was love him. 72935

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