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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Do you want to show where we are right now? 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Because I think we're quite deep inside what are called the Palestinian territories. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,000 What you call the Palestinian territories, I call it the heart of Judea. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 If you say the Palestinian territories, you're essentially already saying 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 that this right here is going to be 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,000 a jihadist Palestinian state 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,000 right in the heart of Israel, not only in the heart of Israel, we're talking about like 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,000 the 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Why couldn't it just be a Palestinian state? 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Okay, to understand the Arab way of thinking that they understand 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 there's a war. They win the war if they get territory. 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 They lose the war if they lose territory. You could flip that and say 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,000 well that's what in a sense you're doing. That's what I aspire to do. 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 That's what I aspire to do. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Beyond the eastern edge of Israel, 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:04,000 is the Palestinian territory of the West Bank. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 It was occupied in war by Israel in 1967 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 since then hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,000 have moved here illegally under international law. 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,000 Among them, a group of religious nationalists 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 who see it as their divine right to build a greater Israel 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 and drive out the Palestinians who've been here for generations. 23 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,000 I made a film about them in 2011 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,000 but now since the attack of October 7th, I'd heard that they were 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,000 accelerating the settlement process. 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Why are you feeling me? 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,000 I'm protected by the Israeli military. 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,000 I'd come to try to understand their mindset 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,000 and to see the consequences of their ultra-nationalist vision up close. 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Oh, damn. They don't see us as equal human beings 31 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 who deserve the same rights they do. 32 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I was close to Israel's southern border. 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:30,000 At a viewpoint, tourists were surveying the ruins of Gaza. 34 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:36,000 The Palestinian death toll at this point was more than 43,000 and rising 35 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 in a war that had commenced a year earlier after Hamas gunmen attacked 36 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,000 Israeli communities, killing more than a thousand and taking hundreds more hostage. 37 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Now with bombs falling nearby, 38 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 settlers from across the West Bank were holding a chamboree 39 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000 to promote the idea of putting new Jewish outposts in Gaza. 40 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 With workshops offering practical advice, 41 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,000 while a vanguard made their case in front of the world's media. 42 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,000 How are you doing? 43 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Louis. 44 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Nice to meet you, Ovi. 45 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 And why are you here today? 46 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 To show support and that I believe that Gaza's arts, 47 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 that we need to be living there. 48 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 To those Palestinians who say, well, we'd like to live in the Palestinian state, 49 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,000 what do you say? 50 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,000 The Bible says this place was given to the Jews, the space is ours. 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 It's a Jewish name. 52 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,000 What's your name? 53 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Alan. 54 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Aaron, nice to meet you. 55 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Louis, where are you from? 56 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 I'm from Ereven. 57 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,000 And before that, 58 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 until I was nine years old, lived in New York, 59 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 and then my parents made a riad to Israel. 60 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,000 We're here, call our government to go and settle Gaza. 61 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,000 We're here because we have a right to be here. 62 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Our right to be in this land is the Torah, is the godly promise, 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 where we don't settle, terroglots. 64 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Among the attendees were many senior political figures, 65 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000 including Israel's Minister of National Security. 66 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:41,000 In his youth, 67 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 not now, not now. 68 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:26,000 We, the settlement movement, organized this event in order to enhance the practical idea 69 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:35,000 of establishing Jewish settlements in the entire Gaza Strip. 70 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 We very much encourage and enable the population in Gaza. 71 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:51,000 To go to other countries, your rereadness, how Jews go to Gaza and Arabs disappear from Gaza. 72 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,000 They lost their right to stay in this holy place. 73 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Please go. 74 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Thank you very much. 75 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Thank you. 76 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Thank you. 77 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:07,000 It's not long. 78 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,000 From up on a nearby hill, they came the sound of protesting. 79 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,000 It's so good. 80 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 It's so good. 81 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,000 An Israeli group demonstrating for a ceasefire and the return of hostages taken by Hamas. 82 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 What are you doing here? 83 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,000 I think the idea of least settling Gaza is absolutely ridiculous. 84 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,000 The question is, what kind of country do we want to be? 85 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Do we want to be a colonizing country? 86 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Or do we want to be a country that at least offers peace and wants to live in peace with the Palestinians? 87 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000 That has to be what we strive for. 88 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:56,000 I've been hoping for a moment with Daniella, but then came a warning of a possible rocket attack and the event was quickly evacuated. 89 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:02,000 Let's grab the cameras and let's go. 90 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Wow. 91 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,000 I want you. 92 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:21,000 For Jewish settlers, Gaza is the latest frontier in a process that's been unfolding for decades across the West Bank. 93 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000 A region of not much more than 5,000 square kilometers. 94 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,000 The West Bank is home to around three million Palestinians. 95 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:39,000 Most of them living in large cities with limited autonomy under the Palestinian Authority. 96 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:45,000 The Israeli military occupied the area in the Six-Day War in 1967. 97 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Since then, hundreds of thousands of Israelis have moved in to form settlements, 98 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:59,000 hoping to expand Jewish presence in the region or simply looking for cheap housing. 99 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Often they start out as a few tents or caravans, pitched by ultra ideological settlers on hilltops next to Palestinian towns. 100 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,000 These are known as outposts. 101 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,000 They are illegal under Israeli law until they are authorized as settlements, 102 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,000 but both settlements and outposts are illegal under international law. 103 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,000 The army nevertheless protects them. 104 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Hello. How are you? 105 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Everything's great. Where are you from? London, England. Oh, nice. Where are you from? Russia. 106 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Russia. 107 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Most settlements tend to be suspicious of media, but I'd managed to get an appointment at one called Evyatah. 108 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,000 It had started out as an outpost on the edge of the Palestinian town of Beitah. 109 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,000 It was only recognized as a settlement by the Israeli state a few months earlier. 110 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Good morning. How are you? I'm fine. How are you? You must be Malchiel. I'm Louis. How do you do? I'm fine. Thank you. 111 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Thank you for coming. 112 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,000 One of its founders is Horserangula, Malchiel Baha'i. 113 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,000 All right. So let me show you a bit about Beitah. 114 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:19,000 I'm just going to have to ask you not to take any films of the army base. That's where the sitting. 115 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,000 So there's an army base? This is an army base. That's where the dormitories are. 116 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:30,000 And this is a house people living here. The army bases for your security for all the region security. 117 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:37,000 The story about Evyatah, this was held top. We started from day one living in tents. 118 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:45,000 And by then over a month, we were 50 families living here in these houses. All of these houses were built back then. 119 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Coming from where? All over the country. Should we go inside? 120 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:56,000 All right. It is a little untidy. This is where you're living at the moment? Yes. 121 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:03,000 This is our humble home. This is our living room, our kitchen. 122 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,000 How many children do you have? Eight. Four boys and four girls. Wow. 123 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Behind here we have another kids' room. This is a girls' bedroom. Two older girls, 13 and 11. They sleep here. 124 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,000 And over there, this is a laundry bathroom and a shower. 125 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,000 So where do you stay? My mom and dad. This is me and my wife. You and your wife are in there. 126 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 If it rains? If it does rain, so we'll go into the small caravan. 127 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Hopefully we'll finish building the house before winter is here. 128 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Do you enjoy being out on the frontier where it's a bit more rough and ready where there's more uncertainty? 129 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Our mission is to settle Israel, new settlements all over the country. 130 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:02,000 So most of the world sees this as the West Bank. There's occupied territory. It's under a military occupation. 131 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Correct? Like it's not part of the state of Israel as most nations recognize it. 132 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:17,000 The ancient name of this area is called Judea. The meaning of Judea is belong to the Jews. 133 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:24,000 So you can't take all the history, put it in the garbage and say, okay, it's not belong to the Jews. 134 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,000 The history says it belongs to the children. 135 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:36,000 The 136 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,000 selective reading of history that ignores the Palestinians who've lived in the land for generations. 137 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:46,000 The aim for settlements like Eviatar is to become full-fledged towns. 138 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:52,000 Guarded round the clock by soldiers, walled off from the millions around them. 139 00:11:53,000 --> 00:12:02,000 The godmother of the settler project, going back more than 50 years, is the woman I'd seen at the Gaza border event, Daniella Weiss. 140 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:10,000 I want to see big cities here, like a city of 2 million people. So it's not a settlement. 141 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Settlement is caravans. The trailer is a home here and a home there. This is not what my dream is about. 142 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:26,000 The trailers in that video of Daniella have now grown into the settlement of Qedumim where she still lives. 143 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Hi, my name is William. 144 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Supported by some in the Israeli government, Daniella is viewed by others in power as a dangerous extremist. 145 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,000 She'd agreed to talk to me at home. 146 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 My name is Melcholomcholio. 147 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Nice to see you. So we've got pictures of you as a young woman. Is the one of you getting married? Is that the oldest one? 148 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:02,000 This is when we got together. I was then 15 or something. 149 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Your parents were from? 150 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:15,000 My mother was born in Warsaw. My parents came here and invested fortunes, living. 151 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Someday there will be a joy state. With their vision and their faith, I continue to expand the Israel and to be as close as possible to the promised land. 152 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:39,000 This is your map. So this is what most of the world knows is the West Bank, which you call Judeon-Smeria. 153 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,000 This is what you call occupied West Bank. 154 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,000 And what the Palestinians would like to see is a future state of their own. 155 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Oh, they are not satisfied with this, but a complicated issue. 156 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,000 These little pink wedges, what do they represent? 157 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:04,000 The Jewish communities that were established since 1967. 158 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:13,000 I'm curious to know roughly how many settlements and outposts you've been, let's say, in some way involved in the establishment. 159 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Almost everyone. 160 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,000 For real? 161 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,000 It's 50 years. You know what it means? 50 years that I do what I do today? 162 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Because it's a territory that was won in the 67 War, that under the Geneva Convention transferring a civilian population into a conquered terrain, that's considered a war crime. 163 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 What I do here is a war crime. 164 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,000 According to the UN. 165 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,000 You know, cooperating with the President of the committed war crime? 166 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Well, I'm interviewing you. 167 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:50,000 It's a light felony. 168 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:58,000 I've read a couple of things suggesting that you were viewed as an extremist and possibly sympathizing with Jewish or Israeli terror. 169 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,000 The confrontation is not over terror. 170 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:10,000 The confrontation is just on whether, yes or no, we stay here. 171 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:18,000 There's quote, so alarming is the situation. It's talking about the situation of settlers and what they describe as settler extremism and violence. 172 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Last week, Ronan Barr, the head of the Israel Security Service, wrote to Netanyahu, the Prime Minister and the Defense Minister warning that what he called Jewish terror by violent settlers was doing indescribable damage to Israel. 173 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:39,000 The reason Ronan Barr says that I'm extremist has nothing to do with terror. 174 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Whatever I represent threatens his peaceful secular life. 175 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,000 I have nothing to do with terror. He knows I have nothing to do with terror. 176 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 And he insists on saying it. 177 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 It's a lie. And he knows that it's a lie. 178 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:04,000 He doesn't like me because I have a lot of influence much more than he is. 179 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Influence over who? 180 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,000 The young generation that is growing in Israel. 181 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000 And government too. 182 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 And government what? 183 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Do you have influence over government? 184 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000 No question. Who did all this? 185 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 Can you call Netanyahu? 186 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,000 What do you mean? Like this? 187 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,000 No, how do you call his aides? 188 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:39,000 So the idea is to force the government by putting people, starts with small settlements, then they get bigger, then they get recognized by the state of Israel and basically creating a new demographic reality. 189 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:46,000 We do not force the government. We do for governments what they cannot do for themselves. 190 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Even if you take Netanyahu now, he is very happy with what we do here and also about our plans to build Jewish communities in Gaza. He is happy about it. 191 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 But he cannot say it. He says the opposite. 192 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 It's not realistic. 193 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,000 God! We will make it realistic. 194 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,000 It's not forcing the government. He's helping the government. 195 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,000 It's step number one in politics. 196 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:28,000 You don't force the government. You give the government the courage, the ability, the public support, the political support. 197 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,000 I think you understand what I said. 198 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Even if you disagree. 199 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:53,000 There was something unsettling about hearing Daniela's ethno-nationalist vision being laid out so plainly, especially when I considered the support she claimed to have from some in power. 200 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:05,000 With their backing, the settlement project has accelerated, with many of those going to live in West Bank settlements coming from other countries. 201 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Anyone from anywhere in the world with Jewish heritage, since they qualify for Israeli citizenship, can live in a settlement. 202 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Have you ever been to Judea? Well, consider this an invitation, because I could try to describe it to you in words, but it would just be impossible. 203 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Arya Brahmavitz was born and raised in Texas. He now helps run Arugot Farm. 204 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,000 A small retreat hosting birthdays, weddings and corporate events, often catering to tourists. 205 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:51,000 The farm was established as an outpost in 2014, illegally according to international law, on land deep inside the occupied West Bank. 206 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Hi, we're going to Arugot Farm. Thank you. 207 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Are you Arya? I am! There you are! How are you doing? Good to meet you. Welcome, welcome. 208 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:15,000 Nice to meet you. Louis. Louis. Yes. Sanonos. Louis. Louis. Louis. Yes. Or Louis, I don't mind too much. 209 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Welcome to Judea. You've come armed. 210 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,000 But we're so friendly. I know how it looks. I know it's not true. 211 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,000 So this is our synagogue. And I remember when I first came here, I wanted to build my house here. 212 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:44,000 And then I learned that according to Judea's law, you build the synagogue in the highest place, which makes sense. 213 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:51,000 Well, my home is going to be lording over the synagogue. I wouldn't be right. These are the Torah scrolls. 214 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Is it weird to have your guns on in here? 215 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:06,000 No. My gun is here to protect the nation of Israel from those that seek to harm us. 216 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,000 But during a service, would you typically wear them? 217 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,000 Yes. Is it that dangerous? It is until it's not. 218 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Thank God it never had any issues of infiltrations here. 219 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 And I think it's because they know that we're ready for it. 220 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 How old were you when you came to Israel? 221 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:34,000 I think it was 16. I came here after high school to study Torah. 222 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,000 It was supposed to be a few months. It's called the Gap Year program. 223 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:47,000 When you breathe the air, when you taste that, when you feel mission and passion in life, you can't go back. 224 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,000 This is where I choose to come and pray with the creator of heaven and earth. 225 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,000 I think this is the most beautiful place in the world right here. 226 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Where's the nearest Palestinian town? I'm so uncomfortable using the word Palestinian because I don't think that it exists. 227 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:17,000 You don't think they really exist? I don't think that they exist as a real nation with a real claim to this land. 228 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,000 What are they then? They are the Arabs with a connection to this land. 229 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Yes, they have a connection to it. It's nowhere near the depth and I mean we were in this land planting vineyards before Muhammad was in the third grade. 230 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Is that a settlement there? That is a Jewish settlement called the Pnekhedem. 231 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Pnekhedem, which means facing the east, face to the east. 232 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Would that be considered legal under Israeli law? 233 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,000 I don't know. You don't really care. I don't care at all. 234 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,000 At all. I don't care at all. Why don't you care? 235 00:21:53,000 --> 00:22:06,000 This land here in the heart of Judea, there's some things that transcend the whims of legislation and this is one of those things. 236 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:19,000 For millions of Palestinians up and down the West Bank, the presence of settlers makes life precarious. 237 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:35,000 They live under Israeli military law, restricted from most Israeli roads, subject to frequent run-ins with the authorities and detention without trial, in a legal system that is opaque and arbitrary. 238 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Israel says the measures are necessary for security. 239 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:55,000 I was in the south Hebron Hills during the olive harvest, a time when tensions run high, with Palestinians prevented from getting to trees they say they've harvested for years. 240 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:02,000 How are you doing? I was curious to see the interactions for myself. 241 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I'd heard from an Israeli activist group, they were trying to help a farmer named Ishark Jabarin. 242 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Hello. Hello. 243 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,000 Hello. What's happening here today? 244 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,000 I'm not a professor, I'm not a professor, I'm not a liberal. 245 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:25,000 I'm a professor, I'm a very young man. I'm a very young man. 246 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Yeah. I know. I like the southland for having a family and I'm very proud of both. 247 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:42,000 It was the project for the strengthening of the lands, wilderness of the land in the Tales of Ruth. 248 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,000 And this part of it has driven lands with the darganders 249 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Galaxy, you're trying to do something? 250 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,000 and nearby settlement had allegedly called them to report the olive picking. 251 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:30,000 One of those on the scene was a long time Israeli activist mathematician Kobe Sneaks. 252 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Kobe do you know what they're doing right now? 253 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:39,000 The army has said you got to leave in five minutes and now the landowner has to make a choice 254 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,000 if to try to insist on staying here and taking a risk. 255 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:51,000 They're liable to do anything. They could arrest the Palestinians, they can arrest us. 256 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Who knows what they might do. 257 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Have you been arrested before? 258 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Do you think he would have been arrested? 259 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,000 40% of all Palestinian men have been arrested, so probably. 260 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,000 They're all informed? 261 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 British television. 262 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Bus codes. 263 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Thank you. 264 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Anyone else want to take my passport? 265 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,000 I need to check. 266 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Check what? 267 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Check what? 268 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Nothing, they don't check anything, they just understand. 269 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000 They're just a bit lost. 270 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,000 They're just a bit of money. 271 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 They're just a bit of money. 272 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000 If he kept picking he would have been arrested? 273 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000 No, it's not to arrest. 274 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 To just evacuate the area. 275 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Meaning what, though, if he says I'm not leaving? 276 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000 I'm grateful we didn't get to that part. 277 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,000 Because what would happen? 278 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 I actually have done. 279 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 As a soldier you would have to do what detain him? 280 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,000 That's... 281 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,000 No. 282 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 I would have not taken him. 283 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:18,000 Alongside their interactions with the army, Palestinians throughout the West Bank also suffer attacks by settlers. 284 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000 These videos come from the South Hebron Hills where I'd seen the olive picking. 285 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:33,000 In the town of Tawani, a settler was caught on camera shooting and severely injuring a Palestinian man. 286 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:41,000 The shooter had his gun license revoked, but he was never arrested. 287 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000 I'd heard of other similar incidents. 288 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:58,000 In the same town of Tawani, I'd made contact with a 20-year-old Palestinian student and local activist named Mohammed Hireini. 289 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:07,000 He'd offered to take me to the top of the hill to meet his neighbor who lives at a spot closest to a settlement. 290 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Louis, it's nice to meet you. 291 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Thank you for having us. 292 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Mosab Rubay's house still bears the scars of what he says were settler attacks. 293 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 You can see, like, from the wind up in the pullet. 294 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000 So, there's bullets that have come through here? 295 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Yeah. 296 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000 From this window and that window. 297 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,000 This is the settler attacks. 298 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,000 This and this one. 299 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Without bright light is? 300 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Yeah. 301 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000 So, what is that? 302 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Is that an outpost or what is that? Is there anyone in there? 303 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Hang on, something's happening. 304 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,000 What is it? 305 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,000 It's the salt. Are they coming in? 306 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000 They are screaming to us. 307 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000 I don't know. There is a little bit of tension. 308 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,000 I see the ladies around the rock. 309 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Take show, Zara. 310 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 It's happening with us. 311 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Everything. 312 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000 What do we do? Just stay in here? 313 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Yeah, we are inside. 314 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 My turn, what do you think? 315 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,000 It's not safe at the moment. There's obviously multiple guns pointing at us. 316 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,000 We have Littuet. 317 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000 What can we do? Can we call the police? 318 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 Which police? 319 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,000 I mean, they are one. One regime. 320 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000 It doesn't matter. 321 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,000 No, because, I mean, we raised in this situation, so it became a normal reality for us. 322 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,000 When you are a kid, you just feel this army invading your home in the day, on the night. 323 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:14,000 You grow up on this injustice reality that it became normal for you as a human, but it's not normal for anybody. 324 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000 And no one should accept it. 325 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:27,000 After more than an hour, the soldiers appeared to lose interest, and the crew and I slipped away. 326 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:45,000 The violence committed by some settlers is often justified by them as a response to violence they experienced from Palestinians. 327 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Which is much less frequent. Nevertheless, it's hard to disentangle it from an ideology of the superiority of one group and their rights over another, promoted by leaders like Daniela Weiss. 328 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Hiya, how are you? 329 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Hey, how are you? 330 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000 I'm good. 331 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000 I'm hoping for more insight into her and her work, I was back. 332 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Then I have a meeting. So, but do I have a seat? 333 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Thank you. 334 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,000 I'm looking for a seat. 335 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000 I'm looking for a seat. 336 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 I'm looking for a seat. 337 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000 I'm looking for a seat. 338 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000 So, we'll just wait. 339 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Great. 340 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,000 Okay, so now, follow me if you want to know. 341 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000 Are we leaving? 342 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,000 So, we're going to meet you there. 343 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Alright. 344 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,000 I was joining Daniela and some friends of hers in a convoy heading towards Gaza. 345 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Mission unclear. 346 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:04,000 Two hours later, we were one kilometer from the Gaza border in the Israeli town of Sterat. 347 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Arriving at a yeshiva, a religious school, where Daniela took part in an assembly. 348 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Alongside two prominent rabbis. 349 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 What's happening next, Daniela? 350 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Should we follow you? 351 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000 We'll follow him. 352 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Our next stop was a memorial for the victims of October 7th. 353 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Sterat had seen heavy fighting during Hamas attacks and suffered many losses. 354 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,000 For some passes by, Daniela held a degree of celebrity status. 355 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Then the settler convoy arrived at what seemed to be its destination. 356 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,000 A viewpoint overlooking the war zone. 357 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Daniela had told me she'd signed up 800 families who were ready to move into Gaza. 358 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 One of her team explained how it would work. 359 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:45,000 The idea seemed to be to get spiritual buy-in from the two rabbis. 360 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000 One of them was next to speak, Rabbi Dov Leor. 361 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,000 He was a very good man. 362 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 He was a very good man. 363 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,000 He was a very good man. 364 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,000 He was a very good man. 365 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 He was a very good man. 366 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 He was a very good man. 367 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 He was a very good man. 368 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 He was a very good man. 369 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 He was a very good man. 370 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,000 He was a great man. 371 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000 He was very good. 372 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000 He was a very good man. 373 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000 He was a very good man. 374 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000 I remember. 375 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,000 He was a very good man. 376 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,000 He was a very good man. 377 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:20,000 As the day ended, we were following Daniela's car, driving on what seemed to be army-controlled 378 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000 land, approaching ever closer to the Gaza border. 379 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000 I can see the destroytizers. 380 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,000 It had previously been reported that Daniela had been illegally escorted into Gaza by 381 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:39,000 soldiers who supported her, to wreck your locations for settlement. 382 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Suddenly her vehicle broke away. 383 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000 On this occasion she was intercepted. 384 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:06,000 So basically she had a military escort and then she just peeled away and made a sprint 385 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 for the border of Gaza. 386 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000 Yeah. 387 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,000 She's just tried to run away from the army, hasn't she? 388 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:25,000 Did you try and make a dash to put the Gaza border? 389 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000 What was happening down there? 390 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,000 I enjoyed it so much. 391 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Our two jeeps were due too much attention. 392 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000 But what's the idea? 393 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Why do you want to go down to the Gaza? 394 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Actually, you want to get into Gaza? 395 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Why do you want to go down to the Gaza border? 396 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:55,000 What I wanted to do, I wanted to show the rabbis that Gaza is not something beyond reach. 397 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,000 Would you say October 7th made people more receptive to your message and to your point 398 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,000 of view? 399 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000 No doubt. 400 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:13,000 The October 7th naturally made people more receptive to the idea of the Great Israel. 401 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:22,000 But the next step to his settlements in Gaza is a very difficult step that demands a lot 402 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,000 of work. 403 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:30,000 You have to influence the leftist, the government, the nations of the world. 404 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Using the magic system, Zionism, you will be in the land, you establish communities, 405 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:52,000 you bring Jewish families, you live Jewish life, and this will bring light instead of darkness. 406 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 And this is how the state of Israel was established. 407 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,000 And this is what we want to do in Gaza. 408 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:06,000 This process of making the whole of the West Bank in Gaza Jewish, do you feel like it's 409 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000 moving more quickly? 410 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:16,000 As far as Judaism is concerned, so we want to move from 1 million to 2 million. 411 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000 So this is the next step. 412 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000 This is my vision. 413 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 I'm so complicated. 414 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Daniela's vision has been made possible by the Israeli occupation. 415 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:44,000 But it in turn has led to the creation of a vast military infrastructure which impacts 416 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000 every aspect of Palestinian life. 417 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,000 Nowhere is it more evident than in Hebron. 418 00:37:53,000 --> 00:38:02,000 Hebron is an ancient Biblical city, home to some 200,000 Palestinians, a place wholly 419 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000 to three major religions. 420 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Hi, how are you? 421 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,000 We're from the British TV crew. 422 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:21,000 In 1968, the year after it was occupied by Israel, a community of Jewish settlers moved 423 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000 in illegally. 424 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,000 They now number around 700 existing in a cordon of military protection. 425 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,000 I visited in 2010 when I spent time with a settler leader. 426 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Now 14 years on, I was curious about life within the Palestinian community. 427 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000 I'm Louis. 428 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Hi, Louis. 429 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Nice to meet you. 430 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,000 Welcome. 431 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,000 Thank you for having us. 432 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:54,000 Yissa Amro, a Palestinian activist, was born here in the settler occupied area. 433 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000 You've got fences all around? 434 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 All around. 435 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000 Pences from here? 436 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Yeah. 437 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Who lives on the other side? 438 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Is there a settler? 439 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000 We've got army there. 440 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,000 What are they doing? 441 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Have they come for a reason? 442 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000 No, they come for intimidation. 443 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,000 How are you? 444 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,000 They're not speaking, but I think what they would say is, well, we're here to bring 445 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:26,000 security to the settlers who live here and want to live in peace and experience animosity 446 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000 from the Palestinians. 447 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,000 So they want to live in peace and the expense of my basic human rights. 448 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 I didn't choose to live in Hebron. 449 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,000 I was born in Hebron. 450 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000 It's my land. 451 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000 It's my homeland. 452 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000 The settlers chose to come here. 453 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,000 And if it's not safe for them, why do you continue building more and more settlements 454 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,000 in my own city? 455 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000 By international law, the settlements are illegal. 456 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:55,000 They don't see us as equal human beings who deserve the same rights they do. 457 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Lead the way. 458 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Yeah. 459 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:05,000 For nearly 20 years, ESA has been an advocate for nonviolent resistance against the occupation. 460 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:11,000 He is one of around 30,000 Palestinians living inside the high security area of Hebron, 461 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000 the so-called sterile zone. 462 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,000 For them, just doing their shopping, going to work, or going to school means passing through 463 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000 military checkpoints. 464 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Let's see how it works. 465 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Hi. 466 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Hi. 467 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000 How are you guys doing? 468 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000 Good. How are you? 469 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000 Fine. Everything okay? 470 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,000 I need your passport, please. 471 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 All of you, okay? 472 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 Sure. 473 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000 What for? 474 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Why? 475 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Check. 476 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Why, ESA, how are you doing, mate? 477 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 How are you doing? 478 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Hi. 479 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000 Why are you covering your faces? 480 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Because of the coil. 481 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000 No. 482 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Come on, guys. 483 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Don't hide. 484 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Only gangs hide their faces. 485 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,000 You are a military. 486 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000 You should have your faces, you know, obvious to everybody. 487 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,000 You know it, sir. 488 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000 You live here. 489 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,000 Yeah, he does. 490 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Father. 491 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 He says it's making life very difficult to have this another. 492 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 What are you doing here? 493 00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,000 What are you all doing here? 494 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000 What am I doing here? 495 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Make your documentary. 496 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 The commentary for prison television. 497 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Of what? 498 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000 About settlers in the West Bank. 499 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000 Settlers in the West Bank? 500 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000 Yes. 501 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000 What? 502 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000 What do you tell to the television about the settlements? 503 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000 It's not about what I'm telling them, it's about what I'm hearing from the people who I speak to. 504 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Where do you live? 505 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000 I don't want to tell you. 506 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,000 Okay. 507 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,000 I told you where I went. 508 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,000 It's a jarrabรฉ. 509 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000 It's a jarrabรฉ. 510 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000 What does that mean? 511 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000 It's a enjoy from the trip in Caron here. 512 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000 Thank you. 513 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Wish you all the best, guys. 514 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 How is life here? 515 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000 It's like you're very well armed. 516 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Is there a situation here that needs careful control? 517 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000 Of course. 518 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,000 What is it? 519 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000 Tell me about it. 520 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 My love, so glad we're all. 521 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000 It's wonderful. 522 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,000 What was he saying about Aravi? 523 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,000 Oh, he wanted to see if you're on an Aravi. 524 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,000 He asked you to speak Arabic. 525 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 How are you doing? 526 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,000 What's up? 527 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Hey, how are you doing? 528 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,000 No, excellent. 529 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000 American? 530 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000 What do I look, Chinese? 531 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,000 Yeah. 532 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,000 You're clean. 533 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,000 You're wet. 534 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Let me just pull over to the side. 535 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Okay. 536 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Do you know him? 537 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000 No, he doesn't sit here. 538 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000 You're okay? 539 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,000 Do you need help? 540 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,000 You're okay? 541 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000 No. 542 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000 Are you stuck? 543 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,000 You were a rot. 544 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Yeah. 545 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000 I can't see him. 546 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000 What's wrong with you? 547 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,000 What's wrong with you? 548 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Why are you filming me? 549 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 It's all good, don't worry. 550 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000 We can't even see your face. 551 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,000 Let your obscure. 552 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 No one can even see who you are. 553 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Don't worry. 554 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,000 I don't know what to do with you. 555 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000 I have work to do. 556 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Get on with you, boys. 557 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000 You're fine. 558 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000 You stay here? 559 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Have a sit there? 560 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000 In the check post and filming everything, you can't do this. 561 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,000 Here, okay? 562 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000 Come with me. 563 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000 Wait, no, you can't do that. 564 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 565 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000 No, no, no. 566 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Don't touch me. 567 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,000 No, don't touch me. 568 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000 No, Berlin. 569 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,000 Listen to me. 570 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000 I'm listening. 571 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Come. 572 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Come to me. 573 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000 I'm from the military, okay? 574 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000 Okay? 575 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000 I'm the idea of Israel Defense Forces. 576 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000 I'm above the police here in the West Bank. 577 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,000 Okay? 578 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,000 I'm the highest responsibility of law. 579 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Okay? 580 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000 We'll tell you like this, okay? 581 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,000 And as this man, IDF, I need to tell you, not staying here. 582 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000 Okay, we'll move along. 583 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,000 That's fine. 584 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Okay, live this place. 585 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000 Live this area, okay? 586 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,000 Yeah, we'll move along. 587 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Right now, Yala. 588 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,000 Father, wait. 589 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Let's go. 590 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Yala, let's go. 591 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000 So who lives here? 592 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Palestinian Foundation. 593 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 And where are they? 594 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000 They are hiding behind the indoors. 595 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,000 What would stop these shops from being open? 596 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,000 It's closed by military orders. 597 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,000 And marked as closed shops. 598 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,000 It's marked. 599 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,000 From this shop would be five families at least live and earn their living. 600 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Look, this is something new. 601 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,000 This not to hire Arab workers in Israel. 602 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000 Two faces. 603 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Two faces of Arab and a face of a terrorist. 604 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,000 And this is how they stereotype us. 605 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Middle finger. 606 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000 You gave you the middle finger? 607 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,000 Yes. 608 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000 You too. 609 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000 You think it was to me? 610 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000 I think it was to you. 611 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000 To both of us. 612 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,000 Because you deserve the middle finger if you report about Palestinians. 613 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000 It's a very good station. 614 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000 It's a very good station. 615 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,000 Wait, wait. 616 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:39,000 I did, please. 617 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 For what reason? 618 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,000 The police. 619 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000 I want to ask you to ask. 620 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,000 Yes. 621 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000 I'm sorry. 622 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,000 I'm sorry. 623 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000 I'm sorry. 624 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000 I know that I'm allowed to be here. 625 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000 I'm sorry. 626 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,000 Today, we are almost allowed. 627 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000 Why can't he be with us? 628 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,000 Because we are a limit for Palestinians. 629 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,000 So if he lives here, he can't. 630 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,000 It's, you know, give me what I did. 631 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000 How come Palestinians can't come down here? 632 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000 We'll play this. 633 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,000 We'll come around. 634 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000 We're not talking to you. 635 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,000 It seems ironic that that's the visitor's centre, right? 636 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000 The tourists and whatnot. 637 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,000 And he can't actually visit in his own city. 638 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000 You knew that was going to happen? 639 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,000 No. 640 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,000 It's new that they ask me to come back to here. 641 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,000 He told me that I'm allowed only to here. 642 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000 So they expanded the closed area for me. 643 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000 What's it all about? 644 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Taking more and more land. 645 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,000 It's about fragmented life, restricted life for Palestinians. 646 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000 No quality life. 647 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,000 You live with the basics. 648 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000 With the basics, even with less than basics, 649 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000 with our family needs. 650 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000 To make you live. 651 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000 And they are doing well. 652 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000 The majority of the houses are empty. 653 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000 The families are leaving. 654 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,000 You could flip it and say, well, if they really wanted to occupy the whole of Hebron, 655 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:23,000 or at least this area, they could literally deport Palestinians. 656 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 They do it slowly. 657 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000 But now they are speeding up. 658 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,000 They want approval from their allies and their partners in the world. 659 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000 Is it worth going through to see the other side? 660 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000 Yes, they can see what it looks like. 661 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:50,000 This gives you a little flavor of what it was like in there before. 662 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,000 Yes. 663 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000 The market was much more busy inside. 664 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000 It was our Oxford Street inside. 665 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,000 So busy. 666 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000 My father used to hold my arm not to lose me. 667 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,000 Not anymore. 668 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,000 It's close completely. 669 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000 It's restricted. 670 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,000 In order to get back in, we can't go through there now because they have closed. 671 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,000 It's closed. 672 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,000 So how do we get back in? 673 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000 You drive from another checkpoint. 674 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,000 Through here? 675 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,000 Yes. 676 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,000 Louis! 677 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 Coming through? 678 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000 Yes. 679 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,000 Okay, just one more. 680 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000 One is a green green. 681 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,000 I'm fine. 682 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,000 I'm fine. 683 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,000 I'm fine. 684 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,000 Go for it. 685 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,000 Go for it. 686 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,000 Go for it. 687 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,000 Go for it. 688 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000 So now we're on the other side of the area where you couldn't walk before, right? 689 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000 Yes. 690 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000 Where they stopped you from walking in front of the visitor center. 691 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000 But you need to get home. 692 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,000 Yes. 693 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,000 So what will you do? 694 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000 I will go around again. 695 00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:03,000 I will go outside this checkpoint, go around to enter from another checkpoint and wait till the checkpoint opens to get into my house with my son. 696 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000 You definitely can't come this way. 697 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,000 I can't come this way. 698 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,000 Okay. 699 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,000 I can. 700 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,000 They won't let you through. 701 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,000 No, they will not. 702 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,000 I'm not allowed. 703 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000 I was happy to meet you. 704 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,000 Thank you so much. 705 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Take care. 706 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,000 Bye bye. 707 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:30,000 I'm happy. 708 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:43,000 On the drive back from Hebron, I reflected on the separate lives lived by Israelis and Palestinians and the unequal system of rights and justice. 709 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,000 I ran into a traffic jam caused by a bomb scare. 710 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:58,000 The road, the main artery in the West Bank, is one of the few shared by Israelis and Palestinians. 711 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:05,000 For once, all were subject to delay. 712 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,000 It was the sobering experience visiting Hebron again. 713 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:21,000 He told me he believed life was being made intolerable for Palestinians deliberately to make them leave and that the process was speeding up since October 7th. 714 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:30,000 And it was true that some settlers I'd met supported the deportation of Palestinians who won't submit to Jewish authority. 715 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:39,000 One of them was Ari, a Texan born and raised in Houston, now resident deep inside the occupied West Bank. 716 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,000 Good to see you. 717 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,000 Good to see you. 718 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,000 How are you? 719 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000 All right. 720 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,000 Go on to the weather. 721 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,000 I'm sorry to hear that. 722 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Thank you for having us back. 723 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000 Hoping to understand a little better, I'd return to see him again. 724 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,000 Okay, okay. 725 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,000 We're ready for the coffee. 726 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000 I really hope I do a try. 727 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,000 I never know if you wear those guns just for effect. 728 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000 I don't know what effect I'm looking for. 729 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,000 Do I want to look more militant? 730 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,000 Yeah, no, I'm not wearing it just for effect. 731 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Do you want to sit down? 732 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:21,000 We've talked a lot about how you see the importance of Jewish presence in the, what's termed the biblical land of Israel. 733 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,000 Are you saying that you see Israel as playing a role for modeling a new kind of nationalism? 734 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Is that right? 735 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:37,000 I think that all of what's happening in the world right now is leading us as a nation to open our eyes to who we are. 736 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:49,000 We are the tip of the spear fighting the battles of America and defending the entire western world, and not just the western world, anyone who wants any semblance of liberty and freedom in their lives. 737 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:57,000 Nevertheless, there are millions of people up and down the area, Arabs, Muslims who aren't living free, right? 738 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:06,000 They're enclosed without the same rights, without national self-determination, and in many respects feeling besieged. 739 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,000 And I just wonder, do you see that? 740 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:20,000 I don't have tremendous compassion for a society that has an unquenchable, genocidal, theological bloodlust. 741 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000 It's like a death cult. 742 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:30,000 It seems to me that there's a danger with that characterization of Palestinians, you define them as eliminationists and hateful and genocidal. 743 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,000 I use the words death cult. 744 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:38,000 That permits you to almost create a mirror image of that. 745 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,000 You say, well if they want to do that to us, then we need to do that to them. 746 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:59,000 I think that when you're living amongst people who have perpetually proven, not only by word, but by deed, that they want your blood spilled in the streets, that they want to murder your children, that they want to slay all of you, kill all of you, in the most horrific genocide away. 747 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:12,000 That all of the polls showed after October 7th, that these people who you continuously call the Palestinian people, that I reject the very premise, that they are actually a real nation for a lot of reasons. 748 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:21,000 But the millions of people who have nothing to do with October 7th, who actually would like to live free full lives. 749 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:26,000 If that's really what they wanted, they would have had it a long time ago. 750 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,000 They want to wipe Israel off the map. They want every last Jew dead. 751 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:49,000 The answer is for us to declare sovereignty over all of Judea and Samaria, and all of the land of Israel, and Gaza, and to settle Gaza and all of Judea and Samaria with Jews in the land of Israel. 752 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,000 Did the question annoy you? 753 00:52:53,000 --> 00:53:00,000 Annoy me, I just hear it so often, and it feels like it's being addressed again and again and again. 754 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:10,000 Even if the entire world is pointing, accusing fingers and gnashing their teeth and rage and anger, we know the righteousness and the truth of our cause, even if we stand alone. 755 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,000 That's what it means to be a Hebrew, that's what it means to be a Jew. 756 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,000 If we know the truth of our cause, that's all we need. 757 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:30,000 For Ari, it was clear that nothing is greater than the word of God, and that word had led him to believe that it was the divine right of the Jewish people to settle and rule this land. 758 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,000 See you later. 759 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,000 God, I'm glad to protect you. I'm in. 760 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:45,000 The Bible was, as he saw it, a land deed to the West Bank. 761 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:55,000 With an afternoon three, I stopped for coffee in the Palestinian city of Nablus. 762 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:10,000 Surrounded by the ancient architecture of the old city and the undeniable fact of the hundreds of thousands of people living there and their aspirations for statehood. 763 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:20,000 At the edge of the city, we were held up at one of the many checkpoints that control the people entering and leaving. 764 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,000 Can you put the gun down? 765 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,000 I got the model. 766 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000 From London. 767 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,000 You've been in the market? 768 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,000 Yes. 769 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,000 You also? 770 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Yes. 771 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000 You're a Jew? 772 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,000 She's American. 773 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000 Can you show me ID? 774 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,000 Me? 775 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,000 Everyone. 776 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,000 Yes, sure. 777 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000 It's very slow going. 778 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000 We're in that queue for an hour or more. 779 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,000 Nice. 780 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000 How much time are you going to stay in there? 781 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000 Hang on, but I don't think we're in Israel. 782 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,000 Are we in Israel? 783 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000 You're in Israel now. 784 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,000 Are we? 785 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,000 Yes. 786 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,000 In the West Bank. 787 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,000 No? 788 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:14,000 In the north of the West Bank, I was heading back to the settlement of Eviatar, where I'd been hosted by Malkeel, the horse Wrangler. 789 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,000 Since my visit, I'd learned a little more about the settlement's relations with its neighboring Palestinian town of Beitah. 790 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:33,000 How Beitah had been subject to settler attacks, and how it, in turn, had organized regular protests of the settlement. 791 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,000 Demonstrators had been killed, and others wounded during the clashes. 792 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:45,000 One of the deaths of a Turkish-American volunteer, Aishinaou Ezki-Egi, made headlines. 793 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:56,000 Now the settlement was holding a festival to celebrate its recent recognition by the Israeli state. 794 00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:09,000 Entertainment's have been laid on, and families from settlements from around the West Bank had converged for a day of music and activities. 795 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,000 One of those speaking with Daniela. 796 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,000 In the hot goodbye, Mehimahot, Aishinaou. 797 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000 I guess, would. 798 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,000 How are you? 799 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,000 It's a bit quieter. 800 00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:05,000 As the festivities wound down, I had a moment to speak to Daniela on a hilltop overlooking the Palestinian town of Beitah. 801 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,000 So you've been talking about settling, you've talked about displacing, wanting the Palestinians to go. 802 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,000 You said to Africa, to Canada, to England, you don't care where? 803 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:20,000 What would be wrong with either a two-state solution or a one-state solution where everyone had the same rights? 804 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:29,000 We want to have a Jewish state based on Jewish rules, on Jewish values. 805 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000 It's not relationship of neighbors. 806 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,000 Why not? 807 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,000 Because we are two different nations. 808 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,000 Different. 809 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:47,000 I just wonder whether you feel or you're aware that they're really suffering, and there's been settlers rampaging through the area of the West Bank. 810 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,000 So there's all this... 811 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,000 Agitation. 812 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000 Death. 813 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000 Tragedy, right? 814 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,000 Tragedy. 815 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:07,000 When a people is invaded, right, and then put under a military occupation deprived of their rights, that anger seems to be an understandable response, an appropriate response. 816 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,000 There is no such thing as subtle violence. 817 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,000 Did they speak? I don't know if I felt... I don't mind saying it again. 818 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,000 I don't mind. I will be glad to explain it. 819 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,000 You don't believe it's real? There are videos. You can see them. 820 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,000 You see what? Okay? Let's say... 821 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,000 We have a camera right here. 822 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,000 Yes. 823 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,000 And I do this. 824 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,000 Yep. 825 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,000 Do something. You don't mind what I did to you. You don't decide to do anything. 826 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,000 Well, I won't do that to you. 827 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,000 You won't. 828 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,000 And then the camera takes just part. 829 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,000 You don't have the full picture. 830 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:49,000 Then I say you're violent. You're violent against a woman. 831 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:55,000 This is exactly what is going on all the time with what you call... 832 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,000 Settler violence. 833 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:07,000 Settlers do not wake up in the morning or do not go wait for sundown to attack. 834 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,000 No, no, no, no. 835 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:14,000 Why should we wake up in the morning and think about violence? 836 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,000 Why our life is good? 837 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,000 Because you want the Palestinians to leave. 838 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,000 No, no, no, no. 839 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,000 You've said so. 840 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:32,000 I said that what is on my mind all the time is how to bring more people to settle the land. 841 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,000 This is a new development by Jews. 842 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,000 This is Al-Brahaha. This is it's ha. 843 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,000 This we can hear we can develop. We cannot develop. 844 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,000 I never think in terms of... I know this is data. 845 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000 I don't think about... I don't think about data. 846 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,000 Why not? 847 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,000 Because I think about... I'm a Jew. 848 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,000 I'm a settler. 849 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,000 I'm a human being. 850 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,000 Yes, you are. So, I do not think about this. 851 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,000 You're thinking about tribalism, thinking of your own people to the exclusion. 852 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,000 It would be understandable to think of your own people or your own children first, 853 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:18,000 but to think about other people, other children, not at all, that seems sociopathic. 854 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,000 I cannot... 855 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,000 Doesn't it? 856 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,000 No, not at all. This is normal. 857 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:27,000 To my children, I give everything because I... 858 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,000 That normal thing for me is to pray for my own people. 859 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,000 That's it. So now I continue. 860 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,000 I hope you push me back. 861 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:56,000 And so I said goodbye to Daniela and her extreme ideology delivered with a smile. 862 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:06,000 14 years on from my first visit with the horror of October 7th in the interim, 863 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:14,000 and the ongoing devastation of Gaza, the settler dream shows no sign of abating, 864 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:20,000 along with the dislocation, displacement and death that follows inevitably in its train. 865 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:28,000 I've watched by ideologues backed up by those in power and accountable only to God. 70588

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