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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,568 --> 00:00:05,570 Sonar's picking up a bunch of targets. 2 00:00:05,614 --> 00:00:08,138 We're right there, the gold bar. I want to get down there. 3 00:00:08,182 --> 00:00:09,966 BRIAN: Okay, diver in the water! 4 00:00:10,010 --> 00:00:12,055 There were secret tunnels 5 00:00:12,099 --> 00:00:13,839 underneath Charles Hackley's house. 6 00:00:13,883 --> 00:00:15,058 You're saying there was a tunnel from his house 7 00:00:15,102 --> 00:00:16,886 -to the train depot? -Correct. 8 00:00:16,929 --> 00:00:18,496 BRAD: The only reason you'd need a tunnel 9 00:00:18,540 --> 00:00:20,063 is if you were hiding something, 10 00:00:20,107 --> 00:00:21,195 had to move something in secret. 11 00:00:24,067 --> 00:00:25,808 -All right. -You're saying there was a third vault. 12 00:00:25,851 --> 00:00:27,853 STEVE: Yep, that's when they pulled the bags out. 13 00:00:27,897 --> 00:00:29,725 -Bags of what? -Gold. 14 00:00:29,768 --> 00:00:31,031 Bags of gold? 15 00:00:31,074 --> 00:00:33,424 ♪ 16 00:00:48,787 --> 00:00:51,442 AL: Are you excited to get back to Frankfort? 17 00:00:51,486 --> 00:00:53,444 I am so excited to get back to Frankfort. 18 00:00:53,488 --> 00:00:56,230 -So am I. -$140 million worth of gold, 19 00:00:56,273 --> 00:00:58,797 -just waiting for us to find it. -[chuckles] 20 00:00:58,841 --> 00:01:00,712 NARRATOR: In the northern, lakeside town 21 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:02,453 of Frankfort, Michigan, 22 00:01:02,497 --> 00:01:05,065 researcher and treasure hunter Kevin Dykstra, 23 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:07,806 along with his younger brother Al, 24 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:11,027 believe they could be just days, if not hours, 25 00:01:11,071 --> 00:01:13,421 from making a history-changing discovery. 26 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:14,944 I think we're right there, 27 00:01:14,987 --> 00:01:17,120 where that gold is buried under the surface. 28 00:01:17,164 --> 00:01:19,644 -I know we're in the right area. -Yeah. 29 00:01:19,688 --> 00:01:20,558 NARRATOR: They are hoping to confirm 30 00:01:20,602 --> 00:01:22,430 the precise location 31 00:01:22,473 --> 00:01:24,649 of a sunken railway boxcar 32 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:28,305 containing a fortune in lost Civil War gold. 33 00:01:28,349 --> 00:01:31,134 I can't wait to see how the sector scan sonar works 34 00:01:31,178 --> 00:01:33,441 -that Dr. Holley is bringing. -Yeah, me, too. 35 00:01:33,484 --> 00:01:35,791 I personally would love to be able to show 36 00:01:35,834 --> 00:01:37,445 -that our theory was right... -Yeah. 37 00:01:37,488 --> 00:01:39,577 ...and here's the proof of it. 38 00:01:39,621 --> 00:01:41,623 -Absolutely. -Yeah. 39 00:01:41,666 --> 00:01:44,756 NARRATOR: According to Kevin Dykstra's research, 40 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,151 when Confederate president Jefferson Davis was arrested 41 00:01:48,195 --> 00:01:50,806 in 1865, 42 00:01:50,849 --> 00:01:55,289 six wagons filled with gold, silver and jewels 43 00:01:55,332 --> 00:01:59,554 taken from the Confederate treasury were found with him. 44 00:01:59,597 --> 00:02:01,947 The stolen cargo was then confiscated 45 00:02:01,991 --> 00:02:04,776 by Lieutenant Colonel Benjamin Pritchard 46 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:06,952 who, acting under orders, 47 00:02:06,996 --> 00:02:09,955 later arranged for it to be transferred by railroad 48 00:02:09,999 --> 00:02:13,263 north to Muskegon, Michigan and into the waiting hands 49 00:02:13,307 --> 00:02:17,441 of lumber tycoon-turned-banker Charles Hackley, 50 00:02:17,485 --> 00:02:19,182 who began laundering it, 51 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:21,663 first through the local banking system 52 00:02:21,706 --> 00:02:25,232 and then through a number of his gold mines out west. 53 00:02:25,275 --> 00:02:28,713 According to a deathbed confession 54 00:02:28,757 --> 00:02:32,935 made by a lighthouse keeper more than 100 years ago, 55 00:02:32,978 --> 00:02:35,198 one of Hackley's secret shipments 56 00:02:35,242 --> 00:02:37,592 was deliberately pushed off a ferry and into Lake Michigan 57 00:02:37,635 --> 00:02:40,247 somewhere near the city of Frankfort, 58 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,032 where it remains to this day. 59 00:02:46,209 --> 00:02:47,776 KEVIN: Yeah, I can't wait to get this started. 60 00:02:47,819 --> 00:02:49,038 -AL: Me, too. -This is gonna be fun. 61 00:02:50,257 --> 00:02:51,867 -Yeah? -Yep, got it. 62 00:02:51,910 --> 00:02:53,085 -Gentlemen. -Hey, guys. 63 00:02:53,129 --> 00:02:54,609 -How are you? -BRIAN: Good. 64 00:02:54,652 --> 00:02:56,959 -Hey, guys. -Hey, what's happening? 65 00:02:57,002 --> 00:02:58,743 -How are you? -Good, good. 66 00:02:58,787 --> 00:03:00,919 KEVIN: Holy smokes. Look at all this stuff. 67 00:03:00,963 --> 00:03:03,183 Guys, this is, uh, Brian Abbott. 68 00:03:03,226 --> 00:03:04,836 -Brian, nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 69 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,187 Brian. You gonna help us find that gold? 70 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:08,840 [chuckles] Well, we'll see about that one. 71 00:03:08,884 --> 00:03:11,103 [laughter] 72 00:03:11,147 --> 00:03:13,280 -Brian actually helped us a lot on Oak Island. -Oh, wow. 73 00:03:13,323 --> 00:03:15,238 -Hopefully, it works out for us today, right? -Yeah. 74 00:03:15,282 --> 00:03:17,284 Here we go. Yep. 75 00:03:17,327 --> 00:03:19,851 NARRATOR: For the past six years, 76 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:22,463 underwater imaging expert Brian Abbott 77 00:03:22,506 --> 00:03:24,856 has been helping brothers Rick and Marty Lagina... 78 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:26,597 -Look at that. -...in their quest 79 00:03:26,641 --> 00:03:29,731 to solve the 223-year-old treasure mystery 80 00:03:29,774 --> 00:03:32,386 on Oak Island, in Nova Scotia. 81 00:03:32,429 --> 00:03:35,345 He has also played a key role in a number 82 00:03:35,389 --> 00:03:37,521 of high-profile sonar operations, 83 00:03:37,565 --> 00:03:39,654 including the first complete mapping 84 00:03:39,697 --> 00:03:43,179 of the RMSTitanic in 2010. 85 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:47,836 What this is, is this is a scanning sonar. 86 00:03:47,879 --> 00:03:50,665 I think it's a really nice tool to give you some information 87 00:03:50,708 --> 00:03:53,320 and data that will be useful for you to help build 88 00:03:53,363 --> 00:03:55,844 an understanding of what's going on down there. 89 00:03:55,887 --> 00:03:57,846 I'm chomping at the bit to get this thing in the water. 90 00:03:57,889 --> 00:03:59,630 So let's get this stuff loaded on the boat. 91 00:03:59,674 --> 00:04:01,458 -Sounds good, let's go. -Absolutely. -All right. 92 00:04:03,547 --> 00:04:06,724 NARRATOR: Today, Brian will be using sonar technology 93 00:04:06,768 --> 00:04:09,684 to help Kevin and the team map the underwater structure 94 00:04:09,727 --> 00:04:11,294 they discovered last week, 95 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:13,209 along with the nearby debris field, 96 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:17,605 where they may have spotted a gold bar last year. 97 00:04:17,648 --> 00:04:19,824 MARK: So, what our plans for today, guys, 98 00:04:19,868 --> 00:04:22,827 are why don't we go out to the square structure 99 00:04:22,871 --> 00:04:25,917 that we dove on last time, and then we'll move on 100 00:04:25,961 --> 00:04:29,965 to the debris field and spend the rest of our time 101 00:04:30,008 --> 00:04:31,575 imaging and mapping that. 102 00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:39,322 NARRATOR: Last week, Kevin and the team found 103 00:04:39,366 --> 00:04:42,543 what they believe to be a section of a possible boxcar. 104 00:04:46,895 --> 00:04:48,766 Using a metal detector, 105 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:51,552 they also obtained indications of non-ferrous 106 00:04:51,595 --> 00:04:54,119 or possibly precious metal objects. 107 00:04:58,950 --> 00:05:02,824 If Kevin and the team can verify his findings, 108 00:05:02,867 --> 00:05:04,869 he can then apply for the permits he needs 109 00:05:04,913 --> 00:05:08,525 from the State of Michigan to excavate the area. 110 00:05:08,569 --> 00:05:12,007 So these images that we get, 111 00:05:12,050 --> 00:05:13,791 will that help us in the permitting process? 112 00:05:13,835 --> 00:05:15,271 MARK: Absolutely, that's gonna be 113 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,229 the very first thing the state asks for, 114 00:05:17,273 --> 00:05:20,102 is they're gonna want to see a survey of that entire area. 115 00:05:20,145 --> 00:05:22,060 -KEVIN: Okay. -So let's get to the site. 116 00:05:22,104 --> 00:05:24,367 Get this thing underway. 117 00:05:24,411 --> 00:05:26,804 NARRATOR: Using side-scan sonar 118 00:05:26,848 --> 00:05:29,503 and the GPS coordinates obtained last week... 119 00:05:29,546 --> 00:05:30,939 You're right on line... 120 00:05:30,982 --> 00:05:32,549 NARRATOR: ...Dr. Mark Holley 121 00:05:32,593 --> 00:05:34,116 guides the team to the location 122 00:05:34,159 --> 00:05:37,162 of the potential remains of the boxcar. 123 00:05:37,206 --> 00:05:39,077 MARK: On our GPS, we're 60 feet, 124 00:05:39,121 --> 00:05:41,428 so we're coming right up on it, 125 00:05:41,471 --> 00:05:42,733 and right there it is on the sonar. 126 00:05:42,777 --> 00:05:44,387 There it is right there. 127 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:47,085 Slow her down, right there, stop. 128 00:05:49,087 --> 00:05:52,613 As soon as we have anchor down, we can set up the tripod. 129 00:05:52,656 --> 00:05:54,223 Well, let's get the tripod out. 130 00:05:54,266 --> 00:05:56,747 NARRATOR: To map today's target areas, 131 00:05:56,791 --> 00:05:59,663 Brian Abbott will be using a sector scanning sonar device 132 00:05:59,707 --> 00:06:02,797 called the MS1000. 133 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:07,584 Using a steel tripod, the MS1000 will be able to stand 134 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:10,544 on the lake bottomo generate a three-dimensional map 135 00:06:10,587 --> 00:06:13,764 of the surrounding environment, and any near-surface 136 00:06:13,808 --> 00:06:16,985 buried objects not visible to the naked eye. 137 00:06:17,028 --> 00:06:19,770 Once the team has finished mapping a series 138 00:06:19,814 --> 00:06:22,599 of different areas around the possible boxcar remains, 139 00:06:22,643 --> 00:06:25,210 as well as the nearby debris field, 140 00:06:25,254 --> 00:06:29,040 these individual sonar images will be joined together 141 00:06:29,084 --> 00:06:31,478 to form what is called a mosaic. 142 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:32,914 Tip it back this way. 143 00:06:32,957 --> 00:06:34,524 KEVIN: Brian wants to do enough scans 144 00:06:34,568 --> 00:06:36,787 to build this nice, large mosaic. 145 00:06:36,831 --> 00:06:38,267 Okay, we're clear. 146 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:39,964 KEVIN: When he puts that all together, 147 00:06:40,008 --> 00:06:41,836 it's gonna show the bottom, 148 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:43,664 it's gonna show all of the features on the bottom. 149 00:06:43,707 --> 00:06:45,535 We'll go off this side. 150 00:06:45,579 --> 00:06:47,450 KEVIN: And then you just have that much more data 151 00:06:47,494 --> 00:06:50,453 to give the state and help our chances to get the permit. 152 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:52,412 We can get it in the water now. 153 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:54,109 And let it go. 154 00:06:54,152 --> 00:06:55,589 AL: There she goes. 155 00:06:58,635 --> 00:07:00,637 BRIAN: We just slowly start 156 00:07:00,681 --> 00:07:02,552 lowering cable out until we hit bottom. 157 00:07:06,164 --> 00:07:08,950 -What's your depth, skipper? -49 feet. 158 00:07:08,993 --> 00:07:11,648 BRIAN: So, let's go to, like, 60 feet. 159 00:07:19,961 --> 00:07:21,919 -We're on bottom. -Okay, roger that. 160 00:07:28,535 --> 00:07:29,797 Okay, there it is, there. 161 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:33,714 We got the structure here. 162 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:35,019 Oh. 163 00:07:35,063 --> 00:07:37,108 So are you able to measure that? 164 00:07:37,152 --> 00:07:41,635 BRIAN: Sure. I'm going to drop this down to a lesser range, 165 00:07:41,678 --> 00:07:44,376 so we can get some better resolution on this target. 166 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:46,596 So what I'll do is I'll grab my, uh, measurement tool. 167 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,338 -Pick a corner right there... -Mm-hmm. 168 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:53,690 and drag it all the way across and I'll mark it right there, 169 00:07:53,734 --> 00:07:57,868 and I'll measure from this corner all the way across. 170 00:07:57,912 --> 00:08:02,133 So our dimensions that we have we could say that it's roughly 171 00:08:02,177 --> 00:08:05,006 16 feet long, 14 and a half feet wide. 172 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:12,230 NARRATOR: Because late-19th century railroad boxcars 173 00:08:12,274 --> 00:08:16,887 were designed to be 36 feet long by seven feet wide, 174 00:08:16,931 --> 00:08:19,847 is it possible that what Kevin and the team have found 175 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:24,112 is not a complete boxcar, but instead a portion of one? 176 00:08:24,155 --> 00:08:26,201 Perhaps a piece that broke off 177 00:08:26,244 --> 00:08:28,116 when the gold-heavy wooden structure 178 00:08:28,159 --> 00:08:30,118 hit the bottom of the lake. 179 00:08:30,161 --> 00:08:32,120 KEVIN: If you look at the scan, 180 00:08:32,163 --> 00:08:34,992 there's a definite-- I'm gonna call it a header piece 181 00:08:35,036 --> 00:08:39,649 across the north side, but the south side is wide open, 182 00:08:39,693 --> 00:08:42,260 like there was something else attached to it. 183 00:08:42,304 --> 00:08:43,610 AL: Something broke off from it. 184 00:08:43,653 --> 00:08:45,655 KEVIN: So, this could be the boxcar 185 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:48,397 laid like this, and then somehow broke in half 186 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,878 as it come off from the car ferry. 187 00:08:50,921 --> 00:08:54,446 -I wouldn't rule it out. -Yeah, neither would I. 188 00:08:54,490 --> 00:08:57,275 NARRATOR: If Kevin and his team have in fact 189 00:08:57,319 --> 00:09:00,322 located a portion of the missing 19th-century boxcar... 190 00:09:00,365 --> 00:09:02,106 Let Alex come up here. 191 00:09:02,150 --> 00:09:04,108 ...does this mean they are close to returning 192 00:09:04,152 --> 00:09:06,154 to the area where they think they may have discovered 193 00:09:06,197 --> 00:09:10,593 a debris field last year, the one where Kevin believes 194 00:09:10,637 --> 00:09:12,464 he and the team photographed evidence 195 00:09:12,508 --> 00:09:15,859 of one of the missing Confederate gold bars? 196 00:09:15,903 --> 00:09:19,297 I think we've got the data that we need for this location. 197 00:09:19,341 --> 00:09:20,516 -Right. -With the wind picking up 198 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:21,952 and the sea kind of picking up, 199 00:09:21,996 --> 00:09:22,866 I think we need to get to that debris field. 200 00:09:22,910 --> 00:09:24,389 -Yeah. -BRIAN: Yeah. 201 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:26,217 BRIAN: So let's pull the tripod, 202 00:09:26,261 --> 00:09:27,654 and we'll move to the debris field. 203 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:30,700 ALEX: Watch this side scan there. 204 00:09:30,744 --> 00:09:32,746 And then just walk it back this way, guys. 205 00:09:32,789 --> 00:09:34,922 It's inside the frame, then we're good. 206 00:09:34,965 --> 00:09:36,663 Let me set our navigation, then. 207 00:09:36,706 --> 00:09:38,447 [engine starts] 208 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:40,623 LARRY: Right away, getting on it. 209 00:09:40,667 --> 00:09:41,929 Spin the nose around. 210 00:09:41,972 --> 00:09:43,626 Turning around to the west now. 211 00:09:48,892 --> 00:09:50,764 STEVEN: I was told that there More to the northwest. 212 00:09:50,807 --> 00:09:52,635 KEVIN: We're 55 feet from the target, 213 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,245 so we should be able to see something. 214 00:09:54,289 --> 00:09:55,769 Yeah. 215 00:09:55,812 --> 00:09:57,945 NARRATOR: After mapping the location 216 00:09:57,988 --> 00:10:00,121 of what they think could be a portion of a boxcar 217 00:10:00,164 --> 00:10:02,210 on the bottom of Lake Michigan, 218 00:10:02,253 --> 00:10:05,909 Kevin Dykstra and the team are now searching for an area 219 00:10:05,953 --> 00:10:07,389 where, last year... 220 00:10:07,432 --> 00:10:08,956 -KEVIN: Right there. -MARTY: Hmm. 221 00:10:08,999 --> 00:10:11,654 ...he believes they discovered 222 00:10:11,698 --> 00:10:17,138 a debris field and a possible bar of stolen Confederate gold. 223 00:10:18,922 --> 00:10:20,184 KEVIN: Have you spotted it yet? 224 00:10:20,228 --> 00:10:21,751 AL: There it is. There it is. 225 00:10:21,795 --> 00:10:22,970 -MARK: Stop right there. -KEVIN: Stop right here, 226 00:10:23,013 --> 00:10:24,754 and get it down there. 227 00:10:24,798 --> 00:10:27,191 NARRATOR: Using the sector scan sonar device, 228 00:10:27,235 --> 00:10:30,412 underwater imaging expert Brian Abbott will attempt 229 00:10:30,455 --> 00:10:33,676 to get a three-dimensional image of the area. 230 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,983 -On bottom. -MARK: Okay, we should be clear, Brian. 231 00:10:36,026 --> 00:10:38,115 BRIAN: Roger that. 232 00:10:38,159 --> 00:10:40,204 -What do you see? -BRIAN: Sonar's picking up 233 00:10:40,248 --> 00:10:42,380 a bunch of targets, guys. 234 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,600 KEVIN: We are definitely in the debris field as we speak. 235 00:10:44,644 --> 00:10:46,646 I bet there's 15 targets right here. 236 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:49,300 This is amazing. 237 00:10:49,344 --> 00:10:52,260 You know, if that boxcar came off of that car ferry 238 00:10:52,303 --> 00:10:54,697 -and just broke apart, that's what we'd look for. -Mm-hmm. 239 00:10:54,741 --> 00:10:58,048 -KEVIN: That's exactly what we'd look for. -AL: Mm-hmm. 240 00:10:58,092 --> 00:11:00,181 All right, I'm pretty happy with the data. 241 00:11:00,224 --> 00:11:02,313 Well, we'll do a couple more drops and-and build a better 242 00:11:02,357 --> 00:11:03,532 -picture, is that what you're thinking? -BRIAN: Yeah, absolutely. 243 00:11:03,575 --> 00:11:05,012 We're ready to move. 244 00:11:05,055 --> 00:11:06,666 -AL: Start pulling it up? -Pull her up. 245 00:11:09,016 --> 00:11:11,061 NARRATOR: Although the team has already collected 246 00:11:11,105 --> 00:11:12,672 a large amount of data from the debris field... 247 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:17,677 ...the more drops they perform with 248 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,722 the sector scanning device will help Brian Abbott 249 00:11:19,766 --> 00:11:23,639 build a more comprehensive mosaic of the area. 250 00:11:23,683 --> 00:11:27,643 It may also help Kevin obtain permission 251 00:11:27,687 --> 00:11:30,777 from the state of Michigan to dredge portions of the site 252 00:11:30,820 --> 00:11:33,040 and hopefully retrieve artifacts 253 00:11:33,083 --> 00:11:35,782 and possibly gold from the lake bed. 254 00:11:35,825 --> 00:11:39,916 60 foot will be the diameter of our circle. 255 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,266 KEVIN: I'm trying to get as much data as I can. 256 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:43,746 Look at that. 257 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:46,096 KEVIN: The map is much more thorough 258 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:49,056 with the more places he sets the sector scan 259 00:11:49,099 --> 00:11:51,014 and he can build a lot better picture. 260 00:11:51,058 --> 00:11:53,669 KEVIN: Let's call it good right here. 261 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:55,758 I think we're far enough back, we're gonna get more data 262 00:11:55,802 --> 00:11:57,804 at this location. 263 00:11:57,847 --> 00:12:00,850 -Are we ready to set that down, Dr. Holley? -MARK: Yeah. 264 00:12:00,894 --> 00:12:02,547 AL: He's lowering it. 265 00:12:03,984 --> 00:12:05,899 Boy, I wish these waves would calm down. 266 00:12:05,942 --> 00:12:08,597 Hang on guys, we've got some big ones coming. 267 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,339 NARRATOR: With weather conditions on the lake 268 00:12:11,382 --> 00:12:13,123 rapidly deteriorating, 269 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:16,213 Kevin and his team must now work both quickly 270 00:12:16,257 --> 00:12:17,432 and carefully. 271 00:12:18,607 --> 00:12:19,695 Okay, we're on bottom. 272 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:21,697 Roger that; on bottom. 273 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:23,481 When we set that sector scan on the bottom, 274 00:12:23,525 --> 00:12:25,266 it has to stay in that position 275 00:12:25,309 --> 00:12:26,963 until it's done recording its data. 276 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:29,531 If the wind blows us out of position, 277 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:31,402 we have to start all over. 278 00:12:31,446 --> 00:12:33,361 We're totally at the mercy of Lake Michigan. 279 00:12:33,404 --> 00:12:35,015 BRIAN: Check it out. 280 00:12:35,058 --> 00:12:37,365 That's a real interesting target right there. 281 00:12:37,408 --> 00:12:40,324 See how that's curved? 282 00:12:40,368 --> 00:12:41,978 KEVIN: If that is a piece 283 00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:43,937 -of cable, we're right there. -BRIAN: Mm-hmm. 284 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:46,069 KEVIN: When we talk about the cable, 285 00:12:46,113 --> 00:12:48,028 it's significant because 286 00:12:48,071 --> 00:12:50,770 in the footage of what we believe is a gold bar 287 00:12:50,813 --> 00:12:53,598 from the dive last year, we clearly see cable. 288 00:12:58,603 --> 00:13:00,257 KEVIN: I know where we were 289 00:13:00,301 --> 00:13:02,825 when we got that footage of what we think is a gold bar, 290 00:13:02,869 --> 00:13:04,479 -And this is where we're at. -AL: Yep. 291 00:13:04,522 --> 00:13:05,872 You always said, "Find the cable, find the gold." 292 00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:07,917 [chuckles] 293 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:11,094 NARRATOR: While Kevin continues to supervise the mapping 294 00:13:11,138 --> 00:13:13,183 of the debris field area, 295 00:13:13,227 --> 00:13:17,057 120 miles south in Muskegon, Michigan, 296 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:20,147 his friends and research partners 297 00:13:20,190 --> 00:13:22,453 Brad Richards and Jeff Zehr have arrived at the home 298 00:13:22,497 --> 00:13:24,629 of Steve Habetler. 299 00:13:24,673 --> 00:13:26,675 -Pretty excited, though, to meet this guy. -Yeah. 300 00:13:26,718 --> 00:13:29,243 NARRATOR: Steve claims to have information that could help 301 00:13:29,286 --> 00:13:31,985 verify Kevin's theory that Confederate gold 302 00:13:32,028 --> 00:13:34,944 made its way to Michigan after the Civil War. 303 00:13:34,988 --> 00:13:36,380 BRAD: Any time you're talking about 304 00:13:36,424 --> 00:13:37,991 -a conspiracy like this... -JEFF: Yeah. 305 00:13:38,034 --> 00:13:39,688 ...and then you get someone to reach out and say, 306 00:13:39,731 --> 00:13:41,211 -"Hey, I've got something... -Mm-hmm. 307 00:13:41,255 --> 00:13:42,647 -...that you might want to hear." -Right. 308 00:13:42,691 --> 00:13:44,388 BRIAN: Having people reach out to us, 309 00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:46,477 it gives us a really big opportunity. 310 00:13:46,521 --> 00:13:49,741 There's an unexplained story about Confederate gold 311 00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:51,874 that I really believe we're gonna explain. 312 00:13:51,918 --> 00:13:53,397 STEVE: Hey, there. 313 00:13:53,441 --> 00:13:54,921 -BRAD: Steve? -I'm Steve. 314 00:13:54,964 --> 00:13:56,618 -Hi, I'm Jeff Zehr. -Jeff, glad to meet you. 315 00:13:56,661 --> 00:13:58,576 -Brad Richards. -Brad. 316 00:13:58,620 --> 00:14:00,404 -Glad to meet you, come on in. -Thank you. Thank you so much 317 00:14:00,448 --> 00:14:02,363 -for having us over. -STEVE: Not a problem. 318 00:14:02,406 --> 00:14:05,801 NARRATOR: After learning of Kevin's incredible theory, 319 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,717 Steve Habetler has offered to share a story 320 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,242 that he's kept secret for more than 50 years. 321 00:14:12,286 --> 00:14:15,855 It concerns a job he once held at a local ba 322 00:14:15,898 --> 00:14:18,248 founded in the early 1900s 323 00:14:18,292 --> 00:14:20,903 by associates of the late Charles Hackley, 324 00:14:20,947 --> 00:14:23,427 the man who Kevin believes conspired 325 00:14:23,471 --> 00:14:27,562 to launder millions in stolen Confederate gold. 326 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,260 So, Steve, when you reached out to Kevin and I 327 00:14:30,304 --> 00:14:32,045 and said you had something interesting to tell us 328 00:14:32,088 --> 00:14:35,091 because you worked at Hackley Union National Bank? 329 00:14:35,135 --> 00:14:37,137 Well, I related my story about being 330 00:14:37,180 --> 00:14:39,313 a vault boy for Hackley Bank. 331 00:14:39,356 --> 00:14:40,923 -"Vault boy"? -STEVE: Vault boy. 332 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:44,100 When, this was back in the '60s, the early '60s, 333 00:14:44,144 --> 00:14:47,321 they gave me a key to the vault and told me that 334 00:14:47,364 --> 00:14:48,975 was only one of three keys and I... 335 00:14:49,018 --> 00:14:50,933 -Thevault? -The vault. 336 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:52,152 Turns out, there was more than one vault. 337 00:14:52,195 --> 00:14:54,632 -How many vaults? -Well... 338 00:14:54,676 --> 00:14:57,505 two official and one not official. 339 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,595 Uh, "not official." 340 00:15:00,638 --> 00:15:02,292 Because we've been in two of the vaults. 341 00:15:02,336 --> 00:15:04,642 -Oh, lookee here. -Look at that. 342 00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:06,253 -There's hundreds of them. -Nice. 343 00:15:06,296 --> 00:15:09,734 NARRATOR: Last year, after hearing rumors 344 00:15:09,778 --> 00:15:11,084 that Confederate gold was once kept hidden 345 00:15:11,127 --> 00:15:13,651 at the Hackley Union National Bank, 346 00:15:13,695 --> 00:15:17,133 Kevin and the team gained access to a number of 347 00:15:17,177 --> 00:15:20,397 abandoned safe-deposit boxes in a basement vault. 348 00:15:20,441 --> 00:15:23,139 Oh. No. 349 00:15:23,183 --> 00:15:25,054 Oh, watch out. 350 00:15:25,098 --> 00:15:27,056 NARRATOR: Although his search turned up no sign 351 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:29,798 -of the legendary treasure... -Get away, get away, get away! 352 00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:31,452 NARRATOR: ...Kevin did find evidence 353 00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:33,106 of a secret tunnel. 354 00:15:33,149 --> 00:15:36,109 There's wood, I can feel nails. 355 00:15:36,152 --> 00:15:39,329 It feels like a latch back in there. 356 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:42,985 There's something back there. 357 00:15:43,029 --> 00:15:44,334 You're saying there's a third vault? 358 00:15:44,378 --> 00:15:45,640 A third vault, yep. 359 00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:48,121 -Oh, okay. -I was in the mail room 360 00:15:48,164 --> 00:15:49,861 and he said, "Now follow me," 361 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:51,951 so I followed him down a hallway. 362 00:15:51,994 --> 00:15:54,736 I asked the vice president, 363 00:15:54,779 --> 00:15:56,781 "Why's that steel plate on the wall?" 364 00:15:56,825 --> 00:15:59,567 And as I said it, I noticed there was something like 365 00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:02,004 a doorknob, and he said "That's not a steel plate; 366 00:16:02,048 --> 00:16:04,267 -that's another vault." -Oh, wow. 367 00:16:04,311 --> 00:16:05,921 And that's when they pulled the bags out. 368 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:07,531 Bags of what? 369 00:16:07,575 --> 00:16:10,360 -Gold. -Bags of gold? 370 00:16:10,404 --> 00:16:12,101 -Correct. -Gold or gold coins? 371 00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:13,668 -Or, what... -I... My... 372 00:16:13,711 --> 00:16:16,279 My memory is they were small go-gold bars. 373 00:16:16,323 --> 00:16:17,889 Did the bars have any identifiers on them? 374 00:16:17,933 --> 00:16:19,761 I didn't see any. I can't remember if 375 00:16:19,804 --> 00:16:21,023 it was stamped with anything. 376 00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:22,329 And this was the mysterious vault 377 00:16:22,372 --> 00:16:24,418 -that no one knew about? -Correct. 378 00:16:24,461 --> 00:16:26,942 NARRATOR: A secret vault? 379 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:30,728 Containing gold bars at the Hackley Union National Bank? 380 00:16:30,772 --> 00:16:33,470 Could this have been part of the remains 381 00:16:33,514 --> 00:16:34,950 of the Confederate Treasury 382 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:36,996 that Kevin believes was smuggled 383 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:39,694 to Muskegon by Charles Hackley? 384 00:16:39,737 --> 00:16:43,132 If so, does it mean the gold that was once kept 385 00:16:43,176 --> 00:16:44,612 in the Hackley Union National Bank 386 00:16:44,655 --> 00:16:46,701 is connected to the gold 387 00:16:46,744 --> 00:16:50,313 that Kevin is now searching for at the bottom of Lake Michigan? 388 00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:54,143 You've been keeping this quiet for 50 years. 389 00:16:54,187 --> 00:16:56,885 I guess I was instructed, keep this to yourself. 390 00:16:56,928 --> 00:16:58,974 Do you ever hear-- Remember hearing of any tunnels 391 00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:01,194 -at Hackley National Bank? -Yep. 392 00:17:01,237 --> 00:17:02,934 -Have you? -Sure did. 393 00:17:02,978 --> 00:17:04,980 Remember I told you about the steel door? 394 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:06,460 -Mm-hmm. -Right? And then I was told 395 00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:08,070 that there was a tunnel 396 00:17:08,114 --> 00:17:10,986 leaving Hackley Bank, going across the street. 397 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:15,556 And I was told it ran underneath a whole bunch of buildings. 398 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,472 And then I was told that there was a tunnel 399 00:17:18,515 --> 00:17:21,518 leaving Hackley mansion, going across the street. 400 00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:27,611 NARRATOR: Tunnels... 401 00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:31,050 connected to the Hackley Union National Bank, 402 00:17:31,093 --> 00:17:34,140 as well as the home of Charles Hackley? 403 00:17:34,183 --> 00:17:36,838 If so, where do they lead? 404 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:39,928 And what might they contain? 405 00:17:39,971 --> 00:17:42,365 Could you show us where you're talking about, exactly? 406 00:17:42,409 --> 00:17:43,497 Do you want me to drive, or you want to drive? 407 00:17:43,540 --> 00:17:45,629 -Um, I'll drive. -Okay. 408 00:17:45,673 --> 00:17:49,851 NARRATOR: While Brad Richards, Jeff Zehr and Steve Habetler 409 00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:52,419 head out to investigate a possible secret tunnel 410 00:17:52,462 --> 00:17:54,943 in Muskegon... 411 00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:58,425 back on Lake Michigan, just outside of Frankfort, 412 00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:03,343 Kevin Dykstra, Alex Lagina and other members of their team 413 00:18:03,386 --> 00:18:06,302 continue with their sector scan survey of the debris field. 414 00:18:06,346 --> 00:18:08,174 If you look at this shadow right here, 415 00:18:08,217 --> 00:18:10,045 this is kind of rectangular. 416 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:11,264 Geez! 417 00:18:11,307 --> 00:18:13,353 BRIAN: About three feet long, 418 00:18:13,396 --> 00:18:15,790 this one individual target. 419 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:17,139 We've always believed that that gold 420 00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:18,619 was contained in something. 421 00:18:18,662 --> 00:18:19,968 They wouldn't just take gold bars 422 00:18:20,011 --> 00:18:21,491 and stick 'em in a boxcar. 423 00:18:21,535 --> 00:18:23,406 They would put them in something. 424 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:26,235 I don't think doing any more sonar work is gonna help us. 425 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:27,802 -I think we need to get in the water. -Yep. 426 00:18:27,845 --> 00:18:29,586 I want to get down there and see these targets. 427 00:18:29,630 --> 00:18:31,632 I agree. 428 00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:34,417 KEVIN: The seas are getting rough. 429 00:18:34,461 --> 00:18:36,332 AL: You doing all right, Doc Holley? 430 00:18:36,376 --> 00:18:38,029 You feeling a little nauseous at all? 431 00:18:38,073 --> 00:18:39,030 MARK: Oh, yeah. I'm gonna hurl soon. 432 00:18:39,074 --> 00:18:41,120 -Are you? -Yeah. 433 00:18:41,163 --> 00:18:43,992 -Really? -I'm doing okay, but I'll give you some space. 434 00:18:44,035 --> 00:18:46,516 Do you think you're in a position to dive, or no? 435 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,215 No, I'm definitely not diving today. 436 00:18:51,652 --> 00:18:54,133 Well, Al, looks like it's just you and I, like old times. 437 00:18:57,788 --> 00:19:00,095 FRED: The waves are just getting too rough. 438 00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:01,705 The wind's coming out of the west. 439 00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:03,011 It's coming way too heavy. 440 00:19:05,361 --> 00:19:06,928 If I had a choice, I'd call the day. 441 00:19:12,716 --> 00:19:14,849 STEVE: This is the Hackley home.It t 442 00:19:14,892 --> 00:19:17,156 out on the waters of Lake Michigan, 443 00:19:17,199 --> 00:19:19,854 as Kevin Dykstra is trying to decide 444 00:19:19,897 --> 00:19:21,856 if he and his brother Al 445 00:19:21,899 --> 00:19:24,685 can make a critically important dive... 446 00:19:24,728 --> 00:19:28,776 one that could verify if what they saw last year 447 00:19:28,819 --> 00:19:30,473 is, in fact, a debris field 448 00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:33,476 containing bars of Civil War gold. 449 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,305 Unfortunately, the water on the lake 450 00:19:36,349 --> 00:19:39,830 has taken a turn for the worse. 451 00:19:39,874 --> 00:19:40,918 We need to see what's down there. 452 00:19:44,618 --> 00:19:46,968 BRIAN: We can do that, but if you want to get in the water, 453 00:19:47,011 --> 00:19:49,275 having been a diver myself for many years, 454 00:19:49,318 --> 00:19:51,190 I think it's a very, uh... 455 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:54,280 dangerous situation to put a diver in. 456 00:19:54,323 --> 00:19:56,238 It's rough. 457 00:19:56,282 --> 00:19:58,936 It's coming way too heavy. 458 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:02,549 We've only had one incident where you got hurt, 459 00:20:02,592 --> 00:20:04,725 and that's because we went in when we shouldn't have. 460 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,077 NARRATOR: Last year, 461 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,906 while Kevin and the team were attempting a dive 462 00:20:11,949 --> 00:20:14,300 to locate the boxcar in this very area, 463 00:20:14,343 --> 00:20:17,520 high winds and rough waters led 464 00:20:17,564 --> 00:20:20,131 to a near-disastrous accident. 465 00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:23,134 [grunts] 466 00:20:38,411 --> 00:20:42,458 ALEX: I think, in the name of safety, we should probably wait 467 00:20:42,502 --> 00:20:43,807 for a little calmer weather. 468 00:20:43,851 --> 00:20:45,331 It just doesn't make sense to me. 469 00:20:45,374 --> 00:20:47,333 AL: I mean, you can see the whitecaps. 470 00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:50,901 We typically won't dive with whitecaps. 471 00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:52,947 -It's just too hard. -ALEX: No, I mean, you can get in just fine, 472 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:55,210 but getting back on the boat's where you run into problems. 473 00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,386 Right, yeah, you have the boat hit you in the head, 474 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:58,648 and you're done. 475 00:21:00,041 --> 00:21:02,086 ALEX: I think we have time 476 00:21:02,130 --> 00:21:04,437 in the schedule to wait for calmer weather, 477 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,569 whether that's later today or tomorrow. 478 00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:09,224 NARRATOR: For Kevin, 479 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,445 the situation represents an agonizing dilemma. 480 00:21:12,488 --> 00:21:15,143 He has come so close to what he thinks 481 00:21:15,186 --> 00:21:18,015 could be the discovery of a lifetime, 482 00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:20,453 only to be unable to find out 483 00:21:20,496 --> 00:21:22,672 whether all his efforts to locate the missing gold 484 00:21:22,716 --> 00:21:25,327 have paid off. 485 00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:27,024 KEVIN: It's a bitter pill when somebody tells you, 486 00:21:27,068 --> 00:21:28,722 you can't dive, 487 00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:31,464 or you shouldn't dive, when we really want to. 488 00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:34,423 Yeah. 489 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:36,991 Why don't we head back in? 490 00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,428 -All right. -Yeah. 491 00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:40,821 But, then, common sense comes in. 492 00:21:40,864 --> 00:21:42,213 It just wasn't safe. 493 00:21:42,257 --> 00:21:43,954 I'm agreeing with you. 494 00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:46,217 I think what we need to do is get this equipment 495 00:21:46,261 --> 00:21:48,002 back up, and, uh, give it a couple hours 496 00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:49,220 and see if the lake calms down 497 00:21:49,264 --> 00:21:50,396 -a little bit. -Mm-hmm. Yeah. 498 00:21:50,439 --> 00:21:51,527 -That sounds right. -I agree. 499 00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:52,963 I think it's a good move. 500 00:21:53,007 --> 00:21:54,878 KEVIN: I think it just goes to show 501 00:21:54,922 --> 00:21:57,707 that no matter what technology, 502 00:21:57,751 --> 00:21:59,535 what resources you throw at it, 503 00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:01,450 the lake will always win. 504 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:07,238 NARRATOR: While Kevin and the team reluctantly return to shore 505 00:22:07,282 --> 00:22:08,979 to wait for calmer weather, 506 00:22:09,023 --> 00:22:12,461 back in downtown Muskegon... 507 00:22:12,505 --> 00:22:14,550 BRAD: Let's go down towards Terrace Street, right? 508 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:16,378 Yeah, that's right. 509 00:22:16,422 --> 00:22:18,380 NARRATOR: ...history teacher Brad Richards 510 00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:22,341 and team researcher Jeff Zehr, along with local resident 511 00:22:22,384 --> 00:22:24,734 and former bank employee Steve Habetler, 512 00:22:24,778 --> 00:22:28,303 are traveling to a house which they believe contains 513 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:30,523 a secret, underground tunnel. 514 00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:34,788 A tunnel that supposedly leads directly into the basement 515 00:22:34,831 --> 00:22:37,791 of Charles Hackley's former home. 516 00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:39,836 BRAD: Steve, 517 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,925 you said you knew about some-some tunnels? 518 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:42,970 STEVE: Correct. 519 00:22:43,013 --> 00:22:45,320 The rumors that I had heard, 520 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:49,280 had them spiderwebbing out all over this town. 521 00:22:49,324 --> 00:22:53,676 There's a house near the Hackley house, 522 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,983 that was a starting point for the tunnels 523 00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:58,333 -that I had heard about. -No kidding. 524 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:00,291 Yes. There it is. 525 00:23:00,335 --> 00:23:03,686 See? Now this is the Hackley home right here. 526 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:05,427 BRAD: Yup, there's the Hackley home. 527 00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:07,734 Can you point out which house you think had the tunnel 528 00:23:07,777 --> 00:23:09,562 going underneath the street to Hackley's mansion? 529 00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:12,434 Yup, that house right there. 530 00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:15,132 That belonged to another one of the millionaires. 531 00:23:15,176 --> 00:23:18,179 This house connected to the Hackley house 532 00:23:18,222 --> 00:23:20,964 underneath the street by a tunnel. 533 00:23:21,008 --> 00:23:24,533 NARRATOR: In 1897, 534 00:23:24,577 --> 00:23:26,927 Muskegon, Michigan's most prominent citizen, 535 00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:28,711 Charles Hackley, 536 00:23:28,755 --> 00:23:33,586 built a three-story, Victorian-style mansion. 537 00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:36,066 Having already established great wealth 538 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:39,069 as a lumber baron before the Civil War, 539 00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:42,116 afterward, Hackley's wealth grew exponentially 540 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,945 as he entered both the railroad 541 00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,861 and banking industries. 542 00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:51,517 At the time of his death in 1905, 543 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,128 Charles Hackley had a declared net worth 544 00:23:54,171 --> 00:23:56,957 of just over $3 million. 545 00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:02,397 However, he left an estimated $12 million 546 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,355 to local charities. 547 00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:07,358 Could the disparity between Hackley's great wealth 548 00:24:07,402 --> 00:24:09,448 and all he left behind 549 00:24:09,491 --> 00:24:11,972 be due to his involvement in a plot 550 00:24:12,015 --> 00:24:14,801 to steal a portion of the Confederate treasury, 551 00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:18,718 as Kevin Dykstra believes? 552 00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:21,242 So, Steve, you're saying this house here 553 00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:23,418 has a tunnel, all the way underneath the street, 554 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,986 -over to the Hackley mansion? -That's correct. 555 00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:29,163 To the livery stable. 556 00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:30,686 BRAD: To the Hackley house 557 00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:32,253 -livery stable. -STEVE: Livery stable. 558 00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,864 And then, according to rumor, 559 00:24:34,908 --> 00:24:39,347 that tunnel then continued on down to the south, 560 00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:41,001 underneath the street, 561 00:24:41,044 --> 00:24:44,352 heading down the hill towards downtown, 562 00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:48,530 and, eventually, to Charles Hackley's office 563 00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:52,708 and also the train depot. 564 00:24:52,752 --> 00:24:54,362 -JEFF: Wow. -Wow. [chuckles] 565 00:24:54,405 --> 00:24:55,885 I was just gonna say. I was just gonna say that. 566 00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:57,496 You're saying there was a tunnel 567 00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,149 from his house to the train depot? 568 00:24:59,193 --> 00:25:01,543 -Correct. Mm-hmm. -Wow. 569 00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:04,372 NARRATOR: A tunnel system? 570 00:25:04,415 --> 00:25:06,679 According to Kevin Dykstra's theory, 571 00:25:06,722 --> 00:25:08,724 in the late 1860s, 572 00:25:08,768 --> 00:25:11,292 Charles Hackley built a private rail line 573 00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,816 from Ferrysburg, Michigan, to Muskegon, 574 00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:15,557 where it literally came to an end 575 00:25:15,601 --> 00:25:18,081 outside his downtown office. 576 00:25:18,125 --> 00:25:20,562 If, in fact, a tunnel exists 577 00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:23,522 connecting Hackley's home to his office, 578 00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:26,612 it is more than possible he used that tunnel 579 00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:30,224 to secretly transport the stolen gold. 580 00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,139 We could research and find out 581 00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:33,749 who owns that now and see if we can get in the basement 582 00:25:33,793 --> 00:25:35,185 -and check it out. -STEVE: Yeah. I'm sure if you 583 00:25:35,229 --> 00:25:36,883 contacted somebody, 584 00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:39,755 -they could let you walk through there. -Yeah. 585 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,452 BRAD: If there's a tunnel between those two houses, 586 00:25:41,496 --> 00:25:43,629 it says a lot could have been going on here 587 00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:45,065 that was covered up. 588 00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:47,110 The only reason you'd need a tunnel 589 00:25:47,154 --> 00:25:50,026 is if you were hiding something, had to move something in secret, 590 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:51,941 or you just wanted to move in secret. 591 00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:54,770 I feel like we have to try to find this tunnel, 592 00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:58,252 so we have to try to get a peek inside this house. 593 00:25:58,295 --> 00:26:02,125 It all adds up to there was more to this town 594 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:05,085 -than a lot of people realize. -[laughs] A lot more. 595 00:26:05,128 --> 00:26:07,391 -[chuckles] -STEVE: And I'm sure 596 00:26:07,435 --> 00:26:09,698 that those tunnels will find their start 597 00:26:09,742 --> 00:26:12,832 -at Hackley Bank. -Yeah. 598 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:15,312 STEVE: I'm getting more and more excited 599 00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:17,619 about the potential of the mystery being solved. 600 00:26:17,663 --> 00:26:20,230 BRAD: That gold went somewhere. 601 00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:29,283 Okay, two divers in the water!, 602 00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:31,938 as Kevin Dykstra and his team 603 00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:35,506 are about to attempt another dive into Lake Michigan. 604 00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:39,119 If successful, they will be able to explore 605 00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:41,034 a debris field that Kevin believes 606 00:26:41,077 --> 00:26:43,776 contains some $140 million 607 00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:46,648 in lost Civil War gold. 608 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:49,782 These are definitely the seas we're looking for. 609 00:26:49,825 --> 00:26:52,654 -It's a lot better. -KEVIN: These are nice. 610 00:26:52,698 --> 00:26:54,700 Brian, can we start getting this thing ready to deploy? 611 00:26:54,743 --> 00:26:55,744 Yeah, absolutely. 612 00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,268 KEVIN: You got that. 613 00:26:58,312 --> 00:27:01,881 NARRATOR: Mark Holley and Alex Lagina 614 00:27:01,924 --> 00:27:03,665 lower the sector scan sonar device 615 00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:06,059 back into the water to guide 616 00:27:06,102 --> 00:27:08,104 the three divers to potential targets 617 00:27:08,148 --> 00:27:10,716 that merit inspection. 618 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,195 MARK: We're on bottom. 43. 619 00:27:12,239 --> 00:27:13,762 BRIAN: Roger that. On bottom. 620 00:27:13,806 --> 00:27:18,027 We have the debris field right in here, 621 00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:21,161 and you've got another debris field another 20 feet out here. 622 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,512 KEVIN: So, really, if we do a radius around the tripod 623 00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:26,819 of about 20 feet, we're gonna see all of those targets. 624 00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:29,082 -Yes, you should. -All right, let's get our gear on. 625 00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,387 -I want to get down there. -AL: Yeah, let's do it. 626 00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:35,784 Okay. Diver in the water! 627 00:27:35,828 --> 00:27:37,873 NARRATOR: While Kevin 628 00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:41,007 and Dr. Holley will be equipped with underwater cameras, 629 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,792 Al Dykstra will be using a metal detector 630 00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:47,100 able to discriminate ferrous metals, such as iron, 631 00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,710 from non-ferrous metals 632 00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,712 such as silver or gold. 633 00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:55,151 Third diver on the surface! 634 00:27:55,195 --> 00:27:57,023 ALEX: I'm really excited 635 00:27:57,066 --> 00:27:58,241 that the guys are gonna head down. 636 00:27:58,285 --> 00:28:00,156 Comm check, Mark? 637 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,811 ALEX: With the sector scan to locate the targets 638 00:28:02,855 --> 00:28:05,292 and the metal detectors to investigate them, 639 00:28:05,335 --> 00:28:06,859 yeah, this could be a dive that-that finds us 640 00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:07,773 some gold, honestly. 641 00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:27,096 Copy. 642 00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:17,190 All right. 643 00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:19,322 What do you see? 644 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,462 [beeping] 645 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:34,511 You think it'd be more non-ferrous? 646 00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:35,991 ALEX: I don't know. If it is non-ferrous, 647 00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:38,341 there's only a few things it could be. 648 00:29:40,126 --> 00:29:41,954 -[beeping] -NARRATOR: In order to confirm 649 00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:45,696 that the hit is a high-pitched, non-ferrous signal, 650 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:49,048 Kevin Dykstra listens for himself with Al's headphones. 651 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:52,616 [beeping] 652 00:30:03,497 --> 00:30:07,240 NARRATOR: Even though it's possible Kevin and Al 653 00:30:07,283 --> 00:30:09,242 have located something that could be made 654 00:30:09,285 --> 00:30:12,027 of precious metal buried beneath the sand, 655 00:30:12,071 --> 00:30:15,814 they currently do not have a legal permit that allows them 656 00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:19,382 to dig or even retrieve artifacts on the lake bottom. 657 00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:23,386 I already got it. 658 00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:24,779 Brian marked the spot. 659 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,955 We have it on the sonar. 660 00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:29,871 NARRATOR: Brian Abbott has pinpointed the location 661 00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,655 of the debris field. 662 00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:33,875 The team can now use this information 663 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,703 in their application 664 00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:38,227 to the State of Michigan for a salvaging permit. 665 00:30:41,796 --> 00:30:43,058 FRED: Copy that. 666 00:30:43,102 --> 00:30:44,451 Keep looking and get excited. 667 00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:47,367 I want to know about the gold, boys. 668 00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:49,891 Copy that. 669 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:53,503 NARRATOR: In order to make it back safely to the boat, 670 00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:56,376 Kevin, Al, and Dr. Holley 671 00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:58,857 can only stay on the lake bottom until their tanks 672 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:01,033 are down to 500 pounds of air. 673 00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:28,843 KEVIN: In the footage 674 00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,325 of what we believe is a gold bar, we clearly see cable. 675 00:31:32,368 --> 00:31:35,197 Al and I have always said, "Find the cable, find the gold." 676 00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:37,896 And we were on top of that cable. 677 00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:46,469 near the city of Frankfort, 678 00:31:46,513 --> 00:31:48,863 brothers Kevin and Al Dykstra, 679 00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,343 along with underwater archaeologist 680 00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:53,346 Dr. Mark Holley, may have just made 681 00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,957 an incredible discovery. 682 00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:01,702 They have located what they believe 683 00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,444 to be the debris field where, last year, 684 00:32:04,487 --> 00:32:06,185 Kevin photographed what he thinks 685 00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:10,102 could have been one of the missing gold bars. 686 00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:25,117 [filtered breathing over comms] 687 00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,345 [rapid beeping] 688 00:32:42,612 --> 00:32:45,006 Divers, I would like you to stop. 689 00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:46,660 I want you to give me an air check. 690 00:32:46,703 --> 00:32:48,618 You're breathing awful heavy. 691 00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:55,103 Come on up. Your time is up. 692 00:33:00,195 --> 00:33:03,024 -W-We marked it. -We marked the spot. 693 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,635 Brian marked the spot. We have it on the sonar. 694 00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:08,464 Come on up. 695 00:33:08,508 --> 00:33:10,640 Al was getting high-pitched hits on the metal detector, 696 00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,381 no different than what happened last year. 697 00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:14,253 See, there might be gold bars 698 00:33:14,296 --> 00:33:16,429 laying all over the bottom down there, 699 00:33:16,472 --> 00:33:19,736 but we just can't get to it yet. 700 00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:23,610 NARRATOR: Unfortunately for Kevin, Al and Dr. Holley, 701 00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:26,308 after more than a half hour on the lake bottom, 702 00:33:26,352 --> 00:33:28,658 their air supplies are running too low 703 00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:30,921 to continue their investigation... 704 00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,271 at least for now. 705 00:33:32,314 --> 00:33:33,881 Time for de-co, come on up. 706 00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:44,283 Have you left the bottom yet? 707 00:33:49,462 --> 00:33:50,985 Copy that, thank you. 708 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,682 NARRATOR: Decompression sickness, 709 00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:54,467 also known as the bends, 710 00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:57,209 could pose a serious threat to the divers. 711 00:33:57,252 --> 00:34:00,168 It occurs when gases like nitrogen 712 00:34:00,212 --> 00:34:02,301 become highly compressed in the body 713 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,564 when a diver is underwater. 714 00:34:04,607 --> 00:34:06,261 When they rise to the surface, 715 00:34:06,305 --> 00:34:08,437 they must do so in short stages, 716 00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:11,136 allowing their body to decompress. 717 00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:14,356 Failing to do so can cause the gases to expand 718 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,403 and form bubbles in the bloodstream. 719 00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:22,103 This, in turn, leads to intense joint pain, vertigo, seizures 720 00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:24,801 and, in some cases, death. 721 00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:27,717 Your two minutes are up. You can surface. 722 00:34:29,676 --> 00:34:31,112 KEVIN: When you're diving, you have 723 00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:33,027 to keep track of your air pressure. 724 00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:35,508 You just don't have that luxury of taking your time. 725 00:34:35,551 --> 00:34:38,250 I-It's really hard to explain, because it's not like 726 00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,252 you can just sit down there. 727 00:34:40,295 --> 00:34:42,558 Okay, diver on surface. 728 00:34:42,602 --> 00:34:44,778 NARRATOR: Despite having to return to the surface, 729 00:34:44,821 --> 00:34:48,303 the dive operation has been successful. 730 00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:51,698 The team has not only located the place where, last year, 731 00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:55,005 Kevin obtained footage of a possible gold bar, 732 00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:59,532 they also mapped the area with a sector scan sonar device. 733 00:34:59,575 --> 00:35:01,142 -BRIAN: Divers are well? -We're good. 734 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:03,405 You're good? Okay. 735 00:35:03,449 --> 00:35:05,190 -KEVIN: We're good. -Did you hear that non-ferrous hit? 736 00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:06,539 -Oh, I did. -[chuckles] 737 00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:08,410 ALEX: We heard you screaming about it. 738 00:35:08,454 --> 00:35:10,195 I was gonna say, maybe you got a little excited down there. 739 00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:12,153 KEVIN: When we saw that cable right there, 740 00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:14,764 we were right back exactly there. 741 00:35:14,808 --> 00:35:16,418 Yeah, and the metal detector was going... [imitates beeping] 742 00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:17,898 KEVIN: Yep, yep, yep. 743 00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:20,205 -That was fun. -Now, that's a dive. 744 00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:22,163 Yep. 745 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:24,470 To see that debris field, to see 746 00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:27,299 the objects on the bottom of the lake, it's huge for us, 747 00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:29,475 and everything's lining up. 748 00:35:29,518 --> 00:35:33,609 So we are very hopeful that we'll see that gold very soon. 749 00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,003 You think you saw any evidence of the potential gold bar, 750 00:35:36,046 --> 00:35:37,657 -or no? -I didn't. 751 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,920 You know, I wanted to get right into that gravel 752 00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:44,272 and move it out but I heard him chirping in my ear. 753 00:35:44,316 --> 00:35:46,840 "Can't touch nothing," so we just fanned above it, 754 00:35:46,883 --> 00:35:48,407 -I didn't touch nothing. -That's the right way to do it. 755 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,714 I mean, nothing. We left every stone unturned. 756 00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:54,064 I'm gonna say that is our spot. 757 00:35:54,108 --> 00:35:55,718 -Yes. -That's where we were. 758 00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:57,981 Thanks to the sector scan, we have GPS coordinates. 759 00:35:58,025 --> 00:35:59,940 -Awesome. -Seriously? We got it? 760 00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:02,377 -So we're right there. -Oh! 761 00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:04,074 BRIAN: I think I can build you 762 00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:07,034 a photomosaic of your area, where you've been, 763 00:36:07,077 --> 00:36:09,863 to, you know, show you the areas where 764 00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:11,995 you've covered with your metal detector and everything. 765 00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,215 I can't wait to see that mosaic 766 00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:16,565 that Brian puts together with all that data, 767 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:19,960 so we can take that to the state of Michigan and help 768 00:36:20,003 --> 00:36:22,180 our chances to excavate this site. 769 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,399 ALEX: We did great today. 770 00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:26,488 We did about as well as we could have today, I think, 771 00:36:26,532 --> 00:36:28,403 and there's a lot more to do, but I got to get back 772 00:36:28,447 --> 00:36:30,536 -to Oak Island. -No. 773 00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:33,060 We're-we're pretty shorthanded out there right now, so... 774 00:36:33,103 --> 00:36:34,714 Tell your dad. Tell him you need to be here. 775 00:36:34,757 --> 00:36:38,021 Honestly, when I talk to my dad, nothing but good things. 776 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:40,067 But when we get the permit, I'm back. 777 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,156 Fair-fair enough. It's-it's great having you here. 778 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,592 -There's no doubt about it. -Mm-hmm. 779 00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:45,594 I appreciate the opportunity to be here. 780 00:36:45,638 --> 00:36:47,596 Hey, Larry, can you, uh, get us back to shore? 781 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,642 Sure. No problem. 782 00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:51,252 -It was a good day. -Yeah. 783 00:36:51,296 --> 00:36:51,948 ALEX: Yup. 784 00:36:59,608 --> 00:37:02,611 NARRATOR: Two days after a sonar and diving operation 785 00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:05,919 which produced potential evidence of some $140 million 786 00:37:05,962 --> 00:37:08,574 at the bottom of Lake Michigan... 787 00:37:08,617 --> 00:37:10,445 Let's get Marty and Alex on the phone. 788 00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:12,447 NARRATOR: ...Kevin Dykstra and his team gather 789 00:37:12,491 --> 00:37:15,407 in his Muskegon workshop for a video conference 790 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:18,540 with Marty and Alex Lagina. 791 00:37:18,584 --> 00:37:21,195 -BRAD: Here they are. -Hey. 792 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,805 -KEVIN: Hey, guys. How are you? -There you are. 793 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:24,764 -MARTY: Hey, guys! -JEFF: Hello! 794 00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:26,679 -BRAD: Hey, Marty and Alex. -Hi, Marty! 795 00:37:26,722 --> 00:37:28,289 -Howdy, howdy. -Hey. 796 00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:29,551 I see you made it back to the island, Alex? 797 00:37:29,595 --> 00:37:30,987 Did-did you have a good trip back? 798 00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:32,946 I did, yeah. It was a lengthy one. 799 00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:35,427 I got delayed a couple times, but I made it eventually. 800 00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:36,819 KEVIN: I'm glad to hear that. 801 00:37:36,863 --> 00:37:38,430 What's going on on the island? 802 00:37:38,473 --> 00:37:40,301 Is there anything you can share from up there? 803 00:37:40,345 --> 00:37:43,435 Well, Kevin, I got to be a little circumspect about that. 804 00:37:43,478 --> 00:37:45,872 I would say, stay tuned. 805 00:37:45,915 --> 00:37:47,656 [laughter] 806 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,964 What we are is thirsty for news. 807 00:37:51,007 --> 00:37:52,748 KEVIN: Well, we investigated 808 00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:54,968 two different sites. One of them 809 00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:57,536 is where we saw what looked like a boxcar. 810 00:37:57,579 --> 00:37:59,407 -Oh, yes. -We got 811 00:37:59,451 --> 00:38:01,670 great images of-of that target. 812 00:38:01,714 --> 00:38:03,759 Then we went over to the area where 813 00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:05,370 we believe we filmed that gold bar. 814 00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:07,241 Okay. 815 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,678 KEVIN: We were getting signals from the metal detector, 816 00:38:09,722 --> 00:38:11,637 which could be gold or silver. 817 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,074 Wow. That's pretty cool. 818 00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,729 -We're pretty excited about this, guys. -It must be 819 00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:19,035 exciting and frustrating, I imagine, 'cause you know 820 00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:20,776 legally, you-you probably want to 821 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:22,517 just at least dig with your foot, I'll bet. 822 00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:24,780 -[Al laughs] -Yeah. 823 00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:26,391 You know, what you said Marty, times ten. 824 00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,784 -All right, good. -[laughing] 825 00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:30,960 Literally, we could be an inch away 826 00:38:31,004 --> 00:38:32,962 from millions of dollars' worth of gold, 827 00:38:33,006 --> 00:38:35,225 but legally, we can't do it. 828 00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:38,098 Okay, well, that's as good as you can do. 829 00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:40,100 I mean, until you can move some dirt, 830 00:38:40,143 --> 00:38:42,624 you probably are about as far as you can get, right? 831 00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:44,278 I mean, isn't that a fair statement? 832 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,149 -Yeah, exactly right. -Yeah. 833 00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:48,326 MARTY: Okay, well, do you happen 834 00:38:48,369 --> 00:38:51,764 to know what the criteria are to get a permit? 835 00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:54,157 You know, honestly, we're hoping that, 836 00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,246 you know, with Brian Abbott's help and his expertise 837 00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,249 in putting a mosaic diagram together 838 00:38:59,293 --> 00:39:01,861 of the bottom of the lake, that it'll be compelling enough 839 00:39:01,904 --> 00:39:05,691 to go to the state and possibly get that permit, 840 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:07,475 and that's really where we're at right now. 841 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:09,477 Understood, but who gets the gold bar? 842 00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:12,437 [laughter] 843 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,482 -Hopefully, we do. -[laughter] 844 00:39:14,526 --> 00:39:17,050 KEVIN: Marty really feels like I do-- 845 00:39:17,093 --> 00:39:19,008 that we're moving this search forward, 846 00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:21,097 but it's hard. 847 00:39:21,141 --> 00:39:23,273 It's hard to look and not touch, 848 00:39:23,317 --> 00:39:25,711 'cause we don't want to be in trouble with the state. 849 00:39:25,754 --> 00:39:28,844 We need to secure that permit from the state of Michigan. 850 00:39:28,888 --> 00:39:32,065 You know, you-you got this going with the state. That's great. 851 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:33,762 That's the obvious next step, but in the interim, 852 00:39:33,806 --> 00:39:35,460 what are you gonna be working on? 853 00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:37,766 You know what, guys? You're gonna be excited by this. 854 00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:41,944 We have an older fella with firsthand experience 855 00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:46,514 in a secret vault in the bottom of Hackley National Bank. 856 00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:48,429 So, wait a minute. This guy's talking about 857 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:51,127 -a secret vault in the bank? -That's right, and 858 00:39:51,171 --> 00:39:52,912 in addition to that, 859 00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,828 he says there were secret tunnels in Muskegon, 860 00:39:55,871 --> 00:39:58,657 -underneath Charles Hackley's house. -MARTY: Wow. 861 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,747 Oh, I-I... I'm gonna just, you know, make a wild guess. 862 00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:03,139 You're gonna go find that tunnel. Is that right? 863 00:40:03,183 --> 00:40:05,794 [laughs] That's the plan. 864 00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:07,753 -You gonna be able to get access? -Well, that's what 865 00:40:07,796 --> 00:40:10,408 -we're working on right now. -Do it! 866 00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:13,106 [laughter] 867 00:40:13,149 --> 00:40:15,151 Guys, you're doing great, and, uh, you know, 868 00:40:15,195 --> 00:40:17,197 we obviously wish you a ton of luck. 869 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,981 Get down in that tunnel, get those permits, 870 00:40:19,025 --> 00:40:20,766 and let's talk again soon. 871 00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:23,508 Any-any idea when we can get Alex back? 872 00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:26,336 I will be back there as soon as I can, Kevin, trust me. 873 00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:27,729 All right. Look-Looking forward to it. Thanks, guys. 874 00:40:27,773 --> 00:40:29,035 See you guys. Thanks for the call. 875 00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:30,471 -See ya. -See you guys. 876 00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:31,820 -AL: See you guys. -FRED: Bye-bye now. 877 00:40:31,864 --> 00:40:32,952 KEVIN: I know you heard Marty. 878 00:40:32,995 --> 00:40:35,302 Let's get back to work. 879 00:40:35,345 --> 00:40:39,437 NARRATOR: For the past eight years, Kevin Dykstra 880 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,440 has been following an incredible trail of clues... 881 00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:45,704 a trail that may soon lead to not only millions 882 00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:48,184 in stolen Civil War gold, 883 00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:51,666 but also the truth behind a carefully-constructed 884 00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:54,974 conspiracy that could rewrite history. 885 00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:57,063 But will Kevin and his team 886 00:40:57,106 --> 00:40:59,718 make their next breakthrough discovery 887 00:40:59,761 --> 00:41:03,417 deep down in the frigid waters of a lake? 888 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:07,247 Or will it be in a tunnel 889 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:09,815 beneath a millionaire's mansion, 890 00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:11,773 where secrets could be hiding 891 00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:14,994 that are more shocking and disturbing 892 00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:17,692 than anyone could imagine? 893 00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:25,787 NARRATOR: Next time on The Curse of Civil War Gold... 894 00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:28,529 -Wow. -That's something right there about nine foot down. 895 00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:30,226 We're walking right on top of the tunnel. 896 00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:31,619 Do you feel that's a man-made 897 00:41:31,663 --> 00:41:33,316 structure on the bottom of the lake? 898 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,057 -Oh, yeah. -Go get the permit. 899 00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:36,885 BRAD: Charles Hackley had secrets to keep, 900 00:41:36,929 --> 00:41:39,366 -no doubt in my mind. -So, you like secrets, huh? 901 00:41:39,409 --> 00:41:41,499 -What kind of secrets? -I'm gonna show you something 902 00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:43,631 -in the basement. -Oh, look at there! 903 00:41:43,675 --> 00:41:46,025 -[drill whirring] -Yeah, you're through it. 904 00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:47,809 -Look at it. -Oh, wow. 905 00:41:47,853 --> 00:41:50,203 JEFF: This could lead right to Hackley's side door! 906 00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:52,248 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 66971

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