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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:25,250 --> 00:01:27,750 Yeah, there's a little shade here. 2 00:01:57,750 --> 00:02:01,125 An architectural masterpiece of urban planning. 3 00:02:01,291 --> 00:02:03,291 Fresh from the drawing board: 4 00:02:03,458 --> 00:02:05,625 the theory of an urban district. 5 00:02:06,708 --> 00:02:09,708 Guess they're going to call this "Europacity." 6 00:02:09,875 --> 00:02:12,916 Europe is certainly deserving of that. 7 00:02:17,250 --> 00:02:19,166 Should I turn it up? 8 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,600 We don't have power anymore. 9 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:52,480 We need power. 10 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,680 NOTICE OF TERMINATION 11 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Things can't stay as they are. 12 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,760 Things aren't allowed to stay as they are. 13 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,520 Let's assume the three of us live here. 14 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,160 We live a makeshift life. 15 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Our bags are always half packed, we're on the go. 16 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,400 Freedom is important to us. We have no bonds and don't want any. 17 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,240 -Take care. Good luck! -Bye! 18 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,720 Hello! 19 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,560 -Hey. -Hi. 20 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,800 -Give that here. -Camera. 21 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Our goals are short term. 22 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,320 The main objective is to make ourselves happy. 23 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,120 The main objective is to make ourselves happy? 24 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,520 My film's about self-optimized individuals and collective consciousness. 25 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,240 I wanted to know what you're aspiring to at the moment. 26 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 What is your ideal aim? 27 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,280 You mean for my future? 28 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Yes, for your future but also more generally. 29 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,040 These things prove the arbitrariness of economic principles. 30 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,000 These shoes were new and had a price. 31 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,760 They're still new, but the price is now a fraction of what it was. 32 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 All the same, no one wants them. 33 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,160 Is this all without value? 34 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,120 When does it have a value? Right now it's clearly superfluous. 35 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,440 This is broken and worthless now. 36 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,760 I put it back together and it's Jeff Koons' "Balloon Dog." 37 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,040 It was once worth 10,000 dollars. 38 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,720 -Excuse me? -Yes? 39 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,720 Can I give you 10,000 dollars for this? 40 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,160 No, you don't need to pay. You can just have it. 41 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,560 -Thank you. -You're welcome. 42 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Thanks. 43 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,680 -Hello, Mr. Felsch. -Hello. 44 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,960 Mr. Felsch I read your book. It inspired me to do the film I'm making. 45 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,880 I was wondering where we are today. Have we entered a "long winter of theory"? 46 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Because that combination 47 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:57,640 of theory, reading and political revolt no longer exists in that way. 48 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Firstly, we have an entirely different reading culture. 49 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,320 You can really see that at universities. 50 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,480 -You work at a university. -I do, that's right. 51 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,360 I teach cultural studies at Humboldt University. 52 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,000 I believe the people who were part of the 1968 generation 53 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,760 were, above all else, gifted readers. 54 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,720 As has been noted repeatedly that generation itself 55 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,000 didn't really produce very many high-level theoreticians. 56 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,880 -They... -That's interesting. 57 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,960 As if one can't read and write at the same time. 58 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,840 That's sort of the point I wanted to make. 59 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Lots of figures from the 1968 political scene 60 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,960 read a whole lot and got books and texts in circulation. 61 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,880 Like the founders of little left-wing publishing houses, such as Merve. 62 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,800 When you look around universities today 63 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 it's actually virtually the reverse. 64 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,520 That is, we are all constantly writing something. 65 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:03,880 People write a lot more during their studies. 66 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,680 Cyberculture has greatly reduced inhibitions about producing writing. 67 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,440 Without having to go to any fuss you can get publicity in some form. 68 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,280 There's probably a lot more resistance with a typewriter. 69 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,880 With a typewriter what you've written is only on paper, 70 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,960 no one reads it. 71 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,200 There are a lot more ways to get publicity today. 72 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Peer-to-peer culture encourages writing. It's very empowering. 73 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,120 You have to wonder if all that's written is getting read. 74 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,720 Yes, mathematically that can't be. 75 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,320 So how is it as a historian? 76 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Can you research the future as well? 77 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:51,040 -Is the future relevant to an historian? -I think that's a pretty important point. 78 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:54,360 The long summer of theory, 79 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,000 the reason it was so long and so hot 80 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,720 was because they were theories that ventured to predict the future. 81 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,040 The blueprint for that was Marxism 82 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,160 or the philosophy of history, which goes back roughly to Hegel. 83 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,720 Theories that don't just describe things in the now 84 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,640 but that also make a claim to know how history will develop going forward 85 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,320 and that always project towards some objective at the end of history. 86 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 I don't think we can go back 87 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,320 to those grand, optimistic 88 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,440 teleological narratives 89 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,840 that tell us what direction things are heading in, 90 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,120 what direction history is moving, it's meaning. 91 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Yet, at the same time, I see, 92 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,680 in and outside of universities, things like the Anthropocene discussion. 93 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,520 They show there's obviously a desire for that again. 94 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:55,480 That after these 20 years of postmodernism 95 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,840 there's a desire to return to something, 96 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,520 to develop a theory of history 97 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:07,280 that can somehow or other give us a sense of how the story will go on. 98 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,480 I think it's clear that has resurfaced. 99 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,280 I'll sleep with you. 100 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Yes, I'll sleep with you. 101 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,040 Now that we've been married for a day. 102 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,000 Yesterday, 103 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,040 on April 29, 1945, we got married. 104 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,200 My name is now "Eva Hitler." 105 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,840 My hair has turned brown in the bunker. 106 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,440 Like my old name. 107 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,600 "Eva Braun." 108 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,960 Braun. You have to roll the R, that's what they did back then. 109 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,760 What kind of a text is it anyway? 110 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,600 I'm no longer pretty. 111 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,880 My powder boxes are empty. 112 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,880 My silk stockings have runs. 113 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,200 Runs. 114 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,280 And tomorrow... 115 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Tomorrow we'll all be dead. 116 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,880 But I'm going to fuck you before then. 117 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,080 I think that's good. 118 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Yeah, I reinterpreted the text. No one can perform this crap. 119 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,240 -And then? -"And then" what? 120 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,280 What happened then? 121 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Then another girl came and she did it. 122 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Bye-bye German Film Award. 123 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:09,040 -You'd have given him a blow job? -I'd do anything for a lead role. 124 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,520 Besides, let's be honest. 125 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:17,080 What's the deal with humanizing a monster? Am I supposed to empathize with Eva Braun? 126 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,080 "Sentimental drama in the Führer's bunker." 127 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Nazis had human emotions too. 128 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,520 Justification of the past is the new genre with "good Nazis." 129 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,840 Justification of the past? 130 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,640 I have a different theory 131 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,360 I think those films are so well-loved because of the female parts. 132 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Back then women were still beautiful, seductive, 133 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,480 and, most importantly, submissive. 134 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,120 You know, that brings back memories of the good old days, 135 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,120 when a man was still a man and a woman was still a woman. 136 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Frau. 137 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,440 -Frau! -The woman from bygone days. 138 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,120 At least your part had a name. 139 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,440 Recent movies hardly ever pass the Bechdel test. 140 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,200 -What test? -The Bechdel test. 141 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,040 It indicates if a film is misogynistic. 142 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,280 A film isn't that if it has at least two female parts. 143 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,480 And they have to talk to each other about a topic besides men. 144 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,160 -What else do you want to talk about? -Yeah, that's right. 145 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,160 -What else would we talk about? -That's about it, really. 146 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,800 This isn't going to be misogynistic, but it won't be very kind to men either. 147 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Okay, read it. 148 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,800 "Dear, etc... I find your movie title, 149 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,160 "The Long Journey from Collective Consciousness 150 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,120 "to Self-Optimized Individual - We become I..." 151 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,640 -Cumbersome? -"Romantic. 152 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,840 "You swoon over the past. 153 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,440 "Nostalgia oozes forth like lukewarm gravy..." 154 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,000 If your theory is labeled "romantic" you can take it to an emotional level. 155 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,680 You have to do that in every screenplay. It's about identification. 156 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,120 This is a total Hollywood independent film expert speaking, right? 157 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 I don't want a character to identify with. 158 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,520 Why not? 159 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,000 It imposes foreign emotions on you and I don't want to be manipulated. 160 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,000 -I mean I'm really hungry. -Yes, I'll be there in a sec. 161 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,320 What kind of a character is Detlef? 162 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Detlef has always been here in this apartment. 163 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,080 Yeah, when we moved in he always slept in the bathtub. 164 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,240 -Until we got him the sofa. -Thanks. 165 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Detlef has seen the entire recent past. 166 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,680 He basically holds 30 years of history inside him and now he mostly keeps silent. 167 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,360 -So the silent past? -That's enough for me. 168 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,120 I don't want to sit here later and have done nothing. 169 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,360 Can you convey that to the viewer? 170 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,320 It's not entertainment. Nola is making a political film. 171 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,680 -And it's about freedom. -Freedom sounds a bit romantic, right? 172 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,840 -Replenishments. -Finally! 173 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Freedom isn't romantic, it's existential. 174 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,160 We'll notice that when it's gone. 175 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Where are your doors? 176 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,440 -They were in bad need of refurbishment. -Yeah, that's right. 177 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,400 Yes, they urgently had to be fitted with gilded doorknobs. 178 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,760 -The hypothesis is: What should we do? -That's no hypothesis. 179 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,400 Sure, we just have to scream it out: "What should we do?!" 180 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,240 That's all been done. 181 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,640 It's how Baader and Meinhof sat at the table planning abductions. 182 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,760 Nonsense! First they set fire to a department store in Frankfurt. 183 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,000 Yeah, but we're talking about not reenacting the past. 184 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Not reenacting it but processing it. 185 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,120 Or as inspiration. 186 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,160 But still the question remains: 187 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,360 What to do? 188 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,840 -Hi. -Hi. 189 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,680 -Hi. -Hey. 190 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Is something going on with you guys? 191 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,480 Nothing at all is going on. 192 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Work, earning a living, 193 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,960 a livelihood. 194 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,640 And we're not any further ahead. 195 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,760 The low-wage sector is still primarily occupied by women. 196 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,600 More and more so. 197 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,680 A growing number of women are working in low-wage jobs 198 00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:04,120 like caregiving, 199 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,760 cleaning. 200 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,360 And then the neoliberal blather 201 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,800 about how emancipating it is when a woman can provide for herself. 202 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 She has to provide for herself. 203 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,000 All that does is provide capitalism with cheap labor. 204 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,240 And women end up doing the same jobs as always. 205 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,000 I toil for my independence. That's a contradiction in terms. 206 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,040 You know what, Nola, 207 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,400 sometimes I'd like to have it like that too. 208 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Someone who helps me put my coat on, who holds the door open for me 209 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,440 or who escorts me to the table. 210 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,000 And who reads the menu to you. 211 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,600 An older man who fumbles to get his reading glasses out. Oh, Katja! 212 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,440 You know what I mean. 213 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,120 But, you know, as long as the tourists come 214 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,600 and pay their 25 euros a head per night 215 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,840 and are happy with that everything's dandy. 216 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,800 At least someone invented the washing machine. 217 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,520 Yeah, what are we complaining about? 218 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,320 -I think we should go in for the audio. -Sounds good. 219 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Can you explain the term "state feminism" to me? 220 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,560 That's the title of our book and it's actually meant a bit ironically. 221 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,560 About ten years ago it was a surprise 222 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,160 to see established politicians turn feminist. 223 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,680 They gave passionate speeches about the importance of women's independence. 224 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,720 Then came a series of reforms. 225 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,280 The parental allowance was introduced, 226 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,880 day care was expanded and "mini-jobs" were introduced. 227 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,600 Ultimately it was clear that the main aim of that reform 228 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,160 was to get well-educated women to have lots of kids 229 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,040 and to get them to return to work as quickly as possible after childbirth. 230 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,040 Once you realized that it's primarily women 231 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,640 who take care of small children and old people 232 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,760 it turned out that it was ultimately the intensification of a double burden. 233 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,080 As far as we know that has never been the aim of a feminist movement. 234 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,520 We don't know anybody who wants that. 235 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960 So the burden on women has actually increased 236 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:29,320 thanks to prevailing ideas of motherhood? 237 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,080 Yes. 238 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,800 But you can't view that independently 239 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,440 from the other laws that have changed as well. 240 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,520 The Hartz IV reforms to unemployment and social welfare were implemented, 241 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,280 so were mini-jobs and part-time jobs. 242 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,040 And all those things led to 243 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,760 a lot more women being in employment. 244 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,240 The labor force participation rate for women 245 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,080 has increased from 2003 to today 246 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,600 to over 70 percent. 247 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,800 And back then it was 55 percent. 248 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,000 That's something that makes you wonder: 249 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,320 How did that happen? 250 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,640 Why has the state discovered feminism all of a sudden 251 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,680 and why do we now have so many women with children who are working? 252 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,400 So it's really about creating a more productive society, 253 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,880 about incentives to make society more productive. 254 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,960 -That's how I see it. -And to preserve the capitalist system. 255 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240 -Actually. -Yes, to preserve it... 256 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,080 -Or even to... -To optimize it. 257 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,200 Yes, to optimize it. 258 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:47,160 So that... Yes, you really can say that. What does it mean for society? 259 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Well-educated women who are then supposed to be... 260 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:57,040 After having spent all of 20 years going to school and studying 261 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,560 they're supposed to put all their effort into raising one or two children? 262 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,360 As far as the state's concerned that's a huge waste, 263 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,840 from a capitalist standpoint it is as well. 264 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,640 Basically those women are supposed to continue 265 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,800 to make their productivity available to the market. 266 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Nowadays most women have to work. Lots of women had to do that before too. 267 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,760 But in this day and age there are more demands. 268 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Women are expected to have immensely successful careers 269 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,880 while at the same time, and we haven`t yet talked about this, 270 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,320 lofty demands are being put on mothers and fathers. 271 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,680 You can't just raise a kid nowadays, 272 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,360 they have to be very gifted and you have to foster 273 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,400 your children as much as possible. 274 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,600 I insist upon my right to laziness. 275 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Like other people insist upon their right to work. 276 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,480 I've always been a flop on the job market. 277 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,040 Whatever. 278 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,840 I had a job as a corpse in the theater. 279 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,800 In this play that was like three hours long. 280 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,440 I died ten minutes into it. 281 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,960 I lay there, me with my weak bladder. 282 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,080 I couldn't hold it anymore after 40 minutes. 283 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,240 And I had to decide if I was going to pee onstage or go to the toilet. 284 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,560 I chose the toilet. 285 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,320 I got up, went to the toilet, 286 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,520 came back 287 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,840 and lay down in the same place. 288 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,200 No one really noticed. 289 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,280 But the director totally blew his top. 290 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,680 He was so hot-tempered he fired me on the spot. 291 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,200 It's absurd, as if anyone really believed you were dead. 292 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:00,680 -Yeah! -That's an idea. 293 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Theater with real corpses. 294 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Maybe with volunteers who want to live out their final rush. 295 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,560 Yeah, like GG Allin. 296 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,440 He died in front of his audience. He did it. 297 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,200 Even as a corpse in a theater 298 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,680 you still have no right to laziness. 299 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,800 Come on. 300 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,600 You coming? 301 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:53,200 Hey, come on! 302 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,280 That's good. One, two... 303 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,120 three! 304 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,760 Towards me. That's right. 305 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,800 We're nearly done. 306 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:38,320 Oh yeah, this is... 307 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,520 I don't even know what his name is. 308 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,560 -Time for a Sexy Lamp Test. -Oh, you're mean! 309 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,720 We'll take the part out of the script and replace it with a decorative lamp. 310 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800 If the story doesn't change, it's a fail. 311 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Two against one, so... 312 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400 Man, you guys are so mean! 313 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,600 The guy is really nice, and a great actor to boot. 314 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,040 -Hello. -Hello. 315 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,760 Hi. Nice lamp. 316 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,840 -Can we borrow your bike again? -Yeah. 317 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,560 -Do the Chinese guys still need it? -The Chinese guys don't need a bike. 318 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,960 Yes, you can take it. 319 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,400 -Have you found a new apartment? -Mom says we won't with all the dogs. 320 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,480 -What'll you do then? -Grandma has a yard. 321 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,880 Do we know where we're going to move yet? 322 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,440 "My husband is my home." That's what my grandma said. 323 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,560 I mean, what are we doing here anyway? I mean in the here and now. 324 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:50,160 Are we different or are the times different? 325 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,640 We're sitting at a dumb hand-me-down table with all our old crap. 326 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,000 And all we own is the cup in our hands. 327 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560 Wouldn't the situation be totally different 328 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,360 if we were sitting in a cozy little garden? 329 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,680 Like in the community garden Bornholm II? 330 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520 We're different people in this situation. 331 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160 We'd read a Friedrich Kittler text totally differently. 332 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160 We may even interpret it differently, 333 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,800 take the opposing position, not an affirmative one. 334 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,160 I doubt I'd read it at all. These brats would have me at my wit's end. 335 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,880 The situation could be totally different. 336 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,880 Imagine it, we're sitting in the salon 337 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,280 of a 200-square-meter pre-WWII apartment on Pariser Strasse. 338 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680 The nanny has already put the brats to bed. 339 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,160 Or we didn't have any to begin with. Right? You not here at all! 340 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Wow! I never thought your imagination was so bourgeois. 341 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,960 To be honest I find it pretty strenuous to keep my bearing all day. 342 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 I mean, bearing in what sense? 343 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960 -Towards what? -I imagine it being quite fun. 344 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,760 You know, when you really get into it and get a feel for it. 345 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,760 But then it'd be the only life you have. 346 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,240 Thank you. 347 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,240 We could do something totally normal. 348 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Yes. 349 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,480 An occupation we never would've chosen of our own free will. 350 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,280 Right, this is for you. You can read through it. 351 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,720 Well, if I had to sit here at my desk every day 352 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,960 I think I'd try to find happiness in the evenings and on weekends. 353 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,000 -I think that makes lots of things easier. -I couldn't do it. 354 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,720 But if I had to 355 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,960 maybe then I could. 356 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000 Maybe you have to have to to be able to. 357 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,200 And then it makes sense to rebel against all this crap. 358 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,200 You're right about that, everything here really is total crap. 359 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,480 We're going on about parallel worlds. We could do this forever. 360 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,120 Yet it doesn't get us any further along, and we never go far enough. 361 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,840 A coffee picker in Bali, a seamstress in Bangladesh, 362 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,600 we jump from one extreme to the other. 363 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,960 The more extreme we get the more we neutralize ourselves. 364 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,400 Neutralize? 365 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Yeah. 366 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,120 We always revert to being ourselves. 367 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,240 Yeah. 368 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Damn! 369 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,640 Yeah, you have to position yourself. 370 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160 To find a position. 371 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400 But within or without? 372 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,280 Do I think from the inside out or do I see myself from the outside? 373 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,320 I would actually rather do the latter. 374 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520 But I fear there is no "outside" anymore. 375 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,040 The individual has greedily absorbed that within. 376 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680 But what you dream of, or what you mean, 377 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360 is that everyone is outside. 378 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,040 That no one follows any rules or any laws anymore. 379 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,280 And that brings us back to the Red Army Faction. 380 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,040 No, that's baloney. 381 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,400 Even if I were allowed to break laws I don't know which laws I'd want to break, 382 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560 let alone demolish. 383 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,240 I can think of one or two things that one could demolish. 384 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,680 Yes, you as an individualist. 385 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,440 But, in all honesty, 386 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,560 we're all totally sedated 387 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680 and stupefied with little gifts and rewards. 388 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,560 And no one voluntarily demolishes their little reward. 389 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,560 That's a primal instinct. 390 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Sure, but I'm not even that far along. It's not relevant to me. 391 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,160 Right now I don't have any possessions that I could defend. 392 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,000 All right then, I'll explain the entry area to you now. 393 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,000 As you can see it's a prestigious space, gloriously awash in light. 394 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,080 You could call this room the centerpiece of the apartment. 395 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,880 Look how the wonderful features of this old structure are brought to bear. 396 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,440 -Cool, eh? -That's right, I want to hear a "whoop!" 397 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,400 Yes, now I'll show you the bathroom units. 398 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,480 You can have them converted and made into a designer bath and sanitary facilities. 399 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,520 -Hello, Ms. Jaeggi. -Hello, Nola. 400 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,320 How do you define the term "forms of life"? 401 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,800 I'll tell you the formula and then explain it. 402 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,480 They are something akin to inert bundles or ensembles of social practices. 403 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,040 That alludes to some things that are key to the term "forms of life." 404 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,840 One is that they are social practices, 405 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,120 things that people do and that they do with certain behavioral patterns 406 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,320 that are social in that they are socially shaped and defined. 407 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:46,480 When discussing forms of life people argue about what practices to include. 408 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,960 Is a family still a family if the members no longer talk or eat dinner together? 409 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,320 -Lots of fighting. -Interesting. 410 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,640 Is it a city if it no longer has public places 411 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:03,160 where people can meet up without making a date and without paying? 412 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,240 You could say that contradicts the idea of a city, 413 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,680 or of how we construe the city as a form of life if such spots are gone. 414 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,800 In the film we dream ourselves away into other scenarios. 415 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,000 So we're actually a little bit weary of our existing form of life, 416 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000 or of existence in general. 417 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,520 So we dream about how it would be if we had a bourgeois family 418 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,440 or if we had jobs that didn't allow us so much time to think, 419 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200 jobs that are a lot more structured. 420 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520 But in the end we realize 421 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,720 no matter where we dream ourselves away to we always revert back to ourselves. 422 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,240 What do you think about that? 423 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640 I mean, would that change me? 424 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,480 Or, what does a form of life do with me, as an individual? 425 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,320 The idea that I as an individual am here and the form or life is here, 426 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,560 like it's some kind of armor that you slip into, 427 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,720 or as if your form or life were some kind of a cabin that you walk into 428 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,880 but can also walk back out of and be yourself. 429 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,840 Yes, that is not the notion that I... 430 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,040 That isn't the notion that guides me or that... 431 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,560 I don't assume that, I basically assume that you... 432 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:25,960 I assume that getting out of that socially determined behavioral... 433 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,960 What I mean is that you can't escape interpretations 434 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,040 of how you see your life and what you are. 435 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,240 That is, you can't just step out of them. 436 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,760 When you step out of them you're still referring back to them. 437 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,080 -A good way to explain that may be... -There is no neutral space? 438 00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,800 -Exactly. -I'm always in a form of life. 439 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,720 I can't step out into a vacuum with no form of life 440 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,680 and step into a new one. 441 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,960 But you can still consciously plan collective forms of life. 442 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:04,360 Artists living together precariously is a conscious attempt at a form of life. 443 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160 One could call that a form of life 444 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,400 that takes the fluid or the transitional... 445 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,240 It institutionalizes the transitional phase. 446 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,000 We were talking about our lack of bonds, which we actually quite like. 447 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:25,720 I wanted jump to the way the New Right interprets what it means to have no bonds. 448 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:31,240 It sees reviving ties to family and homeland as the way to save humanity. 449 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,320 So they basically see a lack of bonds as the plague of humanity. 450 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,400 How do you see that? 451 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,360 Something like that quite crude notion of homeland and family, 452 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,720 the idea of something you're born into that is steadfast and undying, 453 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,160 is something that is meant to give us the guidance we are all allegedly missing. 454 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,080 I think that is a very, very disastrous interpretation 455 00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,440 and a very disastrous diagnosis that seems to cover a lot of things. 456 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,240 It's why the New Right call themselves "identitarians." 457 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,840 I think it's important to realize 458 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,360 that a lack of relationships, an indifference towards the world, 459 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,880 oneself and others is a real problem. 460 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,520 But that cannot be correlated 461 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,240 to pre-existing, given and developed 462 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,480 identities and ideas of homeland. 463 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,800 My assumption is actually the opposite. 464 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,520 I believe that overemphasis, or that emphasis on what is given, 465 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,520 the emphasis on homeland and traditional family structures, 466 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,360 is something that has to do with the fact 467 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,360 that people feel powerless in the circumstances they live in. 468 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,440 -That they can't shape them... -Out of fear? 469 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,400 Yes, it's a... 470 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,760 -A realization of impracticability. -Yes. 471 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,120 That's just how we grew up. 472 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,200 Politics are for politicians and we, we do something else. 473 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,520 It's established, like the division of labor. 474 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,840 If we're political at all then we're the opposition. 475 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,000 That's not really true anymore. We were the opposition. 476 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:26,640 Now Pegida, the AfD, right-wingers and identitarians are the opposition. 477 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,800 So now we're the opposition to the opposition. 478 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,400 Or we... 479 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,960 Or we work hand-in-hand with politicians. 480 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,120 With the government. 481 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,160 A cabinet of horrors. 482 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680 But we want to be the opposition, that's our role. 483 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,400 Oh, guys, opposition aside. Don't we want to do something? 484 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,480 Make political films or films in general? 485 00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,400 I've seen quite a few political films that were just political thrillers. 486 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,200 They were about big names and big-time topics. 487 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,040 I'm definitely going to revolt. The only question is when? 488 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,440 Whether I'll do it before or after the Nazis have seized power. 489 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,840 Somehow we have to create entirely new structures. 490 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,720 To reinvent politics. 491 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480 Like reinventing the wheel. 492 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,680 We have to start there, by creating a new -ismus. 493 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,560 -One that doesn't exist yet. -Yeah, and what should it be? 494 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,240 Empathism, perhaps. 495 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,160 What's that supposed to be? Rousseau? 496 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,000 Should we start over from the beginning? 497 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,560 Empathy as a value anchored in the legal framework. 498 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:54,040 Not before I've pushed through the right to earn money with your eyes closed. 499 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,880 Am I the only pragmatic person in this room or what? 500 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,760 It's not like the refrigerator fills up overnight on its own. 501 00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,720 Well, in a certain sense it does do that. 502 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,360 Really? How does a refrigerator fill itself? 503 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,840 Well, Katja managed to crack the lock to an empty apartment in this building 504 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680 and to use it as a nice Airbnb lodging. 505 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,480 -In order to feed the family. -Let's move beyond the food issue. 506 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,480 We really should open up our eyes. 507 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,400 Do we really want to see this? 508 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,280 It is high treason against the German people. 509 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,160 We categorically say no to expanding immigration 510 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960 to allow third-country nationals. 511 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,200 It would overstrain our country's integration capacity. 512 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,880 Lying press! 513 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,560 Lying press! 514 00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,320 Lying press! 515 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,960 What does the German oak care 516 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,040 if a warthog rubs against it? 517 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,160 So you'll eventually only get stale bread and water. 518 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,240 Because that's what is just for you. 519 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,960 Deport! 520 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480 Deport! Deport! 521 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,360 -I'm going to make an announcement. -Yeah? 522 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,520 Listen here, everyone. 523 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,760 Zip them! 524 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,800 As you know this is our last Wednesday dinner. 525 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,760 We're going to be thrown out in three days. 526 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Today we sit together, then we party and then it's over and done. 527 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,640 So I propose that we all raise our glasses again. 528 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,280 -To a new start. -Did someone ring? 529 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,000 What's that? 530 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,080 -What is that? -An ulcer remedy. 531 00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,480 Do you have an ulcer or do you mean us? 532 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,040 Oh, come on. 533 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,400 -Hassan. -That's a bit mean. 534 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,080 -What's he doing over there? -Dishes. 535 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:22,880 -Boy, you guys suck. -Hey, have a burger to add to your halo. 536 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,800 He's an actor, like we are. 537 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,000 But he fell out with all the directors and his agency dumped him. 538 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,880 Yeah, and so we help him with his rent. 539 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,160 He wants to work for it, so he does dishes. 540 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,600 I saw you on TV playing a Lebanese drug boss. 541 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,120 Na, dude, don't start. 542 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,280 I'm done with those roles. Screw stereotypes! 543 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,440 I want to play normal people. 544 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,200 We work, we've been living here for years. What the hell! 545 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:03,760 Then play yourself, write your dialogs. I have a low-budget project. 546 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,680 -What do you say? -With deferred payment? 547 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,880 -No, I said low-budget, not no-budget. -Oh, okay. 548 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,760 Dog, don't get me wrong. I have to do my job. I get a set rate. 549 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,800 -I got you. -My hourly wage drops the longer we talk. 550 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,600 -Okay. -That's straight talk. 551 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,720 The art crisis. 552 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,080 The real question is: Does art always have to be unpaid? 553 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:40,040 It's more that we differentiate. We say "no-budget" is art. 554 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,720 If something's paid it's commercial. 555 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,720 -It's either-or, that causes poverty. -I make art and my punishment is no money. 556 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,480 For me making loads of dough doing it would be a disaster. 557 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,160 I don't think he wants that either, that's why he's here. 558 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,280 So you don't want to be whores, but what if you love your clients? 559 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,040 If you made really awesome money doing things that you love? 560 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,640 Paradise. 561 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,520 Yeah, but the market is made up of people and people desire things. 562 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,760 Do you think people really desire what they see? Or that it... 563 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,680 -I'd say audiences, the masses... -Bye. 564 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,360 Bye. 565 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,600 They watch what's shown to them. 566 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,600 The problem we're facing right now is that critical art is what's in demand. 567 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,240 I don't need money, just burgers. 568 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,560 22/6, first take. 569 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,480 Clapper. 570 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,360 Go ahead. 571 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,360 -Hello, Mr. Hegemann. -Hello. 572 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,080 Nice to see you. We are now here... 573 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,240 What if a movie didn't create an illusion? Would that not be cinema? 574 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,240 When making art in general and when making political art 575 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,520 you have no choice but to peek at what's behind the façade. 576 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,600 And no matter how bad it is you have to concern yourself with it. 577 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,200 That would be a kind of enlightenment. 578 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600 But you have to be fully aware that the audience 579 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,720 always feels it has been duped then, 580 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,400 because audiences go to the cinema for that illusion. 581 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,280 But a film that employs those mechanisms of illusion 582 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,120 to present a successful revolution or a strong socially critical plot 583 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,760 without breaking the illusion is perhaps not all that political. 584 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,480 -According to Brecht... -Then it's more manipulative? 585 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,160 Yes. 586 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,880 It's probably without effect. 587 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,040 You watch it, are moved and maybe you shed a tear and that's that. 588 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,040 Brecht said people are lulled into the illusion 589 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,040 and no longer construe the world as alterable. 590 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,280 You can only construe it is as alterable when you free yourself from the illusion. 591 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,880 That doesn't exist anywhere else, it only exists on this stage. 592 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:49,640 That a grown person can claim they are the King of Denmark or similar. 593 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,520 And that is interesting, 594 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,320 because if you were to do that in real life, if you were to dress up... 595 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040 That great suit you're wearing is borderline. 596 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,280 -It's almost a costume. -Yeah. 597 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,840 -If you walk around in that... -I get stared at walking around the city. 598 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,480 As Hamlet I'd probably be... 599 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,800 If I said I was Hamlet I'd be put in a psychiatric ward. 600 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,400 Or if you were to put on a tie and stick a moustache on 601 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,360 and claim to be a man. 602 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,840 Wearing a glued on moustache in the theater is no problem at all. 603 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,480 People believe it, people accept that kind of mixing of identities. 604 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,000 But mixing up life with a theater stage, that can be really dangerous. 605 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,000 It is simply extremely liberating when you can say what you think. 606 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,960 A colleague who is your age recently told me 607 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,360 she didn't know anyone among her acquaintances 608 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,840 who still says what they think. 609 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,680 People can't afford to do that anymore. 610 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,320 But what kind of a society, what kind of life is it 611 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,080 when you only ever say what's suitable in a given moment 612 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,440 and the other person does that too? 613 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,200 Then you live in a totally illusory world, 614 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:08,600 then the theater of social roles is truly detached from the people. 615 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,080 -And that's why it's so liberating and... -Then we're all zombies. 616 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:17,600 We can say that this stage is exemplary because people here, 617 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:22,960 where others stay objective and cool when they try to lodge a tiny objection, 618 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,520 people here yell, that's why there's so much yelling. 619 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:32,520 That's because here people can use their voice to express authentic thoughts. 620 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:38,120 And that truth and seriousness, you really can't act as if it were so. 621 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,680 It seems you can only do that onstage, where it's not forbidden to yell. 622 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,480 In my script it says we ride Bobby Cars now. 623 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,480 If it say so, we have to do it. 624 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,640 I doubt it's conducive to self-optimization. 625 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:09,360 -This is chic too. -I think it makes you look old somehow. 626 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,200 -The fur, not you. -Um-hm. 627 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,160 Yeah. Or maybe a two-piece outfit... 628 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,320 "This rapidly changing city 629 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,800 "that made its flaw of a lack of tradition into a sign of modernity." 630 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,480 That sounds like it could be from now. 631 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,400 But it was written by Robert Walser in 1908. 632 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,440 "Makeshift existence suits Berlin, 633 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,800 "where people are eager for anything new, quickly pass over yesterday 634 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,160 "and nothing stays as it was." 635 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,440 That's still true today too. 636 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,680 "To Robert Walser Berlin is a body, a dream populated by Berlin's women. 637 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,960 "He wants them all, the naïve, voluptuous violent lady 638 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,240 "and the good little girl from Kurfürstendamm." 639 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,760 -Button it up, right? -Yeah. 640 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,080 "Berlin is a giant lady. 641 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,960 "Contemporaries continually stress the analogy of Berlin and its women 642 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,640 "Robert Musil, Carl Zuckmayer... 643 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,400 "These quotes have 644 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,280 "a striking mix of incredulous adulation, erotic attraction 645 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,160 "and restrained aggression that they use to describe the city and its women." 646 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,200 This is still the 1920s. 647 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,160 "The spry and firm big-city girls 648 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,360 "with their insatiable open mouths grow annoyed 649 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,880 "when my eyes settle too long on their gliding shoulders 650 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,960 "and floating cheeks." 651 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,120 A certain Franz Hessel. 652 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,320 More "Berlin as woman." 653 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,120 "The 'rubble woman.' 654 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,640 "Youthful beauty contrasts with the rubble she sorts. 655 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,520 "In the mid-1980s Helmut Newton shot his 'boardinghouse photos' in Berlin." 656 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,760 That sounds good. "Fräulein Petra." 657 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,600 "Ten years later, Jürgen Teller. 658 00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:05,800 "Cloudy puddles, rusty iron doors, barred windows, dismal trees, 659 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,160 "garbage, construction cranes. 660 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,320 "Teller's Berlin photos look like a hastily opened gift 661 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,680 "whose contents disappointed and were cast aside. 662 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,960 "He photographs flawed female bodies that don't fit any ideal: 663 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,800 "thighs adorned with red spots, lips ripped open, elbows too raw." 664 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,640 Heroin chic? 665 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,640 Me again. 666 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,360 "He reacts to the dematerialization of existence with vulnerable bodies 667 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,360 "that tell stories. 668 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,160 "In Berlin he seeks phenomena that open themselves up to narratives. 669 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,400 "The girl in the sweater with Hölderlin in her pocket, 670 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,240 "as Harold Nicholsen described in 1929, 671 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080 "had become a junkie after 1961." 672 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,160 I'm the girl in the sweater. I have Hölderlin in my pocket too. 673 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,200 The City and Its Bodies. 674 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,000 The City of Women. 675 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,520 No, that was another film. 676 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,880 And behind that façade lurks an immense void. 677 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,600 -Hello, Ms. Allmendinger. -Hello, Nola. 678 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,760 I interviewed students for my film and what stood out to me 679 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,400 was most of them answered the questions in relation to their own futures 680 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,840 but never in the context of society as a whole. 681 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,040 And I was wondering if it was due to my questioning technique 682 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,680 that it always went in that individualistic direction. 683 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,080 People naturally start talking about themselves. 684 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:37,760 We know that, and so we have to resort to measures 685 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,120 to make them move on to talking about society of their own accord, 686 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,720 or to get them to extrapolate from themselves to their social circle 687 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,160 or to what they think about society and the world. 688 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,960 So you can of course do that by sitting in a bar for a long time 689 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,840 drinking beer with them 690 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,040 and you'll get that in what we call a "narrative interview." 691 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,320 But you don't get anything representative with that. 692 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:09,600 We start with just what you were criticizing. 693 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,520 We want people focused on themselves, 694 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,880 so they notice how they feel. 695 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,360 And that they begin with themselves alone. 696 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,320 And we do that by trying to shut down cognition. 697 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,280 They shouldn't think. 698 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,640 And then we give them these surfaces. This is a kind of mat. 699 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,840 This is rough, this is glass, this is corrugated cardboard. 700 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,760 -And we say... -And it works. You immediately... 701 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,960 -You feel... -We ask, "How does your life feel today? 702 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,960 -"Just tell me how life feels today." -Yeah. 703 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,560 What the media tells them, what they read in books is immediately gone. 704 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,320 Think about how your life feels. 705 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,360 You can do it differently. I can have you smell this. 706 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,760 How does your life smell? Like this? 707 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,080 Or does life smell like this? 708 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,360 And voilà! You forget what people have been telling you. 709 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,480 We don't want that. We can read that in the paper. 710 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,880 We're interested in your opinion. 711 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,000 When we have them at a point where they've attained inner peace 712 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,240 and have forgotten all else, then we get started. 713 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,440 Then we ask, "How important is a feeling of togetherness to you? 714 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,960 "How important is that to you?" 715 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,520 And then you can answer that question on that very pure level. 716 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,560 Those are preliminary questions, then we move on to the real ones. 717 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,160 What do you desire for the coming generation? 718 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,960 What do you wish to pass on to your kids? What'd be your legacy? 719 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,120 We've already moved a step from a focus on "me" to a focus on society. 720 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,880 And then if we then take a third step and ask, 721 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,800 "And what do you think? How will society actually be?" 722 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,000 Those steps get us something utterly different 723 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,080 than going right to that third level does. 724 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,720 You're absolutely right, then people stay in their own little lives. 725 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,480 If you were given carte blanche what would you change in our society? 726 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:19,200 What we see is that income is important and, of course, so is education. 727 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,720 There's no doubt about that. 728 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,320 But when we consider which people have visions, 729 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,200 which people see life as an opportunity to shape the things around them 730 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,880 and see life as worth shaping. 731 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,840 Increasingly those are people with true circles of friends. 732 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,440 And not lots of friends who are all from the same place, 733 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,000 as was once perhaps the case for me, 734 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:49,000 but friends from different countries and from a diverse array of backgrounds. 735 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,320 People of varying ages and sexual orientations. 736 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,960 And that can be facilitated. 737 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,520 That's something I think society does less and less. 738 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:05,120 We've noticed that those various groups are increasingly staying among themselves. 739 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,360 And so what I would recommend is a mandatory social year. 740 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,640 That there's a kind of mandatory exchange 741 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,200 with people in other countries. 742 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000 We have to introduce people, young people, to that 743 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,680 so that we don't stay in one little spot in Germany our entire lives. 744 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,160 So we want to open up and have to open up to the wider world. 745 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,840 You can't force that on people, they have to want it. 746 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:38,280 And the will to do that comes with one-to-one contact, with experience. 747 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,600 People with a broader focus? 748 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,880 Pessimistic people say, "The feeling of togetherness is lovely, 749 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,080 "but it's going down the drain." 750 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:52,120 Those are people who haven't experienced a feeling of otherness. 751 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,760 -Yes. -Yet you can create that. 752 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,400 You can do that politically, socially with incentives 753 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,680 and by supporting that. 754 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,400 To create the possibility of having those diverse social contacts. 755 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,000 Not by doing the opposite with urban planning, 756 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,160 that is, keeping people among their own, in their own schools. 757 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,440 Or, on the other hand, by having schools that are so diverse 758 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,080 that there's no longer a common thread. 759 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,640 Thank you so much. 760 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,480 We're waiting for one little screw then it's done. 761 01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,240 It looks pretty good already. 762 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,360 Nola. 763 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,160 -How's your film coming along? -Nearly done. 764 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,960 -I just need a really good final scene. -Do you already have a resolution? 765 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,400 I'm not deluding myself. 766 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,440 My film won't change the world or kick-start a revolt. 767 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,160 It's more of a stocktaking. 768 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,400 I asked questions and everyone has to find their own answers. 769 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,480 I'm going. 770 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,560 A package for Pit. 771 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,760 So? Sexy lamp? 772 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,720 "You can't do a thing there anymore," so they said 773 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,040 It's like a museum, all it does is look good 774 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,000 And that's why we're moving on 775 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,320 To shut down the next city 776 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,320 Ownership 777 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,960 Our ownership 778 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,480 Own 779 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,280 Own and everything 780 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,160 Ownership 781 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,120 Our own and everything 782 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,000 -Hello, Mr. Groys. -Hello. 783 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,680 -Nice to see you. -I'm glad you're here. 784 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,040 We've chosen this very futuristic location. 785 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,960 Do you feel like you're in the future here? 786 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,560 Yes, perhaps, inasmuch as this place reminds me of 787 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,880 how I imagined the future when I was a child. 788 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,720 When I read books and saw movies 789 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,480 this is more or less how I imagined it. 790 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,080 It seems to me that for a period, 791 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,600 in the 19th century, at the start of the 20th century 792 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,240 and into the 1960s and 1970s, 793 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,440 people still thought a lot about the future. 794 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,280 And people had the feeling that they could shape the future. 795 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:36,600 That you could push a project through, develop a vision, so to speak, 796 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,480 and then realize it. 797 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:43,000 There was this idea of a sort of human omnipotence. 798 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,240 But now, more and more, 799 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,600 the future is becoming an event to us. 800 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,680 An event 801 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,960 that's new to us. 802 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,440 We're not really prepared. 803 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,280 It often comes as something unexpected. 804 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,200 And we have the feeling that we should constantly adapt. 805 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,800 I believe that our strategic behavior 806 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,280 has increasingly become a strategy of adapting to the future. 807 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,400 I sometimes call that "self-updating." 808 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,080 In one of your texts 809 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,880 you talk about film and say 810 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,720 film contains a paradox between vita contemplativa and vita activa. 811 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,840 That screen heroes are hyperactive. 812 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,520 They shoot, they jump, 813 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,320 they have to achieve heroic aims, 814 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:39,040 and the viewer automatically becomes passive 815 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,200 because he or she sits statically in a chair in a theater seat. 816 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:49,360 How can you become capable of acting in the face of that paradox? 817 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,080 Or how can you induce the viewer to become active? 818 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,840 By getting the viewer 819 01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:01,400 to internally identify with the movie's heroic character. 820 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,600 What you described as internal movement of thought? 821 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,720 -Not movement of thought. -No? 822 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,080 No. 823 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,040 Neither the hero can think... 824 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,440 -The hero can't think? -He can't think. 825 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:19,680 The hero has to act heroically. 826 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,800 And when you act heroically you don't think. 827 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,680 And the viewer isn't supposed to think either. 828 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,240 The thinking viewer was a big mistake of Brecht's. 829 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,600 The viewer should identify... 830 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,000 The viewer should identify with the movie. 831 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,560 The viewer should identify with the hero. 832 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,680 And if that hero is a revolutionary 833 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,840 the viewer will try to adopt the same position, the same attitude. 834 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,280 But via identification, Brecht was anti-identification. 835 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,000 Yes, but I'd say via identification. 836 01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,640 Ultimately... 837 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,360 you have to... 838 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,360 You become revolutionary 839 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:11,160 when you feel like you're in a movie in real life. 840 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,880 -Yeah? -That's the premise. You have to... 841 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,600 -Like you're in a movie in real life? -Yes. 842 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,440 Or like you're in a novel. 843 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,680 The true revolutionary is romantic. What does that mean? 844 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,320 It means life is like a novel to him. 845 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,160 If, just for a moment, 846 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,720 he crashed back down into reality, so to speak, 847 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,760 then the revolution and the romanticism is over. 848 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,840 That means that only as long as I live in that... 849 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,280 Only as long as I live in that totally artificial reality, 850 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,720 which is more real to me than any reality, 851 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,960 am I capable of inciting a revolution. 852 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,080 The moment that reality becomes 853 01:08:59,480 --> 01:09:02,160 a kind of quotidian misery... 854 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,680 When I perceive reality as quotidian misery 855 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:11,000 -When I surrender to that misery. -Yeah, then I just want to go to sleep. 856 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,720 That is, and everyone said this, 857 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,960 Mayakovsky and others said it. 858 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:21,800 The daily grind destroys revolution, the misery of the everyday. 859 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,760 -But still... -The boredom. 860 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,360 The boredom of life. Life is fundamentally boring. 861 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,000 Fundamentally. 862 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,960 And you can't have any kind of revolution against boredom. 863 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,240 Disgust and luxury. 864 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,680 Luxury and disgust, shell and content. 865 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:37,760 You throw concepts into the ring that go beyond the world of shopping 866 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,440 and refer to capitalist society. 867 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,120 It's the bland, dull husk that luxury leaves behind 868 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,000 when the expensive veneer is peeled away. 869 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,000 It's immanent, and thus wickedly genuine. 870 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,120 The luxury item in the glossy bag turns into a monster. 871 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,800 Money is of no use. 872 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,640 An illness that can't be cured with all the plastic surgery in the world. 873 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,480 Yes. 874 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,040 Ms. Schöne-Radunski. 875 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,320 Marvelous name, by the way. 876 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,960 Yes, you have huge potential. 877 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,280 Debunking the hype machine behind the linking of fashion and art 878 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,640 in a clever and rebellious manner. 879 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,880 You really make me feel pissed off, 880 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,600 and like I genuinely don't want to play along with this. 881 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,120 Which is all the more attractive. What I can't have is all the sexier. 882 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,600 That type of thing can escalate into an obsession. 883 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,200 You know what I think of all the pseudo-rebellious young women 884 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,000 who walk in like sluts and do totally conformist art. 885 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,000 That's where things come full circle. 886 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:59,040 Those drug-addict role models have to be the faces of those luxury brands. 887 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,360 I could really imagine something with you, marketing you. 888 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,480 We'll stage your art in public, 889 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,680 crash cultural events, disrupt, we'll be all over the media. 890 01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:14,200 No, you know what? 891 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,040 Screw that. 892 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,640 Right. 893 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,480 We'll shoot this without cuts, okay? 894 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,480 Right. 895 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,040 Just read them aloud one after the other. 896 01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:21,800 What is this? Improvisation? 897 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,480 Please start. 898 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,520 I'll start. 899 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,960 I won't say anything about this cart as a container for goods. 900 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,840 That would be too obvious. 901 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,360 It's about the value of things. 902 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,120 I just bought this thing for a euro. 903 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,240 Are you stupid? I had a plastic token. 904 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,600 Think about what it cost. It must've cost 200 or 300 euros to make. 905 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,240 And who pays for that? 906 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,520 The supermarket? 907 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:03,680 Initially, yes, but the supermarket has you, the shopper, pay for it. 908 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,200 Yeah, exactly. It's like a truck toll. 909 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,400 Huh. 910 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,640 -Huh? -Or like paying taxes. 911 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,040 Yes, it's paid for by the general public. 912 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,680 Uh-huh, but who does it belong to? The supermarket? 913 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,440 Me, because I put a euro in it. 914 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,400 No, you're the holder but not the proprietor. 915 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,040 Come on, let's not get into terminologies again. 916 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,480 Yeah, the thing about taxes is much more interesting. 917 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,760 Huh? Why are taxes interesting? 918 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,320 He means the general public, the general public needs such things. 919 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:51,120 The question remains whether this thing is ours because we paid for it. 920 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,880 If it is ours then we want to have a say in what happens to it. 921 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,760 Yes, that's right. 922 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:03,520 Exactly, we'd better go get the drinks with it or we won't get anywhere. 923 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,320 End of scene. 924 01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:08,200 That's written here. 925 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,280 Welcome! 926 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,040 When do you have to go? Where will you go? 927 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,000 I think they're putting a fitness studio in here. 928 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,120 There can never be enough love. 929 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,800 We need loads of love in politics. 930 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:02,360 I was thinking about all the empty vaults in cemeteries that no one looks after. 931 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,680 You could make hostels out of them. 932 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,680 That's funny, I was thinking that yesterday. 933 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,080 Really? 934 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,000 I'd like to live in a public space. 935 01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,600 -A public space? -Yeah, the circle line. 936 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,040 A theoretician called that "depopulation." I think it's a good term. 937 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,160 The zombie city! 938 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,600 If you have love inside you because you know how it feels 939 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,600 theoretically you can... 940 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,280 But we can't afford romanticism anymore. 941 01:16:32,440 --> 01:16:35,640 I think we need empathetic politics, that'd be key. 942 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,640 I recently saw a couple having sex on a public subway. 943 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,760 That's private. Sex in the subway is privatization. 944 01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,160 But isn't that just the problem? 945 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:50,400 Like the Internet, where everyone writes their beliefs 946 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,760 and makes a public space private. 947 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,360 It's not a belief it's sexual relief. 948 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,640 Can't anyone write that kind of love poem now? 949 01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,200 Lots of people think people don't work anymore 950 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,360 but I think that people would... 951 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,720 Where's the incentive? 952 01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:38,240 We're flying! 953 01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,760 We're flying right out of here! 954 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,640 Bye! 79992

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