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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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Oh man.
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Let's move.
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Oh my-- I've never
seen it like this.
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Jeez.
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It's a lot bigger than
I remember it being.
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This slab up here,
this is the stage.
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When I died, I wanted my ashes
to be like ground up like grind
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up a part of this and put my
ashes into this middle section
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because I thought this
would be here forever.
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[THEME MUSIC]
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I've never seen a
nightclub like this.
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It had a feel.
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JOE VIRUS: There's chandeliers.
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There's stained glass.
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There was this
mystique about it.
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There's mystery in the air.
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This is my place.
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This is my home.
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JBABE: It was just
like an orgasm of life.
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It was, I think,
summer of '86.
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We're all skateboarding
out in my driveway.
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And we all had the jam
box out there cranked up.
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And then it went to
the stupid commercial.
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It came back from that
with a chainsaw ripping.
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We're all shouting, "Timber!"
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Because DOA had a song
called Lumberjack City.
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No, timber happens, and we're
like, what the hell is going on?
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And all of a sudden this
like kick drum just kicks in.
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We hear this howling.
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It sounded like the
devil was like coming
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through the speakers.
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We run into the garage
and get the phone.
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We're calling the station
and waiting for 15 minutes
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like for them to answer.
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And finally, somebody
answered and we're like, hey,
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you started this set off
with there was a chainsaw.
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It sounded like the devil.
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What was that?
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They're like, that was
skinny puppy chainsaw.
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It was just mind blowing.
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And I'm like--
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And it was that moment when
I started wearing black.
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DON NEDLER: I was a kid.
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I was about 11 years old, and
there was a lounge near my house
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where I grew up.
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And I used to ride my bike
over there after school.
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And they would be
setting up the club.
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And the band would be
rehearsing and they'd
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be putting the ashtrays out and
washing down the rubber mats.
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And I thought, this is
the coolest thing ever.
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This is what I want to
do, right then and there
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that I wanted to be in
the nightclub business.
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I worked at a club called
After The Gold Rush.
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I was 18.
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And I would do shitty jobs,
cleaning the bar mats,
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scrubbing the floors.
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Terrible jobs.
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But I was there all day,
every day by myself.
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And so I used to go into the DJ
booth and I would play records.
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And I sort of taught
myself how to DJ.
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And one day, the DJ was sick.
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I said, I can do it.
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They're like, you?
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And I'm like.
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And they said, all right.
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So I DJed.
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And After The Gold
Rush, it was like 1976.
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It was the disco era.
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And I just got up and
banged it out, man.
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I hit a home run
because I thought
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the coolest job in this
whole nightclub is the DJ.
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Well, now I really
have the coolest job.
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Well, I just picked
up the new Stevie Ray
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Vaughan live from
Montrose CD, so I'm
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more into rock and roll
and rhythm and blues,
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but I also like dance music.
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I was a DJ for 10 years
before I was a club owner.
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Oh yeah.
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RON STANLEY: If you were in
Deep Ellum in the early 80s,
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it would not look like
what it looks now.
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At that time it was
warehouses, cheap rent.
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It was just kind of a
shadow of its former self,
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being the famous Deep
Ellum of the 1930s.
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[LOUIS ARMSTRONG, "DALAS BLUES"]
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LOUIS ARMSTRONG: (SINGING)
I got the Dallas blues
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and I'm feeling
mighty, a bit mighty.
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I mean sad.
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I got the Dallas blues and
I'm feeling mighty sad.
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Deep Ellum has just such
as incredibly rich history
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from blues being there,
and that sort of--
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80s when it was sort
of being revived,
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making it a kind of destination.
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There was no Goth scene.
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In the time we
called it industrial.
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Goth, really, I don't
think was coalescing yet.
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And it really took
the clubs to do that.
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Clubs that were operating
in those early 80 years
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were a reaction to the
prominent way in which Dallas
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thought of itself.
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All of those people
who didn't fit
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in to a sort of
traditional nightclub
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would find people like
them at the start.
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DON NEDLER: The Starck
Club was groundbreaking.
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What they did was really
innovative and way ahead
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of its time.
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Philippe Starck
designed the space.
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It was an incredible space.
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Everything about
it was glamorous.
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Many people who went to star
Starck spent like all day trying
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to figure out what to wear.
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There were certainly
some people who
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were dressed somewhat in Goth.
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But musically, I think
the Starck Club really
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broke new ground.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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RON STANLEY: It's music
that was descendant
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of synthpop and disco.
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DON NEDLER: That music that
was so innovative and so
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progressive, we incorporated
a lot of it into The Church.
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Starck set a tone that
the church and Lizard Lounge
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sort of carried on.
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Everything about
Starck Club inspired me.
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Everything.
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JOE VIRUS: In 1988,
dad decides that we're
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moving back to Arlington.
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And it was like the first
couple of weeks of school.
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I'm in English class, and
this guy would show up late.
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And he had this just total
disregard for everything look.
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He just looked cool.
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I see that he's wearing
a Skinny Puppy shirt.
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And I look over.
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I'm like, dude, you
like Skinny Puppy?
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He's like, yeah.
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You know Skinny Puppy?
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And I'm like, yeah.
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And I show him my book.
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I had drawn the
logo on the cover.
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A couple of weeks
later, he's like,
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hey, what are you
doing Friday night?
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Well, there's a party,
you should come.
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And I'm like, OK, cool.
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And I go to this party.
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I'm like scared.
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And I'm looking at
everybody, and they all
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look like heavy
metal rock stars.
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And the girls all look
like rock star video girls.
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I look up, and there's my friend
coming through the front door
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with ice.
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I'm like, dude, I don't
know anybody here.
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I thought this was
like high school party.
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He's like, oh, no, this is
Vinnie and Daryl's place
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from Pantera.
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He leaves again, and
I'm just sitting there.
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And all of a sudden this girl
falls out of heaven or something
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into my lap.
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And then she says, hey,
let's go to Empire.
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And I'm like, OK.
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I'm like, I don't
know where I'm going.
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And I got to be
home by midnight.
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And it was like the long way
to get to downtown Dallas.
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It's just so unreal.
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It's unreal how big these
buildings are all lit up.
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And it's beautiful.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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So we pass downtown, and
we go into this bridge.
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And then everything is
like lower buildings.
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They're like two,
three story high,
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but like a lot more neon
and a lot of graffiti
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and a lot of punk
looking people.
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And I'm like, oh, this is cool.
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What is this?
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And she said, oh,
this is Deep Ellum.
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And we're driving
through, and I'm
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seeing people with Mohawks
and different colored hair.
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And I'm just like,
I'm tripping out.
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But I got scared
because all of a sudden
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it went from being this
neon jungle of punk
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and new wave looking
people everywhere
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to nothing but warehouses.
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And I'm like, they're
going to kill me.
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They're going to tie me
to a pole and kill me.
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And we turn down
from good Latimer.
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We turn on to Swiss Avenue.
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As we turn the corner,
I realized that, oh,
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there's another club here.
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And we walk in and my mind
is completely blown away.
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There's chandeliers.
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There's stained glass.
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I look at the spiral
staircase going up
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to the second floor with this
little chandelier hanging there.
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And I'm like, this is gorgeous.
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This is amazing.
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There are all these
people dancing.
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And I hear the music.
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I'm like, this
place is so awesome.
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She goes, this is
just the entryway.
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And I'm like, OK.
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And she takes me in.
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And it was just this big room
with moving lights everywhere,
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disco balls.
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The music was Lucretia,
My Reflection.
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I remember the song.
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This is my home.
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I want to be here.
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I want to be here.
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And this was 2424 Swiss.
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JEFF K: To me, Empire at that
location at 2424 Swiss kind of
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became the club extension of my
radio show, pre Lizard Lounge.
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It's 3:30, and you're listening
to KNON 90.9 FM Dallas.
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My name is Jeff K. Time
once again for Thud Slap.
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Everything I
played had to have
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that kind of electronic
almost aggro beat, bands
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like Xymox, Tackhead,
The Neon Judgment.
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Well, there was only
one place in Dallas
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that those bands played
and that was Empire.
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JEFF K: That's right.
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We're here with Xymox.
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And remember, folks, they're
playing this evening at Empire.
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It's good to have you.
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How is it in Dallas today?
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Pretty hot, isn't it?
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WOMAN: Oh, yes, yes.
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JEFF K: Too hot for you?
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BAND MEMBER: I'm melting.
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JEFF K: You're melting?
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Well, that's interesting.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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DON NEDLER: I got a phone
call from a guy named
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Frank Rigney who told me I
heard from a real estate broker
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you were looking for
a space in Dallas.
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And I have a space.
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Originally, it was a
trolley car repair station.
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And it wasn't so much
a repair station.
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It was like a parts depot.
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There's a trolley
track that runs right
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in front of the place.
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In the 1940s, it became
a furniture warehouse.
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And in 1974, Frank Rigney
redesigned that space
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to convert it from a furniture
warehouse into a dinner theater.
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And they brought in this
baccarat chandelier,
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which when you walk into that
space, it's breathtaking.
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It was really opulent.
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It was a beautiful room with
the red carpet, the red drapes
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and gold chains.
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I mean, it was very
Gothic looking.
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And it was 2424 Swiss Avenue.
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What's up, Joe?
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Good to see you, man.
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How you doing, man?
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Doing good.
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Doing good.
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It's been a while
since I've been in here.
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It's emotional walking in here.
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Obviously it stirs
up some emotion.
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I spent 28 years in this room.
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I was here every night.
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I remember the first night I
had the keys to this building.
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My partner and I sat in chairs
right here and right here
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and just looked
around this space.
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And we couldn't
believe it was ours
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because I had come in here in
1988 when it was the Empire.
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And I love this space.
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And I just wouldn't
have believed you
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if you told me then
three years later,
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I would be operating a Lizard
Lounge out of this very room.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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JOE VIRUS: I was
still in high school.
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And I heard about this
place called the Lizard
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Lounge that was opening.
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The advertisements were all
techno and it was just like--
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RADIO: Tonight the Lizard Lounge
presents tickets are only $5
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for over 21 at
the lizard Lounge.
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2424 Swiss Avenue
live The Lounge.
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I've never been more nervous
in my life, but we did it.
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And we opened December 19, 1991.
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It was packed.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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And I connected with
a guy named Jeff K.
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And Jeff was a guy who
really opened my eyes
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and taught me
about rave culture.
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It really all starts with
the first two performances
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that Don and I
worked on together,
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and that would have been
the prodigy in 1992.
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And then later that
same year, Moby.
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The first artist that really
got my attention was Moby.
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RADIO: He is considered
by many to be one
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of the true pioneers of techno.
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Moby.
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And he's coming to
the Lizard Lounge.
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When we booked Moby, we
had 1,000 people in line.
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And I'm out in
front of the club.
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I saw Moby walking
under the freeway.
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He came up and he said,
man, that's some line.
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I said, this is the line
of people who can't get in.
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And he said, well, what
are you going to do?
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I said, I have no idea.
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When it was time for Moby
to show up to the venue,
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he saw so many
people that he said,
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you know what, why
don't we do two shows?
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That really gave
me perspective
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as to how significant
the whole EDM scene is.
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And I saw the
future right there.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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JOE VIRUS: Don really had
his finger on the pulse,
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knowing what was going to be
the next big thing, the Lizard
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Lounge, techno,
DJs as rock stars.
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He predicted all
that you would get.
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Paul Van Dyk, Armin van Buuren,
Steve Aoki, LMFAO, Dead Mouse,
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tons of Moby, Moby.
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Don was one of
the first people
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to start bringing
electronic acts to Dallas.
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He would bring the people
to perform that were
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just records up until then.
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No one had seen them perform.
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No one had knew what they
looked like and everything.
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You would get high level
DJs like Paul Oakenfold.
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I love that venue.
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That venue, the setup, the
white is pretty intense
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to perform there.
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The Dallas crowd are fantastic.
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They're really into
electronic music.
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This city was a pioneer
in club culture.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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MAN: Club culture.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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DON NEDLER: Guy named
Larry Siegel called me up
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and he said, hey, I've
got the space in Miami.
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I know you've got that
Lizard Lounge concept.
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We think it's a good fit.
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And we went to Miami and we
opened the Lizard Lounge.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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On Sunday night, there was
a nightclub called Velvet.
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And inside Velvet, they had
a night called The Church.
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I thought the music
was incredible.
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It was heavier, harder, deeper.
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Yeah, way darker.
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CARLOS MENENDEZ: It wasn't
particularly a Goth club per se,
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but it was a big
ingredient of the night.
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You had your college kids.
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You had your Goth kids.
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You had your hip hop kids.
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And everybody got along.
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And we loved The Church.
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We went there
every Sunday night.
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But eventually, the Lizard
Lounge in Miami failed.
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When I came back to
Dallas, I was broke.
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And I said, we had this
experience in Miami.
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Let's try to take
something positive from it.
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So I reached out to Carlos
Menendez and I said, look--
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I wanted to create the feeling
I got when I walked into Miami,
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and the idea that we took
forward was The Church.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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The Church breathed new
life into the Lizard Lounge.
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Slowly but surely, just
grabbing any customer
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we could get to tell them we
got this really cool thing
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happening on Sunday night.
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You should come check it out.
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The way that I would describe
the church to people from out
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of town that want to know
what our club's like, I said,
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watch any of those movies
from the late 90s when they go
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to this massive club with
all these people and vinyl
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and spikes and leather and
really cool looking clubs.
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The church was that in red.
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There was this
mystique about it.
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There's mystery in the air.
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Magic.
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There's also decadence and
debauchery and indulgence.
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But there's this energy and
this connection between everyone
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there.
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Because you would see
all kinds of people,
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punks, and new wavers and goths.
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Everybody was like
their super selves.
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I remember hearing
about The Church.
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I was in my last
year of high school.
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It was 1994 and there
were radio ads for it.
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RADIO: Give her what she
knows, not what she does.
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An industrial strength dose
of divine intervention.
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Sundays at The Church.
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It's one of the
few times that the ad
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rings true because it was all of
these people sort of ironically,
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wearing a religious clothing.
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But we didn't really have
a religion, of course.
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There were several Satanists.
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They had this
huge, massive statue.
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And he's looking
down at the crowd.
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And it's just menacing and huge.
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You see how everything is
designed and decorated.
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All of that plays a part in
creating this atmosphere.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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DON NEDLER: We
presented ourselves
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like we were really a church.
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And I think to
some degree that's
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where the sense of community
started to come in.
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Walking into that
club for the first time
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and seeing that dance floor and
how many people that were there
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dressed up.
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There was no hot topic.
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The women, they would have
to make their own clothes.
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You're either in gowns that
you probably got at Goodwill
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and made look
Victorian and Gothic.
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Lots of long, flowy skirts.
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Lots of electrical tape
covering private parts.
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People who knew who
they were and seemed
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very accepting of everyone.
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You had people that were
non-binary and people that were
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binary.
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You had drag queens.
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You had people
that were straight.
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You had people that were gay.
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We had a guy that
used to do pony play.
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He had these pony hooves,
and he had a saddle.
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And people used to ride
him around the club.
414
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The whole idea
behind the church
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is always sort of like misfits
island, everyone Welcome.
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And it was like that
in the very beginning.
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The fact that there's
this club for outcasts.
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And that's what I think
most people-- most of us
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were in high school and
middle school and stuff.
420
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It's funny now that
I come here, and I
421
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,310
was an outcast in high school.
422
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I never was popular.
423
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And all of a sudden
I'm popular now here.
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People like to dress up and
play a personality, especially
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a dark personality.
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I had a guy when we first
opened The Church that
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used to dress like a Unabomber.
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He had a hoodie and
sunglasses, and he used to hide
429
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and dart around corners.
430
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He also dressed as Ed Gein.
431
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He would dance on
the dance floor
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with the shovel and the hat.
433
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A real shovel.
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And then there
were the people that
435
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were playing masquerade
all over the place,
436
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and they were dressed
like vampires.
437
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They'd all have their
notebooks with them,
438
00:22:41,530 --> 00:22:42,890
keeping track of everything.
439
00:22:42,890 --> 00:22:44,390
And it's like, oh,
don't talk to me.
440
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:45,130
I'm invisible.
441
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:47,800
OK, so.
442
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,910
DON NEDLER: We
learned that there
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are a bunch of people who don't
fit in to mainstream society.
444
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And The Church was becoming
the center of community
445
00:22:57,970 --> 00:23:01,180
to the Gothic alternative
crowd in Dallas.
446
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:03,400
Honest, this is the
best club in America.
447
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,130
And it's ironic that
it's in Dallas, Texas.
448
00:23:06,130 --> 00:23:08,780
There's a stereotypical
view of Dallas, Texas.
449
00:23:08,780 --> 00:23:10,430
Yeah, we're Kennedy killers.
450
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:11,780
We're Cowboys.
451
00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:14,830
And that's probably
been the fertile ground
452
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that has bred The Church.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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(SINGING) I would
follow you forever.
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I was raised in a very
conservative Southern Baptist
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family, and I'm Wiccan.
457
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:34,150
So it never really--
458
00:23:34,150 --> 00:23:38,560
I never really fit in my family
or in the town I grew up in.
459
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We hold no bias towards
religion, race, creed,
460
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or anything.
461
00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:45,340
Anybody is welcome.
462
00:23:45,340 --> 00:23:47,635
Our main goal is
that you have fun.
463
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I work railroads.
464
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,130
I make steel.
465
00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:56,700
I work in steel factories
and stuff like that,
466
00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:58,680
but no one-- everyone there,
it's like everyone's in a suit
467
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,310
and hard hats.
468
00:23:59,310 --> 00:24:02,170
No one expects it.
469
00:24:02,170 --> 00:24:06,530
There is nothing more exciting
and passionate than the fact,
470
00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:10,300
getting under the
spotlights, center stage,
471
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hearing the music
pounding behind you,
472
00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:17,440
and feeling that energy
come up through your veins.
473
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,140
Rule number one of
dancing is don't give
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a damn what anybody thinks.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
476
00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,904
Can you do it tighter
in the middle there, baby?
477
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,700
Hey, man.
478
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,156
Thank you.
479
00:25:07,156 --> 00:25:08,132
How you doing?
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
481
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In 1997, I moved
into my own place,
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first time living by myself.
483
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:30,170
And I bought this
dry erase board.
484
00:25:30,170 --> 00:25:32,610
I mapped it out a
weekly schedule.
485
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Sunday at the top, it
said, take over The Church.
486
00:25:35,330 --> 00:25:38,628
And then you'd go down to
Thursday, take over the church,
487
00:25:38,628 --> 00:25:40,170
because I want it
to be the DJ there.
488
00:25:40,170 --> 00:25:43,510
And one night I'm there, and
Leo, the general manager,
489
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is there.
490
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:45,000
And I knew him already.
491
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,322
I had already met him before.
492
00:25:46,322 --> 00:25:47,780
But I would go up
to him like, hey,
493
00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:50,800
man, so when you
want a real goth DJ,
494
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,163
a real DJ here, give me a call
because I felt that there was
495
00:25:54,163 --> 00:25:55,580
a lot of music
that wasn't getting
496
00:25:55,580 --> 00:25:57,920
played that needed to be played.
497
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,120
So I was like, I want
to take over The Church.
498
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:01,948
[MUSIC PLAYING]
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LORD BYRON: I don't
remember the first time
500
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I walked into the space.
501
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,810
I actually cannot remember.
502
00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:13,580
I don't have a very good
memory for a lot of reasons.
503
00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:18,500
What I do remember
was the atmosphere.
504
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,560
It was club lighting.
505
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,960
It was a feeling of
these are my people.
506
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,590
Helen used to be
Don Edwards' wife
507
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:30,810
asked me if I would be
interested to DJ at The Church.
508
00:26:30,810 --> 00:26:33,300
And Don created a night for me.
509
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:36,170
It was called PTL.
510
00:26:36,170 --> 00:26:37,640
Praise the Lord.
511
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,980
And my DJ name and still
is today is Lord Byron.
512
00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:43,430
[MUSIC PLAYING]
513
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:46,890
It was no secret to everybody
about how much I used to drink,
514
00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:50,730
but I did that abusively
while working at The Church.
515
00:26:50,730 --> 00:26:55,190
And my last night at The Church
was during an alcoholic blackout
516
00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:58,700
where I was informed I was
throwing music or records out
517
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:59,810
into the audience.
518
00:26:59,810 --> 00:27:02,870
I ripped Helen's
earring out of her ear.
519
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:05,900
And then friends threw me into a
vehicle and got me out of there.
520
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:07,250
And that was my last night.
521
00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,740
I disconnected from
night light completely
522
00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:21,130
until I ended up
with my fifth DWI,
523
00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:22,380
and that's when I got sober.
524
00:27:38,969 --> 00:27:40,941
[MUSIC PLAYING]
525
00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:47,760
About 3 and 1/2 years
into my sobriety,
526
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,800
I really miss nightlife and not
as a patron, but I wanted to DJ.
527
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,700
I wanted to be a part of that
energy the way that I used to.
528
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,370
I initially approached Don
about the idea of Panopticon.
529
00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:02,420
I said, listen, I'm
sober, and I would
530
00:28:02,420 --> 00:28:05,210
love to have an
opportunity to DJ again.
531
00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:07,650
I'm not even sure he fully
believed me at that time.
532
00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:09,283
I mean, I don't
blame him at all.
533
00:28:09,283 --> 00:28:10,200
I don't blame anybody.
534
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,560
I'm not sure anybody
who knew me really
535
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,410
knew that I could be sober.
536
00:28:15,410 --> 00:28:19,880
And also the early days
of Panopticon, I just--
537
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,290
I was sober.
538
00:28:21,290 --> 00:28:22,320
I wasn't social.
539
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,670
I couldn't talk to anybody.
540
00:28:23,670 --> 00:28:27,280
So I led a very closeted life.
541
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,640
Later I was dating who's
now my husband, Yuri.
542
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,560
And through that relationship
I was able to come out.
543
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,510
After I was able to
bring Gary into the mix
544
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:42,330
and walk into my own club night,
holding the hand of somebody
545
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:44,310
that I truly cared
about, I felt like I
546
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:49,530
could breathe, not just in my
club night, but just in my life.
547
00:28:49,530 --> 00:28:51,900
I was honest with everybody.
548
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,457
And I was so well embraced.
549
00:28:53,457 --> 00:28:54,790
It was like not even a big deal.
550
00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:56,640
I look back and it
was kind of ironic
551
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,640
because I created this night
called Panopticon, certainly
552
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,300
inspired by The Church, which
is a safe space for everybody.
553
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,432
I just still wasn't comfortable
enough in my own skin.
554
00:29:06,432 --> 00:29:07,890
I can see how people
have struggled
555
00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:11,260
with alcohol and drugs
and mental illness,
556
00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:13,385
and it's just not
always the easy thing.
557
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:20,590
Panopticon just evolved into
one of these safe spaces
558
00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:21,560
for people too.
559
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,370
I didn't know it.
560
00:29:22,370 --> 00:29:24,130
I didn't put a sign out there.
561
00:29:24,130 --> 00:29:27,610
It made me feel really
good that Panopticon turned
562
00:29:27,610 --> 00:29:30,790
into this place of non
judgment and anybody
563
00:29:30,790 --> 00:29:33,400
could walk into the
doors of Panopticon
564
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,000
just like at The Church and
feel they could be themselves
565
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,870
without judgment,
without prejudice.
566
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:40,850
[MUSIC PLAYING]
567
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:21,980
It was nice to go
into The Church
568
00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:24,500
because I didn't have
to explain who I was,
569
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,700
and nobody ever asked.
570
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,300
But I could have gone to
The Church from day one
571
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,850
and explained who I
was, and everybody would
572
00:30:32,850 --> 00:30:36,146
have loved me just the same.
573
00:30:36,146 --> 00:30:37,643
[PHONE RINGS]
574
00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:42,270
One day I get a phone call.
575
00:30:42,270 --> 00:30:43,530
It's Leo from The Church.
576
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:46,140
And he's like, hey, you
still want a DJ here?
577
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:49,320
And I'm like, of course.
578
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,400
He's like, all right.
579
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,230
Let's start you the first
Thursday of January.
580
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:56,930
And I'm like, OK, cool.
581
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:57,830
All right.
582
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:59,600
All right, cool.
583
00:30:59,600 --> 00:30:59,990
See you there.
584
00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:02,660
So I'm like, oh,
this is the start.
585
00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:03,457
This is the start.
586
00:31:03,457 --> 00:31:04,790
This is the start of everything.
587
00:31:04,790 --> 00:31:07,748
[MUSIC PLAYING]
588
00:31:29,933 --> 00:31:32,580
LORD BYRON: Joe is absolutely
a master at his craft,
589
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:36,410
and he's great about bringing a
room together and just bringing
590
00:31:36,410 --> 00:31:38,678
power into a dance floor.
591
00:31:38,678 --> 00:31:40,970
JOE VIRUS: I always felt like
I was going to get fired.
592
00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:42,590
That they're trying to
replace me because Don
593
00:31:42,590 --> 00:31:44,160
never really talked
to me before.
594
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,970
I had this weird
intimidation factor with him.
595
00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:50,280
One night, tanked the
room, nobody in there.
596
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:56,300
So I'm like, OK, I'm going
to play Baby Got Back.
597
00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:57,870
Crowd went nuts.
598
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:00,390
And I'm just like,
this is awesome.
599
00:32:00,390 --> 00:32:02,640
So then Clint comes over to
me, and he's our door guy.
600
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,110
Clint comes running
over and says,
601
00:32:04,110 --> 00:32:06,450
hey, Don wants to see
you outside real quick.
602
00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:09,240
And I'm like, shit,
I'm getting fired.
603
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,990
I'm getting fired.
604
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:11,448
Don's calling me
out on the carpet.
605
00:32:11,448 --> 00:32:16,100
I get out there
and he's like, Joe,
606
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,920
what made you decide to
do this Goth hop thing?
607
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,260
Well-- and he's like, well,
whatever you're doing,
608
00:32:25,260 --> 00:32:26,870
keep doing it because
that's awesome.
609
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:31,700
And I'm like, oh, I didn't die.
610
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:32,575
I do remember a
lot of nights where
611
00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:33,950
there wasn't a
packed dance floor
612
00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:36,480
and I'm like waiting for Don to
come running down the stairs.
613
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,313
But you know what?
614
00:32:37,313 --> 00:32:43,250
I never used the dance floor as
a barometer of success for a DJ.
615
00:32:43,250 --> 00:32:46,670
If you're not going for it, and
you're not dumping your dance
616
00:32:46,670 --> 00:32:48,800
floor, you're just not trying.
617
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,100
You can't be afraid
to try something new.
618
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:54,500
I felt like we needed to
inject new life into The Church
619
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:56,550
to start reaching
a broader audience.
620
00:32:56,550 --> 00:32:59,750
Live music, we felt,
was really important.
621
00:32:59,750 --> 00:33:02,560
Man, so many bands.
622
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,554
It was fun.
623
00:33:08,554 --> 00:33:11,240
[MUSIC PLAYING]
624
00:33:41,340 --> 00:33:45,820
Well, I think, first of all,
the history, the location,
625
00:33:45,820 --> 00:33:47,830
the background of all
the bands that played in.
626
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:50,430
I think the more everybody
plays there, you walk in
627
00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:54,300
and it has an aura about
it, the whole feeling.
628
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:57,300
I was very surprised
to see this kind of club
629
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:02,160
with this kind of decoration
and beautiful elements in it.
630
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,250
It's important to
us as a band to give
631
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:08,600
the audience an experience
rather than just put on a show.
632
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,389
It was very easy at The Church
to create the kind of atmosphere
633
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:13,813
that we like to create.
634
00:34:13,813 --> 00:34:15,730
It makes me so happy
just thinking about it,
635
00:34:15,730 --> 00:34:17,520
and I would get so
excited when we had
636
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,500
a show booked for The Church.
637
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:23,580
The Church was just
so spectacular looking.
638
00:34:23,580 --> 00:34:29,699
And it just looks sort of like a
place where vampire royalty were
639
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:31,980
assembling for a ball.
640
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:33,810
I kind of knew
like, OK, this is
641
00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:35,639
one of these clubs
that is going to become
642
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,400
part of our weird history.
643
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,179
It was like a very anything
goes kind of place,
644
00:34:40,179 --> 00:34:41,290
and I love that about it.
645
00:34:41,290 --> 00:34:44,110
All types, all
different flavors.
646
00:34:44,110 --> 00:34:46,157
It was just fun.
647
00:34:46,157 --> 00:34:48,153
[MUSIC PLAYING]
648
00:34:51,650 --> 00:34:54,290
And that's this.
649
00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:57,930
In '86, I told my mom and dad,
I'm like, I want to play synths,
650
00:34:57,930 --> 00:35:01,792
I want to play keyboards, and I
want to sound like Skinny Puppy.
651
00:35:01,792 --> 00:35:03,000
I'll leave it, I'll leave it.
652
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,542
Turn it down.
653
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,560
Let's get this going.
654
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,380
Don Nadler called me
in 2009 about Cevin Key
655
00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:13,310
from skinny puppy
wanting to do a DJ gig,
656
00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:15,420
and I was like, hell,
yeah, jump on it.
657
00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:15,920
Do it.
658
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,420
Yes.
659
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:17,480
Don got us in touch.
660
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,300
So he asked if I
had any synthesizers
661
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:20,480
I could bring to the club.
662
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,340
I think I brought my pro one
out that first-- no, no, I
663
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:25,810
don't think we-- because we
didn't know each other yet.
664
00:35:25,810 --> 00:35:27,140
CEVIN KEY: You did
bring the-- no, it is.
665
00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:28,280
You brought the pro
one the first time.
666
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,988
The first time.
667
00:35:28,988 --> 00:35:31,300
CEVIN KEY: Listen, I
signed your synthesizer
668
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:33,610
and played it in the set.
669
00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:36,790
My hero, my
keyboard hero is going
670
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:40,600
to play my keyboard, that I got
because my keyboard hero plays
671
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,780
that in his studio.
672
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:47,250
Somehow I end up back in
the coat closet with cKevin.
673
00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:49,270
I remember the first
time I brought you out
674
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:50,500
for that first gig.
675
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,590
I took you back into
one of the coat checks
676
00:35:52,590 --> 00:35:55,200
to show you this package I
got from this guy, Danny Blue
677
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,260
from Vancouver.
678
00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:59,390
And he showed some pictures of
you hanging out with Al Nelson.
679
00:35:59,390 --> 00:36:01,390
I think one of your first
girlfriends was there.
680
00:36:01,390 --> 00:36:03,140
And one of the pictures,
and there was a--
681
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:06,122
Oh god, I remember this
now, you showing me that.
682
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:07,830
Because what was really
weird is that guy
683
00:36:07,830 --> 00:36:09,630
you got the pictures
from was the guy that
684
00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:13,950
formed the original underground
scene of late night clubs
685
00:36:13,950 --> 00:36:14,925
and raves in Vancouver.
686
00:36:14,925 --> 00:36:15,448
Oh wow.
687
00:36:15,448 --> 00:36:16,240
I didn't know that.
688
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,780
So I was how is it
you got these pictures.
689
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:21,270
How does a guy in Dallas,
Texas, have pictures of me
690
00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:23,260
from before I was
even in Skinny Puppy.
691
00:36:23,260 --> 00:36:24,430
This is crazy.
692
00:36:24,430 --> 00:36:26,700
And that's when we kind of
like opened up a little bit
693
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:29,510
and started talking.
694
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:31,950
We had him back three
or four other times.
695
00:36:31,950 --> 00:36:35,310
That first time was amazing.
696
00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:36,810
[CHEERING]
697
00:36:36,810 --> 00:36:38,310
He's gonna ask you a question.
698
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:39,510
All right.
699
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:41,800
Do you guys want one more?
700
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,470
Only at The Church.
701
00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:48,800
I can't think of another
Dallas establishment
702
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,220
that could house that type of
energy or that type of event.
703
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:54,770
It's just like, what's
the right size of room
704
00:36:54,770 --> 00:36:57,810
and the right ceiling
height, the right speakers,
705
00:36:57,810 --> 00:37:00,320
the right dance floor.
706
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,740
You had the bass,
you had all the bass.
707
00:37:01,740 --> 00:37:02,705
You had everything.
708
00:37:02,705 --> 00:37:06,170
One more time give
it up for cEvin Key.
709
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:08,840
Telling 13 or 14-year-old me
that I'd be hanging out with
710
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,600
that dude, I wouldn't believe
you in a million years.
711
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,160
So really glad that we
brought him out in 2009,
712
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,380
and that we got to bond
over some silly pictures.
713
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:21,910
And cKevin's just a
really sweet person.
714
00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:27,120
Anytime you can
lure a celebrity
715
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,710
like that in, your
street cred goes way up.
716
00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:31,620
One day I'm sitting
up in the office
717
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,540
and I see a Black
Ferrari pull up
718
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:37,990
with a very tall guy and
a very short blonde girl.
719
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:40,210
And I'm looking at the camera.
720
00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:42,790
And I said, that looks like
Dennis Rodman and Madonna.
721
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:45,570
And they rang the
doorbell, and I let him in.
722
00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:47,700
And I stood over here.
723
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,860
And I said, what
can I do for you?
724
00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:53,400
And they said, well, we
heard this place is for sale.
725
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,510
I said, well, it's not
for sale, but it could be.
726
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:57,400
But we never did the
Lizard Lounge deal.
727
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,580
But there was a deal with
Dennis and Madonna and I.
728
00:38:02,580 --> 00:38:04,660
The Cure came in one
night, played pool.
729
00:38:04,660 --> 00:38:06,910
Pet Shop Boys came in one
night after a concert,
730
00:38:06,910 --> 00:38:09,450
signed a piece of Lizard Land
stationery with their logo.
731
00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:11,160
Trent Reznor was one.
732
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,550
I don't remember
how we did that.
733
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:13,870
I think that would just happen.
734
00:38:13,870 --> 00:38:15,340
And movies were filmed there.
735
00:38:15,340 --> 00:38:17,400
Keys to Tulsa was filmed there.
736
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,580
Queen of the South filmed there.
737
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:22,630
Walker Texas Ranger
filmed there.
738
00:38:25,790 --> 00:38:28,550
I knew that Ozzfest
was coming to town,
739
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:31,200
and Marilyn Manson
was on the tour.
740
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,530
And I knew that he
was engaged to Dita.
741
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:36,200
I knew that I could
book Dita that night,
742
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,750
and we would
probably set the trap
743
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:42,230
to lure Marilyn
Manson into the club.
744
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:44,270
So we were there
on the dance floor
745
00:38:44,270 --> 00:38:48,500
and someone came in from
the smoking porch and said,
746
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:49,710
tour bus has just pulled up.
747
00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:51,900
And I'm like, OK, whatever.
748
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:52,820
But we can no
longer dance anymore
749
00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:54,000
because it's too crowded.
750
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,208
And then we all just start
looking up and we're like,
751
00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:59,360
oh, it's the Marilyn
Manson band, OK.
752
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,610
And that weird moment of like,
we want to dance to your song,
753
00:39:02,610 --> 00:39:03,360
but you're here.
754
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,300
So we're just like, hi.
755
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:06,780
Back in the day,
people would say, well,
756
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:08,640
what are you guys
doing for Halloween?
757
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,180
I said, Halloween.
758
00:39:10,180 --> 00:39:12,600
Well, I mean, is it going
to be a Monster's Ball,
759
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,460
or is it going to be
this, could be that.
760
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:16,990
That's when I got the idea
for Halloween on Halloween.
761
00:39:16,990 --> 00:39:18,820
We do Halloween on Halloween.
762
00:39:18,820 --> 00:39:21,000
And we only do it on
Halloween because every night
763
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,820
is Halloween.
764
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:25,906
But Halloween is Halloween.
765
00:39:25,906 --> 00:39:28,500
Oh, hell yeah,
only on Halloween.
766
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:32,250
We were for many years, the
biggest, baddest Halloween
767
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:32,920
party.
768
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,888
We were always packed.
769
00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:36,430
There was always a line that
went down the street to come in,
770
00:39:36,430 --> 00:39:37,908
always the best costumes.
771
00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:39,450
Doesn't matter
what day of the week
772
00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:41,580
it is, it's still
a Church Night.
773
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:45,900
But Halloween on Halloween,
one of the simplest things
774
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:48,310
we've ever done, and in my
mind, still the most clever
775
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:49,610
because it's Halloween.
776
00:39:49,610 --> 00:39:50,860
You don't have to do anything.
777
00:39:50,860 --> 00:39:52,784
[MUSIC PLAYING]
778
00:40:02,245 --> 00:40:03,620
We would always
try to get people
779
00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:05,620
to dress to come to the
Church, and we're always
780
00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:08,700
looking for ways to get them
to dress and participate.
781
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,360
And we thought it would be fun
to do a fetish ball as a one
782
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,210
off, one time dress up event.
783
00:40:14,210 --> 00:40:17,150
Little did I know that was like
the biggest attraction we'd ever
784
00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:17,650
create.
785
00:40:17,650 --> 00:40:20,870
[MUSIC PLAYING]
786
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:23,660
Hansel Von Quenzer
was the producer
787
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:25,640
of the first fetish ball.
788
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,250
The first show
was real low tech.
789
00:40:29,250 --> 00:40:31,790
The skits that I wrote
were pretty basic
790
00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:33,560
for fetish BDSM stuff.
791
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,970
It mainly consisted of
whipping and flogging,
792
00:40:35,970 --> 00:40:38,623
putting people on the
leash, some toilet stuff.
793
00:40:38,623 --> 00:40:40,790
And then the other part was
me running around trying
794
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:41,760
to find the props.
795
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,250
And then part
three was me trying
796
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:45,950
to find models that were
willing to do this type of thing
797
00:40:45,950 --> 00:40:46,548
on stage.
798
00:40:46,548 --> 00:40:47,840
How much did Hansel tell you?
799
00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:51,870
I mean, not in a sexual way.
800
00:40:51,870 --> 00:40:54,600
I just meant in a legal way.
801
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,380
Oh, I'm already on?
802
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:55,880
Fantastic.
803
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,180
You're going to cut
all this into it.
804
00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:58,250
Great, you're going to use this.
805
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:58,750
Fantastic.
806
00:40:58,750 --> 00:40:59,750
Thanks.
807
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:04,930
OK, so first fetish ball was
exciting and interesting.
808
00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:06,390
So it's maybe 8:00.
809
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:07,560
Doors open at 9:00.
810
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,600
And we have all the
models on stage.
811
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,710
And so we're rehearsing.
812
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:14,100
And Hansel has some big
kind of skit planned out.
813
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,600
I'd showed up to
work on the ball,
814
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,850
and I was working on some
choreography and some props
815
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:18,400
and stuff.
816
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,110
We're kind of trying
to figure it out.
817
00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:22,800
So it's gotten very
complicated and everyone's
818
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,110
a little confused.
819
00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:24,630
We were about
to open the doors.
820
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:27,420
And then the doors
get busted open.
821
00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:28,830
A detective showed up.
822
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:30,100
And he says, I'm here.
823
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,900
I'm looking for
Hansel Von Quenzer.
824
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:34,342
I said, hold on.
825
00:41:34,342 --> 00:41:36,550
He said, hey, Dallas Police
Department is out here.
826
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:37,840
They want to talk to you.
827
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,650
Hansel goes.
828
00:41:38,650 --> 00:41:39,928
We're like, oh.
829
00:41:39,928 --> 00:41:41,220
And so everyone's just looking.
830
00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:43,800
And we're not
knowing what to do.
831
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,510
I'd done a lot of radio
interviews for the fetish ball,
832
00:41:46,510 --> 00:41:49,300
and I guess somebody had tipped
off the police or something.
833
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:51,780
We were five minutes
from opening the doors
834
00:41:51,780 --> 00:41:53,440
for the first
Dallas fetish ball,
835
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,835
and the producer of the event
had just been carted off.
836
00:41:55,835 --> 00:41:57,490
He straight up arrested me.
837
00:41:57,490 --> 00:42:00,160
And if I remember right,
Angela Ryan stepped up.
838
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,690
I just let us all
out in the fashion show
839
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:03,960
and kind of just took over.
840
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,680
I guess they thought if maybe
they arrested the guy that
841
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,500
was producing the ball
that they could maybe
842
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:10,260
stop the ball somehow.
843
00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:11,970
But the ball went on anyways.
844
00:42:11,970 --> 00:42:13,962
[MUSIC PLAYING]
845
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,920
I think that people
are maybe initially drawn
846
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,800
to it just because it's edgy.
847
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,940
Like anyone that's kind
of interested in pushing
848
00:42:33,940 --> 00:42:37,570
the envelope or things
that are taboo like might
849
00:42:37,570 --> 00:42:40,150
start to discover this.
850
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:41,180
Pampa, Texas.
851
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,000
It's up by Amarillo.
852
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,500
I come here every year
just for the fetish ball.
853
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,500
5 and a half hours, six hours?
854
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:51,970
So.
855
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:54,883
When I started the
fetish ball in 99,
856
00:42:54,883 --> 00:42:56,300
for the first three
or four years,
857
00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:57,920
it was predominantly
Church people.
858
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,860
But then it started
to attract people just
859
00:42:59,860 --> 00:43:01,940
from the BDSM fetish community.
860
00:43:01,940 --> 00:43:04,260
And what was the motto that
we talked about earlier,
861
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:06,100
anybody can come.
862
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:08,470
We had an older guy named Craig.
863
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:11,440
And he used to come in
wearing like a banana hammock
864
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,690
and nipple clamps with
weights, and he used
865
00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:15,500
to come to the fetish ball.
866
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:16,722
We had a guy who used
to wear a diaper.
867
00:43:16,722 --> 00:43:18,430
You want to wear a
diaper, wear a diaper.
868
00:43:18,430 --> 00:43:20,990
You want to live out your
fetishes, you can do that here.
869
00:43:20,990 --> 00:43:23,140
So what kind of robot are you?
870
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:25,420
I'm an assembly
line robot, actually.
871
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:26,620
This is a sex robot.
872
00:43:26,620 --> 00:43:27,355
A sex robot?
873
00:43:27,355 --> 00:43:28,450
Oh, look at that.
874
00:43:28,450 --> 00:43:30,740
Well, now, easy now.
875
00:43:30,740 --> 00:43:32,470
That is the Peter.
876
00:43:32,470 --> 00:43:35,373
That Peter gets a little red
when you rub it that way.
877
00:43:35,373 --> 00:43:36,790
Of course, when
we first started
878
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:40,220
bringing in rubber doll
in the mid to late 2000,
879
00:43:40,220 --> 00:43:44,900
she was really big because
she was very attractive.
880
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,240
She wore all latex,
and she would
881
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,340
shoot this confetti
popper that would
882
00:43:48,340 --> 00:43:50,550
be like the orgasm of the show.
883
00:43:54,860 --> 00:43:57,740
I think that when someone
goes to a fetish ball like that,
884
00:43:57,740 --> 00:43:59,490
there's so many elements going.
885
00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:00,990
There's so much going on.
886
00:44:00,990 --> 00:44:06,830
And then you add drinks to
that, and the parties going on.
887
00:44:06,830 --> 00:44:09,403
And that's the success of it.
888
00:44:09,403 --> 00:44:10,820
HANSEL VON QUENZER:
We didn't want
889
00:44:10,820 --> 00:44:13,580
people to just show up and
watch the fetish people perform
890
00:44:13,580 --> 00:44:14,340
on stage.
891
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:18,830
I wanted people to show up
and actually participate.
892
00:44:18,830 --> 00:44:22,240
I am the mistress
of the wheel of pain.
893
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:23,340
It's a fun game.
894
00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:24,930
Who doesn't love games?
895
00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:28,280
You come up on stage, and
you're up there under the lights
896
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,660
and everybody's looking at you.
897
00:44:29,660 --> 00:44:33,630
And you spin the big wheel, and
ooh, what's it going to land on?
898
00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:34,920
What's it going to be?
899
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,690
Ooh.
900
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:37,230
We had the wheel of pain.
901
00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:38,970
We had the flogging bench.
902
00:44:38,970 --> 00:44:40,290
I set up a lube booth.
903
00:44:40,290 --> 00:44:41,750
And then once that
happened, people
904
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:44,238
started coming up with all
sorts of other ideas like,
905
00:44:44,238 --> 00:44:46,280
you'd toss the ring and
it would land on a dildo,
906
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,840
and you would win a prize.
907
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,300
Every little nook and cranny
that you went into, there
908
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:51,600
was something happening.
909
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,660
You turn around,
like there's people
910
00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:56,170
trampling some dude in a cage.
911
00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:59,100
Turn around over here,
someone's getting tied up.
912
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:00,820
There's just people
dancing everywhere.
913
00:45:00,820 --> 00:45:03,220
I mean, it was the best
party I'd ever been to.
914
00:45:03,220 --> 00:45:06,112
[MUSIC PLAYING]
915
00:45:25,392 --> 00:45:29,320
(SINGING) Under my skin
916
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,740
Under my skin
917
00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:34,470
Under my skin
918
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:36,575
Under my skin
919
00:45:36,575 --> 00:45:37,940
Under my skin
920
00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:39,330
I want to know where we're going
921
00:45:39,330 --> 00:45:40,860
I want to know where you've been
922
00:45:40,860 --> 00:45:44,650
You want to know what it
takes to get under my skin
923
00:45:44,650 --> 00:45:46,170
I want to know where we're going
924
00:45:46,170 --> 00:45:47,770
I want to know where you've been
925
00:45:47,770 --> 00:45:51,350
You want to know what it
takes to get under my skin
926
00:45:51,350 --> 00:45:53,755
[CHEERING]
927
00:45:56,650 --> 00:46:01,510
S&M isn't necessarily
just about pain.
928
00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:06,110
Pain is just one little
stop on that spectrum.
929
00:46:06,110 --> 00:46:07,730
There's bondage.
930
00:46:07,730 --> 00:46:09,910
There's sensory play.
931
00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:14,770
S&M is very much a form of
therapy for a lot of people.
932
00:46:14,770 --> 00:46:15,880
For me, it's not sexual.
933
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,120
And it is to a lot of people.
934
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:18,800
And I understand that.
935
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,300
And I explain to them whenever
I first start playing,
936
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:21,820
it's not going to be that way.
937
00:46:21,820 --> 00:46:23,703
Safe, sane and consensual.
938
00:46:23,703 --> 00:46:25,870
And if someone doesn't want
to play, you don't play.
939
00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:29,980
A client of mine, he was a
large, muscular, like football
940
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:31,730
player type build.
941
00:46:31,730 --> 00:46:34,600
And I dressed him up
like a little schoolgirl.
942
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,510
And I put on my little
latex nun outfit
943
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:40,340
with my giant flaming
purple strap on,
944
00:46:40,340 --> 00:46:42,310
and I tied him to
the stripper pole.
945
00:46:42,310 --> 00:46:44,680
And I made him suck my cock.
946
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,960
And I probably threw
him down on the floor
947
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,880
and humped his little ass too,
like humped him like a bitch
948
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,490
because he was a bitch.
949
00:46:54,490 --> 00:46:58,276
So I made him my bitch right
there in front of everyone.
950
00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:10,860
It was 2006, and I went on the
very first Girls of the Church
951
00:47:10,860 --> 00:47:12,100
Calendar Night.
952
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:16,530
Every single person was
like their own runway.
953
00:47:16,530 --> 00:47:21,455
It was just like an
eye gasm of life.
954
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,800
The first opportunity
I had to actually model
955
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:29,230
was at The Church.
956
00:47:29,230 --> 00:47:32,880
One of my friends, she just
kind of came up to me one night,
957
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,410
and I should introduce
you to somebody.
958
00:47:35,410 --> 00:47:36,550
Do you know Hansel?
959
00:47:36,550 --> 00:47:37,560
And I'm like, no.
960
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,930
She led me over to
him and introduced me.
961
00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:42,450
And she was like, you
need to put him in a show.
962
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:45,973
He told me to get on his
site, make a profile.
963
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,180
I think we actually did a
photoshoot at Hot Topic.
964
00:47:58,150 --> 00:48:00,650
Back then everybody used to
hang out in the girls' bathroom.
965
00:48:00,650 --> 00:48:02,358
You met everybody in
the girls' bathroom.
966
00:48:02,358 --> 00:48:03,470
Hansel came in there.
967
00:48:03,470 --> 00:48:06,260
I guess he was looking for
me and he asked about, Hey,
968
00:48:06,260 --> 00:48:08,660
do you want to do fetish ball?
969
00:48:08,660 --> 00:48:11,630
And it just felt I
was just like, yes.
970
00:48:11,630 --> 00:48:13,550
[MUSIC PLAYING]
971
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,195
Walking across the stage for
the first time is amazing.
972
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:29,440
When it came down for my walk
and hearing them, it was like,
973
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,948
this is where I belong.
974
00:48:31,948 --> 00:48:34,702
[CHEERING]
975
00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:39,230
Will, he was the photographer of
The Church for years and years.
976
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:42,640
And he said, hey, you need to
enter the Girls Church audition
977
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,280
thing.
978
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,420
I'm like, what are you
talking about, it's girls.
979
00:48:45,420 --> 00:48:46,610
I'm not going to do that.
980
00:48:46,610 --> 00:48:47,262
I'm a boy.
981
00:48:47,262 --> 00:48:48,220
I'm not going to do it.
982
00:48:48,220 --> 00:48:50,410
And he's like,
no, there's people
983
00:48:50,410 --> 00:48:52,570
who would love for
you to be involved.
984
00:48:52,570 --> 00:48:53,960
And they think you should.
985
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,810
You represent the church.
986
00:48:55,810 --> 00:48:59,870
I really like that he
didn't fit into one category.
987
00:48:59,870 --> 00:49:02,710
And to say Girls of
The Church back then
988
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:06,160
and JBabe being a part
of it was groundbreaking.
989
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,320
They did choose me because
I do represent The Church.
990
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,980
And I do know that
there were people
991
00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:18,190
who was upset I was a part of it
because I don't have a vagina.
992
00:49:18,190 --> 00:49:22,460
But I don't think that
is a problem at all.
993
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:29,500
The calendar represents
the faces who are there.
994
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:34,800
DON NEDLER: Well, when we first
began doing Church events,
995
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,250
I wanted to come up
with a positioning line
996
00:49:38,250 --> 00:49:41,670
to let people know
a few words that
997
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:44,610
sort of describes who we are.
998
00:49:44,610 --> 00:49:48,460
And the words we chose were
enter without prejudice.
999
00:49:57,180 --> 00:50:00,810
Without prejudice
means coming as you are
1000
00:50:00,810 --> 00:50:04,590
and not giving a fuck
about anybody else.
1001
00:50:04,590 --> 00:50:06,250
Once you step
through these doors,
1002
00:50:06,250 --> 00:50:09,817
you cannot come in here and be
awful to people for the things
1003
00:50:09,817 --> 00:50:12,150
that they like or the way
that they look or the way that
1004
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:14,690
they're dancing or
anything like that.
1005
00:50:14,690 --> 00:50:17,140
Try to understand where
they're coming from,
1006
00:50:17,140 --> 00:50:21,450
maybe understand what they're
going through in life.
1007
00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:23,438
Come in without any
preconceived ideas
1008
00:50:23,438 --> 00:50:24,730
about what you're going to see.
1009
00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:26,800
Don't be judgmental
about anybody.
1010
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,568
Nobody's going to be
judgmental about you.
1011
00:50:28,568 --> 00:50:30,360
HANSEL VON QUENZER:
Having that as a slogan
1012
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,700
is sort of a
reinforcement of the fact
1013
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,960
that you're allowed to come
here and be who you want to be,
1014
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,480
not how you have
to pretend to be
1015
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,560
when you're around your family.
1016
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,000
In my 9:00 to 5:00, I
can't dress the way I do.
1017
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,850
The real me comes
out at The Church.
1018
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:47,730
Enter that prejudice is
exactly what it sounds like.
1019
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:51,990
If you want to be prejudiced
towards somebody dressing up
1020
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:55,260
or the bondage or
everything that everybody
1021
00:50:55,260 --> 00:51:00,440
does in this scene, then
you're don't need to be here.
1022
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:00,940
Basically.
1023
00:51:00,940 --> 00:51:01,440
Yeah.
1024
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,266
Get the fuck out but in
a nice way, with a smile.
1025
00:51:06,266 --> 00:51:08,210
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1026
00:51:21,340 --> 00:51:23,290
The vampire
aesthetic and concept
1027
00:51:23,290 --> 00:51:26,260
before it became a goth
thing was about our inability
1028
00:51:26,260 --> 00:51:30,430
to understand death and
change and transformation.
1029
00:51:30,430 --> 00:51:33,310
Being a trans woman who
identifies with the vamp
1030
00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:35,180
aesthetic and like
I'm transitioning,
1031
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:38,500
I'm finding something new, I'm
becoming something different,
1032
00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:41,820
it very much blended
into who I was.
1033
00:51:41,820 --> 00:51:45,450
I think I must have first found
the goth culture in probably
1034
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:46,535
1997.
1035
00:51:46,535 --> 00:51:47,910
It was an interesting
year for me
1036
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:49,357
because my father
had passed away.
1037
00:51:49,357 --> 00:51:50,940
And I had a different
group of friends
1038
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:52,950
that were the Goth,
spooky kind, and they
1039
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:56,400
were able to help me understand
that death is a part of life,
1040
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,925
and you don't have to
be alone in that moment.
1041
00:52:02,170 --> 00:52:05,140
One of the things
that I had to learn
1042
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:07,810
when I was doing my therapy
when I started transition
1043
00:52:07,810 --> 00:52:10,600
was my therapist said,
make a list of things
1044
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,580
that you want for
yourself and you want
1045
00:52:12,580 --> 00:52:15,260
in a partner, essentially
a path for me.
1046
00:52:15,260 --> 00:52:18,360
And that path involves helping
others because others are there
1047
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:18,860
for me.
1048
00:52:18,860 --> 00:52:20,900
I want to pay it forward.
1049
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:21,130
And you roast the seeds.
1050
00:52:21,130 --> 00:52:24,100
Well, I've been
eating the pumpkin.
1051
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,190
You can cook these.
1052
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:31,240
So the Dance Vampire Court is
the only vampire court nonprofit
1053
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,150
in the country, and we
run great charity events
1054
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:35,890
and be a source
for the community
1055
00:52:35,890 --> 00:52:40,660
to be able to show we're here,
we're doing good for others.
1056
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:43,150
We all started at The Church
with the Bleeding Hearts Ball
1057
00:52:43,150 --> 00:52:46,250
so many years ago.
1058
00:52:46,250 --> 00:52:48,670
The first time I went
authentically as Danielle
1059
00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:51,660
to The Church, it
was kind of a blur.
1060
00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:53,710
It was kind of anxiety riddled.
1061
00:52:53,710 --> 00:52:56,390
I'm in there touching my
makeup in the women's restroom.
1062
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:58,360
There was a girl on a
bench there complaining
1063
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,800
about her boyfriend,
and we were just
1064
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,790
like giving each other advice
and gassing each other up,
1065
00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:03,170
going, oh, you look amazing.
1066
00:53:03,170 --> 00:53:06,562
This is a place where you
can relax, vent, touch up
1067
00:53:06,562 --> 00:53:08,770
your makeup, and always get
good, healthy compliments
1068
00:53:08,770 --> 00:53:09,530
from other women.
1069
00:53:09,530 --> 00:53:13,310
And that is something that was
very reaffirming gender-wise,
1070
00:53:13,310 --> 00:53:15,420
which wasn't taken in a bad way.
1071
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:21,160
When your slogan is
end without prejudice,
1072
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,710
it makes it feel like you're
able to be yourself there.
1073
00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:26,430
And that was what I needed
at a point in my life.
1074
00:53:26,430 --> 00:53:28,740
And moving forward
with my vampire court,
1075
00:53:28,740 --> 00:53:29,997
we're looking for a new venue.
1076
00:53:29,997 --> 00:53:32,580
We're finding new venues like
we can do a Bleeding Hearts Ball
1077
00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:34,300
here, but it's not The Church.
1078
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:38,340
And there's just-- there's
so much of the ambience
1079
00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:40,482
of the location that
we don't recognize
1080
00:53:40,482 --> 00:53:41,690
that we miss until it's gone.
1081
00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:55,970
'98, my friend Chris Metz came
in and Chris Metz looked like
1082
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:57,990
the villain from The Crow.
1083
00:53:57,990 --> 00:54:00,570
The long flowing black hair.
1084
00:54:00,570 --> 00:54:02,000
Beautiful, dude.
1085
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,580
One night, Chris walks into the
club holding a brown paper bag.
1086
00:54:05,580 --> 00:54:07,607
He had shaved his head.
1087
00:54:07,607 --> 00:54:09,440
He's like, hey, man, I
want you to have this
1088
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:10,857
because I don't
need this anymore.
1089
00:54:10,857 --> 00:54:11,977
I'm like, OK.
1090
00:54:11,977 --> 00:54:13,560
And I didn't know
what was in the bag.
1091
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,230
I opened up the bag.
1092
00:54:15,230 --> 00:54:19,130
The rarest, most hard to find
Sisters of Mercy merchandise,
1093
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:23,235
like picture disks on
vinyl, CD box sets.
1094
00:54:23,235 --> 00:54:25,860
And I'm like, dude, this is like
your prized possessions, dude.
1095
00:54:25,860 --> 00:54:26,880
I can't take this from you.
1096
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,690
This is your stuff.
1097
00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:29,790
I don't want-- I
can't take this.
1098
00:54:29,790 --> 00:54:31,140
Dude, you have to take it.
1099
00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:33,200
I don't need it anymore.
1100
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,480
So that night he comes in and
hangs out with me in the booth.
1101
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,260
I had met this girl
before he walked in.
1102
00:54:39,260 --> 00:54:40,520
Her name was Chris.
1103
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,910
I introduced her to Chris,
and they started talking.
1104
00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:48,800
I get home, I do my
nightly ritual, go to bed.
1105
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,340
I get woken up a
couple hours later.
1106
00:54:50,340 --> 00:54:52,700
It's the girl Chris.
1107
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,830
Joe, Chris is dead.
1108
00:54:55,830 --> 00:54:56,250
And I'm like, what the fuck?
1109
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:56,938
What?
1110
00:54:56,938 --> 00:54:58,230
What do you mean Chris is dead?
1111
00:54:58,230 --> 00:55:01,220
She goes, his mom called me
because she found my phone
1112
00:55:01,220 --> 00:55:02,960
number in his jacket.
1113
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,140
She walked in the room,
and he shot himself.
1114
00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:07,870
And I was like, what the fuck?
1115
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Sorry.
1116
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,390
I don't think goth
has ever driven anyone
1117
00:55:19,390 --> 00:55:21,340
to kill themselves.
1118
00:55:21,340 --> 00:55:25,000
But I think that people
with suicidal ideation
1119
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,100
might very well seek out goth.
1120
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,230
So I think that's where
the crossroads are.
1121
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:33,820
I don't think the crossroads
are someone who's bright
1122
00:55:33,820 --> 00:55:36,400
and chipper suddenly
goes to a goth club
1123
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,910
and starts wearing
black lipstick
1124
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:40,190
and then suddenly is suicidal.
1125
00:55:40,190 --> 00:55:41,710
I just don't think that happens.
1126
00:55:41,710 --> 00:55:45,130
When I was 17 years
old, living in a town
1127
00:55:45,130 --> 00:55:47,330
where people told
me on a daily basis,
1128
00:55:47,330 --> 00:55:51,910
you should kill yourself,
do this town a favor
1129
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:53,800
and kill yourself.
1130
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,840
Do the school a favor
and kill yourself.
1131
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,290
Do your family a favor
and kill yourself.
1132
00:55:59,290 --> 00:56:03,200
And not ever having met anyone
from outside of that town,
1133
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,120
I just assumed that
everyone else in the world
1134
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,620
was like the people in my town.
1135
00:56:09,620 --> 00:56:14,920
And subsequently I felt that I
was like they said, a weirdo,
1136
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,840
and I didn't deserve to live.
1137
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,450
People who are depressed
who find the goth scene,
1138
00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:23,880
if their experience
is anything like mine,
1139
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,820
where you spend a lot of
your time dancing in a club,
1140
00:56:26,820 --> 00:56:30,810
feeling really free
to express yourself,
1141
00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:33,350
being surrounded by people
who are also really creative
1142
00:56:33,350 --> 00:56:36,230
and also dressed
really wildly, who
1143
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:38,600
are open minded and
accept you the way
1144
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,940
that you are will
more likely than not,
1145
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:46,800
I think, put aside the
thoughts of suicide,
1146
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,530
realizing that there are
good people in this world
1147
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:50,720
and there is fun to
be had in this world
1148
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,520
and there is beauty to be found.
1149
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,360
And if there's one thing that
I have learned from performing
1150
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,300
here year after year
after year, if there's
1151
00:56:59,300 --> 00:57:04,700
one thing I've come to expect
and to always, always feel
1152
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:10,370
is the incredible sense of
understanding and togetherness
1153
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:13,800
that this community
has and acceptance.
1154
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,390
So New Year's Eve, I'm there,
and DJing in the DJ booth,
1155
00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:22,700
and I hear some buzzing over
here with my friends talking.
1156
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:25,740
And I heard my friend
Jasper's name get brought up.
1157
00:57:25,740 --> 00:57:28,380
And I'm like, hey,
where is that fool, man?
1158
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:30,380
He'd be the first person
to come up here and try
1159
00:57:30,380 --> 00:57:31,338
to kiss me at midnight.
1160
00:57:31,338 --> 00:57:32,995
Where is where's Jasper at?
1161
00:57:32,995 --> 00:57:34,640
Oh, you haven't heard.
1162
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,300
And I'm like, what?
1163
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:39,800
And it's like, he died.
1164
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,800
He ODed.
1165
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,170
And I'm like, what?
1166
00:57:47,222 --> 00:57:48,930
LORD BYRON: Anybody
that knew Jasper just
1167
00:57:48,930 --> 00:57:54,810
knew he was one of the coolest
people you'd ever want to know.
1168
00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:57,640
He knew everything
about alternative music.
1169
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,700
He was a musician himself.
1170
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:01,385
He was just a beautiful person.
1171
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,240
JOE VIRUS: After
Jasper had passed away.
1172
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,140
I kind of learned the
phrasing of these.
1173
00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:13,860
Did you hear about, or have
you heard about, or whatever,
1174
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:16,620
that usually meant did you
hear that so-and-so died.
1175
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:19,900
After a lot of my friends
died, I said, fuck this,
1176
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:21,400
I don't want to
lose more people.
1177
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,600
I don't want to be close to
anybody because everybody dies,
1178
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,800
and I can't handle it.
1179
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,550
And I'm having a hard
time dealing with it.
1180
00:58:29,550 --> 00:58:33,120
It's hard going to a club
trying to have a party when
1181
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,100
the people you used to party
with at that same club are gone.
1182
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,720
Everybody in this picture is
dead except for me and this guy
1183
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,640
here with the skull mask.
1184
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,420
This is my friend Brad,
who died of cancer.
1185
00:58:45,420 --> 00:58:49,840
And these two took their
own lives separately,
1186
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,470
different times, years apart.
1187
00:58:53,470 --> 00:58:57,340
I could picture my friends
where they would be hanging out.
1188
00:58:57,340 --> 00:59:01,120
And every once in
a while, there'll
1189
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,750
be some guy with a leather
jacket on and bleach blonde hair
1190
00:59:04,750 --> 00:59:06,480
walk by, and I
think it's Jasper.
1191
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:07,650
Like, boom, that's Jasper.
1192
00:59:13,549 --> 00:59:16,440
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1193
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:02,610
When you start talking
about supernatural stuff,
1194
01:00:02,610 --> 01:00:05,540
we've had countless
film crews of people
1195
01:00:05,540 --> 01:00:08,180
that come to measure
ghost sightings that
1196
01:00:08,180 --> 01:00:10,100
have come through the building.
1197
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:13,670
Big John, the head
of security there
1198
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:18,680
claims to have seen the
spirit on certain nights.
1199
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,430
I didn't actually take it.
1200
01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:22,640
One of my staff members took it.
1201
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,100
He just took the picture
because of how the lights
1202
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:27,350
were shining through the smoke.
1203
01:00:27,350 --> 01:00:31,580
And then he looked at the
picture after he took it.
1204
01:00:31,580 --> 01:00:34,100
And that's when
he saw that image.
1205
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:35,485
And he kind of freaked out.
1206
01:00:44,575 --> 01:00:45,950
It was at the
end of the night.
1207
01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:47,110
We were all outside.
1208
01:00:47,110 --> 01:00:49,250
And me and Joe were
standing there talking.
1209
01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:51,680
Club closes, Big John leaves.
1210
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,460
He's the last guy.
1211
01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:54,440
He had the keys,
locked everything up.
1212
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,510
And Clint and I are talking
and all of a sudden, we hear.
1213
01:00:58,510 --> 01:01:02,710
And we were like, did we lock
somebody in the building?
1214
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:07,300
And we're like, huh?
1215
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:08,900
OK, second time.
1216
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:10,210
And we're like.
1217
01:01:10,210 --> 01:01:11,840
He gets on the
phone, hey, Big John,
1218
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,940
can you come back
here with the keys?
1219
01:01:12,940 --> 01:01:14,000
We lock somebody
in the building,
1220
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,000
I hear somebody banging.
1221
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,292
And it was very, very loud.
1222
01:01:16,292 --> 01:01:17,750
It wasn't like just
a little knock.
1223
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:20,270
It was straight up the
whole door was shaking.
1224
01:01:20,270 --> 01:01:22,720
Someone was definitely
inside a building.
1225
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,153
Joe didn't want to go in.
1226
01:01:24,153 --> 01:01:25,820
He was like, no, I'm
not going in there.
1227
01:01:25,820 --> 01:01:27,800
JOE VIRUS: I'm like, I'm
going to step outside.
1228
01:01:27,620 --> 01:01:28,850
I'll catch anybody
if they run out.
1229
01:01:28,850 --> 01:01:30,550
And me and John
searched the building.
1230
01:01:30,550 --> 01:01:32,000
And we shouted out.
1231
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,250
We searched every corner
upstairs, offices,
1232
01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:38,459
dressing room, and literally
did not find anybody in there.
1233
01:01:38,459 --> 01:01:40,415
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1234
01:02:00,990 --> 01:02:03,390
This was a stair line.
1235
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:06,425
So at this level was
the DJ booth right here.
1236
01:02:06,425 --> 01:02:07,540
You see this black line.
1237
01:02:07,540 --> 01:02:11,500
So coming out to here, this
was the staircase going up.
1238
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:12,580
And so the DJ
booth is over here.
1239
01:02:12,580 --> 01:02:13,920
So I would be DJing.
1240
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,170
And out of the corner of
my eye, I would see a kid.
1241
01:02:17,170 --> 01:02:20,290
And I remember the
like a white t-shirt.
1242
01:02:20,290 --> 01:02:21,200
I couldn't see hair.
1243
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,900
I didn't see the hair color,
but blue jeans, like big baggy
1244
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:26,770
jeans, run up the stairs.
1245
01:02:26,770 --> 01:02:28,650
And when he got to
this section here
1246
01:02:28,650 --> 01:02:30,870
would trip and then
continue running
1247
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:32,940
and disappear halfway
up the staircase.
1248
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:35,370
Across the way, I would
see somebody standing
1249
01:02:35,370 --> 01:02:39,300
in front of the doorway going
up into the dressing room,
1250
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:43,420
and I would see a figure with
long gray or blonde hair,
1251
01:02:43,420 --> 01:02:45,690
just all in black
standing up there.
1252
01:02:45,690 --> 01:02:47,970
And nobody would be there.
1253
01:02:47,970 --> 01:02:54,450
One of the popular ghost stories
here was an old guy in a top hat
1254
01:02:54,450 --> 01:02:56,820
and a suit sitting at a table.
1255
01:02:56,820 --> 01:03:00,300
And he was always
there writing poetry.
1256
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:02,708
But that was really a
guy named Christopher.
1257
01:03:02,708 --> 01:03:04,250
I've never seen
a ghost in my life.
1258
01:03:04,250 --> 01:03:05,792
I mean, my theory
on that is if there
1259
01:03:05,792 --> 01:03:08,890
is another world that
we're not part of,
1260
01:03:08,890 --> 01:03:11,900
it's like it's on a
different radio frequency.
1261
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,895
And there are those
of us that are not.
1262
01:03:22,780 --> 01:03:26,200
JOE VIRUS: I feel that maybe
it's a residual haunting there.
1263
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,250
Like when you listen to
a tape, a cassette tape,
1264
01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:30,430
if you recorded something
that had a heavy bass tone
1265
01:03:30,430 --> 01:03:33,770
or like a kick drum, that was
really hard in this one point,
1266
01:03:33,770 --> 01:03:36,550
and then you record over
that, you'll get a drop out
1267
01:03:36,550 --> 01:03:38,430
of that kick drum again.
1268
01:03:42,930 --> 01:03:45,250
I kind think that might
be it with the building.
1269
01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:47,590
Like maybe the way
that the couches were,
1270
01:03:47,590 --> 01:03:50,760
maybe the material of the
wallpaper, maybe the bricks
1271
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:54,270
and the wood itself
captured some--
1272
01:03:54,270 --> 01:03:57,720
and the kid falling, that
might have been his like--
1273
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,850
one of his biggest embarrassing
moments of his life.
1274
01:04:00,850 --> 01:04:02,730
And maybe that
registered like a kick
1275
01:04:02,730 --> 01:04:06,305
drum on the magnetic
field of the club.
1276
01:04:10,295 --> 01:04:12,670
There are so many people
through, in and out those doors.
1277
01:04:12,670 --> 01:04:16,810
And so many people with
heightened emotional responses
1278
01:04:16,810 --> 01:04:18,280
to things going on.
1279
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,335
All those kind of
things are boom.
1280
01:04:22,570 --> 01:04:23,140
Yeah.
1281
01:04:23,140 --> 01:04:23,690
Yeah.
1282
01:04:23,690 --> 01:04:25,982
You just keep feeding it and
feeding it and feeding it.
1283
01:04:25,982 --> 01:04:27,760
It's like a
rechargeable battery.
1284
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,270
And one night I'm
in the hallway here.
1285
01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:33,340
This used to be just a
hallway with double doors
1286
01:04:33,340 --> 01:04:36,490
that swung into this
whole big area back here.
1287
01:04:36,490 --> 01:04:38,330
So I'm here talking to--
1288
01:04:47,204 --> 01:04:48,770
CAMERA MAN: What's going on?
1289
01:04:48,770 --> 01:04:50,337
I heard something.
1290
01:04:50,337 --> 01:04:51,420
CAMERA MAN: What was that?
1291
01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:52,690
I don't know.
1292
01:04:52,690 --> 01:04:54,490
It sounded like it
was right there.
1293
01:04:54,490 --> 01:04:56,440
I don't see anybody or anything.
1294
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,500
I hear footsteps.
1295
01:04:57,500 --> 01:04:58,250
That's so weird.
1296
01:04:58,250 --> 01:05:00,980
There's nothing you can
hear footsteps in here.
1297
01:05:00,980 --> 01:05:02,200
OK.
1298
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,634
All right.
1299
01:05:03,634 --> 01:05:05,500
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1300
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:11,760
So several years
ago, I met the club
1301
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,542
and I had a guest DJ spinning.
1302
01:05:13,542 --> 01:05:15,750
And I walked outside to get
some fresh air because it
1303
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:16,810
gets stuffy in there.
1304
01:05:16,810 --> 01:05:18,160
You get the fog machine going.
1305
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,940
And so I walked
outside, but there's
1306
01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:25,650
this guy, this like drunk
guy, didn't look Goth at all.
1307
01:05:25,650 --> 01:05:28,600
And he says, Hey, DJ Virus.
1308
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,153
Hey, man.
1309
01:05:29,153 --> 01:05:30,820
And he comes and puts
his arm around me.
1310
01:05:30,820 --> 01:05:31,990
And I'm like, what's up?
1311
01:05:31,990 --> 01:05:34,253
And he's like, I just
bought this place, man.
1312
01:05:34,253 --> 01:05:35,670
And I got a question,
what are you
1313
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:39,910
going to do when I
bulldoze your club?
1314
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:42,700
And I'm like, who the
fuck are you, dude?
1315
01:05:42,700 --> 01:05:43,550
Don't be an asshole.
1316
01:05:43,550 --> 01:05:44,870
I don't fucking know you.
1317
01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:45,413
What?
1318
01:05:45,413 --> 01:05:47,800
Who the fuck-- get
in your fucking limo.
1319
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,420
Take your fucking
hooker off with you.
1320
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:50,150
I yelled at him.
1321
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:51,970
He got in his limo and took off.
1322
01:05:51,970 --> 01:05:55,640
And Don called me up and said,
hey, what did this guy say?
1323
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,640
What'd he you look like?
1324
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,260
And I described him to him.
1325
01:05:58,260 --> 01:06:02,420
And he's like, OK, so yeah, this
guy did-- he did buy the club,
1326
01:06:02,420 --> 01:06:03,970
but we're not going anywhere.
1327
01:06:03,970 --> 01:06:07,630
We're not going anywhere.
1328
01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:10,690
He would come in unannounced
in the middle of the day
1329
01:06:10,690 --> 01:06:15,160
with investors trying to sell
the building, which is not cool.
1330
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,270
First of all, it's a
violation of our lease.
1331
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:18,350
It's a four wall lease.
1332
01:06:18,350 --> 01:06:21,820
We're responsible for everything
from the roof to the foundation.
1333
01:06:21,820 --> 01:06:23,860
I couldn't buy the
Lizard Lounge property.
1334
01:06:23,860 --> 01:06:26,500
The only defense
posture I could take
1335
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:31,100
was to buy the property adjacent
and stop any development.
1336
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:33,540
But I knew I couldn't
stop it forever.
1337
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:36,280
I just knew I
could slow it down.
1338
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,110
When Westdale
bought the building,
1339
01:06:38,110 --> 01:06:40,100
we were afraid they
wouldn't work with us.
1340
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:40,670
But they did.
1341
01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:42,753
But they said, we're
building a high rise for Uber
1342
01:06:42,753 --> 01:06:45,610
across the street, and we're
going to take your parking lots.
1343
01:06:45,610 --> 01:06:47,410
And they were going
to use the parking
1344
01:06:47,410 --> 01:06:51,400
lots as staging for the
construction of the high rise.
1345
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,380
I agreed to it because I didn't
want to lose Lizard Lounge,
1346
01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:56,840
but I knew at that point
our days were numbered.
1347
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,744
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1348
01:07:01,130 --> 01:07:04,230
I was in the office and I got a
phone call from Onisha Rigney.
1349
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:05,930
She was the original
landlord's wife.
1350
01:07:05,930 --> 01:07:09,260
She was the designer who did
the grand crystal palace dinner
1351
01:07:09,260 --> 01:07:09,812
theater.
1352
01:07:09,812 --> 01:07:11,270
She called me and
said, Don, I need
1353
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:12,437
to come get that chandelier.
1354
01:07:12,437 --> 01:07:15,630
I'm going to sell it and leave
the money to my godchild.
1355
01:07:15,630 --> 01:07:17,570
I said, you can have
it, but I need time
1356
01:07:17,570 --> 01:07:21,200
to replace it because I
had to scramble to explain
1357
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,470
to people why someone's
ripping the heart and soul out
1358
01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:25,802
of our nightclub.
1359
01:07:25,802 --> 01:07:27,260
The one thing around
here you could
1360
01:07:27,260 --> 01:07:29,430
do-- you could break a chair.
1361
01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:31,700
You could break a window.
1362
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:31,940
Railing.
1363
01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:33,510
You could break a rail.
1364
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:35,520
And I'm probably just
going to ask you to leave.
1365
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,840
But the chandelier
was a touchy subject.
1366
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:39,650
Yes.
1367
01:07:39,650 --> 01:07:42,470
That's the only thing that's
remained constant in the club
1368
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:44,730
and the pinnacle
of the club itself.
1369
01:07:44,730 --> 01:07:47,880
Like if the club was a church,
that would sort of in a way,
1370
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,980
be the altar because everybody
dances under that chandelier.
1371
01:07:51,980 --> 01:07:55,950
The chandelier was somewhat
of the mascot of The Church.
1372
01:07:55,950 --> 01:07:58,680
Even though it didn't run
around and pump people up,
1373
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,800
it sure did reflect
the lights nicely.
1374
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,400
Who else can
say that they were
1375
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,148
clubbing underneath
that kind of opulence?
1376
01:08:09,148 --> 01:08:11,690
The person they get married
to, like they come in the early
1377
01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:13,800
90s and they meet the
person for the first time,
1378
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,310
the chandelier was there.
1379
01:08:16,310 --> 01:08:17,279
I didn't replace it.
1380
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,490
I decided it can't be replaced.
1381
01:08:19,490 --> 01:08:22,615
We just decided we're
going to let it go.
1382
01:08:27,814 --> 01:08:32,550
Yeah, I think it was very
emotional when they took it out.
1383
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:34,529
It was gut wrenching for us.
1384
01:08:34,529 --> 01:08:37,140
And we were determined
to get it back.
1385
01:08:37,140 --> 01:08:39,870
One way or another we
were going to get it back.
1386
01:08:39,870 --> 01:08:42,840
My plan was I was going to
try to buy it at auction.
1387
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,800
Don had put out a
fundraiser type event
1388
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,410
to raise money to buy
back the chandelier.
1389
01:08:49,410 --> 01:08:53,729
What other club has that type
of commitment from their patrons
1390
01:08:53,729 --> 01:08:57,490
to spend their own hard earned
money, not just only visit it,
1391
01:08:57,490 --> 01:08:58,750
but to preserve it?
1392
01:08:58,750 --> 01:09:00,100
I finally made a deal.
1393
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:02,250
We bought the
chandelier for $7,000.
1394
01:09:02,250 --> 01:09:04,800
And we rehung it.
1395
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,460
We had all the spotlights down
on it, shining different colors,
1396
01:09:08,460 --> 01:09:09,830
so that it would glisten.
1397
01:09:09,830 --> 01:09:11,109
It was just beautiful.
1398
01:09:11,109 --> 01:09:12,760
And it was very emotional.
1399
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,290
It was a proud moment that the
scene came together like that.
1400
01:09:16,290 --> 01:09:18,580
And then it was a big
dance party afterwards.
1401
01:09:18,580 --> 01:09:23,100
And looking back on it, it hurts
now knowing that everything
1402
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:26,238
was gone right after that.
1403
01:09:26,238 --> 01:09:27,680
REPORTER 1: President
Donald Trump
1404
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,345
declared a national emergency.
1405
01:09:29,345 --> 01:09:31,609
REPORTER 2: And today
Governor Gregg Abbott
1406
01:09:31,609 --> 01:09:33,955
declared a state of
disaster in Texas.
1407
01:09:33,955 --> 01:09:35,330
Parts of North
Texas are seeing
1408
01:09:35,330 --> 01:09:37,720
an increase in positive cases.
1409
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,920
Dallas County has more cases
than anywhere else in the state.
1410
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,670
REPORTER 1: A heightened
sense of urgency.
1411
01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:44,395
REPORTER 2: Closures
of large events.
1412
01:09:44,395 --> 01:09:46,225
REPORTER 1: No visitors allowed.
1413
01:09:46,225 --> 01:09:48,170
REPORTER 2: The number
of cases should not
1414
01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:52,970
spike if people don't
gather in huge groups.
1415
01:09:52,970 --> 01:09:56,240
That Sunday before I was
my last show at The Church
1416
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,500
and I just played my heart
out, had fun, went out
1417
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:01,740
to eat with friends
like I always did,
1418
01:10:01,740 --> 01:10:04,310
and came home not realizing
that was the last time
1419
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:06,800
I was going to be
in that building.
1420
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,350
I knew months before
the pandemic hit the US,
1421
01:10:10,350 --> 01:10:12,680
I had a bad feeling
because I watched
1422
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,980
what was happening in Europe.
1423
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:16,400
We all saw what happened.
1424
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,782
In March, we got the shutdown
order from the governor.
1425
01:10:20,782 --> 01:10:23,240
JOE VIRUS: They kept sending
out the shutdown, the lockdown
1426
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:24,800
for longer.
1427
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:33,750
And around April or May,
I see a post on Facebook.
1428
01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:39,380
And I called Don right away.
1429
01:10:39,380 --> 01:10:40,330
I'm like, Don, what's going on?
1430
01:10:40,330 --> 01:10:42,125
He's like, yeah, we're
having to shut down.
1431
01:11:05,730 --> 01:11:09,420
I remember feeling
like it's not even real.
1432
01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:13,870
Like if The Church ends and
if that space shuts down,
1433
01:11:13,870 --> 01:11:19,780
I mean it's like truly the
end of something monumental.
1434
01:11:19,780 --> 01:11:23,130
I mean, how does that end?
1435
01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:24,820
It was during
lockdown in COVID.
1436
01:11:24,820 --> 01:11:28,500
So I got out my phone and I
found the Spotify playlist
1437
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:29,590
that Joe Virus did.
1438
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:33,160
And I just danced in my
backyard on the patio,
1439
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,100
smoking my clove in
memoriam of The Church.
1440
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:38,110
And it hurt.
1441
01:11:41,780 --> 01:11:45,200
I basically grieved
like I had lost somebody.
1442
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,640
It was a death to me.
1443
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,330
The church was who I was.
1444
01:11:48,330 --> 01:11:51,490
It was created, who I became.
1445
01:11:51,490 --> 01:11:53,430
It was my home.
1446
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:55,200
It was the only
place I felt safe.
1447
01:11:55,200 --> 01:12:00,110
And I definitely feel
like I've lost something
1448
01:12:00,110 --> 01:12:02,565
that was very important to me.
1449
01:12:02,565 --> 01:12:04,545
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1450
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,000
We cleaned the club out.
1451
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,970
And then we decided that
we would give everybody
1452
01:12:21,970 --> 01:12:24,110
an opportunity to come back in.
1453
01:12:24,110 --> 01:12:27,310
And I think it was really
important for The Church
1454
01:12:27,310 --> 01:12:30,132
community to have closure.
1455
01:12:30,132 --> 01:12:31,840
JOE VIRUS: And there
was a line of people
1456
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,100
all the way around the building,
outside down the street.
1457
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,180
People wanted to go in and
pay their last respects.
1458
01:12:38,180 --> 01:12:39,847
And that was the last
time I went there.
1459
01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:47,800
We did that last walkthrough.
1460
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:48,490
That was like a viewing.
1461
01:12:48,490 --> 01:12:50,850
It was like a viewing at
a funeral allowing people
1462
01:12:50,850 --> 01:12:51,580
to go in.
1463
01:12:51,580 --> 01:12:54,210
And I just stayed
in the dressing room
1464
01:12:54,210 --> 01:12:57,120
and wrote my name on a
wall that was eventually
1465
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:01,573
going to be torn down and just
cried until they forced me out
1466
01:13:01,573 --> 01:13:02,240
of the building.
1467
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:11,410
I mean, there will be
people 40 years from now
1468
01:13:11,410 --> 01:13:18,430
when you talk to them,
that'll remember being there.
1469
01:13:18,430 --> 01:13:20,380
I didn't think it would
affect me, that and--
1470
01:13:36,350 --> 01:13:42,710
I've sort of made peace
with the emotional part
1471
01:13:42,710 --> 01:13:45,500
and the emotional
component of this building.
1472
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:46,700
I've let it go.
1473
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:49,370
At the end of the day for me,
I have so many great memories
1474
01:13:49,370 --> 01:13:52,140
here, and that's
what I carry forward.
1475
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:55,400
I don't dwell on what I lost.
1476
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,613
I like to think
back on what we had
1477
01:13:59,613 --> 01:14:01,155
and all the great
things we did here.
1478
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:08,200
We immediately went
out and started
1479
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,770
looking for a new location.
1480
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:12,670
And that's when I acquired
the Italy club because I
1481
01:14:12,670 --> 01:14:15,250
knew when I looked at
it'll do that, The Church
1482
01:14:15,250 --> 01:14:16,380
would do well there.
1483
01:14:16,380 --> 01:14:19,900
I was really upset
that he was going
1484
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:21,520
to reopen The Church already.
1485
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,760
And that he was going to
call the night at It'll
1486
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,460
Do The Church.
1487
01:14:25,460 --> 01:14:26,900
I'm like, dude, why.
1488
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:30,530
Let's let The Church
die infamously.
1489
01:14:30,530 --> 01:14:32,110
Let it die legendary.
1490
01:14:32,110 --> 01:14:35,140
Let The Church die, the
name die with the building.
1491
01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:36,290
And It'll Do.
1492
01:14:36,290 --> 01:14:38,180
We're back to our roots.
1493
01:14:38,180 --> 01:14:40,400
And we're really more of
what we were originally,
1494
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,720
which is just a place to
dance, drink, and socialize.
1495
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,920
I hated it when I walked
in there the first time
1496
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,600
when I first saw it.
1497
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:51,700
I'm like, man, no,
this place, no.
1498
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:55,630
But now it's like with
the people and the vibe
1499
01:14:55,630 --> 01:14:58,700
and the music and the lighting,
it just, yeah, it works.
1500
01:14:58,700 --> 01:15:01,215
It felt like being at home
again in a different home.
1501
01:15:46,220 --> 01:15:48,204
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1502
01:15:52,730 --> 01:15:56,120
Listen, I support
Joe in his decisions.
1503
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,650
There are personal
decisions that he
1504
01:15:57,650 --> 01:15:59,190
has to make for his life.
1505
01:15:59,190 --> 01:16:01,640
And I support him
and encourage him.
1506
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:02,820
I wish him the best.
1507
01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:05,368
And I'm sure it'll
be good for him.
1508
01:16:05,368 --> 01:16:06,535
But we're going to miss him.
1509
01:16:10,900 --> 01:16:11,433
It's weird to talk about.
1510
01:16:11,433 --> 01:16:13,350
I don't know what to
say, so give me a second.
1511
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:25,960
It is what it is.
1512
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:26,490
It's time.
1513
01:16:30,866 --> 01:16:33,630
Oh my God, it's been so long.
1514
01:16:33,630 --> 01:16:35,292
So long, Byron.
1515
01:16:35,292 --> 01:16:36,000
You look great.
1516
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:36,590
You both do.
1517
01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:44,520
What's up?
1518
01:16:52,270 --> 01:16:55,870
Movers come on Wednesday.
1519
01:16:55,870 --> 01:16:57,465
And we leave Thursday.
1520
01:17:08,228 --> 01:17:11,190
Right now that this is the
last time in a long time
1521
01:17:11,190 --> 01:17:14,350
I'm going to see these people.
1522
01:17:14,350 --> 01:17:18,800
This could be the
last time I get
1523
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,870
to play my heart out to them.
1524
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:21,840
All my whole shit.
1525
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,700
Everybody's fucking here.
1526
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:25,980
What the fuck?
1527
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:28,530
The question I'm getting
all night long is like, why?
1528
01:17:28,530 --> 01:17:29,147
What happened?
1529
01:17:29,147 --> 01:17:29,730
What happened?
1530
01:17:29,730 --> 01:17:30,435
Is it a job?
1531
01:17:30,435 --> 01:17:31,600
Is it whatever?
1532
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,970
No, I'm just-- I just always
dreamed of living in California,
1533
01:17:33,970 --> 01:17:34,930
always wanted that.
1534
01:17:34,930 --> 01:17:37,660
And my wife always wanted
a mid-century modern home.
1535
01:17:37,660 --> 01:17:42,760
And we found a mid-century
modern home in California.
1536
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:43,620
Fucking yay.
1537
01:17:43,620 --> 01:17:48,390
And I'm going to go and do what
I can to take over California.
1538
01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:51,415
So I'm going to miss
you all so fucking much.
1539
01:17:51,415 --> 01:17:52,540
And we'll see what happens.
1540
01:17:52,540 --> 01:17:53,740
We'll see what fucking happens.
1541
01:17:53,740 --> 01:17:55,823
I want to play some fucking
three T's because it's
1542
01:17:55,823 --> 01:17:57,990
just that good right now.
1543
01:17:57,990 --> 01:18:01,900
I love you.
1544
01:18:01,900 --> 01:18:03,580
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1545
01:18:06,502 --> 01:18:08,850
OLGA: Hey, this is
Olga from Skinny Puppy,
1546
01:18:08,850 --> 01:18:10,640
and you are being
infected by one
1547
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,530
of the most disgusting diseases
by DJ Virus at The Church.
1548
01:18:15,530 --> 01:18:17,550
CEVIN KEY: Hi,
this is cEvin Key.
1549
01:18:17,550 --> 01:18:20,900
And you're listening to
Joe Virus at the church.
1550
01:18:20,900 --> 01:18:22,720
ANDY: Hey, it's Andy
from Comic Christ.
1551
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,180
You're listening to Joe
Virus at The Church.
1552
01:18:25,180 --> 01:18:27,130
RONAN: Hi, this is Ronan.
1553
01:18:27,130 --> 01:18:29,240
Welcome to the
House of our Lord.
1554
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:30,580
Welcome to The Church.
1555
01:18:30,580 --> 01:18:33,320
You're listening to the
beautiful sounds of Mr. Joe
1556
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:33,820
Virus.
1557
01:18:33,820 --> 01:18:36,350
GINGER FISH: This is ginger
fish from Marilyn Manson.
1558
01:18:36,350 --> 01:18:40,500
And you are listening to
Joe Virus at The Church.
1559
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,770
BILL LEE: Hey, this is Bill
Lee from frontline assembly.
1560
01:18:42,770 --> 01:18:45,550
And you are being
sonically accosted
1561
01:18:45,550 --> 01:18:48,270
by listening to Joe
Virus at The Church.
1562
01:18:48,270 --> 01:18:51,910
GROOVY: This is Groovy, man,
from my life with the thrill
1563
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:57,720
kill kult. And you're
listening to Joe Virus.
1564
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,670
MAN: (SINGING) I whisper
your name across them.
1565
01:19:18,580 --> 01:19:21,790
It's so natural that it
looks unnatural, I guess.
1566
01:19:21,790 --> 01:19:24,940
It looks-- it reminds
me of Angkor Wat.
1567
01:19:24,940 --> 01:19:28,940
But that's a temple
that was made by man.
1568
01:19:28,940 --> 01:19:31,275
This is just made by weather.
1569
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:37,340
I lived in Euless
out in the Metroplex,
1570
01:19:37,340 --> 01:19:40,900
and I really pretty
much just went
1571
01:19:40,900 --> 01:19:42,830
shopping, went to
restaurants, went to the club,
1572
01:19:42,830 --> 01:19:44,470
and that was it.
1573
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:50,543
Here, I come here maybe
once a week just to chill,
1574
01:19:50,543 --> 01:19:51,460
just to come out here.
1575
01:19:51,460 --> 01:19:54,900
And sometimes I'll just park
in the parking lot over here
1576
01:19:54,900 --> 01:19:55,833
and just sit and look at it.
1577
01:19:55,833 --> 01:19:57,500
Sometimes I'll get
up and wander around.
1578
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,700
I miss my friends.
1579
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:06,600
I miss the club.
1580
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:07,200
I really miss the club.
1581
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:08,220
I miss the crowd.
1582
01:20:08,220 --> 01:20:08,990
Both clubs.
1583
01:20:08,990 --> 01:20:10,860
I miss 2424.
1584
01:20:10,860 --> 01:20:13,700
I miss It'll Do.
1585
01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:14,930
I miss the crowd there.
1586
01:20:14,930 --> 01:20:16,610
I don't miss the traffic.
1587
01:20:16,610 --> 01:20:20,670
I have a good, group
of friends here.
1588
01:20:20,670 --> 01:20:26,920
An awesome-- we're like a
family, supporting each other.
1589
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:27,670
It's just awesome.
1590
01:20:27,670 --> 01:20:29,500
I get to hang out
with them a lot.
1591
01:20:29,500 --> 01:20:34,810
I moved here to a
desolate desert,
1592
01:20:34,810 --> 01:20:36,830
and I'm not alone anymore.
1593
01:20:36,830 --> 01:20:38,480
And I was more
alone in a big city.
1594
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:40,390
That's what I'm trying to say.
1595
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:42,105
Yeah, exactly what you said.
1596
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,660
So if I had to put
the story, the legacy,
1597
01:20:57,660 --> 01:20:59,162
the story of The
Church into words,
1598
01:20:59,162 --> 01:21:00,370
it's really difficult for me.
1599
01:21:00,370 --> 01:21:05,710
But I really think
it's just about how
1600
01:21:05,710 --> 01:21:08,450
one venue, one
place, one building,
1601
01:21:08,450 --> 01:21:14,270
one night in this one building,
how it brought all these lonely,
1602
01:21:14,270 --> 01:21:19,670
ostracized, the weirdos, the
freaks, the geeks, the nerds,
1603
01:21:19,670 --> 01:21:23,350
the lonesome, the lonely,
the sad, the forgotten
1604
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:25,100
and the displaced people.
1605
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:26,910
The building gave us all a hug.
1606
01:21:26,910 --> 01:21:32,400
It brought us all in
and pushed us together
1607
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,316
in a way that I've never
felt that anywhere.
1608
01:21:39,980 --> 01:21:46,130
I tried to be tough about
it all, the whole time.
1609
01:21:46,130 --> 01:21:49,490
I really missed being--
1610
01:21:49,490 --> 01:21:52,800
I miss it so much.
1611
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:53,300
Fuck.
1612
01:22:02,620 --> 01:22:04,693
I'm looking for a brick to take.
1613
01:22:04,693 --> 01:22:05,985
I want a piece of the building.
1614
01:22:22,350 --> 01:22:23,910
Yeah, this one's good.
1615
01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:26,130
This is my brick.
1616
01:22:26,130 --> 01:22:27,430
I just missed this place.
1617
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:28,680
I love this building.
1618
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,320
I don't want to let it go.
1619
01:22:33,634 --> 01:22:35,630
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1620
01:23:51,478 --> 01:23:54,260
MAN: (SINGING) Welcome
1621
01:23:54,260 --> 01:23:55,673
We live on the other side
1622
01:23:55,673 --> 01:23:57,340
We live on the other side
1623
01:23:57,340 --> 01:23:59,300
When cities sleep
1624
01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:00,560
We come alive
1625
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,480
When cities sleep
1626
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:02,270
We come alive
1627
01:24:02,270 --> 01:24:03,520
In our secret place
1628
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,470
We congregate
1629
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:05,840
In our secret place
1630
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,150
We congregate
1631
01:24:07,150 --> 01:24:09,200
Every night to celebrate
1632
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:19,200
Every night to celebrate
1633
01:24:28,980 --> 01:24:31,560
Enter without prejudice
1634
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:33,280
Enter without prejudice
1635
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,270
No sacred words
mean more than this
1636
01:24:35,270 --> 01:24:37,620
No Sacred words
mean more than this
1637
01:24:37,620 --> 01:24:39,665
Just take a seat
and listen close
1638
01:24:39,665 --> 01:24:42,170
Just take a seat
and listen close
1639
01:24:42,170 --> 01:24:44,390
Enjoy some spirits
with the ghosts
1640
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:46,890
Enjoy some spirits
with the ghosts
1641
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:51,700
You, you belong
to the night time
1642
01:24:51,700 --> 01:24:55,228
Moving through the shadows
of the street lights
1643
01:24:55,228 --> 01:24:59,988
You dance till the
moon starts to fall
1644
01:24:59,988 --> 01:25:01,500
You run from the lightning
1645
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:04,140
You belong to the night
1646
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:08,140
You, you belong to the nigh time
1647
01:25:08,140 --> 01:25:13,140
Moving through the shadows
under street lights
1648
01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:16,640
You dance till the
moon starts to fall
1649
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:20,440
You run from the light when
you belong to the night
1650
01:25:39,353 --> 01:25:41,720
Echos of the sound and lights
1651
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,400
Echos of the sound and light
1652
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,680
Shadows dance in pure delight
1653
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,120
Shadows dance in pure delight
1654
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,280
the rhythm is what pulled you in
1655
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,120
The rhythm is what pulled you in
1656
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,465
Don't let this feeling ever end
1657
01:25:54,465 --> 01:25:57,362
Don't let this feeling ever it
1658
01:25:57,362 --> 01:26:01,262
You, you belong to the nigh time
1659
01:26:01,262 --> 01:26:05,690
Moving through the shadows
under street lights
1660
01:26:05,690 --> 01:26:09,630
You dance till the
moon starts to fall
1661
01:26:09,630 --> 01:26:14,195
You run from the light when
you belong to the night
1662
01:26:14,195 --> 01:26:19,450
You, you belong to the nigh time
1663
01:26:19,450 --> 01:26:23,410
Moving through the shadows
under street lights
1664
01:26:23,410 --> 01:26:27,290
You dance till the
moon starts to fall
1665
01:26:27,290 --> 01:26:31,890
You run from the light when
you belong to the night
121607
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