All language subtitles for Blumhouses.Compendium.of.Horror.S01E04.Relentless.Evil.1080p.AMZN.WEB-DL.DD+5.1.H.264-playWEB_track3_[eng]

af Afrikaans
ak Akan
sq Albanian
am Amharic
ar Arabic
hy Armenian
az Azerbaijani
eu Basque
be Belarusian
bem Bemba
bn Bengali
bh Bihari
bs Bosnian
br Breton
bg Bulgarian
km Cambodian
ca Catalan
ceb Cebuano
chr Cherokee
ny Chichewa
zh-CN Chinese (Simplified)
zh-TW Chinese (Traditional)
co Corsican
hr Croatian
cs Czech
da Danish
nl Dutch
en English
eo Esperanto
et Estonian
ee Ewe
fo Faroese
tl Filipino
fi Finnish
fr French
fy Frisian
gaa Ga
gl Galician
ka Georgian
de German
gn Guarani
gu Gujarati
ht Haitian Creole
ha Hausa
haw Hawaiian
iw Hebrew
hi Hindi
hmn Hmong
hu Hungarian
is Icelandic
ig Igbo
id Indonesian
ia Interlingua
ga Irish
it Italian
ja Japanese
jw Javanese
kn Kannada
kk Kazakh
rw Kinyarwanda
rn Kirundi
kg Kongo
ko Korean
kri Krio (Sierra Leone)
ku Kurdish
ckb Kurdish (Soranî)
ky Kyrgyz
lo Laothian
la Latin
lv Latvian
ln Lingala
lt Lithuanian
loz Lozi
lg Luganda
ach Luo
lb Luxembourgish
mk Macedonian
mg Malagasy
ms Malay
ml Malayalam
mt Maltese
mi Maori
mr Marathi
mfe Mauritian Creole
mo Moldavian
mn Mongolian
my Myanmar (Burmese)
sr-ME Montenegrin
ne Nepali
pcm Nigerian Pidgin
nso Northern Sotho
no Norwegian
nn Norwegian (Nynorsk)
oc Occitan
or Oriya
om Oromo
ps Pashto
fa Persian
pl Polish
pt-BR Portuguese (Brazil)
pt Portuguese (Portugal)
pa Punjabi
qu Quechua
ro Romanian
rm Romansh
nyn Runyakitara
ru Russian
sm Samoan
gd Scots Gaelic
sr Serbian
sh Serbo-Croatian
st Sesotho
tn Setswana
crs Seychellois Creole
sn Shona
sd Sindhi
si Sinhalese
sk Slovak
sl Slovenian
so Somali
es Spanish
es-419 Spanish (Latin American)
su Sundanese
sw Swahili
sv Swedish
tg Tajik
ta Tamil
tt Tatar
te Telugu
th Thai
ti Tigrinya
to Tonga
lua Tshiluba
tum Tumbuka
tr Turkish
tk Turkmen
tw Twi
ug Uighur
uk Ukrainian
ur Urdu
uz Uzbek
vi Vietnamese
cy Welsh
wo Wolof
xh Xhosa
yi Yiddish
yo Yoruba
zu Zulu
Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:23,806 As America entered the 1980s and '90s, 2 00:00:23,849 --> 00:00:27,679 popular culture was as inundated with violence and death 3 00:00:27,723 --> 00:00:30,247 as it had ever been. 4 00:00:30,291 --> 00:00:34,686 But now, the advent of 24-hour news on cable TV 5 00:00:34,730 --> 00:00:39,648 delivered an endless cycle of these disturbing stories. 6 00:00:39,691 --> 00:00:42,129 They call it the work of the Green River Killer, 7 00:00:42,172 --> 00:00:44,783 probably one man who has murdered 13 young women 8 00:00:44,827 --> 00:00:47,264 near Seattle, case unsolved. 9 00:00:47,308 --> 00:00:50,659 Coverage of violent crime was sensationalized 10 00:00:50,702 --> 00:00:54,663 and seemed to suggest peril around every corner, 11 00:00:54,706 --> 00:00:56,752 while new terrors emerged 12 00:00:56,795 --> 00:00:59,929 as a mysterious disease was introduced, 13 00:00:59,972 --> 00:01:05,108 adding yet another layer of worry and dread. 14 00:01:05,152 --> 00:01:09,373 Manicured suburbs were filled with anxious teenagers 15 00:01:09,417 --> 00:01:11,984 and their stressed-out parents. 16 00:01:12,028 --> 00:01:16,946 There seemed to be no safe place to hide. 17 00:01:16,989 --> 00:01:18,600 Motive-less, random killings, 18 00:01:18,643 --> 00:01:20,950 sometimes thousands of miles apart. 19 00:01:20,993 --> 00:01:22,821 A Justice Department investigator calls it 20 00:01:22,865 --> 00:01:24,562 "terrifying, an epidemic." 21 00:01:24,606 --> 00:01:26,912 They're known as serial killers, 22 00:01:26,956 --> 00:01:28,610 and according to law enforcement officials, 23 00:01:28,653 --> 00:01:30,264 there are at least 35 of them 24 00:01:30,307 --> 00:01:32,875 roaming the country now, stalking victims. 25 00:01:32,918 --> 00:01:34,877 Teenagers processed the onslaught of news 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,748 as kids will do -- 27 00:01:36,792 --> 00:01:40,622 feeling vulnerable, alone, and insecure about everything-- 28 00:01:40,665 --> 00:01:42,232 from their place in the world 29 00:01:42,276 --> 00:01:45,235 to their awakening sexual feelings. 30 00:01:46,410 --> 00:01:49,805 Audiences were subjected to a seemingly endless cycle 31 00:01:49,848 --> 00:01:52,068 of exploitative news, 32 00:01:52,112 --> 00:01:54,331 presenting threats from every angle, 33 00:01:54,375 --> 00:01:59,206 suggesting a dangerous world for new modern terrors. 34 00:02:01,164 --> 00:02:05,168 The horror genre became dominated by slasher films 35 00:02:05,212 --> 00:02:08,171 where sexualized teenagers were killed 36 00:02:08,215 --> 00:02:11,218 by merciless, inhuman monsters 37 00:02:11,261 --> 00:02:14,873 punishing them for their transgressions 38 00:02:14,917 --> 00:02:17,789 and while neither they, their helpless parents, 39 00:02:17,833 --> 00:02:20,357 nor the police were able to protect them 40 00:02:20,401 --> 00:02:24,274 from these seemingly unstoppable monsters. 41 00:03:16,761 --> 00:03:18,676 I was a teen in a small town. 42 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,939 I had the typical small-town upbringing, 43 00:03:20,983 --> 00:03:24,334 and so the things that scared me were the idea 44 00:03:24,378 --> 00:03:25,814 that someone could break into your house 45 00:03:25,857 --> 00:03:27,555 and get you when you're asleep. 46 00:03:27,598 --> 00:03:29,078 I was scared of the dark. I was scared -- 47 00:03:29,121 --> 00:03:30,558 I always thought someone was under the bed. 48 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:32,255 I thought there was someone in the closet. 49 00:03:32,299 --> 00:03:34,431 And I wasn't necessarily scared of monsters 50 00:03:34,475 --> 00:03:36,912 and ghosts and aliens as a child. 51 00:03:36,955 --> 00:03:39,654 I was more scared of the serial killers. 52 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,355 I grew up in the '80s, when not only 53 00:03:45,399 --> 00:03:47,009 were serial killers in our movies, 54 00:03:47,052 --> 00:03:48,793 like in Halloween and Friday the 13th, 55 00:03:48,837 --> 00:03:50,665 but they were also in our world. 56 00:03:56,148 --> 00:03:58,020 You know, with Bundy and Gacy and Dahmer 57 00:03:58,063 --> 00:03:59,587 and all of those, you know -- 58 00:03:59,630 --> 00:04:01,371 serial killers became household names back then. 59 00:04:01,415 --> 00:04:03,243 The assailant entered a house in a quiet, 60 00:04:03,286 --> 00:04:05,897 middle-class neighborhood in the predawn hours on Sunday 61 00:04:05,941 --> 00:04:07,290 through an unlocked window 62 00:04:07,334 --> 00:04:09,249 and attacked the couple while they slept. 63 00:04:09,292 --> 00:04:11,686 It just terrifying to me 'cause I lived in a small town 64 00:04:11,729 --> 00:04:13,296 where we didn't lock our doors. 65 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:14,863 And that scared me 'cause it was real. 66 00:04:14,906 --> 00:04:16,299 Stand by. Ready? Three, take three. My cue. 67 00:04:16,343 --> 00:04:18,127 Ready, camera three. One center up. 68 00:04:18,170 --> 00:04:19,520 Good evening. I'm David Walker. 69 00:04:19,563 --> 00:04:22,087 And I'm Lois Hart. Now here's the news. 70 00:04:22,131 --> 00:04:25,003 CNN started broadcasting in the 1980s, 71 00:04:25,047 --> 00:04:27,702 and the '80s were packed with sensational stories 72 00:04:27,745 --> 00:04:29,443 about serial killers. 73 00:04:33,882 --> 00:04:37,015 Like the trials of Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, 74 00:04:37,059 --> 00:04:38,756 the Hillside Stranglers, 75 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,150 and the capture of Henry Lee Lucas. 76 00:04:41,193 --> 00:04:42,934 They started getting great ratings 77 00:04:42,978 --> 00:04:44,458 showing all of the murders 78 00:04:44,501 --> 00:04:46,590 that were happening in your neighborhood. 79 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:53,293 In New London, Connecticut, 80 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:56,818 police say a man apparently upset over a family problem 81 00:04:56,861 --> 00:04:59,342 went on a shooting spree aboard an Amtrak train 82 00:04:59,386 --> 00:05:01,562 en route from Washington to Boston. 83 00:05:01,605 --> 00:05:04,565 The brand-new network that was suddenly in everyone's homes 84 00:05:04,608 --> 00:05:07,307 telling you what was happening, and what they were showing you 85 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:10,614 is that the world you live in is unsafe 86 00:05:10,658 --> 00:05:12,399 because killers are out there. 87 00:05:12,442 --> 00:05:13,574 They're in your neighborhood. 88 00:05:16,881 --> 00:05:19,362 The serial killer next door 89 00:05:19,406 --> 00:05:22,583 had become all too real. 90 00:05:22,626 --> 00:05:26,761 In one gruesome case alone, 26 victims' bodies 91 00:05:26,804 --> 00:05:31,200 were carried out of John Wayne Gacy's home in 1978. 92 00:05:31,243 --> 00:05:34,334 In all, Gacy had sexually assaulted 93 00:05:34,377 --> 00:05:37,249 and murdered 33 young men and boys 94 00:05:37,293 --> 00:05:39,948 over a six-year period. 95 00:05:39,991 --> 00:05:44,953 And as always, the horror genre reflected real-life fears 96 00:05:44,996 --> 00:05:48,348 as filmmakers incorporated this national obsession 97 00:05:48,391 --> 00:05:50,219 with psychotic killers 98 00:05:50,262 --> 00:05:53,396 by perfecting the modern slasher movie -- 99 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,182 90 minutes of teenagers being chased by a relentless, 100 00:05:57,226 --> 00:06:00,621 enraged, usually masked killer. 101 00:06:00,664 --> 00:06:02,536 The stalker classicHalloween 102 00:06:02,579 --> 00:06:06,975 and films like Friday The 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street 103 00:06:07,018 --> 00:06:09,456 sent teens flocking to the movies 104 00:06:09,499 --> 00:06:11,283 and launched horror franchises 105 00:06:11,327 --> 00:06:14,983 that dominated the multiplexes throughout the '80s. 106 00:06:15,026 --> 00:06:17,246 And that's kind of what '80s horror movies were all about. 107 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:26,168 They personified evil with this omniscient force 108 00:06:26,211 --> 00:06:28,431 that could not be fucking stopped. 109 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:30,259 You can throw bullets at these fuckers, man, 110 00:06:30,302 --> 00:06:31,782 throw them off roofs and shit. 111 00:06:31,826 --> 00:06:33,044 Like, they can't be stopped. 112 00:06:33,088 --> 00:06:35,264 Like death, they're relentless. 113 00:06:35,307 --> 00:06:37,048 So, you know, it was a wonderful metaphor 114 00:06:37,092 --> 00:06:38,441 for a young Catholic kid 115 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:40,051 who was already fucking obsessed with death 116 00:06:40,095 --> 00:06:43,664 that like, you know, even -- I didn't need CliffsNotes 117 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:47,537 to understand, like, oh, we all die eventually. 118 00:06:47,581 --> 00:06:49,539 With the advent of cable television 119 00:06:49,583 --> 00:06:52,020 and the emergence of video stores, 120 00:06:52,063 --> 00:06:53,630 viewers could channel surf 121 00:06:53,674 --> 00:06:57,199 between real monsters and imaginary killers. 122 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:03,423 The first horror movie I ever saw 123 00:07:03,466 --> 00:07:05,903 was Friday the 13th. 124 00:07:05,947 --> 00:07:07,688 And for whatever reason, I was left alone 125 00:07:07,731 --> 00:07:09,864 in front of the television when I was too young. 126 00:07:09,907 --> 00:07:11,300 I was eight or nine years old. 127 00:07:11,343 --> 00:07:12,997 And it was definitely one of the worst, 128 00:07:13,041 --> 00:07:14,999 scariest nights of my life, and I didn't see a horror movie 129 00:07:15,043 --> 00:07:16,610 for about two or three years after that. 130 00:07:16,653 --> 00:07:17,959 But it had a great effect on me 131 00:07:18,002 --> 00:07:20,744 and clearly informed me in later years. 132 00:07:20,788 --> 00:07:22,746 I had been working on a couple children's shows, 133 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:24,966 and they got put on hold. 134 00:07:29,187 --> 00:07:32,190 I came up with the title Friday the 13th, 135 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:34,932 and I took out a big ad in Varietysaying, 136 00:07:34,976 --> 00:07:37,500 "The most terrifying film ever made. 137 00:07:37,544 --> 00:07:40,808 Friday the 13th,coming soon." 138 00:07:40,851 --> 00:07:42,679 And I didn't have anything. 139 00:07:42,723 --> 00:07:45,508 I got a bunch of distributors and countries 140 00:07:45,552 --> 00:07:47,336 where they wanted a piece of something 141 00:07:47,379 --> 00:07:49,294 called Friday the 13th. 142 00:07:58,086 --> 00:07:59,304 When we first came up with this notion 143 00:07:59,348 --> 00:08:01,742 of Friday the 13th, 144 00:08:01,785 --> 00:08:04,658 it was like all these strange little deaths. 145 00:08:04,701 --> 00:08:07,530 Who was gonna go next, and who's gonna survive? 146 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:09,793 So when we were trying to figure out an ending, 147 00:08:09,837 --> 00:08:13,362 and there were -- -- this took some doing. 148 00:08:13,405 --> 00:08:17,192 I decided that the killer was gonna be Jason's mother. 149 00:08:17,235 --> 00:08:19,673 Betsy Palmer has a public image 150 00:08:19,716 --> 00:08:23,590 of being the nicest person in the world. 151 00:08:23,633 --> 00:08:25,374 So I thought that we could get 152 00:08:25,417 --> 00:08:28,116 at least a few moments of people relaxing. 153 00:08:28,159 --> 00:08:31,423 "Oh, Betsy Palmer's here. We know she's nice." 154 00:08:31,467 --> 00:08:33,774 Did you know that a young boy drowned 155 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:36,254 the year before those two others were killed? 156 00:08:36,298 --> 00:08:39,257 The counselors weren't paying any attention. 157 00:08:39,301 --> 00:08:42,217 They were making love while that young boy drowned. 158 00:08:44,175 --> 00:08:47,396 His name was Jason. 159 00:08:47,439 --> 00:08:49,311 You wouldn't question that a mother would, 160 00:08:49,354 --> 00:08:51,879 you know, seek revenge for the death of her kid. 161 00:08:51,922 --> 00:08:53,968 So the first movie is definitely horrific, 162 00:08:54,011 --> 00:08:56,144 but, like, it also had this fucking great twist 163 00:08:56,187 --> 00:08:58,668 where it's like, oh, this lady is the killer? 164 00:08:58,712 --> 00:09:00,278 That's kind of crazy. 165 00:09:00,322 --> 00:09:04,848 And then the very next movie, suddenly a star is born. 166 00:09:04,892 --> 00:09:07,111 But they found a way to make Friday the 13thcontinue 167 00:09:07,155 --> 00:09:10,462 by being like, "Oh, never mind the killer mom. 168 00:09:10,506 --> 00:09:12,682 The boy -- he lived. 169 00:09:12,726 --> 00:09:14,989 He's the fucking bad guy from now on. 170 00:09:15,032 --> 00:09:17,034 And we're gonna put a fucking bag on his head!" 171 00:09:17,078 --> 00:09:18,862 Not real great marketing. 172 00:09:18,906 --> 00:09:20,081 But then they got to the third movie, 173 00:09:20,124 --> 00:09:21,604 put a fucking hockey mask on him, 174 00:09:21,648 --> 00:09:23,519 and that changed everything. 175 00:09:23,563 --> 00:09:24,912 Aaah! 176 00:09:24,955 --> 00:09:26,609 Oh! 177 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:32,528 You see that on a little icon, you're like, "That's a horror." 178 00:09:33,834 --> 00:09:37,141 My first horror movie, like, besides Gremlins, 179 00:09:37,185 --> 00:09:40,623 was Friday the 13th Part III in 3D. 180 00:09:44,845 --> 00:09:47,282 And it was coming out in the movie theaters, 181 00:09:47,325 --> 00:09:49,806 and I wanted to see it more than anything. 182 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:54,115 Friday the 13th Part 3 in 3D. 183 00:09:54,158 --> 00:09:57,684 - Aah! - A new dimension in terror. 184 00:09:57,727 --> 00:10:00,034 I begged my parents. I begged and begged and begged. 185 00:10:00,077 --> 00:10:01,688 And they were like, "No, no, no. 186 00:10:01,731 --> 00:10:03,951 Under no circumstances can you see that movie. 187 00:10:03,994 --> 00:10:05,953 You're too young. You'll have nightmares forever." 188 00:10:05,996 --> 00:10:10,610 Because these are Jason's woods. 189 00:10:10,653 --> 00:10:13,917 And nobody leaves them alive. 190 00:10:14,788 --> 00:10:18,443 So they were going away on a ski weekend with their friends. 191 00:10:18,487 --> 00:10:20,402 And they had my babysitter, Jill, 192 00:10:20,445 --> 00:10:22,578 who lived across the street, stay with me. 193 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:25,494 And I remember very vividly them, like, giving Jill 194 00:10:25,537 --> 00:10:27,322 the rundown of, like, "Here are the rules. 195 00:10:27,365 --> 00:10:29,846 Here's the food and some extra money" and yada, yada, yada. 196 00:10:29,890 --> 00:10:32,544 And they were like, "One last thing. 197 00:10:32,588 --> 00:10:34,590 She's gonna try to get you to take her 198 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:36,026 to see Friday the 13th." 199 00:10:36,070 --> 00:10:38,159 In 3D. 200 00:10:38,202 --> 00:10:41,989 "Under no circumstances -- and I mean nocircumstances -- 201 00:10:42,032 --> 00:10:44,078 is she allowed to see that movie." 202 00:10:44,121 --> 00:10:46,515 And Jill's like, "Okay, like, how hard is it 203 00:10:46,558 --> 00:10:48,212 to not take a kid to a movie?" 204 00:10:48,256 --> 00:10:51,172 Like, pretty easy. We have a super-fun night, 205 00:10:51,215 --> 00:10:53,174 watch TV, have popcorn, listen to Madonna. 206 00:10:53,217 --> 00:10:57,352 We go upstairs and go to bed, and I hear talking downstairs. 207 00:10:58,745 --> 00:11:04,054 And I snuck downstairs, and I see Jill on the couch 208 00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:08,580 wearing my mom's nightgown with her boyfriend 209 00:11:08,624 --> 00:11:12,236 underneath the quilt that my grandmother made! 210 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:17,067 And I was like, "Oh, we're gonna go see that movie." 211 00:11:17,111 --> 00:11:19,548 And the next day I said to Jill, 212 00:11:19,591 --> 00:11:22,159 "I'm gonna tell your parents and my parents 213 00:11:22,203 --> 00:11:25,119 if you don't take me to see Friday the 13thin 3D 214 00:11:25,162 --> 00:11:26,424 in the movie theater." 215 00:11:26,468 --> 00:11:28,513 And she was like... 216 00:11:28,557 --> 00:11:31,995 So, sure enough, Saturday matinee. 217 00:11:37,522 --> 00:11:40,743 It was the scariest -- Am I allowed to swear? 218 00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:45,400 The scariest fucking thing to this day 219 00:11:45,443 --> 00:11:48,142 I have ever, ever seen in my life. 220 00:11:50,448 --> 00:11:52,842 I won't go see 3-D movies at all now, 221 00:11:52,886 --> 00:11:54,104 at all, because of it. 222 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:55,584 It was so fucking scary. 223 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:57,847 My parents were 110% right. 224 00:11:57,891 --> 00:12:00,241 I should never have seen that movie. 225 00:12:00,284 --> 00:12:02,025 I mean, still to this day, I have nightmares. 226 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:04,941 But I never told my parents why I was having nightmares. 227 00:12:08,031 --> 00:12:11,165 Fucking hockey mask, man. 228 00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:16,213 I swear I felt like I was born to play that character. 229 00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:18,520 It felt so natural, even from the beginning. 230 00:12:23,177 --> 00:12:25,962 Villains are so scary behind a mask. 231 00:12:26,006 --> 00:12:28,617 It has to be the unknown. 232 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:30,314 I mean, that has to be a factor to it, 233 00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:33,056 that you're looking at someone, you don't really know 234 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:34,449 what they really look like. 235 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:38,888 And not that you'd necessarily want to, 236 00:12:38,932 --> 00:12:41,456 but just that mystery of, 237 00:12:41,499 --> 00:12:44,459 "Who could possibly be behind that mask?" 238 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:48,680 and the expressionless-ness of it, 239 00:12:48,724 --> 00:12:51,814 whether it's Michael Myers or Jason, 240 00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:53,163 it never changes. 241 00:12:53,207 --> 00:12:59,604 So it's just a scary, unknown entity, 242 00:12:59,648 --> 00:13:02,216 I think, is what makes it so terrifying. 243 00:13:02,259 --> 00:13:04,653 The truth is, Friday the 13thstarted out 244 00:13:04,696 --> 00:13:07,743 with a reality-based killer, more or less. 245 00:13:07,787 --> 00:13:11,442 You know, it has turned into this sort of iconic story 246 00:13:11,486 --> 00:13:16,839 about this abused kid, Jason. 247 00:13:16,883 --> 00:13:19,668 And I think that inside of that story is something 248 00:13:19,711 --> 00:13:24,064 that's so irresistible to a lot of people. 249 00:13:24,107 --> 00:13:27,197 It's like Revenge of the Nerds on steroids, you know, 250 00:13:27,241 --> 00:13:29,286 and you get to kick ass 251 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:31,811 all these people that are bugging you. 252 00:13:31,854 --> 00:13:34,117 And I think it is very dependable. 253 00:13:34,161 --> 00:13:35,989 If you're gonna go see a Friday the 13thmovie, 254 00:13:36,032 --> 00:13:38,469 you know at this point what you're gonna get. 255 00:13:38,513 --> 00:13:41,385 And we always try to deliver on that, and then a little more. 256 00:13:41,429 --> 00:13:45,085 Probably the biggest thing about Jason 257 00:13:45,128 --> 00:13:48,001 that the audience fears 258 00:13:48,044 --> 00:13:52,832 is the unstoppable nature of the character. 259 00:13:52,875 --> 00:13:57,749 No matter what you do to stop that guy from coming after you, 260 00:13:57,793 --> 00:13:59,012 it doesn't work. 261 00:14:00,056 --> 00:14:02,102 You light the guy on fire, 262 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:03,930 you blow him up, 263 00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:06,367 you stab him, 264 00:14:06,410 --> 00:14:09,457 you hack him with an ax... 265 00:14:10,371 --> 00:14:11,851 ...he still keeps coming. 266 00:14:14,897 --> 00:14:16,072 After Friday the 13th, 267 00:14:16,116 --> 00:14:18,205 it looked like these little movies, 268 00:14:18,248 --> 00:14:20,685 you know, relatively low-budget movies 269 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:23,993 that featured a lot of blood and special effects 270 00:14:24,037 --> 00:14:25,821 were going to be successful. 271 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:29,259 The success of this new wave of genre films 272 00:14:29,303 --> 00:14:32,175 attracted exciting young filmmakers 273 00:14:32,219 --> 00:14:36,266 and inspired them to make horror films infused with fresh ideas, 274 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:39,966 creative storytelling, innovative cinematography 275 00:14:40,009 --> 00:14:43,404 and spit-and-glue special effects 276 00:14:43,447 --> 00:14:46,102 to get the biggest bang for their buck. 277 00:14:51,891 --> 00:14:55,720 The only reason we ever got into horror in the first place 278 00:14:55,764 --> 00:14:57,418 for my first film, Evil Dead-- 279 00:14:57,461 --> 00:15:00,464 we were terrified of losing the investors' money. 280 00:15:05,426 --> 00:15:08,777 And we knew that horror films was a staple that was out there. 281 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:10,126 You could get them into drive-ins. 282 00:15:10,170 --> 00:15:12,215 You didn't have to get in fancy theaters. 283 00:15:12,259 --> 00:15:14,261 You could use no-name actors 284 00:15:14,304 --> 00:15:17,003 wearing regular clothes, driving regular cars. 285 00:15:17,046 --> 00:15:19,222 Nothing had to be that fancy. 286 00:15:22,051 --> 00:15:24,967 Why have you disturbed our sleep, 287 00:15:25,011 --> 00:15:28,666 awakened us from our ancient slumber? 288 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:33,019 Sam I met in eighth grade. 289 00:15:33,062 --> 00:15:35,586 I was walking down the hallway, West Maple Junior High School. 290 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:37,762 He's sitting in the middle of the hallway 291 00:15:37,806 --> 00:15:40,591 dressed like Sherlock Holmes, playing with dolls. 292 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:43,029 I was like, "Oh, man. 293 00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:44,682 I'm going around that guy." 294 00:15:44,726 --> 00:15:46,597 I mean, he really left an indelible mark. 295 00:15:46,641 --> 00:15:47,990 I'm like, "People don't do that. 296 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,861 They don't dress like Sherlock Holmes." 297 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:51,994 And he claimed later he was making a movie. 298 00:15:52,038 --> 00:15:53,561 I'm like, "I didn't see a camera. 299 00:15:53,604 --> 00:15:55,128 I didn't see it anywhere. 300 00:15:55,171 --> 00:15:56,999 I think you were just being a little whack job." 301 00:15:58,783 --> 00:16:02,874 Oh, God. Look at this. 302 00:16:02,918 --> 00:16:07,749 Sam Raimi took a class and read about the Necronomicon. 303 00:16:07,792 --> 00:16:10,708 It was like the Egyptian Book of the Dead. 304 00:16:10,752 --> 00:16:13,059 And he thought, "Hey, that's cool. 305 00:16:13,102 --> 00:16:16,366 Like, that's just this weird book that has conjurings, 306 00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:19,413 and once you conjure them, like, what happens? 307 00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:20,849 I don't know." 308 00:16:20,892 --> 00:16:22,459 So that was really intriguing to him. 309 00:16:22,503 --> 00:16:24,896 And so I think he brought that up 310 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:27,203 when we decided to make a horror movie. 311 00:16:28,378 --> 00:16:30,206 This guy was a real turd, you know. 312 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:32,556 Everybody hated him. Everybody. 313 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,644 Like you, kinda. 314 00:16:33,688 --> 00:16:35,385 Released in 1981, 315 00:16:35,429 --> 00:16:38,301 The Evil Deadis the story of a group of friends 316 00:16:38,345 --> 00:16:42,827 that unleash an ancient curse conjured from a Sumerian text. 317 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:44,742 The film did what horror does best -- 318 00:16:44,786 --> 00:16:48,311 created a meta world with layers of subtext. 319 00:16:48,355 --> 00:16:50,313 You never see the villain. 320 00:16:50,357 --> 00:16:53,838 The evil spirit possesses these kids one by one. 321 00:16:53,882 --> 00:16:55,449 As one critic put it, 322 00:16:55,492 --> 00:16:58,321 "The monster is the camera itself 323 00:16:58,365 --> 00:17:00,497 and whoever is behind it." 324 00:17:00,541 --> 00:17:03,326 In other words, the viewer is part of the scene, 325 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:05,459 whether they want to be or not. 326 00:17:05,502 --> 00:17:07,983 You hear an incantation. Something comes up. 327 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:11,378 It possesses you, you know, and has malevolent intent. 328 00:17:11,421 --> 00:17:14,163 So you open-- you opened the wrong book, man. 329 00:17:14,207 --> 00:17:17,123 And so I think Sam kind of ran with it from there. 330 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:18,559 And Evil Deadcame along. 331 00:17:29,091 --> 00:17:31,746 Evil Deadis the most simplistic plot ever, 332 00:17:31,789 --> 00:17:34,923 and it's one that we see to come over and over -- 333 00:17:34,966 --> 00:17:37,534 group of kids go to a cabin, 334 00:17:37,578 --> 00:17:39,406 they find some fucked-up shit there, 335 00:17:39,449 --> 00:17:41,060 and then the movie just keeps going. 336 00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:43,540 But what Evil Deaddid is at a time period 337 00:17:43,584 --> 00:17:45,281 where if you were going to a cabin, 338 00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:48,719 you were going to encounter a maniacal redneck killer. 339 00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:51,548 Instead, the entire house is demonic. 340 00:17:51,592 --> 00:17:53,811 Everything is cursed around it. 341 00:17:53,855 --> 00:17:57,598 And just by being there, you're getting the curse, too. 342 00:17:57,641 --> 00:18:00,035 Our special effects were very crude. 343 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,558 Tom Sullivan's like, "I know how to make these 344 00:18:01,602 --> 00:18:03,125 special, cool molds. 345 00:18:03,169 --> 00:18:04,779 We'll make a mold of the actor's face, 346 00:18:04,822 --> 00:18:06,128 and then you can sculpt it 347 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,739 and then put an appliance on their face." 348 00:18:08,783 --> 00:18:12,047 Right? So we'll use plaster of Paris. 349 00:18:12,091 --> 00:18:14,223 Well, anyone who's used plaster of Paris knows 350 00:18:14,267 --> 00:18:17,574 it heats up and as it dries. 351 00:18:17,618 --> 00:18:20,360 Well, okay, so we put a light coating of Vaseline 352 00:18:20,403 --> 00:18:21,970 on Betsy Baker's face. 353 00:18:22,013 --> 00:18:23,885 She was the first guinea pig. 354 00:18:23,928 --> 00:18:26,975 This thing starts to heat up. She's like, "How much longer?" 355 00:18:27,018 --> 00:18:29,238 So finally like five minutes later, we go, 356 00:18:29,282 --> 00:18:31,066 "Okay, Betsy, no problem, we're gonna get you out of that." 357 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:32,807 So all you have to do is lean forward, right? 358 00:18:32,850 --> 00:18:36,289 'Cause the weight of it, of the plaster of Paris, 359 00:18:36,332 --> 00:18:38,160 will pull it off your face. 360 00:18:38,204 --> 00:18:40,728 So it did -- went right off her face, right into her hand. 361 00:18:40,771 --> 00:18:43,513 She looks into the mask, and all of her eyelashes 362 00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:46,168 were in the mold. 363 00:18:46,212 --> 00:18:49,084 It pulled all of her eyelashes off of her face. 364 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:52,609 And she said, in the most kind of remarkable way -- 365 00:18:52,653 --> 00:18:55,612 she was like more fascinated -- she goes, 366 00:18:55,656 --> 00:18:58,049 "Those are all my eyelashes." 367 00:18:58,093 --> 00:19:00,051 We're like, "Yeah, Betsy. Sorry." 368 00:19:00,095 --> 00:19:01,227 And that was just the beginning. 369 00:19:10,714 --> 00:19:12,586 And then when it finally did come out, 370 00:19:12,629 --> 00:19:15,371 we started to get some pretty bad reviews. 371 00:19:15,415 --> 00:19:17,025 A paper in Atlanta called it 372 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:20,071 Evil Dead: The Sickest of the Sick. 373 00:19:20,115 --> 00:19:23,684 Sam Raimi took every bad idea he's ever had..." 374 00:19:23,727 --> 00:19:26,034 Ever had. He only made one movie. 375 00:19:26,077 --> 00:19:29,211 "...and put it into a low-budget blender." 376 00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:32,345 I'm like, "What a dick. What a dickish thing to say." 377 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:34,521 But this new kind of filmmaking, 378 00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:36,479 one that threw in everything 379 00:19:36,523 --> 00:19:38,960 audiences come to love about horror films -- 380 00:19:39,003 --> 00:19:41,832 the campy special effects, ham-fisted dialogue, 381 00:19:41,876 --> 00:19:44,052 and handsome action hero -- 382 00:19:44,095 --> 00:19:46,576 impressed the one guy that mattered. 383 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:48,709 Enter Stephen King. 384 00:19:48,752 --> 00:19:50,667 He sees it at the Cannes Film Festival. 385 00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:52,626 It's a horror movie. Let's go see it. 386 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:56,630 And he writes an article in Twilight Zone Magazine 387 00:19:56,673 --> 00:19:59,154 and calls it "the most ferociously original 388 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:00,808 horror film of the year." 389 00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:03,463 We spit our coffee. We're like, "Wait a second. 390 00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:04,899 Stephen King said that?" 391 00:20:04,942 --> 00:20:06,857 And I don't even know how we tracked him down. 392 00:20:06,901 --> 00:20:10,252 But, "Sir, could we please -- please, can we use that quote?" 393 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,080 He goes, "Yeah." 394 00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:13,777 We were like, "Oh, my God." 395 00:20:13,821 --> 00:20:16,258 So that's on the poster to this day. 396 00:20:16,302 --> 00:20:19,261 Stephen King -- I mean, what an endorsement. 397 00:20:19,305 --> 00:20:21,350 Evil Deadwas banned in most countries 398 00:20:21,394 --> 00:20:22,786 and slashed by censors. 399 00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:25,180 It was also on the video nasties list. 400 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:28,314 Sam Raimi made Evil Dead as this homespun, 401 00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,881 guttural exploitation film, 402 00:20:30,925 --> 00:20:32,535 and it's really freaking scary. 403 00:20:32,579 --> 00:20:35,234 We forget about how scary the original Evil Deadis 404 00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:37,453 in light of Evil Dead II and Army of Darkness 405 00:20:37,497 --> 00:20:38,802 and everything to come. 406 00:20:38,846 --> 00:20:41,675 But that first film was horrifying. 407 00:20:41,718 --> 00:20:43,285 It's violent. 408 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:46,201 The decision to make a completely carnage-filled 409 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:50,510 horror movie was also a business decision of like, 410 00:20:50,553 --> 00:20:51,902 "We don't want to get lost in the shuffle. 411 00:20:51,946 --> 00:20:54,165 We have to -- This has to be, like, 412 00:20:54,209 --> 00:20:56,037 something people remember when they watch it." 413 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,170 Aaah! 414 00:21:06,352 --> 00:21:08,092 The Evil Dead was a hit. 415 00:21:08,136 --> 00:21:10,007 Audiences ate it up, 416 00:21:10,051 --> 00:21:13,924 and Sam Raimi had a franchise on his hands. 417 00:21:13,968 --> 00:21:15,883 My theory is that horror works. 418 00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:18,625 It's one of the few genres that can get 419 00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:21,932 an audience to react viscerally. 420 00:21:21,976 --> 00:21:24,195 You know, after we put the first Evil Deadout, 421 00:21:24,239 --> 00:21:28,330 we would sit in movie theaters to watch it play with audiences. 422 00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:29,984 And we didn't care about the movie after a while. 423 00:21:30,027 --> 00:21:32,203 It was, we just watched the audience. 424 00:21:32,247 --> 00:21:35,772 You'd see a couple, they got a jacket over their head, 425 00:21:35,816 --> 00:21:36,991 and they're screening the movie 426 00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,036 through their sleeve of the jacket, 427 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,039 'cause they only want to see parts of the screen. 428 00:21:42,083 --> 00:21:45,129 They love that feeling that they got of like, 429 00:21:45,173 --> 00:21:47,697 "I'm dead. I'm gonna be dead." 430 00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:50,004 And then after the movie, "I'm not dead." 431 00:21:50,047 --> 00:21:54,051 It's probably very cathartic, why horror works. 432 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,887 As if teenagers didn't already have enough to fear 433 00:22:03,931 --> 00:22:05,628 in their waking hours, 434 00:22:05,672 --> 00:22:07,326 Wes Craven came up with something 435 00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:11,373 even more terrifying to torture their subconscious. 436 00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:12,243 We think of Nightmare on Elm Street 437 00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:13,897 as being mainstream now, 438 00:22:13,941 --> 00:22:16,596 but it was a bit alternative back in the day. 439 00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:24,517 I think the original fans were dorm rats 440 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,910 passing around the same old video 441 00:22:26,954 --> 00:22:28,390 and heavy-metal kids 442 00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:29,913 and then their brothers and sisters 443 00:22:29,957 --> 00:22:31,828 or their younger brothers and sisters, 444 00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:33,352 and then, you know, it just began 445 00:22:33,395 --> 00:22:36,006 to permeate the entire culture. 446 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:39,096 The idea for A Nightmare on Elm Street 447 00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:42,012 came to Wes Craven after he read stories 448 00:22:42,056 --> 00:22:44,972 about healthy young adults screaming incoherently 449 00:22:45,015 --> 00:22:48,541 before dying in their sleep, a mysterious disorder 450 00:22:48,584 --> 00:22:53,154 that came to be known as Nocturnal Death Syndrome. 451 00:22:53,197 --> 00:22:56,070 Craven conjured up the story of a villain 452 00:22:56,113 --> 00:22:58,507 that terrorizes you in your sleep. 453 00:22:58,551 --> 00:23:01,989 And if you die in your dream, you're done for. 454 00:23:02,032 --> 00:23:03,991 While writing the script, 455 00:23:04,034 --> 00:23:07,951 Craven named the nightmare killer after a childhood bully, 456 00:23:07,995 --> 00:23:09,431 Fred Krueger. 457 00:23:09,475 --> 00:23:11,433 Nightmare on Elm Street started on a Friday. 458 00:23:14,958 --> 00:23:17,134 And I couldn't get anyone to go see it with me, 459 00:23:17,178 --> 00:23:19,136 'cause I wanted to see it, like, at noon 460 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:20,399 and nobody would go and see it with me. 461 00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:22,096 So I had to go see it by myself. 462 00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:23,358 And, of course, who's in the theater at noon? 463 00:23:23,402 --> 00:23:25,055 Nobody. Me. Just me. 464 00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:26,709 So I'm sitting in the theater by myself, 465 00:23:26,753 --> 00:23:28,668 and I'm in Greenville, North Carolina. 466 00:23:31,932 --> 00:23:34,021 And I start watching this movie, 467 00:23:34,064 --> 00:23:35,849 and I get so scared... 468 00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:37,067 Shit. 469 00:23:37,111 --> 00:23:38,286 ...and I get a cramp in my leg. 470 00:23:38,329 --> 00:23:39,548 I had to walk up and down the aisle 471 00:23:39,592 --> 00:23:40,941 'cause I wouldn't leave the theater. 472 00:23:40,984 --> 00:23:42,508 I had to see what was gonna happen. 473 00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:49,036 And I changed seats and I moved closer to the exit. 474 00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:52,431 And, I mean, I was terrified. That movie really scared me. 475 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:54,868 It actually scared me the first three times I saw it. 476 00:23:54,911 --> 00:23:56,522 I had to go back and see it again, 477 00:23:56,565 --> 00:23:59,307 and it scared me almost more so than the first time 478 00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:00,656 because I knew what was gonna happen, 479 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,919 so I was scared before it happened. 480 00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:04,878 That movie was awesome. 481 00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:08,664 Nightmare on Elm Street is about a serial killer, 482 00:24:08,708 --> 00:24:12,973 Freddy Krueger, who haunts you in your dreams, you know? 483 00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:17,020 And he is -- he's taken revenge on the children of Elm Street 484 00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:18,369 for something that their parents did. 485 00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:20,023 And he comes to them in their dreams, 486 00:24:20,067 --> 00:24:22,112 and if you die in your dreams, you die for real. 487 00:24:22,156 --> 00:24:23,287 Dreams are a safe place. 488 00:24:23,331 --> 00:24:24,854 Dreams are where fun things happen. 489 00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:27,770 Dreams are where you wake up and it's over. 490 00:24:27,814 --> 00:24:30,469 And the idea that whatever taunts you 491 00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:33,167 and stalks you in your dreams can come to reality, 492 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:35,474 or if you die in your dreams, you die for good -- 493 00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:37,737 I mean, that's beyond your control. That's terrifying. 494 00:24:42,002 --> 00:24:46,528 As a horror theme and as a trap, 495 00:24:46,572 --> 00:24:50,184 the nightmares -- the dream, the bad dream, the gimmick -- 496 00:24:50,227 --> 00:24:51,881 it's universal. 497 00:24:54,014 --> 00:24:56,364 To have also it inhabited 498 00:24:56,407 --> 00:24:59,976 by this man that lives in that world... 499 00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:06,548 this boogieman that inhabits the dream, 500 00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:07,854 once you've heard of him, you know, 501 00:25:07,897 --> 00:25:09,246 he can get to your subconscious... 502 00:25:09,290 --> 00:25:10,900 Who are you? 503 00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:13,773 ...and take you down, down the stairs 504 00:25:13,816 --> 00:25:16,253 into the nightmare boiler room. 505 00:25:17,951 --> 00:25:21,302 That movie had such a deep impact on me. 506 00:25:26,089 --> 00:25:27,569 Took place in the suburbs. 507 00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:30,311 I grew up in the suburbs, newly integrated suburbs. 508 00:25:30,354 --> 00:25:33,009 So there was sort of a feeling of unease. 509 00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:35,055 You didn't know how your neighbors felt about you. 510 00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:36,578 You didn't know what would pop off. 511 00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:38,537 We had people throwing tomatoes against our house 512 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:40,147 and all kinds of stuff. 513 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:42,715 So the suburban horror feel had me from hello. 514 00:25:42,758 --> 00:25:45,021 Wes wanted that. 515 00:25:45,065 --> 00:25:48,982 He wanted this sort of damaged suburbia. 516 00:25:50,026 --> 00:25:53,116 And he was making the adults in these movies 517 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,423 vulnerable and flawed. 518 00:25:56,424 --> 00:26:00,559 That meant the kids were sort of without adults for advice. 519 00:26:02,299 --> 00:26:03,779 It really dealt with the sins of our fathers. 520 00:26:03,823 --> 00:26:05,215 I mean, these children were pretty innocent. 521 00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:06,608 It was what their parents did 522 00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,088 that they were being punished for. 523 00:26:08,131 --> 00:26:09,306 It was out of their control. 524 00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:10,873 This man was coming for them 525 00:26:10,917 --> 00:26:12,614 because of something their parents did. 526 00:26:12,658 --> 00:26:14,398 So that sort of "sins of our father" theme 527 00:26:14,442 --> 00:26:17,314 that ran through that movie, I thought was really scary. 528 00:26:17,358 --> 00:26:20,579 There's something about the way Freddy moves 529 00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:24,017 that's animal-like, that's cat-like, 530 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,410 that's even reptilian at times. 531 00:26:26,454 --> 00:26:28,499 And I think that that's what I bring 532 00:26:28,543 --> 00:26:32,242 to sort of Freddy's scare factor. 533 00:26:32,286 --> 00:26:36,290 The claw with the knife fingers 534 00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:38,814 on the old gardening glove -- 535 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:42,818 that not only manifests great in silhouette and shadow, 536 00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:46,300 but it's something about it extending evil 537 00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:49,999 or amplifying the evil that is just Freddy. 538 00:26:50,043 --> 00:26:52,480 That is the scariest thing -- those knives, 539 00:26:52,523 --> 00:26:56,397 the taunting nature of his attacks. 540 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,270 Freddy Krueger definitely was my scariest villain. 541 00:27:06,712 --> 00:27:09,584 The push is on to find a cure for AIDS. 542 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:13,066 Since June of 1981, about 1,800 cases have been reported, 543 00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:14,676 mostly in the gay community, 544 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,374 and more than 600 people have died. 545 00:27:17,418 --> 00:27:19,899 In the early '80s, nothing was more terrifying 546 00:27:19,942 --> 00:27:21,465 than an unidentified virus 547 00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:23,380 that could incubate in the body for years 548 00:27:23,424 --> 00:27:26,732 and, when it struck, was a death sentence. 549 00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:29,604 There was panic in the air as the AIDS epidemic 550 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:32,738 decimated a generation of gay men. 551 00:27:32,781 --> 00:27:35,958 During the process, many people lost their sense of compassion 552 00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:38,744 and replaced it with homophobia. 553 00:27:38,787 --> 00:27:40,659 And AIDS generally caused 554 00:27:40,702 --> 00:27:43,749 and believed to be caused by homosexual promiscuity. 555 00:27:43,792 --> 00:27:46,186 While doctors tried desperately to save lives 556 00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:49,319 and scientists pieced together how to fight it, 557 00:27:49,363 --> 00:27:52,192 the Reagan administration ignored the crisis. 558 00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:56,239 But horror filmmakers did not. 559 00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:58,851 When I moved to New York in the early '80s, 560 00:27:58,894 --> 00:28:01,941 AIDS did not exist in anybody's awareness. 561 00:28:06,467 --> 00:28:09,470 And then there was this thing called "gay cancer" 562 00:28:09,513 --> 00:28:12,560 in the Village, which just seems arbitrary and strange. 563 00:28:12,603 --> 00:28:14,170 And then suddenly it had a name -- AIDS. 564 00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:15,606 And then suddenly people were dying. 565 00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:18,305 And it was a slow-motion horror movie. 566 00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,568 I'd been diagnosed with AIDS-related complex 567 00:28:20,611 --> 00:28:22,091 for two and a half years now, 568 00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:24,006 and there's absolutely no drug I can take, 569 00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:26,095 and I'm slowly getting worse and worse. 570 00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:28,402 That's why we're here, to make a point. 571 00:28:28,445 --> 00:28:31,753 It took something which was potent and magical 572 00:28:31,797 --> 00:28:33,276 at that point -- sexuality -- 573 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,584 and mixed it with the possibility of death. 574 00:28:36,627 --> 00:28:38,629 I was just coming into my own as an adult 575 00:28:38,673 --> 00:28:40,980 during the AIDS crisis, and I moved to New York, 576 00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:46,507 where The Village Voicewas writing all of these articles 577 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:49,249 on the lack of response the government had 578 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:51,555 towards the AIDS crisis, and all these people were dying. 579 00:28:51,599 --> 00:28:52,992 You know, you were like, 580 00:28:53,035 --> 00:28:55,298 "Is being my true self gonna kill me?" 581 00:28:55,951 --> 00:28:57,213 The political climate was such 582 00:28:57,257 --> 00:28:58,649 that they didn't even speak of it. 583 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:00,521 And so AIDS was a very terrifying thing 584 00:29:00,564 --> 00:29:03,393 because there was so much that was unknown about it. 585 00:29:03,437 --> 00:29:05,569 It is hard to explain to people 586 00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:09,225 who didn't live through the AIDS crisis how bad it was. 587 00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:11,358 AIDS is surreptitiously spreading 588 00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:13,012 throughout our population, 589 00:29:13,055 --> 00:29:16,406 and yet we have no accurate measure of its scope. 590 00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:19,714 I've asked the Department of Health and Human Services 591 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:20,933 to add the AIDS virus 592 00:29:20,976 --> 00:29:23,457 to the list of contagious diseases 593 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,199 for which immigrants and aliens seeking permanent residence 594 00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:29,680 in the United States can be denied entry. 595 00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:34,642 You had people in Congress 596 00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:36,818 saying you could get AIDS from mosquitoes, 597 00:29:36,862 --> 00:29:39,516 water fountains, someone spitting at you. 598 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,605 You had idiots like me believing stories 599 00:29:41,649 --> 00:29:43,303 that someone at the mall was gonna scratch me 600 00:29:43,346 --> 00:29:44,957 with a needle and give me AIDS. 601 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,176 We were out of our minds with panic. 602 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:50,789 Movies like The Thing and The Fly 603 00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:54,749 acted as a release valve for the feelings of helplessness 604 00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:58,666 against a killer no one could see. 605 00:29:58,709 --> 00:30:00,755 And you find that vampire fiction pops up 606 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,410 and gets super popular when there's a disease around. 607 00:30:06,413 --> 00:30:08,937 Fright Nightis a perfect example, 608 00:30:08,981 --> 00:30:13,507 which really encapsulates all those fears of the sexually, 609 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:16,379 you know, dick-slinging dude who lives next door. 610 00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:21,645 Like, what's he's spreading around? 611 00:30:21,689 --> 00:30:25,040 When I did Fright Night, which would have been in '84, 612 00:30:25,084 --> 00:30:28,522 uh, there was just some kind of disease 613 00:30:28,565 --> 00:30:30,393 that seemed to be affecting a lot of gays, 614 00:30:30,437 --> 00:30:32,091 but nobody knew why. 615 00:30:36,747 --> 00:30:40,273 I was losing gay friends that I loved. 616 00:30:40,316 --> 00:30:43,363 And I lost somebody that I really cared about. 617 00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:45,060 But we -- it was a sickness. 618 00:30:45,104 --> 00:30:48,759 We knew it, but we didn't know what the hell it was. 619 00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,196 People were starting to die. 620 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:52,763 But the word "AIDS" was not around. 621 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:56,680 You don't have to be afraid of me. 622 00:30:56,724 --> 00:31:00,771 I know what it's like being different. 623 00:31:00,815 --> 00:31:05,037 Only they won't pick on you anymore or beat you up. 624 00:31:07,126 --> 00:31:08,344 I'll see to that. 625 00:31:10,781 --> 00:31:12,653 All you have to do is take my hand. 626 00:31:12,696 --> 00:31:14,873 When I had Evil Ed, 627 00:31:14,916 --> 00:31:17,136 and Jerry says, "Take my hand" -- 628 00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:20,269 Jerry Dandridge, the vampire, says, to Evil Ed, the boy, 629 00:31:20,313 --> 00:31:23,316 "Take my hand and I'll make sure they never bother you 630 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,971 or bully you in school again," 631 00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:27,929 and that was speaking to every gay kid out there 632 00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:31,541 that felt different and that couldn't come out about it. 633 00:31:38,635 --> 00:31:42,639 I put the gay overtones into it. 634 00:31:42,683 --> 00:31:45,686 Billy Cole's relationship with Jerry Dandridge -- 635 00:31:45,729 --> 00:31:48,645 he's the Guardian, the ghoul, 636 00:31:48,689 --> 00:31:50,734 the one who protects him during the day. 637 00:31:50,778 --> 00:31:53,128 But they could be lovers. Who knows? 638 00:31:56,958 --> 00:31:59,091 What are you -- 639 00:31:59,134 --> 00:32:00,919 All that was in there and it was meant 640 00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:03,965 to promote tolerance, you know, 641 00:32:04,009 --> 00:32:08,491 but in the day when that was not fashionable at all. 642 00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,886 So, yes, that was in there, and that was because 643 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:15,934 I was touched and I was moved because I was losing friends. 644 00:32:15,977 --> 00:32:19,415 Horror movies are where we talk about 645 00:32:19,459 --> 00:32:22,636 what we don't want to talk about in day-to-day life -- 646 00:32:22,679 --> 00:32:26,379 outcasts and marginalized people who society feared. 647 00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:29,904 And I think it's a very, very short step sideways 648 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:33,690 to get to gay men and the fear of them during the AIDS crisis 649 00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:37,520 and how sex and death and marginalized people 650 00:32:37,564 --> 00:32:39,435 were all linked together. 651 00:32:39,479 --> 00:32:40,741 When I came out with Fright Night, 652 00:32:40,784 --> 00:32:41,960 it was about vampires, 653 00:32:42,003 --> 00:32:43,396 and I went around with everybody, 654 00:32:43,439 --> 00:32:45,224 all the studios were saying to me, "Vampires? 655 00:32:45,267 --> 00:32:46,877 Nobody wants to see vampires." 656 00:32:46,921 --> 00:32:49,532 Because nobody wants to see vampire killers anymore, 657 00:32:49,576 --> 00:32:51,186 or vampires either. 658 00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:53,884 Apparently all they want are demented madmen 659 00:32:53,928 --> 00:32:57,105 running around in ski masks, hacking up young virgins. 660 00:32:57,149 --> 00:32:59,455 The vampire genre was dead and buried. 661 00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:03,546 One of the things that's also really interesting 662 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:06,593 about vampires is they're the monster that looks like us. 663 00:33:06,636 --> 00:33:09,422 They live amongst us undetected. 664 00:33:09,465 --> 00:33:11,206 Hello, Charlie. 665 00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:14,079 We don't know if our neighbor is a vampire. 666 00:33:14,122 --> 00:33:15,558 I mean, they don't go outdoors at night. 667 00:33:15,602 --> 00:33:16,820 There are no mirrors in their house. 668 00:33:16,864 --> 00:33:18,953 They don't cast a shadow. 669 00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:25,568 There's something very funny at the idea of that -- 670 00:33:25,612 --> 00:33:29,094 of a boy, of a teenage horror fan 671 00:33:29,137 --> 00:33:32,793 trying to convince the police, his mother, his friends, 672 00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:35,056 that there is a vampire living next door. 673 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:36,579 That's a funny idea. 674 00:33:36,623 --> 00:33:39,321 You hear that idea, and you smile and giggle. 675 00:33:39,365 --> 00:33:42,150 They did kill a girl over there. 676 00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:43,282 How late did you stay up studying? 677 00:33:43,325 --> 00:33:45,023 Mom, I'm not sick! 678 00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:46,850 The guy did have fangs, 679 00:33:46,894 --> 00:33:48,548 and a bat did fly over my head, 680 00:33:48,591 --> 00:33:50,550 and a second later, he stepped out of the shadows. 681 00:33:50,593 --> 00:33:52,465 Don't you see what that means? 682 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:54,075 Wait, let me guess. 683 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:55,598 What? 684 00:33:55,642 --> 00:33:58,558 He's a vampire. 685 00:33:58,601 --> 00:33:59,863 A what? 686 00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:01,561 If you look at Fright Night, 687 00:34:01,604 --> 00:34:04,999 it's Charley Brewster, the kid next door, 688 00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,567 trying to stop the bloodsucker next door. 689 00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:10,222 And his girlfriend is in danger of being seduced. 690 00:34:10,265 --> 00:34:14,269 But the real hero's journey is Peter Vincent. 691 00:34:15,966 --> 00:34:17,881 Peter Vincent's a great vampire killer 692 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:21,276 because he's a ham actor and his whole life 693 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,105 is built on what he considers a lie. 694 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:25,802 Vampire killers? There are no vampires. 695 00:34:25,846 --> 00:34:29,023 That's the most ridiculous thing in the world, and then... 696 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,025 - Come on, let's get out of here. - Just a minute. 697 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,809 That goes for you, too, Ed. 698 00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:34,463 I expect we have a lot of the same interests, 699 00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:36,813 you know, in horror movies and the occult. 700 00:34:39,947 --> 00:34:41,514 Something wrong, Mr. Vincent? 701 00:34:41,557 --> 00:34:44,865 Peter Vincent rises to the occasion. 702 00:34:44,908 --> 00:34:48,303 He goes in with Charley into the Dandridge house 703 00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:51,176 to do battle with the most ferocious vampire 704 00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:55,528 and his ghoulish assistant, Billy Cole. 705 00:34:55,571 --> 00:34:58,574 He finds his courage. He's The Cowardly Lion. 706 00:34:58,618 --> 00:35:01,708 He does that because he likes the kids. 707 00:35:01,751 --> 00:35:04,058 He likes Charley, and he likes Amy. 708 00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,060 And if he doesn't help them, 709 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,802 Jerry Dandridge is gonna turn her into a vampire. 710 00:35:08,845 --> 00:35:12,240 A horror movie is effective in direct proportion 711 00:35:12,284 --> 00:35:14,764 to how much you care about the people 712 00:35:14,808 --> 00:35:17,071 whose lives are in danger. 713 00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,378 Ah! Ah! 714 00:35:19,421 --> 00:35:21,162 Aaaah! 715 00:35:21,206 --> 00:35:23,208 No! 716 00:35:31,607 --> 00:35:35,698 In 1987, the criticism of aggressive capitalism 717 00:35:35,742 --> 00:35:37,135 in the Oliver Stone film Wall Street 718 00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,180 was somewhat lost on a public 719 00:35:39,224 --> 00:35:43,010 that saw glamour and status in the pursuit of more money 720 00:35:43,053 --> 00:35:47,580 or drugs or cars or everything, 721 00:35:47,623 --> 00:35:52,150 a culture that celebrated excess. 722 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:56,806 But horror films like Poltergeistand Society 723 00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:58,852 made their own commentary 724 00:35:58,895 --> 00:36:02,290 about America's conspicuous consumerism 725 00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:05,075 and economic inequality. 726 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,601 Just a year afterWall Street was released, 727 00:36:08,644 --> 00:36:11,908 They Live tackled America's existential crisis 728 00:36:11,952 --> 00:36:14,389 of averse and greed 729 00:36:14,433 --> 00:36:17,740 and the conflict between the haves and the have nots. 730 00:36:18,524 --> 00:36:23,050 I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. 731 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:29,012 And I'm all out of bubble gum. 732 00:36:29,056 --> 00:36:32,320 My favorite two films are The Shiningand They Live. 733 00:36:32,364 --> 00:36:34,104 Like, the first time I ever heard of They Live 734 00:36:34,148 --> 00:36:37,238 was a friend of mine in middle school, 735 00:36:37,282 --> 00:36:40,720 and he couldn't remember the name of the movie. 736 00:36:40,763 --> 00:36:42,374 But he kept telling me about -- he's like, 737 00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:44,114 "There's this film where this guy, 738 00:36:44,158 --> 00:36:46,769 he puts on a pair of sunglasses and he sees aliens." 739 00:36:46,813 --> 00:36:50,033 And I thought he was completely making it up. 740 00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:51,557 I've got one that can see. 741 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:57,389 They Liveis sort of a movie 742 00:36:57,432 --> 00:36:59,956 that's light-years ahead of its time. 743 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,308 It's really a film about the reality that we live in. 744 00:37:03,351 --> 00:37:06,659 They Liveis incredibly about Reaganomics. 745 00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:08,313 Like, that is the focus of it. 746 00:37:12,795 --> 00:37:15,189 We see this guy. He is working-class. 747 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,758 He's going from gig to gig, trying to start -- find jobs. 748 00:37:18,801 --> 00:37:22,065 The movie even opens with him in kind of an encampment 749 00:37:22,109 --> 00:37:24,894 in downtown L.A., trying to find another gig 750 00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:28,071 and figure out what's next. 751 00:37:28,115 --> 00:37:29,290 And through a course of events, 752 00:37:29,334 --> 00:37:31,118 he happens upon a pair of sunglasses 753 00:37:31,161 --> 00:37:34,121 that literally reveal the world to him 754 00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:35,905 and show him that everything 755 00:37:35,949 --> 00:37:39,822 that he has believed about society is utter shit. 756 00:37:39,866 --> 00:37:43,696 You're always looking for a visual way in movies 757 00:37:43,739 --> 00:37:45,263 to get your point across. 758 00:37:50,093 --> 00:37:52,357 And in this case, in They Live, 759 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,010 I wanted to show the difference 760 00:37:54,054 --> 00:37:57,144 between the reality that we all live in 761 00:37:57,187 --> 00:38:00,495 and the reality that exists for the aliens, 762 00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,454 which is very different. 763 00:38:02,497 --> 00:38:05,587 So I came up with sunglasses. 764 00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:06,980 What's your problem? 765 00:38:07,023 --> 00:38:09,069 With the glasses on, you see the truth. 766 00:38:09,112 --> 00:38:13,116 You take the glasses off, it's all deception. 767 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,510 I said, what's your problem? 768 00:38:15,554 --> 00:38:17,947 The first time I saw 769 00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:20,080 you know, the reveal, it's like, 770 00:38:20,123 --> 00:38:21,908 "That shit's creepy." 771 00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,350 I was like, you know, "What was the inspiration 772 00:38:29,394 --> 00:38:32,179 for that," you know? And I asked John and he said, 773 00:38:32,222 --> 00:38:34,094 "Well, it came to me in a dream one night," 774 00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:36,879 and I said, "Whoa. I don't want to be in your head." 775 00:38:36,923 --> 00:38:39,534 Well, the role in They Live of John Nada 776 00:38:39,578 --> 00:38:41,493 was a working man. 777 00:38:41,536 --> 00:38:44,060 He was a guy who works with his hands. 778 00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:45,888 He was working poor. 779 00:38:45,932 --> 00:38:50,850 So a movie star-type guy doesn't -- I don't believe. 780 00:38:50,893 --> 00:38:54,593 But Roddy I believed 'cause he came from the streets. 781 00:38:54,636 --> 00:38:57,073 He had some mileage on him. 782 00:38:57,117 --> 00:38:58,901 He was perfect for the role. 783 00:38:58,945 --> 00:39:01,948 Frank and Nada met as two homeless guys. 784 00:39:01,991 --> 00:39:03,515 There's a place over on Fourth Street. 785 00:39:03,558 --> 00:39:05,255 They got hot food and showers. 786 00:39:05,299 --> 00:39:07,606 I'm going that way if you want me to show you. 787 00:39:09,434 --> 00:39:12,959 And what we represented was the working homeless. 788 00:39:13,002 --> 00:39:15,091 Nobody ever talks about that. 789 00:39:15,135 --> 00:39:17,180 But there are a lot of guys who are homeless. 790 00:39:17,224 --> 00:39:19,269 They just can't afford housing. 791 00:39:19,313 --> 00:39:25,406 It reeks of how our government does not take care of us. 792 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:26,842 In the richest country in the world, 793 00:39:26,886 --> 00:39:28,931 still you have all this, you know, 794 00:39:28,975 --> 00:39:31,107 devastating homelessness. 795 00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:34,459 You have, you know, a lot of haves. 796 00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:39,202 And nobody wants to deal with the have nots. 797 00:39:39,246 --> 00:39:41,596 They Livedoesn't feel like a lot of '80s horror films, 798 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,294 because when we look at 1980s, what we're seeing 799 00:39:44,338 --> 00:39:46,253 is these really flashy horror films, 800 00:39:46,296 --> 00:39:48,124 and they're about upper middle-class kids 801 00:39:48,168 --> 00:39:50,779 who are ripped from their, you know, fancy lives 802 00:39:50,823 --> 00:39:52,651 and forced to deal with a killer. 803 00:39:52,694 --> 00:39:56,306 But They Liveis talking about poor society from the beginning. 804 00:39:56,350 --> 00:40:00,485 It's a marginalized group who is fighting this massive machine. 805 00:40:00,528 --> 00:40:02,225 Look, you crazy mother -- 806 00:40:02,269 --> 00:40:04,706 - Put these on. - Hey! Stay away from me. 807 00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:07,056 I'm telling you, you dumb son of a -- 808 00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,928 I think, like, the thing that I found most impressive 809 00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:12,627 about the film initially was the big fight scene... 810 00:40:16,022 --> 00:40:18,807 ...that they just did this long sequence without any music, 811 00:40:18,851 --> 00:40:21,723 and it's just these characters beating up each other. 812 00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:23,551 I don't want to fight you. Stop it! 813 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:25,118 No! 814 00:40:25,161 --> 00:40:29,035 Roddy Piper, the actor who plays John Nada, 815 00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:30,819 is a professional wrestler. 816 00:40:30,863 --> 00:40:34,910 And what better opportunity than to do a very long, 817 00:40:34,954 --> 00:40:38,784 involved, extended fight scene? 818 00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:41,264 And Keith David was his costar, 819 00:40:41,308 --> 00:40:44,485 and Keith was absolutely ready to go. 820 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,318 So they rehearsed for a month and a half, 821 00:40:51,361 --> 00:40:53,842 and in the backyard of our office. 822 00:40:53,886 --> 00:40:56,323 Jeff Imada was the stunt coordinator, 823 00:40:56,366 --> 00:40:57,759 and he worked with them, and they came up 824 00:40:57,803 --> 00:40:59,326 with this big fight, 825 00:40:59,369 --> 00:41:00,283 and we shot it in an alley, downtown L.A. 826 00:41:08,596 --> 00:41:10,163 God, we had a good time. 827 00:41:10,206 --> 00:41:12,905 I loved working on that fight. It was great. 828 00:41:12,948 --> 00:41:16,996 The worst part was fighting in that stinky-ass alleyway. 829 00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:19,215 They had to put rubber on the floor 830 00:41:19,259 --> 00:41:20,913 and paint it like it was the ground 831 00:41:20,956 --> 00:41:23,916 so we wouldn't have to be on a nasty, you know -- 832 00:41:23,959 --> 00:41:26,484 'cause downtown L.A. is no fun. 833 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,531 Fuck! 834 00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:33,795 And it wasn't until years later that I looked at that 835 00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:35,580 and I realized that the reason that works 836 00:41:35,623 --> 00:41:37,582 is because it's not a pointless fight scene, 837 00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:40,802 is that that's a fight scene that represents 838 00:41:40,846 --> 00:41:42,630 sort of the reality we live in. 839 00:41:42,674 --> 00:41:45,677 It represents the differences in people's political beliefs 840 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:50,072 and the fact that you can't change somebody's mind 841 00:41:50,116 --> 00:41:51,160 in a very simple way. 842 00:41:53,989 --> 00:41:56,035 That's the American way. 843 00:41:56,078 --> 00:41:59,081 They want us to fight with each other. 844 00:41:59,125 --> 00:42:01,562 But our cause is common. 845 00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:05,305 They pit the poor Black man against the poor white man 846 00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:08,221 and tell them that he's better than him, he deserves -- 847 00:42:08,264 --> 00:42:11,529 when, you know, together, you're far more powerful 848 00:42:11,572 --> 00:42:14,314 than you are apart. 849 00:42:20,886 --> 00:42:26,935 They Liveis about what happens in our American society 850 00:42:26,979 --> 00:42:30,199 when greed is unchecked... 851 00:42:32,114 --> 00:42:38,904 and the society loses its core values. 852 00:42:38,947 --> 00:42:41,123 The underground terrorist network 853 00:42:41,167 --> 00:42:43,909 has been destroyed here on the west coast. 854 00:42:43,952 --> 00:42:48,174 Well, I've tried to avoid statements in my movies 855 00:42:48,217 --> 00:42:50,916 since I think they don't work. 856 00:42:50,959 --> 00:42:54,093 But in this case, in the case of "They Live," 857 00:42:54,136 --> 00:42:58,619 I was so fed up with Reaganomics. 858 00:42:58,663 --> 00:43:02,841 What I mean by that is unrestrained capitalism. 859 00:43:04,669 --> 00:43:06,061 It was a cry in the darkness 860 00:43:06,105 --> 00:43:09,282 because Reagan was enormously popular 861 00:43:09,325 --> 00:43:11,458 and no one else saw things the way I did. 862 00:43:11,501 --> 00:43:14,722 And I just had to. I had to do it. 863 00:43:14,766 --> 00:43:16,855 - ...like shit. - What happened? 864 00:43:16,898 --> 00:43:19,684 So that's what They Live is about. 865 00:43:19,727 --> 00:43:22,121 It's about the fact 866 00:43:22,164 --> 00:43:24,079 that Reaganism is controlled by aliens. 867 00:43:24,123 --> 00:43:26,342 You're moving on. 868 00:43:26,386 --> 00:43:28,954 Hey, what's wrong, baby? 869 00:43:33,915 --> 00:43:36,657 By the late '80s, after a decade of hits, 870 00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:38,311 the great slasher franchises 871 00:43:38,354 --> 00:43:41,053 seemed to have burned themselves out. 872 00:43:41,096 --> 00:43:43,838 The genre seemingly stalled. 873 00:43:43,882 --> 00:43:48,321 By the early 1990s, Gen-Xers turned disinterest 874 00:43:48,364 --> 00:43:50,584 into a cultural trend. 875 00:43:50,628 --> 00:43:52,891 Disaffected and cynical, 876 00:43:52,934 --> 00:43:54,762 the so-called "slacker generation" 877 00:43:54,806 --> 00:43:58,200 was bored of everything, including genre films. 878 00:43:58,244 --> 00:44:00,681 The horror movie tropes were played out. 879 00:44:00,725 --> 00:44:02,509 Audiences knew all the rules, 880 00:44:02,552 --> 00:44:05,425 or at least they thought they did. 881 00:44:05,468 --> 00:44:07,253 Well, I'm getting ready to watch a video. 882 00:44:07,296 --> 00:44:08,994 Really? What? 883 00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:10,996 Oh, just some scary movie. 884 00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:13,520 - You like scary movies? - Uh-huh. 885 00:44:13,563 --> 00:44:16,436 In 1996, I was working on my PhD 886 00:44:16,479 --> 00:44:18,090 at Florida State University. 887 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,009 There was a knock on my door. 888 00:44:24,052 --> 00:44:25,488 A guy I know from class, he said, 889 00:44:25,532 --> 00:44:26,881 "Hey, man, I'm taking you to a movie." 890 00:44:26,925 --> 00:44:28,709 And I said, "No, I'm halfway through a story. 891 00:44:28,753 --> 00:44:30,711 I gotta do this," and he said, "No, I'm taking you to a movie." 892 00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:32,017 And it was Scream. 893 00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:33,845 Why do you want to know my name? 894 00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:36,717 'Cause I want to know who I'm looking at. 895 00:44:36,761 --> 00:44:39,415 And I was there myself alone for the next six nights. 896 00:44:39,459 --> 00:44:41,548 I saw Screamseven nights in the theater, 897 00:44:41,591 --> 00:44:43,506 in its first run, I guess. 898 00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:46,727 And ever since then, I watch it probably every four weeks, 899 00:44:46,771 --> 00:44:47,728 if not more. 900 00:44:47,772 --> 00:44:49,904 I think it is fairly genius. 901 00:44:49,948 --> 00:44:51,993 Is this some kind of joke? 902 00:44:52,037 --> 00:44:54,735 More of a game, really. 903 00:44:54,779 --> 00:44:56,432 The idea for Scream was a little twofold. 904 00:44:56,476 --> 00:45:00,393 I wrote a one-act play in college about a young girl 905 00:45:00,436 --> 00:45:02,090 on the phone with a serial killer, 906 00:45:02,134 --> 00:45:04,571 and it just sat in a box and nothing ever happened to it. 907 00:45:04,614 --> 00:45:07,356 And I forgot all about it, and then years later, 908 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,403 I was housesitting for a friend, and I walked into the den 909 00:45:10,446 --> 00:45:12,535 and I saw that the window was open. 910 00:45:12,579 --> 00:45:15,364 And I went, "Has this window been open the whole time?" 911 00:45:15,408 --> 00:45:17,323 And I got so terrified and called a friend of mine up. 912 00:45:17,366 --> 00:45:19,542 And I said, "All right, I think someone's in the house." 913 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,850 So I got a knife and I walked through the house, 914 00:45:22,894 --> 00:45:24,591 just like a final girl, 915 00:45:24,634 --> 00:45:26,811 and I was looking through the -- in the shower. 916 00:45:26,854 --> 00:45:29,161 I was looking under the bed. I was looking in the closet. 917 00:45:29,204 --> 00:45:31,729 And I got so scared, and my friend was on the phone, 918 00:45:31,772 --> 00:45:33,687 going... 919 00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:35,471 Terrifying me, scared. 920 00:45:35,515 --> 00:45:37,343 And then we got into this big debate about horror films, 921 00:45:37,386 --> 00:45:38,779 and then I went, "Oh! 922 00:45:38,823 --> 00:45:41,303 I wrote a comedy about this in college." 923 00:45:41,347 --> 00:45:45,133 And so I dug it out and I brushed it off. 924 00:45:45,177 --> 00:45:46,265 That was the first scene. 925 00:45:48,963 --> 00:45:51,357 Screamwas another one of those kind of like, you know, 926 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,229 touchstone kind of horror movies for me growing up, 927 00:45:54,273 --> 00:45:56,841 one of the best theatrical experiences I ever had. 928 00:45:56,884 --> 00:46:00,670 And I was so blown away by especially the first 929 00:46:00,714 --> 00:46:03,064 like six or seven minutes or whatever it is 930 00:46:03,108 --> 00:46:04,413 with Drew Barrymore. 931 00:46:04,457 --> 00:46:05,937 Drew Barrymore opening up a horror film 932 00:46:05,980 --> 00:46:07,416 and then dying, you know, in 10 minutes -- 933 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:09,810 that was unprecedented. 934 00:46:09,854 --> 00:46:13,118 That's the alternate ending to the movie. 935 00:46:13,161 --> 00:46:15,207 She lives. 936 00:46:15,250 --> 00:46:17,818 It was a calculated risk, and we didn't know whether 937 00:46:17,862 --> 00:46:20,995 the audience would even forgive us for that. 938 00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:22,605 They did, thankfully. But yeah. 939 00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:25,217 It was a very risky film in many, many ways. 940 00:46:25,260 --> 00:46:28,524 That first opening scene was like, I think -- 941 00:46:28,568 --> 00:46:30,526 I think still probably one of the best sequences 942 00:46:30,570 --> 00:46:32,354 in any movie, not just horror movies. 943 00:46:32,398 --> 00:46:34,400 It's one of my favorite of all time. 944 00:46:34,443 --> 00:46:38,839 I think that the film resonated with a large audience 945 00:46:38,883 --> 00:46:44,410 because it was this beautiful blend of camp and culture. 946 00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:50,677 It felt extremely relevant. 947 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,374 Okay, bye now. 948 00:46:52,418 --> 00:46:55,856 If you hang up on me, you'll die just like your mother! 949 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:57,510 I remember my parents -- 950 00:46:57,553 --> 00:46:59,207 like, when my dad got a cellphone in the car, 951 00:46:59,251 --> 00:47:00,861 like, that was, like, mind-blowing, you know? 952 00:47:00,905 --> 00:47:03,690 Like, the killer having a cellphone in your yard? 953 00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:06,258 It's like, what? 954 00:47:06,301 --> 00:47:08,695 Like, that is brand-new for the killer to be like 955 00:47:08,738 --> 00:47:11,219 also really, like, technologically savvy. 956 00:47:11,263 --> 00:47:13,178 Horrifying. 957 00:47:15,615 --> 00:47:19,880 Before Scream,slasher movies had kind of existed 958 00:47:19,924 --> 00:47:22,883 in a side world where there were no slasher movies. 959 00:47:22,927 --> 00:47:24,624 What Screamdid was it allowed 960 00:47:24,667 --> 00:47:27,061 that Halloweenexisted, that Jason Voorhees existed, 961 00:47:27,105 --> 00:47:30,021 that this whole history of slashers existed. 962 00:47:30,064 --> 00:47:32,806 And, to me, that was revolutionary. 963 00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:34,416 You know, Screamwas sort of the first movie 964 00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:39,160 that I feel like actually talked about horror movies so openly 965 00:47:39,204 --> 00:47:42,120 and allowed them to be exposed. 966 00:47:42,163 --> 00:47:44,557 There are certain rules that one must abide by 967 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,603 in order to successfully survive a horror movie. 968 00:47:47,647 --> 00:47:49,779 The rules of horror -- I had the luxury of the '80s. 969 00:47:49,823 --> 00:47:51,259 I had the luxury of all the tropes. 970 00:47:51,303 --> 00:47:52,826 When I went into Scream, I was able to look 971 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:55,394 at all the movies that had come before it 972 00:47:55,437 --> 00:47:57,004 and sort of acknowledge them. 973 00:47:57,048 --> 00:48:00,703 Scream revitalized the genre. 974 00:48:00,747 --> 00:48:05,099 The meta, self-referential winks and nods to the horror films 975 00:48:05,143 --> 00:48:06,666 the audience had grown up watching 976 00:48:06,709 --> 00:48:09,669 thrilled fans and sparked renewed interest 977 00:48:09,712 --> 00:48:11,236 in scary movies. 978 00:48:11,279 --> 00:48:13,934 Scream treated its audience with respect 979 00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:17,155 by acknowledging all the clichés of the genre 980 00:48:17,198 --> 00:48:21,115 and then using them anyway to scare the hell out of them. 981 00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:24,902 Once again, clever filmmakers were elevating 982 00:48:24,945 --> 00:48:26,686 and refreshing the form, 983 00:48:26,729 --> 00:48:30,124 and the audience was the true winner. 984 00:48:30,168 --> 00:48:31,647 You know, what I love about Scream 985 00:48:31,691 --> 00:48:33,780 is that it's a love letter to the genre, 986 00:48:33,823 --> 00:48:36,478 but it's a love letter that calls out the formula, 987 00:48:36,522 --> 00:48:39,351 the conventions, the excess of the genre. 988 00:48:39,394 --> 00:48:41,266 But it's not the kind of parody 989 00:48:41,309 --> 00:48:43,311 that undercuts and seeks to destroy. 990 00:48:43,355 --> 00:48:45,748 It's a kind of parody that hopes to burn off the excess 991 00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:49,013 and let the genre move through better. 992 00:48:49,056 --> 00:48:51,450 This is the moment when the supposedly dead killer 993 00:48:51,493 --> 00:48:54,757 comes back to life for one last scare. 994 00:48:54,801 --> 00:48:56,716 Ah! 995 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,329 Not in my movie. 996 00:49:01,373 --> 00:49:05,159 I think Scream,because it was able to summarize 997 00:49:05,203 --> 00:49:07,945 all the great things that we loved about these movies 998 00:49:07,988 --> 00:49:13,037 and kind of also do a really good version of that itself, 999 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,256 it's almost like the genre really peaked there 1000 00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:17,737 because, you know, after Scream, 1001 00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:21,523 there wasn't a ton to say 'cause they kind of said it all. 1002 00:49:21,567 --> 00:49:23,569 They at least summarized it. 1003 00:49:23,612 --> 00:49:24,874 First test screening we had, 1004 00:49:24,918 --> 00:49:26,311 and the only test screening we had, 1005 00:49:26,354 --> 00:49:28,008 the test scores went through the roof. 1006 00:49:28,052 --> 00:49:30,576 I just had the feeling filming certain scenes 1007 00:49:30,619 --> 00:49:33,144 that this was extraordinary stuff, you know? 1008 00:49:33,187 --> 00:49:34,623 I had no idea how big it would be. 1009 00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:37,017 I had no idea its everlasting impression 1010 00:49:37,061 --> 00:49:39,977 or its everlasting effect that it would have on horror. 1011 00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:42,544 I just wrote a movie I wanted to see. 1012 00:49:42,588 --> 00:49:44,155 I was just trying to get noticed. 1013 00:49:44,198 --> 00:49:45,808 I was just trying to get a career. 1014 00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,767 I just wanted to tell a story. 1015 00:49:47,810 --> 00:49:49,247 I wanted to tell a horror story. 1016 00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:51,727 It's been always my goal to do my Halloween. 1017 00:49:51,771 --> 00:49:54,295 I look back at it as just a bunch of memories, you know? 1018 00:49:54,339 --> 00:49:56,341 It was all my memories with Wes Craven. 1019 00:49:56,384 --> 00:49:57,907 He was always a mentor to me. 1020 00:49:57,951 --> 00:50:00,040 He was always selfless and giving of his time, 1021 00:50:00,084 --> 00:50:03,043 and he always had answers to my questions. 1022 00:50:03,087 --> 00:50:04,740 I remember asking him, like, 1023 00:50:04,784 --> 00:50:06,046 "What does it feel like to be the master of horror?" 1024 00:50:06,090 --> 00:50:07,700 And he would look at me and go, "I don't know. 1025 00:50:07,743 --> 00:50:09,615 You should ask John Carpenter." 1026 00:50:09,658 --> 00:50:11,573 I think horror is a funhouse mirror 1027 00:50:11,617 --> 00:50:17,014 that reflects society's anxieties and dreads back at us. 1028 00:50:19,364 --> 00:50:21,931 Horror is most vital in times of stress, 1029 00:50:21,975 --> 00:50:26,414 be it political, economic, environmental, whatever it is. 1030 00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:28,503 I think horror is always a pulse on our society. 1031 00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:30,244 It never really goes away, you know? 1032 00:50:30,288 --> 00:50:32,029 So horror stories allow us to process through 1033 00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:33,552 from beginning to end 1034 00:50:33,595 --> 00:50:35,467 of whatever the bad experiences in our life. 1035 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:37,686 Horror lets us imagine 1036 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:39,079 a light at the end of the tunnel. 81840

Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.