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And now one of the most respected
investors in America
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is going to tell you
about his secrets.
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Warren Buffett.
It's the sound of money.
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Billionaire investor Warren Buffett,
the second richest man in America.
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He's estimated to be worth
about 62 billion dollars
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and makes him
the richest man in the world.
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You know Buffett is not exactly
what you might expect.
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Even though he's
in the money business
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he doesn't even own
a calculator or a computer.
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He takes the long view,
and it's made him billions
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many billions.
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Maybe you can beat the house
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but I don't think
you can beat Warren Buffett.
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Buffett filed his first tax return
at 13 years old.
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But he's no average billionaire, Tom.
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No, he certainly isn't, Matt.
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He's a 44 billion dollar average Joe.
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Warren Buffett has an approach
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that doesn't make him very popular
with his fellow billionaires.
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Warren Buffett, the boy from Nebraska
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who grew up to become
the Wizard of Omaha.
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What was it about him
that allowed him
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to become the richest man
in the world?
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How did he do it?
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Seventy years ago,
I was in high school,
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almost a third as long
as the country has been around.
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And when I was in high school
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I really only had
two things on my mind
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girls and cars.
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And I wasn't doing
very well with girls
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so we'll talk about cars.
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But let's just imagine
that when we finish
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I'm going to let each one of you
pick out the car of your choice.
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Sounds good, doesn't it?
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Pick it out, any color, you name it.
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It will be tied up with a bow
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and it'll be at your house tomorrow.
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And you say,
"Well, what's the catch?"
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And the catch is
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that it's the only car you're
going to get in your lifetime.
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Now what are you going to do
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knowing that that's the only car
you're ever going to have
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and you love that car?
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You're going to take care of it
like you cannot believe.
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Now what I'd like to suggest...
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you're not going to get
only one car in your lifetime.
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But you're going to get one body
and one mind
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and that's all you're going to get.
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And that body and mind
feels terrific now
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but it has to last you a lifetime.
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On the way to the office,
it's all of a five-minute drive.
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I've been doing it for 54 years.
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One of the good things
about this five-minute drive
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is that, on the way,
there's a McDonalds
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so I'll pick up something.
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Good morning, thank you
for choosing McDonalds.
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Go ahead and order
whenever you're ready.
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I'll have a Sausage McMuffin
with egg and cheese.
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- Anything else?
- That's it, thank you.
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Yeah, and I tell my wife,
as I shave in the morning
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I say either $2.61, $2.95 or $3.17
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and she puts that amount
in a little cup by me here
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and that determines
which of three breakfasts I get.
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- That will be $2.95.
- Okay, $2.95.
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- Here's the $2.
- How are you doing, sir?
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Hey, great.
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- You're on Candid Camera.
- I see. Hello, everybody!
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When I'm not feeling
quite so prosperous
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I might go with a $2.61
which is two sausage patties
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and then I put them together
and pour myself a Coke.
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- Hi, how are you?
- Here's your Sausage McMuffin, sir.
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$3.17 is
a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit.
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But the market's down this morning
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so I think I'll pass up the $3.17
and go with the $2.95.
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I like numbers.
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It started before I can remember.
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It just felt good
working with numbers.
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I was always playing around
with numbers in one way or another.
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And it was fun to have
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a bunch of guys over
and have them betting on
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which marble
would reach the drain first.
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I had a lot of energy as a kid.
I was inquisitive
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and I was the youngest one always
in the class because I'd skip.
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I've always been competitive.
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I liked to read more than most kids.
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I really liked to read a lot.
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My Aunt Edie gave me a copy
of The World Almanac.
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And that was heaven to me.
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And I can still tell you
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that Omaha's population
was 214,006 in 1930.
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Some numbers
just kind of stick with you.
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And very early,
probably when I was 7 or so
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I took this book
out of the Benson library
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called A Thousand Ways
to Make a $1000.
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And one of the ways in this book
was having penny weighing machines.
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And I sat and calculated
how much it would cost
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to buy the first weighing machine
and then how long it would take
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for the profit from that one
to buy another one.
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I would sit there and create
these compound interest tables
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to figure out how long
it would take me to have
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a weighing machine
for every person in the world.
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I had everybody in the country
weighing themselves
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ten times a day
and me just sitting there
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like the John D. Rockefeller
of weighing machines.
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The allowance when I was
a little boy was a nickel a week.
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But I liked the idea of having
a little more than a nickel a week
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to work with
and I went into business very early.
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I started selling Coca-Cola
door to door.
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I sold gum door to door.
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I sold Saturday Evening Post
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Liberty magazine,
Ladies Home Journal, you name it.
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I think I enjoyed the game
almost right from the start.
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But I like being my own boss.
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That's one thing I liked
about delivering papers.
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I could arrange the route I wanted.
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Nobody was bothering me
at 5 or 6 in the morning.
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I was delivering 500 papers a day,
and I made a penny a paper.
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But, in terms of compounding
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that penny has turned
into something else.
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Einstein is reputed to have said
that compound interest
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is the eighth wonder of the world
or something like that
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and it goes back to that story
you probably learned
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when you were in grade school
where somebody did something
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for the king and the king said,
"What can I do for you?"
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And he said,
"Well, let's take a chessboard
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and put one kernel of wheat
on the first square
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and then double it on the second
and double it on the third."
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And the king readily agreed to it
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and by the time he figured out
what two to the 64th amounted to
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he was giving away
the entire kingdom.
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So it's a pretty simple concept
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but, over time, it accomplishes
extraordinary things.
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Berkshire is an amazing company
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fourth largest company
in the Fortune 500.
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He is the only person
who has ever, from scratch
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built a company that is
in the top 10 of the Fortune 500.
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Berkshire Hathaway. Fine, thank you.
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Well, Berkshire is
a holding company of sorts.
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It owns a large number
of separate businesses
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that operate
independently of each other
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and, to a great extent,
from the parent company
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Berkshire Hathaway.
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What colors do they have?
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My favorite green and gold.
It's so strong.
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All right, well, we're going to get
more from you in a second...
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We have maybe 70,
maybe 80 businesses.
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And we ask them to behave in a way
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that doesn't hurt our reputation
at Berkshire Hathaway.
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But they run their own lives.
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Other people do most
of the decorating in the office
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so various things come in.
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Originally,
when I moved in in 1962...
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You can see this.
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I went down
to the South Omaha Library
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and I think, for a dollar
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I got seven copies
of old New York Times
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from big times
like the panic of 1907.
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This is one, 1929 obviously.
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But I wanted to put on the walls
days of extreme panic in Wall Street
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just as a reminder that anything
can happen in this world.
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I mean it's instructive art,
you can call it.
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I was born in 1930
here in Omaha, Nebraska
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during the stock market crash.
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My dad lost his job in 1931,
a year after I was born.
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He was a stock salesman
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and he had what little savings
he had in the bank
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and so he started his own company.
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He worked
right through the depression.
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He had an investment company and...
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As an adult,
when I looked back, I thought
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"Wow, did that ever take
a lot of nerve."
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Sometimes, we'd go down there
on Sunday
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and we could play
with the adding machine.
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My brother and I tended
to play the games together.
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And I remember, at one point
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he said to me,
"I'm going to be a millionaire
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by the time I'm 30,"
or something like that.
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It was totally outside of anything
my family had experienced
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but he just was unusual that way.
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Well, I was the oldest
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and then my brother
and then my sister.
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And my father would go
to New York periodically
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to check on businesses and stocks
and things like that.
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When he'd come back, he always had
a costume for each of us
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and Warren loved it.
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He was very good-natured.
He was quiet.
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It was hard to tell
he was a genius at that point.
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But, I mean, who was looking?
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The first books I read on investment
were actually in my dad's office.
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Pretty soon,
I read all the books in the office
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and read some of them more than once.
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My dad had various nicknames for me.
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He'd call me "fireball" sometimes,
because I'd start little businesses.
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He didn't care about money at all.
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He believed very much
in having an inner scorecard
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and to never worry
about what other people
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are thinking about you,
you know, just...
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If you know why you're doing
what you're doing
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that's good enough.
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I admired everything about him
to the extent
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that I was absorbing lessons
from him without knowing it.
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And the idea
that all lives have equal value
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is something
that all three of his children felt
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since I can remember.
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My dad, at one point,
ran for congress
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when I was 12 or so.
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It was a very Republican household.
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And I campaigned for him.
My sisters campaigned for him.
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The whole family did.
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My mother was very, very bright,
and she was very gregarious.
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She was a good campaigner for my dad.
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She had a lot of ambition.
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And I think my brother Warren got
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a lot of his extreme competitiveness
from my mother actually.
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She was brilliant at math.
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You know, I guess
they still had these things
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where you crank them
and things added up.
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And she could add it in her head
faster than the machine could do it.
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She was absolutely amazing in that.
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She was very dutiful
about taking care of the kids.
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But you didn't get
the same feeling of love.
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It was there, but it just...
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It didn't come out the same way
as with my dad.
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In the nation,
the only permanent way to prosperity
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is a balanced budget.
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Unless that goal is achieved
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all post-war plans will collapse
like Hitler's conquest.
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You have heard
Congressman Howard L.H. Buffett
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Republican member
of the House of Representatives
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from Nebraska speaking on the...
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When I was about 12 or 13,
we moved to Washington, my family
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and I was mad.
I was having fun in Omaha.
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And I lost all my friends,
and now I moved to a town
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where they were all strange and...
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So I was very, very unhappy.
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At school, I just lost interest.
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I took pleasure
in tormenting my teachers.
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At that time for example,
AT&T was the stock
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that all teachers owned
for their retirement.
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And I decided
that it would drive my teachers
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a little crazy
if I went short the stock.
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Because when you go short a stock,
you're betting that it will go down.
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So I shorted ten shares of AT&T
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and then brought
the confirmation to school
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and showed these teachers
I was shorting the stock.
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They found me a big pain in the neck
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but they did think
I knew a lot about stocks.
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And then at home
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my mother would have
terrific headaches.
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And you didn't want to be around her
when she was having the headaches.
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And she would lash out more.
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She would never do it in public.
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Well, I think
we were terrified of her.
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When I'd wake up in the morning,
I'd listen to hear her voice.
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I could tell, by her voice, it was
going to be a terrible day or not.
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When she got difficult,
the three children felt it.
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When I was at a low point sort of,
I decided that I would run away.
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So I talked two other guys
into running away with me.
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So we went out,
and we start hitchhiking.
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And then we got picked up
by the highway patrol
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and that scared the hell out of us.
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It's very interesting.
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My dad never really gave me hell
about doing this.
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But he finally said, you know...
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He said,
"You can do better than this."
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And just saying that
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I mean I felt I was
letting him down, basically.
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So in all ways, he was teaching me.
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Never taught by telling me things.
He just taught by example.
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He had unlimited confidence in me
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even when I screwed up,
and that takes you a long, long way.
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The best gift I was ever given
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was to have the father
that I had when I was born.
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I didn't want to go to college.
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I was 16
when I got out of high school
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and I was buying stocks.
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I mean, I actually was having
a pretty good time and I didn't see
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that really was much to be gained
by going to college.
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But my dad
kind of jollied me into it.
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He had a roommate
who was a friend of mine
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and the roommate said
it would just drive him crazy
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because he studied all the time.
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When Warren would come in
like 15 minutes before the exam
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and just ace his way through it.
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I finished in three years,
because I had enough credits.
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And I was in a hurry.
I wanted to get out.
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When I got out
of the University of Nebraska
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I applied to Harvard Business School.
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They told me I was to get interviewed
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in a place near Chicago.
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I got there, and he interviewed me
for about 10 minutes
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And he said, "Forget it,
you're not going to Harvard."
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And so now I'm thinking,
"What do I tell my dad?"
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You know, "This is terrible."
And it turned out to be
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the best thing
that ever happened to me.
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Later that summer,
I was looking through a catalogue.
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And in the catalogue
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it had these names of people
that were teaching.
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And one was Graham
and another was Dodd.
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I had read this book
by the two of them.
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So I wrote him a letter
in mid-August
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and I said, "Dear Professor Dodd."
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I said,
"I thought you guys were dead.
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But now that I found out
that you're alive
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and teaching at Columbia,
I would really like to come."
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And he admitted me. So you know what?
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That, it just shows,
you never can tell.
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Gentlemen, Professor Graham.
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Ben was this incredible teacher.
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I mean he was a natural,
and he drew us all in.
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Are Wall Street professionals
more accurate
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in the shorter term
than the long term forecast?
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Well, our studies indicate
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that you have your choice
between tossing coins
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and taking the consensus
of expert opinions.
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And the results are
just about the same in each case.
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It was like learning baseball
from a fellow whose batting .400.
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It really...
It shaped my professional life.
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There are two rules of investing
according to Warren
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and he learned this from Ben Graham.
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Rule Number one, never lose money.
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Rule Number two,
never forget Rule Number one.
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Ben Graham basically coined
the term value investing.
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He believed in careful scrutiny
of a company's financial statements
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and that if you bought value,
it would eventually prove out.
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A few years ago, I went to Amazon
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and sure enough,
they had this manual there, so...
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while reliving my youth
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other guys were going
to Amazon probably
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and buying old Playboys or something.
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But I bought
old Moody's Manuals instead.
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And when I got out of school,
I started selling stocks.
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I was 20 years old at the time
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and looked about 16
and acted about 12.
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So I was not
the most impressive salesperson
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anybody ever met.
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But what I would do was
I went through page by page
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looking for possibly
undervalued stocks.
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Is this like going
through an old family album?
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Better.
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When I got out of business school
at Columbia
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I'd developed pretty decent skills
in terms of business
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but I hadn't really come to terms
with the world exactly.
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What were you like
around girls back then?
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Bad. I was...
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I was sort of out of the swing
of things there for a while.
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I went to my 60th reunion.
There was a girl there.
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I took her out one time
to the Uptown Theater
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in Washington and I asked her
whether she remembered
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what movie we saw, and she said,
"No, I don't remember that."
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And then she said,
"But I do remember one thing."
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And like an idiot,
I said, "What was that?"
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And she said, "Well,
you picked me up in a hearse."
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And it was true
that I owned a half-interest
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in a hearse
while I was in high school
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which was
not the smoothest thing that...
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Or coolest, as they would say now,
that you could do on a date.
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There were two turning points
in my life
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once when I came out of the womb
and once when I met Susie basically.
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She was the girl, yep.
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But it took her a little longer
to figure out I was the boy.
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I was going to be
his youngest sister's roommate
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at Northwestern.
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So I walk into their house,
and he was sitting in this chair
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and he made some sarcastic quip.
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So I made one back.
I thought, "Who is this jerk?"
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And that's how we met, yes.
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00:20:45,363 --> 00:20:48,283
Listen, Warren is smarter
than you even know.
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His brain is going all the time.
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And my dad said to me
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"Now you have
to understand about him
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you're not going to have
discussions with him
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like you would most normal people.
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But he has a heart of gold."
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He was just totally enamored of her,
and why not? And she of him.
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She'd sit on his lap all the time,
and he'd stroke her hair.
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It was softening him.
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Susie was really kind, considerate
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and she was the balancing force.
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I just got very, very, very lucky.
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But I was a lopsided person,
and it took a while.
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But she just stood there
with a little watering can
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and just nourished me along
and changed me.
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Somebody once said
that the chains of habit
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are too light to be felt
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until they're too heavy to be broken.
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I had been terrified
of public speaking.
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I couldn't do it, I'd throw up.
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And I knew if I didn't cure it then,
I'd never cure it.
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And so I saw an ad in the paper
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for the Dale Carnegie Course,
which worked on developing
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your ability to speak in public
and I went down there.
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Be sincere.
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A good smile has the same effect
as a puppy's tail.
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They made us do
all these crazy things
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to get out of ourselves.
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And so we stood on tables
and did all kinds of things.
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If I hadn't had done that
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my whole life
would have been different.
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So in my office, you will not see
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the degree I got
from the University of Nebraska.
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You will not see the master's degree
I got from Columbia University.
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But you'll see
the little award certificate
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I got from the Dale Carnegie Course.
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As a matter of fact, every week
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the instructor would give a pencil
to whoever had done the most
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with what we learned the week before.
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And so in the fourth or fifth week
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I proposed to her mother,
and she said yes.
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And so that week, I won the pencil
and I also got engaged.
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I mean, it was an incredible week.
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The wedding day
was kind of interesting
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because I couldn't see anything
without my glasses
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and I was so nervous that I just
decided to take off my glasses
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and I wouldn't be able to see
all those people out there.
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She was 19 when we got married,
and I was 21.
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But she was
so much more mature than I was.
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There's no comparison.
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She was a better person than I was.
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But when you get married,
it's not a question of saying
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I'm going to put
a 14 percent factor in for humor
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and 17 percent for intellect
and 22 percent for looks.
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It doesn't work that way.
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I knew it was the right decision,
and it was.
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You could live anywhere in the world
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- why do you choose Omaha, Nebraska?
- Yeah, I love it, and I...
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00:24:17,285 --> 00:24:20,121
You know, I was born
about a mile from here
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00:24:20,204 --> 00:24:23,958
and, you know, I've never had
a bad experience in Omaha.
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00:24:36,596 --> 00:24:38,723
Omaha and Nebraska are home to me.
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00:24:41,142 --> 00:24:42,894
Everything about it seems like home.
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00:24:45,522 --> 00:24:48,691
It's the pace. It's relationships.
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There's a lot of continuity.
There's a lot of community.
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There's a lot of friendship.
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It's a very solid place
and friendly place
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in which to grow up in
and in which to conduct a business.
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00:25:04,332 --> 00:25:08,003
When I came back to Omaha
in early 1956
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I had no idea what I was going to do.
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00:25:11,631 --> 00:25:14,551
But a few months after I came back,
some members of the family said
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"What should we do with our money?"
and I said
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"Well, I'm not going back
in the business of selling stocks
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00:25:18,763 --> 00:25:20,724
but if you would like to join me
in a partnership,"
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00:25:20,807 --> 00:25:21,892
I said, "I'll be glad to do it."
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So within a couple of months
after coming back
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I set up the first partnership.
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00:25:33,153 --> 00:25:36,698
I wrote all the checks individually.
I filed 11 income tax returns.
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00:25:36,781 --> 00:25:39,951
I took delivery on stocks
for all these different companies.
447
00:25:40,035 --> 00:25:43,330
I was a one-man band there
for six years.
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00:25:47,042 --> 00:25:50,420
Warren would sit upstairs
in his little office there.
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And I would bring up
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the name of a company
and, most of the time
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00:25:54,257 --> 00:25:56,218
he knew much more
than I did about the company.
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He'd know
how many shares were outstanding.
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00:25:58,470 --> 00:26:01,014
He'd know the capitalization.
He'd know the earnings.
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00:26:01,098 --> 00:26:02,891
It was absolutely incredible.
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00:26:04,268 --> 00:26:07,354
I mean, when Warren said something,
it meant a heck of a lot.
456
00:26:07,437 --> 00:26:10,107
And I think all of us
paid a lot of attention to Warren
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00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:13,360
when he took
a definite stand on something.
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00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,241
When I first met Warren back in 1959
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I recognized immediately
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00:26:20,909 --> 00:26:24,413
that he was
a very intelligent person.
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00:26:24,621 --> 00:26:26,081
For the last four or five years
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00:26:26,165 --> 00:26:27,791
the stock market
has been booming along
463
00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:30,461
and presumably forecasting
better business
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00:26:30,544 --> 00:26:32,379
which has really not materialized.
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00:26:32,463 --> 00:26:34,631
So maybe the stock market
is really correcting
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00:26:34,715 --> 00:26:36,800
a previous incorrect forecast
this time
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00:26:36,884 --> 00:26:38,510
rather than making a new correct one.
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00:26:39,094 --> 00:26:43,390
He made a lot of money buying
thinly traded securities
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00:26:43,474 --> 00:26:46,852
that were
incredibly cheap statistically.
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00:26:50,397 --> 00:26:53,442
Warren was, at that time,
dealing with small companies.
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00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:57,238
And his investments often were
to buy a company
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00:26:57,321 --> 00:27:00,616
that you could figure
was a discarded cigar butt
473
00:27:00,699 --> 00:27:02,952
but it had one more smoke in it.
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00:27:03,202 --> 00:27:05,454
And he wanted to buy
at the right time
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00:27:05,538 --> 00:27:08,332
to be able to benefit
from the one smoke.
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00:27:09,208 --> 00:27:12,753
The first partnership started
with $105,100.
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00:27:12,837 --> 00:27:14,171
I put up the 100,
and the other people
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00:27:14,255 --> 00:27:15,881
put up the 105,000.
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00:27:15,965 --> 00:27:20,428
And then at the start of 1962,
I moved to Kiewit Plaza.
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00:27:20,511 --> 00:27:22,972
And by the time
I moved to Kiewit Plaza
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00:27:23,055 --> 00:27:25,391
we had $7 million dollars invested
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00:27:25,474 --> 00:27:27,643
and a fair amount was profits.
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00:27:31,439 --> 00:27:35,109
I was then renting a house,
I never owned a house to that point.
484
00:27:36,110 --> 00:27:37,403
And then two years later
485
00:27:37,486 --> 00:27:40,615
I bought the house
I live in today in 1958.
486
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:51,000
We had three children, Susie and I.
487
00:27:54,879 --> 00:27:58,049
And we had them young, incidentally,
which was I think a very good thing.
488
00:28:03,513 --> 00:28:05,264
My daughter Susie was born here.
489
00:28:06,933 --> 00:28:09,102
I named her Susie just like that
as soon as I looked at her
490
00:28:09,185 --> 00:28:10,603
because she looked
just like her mother.
491
00:28:14,941 --> 00:28:16,984
And she was a cinch.
492
00:28:20,113 --> 00:28:24,575
And then Howie was, you know,
this absolute bundle of energy
493
00:28:25,910 --> 00:28:30,081
which made things very difficult
for big Susie for a while.
494
00:28:33,334 --> 00:28:36,004
Peter again reverted back
to Susie's personality
495
00:28:36,087 --> 00:28:38,047
and he was an easy child.
496
00:28:43,052 --> 00:28:44,971
Well, you know, I would describe
my childhood as normal
497
00:28:45,054 --> 00:28:46,723
but who knows what normal is.
498
00:28:47,432 --> 00:28:48,808
People often think
499
00:28:48,892 --> 00:28:51,394
you know, "Well, Warren Buffett
was this famous rich guy."
500
00:28:51,478 --> 00:28:53,980
He was not famous and he wasn't rich
when we were growing up.
501
00:28:56,274 --> 00:29:02,363
What I saw first and foremost,
day in and day out, was consistency.
502
00:29:03,323 --> 00:29:06,368
Every day, we'd hear the garage door
close in the house
503
00:29:06,534 --> 00:29:09,913
and then, like clockwork,
my dad would come in the door
504
00:29:09,996 --> 00:29:11,206
"I'm home!"
505
00:29:11,289 --> 00:29:13,291
And we'd all eat dinner together
506
00:29:13,375 --> 00:29:15,543
which I think surprises
a lot of people.
507
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:21,049
My dad
used to rock me to sleep at night
508
00:29:21,132 --> 00:29:22,509
and sing "Over the Rainbow".
509
00:29:22,884 --> 00:29:27,013
So I have this insanely sentimental
attachment to that song.
510
00:29:27,722 --> 00:29:30,016
I've always had a really close
relationship with him.
511
00:29:35,814 --> 00:29:37,566
I've got three very different kids
512
00:29:37,649 --> 00:29:41,069
and they've got a common heart
which they got from their mother.
513
00:29:43,738 --> 00:29:46,741
She did most of the work, by far,
of bringing up the children
514
00:29:46,825 --> 00:29:48,410
which is probably a good thing.
515
00:29:48,785 --> 00:29:50,412
They have more of her qualities
than mine
516
00:29:50,495 --> 00:29:53,039
which I would recommend.
517
00:29:54,416 --> 00:29:57,794
Well, my mom was the biggest part
of my life growing up.
518
00:29:58,503 --> 00:30:01,006
Even though I got disciplined
on a regular basis
519
00:30:01,089 --> 00:30:02,549
and she was
usually the one doing it
520
00:30:02,632 --> 00:30:04,176
she was still my best friend.
521
00:30:04,718 --> 00:30:06,970
She was somebody
who would help anybody
522
00:30:07,054 --> 00:30:08,597
I mean, whether she knew them
or didn't know them
523
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,225
or maybe even didn't agree with them,
she would still help them.
524
00:30:13,727 --> 00:30:15,771
She was incredibly empathetic
525
00:30:15,854 --> 00:30:19,316
and she was interested
in every person individually.
526
00:30:20,067 --> 00:30:23,195
She never cared
about money or business at all.
527
00:30:23,987 --> 00:30:25,531
I mean, he would go around saying
528
00:30:25,614 --> 00:30:29,117
"I'm going to be
the richest man in the world."
529
00:30:29,576 --> 00:30:31,829
And I think,
well, it's like somebody says
530
00:30:31,912 --> 00:30:34,581
"I play music,
and I'm going to be Mozart."
531
00:30:34,665 --> 00:30:38,335
I don't know.
How does anyone know...?
532
00:30:39,086 --> 00:30:41,380
How does anyone know, you know?
533
00:30:41,463 --> 00:30:45,759
So that was okay.
I don't really care about that.
534
00:30:47,136 --> 00:30:51,265
I would say that Susie led Warren
toward changing his political views.
535
00:30:51,348 --> 00:30:53,058
He grew up as a young Republican.
536
00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:56,186
His father was
a Republican congressman.
537
00:30:56,353 --> 00:30:59,356
But Susie saw things
in different ways.
538
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,150
She was the catalyst.
539
00:31:01,233 --> 00:31:04,653
Freedom, freedom, freedom.
540
00:31:04,737 --> 00:31:06,780
- Louder! Louder!
- Freedom.
541
00:31:06,864 --> 00:31:08,782
- Louder!
- Freedom.
542
00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:11,118
- What do we want now?
- Freedom.
543
00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:16,165
When the children were growing up,
I was very involved in civil rights.
544
00:31:16,332 --> 00:31:18,000
I was immersed in it.
545
00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:21,086
And I think that's what made Warren
a Democrat.
546
00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:25,091
He would go with me to hear speakers.
547
00:31:26,133 --> 00:31:29,053
I remember that speech
that Martin Luther King gave.
548
00:31:29,136 --> 00:31:31,138
That was one
of the most inspiring speeches
549
00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:33,057
I've ever heard.
550
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:34,850
I come to say to you this...
551
00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:36,477
Took me right out of my seat.
552
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,896
My wife was with me.
We both had the same experience.
553
00:31:38,979 --> 00:31:40,147
It will not be long...
554
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:42,566
It was interesting, he...
In that speech, he talked about
555
00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:45,277
"truth forever on the scaffold
556
00:31:45,361 --> 00:31:50,074
wrong forever on the throne,
but that scaffold sways the future."
557
00:31:50,574 --> 00:31:52,660
Well, he was going to be dead
in six months
558
00:31:52,868 --> 00:31:55,079
but that scaffold did sway
the future.
559
00:31:56,956 --> 00:31:58,749
My wife was more active than I was
560
00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:00,877
but I was a hundred percent
with her mentally
561
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,339
and I was just working
a little more on my own investments.
562
00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:08,217
But it didn't make a difference what
we were going to do with the money
563
00:32:08,301 --> 00:32:09,469
after we made it.
564
00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:11,554
I thought I would pile it up
over the years
565
00:32:12,013 --> 00:32:13,389
then she would unpile it
566
00:32:13,473 --> 00:32:17,643
in terms of running
one very large foundation.
567
00:32:17,894 --> 00:32:21,064
And I was particularly good
at compounding money
568
00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:24,359
and, therefore,
society would benefit by waiting.
569
00:32:27,987 --> 00:32:31,449
I was genetically blessed
with a certain wiring
570
00:32:31,532 --> 00:32:34,285
that's very useful
in a highly-developed market system
571
00:32:34,369 --> 00:32:35,954
where there's lots of chips
on the table
572
00:32:36,037 --> 00:32:39,082
and, you know,
I happen to be good at that game.
573
00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:43,544
Ted Williams wrote a book
called The Science of Hitting
574
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:46,297
and in it he had
a picture of himself at bat
575
00:32:46,381 --> 00:32:50,927
and the strike zone broken
into, I think, 77 squares.
576
00:32:51,302 --> 00:32:53,054
And he said,
if he waited for the pitch
577
00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:56,015
that was really in his sweet spot,
he would bat .400
578
00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:58,852
and if he had to swing at something
on the lower corner
579
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:01,271
he would probably bat .235.
580
00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:04,691
And in investing,
I'm in a no-called-strike business
581
00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:06,651
which is the best business
you can be in.
582
00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:09,070
I can look
at a thousand different companies
583
00:33:09,154 --> 00:33:11,239
and I don't have to be right
on every one of them
584
00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:12,907
or even 50 of them.
585
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,327
So I can pick the ball I want to hit.
586
00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:20,623
And the trick in investing
is just to sit there
587
00:33:20,707 --> 00:33:22,876
and watch pitch after pitch go by
588
00:33:22,959 --> 00:33:24,836
and wait for the one
right in your sweet spot.
589
00:33:24,919 --> 00:33:27,672
And the people that are yelling
"Swing, you bum," ignore them.
590
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,425
There's a temptation
591
00:33:30,508 --> 00:33:33,720
for people to act
far too frequently in stocks
592
00:33:33,803 --> 00:33:35,430
simply because they're so liquid.
593
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:39,184
Over the years,
you develop a lot of filters.
594
00:33:39,392 --> 00:33:42,020
And I do know
what I call my circle of competence
595
00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:44,397
so I stay within that circle
596
00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:48,235
and I don't worry about things
that are outside that circle.
597
00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:50,320
Defining what your game is
598
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:54,157
where you're going to have an edge,
is enormously important.
599
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,918
I bought the first shares
of Berkshire in 1962
600
00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:07,254
and it was
a northern textile business
601
00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:10,841
destined to become extinct
eventually, and it was
602
00:34:10,924 --> 00:34:13,969
a statistically cheap stock
in a terrible business.
603
00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:17,848
Berkshire Hathaway
was closing mills
604
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:21,435
and, as they closed mills,
it would free up some capital
605
00:34:21,685 --> 00:34:23,770
and then
they would repurchase shares.
606
00:34:23,854 --> 00:34:25,480
So I bought some stock with the idea
607
00:34:25,564 --> 00:34:28,233
that there would be
another tender offer at some point
608
00:34:28,317 --> 00:34:31,153
and we would sell the stock
at a modest profit.
609
00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:34,907
And at one point,
the management asked me
610
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:36,742
at what price
we would tender our stock.
611
00:34:36,825 --> 00:34:39,161
And I said $11 and 50 cents.
612
00:34:41,663 --> 00:34:44,708
And the tender offer came out
a few months later
613
00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:49,004
and it was at $11 and three-eights
614
00:34:49,088 --> 00:34:50,881
which was
an eighth of a point cheaper.
615
00:34:51,924 --> 00:34:55,511
And that made me very mad,
so I just started buying more stock.
616
00:34:56,512 --> 00:34:59,139
I just felt
that I'd been double-crossed
617
00:34:59,223 --> 00:35:02,726
by the management,
and, in May of 1965
618
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:05,104
I bought enough
so we controlled the company
619
00:35:05,479 --> 00:35:07,064
and we changed the management.
620
00:35:13,779 --> 00:35:15,614
That was a pretty silly way
to behave
621
00:35:15,698 --> 00:35:18,784
as Warren has recounted
in retrospect.
622
00:35:19,869 --> 00:35:21,537
One of the reasons
Warren's successful
623
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:24,415
is he's brutal in appraising
his own past.
624
00:35:24,498 --> 00:35:28,919
He wants to identify misthinkings
and avoid them in the future
625
00:35:29,545 --> 00:35:32,298
but it was an accident
that he chose Berkshire Hathaway.
626
00:35:32,465 --> 00:35:35,259
If the chairman hadn't tried
to cheat him out of an eighth
627
00:35:35,426 --> 00:35:38,929
there wouldn't have been any
Buffett-Berkshire Hathaway history.
628
00:35:42,099 --> 00:35:43,517
If you're emotional
about investment
629
00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:44,935
you're not going to do well.
630
00:35:45,353 --> 00:35:47,104
You may have all these feelings
about the stock
631
00:35:47,188 --> 00:35:49,148
the stock has no feelings
about you.
632
00:35:50,191 --> 00:35:51,901
Looking back, it's interesting,
that tender offer
633
00:35:51,984 --> 00:35:54,111
I didn't realize it, but it happened
634
00:35:54,195 --> 00:35:56,572
about five days
after my dad had died
635
00:35:56,656 --> 00:35:59,575
and whether that had
affected me or not, I don't know.
636
00:36:03,788 --> 00:36:06,832
Do you remember your last
conversation with your father?
637
00:36:06,958 --> 00:36:09,252
Yeah, but I don't want
to talk about it.
638
00:36:16,509 --> 00:36:19,470
I think it just sobered him
and hurt him.
639
00:36:20,346 --> 00:36:21,681
But...
640
00:36:24,058 --> 00:36:25,643
Warren soldiers on.
641
00:36:29,021 --> 00:36:32,108
Both Warren and I
could look at our fathers
642
00:36:32,191 --> 00:36:34,360
and see what they did right
and what they did wrong.
643
00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:36,821
Warren's father was
644
00:36:36,904 --> 00:36:39,991
a real old-fashioned
right wing ideologue.
645
00:36:41,117 --> 00:36:43,202
And his father
was so intense about it
646
00:36:43,578 --> 00:36:46,831
that Warren just decided
that it was mistake.
647
00:36:46,915 --> 00:36:50,043
It cabbaged up your head
to be that much of an ideologue.
648
00:36:50,126 --> 00:36:52,962
So he loved his father,
but he didn't want to become
649
00:36:53,046 --> 00:36:56,466
that much of a true believer
in anything.
650
00:36:59,093 --> 00:37:04,307
My politics became more overt
after my dad died.
651
00:37:06,017 --> 00:37:07,894
Civil rights changed my views.
652
00:37:08,645 --> 00:37:10,021
You know, in 1776
653
00:37:10,105 --> 00:37:11,940
Thomas Jefferson wrote
"all men are created equal"
654
00:37:12,023 --> 00:37:13,691
and then
when they wrote the constitution
655
00:37:13,775 --> 00:37:15,735
they, all of a sudden,
decided that no
656
00:37:15,819 --> 00:37:17,779
it was just three-fifths of a person
if you were black.
657
00:37:17,862 --> 00:37:19,364
I mean that struck me
as kind of crazy.
658
00:37:22,075 --> 00:37:25,704
I was talking to him one day
about some racial issue
659
00:37:25,954 --> 00:37:30,125
and he said to me,
"Wait till women discover
660
00:37:30,208 --> 00:37:32,669
they're the slaves of the world."
661
00:37:33,962 --> 00:37:37,799
Now how many men
were cognizant of that?
662
00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:39,593
And even women then?
663
00:37:41,970 --> 00:37:44,139
The initial example
is really my mother.
664
00:37:44,306 --> 00:37:46,266
She came from a generation
665
00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:48,727
where the main function
of the wife was
666
00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:51,104
to help her husband in the job
667
00:37:51,521 --> 00:37:55,692
And my sisters
are fully as smart as I am
668
00:37:55,776 --> 00:37:57,861
they got better personalities
than I have
669
00:37:57,944 --> 00:38:00,322
but they got the message
a million different ways
670
00:38:00,405 --> 00:38:02,991
that their future was limited.
671
00:38:03,075 --> 00:38:06,203
And I got the message
that the sky is the limit and...
672
00:38:06,286 --> 00:38:09,456
It wasn't due to a lack of love
or anything of the sort, it just...
673
00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:10,874
It was the culture.
674
00:38:12,793 --> 00:38:14,419
On the other hand, you can look
at the flip side and say
675
00:38:14,503 --> 00:38:16,630
it's quite encouraging
because if you look
676
00:38:16,713 --> 00:38:19,758
at what this country accomplished
only using half of its talent
677
00:38:19,841 --> 00:38:21,385
you know, just think
of the potential for the future.
678
00:38:21,468 --> 00:38:23,679
I'm enormously bullish on America
over the future
679
00:38:23,762 --> 00:38:27,683
and part of the reason is that we,
by some rather stupid decisions
680
00:38:27,766 --> 00:38:30,519
essentially put half our talent
on the sidelines.
681
00:38:32,229 --> 00:38:33,272
Warren is probably
682
00:38:33,355 --> 00:38:35,858
the most rational person
I have ever met.
683
00:38:35,941 --> 00:38:39,194
Charlie Munger would be
a close rival.
684
00:38:39,570 --> 00:38:44,533
And Charlie became a man
that Warren depended on heavily.
685
00:38:45,117 --> 00:38:47,786
And I think his first experiences
686
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:51,457
in the discarded cigar butt era
convinced him
687
00:38:51,540 --> 00:38:54,752
that it was not exactly
where he wanted to be.
688
00:38:55,419 --> 00:38:57,546
He made so much money for so long
689
00:38:57,629 --> 00:38:59,840
doing what he'd been taught
by Ben Graham
690
00:38:59,923 --> 00:39:02,301
which he'd buy these
very cheap stocks.
691
00:39:02,384 --> 00:39:03,844
If they were cheap enough,
he didn't care
692
00:39:03,927 --> 00:39:05,929
if it was a lousy company
and a lousy management.
693
00:39:06,013 --> 00:39:07,723
He knew he was going
to make money anyway
694
00:39:07,806 --> 00:39:09,558
just because of the cheapness.
695
00:39:10,643 --> 00:39:14,647
Charlie Munger has had
a big impact on me in moving me
696
00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:18,192
toward looking for wonderful
companies at fair prices
697
00:39:18,275 --> 00:39:20,861
rather than fair companies
at wonderful prices.
698
00:39:21,111 --> 00:39:22,613
And that was enormously important
699
00:39:22,696 --> 00:39:25,115
because it enabled Berkshire
to scale up in a way
700
00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:28,327
that would have been impossible
to do otherwise.
701
00:39:29,954 --> 00:39:32,081
- Yep?
- What are the key indicators
702
00:39:32,164 --> 00:39:35,709
you look for within companies
before making an investment?
703
00:39:36,085 --> 00:39:38,921
Well, I look for something
that does give them a moat around it.
704
00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:44,677
We have a company called
See's Candies out on the West Coast
705
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,887
See's Candies boxed chocolates.
706
00:39:47,763 --> 00:39:50,307
If you give a box of See's chocolates
707
00:39:50,391 --> 00:39:54,228
to your girlfriend on the first date
and she kisses you
708
00:39:55,563 --> 00:39:56,605
we own you, you know?
709
00:39:56,689 --> 00:39:58,566
I mean, we can raise
the price tomorrow.
710
00:39:58,649 --> 00:40:00,067
I mean, you'll buy the same box.
711
00:40:00,151 --> 00:40:01,652
You're not going to
fool around with success.
712
00:40:01,736 --> 00:40:04,572
So the key there is the response.
713
00:40:05,156 --> 00:40:07,575
You do not want to go home
on Valentine's Day
714
00:40:07,658 --> 00:40:10,077
and say to your wife
or your sweetheart...
715
00:40:10,536 --> 00:40:12,705
Preferably, they're the same person.
716
00:40:12,788 --> 00:40:15,249
You don't say,
"Here, honey, I took the low bid."
717
00:40:15,333 --> 00:40:16,667
It doesn't work.
718
00:40:16,792 --> 00:40:19,921
Price is...
To a degree, it's immaterial.
719
00:40:20,004 --> 00:40:22,965
If you've got an economic castle,
people are going to come
720
00:40:23,049 --> 00:40:24,967
and want to take that castle
away from you.
721
00:40:25,051 --> 00:40:26,552
And you better have a strong moat.
722
00:40:26,636 --> 00:40:29,430
You better have a knight in a castle
that knows what he's doing.
723
00:40:30,723 --> 00:40:33,559
You're not buying an asset.
You're buying a name.
724
00:40:33,643 --> 00:40:37,522
You're buying a brand.
You're buying a real franchise here.
725
00:40:38,272 --> 00:40:42,610
And Charlie was more responsible
for that than anybody.
726
00:40:45,196 --> 00:40:48,491
We were mental partners
right from the moment we met.
727
00:40:49,409 --> 00:40:51,160
I want to know, going back 50 years
728
00:40:51,244 --> 00:40:53,621
what it was like
when you first met Warren?
729
00:40:53,705 --> 00:40:55,540
Well, I thought he was a prodigy.
730
00:40:56,541 --> 00:40:58,960
And I got a lot of criticism.
My wife said
731
00:40:59,043 --> 00:41:01,254
"Why are you paying
such enormous respect
732
00:41:01,337 --> 00:41:04,966
to that young man with a crew cut
who won't eat vegetables?"
733
00:41:07,343 --> 00:41:09,053
He's ungodly smart.
734
00:41:09,137 --> 00:41:11,598
He's got
a much broader intellect than I do.
735
00:41:12,098 --> 00:41:14,601
And he's magnificent at being able
736
00:41:14,684 --> 00:41:18,688
to condense important ideas
into just a very few words.
737
00:41:18,813 --> 00:41:23,109
If you're not interested
in the economic scene right now
738
00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:25,236
you're mentally dead.
739
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,905
Charlie has no tact.
740
00:41:26,988 --> 00:41:29,032
All right, let's talk
a little bit about bankers.
741
00:41:29,115 --> 00:41:32,160
Charlie, on Friday, compared them
to heroin addicts.
742
00:41:32,243 --> 00:41:35,830
Yeah, well, that's colorful Charlie,
but I would not have chosen that.
743
00:41:36,247 --> 00:41:39,417
I once wrote of him
that when they handed out humility
744
00:41:39,501 --> 00:41:41,378
he didn't get his fair share.
745
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,882
The ideal way to run headquarters
is to have one man
746
00:41:46,132 --> 00:41:50,095
preferably over 80,
sitting in an office by himself.
747
00:41:51,054 --> 00:41:53,431
Anything else is pure frippery.
748
00:41:54,307 --> 00:41:56,226
He's always honest
in what he tells me
749
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:58,270
so I listen to him.
750
00:42:00,230 --> 00:42:01,857
We never had an argument.
751
00:42:02,732 --> 00:42:04,067
We just...
752
00:42:05,819 --> 00:42:07,863
We just kind of roll with it easily.
753
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,493
Suppose Warren doesn't want to do
something that I would've done.
754
00:42:13,869 --> 00:42:17,539
And suppose that happens four times
over 40 years or something.
755
00:42:18,081 --> 00:42:19,875
What the hell difference
does it make to me?
756
00:42:21,293 --> 00:42:23,587
Net the record
is working out is fine.
757
00:42:28,216 --> 00:42:29,509
Both of us know
758
00:42:29,593 --> 00:42:32,930
that we've done better
by having ethics.
759
00:42:33,305 --> 00:42:36,016
Warren's not interested
in making money by cheating people.
760
00:42:39,186 --> 00:42:42,981
Warren's opinions
of Wall Street investment bankers
761
00:42:43,065 --> 00:42:46,485
would not endear him
to their mothers.
762
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:48,403
He feels that they're
763
00:42:48,487 --> 00:42:51,573
for the most part,
not out for their clients.
764
00:42:51,657 --> 00:42:54,827
They're out
for their own business interests.
765
00:42:56,370 --> 00:42:59,164
In the late 1960s,
there were just a flood
766
00:42:59,248 --> 00:43:03,127
of accounting shenanigans
and mergers built
767
00:43:03,210 --> 00:43:06,547
upon false accounting
and misleading people.
768
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:09,842
It was a time
when a lot of charlatans
769
00:43:09,925 --> 00:43:13,137
were prevailing in Wall Street,
were being applauded by Wall Street.
770
00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:15,389
And I understood
what the game was about
771
00:43:15,472 --> 00:43:17,016
but I didn't want to play in it.
772
00:43:17,182 --> 00:43:21,061
So I closed down the partnership
at the end of 1969
773
00:43:21,145 --> 00:43:24,648
and I took on the title of Chairman
for Berkshire Hathaway.
774
00:43:27,943 --> 00:43:29,778
Well, I think the modern Berkshire
775
00:43:29,862 --> 00:43:32,198
is pretty much
all a reflection of Warren.
776
00:43:34,742 --> 00:43:38,662
I have constructed
a business that fits me.
777
00:43:39,872 --> 00:43:42,583
It's kind of crazy
to spend your life painting
778
00:43:42,666 --> 00:43:44,835
if you're painting a subject
you don't want to look at.
779
00:43:45,419 --> 00:43:48,047
I've gotten to paint
my own painting in business
780
00:43:48,130 --> 00:43:50,341
on an unlimited canvas in a way.
781
00:43:52,176 --> 00:43:54,136
It's a different sort of place.
782
00:43:55,554 --> 00:43:58,683
I work with a great group of people
that make my life very easy
783
00:43:58,766 --> 00:44:00,518
and that take good care of me.
784
00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:06,565
We have 25 people in the office
785
00:44:06,649 --> 00:44:10,111
and if you go back,
it's the exact same 25
786
00:44:10,236 --> 00:44:11,862
the exact same ones.
787
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,283
We don't have any committees
at Berkshire.
788
00:44:15,575 --> 00:44:17,243
We don't have
a Public Relations Department.
789
00:44:17,326 --> 00:44:19,745
We don't have Investor Relations.
We don't have a General Council.
790
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:21,622
We don't have
a Human Relations Department.
791
00:44:21,706 --> 00:44:23,082
We just don't go for anything
792
00:44:23,166 --> 00:44:25,793
that people do
just as a matter of form.
793
00:44:27,003 --> 00:44:29,046
It's exactly the life I like.
794
00:44:29,547 --> 00:44:33,634
And it's not work to me.
It's just a form of play, basically.
795
00:44:43,102 --> 00:44:44,645
Oh, I like things quiet.
796
00:44:45,271 --> 00:44:46,856
I shut the door actually
at the office
797
00:44:46,939 --> 00:44:49,233
because I don't want to hear
anybody talking outside.
798
00:44:49,317 --> 00:44:52,862
distinctively changed his views,
and the belt-tightening proposal...
799
00:44:52,946 --> 00:44:56,366
And I still probably spend
five or six hours a day reading.
800
00:44:56,449 --> 00:44:59,410
To look at what's trending today,
our quick round up of what has...
801
00:44:59,494 --> 00:45:01,788
Well, what's amazing
is the stuff he remembers.
802
00:45:03,456 --> 00:45:04,874
He's like a little computer,
you know?
803
00:45:04,958 --> 00:45:06,918
I keep thinking the hard drive
will run out of space
804
00:45:07,001 --> 00:45:08,336
but it doesn't.
805
00:45:10,505 --> 00:45:12,257
He's one of the smartest people
we know.
806
00:45:12,715 --> 00:45:14,259
So I was at a couple
of the family dinners
807
00:45:14,342 --> 00:45:16,803
at the Gates house
where Mary, Bill's mom, was trying
808
00:45:16,886 --> 00:45:20,223
to convince him to come out
to the family place at Hood Canal
809
00:45:20,348 --> 00:45:22,350
to meet Warren Buffett,
and he was resisting
810
00:45:22,434 --> 00:45:24,144
because he was really busy
with Microsoft.
811
00:45:24,227 --> 00:45:27,772
And finally he said,
"Mom, okay, I'll come for lunch."
812
00:45:29,649 --> 00:45:32,694
So the two of us flew out there
somewhat reluctantly
813
00:45:32,777 --> 00:45:34,612
because, you know,
buying and selling stocks
814
00:45:34,696 --> 00:45:38,450
which is how I thought of Warren,
wasn't of particular interest to me
815
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:40,618
and didn't seem like value added.
816
00:45:40,702 --> 00:45:42,996
It turned out
that was completely wrong.
817
00:45:43,204 --> 00:45:46,374
We knew that day
that we'd be very close friends.
818
00:45:46,625 --> 00:45:49,502
In fact, we just couldn't get enough
of each other.
819
00:45:50,837 --> 00:45:52,297
Shortly after I met Bill Gates
820
00:45:52,380 --> 00:45:55,425
Bill's dad asked each of us
to write down on a piece of paper
821
00:45:55,508 --> 00:45:59,054
one word that would best describe
what had helped us the most.
822
00:45:59,137 --> 00:46:01,306
Bill and I,
without any collaboration at all
823
00:46:01,389 --> 00:46:02,933
each wrote the word "focus".
824
00:46:05,143 --> 00:46:09,815
Well, focus has always been
a strong part of my personality.
825
00:46:09,898 --> 00:46:12,317
If I get interested in something,
I get really interested.
826
00:46:12,776 --> 00:46:13,985
If I get interested in a new subject
827
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:15,779
I want to read about it,
I want to talk about it
828
00:46:15,862 --> 00:46:19,032
and I want to meet people
that are involved in it.
829
00:46:20,283 --> 00:46:22,244
We both love to work hard.
830
00:46:22,327 --> 00:46:25,122
You know neither of us like
frivolous things.
831
00:46:25,205 --> 00:46:27,416
You know he doesn't know much
about cooking or art
832
00:46:27,499 --> 00:46:30,669
or a huge range of things.
833
00:46:31,420 --> 00:46:32,671
I can't tell you the color
834
00:46:32,754 --> 00:46:36,008
of the walls in my bedroom
or my living room.
835
00:46:36,758 --> 00:46:39,720
I don't have a mind that relates
to the physical universe well.
836
00:46:39,803 --> 00:46:41,388
Warren, checking the DOW.
837
00:46:41,471 --> 00:46:45,642
But the business universe,
I think I understand reasonably well.
838
00:46:46,810 --> 00:46:50,439
Warren's ability to size up
people and businesses
839
00:46:50,564 --> 00:46:52,566
it's a pretty magical thing.
840
00:46:52,941 --> 00:46:55,360
He is the best out of
anybody we know.
841
00:46:55,444 --> 00:46:59,364
We should all try to be
20 percent as good at that.
842
00:47:03,869 --> 00:47:07,206
I like to sit and think,
and I spend a lot of time doing that.
843
00:47:07,289 --> 00:47:09,625
And, sometimes,
it's pretty unproductive
844
00:47:09,708 --> 00:47:13,879
but I find it enjoyable
to think about...
845
00:47:14,505 --> 00:47:16,882
particularly about business
or investment problems.
846
00:47:16,965 --> 00:47:19,843
They're easy. It's the human problems
that are the tough ones.
847
00:47:20,219 --> 00:47:22,012
Sometimes, there aren't any
good answers with human problems.
848
00:47:22,096 --> 00:47:24,723
There's almost always
a good answer with money.
849
00:47:38,153 --> 00:47:40,614
He was sort of a genius.
850
00:47:41,323 --> 00:47:47,997
I think sometimes geniuses are,
by default, lonely and isolated.
851
00:47:51,333 --> 00:47:54,044
He was not really well-adjusted.
852
00:47:54,962 --> 00:47:59,467
He was just this funny,
I mean, humorous guy
853
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,347
who maybe had a moat around him,
because he was afraid
854
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:08,768
and he didn't know anyone
that he wanted to let in.
855
00:48:11,312 --> 00:48:12,730
And to this day...
856
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:15,691
I mean, I don't know...
857
00:48:16,859 --> 00:48:21,322
Well, nobody knows him like I do,
and probably any wife would say that.
858
00:48:21,989 --> 00:48:23,324
But...
859
00:48:27,662 --> 00:48:29,372
He's a loner, in a sense.
860
00:48:30,414 --> 00:48:33,334
And it's difficult to connect
on an emotional level
861
00:48:33,417 --> 00:48:38,297
because, I think, that that's
not his basic mode of operation.
862
00:48:40,007 --> 00:48:43,553
He was there physically.
863
00:48:44,262 --> 00:48:47,432
But he was upstairs reading
all the time.
864
00:48:49,892 --> 00:48:52,478
I always told my mother
we have to talk in sound bytes.
865
00:48:53,521 --> 00:48:54,647
I learned that early on
866
00:48:54,731 --> 00:48:58,067
that if you start, you know,
going into some long thing
867
00:48:58,151 --> 00:48:59,736
unless you've explained to him
ahead of time
868
00:48:59,819 --> 00:49:02,989
that it's going to be a long thing
and you need him to hang in there
869
00:49:03,448 --> 00:49:04,782
you lose him.
870
00:49:05,283 --> 00:49:07,452
You lose him
to whatever giant thought
871
00:49:07,535 --> 00:49:09,454
he has in his head at the time
872
00:49:09,787 --> 00:49:12,123
that he was probably thinking about
before you came in
873
00:49:12,207 --> 00:49:14,125
and really wants to get back to.
874
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:20,673
He's not like the rest of us.
875
00:49:21,090 --> 00:49:23,843
I don't think my dad
ever took anybody for granted.
876
00:49:23,968 --> 00:49:27,263
But you are a little bit blind,
I think, sometimes
877
00:49:27,347 --> 00:49:30,308
to what other people might be doing
behind the scenes.
878
00:49:30,391 --> 00:49:33,019
And my dad's gotten
a little bit of a pass.
879
00:49:35,605 --> 00:49:39,734
Warren can't find the light switch,
and it's probably my fault.
880
00:49:40,068 --> 00:49:43,655
One time years ago,
when the kids were little
881
00:49:43,738 --> 00:49:45,865
I was feeling really sick.
I had the flu.
882
00:49:45,949 --> 00:49:48,159
So I lay down on the bed,
and I said to Warren
883
00:49:48,243 --> 00:49:51,288
"Will you get me a pan or something
from the kitchen?
884
00:49:51,371 --> 00:49:54,416
I may not get to the bathroom,
I feel so sick."
885
00:49:54,499 --> 00:49:55,709
He said okay.
886
00:49:55,792 --> 00:49:58,336
So he trotted down to the kitchen
887
00:49:58,420 --> 00:50:02,048
and I hear
this bang, bip, boom, bang.
888
00:50:02,716 --> 00:50:06,011
And he comes up,
and he brings me a colander.
889
00:50:06,094 --> 00:50:10,474
And I looked at it, and I said,
"Look, honey, this has holes in it."
890
00:50:10,557 --> 00:50:12,309
"Oh, oh, okay."
891
00:50:12,392 --> 00:50:14,019
So he ran down.
892
00:50:14,311 --> 00:50:17,606
All this banging and everything,
and he comes up.
893
00:50:17,981 --> 00:50:21,193
And he puts the colander
on a cookie sheet.
894
00:50:26,323 --> 00:50:28,492
Physical proximity to Warren
895
00:50:28,575 --> 00:50:31,119
doesn't always mean
that he's there with you.
896
00:50:33,955 --> 00:50:36,291
He's so cerebral, you see?
897
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,172
That's why I learned
to have my own life.
898
00:50:42,256 --> 00:50:45,175
We were two parallel lines and...
899
00:50:45,259 --> 00:50:49,388
But very connected
when he was open to connecting.
900
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,268
I did make a joke at one point.
901
00:50:54,351 --> 00:50:56,520
I said, "You know,
we could make a tape
902
00:50:56,603 --> 00:50:59,231
of Mom yelling, you know,
"Bye, Warren, I'll be back later!"
903
00:50:59,314 --> 00:51:00,732
And then have the door slam.
904
00:51:00,816 --> 00:51:02,818
And you would just think
she was here.
905
00:51:03,735 --> 00:51:06,447
I don't think he knew
what she was doing most of the time.
906
00:51:09,241 --> 00:51:12,536
Once Howie and I were both gone,
as we've gotten older
907
00:51:12,661 --> 00:51:14,496
she started to see
the writing on the wall here
908
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:17,041
and you know just started
trying to figure out
909
00:51:17,124 --> 00:51:19,418
how she could, at least, have
some more
910
00:51:19,501 --> 00:51:21,795
as she called it,
you know, a room of her own.
911
00:51:28,886 --> 00:51:30,596
The worst mistakes involve
912
00:51:31,013 --> 00:51:34,391
not understanding other people
as well as you might.
913
00:51:44,652 --> 00:51:47,321
Well, she left Omaha in 1977
914
00:51:47,404 --> 00:51:51,200
and there really isn't much
to say about that.
915
00:52:00,209 --> 00:52:01,961
It was devastating for him.
916
00:52:02,169 --> 00:52:04,088
And I came home
917
00:52:04,422 --> 00:52:09,135
because I can't say
I was mad at her exactly.
918
00:52:09,427 --> 00:52:12,305
But I kept thinking,
"How can you leave him?
919
00:52:12,388 --> 00:52:16,058
He's so...
He can't function by himself."
920
00:52:16,934 --> 00:52:21,397
So my mother, she had asked
a bunch of her friends
921
00:52:21,522 --> 00:52:23,232
to sort of look in on him.
922
00:52:23,316 --> 00:52:24,942
And Astrid was one of them.
923
00:52:25,651 --> 00:52:27,445
So I called Astrid, and I said
924
00:52:27,528 --> 00:52:30,615
"Astrid, will you take Warren...
Make him some soup?
925
00:52:30,823 --> 00:52:32,533
Go over there and look after him
926
00:52:32,617 --> 00:52:35,536
because he's not going to make it."
927
00:52:35,953 --> 00:52:38,414
And it took him a while
to figure it out
928
00:52:38,498 --> 00:52:39,540
but he figured it out.
929
00:52:39,624 --> 00:52:41,834
I said, "I'm not leaving you
930
00:52:41,918 --> 00:52:45,379
because I'll be wherever you want me
when you want me."
931
00:52:47,715 --> 00:52:49,550
My mom moved to San Francisco.
932
00:52:49,717 --> 00:52:51,886
And, I think, one of the reasons
it was important for her
933
00:52:51,969 --> 00:52:54,722
to leave Omaha
was because she just felt
934
00:52:54,806 --> 00:52:57,016
like she was kind of trapped
in this environment
935
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:59,143
that everybody knew who she was
936
00:52:59,310 --> 00:53:02,397
that she, you know,
couldn't have her own identity.
937
00:53:03,106 --> 00:53:05,942
He knew that there was
something she needed to do
938
00:53:06,067 --> 00:53:08,152
and that she really recognized
939
00:53:08,236 --> 00:53:11,489
that the money gave us all and her
940
00:53:11,573 --> 00:53:14,909
a choice in a lot of ways
that a lot of people didn't have.
941
00:53:15,577 --> 00:53:19,330
There was a time
Warren was getting criticized that...
942
00:53:19,414 --> 00:53:23,042
Here was this very, very rich man
who was getting richer every year
943
00:53:23,209 --> 00:53:25,420
and really wasn't giving
a lot of money away.
944
00:53:25,503 --> 00:53:28,548
And it was terrific criticism
by some people
945
00:53:28,923 --> 00:53:30,758
which Warren
never said anything about.
946
00:53:32,218 --> 00:53:34,387
The biggest thing
in making money is time.
947
00:53:34,471 --> 00:53:36,222
You don't have to be
particularly smart.
948
00:53:36,306 --> 00:53:38,058
You just have to be patient.
949
00:53:38,850 --> 00:53:40,852
Susie didn't want to wait
as much as I did
950
00:53:40,935 --> 00:53:44,230
but she never quite appreciated
compounding like I did.
951
00:53:45,315 --> 00:53:47,776
That is a disagreement we have.
952
00:53:47,859 --> 00:53:49,861
I run a foundation now.
953
00:53:50,654 --> 00:53:53,865
I think we should be giving
more money away.
954
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:59,371
But I understand why we don't,
because it's business.
955
00:53:59,829 --> 00:54:01,665
To me the crux of it is
956
00:54:01,748 --> 00:54:04,209
that it wasn't the money itself.
957
00:54:04,334 --> 00:54:06,211
You can see that
in the way he lives.
958
00:54:06,294 --> 00:54:09,631
I mean, he doesn't buy huge paintings
959
00:54:09,714 --> 00:54:12,259
or build big houses
or anything like that.
960
00:54:12,509 --> 00:54:17,681
It's all mental with him,
and the money is the scorecard.
961
00:54:18,807 --> 00:54:21,101
And he used to say to me
962
00:54:21,184 --> 00:54:26,189
"Everybody can read what I read,
it's a level playing field."
963
00:54:26,273 --> 00:54:28,984
And he loves that,
because he's competitive.
964
00:54:29,401 --> 00:54:32,320
And he's sitting there
all by himself in his office
965
00:54:32,404 --> 00:54:36,074
reading these things
that everybody else can read
966
00:54:36,158 --> 00:54:39,077
but he loves
the idea that he's going to win.
967
00:54:43,206 --> 00:54:44,791
I'll tell you how you do it.
968
00:54:45,751 --> 00:54:50,047
Have you ever seen a juggler
juggle 25 milk bottles?
969
00:54:50,464 --> 00:54:52,299
How did he ever get to do that?
970
00:54:52,966 --> 00:54:54,551
The answer is
he started with one bottle
971
00:54:54,635 --> 00:54:56,720
then two, then three
and just kept doing it
972
00:54:56,803 --> 00:54:58,722
and, pretty soon, he was at 25.
973
00:54:58,805 --> 00:55:00,390
And that's the way we did it.
974
00:55:00,682 --> 00:55:03,185
So, basically,
we started out with cash
975
00:55:03,727 --> 00:55:05,979
and ended up
buying a bunch of businesses
976
00:55:06,063 --> 00:55:07,815
including insurance companies.
977
00:55:09,066 --> 00:55:12,611
Insurance is, in itself,
a profitable business
978
00:55:12,694 --> 00:55:16,865
but it has the additional advantage
of creating something
979
00:55:16,949 --> 00:55:18,367
that's called float.
980
00:55:18,617 --> 00:55:22,162
And float is the money
that hangs around Berkshire
981
00:55:22,246 --> 00:55:24,540
while a claim is waiting to be paid.
982
00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:29,128
And Warren turned out
to have an extraordinary ability
983
00:55:29,211 --> 00:55:31,922
to use the money
thrown off by the float
984
00:55:32,006 --> 00:55:35,551
to buy companies
that fed the growth of Berkshire.
985
00:55:38,721 --> 00:55:41,891
In 1983, Mrs. B cashed in
on her business
986
00:55:41,974 --> 00:55:45,185
by selling control for $55 million
987
00:55:45,269 --> 00:55:48,022
to a company owned
by investor Warren Buffett.
988
00:55:54,195 --> 00:55:57,948
Warren was quite an expert
about newspapers.
989
00:55:58,282 --> 00:56:01,285
He got interested in the Post,
because he recognized it
990
00:56:01,368 --> 00:56:04,622
as a greatly undervalued company.
991
00:56:05,956 --> 00:56:07,583
He had to write me a letter.
992
00:56:07,666 --> 00:56:10,586
"Dear Ms. Graham, I've just bought
five percent of your company
993
00:56:10,669 --> 00:56:14,215
and I mean you no harm,
and I think it's a great company.
994
00:56:14,298 --> 00:56:16,133
I know it's Graham owned
and Graham run
995
00:56:16,217 --> 00:56:17,677
and that's fine with me."
996
00:56:18,135 --> 00:56:21,347
And I thought,
"Whoa, this guy's really terrific."
997
00:56:22,598 --> 00:56:26,644
He used to come to board meetings
with about 20 annual reports.
998
00:56:26,727 --> 00:56:29,146
And he would take me
through these annual reports.
999
00:56:29,230 --> 00:56:30,731
I mean, it was like going
to business school
1000
00:56:30,815 --> 00:56:32,233
with Warren Buffett.
1001
00:56:33,192 --> 00:56:37,071
Kay Graham did introduce Warren
to the world of Washington
1002
00:56:37,154 --> 00:56:40,783
entirely different group
than he had ever dealt with before.
1003
00:56:42,451 --> 00:56:45,788
It was clear that working with Kay
1004
00:56:45,872 --> 00:56:48,291
gave him a different kind
of confidence.
1005
00:56:48,374 --> 00:56:50,084
And he was the star.
1006
00:56:51,586 --> 00:56:54,297
Everyone wants to hear
what Warren Buffett has to say.
1007
00:56:54,380 --> 00:56:57,383
The Oracle of Omaha
building his image
1008
00:56:57,467 --> 00:56:59,093
and having some fun.
1009
00:57:01,387 --> 00:57:04,974
Berkshire shares have increased
more than 2000 percent in value.
1010
00:57:05,058 --> 00:57:07,852
One of the largest
market capitalizations in the world
1011
00:57:08,061 --> 00:57:09,228
and it could grow a lot larger
1012
00:57:09,312 --> 00:57:12,357
since Warren Buffett shows no sign
of slowing down.
1013
00:57:12,607 --> 00:57:16,611
So how did he do it? By investing
in what he knows and understands.
1014
00:57:16,694 --> 00:57:18,404
Good old-fashioned American brands
1015
00:57:18,488 --> 00:57:21,866
like Coca-Cola, Fruit of the Loom
and Dairy Queen.
1016
00:57:21,950 --> 00:57:23,034
What inspired you? I mean...
1017
00:57:23,117 --> 00:57:24,786
- This inspired me.
- Buy what you like.
1018
00:57:24,869 --> 00:57:26,496
- Is that what it is?
- Yeah, absolutely.
1019
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:34,129
Today, the Coca-Cola Company
will sell almost two billion
1020
00:57:34,212 --> 00:57:38,216
eight ounce servings of one form
or another of Coca-Cola products.
1021
00:57:38,466 --> 00:57:41,678
Now if you get an extra penny a day,
a penny a serving
1022
00:57:41,845 --> 00:57:45,598
that's 20 million dollars a day,
that's 7.3 billion dollars a year
1023
00:57:45,682 --> 00:57:47,142
from one penny more.
1024
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:49,728
When you own Coca-Cola
1025
00:57:49,811 --> 00:57:55,025
you own a little piece of the minds
of billions and billions of people.
1026
00:57:56,693 --> 00:57:58,194
That is really good.
1027
00:58:00,322 --> 00:58:02,365
And whose got the most
hundred-dollar bills these days?
1028
00:58:02,449 --> 00:58:04,784
Well, his name is Warren Buffett
in this country
1029
00:58:04,868 --> 00:58:07,704
and he has just displaced
his friend Bill Gates
1030
00:58:07,787 --> 00:58:10,415
as the richest businessman
in the world.
1031
00:58:18,131 --> 00:58:19,382
And the purpose
of Wednesday's meeting
1032
00:58:19,466 --> 00:58:22,093
was to discuss Buffett's company
Berkshire Hathaway's plan
1033
00:58:22,177 --> 00:58:24,638
to purchase railroad giant
Burlington Northern.
1034
00:58:24,721 --> 00:58:26,348
Valued at 26 billion dollars
1035
00:58:26,431 --> 00:58:28,934
this would be Buffett's
largest acquisition ever.
1036
00:58:33,355 --> 00:58:35,524
He's created Berkshire
from virtually nothing
1037
00:58:35,607 --> 00:58:38,735
into hundreds of billions
of dollars in market cap.
1038
00:58:39,361 --> 00:58:41,238
Nobody else has a record like that.
1039
00:58:42,030 --> 00:58:45,409
He wanted to have
an outstanding reputation.
1040
00:58:45,575 --> 00:58:48,203
And he'd never really upset
the apple cart
1041
00:58:48,287 --> 00:58:51,665
when he bought a business,
that he kept the management in place.
1042
00:58:53,208 --> 00:58:57,921
He was establishing a reputation
that paid off later in life.
1043
00:58:59,256 --> 00:59:02,134
It's been building and building
ever since I've known him.
1044
00:59:04,386 --> 00:59:06,513
It takes 20 years
to build a reputation
1045
00:59:06,597 --> 00:59:08,682
and it takes five minutes to lose it.
1046
00:59:12,728 --> 00:59:15,105
When Warren made his investment
in Salomon
1047
00:59:15,189 --> 00:59:18,817
I was one of the people,
along with many, many others
1048
00:59:18,901 --> 00:59:21,612
who were quite amazed
because he had taken
1049
00:59:21,695 --> 00:59:25,366
a very critical tone in talking
about investment bankers
1050
00:59:25,449 --> 00:59:27,076
and about their greed.
1051
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:31,205
And here he was investing
in one Salomon Brothers
1052
00:59:31,288 --> 00:59:33,999
that was known
to be a member of the club.
1053
00:59:36,543 --> 00:59:38,587
Warren and Charlie went on the board.
1054
00:59:38,712 --> 00:59:43,342
And Charlie couldn't stand
what was going on there
1055
00:59:43,509 --> 00:59:45,636
and didn't like the culture at all.
1056
00:59:45,886 --> 00:59:49,265
And shortly after they got involved
1057
00:59:49,348 --> 00:59:50,975
the thing exploded.
1058
00:59:59,567 --> 01:00:05,114
In 1991, on a terrible day in August,
I got a call
1059
01:00:05,364 --> 01:00:09,243
And the two top officers of Salomon
were on the other end.
1060
01:00:09,326 --> 01:00:13,622
And they said
that, you know, "We have problem."
1061
01:00:16,167 --> 01:00:18,252
This is NBC Nightly News.
1062
01:00:18,544 --> 01:00:20,504
Good evening,
it is the kind of scandal
1063
01:00:20,588 --> 01:00:23,007
that rocks Wall Street
and raises questions
1064
01:00:23,090 --> 01:00:26,177
questions about the integrity
of our financial institutions.
1065
01:00:26,636 --> 01:00:28,512
For the giant securities firm
of Salomon Brothers
1066
01:00:28,596 --> 01:00:32,058
under investigation for improper
trading of treasury bonds...
1067
01:00:33,184 --> 01:00:34,810
Salomon admitted it exceeded
1068
01:00:34,894 --> 01:00:37,230
the limit of trading
in government bonds
1069
01:00:37,313 --> 01:00:39,607
once by buying bonds
in the name of a customer
1070
01:00:39,690 --> 01:00:41,776
who didn't even know about the deal.
1071
01:00:41,984 --> 01:00:44,028
Salomon Brothers
is under investigation
1072
01:00:44,111 --> 01:00:46,197
by the Treasury Department,
the Federal Reserve
1073
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,491
the SCC and the Justice Department.
1074
01:00:48,741 --> 01:00:51,577
But more important
than the fate of the firm itself
1075
01:00:51,661 --> 01:00:54,956
is the impact their actions
could have on the public trust
1076
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,167
and on the credibility
of the American market worldwide.
1077
01:01:00,044 --> 01:01:03,047
The company owed
a hundred and fifty billion dollars.
1078
01:01:03,131 --> 01:01:05,675
It owed more money
than any other private company
1079
01:01:05,758 --> 01:01:07,593
in the United States at the time.
1080
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:09,762
And that night
1081
01:01:10,263 --> 01:01:12,682
I met with the man that ran
the federal reserve in New York
1082
01:01:12,765 --> 01:01:16,311
who was the sheriff, in effect,
and I said
1083
01:01:16,394 --> 01:01:18,396
"You know, I've never really owed
very much money before."
1084
01:01:18,479 --> 01:01:20,356
I said,
"I got a little mortgage on a house
1085
01:01:20,607 --> 01:01:23,067
but 150 billion
is a little staggering."
1086
01:01:23,151 --> 01:01:25,486
And I was hoping he would say,
"Well, don't worry, Warren.
1087
01:01:25,570 --> 01:01:27,447
We'll give you
a few weeks to breathe."
1088
01:01:27,947 --> 01:01:32,202
And he said to me,
"Prepare for any eventuality."
1089
01:01:39,209 --> 01:01:41,461
Earlier today,
the US Treasury Department announced
1090
01:01:41,544 --> 01:01:44,255
it had suspended Salomon Brothers
from participating
1091
01:01:44,339 --> 01:01:45,965
in the auction of new issues.
1092
01:01:46,049 --> 01:01:49,844
It was one more jolt
for a scandal-scarred Wall Street.
1093
01:01:51,262 --> 01:01:54,641
The Fed was in effect saying
you're an evil force
1094
01:01:54,724 --> 01:01:57,435
and we don't want you
trading our bonds.
1095
01:01:59,604 --> 01:02:02,691
It was a huge turning point
for Warren.
1096
01:02:03,274 --> 01:02:06,069
And he believed
that at that particular point
1097
01:02:06,152 --> 01:02:08,280
his reputation was on the line.
1098
01:02:09,489 --> 01:02:12,242
Warren had 24 hours
to make up his mind
1099
01:02:12,325 --> 01:02:13,785
as to whether he was going
to go forward
1100
01:02:13,868 --> 01:02:15,579
or just bow out.
1101
01:02:16,162 --> 01:02:17,372
And I think at that point
1102
01:02:17,455 --> 01:02:19,875
Salomon Brothers could have gone
into bankruptcy.
1103
01:02:20,584 --> 01:02:23,920
And Warren stepped up
and took responsibility.
1104
01:02:27,757 --> 01:02:29,092
Okay...
1105
01:02:29,968 --> 01:02:36,767
I'm Warren Buffett, I was elected
interim Chairman of Salomon Inc.
1106
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:39,853
a few hours ago
at a board of directors meeting.
1107
01:02:40,479 --> 01:02:42,189
Why was it necessary
for you to step in
1108
01:02:42,272 --> 01:02:44,232
and what is
your mandate of leadership?
1109
01:02:44,441 --> 01:02:46,401
I think that it was necessary
to step in
1110
01:02:46,485 --> 01:02:50,072
because I would do
whatever was needed to dig out
1111
01:02:50,155 --> 01:02:52,574
any bit of information
about what's happened in the past
1112
01:02:52,658 --> 01:02:53,992
and I would do everything I could
to make sure
1113
01:02:54,076 --> 01:02:55,535
that things are exactly right
in the future.
1114
01:02:55,619 --> 01:02:57,829
Mr. Buffett,
are you satisfied that...
1115
01:02:57,913 --> 01:02:59,665
I had to convince the Treasury
1116
01:02:59,748 --> 01:03:03,710
that what was done in the past
was awful and stupid
1117
01:03:03,794 --> 01:03:06,672
and they had every right
to be furious at us.
1118
01:03:06,755 --> 01:03:09,007
But this firm employed 8,000 people
1119
01:03:09,466 --> 01:03:11,218
and it was going to
go out of business
1120
01:03:11,301 --> 01:03:14,054
unless they let us continue,
basically.
1121
01:03:16,473 --> 01:03:18,600
Warren believed that there was
1122
01:03:18,684 --> 01:03:20,477
a too big to fail scenario.
1123
01:03:20,561 --> 01:03:22,438
The term was not used then
1124
01:03:22,521 --> 01:03:25,732
but he believed
that Salomon was too big to fail.
1125
01:03:26,316 --> 01:03:28,736
And if Salomon went down
1126
01:03:28,819 --> 01:03:32,614
it would take other important parts
of Wall Street with it.
1127
01:03:35,576 --> 01:03:37,786
We had this death knell
from the Treasury
1128
01:03:37,870 --> 01:03:40,080
so I called the Treasury.
1129
01:03:40,372 --> 01:03:42,082
Nick Brady was the Secretary.
1130
01:03:42,708 --> 01:03:45,044
You know,
I'm pleading for my life.
1131
01:03:45,127 --> 01:03:47,212
And I'm sure my voice
was cracking and everything else.
1132
01:03:47,296 --> 01:03:49,423
I said, "Nick, this is
the most important day of my life."
1133
01:03:50,215 --> 01:03:51,508
And then I really did feel
1134
01:03:51,592 --> 01:03:54,970
that it was going to be
a colossal disaster.
1135
01:03:56,388 --> 01:03:58,015
He wasn't sure I was right at all.
1136
01:03:58,098 --> 01:03:59,475
In fact, he probably thought
I was wrong
1137
01:03:59,558 --> 01:04:02,269
but he knew
that I felt what I was saying.
1138
01:04:03,187 --> 01:04:06,023
So the Treasury modified its order.
1139
01:04:06,106 --> 01:04:09,276
And, in effect, of course,
it was quite an endorsement.
1140
01:04:10,152 --> 01:04:11,487
It was huge.
1141
01:04:16,242 --> 01:04:17,576
It saved Salomon.
1142
01:04:17,952 --> 01:04:21,330
Nick Brady went with Warren,
because he trusted him.
1143
01:04:22,164 --> 01:04:25,584
It shows how having a good reputation
is really helpful in life.
1144
01:04:27,712 --> 01:04:31,173
I thank you for the opportunity
to appear before this subcommittee.
1145
01:04:32,258 --> 01:04:34,260
I would like to start by apologizing
1146
01:04:34,343 --> 01:04:36,095
for the acts
that have brought us here.
1147
01:04:36,637 --> 01:04:40,516
A nation has a right to expect
its rules and laws to be obeyed.
1148
01:04:40,892 --> 01:04:43,060
But I also have asked
every Salomon employee
1149
01:04:43,144 --> 01:04:45,605
to be his or her
own compliance officer.
1150
01:04:45,938 --> 01:04:48,107
After they first obey all rules
1151
01:04:48,191 --> 01:04:50,651
I then want employees
to ask themselves
1152
01:04:50,818 --> 01:04:53,946
whether they are willing to have
any contemplated act
1153
01:04:54,405 --> 01:04:57,992
appear the next day on the front page
of their local paper
1154
01:04:58,493 --> 01:05:01,704
to be read by their spouses,
children and friends.
1155
01:05:02,538 --> 01:05:04,207
If they follow this test
1156
01:05:04,290 --> 01:05:06,751
they need not fear
my other message to them.
1157
01:05:07,210 --> 01:05:09,921
Lose money for the firm,
and I will be understanding.
1158
01:05:10,171 --> 01:05:13,508
Lose a shred of reputation
for the firm, and I will be ruthless.
1159
01:05:14,092 --> 01:05:15,718
I welcome your questions.
1160
01:05:37,657 --> 01:05:38,783
It's been 50 years,
1161
01:05:38,867 --> 01:05:41,828
since I formally took control
of Berkshire Hathaway.
1162
01:05:41,911 --> 01:05:44,873
And, step by step,
we've created something
1163
01:05:44,956 --> 01:05:49,002
that is kind of what I dreamt
we might create over time
1164
01:05:49,085 --> 01:05:50,503
but it took a lot of time to do it.
1165
01:05:50,587 --> 01:05:53,631
It never seemed like we were making
that much progress on any one day
1166
01:05:53,715 --> 01:05:55,592
but compound interest works.
1167
01:05:57,135 --> 01:05:59,387
When you think back 50 years ago
1168
01:05:59,471 --> 01:06:02,390
when you founded this company,
did you ever imagine it would be
1169
01:06:02,474 --> 01:06:04,559
the fifth largest company
in the world?
1170
01:06:06,186 --> 01:06:09,230
No, I didn't,
but if I was thinking about it
1171
01:06:09,314 --> 01:06:12,609
I wouldn't have thought in terms
of being the fifth or the fourth
1172
01:06:12,692 --> 01:06:13,735
or the third.
1173
01:06:13,818 --> 01:06:15,779
- You would've wanted number one.
- Well...
1174
01:06:16,196 --> 01:06:18,156
I mean, if you're going to dream,
you might as well dream.
1175
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,866
two, three.
1176
01:06:22,285 --> 01:06:24,955
Bill Gates wins. Bill Gates wins.
1177
01:06:25,038 --> 01:06:27,123
Well, a Berkshire Hathaway
shareholders meeting
1178
01:06:27,207 --> 01:06:30,752
is partly a fun festival,
it's sort of a Mardi Gras
1179
01:06:30,836 --> 01:06:32,838
for people to come every year.
1180
01:06:32,921 --> 01:06:36,007
It's a chance for us to have
a lot of fun and meet the people
1181
01:06:36,091 --> 01:06:38,218
that have entrusted us
with their money.
1182
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,726
Well, we used to have
just 30 people in a cafeteria.
1183
01:06:46,476 --> 01:06:49,938
And now we have
this huge public spectacle.
1184
01:06:51,773 --> 01:06:53,483
Celebration is part
1185
01:06:53,567 --> 01:06:57,070
of making a group of people
work well together.
1186
01:06:57,904 --> 01:06:59,156
It's a celebration.
1187
01:06:59,239 --> 01:07:04,453
We are glad
You're here at our meeting.
1188
01:07:04,703 --> 01:07:08,415
Be sure to check out our wares.
1189
01:07:08,498 --> 01:07:12,878
We'll sell you
See's Candy and Dilly Bars.
1190
01:07:12,961 --> 01:07:16,340
And insurance for all of your cars.
1191
01:07:16,423 --> 01:07:20,135
For its buy, buy, buy all you see
1192
01:07:20,219 --> 01:07:25,057
at the Berkshire show.
1193
01:07:33,399 --> 01:07:36,735
He truly loves to do what he does.
1194
01:07:37,111 --> 01:07:39,363
- Love you, Warren!
- Oh, yeah.
1195
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,826
I think investors
who own Berkshire Hathaway
1196
01:07:43,909 --> 01:07:46,245
they see themselves
as a part of a community.
1197
01:07:46,328 --> 01:07:48,414
One, two, three, smile!
1198
01:07:50,082 --> 01:07:52,418
There are more
long-term holders of Berkshire
1199
01:07:52,501 --> 01:07:53,961
than any company.
1200
01:07:54,044 --> 01:07:56,005
People consider it a religion.
1201
01:07:58,841 --> 01:08:01,594
They don't buy it with the idea
they're going to sell it next week.
1202
01:08:01,677 --> 01:08:04,305
I think most of them buy it
with the intent of holding it
1203
01:08:04,388 --> 01:08:07,516
for their lifetime just like they'd
buy a farm or buy an apartment house.
1204
01:08:08,184 --> 01:08:10,519
At Berkshire, everybody gets
the same information
1205
01:08:10,603 --> 01:08:12,730
from the comprehensive annual report.
1206
01:08:13,606 --> 01:08:15,274
We don't meet with the analysts.
1207
01:08:15,357 --> 01:08:17,610
I'm not interested in what an analyst
thinks about Berkshire.
1208
01:08:17,693 --> 01:08:20,404
I'm interested in what the owners
of Berkshire think about Berkshire.
1209
01:08:22,990 --> 01:08:25,242
He came out of a private partnership
1210
01:08:25,326 --> 01:08:27,953
where people he knew
were trusting him.
1211
01:08:28,662 --> 01:08:31,415
And he had his relatives
in the partnership
1212
01:08:31,499 --> 01:08:32,833
and they were not rich.
1213
01:08:33,209 --> 01:08:36,253
And as it got bigger,
he started treating everybody else
1214
01:08:36,337 --> 01:08:37,838
the way he treated his relatives.
1215
01:08:41,175 --> 01:08:42,385
In terms of our feeling
1216
01:08:42,468 --> 01:08:44,220
toward the people
who are shareholders
1217
01:08:44,303 --> 01:08:46,055
we regard them as our partners.
1218
01:08:46,555 --> 01:08:48,891
They're not some faceless group
of people.
1219
01:08:48,975 --> 01:08:50,142
And that's why at the annual meeting
1220
01:08:50,226 --> 01:08:52,228
you know,
I love seeing 40,000 of them.
1221
01:08:53,437 --> 01:08:55,773
It gives real meaning
to what we're doing every day.
1222
01:08:56,566 --> 01:09:02,155
Let's try...
If you know Susie like I know Susie.
1223
01:09:02,738 --> 01:09:05,908
Oh, oh, oh, what a gal.
1224
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:08,870
We just have a lot of love
and respect for each other.
1225
01:09:08,953 --> 01:09:10,538
And that's never changed.
1226
01:09:11,122 --> 01:09:13,291
I don't go to most things in Omaha
1227
01:09:13,374 --> 01:09:15,835
because I think
Astrid lives there with him
1228
01:09:15,918 --> 01:09:17,462
and that's for her to do.
1229
01:09:18,755 --> 01:09:20,882
And then we do all kinds of things.
1230
01:09:24,802 --> 01:09:28,014
Strange as it may seem to people,
I always think, you know, who cares?
1231
01:09:28,097 --> 01:09:30,642
If it's working between the people
who are directly involved
1232
01:09:30,725 --> 01:09:32,185
who cares what anyone thinks.
1233
01:09:32,268 --> 01:09:34,395
And my mother and Astrid
were very close.
1234
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,731
You know,
they really, really loved each other.
1235
01:09:36,814 --> 01:09:40,068
And I think that my mother
was glad that she was there
1236
01:09:40,151 --> 01:09:41,611
because she, you know,
she loved my dad.
1237
01:09:41,694 --> 01:09:44,113
She wanted him taken care of
and happy and...
1238
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:46,658
There's no one better than Astrid.
I mean, she loves my dad.
1239
01:09:46,741 --> 01:09:47,951
She wouldn't care if he had one cent.
1240
01:09:48,034 --> 01:09:50,161
where you belong.
1241
01:09:50,245 --> 01:09:53,081
Well, Astrid has lived with me
for a long time.
1242
01:09:53,873 --> 01:09:55,375
She's done wonders for me.
1243
01:09:56,084 --> 01:09:58,128
It worked well,
but I don't think it will work
1244
01:09:58,211 --> 01:10:00,088
for lots of other people necessarily.
1245
01:10:02,257 --> 01:10:04,426
Susie and I loved each other
and we admired each other
1246
01:10:04,509 --> 01:10:07,303
and we were totally in sync
with what the other was doing
1247
01:10:07,470 --> 01:10:09,681
but we were
two different individuals.
1248
01:10:14,936 --> 01:10:18,857
The first time Warren came out
to San Francisco
1249
01:10:19,733 --> 01:10:22,652
we took a walk and he looked around
and he doesn't...
1250
01:10:22,736 --> 01:10:24,112
He's not very visual.
1251
01:10:25,113 --> 01:10:27,157
He was looking around, and he said
1252
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,535
"This really is...
This is your city."
1253
01:10:37,459 --> 01:10:42,506
I am so drawn to color and light
and form and nature
1254
01:10:42,798 --> 01:10:45,926
that he thought
it was a good place for me.
1255
01:10:47,511 --> 01:10:48,553
Over the years, I've developed
1256
01:10:48,637 --> 01:10:50,931
a better understanding
of human nature.
1257
01:10:51,223 --> 01:10:53,225
I can learn a lot about investments
out of a book
1258
01:10:53,308 --> 01:10:57,062
but I don't think you can learn
as much about human beings.
1259
01:10:57,229 --> 01:10:58,647
You really need some experiences
1260
01:10:58,730 --> 01:11:02,901
and I'm wiser in that respect
than I was 40 or 50 years ago
1261
01:11:02,985 --> 01:11:06,196
even though
I can't rattle off numbers
1262
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,240
the same way I used to be able to.
1263
01:11:13,537 --> 01:11:18,125
Well, I think that what we do
reflects who we are.
1264
01:11:18,208 --> 01:11:20,502
And that's true
for everybody in this room.
1265
01:11:20,669 --> 01:11:22,880
And if you do the work I do
1266
01:11:22,963 --> 01:11:25,716
you meet the best human beings
in the world.
1267
01:11:25,966 --> 01:11:28,802
People who have made
a choice not to make money
1268
01:11:28,886 --> 01:11:31,054
but to serve other human beings.
1269
01:11:31,138 --> 01:11:34,600
I think it's the best kind of life
anyone could have.
1270
01:11:35,267 --> 01:11:36,810
I was with her in Arizona
1271
01:11:36,894 --> 01:11:39,354
at this Fortune Most Powerful
Women's Conference
1272
01:11:39,438 --> 01:11:41,565
and she told me
that she got a biopsy the day before.
1273
01:11:41,648 --> 01:11:43,901
And I didn't really think much of it.
1274
01:11:45,944 --> 01:11:48,906
Then we got home,
and the biopsy results were not good.
1275
01:11:48,989 --> 01:11:50,908
It was Stage IV oral cancer.
1276
01:11:52,826 --> 01:11:55,621
I was on my way
to a board meeting in India
1277
01:11:55,704 --> 01:11:57,539
and I remember saying to her,
you know
1278
01:11:57,623 --> 01:11:59,083
"I'll see you when I get back."
1279
01:11:59,166 --> 01:12:01,043
And she rarely cried.
1280
01:12:01,252 --> 01:12:04,380
And she just started crying and said,
"No, you need to stay here
1281
01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:06,799
and you need to come out
for the operation."
1282
01:12:08,676 --> 01:12:10,719
So we were all there
1283
01:12:10,803 --> 01:12:14,056
and the day she was going
into the surgery, that morning
1284
01:12:14,139 --> 01:12:15,641
my dad...
1285
01:12:16,976 --> 01:12:19,645
It's funny, he...
There's some of it he just can't...
1286
01:12:19,728 --> 01:12:21,230
You know, he just can't...
1287
01:12:21,313 --> 01:12:24,275
The thought of something happening
to her was just for him...
1288
01:12:24,817 --> 01:12:26,986
You know, it was just the worst thing
that could happen.
1289
01:12:28,779 --> 01:12:30,698
She knew it was going to be
really difficult.
1290
01:12:30,781 --> 01:12:34,326
She knew the recovery
was going to be brutal.
1291
01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:38,497
So I think that she had
that surgery for others.
1292
01:12:41,667 --> 01:12:44,629
It was quite a big surgery.
1293
01:12:44,837 --> 01:12:46,505
She couldn't talk.
She couldn't swallow.
1294
01:12:46,589 --> 01:12:47,924
She couldn't eat.
1295
01:12:48,257 --> 01:12:51,218
But she came out,
and I really was with her
1296
01:12:51,302 --> 01:12:53,346
for the next four months or so.
1297
01:12:54,347 --> 01:12:56,140
And my dad came out every weekend.
1298
01:13:02,522 --> 01:13:05,066
And, in a few months,
she was doing better.
1299
01:13:16,494 --> 01:13:18,413
She and my dad had gone
to Cody, Wyoming
1300
01:13:18,496 --> 01:13:21,207
which they did every year
with a bunch of friends.
1301
01:13:26,462 --> 01:13:29,590
And my dad called.
This was, I don't know
1302
01:13:29,674 --> 01:13:32,635
eight o'clock at night or something,
and he said
1303
01:13:33,136 --> 01:13:36,014
"Something happened to Mom.
I'm in an ambulance.
1304
01:13:36,431 --> 01:13:37,765
You need to come."
1305
01:13:41,352 --> 01:13:44,105
I actually thought something
had happened to my dad.
1306
01:13:44,272 --> 01:13:46,274
I don't know why I thought that,
but I guess I thought
1307
01:13:46,357 --> 01:13:48,693
you know, my mom had
had this recovery
1308
01:13:48,776 --> 01:13:50,069
it was successful
1309
01:13:50,153 --> 01:13:53,072
and why would anything
happen to her?
1310
01:13:58,745 --> 01:14:00,079
It was horrible
1311
01:14:00,997 --> 01:14:02,499
and a total shock.
1312
01:14:02,791 --> 01:14:04,250
You know, she'd been fine.
1313
01:14:04,834 --> 01:14:06,961
She'd been fine,
they went off to Cody and...
1314
01:14:07,045 --> 01:14:09,214
She was fine,
and they were having dinner and...
1315
01:14:09,881 --> 01:14:12,050
You know, she didn't feel well
after dinner and...
1316
01:14:12,801 --> 01:14:14,135
She had a stroke.
1317
01:14:18,974 --> 01:14:22,268
We went into the hospital room,
and my dad was sitting there.
1318
01:14:22,352 --> 01:14:25,313
He'd been sitting there all night,
holding her hand.
1319
01:14:27,774 --> 01:14:29,442
I was so proud of him
1320
01:14:29,526 --> 01:14:31,903
because when it came down to it
1321
01:14:31,987 --> 01:14:33,572
he knew what he was supposed to do.
1322
01:14:33,655 --> 01:14:35,949
And he did it, which was nothing.
1323
01:14:40,495 --> 01:14:45,167
So my dad went to sleep,
and I sat with her and...
1324
01:14:45,250 --> 01:14:46,877
I just kept putting my hand
on her heart
1325
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,504
to see if she was breathing and...
1326
01:14:51,965 --> 01:14:54,342
At one point, you know,
I didn't feel anything.
1327
01:14:54,426 --> 01:14:55,719
So I went out, and I got the nurse.
1328
01:14:55,802 --> 01:14:58,138
And I said, "Can you come in here?"
1329
01:14:58,221 --> 01:14:59,639
And she said, "No, she's gone."
1330
01:15:00,599 --> 01:15:02,893
So I have to say,
one of the worst moments of my life
1331
01:15:02,976 --> 01:15:04,936
was waking my dad up
to tell him that.
1332
01:15:15,405 --> 01:15:17,783
It's a very strange thing, love.
You can't get rid of it.
1333
01:15:20,285 --> 01:15:22,579
If you try to give it out,
you get more back.
1334
01:15:24,915 --> 01:15:26,667
If you try to hang onto it,
you lose it.
1335
01:15:35,634 --> 01:15:38,512
Susie really put me together.
1336
01:15:38,762 --> 01:15:42,850
She believed in me.
She put me together and...
1337
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,894
And I would not only have turned out
to be the person I turned out to be
1338
01:15:45,978 --> 01:15:47,855
but I would not have...
I actually wouldn't have been
1339
01:15:47,938 --> 01:15:50,482
as successful in business
without that and...
1340
01:15:51,191 --> 01:15:52,985
She made me more of a whole person.
1341
01:16:00,868 --> 01:16:02,286
He went dark
1342
01:16:02,369 --> 01:16:06,415
essentially quiet and inward
for a certain amount of time.
1343
01:16:09,126 --> 01:16:12,296
You know, my dad is a solitary guy
1344
01:16:12,379 --> 01:16:16,675
and he had lived essentially
a solitary life in a lot of ways.
1345
01:16:18,969 --> 01:16:21,639
I think it came down
to him figuring out
1346
01:16:21,722 --> 01:16:25,184
how he was going to get
through this tunnel
1347
01:16:25,267 --> 01:16:26,727
and get out the other side.
1348
01:16:31,816 --> 01:16:33,025
In my head at the time, I thought
1349
01:16:33,109 --> 01:16:34,985
"God I don't know
if he'll ever get out of bed."
1350
01:16:39,031 --> 01:16:40,366
But he did.
1351
01:16:53,129 --> 01:16:55,256
Welcome, I'm Patty Stonesifer
1352
01:16:55,339 --> 01:16:58,342
the CEO of the Bill and Melinda
Gates Foundation.
1353
01:16:58,426 --> 01:16:59,719
And we appreciate you coming today
1354
01:16:59,802 --> 01:17:03,389
especially since I sent
a very vague and very late notice
1355
01:17:03,472 --> 01:17:06,392
to ask you to come to a conversation
with Bill and Melinda
1356
01:17:06,475 --> 01:17:08,477
on the future on philanthropy.
1357
01:17:08,936 --> 01:17:11,439
So let's get on with it.
1358
01:17:11,689 --> 01:17:15,943
I have the pleasure
of introducing a good man
1359
01:17:16,068 --> 01:17:19,155
whose great decision
is going to change the world
1360
01:17:19,238 --> 01:17:20,573
Warren Buffett.
1361
01:17:31,209 --> 01:17:32,919
A remarkable decision tonight
1362
01:17:33,002 --> 01:17:34,962
from one of the richest men
in the world.
1363
01:17:35,046 --> 01:17:37,090
Mega-billionaire Warren Buffett says
1364
01:17:37,173 --> 01:17:39,884
he is giving away
most of his fortune to charity.
1365
01:17:39,968 --> 01:17:43,012
Buffett has pledged to give away
the bulk of his fortune
1366
01:17:43,096 --> 01:17:45,556
to the Bill and Melinda
Gates Foundation
1367
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,561
and giving more than 15 percent
of his money to foundations
1368
01:17:49,644 --> 01:17:53,064
started by his three children
and his late wife Susan.
1369
01:17:53,398 --> 01:17:56,776
One global health activist called
what Buffett did today
1370
01:17:56,860 --> 01:17:59,195
one of the most remarkably
selfless acts
1371
01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:01,406
that history will ever record.
1372
01:18:02,490 --> 01:18:04,909
That's a better hand than I get
at a Berkshire Hathaway meeting.
1373
01:18:06,911 --> 01:18:08,413
I'd like to thank you for coming.
1374
01:18:08,496 --> 01:18:12,459
It's a great day for me.
It's a great day for my family.
1375
01:18:12,792 --> 01:18:14,169
My wife Susie and I had planned
1376
01:18:14,252 --> 01:18:17,505
that whatever I made
would go back to society.
1377
01:18:17,589 --> 01:18:19,674
And, originally,
I thought she would outlive me
1378
01:18:19,758 --> 01:18:21,926
and that she'd make
a big decision on it.
1379
01:18:22,010 --> 01:18:25,180
But since her death, I had to rethink
1380
01:18:25,263 --> 01:18:27,682
the best way to get the money
into society
1381
01:18:27,766 --> 01:18:29,434
and have it used
in the most effective way.
1382
01:18:29,517 --> 01:18:32,854
And I had a solution
staring me in the face.
1383
01:18:33,980 --> 01:18:37,859
It was completely out of the blue,
I mean, amazing.
1384
01:18:38,318 --> 01:18:43,448
The largest single gift ever given
was what he gave away that day.
1385
01:18:44,449 --> 01:18:46,493
I'd like to ask
the people representing
1386
01:18:46,576 --> 01:18:49,496
those various foundations
to come out.
1387
01:18:53,208 --> 01:18:55,919
The first three letters
are easy to sign. I just sign "Dad".
1388
01:19:10,851 --> 01:19:14,396
When he wrote the letter to us,
he put something in that letter
1389
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,525
that was incredibly important to me
which was exactly
1390
01:19:18,609 --> 01:19:21,111
how our foundation behaves
which is
1391
01:19:21,194 --> 01:19:23,196
"If you're going to try to bat
a thousand
1392
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,741
you won't do many things
that are important.
1393
01:19:25,824 --> 01:19:29,119
But if you're willing
to basically strike out a few times
1394
01:19:29,202 --> 01:19:30,996
you can really change something big."
1395
01:19:31,079 --> 01:19:32,414
ICCN!
1396
01:19:35,209 --> 01:19:37,461
Well, I feel terrific about the fact
that my three children
1397
01:19:37,544 --> 01:19:40,589
each run a separate foundation
that combines
1398
01:19:40,839 --> 01:19:44,134
their special interests,
whether it's early education
1399
01:19:44,218 --> 01:19:47,513
or whether it's farming
in areas where people's techniques
1400
01:19:47,596 --> 01:19:50,766
for using small plots of land
could use a lot of improvement.
1401
01:19:51,141 --> 01:19:53,477
All kinds of ways.
Vaccines, you name it.
1402
01:19:54,686 --> 01:19:56,438
More powerful than Buffett's gift
1403
01:19:56,522 --> 01:19:59,775
is the message he's sending
to other wealthy Americans
1404
01:19:59,858 --> 01:20:01,777
that those
who have the least in this world
1405
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:04,947
should benefit
from those who have the most.
1406
01:20:10,244 --> 01:20:11,412
In my entire lifetime
1407
01:20:11,495 --> 01:20:15,374
everything that I've spent
will be quite a bit less
1408
01:20:15,457 --> 01:20:17,293
than one percent
of everything I've made.
1409
01:20:17,376 --> 01:20:19,753
The other 99 percent plus
will go to others
1410
01:20:19,837 --> 01:20:21,964
because it has no utility to me.
1411
01:20:26,051 --> 01:20:31,599
So it's silly for me
to not transfer that utility
1412
01:20:31,682 --> 01:20:33,142
to people who can use it.
1413
01:20:35,019 --> 01:20:36,562
It's doing me no good.
1414
01:20:41,817 --> 01:20:43,778
I am so proud of what we do.
1415
01:20:45,905 --> 01:20:47,365
I almost cry at every board meeting
1416
01:20:47,448 --> 01:20:51,118
because I just think
she would be so proud.
1417
01:20:52,495 --> 01:20:55,915
And that is... My biggest job,
in my opinion, is to make sure
1418
01:20:55,998 --> 01:20:58,417
that every penny gets spent
the way that she would want it spent.
1419
01:21:01,837 --> 01:21:04,340
Whoever you are in this life,
you don't want to think
1420
01:21:04,423 --> 01:21:09,512
you wasted a lot
of your energy and love and time
1421
01:21:09,595 --> 01:21:11,430
on something useless.
1422
01:21:13,558 --> 01:21:16,352
I always thought I'd marry
a minister, a doctor
1423
01:21:16,435 --> 01:21:21,732
or somebody out doing
some valuable service
1424
01:21:21,816 --> 01:21:23,901
to human beings.
1425
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:28,948
And the fact that I married somebody
who makes just piles of money
1426
01:21:29,031 --> 01:21:32,034
is really the antithesis
of what I ever thought.
1427
01:21:32,410 --> 01:21:34,245
But I know what he is.
1428
01:21:34,328 --> 01:21:38,207
And he is...
1429
01:21:39,584 --> 01:21:42,503
There's no finer human being
than who he is.
1430
01:21:54,599 --> 01:21:58,603
The truth is that I'm here
in my position as a matter of luck.
1431
01:22:02,732 --> 01:22:06,569
When I was born in 1930,
the odds were probably 40 to 1
1432
01:22:06,653 --> 01:22:08,822
against me being born
in the United States.
1433
01:22:09,823 --> 01:22:12,200
I did win the ovarian lottery
on that first day
1434
01:22:12,283 --> 01:22:14,077
and, on top of that, I was male.
1435
01:22:15,328 --> 01:22:17,038
Put that down
as another fifty-fifty shot
1436
01:22:17,122 --> 01:22:18,665
and now the odds are 80 to 1
1437
01:22:18,748 --> 01:22:22,168
against being born a male
in the United States
1438
01:22:22,252 --> 01:22:25,755
and it was enormously important
in my whole life.
1439
01:22:26,548 --> 01:22:28,550
To think that that makes me superior
1440
01:22:28,633 --> 01:22:30,635
to anyone else
as a human being is just...
1441
01:22:30,719 --> 01:22:32,595
I can't follow
that line of reasoning.
1442
01:22:38,643 --> 01:22:41,438
I think I was lucky
to have been standing
1443
01:22:41,521 --> 01:22:45,317
alongside Warren Buffett
while he was becoming Warren Buffett.
1444
01:22:45,901 --> 01:22:49,696
He has developed over the years.
He's broadened.
1445
01:22:50,238 --> 01:22:53,366
His values extend
through all of his life.
1446
01:22:54,743 --> 01:22:57,579
He wants to lead a life
that he and his father
1447
01:22:57,662 --> 01:23:01,041
if his father was still living,
would say was a good one.
1448
01:23:03,210 --> 01:23:04,503
I think he's going to end up
1449
01:23:04,586 --> 01:23:07,380
in the history books
a hundred years from now.
1450
01:23:07,464 --> 01:23:10,675
I'm not sure
what role he's going to be assigned.
1451
01:23:10,759 --> 01:23:12,386
Will he be famous for what he did
1452
01:23:12,469 --> 01:23:16,056
as an investor
or as a philanthropist?
1453
01:23:16,932 --> 01:23:19,476
But Warren said
that his ambition in life
1454
01:23:19,559 --> 01:23:20,894
is to be a teacher.
1455
01:23:22,521 --> 01:23:24,356
The world is a great movie to watch
1456
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,900
but you don't want
to sleepwalk through life.
1457
01:23:26,984 --> 01:23:28,277
The important thing to do
1458
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,572
is to look for the job you would take
if you didn't need a job.
1459
01:23:31,655 --> 01:23:33,448
And life is wonderful then.
1460
01:23:33,532 --> 01:23:36,159
I mean, you know, you'll jump
out of bed in the morning
1461
01:23:36,243 --> 01:23:38,704
because you're really
looking forward to the day.
1462
01:23:38,996 --> 01:23:43,750
I have, for over 60 years,
been able to tap dance to work
1463
01:23:43,834 --> 01:23:46,044
just because I'm doing
what I love doing
1464
01:23:46,128 --> 01:23:49,256
and I just feel very, very lucky.
1465
01:23:49,506 --> 01:23:51,300
Okay, class dismissed.
1466
01:24:11,028 --> 01:24:12,363
Hi.
1467
01:24:12,863 --> 01:24:15,366
- Do you fear death?
- No, I don't.
1468
01:24:17,076 --> 01:24:19,286
I've had a terrific life, I feel...
1469
01:24:19,370 --> 01:24:21,330
You know, it's going to happen and...
1470
01:24:21,413 --> 01:24:22,873
I have no idea what happens after it.
1471
01:24:22,957 --> 01:24:26,669
I'm an agnostic, so I, you know...
It may be terribly interesting.
1472
01:24:26,752 --> 01:24:28,462
It may not be interesting at all.
We'll find out.
1473
01:24:28,546 --> 01:24:31,006
But physically,
I'm pretty well depreciated.
1474
01:24:31,090 --> 01:24:32,925
I'm getting down to salvage value.
1475
01:24:39,473 --> 01:24:40,724
But it really doesn't make
any difference at all.
1476
01:24:40,808 --> 01:24:42,852
It doesn't interfere with my work.
1477
01:24:42,935 --> 01:24:44,145
It doesn't interfere
with my happiness.
1478
01:24:44,228 --> 01:24:45,855
It doesn't interfere
with my thinking.
1479
01:24:50,901 --> 01:24:52,820
I don't feel any diminution
1480
01:24:52,903 --> 01:24:56,699
in my enjoyment of life
or my enthusiasm for life at all.
1481
01:24:57,283 --> 01:24:59,618
In fact, in a sense,
the game that I'm in
1482
01:24:59,702 --> 01:25:01,662
gets more interesting all the time.
1483
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,208
It's a competitive game.
It's a big game.
1484
01:25:06,417 --> 01:25:09,334
And I enjoyed the game a lot.
1485
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,792
Good night, Susie.
1486
01:28:31,900 --> 01:28:40,233
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