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December 2010
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started as a perfectly
ordinary month.
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The thing that changed everything
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was the weekend when
Joanna Yeates disappeared.
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She's vanished,
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literally vanished into thin air.
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It was an awful journey
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for the family of Joanna Yeates.
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In front of cameras invited
to record the moment,
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they went to the place
where her body was found.
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The press interest was immense.
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Joanna Yeates.
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- Joanna Yeates.
- Joanna Yeates.
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Are you able to give us
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any detail of what
it was you told them?
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I'm afraid not, No.
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Anything that I have said,
I have said to the police,
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and I'm not prepared to make
any comments to the media.
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The press absolutely
annihilated Chris Jefferies.
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It was open season.
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Much to my astonishment,
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I was arrested on
suspicion of Jo's murder.
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The police
were clearly affected by
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what was being written in the papers.
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10,000 pounds
Jefferies is your man.
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How on earth
can he have a fair trial?
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It was just that insatiable need
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to get the exclusives.
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It was detracting from the
hunt for Jo Yeates' killer.
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This was no longer about Jo.
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It was all about the story.
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It was almost like
she'd been forgotten,
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like her death was incidental.
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Go ahead, caller.
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Okay, basically,
I'd gone away for the weekend
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and I come back to find
my girlfriend's not here
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when she was expected to be,
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and all her important
stuff is still in the flat,
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such as her wallet, her keys,
her phone, her glasses, everything,
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and basically I've
just found that now,
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thinking that she'd come
home late and she'd be here,
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but she isn't.
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And what's her name, please?
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Joanna Yeates.
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My name is Richard Bunston.
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In 2010, I was a detective
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on Avon and Somerset's major
crime investigation team.
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Joanna's boyfriend Greg
had been in Sheffield
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and was calling her and
texting her repeatedly
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for a couple of days
with no response.
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Greg came back to the
flat, rang her phone,
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and it was ringing in her pocket.
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Her keys were there.
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Her shoes were there.
Her coat was there.
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She's vanished, literally
vanished into thin air.
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Every missing person is
investigated in the same way.
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You look at movements,
you look at phone use,
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you look at friends,
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you look at the last people
they had contact with,
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and you build a timeline,
and Jo was no different.
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We started inquiries
to check out that
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Greg had been where
he said he had been.
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It was very easy to ascertain
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that he'd been up in Sheffield,
visiting friends and family.
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She and Greg had a very
strong relationship.
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There was never a suggestion
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that they'd been having any
kind of issues or anything.
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We didn't know if there
was mental health issues,
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drugs or alcohol issues.
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Unfortunately, their flat is close to
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Clifton Suspension Bridge,
which was a notorious
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location for people to
commit suicide from.
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But there was absolutely nothing.
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She was happy at work, was
popular with her friends.
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There was absolutely no
reason for Jo to go missing.
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The night that Jo was last seen,
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we eventually pieced together
the movements from CCTV.
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She went from work to meet
friends in Ram's bar in Bristol,
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and then visited a couple
of different supermarkets.
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She'd gone to the
shops, bought some cider,
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told her friends that she was
gonna be baking all weekend.
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We were able to find the receipt
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for items that she'd purchased
that evening on her way home,
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so the assumption therefore
is that she's got home
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and has gone missing from home.
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My name is Christopher Jefferies.
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I was Joanna Yeates' landlord.
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My flat was on the first floor
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on the other side of
the building to Jo's.
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When Joanna Yeates disappeared,
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the first thing that
her boyfriend Greg did
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was to give me a ring.
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Greg wanted to know whether
I had any idea at all
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as to where she might be.
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I had met Jo once or twice
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after Jo and her boyfriend moved in.
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I can't claim to have
known her particularly well
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because she'd only been
in there a month or two
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at the time of her disappearance.
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There was one occasion.
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There was a leak into her
flat from the flat above,
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so I was contacted to
see what could be done.
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She was very, very pleasant.
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She was perhaps a little bit nervous.
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I say she was a little bit nervous
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because she was just
slightly hesitant
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at letting me into the flat.
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Everyone in that building
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needed to be treated
as a potential suspect.
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I was interviewed by the police
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following Jo's disappearance.
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On the night that Jo disappeared,
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I had arrived back in the
evening at about nine o'clock.
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I had been to the gym.
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I went straight into my flat
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and I spent the rest of
the evening in the flat.
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The police searched the
grounds of the house.
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People, they were baffled as
to what had happened because
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there was no sign of a break-in.
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I had keys to the flat.
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But there was absolutely
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no evidence or clues
or idea where she was.
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Like any big city.
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Bristol had more than its
fair share of missing persons.
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There are so many of those
almost on a daily basis,
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and not all of them end
up being publicized.
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Jo's disappearance was
completely out of character.
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We need to publicise this.
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We need to try and find Jo
and find out what's happened to her.
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A press release from
Avon and Somerset Police
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arrived in our inbox,
which notified us
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that Joanna Yeates had been missing
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after a night out in Clifton.
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You engage with the media
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because you need the public's help.
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The dream scenario is that
you engage with the media,
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you get the messages out there,
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and all being well, very quickly.
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The person concerned is found
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and they're found safe and well.
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But the job of a crime
reporter isn't necessarily
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just to regurgitate what
the police are telling them,
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but actually to tell the
public the whole story
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as much as they possibly can.
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As a local crime reporter,
you go door knocking,
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and I recall going up to
her house down Canynge Road,
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trying to speak to neighbors,
just trying to piece together
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if anyone had seen
her, heard from her.
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My flat was on the first floor.
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Joanna had rented one
of the garden flats
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on the other side of the building.
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I remember buzzing on the
buzzer and Christopher answered.
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He didn't come down.
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He just answered on the intercom,
but he didn't want speak.
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I was going to avoid the press
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as far as possible.
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Jo's friends had
set up a Facebook page
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to try and find her.
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This is only 15 years ago,
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but the social media landscape
back then wasn't a landscape,
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it was a garden.
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That was really one of the
first instances in a major case
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that we have seen people use
social media as a tool to help.
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But as social media
was in its infancy,
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the most effective way
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to get those kind of
messages out to people
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quickly and effectively
was to use the press.
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On the 21st of
December, Jo's mum and dad
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did their first media
appeal to the public.
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If you've got to the
stage where, quite early on,
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the family are sitting
in front of the cameras,
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you kind of know that there
are severe concerns about this
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and there are big, big worries.
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With missing people,
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sometimes the public can become
quite cynical about them.
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You need to appeal to
their hearts and minds,
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and as much as a police officer
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can stand in front of a camera
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and give a perfectly good
interview, when you've got parents
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sitting in front of cameras in tears,
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who cannot be moved by that?
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Who is not gonna want
to help in some way?
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Jo, whatever the reason
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that you have not been in
touch over the last few days,
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we want you to know
that we love you dearly.
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She's a white female.
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It's powerful.
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It really is powerful.
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When Joanna Yeates went missing,
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I was asked to go up to Bristol
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to try and find out backgrounds,
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to go and meet friends and
family, to befriend people,
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talk to them, hopefully
build up some sort of trust.
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Normally, you really had to
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work at getting a
story over Christmas.
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Everything was closed.
Parliament's not sitting.
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There's no stories going on,
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and suddenly we've got a lovely girl
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with a nice job and a good background
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and she's completely vanished
off the face of the earth.
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There's a phenomenon called
missing white woman syndrome,
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and that's 100% Jo.
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She was young. She was engaged.
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She was beautiful,
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blonde,
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white,
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middle class.
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Unfortunately, the
media don't always give
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the same amount of attention
to people that go missing
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that aren't of the same colour,
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that aren't of the same
socioeconomic background.
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She would be someone
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who our readership
would be concerned about
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and we'd want to follow the story.
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You mentioned there that
Greg tried to get in touch with her.
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Where you have a distraught family
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who are desperately
appealing for information
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about a missing member
of their family,
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you don't want a bun fight
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that you might get at some
political press conference.
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We miss her so much.
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Everybody's on their best behavior,
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trying to be as
sensitive as they can,
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and it's good practice for reporters,
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before the press conference starts,
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to nominate one reporter
to ask the questions,
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and on this occasion, we chose
a woman reporter to do it.
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You're doing very well.
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This might sound terribly
sexist, but I think we felt that
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her parents might respond
better to a female journalist
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because they were talking
about their missing daughter.
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Forgive me for asking this,
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but when you go through
all these scenarios,
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you must have contemplated
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that there could be
a dreadful outcome.
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How do you cope with that?
Mrs. Yeates, I'll ask you that.
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I go numb.
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With all this snow around,
I sometimes picture her lying.
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If, for some reason, she had
collapsed or had been discarded
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and she was alive,
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with all the snow
and the cold, I just
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can't bear the thought of it.
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I don't cope with it.
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The awful thing about
these press conferences,
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that as soon as
somebody gets tearful,
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you hear all the cameras
going off, click, click click.
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It looks terribly cynical.
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I don't think you can avoid all that.
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Images of families who are
making appeals tearful and crying
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are inevitably going to be the images
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that will be used in the
newspapers and on TV,
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but you don't want the
people making the appeals
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to have some terrible breakdown.
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This was a chance to talk
to those who loved her,
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who've known her since
the moment she was born,
256
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who could tell us
much more about her,
257
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and by them talking lucidly
258
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and almost happily
about the real Joanna,
259
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it's the sort of information
that might just prompt
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a witness watching my
program to come forward
261
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and tell the police what
might have happened to her.
262
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She loved life.
263
00:17:35,976 --> 00:17:39,296
She loved doing things
with her boyfriend.
264
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She loved doing things
around the home.
265
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She was a really loving daughter.
266
00:17:50,578 --> 00:17:53,179
Her father was quite
convinced in the early days
267
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that she had been abducted and
that someone was holding her.
268
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Please let her go.
269
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Just let her go if you've got her.
270
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Let her go and let
her come back to me
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and her dad and her family.
272
00:18:09,542 --> 00:18:10,581
Please.
273
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If you have her, or if she is dead,
274
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please tell somebody where she is.
275
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- We want her back.
- We want her back.
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Forever.
277
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It was unimaginable horror
278
00:18:33,586 --> 00:18:35,467
that that family were experiencing.
279
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I still see their faces.
280
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:46,108
Is there
anything else that you feel
281
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that we've left out that you'd
like to say at this stage?
282
00:18:48,229 --> 00:18:49,990
- No, I don't think so.
- No.
283
00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:52,270
Thank you very much indeed.
284
00:18:52,750 --> 00:18:53,830
Thank you.
285
00:19:19,675 --> 00:19:22,756
There were a number of
mysteries surrounding the case.
286
00:19:22,836 --> 00:19:24,916
One of the most high-profile ones was
287
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the story of the pizza box.
288
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Okay.
289
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I have here a pizza,
290
00:19:31,557 --> 00:19:35,557
which is similar in all respects
to the one we believe she purchased.
291
00:19:35,558 --> 00:19:41,239
Which is a Tesco's Finest tomato,
mozzarella, and basil pesto pizza.
292
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,560
As part of the investigation,
we had footage of Jo.
293
00:19:51,441 --> 00:19:54,242
One of the pieces of
footage we had of her was
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00:19:54,322 --> 00:19:56,521
that on her way home
from the pub in Bristol,
295
00:19:56,522 --> 00:19:57,522
she'd bought a pizza.
296
00:20:01,043 --> 00:20:03,923
The receipt for that
pizza was in her flat,
297
00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,484
but the box, the pizza
itself, and the packaging
298
00:20:07,564 --> 00:20:08,884
was nowhere to be seen.
299
00:20:11,405 --> 00:20:13,365
When you've got
very little to go on,
300
00:20:13,445 --> 00:20:15,726
you look at every
possible line of inquiry.
301
00:20:15,806 --> 00:20:17,446
So, if someone saw a pizza box
302
00:20:17,526 --> 00:20:20,086
sticking out of a bin
outside a flat somewhere,
303
00:20:20,727 --> 00:20:23,047
is that the house where Jo ended up?
304
00:20:26,488 --> 00:20:27,888
That would be worth following up.
305
00:20:31,929 --> 00:20:34,089
I can't remember any police force
306
00:20:34,169 --> 00:20:37,570
ever asking about a missing pizza.
307
00:20:41,210 --> 00:20:44,771
The pizza became the
subject of more media interest
308
00:20:44,851 --> 00:20:46,811
than we actually had anticipated.
309
00:20:49,412 --> 00:20:51,732
Britain is full of
armchair detectives,
310
00:20:51,812 --> 00:20:54,773
and if you throw in a
bizarre clue like a pizza,
311
00:20:54,853 --> 00:20:56,573
it adds interest.
312
00:20:57,053 --> 00:20:58,733
If you could
just hold that up again,
313
00:20:58,734 --> 00:20:59,934
I'll just get a close-up.
314
00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,293
I'm trying to
hold it as steady as I can.
315
00:21:02,294 --> 00:21:03,695
That's all right.
316
00:21:04,895 --> 00:21:07,135
The press became
absolutely obsessed with it.
317
00:21:09,096 --> 00:21:10,215
Did she eat it?
318
00:21:10,216 --> 00:21:12,216
And if not,
well, what happened to it?
319
00:21:25,579 --> 00:21:29,699
It's now a story that is
getting national importance.
320
00:21:38,981 --> 00:21:40,902
Christmas is a time
321
00:21:40,982 --> 00:21:43,102
where people gravitate
towards their loved ones.
322
00:21:49,263 --> 00:21:51,704
Here is a family that
had their Christmas plans
323
00:21:52,304 --> 00:21:53,944
and then suddenly
their beloved daughter
324
00:21:54,024 --> 00:21:56,024
was nowhere to be seen.
325
00:22:02,146 --> 00:22:03,506
There was this great contrast
326
00:22:03,586 --> 00:22:06,746
between everybody around that area
327
00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,467
walking around with
smiles on their faces,
328
00:22:08,507 --> 00:22:09,563
looking forward to Christmas,
329
00:22:09,587 --> 00:22:11,747
people coming back
in the fading light
330
00:22:11,827 --> 00:22:12,868
at the end of the day,
331
00:22:12,948 --> 00:22:15,508
laden down with bags full
of Christmas shopping,
332
00:22:15,588 --> 00:22:17,148
looking forward to parties,
333
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:21,269
and amidst all the happiness,
334
00:22:21,349 --> 00:22:23,270
there was this looming tragedy.
335
00:22:45,074 --> 00:22:46,514
Christmas Day, 2010.
336
00:22:46,594 --> 00:22:50,075
I'm sat at home with my
family and my young son.
337
00:22:50,155 --> 00:22:52,835
We had just opened his
first Christmas present
338
00:22:52,915 --> 00:22:55,276
and my mobile went.
339
00:23:00,436 --> 00:23:02,237
It was the control room inspector
340
00:23:02,317 --> 00:23:06,638
asking me to put my shoes on
and drive to Longwood Lane
341
00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:08,718
because a body has been found,
342
00:23:12,199 --> 00:23:14,799
and the initial feeling
is that it's Jo Yeates.
343
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,001
I drove up to Longwood Lane
344
00:23:24,201 --> 00:23:26,481
and certainly didn't
want to be driving there.
345
00:23:29,762 --> 00:23:31,322
I felt incredibly sad.
346
00:23:32,523 --> 00:23:34,083
I felt incredibly sad.
347
00:23:38,844 --> 00:23:41,324
The people walking
the dogs saw a mound.
348
00:23:41,404 --> 00:23:43,965
It snowed heavily in
the preceding days,
349
00:23:44,245 --> 00:23:45,805
but the husband spotted
350
00:23:45,885 --> 00:23:49,046
what he thinks was a pair of
jeans sticking out of the snow,
351
00:23:50,126 --> 00:23:52,486
and he then discovered that
it was, in fact, a body.
352
00:23:54,847 --> 00:23:57,967
Jo was in a very shallow
ditch up against the wall,
353
00:23:59,688 --> 00:24:01,048
partially covered in leaves,
354
00:24:01,888 --> 00:24:04,849
as if someone had maybe
made a very rough attempt
355
00:24:04,929 --> 00:24:06,729
to disguise the body in some way.
356
00:24:08,609 --> 00:24:10,450
She was preserved by the cold.
357
00:24:12,010 --> 00:24:13,170
We knew it was Jo.
358
00:24:15,571 --> 00:24:17,611
She wasn't wearing any footwear.
359
00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,532
She only had a T-shirt and jeans on.
360
00:24:22,092 --> 00:24:24,772
She wasn't dressed for the weather,
361
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:28,013
and the indications were that
362
00:24:28,093 --> 00:24:29,813
the killer had probably
taken her there
363
00:24:29,893 --> 00:24:31,694
and dumped her using a vehicle.
364
00:24:33,614 --> 00:24:36,214
The wall was examined and
there was evidence that
365
00:24:36,294 --> 00:24:38,695
Jo had come into contact
with that wall quite high up.
366
00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:41,335
The working theory was that
367
00:24:41,415 --> 00:24:43,816
the killer had tried to
put her over that wall.
368
00:24:46,136 --> 00:24:47,937
On the other side of
that wall is a quarry.
369
00:24:50,097 --> 00:24:53,018
Had that been the case, her
body may never have been found
370
00:24:53,098 --> 00:24:56,858
or certainly wouldn't have
been found very quickly.
371
00:25:01,739 --> 00:25:03,260
Of all the days
372
00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:07,180
to have to tell a family that
their loved one is deceased,
373
00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:09,701
you know, not Christmas day, please.
374
00:25:12,541 --> 00:25:14,742
What could possibly
be worse as a parent?
375
00:25:30,345 --> 00:25:32,185
On a bleak December afternoon,
376
00:25:32,265 --> 00:25:35,866
it was an awful journey for
the family of Joanna Yeates.
377
00:25:35,946 --> 00:25:38,826
In front of cameras invited
to record the moment,
378
00:25:38,906 --> 00:25:41,267
they went to the place
where her body was found,
379
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:55,189
I've never experienced
media interest like it.
380
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:57,190
It was on every channel.
381
00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:58,309
The family of Joanna Yeates.
382
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:59,390
Of Joanna Yeates.
383
00:25:59,510 --> 00:26:00,510
Joanna Yeates.
384
00:26:02,591 --> 00:26:05,031
This was the biggest story
in the country at the time.
385
00:26:19,514 --> 00:26:21,114
My phone was just red hot.
386
00:26:23,074 --> 00:26:26,355
There was this insatiable
demand for information.
387
00:26:28,315 --> 00:26:31,316
The biggest question was,
"Is this a murder inquiry?"
388
00:26:33,436 --> 00:26:35,357
And we just had to keep saying,
389
00:26:35,437 --> 00:26:37,956
"We've got to wait now for the
outcome of the post-mortem."
390
00:26:37,957 --> 00:26:39,118
"Well, when's that gonna be?"
391
00:26:40,958 --> 00:26:44,198
Jo's a scene, so she needed
to be dealt with forensically,
392
00:26:44,278 --> 00:26:46,759
but she was frozen,
so there's certain things
393
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,800
that needed to be done
in a systematic way
394
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,320
before we could take
swabs of her body
395
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,081
to see what people have
come into contact with her.
396
00:26:55,921 --> 00:26:57,641
The post-mortem took three days.
397
00:26:59,281 --> 00:27:02,682
When Jo's body was
discovered on Christmas Day,
398
00:27:02,762 --> 00:27:05,883
it obviously led the
TV news that day,
399
00:27:05,963 --> 00:27:08,923
but for printed
publications, actually,
400
00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:11,884
most of them don't come out
at all on Christmas Day,
401
00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:15,004
and a lot of them don't come out
on the 26th of December either,
402
00:27:15,484 --> 00:27:19,725
which meant that they were
48 hours behind the TV news.
403
00:27:19,805 --> 00:27:21,325
They had a lot of catching up to do,
404
00:27:21,405 --> 00:27:22,885
and they needed to do it quick.
405
00:27:24,366 --> 00:27:27,767
Newspapers really wanted
the information then.
406
00:27:27,847 --> 00:27:29,407
They wanted everything then,
407
00:27:29,847 --> 00:27:32,528
and the police were then
suddenly under pressure.
408
00:27:33,888 --> 00:27:36,928
We cannot say anything until
the pathologist comes forward
409
00:27:37,008 --> 00:27:38,105
and gives us a cause of death.
410
00:27:38,129 --> 00:27:40,529
There would've been even
more pressure on journalists
411
00:27:40,609 --> 00:27:43,810
to come up with the next
story, a follow-up story.
412
00:27:44,650 --> 00:27:47,730
What would it be? Who
would it be about?
413
00:27:47,810 --> 00:27:50,691
Were the police saying
anything more about the body?
414
00:27:50,771 --> 00:27:52,291
How did she die?
415
00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:54,772
The police are
keeping an open mind.
416
00:27:54,852 --> 00:27:57,572
How was she killed? By what method?
417
00:27:59,173 --> 00:28:02,613
It's up to the police to give
tidbits to the journalists
418
00:28:02,693 --> 00:28:05,414
so they can write their stories,
419
00:28:06,134 --> 00:28:07,854
because if they don't do that,
420
00:28:07,934 --> 00:28:10,215
then it leads to all
sorts of speculation.
421
00:28:11,215 --> 00:28:13,735
Between Christmas
and New Year, 2010,
422
00:28:13,815 --> 00:28:17,216
Bristol became wild,
wild west country
423
00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:20,096
in terms of media speculation.
424
00:28:43,661 --> 00:28:45,701
On the morning of
the 28th of December,
425
00:28:45,781 --> 00:28:49,222
I had a phone call from
the family liaison officer
426
00:28:49,302 --> 00:28:52,783
saying Jo's family
were extremely upset
427
00:28:52,863 --> 00:28:56,423
by what's been printed in
the national newspapers.
428
00:28:57,984 --> 00:29:01,144
I got hold of the
papers and I felt sick.
429
00:29:07,265 --> 00:29:10,266
The papers had written
that they believe
430
00:29:10,346 --> 00:29:13,747
that Jo Yeates had been
held captive for eight days,
431
00:29:14,427 --> 00:29:16,987
had been dumped unconscious
in Longwood Lane,
432
00:29:17,067 --> 00:29:18,507
and had died of hypothermia.
433
00:29:21,868 --> 00:29:23,588
I mean, I can only imagine
434
00:29:23,668 --> 00:29:25,469
the distress caused to the family.
435
00:29:28,709 --> 00:29:31,030
So I phoned one of the journalists
436
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:36,191
and said, "What on
earth have you written?"
437
00:29:36,271 --> 00:29:39,911
And his words have stayed
with me ever since.
438
00:29:42,272 --> 00:29:44,512
He said, "It was just something
439
00:29:44,592 --> 00:29:47,393
that was being bandied about,
so we thought we'd use it.
440
00:29:47,473 --> 00:29:48,753
You weren't giving us anything."
441
00:29:52,434 --> 00:29:53,434
I was speechless.
442
00:29:53,514 --> 00:29:55,794
I'm almost speechless recalling it.
443
00:29:56,435 --> 00:29:58,395
So I said, "We are about
444
00:29:58,475 --> 00:30:00,075
to issue the post-mortem results now,
445
00:30:00,155 --> 00:30:02,396
and you are gonna have an
awful lot of egg on your face."
446
00:30:02,596 --> 00:30:04,156
The post-mortem showed that
447
00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:06,436
she certainly didn't
die from hypothermia.
448
00:30:06,516 --> 00:30:09,757
It was from compression of
the neck or strangulation.
449
00:30:12,398 --> 00:30:15,798
We'd now jumped a huge jump
450
00:30:15,878 --> 00:30:18,999
from a missing person
to a murder inquiry.
451
00:30:29,801 --> 00:30:33,281
On the ground in Bristol at
the time, it was pretty crazy.
452
00:30:34,122 --> 00:30:38,162
TV trucks parked outside
Joanna's flat in Canynge Road.
453
00:30:38,922 --> 00:30:40,403
You had two or three reporters
454
00:30:40,483 --> 00:30:42,843
for every national
newspaper in the city.
455
00:30:42,923 --> 00:30:44,123
There was a real frenzy
456
00:30:44,203 --> 00:30:47,644
in terms of trying to contact
anyone who knew Joanna.
457
00:30:49,324 --> 00:30:52,365
There were photographers
and reporters hanging around,
458
00:30:52,445 --> 00:30:54,021
sitting in their cars, keeping warm,
459
00:30:54,045 --> 00:30:56,086
waiting to talk to neighbors
460
00:30:56,206 --> 00:30:58,486
or to relatives if they turned up.
461
00:30:59,806 --> 00:31:02,807
Above all, we hoped
that Greg Reardon,
462
00:31:02,887 --> 00:31:04,967
Joanna's boyfriend, would turn up,
463
00:31:05,047 --> 00:31:09,048
but anybody living
within that mansion house
464
00:31:09,128 --> 00:31:12,609
that was divided up into
various flats, any neighbors,
465
00:31:12,689 --> 00:31:14,889
we just wanted to find
out more about Joanna,
466
00:31:14,969 --> 00:31:16,450
talk to people who knew her.
467
00:31:21,971 --> 00:31:23,611
Joanna's home was in Clifton.
468
00:31:26,531 --> 00:31:29,612
Most people look to Clifton as
469
00:31:29,692 --> 00:31:32,052
one of the most affluent
areas in Bristol.
470
00:31:33,013 --> 00:31:34,613
If this had happened in
471
00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:37,133
one of the council
estates in South Bristol,
472
00:31:37,213 --> 00:31:38,774
they're like the rougher areas,
473
00:31:38,854 --> 00:31:40,694
everyone would've known Joanna,
474
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:43,791
but you come to Clifton and
you start door knocking,
475
00:31:43,815 --> 00:31:46,295
a lot of people don't even
know who lives next door.
476
00:31:48,856 --> 00:31:51,536
Chris Jefferies,
he was the landlord.
477
00:31:51,616 --> 00:31:53,977
He would've known Joanna Yeates.
478
00:31:54,057 --> 00:31:55,097
He'd been taking her rent,
479
00:31:55,177 --> 00:31:57,537
so that would be a good
starting point, really.
480
00:32:00,778 --> 00:32:02,738
We became aware that
Christopher Jefferies
481
00:32:02,818 --> 00:32:05,979
had spoken to the
police a second time.
482
00:32:09,740 --> 00:32:13,340
He became an important figure
for us to try and talk to.
483
00:32:15,861 --> 00:32:19,141
My second statement,
it was something that,
484
00:32:19,221 --> 00:32:21,942
when I was interviewed by the police
485
00:32:22,022 --> 00:32:24,702
following Jo's disappearance,
486
00:32:24,782 --> 00:32:29,783
I'd entirely forgotten about
and subsequently remembered.
487
00:32:31,104 --> 00:32:33,304
The night that Jo disappeared,
488
00:32:33,384 --> 00:32:37,785
as I was walking up the driveway
to go into the building,
489
00:32:37,865 --> 00:32:40,745
I was vaguely aware of somebody
490
00:32:40,825 --> 00:32:43,986
or some people leaving the premises
491
00:32:44,066 --> 00:32:47,587
by the path at the
side of the building,
492
00:32:47,667 --> 00:32:52,027
which led to the front
door of Jo's flat.
493
00:32:52,107 --> 00:32:55,588
We wanted to ask him, you
know, what he'd told the police,
494
00:32:56,988 --> 00:33:01,549
I was leaving the building
to go and do some shopping.
495
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:06,430
That was how everything began.
496
00:33:07,150 --> 00:33:10,311
You had made
some comment, which was then-
497
00:33:10,391 --> 00:33:12,911
He came out and he opened
the gate and he walked out
498
00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:15,792
and my colleague asked him
what he'd told the police.
499
00:33:15,872 --> 00:33:17,072
That I saw that.
500
00:33:18,072 --> 00:33:20,313
I made some comment,
501
00:33:20,393 --> 00:33:24,514
which was very, very, very
much vaguer than that.
502
00:33:25,274 --> 00:33:29,114
He seemed rather irritated,
but he was prepared to speak
503
00:33:29,194 --> 00:33:31,634
and we hadn't heard
him talk at that point.
504
00:33:31,635 --> 00:33:32,794
Are you able to give us
505
00:33:32,795 --> 00:33:34,291
any detail of what
it was you told them?
506
00:33:34,315 --> 00:33:35,476
I'm afraid not, no.
507
00:33:35,556 --> 00:33:38,396
Anything that I have said,
I have said to the police,
508
00:33:38,476 --> 00:33:40,637
and I'm not prepared to make
any comments to the media.
509
00:33:40,717 --> 00:33:41,877
So you didn't see-
510
00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:44,037
I was absolutely not prepared
511
00:33:44,117 --> 00:33:47,438
to give anybody any statement.
512
00:33:47,518 --> 00:33:50,038
And I thought he's just gonna
walk off 'cause he's annoyed
513
00:33:50,118 --> 00:33:53,359
but then, as my colleague
asked him again a question,
514
00:33:53,439 --> 00:33:55,575
"Did you definitely see her?"
515
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:56,600
He kind of turned back
516
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,200
and walked back a couple
of paces to the camera.
517
00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:04,801
He did have a slightly
strange look on his face.
518
00:34:04,881 --> 00:34:07,362
He wasn't smiling, but there
was a kind of sense that
519
00:34:07,442 --> 00:34:11,162
he didn't mind too much the
attention of the camera.
520
00:34:11,242 --> 00:34:13,363
You didn't see her that evening?
521
00:34:13,443 --> 00:34:15,443
I certainly cannot say that
522
00:34:16,323 --> 00:34:19,484
I saw Joanna Yeates that evening, no.
523
00:34:19,564 --> 00:34:21,284
Thank you very much.
524
00:34:21,364 --> 00:34:23,845
He turns again and
goes towards his car,
525
00:34:23,925 --> 00:34:25,725
at which point a
couple of photographers
526
00:34:25,805 --> 00:34:29,406
just come up to him, and as
he's trying to get into the car,
527
00:34:29,486 --> 00:34:31,366
snapping pictures of him.
528
00:34:39,288 --> 00:34:42,647
The journalists have found out
that this statement has changed,
529
00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:46,849
and you do have to ask,
how did they know that?
530
00:34:47,929 --> 00:34:50,770
As a journalist, you
always protect your sources.
531
00:34:50,850 --> 00:34:54,851
It must have been, at least
to a degree, police-related.
532
00:34:55,611 --> 00:34:57,531
Obviously, I can't prove it.
533
00:34:57,611 --> 00:34:59,291
That was something that
534
00:34:59,371 --> 00:35:02,172
Avon and Somerset Police
vehemently denied.
535
00:35:04,852 --> 00:35:07,053
I don't know this, but I think
536
00:35:07,133 --> 00:35:10,813
that if this information was
leaked, it was done so that
537
00:35:10,894 --> 00:35:14,534
we focus more on him than
we would've done otherwise
538
00:35:15,374 --> 00:35:18,014
because the police were
becoming suspicious about him.
539
00:35:29,777 --> 00:35:32,938
I was just on the
point of getting up
540
00:35:33,018 --> 00:35:35,177
when I became aware that
541
00:35:35,178 --> 00:35:39,499
somebody was knocking
on the door of my flat.
542
00:35:41,259 --> 00:35:45,100
I went to the door, asked who it was.
543
00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:48,461
"It's the police, Mr. Jefferies."
544
00:35:48,541 --> 00:35:49,941
Much to my astonishment,
545
00:35:50,021 --> 00:35:53,742
I was arrested on
suspicion of Jo's murder.
546
00:36:02,223 --> 00:36:04,944
When an arrest is made,
there are certain things
547
00:36:05,024 --> 00:36:07,624
that we as a police
force are able to say,
548
00:36:07,704 --> 00:36:09,921
and there are certain things
that we are not able to say,
549
00:36:09,945 --> 00:36:13,425
and one of the things that
we never say upon arrest only
550
00:36:13,505 --> 00:36:16,122
is you do not name an
individual who's been arrested.
551
00:36:16,146 --> 00:36:18,386
You name an individual
once they've been charged,
552
00:36:18,466 --> 00:36:19,922
because we're in a country where
553
00:36:19,946 --> 00:36:22,306
we assume that you're
innocent until proven guilty.
554
00:36:24,387 --> 00:36:25,524
We issued a statement
555
00:36:25,548 --> 00:36:28,548
saying that a 65-year-old
man had been arrested.
556
00:36:30,829 --> 00:36:33,229
We knew Christopher
Jefferies was 65.
557
00:36:33,309 --> 00:36:36,310
You didn't have to be Sherlock
Holmes to work out that
558
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:38,950
the man arrested was
Christopher Jefferies.
559
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:43,871
What the media started doing
is phone police station's up,
560
00:36:44,671 --> 00:36:46,207
and would say, "Just checking.
561
00:36:46,231 --> 00:36:48,391
You know, is it in your custody suite
562
00:36:48,392 --> 00:36:49,928
that you've got Chris
Jefferies at the moment,
563
00:36:49,952 --> 00:36:53,033
or is it New Bridewell station
or is it Trinity Road?"
564
00:36:54,393 --> 00:36:56,192
A member of staff
565
00:36:56,193 --> 00:36:57,650
in the front office of
one of the police stations
566
00:36:57,674 --> 00:36:59,090
got kind of tricked
into admitting that
567
00:36:59,114 --> 00:37:01,914
Chris Jefferies was in
custody at that station
568
00:37:01,994 --> 00:37:04,395
at that given time and
was devastated by it.
569
00:37:10,836 --> 00:37:13,917
When he was arrested,
the most important thing
570
00:37:13,997 --> 00:37:16,877
was to assist Christopher
at the police station.
571
00:37:20,478 --> 00:37:24,479
When you're advising a
suspect at a police station,
572
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:25,959
you obviously have the choice of
573
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:29,680
whether your client answers
questions or doesn't.
574
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,560
If a client has already
given an account,
575
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,041
unless there is something in addition
576
00:37:38,281 --> 00:37:42,082
that he needs to speak about,
there is no reason why
577
00:37:43,002 --> 00:37:44,842
the client should be
answering questions,
578
00:37:45,202 --> 00:37:48,683
and Christopher had given
two full accounts in two statements,
579
00:37:50,884 --> 00:37:54,204
but Christopher was very
keen to assist the police
580
00:37:54,284 --> 00:37:56,645
with any further
questions that they had
581
00:37:56,725 --> 00:37:58,405
because that's how Christopher is.
582
00:38:02,086 --> 00:38:03,646
He said he was at home.
583
00:38:03,726 --> 00:38:06,326
He lived alone, so he
couldn't get that validated.
584
00:38:07,207 --> 00:38:10,047
He didn't have a TV, so you
can't even get any timings
585
00:38:10,127 --> 00:38:12,608
of what he may have been doing,
watching a certain program.
586
00:38:13,328 --> 00:38:15,488
There was no sign of a forced entry
587
00:38:16,248 --> 00:38:19,249
and he had a set of keys to the flat.
588
00:38:21,649 --> 00:38:24,569
- When Christopher was [arrested, ]
- he was very naive.
589
00:38:24,570 --> 00:38:28,931
He expected to attend the police
station, give his account,
590
00:38:29,011 --> 00:38:31,211
and almost immediately be released,
591
00:38:31,291 --> 00:38:33,691
and of course that wasn't the case.
592
00:38:38,652 --> 00:38:41,133
Following Chris Jefferies' arrest,
593
00:38:41,213 --> 00:38:45,894
there's a whole new forensic
procedure that is adopted
594
00:38:45,974 --> 00:38:49,134
and his flat is subject
to intense scrutiny.
595
00:38:51,895 --> 00:38:54,391
There were some trainers found
belonging to Jefferies in the flat
596
00:38:54,415 --> 00:38:56,016
that looked like they
had blood on them.
597
00:38:58,136 --> 00:38:59,856
Everybody assumed that this was it.
598
00:38:59,936 --> 00:39:01,537
This was the missing
piece of the jigsaw.
599
00:39:01,617 --> 00:39:03,097
This was gonna be Jo's blood.
600
00:39:15,499 --> 00:39:19,180
During the police interviews,
601
00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:22,741
they did mention this phone call.
602
00:39:26,181 --> 00:39:27,622
It was made by Vincent Tabak
603
00:39:27,702 --> 00:39:29,782
when he'd gone back to the
Netherlands at Christmas.
604
00:39:32,022 --> 00:39:35,383
Vincent Tabak was a tenant
who had been living in
605
00:39:35,463 --> 00:39:38,824
the other garden flat
next door to Jo's.
606
00:39:43,145 --> 00:39:44,184
He suggested that
607
00:39:44,185 --> 00:39:46,825
Christopher Jefferies' car
was facing a different way
608
00:39:46,905 --> 00:39:49,266
the morning after Jo had disappeared.
609
00:39:49,346 --> 00:39:51,986
And that was at odds with
Chris Jefferies' account.
610
00:39:53,787 --> 00:39:55,667
I pointed out to them
611
00:39:55,747 --> 00:39:59,388
that there was a
very good explanation
612
00:39:59,468 --> 00:40:04,149
for the fact that my car had moved
613
00:40:04,229 --> 00:40:07,509
because it was rather snowy.
614
00:40:08,269 --> 00:40:13,630
I was going to an event
that particular evening.
615
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:18,391
I wanted to reverse up the driveway,
616
00:40:18,471 --> 00:40:23,472
and because it was snowy and icy,
the wheels were spinning.
617
00:40:23,592 --> 00:40:28,993
So I knocked on the door
of Vincent Tabak's flat
618
00:40:29,473 --> 00:40:34,314
to say, would he mind
giving the car a push
619
00:40:34,394 --> 00:40:37,035
so that I could get up the slope?
620
00:40:38,395 --> 00:40:41,115
Of course, he said,
"What are neighbors for?"
621
00:40:43,076 --> 00:40:46,196
There would've been a lot of
emphasis put on that phone call.
622
00:40:48,357 --> 00:40:49,637
They took it seriously.
623
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,840
While I was in custody,
slightly naively,
624
00:41:09,841 --> 00:41:12,281
it didn't actually occur to me that
625
00:41:12,361 --> 00:41:14,602
anybody might be remotely interested
626
00:41:14,682 --> 00:41:18,562
in the fact that I was in custody
627
00:41:19,883 --> 00:41:23,043
That morning, I had a
number of telephone calls.
628
00:41:23,123 --> 00:41:25,884
People were calling me to
go and buy the newspapers.
629
00:41:27,764 --> 00:41:29,164
I went to the shop,
630
00:41:29,244 --> 00:41:33,245
purchased a pile of newspapers,
and flicked through them.
631
00:41:35,046 --> 00:41:36,126
Wow.
632
00:41:41,007 --> 00:41:43,167
So, on the 31st of December,
633
00:41:43,247 --> 00:41:47,728
the press absolutely
annihilated Chris Jefferies.
634
00:41:50,128 --> 00:41:54,009
I can't remember a
suspect in a big case
635
00:41:54,089 --> 00:41:58,650
being quite subjected to
that almost vilification.
636
00:42:00,850 --> 00:42:02,610
It was just appalling.
637
00:42:02,611 --> 00:42:05,571
I've never had a client
who has had such coverage.
638
00:42:07,452 --> 00:42:08,812
It was a feeding frenzy.
639
00:42:10,892 --> 00:42:14,173
Chris Jefferies was tried
and convicted by the media
640
00:42:14,253 --> 00:42:16,813
long before we'd ever sat down
and finished questioning him.
641
00:42:27,175 --> 00:42:30,136
The newspapers just
tore his life apart,
642
00:42:31,096 --> 00:42:34,737
turning up pupils who'd known him
when he was a teacher years before,
643
00:42:34,817 --> 00:42:37,137
and they were saying
dreadful things about him.
644
00:42:39,618 --> 00:42:41,858
I think what people
vividly remember is
645
00:42:41,938 --> 00:42:43,578
the image of him with blue hair.
646
00:42:45,899 --> 00:42:49,259
My hair never looked like that.
647
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:52,020
I used,
648
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:54,580
at the time, a shampoo
649
00:42:54,661 --> 00:43:00,502
to give the hair a
very slight blue tint,
650
00:43:01,782 --> 00:43:04,062
but it certainly was not anything
651
00:43:04,142 --> 00:43:07,663
remotely resembling the photograph.
652
00:43:11,184 --> 00:43:14,904
But that, of course,
wasn't the only thing,
653
00:43:17,025 --> 00:43:18,945
The worst thing I remember
654
00:43:19,025 --> 00:43:22,906
were quotes from anonymous females
655
00:43:22,986 --> 00:43:26,787
who were his pupils
many years before,
656
00:43:26,867 --> 00:43:31,187
saying how uncomfortable
they felt around him,
657
00:43:31,267 --> 00:43:33,468
how creeped out they felt,
658
00:43:35,588 --> 00:43:36,828
and there was also somebody
659
00:43:36,908 --> 00:43:40,149
who'd been a tenant
in one of the flats
660
00:43:40,229 --> 00:43:43,950
who accused him of
being a peeping tom.
661
00:43:45,790 --> 00:43:48,591
The implication was
that she was a female,
662
00:43:48,671 --> 00:43:53,392
and, you know, he had some
unhealthy sexual interest in her,
663
00:43:53,472 --> 00:43:57,192
and, again, in the context
of him being identified as
664
00:43:57,272 --> 00:43:59,472
the suspect for Joanna's murder,
665
00:43:59,473 --> 00:44:01,073
it couldn't really be more damning.
666
00:44:02,953 --> 00:44:03,954
The police were saying
667
00:44:03,955 --> 00:44:06,714
there was no evidence that
she'd been sexually assaulted,
668
00:44:07,394 --> 00:44:09,875
but a pretty young woman murdered,
669
00:44:09,955 --> 00:44:12,595
there's a kind of unspoken
sexual element to it
670
00:44:12,675 --> 00:44:14,131
in most people's minds.
671
00:44:14,155 --> 00:44:19,876
That all added to this idea
that he was a sexual deviant.
672
00:44:20,317 --> 00:44:21,837
That's why he's been arrested.
673
00:44:26,958 --> 00:44:29,198
The police were scratching
around for a motive,
674
00:44:29,958 --> 00:44:33,199
so my concern was that,
what effect does this have
675
00:44:33,279 --> 00:44:35,679
on the police and the investigation?
676
00:44:41,841 --> 00:44:43,361
Bizarre links were being made
677
00:44:43,441 --> 00:44:46,361
between him and a
convicted paedophile.
678
00:44:47,642 --> 00:44:52,283
There was no shred
of truth whatsoever
679
00:44:52,363 --> 00:44:55,323
in the allegations
that were being made.
680
00:44:56,923 --> 00:44:58,284
The only link that they had
681
00:44:58,364 --> 00:45:00,604
was that they had both
owned the same flats,
682
00:45:00,684 --> 00:45:02,100
but it was years in between.
683
00:45:02,124 --> 00:45:04,725
It had changed hands two
or three times since.
684
00:45:04,805 --> 00:45:06,925
There was no link to be made there.
685
00:45:08,806 --> 00:45:12,006
They used quotes such as,
"He was really creepy.
686
00:45:12,086 --> 00:45:13,727
Everyone thought he was gay."
687
00:45:13,807 --> 00:45:18,807
It implies that being gay
makes you a paedophile,
688
00:45:18,808 --> 00:45:21,328
and it does smack of
massive homophobia.
689
00:45:23,128 --> 00:45:25,569
The media were looking at
690
00:45:25,649 --> 00:45:29,690
potential links with other
unsolved murders of females,
691
00:45:29,770 --> 00:45:33,610
particularly those around the
same age as Joanna Yeates.
692
00:45:35,011 --> 00:45:38,651
Claudia Lawrence, who'd vanished
in York the year before.
693
00:45:38,731 --> 00:45:42,612
There was Melanie Hall from
the late '90s who'd vanished.
694
00:45:44,252 --> 00:45:45,613
Perhaps the most intriguing
695
00:45:45,693 --> 00:45:47,412
was the case of Glenis Carruthers,
696
00:45:47,413 --> 00:45:49,813
who had vanished a few hundred yards
697
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:52,654
from where Joanna
Yeates had disappeared.
698
00:45:59,255 --> 00:46:02,656
If you look at the layout
of the newspaper pages,
699
00:46:02,736 --> 00:46:04,536
Jo's completely absent.
700
00:46:04,616 --> 00:46:07,377
The pictures of Chris
Jefferies are huge
701
00:46:07,457 --> 00:46:09,137
and the pictures used of Jo
702
00:46:09,217 --> 00:46:13,218
are either thumbnail tiny,
or in some cases, not at all.
703
00:46:15,698 --> 00:46:18,139
This was no longer about Jo.
704
00:46:18,219 --> 00:46:20,259
This was about this man,
705
00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:23,140
and it was almost like
her death was incidental.
706
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:31,141
My phone again rang and
said the Attorney General
707
00:46:31,221 --> 00:46:35,062
is commenting on
Christopher's case on Radio 4.
708
00:46:37,462 --> 00:46:38,502
Dominic Grieve,
709
00:46:38,503 --> 00:46:40,263
who was the attorney
general at that point,
710
00:46:40,343 --> 00:46:44,904
he went on the World
at One on BBC Radio 4
711
00:46:44,984 --> 00:46:48,504
to slap the wrist of the
media, to tell them off,
712
00:46:48,584 --> 00:46:51,025
to basically say,
"You're going too far."
713
00:46:52,185 --> 00:46:54,345
The Attorney General is
714
00:46:54,425 --> 00:46:56,546
the sort of chief legal advisor
715
00:46:56,626 --> 00:46:58,666
to the crown and the government.
716
00:47:00,467 --> 00:47:03,667
It takes pretty bad press coverage
717
00:47:03,747 --> 00:47:05,764
for the attorney general to step in.
718
00:47:05,788 --> 00:47:09,508
It is highly unusual
and it just goes to show
719
00:47:09,588 --> 00:47:12,509
that they had not
only crossed a line.
720
00:47:12,589 --> 00:47:15,269
They had done some
sort of hurdle over it.
721
00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:18,470
Of course, it was welcomed,
722
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:20,790
but a lot of the damage had been done
723
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:24,631
by the time the attorney
general had made those comments.
724
00:47:24,711 --> 00:47:26,271
The coverage was extensive.
725
00:47:27,872 --> 00:47:30,872
The content of some of the articles
726
00:47:30,952 --> 00:47:35,073
was driving you towards thinking that
727
00:47:35,153 --> 00:47:37,674
Christopher Jefferies
might be guilty,
728
00:47:37,754 --> 00:47:41,674
and that is potentially
very problematic.
729
00:47:42,555 --> 00:47:45,595
If there's lots of
information in those articles
730
00:47:45,675 --> 00:47:48,836
that don't actually make
it into the courtroom,
731
00:47:48,916 --> 00:47:51,316
then you may potentially have jurors
732
00:47:51,396 --> 00:47:53,837
who remember things that they read
733
00:47:53,917 --> 00:47:57,837
and they may be reaching
conclusions not based
734
00:47:57,917 --> 00:48:00,278
from the evidence that they're
hearing in the courtroom.
735
00:48:01,478 --> 00:48:04,039
How on earth can he have a fair trial
736
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,839
when there's been all this
negative publicity about him?
737
00:48:20,562 --> 00:48:24,002
There were huge
pressures to come up with
738
00:48:24,082 --> 00:48:27,363
big agenda-setting scoops.
739
00:48:27,443 --> 00:48:29,763
Massive, massive pressure.
740
00:48:32,284 --> 00:48:35,203
In 2010, the British
press was just coming out of
741
00:48:35,204 --> 00:48:37,765
what has been described
as their worst year ever.
742
00:48:39,045 --> 00:48:41,366
Circulation was
dropping dramatically,
743
00:48:41,446 --> 00:48:43,766
and some publications,
such as The Mirror,
744
00:48:43,846 --> 00:48:47,167
had actually seen a 55%
decrease in circulation
745
00:48:47,247 --> 00:48:49,367
over that past decade.
746
00:48:49,887 --> 00:48:52,887
The advertising revenue was
taking a massive plummet,
747
00:48:52,888 --> 00:48:53,927
and at this point,
748
00:48:53,928 --> 00:48:55,928
paginations were having
to decrease because of it
749
00:48:56,008 --> 00:48:58,248
and it was looking pretty bleak.
750
00:48:59,609 --> 00:49:02,690
The staff were under
pressure to get the story
751
00:49:02,770 --> 00:49:05,850
because they know the
circulation is falling.
752
00:49:07,290 --> 00:49:08,331
Bad news sells.
753
00:49:08,411 --> 00:49:09,851
Murder is one of the strongest,
754
00:49:09,931 --> 00:49:11,851
highest news values that there is.
755
00:49:13,532 --> 00:49:17,892
The proprietor would ring
the editor on a Saturday night.
756
00:49:17,972 --> 00:49:20,573
Wherever Rupert Murdoch
was in the world,
757
00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:23,693
he would call in,
speak to the editor,
758
00:49:23,774 --> 00:49:24,814
and if he wasn't happy,
759
00:49:24,894 --> 00:49:26,934
there would just be
silence on the phone.
760
00:49:30,335 --> 00:49:32,895
There was huge pressure
to get the story.
761
00:49:32,975 --> 00:49:34,656
Don't worry how you get it.
762
00:49:49,818 --> 00:49:52,115
Following Vincent Tabak's
phone call from the Netherlands
763
00:49:52,139 --> 00:49:54,139
on the 30th of December,
764
00:49:54,219 --> 00:49:57,620
DC Thomas was sent
out to interview him.
765
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:02,421
She got a really bad
feeling about Tabak.
766
00:50:06,862 --> 00:50:08,782
Forensic strategy for a murder,
767
00:50:08,862 --> 00:50:12,423
you take samples and
elimination swabs
768
00:50:12,503 --> 00:50:14,903
from anybody that could
assist the inquiry.
769
00:50:17,023 --> 00:50:19,104
She requested that he provide
770
00:50:19,184 --> 00:50:22,104
a voluntary sample
of DNA, a mouth swab.
771
00:50:22,665 --> 00:50:25,385
He seemed a little bit
weary of that process.
772
00:50:27,906 --> 00:50:30,506
When DC Thomas returned
with the evidence
773
00:50:30,586 --> 00:50:33,147
that she got from Tabak,
I spoke to her
774
00:50:34,187 --> 00:50:38,428
and I knew that she had had
a bad feeling about Tabak,
775
00:50:38,828 --> 00:50:41,308
and when I read the
statement, I did as well.
776
00:50:42,868 --> 00:50:44,829
He made comments about his movement
777
00:50:44,909 --> 00:50:48,269
the night that Jo was last
seen that would have put him
778
00:50:48,349 --> 00:50:52,430
in proximity of the front
door of Joanna's flat.
779
00:50:55,391 --> 00:50:57,111
Something wasn't quite right,
780
00:50:59,511 --> 00:51:02,151
but when DC Thomas
presented the evidence
781
00:51:02,152 --> 00:51:03,472
to certain senior officers,
782
00:51:04,192 --> 00:51:06,833
it's fair to say that
they didn't embrace it.
783
00:51:08,593 --> 00:51:11,314
All attention was still
going on Jefferies.
784
00:51:18,155 --> 00:51:21,236
The press, the media, it was poison,
785
00:51:21,316 --> 00:51:25,196
and it was certainly a
distraction for the police,
786
00:51:25,276 --> 00:51:27,757
and I think no doubt influenced
787
00:51:27,837 --> 00:51:30,037
mindsets of detectives
on that inquiry.
788
00:51:33,998 --> 00:51:36,158
Confirmation bias means that
789
00:51:36,238 --> 00:51:40,119
you pin everything on one
individual being responsible
790
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:45,640
and you only seek information
to confirm your suspicions
791
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,521
and you'll ignore or edit
or miss out information
792
00:51:51,641 --> 00:51:54,482
that suggests they're
perhaps not guilty.
793
00:51:55,042 --> 00:51:56,298
I believe confirmation bias
794
00:51:56,322 --> 00:51:58,963
was prevalent in this investigation,
795
00:51:59,043 --> 00:52:01,803
and it's a very dangerous mindset
for an investigator to have.
796
00:52:04,204 --> 00:52:06,884
At 4:00 PM on the 31st,
797
00:52:06,964 --> 00:52:10,125
there was an extension granted
by the magistrate's court
798
00:52:10,205 --> 00:52:13,205
in order to further question
and detain Christopher.
799
00:52:14,486 --> 00:52:17,886
Hearing that they'd got an
extension to keep holding him
800
00:52:17,966 --> 00:52:21,127
did suggest that they had
some credible evidence.
801
00:52:21,207 --> 00:52:23,527
We'd felt that the
police had got their man.
802
00:52:24,167 --> 00:52:27,608
Four, three, two, one!
803
00:52:42,731 --> 00:52:45,771
The media were camped
outside Jo's flat,
804
00:52:45,851 --> 00:52:48,132
sat in vehicles in the cold,
805
00:52:48,212 --> 00:52:50,492
waiting for an opportunity
to take photos of
806
00:52:50,572 --> 00:52:54,373
detectives coming or
police doing searches.
807
00:52:54,453 --> 00:52:55,493
They were everywhere.
808
00:52:56,533 --> 00:52:58,014
Everyone wanted an angle.
809
00:52:58,094 --> 00:53:00,334
The Sun, The Mirror, The Express,
810
00:53:00,414 --> 00:53:02,014
The Mail, The News of the World.
811
00:53:03,775 --> 00:53:07,335
The pressure was on to get a
splash as good as the last,
812
00:53:07,415 --> 00:53:10,336
because you can't rest on
your laurels in newspapers.
813
00:53:10,416 --> 00:53:13,777
You need to keep
feeding your readership
814
00:53:16,017 --> 00:53:18,217
and the readership
needed to be entertained.
815
00:53:19,938 --> 00:53:21,978
No one's forcing you to
pick up a tabloid paper
816
00:53:22,058 --> 00:53:23,098
if you don't want to.
817
00:53:30,260 --> 00:53:32,740
As a local crime
correspondent, it's not fun.
818
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:36,261
You have scores of journalists
819
00:53:36,341 --> 00:53:38,141
competing over the same story.
820
00:53:42,222 --> 00:53:45,863
The tabloids were
offering money to people
821
00:53:45,943 --> 00:53:48,303
who lived inside the
cordon up in Clifton
822
00:53:48,383 --> 00:53:49,943
near where Jo lived,
823
00:53:50,023 --> 00:53:52,064
just so they could
sit in their lounges
824
00:53:52,144 --> 00:53:54,904
and watch and look for
any police activity.
825
00:53:56,825 --> 00:53:59,065
One of Jo's friends was
offered 20,000 pounds
826
00:53:59,145 --> 00:54:00,825
to speak to a tabloid paper.
827
00:54:02,746 --> 00:54:04,986
You have people
throwing money around,
828
00:54:05,066 --> 00:54:07,427
paying for interviews,
paying for information,
829
00:54:07,507 --> 00:54:08,507
which I didn't have.
830
00:54:09,427 --> 00:54:14,324
Then I have my editor saying,
"Why haven't you got this story?"
831
00:54:14,348 --> 00:54:16,228
And I'm thinking,
"Because it's rubbish."
832
00:54:18,109 --> 00:54:22,149
Many of the comments in the
papers were unsubstantiated.
833
00:54:22,229 --> 00:54:23,750
They were unnamed sources.
834
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:27,230
The Sun ran a story
835
00:54:27,310 --> 00:54:29,311
with a woman who didn't
want to be named,
836
00:54:29,391 --> 00:54:32,031
saying that Chris
Jefferies had stalked her.
837
00:54:33,032 --> 00:54:37,272
The story was that he had chatted
to her at a local library,
838
00:54:37,352 --> 00:54:39,433
and that whenever she
came into the library,
839
00:54:39,513 --> 00:54:40,969
he would smile at her.
840
00:54:40,993 --> 00:54:43,353
He said nice things
about her hair colour,
841
00:54:43,433 --> 00:54:45,874
that he had chatted to
her in the supermarket
842
00:54:45,954 --> 00:54:48,354
about the contents of
her supermarket trolley,
843
00:54:48,434 --> 00:54:50,435
and that when she eventually said
844
00:54:50,515 --> 00:54:52,355
that he was making her
feel uncomfortable,
845
00:54:52,435 --> 00:54:53,851
he'd said something like,
846
00:54:53,875 --> 00:54:56,315
"What do you take me for,
some kind of pervert?"
847
00:55:00,517 --> 00:55:05,318
I think using the word "stalking"
was perhaps unreasonable.
848
00:55:05,398 --> 00:55:08,398
I wonder why the woman
didn't want to be named.
849
00:55:10,078 --> 00:55:12,959
An unnamed source could be
850
00:55:13,039 --> 00:55:15,159
me talking to a senior police officer
851
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,120
and the police officer saying,
"We've got our man there.
852
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,240
We've got our man."
853
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,761
An unnamed source could be
854
00:55:21,841 --> 00:55:25,241
somebody who knows the
person who's been arrested
855
00:55:25,321 --> 00:55:26,682
and says, "I'll talk to you,
856
00:55:26,762 --> 00:55:28,498
but I'll talk to you off the record."
857
00:55:28,522 --> 00:55:30,842
In other words, you
can't name him or her.
858
00:55:32,683 --> 00:55:35,683
The journalist must
always know their identity.
859
00:55:35,763 --> 00:55:39,764
However, you as a journalist
never have to reveal your sources,
860
00:55:39,844 --> 00:55:42,565
so you will never ever
have to give that name,
861
00:55:42,645 --> 00:55:46,165
those details to anybody,
even in a courtroom.
862
00:55:47,125 --> 00:55:48,606
So,
863
00:55:49,806 --> 00:55:51,606
what stops you from making it up?
864
00:55:52,606 --> 00:55:53,647
Very little.
865
00:55:58,808 --> 00:56:01,288
The newspapers didn't really care
866
00:56:01,368 --> 00:56:03,649
whether what they were saying
about Christopher was true,
867
00:56:03,729 --> 00:56:06,409
because, ultimately,
I think they were gambling on
868
00:56:06,489 --> 00:56:09,210
him being charged and
convicted of murder.
869
00:56:11,770 --> 00:56:13,810
It was probably a calculated risk.
870
00:56:14,891 --> 00:56:16,490
They had a look at the
bottom line and thought,
871
00:56:16,491 --> 00:56:17,610
"Well, we might get sued,
872
00:56:17,611 --> 00:56:19,532
but look at how much
we're gonna be making."
873
00:56:21,492 --> 00:56:23,771
The editor of The Mirror,
Richard Wallace,
874
00:56:23,772 --> 00:56:25,813
said they'd been told by the police
875
00:56:25,893 --> 00:56:27,452
that Chris Jefferies was their man
876
00:56:27,453 --> 00:56:29,373
in an off-the-record briefing.
877
00:56:31,054 --> 00:56:32,854
Had Christopher Jefferies
878
00:56:32,934 --> 00:56:36,975
actually been convicted of
the murder of Joanna Yeates,
879
00:56:37,055 --> 00:56:38,575
from a libel perspective,
880
00:56:38,655 --> 00:56:42,016
it would be very hard to
start mounting a claim.
881
00:56:43,696 --> 00:56:45,896
There is no such thing
as defaming a murderer.
882
00:56:45,976 --> 00:56:48,537
You can't lower that
person's reputation
883
00:56:48,617 --> 00:56:51,417
because they don't have a
good reputation to start with.
884
00:56:52,858 --> 00:56:55,618
The newspapers were so convinced
885
00:56:55,698 --> 00:56:57,579
that he was about to be charged,
886
00:56:57,659 --> 00:57:00,899
it was almost like
it was open season.
887
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:09,101
Whilst Christopher
was in police custody,
888
00:57:09,181 --> 00:57:11,461
on occasions, he did
find it difficult.
889
00:57:14,062 --> 00:57:15,902
He was a person of good character,
890
00:57:15,982 --> 00:57:17,902
never been in trouble before.
891
00:57:17,982 --> 00:57:21,623
He would've been in a
completely new environment,
892
00:57:21,703 --> 00:57:26,104
somewhat intimidating, being
in a cell, being handcuffed.
893
00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:33,425
At the back of one's mind,
one starts to feel,
894
00:57:33,505 --> 00:57:37,866
well, possibly there is
something that I have done
895
00:57:37,946 --> 00:57:39,346
that I've forgotten about
896
00:57:39,426 --> 00:57:43,907
and they have discovered
some incriminating evidence.
897
00:57:47,068 --> 00:57:51,669
The police were clearly affected by
what was being written in the papers.
898
00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:58,710
There were newspaper articles
which portray Christopher
899
00:57:58,790 --> 00:58:00,230
as having a bad temper.
900
00:58:01,791 --> 00:58:03,191
Thereafter, in the interview,
901
00:58:03,271 --> 00:58:04,951
the police are asking Christopher
902
00:58:05,031 --> 00:58:07,112
as to whether he has
a bad temper or not.
903
00:58:09,112 --> 00:58:13,033
I was obviously very
forthcoming in giving them
904
00:58:13,113 --> 00:58:17,834
all sorts of details and
answers to their questions
905
00:58:17,914 --> 00:58:21,674
since I knew I had nothing to hide.
906
00:58:23,195 --> 00:58:24,234
Christopher said
907
00:58:24,235 --> 00:58:26,755
he did have a bad temper
on certain occasions.
908
00:58:27,716 --> 00:58:30,316
Christopher said he had a bad temper
909
00:58:30,396 --> 00:58:32,076
for effect when teaching.
910
00:58:34,517 --> 00:58:37,437
He could be quite
critical of bad grammar,
911
00:58:38,278 --> 00:58:40,054
and I'm certainly aware
that he pointed out
912
00:58:40,078 --> 00:58:42,918
a few inaccuracies in
the interview process,
913
00:58:43,799 --> 00:58:45,575
which can probably only make people
914
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,119
feel more prickly towards him.
915
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,920
They were obviously
getting very frustrated
916
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,041
that they weren't getting anywhere.
917
00:58:55,121 --> 00:59:00,522
They tried to put a bit
more pressure on me.
918
00:59:00,602 --> 00:59:03,002
The evidence against
him was extremely flimsy.
919
00:59:04,562 --> 00:59:06,259
The trainers found
belonging to Jefferies
920
00:59:06,283 --> 00:59:08,003
in the flat with blood on them,
921
00:59:11,204 --> 00:59:12,724
it turned out to be beef blood.
922
00:59:14,164 --> 00:59:15,725
- Good evening.
- Within the last hour,
923
00:59:15,805 --> 00:59:18,285
it's been confirmed that the
landlord of Joanna Yeates
924
00:59:18,365 --> 00:59:20,846
is no longer in police custody.
925
00:59:24,246 --> 00:59:26,887
Christopher was
released on police bail,
926
00:59:26,967 --> 00:59:28,647
which means he is still a suspect.
927
00:59:31,688 --> 00:59:37,009
After the three days I'd
spent in the police station,
928
00:59:37,329 --> 00:59:42,330
I certainly was very angry
because I remember that
929
00:59:42,370 --> 00:59:46,490
the first thing that I
said to the solicitor was,
930
00:59:46,570 --> 00:59:49,611
"Somebody has got to
be sued for this."
931
00:59:51,971 --> 00:59:53,692
We were very concerned for him.
932
00:59:55,812 --> 00:59:59,693
The press were portraying
him in a very, very bad way.
933
00:59:59,773 --> 01:00:02,373
Had somebody wanted to be
aggressive towards him,
934
01:00:02,413 --> 01:00:08,054
threaten him, his address was
public, his house distinctive.
935
01:00:08,134 --> 01:00:11,111
Of course, his photographs
were in all the papers.
936
01:00:11,135 --> 01:00:13,175
It's just extremely dangerous.
937
01:00:14,896 --> 01:00:16,976
Christopher couldn't go
back to his own house,
938
01:00:17,056 --> 01:00:20,137
so essentially he went
back to a friend's house.
939
01:00:21,737 --> 01:00:23,033
Christopher had no clothing
940
01:00:23,057 --> 01:00:25,458
because they took all the
clothing for forensics,
941
01:00:25,538 --> 01:00:27,298
so he felt that it
would be a good idea
942
01:00:27,378 --> 01:00:29,938
to go to the local shopping center.
943
01:00:32,099 --> 01:00:34,218
The last thing we wanted was
944
01:00:34,219 --> 01:00:37,180
for somebody to either
attack him, abuse him,
945
01:00:37,260 --> 01:00:40,260
and put him in a worse
position mentally or physically
946
01:00:40,340 --> 01:00:42,060
than what he was.
947
01:00:43,821 --> 01:00:46,702
We made sure that he lay low.
948
01:00:48,502 --> 01:00:50,038
One of the points that I raised was
949
01:00:50,062 --> 01:00:52,423
perhaps Christopher
changing his appearance.
950
01:00:53,983 --> 01:00:57,224
And it was arranged
951
01:00:57,304 --> 01:01:00,624
that I would go
952
01:01:00,704 --> 01:01:05,705
late one afternoon
to the hairdresser.
953
01:01:08,306 --> 01:01:12,266
Time for a change.
Time for a new look.
954
01:01:14,227 --> 01:01:16,267
Christopher's life was disrupted.
955
01:01:18,748 --> 01:01:22,148
He has to live with
what was said about him
956
01:01:22,228 --> 01:01:25,149
and the way he was
portrayed in the media
957
01:01:25,229 --> 01:01:26,829
for the rest of his life,
958
01:01:27,389 --> 01:01:31,430
and I'm sure, even now, if
he's walking down the street,
959
01:01:31,510 --> 01:01:32,766
someone will say,
960
01:01:32,790 --> 01:01:35,231
"There's the guy that was
nicked for Joanna Yeates."
961
01:01:50,594 --> 01:01:52,194
When Christopher
Jefferies is released,
962
01:01:52,274 --> 01:01:54,274
we are then back to square one.
963
01:01:54,794 --> 01:01:56,595
There's still a killer on the loose.
964
01:01:58,595 --> 01:02:00,675
There is understandably
always concern.
965
01:02:00,756 --> 01:02:03,675
In tandem with the
criminal investigation,
966
01:02:03,676 --> 01:02:04,852
the police were doing
967
01:02:04,876 --> 01:02:07,837
higher-profile patrols,
enhanced patrols,
968
01:02:07,917 --> 01:02:11,077
more officers on the streets,
trying to reassure people.
969
01:02:13,238 --> 01:02:14,854
A uniformed officer would turn up
970
01:02:14,878 --> 01:02:17,479
to kind of deliver that
reassuring message,
971
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:19,159
warning women that, you know,
972
01:02:19,239 --> 01:02:21,319
there's no great danger,
but just be careful,
973
01:02:21,439 --> 01:02:23,160
particularly walking home at night.
974
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,161
The difficulty was that
there didn't appear to be
975
01:02:28,241 --> 01:02:31,041
any other remotely obvious suspects.
976
01:02:32,321 --> 01:02:33,761
And the killer hadn't been found.
977
01:02:34,962 --> 01:02:37,842
That led to criticism
of the investigation.
978
01:02:39,643 --> 01:02:42,243
Scrutiny then came back
on the police on things
979
01:02:42,323 --> 01:02:44,563
that they could have, should
have done differently,
980
01:02:45,684 --> 01:02:47,964
and that the relationship
with the media
981
01:02:48,044 --> 01:02:49,845
became more fractious at that point,
982
01:02:51,725 --> 01:02:53,805
The interest was still huge.
983
01:02:55,246 --> 01:02:57,326
I was still down in Bristol.
984
01:02:57,406 --> 01:02:59,967
I was under pressure
to do daily reports
985
01:03:00,047 --> 01:03:03,047
to keep the whole Joanna
Yeates story going.
986
01:03:04,567 --> 01:03:06,808
The media are clamouring
for their next headline,
987
01:03:06,888 --> 01:03:08,128
their next update.
988
01:03:08,208 --> 01:03:09,768
They want more information,
989
01:03:10,689 --> 01:03:12,849
and if you can't provide it to them,
990
01:03:12,929 --> 01:03:14,489
then they will look elsewhere,
991
01:03:14,969 --> 01:03:17,490
and one of the things
you commonly see,
992
01:03:17,570 --> 01:03:20,610
you see it a lot on TV,
they will bring out experts.
993
01:03:21,531 --> 01:03:22,771
Messages are mixed
994
01:03:22,851 --> 01:03:25,011
and even the experts are confused.
995
01:03:26,852 --> 01:03:29,892
ITN took him up to the location
996
01:03:29,972 --> 01:03:34,093
where Jo's body had been
found to seek his expert view.
997
01:03:37,534 --> 01:03:41,774
This chat raised a number of,
in his professional opinion,
998
01:03:41,854 --> 01:03:45,335
failings there in
the Somerset Police.
999
01:03:45,415 --> 01:03:47,015
He found some litter at the scene.
1000
01:03:47,736 --> 01:03:49,112
I would've expected
to come along here
1001
01:03:49,136 --> 01:03:50,656
and seen absolutely nothing,
1002
01:03:50,736 --> 01:03:54,297
certainly nothing that
DNA could be taken from.
1003
01:03:56,217 --> 01:03:58,818
Who is this person,
first and foremost?
1004
01:03:58,898 --> 01:04:01,698
What gives him the credentials
1005
01:04:01,778 --> 01:04:06,459
and the expertise to to criticise us?
1006
01:04:07,819 --> 01:04:11,140
I was at the scene the
day Jo's body was found,
1007
01:04:11,220 --> 01:04:14,141
and I know that they didn't
leave a stone unturned
1008
01:04:14,221 --> 01:04:16,141
in terms of looking for evidence.
1009
01:04:17,461 --> 01:04:18,901
The upshot was that
1010
01:04:18,981 --> 01:04:20,702
Avon and Somerset
Police were so angry,
1011
01:04:20,782 --> 01:04:24,622
they banned ITN from
press conferences.
1012
01:04:26,983 --> 01:04:29,303
I think it was a
brave decision to make,
1013
01:04:29,383 --> 01:04:34,064
and I think sometimes you do
need to do things like that
1014
01:04:34,144 --> 01:04:36,385
because some elements of the media
1015
01:04:36,465 --> 01:04:39,585
do have this aura about them
where they feel untouchable
1016
01:04:40,505 --> 01:04:43,106
and they think that they
can push the boundaries
1017
01:04:43,186 --> 01:04:45,386
and get away with things.
1018
01:04:47,067 --> 01:04:48,307
I thought that was bizarre.
1019
01:04:48,387 --> 01:04:51,788
I thought that was
petulant of the police.
1020
01:04:51,868 --> 01:04:54,348
The police were cutting their
nose off to spite their face
1021
01:04:54,428 --> 01:04:56,949
because they were getting
rid of the possibility
1022
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:58,989
that an ITN viewer
1023
01:04:59,069 --> 01:05:01,629
might be the very witness
that they're looking for.
1024
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:06,950
The ban lasted no longer
than 48 hours in the end,
1025
01:05:07,030 --> 01:05:09,831
and one of the reasons
that it was lifted,
1026
01:05:09,911 --> 01:05:13,032
more than anything else,
is because of the backlash.
1027
01:05:14,552 --> 01:05:16,232
We've got the right to ask questions.
1028
01:05:16,312 --> 01:05:18,009
We've got a right for
this and a right for that
1029
01:05:18,033 --> 01:05:19,433
and freedom of the press.
1030
01:05:20,313 --> 01:05:21,553
That became the story,
1031
01:05:22,713 --> 01:05:27,714
and it was detracting from
what we needed the story to be,
1032
01:05:27,874 --> 01:05:30,395
which was the hunt
for Jo Yeates' killer.
1033
01:05:44,878 --> 01:05:48,198
The next day, The Sun
ran a front page story
1034
01:05:48,278 --> 01:05:52,759
saying that Joanna Yeates
was missing a ski sock
1035
01:05:52,839 --> 01:05:54,279
when her body was found.
1036
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,361
Perhaps that was the murder weapon.
1037
01:06:02,441 --> 01:06:04,241
Maybe that's why a sock was missing,
1038
01:06:04,321 --> 01:06:05,841
that he'd strangled her with it,
1039
01:06:06,362 --> 01:06:09,522
or it had been taken as
a trophy by the killer.
1040
01:06:10,682 --> 01:06:12,803
The trouble was, a
couple of days before,
1041
01:06:12,883 --> 01:06:14,443
the investigation team had said that
1042
01:06:14,523 --> 01:06:16,763
she'd been fully clothed
when she was found.
1043
01:06:17,604 --> 01:06:20,164
The media felt like they
were withholding information.
1044
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:24,125
One of Jo's socks was missing,
1045
01:06:24,205 --> 01:06:26,541
but there are certain things
you don't always tell the media
1046
01:06:26,565 --> 01:06:29,526
because if an independent
witness comes forward
1047
01:06:30,606 --> 01:06:33,447
and says something,
there might be a detail
1048
01:06:33,527 --> 01:06:35,567
that you haven't put
into the public domain,
1049
01:06:36,167 --> 01:06:37,887
that if they come to you with it,
1050
01:06:37,968 --> 01:06:40,408
you kind of think, "We've
got a credible lead here."
1051
01:06:43,168 --> 01:06:45,049
Once it became clear that
1052
01:06:45,129 --> 01:06:47,569
certainly at least one element
of the media knew about it,
1053
01:06:47,649 --> 01:06:50,010
we were gonna have to do
something about this now.
1054
01:06:50,690 --> 01:06:54,731
I'm here this morning to talk
to you about a missing sock.
1055
01:06:56,251 --> 01:06:58,931
We ended up buying a similar sock,
putting it into a case,
1056
01:06:59,011 --> 01:07:01,691
and holding it up at
the press conference.
1057
01:07:03,292 --> 01:07:07,533
The Sun often lead the rest of us
on those kind of stories.
1058
01:07:07,613 --> 01:07:10,174
Yeah, they clearly had a good source.
1059
01:07:10,254 --> 01:07:12,334
How did they find out?
1060
01:07:13,974 --> 01:07:16,455
We didn't know where
the media got that from.
1061
01:07:17,535 --> 01:07:21,576
I know it caused some concern
to the investigation team.
1062
01:07:22,696 --> 01:07:26,537
The murder investigation
team had a briefing room
1063
01:07:26,617 --> 01:07:28,697
that doubled up to brief the media.
1064
01:07:30,337 --> 01:07:31,457
There were some suggestions.
1065
01:07:31,458 --> 01:07:34,418
I wonder if the media
have bugged that room.
1066
01:07:34,498 --> 01:07:36,819
I wonder if they're getting
snippets of information
1067
01:07:36,899 --> 01:07:37,899
from bugging it,
1068
01:07:39,139 --> 01:07:41,419
but to my knowledge,
none were found.
1069
01:07:42,820 --> 01:07:45,340
I think, from that point
onwards, the relationship
1070
01:07:45,420 --> 01:07:48,141
between the media and the
police definitely changed.
1071
01:07:48,221 --> 01:07:50,461
The investigation team closed ranks.
1072
01:08:09,665 --> 01:08:11,505
By mid-January, the
relationship between
1073
01:08:11,585 --> 01:08:13,425
Avon and Somerset
Police and the media
1074
01:08:13,505 --> 01:08:15,146
was not in the best of places.
1075
01:08:15,226 --> 01:08:17,506
It became increasingly hard
1076
01:08:17,586 --> 01:08:20,027
to find any new angles to the story.
1077
01:08:22,387 --> 01:08:24,788
The Sun offered 50,000 pounds
1078
01:08:24,868 --> 01:08:27,308
for information that would lead to
1079
01:08:27,388 --> 01:08:30,709
the successful capture
of Jo's killer.
1080
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:33,869
It is a little bit unusual
for a newspaper organization
1081
01:08:33,949 --> 01:08:35,486
to put up that amount of money,
1082
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:38,550
especially if you think about
the financial dire straits
1083
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:40,990
that the newspaper industry
were in at the time.
1084
01:08:41,471 --> 01:08:45,111
It was a very clever way of
keeping the story in the press.
1085
01:08:46,912 --> 01:08:48,912
There wasn't much happening
1086
01:08:48,992 --> 01:08:51,873
in terms of the police investigation.
1087
01:08:51,953 --> 01:08:53,169
Whatever work was going on
1088
01:08:53,193 --> 01:08:55,913
behind the scenes with forensics
1089
01:08:55,993 --> 01:08:58,794
was kept really tight because
of the media interest.
1090
01:08:58,874 --> 01:09:00,754
We didn't want any more speculation,
1091
01:09:00,834 --> 01:09:01,931
So when we discovered
1092
01:09:01,955 --> 01:09:04,275
that they were going
to do a reconstruction,
1093
01:09:04,355 --> 01:09:07,676
that was another story for me to do
1094
01:09:07,756 --> 01:09:11,676
to keep the Joanna Yeates
story in our bulletins.
1095
01:09:18,198 --> 01:09:20,198
When they started filming it,
1096
01:09:20,278 --> 01:09:22,838
we were there filming
from a distance,
1097
01:09:22,918 --> 01:09:24,375
and I think the police
were a bit annoyed
1098
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:25,759
that we discovered it.
1099
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,880
They didn't like the idea of
them losing control over it.
1100
01:09:35,521 --> 01:09:39,562
I remember the actress who
looked remarkably like Joanna,
1101
01:09:41,602 --> 01:09:43,882
wearing the same white skiing jacket
1102
01:09:43,962 --> 01:09:46,443
that you can see in those CCTV images
1103
01:09:46,523 --> 01:09:48,283
of her last movements on the night.
1104
01:09:57,165 --> 01:10:00,245
We'd all got used to reconstructions
being done a week after,
1105
01:10:00,806 --> 01:10:02,325
because if you do it a week after,
1106
01:10:02,326 --> 01:10:06,047
at the same time, you're far
more likely to find people
1107
01:10:06,127 --> 01:10:09,127
who remember what they
were doing at that time.
1108
01:10:09,207 --> 01:10:13,048
It seemed odd to wait a month
to do that reconstruction,
1109
01:10:13,128 --> 01:10:15,088
and there were genuine
questions about, you know,
1110
01:10:15,168 --> 01:10:17,329
well, where is this
investigation going?
1111
01:10:24,850 --> 01:10:26,010
The irony was that
1112
01:10:26,090 --> 01:10:29,611
the reconstruction that
was shot never got shown.
1113
01:10:29,691 --> 01:10:30,811
Police in Bristol say
1114
01:10:30,891 --> 01:10:32,428
that they have made a
significant breakthrough
1115
01:10:32,452 --> 01:10:34,532
in their hunt for the
killer of Joanna Yeates
1116
01:10:34,612 --> 01:10:36,812
after arresting a 32-year-old man.
1117
01:10:37,652 --> 01:10:39,213
The Avon and Somerset force
1118
01:10:39,293 --> 01:10:41,413
haven't named their latest suspect,
1119
01:10:41,493 --> 01:10:43,974
the police reacting
perhaps to criticisms
1120
01:10:44,054 --> 01:10:46,694
following some coverage
of their first suspect.
1121
01:10:48,535 --> 01:10:50,311
Somebody started running
on their ticker tape
1122
01:10:50,335 --> 01:10:51,855
quite early on
1123
01:10:52,135 --> 01:10:54,576
that it was Vincent Tabak
that had been arrested,
1124
01:10:54,656 --> 01:10:57,256
at which point I had a phone
call from Martin Brunt.
1125
01:10:59,577 --> 01:11:01,697
I said, "Look, another
media organisation
1126
01:11:01,777 --> 01:11:07,258
has named Vincent Tabak as
the man who's been arrested.
1127
01:11:07,618 --> 01:11:08,658
Is it him?"
1128
01:11:08,698 --> 01:11:11,619
I would never give you the
name of anybody we've arrested.
1129
01:11:11,699 --> 01:11:12,899
I can't help you.
1130
01:11:12,979 --> 01:11:15,820
If I repeat it,
am I gonna be in trouble?
1131
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:18,580
Am I gonna cause myself
any legal problems?
1132
01:11:18,660 --> 01:11:23,021
If you were me, would you
follow what my rivals have done?
1133
01:11:23,101 --> 01:11:25,501
Looking for a nudge and a wink.
1134
01:11:25,581 --> 01:11:27,302
We don't confirm names.
1135
01:11:27,382 --> 01:11:30,022
We all identified Vincent Tabak
1136
01:11:30,102 --> 01:11:31,782
as the man who'd been arrested.
1137
01:11:34,863 --> 01:11:37,704
A reporter had
interviewed Vincent Tabak
1138
01:11:37,784 --> 01:11:38,920
before his arrest,
1139
01:11:38,944 --> 01:11:41,985
just as the neighbor, trying
to get a bit of background,
1140
01:11:42,065 --> 01:11:44,385
trying to get some
more colorful quotes.
1141
01:11:44,465 --> 01:11:46,625
He didn't raise any suspicions.
1142
01:11:49,626 --> 01:11:51,586
There was nothing that
you could describe as
1143
01:11:51,666 --> 01:11:55,147
being remotely eccentric about
his appearance or his manner.
1144
01:11:56,547 --> 01:12:00,027
Vincent Tabak was mild-mannered.
1145
01:12:00,028 --> 01:12:03,389
He had a decent job. He had a fiancรฉe.
1146
01:12:03,469 --> 01:12:08,189
There was nothing really
sinister or suspicious about him.
1147
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:16,111
I was driving back to
Bristol and got the news
1148
01:12:16,151 --> 01:12:20,072
that Vincent Tabak had been arrested,
1149
01:12:20,152 --> 01:12:24,713
and my immediate reaction
was I think it's very likely
1150
01:12:24,793 --> 01:12:28,273
that the police have
made another blunder.
1151
01:12:30,194 --> 01:12:33,074
He was a tenant who was,
in many ways, ideal.
1152
01:12:34,834 --> 01:12:37,915
During the 18 months
that I had known him,
1153
01:12:37,995 --> 01:12:41,276
he had given me absolutely
no cause whatsoever
1154
01:12:41,356 --> 01:12:45,076
to suggest that he was likely at all
1155
01:12:45,156 --> 01:12:48,397
to be involved in all this.
1156
01:12:53,238 --> 01:12:54,438
It had already been agreed
1157
01:12:54,518 --> 01:12:56,719
that I was gonna interview
the next suspect.
1158
01:12:57,639 --> 01:12:58,815
My passion as a detective
1159
01:12:58,839 --> 01:13:00,839
has always been
interviewing suspects.
1160
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,160
I sat next to him on purpose.
1161
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,280
I wanted to feel his leg
shaking against mine.
1162
01:13:08,041 --> 01:13:10,201
He denied all knowledge
of Jo's death,
1163
01:13:10,281 --> 01:13:12,658
and he, in fact, stated
through a prepared statement
1164
01:13:12,682 --> 01:13:14,562
that he'd never come
into contact with her,
1165
01:13:14,602 --> 01:13:16,962
knew who she was,
wished he could help us.
1166
01:13:18,443 --> 01:13:21,082
I know for a fact that the solicitor
1167
01:13:21,083 --> 01:13:24,404
and interpreter that
we ensured was present
1168
01:13:24,484 --> 01:13:27,443
in case there was any suggestion
1169
01:13:27,444 --> 01:13:30,325
that he didn't understand
questions put to him,
1170
01:13:31,405 --> 01:13:34,686
they were convinced that we
had an innocent man in custody.
1171
01:13:36,846 --> 01:13:39,647
Having spent three days in
the company of Vincent Tabak,
1172
01:13:39,727 --> 01:13:42,687
he was an extremely clever chap.
1173
01:13:42,767 --> 01:13:44,247
Analytical in his thinking.
1174
01:13:46,088 --> 01:13:48,928
Clearly not when it came
to internet search history.
1175
01:13:49,849 --> 01:13:51,129
Why was he researching
1176
01:13:51,209 --> 01:13:54,289
"how long does it take for a
body to decompose in the snow?"
1177
01:13:55,050 --> 01:13:59,490
Why was he looking at Longwood
Lane in his search history
1178
01:13:59,570 --> 01:14:01,331
prior to Jo even being found?
1179
01:14:03,051 --> 01:14:05,692
Why was he researching
bin collection in Clifton?
1180
01:14:08,732 --> 01:14:11,133
Why was he researching CCTV cameras?
1181
01:14:12,253 --> 01:14:13,293
Why was he researching
1182
01:14:13,373 --> 01:14:16,213
"can I serve my sentence
in the Netherlands?"
1183
01:14:18,814 --> 01:14:22,895
The moment that we started to
disclose evidence of forensics,
1184
01:14:22,975 --> 01:14:25,695
the interpreter stated to
me, "I no longer want to be
1185
01:14:25,775 --> 01:14:28,336
left in the consultation
room with that man."
1186
01:14:30,296 --> 01:14:32,777
They were now seeing the
game that he was playing.
1187
01:14:35,097 --> 01:14:39,738
We found from the forensic
examination of his computers
1188
01:14:40,898 --> 01:14:45,619
that he was a regular
user of hardcore porn,
1189
01:14:45,699 --> 01:14:49,700
and some of that porn
depicted women being strangled
1190
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:52,380
the same way that Jo was killed.
1191
01:14:57,701 --> 01:15:00,902
There was an area on Jo's chest
1192
01:15:00,982 --> 01:15:03,382
that showed that he'd
come into contact with her
1193
01:15:04,102 --> 01:15:06,383
under the back of her
jeans behind the knee.
1194
01:15:06,463 --> 01:15:08,903
That was quite interesting,
because if you were going to
1195
01:15:08,983 --> 01:15:10,400
lift someone out of
the boot of a car,
1196
01:15:10,424 --> 01:15:12,304
where would you hold them?
1197
01:15:13,024 --> 01:15:14,240
The final nail in the coffin,
1198
01:15:14,264 --> 01:15:15,441
bearing in mind that he said that
1199
01:15:15,465 --> 01:15:17,785
he'd never had any
association with her,
1200
01:15:17,865 --> 01:15:20,386
we found microscopic specks of blood
1201
01:15:20,466 --> 01:15:23,386
in the boot of his car
that belonged to Jo.
1202
01:15:25,546 --> 01:15:27,027
We knew we had him.
1203
01:15:48,591 --> 01:15:50,151
I remember Tabak's trial,
1204
01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:54,632
the amount of media
in the public gallery.
1205
01:15:54,712 --> 01:15:56,672
It was taken over. You
couldn't get in there.
1206
01:16:00,033 --> 01:16:02,794
Journalists camped outside
the court, taking photographs.
1207
01:16:03,914 --> 01:16:06,714
I wonder how many
of those journalists
1208
01:16:06,794 --> 01:16:08,395
were the ones that blamed Chris.
1209
01:16:14,276 --> 01:16:18,836
During the trial, Tabak's body
language was almost pleading
1210
01:16:18,916 --> 01:16:21,717
to people around him
to give him sympathy.
1211
01:16:22,957 --> 01:16:24,358
Before his trial,
1212
01:16:24,438 --> 01:16:27,998
Vincent Tabak was held
on remand in custody.
1213
01:16:28,078 --> 01:16:30,919
He had made this confession
to the prison chaplain
1214
01:16:30,999 --> 01:16:33,999
that he confessed to the killing.
1215
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,600
But in court, Tabak then
entered a manslaughter plea.
1216
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,241
He was trying to mitigate
1217
01:16:41,321 --> 01:16:44,321
his involvement in
her death in some way,
1218
01:16:44,401 --> 01:16:45,962
and I was annoyed with that.
1219
01:16:46,042 --> 01:16:47,202
She deserved more.
1220
01:16:50,322 --> 01:16:53,123
His version of events was
that she'd been coming home
1221
01:16:53,203 --> 01:16:55,203
after a night out with friends
1222
01:16:55,283 --> 01:16:58,684
and that she'd invited him
in to her flat for a drink.
1223
01:16:58,764 --> 01:17:01,404
She had made a flirtatious
comment to him.
1224
01:17:02,445 --> 01:17:05,485
I don't believe that for a moment,
not for a moment.
1225
01:17:07,566 --> 01:17:10,806
He had gone to kiss her,
but she had screamed.
1226
01:17:11,726 --> 01:17:14,687
So he's put his hand over
her mouth because she screamed.
1227
01:17:15,927 --> 01:17:17,808
He's taken it away and
she screamed again,
1228
01:17:17,888 --> 01:17:19,568
and he squeezed for about 20 seconds.
1229
01:17:44,012 --> 01:17:45,852
He said he hadn't
meant to kill her,
1230
01:17:46,413 --> 01:17:49,213
but then panicked and
disposed of the body.
1231
01:17:52,614 --> 01:17:54,774
- That's nonsense.
- There was a struggle.
1232
01:17:59,495 --> 01:18:03,336
There were around about
43 other injuries to Jo,
1233
01:18:03,816 --> 01:18:07,577
including scratches to
her torso, her arms,
1234
01:18:07,657 --> 01:18:11,057
and even a fractured nose,
which showed that
1235
01:18:11,058 --> 01:18:13,298
there had certainly been a
struggle prior to her death.
1236
01:18:15,058 --> 01:18:16,779
And then the
prosecution believed that
1237
01:18:16,859 --> 01:18:18,219
he'd driven around Bristol,
1238
01:18:18,299 --> 01:18:21,379
visiting a supermarket with
Joanna's body in the car,
1239
01:18:21,459 --> 01:18:24,500
before he then drove across the river
1240
01:18:24,580 --> 01:18:26,620
and put her body on
the side of the road.
1241
01:18:29,141 --> 01:18:33,142
Joanna's family were distraught,
listening to
1242
01:18:33,222 --> 01:18:36,822
the horrific detail of what
happened to their daughter
1243
01:18:36,902 --> 01:18:39,663
at the hands of Vincent Tabak.
1244
01:18:42,103 --> 01:18:47,103
He knew that Greg wasn't there
and gone back to Sheffield,
1245
01:18:47,104 --> 01:18:48,664
so she was home alone.
1246
01:18:49,185 --> 01:18:51,624
He knew that his
girlfriend was gonna be out
1247
01:18:51,625 --> 01:18:53,866
'til the early hours of the morning.
1248
01:18:54,426 --> 01:18:57,146
It was cold, cold and calculating.
1249
01:19:12,949 --> 01:19:15,630
Vincent Tabak is beginning
a life sentence tonight
1250
01:19:15,710 --> 01:19:17,366
after a jury found him guilty of
1251
01:19:17,390 --> 01:19:19,830
the murder of his
neighbor Joanna Yeates.
1252
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:22,551
Passing sentence, the
judge Mr. Justice Field,
1253
01:19:22,631 --> 01:19:26,032
described him as wicked,
deceitful, and manipulative.
1254
01:19:29,992 --> 01:19:32,153
You want to bring
closure to the family.
1255
01:19:35,233 --> 01:19:37,753
Here was a clearly heartbroken
family who wanted
1256
01:19:38,314 --> 01:19:42,195
there to be somebody brought
to justice for Jo's death.
1257
01:19:45,555 --> 01:19:48,316
I remember Jo's dad
coming to shake my hand
1258
01:19:48,396 --> 01:19:50,916
after I'd given evidence in court,
1259
01:19:51,876 --> 01:19:54,357
and he wouldn't let go of my hand,
and I've never forgotten it.
1260
01:19:56,637 --> 01:19:58,118
"Thank you. Thank you."
1261
01:20:22,242 --> 01:20:25,523
The Leveson Inquiry
was an investigation into
1262
01:20:25,603 --> 01:20:29,524
the culture and practice of the
ethics of the British press.
1263
01:20:32,644 --> 01:20:36,285
The reputation of the British press
1264
01:20:36,365 --> 01:20:39,045
was quickly disappearing down
the toilet, quite honestly.
1265
01:20:39,125 --> 01:20:41,446
The News of The World was all about
1266
01:20:41,526 --> 01:20:43,686
sex, drugs, and rock
and roll, really.
1267
01:20:43,766 --> 01:20:47,167
We used to pursue those
topics with vigor,
1268
01:20:47,247 --> 01:20:49,487
and it was right.
1269
01:20:49,567 --> 01:20:50,848
We needed to be tamed.
1270
01:20:53,528 --> 01:20:57,649
The Leveson Inquiry was born out of
the phone-hacking scandal.
1271
01:20:58,649 --> 01:21:00,889
A variety of celebrities came forward
1272
01:21:00,969 --> 01:21:02,690
that had their privacy breached,
1273
01:21:02,770 --> 01:21:05,610
but it was in particular
the press's hacking of
1274
01:21:05,690 --> 01:21:08,611
the phone of murdered
teenager Milly Dowler
1275
01:21:08,691 --> 01:21:11,171
that really brought
it into the forefront.
1276
01:21:13,212 --> 01:21:15,212
There really was a deep dive
1277
01:21:15,292 --> 01:21:18,813
into British press
standards at the time,
1278
01:21:19,253 --> 01:21:23,614
and in order for that
inquiry to have substance,
1279
01:21:23,694 --> 01:21:26,694
somebody like Christopher Jefferies
1280
01:21:26,774 --> 01:21:29,735
would be an important
person to hear from.
1281
01:21:31,575 --> 01:21:33,856
- So may I call now Mr.
- Christopher Jefferies?
1282
01:21:35,136 --> 01:21:38,296
I appeared at the Leveson Inquiry
1283
01:21:38,376 --> 01:21:41,777
to talk about my experience
1284
01:21:41,857 --> 01:21:44,538
of the press coverage.
1285
01:21:45,338 --> 01:21:50,619
The couple of months while
I was still under suspicion,
1286
01:21:51,179 --> 01:21:52,235
without doubt,
1287
01:21:52,259 --> 01:21:56,980
the most difficult period
I think I have spent.
1288
01:21:57,940 --> 01:22:02,021
Lord Leveson also took
evidence from journalists.
1289
01:22:02,981 --> 01:22:04,180
Everybody at The Daily Mirror
1290
01:22:04,181 --> 01:22:08,422
is very regretful of the coverage,
1291
01:22:08,502 --> 01:22:11,702
and, you know, we do
apologise to Mr. Jefferies
1292
01:22:11,703 --> 01:22:13,623
for vilifying him in such a way.
1293
01:22:14,743 --> 01:22:16,920
But I'd like to specify
my sincere personal regrets
1294
01:22:16,944 --> 01:22:20,544
that my actions contributed
to and exacerbated
1295
01:22:20,624 --> 01:22:23,305
the acute personal distress
felt by Mr. Jefferies.
1296
01:22:32,627 --> 01:22:36,027
The Leveson Inquiry
1297
01:22:36,107 --> 01:22:40,388
was also intended to investigate
1298
01:22:40,468 --> 01:22:43,349
potentially corrupt links
1299
01:22:43,429 --> 01:22:48,029
between the press and the police.
1300
01:22:52,230 --> 01:22:53,511
Several senior officers
1301
01:22:53,591 --> 01:22:55,991
in the Joanna Yeates investigation,
1302
01:22:56,071 --> 01:23:00,272
including the senior responsible
officer DCI Phil Jones
1303
01:23:00,352 --> 01:23:02,272
and the Chief Constable Colin Port,
1304
01:23:02,352 --> 01:23:04,152
gave evidence to the inquiry.
1305
01:23:10,474 --> 01:23:13,954
The inquiry was
looking at claims that
1306
01:23:14,034 --> 01:23:16,355
Avon and Somerset Police had been
1307
01:23:16,435 --> 01:23:20,396
institutionally leaking
information to the media.
1308
01:23:22,516 --> 01:23:24,275
The editor of The Mirror
gave a statement saying that
1309
01:23:24,276 --> 01:23:27,396
they'd been doing
off-the-record briefings
1310
01:23:27,397 --> 01:23:29,477
as part of the investigation.
1311
01:23:30,237 --> 01:23:33,678
The police do give
guidance on these issues,
1312
01:23:33,758 --> 01:23:37,799
and if they had not
indicated that they
1313
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:42,720
had presumed they were
on the right track,
1314
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,696
then I don't think the
journalists would've been
1315
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,480
writing what they've been writing.
1316
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,801
We don't give
off-the-record briefings,
1317
01:23:48,881 --> 01:23:52,482
and to behave in a collusive
manner is just abhorrent.
1318
01:23:57,242 --> 01:23:58,803
In the wake of Leveson,
1319
01:23:58,883 --> 01:24:03,364
police officers stopped
talking to people like me
1320
01:24:03,444 --> 01:24:04,684
for a long time.
1321
01:24:07,484 --> 01:24:11,005
I would send texts,
I'd ring my contacts,
1322
01:24:11,085 --> 01:24:13,446
and often they would either ignore me
1323
01:24:13,526 --> 01:24:15,646
or they would just say,
"Look, I can't talk to you
1324
01:24:15,726 --> 01:24:20,727
because Leveson decreed that
there should be a record of,
1325
01:24:21,127 --> 01:24:24,248
you know, contact between
journalists and reporters,
1326
01:24:24,328 --> 01:24:27,008
and no police officer
will want to be known
1327
01:24:27,088 --> 01:24:28,208
to be helping you."
1328
01:24:31,369 --> 01:24:34,810
After Leveson, the press were
trying to behave themselves
1329
01:24:34,890 --> 01:24:36,290
and had cleaned up their act.
1330
01:24:36,370 --> 01:24:39,810
I think that's fair to say,
and they needed to,
1331
01:24:39,890 --> 01:24:43,451
but at the end of the day,
it was too late.
1332
01:24:43,531 --> 01:24:45,011
The genie's out of the bottle.
1333
01:24:45,091 --> 01:24:48,292
Social media had completely exploded.
1334
01:24:51,733 --> 01:24:55,533
You've got Facebook,
TikTok, Instagram.
1335
01:24:55,813 --> 01:24:58,374
The world has suddenly
become a journalist,
1336
01:24:58,454 --> 01:25:02,495
and people were just
writing whatever they liked.
1337
01:25:05,055 --> 01:25:08,016
The whole media landscape has changed
1338
01:25:08,096 --> 01:25:11,096
and it's virtually unregulated.
1339
01:25:11,176 --> 01:25:14,377
This is really dangerous
territory we've landed ourself in.
1340
01:25:16,057 --> 01:25:17,858
Take, for instance, Nicola Bulley,
1341
01:25:20,698 --> 01:25:23,859
who tragically slipped
1342
01:25:24,019 --> 01:25:26,619
into a river near her home.
1343
01:25:31,540 --> 01:25:32,900
There were a lot of similarities
1344
01:25:32,980 --> 01:25:34,901
between Joanna Yeates
and Nicola Bulley.
1345
01:25:34,981 --> 01:25:36,101
They're both whites.
1346
01:25:36,181 --> 01:25:37,501
They're both middle class,
1347
01:25:39,742 --> 01:25:42,182
but that frenzy of interest,
1348
01:25:42,262 --> 01:25:44,023
back with Joanna, it was the press,
1349
01:25:44,103 --> 01:25:47,463
whereas with Nicola Bulley,
it was social media,
1350
01:25:47,543 --> 01:25:51,624
but it was the same kind of
hounding, relentless interest,
1351
01:25:51,704 --> 01:25:55,065
day after day updates,
kind of stopping at nothing
1352
01:25:55,145 --> 01:25:57,185
to get a new sliver of information.
1353
01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:02,226
They were both defamatory
in their own right.
1354
01:26:02,306 --> 01:26:05,026
We look at the level of defamation,
1355
01:26:05,106 --> 01:26:07,107
of false information in Nicola.
1356
01:26:07,187 --> 01:26:09,707
It was off the charts
compared to Joanna's case.
1357
01:26:11,828 --> 01:26:13,627
When Jo went missing,
1358
01:26:13,628 --> 01:26:17,229
there were less than a billion
social media users worldwide
1359
01:26:17,309 --> 01:26:20,589
on all platforms, but when
Nicola Bulley went missing,
1360
01:26:20,669 --> 01:26:22,686
that had grown to five billion.
1361
01:26:22,710 --> 01:26:25,270
Can you imagine what it would be like
1362
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:27,431
if Jo had gone missing today?
1363
01:26:27,511 --> 01:26:30,951
It would be across Insta, TikTok, X.
1364
01:26:31,031 --> 01:26:33,232
It would be explosive,
1365
01:26:33,312 --> 01:26:35,952
and the fate of Christopher Jefferies
1366
01:26:36,032 --> 01:26:37,753
on those social media platforms,
1367
01:26:37,833 --> 01:26:39,633
it doesn't even bear thinking about.
1368
01:26:43,154 --> 01:26:44,634
It was the Nicola Bulley case
1369
01:26:45,514 --> 01:26:48,315
that has begun to turn the
tide in our relationship
1370
01:26:48,395 --> 01:26:52,795
to a point where
police chiefs in the UK
1371
01:26:52,875 --> 01:26:56,996
have now drawn up a
kind of new protocol
1372
01:26:57,076 --> 01:27:00,397
where we are beginning
to talk to each other
1373
01:27:00,477 --> 01:27:03,957
in the way that we used
to pre the Leveson report.
1374
01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:18,320
The funeral of murdered
landscape architect Jo Yeates
1375
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,641
took place today in the Hampshire
village where she grew up.
1376
01:27:21,721 --> 01:27:24,201
Ms. Yeates' coffin was
followed by her parents,
1377
01:27:24,281 --> 01:27:26,802
David and Teresa, and
her brother Chris.
1378
01:27:28,922 --> 01:27:31,443
Greg Reardon, her boyfriend,
followed them.
1379
01:27:41,605 --> 01:27:43,285
Jo was one of the
world's good people.
1380
01:27:43,365 --> 01:27:46,445
She was a genuinely nice,
good person.
1381
01:27:50,446 --> 01:27:53,527
Jo was a young woman
1382
01:27:53,607 --> 01:27:59,168
recently in a relationship
with her boyfriend.
1383
01:28:00,808 --> 01:28:02,729
This was the first time
1384
01:28:02,809 --> 01:28:06,569
that they were going to
set up house together.
1385
01:28:08,490 --> 01:28:10,930
She was certainly very much in love.
1386
01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:18,932
She was somebody with a
promising career before her.
1387
01:28:20,652 --> 01:28:24,492
Particularly on this case,
you do think of, you know,
1388
01:28:24,493 --> 01:28:28,733
the sadness of her lost
life and her family.
1389
01:28:30,494 --> 01:28:34,454
They're still left with this
huge empty hole in their lives.
1390
01:28:42,296 --> 01:28:46,537
When people ask me about my
previous career in the police
1391
01:28:46,617 --> 01:28:49,297
and they learn about
the Jo Yeates case,
1392
01:28:49,377 --> 01:28:51,458
they always mention Chris Jefferies.
1393
01:28:53,618 --> 01:28:54,698
Not Tabak.
1394
01:28:56,019 --> 01:28:57,059
Not Jo.
1395
01:28:58,979 --> 01:29:02,340
That's people's memory of
this particular murder.
1396
01:29:06,861 --> 01:29:09,820
Perhaps they do
forget that, you know,
1397
01:29:09,821 --> 01:29:11,021
at the heart of this story
1398
01:29:11,101 --> 01:29:12,982
is the awful murder of a young woman.
1399
01:29:16,062 --> 01:29:17,823
There's cases that stay with you.
1400
01:29:19,023 --> 01:29:23,704
I often drive by the
scene and remember her,
1401
01:29:25,224 --> 01:29:28,705
and there's still flowers left there.
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