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The standoff took place
this morning in front of
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this house, after police
say they responded to
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reports of a shooting...
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...85-year-old,
Janette Becraft
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was killed yesterday
morning at a home.
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You want to say that nothing
in wrestling surprises you...
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The former professional
wrestler is now accused of
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shooting and
killing his wife.
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That's surprising.
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And then, all of a sudden,
the news broke.
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It's Billy Jack.
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He just electrifies the crowd,
and they love him.
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What?
Billy Jack did what?
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I could have believed it,
but I didn't.
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I didn't want to believe it.
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Billy Jack Haynes!
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[Narrator] Years before
this shocking crime,
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Billy Jack Haynes
had lived the dream,
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rising from Oregon's
regional circuit to stardom
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in wrestling's golden age
of the 1980s.
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From Portland,
Oregon...
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Billy Jack Haynes!
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Billy Jack had everything...
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All the tools to be a top
professional wrestler.
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Whoa! Oh, look at the slam!
Billy Jack is strong.
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His career was in reverse.
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He started as a star,
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and he finished as a nobody.
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But Billy Jack's dealings
outside the ring
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hinted at a mysterious life,
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one almost too
extraordinary to believe.
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Billy said he had been
involved in the drug business
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as a collector and enforcer.
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When I was in Portland,
I was about
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a kilo a day
cocaine dealer.
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Billy has made
many, many claims.
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I was contracted to go
down there to kill
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two Arkansas
State Police officers.
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You don't know fact from
fiction with Billy Jack Haynes.
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I kept that secret
from everybody.
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Now, as the former star
faces murder charges,
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those who knew
Billy Jack Haynes
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look back on the road
that led him here.
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So Billy Jack was his
own worst enemy...
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and didn't even know it.
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He was a loaded gun,
brother.
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You never know
what he's thinking.
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You know, a lot of guys fall
hard in wrestling, but...
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he fell harder than most.
Without a doubt.
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?
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?
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[cheering]
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In the wrestling industry,
I guess a lot of people
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may have forgotten
about him.
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I got Oregon blood flowing
through these veins!
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Even the most diehard WWF
fan today would say,
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"Well, yeah, Billy Jack.
He was there."
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Billy Jack reaching down!
That intentional fortitude.
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What did he do?
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People now in the present
day are trying to go back
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because of what's
happened with Billy,
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and trying to figure out,
where did this start?
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We knew one day Billy Jack
would do something crazy.
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But, we never thought
it would be that crazy.
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It shocked me,
and then again, it didn't.
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I don't know if you can
understand that.
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That's one thing where,
when Billy messed up,
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he messed up.
Final mess up.
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I guess if you took
everything and laid it
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on the table, you could
see it coming up.
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Before his recent
murder charge,
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Billy Jack's past
reveals other crimes,
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including two assault
charges before he's 30.
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But the same mean streak that
gets him into trouble also
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creates new opportunities
in the wrestling business.
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Billy Jack Haynes
was a thug.
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He was a street fighter.
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He was a boxer,
a wrestler.
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Tough guy,
don't get me wrong.
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My dad found him as a
gym rat, and he's...
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below that now.
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All his bios say he was
trained by Stu Hart.
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Stu Hart threw him out of
Canada 'cause he was
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too rough and beat
all his boys up.
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So, he was back to being a
gym rat in Portland, Oregon
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when my dad,
and "The Assassin"
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Dave Sierra,
found him.
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Well, he came to the Portland
Sports Arena looking for work.
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And, we got him
hooked up.
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He looked unreal,
he was like, you know,
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jacked to the max.
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Look at him!
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Me and Rip
"The Crippler" Oliver...
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talked to promoter Don Owens
into using him.
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We knew with
that size body,
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and his home being the
Pacific Northwest,
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that we can draw
money with him.
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Billy Jack Haynes, I mean,
he just, he fit the part,
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and everybody was
giving him a chance.
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In 1982, Billy
rockets to the top...
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with a persona
tailor made for fans
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in the Pacific Northwest.
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Billy Jack's gimmick and
look came from the movie
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Billy Jack,
starring Tom Laughlin,
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about the
ex-service man
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who was a karate expert
and a loner.
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He was a dangerous man,
but soft spoken.
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But don't cross him.
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Billy Jack,
whose look, physique,
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the aura, and the
presence he had,
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the fans went crazy for him
like he was
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their very own hometown
movie star.
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The Portland, Oregon boy
is coming up victorious!
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So Billy Jack was a very
effective babyface promo guy
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for Portland, Oregon.
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Thank you everybody in
Portland for supporting me.
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I love you.
Thank you.
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Nice guy, loved his father.
Loved Oregon,
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loved Portland.
You know what I mean?
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And he was Billy Jack
from the movie,
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trying to get revenge on,
on these different heels.
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Make a little bit more noise
and I'll get it for you.
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Let's go, come on!
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Everyone knew
he was a rising star.
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You know, the 80s was
all about the look.
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He had the look.
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And I'm sure all the fans
here are going to
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like this man,
Billy Jack Haynes.
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What a fantastic build on
this young man, Johnny.
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They loved him,
you know?
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Every time Billy Jack was
on the card, we sold out.
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From the time he first
stepped foot in the ring,
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he was featured.
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He was pushed by
the promoters.
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Small territory,
pushed him.
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Went to a bigger territory,
pushed him.
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I know Billy Jack Haynes
from the territory days,
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when he came to Florida
Championship Wrestling.
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He was pretty laid back.
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Kind of a low key
guy and a loner.
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?
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My name's
Bill "Fonzie" Alfonso,
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and I've been in the
wrestling business
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for 45 years.
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?
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I don't want to use
the word oddball,
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but he was kind of different
from all the wrestlers.
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?
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We'd go out to
the after party,
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have cocktails and drink
and smoke a joint and so on.
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Billy Jack would
go with the fans
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and their kids to pizza,
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and have pizza with 'em.
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The fans loved him.
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He loved the fans.
He was committed.
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After just four years of
working in smaller promotions,
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Billy Jack Haynes
gets the call in 1986 from
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Vince McMahon's World
Wrestling Federation.
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From Portland,
Oregon...
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If you wanted to go deep
into Vince McMahon's mind
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and create a professional
wrestler based on
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what he thought they
should look like,
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Billy Jack was the guy.
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And now I'm
here in the WWF,
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it's the World Wrestling
Federation.
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And believe me, I know
full well this is where
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the stiffest and the
toughest competition is.
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He wrestled in that
Detroit WrestleMania.
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They had over 100,000
people show up.
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Billy Jack Haynes!
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For a wrestler,
that's top of the mountain.
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Look at the builds
on these two guys.
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[cheering]
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Ken Patera!
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And his tag team partner.
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Billy needed a
tag team partner
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to elevate his
persona, so...
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it worked out good.
It worked out real good.
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This is Ken Patera,
coming straight at you.
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And I used to wrestle
with Billy Jack Haynes.
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His appearance was,
"don't -- with me."
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How's that?
[chuckling]
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[cheering]
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Well, we weren't told
anything about the gimmick.
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Pat Patterson came in the
locker room, and said,
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"Well, we got chain saws,
and you guys are
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the Oregon Lumberjacks now."
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And they wanted us to
crank those chainsaws up
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so they were actually
running.
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I said, "Are you
--ing nuts?"
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"I'm not gonna turn
this chainsaw on."
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You know, somebody
could get an arm cut off.
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Just stupid.
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Oh, there it is!
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Billy had a super nice
personality and everything,
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soft spoken and whatnot.
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The nicest guy you'd
ever want to meet.
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Billy Jack Haynes!
And Ken Patera!
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But the gloss
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wears off after a while.
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All respects, Billy Jack
had a fantastic body,
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stayed in shape.
But upstairs, brother,
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that's a different story.
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Everyone knows me in pro
wrestling as The Grappler.
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I wrestled Billy Jack Haynes
many times.
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He's one of those guys
you never know
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what he's gonna try.
I never could trust him.
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He's liable to decide,
you know,
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he's mad about something
and all of a sudden
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knock the hell out of ya.
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[indistinct commentary]
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He was an off the
hinge type character.
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[screaming]
Ah!
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-Oh, baby!
-[cheering]
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His finishing maneuver
would be the Full Nelson,
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and once he locked that
Full Nelson into you,
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you felt like he was
gonna break your neck.
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Nobody has ever gotten
out of the Full Nelson
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once Billy Jack Haynes
has got it locked in.
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Once you gave up, he would
just sling you, I mean,
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like a piece of trash
to the side.
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?
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In the locker room, he had a
reputation for- [snaps] Boom!
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I could see in his eyes,
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he was like a Dr. Jekyll,
Mr. Hyde.
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I've seen him snap
several times.
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There was one night,
we're in Florida.
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The match is over.
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And Percy Pringle
was Rude's manager.
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And Billy Jack came in,
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and he didn't like the way
the finish went.
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He walks in and slaps the
piss out of Percy Pringle.
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He goes, "This guy
screwed up the finish.
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You idiot!"
That was his mentality.
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That's the way
he handled things.
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We did a show and, ah...
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Smirnoff pulled a fire alarm.
Got us in trouble.
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Next thing I know, Billy
done face lock Smirnoff.
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Smirnoff went to the
bathroom on himself.
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It was so bad.
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In Tampa, some smartass guy
was checking Billy Jack out.
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Said, "Oh,
that fake bullshit.
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I could kick ass."
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I just remember him
snatching him in
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a headlock and punching him
in the face
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about 20 times,
really quick.
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Bam, bam, bam, bam,
bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!
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He'd beat the hell
out of the person,
249
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and then kick right out of it
like nothing happened.
250
00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:33,349
He did it because he could.
251
00:10:33,448 --> 00:10:35,918
I mean, right there I know
is this guy's a bully.
252
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He takes on who he
knows he can handle.
253
00:10:37,885 --> 00:10:40,788
You know, so I
didn't respect that.
254
00:10:40,889 --> 00:10:44,860
He went to jail on two or
three occasions, I believe,
255
00:10:44,961 --> 00:10:46,928
for beating people up.
256
00:10:47,062 --> 00:10:51,467
But he always said,
"They deserved it!"
257
00:10:51,567 --> 00:10:54,269
Oregon men don't
back down to nobody!
258
00:10:54,403 --> 00:10:56,804
You know, he's got a heart.
259
00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:58,607
But then he's got
the other side...
260
00:10:58,608 --> 00:11:00,175
you know, where you
screw him over,
261
00:11:00,176 --> 00:11:02,143
he'll come in your house,
pull you out,
262
00:11:02,144 --> 00:11:03,912
and beat you to death.
263
00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:06,750
?
264
00:11:06,751 --> 00:11:09,117
I would never think that the
Billy Jack that I knew
265
00:11:09,118 --> 00:11:11,921
in the 80s would 'a ended up
doing what he did.
266
00:11:12,022 --> 00:11:16,225
?
267
00:11:16,226 --> 00:11:18,558
Police have now confirmed a
woman was found dead
268
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,562
and a man was
taken into custody
269
00:11:20,629 --> 00:11:23,232
after an hours-long
police standoff.
270
00:11:23,332 --> 00:11:28,071
?
271
00:11:28,171 --> 00:11:33,075
?
272
00:11:33,176 --> 00:11:38,313
?
273
00:11:38,413 --> 00:11:42,985
?
274
00:11:42,986 --> 00:11:45,286
There's a whole lot that
people don't know about me.
275
00:11:45,287 --> 00:11:48,691
And, the law isn't
always right.
276
00:11:48,792 --> 00:11:50,793
The law isn't always wrong.
277
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Believe half of what you hear
and nothing of what you see.
278
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Billy Jack Haynes!
279
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I'm Billy Jack Haynes,
280
00:12:03,506 --> 00:12:05,441
from the World
Wrestling Federation,
281
00:12:05,442 --> 00:12:08,610
and a 14-year pro.
Ready to talk to you.
282
00:12:16,518 --> 00:12:19,888
Right now, I'm in Multnomah
County Justice Center jail.
283
00:12:19,989 --> 00:12:22,192
I've been incarcerated
six months.
284
00:12:22,193 --> 00:12:23,959
What I'm talking to you guys
today about is
285
00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,827
one small percentage
of my life,
286
00:12:25,828 --> 00:12:27,562
and there's a whole
big part of my life
287
00:12:27,563 --> 00:12:29,065
I'm leaving out here.
288
00:12:29,066 --> 00:12:30,364
The position
I'm in right now,
289
00:12:30,365 --> 00:12:33,075
it's hard for me to bring up
anything and talk about it.
290
00:12:33,076 --> 00:12:34,503
I have my attorney
out there,
291
00:12:34,504 --> 00:12:36,538
and I'm glad that
he's here today.
292
00:12:36,638 --> 00:12:38,508
It's second-degree murder.
293
00:12:38,607 --> 00:12:40,710
?
294
00:12:40,808 --> 00:12:43,546
And, it's just
way over charged.
295
00:12:43,678 --> 00:12:46,181
It didn't happen.
296
00:12:46,282 --> 00:12:49,719
There's only really two
human beings I really love.
297
00:12:49,852 --> 00:12:52,888
That was my father, who was
blind and in a wheelchair.
298
00:12:52,989 --> 00:12:56,192
And then, the other
was my wife, who...
299
00:12:56,292 --> 00:12:58,227
allegedly I murdered,
300
00:12:58,228 --> 00:12:59,894
which you're gonna
find I didn't.
301
00:12:59,895 --> 00:13:01,163
And, ah...
302
00:13:01,230 --> 00:13:03,432
I loved her
more than life.
303
00:13:03,566 --> 00:13:04,866
[cheering]
304
00:13:04,967 --> 00:13:07,570
Weighing 247 pounds...
305
00:13:07,669 --> 00:13:10,240
Pro wrestling is a work.
We all know that.
306
00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:13,610
But we took it real serious
back when we were in it.
307
00:13:13,710 --> 00:13:16,912
Oh! Look at the blood just
spewing out of the forehead.
308
00:13:16,913 --> 00:13:19,080
I don't want to be negative
towards anybody
309
00:13:19,081 --> 00:13:20,848
in this industry,
you know, I don't.
310
00:13:20,849 --> 00:13:22,751
I respect the
wrestlers so much.
311
00:13:22,885 --> 00:13:26,120
But you know,
they don't know me.
312
00:13:26,121 --> 00:13:27,790
Throughout his
wrestling career,
313
00:13:27,791 --> 00:13:29,958
Billy Jack Haynes
remains distant,
314
00:13:30,057 --> 00:13:32,760
private to the
point of secrecy.
315
00:13:32,895 --> 00:13:34,630
He was not the
life of the party,
316
00:13:34,631 --> 00:13:35,763
the life of the locker room.
317
00:13:35,764 --> 00:13:38,267
He wasn't making friends
hand over fist.
318
00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,434
He was just
that big guy over there.
319
00:13:40,535 --> 00:13:42,605
It's like,
something's going on.
320
00:13:42,739 --> 00:13:46,109
Billy Jack was a...
a true loner.
321
00:13:46,208 --> 00:13:48,910
Then I realized he was
very manipulative.
322
00:13:49,010 --> 00:13:51,714
He always had an agenda.
323
00:13:51,813 --> 00:13:56,152
And, you never knew
what he was up to.
324
00:13:56,284 --> 00:13:59,489
Ah, we'd go check in
at the hotel there.
325
00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:01,624
Five minutes later,
Billy'd be gone.
326
00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:04,126
And he did that
every --ing night.
327
00:14:04,259 --> 00:14:06,229
I didn't know
what he was doing.
328
00:14:06,327 --> 00:14:08,831
?
329
00:14:08,965 --> 00:14:10,633
At that time,
I was, ah...
330
00:14:10,765 --> 00:14:13,100
really heavy into the,
into the narcotics,
331
00:14:13,201 --> 00:14:15,004
into the painkillers.
332
00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:17,139
Uppers, lowers,
I mean, you name it.
333
00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,974
You couldn't
survive without it.
334
00:14:19,107 --> 00:14:21,443
I was five days a week
in and out of airports.
335
00:14:21,543 --> 00:14:22,979
It's all over!
336
00:14:23,111 --> 00:14:24,178
Different cities.
337
00:14:24,313 --> 00:14:26,014
Billy Jack going to work now!
338
00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:27,317
340 nights a year.
339
00:14:27,417 --> 00:14:29,518
Heavyweight champion,
Billy...
340
00:14:29,618 --> 00:14:32,855
I took 20, sometimes
25 pills a day.
341
00:14:32,955 --> 00:14:34,823
Vicodin, Percocet.
342
00:14:34,957 --> 00:14:37,025
It got in the way of
wrestling and my life.
343
00:14:37,158 --> 00:14:38,861
All you beautiful children...
344
00:14:38,994 --> 00:14:40,328
drugs are negative.
345
00:14:40,329 --> 00:14:42,397
You are a positive
influence for the world.
346
00:14:42,398 --> 00:14:44,500
I love you very much.
Say no to drugs.
347
00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,302
Drugs are no good,
you know...
348
00:14:46,402 --> 00:14:49,136
it's not,
they're not good.
349
00:14:49,203 --> 00:14:51,874
Well, we're at the
Oakland Coliseum...
350
00:14:52,008 --> 00:14:55,878
in a tag team.
It's time for the match.
351
00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:58,047
Billy's nowhere to be found.
352
00:14:58,179 --> 00:15:01,283
About an hour later,
all the matches were over,
353
00:15:01,384 --> 00:15:03,518
and here comes Billy.
354
00:15:03,653 --> 00:15:05,687
Oh, he looked
like hell.
355
00:15:05,822 --> 00:15:07,932
And I said, "Billy,
you missed the match."
356
00:15:08,024 --> 00:15:10,658
"Ah-ah-ah..."
Completely out of it.
357
00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:12,995
?
358
00:15:13,062 --> 00:15:15,831
McMahon said that he was
gonna give us a big push,
359
00:15:15,899 --> 00:15:17,532
and I think...
360
00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,501
we can throw that
out the window.
361
00:15:25,407 --> 00:15:27,710
Oh, yeah, yeah, now I...
362
00:15:27,808 --> 00:15:30,046
I probably- What do
you think about that?
363
00:15:31,147 --> 00:15:33,716
On the plane?
364
00:15:33,849 --> 00:15:35,659
You think I should
talk about that?
365
00:15:39,087 --> 00:15:41,758
?
366
00:15:41,857 --> 00:15:44,058
Now, what I heard is
that he overdosed
367
00:15:44,158 --> 00:15:46,229
on some codeine,
I think.
368
00:15:46,361 --> 00:15:48,929
He was foaming at the mouth.
He was jerking.
369
00:15:48,930 --> 00:15:50,531
We had to have an
emergency landing.
370
00:15:50,532 --> 00:15:52,366
They thought he was dying.
371
00:15:52,433 --> 00:15:54,770
I was this close
away from death.
372
00:15:54,870 --> 00:15:58,006
And they had to
jump start me twice.
373
00:15:58,106 --> 00:15:59,442
I'd be gone.
374
00:15:59,443 --> 00:16:01,375
You know, and with WWF,
I mean, it's like,
375
00:16:01,376 --> 00:16:03,210
they don't want that bad
publicity getting out.
376
00:16:03,211 --> 00:16:06,282
You know what I mean?
And that was the final straw.
377
00:16:06,416 --> 00:16:08,850
He was never in the
top spot in WrestleMania.
378
00:16:08,951 --> 00:16:12,587
He was never a major
singles champion.
379
00:16:12,588 --> 00:16:14,055
And after about
a year and a half,
380
00:16:14,056 --> 00:16:17,927
he was fired
by the WWF.
381
00:16:18,027 --> 00:16:19,427
Returning to Portland,
382
00:16:19,562 --> 00:16:21,672
Billy Jack shocks
his former colleagues
383
00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:24,599
by turning on the promoter
who made him.
384
00:16:24,734 --> 00:16:27,403
But everybody knows that
the state of Oregon has the
385
00:16:27,503 --> 00:16:30,706
number one wrestling
fans in the world!
386
00:16:30,806 --> 00:16:33,442
The Oregon Wrestling
Federation is what
387
00:16:33,575 --> 00:16:37,046
Billy Jack wanted to open so
he could be Vince McMahon
388
00:16:37,113 --> 00:16:40,282
of the Pacific Northwest.
That was his words.
389
00:16:40,383 --> 00:16:43,152
The OWF was gonna
be his baby.
390
00:16:43,284 --> 00:16:45,620
We said, "Billy,
Don Owens made you,
391
00:16:45,754 --> 00:16:49,157
and now you're opening
a company against him?"
392
00:16:49,258 --> 00:16:51,961
And, I couldn't believe it.
393
00:16:51,962 --> 00:16:53,527
You gotta have money
to back that.
394
00:16:53,528 --> 00:16:55,230
Sponsors and all that.
395
00:16:55,231 --> 00:16:57,132
You know, somebody that's
got some deep pockets
396
00:16:57,133 --> 00:16:59,067
if you want to
try to do that.
397
00:16:59,168 --> 00:17:01,403
Was there two weeks,
and the shows that
398
00:17:01,504 --> 00:17:04,073
were running weren't
drawing anything.
399
00:17:04,074 --> 00:17:05,472
There was a couple hundred
people in the audience,
400
00:17:05,473 --> 00:17:07,342
so it kind of fizzed out
pretty quick.
401
00:17:07,343 --> 00:17:11,279
And I got a check on Friday,
and he said, "Fonzie,
402
00:17:11,346 --> 00:17:14,015
can you please not cash it
'til Monday?"
403
00:17:14,116 --> 00:17:16,018
So, I knew I was in trouble.
404
00:17:16,117 --> 00:17:19,689
And I went right to the bank
and cashed it, and I left.
405
00:17:19,820 --> 00:17:21,210
Finally, one day
we come in.
406
00:17:21,324 --> 00:17:24,594
He said, "I'm closing, guys,"
and that was it.
407
00:17:24,595 --> 00:17:26,027
The collapse of the Oregon
Wrestling Federation
408
00:17:26,028 --> 00:17:28,163
was pretty spectacular.
409
00:17:28,262 --> 00:17:31,032
Billy Jack Haynes really
left a lot of guys hanging,
410
00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:32,933
and there was
a lot of bad blood.
411
00:17:33,035 --> 00:17:36,637
It hurt Billy's reputation
with a lot of people.
412
00:17:36,704 --> 00:17:39,174
And that was my bad
due to the fact that
413
00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,544
my head wasn't
screwed on right.
414
00:17:41,676 --> 00:17:43,011
And, ah...
415
00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:46,048
probably a little bit to
do with the, the pills too.
416
00:17:46,181 --> 00:17:49,017
Struggling with addiction
and running out of allies,
417
00:17:49,152 --> 00:17:52,721
in 1996, Haynes' once
promising career
418
00:17:52,855 --> 00:17:55,525
crashes to a halt.
419
00:17:55,625 --> 00:17:58,528
A just, a shame and a pity
420
00:17:58,660 --> 00:18:00,797
'cause he had the world
by the string.
421
00:18:00,863 --> 00:18:03,465
He never became the star
to the magnitude
422
00:18:03,566 --> 00:18:05,468
of what people
had predicted.
423
00:18:05,567 --> 00:18:08,237
By the time his wrestling
career was over,
424
00:18:08,369 --> 00:18:10,038
nobody trusted him.
425
00:18:10,173 --> 00:18:14,210
And all of that potential
just dribbled away with it.
426
00:18:14,343 --> 00:18:16,546
Though his wrestling days
may be over,
427
00:18:16,645 --> 00:18:19,346
it doesn't take long for
Billy Jack to find his way
428
00:18:19,449 --> 00:18:21,717
back into the spotlight.
429
00:18:21,849 --> 00:18:24,519
He was a little strange,
little standoffish,
430
00:18:24,618 --> 00:18:27,323
sometimes a little
off-putting, whatever.
431
00:18:27,423 --> 00:18:28,657
He was kind of weird.
432
00:18:28,758 --> 00:18:30,991
And suddenly,
you saw him a few
433
00:18:31,094 --> 00:18:35,163
years later, and there
started to be this change.
434
00:18:35,262 --> 00:18:38,532
In retirement, Billy Jack
hits the interview circuit,
435
00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:40,535
revealing a
shocking detail.
436
00:18:40,603 --> 00:18:41,702
While in wrestling,
437
00:18:41,770 --> 00:18:45,007
he'd been living a secret
double life of crime.
438
00:18:45,107 --> 00:18:46,776
?
439
00:18:46,777 --> 00:18:48,308
Starting way back
in the 70s,
440
00:18:48,309 --> 00:18:50,445
I was about a
kilo a day cocaine dealer,
441
00:18:50,578 --> 00:18:53,013
and I kept that secret
from everybody.
442
00:18:53,115 --> 00:18:55,585
I just wanted to go in and
actually do something
443
00:18:55,683 --> 00:18:58,921
in the pro wrestling industry
instead of a drug runner,
444
00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:01,190
leg breaker,
and worse.
445
00:19:01,288 --> 00:19:03,224
I mean, making
30 grand a week,
446
00:19:03,325 --> 00:19:05,961
I lit a lot of guys up,
and a lot of guys
447
00:19:05,962 --> 00:19:08,261
got addicted to the cocaine
that I sold them.
448
00:19:08,262 --> 00:19:10,432
You know, very nefarious
things went on
449
00:19:10,532 --> 00:19:13,169
back in the 80s.
450
00:19:13,268 --> 00:19:15,570
In 2017,
Billy Jack makes
451
00:19:15,671 --> 00:19:17,806
an even more
shocking claim,
452
00:19:17,940 --> 00:19:21,777
linking himself to a
famous unsolved murder.
453
00:19:21,778 --> 00:19:24,245
It's been over 30 years
since two teenage boys were
454
00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:27,048
found dead on these tracks
in Saline County.
455
00:19:27,049 --> 00:19:28,983
The tracks are still here
and so is the mystery
456
00:19:28,984 --> 00:19:30,252
regarding what happened.
457
00:19:30,353 --> 00:19:32,403
What's new is a witness
has come forward.
458
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:34,171
I helped put the kids
on the tracks.
459
00:19:34,257 --> 00:19:36,557
They were already dead.
They'd been murdered.
460
00:19:36,625 --> 00:19:38,160
[train bell ringing]
461
00:19:42,263 --> 00:19:45,067
Well, over 30 years ago,
a Union Pacific train
462
00:19:45,166 --> 00:19:47,470
ran over two Saline
County teenagers.
463
00:19:47,471 --> 00:19:49,770
The deaths of Kevin Ives and
Don Henry have become
464
00:19:49,771 --> 00:19:52,275
one of Arkansas' most
notorious mysteries.
465
00:19:52,340 --> 00:19:56,112
There was a famous
murder case in Arkansas
466
00:19:56,211 --> 00:19:58,747
back in the 80s,
where these two
467
00:19:58,846 --> 00:20:02,349
teenage boys were run
over by a train,
468
00:20:02,484 --> 00:20:05,654
is what they thought
originally happened.
469
00:20:05,787 --> 00:20:08,857
In the pre-dawn hours
of August 23rd, 1987,
470
00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:11,992
a 75-car cargo train
made its regular night run
471
00:20:12,127 --> 00:20:13,827
to Little Rock, Arkansas.
472
00:20:13,828 --> 00:20:16,131
As engineer Stephen Schreiner
grew closer,
473
00:20:16,132 --> 00:20:18,667
he made the horrifying
discovery that two boys
474
00:20:18,767 --> 00:20:22,637
were lying motionless
across the railroad tracks.
475
00:20:22,738 --> 00:20:24,848
Well, then somebody
else investigated,
476
00:20:24,849 --> 00:20:26,472
found out they
had been beaten.
477
00:20:26,473 --> 00:20:27,808
They had injuries.
478
00:20:27,809 --> 00:20:29,777
They weren't just
run over by a train.
479
00:20:29,778 --> 00:20:33,215
And Billy Jack
started claiming...
480
00:20:33,316 --> 00:20:36,719
that he was there and saw
the murder because
481
00:20:36,851 --> 00:20:40,288
these two teenagers
wandered into a drug deal.
482
00:20:40,387 --> 00:20:43,724
?
483
00:20:43,825 --> 00:20:47,863
His story, the drug people
wanted him to supervise the
484
00:20:47,963 --> 00:20:50,732
drug drop and pay off to
make sure that everything
485
00:20:50,865 --> 00:20:55,036
goes okay, and he was gonna
videotape it also.
486
00:20:55,136 --> 00:20:58,406
And, he said, "I wore
a wrestling mask."
487
00:21:06,728 --> 00:21:10,986
Apparently, these kids
wandered up on it and
488
00:21:10,987 --> 00:21:13,588
as a result, the drug people
killed them
489
00:21:13,721 --> 00:21:15,531
and put them on the
railroad tracks.
490
00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:29,069
The truth is gonna come out
so this woman,
491
00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:31,874
Linda Ives,
can have a life.
492
00:21:31,972 --> 00:21:34,742
Billy Jack's claims about
the unsolved murders
493
00:21:34,844 --> 00:21:37,912
are taken seriously by the
mother of one of the victims,
494
00:21:38,047 --> 00:21:42,084
as well as by the family's
private investigator.
495
00:21:42,085 --> 00:21:44,251
I mean, there is no good
reason to insert yourself
496
00:21:44,252 --> 00:21:45,755
into a murder case.
497
00:21:45,855 --> 00:21:48,790
He has nothing to gain
and everything to lose.
498
00:21:48,923 --> 00:21:50,593
He's put himself
in jeopardy.
499
00:21:50,692 --> 00:21:53,628
Not only his freedom,
but also his life.
500
00:21:53,629 --> 00:21:54,827
They're hopeful
that law enforcement
501
00:21:54,828 --> 00:21:56,699
will now take a look.
502
00:21:56,798 --> 00:22:01,536
?
503
00:22:01,636 --> 00:22:05,140
?
504
00:22:06,807 --> 00:22:08,476
?
505
00:22:08,576 --> 00:22:11,113
As Billy Jack continues
sharing his story,
506
00:22:11,212 --> 00:22:14,583
other details sound
increasingly unbelievable.
507
00:22:18,753 --> 00:22:20,622
I was sent down there to...
508
00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:23,466
take care of two state police
officers from Arkansas.
509
00:22:26,761 --> 00:22:29,131
He told me that he was
running with one of the
510
00:22:29,263 --> 00:22:31,834
biggest drug dealers
in the country.
511
00:22:34,563 --> 00:22:38,772
Well, in the beginning,
when I first started hearing
512
00:22:38,773 --> 00:22:40,740
the stories, I thought,
come on, Billy. Really?
513
00:22:40,741 --> 00:22:44,113
But when it gets right down
to it, he can prove it.
514
00:22:44,212 --> 00:22:46,481
He brought it all out
in an interview.
515
00:22:46,582 --> 00:22:49,116
On several occasions,
as a matter of fact.
516
00:22:49,117 --> 00:22:51,486
The things that he said
about it and all the stuff,
517
00:22:51,487 --> 00:22:53,021
it's all verifiable.
518
00:22:53,121 --> 00:22:55,257
But that's about all
I can say about.
519
00:22:55,324 --> 00:22:57,692
I can't talk about.
520
00:22:59,095 --> 00:23:00,695
I'd love to, but I can't.
521
00:23:03,163 --> 00:23:05,033
I wish I could talk to
you guys. I can't.
522
00:23:11,207 --> 00:23:13,509
?
523
00:23:13,641 --> 00:23:15,176
Did you hear that?
524
00:23:19,714 --> 00:23:21,317
Leave it alone.
525
00:23:21,416 --> 00:23:26,654
?
526
00:23:26,721 --> 00:23:31,492
?
527
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:33,728
As Billy Jack's interview
appearances become
528
00:23:33,729 --> 00:23:36,699
more frequent, his claims
extend far beyond
529
00:23:36,798 --> 00:23:39,032
drug dealing and
the boys on the tracks,
530
00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:41,903
and many begin to wonder
what's behind it.
531
00:23:43,239 --> 00:23:46,208
Bombshell tonight!
Nancy Grace would say!
532
00:23:46,209 --> 00:23:48,307
Everything you're gonna
hear is the truth.
533
00:23:48,308 --> 00:23:50,846
He looked completely
ridiculous,
534
00:23:50,945 --> 00:23:53,548
and then he had
this white hair,
535
00:23:53,648 --> 00:23:55,550
but it was like a
mop top cut,
536
00:23:55,651 --> 00:23:58,053
like he was Pete Best,
the fifth Beatle.
537
00:23:58,153 --> 00:24:01,089
My, my mother and
my uncle, when I was 15,
538
00:24:01,221 --> 00:24:02,424
were both murdered.
539
00:24:02,557 --> 00:24:05,894
There was two politicians
that were involved.
540
00:24:06,028 --> 00:24:09,198
And he started concocting
these stories...
541
00:24:09,298 --> 00:24:11,366
where he was in
the middle of
542
00:24:11,432 --> 00:24:14,368
a variety of
newsworthy events.
543
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:17,740
Andy Gibb had a gig
in San Francisco,
544
00:24:17,872 --> 00:24:20,241
and one of my first big
deliveries was, was,
545
00:24:20,342 --> 00:24:22,443
was there to the concert.
546
00:24:22,545 --> 00:24:28,116
I delivered one kilo to him
July 31st, 1978.
547
00:24:28,217 --> 00:24:31,053
Some say, well, he knows
stuff that nobody else knows.
548
00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:33,554
Well, this dude studies shit,
I can tell you that.
549
00:24:33,555 --> 00:24:35,390
And that's how nutty he was.
550
00:24:35,391 --> 00:24:37,525
He don't have nothing better
to do but to try to find
551
00:24:37,526 --> 00:24:40,395
a way to make himself
back in the scene.
552
00:24:40,494 --> 00:24:44,097
I had cocaine from the
meeting cartel in Colombia,
553
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,800
so I started
making more money.
554
00:24:46,541 --> 00:24:51,537
Well now, was he a drug
enforcer for the Clintons?
555
00:24:51,538 --> 00:24:54,943
Why the -- would
Bill Clinton
556
00:24:55,076 --> 00:24:58,547
call Billy Jack Haynes?
Yeah, that's stupid.
557
00:24:58,646 --> 00:25:01,950
I took it for a,
a grain of salt.
558
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:05,953
He had to be on some
good drugs to think that.
559
00:25:06,054 --> 00:25:08,122
But then the
question becomes,
560
00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:11,326
where was the bizarre
behavior originating?
561
00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:14,797
Conspiracy theories and being
the Forrest Gump of crime,
562
00:25:14,929 --> 00:25:17,097
it not only sounds
so preposterous,
563
00:25:17,199 --> 00:25:18,968
but there was no
upside to him.
564
00:25:18,969 --> 00:25:21,268
It was just interviews
being done with this
565
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:23,005
kooky old man that
566
00:25:23,137 --> 00:25:25,138
people would put up on
the internet.
567
00:25:25,273 --> 00:25:28,009
I've wanted to know who my
real dad is for a long time.
568
00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:29,811
Whether it's Lenny Montana.
569
00:25:29,911 --> 00:25:32,314
Whether it's
Vince McMahon Sr.,
570
00:25:32,413 --> 00:25:33,613
which it could have been.
571
00:25:33,614 --> 00:25:35,650
'Cause he supposedly
had sex with my mother.
572
00:25:35,651 --> 00:25:37,086
Vince Sr. could be my father.
573
00:25:37,184 --> 00:25:38,754
There's a long
history to that.
574
00:25:38,755 --> 00:25:40,287
I don't know if we can
get into it today or not.
575
00:25:40,288 --> 00:25:42,155
Claiming to be the son of
Vince McMahon Sr.,
576
00:25:42,156 --> 00:25:45,094
you know, aside from
being ridiculous, that's,
577
00:25:45,095 --> 00:25:46,693
that's unbelievable
that someone even
578
00:25:46,694 --> 00:25:49,430
tried to pass that off.
579
00:25:49,531 --> 00:25:51,641
When I heard stuff like that,
I would say,
580
00:25:51,733 --> 00:25:53,501
man, Billy's really
losing it.
581
00:25:53,635 --> 00:25:56,005
What's causing Billy Jack
582
00:25:56,105 --> 00:25:59,973
to make up stuff that's
obviously not true?
583
00:26:00,041 --> 00:26:01,808
9/11 was an inside job.
584
00:26:01,876 --> 00:26:03,511
There's no
question about it.
585
00:26:03,612 --> 00:26:06,513
All you have to do in this
world is follow the money.
586
00:26:06,648 --> 00:26:09,298
So, this isn't gonna make
the Bush family too happy,
587
00:26:09,317 --> 00:26:11,519
but they're involved too.
588
00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:15,290
He did look like someone
that would say anything
589
00:26:15,390 --> 00:26:17,358
just to be on a podcast.
590
00:26:17,459 --> 00:26:18,527
[laughing]
591
00:26:18,626 --> 00:26:21,328
Get more money out
of that podcast.
592
00:26:21,429 --> 00:26:23,899
I'm not afraid to come in
front of this camera and
593
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,500
tell you the truth, and either
you're gonna believe it,
594
00:26:26,501 --> 00:26:28,071
or you're not
gonna believe it.
595
00:26:28,103 --> 00:26:32,007
The idea was, if you
tell crazy stories
596
00:26:32,008 --> 00:26:33,806
and there will be an
appetite for more,
597
00:26:33,807 --> 00:26:35,410
even though
it's all bullshit.
598
00:26:35,411 --> 00:26:37,778
You're probably gonna be
looking at a dead man.
599
00:26:37,779 --> 00:26:40,013
Maybe by the time
this video gets out.
600
00:26:40,014 --> 00:26:41,982
Everything I've said
could get me killed.
601
00:26:41,983 --> 00:26:45,586
Everything I've said with
Vince can get me killed.
602
00:26:45,721 --> 00:26:48,722
One preposterous thing
in wrestling can be true.
603
00:26:48,723 --> 00:26:49,856
With some people,
604
00:26:49,857 --> 00:26:52,326
a couple of preposterous
things can be true.
605
00:26:52,428 --> 00:26:55,096
But when you're just pulling
shit out of your ass
606
00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:57,097
over and over,
607
00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:59,309
then even if 1 or 2 of
those things is true,
608
00:26:59,401 --> 00:27:02,202
nobody's gonna
believe 'em.
609
00:27:02,304 --> 00:27:06,107
Amid all the astonishing
claims Billy Jack makes,
610
00:27:06,208 --> 00:27:09,444
at least one truth
stands out.
611
00:27:09,576 --> 00:27:11,880
January 10th, 2006.
612
00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:14,215
It was attempted
murder on me.
613
00:27:14,316 --> 00:27:16,751
?
614
00:27:18,973 --> 00:27:22,889
Once again, I'm speaking
for the people...
615
00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:23,990
under the ground right now.
616
00:27:23,991 --> 00:27:25,293
They can't speak
for themselves.
617
00:27:25,294 --> 00:27:26,961
So let me do it, please.
618
00:27:27,096 --> 00:27:29,763
From 2006 to 2023,
619
00:27:29,865 --> 00:27:32,032
Billy Jack Haynes
makes a series of
620
00:27:32,099 --> 00:27:35,702
shocking statements and
explosive accusations.
621
00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:37,704
Vincent K. McMahon.
622
00:27:37,772 --> 00:27:40,741
I call him Vincent
"Killer" McMahon.
623
00:27:40,843 --> 00:27:43,311
And yeah, that's right.
You're a killer.
624
00:27:43,312 --> 00:27:45,880
Though many of Billy Jack's
stories are dismissed as
625
00:27:45,881 --> 00:27:49,951
conspiracy theories,
a violent incident in 2006
626
00:27:50,051 --> 00:27:52,988
suggests that Billy Jack's
ties to organized crime
627
00:27:53,121 --> 00:27:54,757
may be legitimate.
628
00:27:54,856 --> 00:27:56,125
?
629
00:27:56,223 --> 00:27:59,428
This is the file from the
work I did 16 years ago.
630
00:27:59,493 --> 00:28:03,431
Police reports, letters
from Billy Jack, and, and...
631
00:28:03,499 --> 00:28:05,932
a couple photos of
Billy in the hospital.
632
00:28:06,034 --> 00:28:08,636
?
633
00:28:08,637 --> 00:28:10,104
At the time, I was
writing a column
634
00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:11,365
for the Portland Tribune.
635
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,008
And so,
next thing I knew,
636
00:28:13,107 --> 00:28:15,844
Billy Jack is
knocking on my door.
637
00:28:15,845 --> 00:28:17,944
He looked like
Frankenstein's monster.
638
00:28:17,945 --> 00:28:19,412
He'd just gotten
out of the hospital.
639
00:28:19,413 --> 00:28:21,817
He'd had several bones
in his face broken,
640
00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:23,617
and he had stitches,
as I recall.
641
00:28:23,683 --> 00:28:27,954
We sat down, and he started
telling me his story.
642
00:28:28,056 --> 00:28:31,325
Basically, that he'd
been called over to
643
00:28:31,426 --> 00:28:33,761
Jimmy Longoria's car lot.
644
00:28:33,862 --> 00:28:36,898
The Longoria family was
certainly one of the more
645
00:28:36,999 --> 00:28:39,366
prominent Portland
crime families.
646
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,550
Billy had been a...
647
00:28:40,635 --> 00:28:43,871
a bill collector, and then
he said he delivered drugs
648
00:28:43,971 --> 00:28:45,673
for the Longorias.
649
00:28:48,142 --> 00:28:50,813
Yeah, these are letters
from Billy Jack from
650
00:28:50,912 --> 00:28:53,449
the months after he
came to my place.
651
00:28:53,548 --> 00:28:56,284
"On January 10th, 2006,
652
00:28:56,384 --> 00:28:59,721
I was set up for
a hit or to be killed
653
00:28:59,855 --> 00:29:02,958
by two hitmen
hired by Jimmy Longoria.
654
00:29:03,057 --> 00:29:06,228
I drove through the open gate
at the time scheduled, 9 AM,
655
00:29:06,361 --> 00:29:08,411
and I parked about 30 feet
inside the lot
656
00:29:08,429 --> 00:29:10,199
where I met a man
and asked
657
00:29:10,298 --> 00:29:12,048
where I could find
Jimmy Longoria.
658
00:29:12,067 --> 00:29:13,801
The man motioned
over his left,
659
00:29:13,802 --> 00:29:16,036
and Jimmy Longoria was
sitting at the desk
660
00:29:16,037 --> 00:29:17,739
with his hands
behind his head
661
00:29:17,872 --> 00:29:19,708
with a very cocky
look on his face.
662
00:29:19,842 --> 00:29:23,711
I said, 'You're going to
kill me, aren't you?'
663
00:29:23,712 --> 00:29:24,845
It was then,
I believe,
664
00:29:24,846 --> 00:29:27,482
that Jimmy told me that,
'Paybacks are a bitch,
665
00:29:27,583 --> 00:29:29,182
Billy Jack.'
666
00:29:29,183 --> 00:29:31,384
I remember looking at
the office windows
667
00:29:31,385 --> 00:29:32,855
and seeing four men,
668
00:29:32,953 --> 00:29:34,721
and I thought I
was a dead man."
669
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:38,192
It was very clear that
two guys attacked him.
670
00:29:38,292 --> 00:29:41,028
They beat him so badly that
he had to play dead.
671
00:29:41,130 --> 00:29:42,730
?
672
00:29:42,865 --> 00:29:44,435
He knew they
wanted to kill him.
673
00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:54,241
?
674
00:29:54,343 --> 00:29:58,380
Jimmy Longoria had a
pretty airtight alibi.
675
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,584
He said two tweakers
came onto his lot
676
00:30:02,718 --> 00:30:05,586
and provoked Billy
into a fight.
677
00:30:05,587 --> 00:30:06,854
He said he'd never
seen 'em before
678
00:30:06,855 --> 00:30:08,423
and couldn't identify 'em.
679
00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:11,460
I think they probably
worked for Longoria.
680
00:30:11,558 --> 00:30:15,196
The surveillance cameras
somehow had not been working,
681
00:30:15,297 --> 00:30:17,298
which was, of course,
very suspicious.
682
00:30:18,901 --> 00:30:21,135
I cannot see out of
my right eye.
683
00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:24,439
When looking, if you can
focus in here on my eye.
684
00:30:24,573 --> 00:30:26,375
Billy said it was
685
00:30:26,473 --> 00:30:30,112
retribution for 15
or 16 years before,
686
00:30:30,211 --> 00:30:33,214
when he had ripped off
$200,000.
687
00:30:33,315 --> 00:30:35,917
He'd been a courier back
and forth from Portland to
688
00:30:35,983 --> 00:30:39,153
Los Angeles, taking coke one
way and money the other.
689
00:30:39,287 --> 00:30:42,790
Let's just say in the 80s,
I transported drugs.
690
00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:45,460
I had an 1986 Toyota 4x4.
691
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,430
They put the built-in
cabinet, toolbox.
692
00:30:49,530 --> 00:30:51,932
On the way back,
he broke into the toolbox,
693
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,268
saw $1,200,000.
694
00:30:54,336 --> 00:30:57,839
Figured the $200,000 of it
should belong to him.
695
00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:01,241
I gave the million bucks.
I took my 200,000.
696
00:31:01,343 --> 00:31:04,679
Billy said this beating
was retribution for that.
697
00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:07,682
?
698
00:31:07,683 --> 00:31:09,449
I think he ripped off
the Longorias.
699
00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,253
I think that much is true.
700
00:31:12,254 --> 00:31:14,720
But the idea that they would
have waited 16 years
701
00:31:14,721 --> 00:31:16,791
didn't make any sense
to me at all.
702
00:31:16,858 --> 00:31:20,962
?
703
00:31:21,063 --> 00:31:24,132
?
704
00:31:24,199 --> 00:31:27,089
There are also rumors that
Billy Jack's organized crime
705
00:31:27,090 --> 00:31:29,604
connections might have been
involved in his short lived
706
00:31:29,605 --> 00:31:32,173
promotion in
the late 1980s.
707
00:31:32,273 --> 00:31:35,176
Oh, it's on.
It is on.
708
00:31:35,177 --> 00:31:36,643
I've heard rumors.
I don't know,
709
00:31:36,644 --> 00:31:38,094
something
about the mafia,
710
00:31:38,095 --> 00:31:39,479
but I don't know
anything about that.
711
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,681
Oh! Oh!
712
00:31:40,781 --> 00:31:43,351
What I understood,
he had crooked sponsors,
713
00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:47,387
and they seen a bunch
of money get lost fast,
714
00:31:47,521 --> 00:31:50,692
and they just all one by one,
pulled out and that's why
715
00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:54,195
I think his promotion
folded even faster.
716
00:31:54,327 --> 00:31:57,199
A lot of people that opened
wrestling promotions get
717
00:31:57,332 --> 00:32:00,568
into that because it's the
easiest way to clean money.
718
00:32:00,569 --> 00:32:02,470
As far as like the
money coming from
719
00:32:02,471 --> 00:32:05,472
nefarious characters...
it's very possible.
720
00:32:05,574 --> 00:32:07,342
He had a very dark life,
721
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:09,575
and he probably had some
very dark friends.
722
00:32:09,576 --> 00:32:11,546
?
723
00:32:13,513 --> 00:32:16,851
I'm generally sympathetic to
oddball characters like...
724
00:32:16,951 --> 00:32:18,553
Billy Jack.
725
00:32:18,686 --> 00:32:21,055
But, he was a
puzzling character.
726
00:32:21,056 --> 00:32:22,355
When we were having
lunch one day,
727
00:32:22,356 --> 00:32:24,759
I mentioned the
30-year-old murder
728
00:32:24,892 --> 00:32:28,230
of corrections official,
Michael Francke.
729
00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:31,032
I explained the case to him.
730
00:32:31,033 --> 00:32:32,531
We went on to
something else,
731
00:32:32,532 --> 00:32:34,336
and about two months later,
732
00:32:34,434 --> 00:32:36,672
Billy Jack sends
me something,
733
00:32:36,771 --> 00:32:39,106
all of a sudden,
claiming to have been
734
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:42,910
involved and a witness to
the Michael Francke killing.
735
00:32:42,911 --> 00:32:44,711
He didn't know anything
about Michael Francke
736
00:32:44,712 --> 00:32:46,413
before I told him.
737
00:32:46,513 --> 00:32:50,017
1991, in May 1st,
of my dad's birthday,
738
00:32:50,018 --> 00:32:51,652
the murder of
Michael Francke,
739
00:32:51,653 --> 00:32:53,221
I was forced
out of Oregon...
740
00:32:53,321 --> 00:32:55,923
or my dad would be killed,
I was told.
741
00:32:56,057 --> 00:32:58,359
I think, I think maybe he
convinced himself
742
00:32:58,460 --> 00:32:59,928
that he was involved,
743
00:33:00,028 --> 00:33:03,365
that he had actually
seen the assassination.
744
00:33:03,464 --> 00:33:06,099
He was collecting
newspaper articles,
745
00:33:06,233 --> 00:33:09,270
police reports,
and marking them up.
746
00:33:09,369 --> 00:33:11,440
The whole page
would be coloured.
747
00:33:11,538 --> 00:33:13,942
He always had his
binders and his shit.
748
00:33:13,943 --> 00:33:15,909
I don't know what was in it,
but he had 'em.
749
00:33:15,910 --> 00:33:17,612
He always had 'em.
750
00:33:17,744 --> 00:33:20,115
It's just documentation,
that's all I can say.
751
00:33:20,116 --> 00:33:22,615
It's not my place to go
into those kinds of things,
752
00:33:22,616 --> 00:33:23,951
you know.
753
00:33:23,952 --> 00:33:26,420
Right now, as we speak,
I'm writing an autobiography
754
00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:29,090
with one of the best
writers in the world.
755
00:33:29,091 --> 00:33:31,124
It's something in there,
when people read,
756
00:33:31,125 --> 00:33:33,761
you'll see it's
documented.
757
00:33:33,827 --> 00:33:37,163
And, it may or may not get
me killed, I don't know.
758
00:33:37,263 --> 00:33:39,432
He had quite a bit of
stuff in there, yeah.
759
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,769
At that point, it was
sort of hands off for me.
760
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:44,371
You know, I just sort of back
away from the case, and say,
761
00:33:44,372 --> 00:33:46,339
I don't know what parts
of this are true
762
00:33:46,340 --> 00:33:48,476
and what parts aren't.
763
00:33:48,576 --> 00:33:51,578
The beating was certainly
for real, the...
764
00:33:51,645 --> 00:33:53,647
involvement in the
coke business was
765
00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,017
almost certainly quite real.
766
00:33:56,151 --> 00:33:59,520
The rest I,
I don't know.
767
00:33:59,653 --> 00:34:01,522
He talked like he believed it.
768
00:34:01,655 --> 00:34:04,092
Even as nutty as
Billy Jack Haynes was,
769
00:34:04,192 --> 00:34:05,626
did I think that,
you know,
770
00:34:05,726 --> 00:34:07,776
he would be 70 years old
and the Swat team
771
00:34:07,827 --> 00:34:10,465
would be outside of
Billy Jack Haynes' house?
772
00:34:10,466 --> 00:34:12,098
There's a reason
you're in trouble. Why?
773
00:34:12,099 --> 00:34:14,134
'Cause you just gravitate
towards trouble.
774
00:34:14,135 --> 00:34:15,803
This matter is going
to be page 22,
775
00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,338
line three,
Mr. Haynes.
776
00:34:22,777 --> 00:34:26,481
By 2019, Billy Jack Haynes is
living a nomadic lifestyle,
777
00:34:26,547 --> 00:34:29,384
making rare interview
appearances.
778
00:34:29,516 --> 00:34:31,853
I wore Oregon here.
779
00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:34,489
There, take that, Oregon.
780
00:34:34,556 --> 00:34:36,056
Stick it up your ass.
781
00:34:36,057 --> 00:34:38,292
He'd been a non-entity
in the wrestling world
782
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,628
for 25 years.
783
00:34:40,728 --> 00:34:42,630
?
784
00:34:42,731 --> 00:34:44,632
By the time he started...
785
00:34:44,733 --> 00:34:47,735
just being the weird person
that we've seen
786
00:34:47,736 --> 00:34:50,303
in modern times, I think
you'd almost have to say
787
00:34:50,304 --> 00:34:52,639
he was on some
kind of substance.
788
00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:56,744
I heard that he was having
financial difficulties.
789
00:34:56,745 --> 00:34:58,044
You think you're on
top of the world,
790
00:34:58,045 --> 00:34:59,013
the next day
you turn around,
791
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:01,817
you ain't got two nickels
to rub together.
792
00:35:01,916 --> 00:35:03,751
He was homeless, yeah.
793
00:35:03,885 --> 00:35:05,653
Homeless.
Yeah, that's right.
794
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,222
In my van, sleeping.
795
00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:10,324
Rip Oliver opened his house
796
00:35:10,425 --> 00:35:12,427
for Billy Jack
to live there.
797
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,362
So, Rip...
798
00:35:14,463 --> 00:35:16,431
I found out that
he was dying.
799
00:35:16,530 --> 00:35:18,733
2019, in December.
800
00:35:18,833 --> 00:35:21,536
So, I left Portland and
flew down to Florida
801
00:35:21,603 --> 00:35:23,871
and spent the last
three months with him.
802
00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:24,904
Not looking for
a little pat on the back.
803
00:35:24,905 --> 00:35:26,740
Nothing like that.
He was a great guy.
804
00:35:26,842 --> 00:35:28,943
He never came here
for my dad.
805
00:35:29,043 --> 00:35:31,780
He came here to have a free
place to live, and, ah...
806
00:35:31,781 --> 00:35:33,279
And if he wasn't on pills
before he got there,
807
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,117
he damn sure was
before he left.
808
00:35:37,351 --> 00:35:38,401
Yeah.
809
00:35:38,452 --> 00:35:41,222
My dad was, I don't know,
months away from dying.
810
00:35:41,322 --> 00:35:42,791
My dad was on
the real shit.
811
00:35:42,923 --> 00:35:44,425
The highest they go.
812
00:35:44,525 --> 00:35:46,760
That stuff can put
people in comas.
813
00:35:46,894 --> 00:35:50,931
He started taking Rip's
Percocets or Vicodin,
814
00:35:51,065 --> 00:35:53,601
which Rip really needed
'cause he was very sick.
815
00:35:53,735 --> 00:35:56,271
I think he was more
taking advantage of Rip,
816
00:35:56,369 --> 00:35:59,240
and Rip was paying
for everything.
817
00:35:59,340 --> 00:36:01,208
?
818
00:36:01,307 --> 00:36:04,545
Billy got this scheme,
and called Brian Blair up.
819
00:36:04,646 --> 00:36:07,181
Brian Blair ran
Cauliflower Alley.
820
00:36:07,282 --> 00:36:09,583
You know, they help
wrestlers with problems.
821
00:36:09,682 --> 00:36:12,272
I don't know what happened,
but Billy called Brian.
822
00:36:12,353 --> 00:36:14,822
"Oh, Rip's dying.
He needs help.
823
00:36:14,823 --> 00:36:16,457
He's gonna lose
his property."
824
00:36:16,458 --> 00:36:18,391
This is what
my dad told me.
825
00:36:18,392 --> 00:36:20,160
Cauliflower Alley Club
paid for
826
00:36:20,161 --> 00:36:21,630
his back taxes
on his house.
827
00:36:21,730 --> 00:36:22,810
They paid for his rent.
828
00:36:22,864 --> 00:36:24,931
They paid
everything for him.
829
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,168
Well, my dad
didn't owe taxes.
830
00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:30,405
When he died,
he didn't owe taxes.
831
00:36:30,406 --> 00:36:32,339
And my dad told me
that Billy took half
832
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:34,675
and he gave him half.
833
00:36:34,807 --> 00:36:36,443
My dad was a junkie.
834
00:36:36,545 --> 00:36:39,981
I don't mean to say that bad,
but he was hooked.
835
00:36:40,114 --> 00:36:42,317
He was done.
You know?
836
00:36:42,318 --> 00:36:43,783
He wanted me to be there,
and I was there
837
00:36:43,784 --> 00:36:46,320
all the way to hospice
until he finally died.
838
00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:48,155
I didn't want him
to be alone.
839
00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:51,092
I know he stole all my dad's
shit when- before he died.
840
00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:53,929
Everybody's got stories.
Yeah, I seen it.
841
00:36:54,028 --> 00:36:55,797
They finally came out...
842
00:36:55,896 --> 00:36:58,500
after, you know,
30 something years.
843
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:00,768
He took advantage
of everybody.
844
00:37:00,869 --> 00:37:05,273
?
845
00:37:05,371 --> 00:37:10,311
?
846
00:37:10,378 --> 00:37:12,780
?
847
00:37:12,847 --> 00:37:13,897
Back in Portland,
848
00:37:13,949 --> 00:37:16,050
Billy Jack begins a
relationship with
849
00:37:16,182 --> 00:37:19,853
Jan Becraft, the mother
of his friend, Todd.
850
00:37:19,987 --> 00:37:23,224
The Becraft family disapproves
of the relationship,
851
00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:26,527
but when Todd
unexpectedly dies in 2021,
852
00:37:26,661 --> 00:37:29,530
Billy Jack and Jan
get married.
853
00:37:29,663 --> 00:37:31,699
She was like 85
and he's like 70.
854
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,902
And so, when I saw the
age of the woman...
855
00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:35,904
You know, you hear
stuff from people.
856
00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:37,905
Was he like using her
for money or
857
00:37:38,038 --> 00:37:40,242
a place to live
or whatever?
858
00:37:42,543 --> 00:37:43,711
This way.
859
00:37:43,712 --> 00:37:45,980
This part, this is
actually the main house.
860
00:37:45,981 --> 00:37:49,050
Ah, this is the main
bedroom on this side.
861
00:37:49,182 --> 00:37:50,552
And then the living room.
862
00:37:50,553 --> 00:37:52,285
You can kind of see
through to the kitchen.
863
00:37:52,286 --> 00:37:53,855
My name is Tom Matthew.
864
00:37:53,856 --> 00:37:56,055
I was actually living
here before Billy,
865
00:37:56,056 --> 00:37:57,492
Billy Jack moved in.
866
00:37:57,493 --> 00:37:59,058
You talked to
the neighbour?
867
00:37:59,059 --> 00:38:00,426
They all loved him, man,
he just would-
868
00:38:00,427 --> 00:38:02,896
he would walk around,
talk to everybody, and...
869
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:04,498
He really loved Jan
a lot.
870
00:38:04,499 --> 00:38:06,000
And he was quite
devoted to her.
871
00:38:06,001 --> 00:38:09,237
She was sick, you know.
She was ill with...
872
00:38:09,238 --> 00:38:11,437
Dementia. Some days
she'd have good days,
873
00:38:11,438 --> 00:38:13,608
and some days-
most of the days were bad.
874
00:38:13,742 --> 00:38:16,010
And, that wore on
Billy pretty hard.
875
00:38:16,110 --> 00:38:17,411
?
876
00:38:17,412 --> 00:38:19,346
She had some good days,
but they were getting worse,
877
00:38:19,347 --> 00:38:22,583
and her family definitely did
not like them being together.
878
00:38:22,717 --> 00:38:25,586
And, I don't think they
were gonna separate.
879
00:38:25,686 --> 00:38:27,255
In my opinion,
880
00:38:27,355 --> 00:38:29,523
he took very good care
of her and wanted
881
00:38:29,623 --> 00:38:32,594
to protect her and keep her
from any kind of harm.
882
00:38:32,726 --> 00:38:36,130
The last time I spoke to him
was two days before...
883
00:38:36,264 --> 00:38:38,264
the incident, and...
884
00:38:38,265 --> 00:38:40,634
I told Billy, I said,
"Billy, you look terrible."
885
00:38:40,635 --> 00:38:41,735
He hadn't slept.
886
00:38:41,736 --> 00:38:43,470
He hadn't hardly
eaten anything.
887
00:38:43,471 --> 00:38:46,507
People with, um, dementia,
they become combative.
888
00:38:46,608 --> 00:38:49,110
It's tough to watch a
loved one, you know,
889
00:38:49,210 --> 00:38:51,411
go through that kind
of mental decline.
890
00:38:51,512 --> 00:38:53,648
?
891
00:38:53,782 --> 00:38:56,985
And I seen the cop cars and
stuff on my security camera.
892
00:38:56,986 --> 00:38:58,886
So, I, I went outside to
see what was going on,
893
00:38:58,887 --> 00:39:00,486
and I looked down the street,
and I saw 'em all down
894
00:39:00,487 --> 00:39:02,455
in front of Billy's place,
and I thought, oh, shit.
895
00:39:02,456 --> 00:39:04,357
Detectives have been
at the scene all day,
896
00:39:04,358 --> 00:39:05,692
and police say
the investigation
897
00:39:05,693 --> 00:39:08,262
is just getting started.
898
00:39:08,327 --> 00:39:10,965
I hear a banging on the
window, at the back window,
899
00:39:10,966 --> 00:39:12,732
like, and I looked out
and there was Swat.
900
00:39:12,733 --> 00:39:14,135
It was freaking overkill.
901
00:39:14,235 --> 00:39:16,403
I mean, they had this
place locked down.
902
00:39:16,404 --> 00:39:18,772
Tactical teams, including
the Special Emergency
903
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:21,474
Reaction Team and the
Crisis Negotiation Team,
904
00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:23,309
were called to the scene.
905
00:39:23,411 --> 00:39:26,447
Around two hours later,
a man was detained.
906
00:39:26,448 --> 00:39:27,814
[Off-screen]
So what happened?
907
00:39:27,815 --> 00:39:29,818
Well, I mean, he...
908
00:39:29,951 --> 00:39:31,820
he took her life,
and I mean...
909
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,521
and it took them like maybe
an hour to be in and out
910
00:39:34,522 --> 00:39:36,522
when they actually
took her body out.
911
00:39:36,523 --> 00:39:38,525
?
912
00:39:38,526 --> 00:39:40,526
When Billy was arrested,
the whole neighbourhood
913
00:39:40,527 --> 00:39:41,994
basically was in shock.
914
00:39:41,995 --> 00:39:43,663
And, you know,
just like me, I didn't,
915
00:39:43,664 --> 00:39:45,474
I didn't believe it
either at first.
916
00:39:45,475 --> 00:39:47,366
He's just a big,
gentle giant, you know?
917
00:39:47,367 --> 00:39:51,005
And when you see it,
firsthand, it's...
918
00:39:51,106 --> 00:39:53,306
you know, it tears
your heart out.
919
00:39:53,373 --> 00:39:56,143
Billy Jack was
kind of a, a nut.
920
00:39:56,144 --> 00:39:58,846
You know, and people thought
at this point, he's that old.
921
00:39:58,847 --> 00:40:00,181
He's a harmless nut.
922
00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:02,349
Nobody thought he was
gonna go off and...
923
00:40:02,449 --> 00:40:04,184
murder anybody.
924
00:40:04,284 --> 00:40:06,688
But then the
question becomes...
925
00:40:06,786 --> 00:40:08,789
why in the world
926
00:40:08,889 --> 00:40:10,879
would you ever do
something like that?
927
00:40:16,697 --> 00:40:19,567
Billy Jack Haynes is facing
unlawful use of a weapon and
928
00:40:19,568 --> 00:40:22,035
murder charges today after
the alleged shooting
929
00:40:22,036 --> 00:40:24,036
earlier this month.
930
00:40:24,037 --> 00:40:26,506
Although questions linger
around Billy Jack's
931
00:40:26,507 --> 00:40:29,043
numerous claims and
criminal activity,
932
00:40:29,143 --> 00:40:32,045
one fact remains
undeniable.
933
00:40:32,146 --> 00:40:35,083
On February 8th, 2024,
934
00:40:35,181 --> 00:40:39,186
Billy Jack Haynes took
the life of Janette Becraft.
935
00:40:39,286 --> 00:40:40,722
?
936
00:40:40,822 --> 00:40:43,690
Now, as he faces trial
for second degree murder,
937
00:40:43,791 --> 00:40:46,860
Billy Jack has
a new story to tell.
938
00:40:46,927 --> 00:40:50,831
Billy claims that she had
dementia so bad
939
00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:52,900
that it was unbearable.
940
00:40:52,901 --> 00:40:54,600
He couldn't live
with it anymore.
941
00:40:54,601 --> 00:40:56,905
He called it a
mercy killing...
942
00:40:57,005 --> 00:41:00,240
because she didn't know
who she was anymore.
943
00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:03,411
He supposedly shot
his wife in the head.
944
00:41:03,545 --> 00:41:05,380
And that's a mercy killing?
945
00:41:05,447 --> 00:41:07,715
I don't know, brother.
946
00:41:07,782 --> 00:41:10,918
Maybe he thought that was
justifiable to do that.
947
00:41:11,018 --> 00:41:13,253
It's a very sad situation.
948
00:41:13,387 --> 00:41:16,958
And, I don't know what
they're gonna do justice-wise.
949
00:41:17,090 --> 00:41:19,092
But, that's up to...
950
00:41:19,226 --> 00:41:21,228
I guess, a court to decide.
951
00:41:21,327 --> 00:41:22,764
I don't care for him.
952
00:41:22,896 --> 00:41:25,264
It ain't 'cause
he killed his wife.
953
00:41:26,534 --> 00:41:28,603
I'll let that
play out in court.
954
00:41:28,702 --> 00:41:30,752
If I were his lawyer,
I'd certainly make
955
00:41:30,771 --> 00:41:34,275
a diminished capacity
case for him.
956
00:41:34,276 --> 00:41:36,410
I mean, he's obviously
been taking beatings
957
00:41:36,411 --> 00:41:38,478
throughout
his career.
958
00:41:38,612 --> 00:41:40,782
And, and if
nothing else...
959
00:41:40,882 --> 00:41:43,952
ah, dating from the
beating he got
960
00:41:44,052 --> 00:41:46,554
at the Longorias' car lot.
961
00:41:46,619 --> 00:41:48,722
You ask anybody and
they'll tell ya,
962
00:41:48,789 --> 00:41:51,492
he loved Jan
unconditionally.
963
00:41:51,592 --> 00:41:53,594
She was his world.
964
00:41:53,661 --> 00:41:56,329
Whatever happened,
as unfortunate as it is,
965
00:41:56,463 --> 00:41:58,097
I think was a
big mistake.
966
00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,167
That's what makes it
all that much more
967
00:42:00,168 --> 00:42:02,402
difficult to deal with.
968
00:42:03,838 --> 00:42:05,907
Damn it,
God bless her.
969
00:42:06,007 --> 00:42:07,641
And it hurts my heart.
970
00:42:09,577 --> 00:42:12,614
Mercy killing is the
phrase that they used.
971
00:42:12,713 --> 00:42:13,853
Who's ever gonna know?
972
00:42:13,854 --> 00:42:15,616
The only person
that's alive that was
973
00:42:15,617 --> 00:42:17,183
in the room with 'em
is Billy Jack,
974
00:42:17,184 --> 00:42:19,653
and you can't believe
a thing he says.
975
00:42:19,753 --> 00:42:21,422
If I come across crazy,
I must be
976
00:42:21,523 --> 00:42:24,659
the smartest craziest guy
there ever is.
977
00:42:24,759 --> 00:42:27,049
I'll never, ever forget
the state of Oregon,
978
00:42:27,050 --> 00:42:28,694
and the beautiful fans
that supported me
979
00:42:28,695 --> 00:42:30,097
through pro wrestling.
980
00:42:30,197 --> 00:42:32,367
The fans in Oregon old
enough to remember,
981
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,202
probably still have a
fond spot for him, but now,
982
00:42:35,335 --> 00:42:37,871
more people in and out
of wrestling are going to
983
00:42:37,972 --> 00:42:41,442
remember the crazy stories
he told and the things that
984
00:42:41,541 --> 00:42:44,278
he invented that he was
involved in, and finally,
985
00:42:44,378 --> 00:42:45,980
the murder of his wife.
986
00:42:45,981 --> 00:42:47,546
They're gonna remember
that more than
987
00:42:47,547 --> 00:42:49,057
anything he did
in wrestling.
988
00:42:49,181 --> 00:42:51,184
Let me have
your attention.
989
00:42:51,286 --> 00:42:54,288
I don't want any fan to
ever come up to me
990
00:42:54,389 --> 00:42:58,057
and ask for an
autograph again.
991
00:42:58,058 --> 00:43:00,026
He was a guy that had a
couple good years at a time
992
00:43:00,027 --> 00:43:01,261
when wrestling
was pretty big,
993
00:43:01,262 --> 00:43:03,296
made something of a name,
and had a very,
994
00:43:03,297 --> 00:43:04,998
very troubled existence...
995
00:43:05,065 --> 00:43:06,701
after that fame ended.
996
00:43:06,702 --> 00:43:08,334
It's not a happy ending.
There's, there's no
997
00:43:08,335 --> 00:43:10,625
silver lining in this story,
unfortunately.
998
00:43:13,907 --> 00:43:17,010
Boy, that's
a million dollar question.
999
00:43:17,077 --> 00:43:22,516
?
1000
00:43:22,617 --> 00:43:29,056
?
1001
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:31,891
When that door shuts,
it gets to reality real quick,
1002
00:43:32,025 --> 00:43:34,228
that there's no
getting out of here.
1003
00:43:34,362 --> 00:43:36,230
You know?
No.
1004
00:43:36,329 --> 00:43:38,166
Not 'til trial.
1005
00:43:38,264 --> 00:43:42,836
?
1006
00:43:42,936 --> 00:43:47,342
?
1007
00:43:50,545 --> 00:43:51,744
I do...
1008
00:43:51,846 --> 00:43:53,681
I do.
1009
00:43:53,780 --> 00:43:59,519
?
1010
00:43:59,569 --> 00:44:04,119
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