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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,178 --> 00:00:13,098 [soft eerie music] 2 00:00:13,098 --> 00:00:20,105 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:20,105 --> 00:00:22,482 - I had been, in total hon-- 4 00:00:22,482 --> 00:00:23,817 called to the office a couple times 5 00:00:23,817 --> 00:00:26,194 over "relationships with students." 6 00:00:26,194 --> 00:00:27,904 And-- - For what specifically? 7 00:00:27,904 --> 00:00:29,447 - No, just the classic. 8 00:00:29,447 --> 00:00:30,699 It was the, you know, 9 00:00:30,699 --> 00:00:32,867 "girl hanging out in your room," meal time, 10 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:34,786 That kind of stuff. 11 00:00:34,786 --> 00:00:36,913 You know, and I'm just like, "If you wanna investigate me, 12 00:00:36,913 --> 00:00:39,499 investigate me. Please." 13 00:00:39,499 --> 00:00:46,423 ♪ ♪ 14 00:00:53,430 --> 00:00:54,931 - Okay. 15 00:00:59,477 --> 00:01:03,732 What's public information is he's under investigation 16 00:01:03,732 --> 00:01:08,528 on the TEA website for misconduct with a student. 17 00:01:08,528 --> 00:01:10,447 We don't know what happened, 18 00:01:10,447 --> 00:01:12,616 and I don't know when we will know what happened. 19 00:01:12,616 --> 00:01:15,285 - He sat down with us. 20 00:01:15,285 --> 00:01:17,829 He's been talking to us about this. 21 00:01:17,829 --> 00:01:21,166 You told him, and we've had conversations 22 00:01:21,166 --> 00:01:23,168 about grooming, inappropriate relationships, 23 00:01:23,168 --> 00:01:24,794 all of this stuff for... - Yeah. 24 00:01:24,794 --> 00:01:26,171 - A long time. 25 00:01:26,171 --> 00:01:27,964 For me, it's pretty simple. 26 00:01:27,964 --> 00:01:31,426 Are these-- is all this stuff true? 27 00:01:31,426 --> 00:01:33,345 Like the--are these real? 28 00:01:33,345 --> 00:01:36,723 Are these real text messages between you and this student? 29 00:01:39,059 --> 00:01:41,102 And what were you thinking? 30 00:01:42,562 --> 00:01:46,107 - I'm just tying myself into knots about this. 31 00:01:46,107 --> 00:01:48,318 - I can't help but think about 32 00:01:48,318 --> 00:01:51,279 the girl on the other end of these allegations... 33 00:01:51,279 --> 00:01:53,740 ♪ ♪ 34 00:01:53,740 --> 00:01:56,785 Given the whole process that we've gone through. 35 00:01:56,785 --> 00:01:59,371 Everybody who we've met along this journey who's had-- 36 00:01:59,371 --> 00:02:00,872 who's been in her shoes. 37 00:02:00,872 --> 00:02:01,998 I'm thinking about you. 38 00:02:01,998 --> 00:02:03,083 I'm thinking about Heaven. 39 00:02:03,083 --> 00:02:06,711 I'm thinking about Alisson. 40 00:02:06,711 --> 00:02:08,505 Yeah, personally, I would not feel good 41 00:02:08,505 --> 00:02:10,090 if we didn't do our due diligence around this 42 00:02:10,090 --> 00:02:13,718 just because of knowing how this cycle continues 43 00:02:13,718 --> 00:02:17,263 is by people not getting to the bottom of it 44 00:02:17,263 --> 00:02:18,765 and not exposing it. - Yep. 45 00:02:18,765 --> 00:02:20,684 - And I'm not gonna contribute to that. 46 00:02:20,684 --> 00:02:22,894 And that's, like, what I keep coming back to 47 00:02:22,894 --> 00:02:25,355 with this Tom thing. 48 00:02:25,355 --> 00:02:26,356 You know? 49 00:02:26,356 --> 00:02:28,191 - [sighs] 50 00:02:28,191 --> 00:02:32,612 ♪ ♪ 51 00:02:38,201 --> 00:02:41,746 - I made the stupid-ass decision of actually caring. 52 00:02:41,746 --> 00:02:45,166 Kids knew that they were safe, 53 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:47,752 that they could come and talk to me about anything. 54 00:02:47,752 --> 00:02:49,838 It was all done with doors open 55 00:02:49,838 --> 00:02:53,049 and they told me that I was being insubordinate 56 00:02:53,049 --> 00:02:56,845 by not following procedures, which I don't quite understand. 57 00:02:56,845 --> 00:03:01,224 But I just felt like I was used an example 58 00:03:01,224 --> 00:03:03,393 all of a sudden. Done. 59 00:03:03,393 --> 00:03:06,938 Districts have become over reactionary 60 00:03:06,938 --> 00:03:10,442 and the fact that I'm being singled out 61 00:03:10,442 --> 00:03:11,985 is kind of painful. 62 00:03:11,985 --> 00:03:18,283 For me, grooming is a willful intention 63 00:03:18,283 --> 00:03:23,246 to drag the student into a more intimate relationship. 64 00:03:23,246 --> 00:03:25,790 You know, "Can I see you?" 65 00:03:25,790 --> 00:03:27,667 It could be sending an image. 66 00:03:27,667 --> 00:03:30,295 It could be, you know, an inappropriate text, 67 00:03:30,295 --> 00:03:33,506 if you try to instigate private meetings, 68 00:03:33,506 --> 00:03:36,593 "Send me a picture of you," 69 00:03:36,593 --> 00:03:38,428 "Oh, my God, that looks hot," 70 00:03:38,428 --> 00:03:40,763 wanting to talk off-hours-- 71 00:03:40,763 --> 00:03:42,640 that kind of stuff. 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,017 To me, that would be an instance 73 00:03:44,017 --> 00:03:46,311 of definite grooming. 74 00:03:46,311 --> 00:03:50,440 ♪ ♪ 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,902 - So we saw some posts on social media about 76 00:03:53,902 --> 00:03:57,238 purported to be texts between you and a student. 77 00:03:57,238 --> 00:03:58,364 - Mm-hmm. - I don't know 78 00:03:58,364 --> 00:04:00,533 if those were accurate, 79 00:04:00,533 --> 00:04:02,785 if they were those texts or if they were-- 80 00:04:02,785 --> 00:04:04,204 what context they were given in. 81 00:04:04,204 --> 00:04:06,289 Do you have-- have you seen those? 82 00:04:06,289 --> 00:04:07,707 - Yes, I have. 83 00:04:07,707 --> 00:04:08,875 - Were those texts that were between 84 00:04:08,875 --> 00:04:10,585 you and a student? 85 00:04:10,585 --> 00:04:11,628 - Yes, they were. 86 00:04:11,628 --> 00:04:14,547 ♪ ♪ 87 00:04:14,547 --> 00:04:17,592 I think that what the main problem they had with it 88 00:04:17,592 --> 00:04:19,636 is they don't understand the way 89 00:04:19,636 --> 00:04:21,304 that the Spanish language works. 90 00:04:21,304 --> 00:04:24,182 There is two different ways to say, you know-- 91 00:04:24,182 --> 00:04:27,811 you know, "Love you, have a great day, fantastic." 92 00:04:27,811 --> 00:04:31,022 You know, there's te quiero, which is basically used 93 00:04:31,022 --> 00:04:33,316 in front of family and friends. 94 00:04:33,316 --> 00:04:36,569 You know, I say that to all my former students. 95 00:04:36,569 --> 00:04:38,363 Te quiero. And there's the te amo, 96 00:04:38,363 --> 00:04:43,409 which is--that's a bit serious, and you don't want to do that, 97 00:04:43,409 --> 00:04:46,204 um, in any way, shape, or form. 98 00:04:46,204 --> 00:04:49,999 So for me, all those texts that I had--that I'd sent 99 00:04:49,999 --> 00:04:52,544 this particular student, 100 00:04:52,544 --> 00:04:54,379 were basically support. 101 00:04:54,379 --> 00:04:55,797 "Hey, nice hair. 102 00:04:55,797 --> 00:04:58,550 Love the change of hair. Fantastic." 103 00:04:58,550 --> 00:05:01,386 In retrospect, yeah, probably shouldn't have sent them. 104 00:05:01,386 --> 00:05:03,513 But at the same time, any kind of support 105 00:05:03,513 --> 00:05:06,099 I would've be able to give them, 106 00:05:06,099 --> 00:05:07,559 I don't regret that. 107 00:05:07,559 --> 00:05:09,769 ♪ ♪ 108 00:05:09,769 --> 00:05:12,188 - If my daughter was getting those text messages 109 00:05:12,188 --> 00:05:14,274 from a teacher, 110 00:05:14,274 --> 00:05:17,026 I would be at the school that same day. 111 00:05:17,026 --> 00:05:18,152 Period. 112 00:05:18,152 --> 00:05:19,904 End of story. 113 00:05:19,904 --> 00:05:21,906 Yeah, no, I don't believe him. 114 00:05:21,906 --> 00:05:23,741 I don't believe him. 115 00:05:23,741 --> 00:05:25,535 I can't believe him. 116 00:05:25,535 --> 00:05:29,789 The story with Tom has this greater kind of arc 117 00:05:29,789 --> 00:05:33,501 of not understanding where the line is 118 00:05:33,501 --> 00:05:36,337 and kind of placing the blame on everybody else 119 00:05:36,337 --> 00:05:37,964 because he's not being able to teach 120 00:05:37,964 --> 00:05:40,258 in the way that he wants to teach. 121 00:05:40,258 --> 00:05:43,303 ♪ ♪ 122 00:05:58,776 --> 00:06:00,904 [light clattering] [beep] 123 00:06:03,948 --> 00:06:04,908 [clattering] 124 00:06:06,409 --> 00:06:08,953 - We've been together for 4 1/2 years now. 125 00:06:08,953 --> 00:06:10,788 I already know, like, that is my life partner. 126 00:06:10,788 --> 00:06:13,374 You know, we are married in our heads, 127 00:06:13,374 --> 00:06:16,461 even though it hasn't happened in life yet. 128 00:06:16,461 --> 00:06:21,799 Heaven is the sweetest person I know. 129 00:06:21,799 --> 00:06:23,384 You know, she's often described as, you know, 130 00:06:23,384 --> 00:06:25,511 like a ray of sunshine and I feel like 131 00:06:25,511 --> 00:06:27,221 that is the true Heaven. 132 00:06:27,221 --> 00:06:30,141 At her core she is just so sweet and loving. 133 00:06:30,141 --> 00:06:33,853 But then no one sees the hours she spends in bed 134 00:06:33,853 --> 00:06:36,105 just, like, crying because there is so much-- 135 00:06:36,105 --> 00:06:38,358 or she feels like everything is on her 136 00:06:38,358 --> 00:06:39,943 and she is constantly double-checking 137 00:06:39,943 --> 00:06:42,403 and second-guessing every move that she makes. 138 00:06:42,403 --> 00:06:45,448 She doesn't expect to be believed. 139 00:06:45,448 --> 00:06:48,493 She comes prepared with every single thing 140 00:06:48,493 --> 00:06:52,664 I need to explain to make sure that you are going to trust me 141 00:06:52,664 --> 00:06:54,332 because that is what everyone else showed her 142 00:06:54,332 --> 00:06:55,833 she needed to do. 143 00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:57,502 It feels like it would be chaos 144 00:06:57,502 --> 00:06:59,671 to be in Heaven's head. 145 00:06:59,671 --> 00:07:04,092 [soft sentimental music] 146 00:07:04,092 --> 00:07:05,510 - The teachers had-- 147 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:07,804 [inhales, exhales] 148 00:07:07,804 --> 00:07:09,972 ♪ ♪ 149 00:07:09,972 --> 00:07:13,226 The teachers and the administration 150 00:07:13,226 --> 00:07:16,187 at my high school really made me feel like it was my fault, 151 00:07:16,187 --> 00:07:18,147 and they played a role 152 00:07:18,147 --> 00:07:21,859 in, like, that psychological, like-- 153 00:07:21,859 --> 00:07:24,195 where you can't trust yourself 154 00:07:24,195 --> 00:07:26,489 because you're like, "Did I do something wrong?" 155 00:07:26,489 --> 00:07:28,825 Like, it took me years to understand 156 00:07:28,825 --> 00:07:33,413 that the stuff he had said to me to... 157 00:07:33,413 --> 00:07:35,540 make me trust him, 158 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:37,792 the "advice" that he was giving me, 159 00:07:37,792 --> 00:07:41,170 was to have me under his wing so that I would trust him, 160 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:42,171 so that... 161 00:07:42,171 --> 00:07:44,966 ♪ ♪ 162 00:07:44,966 --> 00:07:48,219 He could get to know what he needed to know about me 163 00:07:48,219 --> 00:07:51,013 to manipulate me, to groom me. 164 00:07:51,013 --> 00:07:55,518 ♪ ♪ 165 00:07:55,518 --> 00:07:58,146 There were just-- there were just a few things 166 00:07:58,146 --> 00:08:00,565 that I feel like now looking back on it, 167 00:08:00,565 --> 00:08:02,483 it was right in my face. 168 00:08:02,483 --> 00:08:05,737 With what I know now, I just think 169 00:08:05,737 --> 00:08:07,321 he had a motive 170 00:08:07,321 --> 00:08:12,243 and he was willing to do what it took to get his way. 171 00:08:31,095 --> 00:08:35,016 [soft foreboding music] 172 00:08:35,016 --> 00:08:37,018 - The first comment that I can remember 173 00:08:37,018 --> 00:08:39,145 that was, like, off was-- 174 00:08:39,145 --> 00:08:40,605 I was leaving one day 175 00:08:40,605 --> 00:08:43,733 and he kind of, like, leaned back in his chair 176 00:08:43,733 --> 00:08:45,318 and was just kind of, like, looking at me 177 00:08:45,318 --> 00:08:47,195 and was like, "I really like you." 178 00:08:47,195 --> 00:08:48,988 And I was like, "Thanks." 179 00:08:48,988 --> 00:08:51,991 Like, "I like you too. Like, cool. 180 00:08:51,991 --> 00:08:54,035 This class is awesome." 181 00:08:54,035 --> 00:08:56,829 And he said, "No, I'm serious. I mean, I like-like you." 182 00:08:56,829 --> 00:09:02,710 ♪ ♪ 183 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:04,253 And so I didn't really think anything of it. 184 00:09:04,253 --> 00:09:05,922 I just kept going on. 185 00:09:05,922 --> 00:09:07,340 And then there was another time 186 00:09:07,340 --> 00:09:10,051 where he'd said, you know, 187 00:09:10,051 --> 00:09:12,261 "I don't know if I've told you this before, 188 00:09:12,261 --> 00:09:14,430 but I struggle with insomnia." 189 00:09:14,430 --> 00:09:15,598 And he said, "And you know, 190 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:16,849 "when the school year starts again, 191 00:09:16,849 --> 00:09:19,060 "that sometimes can ramp up, 192 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:21,020 "and I have, like, a problem with my insomnia, 193 00:09:21,020 --> 00:09:23,606 "but I haven't been feeling that way 194 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:26,859 since we started working together." 195 00:09:27,735 --> 00:09:29,904 - Something about the admiration in his eyes 196 00:09:29,904 --> 00:09:32,615 as I was childlike seemed comforting. 197 00:09:32,615 --> 00:09:34,367 Rarely was I rewarded with kindness 198 00:09:34,367 --> 00:09:36,828 in moments of childlike behavior. 199 00:09:36,828 --> 00:09:38,913 I remember being conditioned to grow up 200 00:09:38,913 --> 00:09:41,624 before I knew what growing up meant. 201 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:43,084 It made us closer. 202 00:09:44,335 --> 00:09:46,629 He coached me through some of this pain, 203 00:09:46,629 --> 00:09:48,381 opened portal to poetry 204 00:09:48,381 --> 00:09:52,802 that allowed me to make friends with pen and page. 205 00:09:52,802 --> 00:09:57,181 I felt he was mentoring me by sharing common experiences 206 00:09:57,181 --> 00:09:58,891 or giving me advice of, like, 207 00:09:58,891 --> 00:10:00,184 "This won't hurt you for so long. 208 00:10:00,184 --> 00:10:02,395 "You'll be able to move away and go to college 209 00:10:02,395 --> 00:10:04,939 "and, like, you'll start to shape your life and these-- 210 00:10:04,939 --> 00:10:06,941 "you know, the stress that you're feeling right now 211 00:10:06,941 --> 00:10:09,402 won't be forever," and so I felt like 212 00:10:09,402 --> 00:10:11,529 I was getting a benefit in that. 213 00:10:11,529 --> 00:10:16,492 ♪ ♪ 214 00:10:16,492 --> 00:10:17,785 He said, "Bring me everything you've written 215 00:10:17,785 --> 00:10:19,328 in the last year." 216 00:10:19,328 --> 00:10:22,790 And a lot of it was, like, gushy and emotional 217 00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:26,961 and, like, very embarrassing if I had to read it now. 218 00:10:26,961 --> 00:10:29,755 He said, "You know, your work, it's really immature." 219 00:10:29,755 --> 00:10:33,467 And I was surprised and a little disappointed. 220 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:37,889 I went from being good enough that you invited me in 221 00:10:37,889 --> 00:10:40,808 to now I'm immature. 222 00:10:40,808 --> 00:10:43,311 So I kind of, like, put that on myself 223 00:10:43,311 --> 00:10:46,689 of, like, what can I do to be better? 224 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:49,233 I had been writing a poem where I felt like 225 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:52,111 a boy I had a crush on didn't like me back. 226 00:10:52,111 --> 00:10:55,156 He's like, "So you're feeling disconnected from this person 227 00:10:55,156 --> 00:10:57,783 "that you're trying to connect with, 228 00:10:57,783 --> 00:11:01,329 "and sex is like a really intimate thing, 229 00:11:01,329 --> 00:11:03,497 and, like, can we maybe write about that?" 230 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:06,000 I did not write about those kinds of things. 231 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,336 I didn't really talk about those kinds of things. 232 00:11:08,336 --> 00:11:10,671 ♪ ♪ 233 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:14,675 And so he gives me this example. 234 00:11:14,675 --> 00:11:16,928 And he says, you know, "I wrote this last night. 235 00:11:16,928 --> 00:11:18,721 I was thinking about you." 236 00:11:18,721 --> 00:11:23,100 And he'd written a line about lips to lips 237 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:25,102 creating like a double entendre 238 00:11:25,102 --> 00:11:27,772 of lips on your face 239 00:11:27,772 --> 00:11:29,899 and lips on... 240 00:11:29,899 --> 00:11:35,071 ♪ ♪ 241 00:11:35,071 --> 00:11:37,240 One day he was like, "You can come sit over here 242 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,992 by my desk," and he was like, "You can sit closer." 243 00:11:39,992 --> 00:11:42,328 I was standing and he stood up 244 00:11:42,328 --> 00:11:44,997 and he put his hands on my face. 245 00:11:44,997 --> 00:11:49,377 And, you know, I said no. 246 00:11:49,377 --> 00:11:53,798 Um, not very loudly, 247 00:11:53,798 --> 00:11:56,259 but I was uncomfortable. 248 00:11:56,259 --> 00:11:58,803 ♪ ♪ 249 00:11:58,803 --> 00:12:01,764 And he kissed me. 250 00:12:01,764 --> 00:12:05,476 And that's kind of what started, like, 251 00:12:05,476 --> 00:12:09,438 a slew of other inappropriate 252 00:12:09,438 --> 00:12:15,194 and very manipulative and exploitive behavior. 253 00:12:15,194 --> 00:12:22,201 ♪ ♪ 254 00:12:22,201 --> 00:12:24,787 I did things 255 00:12:24,787 --> 00:12:28,249 that I did not feel comfortable doing. 256 00:12:28,249 --> 00:12:31,252 The reason why I didn't scream or run 257 00:12:31,252 --> 00:12:36,424 or tell someone immediately is because... 258 00:12:36,424 --> 00:12:41,846 when he would ask, you know, "Can you go down on me?"... 259 00:12:41,846 --> 00:12:44,223 ♪ ♪ 260 00:12:44,223 --> 00:12:47,226 It was after an argument 261 00:12:47,226 --> 00:12:51,230 where he had said that I was ungrateful, 262 00:12:51,230 --> 00:12:55,026 that I didn't value the time and effort 263 00:12:55,026 --> 00:12:58,487 and... 264 00:12:58,487 --> 00:13:02,408 energy that he put into helping me. 265 00:13:02,408 --> 00:13:05,411 [sniffs] You know, I was scared that if I said something, 266 00:13:05,411 --> 00:13:07,496 I was going to ruin someone's life 267 00:13:07,496 --> 00:13:09,582 who maybe cared about me, 268 00:13:09,582 --> 00:13:12,126 and at that time, I was certain that he cared. 269 00:13:13,210 --> 00:13:15,004 His cold hands. 270 00:13:15,004 --> 00:13:17,048 The sharpness in his voice. 271 00:13:17,048 --> 00:13:19,717 My isolation. 272 00:13:19,717 --> 00:13:23,262 And during that time, I just didn't know what to do. 273 00:13:23,262 --> 00:13:29,602 Like, way too much for a 17-year-old to carry. 274 00:13:31,812 --> 00:13:35,858 The anxiety, like, really started to kick in. 275 00:13:35,858 --> 00:13:39,028 I was having trouble keeping food down. 276 00:13:39,028 --> 00:13:42,073 I really wasn't eating very much, 277 00:13:42,073 --> 00:13:44,408 not sleeping very much. 278 00:13:44,408 --> 00:13:48,704 He had told me, you know, "Nobody can know," 279 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:51,582 and so I was pushing my friends away. 280 00:13:51,582 --> 00:13:56,045 And so this world that I had worked so hard to create, 281 00:13:56,045 --> 00:13:59,131 where I had had friends 282 00:13:59,131 --> 00:14:02,301 and things I was interested in doing... 283 00:14:02,301 --> 00:14:04,470 all of those things went away 284 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:08,099 because of the pressure and the guilt 285 00:14:08,099 --> 00:14:14,772 and the restrictions that he made me feel like 286 00:14:14,772 --> 00:14:16,982 would benefit me if I did them. 287 00:14:16,982 --> 00:14:21,112 If--if you don't tell, then, like... 288 00:14:21,112 --> 00:14:23,114 things are gonna be okay. 289 00:14:24,615 --> 00:14:26,200 And so I just went along. 290 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,286 I tried to follow the rules as best as I could. 291 00:14:32,206 --> 00:14:34,792 But once he was gone, after we'd been physical, 292 00:14:34,792 --> 00:14:37,378 he was everywhere, lingering inside of me 293 00:14:37,378 --> 00:14:40,965 and I wanted to itch him off my skin. 294 00:14:40,965 --> 00:14:43,926 [eerie music] 295 00:14:43,926 --> 00:14:46,971 ♪ ♪ 296 00:14:46,971 --> 00:14:49,014 - Where can you go? 297 00:14:49,014 --> 00:14:50,766 Those are the people you're around 298 00:14:50,766 --> 00:14:52,643 eight hours a day. 299 00:14:52,643 --> 00:14:54,937 Everybody condones this authority 300 00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:56,772 that these men have over you, right? 301 00:14:56,772 --> 00:15:00,776 I'm being told by everybody that these men 302 00:15:00,776 --> 00:15:02,528 who are my teachers 303 00:15:02,528 --> 00:15:04,488 are the ones who are in charge of me. 304 00:15:04,488 --> 00:15:07,658 That power dynamic, in a way, is almost ultimate 305 00:15:07,658 --> 00:15:10,244 because everyone around you is telling you 306 00:15:10,244 --> 00:15:12,204 to trust these people. 307 00:15:12,204 --> 00:15:16,458 I was sort of bred to be this person. 308 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,502 - So if you took sort of the culture of Texas 309 00:15:18,502 --> 00:15:22,506 and you sort of concentrated it down to something, 310 00:15:22,506 --> 00:15:24,466 it was Little Elm. Very small. 311 00:15:24,466 --> 00:15:27,344 I think there were 2,500 people when I graduated high school 312 00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:31,640 in the town. It was run by white men. 313 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,311 Having your education guided by white men 314 00:15:35,311 --> 00:15:41,192 and predominantly taught by white men, 315 00:15:41,192 --> 00:15:44,904 having women's sports teams run by white men, 316 00:15:44,904 --> 00:15:49,700 definitely gave the impression and the idea 317 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:51,577 that white men were superior. 318 00:15:51,577 --> 00:15:55,998 And when you have a society culture 319 00:15:55,998 --> 00:15:59,418 where white men are sort of ruling and in charge, 320 00:15:59,418 --> 00:16:01,545 it creates an environment 321 00:16:01,545 --> 00:16:03,380 that's not safe for anyone else, 322 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,883 certainly not safe for women and girls, 323 00:16:05,883 --> 00:16:07,801 certainly not safe for people of color, 324 00:16:07,801 --> 00:16:10,095 certainly not safe for people who are different. 325 00:16:28,614 --> 00:16:30,199 [soft melancholic music] 326 00:16:30,199 --> 00:16:35,204 - I had told my friend that things were going on 327 00:16:35,204 --> 00:16:39,333 and she had said, "This makes me really uncomfortable. 328 00:16:39,333 --> 00:16:44,088 Do what you wanna do, but, like, I can't handle this." 329 00:16:44,088 --> 00:16:46,048 And my best friend at the time, 330 00:16:46,048 --> 00:16:49,093 her mom decided to call the police. 331 00:16:49,093 --> 00:16:53,472 And so I was pulled out of my fifth period. 332 00:16:53,472 --> 00:16:56,517 And the police walk in and I'm sitting there thinking like, 333 00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:58,560 "Oh, my God, I know what that is." 334 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,981 And so the police, you know, they bring me upstairs 335 00:17:01,981 --> 00:17:04,566 into their resource officer room 336 00:17:04,566 --> 00:17:08,279 and they start asking me questions 337 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:11,407 and I denied it, um, 338 00:17:11,407 --> 00:17:13,492 until they said, "This is happening 339 00:17:13,492 --> 00:17:16,412 to other people, and we know it." 340 00:17:16,412 --> 00:17:19,498 And, like, a switch went off. 341 00:17:19,498 --> 00:17:21,959 There were so many other people 342 00:17:21,959 --> 00:17:25,379 that felt that Mr. Meyers had been inappropriate with them. 343 00:17:25,379 --> 00:17:27,840 You know, some of my close friends 344 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,594 that had said he had abused them as well 345 00:17:31,594 --> 00:17:36,932 and I'm thinking, "How was he abusing the both of us 346 00:17:36,932 --> 00:17:42,187 and we're sitting diagonal from one another in class?" 347 00:17:42,187 --> 00:17:45,065 And then I was faced with watching the news media 348 00:17:45,065 --> 00:17:47,359 broadcast the arrest and seeing his picture 349 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,654 and my story in such a public way. 350 00:17:50,654 --> 00:17:53,115 - 40-year-old Jason Meyers has been arrested. 351 00:17:53,115 --> 00:17:55,200 - Palmetto High School teacher is behind bars. 352 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,453 Jason Meyers is charged with sexual battery. 353 00:17:57,453 --> 00:17:59,538 - Meyers accused of having sex with a student. 354 00:17:59,538 --> 00:18:02,291 - A teacher who is accused of sex crimes. 355 00:18:02,291 --> 00:18:04,209 - I was also very upset 356 00:18:04,209 --> 00:18:06,128 when I saw they said my initials. 357 00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:07,588 - Okay, so he's, uh... 358 00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:09,256 [indistinct chatter] 359 00:18:09,256 --> 00:18:11,300 Alleged to have committed a sexual battery 360 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:12,676 on a minor by an adult. 361 00:18:12,676 --> 00:18:14,053 Let me take a look at this. 362 00:18:14,053 --> 00:18:16,180 The minor has initials H. R. 363 00:18:16,180 --> 00:18:18,557 - Following his arrest, 364 00:18:18,557 --> 00:18:23,062 reporters showed up at my house... 365 00:18:23,062 --> 00:18:28,609 followed my dad on his route to work. 366 00:18:28,609 --> 00:18:30,986 You know, and they come and they bang on the door, 367 00:18:30,986 --> 00:18:32,363 and you don't know what's going on. 368 00:18:32,363 --> 00:18:35,115 You open it and people are just screaming questions 369 00:18:35,115 --> 00:18:38,786 at you and I remember crying. 370 00:18:38,786 --> 00:18:40,371 By the time I was back at school, 371 00:18:40,371 --> 00:18:41,955 everyone knew that it was me. 372 00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:46,460 My world was falling apart, and... 373 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:48,295 I have to go back to school 374 00:18:48,295 --> 00:18:50,506 because I still need to get into college 375 00:18:50,506 --> 00:18:53,300 and life needs to have some sense of normalcy. 376 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:57,179 ♪ ♪ 377 00:18:57,179 --> 00:19:01,767 And I have my teacher, and I sit down 378 00:19:01,767 --> 00:19:03,644 and she starts talking about 379 00:19:03,644 --> 00:19:07,481 "The girls involved with this are lying." 380 00:19:07,481 --> 00:19:10,526 Jason Meyers is a great teacher. 381 00:19:10,526 --> 00:19:13,404 He's a great man. 382 00:19:13,404 --> 00:19:17,366 Very, very quickly it was this culture of, like, 383 00:19:17,366 --> 00:19:19,868 he's with us 384 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:23,455 and you're not. 385 00:19:23,455 --> 00:19:26,333 [exhales] 386 00:19:27,751 --> 00:19:30,045 [dark unsettling music] 387 00:19:30,045 --> 00:19:33,382 - Nobody knows why there's such a huge protection 388 00:19:33,382 --> 00:19:35,259 with Jason Meyers. 389 00:19:35,259 --> 00:19:37,428 Once a teacher gets arrested, 390 00:19:37,428 --> 00:19:41,014 it has to go to the Department of Education in Tallahassee 391 00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:42,808 for a licensure investigation, 392 00:19:42,808 --> 00:19:45,602 and nothing was done in Tallahassee 393 00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:46,603 with Jason Meyers. 394 00:19:46,603 --> 00:19:47,896 I don't know why. 395 00:19:47,896 --> 00:19:51,358 In 2016, '17, '18, '19, and '20, 396 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:53,402 his license wasn't even touched. 397 00:19:53,402 --> 00:19:56,029 ♪ ♪ 398 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:58,574 Parents have come out to the school board meetings 399 00:19:58,574 --> 00:20:01,160 to talk about the school district's penchant 400 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,287 for not caring. 401 00:20:03,287 --> 00:20:07,124 - There have been teachers who have committed sexual crimes 402 00:20:07,124 --> 00:20:08,917 on our children, and I want to know why 403 00:20:08,917 --> 00:20:11,128 these teachers are being protected 404 00:20:11,128 --> 00:20:13,464 and not being held accountable. 405 00:20:13,464 --> 00:20:15,841 - This is a real issue. 406 00:20:15,841 --> 00:20:18,469 You have kids who are out of the system, 407 00:20:18,469 --> 00:20:19,970 and five years later, they're waiting 408 00:20:19,970 --> 00:20:22,598 to see their abuser in court. 409 00:20:22,598 --> 00:20:24,892 You guys allow this. 410 00:20:24,892 --> 00:20:26,852 You should be ashamed of yourself. 411 00:20:26,852 --> 00:20:33,734 ♪ ♪ 412 00:20:35,652 --> 00:20:38,739 - It's unacceptable, and it's gotta change. 413 00:20:38,739 --> 00:20:41,283 So we filed a lawsuit under Title IX 414 00:20:41,283 --> 00:20:44,369 to hold the school board accountable 415 00:20:44,369 --> 00:20:47,331 for failing to do its job. 416 00:20:47,331 --> 00:20:48,999 It wasn't to just chase the money, 417 00:20:48,999 --> 00:20:50,417 just get the quick settlement, 418 00:20:50,417 --> 00:20:52,419 and let them sweep it under the rug. 419 00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:57,341 It was to get the point across that the system is broken. 420 00:20:57,341 --> 00:20:59,134 I don't think the school board ever thought 421 00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,887 we would see it through. 422 00:21:01,887 --> 00:21:03,931 I think they thought that they could throw money 423 00:21:03,931 --> 00:21:05,474 at the problem and it would go away. 424 00:21:24,993 --> 00:21:26,912 [somber music] 425 00:21:26,912 --> 00:21:31,500 - The civil case happened in fall of 2021. 426 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:34,419 - The news media followed the case considerably. 427 00:21:35,921 --> 00:21:37,714 - It's a teacher sex case. 428 00:21:37,714 --> 00:21:41,009 - What did Miami-Dade school district leaders know? 429 00:21:41,009 --> 00:21:42,970 - The school got a warning about Meyers 430 00:21:42,970 --> 00:21:44,930 years before his arrest. 431 00:21:44,930 --> 00:21:46,306 - Meyers' former student 432 00:21:46,306 --> 00:21:47,766 has already filed a lawsuit. 433 00:21:47,766 --> 00:21:49,268 - The student has filed suit. 434 00:21:49,268 --> 00:21:51,895 - She is Jane Doe in a lawsuit 435 00:21:51,895 --> 00:21:54,231 filed against the Miami-Dade school board. 436 00:21:54,231 --> 00:21:56,108 - Suing the school board was really difficult 437 00:21:56,108 --> 00:21:59,278 because it was me versus them. 438 00:21:59,278 --> 00:22:03,115 It wasn't the state versus Meyers. 439 00:22:03,115 --> 00:22:06,159 And so they were going to attack me, 440 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,995 and they did. 441 00:22:07,995 --> 00:22:10,038 They victim blame. 442 00:22:10,038 --> 00:22:12,332 They say, "Well, here are all of the other things 443 00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:14,001 "that were wrong. 444 00:22:14,001 --> 00:22:15,711 Wasn't us." 445 00:22:15,711 --> 00:22:19,006 - They would go to any length to avoid accountability, 446 00:22:19,006 --> 00:22:21,466 and so they threw money at the problem 447 00:22:21,466 --> 00:22:24,469 by hiring so-called experts 448 00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:28,098 to support their theory of defense. 449 00:22:28,098 --> 00:22:31,977 They also had a psychologist, Dr. Shelia Rapa, 450 00:22:31,977 --> 00:22:34,938 who evaluated Heaven. 451 00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:39,526 Dr. Rapa was adamant that she was not traumatized 452 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:41,820 in any way and did not suffer 453 00:22:41,820 --> 00:22:44,489 from any sort of mental health disorder. 454 00:22:44,489 --> 00:22:47,409 The other attack they're making 455 00:22:47,409 --> 00:22:50,162 is social media posts. 456 00:22:50,162 --> 00:22:53,165 They thought that would support their theory 457 00:22:53,165 --> 00:22:55,751 that she's doing fine, that she's not damaged, 458 00:22:55,751 --> 00:22:58,545 just like their experts said. 459 00:22:58,545 --> 00:23:01,340 - It was just a really ridiculous, comical thing, 460 00:23:01,340 --> 00:23:03,884 honestly, to us, because they just tried so hard 461 00:23:03,884 --> 00:23:08,055 to paint that narrative using social media. 462 00:23:08,055 --> 00:23:10,599 - We are in the misogynist culture 463 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:13,769 where women, if they're not believed, 464 00:23:13,769 --> 00:23:17,147 then, you know, why would you believe a teenager, especially? 465 00:23:17,147 --> 00:23:19,066 You know, there's something ageist about this too 466 00:23:19,066 --> 00:23:20,943 that they couldn't know what's happening 467 00:23:20,943 --> 00:23:22,361 or what did they do to contribute 468 00:23:22,361 --> 00:23:23,403 to that situation? 469 00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:27,115 ♪ ♪ 470 00:23:27,115 --> 00:23:30,369 - People were victim blaming me. 471 00:23:30,369 --> 00:23:31,787 There's been a lot of that. 472 00:23:31,787 --> 00:23:34,623 But I think I was the number one perpetrator 473 00:23:34,623 --> 00:23:36,959 of the victim blaming. 474 00:23:36,959 --> 00:23:39,753 I was the person who did wrong, 475 00:23:39,753 --> 00:23:41,964 and then I was the person that could take responsibility 476 00:23:41,964 --> 00:23:43,507 for it, and so in a way, 477 00:23:43,507 --> 00:23:46,134 I was taking responsibility for everybody 478 00:23:46,134 --> 00:23:48,220 so that I could make it okay. 479 00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:51,181 - It's just so sad, honestly, 480 00:23:51,181 --> 00:23:55,769 and it just ruins so many girls' confidence 481 00:23:55,769 --> 00:24:00,107 and it's a lot of unlearning for a lot of people. 482 00:24:00,107 --> 00:24:02,693 You start that guilt cycle so early. 483 00:24:02,693 --> 00:24:04,653 It's really hard as an adult to come out of that. 484 00:24:04,653 --> 00:24:06,363 No matter how much therapy you get, 485 00:24:06,363 --> 00:24:08,907 sometimes that guilt and shame just lives inside you. 486 00:24:08,907 --> 00:24:15,789 ♪ ♪ 487 00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:26,216 - It's hard for me to talk about... 488 00:24:26,216 --> 00:24:30,178 ♪ ♪ 489 00:24:30,178 --> 00:24:34,474 The sex...that happened. 490 00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:39,563 ♪ ♪ 491 00:24:39,563 --> 00:24:44,818 I feel a lot of, like, shame and guilt around that. 492 00:24:44,818 --> 00:24:48,530 And the defense team has kind of, like, 493 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:51,742 really pushed to reinforce this, like, 494 00:24:51,742 --> 00:24:53,577 "Well, you could've screamed. 495 00:24:53,577 --> 00:24:55,495 "You could've ran away. 496 00:24:55,495 --> 00:24:58,331 You could have told someone immediately." 497 00:24:58,331 --> 00:25:02,127 - He gradually progressed the sexual activity. 498 00:25:02,127 --> 00:25:05,297 There were instances of fellatio, 499 00:25:05,297 --> 00:25:08,800 cunnilingus, and sexual intercourse 500 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,346 inside the classroom, behind the closed door, 501 00:25:13,346 --> 00:25:15,474 right under the school board's noses. 502 00:25:15,474 --> 00:25:18,268 - I remember kicking my legs, 503 00:25:18,268 --> 00:25:22,689 right, left, right, my feet unable to reach the ground. 504 00:25:22,689 --> 00:25:24,399 I turned to him, embarrassed, 505 00:25:24,399 --> 00:25:27,110 like a child who suddenly became self-aware 506 00:25:27,110 --> 00:25:30,489 of the space they took, noise they created. 507 00:25:30,489 --> 00:25:33,658 He met my doe eyes with eagerness-- 508 00:25:33,658 --> 00:25:38,038 calculated, studious, ready to pounce. 509 00:25:38,038 --> 00:25:40,332 I was a kid. 510 00:25:40,332 --> 00:25:42,209 [sniffles] 511 00:25:42,209 --> 00:25:45,170 [moody music] 512 00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:48,340 ♪ ♪ 513 00:25:48,340 --> 00:25:51,176 - She had other dreams. She had other passions. 514 00:25:51,176 --> 00:25:53,220 And they took that from her 515 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:55,138 because they didn't do their jobs. 516 00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,976 - They really came after my character 517 00:25:59,976 --> 00:26:03,396 and my family in that, 518 00:26:03,396 --> 00:26:07,484 and so it's turned into something more 519 00:26:07,484 --> 00:26:09,194 than just what happened to me. 520 00:26:09,194 --> 00:26:11,321 ♪ ♪ 521 00:26:11,321 --> 00:26:13,615 And it has strained relationships 522 00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:17,244 with people in my immediate family. 523 00:26:17,244 --> 00:26:20,497 And now I'm living with the aftermath of that... 524 00:26:20,497 --> 00:26:24,584 ♪ ♪ 525 00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:27,754 And I don't know where some of the people in my family fall 526 00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:30,590 in my life since that. 527 00:26:32,509 --> 00:26:35,595 - She kind of sacrificed her family by doing this 528 00:26:35,595 --> 00:26:38,056 not knowingly that she was sacrificing her family, 529 00:26:38,056 --> 00:26:39,808 but her family didn't want her 530 00:26:39,808 --> 00:26:42,310 to go through with the civil lawsuit. 531 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:45,772 And I think in a lot of ways, Heaven is alone right now. 532 00:26:45,772 --> 00:26:48,150 - This stuff is so heavy. 533 00:26:48,150 --> 00:26:50,485 It's, like, hard for me to, like, make friends 534 00:26:50,485 --> 00:26:53,488 or be myself around people 535 00:26:53,488 --> 00:26:55,866 because this is my life right now. 536 00:26:55,866 --> 00:26:57,075 If this wouldn't have happened, 537 00:26:57,075 --> 00:26:59,578 my life would have been very different. 538 00:26:59,578 --> 00:27:02,330 I don't know that I would necessarily wish 539 00:27:02,330 --> 00:27:05,917 for it to be different because I do feel like 540 00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:08,628 a strong sense of purpose with what I'm doing 541 00:27:08,628 --> 00:27:11,464 because I think it will make a difference, 542 00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:14,593 so I'm happy to do it. 543 00:27:14,593 --> 00:27:17,095 ♪ ♪ 544 00:27:33,236 --> 00:27:35,989 - Once trial is over, we sit down at a restaurant 545 00:27:35,989 --> 00:27:38,158 and we're waiting for the verdict. 546 00:27:38,158 --> 00:27:40,076 And the second we sit down, Mark is calling me 547 00:27:40,076 --> 00:27:41,369 and he says, "We have a verdict." 548 00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:42,954 We ran into the courtroom 549 00:27:42,954 --> 00:27:44,331 and I'm sitting there and it's, like, 550 00:27:44,331 --> 00:27:49,210 very, very, very quiet, and the jury comes out. 551 00:27:49,210 --> 00:27:51,338 The jury says yes, 552 00:27:51,338 --> 00:27:53,590 we found Miami-Dade County Public Schools 553 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:55,300 to be deliberately indifferent. 554 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:57,552 It's, like, super reassuring 555 00:27:57,552 --> 00:27:59,638 'cause you're hearing one by one the people 556 00:27:59,638 --> 00:28:02,265 that have watched it from that outside perspective. 557 00:28:02,265 --> 00:28:05,268 They read the verdict, and it was a $6-million verdict. 558 00:28:05,268 --> 00:28:07,687 [upbeat music] 559 00:28:07,687 --> 00:28:09,814 - And honestly, at that point, 560 00:28:09,814 --> 00:28:12,567 I could feel Heaven sitting next to me 561 00:28:12,567 --> 00:28:15,278 have this cathartic moment. 562 00:28:15,278 --> 00:28:18,949 I, myself, was just overwhelmed 563 00:28:18,949 --> 00:28:23,286 with pride and hope. 564 00:28:23,286 --> 00:28:25,956 ♪ ♪ 565 00:28:25,956 --> 00:28:28,667 - And when we walked outside, it was-- 566 00:28:28,667 --> 00:28:31,086 it was like the skies had just opened up 567 00:28:31,086 --> 00:28:33,296 and it just started to pour. 568 00:28:34,923 --> 00:28:36,299 And I started crying, 569 00:28:36,299 --> 00:28:39,844 and I felt like it was my grandmother. 570 00:28:39,844 --> 00:28:41,721 The streets were flooded. 571 00:28:41,721 --> 00:28:45,225 It was raining so hard and it was so windy. 572 00:28:45,225 --> 00:28:46,977 And I just... 573 00:28:46,977 --> 00:28:49,896 [soft sentimental music] 574 00:28:49,896 --> 00:28:51,898 ♪ ♪ 575 00:28:51,898 --> 00:28:55,151 In a weird way, I felt like it was her saying, like, 576 00:28:55,151 --> 00:28:58,571 "Good job. You saw it through." 577 00:28:58,571 --> 00:29:02,867 - We're inspired that we won in the civil case, 578 00:29:02,867 --> 00:29:07,080 but we are discouraged that it's been almost six years 579 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,085 and yet the criminal trial still has not occurred. 580 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:16,673 Mr. Meyers was arrested in February 2016. 581 00:29:16,673 --> 00:29:19,968 Criminal charges were filed thereafter. 582 00:29:19,968 --> 00:29:23,513 He's being criminally prosecuted as he should. 583 00:29:23,513 --> 00:29:26,182 And here we are in 2022, 584 00:29:26,182 --> 00:29:30,228 and he has yet to face justice. 585 00:29:30,228 --> 00:29:32,605 They're hoping that they will exhaust Heaven, 586 00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:35,233 that she will lose the will to fight, 587 00:29:35,233 --> 00:29:38,028 that she will lose the courage to come back to court 588 00:29:38,028 --> 00:29:43,199 and tell her story again to try to get a criminal prosecution, 589 00:29:43,199 --> 00:29:47,454 but that's not-- that's not the girl I know. 590 00:29:59,591 --> 00:30:00,717 - Do you think you'll want a whole one of these rolls 591 00:30:00,717 --> 00:30:01,968 or just, like, half? 592 00:30:01,968 --> 00:30:04,137 - Um, just a half, please. - Okay. 593 00:30:04,137 --> 00:30:06,181 - Thank you. 594 00:30:06,181 --> 00:30:08,975 I wish you could come with me to Miami. 595 00:30:08,975 --> 00:30:10,643 - I know, baby. When is that? 596 00:30:10,643 --> 00:30:12,187 A couple weeks? 597 00:30:12,187 --> 00:30:13,730 - Yeah, I am-- 598 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:18,902 I have a hearing in two weeks 599 00:30:18,902 --> 00:30:21,529 to see if it's actually gonna go to trial. 600 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:23,031 - Okay. Yeah, I was gonna ask you 601 00:30:23,031 --> 00:30:26,785 how confident you are that it actually does happen 602 00:30:26,785 --> 00:30:29,871 as it's planned. 603 00:30:29,871 --> 00:30:32,832 - [sighs] Yeah, that's, um, that's the question, right? 604 00:30:32,832 --> 00:30:34,584 [soft music] 605 00:30:34,584 --> 00:30:35,794 - I'm definitely afraid 606 00:30:35,794 --> 00:30:38,421 that they decide he's innocent, 607 00:30:38,421 --> 00:30:41,299 that it just becomes the antithesis 608 00:30:41,299 --> 00:30:44,886 to what happened with the other trial 609 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:46,262 because I don't know what kind of effect 610 00:30:46,262 --> 00:30:48,765 that would have on Heaven. 611 00:30:48,765 --> 00:30:51,059 You could argue this is a more significant case 612 00:30:51,059 --> 00:30:52,769 than the other one 'cause this is the actual person 613 00:30:52,769 --> 00:30:55,355 who did this to you, this was the personal connection, 614 00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:56,606 the person that built the trust 615 00:30:56,606 --> 00:30:58,191 and then ripped that away 616 00:30:58,191 --> 00:31:00,777 and was doing this to so many other people. 617 00:31:00,777 --> 00:31:05,115 I'm really afraid of that somehow going wrong, 618 00:31:05,115 --> 00:31:07,826 of somehow they find him innocent. 619 00:31:07,826 --> 00:31:09,953 Our whole relationship I have wanted 620 00:31:09,953 --> 00:31:12,163 these court cases to happen. 621 00:31:12,163 --> 00:31:14,916 They have been the biggest, darkest cloud 622 00:31:14,916 --> 00:31:17,001 hanging over Heaven 623 00:31:17,001 --> 00:31:19,379 for the entire time I've known her, 624 00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:22,298 and it has felt like that is holding her back 625 00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:27,178 from being able to see a future, 626 00:31:27,178 --> 00:31:30,265 to be able to look forward to anything ahead of us. 627 00:31:30,265 --> 00:31:33,768 Like, we talk about a life together, but you can tell 628 00:31:33,768 --> 00:31:37,063 that it doesn't feel real to her. 629 00:31:37,063 --> 00:31:40,150 - Your partner's almost as important as your friends 630 00:31:40,150 --> 00:31:43,570 and--or your therapist or your parents or whatever 631 00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:46,322 and that they're kind of going through this with you. 632 00:31:46,322 --> 00:31:48,658 - When Cheryl told me she was thinking about 633 00:31:48,658 --> 00:31:52,704 doing something, I thought maybe it would be a play. 634 00:31:52,704 --> 00:31:56,666 My first reaction was I wanted to protect her from it. 635 00:31:56,666 --> 00:32:00,211 It seems scary to me to put it all out there. 636 00:32:00,211 --> 00:32:02,922 But then once she started sort of digging into it 637 00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:07,760 and I could see it was a release for her, 638 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,846 it never leaves you. 639 00:32:09,846 --> 00:32:14,225 That kind of violation of who you are, 640 00:32:14,225 --> 00:32:16,227 she'll never be able to forget it. 641 00:32:16,227 --> 00:32:18,479 It'll never leave her, but I'm hoping 642 00:32:18,479 --> 00:32:20,315 she can find some peace. 643 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,532 - The reason why I like to go through these 644 00:32:29,532 --> 00:32:33,328 is because it gives me a good frame of reference 645 00:32:33,328 --> 00:32:35,496 for what's gonna be asked of me again 646 00:32:35,496 --> 00:32:37,540 when I go to trial. 647 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:43,379 So something that I think the defense will try to do 648 00:32:43,379 --> 00:32:46,758 during the case is try to ask me really specific questions 649 00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:49,052 to have the jury hear me say, "I don't know" 650 00:32:49,052 --> 00:32:50,511 as many times as possible 651 00:32:50,511 --> 00:32:53,473 because if I'm, like, the lead witness on a case 652 00:32:53,473 --> 00:32:54,974 and I don't know, 653 00:32:54,974 --> 00:32:56,809 "She doesn't remember anything," like, 654 00:32:56,809 --> 00:33:00,146 that's like their best shot at saying he's not guilty. 655 00:33:00,146 --> 00:33:03,566 Beyond a reasonable doubt is a hard thing to prove. 656 00:33:03,566 --> 00:33:05,652 I'm the only one that the judge has approved 657 00:33:05,652 --> 00:33:07,528 to testify. 658 00:33:07,528 --> 00:33:11,407 Like, it's on me to carry that through. 659 00:33:11,407 --> 00:33:13,785 And it's a lot. 660 00:33:13,785 --> 00:33:16,704 [melancholic piano music] 661 00:33:16,704 --> 00:33:22,126 ♪ ♪ 662 00:33:22,126 --> 00:33:23,169 - Good morning, Judge. Jessie Freeman 663 00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:24,587 on behalf of the state. 664 00:33:24,587 --> 00:33:25,922 - We have sounding on Thursday. 665 00:33:25,922 --> 00:33:26,881 You wanna go ahead and let me know 666 00:33:26,881 --> 00:33:28,466 what the status is now? 667 00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:30,343 - Yes, Your Honor. State's ready. 668 00:33:30,343 --> 00:33:33,930 And I do have Heaven, the victim on the case. 669 00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:35,974 She is present on the Zoom as well as my trial partner. 670 00:33:35,974 --> 00:33:37,517 That date does work. 671 00:33:37,517 --> 00:33:39,811 We were looking forward to going to trial now. 672 00:33:39,811 --> 00:33:41,104 - Defense is ready as well. 673 00:33:41,104 --> 00:33:42,939 That said, there are issues 674 00:33:42,939 --> 00:33:46,359 with the practicality of it going on March 14th. 675 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:53,283 ♪ ♪ 676 00:33:55,952 --> 00:33:58,079 - Okay, good morning. 677 00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,331 - Good morning. - Morning. 678 00:34:00,331 --> 00:34:03,293 - Judge, state's ready to begin trial on 4/25. 679 00:34:03,293 --> 00:34:05,253 The lead detective, Detective Web, 680 00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:10,675 is in a--about a month-long training in Alabama. 681 00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:13,052 What I discussed with Mr. Horenstein 682 00:34:13,052 --> 00:34:16,222 was possibly picking a jury the week of 4/25 683 00:34:16,222 --> 00:34:19,142 and then starting testimony on the week of 5/2 684 00:34:19,142 --> 00:34:21,769 or in the alternative, having Detective Web testify 685 00:34:21,769 --> 00:34:24,897 via Zoom at the trial during the week of 4/25. 686 00:34:24,897 --> 00:34:27,400 - Defense, what's your preference? 687 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,901 - Your Honor, I'll object to both. 688 00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:30,653 - Okay. 689 00:34:30,653 --> 00:34:32,488 - Having the detective-- the lead detective on the case 690 00:34:32,488 --> 00:34:34,490 via Zoom is not going to work. 691 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:35,491 - I'm gonna be honest with you. 692 00:34:35,491 --> 00:34:38,703 We start Monday. 693 00:34:38,703 --> 00:34:41,122 I don't know that we'd be able to pick a jury in a day. 694 00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:43,124 - Okay. - Tuesday I have to finish 695 00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:46,169 no later than 4:00. - Okay. 696 00:34:46,169 --> 00:34:48,338 - We're all gonna make our best efforts, 697 00:34:48,338 --> 00:34:50,423 but I can't promise you when it's gonna be done. 698 00:34:50,423 --> 00:34:53,509 - The State chose to wait six years 699 00:34:53,509 --> 00:34:54,969 to decide that they wanted the trial 700 00:34:54,969 --> 00:34:56,429 and waited until-- - Right. 701 00:34:56,429 --> 00:34:57,930 I understand what you're saying. 702 00:34:57,930 --> 00:34:59,390 You know, it's last-minute. 703 00:34:59,390 --> 00:35:02,352 I 100% agree, but they're still timely, 704 00:35:02,352 --> 00:35:04,604 so I don't think that I should impose the most 705 00:35:04,604 --> 00:35:07,273 onerous sanction and have her stricken. 706 00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:12,695 ♪ ♪ 707 00:35:14,364 --> 00:35:17,325 [soft tense music] 708 00:35:17,325 --> 00:35:18,910 ♪ ♪ 709 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:20,745 If we're not gonna be in trial, 710 00:35:20,745 --> 00:35:24,040 I already have another trial set second, waiting to go. 711 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,583 [laughs] - Yeah. 712 00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:28,795 - Thank you, Mr. Meyers and... 713 00:35:28,795 --> 00:35:33,007 the rest of the people that are on the Zoom. 714 00:35:33,007 --> 00:35:40,014 ♪ ♪ 715 00:35:40,014 --> 00:35:42,433 - It's just hard. It's just really hard 716 00:35:42,433 --> 00:35:44,394 on my emotions and... 717 00:35:44,394 --> 00:35:47,397 [cries] 718 00:35:47,397 --> 00:35:54,404 ♪ ♪ 719 00:35:56,906 --> 00:35:59,158 That's, like, the reality of being victim. 720 00:35:59,158 --> 00:36:01,869 It's... 721 00:36:01,869 --> 00:36:05,415 extensive, unreasonable delays, 722 00:36:05,415 --> 00:36:08,835 lots of back and forth. 723 00:36:08,835 --> 00:36:10,753 Does waiting six years for trial, 724 00:36:10,753 --> 00:36:12,672 is that "speedy"? 725 00:36:12,672 --> 00:36:19,595 ♪ ♪ 726 00:36:36,487 --> 00:36:40,074 - I think too often we... 727 00:36:40,074 --> 00:36:44,078 we put pressure on the victims to explain to us 728 00:36:44,078 --> 00:36:46,539 their trauma, their experience 729 00:36:46,539 --> 00:36:52,462 to teach us and educate us about what they've gone through 730 00:36:52,462 --> 00:36:55,047 so that we have a better understanding of it. 731 00:36:55,047 --> 00:36:59,135 And that's putting too much of the onus on the victims 732 00:36:59,135 --> 00:37:02,638 to take responsibility for what was, in fact, 733 00:37:02,638 --> 00:37:06,476 done to them by somebody else. 734 00:37:08,895 --> 00:37:11,564 We don't spend enough time pointing the finger 735 00:37:11,564 --> 00:37:13,983 at the perpetrator of the crime. 736 00:37:13,983 --> 00:37:15,234 We need to talk about 737 00:37:15,234 --> 00:37:17,945 how the perpetrators need to change, 738 00:37:17,945 --> 00:37:22,492 not how we need to avoid being victimized. 739 00:37:26,329 --> 00:37:29,665 [moody music] 740 00:37:29,665 --> 00:37:32,627 ♪ ♪ 741 00:37:32,627 --> 00:37:35,213 You know, people keep asking me 742 00:37:35,213 --> 00:37:40,551 if I feel like I've found resolution 743 00:37:40,551 --> 00:37:43,888 or if I feel healed in any way. 744 00:37:44,972 --> 00:37:48,684 And I look at the different ways 745 00:37:48,684 --> 00:37:52,897 that Heaven and Alisson and I 746 00:37:52,897 --> 00:37:56,275 have all processed through our trauma. 747 00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:58,444 And for Alisson, 748 00:37:58,444 --> 00:38:04,075 she sat in a room and spent time with her journals 749 00:38:04,075 --> 00:38:06,494 and then she wrote a memoir. 750 00:38:06,494 --> 00:38:13,042 And for Heaven, she decided that the legal system 751 00:38:13,042 --> 00:38:15,586 was the way that she was going to process through her trauma. 752 00:38:15,586 --> 00:38:18,464 ♪ ♪ 753 00:38:18,464 --> 00:38:21,300 For me, I decided to make a documentary 754 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,845 because that was the way that I processed 755 00:38:23,845 --> 00:38:26,055 through my pain, and I'm a filmmaker, 756 00:38:26,055 --> 00:38:28,891 and so that's how I wanted to process my trauma. 757 00:38:28,891 --> 00:38:33,563 ♪ ♪ 758 00:38:33,563 --> 00:38:39,110 I think in looking at our three very different experiences, 759 00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,904 what I've realized is, 760 00:38:41,904 --> 00:38:46,158 at the end of that road... 761 00:38:46,158 --> 00:38:48,744 in a way, there is no resolution 762 00:38:48,744 --> 00:38:54,792 because there is no way to tie this experience up in a bow 763 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:58,713 and, you know, put it away on a shelf. 764 00:38:58,713 --> 00:39:00,006 [Daniel Farrant's "Who's Gonna Fix It"] 765 00:39:00,006 --> 00:39:01,424 - ♪ Don't you know that you gotta ♪ 766 00:39:01,424 --> 00:39:04,010 ♪ Take some of the blame ♪ 767 00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:09,599 ♪ You said those unkind words 'cause you think it's a game ♪ 768 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,100 ♪ Well, it's not ♪ 769 00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:15,688 ♪ And it's got real serious ♪ 770 00:39:15,688 --> 00:39:16,981 ♪ Who's gonna fix it? ♪ 771 00:39:16,981 --> 00:39:18,149 ♪ Time to give it up ♪ 772 00:39:18,149 --> 00:39:19,692 ♪ Look around, get found ♪ 773 00:39:19,692 --> 00:39:21,944 ♪ But it don't make a new sound ♪ 774 00:39:21,944 --> 00:39:24,655 ♪ No joke 'cause it's broke ♪ 775 00:39:24,655 --> 00:39:27,491 ♪ Who's gonna fix it? ♪ 776 00:39:27,491 --> 00:39:29,827 ♪ Who's gonna fix it? ♪ 777 00:39:29,827 --> 00:39:36,751 ♪ ♪ 778 00:39:52,975 --> 00:39:56,270 - This is what we've been living with forever, 779 00:39:56,270 --> 00:39:59,899 so it would have to take something enormous 780 00:39:59,899 --> 00:40:01,692 to change here. 781 00:40:01,692 --> 00:40:06,364 When you think about teaching children about consent, 782 00:40:06,364 --> 00:40:09,033 that's actually a huge thing, 783 00:40:09,033 --> 00:40:11,160 but it's something small that we can do 784 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,079 in our everyday lives 785 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,290 that is radically different from my experience. 786 00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:18,668 ♪ ♪ 787 00:40:18,668 --> 00:40:20,962 - I think it is incredibly important 788 00:40:20,962 --> 00:40:24,423 for parents, for teachers, for administrators, 789 00:40:24,423 --> 00:40:28,427 for adults to understand how this happens, 790 00:40:28,427 --> 00:40:30,471 to be able to identify the stages of grooming 791 00:40:30,471 --> 00:40:34,141 and to feel confident and empowered 792 00:40:34,141 --> 00:40:36,060 to say something. 793 00:40:38,813 --> 00:40:42,316 - I don't really know what's next after this either, 794 00:40:42,316 --> 00:40:45,027 but I don't feel like I'm done yet. 795 00:40:45,027 --> 00:40:47,780 It's not really what I want to do with my life, 796 00:40:47,780 --> 00:40:48,906 but... 797 00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,160 To feel fulfilled within myself, 798 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,163 like, I can't put it down. 799 00:40:56,163 --> 00:40:59,250 I feel like there's still so much more to do. 800 00:40:59,250 --> 00:41:01,711 ♪ ♪ 801 00:41:01,711 --> 00:41:04,380 - Hopefully, by telling your story, 802 00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:06,590 you can inspire other girls, 803 00:41:06,590 --> 00:41:08,175 you can raise awareness, 804 00:41:08,175 --> 00:41:10,177 you can create a vocabulary. 805 00:41:10,177 --> 00:41:12,763 You might even be able to change some laws. 806 00:41:12,763 --> 00:41:14,807 No matter how you come forward, 807 00:41:14,807 --> 00:41:20,062 it's a difficult, painful, ugly, messy process. 808 00:41:20,062 --> 00:41:23,941 It...it stays with you for your whole life. 809 00:41:23,941 --> 00:41:30,865 ♪ ♪ 60213

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