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Do you want to show where we are right now?
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Because I think we're quite deep inside what are called the Palestinian territories.
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What you call the Palestinian territories, I call it the heart of Judea.
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If you say the Palestinian territories, you're essentially already saying
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that this right here is going to be
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a jihadist Palestinian state
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right in the heart of Israel, not only in the heart of Israel, we're talking about like
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the
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Why couldn't it just be a Palestinian state?
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Okay, to understand the Arab way of thinking that they understand
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there's a war. They win the war if they get territory.
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They lose the war if they lose territory. You could flip that and say
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well that's what in a sense you're doing. That's what I aspire to do.
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That's what I aspire to do.
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Beyond the eastern edge of Israel,
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is the Palestinian territory of the West Bank.
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It was occupied in war by Israel in 1967
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since then hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers
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have moved here illegally under international law.
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Among them, a group of religious nationalists
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who see it as their divine right to build a greater Israel
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and drive out the Palestinians who've been here for generations.
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I made a film about them in 2011
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but now since the attack of October 7th, I'd heard that they were
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accelerating the settlement process.
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Why are you feeling me?
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I'm protected by the Israeli military.
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I'd come to try to understand their mindset
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and to see the consequences of their ultra-nationalist vision up close.
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Oh, damn. They don't see us as equal human beings
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who deserve the same rights they do.
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I was close to Israel's southern border.
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At a viewpoint, tourists were surveying the ruins of Gaza.
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The Palestinian death toll at this point was more than 43,000 and rising
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in a war that had commenced a year earlier after Hamas gunmen attacked
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Israeli communities, killing more than a thousand and taking hundreds more hostage.
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Now with bombs falling nearby,
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settlers from across the West Bank were holding a chamboree
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to promote the idea of putting new Jewish outposts in Gaza.
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With workshops offering practical advice,
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while a vanguard made their case in front of the world's media.
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How are you doing?
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Louis.
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Nice to meet you, Ovi.
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And why are you here today?
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To show support and that I believe that Gaza's arts,
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that we need to be living there.
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To those Palestinians who say, well, we'd like to live in the Palestinian state,
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what do you say?
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The Bible says this place was given to the Jews, the space is ours.
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It's a Jewish name.
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What's your name?
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Alan.
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Aaron, nice to meet you.
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Louis, where are you from?
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I'm from Ereven.
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And before that,
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until I was nine years old, lived in New York,
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and then my parents made a riad to Israel.
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We're here, call our government to go and settle Gaza.
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We're here because we have a right to be here.
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Our right to be in this land is the Torah, is the godly promise,
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where we don't settle, terroglots.
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Among the attendees were many senior political figures,
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including Israel's Minister of National Security.
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In his youth,
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not now, not now.
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We, the settlement movement, organized this event in order to enhance the practical idea
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of establishing Jewish settlements in the entire Gaza Strip.
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We very much encourage and enable the population in Gaza.
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To go to other countries, your rereadness, how Jews go to Gaza and Arabs disappear from Gaza.
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They lost their right to stay in this holy place.
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Please go.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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It's not long.
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From up on a nearby hill, they came the sound of protesting.
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It's so good.
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It's so good.
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An Israeli group demonstrating for a ceasefire and the return of hostages taken by Hamas.
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What are you doing here?
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I think the idea of least settling Gaza is absolutely ridiculous.
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The question is, what kind of country do we want to be?
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Do we want to be a colonizing country?
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Or do we want to be a country that at least offers peace and wants to live in peace with the Palestinians?
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That has to be what we strive for.
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I've been hoping for a moment with Daniella, but then came a warning of a possible rocket attack and the event was quickly evacuated.
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Let's grab the cameras and let's go.
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Wow.
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I want you.
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For Jewish settlers, Gaza is the latest frontier in a process that's been unfolding for decades across the West Bank.
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A region of not much more than 5,000 square kilometers.
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The West Bank is home to around three million Palestinians.
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Most of them living in large cities with limited autonomy under the Palestinian Authority.
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The Israeli military occupied the area in the Six-Day War in 1967.
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Since then, hundreds of thousands of Israelis have moved in to form settlements,
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hoping to expand Jewish presence in the region or simply looking for cheap housing.
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Often they start out as a few tents or caravans, pitched by ultra ideological settlers on hilltops next to Palestinian towns.
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These are known as outposts.
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They are illegal under Israeli law until they are authorized as settlements,
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but both settlements and outposts are illegal under international law.
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The army nevertheless protects them.
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Hello. How are you?
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Everything's great. Where are you from? London, England. Oh, nice. Where are you from? Russia.
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Russia.
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Most settlements tend to be suspicious of media, but I'd managed to get an appointment at one called Evyatah.
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It had started out as an outpost on the edge of the Palestinian town of Beitah.
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It was only recognized as a settlement by the Israeli state a few months earlier.
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Good morning. How are you? I'm fine. How are you? You must be Malchiel. I'm Louis. How do you do? I'm fine. Thank you.
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Thank you for coming.
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One of its founders is Horserangula, Malchiel Baha'i.
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All right. So let me show you a bit about Beitah.
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I'm just going to have to ask you not to take any films of the army base. That's where the sitting.
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So there's an army base? This is an army base. That's where the dormitories are.
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And this is a house people living here. The army bases for your security for all the region security.
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The story about Evyatah, this was held top. We started from day one living in tents.
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And by then over a month, we were 50 families living here in these houses. All of these houses were built back then.
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Coming from where? All over the country. Should we go inside?
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All right. It is a little untidy. This is where you're living at the moment? Yes.
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This is our humble home. This is our living room, our kitchen.
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How many children do you have? Eight. Four boys and four girls. Wow.
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Behind here we have another kids' room. This is a girls' bedroom. Two older girls, 13 and 11. They sleep here.
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And over there, this is a laundry bathroom and a shower.
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So where do you stay? My mom and dad. This is me and my wife. You and your wife are in there.
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If it rains? If it does rain, so we'll go into the small caravan.
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Hopefully we'll finish building the house before winter is here.
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Do you enjoy being out on the frontier where it's a bit more rough and ready where there's more uncertainty?
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Our mission is to settle Israel, new settlements all over the country.
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So most of the world sees this as the West Bank. There's occupied territory. It's under a military occupation.
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Correct? Like it's not part of the state of Israel as most nations recognize it.
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The ancient name of this area is called Judea. The meaning of Judea is belong to the Jews.
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So you can't take all the history, put it in the garbage and say, okay, it's not belong to the Jews.
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The history says it belongs to the children.
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The
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selective reading of history that ignores the Palestinians who've lived in the land for generations.
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The aim for settlements like Eviatar is to become full-fledged towns.
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Guarded round the clock by soldiers, walled off from the millions around them.
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The godmother of the settler project, going back more than 50 years, is the woman I'd seen at the Gaza border event, Daniella Weiss.
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I want to see big cities here, like a city of 2 million people. So it's not a settlement.
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Settlement is caravans. The trailer is a home here and a home there. This is not what my dream is about.
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The trailers in that video of Daniella have now grown into the settlement of Qedumim where she still lives.
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Hi, my name is William.
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Supported by some in the Israeli government, Daniella is viewed by others in power as a dangerous extremist.
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She'd agreed to talk to me at home.
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My name is Melcholomcholio.
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Nice to see you. So we've got pictures of you as a young woman. Is the one of you getting married? Is that the oldest one?
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This is when we got together. I was then 15 or something.
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Your parents were from?
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My mother was born in Warsaw. My parents came here and invested fortunes, living.
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Someday there will be a joy state. With their vision and their faith, I continue to expand the Israel and to be as close as possible to the promised land.
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This is your map. So this is what most of the world knows is the West Bank, which you call Judeon-Smeria.
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This is what you call occupied West Bank.
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And what the Palestinians would like to see is a future state of their own.
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Oh, they are not satisfied with this, but a complicated issue.
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These little pink wedges, what do they represent?
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The Jewish communities that were established since 1967.
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I'm curious to know roughly how many settlements and outposts you've been, let's say, in some way involved in the establishment.
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Almost everyone.
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For real?
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It's 50 years. You know what it means? 50 years that I do what I do today?
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Because it's a territory that was won in the 67 War, that under the Geneva Convention transferring a civilian population into a conquered terrain, that's considered a war crime.
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What I do here is a war crime.
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According to the UN.
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You know, cooperating with the President of the committed war crime?
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Well, I'm interviewing you.
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It's a light felony.
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I've read a couple of things suggesting that you were viewed as an extremist and possibly sympathizing with Jewish or Israeli terror.
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The confrontation is not over terror.
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The confrontation is just on whether, yes or no, we stay here.
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There's quote, so alarming is the situation. It's talking about the situation of settlers and what they describe as settler extremism and violence.
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Last week, Ronan Barr, the head of the Israel Security Service, wrote to Netanyahu, the Prime Minister and the Defense Minister warning that what he called Jewish terror by violent settlers was doing indescribable damage to Israel.
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The reason Ronan Barr says that I'm extremist has nothing to do with terror.
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Whatever I represent threatens his peaceful secular life.
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I have nothing to do with terror. He knows I have nothing to do with terror.
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And he insists on saying it.
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It's a lie. And he knows that it's a lie.
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He doesn't like me because I have a lot of influence much more than he is.
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Influence over who?
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The young generation that is growing in Israel.
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And government too.
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And government what?
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Do you have influence over government?
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No question. Who did all this?
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Can you call Netanyahu?
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What do you mean? Like this?
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No, how do you call his aides?
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So the idea is to force the government by putting people, starts with small settlements, then they get bigger, then they get recognized by the state of Israel and basically creating a new demographic reality.
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We do not force the government. We do for governments what they cannot do for themselves.
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Even if you take Netanyahu now, he is very happy with what we do here and also about our plans to build Jewish communities in Gaza. He is happy about it.
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But he cannot say it. He says the opposite.
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It's not realistic.
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God! We will make it realistic.
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It's not forcing the government. He's helping the government.
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It's step number one in politics.
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You don't force the government. You give the government the courage, the ability, the public support, the political support.
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I think you understand what I said.
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Even if you disagree.
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There was something unsettling about hearing Daniela's ethno-nationalist vision being laid out so plainly, especially when I considered the support she claimed to have from some in power.
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With their backing, the settlement project has accelerated, with many of those going to live in West Bank settlements coming from other countries.
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Anyone from anywhere in the world with Jewish heritage, since they qualify for Israeli citizenship, can live in a settlement.
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Have you ever been to Judea? Well, consider this an invitation, because I could try to describe it to you in words, but it would just be impossible.
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Arya Brahmavitz was born and raised in Texas. He now helps run Arugot Farm.
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A small retreat hosting birthdays, weddings and corporate events, often catering to tourists.
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The farm was established as an outpost in 2014, illegally according to international law, on land deep inside the occupied West Bank.
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Hi, we're going to Arugot Farm. Thank you.
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Are you Arya? I am! There you are! How are you doing? Good to meet you. Welcome, welcome.
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Nice to meet you. Louis. Louis. Yes. Sanonos. Louis. Louis. Louis. Yes. Or Louis, I don't mind too much.
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Welcome to Judea. You've come armed.
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But we're so friendly. I know how it looks. I know it's not true.
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So this is our synagogue. And I remember when I first came here, I wanted to build my house here.
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And then I learned that according to Judea's law, you build the synagogue in the highest place, which makes sense.
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Well, my home is going to be lording over the synagogue. I wouldn't be right. These are the Torah scrolls.
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Is it weird to have your guns on in here?
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No. My gun is here to protect the nation of Israel from those that seek to harm us.
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But during a service, would you typically wear them?
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Yes. Is it that dangerous? It is until it's not.
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Thank God it never had any issues of infiltrations here.
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And I think it's because they know that we're ready for it.
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How old were you when you came to Israel?
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I think it was 16. I came here after high school to study Torah.
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It was supposed to be a few months. It's called the Gap Year program.
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When you breathe the air, when you taste that, when you feel mission and passion in life, you can't go back.
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This is where I choose to come and pray with the creator of heaven and earth.
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I think this is the most beautiful place in the world right here.
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Where's the nearest Palestinian town? I'm so uncomfortable using the word Palestinian because I don't think that it exists.
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You don't think they really exist? I don't think that they exist as a real nation with a real claim to this land.
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What are they then? They are the Arabs with a connection to this land.
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Yes, they have a connection to it. It's nowhere near the depth and I mean we were in this land planting vineyards before Muhammad was in the third grade.
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Is that a settlement there? That is a Jewish settlement called the Pnekhedem.
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Pnekhedem, which means facing the east, face to the east.
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Would that be considered legal under Israeli law?
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I don't know. You don't really care. I don't care at all.
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At all. I don't care at all. Why don't you care?
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This land here in the heart of Judea, there's some things that transcend the whims of legislation and this is one of those things.
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For millions of Palestinians up and down the West Bank, the presence of settlers makes life precarious.
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They live under Israeli military law, restricted from most Israeli roads, subject to frequent run-ins with the authorities and detention without trial, in a legal system that is opaque and arbitrary.
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Israel says the measures are necessary for security.
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I was in the south Hebron Hills during the olive harvest, a time when tensions run high, with Palestinians prevented from getting to trees they say they've harvested for years.
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How are you doing? I was curious to see the interactions for myself.
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I'd heard from an Israeli activist group, they were trying to help a farmer named Ishark Jabarin.
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Hello. Hello.
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Hello. What's happening here today?
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I'm not a professor, I'm not a professor, I'm not a liberal.
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I'm a professor, I'm a very young man. I'm a very young man.
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Yeah. I know. I like the southland for having a family and I'm very proud of both.
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It was the project for the strengthening of the lands, wilderness of the land in the Tales of Ruth.
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And this part of it has driven lands with the darganders
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Galaxy, you're trying to do something?
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and nearby settlement had allegedly called them to report the olive picking.
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One of those on the scene was a long time Israeli activist mathematician Kobe Sneaks.
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Kobe do you know what they're doing right now?
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The army has said you got to leave in five minutes and now the landowner has to make a choice
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if to try to insist on staying here and taking a risk.
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They're liable to do anything. They could arrest the Palestinians, they can arrest us.
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Who knows what they might do.
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Have you been arrested before?
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Do you think he would have been arrested?
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40% of all Palestinian men have been arrested, so probably.
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They're all informed?
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British television.
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Bus codes.
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Thank you.
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Anyone else want to take my passport?
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I need to check.
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Check what?
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Check what?
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Nothing, they don't check anything, they just understand.
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They're just a bit lost.
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They're just a bit of money.
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They're just a bit of money.
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If he kept picking he would have been arrested?
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No, it's not to arrest.
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To just evacuate the area.
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Meaning what, though, if he says I'm not leaving?
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I'm grateful we didn't get to that part.
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Because what would happen?
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I actually have done.
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As a soldier you would have to do what detain him?
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That's...
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No.
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I would have not taken him.
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Alongside their interactions with the army, Palestinians throughout the West Bank also suffer attacks by settlers.
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These videos come from the South Hebron Hills where I'd seen the olive picking.
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In the town of Tawani, a settler was caught on camera shooting and severely injuring a Palestinian man.
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The shooter had his gun license revoked, but he was never arrested.
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I'd heard of other similar incidents.
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In the same town of Tawani, I'd made contact with a 20-year-old Palestinian student and local activist named Mohammed Hireini.
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He'd offered to take me to the top of the hill to meet his neighbor who lives at a spot closest to a settlement.
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Louis, it's nice to meet you.
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Thank you for having us.
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Mosab Rubay's house still bears the scars of what he says were settler attacks.
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You can see, like, from the wind up in the pullet.
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So, there's bullets that have come through here?
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From this window and that window.
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This is the settler attacks.
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This and this one.
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Without bright light is?
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Yeah.
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So, what is that?
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Is that an outpost or what is that? Is there anyone in there?
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Hang on, something's happening.
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What is it?
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It's the salt. Are they coming in?
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They are screaming to us.
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I don't know. There is a little bit of tension.
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I see the ladies around the rock.
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Take show, Zara.
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It's happening with us.
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Everything.
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What do we do? Just stay in here?
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Yeah, we are inside.
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My turn, what do you think?
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It's not safe at the moment. There's obviously multiple guns pointing at us.
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We have Littuet.
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What can we do? Can we call the police?
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Which police?
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I mean, they are one. One regime.
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It doesn't matter.
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No, because, I mean, we raised in this situation, so it became a normal reality for us.
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When you are a kid, you just feel this army invading your home in the day, on the night.
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You grow up on this injustice reality that it became normal for you as a human, but it's not normal for anybody.
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And no one should accept it.
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After more than an hour, the soldiers appeared to lose interest, and the crew and I slipped away.
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The violence committed by some settlers is often justified by them as a response to violence they experienced from Palestinians.
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Which is much less frequent. Nevertheless, it's hard to disentangle it from an ideology of the superiority of one group and their rights over another, promoted by leaders like Daniela Weiss.
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Hiya, how are you?
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Hey, how are you?
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I'm good.
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I'm hoping for more insight into her and her work, I was back.
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Then I have a meeting. So, but do I have a seat?
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Thank you.
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I'm looking for a seat.
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I'm looking for a seat.
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I'm looking for a seat.
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I'm looking for a seat.
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So, we'll just wait.
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Great.
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Okay, so now, follow me if you want to know.
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Are we leaving?
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So, we're going to meet you there.
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Alright.
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I was joining Daniela and some friends of hers in a convoy heading towards Gaza.
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Mission unclear.
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Two hours later, we were one kilometer from the Gaza border in the Israeli town of Sterat.
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Arriving at a yeshiva, a religious school, where Daniela took part in an assembly.
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Alongside two prominent rabbis.
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What's happening next, Daniela?
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Should we follow you?
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We'll follow him.
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Our next stop was a memorial for the victims of October 7th.
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Sterat had seen heavy fighting during Hamas attacks and suffered many losses.
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For some passes by, Daniela held a degree of celebrity status.
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Then the settler convoy arrived at what seemed to be its destination.
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A viewpoint overlooking the war zone.
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Daniela had told me she'd signed up 800 families who were ready to move into Gaza.
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One of her team explained how it would work.
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The idea seemed to be to get spiritual buy-in from the two rabbis.
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One of them was next to speak, Rabbi Dov Leor.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a great man.
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He was very good.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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I remember.
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He was a very good man.
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He was a very good man.
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As the day ended, we were following Daniela's car, driving on what seemed to be army-controlled
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land, approaching ever closer to the Gaza border.
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I can see the destroytizers.
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It had previously been reported that Daniela had been illegally escorted into Gaza by
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soldiers who supported her, to wreck your locations for settlement.
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Suddenly her vehicle broke away.
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On this occasion she was intercepted.
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So basically she had a military escort and then she just peeled away and made a sprint
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for the border of Gaza.
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Yeah.
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She's just tried to run away from the army, hasn't she?
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Did you try and make a dash to put the Gaza border?
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What was happening down there?
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I enjoyed it so much.
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Our two jeeps were due too much attention.
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But what's the idea?
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Why do you want to go down to the Gaza?
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Actually, you want to get into Gaza?
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Why do you want to go down to the Gaza border?
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What I wanted to do, I wanted to show the rabbis that Gaza is not something beyond reach.
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Would you say October 7th made people more receptive to your message and to your point
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of view?
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No doubt.
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The October 7th naturally made people more receptive to the idea of the Great Israel.
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But the next step to his settlements in Gaza is a very difficult step that demands a lot
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of work.
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You have to influence the leftist, the government, the nations of the world.
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Using the magic system, Zionism, you will be in the land, you establish communities,
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you bring Jewish families, you live Jewish life, and this will bring light instead of darkness.
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And this is how the state of Israel was established.
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And this is what we want to do in Gaza.
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This process of making the whole of the West Bank in Gaza Jewish, do you feel like it's
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moving more quickly?
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As far as Judaism is concerned, so we want to move from 1 million to 2 million.
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So this is the next step.
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This is my vision.
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I'm so complicated.
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Daniela's vision has been made possible by the Israeli occupation.
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But it in turn has led to the creation of a vast military infrastructure which impacts
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every aspect of Palestinian life.
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Nowhere is it more evident than in Hebron.
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Hebron is an ancient Biblical city, home to some 200,000 Palestinians, a place wholly
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to three major religions.
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Hi, how are you?
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We're from the British TV crew.
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In 1968, the year after it was occupied by Israel, a community of Jewish settlers moved
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in illegally.
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They now number around 700 existing in a cordon of military protection.
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I visited in 2010 when I spent time with a settler leader.
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Now 14 years on, I was curious about life within the Palestinian community.
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I'm Louis.
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Hi, Louis.
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Nice to meet you.
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Welcome.
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Thank you for having us.
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Yissa Amro, a Palestinian activist, was born here in the settler occupied area.
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You've got fences all around?
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All around.
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Pences from here?
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Yeah.
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Who lives on the other side?
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Is there a settler?
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We've got army there.
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What are they doing?
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Have they come for a reason?
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No, they come for intimidation.
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How are you?
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They're not speaking, but I think what they would say is, well, we're here to bring
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security to the settlers who live here and want to live in peace and experience animosity
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from the Palestinians.
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So they want to live in peace and the expense of my basic human rights.
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I didn't choose to live in Hebron.
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I was born in Hebron.
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It's my land.
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It's my homeland.
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The settlers chose to come here.
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And if it's not safe for them, why do you continue building more and more settlements
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in my own city?
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By international law, the settlements are illegal.
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They don't see us as equal human beings who deserve the same rights they do.
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Lead the way.
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Yeah.
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For nearly 20 years, ESA has been an advocate for nonviolent resistance against the occupation.
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He is one of around 30,000 Palestinians living inside the high security area of Hebron,
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the so-called sterile zone.
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For them, just doing their shopping, going to work, or going to school means passing through
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military checkpoints.
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Let's see how it works.
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Hi.
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Hi.
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How are you guys doing?
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Good. How are you?
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Fine. Everything okay?
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I need your passport, please.
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All of you, okay?
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Sure.
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What for?
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Why?
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Check.
476
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Why, ESA, how are you doing, mate?
477
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000
How are you doing?
478
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Hi.
479
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Why are you covering your faces?
480
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Because of the coil.
481
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000
No.
482
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Come on, guys.
483
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Don't hide.
484
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Only gangs hide their faces.
485
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000
You are a military.
486
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
You should have your faces, you know, obvious to everybody.
487
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000
You know it, sir.
488
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
You live here.
489
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Yeah, he does.
490
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Father.
491
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
He says it's making life very difficult to have this another.
492
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000
What are you doing here?
493
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000
What are you all doing here?
494
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000
What am I doing here?
495
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000
Make your documentary.
496
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
The commentary for prison television.
497
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Of what?
498
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
About settlers in the West Bank.
499
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Settlers in the West Bank?
500
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Yes.
501
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000
What?
502
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000
What do you tell to the television about the settlements?
503
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000
It's not about what I'm telling them, it's about what I'm hearing from the people who I speak to.
504
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Where do you live?
505
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000
I don't want to tell you.
506
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Okay.
507
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000
I told you where I went.
508
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000
It's a jarrabรฉ.
509
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000
It's a jarrabรฉ.
510
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
What does that mean?
511
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000
It's a enjoy from the trip in Caron here.
512
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000
Thank you.
513
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Wish you all the best, guys.
514
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
How is life here?
515
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000
It's like you're very well armed.
516
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Is there a situation here that needs careful control?
517
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Of course.
518
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,000
What is it?
519
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Tell me about it.
520
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
My love, so glad we're all.
521
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
It's wonderful.
522
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,000
What was he saying about Aravi?
523
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Oh, he wanted to see if you're on an Aravi.
524
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,000
He asked you to speak Arabic.
525
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000
How are you doing?
526
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000
What's up?
527
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Hey, how are you doing?
528
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000
No, excellent.
529
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
American?
530
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
What do I look, Chinese?
531
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000
Yeah.
532
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000
You're clean.
533
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000
You're wet.
534
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Let me just pull over to the side.
535
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Okay.
536
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Do you know him?
537
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000
No, he doesn't sit here.
538
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
You're okay?
539
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000
Do you need help?
540
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000
You're okay?
541
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
No.
542
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Are you stuck?
543
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000
You were a rot.
544
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Yeah.
545
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000
I can't see him.
546
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
What's wrong with you?
547
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,000
What's wrong with you?
548
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Why are you filming me?
549
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
It's all good, don't worry.
550
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
We can't even see your face.
551
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Let your obscure.
552
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000
No one can even see who you are.
553
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000
Don't worry.
554
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000
I don't know what to do with you.
555
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000
I have work to do.
556
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Get on with you, boys.
557
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
You're fine.
558
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000
You stay here?
559
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000
Have a sit there?
560
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
In the check post and filming everything, you can't do this.
561
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Here, okay?
562
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000
Come with me.
563
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000
Wait, no, you can't do that.
564
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
565
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000
No, no, no.
566
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Don't touch me.
567
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,000
No, don't touch me.
568
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
No, Berlin.
569
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,000
Listen to me.
570
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000
I'm listening.
571
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000
Come.
572
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000
Come to me.
573
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000
I'm from the military, okay?
574
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000
Okay?
575
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000
I'm the idea of Israel Defense Forces.
576
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000
I'm above the police here in the West Bank.
577
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,000
Okay?
578
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,000
I'm the highest responsibility of law.
579
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Okay?
580
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000
We'll tell you like this, okay?
581
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,000
And as this man, IDF, I need to tell you, not staying here.
582
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Okay, we'll move along.
583
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000
That's fine.
584
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Okay, live this place.
585
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000
Live this area, okay?
586
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Yeah, we'll move along.
587
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Right now, Yala.
588
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Father, wait.
589
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Let's go.
590
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Yala, let's go.
591
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000
So who lives here?
592
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000
Palestinian Foundation.
593
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
And where are they?
594
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000
They are hiding behind the indoors.
595
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000
What would stop these shops from being open?
596
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,000
It's closed by military orders.
597
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000
And marked as closed shops.
598
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000
It's marked.
599
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,000
From this shop would be five families at least live and earn their living.
600
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Look, this is something new.
601
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,000
This not to hire Arab workers in Israel.
602
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Two faces.
603
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Two faces of Arab and a face of a terrorist.
604
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,000
And this is how they stereotype us.
605
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Middle finger.
606
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000
You gave you the middle finger?
607
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000
Yes.
608
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
You too.
609
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000
You think it was to me?
610
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000
I think it was to you.
611
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
To both of us.
612
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000
Because you deserve the middle finger if you report about Palestinians.
613
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
It's a very good station.
614
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000
It's a very good station.
615
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,000
Wait, wait.
616
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:39,000
I did, please.
617
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
For what reason?
618
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000
The police.
619
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000
I want to ask you to ask.
620
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,000
Yes.
621
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
I'm sorry.
622
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000
I'm sorry.
623
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000
I'm sorry.
624
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000
I know that I'm allowed to be here.
625
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000
I'm sorry.
626
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Today, we are almost allowed.
627
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Why can't he be with us?
628
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Because we are a limit for Palestinians.
629
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,000
So if he lives here, he can't.
630
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,000
It's, you know, give me what I did.
631
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
How come Palestinians can't come down here?
632
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
We'll play this.
633
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000
We'll come around.
634
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000
We're not talking to you.
635
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000
It seems ironic that that's the visitor's centre, right?
636
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
The tourists and whatnot.
637
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000
And he can't actually visit in his own city.
638
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000
You knew that was going to happen?
639
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000
No.
640
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,000
It's new that they ask me to come back to here.
641
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,000
He told me that I'm allowed only to here.
642
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
So they expanded the closed area for me.
643
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000
What's it all about?
644
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Taking more and more land.
645
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,000
It's about fragmented life, restricted life for Palestinians.
646
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000
No quality life.
647
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000
You live with the basics.
648
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
With the basics, even with less than basics,
649
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000
with our family needs.
650
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
To make you live.
651
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000
And they are doing well.
652
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000
The majority of the houses are empty.
653
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
The families are leaving.
654
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000
You could flip it and say, well, if they really wanted to occupy the whole of Hebron,
655
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:23,000
or at least this area, they could literally deport Palestinians.
656
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000
They do it slowly.
657
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000
But now they are speeding up.
658
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,000
They want approval from their allies and their partners in the world.
659
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Is it worth going through to see the other side?
660
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Yes, they can see what it looks like.
661
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:50,000
This gives you a little flavor of what it was like in there before.
662
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Yes.
663
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000
The market was much more busy inside.
664
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000
It was our Oxford Street inside.
665
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,000
So busy.
666
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000
My father used to hold my arm not to lose me.
667
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Not anymore.
668
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,000
It's close completely.
669
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000
It's restricted.
670
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000
In order to get back in, we can't go through there now because they have closed.
671
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000
It's closed.
672
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000
So how do we get back in?
673
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
You drive from another checkpoint.
674
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000
Through here?
675
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,000
Yes.
676
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,000
Louis!
677
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000
Coming through?
678
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000
Yes.
679
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Okay, just one more.
680
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
One is a green green.
681
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000
I'm fine.
682
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000
I'm fine.
683
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,000
I'm fine.
684
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Go for it.
685
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Go for it.
686
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,000
Go for it.
687
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000
Go for it.
688
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
So now we're on the other side of the area where you couldn't walk before, right?
689
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Yes.
690
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000
Where they stopped you from walking in front of the visitor center.
691
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000
But you need to get home.
692
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,000
Yes.
693
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,000
So what will you do?
694
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000
I will go around again.
695
00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:03,000
I will go outside this checkpoint, go around to enter from another checkpoint and wait till the checkpoint opens to get into my house with my son.
696
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
You definitely can't come this way.
697
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,000
I can't come this way.
698
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Okay.
699
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000
I can.
700
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000
They won't let you through.
701
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,000
No, they will not.
702
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000
I'm not allowed.
703
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
I was happy to meet you.
704
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000
Thank you so much.
705
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,000
Take care.
706
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Bye bye.
707
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:30,000
I'm happy.
708
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:43,000
On the drive back from Hebron, I reflected on the separate lives lived by Israelis and Palestinians and the unequal system of rights and justice.
709
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000
I ran into a traffic jam caused by a bomb scare.
710
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:58,000
The road, the main artery in the West Bank, is one of the few shared by Israelis and Palestinians.
711
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:05,000
For once, all were subject to delay.
712
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,000
It was the sobering experience visiting Hebron again.
713
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:21,000
He told me he believed life was being made intolerable for Palestinians deliberately to make them leave and that the process was speeding up since October 7th.
714
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:30,000
And it was true that some settlers I'd met supported the deportation of Palestinians who won't submit to Jewish authority.
715
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:39,000
One of them was Ari, a Texan born and raised in Houston, now resident deep inside the occupied West Bank.
716
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Good to see you.
717
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Good to see you.
718
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000
How are you?
719
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000
All right.
720
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,000
Go on to the weather.
721
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,000
I'm sorry to hear that.
722
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000
Thank you for having us back.
723
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Hoping to understand a little better, I'd return to see him again.
724
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Okay, okay.
725
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000
We're ready for the coffee.
726
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
I really hope I do a try.
727
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000
I never know if you wear those guns just for effect.
728
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000
I don't know what effect I'm looking for.
729
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Do I want to look more militant?
730
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000
Yeah, no, I'm not wearing it just for effect.
731
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Do you want to sit down?
732
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:21,000
We've talked a lot about how you see the importance of Jewish presence in the, what's termed the biblical land of Israel.
733
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,000
Are you saying that you see Israel as playing a role for modeling a new kind of nationalism?
734
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Is that right?
735
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:37,000
I think that all of what's happening in the world right now is leading us as a nation to open our eyes to who we are.
736
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:49,000
We are the tip of the spear fighting the battles of America and defending the entire western world, and not just the western world, anyone who wants any semblance of liberty and freedom in their lives.
737
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Nevertheless, there are millions of people up and down the area, Arabs, Muslims who aren't living free, right?
738
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:06,000
They're enclosed without the same rights, without national self-determination, and in many respects feeling besieged.
739
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000
And I just wonder, do you see that?
740
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:20,000
I don't have tremendous compassion for a society that has an unquenchable, genocidal, theological bloodlust.
741
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000
It's like a death cult.
742
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:30,000
It seems to me that there's a danger with that characterization of Palestinians, you define them as eliminationists and hateful and genocidal.
743
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000
I use the words death cult.
744
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,000
That permits you to almost create a mirror image of that.
745
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,000
You say, well if they want to do that to us, then we need to do that to them.
746
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:59,000
I think that when you're living amongst people who have perpetually proven, not only by word, but by deed, that they want your blood spilled in the streets, that they want to murder your children, that they want to slay all of you, kill all of you, in the most horrific genocide away.
747
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:12,000
That all of the polls showed after October 7th, that these people who you continuously call the Palestinian people, that I reject the very premise, that they are actually a real nation for a lot of reasons.
748
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:21,000
But the millions of people who have nothing to do with October 7th, who actually would like to live free full lives.
749
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,000
If that's really what they wanted, they would have had it a long time ago.
750
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,000
They want to wipe Israel off the map. They want every last Jew dead.
751
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:49,000
The answer is for us to declare sovereignty over all of Judea and Samaria, and all of the land of Israel, and Gaza, and to settle Gaza and all of Judea and Samaria with Jews in the land of Israel.
752
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Did the question annoy you?
753
00:52:53,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Annoy me, I just hear it so often, and it feels like it's being addressed again and again and again.
754
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Even if the entire world is pointing, accusing fingers and gnashing their teeth and rage and anger, we know the righteousness and the truth of our cause, even if we stand alone.
755
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000
That's what it means to be a Hebrew, that's what it means to be a Jew.
756
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,000
If we know the truth of our cause, that's all we need.
757
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:30,000
For Ari, it was clear that nothing is greater than the word of God, and that word had led him to believe that it was the divine right of the Jewish people to settle and rule this land.
758
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,000
See you later.
759
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000
God, I'm glad to protect you. I'm in.
760
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:45,000
The Bible was, as he saw it, a land deed to the West Bank.
761
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:55,000
With an afternoon three, I stopped for coffee in the Palestinian city of Nablus.
762
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:10,000
Surrounded by the ancient architecture of the old city and the undeniable fact of the hundreds of thousands of people living there and their aspirations for statehood.
763
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:20,000
At the edge of the city, we were held up at one of the many checkpoints that control the people entering and leaving.
764
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Can you put the gun down?
765
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000
I got the model.
766
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000
From London.
767
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000
You've been in the market?
768
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,000
Yes.
769
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,000
You also?
770
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000
Yes.
771
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000
You're a Jew?
772
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,000
She's American.
773
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000
Can you show me ID?
774
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,000
Me?
775
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,000
Everyone.
776
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,000
Yes, sure.
777
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000
It's very slow going.
778
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
We're in that queue for an hour or more.
779
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Nice.
780
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000
How much time are you going to stay in there?
781
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
Hang on, but I don't think we're in Israel.
782
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Are we in Israel?
783
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000
You're in Israel now.
784
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000
Are we?
785
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Yes.
786
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,000
In the West Bank.
787
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,000
No?
788
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:14,000
In the north of the West Bank, I was heading back to the settlement of Eviatar, where I'd been hosted by Malkeel, the horse Wrangler.
789
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Since my visit, I'd learned a little more about the settlement's relations with its neighboring Palestinian town of Beitah.
790
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:33,000
How Beitah had been subject to settler attacks, and how it, in turn, had organized regular protests of the settlement.
791
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,000
Demonstrators had been killed, and others wounded during the clashes.
792
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:45,000
One of the deaths of a Turkish-American volunteer, Aishinaou Ezki-Egi, made headlines.
793
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:56,000
Now the settlement was holding a festival to celebrate its recent recognition by the Israeli state.
794
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:09,000
Entertainment's have been laid on, and families from settlements from around the West Bank had converged for a day of music and activities.
795
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,000
One of those speaking with Daniela.
796
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,000
In the hot goodbye, Mehimahot, Aishinaou.
797
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000
I guess, would.
798
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,000
How are you?
799
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000
It's a bit quieter.
800
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:05,000
As the festivities wound down, I had a moment to speak to Daniela on a hilltop overlooking the Palestinian town of Beitah.
801
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,000
So you've been talking about settling, you've talked about displacing, wanting the Palestinians to go.
802
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,000
You said to Africa, to Canada, to England, you don't care where?
803
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:20,000
What would be wrong with either a two-state solution or a one-state solution where everyone had the same rights?
804
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:29,000
We want to have a Jewish state based on Jewish rules, on Jewish values.
805
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000
It's not relationship of neighbors.
806
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,000
Why not?
807
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Because we are two different nations.
808
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,000
Different.
809
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:47,000
I just wonder whether you feel or you're aware that they're really suffering, and there's been settlers rampaging through the area of the West Bank.
810
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000
So there's all this...
811
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000
Agitation.
812
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Death.
813
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000
Tragedy, right?
814
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,000
Tragedy.
815
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:07,000
When a people is invaded, right, and then put under a military occupation deprived of their rights, that anger seems to be an understandable response, an appropriate response.
816
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,000
There is no such thing as subtle violence.
817
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,000
Did they speak? I don't know if I felt... I don't mind saying it again.
818
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,000
I don't mind. I will be glad to explain it.
819
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000
You don't believe it's real? There are videos. You can see them.
820
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,000
You see what? Okay? Let's say...
821
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,000
We have a camera right here.
822
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,000
Yes.
823
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,000
And I do this.
824
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,000
Yep.
825
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Do something. You don't mind what I did to you. You don't decide to do anything.
826
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000
Well, I won't do that to you.
827
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,000
You won't.
828
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,000
And then the camera takes just part.
829
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,000
You don't have the full picture.
830
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,000
Then I say you're violent. You're violent against a woman.
831
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:55,000
This is exactly what is going on all the time with what you call...
832
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Settler violence.
833
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:07,000
Settlers do not wake up in the morning or do not go wait for sundown to attack.
834
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,000
No, no, no, no.
835
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:14,000
Why should we wake up in the morning and think about violence?
836
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,000
Why our life is good?
837
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,000
Because you want the Palestinians to leave.
838
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000
No, no, no, no.
839
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,000
You've said so.
840
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:32,000
I said that what is on my mind all the time is how to bring more people to settle the land.
841
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,000
This is a new development by Jews.
842
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,000
This is Al-Brahaha. This is it's ha.
843
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,000
This we can hear we can develop. We cannot develop.
844
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,000
I never think in terms of... I know this is data.
845
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000
I don't think about... I don't think about data.
846
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,000
Why not?
847
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Because I think about... I'm a Jew.
848
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,000
I'm a settler.
849
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,000
I'm a human being.
850
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,000
Yes, you are. So, I do not think about this.
851
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,000
You're thinking about tribalism, thinking of your own people to the exclusion.
852
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,000
It would be understandable to think of your own people or your own children first,
853
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:18,000
but to think about other people, other children, not at all, that seems sociopathic.
854
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,000
I cannot...
855
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,000
Doesn't it?
856
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,000
No, not at all. This is normal.
857
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,000
To my children, I give everything because I...
858
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,000
That normal thing for me is to pray for my own people.
859
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,000
That's it. So now I continue.
860
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,000
I hope you push me back.
861
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:56,000
And so I said goodbye to Daniela and her extreme ideology delivered with a smile.
862
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:06,000
14 years on from my first visit with the horror of October 7th in the interim,
863
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:14,000
and the ongoing devastation of Gaza, the settler dream shows no sign of abating,
864
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:20,000
along with the dislocation, displacement and death that follows inevitably in its train.
865
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:28,000
I've watched by ideologues backed up by those in power and accountable only to God.
70588
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