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I'm the best in the west I'm the best in the west I'm
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the best in the west
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he started to influence
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every player in the whole United States
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they admired him and they adored him
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and they tried to imitate him
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and they couldn't imitate him
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and he never had any show
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display of ego and he wasn't a show off in any way
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he never handled his horn like other horn players do
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you know when they put it way up in the air and all
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all that stuff when he's hitting a beautiful phrase
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no he kept it right down here
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where he liked it
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and where he could hear it and loved it
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and he'd forget about whoever was listening
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or anything else and he was just big Spider Beck
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a great musician with a soul
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and that soul shown right there at the end of that horn
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big Spider Bank
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he played melodies that no one else had thought of
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melodies that were spun from the mind of a quiet man
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who poured all his feelings into an astonishing music
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and he did it all in such a short time
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Pix was born in Davenport Iowa
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a small town on the western bank of the Mississippi
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the first bideback arrived in the mid 1850s
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from Germany
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one of the thousands of European settlers
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determined to make a good life for himself
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within a generation
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the Byler Back family had become prominent members
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of an industrious community
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Bismarck Biederbeck
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was manager of the East Davenport Fuel Company
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he built a comfortable house at 19
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34 grand Avenue for his family
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on March 10th 19
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3 their youngest child
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Bix was born
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it was a musical home
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Bix's mother was an accomplished pianist
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a lover of classical music
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his sister Mary Louise
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remembers how early his interest in music
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became apparent
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he used to sit on the floor and push himself
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with his heels in time with the music
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this was before he could walk
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and he'd push himself so far
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that he'd get caught under chairs and things like that
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the first thing he played in his whole life
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was a song called Mister Dooley
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when he was 2 years old
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and he wasn't able to climb up on the stool
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so he stood on the floor
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and played with his hands over his head
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we were so astonished my mother was so thrilled
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well they were a German family
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like all of ours
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you had to be dressed nicely all the time
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and that's the way the children were all brought up
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Helen Bettendorff
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was a friend of the Biederbecke family
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this friend of mine George von Mar
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remembers him as a a
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a boy
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maybe 6 7 years old
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coming to his family's house
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the family were playing poker
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and Bix was always playing the piano
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and they finally said get that child off that piano
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we can't play poker while he's
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trying to play the piano
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he didn't conform like uh we all had to
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when he was 7 the town paper did a feature on him
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reporting that the musical
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Wonder Child could play any selection he heard
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many times
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neighbors invited him over to play a serenade
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they rewarded him with nickels
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Bix was the envy of all the kids on the block
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he always had a pocket full of change
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he and the piano any piano became inseparable
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his mother was delighted by his talent
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but she wanted to make sure it was properly developed
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so she sent him to a reputable music teacher
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the uh
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music teacher said
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I don't think you better send him anymore
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he said I can't teach him anything
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he said whatever I uh
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give him to play he'll play it the next time
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he comes back with improvements
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that was the end of piano lessons for him
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once again VIX was left alone to play as he wanted
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life in Davenport could be pretty dull
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by far
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the most exciting place to be was down by the river
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here you waited for the boats to dock
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to try to sneak aboard
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to listen to the jazz bands
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Bix couldn't resist the energy of jazz
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the Levy became his hangout
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up the river from New Orleans
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the boats brought King Oliver
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fake Marables group with Louis Armstrong on cornet
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Louis made a big impression on Bix
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sometimes Vicks went down to the levee alone
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sometimes with other Davenport
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kids
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one was Fitz Putzie
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we'd go down there in the evening
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and sit there on the levee
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and it was you know
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it was a lot of fun to be with Bix
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because of his enthusiasm
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he could be he could get interested
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and be enthused over hearing one note
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that was a little unusual
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Fritz stood out for his musical experience
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he'd played cornet professionally
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a six week job on a riverboat
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when Bix heard that Fritz wanted to sell his cornet
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he quickly made an offer he said
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how much do you want for your cornet
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and I said oh
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I don't know Bex
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uh oh possibly $35
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well he said
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Gee Fritz
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I haven't got $35 he said
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I can give you 15 right now
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and maybe I can give you $8 a month so we made a deal
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now that he owned his own instrument
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he could play along to the one jazz record
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that had made its way into the Biederbeck household
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it was Tiger Rag
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played by the Original Dixieland Jazz Band
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mother and dad used to go to the movies
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and leave us alone and he would
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uh
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um
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we'd he'd sit there and play and play and play
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he would put his ear in
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as close as he could into the Victrola
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play the horn down
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so that he wouldn't bump it in the Victrola
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and then just play along with it
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whenever the Original Dixieland Jazz Band came out with
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a new record as Bix used to put it
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he took a lesson
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he could copy each part of the five piece organization
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and he
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he had such a wonderful ear that he could do that
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as often as he could Bix sat in with bands around town
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he disappeared for hours missing meals
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sometimes even classes
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his parents disapproved
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but Putzi and the Buckley Novelty Orchestra
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were so impressed by his playing
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that they invited him to join their band for a big job
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the problem was to get the job
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they all had to join the union
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that meant passing the union exam
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everyone in the band could read music
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everyone except Bix
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the day came to take the exam
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when Bix got there why
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he was pretty nervous
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and he said look fellas
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he said we still have an hour before we go to the union
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he said can we have one rehearse
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one more rehearsal
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well we knew there was a piano up the YMCA
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and so we went up there set up our music racks
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went through this routine that we'd practiced
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and then went to the union headquarters
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and we were told to set up
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and a fellow named Roy Kouts
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incidentally was the man who was giving us our audition
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so we went through about three numbers
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and I thought it came off quite well
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but then the blow that killed his face
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when Mister Caunt said now I'd like to take you
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fellows individually
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and instead of
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taking a piece that Bix might have been familiar with
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and he might have struggled through it
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one of the popular dance numbers of the day
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he brought out an arrangement
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I can remember this big long sheet of music
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Bix not knowing what the piece was
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why the piano
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was playing an accompaniment to a cornet solo
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and Bix was playing the piano part
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so he didn't get very far
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until Roy Kouts beat his baton on the
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on the music rack and he said stop
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he said young fellow
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he said don't play
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don't play the piano part
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play your part well
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of course this
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this broke Bix up he couldn't
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he couldn't read
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and uh
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he put his arm around Bix
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because Bix was beginning to fall apart
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and actually tears formed in his eyes
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he felt so badly because he knew that he was gonna
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he was the force that we needed to get this job
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and he knew that if he couldn't make the union
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we wouldn't get the job and this is what happened
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of course so Roy Cut said
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now young man
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he said I
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I think you should go home
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and you should practice for six months
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and then come back and try it again
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his parents were relieved
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they hoped the episode would cure Bix of his ambitions
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but there was no way they or anything could stop him
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his girlfriend Vera Korn
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recalls the reaction they didn't understand it
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hardly anyone did
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when he would play in high school
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we'd have an auditorium and
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and a um
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a little entertainment and sometimes he would play
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and it it left everyone
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well just kind of
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a gas nobody really understood
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what he was trying to say with his music
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and I didn't either for that matter
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but I liked it but um
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it was so different and no one knew anything like it
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nobody had ever heard anything like it
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school meant less and less
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he did try to please his parents
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he loved his mother his first musical inspiration
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and respected his father but music was first
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his grades slipped he missed too many classes
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failed too many subjects
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in his junior year at Davenport High
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in desperation Bismarck Badebek
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enrolled his wayward son at the Lake Forest Academy
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a boarding school
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known for its high academic and disciplinary standards
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Bismarck hoped that the school would straighten him out
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Bix did his best to fit in
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he joined all the right activities baseball
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football and of course the school orchestra
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before long one fact of Lake Forest life
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which Bismarck hadn't considered
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was dominating Bix's time
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Lake Forest was 35 miles north of Chicago
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Chicago was now the first city of jazz
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Bix regularly caught the night train to Chicago
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and sat in with his favorite bands in speakeasies
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prohibition had been enforced for three years
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as a result there were speakeasies everywhere
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at the Fryers Inn the
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New Orleans Rhythm Kings played New Orleans jazz
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in its best tradition
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he also discovered the black bands
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of Chicago's South Side
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but
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the school decided that his conduct was unacceptable
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Vicks was asked to leave Lake Forest
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just a year after his parents
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had set their son on the straight and narrow
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Vicks was happily jamming around Chicago
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by October 1st, 1923
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VIX had Learned enough to fake his music reading skills
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and he won his musician's union card
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That November at age 20
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he joined his first professional band
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called the Wolverines
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Jazzy Blues
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features Bix on his first recorded cornet solo
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the vitality and insistent energy of the Wolverines
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music startled everyone
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especially other musicians
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after cutting their first records
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the Wolverines spent two months
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playing gigs in smaller cities
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across Ohio Illinois and Indiana
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eventually they headed for Indianapolis
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capital of Indiana
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here Bix met Charlie Davis
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a young piano player who was leader of his own group
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when we heard VIX the first time
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we were in trouble
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we were in trouble for a second band for the um
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I think it was the Butler junior prom
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uh in 1924
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so we thought Jeepers great
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here's a here's a chance to get the second band
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so we hired Bix and the boys
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the Wolverines to play
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they play in the small ballroom
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at the Indianapolis Athletic Club
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I'll never forget the evening
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because started off pretty good
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we took our boys in the big ballroom
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we played Big Eddie sang couple of funny songs
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played some sweet music
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couple were dancing
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very nice uh
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polite applause everything's fine
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and then the Wolverines started in the small ballroom
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and from the first note they played
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I don't think anybody ever came to hear our band
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the rest of the evening and that was really
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it was really kind kind of embarrassing
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but our boys were right right with the crowd
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watching these boys play
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on sax in the Charlie Davis Band was Regan Carey
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when he would play
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he was all by himself
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he didn't know anybody else was around
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and he played to the best of his knowledge and ability
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that course that he was doing
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and then when he'd get through
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he'd put his horn down on his knee
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and sometimes think about it
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for 16 bars or maybe a whole course
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just think about what he done
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and maybe what he should have done someplace else and
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and didn't do
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all the thing was special about Bix Beiderbecke
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I would say he was a man that lived in a dream
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Bix
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when he was playing
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it just seemed to me like he'd
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his focus he'd focus on a spot
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play that spot and where these
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where these notes came from where
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where they came from uh
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if there was anybody that could compose
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in the actual playing it was Bix
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forty miles south of Indianapolis lay Bloomington
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home of the university of Indiana
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the Wolverines ever on
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the lookout for new audiences turned up on campus
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Composer
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Hoagy Carmichael was studying law at the university
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I was at the piano just messing around
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and in walked Vic and I didn't see him and all
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and we came to a break
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you know how you come to a break when you're
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you're playing a tune and there's a
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there's a stop my bix took the break
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and I didn't know he was even standing back there
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and he hit four notes and I'm telling you
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I jumped to to the ceiling
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never heard anything as beautiful and wonderful
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and it it struck me so deeply
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that I went over and fell down on the divan
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to get my breath now
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can you believe that well
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I was that much of a uh
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alligator they call them alligators
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people who love to uh
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watch and hear people play
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you know stand in front of the band
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you know and clap their hands and carry on
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well I was one of the worst
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when I heard Bix hit those notes
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then George Johnson my dear friend
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suggested that I play a little piano for Bix
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well I thought sure
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I'll play some piano for Bix
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I'll show him a thing or two and
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and I did play a little and I think he liked it
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but he certainly didn't jump up and down like a monkey
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like I thought he might and then George said
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the Bix wants you to play something for Ogie and uh
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Bix
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sat down and started to play one of his compositions
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well I nearly passed out again
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went over to the Divan
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and lay down for a little bit to get my breath
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that's how good it was and it was
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I don't know which one of his compositions it was
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but it was a great revelation to me
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to find out he could play piano
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as well as he could play a cornet
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there were there were a few
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few days when the Wolverine boys
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including Bix were around in the Naples and they
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they spent quite a lot of their time in the Indiana
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of the Ohio theater with us
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across the alley from the theater
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is a little rehearsal room
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and a kind of an old beat up piano back there
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that Bix used to love to come play he played one tune
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that I had never heard before
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I never heard
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I had never heard anybody play it since except I
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I recorded it myself in my own mind
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and he called it cloudy cloudy
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and it is well named
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because it is a kind of a cloudy piece
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uh I wonder would you like to hear it
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what
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why don't I play it
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uh
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I remember he was a great man to play on the Black Keys
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he was a black key man haha
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but here here was cloudy if
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if I can do it if I if I
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can't do it
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you will forgive me because it's a long time cloudy
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VIX played Charlie Davis's piano
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whenever he could get at it
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it was his chance to explore
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anyone listening could hear unusual phrases
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something different with a touch of magic
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when Bix played he talked to you right from the heart
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and told you what he was thinking
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the clouds can you hahaha
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oh that's nice little tune
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nice little tune
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I don't know if they ever did anything with it
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I never heard it before since that afternoon
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played a couple of times
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and that Bix
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I always thought he was a kind of an unconscious genius
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just
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uh uh
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kind of floated around you know
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college students were nonconformist
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jazz the music of their generation
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broke all traditional rules
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no wonder they found it irresistible
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Hogie always on the lookout for the hottest jazz bands
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to book for the university
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grabbed at the Wolverines
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James Register a student at the Bloomington campus
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never missed a chance to hear the Wolverines
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Bitch played 10 different dance jobs
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I either attended dances where he played
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or I would listen to him through the window
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I remember several times I stood out in the rain
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I never caught cold that way
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and if I had it been worth it
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it appeared to me and to other people listen to him
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that every time he approached the making of a note
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he formed the note as carefully
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as if he was a painter
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putting a piece of paint on a canvas that he thought
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I'm sure was going to last for 1,000 years
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hearing this band and hearing Bix
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and I said Gee
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maybe I should write a tune for them
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so I sat down at the Book Nook piano
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the hangout you know
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sat there and I said what am I gonna
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how am I gonna do it and I put my
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I just kept working working
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and finally a little strain came
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a nice beautiful little melody
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which was the verse to Riverboat Shuffle
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that was a part of the verse
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and finally it it all came
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and I told the Wolverine boys that week
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when they came down I said
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I wrote a tune Wanna hear it
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and they said of course
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and then they listened to the tune and they said hey
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we like that and they said well
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we're going up to Jeanette Recording Company
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in Richmond Indiana
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and make a record of it I'd remembered that
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they'd already made a couple of records at Richmond
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and Great Records and so I said fine
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that's great next thing I knew
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about a week later when they were coming back
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they had a pressing of the record
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and they put it on for me to hear
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and I'm telling you
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it was a strange thing
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I didn't jump up and down in the air like a monkey
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I just listened and I
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couldn't believe my ears
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that I was hearing a tune of my own
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and it's the greatest feeling in the world
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to feel accomplishment like that
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and Bixby played a great chorus on it
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so I got tears in my eyes
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there's a still kind of a voice print in my mind of
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of Bix's tone
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and uh
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it was not one tone but he had three or four tones
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and one was the beautiful flowing tone
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like a journeyman poet would say
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from the well spring up in the mountains
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through the rocks over the falls and into the delta
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where he'd have his his climax
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that was his solo tone then his grunt tone which
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well we used to call it
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he could play dirt dirt
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that's what we used to name it
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and that was a tone that uh
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that's the one the girls liked they
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they thought that was great
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then he had his his leader tone
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which I which I just explained to you
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where he could without a baton
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he could lead a big band
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just by playing the melody the way he felt it
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oh that was something
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that was something you didn't need any papers
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you need nothing but that
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what do we play now the girl say
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I wanna hear Sweet Sue they say
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which one you wanna hear
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and he
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he he'd play it
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he'd play it and the girl say
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well that isn't with Sweet Sue
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oh it is
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oh you want the other one
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alright they play another one too
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girl say oh
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Jeepers Creepers
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now wait a minute here
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wait a minute
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Mister by the back
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she got very hostile hostile I
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I I like a nice person
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which I I expect you to be a nice person
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I requested Sweet Sue
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and they played it again
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said yeah not Sweet Sue
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says well
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big say I didn't know which one you meant ha
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they could play Sweet Sue in 40 different ways
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for Sunday
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00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,000
the Wolverines
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00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,766
music was often too advanced for the dancing public
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00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,000
but it appealed to other musicians
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00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,600
in four months they cut a dozen records
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as their records spread across America
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they came to be hailed as pioneers of white jazz
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00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,533
by September 1924 they'd hit the big time
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00:29:38,633 --> 00:29:41,066
they opened at New York city's Cinderella Ballroom
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right on Broadway
551
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:46,266
critics applauded and variety dubbed them a torrid unit
552
00:29:46,266 --> 00:29:47,466
second to none
553
00:29:50,266 --> 00:29:53,000
other musicians came to hear the kid from Iowa
554
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,100
with the German name among them
555
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,133
jazz violinist Al Duffy
556
00:29:57,866 --> 00:30:00,333
between sets downstairs the Slipper
557
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:02,533
Summertime I go upstairs
558
00:30:04,066 --> 00:30:07,966
breathe the fresh air and the windows be wide open
559
00:30:09,433 --> 00:30:10,700
the Cinderella Ball
560
00:30:11,833 --> 00:30:15,200
I can hear the strains of at the Jazz Band Ball
561
00:30:16,966 --> 00:30:20,900
Bix's notes fell all over Broadway
562
00:30:21,466 --> 00:30:23,400
scattered here and there but great notes
563
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,200
rumors of the young
564
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,900
Cornet star reached the ears of Gene Goldkate
565
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:29,866
a big band leader in Detroit
566
00:30:30,766 --> 00:30:34,366
Goldkate came to New York when he heard VIX he
567
00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:36,300
offered him a job in his orchestra
568
00:30:36,866 --> 00:30:39,733
after a few days of considering Goldkate's offer
569
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,800
VIX agreed
570
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,000
Bix arrived in Detroit
571
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,066
home base of Goldkette's orchestra
572
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,000
it was mid October 1924 Bix was 21 years old
573
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,066
the orchestra performed nightly
574
00:31:02,066 --> 00:31:03,300
in the Graystone Ballroom
575
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:04,733
in downtown Detroit
576
00:31:05,666 --> 00:31:08,300
VIX eagerly looked forward to joining them
577
00:31:08,466 --> 00:31:09,833
the other members of the orchestra
578
00:31:09,833 --> 00:31:11,233
were just as enthusiastic
579
00:31:11,233 --> 00:31:13,466
about playing and recording with VIX
580
00:31:14,766 --> 00:31:17,300
one was Paul Mertz the piano player
581
00:31:17,766 --> 00:31:19,400
we had this recording date
582
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,766
in the very first number
583
00:31:20,766 --> 00:31:22,466
we thought we would lead off with strength
584
00:31:22,466 --> 00:31:24,600
and we had our new great
585
00:31:26,633 --> 00:31:28,466
hero Big Spider
586
00:31:28,466 --> 00:31:32,100
back taking a chorus and being featured in it the
587
00:31:34,033 --> 00:31:36,066
strongly and not only that
588
00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:39,033
we had several other numbers with him
589
00:31:39,033 --> 00:31:41,266
the spots to take solos well
590
00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:48,266
the first number came up and it was a
591
00:31:50,066 --> 00:31:50,700
very very
592
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,633
very unsettling experience
593
00:31:54,633 --> 00:31:57,966
we ran over the number Bix took his solo
594
00:32:17,833 --> 00:32:19,666
Eddie King who was then
595
00:32:20,266 --> 00:32:21,700
I guess you would turn
596
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,333
the biggest wig in the whole Victor organization
597
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,666
and who guided their policy
598
00:32:27,833 --> 00:32:30,300
I don't know he says about this Bix
599
00:32:30,366 --> 00:32:32,600
that's not the kind of jazz we like
600
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,800
I don't get it and uh Bix
601
00:32:36,766 --> 00:32:39,800
the spots we had for him were taken out
602
00:32:39,966 --> 00:32:42,400
he came to leave the Goldkate band
603
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,466
not of his own volition but he was eased out
604
00:32:47,466 --> 00:32:49,933
Goldkate had to agree with the executives
605
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,600
though he recognized Bix's jazz talent
606
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,000
he advised him to learn more about music
607
00:32:55,466 --> 00:32:59,066
then he'd take him back after seven weeks in Detroit
608
00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:04,166
Bix was without work no more Wolverine no more Gold Cap
609
00:33:06,566 --> 00:33:07,700
for a little while
610
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,933
Bix hung about playing one nighters with various bands
611
00:33:11,233 --> 00:33:14,300
finally he went to see his old contacts at the Gennett
612
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:15,000
Recording Company
613
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400
and talked them into letting him cut a record
614
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,100
this time under his own name
615
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:24,033
he sent invitations to his gold ket buddies to join him
616
00:33:24,033 --> 00:33:25,700
Don Murray Tommy Dorsey
617
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:29,300
Paul Mertz and others we did four numbers
618
00:33:29,566 --> 00:33:31,100
and the two in the morning
619
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,466
were the only one that survived
620
00:33:32,466 --> 00:33:36,066
because by the afternoon the gin was taking hold toof
621
00:33:36,433 --> 00:33:38,300
too hard and uh
622
00:33:38,366 --> 00:33:40,100
it just too many bloopers
623
00:33:40,433 --> 00:33:45,100
but the first two even with their imperfections and uh
624
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:48,066
limited recording of the days
625
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,133
did have a flavor to them
626
00:34:01,366 --> 00:34:02,966
at first the other musicians
627
00:34:02,966 --> 00:34:06,333
didn't even realize that Bix was composing on the spot
628
00:34:07,233 --> 00:34:09,500
yet they couldn't help but follow his lead
629
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,866
after recording
630
00:34:34,866 --> 00:34:37,900
Devonport Blues picks traveled to Iowa City
631
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:42,900
he enrolled as an unclassified
632
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:44,966
student at the university of Iowa
633
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:47,200
prepared to follow Gold Katz's advice
634
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,766
and get some formal training
635
00:34:51,033 --> 00:34:53,966
yet once again his school days were short lived
636
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200
when he asked permission to study music only
637
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,600
the college refused
638
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,133
they also objected to his playing on school nights
639
00:35:02,066 --> 00:35:05,066
two weeks after enrolling Bix was out
640
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,766
in June Bix got a job at a resort in Michigan
641
00:35:11,633 --> 00:35:13,466
Fred Burgen recalls that here
642
00:35:13,466 --> 00:35:17,066
Bix first started working on his piano composition in
643
00:35:17,066 --> 00:35:17,900
a mist
644
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:21,766
I know that he wrote a part of in the mist
645
00:35:21,766 --> 00:35:22,900
while we're there
646
00:35:23,066 --> 00:35:28,900
there was a small point right out from the Pavilion and
647
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,766
uh he liked to go out there as a
648
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,966
as the dawn was coming up
649
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,166
and there would be a mist on the lake
650
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,633
and there was a little sandpiper
651
00:35:40,633 --> 00:35:42,066
who made his home there
652
00:35:42,066 --> 00:35:44,366
and he would run around the point
653
00:35:44,366 --> 00:35:48,333
and Vic seemed to enjoy the rhythm of the sandpiper
654
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,466
running around
655
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:54,166
he could get inspiration from almost anything
656
00:35:54,233 --> 00:35:56,466
and particularly anything in nature
657
00:36:15,666 --> 00:36:18,466
the end of the summer brought Brix an even better offer
658
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,566
an extended engagement at the Arcadia Ballroom
659
00:36:21,566 --> 00:36:22,700
in Saint Louis
660
00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:28,500
Bix joined sax player Frank Trumbauer and his orchestra
661
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,866
alongside clarinetist Pewee Russell
662
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:34,733
once a week he attended concerts at Odeon Hall
663
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:37,866
his favorite composers were Debussy
664
00:36:37,866 --> 00:36:41,866
Stravinsky Ravel and an obscure American composer
665
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:43,066
Eastwood Lane
666
00:36:44,233 --> 00:36:46,533
and once again he tried to get training
667
00:36:47,433 --> 00:36:49,166
he approached Joe Gustav
668
00:36:49,166 --> 00:36:51,000
the first trumpeter with the symphony
669
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,266
and asked to be taken on as a student
670
00:36:53,666 --> 00:36:55,566
after he played for the musician
671
00:36:55,766 --> 00:36:58,133
Gustav surprised Bix by saying
672
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,066
compared to you I'm a musician in a cage
673
00:37:02,266 --> 00:37:04,866
you have a great god given gift
674
00:37:05,066 --> 00:37:08,366
be proud of it don't try to change it
675
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:16,466
summer came and with it another resort job Hudson Lake
676
00:38:04,566 --> 00:38:06,966
name musicians Eddie Condon
677
00:38:06,966 --> 00:38:08,000
Benny Goodman Mezz
678
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,500
Mezz Row all came down from Chicago
679
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:12,733
to the little dance joint at Hudson Lake
680
00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:18,966
they came to listen to Bix and went away to imitate him
681
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,333
his tone especially beguiled them
682
00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:25,733
they couldn't capture it so they described it
683
00:38:26,166 --> 00:38:30,066
Eddie Condon said it was like a girl saying yes
684
00:38:31,266 --> 00:38:34,266
for Hoagy it was a mallet hitting a chime
685
00:38:35,633 --> 00:38:39,333
to another musician the tone carried a teardrop
686
00:38:50,233 --> 00:38:52,466
behind the main resort was a cottage bit
687
00:38:52,466 --> 00:38:54,066
shared with Pee Wee Russell
688
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,666
the place was notorious for its unwashed dishes
689
00:38:58,666 --> 00:39:00,066
and empty liquor bottles
690
00:39:08,033 --> 00:39:09,600
finally Gene Goldkate
691
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,366
decided that Bix was ready to rejoin his band
692
00:39:13,966 --> 00:39:16,133
they headed east to tour New England
693
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,900
they set up headquarters at the Hillcrest Inn
694
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:19,933
Massachusetts
695
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,800
Goldkett's new musical arranger
696
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600
Bill Challis quickly saw how Bix could help him
697
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,266
with the orchestral arrangements
698
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,633
he knew how a the trumpet or a saxophone would sound
699
00:39:31,633 --> 00:39:33,166
and he'd get it in the right register
700
00:39:33,166 --> 00:39:35,200
and play it on the piano one finger
701
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,166
it came all out of them
702
00:39:37,966 --> 00:39:40,666
maybe the second time would be different than the first
703
00:39:41,266 --> 00:39:43,366
but it came out and we had to grab
704
00:39:43,366 --> 00:39:45,600
I had to grab what he uh
705
00:39:47,666 --> 00:39:49,166
what I thought was best
706
00:39:56,833 --> 00:39:59,066
the Gold Cat guys took to the road
707
00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:01,300
each night a different dance hall
708
00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:04,266
quite often a battle of the bands with a rival unit
709
00:40:04,433 --> 00:40:07,866
they played fast fresh and they packed them in
710
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,366
always the the
711
00:40:23,366 --> 00:40:25,666
the musicians of the community would come
712
00:40:25,666 --> 00:40:27,666
and they'd stand right up in front
713
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:30,200
and to hear this guy especially
714
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,866
they didn't want to hear Big Spider back
715
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,466
but they like the whole band
716
00:40:43,466 --> 00:40:44,800
the band all the whole the
717
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,566
the whole band had a marvelous arrangements
718
00:40:48,566 --> 00:40:50,700
and they played very very well
719
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:53,500
and of course with a guy like Bix in there
720
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:54,300
we uh
721
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,966
we were just moving right along
722
00:40:55,966 --> 00:40:58,400
and we were at a very fine reputation
723
00:40:59,433 --> 00:41:00,666
the band's reputation
724
00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:02,700
reached all the way to New York City
725
00:41:03,666 --> 00:41:05,400
they arrived at the Roseland Ballroom
726
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,833
on October 6th, 1926
727
00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:09,900
a dozen white boys from the Midwest
728
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,866
ready to challenge the top black jazzmen of the famous
729
00:41:12,866 --> 00:41:15,466
Fletcher Henderson Orchestra to a battle of music
730
00:41:16,866 --> 00:41:19,666
trombones Speagle Wilcox recalls the event
731
00:41:20,233 --> 00:41:24,366
we had all the musicians that you can imagine out there
732
00:41:24,466 --> 00:41:25,866
they weren't on the dance floor
733
00:41:25,866 --> 00:41:27,700
but they were all lined up
734
00:41:27,766 --> 00:41:28,900
mass of them
735
00:41:29,266 --> 00:41:32,000
and so we were on the bandstand and down the
736
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,666
down the ways there was the other band
737
00:41:33,666 --> 00:41:35,100
and it was Futcher Henderson
738
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:37,266
so it came the time for the performance
739
00:41:37,266 --> 00:41:40,466
and the Futcher Henderson Band opened up
740
00:41:40,466 --> 00:41:41,366
I don't remember the number
741
00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,033
but it was very hot it was a hot tune
742
00:41:44,033 --> 00:41:48,133
they were really they were about to nail us
743
00:41:49,066 --> 00:41:51,933
and they got through and they got a lot of applause
744
00:41:52,666 --> 00:41:54,600
and then you can almost just
745
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,633
it was very quiet and it was our turn
746
00:41:57,633 --> 00:41:58,433
so
747
00:41:59,366 --> 00:42:00,500
everyone was waiting
748
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:02,666
for what the band was gonna sound like
749
00:42:02,666 --> 00:42:04,233
and guess what we were going to
750
00:42:04,233 --> 00:42:05,600
what we came up with
751
00:42:06,666 --> 00:42:07,266
hard to believe
752
00:42:07,266 --> 00:42:10,166
but we came up with Valencia of all tunes
753
00:42:10,166 --> 00:42:11,766
a 6 8 tune you
754
00:42:11,766 --> 00:42:12,066
know 6
755
00:42:12,066 --> 00:42:12,933
8 time and
756
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,433
and uh
757
00:42:14,433 --> 00:42:14,700
there was
758
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,100
a lot of smiles came up out there in the audience
759
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,500
you know what's this great band from the west doing
760
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:20,533
you know playing that
761
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:22,400
well we played it good
762
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,300
and we finished anyway
763
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,266
and we got a tremendous round of applause
764
00:42:26,466 --> 00:42:28,600
and then for our next tune
765
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,333
My Pretty Girl Stop
766
00:42:30,566 --> 00:42:33,200
and we just got an awful lot of applause on it
767
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,433
I mean we had proven that we were pretty good
768
00:42:36,433 --> 00:42:38,600
we actually creamed them
769
00:42:54,466 --> 00:42:56,233
when the whole thing was over
770
00:42:56,233 --> 00:42:58,000
that was the finish of the road trip
771
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,100
went back to Detroit
772
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,166
and we opened in the in the Graystone
773
00:43:04,566 --> 00:43:07,033
and that was a nice big beautiful ball world
774
00:43:07,033 --> 00:43:08,566
they had a lot of customers
775
00:43:10,066 --> 00:43:12,966
amazing thing about is being in a big section of
776
00:43:12,966 --> 00:43:14,366
brass section in the band
777
00:43:14,566 --> 00:43:16,633
they would have their parts all written for them
778
00:43:16,633 --> 00:43:17,633
and at the rehearsal
779
00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:20,100
they would go through it two or three times
780
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,566
and Bix would just listen
781
00:43:23,166 --> 00:43:24,600
about the fourth time
782
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,866
he would pick up the cornet and play with them
783
00:43:27,866 --> 00:43:31,500
and his ability to pick out the odd notes
784
00:43:31,500 --> 00:43:34,600
like the six and nines and seconds and all that
785
00:43:34,833 --> 00:43:37,500
made it so wonderful
786
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:41,300
that the music would just seem to bloom or explode
787
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:46,300
it was just that fullness that he gave to the band
788
00:43:46,833 --> 00:43:49,266
and he didn't have any notes in front of him at all
789
00:43:49,266 --> 00:43:51,366
it all came right out of his head
790
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,133
that's the guy we're talking about
791
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,166
he just made that band oh
792
00:44:15,166 --> 00:44:16,566
he just picked this right up
793
00:44:16,866 --> 00:44:18,333
picked this right up
794
00:44:18,966 --> 00:44:20,400
we got better that's all
795
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,600
and maybe you wouldn't play very long at a time
796
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,300
that you just
797
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:26,766
a few bars that's all it needed
798
00:44:26,766 --> 00:44:29,400
you know just to to make it snap out
799
00:44:32,866 --> 00:44:34,166
we always had two bands
800
00:44:35,466 --> 00:44:37,166
we were known as the Victor Band
801
00:44:37,866 --> 00:44:40,800
but that was the idea we had continuous music
802
00:44:41,366 --> 00:44:42,566
our good old days
803
00:45:45,766 --> 00:45:49,366
Joe Vernuti did you imagine playing a straight solo
804
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,066
something else
805
00:46:05,266 --> 00:46:06,133
something else
806
00:46:07,466 --> 00:46:10,700
in order to offer variety and keep his ballroom packed
807
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,433
gold Katz
808
00:46:11,433 --> 00:46:12,366
hired a black band
809
00:46:12,366 --> 00:46:14,700
to play alternate sets with Victor Band
810
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,466
the black group was Mckinney's Cotton Pickers
811
00:46:17,566 --> 00:46:20,133
their banjo player Dave Wilborn
812
00:46:20,766 --> 00:46:22,166
the the members of the McKinley
813
00:46:22,166 --> 00:46:24,300
Scott Biggers had a great respect for Biggs
814
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,900
he never was a an outgoing person
815
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:28,766
but uh
816
00:46:28,766 --> 00:46:30,200
they respected his ability
817
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:30,700
they they
818
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:31,500
they uh
819
00:46:31,766 --> 00:46:33,966
liked the fact that he that he caught
820
00:46:33,966 --> 00:46:37,000
caught on quickly to the style and uh
821
00:46:37,233 --> 00:46:39,366
he was friendly to us as far as we were concerned
822
00:46:39,366 --> 00:46:41,833
when he'd come down in the rehearsal room
823
00:46:41,833 --> 00:46:43,466
and sit and talk with us and
824
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,566
and a lot of times
825
00:46:44,566 --> 00:46:45,966
he'd come over and sit in with the band
826
00:46:45,966 --> 00:46:47,766
ask us if he could sit in with the band
827
00:46:48,833 --> 00:46:51,566
home for the Victor boys was the Billinghurst Hotel
828
00:46:51,566 --> 00:46:53,566
just down the street from the Graystone
829
00:46:54,033 --> 00:46:57,666
in off hours a different music drifted from the windows
830
00:46:57,666 --> 00:46:58,666
of the hotel
831
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,533
this is the funny thing about it
832
00:47:01,666 --> 00:47:04,366
at that time I don't know whether pics introduced it
833
00:47:04,366 --> 00:47:06,566
or whether he picked it up
834
00:47:06,666 --> 00:47:08,100
but the idea was this
835
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:11,733
you either turn out all the lights except
836
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:13,633
one
837
00:47:13,633 --> 00:47:18,466
and that you'd put in either a red bulb or a blue bulb
838
00:47:19,266 --> 00:47:21,166
to give atmosphere see
839
00:47:23,566 --> 00:47:29,266
and then we'd put on Debussy Ravel or Stravinsky
840
00:48:11,666 --> 00:48:14,800
and Vicks would you say no wait
841
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,000
wait listen listen
842
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:20,866
and he certainly got a bunch of converts
843
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,600
and Max speak easy
844
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,166
that was our rallying place most of the time
845
00:48:31,166 --> 00:48:33,466
because it was just very convenient
846
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:35,233
the musicians around Detroit
847
00:48:35,233 --> 00:48:37,566
who admired the Graystone outfit
848
00:48:37,566 --> 00:48:40,300
they would come up there so they could say oh
849
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:42,166
I was talking big squares die
850
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,533
everybody wanted to buy him a drink
851
00:48:57,633 --> 00:49:00,000
Goldkate managed a string of dance orchestras
852
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,300
throughout the Midwest
853
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,533
to meet a hefty payroll he had to send them on the road
854
00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:10,433
in the spring of 1927
855
00:49:10,433 --> 00:49:12,700
they traveled halfway across America
856
00:49:13,966 --> 00:49:15,866
as popular as they were
857
00:49:16,233 --> 00:49:19,266
the fees they collected could not cover expenses
858
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:21,066
and the boys began to wonder
859
00:49:21,066 --> 00:49:22,100
how much longer
860
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:24,866
Goldkett could afford to keep the band together
861
00:49:26,166 --> 00:49:30,100
by August 1927 the end was in sight
862
00:49:31,233 --> 00:49:34,800
the last engagement before the band broke up
863
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:35,900
was at Atlantic City
864
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,533
we're driving down there and we got there around
865
00:49:38,966 --> 00:49:42,200
around 1:00 there's nothing much more to do
866
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,400
the band didn't start to play for about two days
867
00:49:45,566 --> 00:49:47,600
he said supposing I uh I
868
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,766
get us a date he says
869
00:49:48,766 --> 00:49:50,100
I know a girl here
870
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:52,833
and she plays piano over at the woolworth's
871
00:49:52,833 --> 00:49:54,066
I think it was
872
00:49:54,666 --> 00:49:58,100
we set it up then he wanted to go to some club
873
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:00,300
there was some club with band
874
00:50:01,033 --> 00:50:02,433
band is good he said
875
00:50:02,433 --> 00:50:04,566
he said I know the guys and so forth
876
00:50:05,166 --> 00:50:08,400
we went up there and of course uh
877
00:50:09,033 --> 00:50:11,266
he's got the gin bottle with him too
878
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,000
so uh
879
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,933
we're sitting down there and of course
880
00:50:15,966 --> 00:50:18,466
with the horn the two girls and all
881
00:50:18,633 --> 00:50:20,100
he's not paying much attention
882
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:21,866
except we're having a couple of drinks
883
00:50:22,166 --> 00:50:24,166
and the guys want him to come up on the bandstand
884
00:50:24,166 --> 00:50:25,066
and play
885
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,200
which he does he goes up there for quite a while
886
00:50:29,033 --> 00:50:30,366
and I guess up there
887
00:50:30,366 --> 00:50:33,700
they were giving him a couple drinks also
888
00:50:33,833 --> 00:50:35,366
by the time he got back to the table
889
00:50:35,366 --> 00:50:36,600
he was a little bit uh
890
00:50:37,033 --> 00:50:38,166
under the weather
891
00:50:38,833 --> 00:50:39,866
but uh
892
00:50:39,866 --> 00:50:41,866
he had done his share of playing up there
893
00:50:41,866 --> 00:50:43,533
and they they liked him
894
00:50:45,266 --> 00:50:48,600
I think he was a very fine gentle person
895
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,900
I I can't say that
896
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:53,100
you know if
897
00:50:53,633 --> 00:50:58,900
if he were under the influence that time
898
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:00,000
he could be as a
899
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,100
he could be really biting sarcastic
900
00:51:05,833 --> 00:51:09,566
the the influence thing you've got to forget about
901
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:15,400
so maybe a lot of people run into him in that situation
902
00:51:20,433 --> 00:51:22,100
they returned to New York
903
00:51:22,966 --> 00:51:25,366
Clementine was their last recording
904
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,666
Paul Whiteman heard that the band was breaking up
905
00:51:49,666 --> 00:51:52,833
and made a bid for the top talent Whiteman
906
00:51:52,833 --> 00:51:54,633
the biggest name in show business
907
00:51:54,633 --> 00:51:56,566
was always scouting for the best
908
00:51:56,566 --> 00:51:59,100
and he wanted Bix to add spark to his own
909
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:00,400
commercial orchestra
910
00:52:07,033 --> 00:52:07,833
instead
911
00:52:08,433 --> 00:52:11,300
Bix opted to join a smaller and more innovative unit
912
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:12,933
headed by Adrian Rolini
913
00:52:13,666 --> 00:52:16,166
they opened the brand new Club New Yorker
914
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,200
and closed it three weeks later
915
00:52:22,433 --> 00:52:25,066
the club had become another musician's hangout
916
00:52:25,066 --> 00:52:27,533
no dance crowds no business
917
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:32,800
so Pix accepted white man's invitation after all
918
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,466
he joined up with the orchestra in Indianapolis
919
00:52:48,466 --> 00:52:52,766
at the Indiana Theatre it was October 1927
920
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:55,500
Vicks was 24 years old
921
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,866
the orchestra leader was only too pleased
922
00:52:59,866 --> 00:53:02,133
to welcome Bix into the fold
923
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:06,966
at that time Whitman was Whitman
924
00:53:07,166 --> 00:53:09,200
and you received an offer from Whitman
925
00:53:09,633 --> 00:53:12,066
that was just about as far as you could get
926
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,100
and very few
927
00:53:16,433 --> 00:53:18,766
refused him because of that
928
00:53:18,766 --> 00:53:21,633
he had exposure to all fine recordings
929
00:53:21,633 --> 00:53:23,766
and he had contracts with recording companies
930
00:53:23,766 --> 00:53:25,800
which most jazz bands didn't have
931
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,633
they just made them by the seat of their pants
932
00:53:27,633 --> 00:53:31,300
you know joining Whitman meant Bix had reached the top
933
00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:33,766
he telephoned his family in Davenport
934
00:53:33,766 --> 00:53:35,466
with the news of his achievement
935
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,733
certain they'd finally approve
936
00:53:38,433 --> 00:53:40,100
his father was cool
937
00:53:40,433 --> 00:53:42,800
he could not feel comfortable with the way of life
938
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,066
his son had chosen
939
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:47,200
it was a world away from respectable
940
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,933
middle class Davenport
941
00:53:51,866 --> 00:53:54,866
The White Man Orchestra was a musical kaleidoscope
942
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,800
its symphonic sounds appealed to bigs
943
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:03,366
its ranks included the best in the business Bing
944
00:54:03,366 --> 00:54:05,500
Crosby lead singer with the Rhythm Boys
945
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,200
was one of White Man's stars
946
00:54:08,633 --> 00:54:10,166
Violinist Mattie Melnick
947
00:54:10,166 --> 00:54:12,400
recalls getting together for a rehearsal
948
00:54:12,833 --> 00:54:13,766
in the morning
949
00:54:13,766 --> 00:54:17,800
we would be called maybe at 9:00 or sometimes 10:00
950
00:54:18,033 --> 00:54:23,500
and um Bing was a kind of a naughty boy in those days
951
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:24,900
he was drinking a little bit
952
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:26,633
and he was very young
953
00:54:26,633 --> 00:54:28,300
and staying out late and everything
954
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,966
and if we had a 9:00 call
955
00:54:30,966 --> 00:54:33,000
he very seldom got there at 9:00
956
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,133
10:00 call he'd get there a quarter to 12
957
00:54:36,233 --> 00:54:38,166
and a lot of us would do that
958
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,566
but after Bix got in the band and
959
00:54:42,566 --> 00:54:46,000
and VIX used to come out maybe at 9:00 on time
960
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000
or a few minutes late but he'd have his trumpet
961
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,166
and somebody was playing the piano
962
00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:55,033
maybe like Arroyo Bargie or Lenny Hayton
963
00:54:55,033 --> 00:54:58,100
who played very well he would start to play
964
00:54:58,566 --> 00:55:00,066
and of course we all listened
965
00:55:00,066 --> 00:55:03,966
because even then we realized something was going on
966
00:55:03,966 --> 00:55:06,500
that we had not heard you know
967
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,966
this was a special talent and
968
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,866
being used to start coming early
969
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,800
because like the rest of us
970
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:19,533
he wanted to hear Vic's play
971
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,466
now it's getting kind of cold
972
00:55:26,466 --> 00:55:27,866
getting kind of hot but listen
973
00:55:27,866 --> 00:55:29,866
I forgot since he wasn't taught
974
00:55:30,066 --> 00:55:32,066
he's been the talk of Dixie land
975
00:55:52,633 --> 00:55:55,366
now as far as I was concerned with them
976
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,766
I would make the arrangement
977
00:55:56,766 --> 00:56:00,166
say you got 16 bars here you got 32 bars here
978
00:56:00,166 --> 00:56:01,900
and it's after the first or second
979
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:03,566
course and uh
980
00:56:03,766 --> 00:56:05,800
it would be a cinch you know
981
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,800
you just wait and you knew when to come in
982
00:56:08,033 --> 00:56:09,666
and he came in beautifully
983
00:56:09,666 --> 00:56:11,733
you know he listened to the arrangement
984
00:56:11,766 --> 00:56:13,233
if I had a break there for him
985
00:56:13,233 --> 00:56:15,533
he would come right in after it
986
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:17,566
and just fill up the thing
987
00:56:17,566 --> 00:56:20,000
the way I would have loved to do it
988
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,366
the way I would love to have written it out
989
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,733
he took a load off my mind in the talk of Dixie Land
990
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,500
and you you look at him and you wonder
991
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,100
where did this come out of
992
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:52,400
you know what I mean but he just had it
993
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,500
and the time I knew him
994
00:56:55,233 --> 00:56:56,766
he was like a boy you know
995
00:56:56,766 --> 00:56:59,366
he had kind of a short haircut and
996
00:57:00,633 --> 00:57:03,200
and he looked like a kid out of high school
997
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,300
you know and
998
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:05,100
and uh
999
00:57:05,566 --> 00:57:09,800
didn't charm that I found was he didn't say much
1000
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:12,266
so I never really found out much about him
1001
00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:13,633
the only thing that poured out of him
1002
00:57:13,633 --> 00:57:14,800
was that great music
1003
00:57:15,366 --> 00:57:18,133
you know and when he sat on the stand
1004
00:57:18,466 --> 00:57:20,200
you know I didn't think to turn around
1005
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,300
and look at a great legend
1006
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:22,800
because he wasn't a great legend
1007
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,366
he's a great legend now
1008
00:57:25,433 --> 00:57:27,700
Chicago the hotbed of jazz
1009
00:57:28,566 --> 00:57:30,966
next up for the Paul Whiteman Orchestra
1010
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,633
a city jumping with dance halls
1011
00:57:42,633 --> 00:57:44,266
cabarets speakeasies
1012
00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:45,866
most of them gangster owned
1013
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,000
you could dance till dawn to the best in music
1014
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,566
Kid O'ree Johnny Dawes
1015
00:57:59,566 --> 00:58:01,166
Jimmy Noone King Oliver
1016
00:58:01,166 --> 00:58:03,100
Louis Armstrong were all in town
1017
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,666
playing on the South Side
1018
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:08,533
the white musicians played in clubs on the North Side
1019
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,466
after hours they'd meet to jam and exchange ideas
1020
00:58:14,466 --> 00:58:17,100
trumpet player DOC Cheatham was part of the scene
1021
00:58:17,633 --> 00:58:19,533
I had noticed that we all
1022
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,000
after a while
1023
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,300
we go and hear the same thing all the time
1024
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,066
jazz was beginning to hit a brick wall
1025
00:58:26,166 --> 00:58:29,400
you go to one place you hear the same style
1026
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,966
you go to the next place you hear the same style
1027
00:58:32,266 --> 00:58:34,766
come to my place where I'm playing the same style
1028
00:58:34,866 --> 00:58:37,633
so it got to the place where I was kind of
1029
00:58:37,633 --> 00:58:40,033
worried about it and all of a sudden
1030
00:58:40,033 --> 00:58:42,400
we started hearing the recording of this guy
1031
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,666
big spider bag
1032
00:58:43,966 --> 00:58:48,300
which opened up many roads for us to keep going
1033
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:52,166
because he brought forwards so much
1034
00:58:52,766 --> 00:58:55,800
melody and harmony in his solo work
1035
00:58:56,233 --> 00:58:57,566
that it kinda kind of
1036
00:58:57,566 --> 00:59:00,033
opened all of our eyes to the fact that
1037
00:59:00,033 --> 00:59:03,266
something we need to do need to learn to play
1038
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:39,600
from Monday on be sitting up in the balcony
1039
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,966
and he get up to take a course and see
1040
00:59:41,966 --> 00:59:43,800
it just it just stood out
1041
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,633
so from the rest of that band
1042
00:59:45,633 --> 00:59:46,866
you know it's a large band
1043
00:59:46,866 --> 00:59:48,833
you know about 35 pieces
1044
00:59:48,833 --> 00:59:50,033
something like that but he
1045
00:59:50,033 --> 00:59:51,366
when he stand up take his course
1046
00:59:51,366 --> 00:59:54,400
the tone it just flow through
1047
00:59:54,466 --> 00:59:55,800
and it just I don't know what it was
1048
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,866
I can't explain that tone just
1049
00:59:57,866 --> 01:00:00,933
Stacy was equally enthralled by Bix on piano
1050
01:00:01,266 --> 01:00:03,700
of course I was a jitterbug over Bix
1051
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,166
he was my idol I wanted to play like that
1052
01:00:07,166 --> 01:00:08,300
I wanted to think like that
1053
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:09,100
you know
1054
01:00:10,066 --> 01:00:12,266
but we always wanted to just see what
1055
01:00:12,266 --> 01:00:14,600
what a man looked like that could play like that
1056
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:19,000
very alert he had to be alert to have all that talent
1057
01:00:19,666 --> 01:00:21,533
pleasant quiet
1058
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,966
very nice to everyone
1059
01:00:24,066 --> 01:00:27,200
and we all chased around
1060
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,566
tried to learn how to play like Bix
1061
01:00:29,566 --> 01:00:31,933
every one of us every one of us
1062
01:00:32,833 --> 01:00:35,333
jazz was the music of the night
1063
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:38,033
and after the finish of the show
1064
01:00:38,033 --> 01:00:40,066
usually around 1 or 2 in the morning
1065
01:00:40,233 --> 01:00:42,200
Bix headed for the speakeasies
1066
01:00:54,566 --> 01:00:56,800
he found his favorite music at late night
1067
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,466
impromptu jam sessions on the South Side
1068
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,800
Bessie Smith's singing captivated Bix
1069
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:53,066
he couldn't get enough of it
1070
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,700
the story goes that one night
1071
01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:56,866
he turned out his pockets
1072
01:01:56,866 --> 01:01:58,700
and put all his money on the table
1073
01:01:58,866 --> 01:02:00,500
just to keep her singing
1074
01:02:01,066 --> 01:02:02,900
he was lost to the world
1075
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,300
listening jamming and drinking
1076
01:02:17,666 --> 01:02:19,566
it didn't matter where the money came from
1077
01:02:19,566 --> 01:02:22,200
as long as the music and the booze kept flowing
1078
01:02:23,433 --> 01:02:26,866
wherever VIX went he was known for his generosity
1079
01:02:27,833 --> 01:02:30,666
when Jean Krupa and a group of guys were out of work
1080
01:02:30,666 --> 01:02:32,666
VIX bought meals for everyone
1081
01:02:32,966 --> 01:02:36,966
as Krupa used to say if you couldn't get along with VIX
1082
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:39,133
you couldn't get along with anyone
1083
01:02:41,566 --> 01:02:43,000
on other nights Bix turned
1084
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,133
up at the Sunset Cafe to jam with Louis Armstrong
1085
01:02:46,266 --> 01:02:48,966
Louis remembers come out on the South Side
1086
01:02:48,966 --> 01:02:52,600
after they finish their show at the Chicago Theater
1087
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:55,200
and Dixie come out there and sit in with us
1088
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,833
by that time you know
1089
01:02:56,833 --> 01:02:59,966
it's outstanding tone everything like that
1090
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,500
but in those days
1091
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,666
there wasn't any final notes come out of horn
1092
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:06,533
I don't care who was blowing it
1093
01:03:06,633 --> 01:03:10,166
to me he was superior all the time
1094
01:03:10,566 --> 01:03:13,166
I've heard a lot of cats trying to play like pigs and
1095
01:03:13,166 --> 01:03:14,166
you know I'm playing like them
1096
01:03:14,166 --> 01:03:16,833
yet they tried to take it from me
1097
01:03:16,833 --> 01:03:18,600
he was a born genius
1098
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,366
but they crowded him too much with love
1099
01:03:22,033 --> 01:03:24,333
we went out because dear Louis
1100
01:03:24,766 --> 01:03:26,566
and we knew Bix was in town
1101
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:29,000
was in the Savoy Ballroom
1102
01:03:29,433 --> 01:03:30,233
Louis went over
1103
01:03:30,233 --> 01:03:33,133
and stepped down from the edge of the platform
1104
01:03:33,233 --> 01:03:34,400
with his horn
1105
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:37,200
Louis took the mouthpiece out of his horn
1106
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,733
and handed to Bix and Bix put his mouthpiece in
1107
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:40,800
and
1108
01:03:41,866 --> 01:03:45,000
played three courses of Little Coquette with the band
1109
01:03:46,066 --> 01:03:47,000
and uh
1110
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:49,666
it's difficult to tell whether Louis was crying
1111
01:03:49,666 --> 01:03:51,800
or whether he wasn't because he always mopped his face
1112
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,733
but I think he was crying
1113
01:03:55,566 --> 01:03:57,866
he said something wonderful to me say afterwards that
1114
01:03:57,866 --> 01:04:00,200
that had them both just beaming
1115
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,500
hanging on to each other
1116
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:04,166
but it was a very gracious
1117
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:08,366
I don't I never seen Louis do it for us before
1118
01:04:08,366 --> 01:04:10,000
a sense he undoubtedly has
1119
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,733
but he he respected Vicks
1120
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,933
the orchestra was based in New York City
1121
01:04:21,433 --> 01:04:24,400
when the Paramount Theater opened its doors on Broadway
1122
01:04:24,433 --> 01:04:26,566
Whitman knew it was the place for him
1123
01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:30,166
the theater headlined the Paul Whitman Orchestra
1124
01:04:30,166 --> 01:04:31,933
for an extended engagement
1125
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:41,700
nothing but the best for the king of jazz
1126
01:04:49,266 --> 01:04:51,866
to get a break from the best selling songs
1127
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:54,166
Vicks contracted his own deals
1128
01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:56,600
he assembled a small Dixieland group
1129
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,933
and called it Vicks and his gang
1130
01:04:59,266 --> 01:05:01,933
one of their best recordings is sorry
1131
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:04,700
it's a favorite of Eston Spurrier
1132
01:05:04,766 --> 01:05:07,200
a trumpet player from Bix's hometown
1133
01:05:10,366 --> 01:05:13,000
and you find the way that he drives his band
1134
01:05:13,433 --> 01:05:18,266
and it's like a 4 x 20 mule team
1135
01:05:18,433 --> 01:05:22,366
getting sent down a hill with a mule driver just listen
1136
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:10,800
in an instinctive way
1137
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,700
I think he approved of some of the things he did
1138
01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:15,133
and it made him very happy
1139
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:17,866
that's when he was happy when he was writing in a mess
1140
01:06:19,066 --> 01:06:19,866
to himself
1141
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:21,300
see
1142
01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:24,300
he was happy cause he knew something good was happening
1143
01:06:25,166 --> 01:06:26,400
he didn't express it say oh
1144
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,900
listen to this you know
1145
01:06:28,366 --> 01:06:29,666
nothing like that or ego
1146
01:06:29,666 --> 01:06:30,733
didn't get into it
1147
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,066
he didn't have that big ego
1148
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,166
he had talent
1149
01:06:36,766 --> 01:06:38,500
Whitman's publisher Jack Robbins
1150
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:39,400
took notice
1151
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,266
he had also heard about Bix's composing skills
1152
01:06:42,266 --> 01:06:44,700
and was intrigued by in a mist
1153
01:06:45,300 --> 01:06:48,300
always looking for another hit like Rhapsody in Blue
1154
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,400
Robbins asked arranger Bill Challis
1155
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,766
to commit Bix's composition to paper
1156
01:06:53,633 --> 01:06:57,333
putting it down was was difficult because uh
1157
01:06:57,466 --> 01:06:58,600
he didn't play it the same
1158
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,733
way every time
1159
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:01,366
and
1160
01:07:02,966 --> 01:07:05,600
Robins had told him he would have to put it down
1161
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:06,833
and then learn to play it
1162
01:07:06,833 --> 01:07:07,766
that way
1163
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,133
he couldn't just improvise each time he put it down
1164
01:07:12,066 --> 01:07:14,233
for almost four months they worked together
1165
01:07:14,233 --> 01:07:16,933
at Bill Challis's apartment on Riverside Drive
1166
01:07:17,366 --> 01:07:18,866
VIX played the number off
1167
01:07:18,866 --> 01:07:21,700
every few bars Bill would stop him to catch up
1168
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,366
then when VIX started again
1169
01:07:23,366 --> 01:07:25,100
it would be totally different
1170
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:27,000
I was the one that had to say look
1171
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,300
which one are you gonna use now
1172
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:31,966
this one or that one and we had to set on that
1173
01:07:32,066 --> 01:07:34,466
we had to get together and set that
1174
01:07:34,466 --> 01:07:36,666
and that's the one I would write down
1175
01:07:36,833 --> 01:07:39,300
he'd have to learn that that was the way we did it
1176
01:07:39,366 --> 01:07:42,400
he knew pretty much what he was doing what he wanted
1177
01:09:14,766 --> 01:09:16,800
in the fall of 1928
1178
01:09:16,866 --> 01:09:19,400
Paul Whiteman planned his biggest tour ever
1179
01:09:22,566 --> 01:09:25,400
the tour premiered at Carnegie Hall in New York City
1180
01:09:26,366 --> 01:09:28,800
there was an addition to the program that night
1181
01:09:29,033 --> 01:09:31,766
a special performance of in the mist
1182
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:33,866
at Center Stage
1183
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,900
VIX played all alone with the spotlight on him
1184
01:09:40,866 --> 01:09:43,366
one of the musicians recalls the occasion
1185
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:49,200
but I have never heard such applause in my whole life
1186
01:09:49,566 --> 01:09:51,700
I don't think he intended to
1187
01:09:52,166 --> 01:09:55,233
to bowl over an audience in Carnegie Hall
1188
01:09:55,233 --> 01:09:56,400
in the first place
1189
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:58,900
so I think he was a little astounded
1190
01:09:59,466 --> 01:10:01,800
cause I remember he got up as soon as he couldn't
1191
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,166
and wanted to get back to the man stand
1192
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,166
and Paul wouldn't let him go back
1193
01:10:06,166 --> 01:10:07,666
and the audience wouldn't either
1194
01:10:14,633 --> 01:10:16,666
we worked seven days a week
1195
01:10:16,666 --> 01:10:19,000
we went in buses and in trains
1196
01:10:19,033 --> 01:10:22,000
there was no diner on the trains that we rode on
1197
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,966
we would get in the train at 6 o'clock in the morning
1198
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:29,500
and we'd start to make a trip that's 500 miles
1199
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:31,133
the trains were not fast
1200
01:10:31,300 --> 01:10:34,100
and it was really a brutal ride
1201
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,700
we would arrive about five in the afternoon
1202
01:10:37,966 --> 01:10:40,066
many miles from New York you know
1203
01:10:40,533 --> 01:10:44,266
and now we had to check in some little hotel
1204
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,133
which was terrible hot shave
1205
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,066
try to get a little dinner
1206
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:54,766
and be ready to play at 8:00 in the ballroom
1207
01:11:01,366 --> 01:11:05,566
people loved dancing every town had its own ballroom
1208
01:11:05,666 --> 01:11:08,866
and when the bands came they danced
1209
01:11:33,366 --> 01:11:34,700
you know we used to play poker
1210
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:36,866
especially after we're on the Pullman
1211
01:11:37,366 --> 01:11:39,266
we're on one night at a transit tour
1212
01:11:39,666 --> 01:11:41,633
a lot of us would play poker for something to do
1213
01:11:41,633 --> 01:11:43,300
you had to do something or you'd go out of your mind
1214
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:44,666
because you're traveling and playing
1215
01:11:44,666 --> 01:11:45,733
and that's all you did
1216
01:11:46,066 --> 01:11:49,600
Vicks had a habit of getting up and he'd sit in
1217
01:11:50,700 --> 01:11:54,400
if one of the fellows might get sleepy and go to bed
1218
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:55,866
and there'd be just six of us there
1219
01:11:55,866 --> 01:11:57,900
fix would sit down and play for a while
1220
01:11:58,700 --> 01:11:59,700
and invariably
1221
01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:01,666
he'd walk out with about 50 or 60 dollars
1222
01:12:01,666 --> 01:12:04,266
you'd deal him a card and he'd go to pick it up
1223
01:12:04,266 --> 01:12:05,266
and he didn't trust anybody
1224
01:12:05,266 --> 01:12:06,300
he'd pull it up like that
1225
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:08,000
he'd drop it it'd fall on the floor
1226
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,100
it would be an ace you know
1227
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:11,066
and that would scare everybody to death right there
1228
01:12:11,066 --> 01:12:12,666
we finally had to give up
1229
01:12:13,566 --> 01:12:14,900
because Big's head is all broken
1230
01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:16,333
about two or three weeks
1231
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,700
to keep his musicians in line
1232
01:12:22,700 --> 01:12:24,900
Paul Whiteman enforced certain rules
1233
01:12:25,466 --> 01:12:27,233
if anyone missed a concert
1234
01:12:27,233 --> 01:12:28,533
they paid a fine
1235
01:12:29,466 --> 01:12:31,866
one morning the musicians had to board the train
1236
01:12:31,866 --> 01:12:34,500
especially early Bix
1237
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:37,866
the last one down at the station took the wrong train
1238
01:12:39,300 --> 01:12:41,400
now the conductor came around to pick up his ticket
1239
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,666
and of course he was irritated at every
1240
01:12:43,666 --> 01:12:45,566
everyone and everything at that time of the morning
1241
01:12:45,566 --> 01:12:48,066
with a slight hangover you know
1242
01:12:48,566 --> 01:12:49,766
and he said to the conductor
1243
01:12:49,866 --> 01:12:51,866
the white man band and the next coach
1244
01:12:51,866 --> 01:12:53,566
Mister Glassby has my ticket
1245
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,633
so the conductor came back in about five or six minutes
1246
01:12:57,633 --> 01:13:00,366
he said there's no wiping band on this train
1247
01:13:00,366 --> 01:13:01,433
and big said there must be
1248
01:13:01,433 --> 01:13:02,466
there's gotta be
1249
01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:04,100
and the
1250
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:06,966
conductor finally convinced him that there weren't
1251
01:13:07,566 --> 01:13:11,866
anyone on that on the uh train that could uh
1252
01:13:12,233 --> 01:13:13,933
give him a half his ticket
1253
01:13:14,766 --> 01:13:18,700
and so pics paid him $7 and something for the ticket
1254
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:21,100
which took him to the next stop
1255
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:24,866
which was a couple hours drive or on the train
1256
01:13:26,066 --> 01:13:27,266
and somehow or other
1257
01:13:27,266 --> 01:13:30,100
he remembered the town we were playing in
1258
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:32,933
so he hired a plane he rented a plane
1259
01:13:33,433 --> 01:13:36,366
now not too many guys who were gonna work for somebody
1260
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,700
like people well enough
1261
01:13:39,700 --> 01:13:41,800
and they're gonna cut into their pay
1262
01:13:41,966 --> 01:13:43,733
they're just gonna let it go
1263
01:13:43,966 --> 01:13:47,366
so I don't make it but not Vicks
1264
01:13:48,433 --> 01:13:53,200
he's gonna charter a plane and get there for the date
1265
01:13:53,766 --> 01:13:56,066
which he does he finds the plane
1266
01:14:01,266 --> 01:14:02,700
and he gets up there
1267
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:04,800
and it just turns out that he's up there 2
1268
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:10,466
3 hours before they're gonna make the noon session
1269
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,166
so he figures well I got 2
1270
01:14:13,166 --> 01:14:16,400
3 hours I didn't get much sleep last night
1271
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,733
he said I'll go up and just take a cat nap
1272
01:14:19,466 --> 01:14:23,666
so he goes up and he gets in bed and of course
1273
01:14:23,766 --> 01:14:27,533
he conks off and sleeps right through the concert
1274
01:14:28,066 --> 01:14:33,866
he's in town but uh nobody wakes him up
1275
01:14:33,866 --> 01:14:35,766
nobody else knows he's there
1276
01:14:36,233 --> 01:14:38,566
and he just sleeps right through it
1277
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:39,500
I think
1278
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:41,066
that's one of the funniest things that ever happened
1279
01:14:41,066 --> 01:14:45,500
to Vicks it cost him $107 to to make it to this uh
1280
01:14:46,066 --> 01:14:47,666
where the concert was being played
1281
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,366
a different town each day a relentless schedule wake up
1282
01:15:19,366 --> 01:15:21,000
board the train arrive
1283
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:22,600
rehearse perform
1284
01:15:22,866 --> 01:15:26,500
sometimes perform twice a day little time to eat
1285
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:28,300
sleep and relax
1286
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:36,400
I remember we played Davenport Island 1 one night
1287
01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:37,666
and Bix
1288
01:15:37,666 --> 01:15:41,166
didn't take a drink for two days before we got there
1289
01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:48,066
and one or two days after we left there
1290
01:15:48,066 --> 01:15:50,233
Mick's right back on the nips again
1291
01:15:50,233 --> 01:15:53,166
you know playing and drinking
1292
01:15:53,566 --> 01:15:57,200
unfortunately that was one of his faults
1293
01:15:57,833 --> 01:15:59,533
many others had that fault
1294
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:01,366
and I guess one of the reasons
1295
01:16:01,366 --> 01:16:03,966
I tried to analyze they were doing that
1296
01:16:03,966 --> 01:16:05,933
is that the work was so hard
1297
01:16:06,633 --> 01:16:08,933
that you almost had to drink
1298
01:16:18,233 --> 01:16:20,733
the road stretched on and on
1299
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:25,966
the ever changing landscape of Middle America
1300
01:16:26,166 --> 01:16:28,366
its highways its telegraph wires
1301
01:16:28,366 --> 01:16:29,666
its small towns
1302
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:33,700
after a while it all looked the same
1303
01:16:34,666 --> 01:16:38,366
the same tunes over and over
1304
01:16:39,233 --> 01:16:42,666
the routine interrupted here and there by a solo
1305
01:17:07,033 --> 01:17:08,600
there was little privacy
1306
01:17:08,633 --> 01:17:10,600
no break from each other's company
1307
01:17:11,633 --> 01:17:13,800
after six weeks on the road
1308
01:17:13,900 --> 01:17:16,466
they'd covered almost 20 states
1309
01:17:17,966 --> 01:17:20,100
the boys had become like a family
1310
01:17:20,766 --> 01:17:22,700
they called White Man Pops
1311
01:17:23,033 --> 01:17:24,300
and Bix would later say
1312
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:26,666
that White Man was more like a father to him
1313
01:17:26,666 --> 01:17:28,100
than his own father
1314
01:17:31,266 --> 01:17:32,800
he had a great sense of humor
1315
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,066
for one thing very dry
1316
01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:37,966
but an excellent sense of humor
1317
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,533
and he was a very intelligent guy
1318
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,100
he read a lot and he knew what was going on
1319
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,633
but if somebody said something
1320
01:17:48,633 --> 01:17:50,100
which could have been funny
1321
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:54,966
he could have had his mind on something else and uh
1322
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:58,000
you know he could probably turn around
1323
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,233
what is it what's going on
1324
01:17:59,233 --> 01:18:02,000
you know and it would seem funny coming from him
1325
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,866
it seem like this guy doesn't know what it's all about
1326
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:10,100
so they'll ape him and uh
1327
01:18:10,833 --> 01:18:13,366
and imitate him the boys sometimes
1328
01:18:13,366 --> 01:18:16,100
some of them would would take advantage of Bix
1329
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:18,200
when he was drinking or something like that
1330
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,200
and uh
1331
01:18:19,633 --> 01:18:22,400
I think I recall the time that he
1332
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,266
he always used to have a big
1333
01:18:24,266 --> 01:18:27,000
English bag that used to carry
1334
01:18:27,766 --> 01:18:29,300
uh all of his things in
1335
01:18:29,300 --> 01:18:32,433
and one time some one of the boys put a big
1336
01:18:32,433 --> 01:18:35,466
heavy iron bar in there and big said
1337
01:18:35,466 --> 01:18:37,800
my heavens this thing is getting so heavy
1338
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:40,000
not realizing that he put it on the bottom
1339
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,233
and all of his
1340
01:18:41,233 --> 01:18:43,366
put his laundry on top of it and everything else
1341
01:18:43,366 --> 01:18:48,000
and things like that which I thought was not nice
1342
01:18:48,033 --> 01:18:49,600
they thought maybe that was a good joke
1343
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,200
because he wasn't aware of what was going on
1344
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:52,833
at the time
1345
01:18:52,833 --> 01:18:55,033
and I think maybe that helped their ego or something
1346
01:18:55,033 --> 01:18:55,966
I don't know
1347
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:00,133
there were some that resented him
1348
01:19:00,366 --> 01:19:00,900
well I would say
1349
01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:05,000
I think mostly jealousy of his playing or his ability
1350
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,366
the latitude that Paul gave him
1351
01:19:08,666 --> 01:19:10,866
but Paul gave him this latitude
1352
01:19:10,866 --> 01:19:14,366
because he did recognize the talent of Bakes
1353
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,300
Whitman once said VIX
1354
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:23,133
plays more in three notes
1355
01:19:23,166 --> 01:19:26,066
than most people play in an entire chorus
1356
01:19:49,700 --> 01:19:51,000
but many of the legit
1357
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,566
type players didn't like to be upstaged
1358
01:19:53,833 --> 01:19:56,233
the orchestra was a collection of temperamental
1359
01:19:56,233 --> 01:19:59,333
individuals all competing for the spotlight
1360
01:20:10,066 --> 01:20:12,566
I've had a lot of guys say that
1361
01:20:13,566 --> 01:20:15,066
why don't you give that part to me
1362
01:20:15,066 --> 01:20:17,000
I could have played it just as well
1363
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:19,133
and
1364
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,166
they couldn't make me believe that
1365
01:20:23,466 --> 01:20:24,833
so I gave it to the one
1366
01:20:24,833 --> 01:20:26,766
that I thought could play it best
1367
01:20:31,433 --> 01:20:33,466
after eight weeks on the road
1368
01:20:33,466 --> 01:20:37,166
the orchestra had traveled a staggering 12,000 miles
1369
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,200
everywhere white men packed them in
1370
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,800
he gave people what they wanted
1371
01:20:45,833 --> 01:20:49,266
familiar numbers sweet sounds whatever sold
1372
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,400
and so Bix never a good or fast reader
1373
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,966
was often buried in the complex arrangements
1374
01:21:00,433 --> 01:21:01,966
for routine melodies
1375
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,333
he was given the third or fourth trumpet part
1376
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,066
the least important one
1377
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:11,100
his turn to shine came in the solos
1378
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,366
but the solos were getting fewer and fewer
1379
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,933
white man's commercialism was taking over
1380
01:21:21,466 --> 01:21:23,333
whatever number it would be
1381
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,633
uh he'd be sitting around there waiting for his part
1382
01:21:26,633 --> 01:21:28,066
maybe take a drink who
1383
01:21:28,066 --> 01:21:30,266
who knows it's only natural
1384
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:32,933
any guys have take have done that
1385
01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:37,566
and he didn't get to play the things he loved
1386
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,266
with the White Men Band
1387
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,233
because we were a symphonic band
1388
01:21:42,233 --> 01:21:44,600
we played the same thing every night
1389
01:21:44,966 --> 01:21:46,266
and it got to be tiresome
1390
01:21:46,266 --> 01:21:47,400
you know we played the Rhapsody
1391
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,733
I must have played the Rhapsody 10,000 times in my life
1392
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,400
cause I was in the White Man Band for 10 years
1393
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,333
and we played it every day somewhere
1394
01:21:55,866 --> 01:21:57,000
so it got so
1395
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,700
you could play the Rhapsody in blue
1396
01:21:58,700 --> 01:22:00,700
and sleep at the same time
1397
01:22:00,866 --> 01:22:02,666
I remember many times I'd be up there
1398
01:22:02,666 --> 01:22:05,600
and I'd be so sleepy and I'm still playing
1399
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,366
my eyes would close you know
1400
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:08,900
and many was like
1401
01:22:09,033 --> 01:22:11,666
now you can imagine if you had a stomach full of liquor
1402
01:22:11,666 --> 01:22:14,066
what what was going on
1403
01:22:16,766 --> 01:22:17,300
another tune
1404
01:22:17,300 --> 01:22:19,800
which was a regular feature of the White Man program
1405
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,266
was Gypsy
1406
01:22:22,233 --> 01:22:24,200
audiences loved it
1407
01:22:34,833 --> 01:22:38,200
and I can't remember him having ever been a ladies man
1408
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,733
ever can't look back on that
1409
01:22:42,633 --> 01:22:46,166
he was always with the boys someplace and
1410
01:22:47,566 --> 01:22:49,700
it was the time I was there with him too
1411
01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:51,600
you know we had a couple hours off between
1412
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,966
and the Biltmore especially
1413
01:22:53,966 --> 01:22:55,666
we go right around the corner of the place
1414
01:22:55,666 --> 01:22:56,366
have a few drinks
1415
01:22:56,366 --> 01:22:59,066
the first thing you know that the couple hours are gone
1416
01:22:59,066 --> 01:22:59,866
you know
1417
01:23:01,166 --> 01:23:02,766
that's what killed you most of the time
1418
01:23:02,766 --> 01:23:03,966
playing theaters and this
1419
01:23:03,966 --> 01:23:06,000
the time in between that you had
1420
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,966
what are you gonna do in between these shows
1421
01:23:08,266 --> 01:23:09,200
well you always had it
1422
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,500
someplace where you could have a drink
1423
01:23:10,500 --> 01:23:12,266
or bite to eat or something
1424
01:23:12,633 --> 01:23:16,100
on December the orchestra returned to New York
1425
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,066
fix was not well
1426
01:23:19,766 --> 01:23:22,233
a bad cold turned into pneumonia
1427
01:23:22,233 --> 01:23:24,800
and he had to be hospitalized for two weeks
1428
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:28,066
but he didn't stay away for long
1429
01:23:28,566 --> 01:23:31,866
in mid January he made sure he was back with the band
1430
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,166
they opened at Cleveland's Palace Theatre
1431
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:58,733
at the Palace Theatre they perform four times a day
1432
01:23:59,266 --> 01:24:01,200
more performances than usual
1433
01:24:01,766 --> 01:24:03,733
Bix tried to keep up the pace
1434
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:15,633
on the second day
1435
01:24:15,633 --> 01:24:17,933
he was unable to make the evening performance
1436
01:24:18,433 --> 01:24:20,333
his health had not recovered
1437
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,500
this time he had a total physical breakdown
1438
01:24:27,066 --> 01:24:31,266
he decided to go home to Davenport for peace and quiet
1439
01:24:35,566 --> 01:24:37,933
Bix had not been home for some time
1440
01:24:38,433 --> 01:24:39,833
but he had kept in touch
1441
01:24:39,833 --> 01:24:43,400
by sending his parents a copy of every record he'd made
1442
01:24:45,966 --> 01:24:49,066
one day he chanced upon the entire collection
1443
01:24:49,066 --> 01:24:51,066
in their original mailing boxes
1444
01:24:51,866 --> 01:24:53,400
they'd never been opened
1445
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,400
Eston Spurrier
1446
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,100
remembers the effect the discovery had on Bix
1447
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,900
Bix was a a a
1448
01:25:02,966 --> 01:25:08,533
he was a family boy and he admired and liked his family
1449
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:11,800
it was a little hard for him to understand that
1450
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,600
here he was at the Pinnacle of success in his field
1451
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:17,900
and his chosen field
1452
01:25:18,766 --> 01:25:21,133
and that the family couldn't go along with it
1453
01:25:24,433 --> 01:25:26,700
Bix remained in Davenport for a month
1454
01:25:27,966 --> 01:25:28,633
meanwhile
1455
01:25:28,633 --> 01:25:30,866
Whitman had replaced him with a young cornetist
1456
01:25:30,866 --> 01:25:34,800
named Andy Sechrist a dependable addition to the band
1457
01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:37,200
but he was no bix
1458
01:25:39,166 --> 01:25:41,933
Whitman was delighted to have Bix back on the job
1459
01:25:43,266 --> 01:25:44,866
he'd signed a special contract
1460
01:25:44,866 --> 01:25:46,466
with the Old Gold Cigarette company
1461
01:25:46,466 --> 01:25:48,200
for a weekly radio series
1462
01:25:48,266 --> 01:25:51,133
and was performing nightly at the Amsterdam Theater
1463
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,266
a rough schedule new tunes every week
1464
01:25:58,866 --> 01:26:01,666
it was 1929 now
1465
01:26:01,666 --> 01:26:04,333
radio was the way to bring music to the masses
1466
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,466
and New York the center of broadcasting
1467
01:26:08,566 --> 01:26:10,900
had become the new capital of jazz
1468
01:26:12,266 --> 01:26:15,200
young musicians came to listen and to learn
1469
01:26:15,633 --> 01:26:18,100
one was the clarinetist Artie Shaw
1470
01:26:19,433 --> 01:26:19,833
Bix
1471
01:26:19,833 --> 01:26:23,300
certainly made a sound that had not been heard before
1472
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:24,866
that's an interesting thing to do
1473
01:26:24,866 --> 01:26:26,500
anything that you can do in life
1474
01:26:26,500 --> 01:26:28,033
that has not been done before
1475
01:26:28,033 --> 01:26:30,200
is very interesting to be different
1476
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,466
to be original without setting out to be
1477
01:26:32,466 --> 01:26:32,700
you know
1478
01:26:32,700 --> 01:26:35,400
like scratching the left ear with the right hand
1479
01:26:35,500 --> 01:26:37,900
uh to be different is in itself very
1480
01:26:37,900 --> 01:26:39,366
very difficult I mean
1481
01:26:39,366 --> 01:26:41,366
because almost everything's been done
1482
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:44,933
so most of the trumpet players tried to imitate him
1483
01:26:45,066 --> 01:26:46,000
Red Nichols
1484
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,733
supreme example of somebody who tried to copy Bix
1485
01:26:48,766 --> 01:26:50,400
but the trouble is you know
1486
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,933
he didn't have the sound
1487
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:54,200
the sound was what it was with Bix
1488
01:26:54,966 --> 01:26:57,033
and you could hear the best of that sound in the
1489
01:26:57,033 --> 01:27:00,066
after hours clubs right till dawn
1490
01:27:38,666 --> 01:27:43,066
he was so popular and admired and worshipped was really
1491
01:27:43,066 --> 01:27:46,500
the word worshipped was um
1492
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:49,700
by young people who would come around after a concert
1493
01:27:49,700 --> 01:27:50,700
or after a
1494
01:27:50,833 --> 01:27:53,833
a show in a theater where we played four or five shows
1495
01:27:53,833 --> 01:27:55,666
was always a gang hanging around there
1496
01:27:55,966 --> 01:27:57,566
they wanted to meet him talk to him
1497
01:27:57,566 --> 01:27:59,666
and he was very happy too
1498
01:27:59,666 --> 01:28:01,800
because they were Kindred spirits
1499
01:28:02,566 --> 01:28:05,166
and they would always take him to a place
1500
01:28:05,566 --> 01:28:07,166
where there's a piano and a drum
1501
01:28:07,166 --> 01:28:09,033
etcetera and there's liquor
1502
01:28:09,033 --> 01:28:12,300
right and he would sit up all night playing
1503
01:28:12,866 --> 01:28:15,066
so he was an idol to them
1504
01:28:15,066 --> 01:28:17,600
they pastored him that's what it is
1505
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,866
when you become famous overnight for a long time you
1506
01:28:20,866 --> 01:28:22,733
you you got to
1507
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,533
you got to go with the crowd
1508
01:28:24,666 --> 01:28:27,466
you got to go with the demand of the public
1509
01:28:27,966 --> 01:28:29,300
demand of the musicians
1510
01:28:30,666 --> 01:28:33,233
no privacy at all no privacy at all
1511
01:28:33,233 --> 01:28:36,333
I always say his friends did him harm
1512
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:37,700
they didn't say well
1513
01:28:37,700 --> 01:28:40,233
why don't you go on and get some sleep tonight
1514
01:28:40,233 --> 01:28:42,433
and take sweet and never would say no
1515
01:28:42,433 --> 01:28:43,600
and that's what hurt him
1516
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,166
and I just talked to him as a man here
1517
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,000
but I have your mind sometimes
1518
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,500
that it didn't mean no harm
1519
01:28:49,500 --> 01:28:52,066
but you got to think for yourself man
1520
01:28:52,433 --> 01:28:52,800
and
1521
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,700
the boy didn't have a chance to even live his own life
1522
01:28:56,066 --> 01:28:58,366
musicians continued to come and hear Bix
1523
01:28:58,366 --> 01:28:59,800
as often as they could
1524
01:28:59,866 --> 01:29:01,766
one of them was drummer Herb Weil
1525
01:29:02,300 --> 01:29:05,066
I caught him several times with White Man
1526
01:29:05,066 --> 01:29:08,066
and he got to be in a sort of a stupor
1527
01:29:08,066 --> 01:29:11,466
where he'd sit on the bandstand perfectly straight
1528
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,266
and the first trumpet player
1529
01:29:15,833 --> 01:29:19,666
would whisper something to him every now and then
1530
01:29:20,233 --> 01:29:20,766
for instance
1531
01:29:20,766 --> 01:29:23,666
if he had eight bars coming up in an arrangement
1532
01:29:24,566 --> 01:29:29,133
he'd nudge or pull his sleeve and tell him
1533
01:29:29,566 --> 01:29:32,133
you got eight bars coming up right here
1534
01:29:33,066 --> 01:29:34,666
picks up pick up the horn
1535
01:29:35,033 --> 01:29:36,466
play the 8 bars
1536
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,700
put his horn down and go right back into a stupor again
1537
01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:43,366
all day long he had a hangover and
1538
01:29:43,366 --> 01:29:45,333
and he it was crabby
1539
01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:48,366
all the while I knew him as crap
1540
01:29:48,366 --> 01:29:49,700
it wasn't to me
1541
01:29:50,566 --> 01:29:53,200
not to me but to the other people
1542
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,600
because the other people in the band were
1543
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,966
laughing at him
1544
01:30:02,633 --> 01:30:05,000
he thought people were ridiculing him
1545
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,900
that's what that's what was the matter
1546
01:30:07,700 --> 01:30:08,300
well I've
1547
01:30:08,300 --> 01:30:09,300
I've stood on a
1548
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:11,300
on a street corner with a white man band
1549
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:13,700
someplace where we were all standing together
1550
01:30:13,766 --> 01:30:17,100
and Bix would walk by and he wouldn't even look at it
1551
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:18,666
and after Bix had walked by
1552
01:30:18,666 --> 01:30:21,533
he turned his head and he said what you looking at
1553
01:30:22,766 --> 01:30:26,400
he was sensitive cause that went with a drink
1554
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,266
you know but he was a sweet guy inside of him
1555
01:30:30,266 --> 01:30:31,400
he really was
1556
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,800
The White Men Orchestra left New York
1557
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,566
for another cross country tour
1558
01:30:38,266 --> 01:30:39,633
they headed for the West Coast
1559
01:30:39,633 --> 01:30:42,200
to make a feature film for Universal Studios
1560
01:30:44,266 --> 01:30:47,366
the band arrived in Los Angeles to a gala welcome
1561
01:30:47,366 --> 01:30:48,600
Hollywood style
1562
01:30:50,700 --> 01:30:53,333
but universal couldn't get its act together
1563
01:30:55,566 --> 01:30:56,800
for two and a half months
1564
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,933
the studio kept reworking the script
1565
01:30:59,433 --> 01:31:02,700
while the boys collected a salary of $200 a week
1566
01:31:04,966 --> 01:31:07,300
except for their weekly old gold broadcast
1567
01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:09,700
they had nothing to do but hang around
1568
01:31:29,566 --> 01:31:32,066
Vicks had looked forward to California sunshine
1569
01:31:32,066 --> 01:31:33,900
hoping for a bit of a vacation
1570
01:31:34,666 --> 01:31:35,833
but he and others
1571
01:31:35,833 --> 01:31:38,400
could not resist the lure of Hollywood's parties
1572
01:31:38,900 --> 01:31:41,100
the drinking got heavier than ever
1573
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:43,833
finally
1574
01:31:43,833 --> 01:31:46,866
Whitman's patience with the studio's delays ran out
1575
01:31:47,266 --> 01:31:49,000
he told the boys to pack
1576
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:51,166
they were heading back to New York
1577
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,466
and I said why don't we go to the station and see Bixby
1578
01:31:54,700 --> 01:31:56,266
I heard that they were leaving
1579
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,966
Bixby arrived and he was walking with a cane
1580
01:31:59,966 --> 01:32:01,666
which we were sorry to see
1581
01:32:01,666 --> 01:32:05,500
and he came up and gave us the usual big greeting
1582
01:32:05,500 --> 01:32:07,200
the big smile and everything
1583
01:32:08,066 --> 01:32:11,100
but I could see that he was not too anxious to talk
1584
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:14,000
I think he was a little embarrassed because of the cane
1585
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,000
and he was still having a problem
1586
01:32:18,166 --> 01:32:19,000
so um
1587
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,033
he said fellas
1588
01:32:20,033 --> 01:32:22,500
Gee I'd sure glad to see you
1589
01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:25,900
and I'm awful nice of you to come down to the station
1590
01:32:25,900 --> 01:32:27,466
and all but he said
1591
01:32:27,466 --> 01:32:29,233
I think I better get on the train
1592
01:32:29,233 --> 01:32:32,333
I think I think that the time is running out
1593
01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:00,466
but I'll wear a smile'cause in a little while
1594
01:33:10,500 --> 01:33:12,133
at the end of the road
1595
01:33:18,433 --> 01:33:21,300
I remember once or twice rooming with him
1596
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:22,866
and as I got up
1597
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,966
he had a bottle of gin the side of
1598
01:33:26,966 --> 01:33:28,900
on the floor on the side of the table
1599
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,766
and before he got out of bed to even brush his teeth
1600
01:33:32,766 --> 01:33:34,400
he took a big swig of that gin
1601
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,500
you can imagine what that tasted like
1602
01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:38,500
like at 5:30 in the morning
1603
01:33:39,033 --> 01:33:41,566
you know and you can imagine the
1604
01:33:42,433 --> 01:33:44,033
the trauma he was in
1605
01:33:44,033 --> 01:33:49,466
that he had to have that before he could get up
1606
01:33:50,966 --> 01:33:53,133
on Friday September 13th
1607
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,066
Whitman recorded another take of
1608
01:33:55,066 --> 01:33:57,300
waiting at the end of the road for Columbia
1609
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,300
when big showed up he looked terrible
1610
01:34:02,466 --> 01:34:05,366
even so he got through his eight bar solo
1611
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:25,166
while they were recording the next number
1612
01:34:25,166 --> 01:34:26,400
Bix collapsed
1613
01:34:26,966 --> 01:34:28,600
he could not finish the session
1614
01:34:28,700 --> 01:34:30,700
and returned to his hotel room
1615
01:34:32,066 --> 01:34:35,333
at the studio Andy Seckers took over for him
1616
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,133
Roy Meyer and the others returned to the hotel later
1617
01:34:42,766 --> 01:34:46,866
and as we walked in the clerk behind the desk said
1618
01:34:47,166 --> 01:34:48,933
you better go up and see Bix
1619
01:34:50,166 --> 01:34:50,866
she said yeah
1620
01:34:50,866 --> 01:34:52,500
where is he says he's in the room
1621
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:54,533
saw himself there go take a look at him
1622
01:34:55,366 --> 01:34:57,266
so we walked up to see the
1623
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,666
the room we opened the door
1624
01:35:00,566 --> 01:35:03,400
Victor laying there in his pajamas and old
1625
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,700
starry eyed and everything and and
1626
01:35:05,700 --> 01:35:07,466
and the minute we started to talk to him
1627
01:35:07,466 --> 01:35:10,733
he jumped up and started hitting the wall
1628
01:35:11,900 --> 01:35:12,700
snakes
1629
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,100
yeah you take a sack at the wall
1630
01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:16,866
but the the I'm
1631
01:35:16,866 --> 01:35:19,133
I'm imagine a snake is up in there
1632
01:35:19,566 --> 01:35:20,100
and so
1633
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:23,500
Paul and I went up to the hotel room where he was
1634
01:35:23,500 --> 01:35:24,333
it was a
1635
01:35:24,666 --> 01:35:28,866
it was a very cheap hotel and here he was in bed
1636
01:35:28,866 --> 01:35:31,400
he was just absolutely out
1637
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,300
he had been drinking and
1638
01:35:32,300 --> 01:35:35,766
and he was a shaving all the bed like that then
1639
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,566
I give an imitation just what it looked like
1640
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,700
yes just like that violent
1641
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,466
now that's all I saw of his
1642
01:35:47,966 --> 01:35:50,566
of his DTS so I guess that's
1643
01:35:51,266 --> 01:35:53,266
imagine what all DTS look like
1644
01:35:53,266 --> 01:35:54,966
cause I never saw one before
1645
01:35:55,433 --> 01:35:57,800
you look up there and and hit at the wall just
1646
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,966
just as if it was a snake crawling on that wall
1647
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:05,000
I don't think he uh
1648
01:36:05,300 --> 01:36:08,633
realized how bad he was and so
1649
01:36:08,633 --> 01:36:12,066
Paul made arrangements to send him back to Davenport
1650
01:36:12,366 --> 01:36:15,300
and to recoup and hoping that he would straighten out
1651
01:36:15,300 --> 01:36:15,866
and and
1652
01:36:15,866 --> 01:36:19,300
get his health back and and come join the band
1653
01:36:19,300 --> 01:36:21,733
which never happened again
1654
01:36:27,300 --> 01:36:28,700
his parents reluctantly
1655
01:36:28,700 --> 01:36:31,333
decided that Vicks needed institutional care
1656
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,833
and his brother took him to the Keeley Institute
1657
01:36:33,833 --> 01:36:36,100
well known for its treatment of alcoholics
1658
01:36:37,166 --> 01:36:39,800
one letter from the institute to his parents read
1659
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,166
considering the extremely bad condition
1660
01:36:42,166 --> 01:36:44,266
in which we received Mr Byderbeck
1661
01:36:44,433 --> 01:36:46,066
he's making good progress
1662
01:36:47,233 --> 01:36:49,800
the letter urged his parents to write often
1663
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,200
and encouragingly
1664
01:36:53,433 --> 01:36:56,066
after five weeks Vicks left Keeley
1665
01:36:56,066 --> 01:36:57,000
under doctor's orders
1666
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,600
to abstain totally for the rest of his life
1667
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,366
he stayed home for seven months
1668
01:37:06,566 --> 01:37:09,300
sometimes Vicks looked up old friends
1669
01:37:09,300 --> 01:37:12,666
among them his girlfriend from high school days Vera
1670
01:37:13,233 --> 01:37:14,966
someone told him I was here
1671
01:37:14,966 --> 01:37:17,466
so he called and said he'd like very much to come over
1672
01:37:17,466 --> 01:37:19,700
and we went out for a little ride
1673
01:37:20,366 --> 01:37:23,200
he he was a little sad that night
1674
01:37:23,233 --> 01:37:24,100
that was the the
1675
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,600
the evening that he said
1676
01:37:26,266 --> 01:37:27,600
um I said
1677
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:28,900
where do you go from here
1678
01:37:28,900 --> 01:37:30,600
and he said I wish I knew
1679
01:37:31,166 --> 01:37:33,966
uh he was playing for Paul Whiteman then
1680
01:37:34,233 --> 01:37:35,033
and I said well
1681
01:37:35,033 --> 01:37:36,300
you've reached the peak and he said
1682
01:37:36,300 --> 01:37:38,600
that's just it I have
1683
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,600
and where do you go from there there isn't any place
1684
01:37:46,433 --> 01:37:49,533
it was back in New York on April 23rd, 1930
1685
01:37:49,700 --> 01:37:53,566
27 years old and determined to stay on the wagon
1686
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,666
but it was a different New York
1687
01:37:58,033 --> 01:38:00,200
the 1929 stock market crash
1688
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,266
had knocked the bottom out of the economy
1689
01:38:02,466 --> 01:38:04,800
by 1930 unemployment rose
1690
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,900
hit 12 million The Great
1691
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:08,600
Depression changed everything
1692
01:38:09,233 --> 01:38:10,500
the social scene
1693
01:38:11,566 --> 01:38:12,766
the music scene
1694
01:38:13,633 --> 01:38:15,233
people needed distraction
1695
01:38:15,233 --> 01:38:17,400
and more and more they turned to radio
1696
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,666
we continue the program with the s t
1697
01:38:19,666 --> 01:38:21,666
a R Movie Club requests
1698
01:38:21,666 --> 01:38:24,466
one from Ida Wilcox of Pittsburgh
1699
01:38:24,833 --> 01:38:28,266
another from Hattie McCloud of Montreal
1700
01:38:29,033 --> 01:38:31,933
all asking for popular songs
1701
01:38:31,966 --> 01:38:33,700
and radio that is
1702
01:38:33,700 --> 01:38:36,333
commercial sponsorship of radio programming
1703
01:38:36,433 --> 01:38:38,166
dictated the form of music
1704
01:38:38,566 --> 01:38:41,366
the change affected Vicks more than ever
1705
01:38:43,666 --> 01:38:45,266
the individuality just went out
1706
01:38:45,266 --> 01:38:47,300
right out the window with radio
1707
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,066
they didn't particularly care that Bix
1708
01:38:49,066 --> 01:38:50,466
was gonna play this course
1709
01:38:50,966 --> 01:38:53,400
they seldom wanted any improvising at all
1710
01:38:54,233 --> 01:38:55,233
Bix you know
1711
01:38:55,233 --> 01:38:57,000
he was a different type of guy
1712
01:38:57,833 --> 01:38:58,766
and uh
1713
01:38:59,566 --> 01:39:02,500
what he'd want to know is tell me when I come in
1714
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,333
had he been able to uh
1715
01:39:04,500 --> 01:39:06,733
read and Mark his parts
1716
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:08,500
like Andy Secrets and the other guys
1717
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:10,566
he'd have worked in fact
1718
01:39:10,566 --> 01:39:12,500
there were few other places to work
1719
01:39:12,566 --> 01:39:14,300
the dance halls were closing
1720
01:39:14,433 --> 01:39:16,766
the recording industry was in a slump
1721
01:39:16,833 --> 01:39:19,133
radio had taken over
1722
01:39:19,966 --> 01:39:20,566
meanwhile
1723
01:39:20,566 --> 01:39:23,933
Paul Whiteman had finally filmed The King of jazz
1724
01:39:24,700 --> 01:39:25,366
he too
1725
01:39:25,366 --> 01:39:27,966
was working almost exclusively in radio
1726
01:39:29,666 --> 01:39:31,300
Whitman like everyone else
1727
01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:33,000
was affected by the depression
1728
01:39:33,566 --> 01:39:36,566
he had to cut his orchestra back to 18 members
1729
01:39:36,766 --> 01:39:40,666
and Biggs was a luxury he could no longer afford
1730
01:39:42,366 --> 01:39:46,333
so Bix was alone in New York looking for work
1731
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,933
like a lot of other jazz musicians
1732
01:39:50,466 --> 01:39:53,800
he used to go around sit in here and sit in there
1733
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:56,300
if the fellas had some work for him
1734
01:39:56,300 --> 01:39:58,033
then they would get in touch with him
1735
01:39:58,033 --> 01:40:00,433
but it's it was very true too
1736
01:40:00,433 --> 01:40:03,566
that there wasn't much work around for Vicks
1737
01:40:04,466 --> 01:40:07,266
it's just too bad that it had to be that way
1738
01:40:07,466 --> 01:40:08,433
but uh
1739
01:40:08,433 --> 01:40:10,133
he didn't get back in the band
1740
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:12,166
no he hadn't been drinking
1741
01:40:12,433 --> 01:40:14,100
given it up he figured I'm not gonna
1742
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:15,700
I'm never gonna drink anymore
1743
01:40:15,766 --> 01:40:17,866
and it just so happened that uh
1744
01:40:17,866 --> 01:40:19,300
he was with a couple of guys
1745
01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:20,633
and they took a couple of drinks
1746
01:40:20,633 --> 01:40:23,066
and it started to drink again
1747
01:40:23,066 --> 01:40:24,133
so here
1748
01:40:25,066 --> 01:40:26,400
here he was
1749
01:40:27,066 --> 01:40:28,333
he couldn't help himself
1750
01:40:31,300 --> 01:40:33,200
he tried to stay on the wagon
1751
01:40:33,633 --> 01:40:36,733
sometimes he managed sometimes he didn't
1752
01:40:37,266 --> 01:40:40,200
too many speakeasies in downtown Manhattan
1753
01:40:43,300 --> 01:40:45,333
he finally secured work
1754
01:40:45,633 --> 01:40:48,700
a weekly radio spot on the Camel Pleasure Hour
1755
01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:51,466
the producer of the program who hired him
1756
01:40:51,466 --> 01:40:52,666
was an old fan
1757
01:40:54,500 --> 01:40:56,366
Vicks was pleased with the job
1758
01:40:56,500 --> 01:40:59,466
it was another chance to establish his reliability
1759
01:41:01,700 --> 01:41:04,200
he was determined to make a go of it
1760
01:41:06,066 --> 01:41:08,500
he set up a permanent residence in room 6
1761
01:41:08,500 --> 01:41:12,333
0 5 in the 44th Street Hotel in downtown Manhattan
1762
01:41:15,433 --> 01:41:19,700
everyone knew it and everyone came to visit
1763
01:41:21,766 --> 01:41:24,100
they banged on his door at all hours
1764
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,266
they all wanted him to play
1765
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,700
and so he played
1766
01:41:29,866 --> 01:41:32,400
as I stayed in his room that afternoon
1767
01:41:32,566 --> 01:41:34,500
a parade of people in there all
1768
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:37,100
all the time one right after the other
1769
01:41:37,466 --> 01:41:38,266
uh
1770
01:41:38,700 --> 01:41:41,666
and I I had the feeling that
1771
01:41:41,900 --> 01:41:44,233
that many of them offered him drinks
1772
01:41:44,233 --> 01:41:47,200
and he he was not a guy could say no
1773
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:48,366
he always
1774
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:50,466
whether he wanted it or not I
1775
01:41:50,466 --> 01:41:52,700
I presume by that time he couldn't
1776
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:54,233
probably could have gotten along without it
1777
01:41:54,233 --> 01:41:56,300
but he wouldn't say no
1778
01:41:56,966 --> 01:41:58,966
he didn't impress me as being very well
1779
01:41:58,966 --> 01:42:00,066
he uh
1780
01:42:00,066 --> 01:42:02,733
I couldn't detect anything other than uh
1781
01:42:04,966 --> 01:42:07,866
his face didn't appear it looked strained
1782
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:12,733
to me it looked like he was under some kind of a strain
1783
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:15,300
and I think it was probably his health
1784
01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:17,066
which he refused to admit
1785
01:42:17,966 --> 01:42:20,500
and he was just burying that himself I think
1786
01:42:30,566 --> 01:42:32,800
the job at the pleasure hour continued
1787
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:34,966
but by now there were problems
1788
01:42:35,666 --> 01:42:39,466
Roy Meyer recalls he was playing all right
1789
01:42:39,466 --> 01:42:40,966
but he was kind of stumbling
1790
01:42:41,633 --> 01:42:44,066
kinda uncertain and uh
1791
01:42:44,066 --> 01:42:46,533
sometimes Vicki get all rattled up uh
1792
01:42:47,700 --> 01:42:49,066
uh playing a
1793
01:42:49,066 --> 01:42:51,233
a course on a concert and
1794
01:42:51,233 --> 01:42:51,700
and a lot
1795
01:42:51,700 --> 01:42:54,400
a lot means anything and everything is focused on you
1796
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,266
and you get stumble or something
1797
01:42:56,366 --> 01:42:59,800
and Liam Mcconville wouldn't get up
1798
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:01,500
but he start playing it
1799
01:43:02,633 --> 01:43:05,333
he missed as many rehearsals as he made
1800
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,100
and sometimes he forgot his horn
1801
01:43:09,166 --> 01:43:12,200
toward the end of the October 8th Camel Hour broadcast
1802
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,933
Vic stood up to take an eight bar solo
1803
01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:18,733
in the middle of the solo he blacked out
1804
01:43:23,433 --> 01:43:25,666
Leo Mcconville came to the rescue
1805
01:43:26,833 --> 01:43:28,366
within a few days
1806
01:43:28,366 --> 01:43:30,566
the show found a permanent replacement
1807
01:43:33,466 --> 01:43:35,200
Vicks went back to Davenport
1808
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:37,766
for four and a/2 months
1809
01:43:37,766 --> 01:43:41,233
he rested at home in a world that was no longer
1810
01:43:41,233 --> 01:43:42,166
his world
1811
01:43:43,700 --> 01:43:47,300
in late February of 1931 he returned to New York
1812
01:43:47,300 --> 01:43:50,866
back to Room 6 0 5 of the 44th Street Hotel
1813
01:43:52,266 --> 01:43:54,833
as soon as the gang heard he was back in town
1814
01:43:54,833 --> 01:43:56,066
they came around
1815
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,300
from dusk to dawn they bothered him
1816
01:44:04,266 --> 01:44:06,333
they weren't really his friends
1817
01:44:06,500 --> 01:44:08,666
they were the kind of people who wanted to say
1818
01:44:08,666 --> 01:44:11,333
they were there that they'd heard him play
1819
01:44:20,833 --> 01:44:21,466
sometimes
1820
01:44:21,466 --> 01:44:23,866
they carried them off for a late night on the town
1821
01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:30,100
they never left him alone
1822
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,366
and the playing never stopped
1823
01:44:41,066 --> 01:44:42,833
in one of his letters home
1824
01:44:42,833 --> 01:44:43,300
the son
1825
01:44:43,300 --> 01:44:45,733
who could never fulfill his parents'expectations
1826
01:44:46,266 --> 01:44:48,366
seemed eager to gain their approval
1827
01:44:49,866 --> 01:44:50,933
dear folks
1828
01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:54,000
you probably will tear this up before you read it
1829
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,266
because you must be disgusted with me
1830
01:44:57,833 --> 01:45:01,500
but I'll take a chance and write anyway you can
1831
01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:04,066
believe me or not but I was sick
1832
01:45:04,433 --> 01:45:06,833
I had that yearly attack of tonsillitis
1833
01:45:06,833 --> 01:45:10,600
and it was terrible lying here thinking of you
1834
01:45:11,766 --> 01:45:13,400
I had to cancel three dates
1835
01:45:13,866 --> 01:45:16,000
and you can tell Uncle Tol
1836
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,266
that the only reason I'm writing this now
1837
01:45:18,266 --> 01:45:20,333
is because of Christian Science
1838
01:45:21,500 --> 01:45:23,500
because I would have died
1839
01:45:23,500 --> 01:45:25,600
if I hadn't talked myself out of it with
1840
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,400
with the worry et cetera
1841
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,833
if I'd known that it was so rough for dad to send
1842
01:45:31,833 --> 01:45:34,400
that I I wouldn't have asked for it
1843
01:45:35,966 --> 01:45:37,300
another thing I'm sorry about is
1844
01:45:37,300 --> 01:45:39,466
I'm not sending mom anything for her birthday
1845
01:45:39,466 --> 01:45:43,266
but March 1st was my sickest day
1846
01:45:44,433 --> 01:45:47,766
I swear this was not from drinking
1847
01:45:50,466 --> 01:45:52,400
I'm all right now and I
1848
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:54,333
and I booked several jobs
1849
01:45:54,633 --> 01:45:56,600
college parties with my band
1850
01:45:57,100 --> 01:46:00,000
doing club dates radio etcetera
1851
01:46:00,966 --> 01:46:02,866
that's all I have to say and
1852
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,200
I'll do my best to send you the money that you
1853
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,266
so kindly and timely
1854
01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:11,400
sent me as soon as I can
1855
01:46:11,633 --> 01:46:14,133
also the income money
1856
01:46:14,766 --> 01:46:15,933
much love
1857
01:46:16,500 --> 01:46:17,300
VIX
1858
01:46:19,166 --> 01:46:20,133
yes
1859
01:46:20,866 --> 01:46:23,133
have you heard the candlelight program
1860
01:46:26,766 --> 01:46:29,166
the gang still kept coming around
1861
01:46:29,566 --> 01:46:31,933
if they weren't partying in Vix's room
1862
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,066
there was always a party uptown
1863
01:46:34,700 --> 01:46:38,066
they dragged him along expecting him to play
1864
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:45,700
in midsummer he moved away from downtown Manhattan
1865
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:49,400
he found a quiet apartment in the borough of Queens
1866
01:46:51,866 --> 01:46:53,333
few people saw him
1867
01:46:53,466 --> 01:46:56,066
occasionally he played at college dances
1868
01:46:56,266 --> 01:46:58,833
he spent most of his time playing the piano
1869
01:46:58,833 --> 01:46:59,966
and composing
1870
01:47:38,833 --> 01:47:42,133
there is mum and dad I hope you're all well
1871
01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:45,933
now about my future wife
1872
01:47:47,033 --> 01:47:49,000
born in New York never been out
1873
01:47:49,666 --> 01:47:51,266
you should hear her accent
1874
01:47:51,666 --> 01:47:53,400
sounds like Aunt Blanche
1875
01:47:54,300 --> 01:47:56,933
red headed blue eyes
1876
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:04,100
sometime that summer
1877
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:06,400
Vic spent an evening with Hoagy Carmichael
1878
01:48:07,233 --> 01:48:10,000
I heard he had a girlfriend and I got a hold of him
1879
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:10,433
I said
1880
01:48:10,433 --> 01:48:12,500
bring the girlfriend over and have dinner with me
1881
01:48:12,500 --> 01:48:13,766
and which he did
1882
01:48:14,266 --> 01:48:17,000
he came and I offered him a drink and he refused it
1883
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:18,200
I'll have you know well
1884
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:19,833
I had one because I wanted it
1885
01:48:19,833 --> 01:48:21,466
and I played a little piano
1886
01:48:21,466 --> 01:48:23,966
but I didn't ask him to play because I
1887
01:48:23,966 --> 01:48:26,866
I knew how he was that I didn't want him to think that
1888
01:48:26,866 --> 01:48:29,066
I invite him over to hear him play
1889
01:48:32,866 --> 01:48:33,866
dear folks
1890
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,666
by now you have Alice's picture
1891
01:48:37,566 --> 01:48:38,866
what do you think of her
1892
01:48:39,666 --> 01:48:41,333
we're together constantly
1893
01:48:41,633 --> 01:48:44,233
I dragged her to one of those photoshops on Broadway
1894
01:48:44,233 --> 01:48:47,100
and for a buck we had that made and enlarged
1895
01:48:47,666 --> 01:48:49,200
the little sweetheart framed it
1896
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,966
packed it sent it to you when she knew you wanted it
1897
01:48:54,300 --> 01:48:56,966
Bix's letter never finished
1898
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,800
the story goes that in midsummer Vicks
1899
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:07,266
though running a high fever
1900
01:49:07,266 --> 01:49:11,466
played a date with some fellows he had promised to play
1901
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,000
so he played
1902
01:49:14,033 --> 01:49:17,300
he caught pneumonia and died a few days later
1903
01:49:17,566 --> 01:49:20,133
on August 6th, 1931
1904
01:49:20,900 --> 01:49:22,800
though he abstained from drinking
1905
01:49:22,866 --> 01:49:26,366
it was too late the damage had been done
1906
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,966
he was 28 years old
1907
01:49:30,900 --> 01:49:33,166
the doctor's verdict was lobar pneumonia
1908
01:49:33,166 --> 01:49:34,700
with swelling of the brain
1909
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:35,700
but perhaps
1910
01:49:35,700 --> 01:49:39,100
it would be more accurate to say that Bix died
1911
01:49:39,100 --> 01:49:40,066
of everything
1912
01:49:41,433 --> 01:49:42,900
my brother called
1913
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,433
he was in New York and went
1914
01:49:45,433 --> 01:49:47,466
went to get him and bring him home
1915
01:49:50,033 --> 01:49:53,333
we didn't even know he'd been sick and he had pneumonia
1916
01:49:55,833 --> 01:49:59,866
I had a terrible feeling of regret
1917
01:50:00,066 --> 01:50:03,666
when I finally found out what happened to Bix
1918
01:50:03,766 --> 01:50:05,866
our boys and our band
1919
01:50:06,466 --> 01:50:07,566
uh we had plenty of money
1920
01:50:07,566 --> 01:50:08,366
Jeepers Creepers
1921
01:50:08,366 --> 01:50:09,700
we had nothing but money
1922
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:14,900
and we could have come over and grabbed Bix and uh
1923
01:50:15,866 --> 01:50:20,566
put him among friends and cured him of his
1924
01:50:20,700 --> 01:50:26,400
of his habits and let him regain his health
1925
01:50:27,366 --> 01:50:30,733
and we didn't do it we let him get away and uh
1926
01:50:31,900 --> 01:50:34,466
that's one of the things I when uh
1927
01:50:34,466 --> 01:50:35,233
when uh
1928
01:50:35,233 --> 01:50:38,000
I'm ever asked about Big Spider Bay
1929
01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:40,366
I feel that uh
1930
01:50:40,966 --> 01:50:44,400
I committed a horrible sin of omission
1931
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:45,400
omission
1932
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:47,166
we could have
1933
01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:49,966
we could have had a different ending for that boy
1934
01:50:52,266 --> 01:50:53,900
it's pretty hard to uh
1935
01:50:54,366 --> 01:50:56,333
change history much isn't it
1936
01:50:57,066 --> 01:50:57,933
so
1937
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:02,866
but anyway I
1938
01:51:02,900 --> 01:51:06,000
I still wish that we'd done something for him
1939
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:06,900
we could have
1940
01:51:36,500 --> 01:51:38,100
para ser
1941
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:30,500
just couldn't believe it that a man that young
1942
01:53:30,566 --> 01:53:31,866
but they say
1943
01:53:32,300 --> 01:53:34,500
they've always said that geniuses like that
1944
01:53:34,500 --> 01:53:36,966
they don't last too long some reason or another
1945
01:53:36,966 --> 01:53:40,000
they just they come and make their presence known
1946
01:53:40,000 --> 01:53:43,200
and upset everybody and then they will cut out
1947
01:54:54,166 --> 01:54:56,933
he's a legend you just gotta think
1948
01:54:57,066 --> 01:54:57,833
think oh
1949
01:54:57,833 --> 01:55:00,700
think music think legend think the name
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