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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,420 --> 00:00:03,699 Oliver... 2 00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:06,779 This was clearly meant to look exactly like the Donkey Pitch. 3 00:00:06,780 --> 00:00:08,259 I'm calling the police. 4 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:10,739 I found spots. Are you sure it's not blood? 5 00:00:10,740 --> 00:00:13,459 Our phone lines have been cut. 6 00:00:13,460 --> 00:00:15,859 Hello. I'm Detective Inspector Honey. 7 00:00:15,860 --> 00:00:17,779 This is Detective Sergeant Molina. 8 00:00:17,780 --> 00:00:19,979 Your neighbour, did he take your brother? 9 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:23,459 Yes, Ma'am. And no-one ever found him? 10 00:00:23,460 --> 00:00:25,579 Where's my daughter? Where is she? 11 00:00:25,580 --> 00:00:27,779 You're not the police. You lied to us. 12 00:00:27,780 --> 00:00:29,899 If we don't know what you want, how can we help you? 13 00:00:29,900 --> 00:00:31,180 We want you to be scared. 14 00:00:31,181 --> 00:00:35,419 I found her in the woods, near the Donkey Pitch. 15 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:37,139 Why do you care about a dog? I don't. 16 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:38,339 I care about this. 17 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:39,539 I'll find the dog's owner, 18 00:00:39,540 --> 00:00:41,779 but you'll get information about my brother in return. 19 00:00:41,780 --> 00:00:42,899 We have a deal. 20 00:00:42,900 --> 00:00:44,259 She's swallowed something. 21 00:00:44,260 --> 00:00:46,739 It appears to be jewellery. 22 00:00:46,740 --> 00:00:50,099 Minnet Kable didn't just take my granddaughter that day. 23 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:52,539 What are you doing on my crime scene? 24 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:55,779 Means the world to me that the right man is behind bars. 25 00:00:55,780 --> 00:00:57,499 Because he is the one. 26 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:58,579 Right? 27 00:00:58,580 --> 00:01:00,979 I didn't throw the Donkey Pitch case. 28 00:01:00,980 --> 00:01:03,699 But your theory on those murders... It's full of holes. 29 00:01:03,700 --> 00:01:06,299 It never was one stupid man. 30 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:08,219 It was two very smart ones. 31 00:01:08,220 --> 00:01:10,139 The killers were never caught. 32 00:01:10,140 --> 00:01:11,860 They're still out there. 33 00:01:16,580 --> 00:01:19,739 I'm sorry. I know it's a bad time for this. 34 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:21,659 I didn't mean for them to send you. 35 00:01:21,660 --> 00:01:24,139 Well, it's too late to walk it back now. 36 00:01:24,140 --> 00:01:26,019 But I didn'twant them... Yes, you did. 37 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:28,499 You called CID in the middle of the night. 38 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:32,219 Shared a theory you'd developed based on nothing. 39 00:01:32,220 --> 00:01:35,900 You know, whenIwas a Sergeant and Ihad theories, no-one gave a shit. 40 00:01:36,940 --> 00:01:38,180 Wonder why? 41 00:01:39,580 --> 00:01:41,219 How many kids were there? 42 00:01:41,220 --> 00:01:42,659 Maybe 100. 43 00:01:42,660 --> 00:01:43,779 They scattered. 44 00:01:43,780 --> 00:01:46,459 Anything found in the initial search? 45 00:01:46,460 --> 00:01:47,819 We haven't done one. 46 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:50,499 We're just waiting on someone to fix the lights. 47 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,020 Because we're literally afraid of the dark? 48 00:01:55,140 --> 00:01:56,860 Well, don't be scared, boys. 49 00:01:57,900 --> 00:01:59,540 I don't think she'll bite. 50 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:15,179 There was a report of a possible gunshot. 51 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:16,499 Possible? 52 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:18,579 Or maybe fireworks. 53 00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:19,939 Damn. 54 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:21,700 For a minute there, I got excited. 55 00:02:25,180 --> 00:02:29,139 Sorry. I know the sort of stuff you're used to dealing with... 56 00:02:29,140 --> 00:02:30,860 I've heard about your cases. 57 00:02:32,460 --> 00:02:34,060 Can I ask you something? 58 00:02:35,620 --> 00:02:38,419 I've got a friend who's a paramedic. 59 00:02:38,420 --> 00:02:41,419 Or... she WAS a paramedic. 60 00:02:41,420 --> 00:02:42,979 She quit. 61 00:02:42,980 --> 00:02:47,540 Think it was like, a final-straw situation, you know? 62 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:50,859 Had to do with a bloke. 63 00:02:50,860 --> 00:02:52,899 In a bathtub. 64 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:55,099 They called it Dead Man Talking. 65 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:57,219 She quit because of THAT? 66 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:58,899 Was he still really able to speak? 67 00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:00,860 You know, after he'd done it? 68 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:07,820 The vocal cords sit on top of the windpipe. 69 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:11,979 So you wouldn't necessarily cut through that bit, 70 00:03:11,980 --> 00:03:14,819 even if you slice clean through your own throat. 71 00:03:14,820 --> 00:03:17,819 Didn't know that. Neither did I, at the time. 72 00:03:17,820 --> 00:03:19,300 What did he say? 73 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:23,540 He said that he'd warned me. 74 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:26,100 Which he had. 75 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:29,730 Said I wouldn't want to see what he was going to do. 76 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:33,380 I'd said I could handle it. 77 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:51,139 They set up another generator down here? 78 00:03:51,140 --> 00:03:53,500 I don't know. All the ravers legged it. 79 00:04:01,340 --> 00:04:04,100 These cables connect to something. 80 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:09,339 What IS that? 81 00:04:09,340 --> 00:04:10,540 Oh, fuck! 82 00:04:12,380 --> 00:04:13,580 What? 83 00:04:17,580 --> 00:04:18,740 Shine the light down. 84 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:21,740 Eh?Do it. 85 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:44,340 Figaro's Aria from The Barber Of Seville 86 00:04:56,580 --> 00:04:58,300 Tilly! 87 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:02,699 It's OK. 88 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:03,820 Lights, please. 89 00:05:08,540 --> 00:05:10,019 We've got you. 90 00:05:10,020 --> 00:05:11,860 It's all right, it's all right. 91 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:15,379 You all right there, darling? 92 00:05:15,380 --> 00:05:17,619 Supposed to be good for your looks. 93 00:05:17,620 --> 00:05:20,659 A little hang upside down does wonders for the complexion. 94 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:24,219 She almost died. But she didn't, though, did she? 95 00:05:24,220 --> 00:05:25,980 I do hate melodrama. 96 00:05:29,180 --> 00:05:30,780 It's time. 97 00:05:34,740 --> 00:05:36,259 Mrs A? 98 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:38,220 I need you to do something for us. 99 00:05:40,420 --> 00:05:42,700 Please, please, just leave her be. Please. 100 00:05:45,820 --> 00:05:47,179 Jump on up. 101 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,139 Come on, old girl. Give a little hop. 102 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:50,260 Oh, God. 103 00:05:53,460 --> 00:05:55,020 Stop it! 104 00:05:56,260 --> 00:05:57,740 She can't stand! 105 00:06:00,140 --> 00:06:01,300 No. 106 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:08,419 No, no, no. 107 00:06:08,420 --> 00:06:10,259 Don't touch her. Please, please. 108 00:06:10,260 --> 00:06:11,939 Oliver. 109 00:06:11,940 --> 00:06:13,700 Relax. 110 00:06:17,660 --> 00:06:19,659 He thinks we're going to rape his wife. 111 00:06:19,660 --> 00:06:21,019 But we're not rapists. 112 00:06:21,020 --> 00:06:22,460 Of course we're not. 113 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:25,460 But that's what he's thinking. 114 00:06:26,460 --> 00:06:27,979 Mrs A's worried about it, too. 115 00:06:27,980 --> 00:06:31,499 She is?She thinks we're going to rape the daughter. 116 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:33,139 That's AWFUL. 117 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:34,819 They're a family of perverts. 118 00:06:34,820 --> 00:06:37,380 Oh, I forgot to tell you - you'll like this. 119 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:40,859 Mrs Anchor-Ferrers also has a theory. 120 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:42,939 She thinks we're obsessed with Minnet Kable. 121 00:06:42,940 --> 00:06:44,979 She thinks we're copying him. 122 00:06:44,980 --> 00:06:47,259 So if all of that's true, then we're... 123 00:06:47,260 --> 00:06:49,300 ..copycat murderer rapists? 124 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:53,379 I don't think anyone's considered a third explanation 125 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:54,980 about who we might be. 126 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:59,259 Maybe we should help them out a bit. What do you reckon? 127 00:06:59,260 --> 00:07:01,700 They might appreciate some clarity. 128 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:06,979 Are you really going to do this? 129 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:08,899 Because the Donkey Pitch is closed. 130 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,419 Doesn't mean I can't...And you don't even work in Wales any more. 131 00:07:12,420 --> 00:07:15,379 Open or closed, Wales or London, I have the authority... 132 00:07:15,380 --> 00:07:17,379 Oh, for fuck's sake. 133 00:07:17,380 --> 00:07:20,660 I'm not asking about the reach of your authority. 134 00:07:20,661 --> 00:07:26,859 Though it is interesting timing to be pushing things, isn't it? 135 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:29,150 Aren't you already looking at a suspension? 136 00:07:30,220 --> 00:07:33,460 We can both do off-duty detective work. 137 00:07:34,980 --> 00:07:36,499 Why do you care what I do? 138 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:38,139 Because this is my case, 139 00:07:38,140 --> 00:07:41,339 it's solved, and you don't even live in this country any more. 140 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:43,379 What you're doing is weird. 141 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:44,979 Why are you doing it? 142 00:07:44,980 --> 00:07:46,979 It's five years since the Donkey Pitch. 143 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:49,220 The anniversary.So?So... 144 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,259 I found a note, asking for help. 145 00:07:52,260 --> 00:07:54,499 There wasn't an address, but... 146 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:56,300 Where did you find this note? 147 00:07:57,740 --> 00:07:58,980 On a dog's collar. 148 00:08:02,540 --> 00:08:05,619 I'm fighting my instinct to mock you, 149 00:08:05,620 --> 00:08:09,660 because I just love that statement hanging in the air! 150 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:13,419 I know how it sounds, but it's more than just a note. 151 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:14,979 It's the dog herself. 152 00:08:14,980 --> 00:08:16,339 Did she tell you something? 153 00:08:16,340 --> 00:08:19,539 She'd swallowed a bunch of things. They were stuck in her intestines. 154 00:08:19,540 --> 00:08:22,019 Wha...?And she was found on the Donkey Pitch, 155 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:23,619 the exact same spot. 156 00:08:23,620 --> 00:08:25,899 Look, I think the wrong killer is in prison. 157 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:27,939 And if the right ones are still out there, 158 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:29,870 what if something's about to happen? 159 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:36,900 If something happens tomorrow, if someone is hurt tomorrow... 160 00:08:36,901 --> 00:08:40,699 ..and I did nothing to stop it today, I don't think I could... 161 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:42,060 Wow, Jack. 162 00:08:43,380 --> 00:08:45,180 You're such a great guy. 163 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:04,179 Darling, would you tuck your blouse 164 00:09:04,180 --> 00:09:06,140 up into your bra, please? 165 00:09:09,140 --> 00:09:12,939 But, you just said that you weren't going to do anything like that. 166 00:09:12,940 --> 00:09:14,659 I just want to see your stomach. 167 00:09:14,660 --> 00:09:16,179 That's all I want to do. 168 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:18,380 That's all? Cross my heart, hope to die. 169 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:48,300 Anything you two want, you can have it. 170 00:09:50,140 --> 00:09:51,619 Did you hear me? 171 00:09:51,620 --> 00:09:54,259 Whatever you two want, you can have... 172 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:55,420 Shut up, shut up! 173 00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:01,139 Ugh. Whoo. 174 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:04,140 Nowyour trousers - if you could just wiggle them down a bit. 175 00:10:07,820 --> 00:10:09,459 But... 176 00:10:09,460 --> 00:10:11,899 ..but you said all I had to do was the blouse. 177 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:13,299 Ugh. 178 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:16,459 I'm really shite at keeping promises, aren't I, DS Molina? 179 00:10:16,460 --> 00:10:18,820 It's not your strong point. It's not. 180 00:10:21,060 --> 00:10:22,339 Now... 181 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:24,780 ..lower the trousers down on your hips. 182 00:10:28,140 --> 00:10:31,779 Please understand that in order for us to explain who we are, 183 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:34,460 I will need access to your abdomen. 184 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:39,620 Just, please, let her go. 185 00:10:41,660 --> 00:10:43,499 We'll... we'll do anything. 186 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:45,500 We'll give you anything! 187 00:10:47,860 --> 00:10:51,660 Just how much did you hear about the way Sophie and Hugo died, Mrs A? 188 00:10:51,661 --> 00:10:55,459 I know you know about the bit with the intestines in the trees, 189 00:10:55,460 --> 00:10:57,260 you clever girl. 190 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:03,780 But do you know where Minnet Kable made his cuts? 191 00:11:06,180 --> 00:11:09,939 Because he didn't just slice and dice. 192 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:12,300 It was all quite carefully planned. 193 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:16,020 I'd like to show you, if that's OK. 194 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:21,340 And while I'm drawing... 195 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:24,219 ..perhaps you can ask yourself, 196 00:11:24,220 --> 00:11:27,779 how might these two handsome men know such incredible details 197 00:11:27,780 --> 00:11:29,700 about the Donkey Pitch murders? 198 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:36,060 Why, it almost seems as if they'd have to have been there themselves. 199 00:11:45,580 --> 00:11:48,179 I feel like they just got it. They did, indeed. 200 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:50,859 They understand it was us on the Donkey Pitch. 201 00:11:50,860 --> 00:11:53,459 Well, now you're just overexplaining. 202 00:11:53,460 --> 00:11:54,900 Sorry. 203 00:12:01,180 --> 00:12:02,860 Oh, darling. 204 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:06,499 You can make noise if you like. 205 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:09,940 It's cliche to say, but in this instance it's true. 206 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:13,940 There's no-one to hear you scream. 207 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:22,459 It's your company's sponsor mark on the ring. 208 00:12:22,460 --> 00:12:25,459 You mean it's my FATHER'S company's sponsor mark is on the ring. 209 00:12:25,460 --> 00:12:29,819 Right. Sorry. Anyway, it says "To Matilda, love 'Jimmy'." 210 00:12:29,820 --> 00:12:31,299 And the "Jimmy" is in quotes. 211 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:33,539 So if you can just do a quick search for any engravings 212 00:12:33,540 --> 00:12:36,179 you've done for a James, then I can cross reference the hits 213 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:37,539 with marriages to Matildas. 214 00:12:37,540 --> 00:12:39,659 Right, and when you say, do a quick search, 215 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:42,659 and "hits" and all that, are you talking about using a computer? 216 00:12:42,660 --> 00:12:43,859 Yeah. 217 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:45,420 No computers here. 218 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:48,419 Your company doesn't use computers? 219 00:12:48,420 --> 00:12:50,899 My father's company didn't use computers. 220 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:52,500 I'm a software developer. 221 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:56,699 So, searching manually, then... 222 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,660 ..how long do you reckon that might take? 223 00:13:00,620 --> 00:13:03,740 This side of Christmas, probably. 224 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:47,660 No, that's no bother. No, I need to arrange a prison visit. 225 00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:51,220 My name's Minnet Kable. 226 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,940 Yeah, that's him. Double murder. Couple of kids. 227 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,579 This interview is being tape recorded. 228 00:14:06,580 --> 00:14:12,299 The time is 10:15am, and the date is the 11th May 2018. 229 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:14,699 I'm Detective Inspector Maia Lincoln. 230 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:17,579 This is Detective Inspector Gareth Matthews. 231 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:19,819 We'd like to talk to you about Sophie and Hugo. 232 00:14:19,820 --> 00:14:22,419 We're trying to understand a bit more about who they were. 233 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:24,379 So we're talking to everyone they knew. 234 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:27,299 Their friends, their classmates, the whole school. 235 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:29,820 To be clear, none of you are suspects. 236 00:14:31,140 --> 00:14:33,419 What can you tell us about Sophie and Hugo? 237 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:34,619 What were they like? 238 00:14:34,620 --> 00:14:36,180 They were OK. 239 00:14:37,620 --> 00:14:38,939 Just OK? 240 00:14:38,940 --> 00:14:41,500 I mean, they were nice, I guess. 241 00:14:42,580 --> 00:14:44,379 Can you be a little more specific? 242 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:45,700 I don't know. 243 00:14:46,780 --> 00:14:49,299 Can you think of anyone that might have a reason 244 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:51,299 to want to hurt Sophie or Hugo? 245 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:53,099 Maybe. 246 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:54,659 Maybe? 247 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:56,339 I just mean, like, maybe, 248 00:14:56,340 --> 00:14:59,219 because everyone fights with someone sometimes. 249 00:14:59,220 --> 00:15:01,539 So nothing specific comes to mind? 250 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:03,340 I was being hypothetical. 251 00:15:05,220 --> 00:15:08,219 Did they ever say anything that might make you think 252 00:15:08,220 --> 00:15:09,939 that they were in trouble? 253 00:15:09,940 --> 00:15:11,540 No. 254 00:15:13,620 --> 00:15:15,659 Were they acting differently, maybe? 255 00:15:15,660 --> 00:15:18,819 You know, any kind of unusual behaviour? 256 00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:20,579 No. 257 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:24,140 Did Sophie ever mention a boyfriend, maybe someone older? 258 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:26,939 No. 259 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:30,019 Can you think of anything else that we should know? 260 00:15:30,020 --> 00:15:31,540 Anything at all? 261 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:39,379 Sophie and Hugo hung out with Emily and Max. 262 00:15:39,380 --> 00:15:42,059 The four of them did everything together. 263 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:43,540 They were exclusive. 264 00:15:43,541 --> 00:15:46,699 How did the other students feel about them? 265 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:48,539 Everyone hates the popular kids. 266 00:15:48,540 --> 00:15:51,259 But they weren't total dicks. Beth... 267 00:15:51,260 --> 00:15:53,779 Emily's, like, this medium-dick. 268 00:15:53,780 --> 00:15:57,899 Like, shitty-online-but-mostly-OK- to-your-face, medium-dick. 269 00:15:57,900 --> 00:15:59,299 Know what I mean? 270 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,099 Yeah, I do. 271 00:16:01,100 --> 00:16:04,219 Look, you're wasting your time talking to the whole school. 272 00:16:04,220 --> 00:16:07,299 Most of us never even spoke to those four. 273 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,499 We don't know anything. 274 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:12,059 So you don't think anyone is hiding something from us? 275 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:13,979 Well, the guys probably aren't mentioning 276 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:15,459 that they wanked off to Sophie... 277 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:17,580 Bethany, honestly!It's true! 278 00:16:17,641 --> 00:16:21,579 But if there IS anything to really know, 279 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:24,140 the only people who would know it are Emily and Max. 280 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:38,780 It's really peaceful out here. 281 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:41,740 Never noticed before. 282 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:44,420 Ugh. 283 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:54,579 I think I might look to settle in the area. 284 00:16:54,580 --> 00:16:56,339 Once all this is over. 285 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:58,619 Not many people consider buying property 286 00:16:58,620 --> 00:17:00,299 at the scene of their own crime. 287 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:01,700 I know. 288 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:17,019 Christ! Deer traps are heavy. 289 00:17:17,020 --> 00:17:19,379 I thought you were going to shoot the deer. 290 00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:21,540 Truth is, I'm not the best shot. 291 00:17:22,820 --> 00:17:24,339 Stigmatism. 292 00:17:24,340 --> 00:17:26,700 So, I built my own trap. 293 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:40,539 Why are we so worried about getting the dog back? 294 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:41,860 Doesn't have a chip in it. 295 00:17:46,060 --> 00:17:49,019 What if the dog goes to the neighbour's house? 296 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:51,179 What if the neighbour kindly brings the dog back here? 297 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:52,700 What would we say? 298 00:18:07,780 --> 00:18:10,459 We'd known each other since we were... 299 00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:12,500 ..five. 300 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:17,340 I can't believe I won't see her at school and... 301 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:20,819 Can't ring her. 302 00:18:20,820 --> 00:18:25,259 Emily, can you think of anyone that might want to harm Sophie? 303 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:27,180 I can't, honestly. 304 00:18:28,460 --> 00:18:30,139 What about Hugo? 305 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,219 Any enemies in his life? 306 00:18:32,220 --> 00:18:33,900 Hugo didn't have enemies. 307 00:18:35,420 --> 00:18:37,259 You couldn't hate him. He was... 308 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:38,540 ..sweet. 309 00:18:40,020 --> 00:18:44,499 Emily, even really good kids sometimes keep things 310 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:46,579 from the adults in their lives. 311 00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:49,859 And it wouldn't be speaking ill of Sophie and Hugo 312 00:18:49,860 --> 00:18:52,739 if you were to talk to us about that kind of thing. 313 00:18:52,740 --> 00:18:54,860 You wouldn't be in any trouble. 314 00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:09,940 We weren't hiding anything. 315 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,619 The four of us just wanted to do well in school. 316 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:19,580 Get into good universities. 317 00:19:21,420 --> 00:19:23,380 There's no big, awful secret. 318 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:39,459 So is this going to be in the press again?No. No media. 319 00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:41,459 Because I don't want it coming up again, 320 00:19:41,460 --> 00:19:42,900 when people Google me. 321 00:19:43,860 --> 00:19:45,580 I do "what I eat in a day"s. 322 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:49,380 Did they not have those on MySpace? 323 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:52,779 So, Sophie and Hugo were a couple. 324 00:19:52,780 --> 00:19:55,940 Did that ever get awkward with you and Max? 325 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,219 I already told the police all of this at the time. 326 00:20:00,220 --> 00:20:03,859 Humour me.Max and I both have alibis for the night of the murders. 327 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:05,699 I was at my great-aunt's birthday. 328 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,979 You didn't kill your friends. I get it. 329 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,340 But just walk me through what happened. 330 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:14,420 Max and I argued with them, a couple of weeks before they died. 331 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:18,139 Silent treatment, both ways, you know? 332 00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:20,659 Anyway, the police know all about it. 333 00:20:20,660 --> 00:20:22,700 We told them everything. 334 00:20:29,260 --> 00:20:33,339 200,000 followers wanting to know what you eat during the day? 335 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:35,099 Ah, you saw my TikTok. 336 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:36,819 Yeah. 337 00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:38,619 Isaw your Insta, too. 338 00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:41,780 Haven't been on that in months. More like years. 339 00:20:41,781 --> 00:20:46,579 Oh, I'm not talking about the account that's still active today. 340 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:49,540 I'm talking about the account that you deleted in 2019. 341 00:20:50,740 --> 00:20:53,859 You see, police, we can retrieve all that information. 342 00:20:53,860 --> 00:20:55,820 Your posts, comments. 343 00:20:55,821 --> 00:20:59,779 Usually there's a lot of paperwork, but, believe it or not, 344 00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:01,979 there are some people willing to do me a favour - 345 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:04,179 I can be charming.Mm. 346 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:08,020 You really don't like trans people, do you? 347 00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:12,979 You see, a few years ago, no-one would have cared 348 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:14,819 about that stuff, but nowadays... 349 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:16,819 I mean, that's, uh... 350 00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:18,860 ..that's transphobia, isn't it? 351 00:21:21,220 --> 00:21:23,859 You're over-simplifying what I said online. 352 00:21:23,860 --> 00:21:25,019 There's context. 353 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:27,219 And if there's one thing cancel culture likes 354 00:21:27,220 --> 00:21:29,060 to take into account, it's context. 355 00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:32,659 Who supplied the Ritalin? 356 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:34,419 Excuse me? 357 00:21:34,420 --> 00:21:37,139 The four of you - your grades were sky-high. 358 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:39,179 Plus all your activities - 359 00:21:39,180 --> 00:21:42,979 you wouldn't have time to study, at least not in the old-fashioned way. 360 00:21:42,980 --> 00:21:45,019 So I'd have to be an idiot not to assume 361 00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:47,780 that study drugs were involved. So who supplied them? 362 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:51,740 Because it's harder to come by than weed. 363 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:56,699 Just answer my question and I will leave you alone. 364 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:58,419 It was Adderall. 365 00:21:58,420 --> 00:21:59,820 Not Ritalin. 366 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:03,499 Sophie bought it for us. 367 00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:05,939 She had a connection in Cardiff. She never told me his name. 368 00:22:05,940 --> 00:22:07,750 Why wouldn't she tell you his name? 369 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:12,219 Because he was like... 370 00:22:12,220 --> 00:22:14,260 ..hers. 371 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:34,060 Ugh. 372 00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:38,460 Oh,fucking hell. 373 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:04,379 You can honestly wiggle out of these? 374 00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:05,700 I wouldn't lie to you, pal. 375 00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:10,500 All right. I admit it. 376 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:12,900 It's beautiful out here. 377 00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:15,310 It's the mist. 378 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:18,420 The morning mist has... 379 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,459 What the fuck is this? 380 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:17,019 Uh... 381 00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:19,459 I think it might be a security sign?! 382 00:25:19,460 --> 00:25:21,499 Yeah, I know it's a security sign, you bell-end. 383 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,819 What's it doing outside of the Anchor-Ferrers' home? 384 00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:26,179 Maybe they have security cameras? 385 00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:27,939 Is it such a big deal? 386 00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:29,899 Feels like it might be, yeah. 387 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:34,099 But there's no Wi-Fi, so nothing's being sent to the cloud or anything. 388 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,339 It's probably OK. I don't feel like it's probably OK. 389 00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:38,859 I feel like it's probably not OK. 390 00:25:38,860 --> 00:25:41,099 Really, totally, absolutely not fucking OK 391 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,339 that maybe we're being recorded right now! 392 00:25:43,340 --> 00:25:45,100 Argh! 393 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,819 The dog was the first fuck-up. 394 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,419 There'll not be a second. This job is too important. 395 00:25:56,420 --> 00:25:57,700 Do you understand? 396 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:03,859 Now, let's find those cameras. 397 00:26:03,860 --> 00:26:05,420 Destroy them. 398 00:26:06,540 --> 00:26:07,739 But where are they? 399 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,979 Well, I don't know, fanny flaps, do you? 400 00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:11,580 We could ask the family. 401 00:26:12,660 --> 00:26:15,099 Not sure that we can trust their answers. 402 00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:16,459 True. 403 00:26:16,460 --> 00:26:18,180 They're probably cross with us. 404 00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:22,180 So what do we do? 405 00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:45,219 We're going to play a little game. 406 00:26:45,220 --> 00:26:46,699 What kind of game? 407 00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,979 I'm going to ask you, your dad and your mum a question. 408 00:26:49,980 --> 00:26:51,859 If all your answers match... 409 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:54,019 ..then, Mummy gets a pillow. 410 00:26:54,020 --> 00:26:56,419 But if the answers DON'T match... 411 00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:58,060 ..if one of you lies... 412 00:27:00,571 --> 00:27:06,259 ..then, Mummy will be wheeled in for surgery straight away. 413 00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:07,939 No! You said you wouldn't do that yet. 414 00:27:07,940 --> 00:27:10,779 I know, I know. I said surgery could wait a few days. 415 00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:14,379 But we have sort of established I can't be trusted, haven't we? 416 00:27:14,380 --> 00:27:16,020 So that's the choice. 417 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:19,460 Pillow or cutting. 418 00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:22,499 All depends on the answers to the... 419 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:24,419 But what question?! I don't know anything! 420 00:27:24,420 --> 00:27:26,100 First off, don't interrupt. 421 00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:29,939 Second off, have a bit of faith in yourself. 422 00:27:29,940 --> 00:27:32,219 You might know the answer. 423 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:34,220 Young people today are so insecure. 424 00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:37,060 I blame social media. 425 00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:40,540 Where are the cameras? 426 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:50,259 Where... are... the... cameras? 427 00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:52,019 We don't use them any more. 428 00:27:52,020 --> 00:27:54,180 My parents put them away ages ago. 429 00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,339 You still haven't answered the question, Lucia. 430 00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:00,619 I think they're in a box in the basement. 431 00:28:00,620 --> 00:28:02,259 There's three of them. 432 00:28:02,260 --> 00:28:04,380 Is that your final answer, Lucia? 433 00:28:06,860 --> 00:28:08,820 Willing to bet Mummy's life on it? 434 00:28:14,740 --> 00:28:15,860 Well? 435 00:28:17,540 --> 00:28:20,179 The cameras are in a box in the basement. 436 00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:21,979 There's three of them. 437 00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:23,620 They're not in use. 438 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:31,539 Out of pure curiosity, 439 00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:33,499 why are the cameras not in use? 440 00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,579 Never could get the signal working to send anything up to the cloud. 441 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:39,379 They were useless, really. 442 00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:41,579 So you took the cameras down, 443 00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:45,019 but left the security sign up outside the house. 444 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:46,539 Why? 445 00:28:46,540 --> 00:28:48,380 To ward off intruders. 446 00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:55,259 How's that working out for you? 447 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:57,179 Why are you doing this? 448 00:28:57,180 --> 00:28:58,659 It feels personal, 449 00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:01,540 like you hate us. But we don't even know you. 450 00:29:54,780 --> 00:29:56,580 What was the, er, procedure? 451 00:29:57,860 --> 00:29:59,540 A median sternotomy. 452 00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:02,780 And in layman terms, you twat? 453 00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:05,380 A transplant. 454 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:15,260 So someone else's heart is keeping you alive? 455 00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:18,339 Yeah?Yeah. 456 00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:20,059 Do you know who it was? 457 00:30:20,060 --> 00:30:22,020 It doesn't work that way. 458 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,300 Are you curious what it looks like? 459 00:30:33,740 --> 00:30:35,460 Huh? Are you? 460 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:40,700 I am. 461 00:30:49,340 --> 00:30:50,660 You see, Oliver... 462 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:53,780 ..you might not know me. 463 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:57,299 But I know you. 464 00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,499 But I don't know. I don't. 465 00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,060 You don't want to disappoint me. 466 00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:04,299 Your husband already did. 467 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,259 Is he all right?! 468 00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:07,860 He's fine. Now... 469 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:10,339 ..cameras? 470 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:12,179 I have no idea where they are! 471 00:31:12,180 --> 00:31:14,939 I just, you know, I don't deal with that sort of thing. 472 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:17,179 Ollie does!Hmm... 473 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,339 All right. 474 00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:21,059 Enough is enough. 475 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:22,219 Count of three, Mrs A. 476 00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:23,259 No! 477 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,019 One...I don't know! 478 00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:27,100 Two...I don't know, you sick fuck! 479 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:36,259 Worstbed and breakfast ever. 480 00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:39,180 One-star review coming your way. 481 00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:43,620 The basement! They-they... 482 00:31:43,621 --> 00:31:48,139 They're in the basement! I think they're in the...They'reprobably 483 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:51,630 in a box in the basement somewhere, and I think there are three of them. 484 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:56,660 Now, was that so hard?No. 485 00:31:58,180 --> 00:31:59,300 No. 486 00:32:02,740 --> 00:32:07,539 Tell me, Mrs Anchor-Ferrers, just out of pure curiosity, 487 00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:10,019 why did Oliver take the cameras down? 488 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:11,300 Uh... 489 00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:15,820 I think that they were an eyesore... 490 00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:18,980 ..in the garden. 491 00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,420 You ridiculously shallow snob. 492 00:32:36,660 --> 00:32:38,460 Give her the pillow. 493 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:05,699 You sure all this is necessary? 494 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,459 You said we're already behind schedule. 495 00:33:08,460 --> 00:33:11,299 Family's not going to torture themselves, you know. 496 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:13,059 At least I don't THINK they would. 497 00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:14,260 Got them. 498 00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:21,499 They were telling the truth! 499 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,340 Now we don't have to worry about the cameras, yeah? 500 00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:29,979 What's wrong? 501 00:33:29,980 --> 00:33:33,179 The security sign, at the bottom of the drive. 502 00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:34,899 What about it? 503 00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:37,179 I swear it wasn't there when we arrived. 504 00:33:37,180 --> 00:33:38,700 But it had to be. 505 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:42,300 Right? 506 00:33:51,660 --> 00:33:53,179 Bang on. 507 00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:54,940 Good, good. 508 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:58,539 The station said you'd be here. 509 00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:00,939 Did they also tell you it was my day off? 510 00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:03,339 If my missus finds out I'm doing anything work related 511 00:34:03,340 --> 00:34:05,419 at my son's match, you're my human shield. 512 00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:06,780 Right?Deal. 513 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:10,379 So which one's yours, then? 514 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:12,100 That one, there. 515 00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:16,740 And as you can see, this requires my undivided attention. 516 00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:21,179 Well, he's cute. 517 00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:23,020 Yeah, yeah, he is. 518 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:26,019 Lincoln told me you were back in town. 519 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:27,539 And she told me what you were doing. 520 00:34:27,540 --> 00:34:29,939 Listen, I know I've got no business looking into your cases. 521 00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:31,379 You don't. 522 00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:33,819 Come on, Tomos, cica'r bl, boy! 523 00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:35,499 C'mon, ref! 524 00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:36,700 Gah. 525 00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:39,899 So, you 100% on Minnet Kable? 526 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:41,419 I am. 527 00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:43,819 You ever look into any drug connections? 528 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:45,860 What, with Sophie and Hugo? No. 529 00:34:45,861 --> 00:34:49,539 Why - you don't think they could have been into drugs, or...? 530 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:51,019 Of course they were into drugs. 531 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:53,259 And I'm sure we didn't hear about it from their friends 532 00:34:53,260 --> 00:34:55,699 cos their parents were in the room. We assumed as much, Jack. 533 00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:58,539 We're not stupid.I didn't think you were. You think those friends were 534 00:34:58,540 --> 00:35:00,419 hiding an involvement in drugs that was so deep 535 00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:02,979 that it resulted in Sophie and Hugo's gruesome double murder? 536 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:05,259 What were they, international kingpins? 537 00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:07,099 I'd like to look into the drug angle. 538 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,699 Well, you have the authority to do that, Jack. 539 00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:11,339 Though I will say, it is a bit... 540 00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:13,660 Weird. Yeah.Yeah. I've been told as much. 541 00:35:13,661 --> 00:35:17,939 So which fib would've known the most about the drug scene back then? 542 00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:20,459 And not just weed, but other stuff. 543 00:35:20,460 --> 00:35:22,299 I know one guy. 544 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:25,179 He was a Sergeant round the same time as you, actually. 545 00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:28,059 But I don't think you two knew each other very well. 546 00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:29,579 I'll put you in touch. 547 00:35:29,580 --> 00:35:30,900 Mm. 548 00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,779 Noregrets about leaving Wales? 549 00:35:35,780 --> 00:35:38,099 Did moving back to London fix it? 550 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:39,700 I was rooting for you, you know. 551 00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:55,179 Sorry you had to come all the way out here. 552 00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:56,659 I was checking something out. 553 00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:59,299 That's all good. Congrats on making detective. 554 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,699 Ah, yeah. 555 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:02,099 Four months now. 556 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,659 Settling into it. 557 00:36:03,660 --> 00:36:05,140 Mostly. 558 00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:09,339 It's good to see you. 559 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:12,899 I know we never talked much, but... still. 560 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:14,260 Yeah. You, too. 561 00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:17,859 Listen, I'm looking into an old case 562 00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:20,499 and I was hoping you could help me with something. 563 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:21,779 Was the case unsolved? 564 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,459 No, it's solved, but... 565 00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:24,740 ..I don't like it. 566 00:36:25,860 --> 00:36:29,500 Sometimes you just know - right? 567 00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:32,859 Right, yeah. 568 00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:34,419 Mm. 569 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:37,539 The victims, they were into Adderall, which they got in Cardiff. 570 00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:39,099 This was maybe five, six years ago. 571 00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:40,659 Me and you were both skippers then. 572 00:36:40,660 --> 00:36:43,820 But I can't remember ever coming across any study drugs. 573 00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:47,259 Can you?Mm... 574 00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:48,819 I remember lots of drug busts... 575 00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:51,819 ..but not that specifically, no. 576 00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:53,180 Sorry. 577 00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:56,939 Really wanted to help you. That's allright. 578 00:36:56,940 --> 00:37:00,019 The old case I'm looking into is the Donkey Pitch murders. 579 00:37:00,020 --> 00:37:01,619 Christ. 580 00:37:01,620 --> 00:37:04,819 You think we got the wrong guy for that? 581 00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:07,379 Maybe you can't remember Adderall specifically, 582 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:09,499 but those kids WERE keeping secrets. 583 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,019 Who knows what they were into? 584 00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:15,179 So can you remember any scenes from back then - I'm talking houses, 585 00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:18,700 raves, whatever - where something just seemed a little off? 586 00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:24,580 Mm. 587 00:37:27,540 --> 00:37:30,899 When we pulled up, there was maybe... 100 of them. 588 00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:32,419 But they scattered. 589 00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:35,819 So I've got no way of knowing if your Donkey Pitch victims... 590 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:37,619 Sophie and Hugo.Right. 591 00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:40,659 I've got no way of knowing if they were here that night. 592 00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:44,899 There was one girl, she broke her foot, running. 593 00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:47,019 Friends just left her. 594 00:37:47,020 --> 00:37:51,339 We got a statement, but she didn't give us anything useful. 595 00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:53,939 I'd like her name. The file. Yeah? 596 00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:55,460 Yeah, no problem. 597 00:38:03,211 --> 00:38:09,179 The others thought it was just a rave that got out of control. 598 00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:12,459 But I don't know, Jack. Have you ever been in the presence of - 599 00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:15,420 I know this sounds over the top - but something evil? 600 00:38:16,580 --> 00:38:18,820 Anyway, well organised. 601 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,019 Loads of drugs. 602 00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:24,419 No study drugs, though. 603 00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:26,059 Least, none that we found. 604 00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:27,539 But there could have been? 605 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:28,900 Mm. For sure. 606 00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:33,860 At the time, I thought... 607 00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:36,259 What? 608 00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:39,220 There were a few of these raves back then. 609 00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:44,420 At one of them, we found shackles, chains, handcuffs. 610 00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:47,619 If we'd found that stuff in the bedroom, 611 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:51,579 maybe we wouldn't have thought much about it, 612 00:38:51,580 --> 00:38:54,139 but they were all over the main floor, 613 00:38:54,140 --> 00:38:55,419 where the rave was. 614 00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,779 Like people were tied up, and other people were... 615 00:38:57,780 --> 00:38:59,139 Watching. 616 00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:01,579 Exactly.Huh. 617 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:03,419 I don't know. 618 00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:08,059 I started to wonder if maybe the raves were connected. 619 00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:11,780 Like, maybe there was some cult stuff going on. 620 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:14,539 You tell anyone? 621 00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:15,590 Yeah. 622 00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:21,059 Called a detective here. 623 00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:25,299 But... she shot that theory down pretty quick. 624 00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:27,139 You remember her name? 625 00:39:27,140 --> 00:39:29,179 DI Lincoln. 626 00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:31,579 You know her?Yeah. 627 00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:32,980 Little bit. 628 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:43,899 There must have been about 50 snakes. 629 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:45,899 Proper dangerous, like. 630 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:48,619 Not going to lie, scared the shit out of me. 631 00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:50,420 And the rave was in here, too?Yeah. 632 00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:54,380 At first I thought it was a nest of snakes. 633 00:39:55,780 --> 00:39:58,180 But I mean, this is a stone box, right? 634 00:39:59,540 --> 00:40:01,620 Snakes don't nest in a place like this. 635 00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:05,779 Someone must have brought them here. 636 00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:07,499 Who would do something like that? 637 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,540 And how did we never catch them? 638 00:40:17,380 --> 00:40:18,430 Dad?! 639 00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:20,580 Lucia?! 640 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,339 Lucia, are you all right? 641 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:25,820 I'm scared. 642 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:29,179 I'm so scared. 643 00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:30,580 I can't... 644 00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:35,940 I can't fix this. 645 00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:39,340 I can't fix it! 646 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,859 We're going to die, aren't we? 647 00:40:43,860 --> 00:40:46,260 Oh! Oh, Lucia! 648 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:50,379 I can't fix this. 649 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:51,980 Forgive me! 650 00:40:56,420 --> 00:40:57,780 Oh! 651 00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:09,900 HONEY, MOCKINGLY: Oh, Lucia! I can't fix it. 652 00:41:13,180 --> 00:41:15,980 I'll fucking kill you! I'll kill you! 653 00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:19,220 I can't fix it! 654 00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:39,020 Can I ask you something? 655 00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:43,580 In Newport, you were always on your own. 656 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:47,539 You didn't join for the pub quizzes. 657 00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:51,059 You weren't messing around with the lads, ever. 658 00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:52,819 You were just... 659 00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:54,499 ..alone. 660 00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:55,899 Right. 661 00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:57,939 But you were OK with it. 662 00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:59,739 I was. 663 00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:01,020 Still am. 664 00:42:03,580 --> 00:42:05,539 How'd you do that? 665 00:42:05,540 --> 00:42:06,819 Sorry? 666 00:42:06,820 --> 00:42:10,099 Like, how do you do this job on your own? 667 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,740 Because it feels... 668 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:14,900 ..lonely. 669 00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:18,340 I feel lonely. 670 00:42:21,460 --> 00:42:23,179 Find a partner. Work with them. 671 00:42:23,180 --> 00:42:25,100 Loads of people do. 672 00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:33,059 You've already tried working with a partner, haven't you? 673 00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:34,579 They wanted to switch. 674 00:42:34,580 --> 00:42:37,060 So, you know... 675 00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:41,099 I want to fit in with the lads. 676 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,579 I do. 677 00:42:42,580 --> 00:42:44,419 It's just... 678 00:42:44,420 --> 00:42:45,700 ..it's not easy for me. 679 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:49,219 I think I try too hard. 680 00:42:49,220 --> 00:42:51,620 So I thought, maybe... 681 00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:54,900 ..I'd just be a bit more like you. 682 00:42:56,060 --> 00:42:57,459 Just... 683 00:42:57,460 --> 00:42:59,059 ..not care. 684 00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:01,099 Everyone cares. 685 00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,780 Everyone wants... 686 00:43:04,460 --> 00:43:05,780 That's normal. 687 00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:08,940 Just give it time, yeah? 688 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:11,860 OK. 689 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,099 Are you going to ask me to stay for dinner? 690 00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:38,019 What are you doing here? Cos I haven't eaten. 691 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:39,940 How are you inside of my home? 692 00:43:42,220 --> 00:43:44,019 Why did you move back to London? 693 00:43:44,020 --> 00:43:45,540 Personal reasons. 694 00:43:45,541 --> 00:43:49,299 Matthews pulled strings to get you into Major Crimes. 695 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:51,219 Matthews is a softie. 696 00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:54,259 So what's the sob story? I never told him a sob story. 697 00:43:54,260 --> 00:43:57,019 I told him I needed to go back to London. 698 00:43:57,020 --> 00:43:58,859 He didn't ask for details. 699 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:00,380 Cos he's not a dick. 700 00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:03,180 But I am. 701 00:44:05,380 --> 00:44:09,420 I'm a throbbing, veiny dick. 702 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,460 And I want to hear the sob story. 703 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:17,140 So what is it? 704 00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:21,460 Sick mum? Sick dad? 705 00:44:23,060 --> 00:44:25,179 Have they carked it yet? 706 00:44:25,180 --> 00:44:26,819 Oh, they have, haven't they? 707 00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:28,860 Someone's in a box. 708 00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:32,020 Tell me who. 709 00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,619 It seems you're not fully understanding 710 00:44:35,620 --> 00:44:38,939 what's happening here, Jack, so let me spell it out. 711 00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:40,780 You are fucking with my case. 712 00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,259 So I'm going to fuck with your head. 713 00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:46,699 And I'm not leaving until you tell me... 714 00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:48,700 My brother went missing when he was ten. 715 00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:51,659 And I was eight. 716 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:53,900 We had an argument in our treehouse. 717 00:44:55,140 --> 00:44:56,819 I started it. 718 00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:59,179 And I shoved him. 719 00:44:59,180 --> 00:45:01,060 Agh! 720 00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:05,260 And he got angry and he stormed off. 721 00:45:07,940 --> 00:45:10,339 I tried to go after him, but I fell. 722 00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:13,899 I was hanging on to the planks of the treehouse with one hand. 723 00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:16,260 My thumb got stuck and... 724 00:45:29,380 --> 00:45:31,140 Ewanleft because of me. 725 00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:34,339 He never came home. 726 00:45:34,340 --> 00:45:36,060 And my thumb never healed. 727 00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:45,300 It was my neighbour who had Ewan. 728 00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:48,299 I knew it. 729 00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:49,779 And he loved that I knew it. 730 00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:52,940 He loved that I knew what he'd gotten away with. 731 00:45:55,180 --> 00:45:57,499 So for years, I'd search through his things, 732 00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:59,859 through his rubbish, looking for evidence of Ewan. 733 00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:02,460 And he'd plant things for me to find as well. 734 00:46:08,580 --> 00:46:10,020 It was torture. 735 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:15,780 So, I joined the force. 736 00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:20,540 And on day one, his was the first name I entered into the system. 737 00:46:22,380 --> 00:46:24,019 He's a paedophile. 738 00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:25,899 He's served time for it. 739 00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:27,619 But I couldn't get him on anything. 740 00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:29,140 I couldn't... 741 00:46:29,141 --> 00:46:34,299 And every item that he ever left me, it never had a print on it. 742 00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:35,700 Never had a print. 743 00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:38,619 I got so angry. 744 00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:40,540 I got so angry, that... 745 00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:43,460 ..I left London... 746 00:46:45,380 --> 00:46:47,540 ..cos I thought that it would be better here. 747 00:46:48,580 --> 00:46:50,620 But, it was worse. 748 00:46:53,860 --> 00:46:56,340 Do you want me to feel sorry for you? 749 00:46:58,820 --> 00:47:00,580 You're the only person who won't. 750 00:47:26,580 --> 00:47:28,059 Hello, mate. 751 00:47:28,060 --> 00:47:30,819 Sent over the file on the girl that we interviewed at the rave. 752 00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:33,259 One that broke her foot. All right. 753 00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:35,540 Just... wanted to make sure you got it. 754 00:47:48,020 --> 00:47:49,660 I'll be out in a minute. 755 00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:52,740 It's OK. 756 00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:57,539 I mean, the shower will be free in a minute. 757 00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:59,140 I'm all right. 758 00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:08,300 Are you not planning on showering this evening? 759 00:48:10,740 --> 00:48:12,499 Wasn't going to. Why? 760 00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:14,700 Because you handled intestines. 761 00:48:17,340 --> 00:48:20,140 Civilised people would want to... 762 00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:30,060 Oh, God, the smell... 763 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:33,339 You really smell something? 764 00:48:33,340 --> 00:48:36,219 Yeah. And it's... and it's getting worse. 765 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:39,980 Do you have conflicting feelings about what we're doing here? 766 00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:45,659 I read this story about this bloke who kills another bloke, 767 00:48:45,660 --> 00:48:48,380 buries him in the floor, and gets away with it, right? 768 00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:53,659 Except he hears the dead guy's heart beating. 769 00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:55,419 Drives him bonkers. 770 00:48:55,420 --> 00:48:59,739 But the thing is, it's not really beating, it's all in his head. 771 00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:02,979 Like the beating of the heart represents 772 00:49:02,980 --> 00:49:04,860 the original bloke's guilt. 773 00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:08,499 So I was thinking, 774 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:11,019 maybe there isn't a smell in the house, 775 00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:13,459 but you THINK that there is, 776 00:49:13,460 --> 00:49:16,590 because you have conflicted feelings about what we're doing. 777 00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:21,900 It's the fucking intestines. 778 00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:24,899 You left them by the car, didn't you? 779 00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:27,179 They're rotting and the smell is wafting up the stairs 780 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:28,740 from the back of the house. 781 00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:07,820 I'm looking for Bethany Collins. 782 00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:10,580 She's through there. 783 00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:30,379 My God, who are you?! 784 00:50:30,380 --> 00:50:31,899 I'm DI Caffery. 785 00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:34,779 Police.You're creepy as fuck is what you are. 786 00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:36,659 I didn't mean to scare you. 787 00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:38,619 You're literally lurking in the shadows. 788 00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:40,699 Well, you wouldn't answer your mobile, so... 789 00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:42,220 I'm on a detox. 790 00:50:43,780 --> 00:50:45,220 What do you want? 791 00:50:47,060 --> 00:50:49,659 I want to talk to you about the Donkey Pitch murders. 792 00:50:49,660 --> 00:50:51,339 Why? I don't know anything. 793 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,099 Barely even knew Sophie and Hugo. 794 00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,779 You may know more than you think. 795 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:57,699 Whatever. Ask what you need to ask, I probably don't know the answer. 796 00:50:57,700 --> 00:50:59,979 Well, the whole school was interviewed by the police. 797 00:50:59,980 --> 00:51:01,619 But you had your parents next to you, 798 00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:04,939 so I'm thinking some details may have been omitted. 799 00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:06,540 We went to St Armel's. 800 00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:10,260 We understood the importance of protecting our image. 801 00:51:18,831 --> 00:51:24,139 So what kind of info did you hold back from the police? 802 00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:25,339 What do you think? 803 00:51:25,340 --> 00:51:26,979 We went to raves high. 804 00:51:26,980 --> 00:51:28,580 Drove cars high. 805 00:51:29,660 --> 00:51:31,299 Had lots of date-rapey sex. 806 00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:32,819 Usually sober. 807 00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:35,539 Standard fare adolescent shit we used to put up with, 808 00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:38,979 but we weren't going to talk about that in front of our parents. 809 00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:41,139 Did you ever party with Sophie and Hugo? 810 00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:42,579 With them? 811 00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:43,699 No. 812 00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:45,499 Around them? Maybe once or twice. 813 00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:47,579 Anyway, we didn't talk about raves or drugs. 814 00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:50,059 But only because it had nothing to do with them dying. 815 00:51:50,060 --> 00:51:51,579 Why mention it? 816 00:51:51,580 --> 00:51:53,539 There was this one particular rave. 817 00:51:53,540 --> 00:51:54,939 At Cwm y Groes Abbey. 818 00:51:54,940 --> 00:51:56,739 One that got really out of hand. 819 00:51:56,740 --> 00:51:58,339 That. 820 00:51:58,340 --> 00:52:01,579 Yeah. Broke my foot, so I got stuck talking to the police. 821 00:52:01,580 --> 00:52:03,459 They asked me a bunch of questions 822 00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:06,459 but they already knew pretty much everything I did. 823 00:52:06,460 --> 00:52:08,659 The raves were a regular thing. 824 00:52:08,660 --> 00:52:11,099 Lots of drugs. 825 00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,299 Pot, X, Ket. 826 00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,059 Adderall?Probably. 827 00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:17,299 Who set the whole thing up? 828 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:18,859 Bones. 829 00:52:18,860 --> 00:52:20,219 Bones? 830 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:21,699 That's what we called him.Why? 831 00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:23,899 I think because we thought it was scary. 832 00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:25,740 Anyway, I don't know his real name. 833 00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:29,659 But he threw the raves. 834 00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:31,419 They were like events. 835 00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:33,339 Mad things always happened. 836 00:52:33,340 --> 00:52:34,459 Like what? 837 00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:35,940 Slasher movie stuff. 838 00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:39,539 You know, fake blood, retractable knives. 839 00:52:39,540 --> 00:52:40,820 None of it was real. 840 00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:44,699 The whole point was that he was going to scare us. 841 00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:47,099 But also get us high. 842 00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,460 Bones was like this druggie Freddy Krueger. 843 00:52:51,580 --> 00:52:53,059 We were young. 844 00:52:53,060 --> 00:52:54,459 We thought it was cool. 845 00:52:54,460 --> 00:52:56,260 Were Sophie and Hugo there?Yeah. 846 00:52:57,460 --> 00:52:59,940 They were into it. Especially Sophie. 847 00:53:02,260 --> 00:53:04,860 Look, does Bones actually mean anything? 848 00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:08,620 Like, is he important? 849 00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:11,100 He might be. 850 00:53:24,460 --> 00:53:26,540 You should see this. 851 00:53:37,540 --> 00:53:39,100 What is that? 852 00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:43,660 I don't know. 853 00:53:50,540 --> 00:53:52,860 That is buckshot. 854 00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:57,179 You told me you trapped the fucking thing! 855 00:53:57,180 --> 00:54:01,019 Yeah, well, it might have been shot by someone first. 856 00:54:01,020 --> 00:54:03,740 That's probably how come it was easier for me to catch. 857 00:54:04,940 --> 00:54:06,699 So you lied?Not REALLY. 858 00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:09,219 OK. You were economical with the truth, then? 859 00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:10,659 Does it matter? 860 00:54:10,660 --> 00:54:12,299 I had a lot to set up. 861 00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:14,139 I thought I got it quite good. 862 00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:16,899 It only matters because if someone else shot the fucking thing 863 00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:20,059 before you got to it, they might still be wondering where it is. 864 00:54:20,060 --> 00:54:21,900 Oh.Yeah, "oh". 865 00:54:23,980 --> 00:54:27,339 So your story now, just to be clear, 866 00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:29,419 is that someone else shot the deer 867 00:54:29,420 --> 00:54:33,219 and then it voluntarily wandered into your trap to die? 868 00:54:33,220 --> 00:54:34,420 Right.Right. 869 00:54:35,580 --> 00:54:36,979 What did you cut it with? 870 00:54:36,980 --> 00:54:38,939 What do you mean? It was dead already. 871 00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:40,579 To get the innards out, fuck nuts! 872 00:54:40,580 --> 00:54:41,859 Oh. Yeah. Um... 873 00:54:41,860 --> 00:54:43,900 A knife. From where?The kitchen. 874 00:54:45,180 --> 00:54:47,019 From the wooden block?Yeah. 875 00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:49,579 The wooden block on the kitchen island? 876 00:54:49,580 --> 00:54:50,980 Yeah. From there. 877 00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:55,379 There isn't a wooden block on the kitchen island. 878 00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:57,790 They have one of those magnet strips on the wall. 879 00:54:58,940 --> 00:55:00,499 Uh, yeah... 880 00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:03,580 Inever cut the deer, all right? 881 00:55:04,660 --> 00:55:07,019 I sort of didn't need to. 882 00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:09,779 Tell me exactly what happened. 883 00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:13,499 Right, so, I'd spoken to the housekeeper, Beca. 884 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:15,939 Took care of that, like I was supposed to. 885 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:18,179 Then I was about to do the deer thing, 886 00:55:18,180 --> 00:55:20,779 and I was really nervous because, well... 887 00:55:20,780 --> 00:55:24,459 I'd never really gotten the deer trap to work all the way. 888 00:55:24,460 --> 00:55:26,139 It's really hard to build. 889 00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:30,699 But then, I was driving by the house and I saw something. 890 00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:33,059 It was a deer. And it was dead. 891 00:55:33,060 --> 00:55:35,819 And its insides were in a bucket already. 892 00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:38,500 So I thought, why not just use that? 893 00:55:40,580 --> 00:55:42,779 You found the deer? At this house? 894 00:55:42,780 --> 00:55:44,379 Yeah. Along the drive. 895 00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:48,459 With the bucket and the intestines right next to it? 896 00:55:48,460 --> 00:55:49,779 Yeah. 897 00:55:49,780 --> 00:55:51,659 So I put the carcass in the car, 898 00:55:51,660 --> 00:55:53,739 drove it out into the woods and dumped it. 899 00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:55,939 Then I came back here, used the intestines in the tree, 900 00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:57,779 just like we planned. 901 00:55:57,780 --> 00:55:59,380 Was a bit of luck, really. 902 00:56:00,420 --> 00:56:01,699 Argh! 903 00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,099 Luck?! Argh! 904 00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,510 You don't think that maybe it was a bit strange? 905 00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:10,219 How so?That you were about to do a job, 906 00:56:10,220 --> 00:56:14,659 a really fucking specific job of killing and disembowelling a deer, 907 00:56:14,660 --> 00:56:17,019 and someone had already done it for you?! 908 00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:19,300 Yeah, actually, that IS a bit odd. 909 00:56:26,780 --> 00:56:29,099 No, that one definitely wasn't there 910 00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,819 before. What does it mean? 911 00:56:30,820 --> 00:56:33,140 It means someone is fucking with us. 912 00:56:51,060 --> 00:56:52,820 Have the police seen this?No. 913 00:56:54,380 --> 00:56:56,180 I had no reason to show them. 914 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,779 I mean, you caught the guy who killed Sophie and Hugo, right? 915 00:57:28,780 --> 00:57:32,380 Right? Right? Right? 916 00:57:32,430 --> 00:57:36,980 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 65836

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