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Yeah, there's a little shade here.
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An architectural masterpiece
of urban planning.
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Fresh from the drawing board:
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the theory of an urban district.
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Guess they're going
to call this "Europacity."
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Europe is certainly deserving of that.
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Should I turn it up?
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We don't have power anymore.
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We need power.
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NOTICE OF TERMINATION
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Things can't stay as they are.
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Things aren't allowed
to stay as they are.
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Let's assume the three of us live here.
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We live a makeshift life.
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Our bags are always half packed,we're on the go.
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Freedom is important to us.We have no bonds and don't want any.
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-Take care. Good luck!
-Bye!
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Hello!
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-Hey.
-Hi.
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-Give that here.
-Camera.
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Our goals are short term.
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The main objectiveis to make ourselves happy.
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The main objective
is to make ourselves happy?
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My film's about self-optimized individuals
and collective consciousness.
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I wanted to know
what you're aspiring to at the moment.
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What is your ideal aim?
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You mean for my future?
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Yes, for your future
but also more generally.
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These things provethe arbitrariness of economic principles.
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These shoes were new and had a price.
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They're still new, but the priceis now a fraction of what it was.
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All the same, no one wants them.
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Is this all without value?
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When does it have a value?Right now it's clearly superfluous.
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This is broken and worthless now.
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I put it back together
and it's Jeff Koons' "Balloon Dog."
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It was once worth 10,000 dollars.
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-Excuse me?
-Yes?
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Can I give you 10,000 dollars for this?
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No, you don't need to pay.
You can just have it.
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-Thank you.
-You're welcome.
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Thanks.
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-Hello, Mr. Felsch.
-Hello.
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Mr. Felsch I read your book.
It inspired me to do the film I'm making.
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I was wondering where we are today.
Have we entered a "long winter of theory"?
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Because that combination
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of theory, reading and political revolt
no longer exists in that way.
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Firstly, we have
an entirely different reading culture.
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You can really see that at universities.
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-You work at a university.
-I do, that's right.
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I teach cultural studies
at Humboldt University.
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I believe the people
who were part of the 1968 generation
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were, above all else, gifted readers.
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As has been noted repeatedly
that generation itself
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didn't really produce
very many high-level theoreticians.
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-They...
-That's interesting.
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As if one can't read and write
at the same time.
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That's sort of the point I wanted to make.
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Lots of figures
from the 1968 political scene
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read a whole lot
and got books and texts in circulation.
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Like the founders of little left-wing
publishing houses, such as Merve.
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When you look around universities today
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it's actually virtually the reverse.
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That is, we are all
constantly writing something.
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People write a lot more
during their studies.
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Cyberculture has greatly reduced
inhibitions about producing writing.
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Without having to go to any fuss
you can get publicity in some form.
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There's probably
a lot more resistance with a typewriter.
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With a typewriter
what you've written is only on paper,
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no one reads it.
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There are a lot more ways
to get publicity today.
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Peer-to-peer culture encourages writing.
It's very empowering.
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You have to wonder
if all that's written is getting read.
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Yes, mathematically that can't be.
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So how is it as a historian?
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Can you research the future as well?
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-Is the future relevant to an historian?
-I think that's a pretty important point.
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The long summer of theory,
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the reason it was so long and so hot
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was because they were theories
that ventured to predict the future.
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The blueprint for that was Marxism
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or the philosophy of history,
which goes back roughly to Hegel.
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Theories
that don't just describe things in the now
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but that also make a claim to know
how history will develop going forward
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and that always project towards
some objective at the end of history.
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I don't think we can go back
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to those grand, optimistic
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teleological narratives
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that tell us what direction
things are heading in,
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what direction history is moving,
it's meaning.
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Yet, at the same time, I see,
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in and outside of universities,
things like the Anthropocene discussion.
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They show
there's obviously a desire for that again.
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That after these 20 years
of postmodernism
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there's a desire to return to something,
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to develop a theory of history
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that can somehow or other give us a sense
of how the story will go on.
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I think it's clear that has resurfaced.
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I'll sleep with you.
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Yes, I'll sleep with you.
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Now that we've been married for a day.
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Yesterday,
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on April 29, 1945, we got married.
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My name is now "Eva Hitler."
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My hair has turned brown in the bunker.
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Like my old name.
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"Eva Braun."
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Braun. You have to roll the R,
that's what they did back then.
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What kind of a text is it anyway?
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I'm no longer pretty.
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My powder boxes are empty.
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My silk stockings have runs.
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Runs.
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And tomorrow...
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Tomorrow we'll all be dead.
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But I'm going to fuck you before then.
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I think that's good.
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Yeah, I reinterpreted the text.
No one can perform this crap.
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-And then?
-"And then" what?
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What happened then?
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Then another girl came and she did it.
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Bye-bye German Film Award.
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-You'd have given him a blow job?
-I'd do anything for a lead role.
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Besides, let's be honest.
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What's the deal with humanizing a monster?
Am I supposed to empathize with Eva Braun?
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"Sentimental drama
in the Führer's bunker."
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Nazis had human emotions too.
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Justification of the past
is the new genre with "good Nazis."
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Justification of the past?
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I have a different theory
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I think those films are so well-loved
because of the female parts.
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Back then women
were still beautiful, seductive,
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and, most importantly, submissive.
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You know, that brings back memories
of the good old days,
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when a man was still a man
and a woman was still a woman.
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Frau.
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-Frau!
-The woman from bygone days.
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At least your part had a name.
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Recent movies
hardly ever pass the Bechdel test.
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-What test?
-The Bechdel test.
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It indicates if a film is misogynistic.
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A film isn't that
if it has at least two female parts.
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And they have to talk to each other
about a topic besides men.
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-What else do you want to talk about?
-Yeah, that's right.
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-What else would we talk about?
-That's about it, really.
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This isn't going to be misogynistic,
but it won't be very kind to men either.
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Okay, read it.
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"Dear, etc... I find your movie title,
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"The Long Journeyfrom Collective Consciousness
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"to Self-Optimized Individual -We become I..."
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-Cumbersome?
-"Romantic.
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"You swoon over the past.
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"Nostalgia oozes forth
like lukewarm gravy..."
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If your theory is labeled "romantic"
you can take it to an emotional level.
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You have to do that in every screenplay.
It's about identification.
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This is a total Hollywood
independent film expert speaking, right?
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I don't want
a character to identify with.
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Why not?
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It imposes foreign emotions on you
and I don't want to be manipulated.
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-I mean I'm really hungry.
-Yes, I'll be there in a sec.
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What kind of a character is Detlef?
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Detlef has always been here
in this apartment.
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Yeah, when we moved in
he always slept in the bathtub.
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-Until we got him the sofa.
-Thanks.
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Detlef has seen the entire recent past.
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He basically holds 30 years of history
inside him and now he mostly keeps silent.
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-So the silent past?
-That's enough for me.
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I don't want to sit here later
and have done nothing.
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Can you convey that to the viewer?
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It's not entertainment.
Nola is making a political film.
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-And it's about freedom.
-Freedom sounds a bit romantic, right?
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-Replenishments.
-Finally!
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Freedom isn't romantic, it's existential.
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We'll notice that when it's gone.
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Where are your doors?
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-They were in bad need of refurbishment.
-Yeah, that's right.
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Yes, they urgently had to be fitted
with gilded doorknobs.
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-The hypothesis is: What should we do?
-That's no hypothesis.
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Sure, we just have to scream it out:
"What should we do?!"
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That's all been done.
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It's how Baader and Meinhof
sat at the table planning abductions.
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Nonsense! First they set fire
to a department store in Frankfurt.
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Yeah, but we're talking about
not reenacting the past.
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Not reenacting it but processing it.
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Or as inspiration.
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But still the question remains:
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What to do?
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-Hi.
-Hi.
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-Hi.
-Hey.
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Is something going on with you guys?
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Nothing at all is going on.
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Work, earning a living,
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a livelihood.
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And we're not any further ahead.
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The low-wage sector
is still primarily occupied by women.
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More and more so.
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A growing number of women
are working in low-wage jobs
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like caregiving,
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cleaning.
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And then the neoliberal blather
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about how emancipating it is
when a woman can provide for herself.
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She has to provide for herself.
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All that does is provide capitalism
with cheap labor.
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And women end up doing
the same jobs as always.
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I toil for my independence.
That's a contradiction in terms.
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You know what, Nola,
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sometimes I'd like
to have it like that too.
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Someone who helps me put my coat on,
who holds the door open for me
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or who escorts me to the table.
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And who reads the menu to you.
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An older man who fumbles
to get his reading glasses out. Oh, Katja!
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You know what I mean.
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But, you know,
as long as the tourists come
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and pay their 25 euros a head per night
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and are happy with that
everything's dandy.
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At least someone invented
the washing machine.
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Yeah, what are we complaining about?
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-I think we should go in for the audio.
-Sounds good.
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Can you explain
the term "state feminism" to me?
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That's the title of our book
and it's actually meant a bit ironically.
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About ten years ago it was a surprise
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to see established politicians
turn feminist.
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They gave passionate speeches about
the importance of women's independence.
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Then came a series of reforms.
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The parental allowance was introduced,
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day care was expanded
and "mini-jobs" were introduced.
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Ultimately it was clear
that the main aim of that reform
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was to get well-educated women
to have lots of kids
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and to get them to return to work
as quickly as possible after childbirth.
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Once you realized
that it's primarily women
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who take care
of small children and old people
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it turned out that it was ultimately
the intensification of a double burden.
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As far as we know that has never been
the aim of a feminist movement.
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We don't know anybody who wants that.
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So the burden on women
has actually increased
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thanks to prevailing ideas
of motherhood?
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Yes.
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But you can't view that independently
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from the other laws
that have changed as well.
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The Hartz IV reforms to unemployment
and social welfare were implemented,
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so were mini-jobs and part-time jobs.
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And all those things led to
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a lot more women being in employment.
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The labor force participation rate
for women
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has increased from 2003 to today
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to over 70 percent.
247
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And back then it was 55 percent.
248
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That's something that makes you wonder:
249
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How did that happen?
250
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Why has the state
discovered feminism all of a sudden
251
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and why do we now have so many women
with children who are working?
252
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So it's really about creating
a more productive society,
253
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about incentives
to make society more productive.
254
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-That's how I see it.
-And to preserve the capitalist system.
255
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-Actually.
-Yes, to preserve it...
256
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-Or even to...
-To optimize it.
257
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Yes, to optimize it.
258
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So that... Yes, you really can say that.
What does it mean for society?
259
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Well-educated women
who are then supposed to be...
260
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After having spent all of 20 years
going to school and studying
261
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they're supposed to put all their effort
into raising one or two children?
262
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As far as the state's concerned
that's a huge waste,
263
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from a capitalist standpoint
it is as well.
264
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Basically those women
are supposed to continue
265
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to make their productivity available
to the market.
266
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Nowadays most women have to work.
Lots of women had to do that before too.
267
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But in this day and age
there are more demands.
268
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Women are expected
to have immensely successful careers
269
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while at the same time,
and we haven`t yet talked about this,
270
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lofty demands are being put
on mothers and fathers.
271
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You can't just raise a kid nowadays,
272
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they have to be very gifted
and you have to foster
273
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your children as much as possible.
274
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,600
I insist upon my right to laziness.
275
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Like other people insist
upon their right to work.
276
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I've always been
a flop on the job market.
277
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Whatever.
278
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840
I had a job as a corpse in the theater.
279
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In this play
that was like three hours long.
280
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I died ten minutes into it.
281
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,960
I lay there, me with my weak bladder.
282
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080
I couldn't hold it anymore
after 40 minutes.
283
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,240
And I had to decide if I was going
to pee onstage or go to the toilet.
284
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,560
I chose the toilet.
285
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,320
I got up, went to the toilet,
286
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,520
came back
287
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,840
and lay down in the same place.
288
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,200
No one really noticed.
289
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,280
But the director totally blew his top.
290
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,680
He was so hot-tempered
he fired me on the spot.
291
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,200
It's absurd, as if anyone really believed
you were dead.
292
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-Yeah!
-That's an idea.
293
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Theater with real corpses.
294
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Maybe with volunteers
who want to live out their final rush.
295
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,560
Yeah, like GG Allin.
296
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He died in front of his audience.
He did it.
297
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Even as a corpse in a theater
298
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you still have no right to laziness.
299
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,800
Come on.
300
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,600
You coming?
301
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,200
Hey, come on!
302
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,280
That's good. One, two...
303
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,120
three!
304
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Towards me. That's right.
305
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,800
We're nearly done.
306
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:38,320
Oh yeah, this is...
307
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,520
I don't even know what his name is.
308
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,560
-Time for a Sexy Lamp Test.
-Oh, you're mean!
309
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,720
We'll take the part out of the script
and replace it with a decorative lamp.
310
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
If the story doesn't change, it's a fail.
311
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,960
Two against one, so...
312
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400
Man, you guys are so mean!
313
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,600
The guy is really nice,
and a great actor to boot.
314
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,040
-Hello.
-Hello.
315
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,760
Hi. Nice lamp.
316
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840
-Can we borrow your bike again?
-Yeah.
317
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,560
-Do the Chinese guys still need it?
-The Chinese guys don't need a bike.
318
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,960
Yes, you can take it.
319
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,400
-Have you found a new apartment?
-Mom says we won't with all the dogs.
320
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480
-What'll you do then?
-Grandma has a yard.
321
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,880
Do we know where we're going to move yet?
322
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,440
"My husband is my home."
That's what my grandma said.
323
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,560
I mean, what are we doing here anyway?
I mean in the here and now.
324
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,160
Are we different
or are the times different?
325
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,640
We're sitting at a dumb hand-me-down table
with all our old crap.
326
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000
And all we own is the cup in our hands.
327
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Wouldn't the situation
be totally different
328
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,360
if we were sitting
in a cozy little garden?
329
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680
Like in the community garden Bornholm II?
330
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520
We're different people in this situation.
331
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160
We'd read a Friedrich Kittler text
totally differently.
332
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160
We may even interpret it differently,
333
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,800
take the opposing position,
not an affirmative one.
334
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,160
I doubt I'd read it at all.
These brats would have me at my wit's end.
335
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,880
The situation could be totally different.
336
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Imagine it, we're sitting in the salon
337
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,280
of a 200-square-meter
pre-WWII apartment on Pariser Strasse.
338
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680
The nanny
has already put the brats to bed.
339
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Or we didn't have any to begin with.
Right? You not here at all!
340
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,000
Wow! I never thought
your imagination was so bourgeois.
341
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,960
To be honest I find it pretty strenuous
to keep my bearing all day.
342
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520
I mean, bearing in what sense?
343
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960
-Towards what?
-I imagine it being quite fun.
344
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,760
You know, when you really get into it
and get a feel for it.
345
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760
But then it'd be the only life you have.
346
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Thank you.
347
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,240
We could do something totally normal.
348
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Yes.
349
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,480
An occupation we never would've chosen
of our own free will.
350
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,280
Right, this is for you.
You can read through it.
351
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,720
Well, if I had to sit here
at my desk every day
352
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,960
I think I'd try to find happiness
in the evenings and on weekends.
353
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,000
-I think that makes lots of things easier.
-I couldn't do it.
354
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,720
But if I had to
355
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,960
maybe then I could.
356
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Maybe you have to have to
to be able to.
357
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,200
And then it makes sense
to rebel against all this crap.
358
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,200
You're right about that,
everything here really is total crap.
359
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,480
We're going on about parallel worlds.
We could do this forever.
360
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,120
Yet it doesn't get us any further along,
and we never go far enough.
361
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,840
A coffee picker in Bali,
a seamstress in Bangladesh,
362
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,600
we jump from one extreme to the other.
363
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,960
The more extreme we get
the more we neutralize ourselves.
364
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,400
Neutralize?
365
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,360
Yeah.
366
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,120
We always revert to being ourselves.
367
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Yeah.
368
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Damn!
369
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Yeah, you have to position yourself.
370
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160
To find a position.
371
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400
But within or without?
372
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Do I think from the inside out
or do I see myself from the outside?
373
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320
I would actually rather do the latter.
374
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520
But I fear there is no "outside" anymore.
375
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,040
The individual
has greedily absorbed that within.
376
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680
But what you dream of, or what you mean,
377
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360
is that everyone is outside.
378
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,040
That no one follows
any rules or any laws anymore.
379
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,280
And that brings us back
to the Red Army Faction.
380
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,040
No, that's baloney.
381
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Even if I were allowed to break laws
I don't know which laws I'd want to break,
382
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560
let alone demolish.
383
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,240
I can think of one or two things
that one could demolish.
384
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680
Yes, you as an individualist.
385
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,440
But, in all honesty,
386
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,560
we're all totally sedated
387
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680
and stupefied
with little gifts and rewards.
388
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,560
And no one voluntarily demolishes
their little reward.
389
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,560
That's a primal instinct.
390
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,080
Sure, but I'm not even that far along.
It's not relevant to me.
391
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,160
Right now I don't have any possessions
that I could defend.
392
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,000
All right then,
I'll explain the entry area to you now.
393
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,000
As you can see it's a prestigious space,
gloriously awash in light.
394
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,080
You could call this room
the centerpiece of the apartment.
395
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Look how the wonderful features
of this old structure are brought to bear.
396
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,440
-Cool, eh?
-That's right, I want to hear a "whoop!"
397
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,400
Yes, now I'll show you the bathroom units.
398
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,480
You can have them converted and made into
a designer bath and sanitary facilities.
399
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,520
-Hello, Ms. Jaeggi.
-Hello, Nola.
400
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,320
How do you define
the term "forms of life"?
401
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,800
I'll tell you the formula
and then explain it.
402
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,480
They are something akin to inert bundles
or ensembles of social practices.
403
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,040
That alludes to some things
that are key to the term "forms of life."
404
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,840
One is that they are social practices,
405
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,120
things that people do and that they do
with certain behavioral patterns
406
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,320
that are social in that they are
socially shaped and defined.
407
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,480
When discussing forms of life people argue
about what practices to include.
408
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,960
Is a family still a family if the members
no longer talk or eat dinner together?
409
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,320
-Lots of fighting.
-Interesting.
410
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640
Is it a city
if it no longer has public places
411
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,160
where people can meet up
without making a date and without paying?
412
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,240
You could say
that contradicts the idea of a city,
413
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,680
or of how we construe the city
as a form of life if such spots are gone.
414
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,800
In the film we dream ourselves away
into other scenarios.
415
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,000
So we're actually a little bit weary
of our existing form of life,
416
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000
or of existence in general.
417
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,520
So we dream about how it would be
if we had a bourgeois family
418
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,440
or if we had jobs that didn't allow us
so much time to think,
419
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200
jobs that are a lot more structured.
420
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520
But in the end we realize
421
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,720
no matter where we dream ourselves away to
we always revert back to ourselves.
422
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,240
What do you think about that?
423
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640
I mean, would that change me?
424
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,480
Or, what does a form of life
do with me, as an individual?
425
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,320
The idea that I as an individual am here
and the form or life is here,
426
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,560
like it's some kind of armor
that you slip into,
427
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,720
or as if your form or life were
some kind of a cabin that you walk into
428
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,880
but can also walk back out of
and be yourself.
429
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,840
Yes, that is not the notion that I...
430
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,040
That isn't the notion
that guides me or that...
431
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,560
I don't assume that,
I basically assume that you...
432
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:25,960
I assume that getting out of
that socially determined behavioral...
433
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,960
What I mean is
that you can't escape interpretations
434
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,040
of how you see your life and what you are.
435
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,240
That is, you can't just step out of them.
436
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,760
When you step out of them
you're still referring back to them.
437
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,080
-A good way to explain that may be...
-There is no neutral space?
438
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,800
-Exactly.
-I'm always in a form of life.
439
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,720
I can't step out into a vacuum
with no form of life
440
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,680
and step into a new one.
441
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,960
But you can still consciously plan
collective forms of life.
442
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,360
Artists living together precariously
is a conscious attempt at a form of life.
443
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160
One could call that a form of life
444
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,400
that takes the fluid
or the transitional...
445
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,240
It institutionalizes
the transitional phase.
446
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,000
We were talking about our lack of bonds,
which we actually quite like.
447
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:25,720
I wanted jump to the way the New Right
interprets what it means to have no bonds.
448
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,240
It sees reviving ties to family
and homeland as the way to save humanity.
449
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,320
So they basically see a lack of bonds
as the plague of humanity.
450
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,400
How do you see that?
451
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Something like that quite crude notion
of homeland and family,
452
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,720
the idea of something you're born into
that is steadfast and undying,
453
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,160
is something that is meant to give us
the guidance we are all allegedly missing.
454
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,080
I think that is
a very, very disastrous interpretation
455
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,440
and a very disastrous diagnosis
that seems to cover a lot of things.
456
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,240
It's why the New Right
call themselves "identitarians."
457
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,840
I think it's important to realize
458
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,360
that a lack of relationships,
an indifference towards the world,
459
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,880
oneself and others is a real problem.
460
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520
But that cannot be correlated
461
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,240
to pre-existing, given and developed
462
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,480
identities and ideas of homeland.
463
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,800
My assumption is actually the opposite.
464
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,520
I believe that overemphasis,
or that emphasis on what is given,
465
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,520
the emphasis on homeland
and traditional family structures,
466
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,360
is something that has to do with the fact
467
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,360
that people feel powerless
in the circumstances they live in.
468
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,440
-That they can't shape them...
-Out of fear?
469
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,400
Yes, it's a...
470
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,760
-A realization of impracticability.
-Yes.
471
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120
That's just how we grew up.
472
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Politics are for politicians
and we, we do something else.
473
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,520
It's established,
like the division of labor.
474
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,840
If we're political at all
then we're the opposition.
475
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,000
That's not really true anymore.
We were the opposition.
476
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Now Pegida, the AfD, right-wingers
and identitarians are the opposition.
477
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,800
So now we're
the opposition to the opposition.
478
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,400
Or we...
479
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,960
Or we work hand-in-hand with politicians.
480
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,120
With the government.
481
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,160
A cabinet of horrors.
482
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680
But we want to be the opposition,
that's our role.
483
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Oh, guys, opposition aside.
Don't we want to do something?
484
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,480
Make political films or films in general?
485
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,400
I've seen quite a few political films
that were just political thrillers.
486
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,200
They were about big names
and big-time topics.
487
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,040
I'm definitely going to revolt.
The only question is when?
488
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Whether I'll do it before or after
the Nazis have seized power.
489
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,840
Somehow we have to create
entirely new structures.
490
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,720
To reinvent politics.
491
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Like reinventing the wheel.
492
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680
We have to start there,
by creating a new -ismus.
493
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,560
-One that doesn't exist yet.
-Yeah, and what should it be?
494
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,240
Empathism, perhaps.
495
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,160
What's that supposed to be? Rousseau?
496
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Should we start over from the beginning?
497
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,560
Empathy as a value
anchored in the legal framework.
498
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:54,040
Not before I've pushed through the right
to earn money with your eyes closed.
499
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Am I the only pragmatic person
in this room or what?
500
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,760
It's not like the refrigerator
fills up overnight on its own.
501
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,720
Well, in a certain sense it does do that.
502
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,360
Really?
How does a refrigerator fill itself?
503
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,840
Well, Katja managed to crack the lock
to an empty apartment in this building
504
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
and to use it as a nice Airbnb lodging.
505
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,480
-In order to feed the family.
-Let's move beyond the food issue.
506
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,480
We really should open up our eyes.
507
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,400
Do we really want to see this?
508
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,280
It is high treason
against the German people.
509
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,160
We categorically say no
to expanding immigration
510
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960
to allow third-country nationals.
511
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,200
It would overstrain
our country's integration capacity.
512
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,880
Lying press!
513
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Lying press!
514
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,320
Lying press!
515
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960
What does the German oak care
516
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,040
if a warthog rubs against it?
517
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,160
So you'll eventually only get
stale bread and water.
518
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,240
Because that's what is just for you.
519
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Deport!
520
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480
Deport! Deport!
521
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,360
-I'm going to make an announcement.
-Yeah?
522
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,520
Listen here, everyone.
523
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,760
Zip them!
524
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,800
As you know this is
our last Wednesday dinner.
525
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,760
We're going to be thrown out
in three days.
526
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Today we sit together,
then we party and then it's over and done.
527
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,640
So I propose
that we all raise our glasses again.
528
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,280
-To a new start.
-Did someone ring?
529
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,000
What's that?
530
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080
-What is that?
-An ulcer remedy.
531
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,480
Do you have an ulcer or do you mean us?
532
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Oh, come on.
533
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,400
-Hassan.
-That's a bit mean.
534
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,080
-What's he doing over there?
-Dishes.
535
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,880
-Boy, you guys suck.
-Hey, have a burger to add to your halo.
536
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,800
He's an actor, like we are.
537
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,000
But he fell out with all the directors
and his agency dumped him.
538
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,880
Yeah, and so we help him with his rent.
539
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160
He wants to work for it,
so he does dishes.
540
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,600
I saw you on TV
playing a Lebanese drug boss.
541
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,120
Na, dude, don't start.
542
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,280
I'm done with those roles.
Screw stereotypes!
543
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,440
I want to play normal people.
544
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,200
We work, we've been living here for years.
What the hell!
545
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:03,760
Then play yourself, write your dialogs.
I have a low-budget project.
546
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,680
-What do you say?
-With deferred payment?
547
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,880
-No, I said low-budget, not no-budget.
-Oh, okay.
548
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,760
Dog, don't get me wrong.
I have to do my job. I get a set rate.
549
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,800
-I got you.
-My hourly wage drops the longer we talk.
550
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,600
-Okay.
-That's straight talk.
551
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,720
The art crisis.
552
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,080
The real question is:
Does art always have to be unpaid?
553
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:40,040
It's more that we differentiate.
We say "no-budget" is art.
554
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,720
If something's paid it's commercial.
555
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,720
-It's either-or, that causes poverty.
-I make art and my punishment is no money.
556
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,480
For me making loads of dough
doing it would be a disaster.
557
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,160
I don't think he wants that either,
that's why he's here.
558
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,280
So you don't want to be whores,
but what if you love your clients?
559
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,040
If you made really awesome money
doing things that you love?
560
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,640
Paradise.
561
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Yeah, but the market is made up of people
and people desire things.
562
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,760
Do you think people really desire
what they see? Or that it...
563
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,680
-I'd say audiences, the masses...
-Bye.
564
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,360
Bye.
565
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,600
They watch what's shown to them.
566
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,600
The problem we're facing right now
is that critical art is what's in demand.
567
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,240
I don't need money, just burgers.
568
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,560
22/6, first take.
569
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,480
Clapper.
570
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,360
Go ahead.
571
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,360
-Hello, Mr. Hegemann.
-Hello.
572
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,080
Nice to see you.
We are now here...
573
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,240
What if a movie didn't create an illusion?
Would that not be cinema?
574
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,240
When making art in general
and when making political art
575
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,520
you have no choice
but to peek at what's behind the façade.
576
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,600
And no matter how bad it is
you have to concern yourself with it.
577
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,200
That would be a kind of enlightenment.
578
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600
But you have to be fully aware
that the audience
579
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,720
always feels it has been duped then,
580
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,400
because audiences go to the cinema
for that illusion.
581
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,280
But a film that employs
those mechanisms of illusion
582
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,120
to present a successful revolution
or a strong socially critical plot
583
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,760
without breaking the illusion
is perhaps not all that political.
584
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,480
-According to Brecht...
-Then it's more manipulative?
585
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,160
Yes.
586
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,880
It's probably without effect.
587
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,040
You watch it, are moved
and maybe you shed a tear and that's that.
588
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,040
Brecht said people
are lulled into the illusion
589
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,040
and no longer construe
the world as alterable.
590
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,280
You can only construe it is as alterable
when you free yourself from the illusion.
591
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,880
That doesn't exist anywhere else,
it only exists on this stage.
592
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:49,640
That a grown person can claim
they are the King of Denmark or similar.
593
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,520
And that is interesting,
594
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,320
because if you were to do that
in real life, if you were to dress up...
595
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
That great suit you're wearing
is borderline.
596
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,280
-It's almost a costume.
-Yeah.
597
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,840
-If you walk around in that...
-I get stared at walking around the city.
598
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,480
As Hamlet I'd probably be...
599
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,800
If I said I was Hamlet
I'd be put in a psychiatric ward.
600
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,400
Or if you were to put on a tie
and stick a moustache on
601
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,360
and claim to be a man.
602
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,840
Wearing a glued on moustache
in the theater is no problem at all.
603
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,480
People believe it, people accept
that kind of mixing of identities.
604
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,000
But mixing up life with a theater stage,
that can be really dangerous.
605
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,000
It is simply extremely liberating
when you can say what you think.
606
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,960
A colleague
who is your age recently told me
607
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,360
she didn't know anyone
among her acquaintances
608
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,840
who still says what they think.
609
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,680
People can't afford to do that anymore.
610
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,320
But what kind of a society,
what kind of life is it
611
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,080
when you only ever say what's suitable
in a given moment
612
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,440
and the other person does that too?
613
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,200
Then you live in a totally illusory world,
614
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,600
then the theater of social roles
is truly detached from the people.
615
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,080
-And that's why it's so liberating and...
-Then we're all zombies.
616
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:17,600
We can say that this stage is exemplary
because people here,
617
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,960
where others stay objective and cool
when they try to lodge a tiny objection,
618
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,520
people here yell,
that's why there's so much yelling.
619
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,520
That's because here people can use
their voice to express authentic thoughts.
620
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,120
And that truth and seriousness,
you really can't act as if it were so.
621
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,680
It seems you can only do that onstage,
where it's not forbidden to yell.
622
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,480
In my script it says
we ride Bobby Cars now.
623
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,480
If it say so, we have to do it.
624
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,640
I doubt it's conducive
to self-optimization.
625
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:09,360
-This is chic too.
-I think it makes you look old somehow.
626
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,200
-The fur, not you.
-Um-hm.
627
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,160
Yeah. Or maybe a two-piece outfit...
628
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,320
"This rapidly changing city
629
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,800
"that made its flaw of a lack of tradition
into a sign of modernity."
630
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480
That sounds like it could be from now.
631
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,400
But it was written
by Robert Walser in 1908.
632
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,440
"Makeshift existence suits Berlin,
633
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,800
"where people are eager for anything new,
quickly pass over yesterday
634
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,160
"and nothing stays as it was."
635
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,440
That's still true today too.
636
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,680
"To Robert Walser Berlin is a body,
a dream populated by Berlin's women.
637
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960
"He wants them all,
the naïve, voluptuous violent lady
638
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,240
"and the good little girl
from Kurfürstendamm."
639
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,760
-Button it up, right?
-Yeah.
640
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,080
"Berlin is a giant lady.
641
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,960
"Contemporaries continually stress
the analogy of Berlin and its women
642
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,640
"Robert Musil, Carl Zuckmayer...
643
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,400
"These quotes have
644
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,280
"a striking mix of incredulous adulation,
erotic attraction
645
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,160
"and restrained aggression that they use
to describe the city and its women."
646
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,200
This is still the 1920s.
647
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,160
"The spry and firm big-city girls
648
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,360
"with their insatiable open mouths
grow annoyed
649
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,880
"when my eyes settle too long
on their gliding shoulders
650
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,960
"and floating cheeks."
651
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,120
A certain Franz Hessel.
652
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,320
More "Berlin as woman."
653
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,120
"The 'rubble woman.'
654
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,640
"Youthful beauty contrasts
with the rubble she sorts.
655
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,520
"In the mid-1980s Helmut Newton shot
his 'boardinghouse photos' in Berlin."
656
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,760
That sounds good. "Fräulein Petra."
657
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,600
"Ten years later, Jürgen Teller.
658
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:05,800
"Cloudy puddles, rusty iron doors,
barred windows, dismal trees,
659
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,160
"garbage, construction cranes.
660
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,320
"Teller's Berlin photos
look like a hastily opened gift
661
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,680
"whose contents disappointed
and were cast aside.
662
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,960
"He photographs flawed female bodies
that don't fit any ideal:
663
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,800
"thighs adorned with red spots,
lips ripped open, elbows too raw."
664
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Heroin chic?
665
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,640
Me again.
666
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,360
"He reacts to the dematerialization
of existence with vulnerable bodies
667
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,360
"that tell stories.
668
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,160
"In Berlin he seeks phenomena
that open themselves up to narratives.
669
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,400
"The girl in the sweater
with Hölderlin in her pocket,
670
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,240
"as Harold Nicholsen described in 1929,
671
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080
"had become a junkie after 1961."
672
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,160
I'm the girl in the sweater.
I have Hölderlin in my pocket too.
673
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,200
The City and Its Bodies.
674
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,000
The City of Women.
675
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,520
No, that was another film.
676
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,880
And behind that façade
lurks an immense void.
677
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,600
-Hello, Ms. Allmendinger.
-Hello, Nola.
678
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,760
I interviewed students for my film
and what stood out to me
679
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,400
was most of them answered the questions
in relation to their own futures
680
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,840
but never
in the context of society as a whole.
681
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,040
And I was wondering
if it was due to my questioning technique
682
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,680
that it always went
in that individualistic direction.
683
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,080
People naturally start
talking about themselves.
684
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:37,760
We know that,
and so we have to resort to measures
685
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,120
to make them move on to talking
about society of their own accord,
686
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,720
or to get them to extrapolate
from themselves to their social circle
687
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,160
or to what they think
about society and the world.
688
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,960
So you can of course do that
by sitting in a bar for a long time
689
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,840
drinking beer with them
690
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,040
and you'll get that
in what we call a "narrative interview."
691
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,320
But you don't get
anything representative with that.
692
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,600
We start
with just what you were criticizing.
693
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,520
We want people focused on themselves,
694
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,880
so they notice how they feel.
695
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,360
And that they begin with themselves alone.
696
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,320
And we do that
by trying to shut down cognition.
697
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,280
They shouldn't think.
698
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,640
And then we give them these surfaces.
This is a kind of mat.
699
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,840
This is rough, this is glass,
this is corrugated cardboard.
700
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,760
-And we say...
-And it works. You immediately...
701
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,960
-You feel...
-We ask, "How does your life feel today?
702
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,960
-"Just tell me how life feels today."
-Yeah.
703
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,560
What the media tells them, what they read
in books is immediately gone.
704
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,320
Think about how your life feels.
705
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,360
You can do it differently.
I can have you smell this.
706
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,760
How does your life smell? Like this?
707
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,080
Or does life smell like this?
708
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,360
And voilà! You forget
what people have been telling you.
709
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,480
We don't want that.
We can read that in the paper.
710
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,880
We're interested in your opinion.
711
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,000
When we have them at a point
where they've attained inner peace
712
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,240
and have forgotten all else,
then we get started.
713
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,440
Then we ask, "How important is
a feeling of togetherness to you?
714
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,960
"How important is that to you?"
715
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,520
And then you can answer that question
on that very pure level.
716
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Those are preliminary questions,
then we move on to the real ones.
717
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,160
What do you desire
for the coming generation?
718
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,960
What do you wish to pass on to your kids?
What'd be your legacy?
719
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,120
We've already moved a step from a focus
on "me" to a focus on society.
720
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,880
And then
if we then take a third step and ask,
721
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,800
"And what do you think?
How will society actually be?"
722
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,000
Those steps get us
something utterly different
723
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,080
than going right to that third level does.
724
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,720
You're absolutely right, then people stay
in their own little lives.
725
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,480
If you were given carte blanche
what would you change in our society?
726
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,200
What we see is that income is important
and, of course, so is education.
727
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,720
There's no doubt about that.
728
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,320
But when we consider
which people have visions,
729
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,200
which people see life as an opportunity
to shape the things around them
730
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,880
and see life as worth shaping.
731
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,840
Increasingly those are people
with true circles of friends.
732
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,440
And not lots of friends
who are all from the same place,
733
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,000
as was once perhaps the case for me,
734
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:49,000
but friends from different countries
and from a diverse array of backgrounds.
735
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,320
People of varying ages
and sexual orientations.
736
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,960
And that can be facilitated.
737
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,520
That's something I think
society does less and less.
738
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:05,120
We've noticed that those various groups
are increasingly staying among themselves.
739
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,360
And so what I would recommend
is a mandatory social year.
740
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640
That there's a kind of mandatory exchange
741
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,200
with people in other countries.
742
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000
We have to introduce people,
young people, to that
743
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,680
so that we don't stay in one little spot
in Germany our entire lives.
744
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,160
So we want to open up and have to open up
to the wider world.
745
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,840
You can't force that on people,
they have to want it.
746
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,280
And the will to do that comes
with one-to-one contact, with experience.
747
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,600
People with a broader focus?
748
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,880
Pessimistic people say,
"The feeling of togetherness is lovely,
749
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,080
"but it's going down the drain."
750
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:52,120
Those are people who haven't experienced
a feeling of otherness.
751
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,760
-Yes.
-Yet you can create that.
752
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,400
You can do that
politically, socially with incentives
753
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,680
and by supporting that.
754
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,400
To create the possibility
of having those diverse social contacts.
755
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,000
Not by doing the opposite
with urban planning,
756
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,160
that is, keeping people among their own,
in their own schools.
757
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,440
Or, on the other hand,
by having schools that are so diverse
758
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,080
that there's no longer a common thread.
759
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,640
Thank you so much.
760
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,480
We're waiting for one little screw
then it's done.
761
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,240
It looks pretty good already.
762
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,360
Nola.
763
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,160
-How's your film coming along?
-Nearly done.
764
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,960
-I just need a really good final scene.
-Do you already have a resolution?
765
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,400
I'm not deluding myself.
766
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,440
My film won't change the world
or kick-start a revolt.
767
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,160
It's more of a stocktaking.
768
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,400
I asked questions and everyone
has to find their own answers.
769
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,480
I'm going.
770
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,560
A package for Pit.
771
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,760
So? Sexy lamp?
772
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,720
"You can't do a thing there anymore,"so they said
773
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,040
It's like a museum,all it does is look good
774
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,000
And that's why we're moving on
775
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,320
To shut down the next city
776
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,320
Ownership
777
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,960
Our ownership
778
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,480
Own
779
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,280
Own and everything
780
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,160
Ownership
781
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,120
Our own and everything
782
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,000
-Hello, Mr. Groys.
-Hello.
783
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,680
-Nice to see you.
-I'm glad you're here.
784
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,040
We've chosen
this very futuristic location.
785
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,960
Do you feel
like you're in the future here?
786
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,560
Yes, perhaps,
inasmuch as this place reminds me of
787
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,880
how I imagined the future
when I was a child.
788
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,720
When I read books and saw movies
789
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,480
this is more or less how I imagined it.
790
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,080
It seems to me that for a period,
791
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,600
in the 19th century,
at the start of the 20th century
792
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,240
and into the 1960s and 1970s,
793
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,440
people still thought
a lot about the future.
794
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,280
And people had the feeling
that they could shape the future.
795
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,600
That you could push a project through,
develop a vision, so to speak,
796
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,480
and then realize it.
797
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,000
There was this idea
of a sort of human omnipotence.
798
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,240
But now, more and more,
799
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,600
the future is becoming an event to us.
800
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,680
An event
801
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,960
that's new to us.
802
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,440
We're not really prepared.
803
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,280
It often comes as something unexpected.
804
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,200
And we have the feeling
that we should constantly adapt.
805
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,800
I believe that our strategic behavior
806
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,280
has increasingly become
a strategy of adapting to the future.
807
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,400
I sometimes call that "self-updating."
808
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,080
In one of your texts
809
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,880
you talk about film and say
810
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,720
film contains a paradox between
vita contemplativa and vita activa.
811
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,840
That screen heroes are hyperactive.
812
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,520
They shoot, they jump,
813
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,320
they have to achieve heroic aims,
814
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,040
and the viewer
automatically becomes passive
815
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,200
because he or she sits statically
in a chair in a theater seat.
816
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:49,360
How can you become capable of acting
in the face of that paradox?
817
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,080
Or how can you induce
the viewer to become active?
818
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,840
By getting the viewer
819
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:01,400
to internally identify
with the movie's heroic character.
820
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,600
What you described
as internal movement of thought?
821
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,720
-Not movement of thought.
-No?
822
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,080
No.
823
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,040
Neither the hero can think...
824
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,440
-The hero can't think?
-He can't think.
825
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,680
The hero has to act heroically.
826
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,800
And when you act heroically
you don't think.
827
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,680
And the viewer
isn't supposed to think either.
828
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,240
The thinking viewer
was a big mistake of Brecht's.
829
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,600
The viewer should identify...
830
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,000
The viewer should identify with the movie.
831
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,560
The viewer should identify with the hero.
832
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,680
And if that hero is a revolutionary
833
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,840
the viewer will try to adopt
the same position, the same attitude.
834
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,280
But via identification,
Brecht was anti-identification.
835
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,000
Yes, but I'd say via identification.
836
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,640
Ultimately...
837
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,360
you have to...
838
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,360
You become revolutionary
839
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:11,160
when you feel
like you're in a movie in real life.
840
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,880
-Yeah?
-That's the premise. You have to...
841
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,600
-Like you're in a movie in real life?
-Yes.
842
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,440
Or like you're in a novel.
843
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,680
The true revolutionary is romantic.
What does that mean?
844
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,320
It means life is like a novel to him.
845
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,160
If, just for a moment,
846
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,720
he crashed back down into reality,
so to speak,
847
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,760
then the revolution
and the romanticism is over.
848
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,840
That means
that only as long as I live in that...
849
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,280
Only as long as I live
in that totally artificial reality,
850
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,720
which is more real to me than any reality,
851
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,960
am I capable of inciting a revolution.
852
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,080
The moment that reality becomes
853
01:08:59,480 --> 01:09:02,160
a kind of quotidian misery...
854
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,680
When I perceive reality
as quotidian misery
855
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:11,000
-When I surrender to that misery.
-Yeah, then I just want to go to sleep.
856
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,720
That is, and everyone said this,
857
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,960
Mayakovsky and others said it.
858
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,800
The daily grind destroys revolution,
the misery of the everyday.
859
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,760
-But still...
-The boredom.
860
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,360
The boredom of life.
Life is fundamentally boring.
861
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,000
Fundamentally.
862
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,960
And you can't have
any kind of revolution against boredom.
863
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,240
Disgust and luxury.
864
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,680
Luxury and disgust, shell and content.
865
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,760
You throw concepts into the ring
that go beyond the world of shopping
866
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,440
and refer to capitalist society.
867
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,120
It's the bland, dull husk
that luxury leaves behind
868
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,000
when the expensive veneer is peeled away.
869
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,000
It's immanent, and thus wickedly genuine.
870
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,120
The luxury item in the glossy bag
turns into a monster.
871
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,800
Money is of no use.
872
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,640
An illness that can't be cured
with all the plastic surgery in the world.
873
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,480
Yes.
874
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,040
Ms. Schöne-Radunski.
875
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,320
Marvelous name, by the way.
876
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,960
Yes, you have huge potential.
877
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,280
Debunking the hype machine
behind the linking of fashion and art
878
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,640
in a clever and rebellious manner.
879
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,880
You really make me feel pissed off,
880
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,600
and like I genuinely don't want
to play along with this.
881
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,120
Which is all the more attractive.
What I can't have is all the sexier.
882
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,600
That type of thing
can escalate into an obsession.
883
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,200
You know what I think
of all the pseudo-rebellious young women
884
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,000
who walk in like sluts
and do totally conformist art.
885
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,000
That's where things come full circle.
886
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:59,040
Those drug-addict role models have to be
the faces of those luxury brands.
887
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,360
I could really imagine something with you,
marketing you.
888
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,480
We'll stage your art in public,
889
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,680
crash cultural events, disrupt,
we'll be all over the media.
890
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:14,200
No, you know what?
891
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,040
Screw that.
892
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,640
Right.
893
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,480
We'll shoot this without cuts, okay?
894
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,480
Right.
895
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,040
Just read them aloud one after the other.
896
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:21,800
What is this? Improvisation?
897
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,480
Please start.
898
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,520
I'll start.
899
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,960
I won't say anything about this cart
as a container for goods.
900
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,840
That would be too obvious.
901
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,360
It's about the value of things.
902
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,120
I just bought this thing for a euro.
903
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,240
Are you stupid? I had a plastic token.
904
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,600
Think about what it cost.
It must've cost 200 or 300 euros to make.
905
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,240
And who pays for that?
906
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,520
The supermarket?
907
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,680
Initially, yes, but the supermarket
has you, the shopper, pay for it.
908
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,200
Yeah, exactly. It's like a truck toll.
909
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,400
Huh.
910
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,640
-Huh?
-Or like paying taxes.
911
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,040
Yes, it's paid for by the general public.
912
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,680
Uh-huh, but who does it belong to?
The supermarket?
913
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,440
Me, because I put a euro in it.
914
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,400
No, you're the holder
but not the proprietor.
915
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,040
Come on,
let's not get into terminologies again.
916
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,480
Yeah, the thing about taxes
is much more interesting.
917
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,760
Huh? Why are taxes interesting?
918
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,320
He means the general public,
the general public needs such things.
919
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:51,120
The question remains whether this thing
is ours because we paid for it.
920
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,880
If it is ours then we want to have a say
in what happens to it.
921
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,760
Yes, that's right.
922
01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:03,520
Exactly, we'd better go get the drinks
with it or we won't get anywhere.
923
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,320
End of scene.
924
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,200
That's written here.
925
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,280
Welcome!
926
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,040
When do you have to go?
Where will you go?
927
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,000
I think they're putting
a fitness studio in here.
928
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,120
There can never be enough love.
929
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,800
We need loads of love in politics.
930
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:02,360
I was thinking about all the empty vaults
in cemeteries that no one looks after.
931
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,680
You could make hostels out of them.
932
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,680
That's funny,
I was thinking that yesterday.
933
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,080
Really?
934
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,000
I'd like to live in a public space.
935
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,600
-A public space?
-Yeah, the circle line.
936
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,040
A theoretician called that "depopulation."
I think it's a good term.
937
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,160
The zombie city!
938
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,600
If you have love inside you
because you know how it feels
939
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,600
theoretically you can...
940
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,280
But we can't afford romanticism anymore.
941
01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:35,640
I think we need empathetic politics,
that'd be key.
942
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,640
I recently saw a couple
having sex on a public subway.
943
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,760
That's private.
Sex in the subway is privatization.
944
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,160
But isn't that just the problem?
945
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,400
Like the Internet,
where everyone writes their beliefs
946
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,760
and makes a public space private.
947
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,360
It's not a belief it's sexual relief.
948
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,640
Can't anyone write
that kind of love poem now?
949
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,200
Lots of people think
people don't work anymore
950
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,360
but I think that people would...
951
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,720
Where's the incentive?
952
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:38,240
We're flying!
953
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,760
We're flying right out of here!
954
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,640
Bye!
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