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Sonar's picking up
a bunch of targets.
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We're right there, the gold bar.
I want to get down there.
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BRIAN:
Okay, diver in the water!
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There were secret tunnels
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underneath
Charles Hackley's house.
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You're saying there
was a tunnel from his house
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-to the train depot?
-Correct.
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BRAD: The only reason
you'd need a tunnel
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is if you were
hiding something,
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had to move something
in secret.
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-All right.
-You're saying
there was a third vault.
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STEVE: Yep, that's when
they pulled the bags out.
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-Bags of what?
-Gold.
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Bags of gold?
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♪
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AL: Are you excited
to get back to Frankfort?
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I am so excited
to get back to Frankfort.
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-So am I.
-$140 million worth of gold,
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-just waiting for us to find it.
-[chuckles]
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NARRATOR:
In the northern, lakeside town
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of Frankfort, Michigan,
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researcher and treasure hunter
Kevin Dykstra,
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along with
his younger brother Al,
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believe they could be
just days, if not hours,
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from making
a history-changing discovery.
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I think we're right there,
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where that gold
is buried under the surface.
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-I know we're in the right area.
-Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
They are hoping to confirm
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the precise location
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of a sunken railway boxcar
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containing a fortune
in lost Civil War gold.
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I can't wait to see
how the sector scan sonar works
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-that Dr. Holley is bringing.
-Yeah, me, too.
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I personally would love
to be able to show
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-that our theory was right...
-Yeah.
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...and here's the proof of it.
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-Absolutely.
-Yeah.
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NARRATOR: According
to Kevin Dykstra's research,
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when Confederate president
Jefferson Davis was arrested
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in 1865,
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six wagons filled with gold,
silver and jewels
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taken from the Confederate
treasury were found with him.
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The stolen cargo
was then confiscated
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by Lieutenant Colonel
Benjamin Pritchard
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who, acting under orders,
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later arranged for it
to be transferred by railroad
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north to Muskegon, Michigan
and into the waiting hands
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of lumber tycoon-turned-banker
Charles Hackley,
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who began laundering it,
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first through
the local banking system
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and then through a number
of his gold mines out west.
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According to
a deathbed confession
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made by a lighthouse keeper
more than 100 years ago,
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one of Hackley's
secret shipments
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was deliberately pushed off
a ferry and into Lake Michigan
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somewhere near the city
of Frankfort,
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where it remains to this day.
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KEVIN: Yeah, I can't wait
to get this started.
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-AL: Me, too.
-This is gonna be fun.
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-Yeah?
-Yep, got it.
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-Gentlemen.
-Hey, guys.
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-How are you?
-BRIAN: Good.
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-Hey, guys.
-Hey, what's happening?
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-How are you?
-Good, good.
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KEVIN: Holy smokes.
Look at all this stuff.
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Guys, this is, uh, Brian Abbott.
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-Brian, nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.
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Brian. You gonna help us
find that gold?
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[chuckles]
Well, we'll see about that one.
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[laughter]
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-Brian actually helped us
a lot on Oak Island.
-Oh, wow.
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-Hopefully, it works out
for us today, right?
-Yeah.
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Here we go. Yep.
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NARRATOR:
For the past six years,
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underwater imaging expert
Brian Abbott
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has been helping brothers
Rick and Marty Lagina...
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-Look at that.
-...in their quest
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to solve the 223-year-old
treasure mystery
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on Oak Island, in Nova Scotia.
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He has also played
a key role in a number
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of high-profile
sonar operations,
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including the first
complete mapping
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of the RMSTitanic in 2010.
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What this is,
is this is a scanning sonar.
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I think it's a really nice tool
to give you some information
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and data that will be useful
for you to help build
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an understanding
of what's going on down there.
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I'm chomping at the bit
to get this thing in the water.
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So let's get this stuff
loaded on the boat.
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-Sounds good, let's go.
-Absolutely.
-All right.
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NARRATOR: Today, Brian will be
using sonar technology
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to help Kevin and the team
map the underwater structure
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they discovered last week,
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along with the nearby
debris field,
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where they may have spotted
a gold bar last year.
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MARK: So, what our plans
for today, guys,
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are why don't we go out
to the square structure
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that we dove on last time,
and then we'll move on
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to the debris field and spend
the rest of our time
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imaging and mapping that.
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NARRATOR: Last week,
Kevin and the team found
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what they believe to be a
section of a possible boxcar.
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Using a metal detector,
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they also obtained indications
of non-ferrous
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or possibly precious
metal objects.
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If Kevin and the team
can verify his findings,
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he can then apply
for the permits he needs
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from the State of Michigan
to excavate the area.
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So these images that we get,
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will that help us
in the permitting process?
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MARK:
Absolutely, that's gonna be
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the very first thing
the state asks for,
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is they're gonna want to see
a survey of that entire area.
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-KEVIN: Okay.
-So let's get to the site.
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Get this thing underway.
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NARRATOR:
Using side-scan sonar
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and the GPS coordinates
obtained last week...
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You're right on line...
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NARRATOR:
...Dr. Mark Holley
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guides the team
to the location
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of the potential remains
of the boxcar.
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MARK:
On our GPS, we're 60 feet,
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so we're coming right up on it,
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and right there it is
on the sonar.
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There it is right there.
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Slow her down,
right there, stop.
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As soon as we have anchor down,
we can set up the tripod.
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Well, let's get the tripod out.
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NARRATOR:
To map today's target areas,
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Brian Abbott will be using
a sector scanning sonar device
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called the MS1000.
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Using a steel tripod, the
MS1000 will be able to stand
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on the lake bottomo generate
a three-dimensional map
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of the surrounding environment, and any near-surface
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buried objects not visible
to the naked eye.
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Once the team has finished
mapping a series
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of different areas around
the possible boxcar remains,
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as well as the nearby
debris field,
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these individual sonar images
will be joined together
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to form what is called
a mosaic.
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Tip it back this way.
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KEVIN:
Brian wants to do enough scans
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to build
this nice, large mosaic.
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Okay, we're clear.
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KEVIN: When he puts that all together,
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it's gonna show the bottom,
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it's gonna show all
of the features on the bottom.
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We'll go off this side.
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KEVIN: And then you just have
that much more data
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to give the state and help
our chances to get the permit.
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We can get it in the water now.
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And let it go.
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AL:
There she goes.
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BRIAN:
We just slowly start
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lowering cable out
until we hit bottom.
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-What's your depth, skipper?
-49 feet.
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BRIAN:
So, let's go to, like, 60 feet.
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-We're on bottom.
-Okay, roger that.
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Okay, there it is, there.
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We got the structure here.
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Oh.
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So are you able
to measure that?
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BRIAN: Sure. I'm going to drop
this down to a lesser range,
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so we can get some better
resolution on this target.
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So what I'll do is I'll grab
my, uh, measurement tool.
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-Pick a corner right there...
-Mm-hmm.
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and drag it all the way across
and I'll mark it right there,
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and I'll measure from this
corner all the way across.
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So our dimensions that we have
we could say that it's roughly
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16 feet long,
14 and a half feet wide.
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NARRATOR: Because late-19th
century railroad boxcars
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were designed to be 36 feet
long by seven feet wide,
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is it possible that what Kevin
and the team have found
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is not a complete boxcar,
but instead a portion of one?
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Perhaps a piece that broke off
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when the gold-heavy
wooden structure
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hit the bottom of the lake.
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KEVIN:
If you look at the scan,
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there's a definite-- I'm gonna
call it a header piece
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across the north side,
but the south side is wide open,
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like there was something else
attached to it.
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AL:
Something broke off from it.
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KEVIN:
So, this could be the boxcar
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laid like this,
and then somehow broke in half
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as it come off
from the car ferry.
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-I wouldn't rule it out.
-Yeah, neither would I.
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NARRATOR: If Kevin and his team
have in fact
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located a portion of the
missing 19th-century boxcar...
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Let Alex come up here.
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...does this mean they are
close to returning
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to the area where they think
they may have discovered
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a debris field last year,
the one where Kevin believes
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he and the team
photographed evidence
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of one of the missing
Confederate gold bars?
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I think we've got the data
that we need for this location.
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-Right.
-With the wind picking up
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and the sea kind of picking up,
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I think we need
to get to that debris field.
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-Yeah.
-BRIAN: Yeah.
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BRIAN:
So let's pull the tripod,
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and we'll move
to the debris field.
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ALEX:
Watch this side scan there.
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And then just walk it back
this way, guys.
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It's inside the frame,
then we're good.
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Let me set our navigation, then.
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[engine starts]
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LARRY:
Right away, getting on it.
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Spin the nose around.
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Turning around to the west now.
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STEVEN: I was told that there
More to the northwest.
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KEVIN:
We're 55 feet from the target,
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so we should be able
to see something.
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Yeah.
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NARRATOR:
After mapping the location
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of what they think could be
a portion of a boxcar
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on the bottom of Lake Michigan,
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Kevin Dykstra and the team
are now searching for an area
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where, last year...
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-KEVIN: Right there.
-MARTY: Hmm.
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...he believes they discovered
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a debris field and a possible bar of stolen Confederate gold.
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KEVIN:
Have you spotted it yet?
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AL:
There it is. There it is.
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-MARK: Stop right there.
-KEVIN: Stop right here,
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and get it down there.
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NARRATOR: Using the sector scan
sonar device,
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underwater imaging expert
Brian Abbott will attempt
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to get a three-dimensional
image of the area.
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-On bottom.
-MARK: Okay, we should
be clear, Brian.
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BRIAN:
Roger that.
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-What do you see?
-BRIAN: Sonar's picking up
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a bunch of targets, guys.
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KEVIN: We are definitely in
the debris field as we speak.
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I bet there's 15 targets
right here.
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This is amazing.
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You know, if that boxcar
came off of that car ferry
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-and just broke apart,
that's what we'd look for.
-Mm-hmm.
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-KEVIN: That's exactly what
we'd look for.
-AL: Mm-hmm.
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All right, I'm pretty happy
with the data.
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Well, we'll do a couple more
drops and-and build a better
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-picture, is that what
you're thinking?
-BRIAN: Yeah, absolutely.
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We're ready to move.
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-AL: Start pulling it up?
-Pull her up.
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NARRATOR: Although the team
has already collected
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a large amount of data
from the debris field...
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...the more drops
they perform with
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the sector scanning device
will help Brian Abbott
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build a more comprehensive
mosaic of the area.
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It may also help Kevin
obtain permission
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from the state of Michigan
to dredge portions of the site
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and hopefully retrieve
artifacts
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and possibly gold
from the lake bed.
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60 foot will be the diameter
of our circle.
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KEVIN: I'm trying to get
as much data as I can.
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Look at that.
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KEVIN:
The map is much more thorough
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with the more places
he sets the sector scan
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and he can build
a lot better picture.
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KEVIN:
Let's call it good right here.
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I think we're far enough back,
we're gonna get more data
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at this location.
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-Are we ready to set
that down, Dr. Holley?
-MARK: Yeah.
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AL:
He's lowering it.
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Boy, I wish these waves
would calm down.
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Hang on guys,
we've got some big ones coming.
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NARRATOR: With weather
conditions on the lake
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rapidly deteriorating,
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Kevin and his team
must now work both quickly
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and carefully.
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Okay, we're on bottom.
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Roger that; on bottom.
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When we set that sector scan
on the bottom,
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it has to stay in that position
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until it's done
recording its data.
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If the wind blows us
out of position,
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we have to start all over.
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We're totally at the mercy
of Lake Michigan.
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BRIAN:
Check it out.
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That's a real interesting
target right there.
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See how that's curved?
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KEVIN:
If that is a piece
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-of cable, we're right there.
-BRIAN: Mm-hmm.
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KEVIN:
When we talk about the cable,
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it's significant because
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in the footage of what
we believe is a gold bar
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from the dive last year,
we clearly see cable.
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KEVIN:
I know where we were
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when we got that footage
of what we think is a gold bar,
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-And this is where we're at.
-AL: Yep.
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You always said,
"Find the cable, find the gold."
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[chuckles]
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NARRATOR: While Kevin continues
to supervise the mapping
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of the debris field area,
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120 miles south
in Muskegon, Michigan,
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his friends
and research partners
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Brad Richards and Jeff Zehr
have arrived at the home
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of Steve Habetler.
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-Pretty excited,
though, to meet this guy.
-Yeah.
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NARRATOR: Steve claims to have
information that could help
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verify Kevin's theory
that Confederate gold
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made its way to Michigan
after the Civil War.
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BRAD:
Any time you're talking about
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-a conspiracy like this...
-JEFF: Yeah.
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...and then you get someone
to reach out and say,
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-"Hey, I've got something...
-Mm-hmm.
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-...that you might
want to hear."
-Right.
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BRIAN:
Having people reach out to us,
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it gives us
a really big opportunity.
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There's an unexplained story
about Confederate gold
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that I really believe
we're gonna explain.
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STEVE:
Hey, there.
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-BRAD: Steve?
-I'm Steve.
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-Hi, I'm Jeff Zehr.
-Jeff, glad to meet you.
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-Brad Richards.
-Brad.
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-Glad to meet you, come on in.
-Thank you. Thank you so much
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-for having us over.
-STEVE: Not a problem.
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NARRATOR: After learning
of Kevin's incredible theory,
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Steve Habetler has offered
to share a story
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that he's kept secret
for more than 50 years.
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It concerns a job
he once held at a local ba
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founded in the early 1900s
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by associates of the late
Charles Hackley,
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the man who Kevin
believes conspired
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to launder millions
in stolen Confederate gold.
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So, Steve, when you reached out
to Kevin and I
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and said you had something
interesting to tell us
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because you worked at
Hackley Union National Bank?
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Well, I related my story
about being
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a vault boy for Hackley Bank.
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-"Vault boy"?
-STEVE: Vault boy.
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When, this was back in the '60s,
the early '60s,
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they gave me a key
to the vault and told me that
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was only one of three keys
and I...
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-Thevault?
-The vault.
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Turns out, there was more
than one vault.
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-How many vaults?
-Well...
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two official
and one not official.
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Uh, "not official."
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Because we've been
in two of the vaults.
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-Oh, lookee here.
-Look at that.
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-There's hundreds of them.
-Nice.
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NARRATOR: Last year,
after hearing rumors
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that Confederate gold
was once kept hidden
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at the Hackley Union
National Bank,
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Kevin and the team gained
access to a number of
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abandoned safe-deposit boxes
in a basement vault.
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Oh. No.
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Oh, watch out.
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NARRATOR: Although his search
turned up no sign
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-of the legendary treasure...
-Get away, get away, get away!
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NARRATOR:
...Kevin did find evidence
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of a secret tunnel.
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There's wood, I can feel nails.
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It feels like a latch
back in there.
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There's something back there.
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You're saying
there's a third vault?
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A third vault, yep.
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-Oh, okay.
-I was in the mail room
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and he said, "Now follow me,"
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so I followed him
down a hallway.
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I asked the vice president,
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"Why's that steel plate
on the wall?"
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And as I said it, I noticed
there was something like
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a doorknob, and he said
"That's not a steel plate;
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-that's another vault."
-Oh, wow.
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And that's when
they pulled the bags out.
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Bags of what?
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-Gold.
-Bags of gold?
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-Correct.
-Gold or gold coins?
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-Or, what...
-I... My...
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My memory is they were
small go-gold bars.
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Did the bars have any
identifiers on them?
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I didn't see any.
I can't remember if
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it was stamped with anything.
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And this was
the mysterious vault
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-that no one knew about?
-Correct.
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NARRATOR:
A secret vault?
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Containing gold bars at the
Hackley Union National Bank?
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Could this have been
part of the remains
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of the Confederate Treasury
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that Kevin believes
was smuggled
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to Muskegon by Charles Hackley?
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If so, does it mean
the gold that was once kept
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in the Hackley Union
National Bank
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is connected to the gold
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that Kevin is now searching for at the bottom of Lake Michigan?
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You've been keeping this
quiet for 50 years.
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I guess I was instructed,
keep this to yourself.
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Do you ever hear--
Remember hearing of any tunnels
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-at Hackley National Bank?
-Yep.
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-Have you?
-Sure did.
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Remember I told you
about the steel door?
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-Mm-hmm.
-Right? And then I was told
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that there was a tunnel
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leaving Hackley Bank,
going across the street.
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And I was told it ran underneath
a whole bunch of buildings.
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And then I was told
that there was a tunnel
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leaving Hackley mansion,
going across the street.
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NARRATOR:
Tunnels...
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connected to the Hackley
Union National Bank,
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as well as the home
of Charles Hackley?
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If so, where do they lead?
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And what might they contain?
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Could you show us where
you're talking about, exactly?
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Do you want me to drive,
or you want to drive?
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-Um, I'll drive.
-Okay.
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NARRATOR: While Brad Richards,
Jeff Zehr and Steve Habetler
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head out to investigate
a possible secret tunnel
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in Muskegon...
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back on Lake Michigan,
just outside of Frankfort,
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Kevin Dykstra, Alex Lagina and other members of their team
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continue with their sector scan
survey of the debris field.
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If you look
at this shadow right here,
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this is kind of rectangular.
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Geez!
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BRIAN:
About three feet long,
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this one individual target.
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We've always believed
that that gold
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was contained in something.
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They wouldn't
just take gold bars
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and stick 'em in a boxcar.
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They would put them
in something.
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I don't think doing any more
sonar work is gonna help us.
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-I think we need
to get in the water.
-Yep.
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I want to get down there
and see these targets.
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I agree.
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KEVIN:
The seas are getting rough.
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AL:
You doing all right, Doc Holley?
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You feeling
a little nauseous at all?
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MARK:
Oh, yeah. I'm gonna hurl soon.
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-Are you?
-Yeah.
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-Really?
-I'm doing okay,
but I'll give you some space.
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Do you think you're
in a position to dive, or no?
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00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,215
No, I'm definitely
not diving today.
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00:18:51,652 --> 00:18:54,133
Well, Al, looks like it's
just you and I, like old times.
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FRED: The waves are
just getting too rough.
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The wind's coming out
of the west.
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It's coming way too heavy.
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If I had a choice,
I'd call the day.
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STEVE:
This is the Hackley home.It t
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out on the waters
of Lake Michigan,
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as Kevin Dykstra
is trying to decide
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if he and his brother Al
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can make
a critically important dive...
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one that could verify
if what they saw last year
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is, in fact, a debris field
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containing bars
of Civil War gold.
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Unfortunately,
the water on the lake
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has taken a turn for the worse.
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We need to see
what's down there.
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BRIAN: We can do that, but if
you want to get in the water,
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having been a diver myself
for many years,
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I think it's a very, uh...
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dangerous situation
to put a diver in.
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It's rough.
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It's coming way too heavy.
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We've only had one incident
where you got hurt,
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and that's because we went in
when we shouldn't have.
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NARRATOR:
Last year,
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while Kevin and the team
were attempting a dive
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to locate the boxcar
in this very area,
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high winds and rough waters led
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to a near-disastrous accident.
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[grunts]
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ALEX: I think, in the name of
safety, we should probably wait
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for a little calmer weather.
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It just doesn't
make sense to me.
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AL: I mean,
you can see the whitecaps.
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We typically won't dive
with whitecaps.
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00:20:50,945 --> 00:20:52,947
-It's just too hard.
-ALEX: No, I mean,
you can get in just fine,
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but getting back on the boat's
where you run into problems.
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00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:57,386
Right, yeah, you have
the boat hit you in the head,
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and you're done.
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ALEX:
I think we have time
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in the schedule
to wait for calmer weather,
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whether that's later today
or tomorrow.
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NARRATOR:
For Kevin,
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the situation represents
an agonizing dilemma.
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He has come so close
to what he thinks
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could be the discovery
of a lifetime,
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only to be unable to find out
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whether all his efforts
to locate the missing gold
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have paid off.
485
00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:27,024
KEVIN: It's a bitter pill
when somebody tells you,
486
00:21:27,068 --> 00:21:28,722
you can't dive,
487
00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:31,464
or you shouldn't dive,
when we really want to.
488
00:21:31,507 --> 00:21:34,423
Yeah.
489
00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:36,991
Why don't we head back in?
490
00:21:37,034 --> 00:21:39,428
-All right.
-Yeah.
491
00:21:39,472 --> 00:21:40,821
But, then,
common sense comes in.
492
00:21:40,864 --> 00:21:42,213
It just wasn't safe.
493
00:21:42,257 --> 00:21:43,954
I'm agreeing with you.
494
00:21:43,998 --> 00:21:46,217
I think what we need to do
is get this equipment
495
00:21:46,261 --> 00:21:48,002
back up, and, uh,
give it a couple hours
496
00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:49,220
and see if the lake calms down
497
00:21:49,264 --> 00:21:50,396
-a little bit.
-Mm-hmm. Yeah.
498
00:21:50,439 --> 00:21:51,527
-That sounds right.
-I agree.
499
00:21:51,571 --> 00:21:52,963
I think it's a good move.
500
00:21:53,007 --> 00:21:54,878
KEVIN:
I think it just goes to show
501
00:21:54,922 --> 00:21:57,707
that no matter what technology,
502
00:21:57,751 --> 00:21:59,535
what resources you throw at it,
503
00:21:59,579 --> 00:22:01,450
the lake will always win.
504
00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:07,238
NARRATOR: While Kevin and the
team reluctantly return to
shore
505
00:22:07,282 --> 00:22:08,979
to wait for calmer weather,
506
00:22:09,023 --> 00:22:12,461
back in downtown Muskegon...
507
00:22:12,505 --> 00:22:14,550
BRAD: Let's go down towards
Terrace Street, right?
508
00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:16,378
Yeah, that's right.
509
00:22:16,422 --> 00:22:18,380
NARRATOR: ...history teacher
Brad Richards
510
00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:22,341
and team researcher Jeff Zehr,
along with local resident
511
00:22:22,384 --> 00:22:24,734
and former bank employee
Steve Habetler,
512
00:22:24,778 --> 00:22:28,303
are traveling to a house which
they believe contains
513
00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:30,523
a secret, underground tunnel.
514
00:22:30,566 --> 00:22:34,788
A tunnel that supposedly leads
directly into the basement
515
00:22:34,831 --> 00:22:37,791
of Charles Hackley's
former home.
516
00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:39,836
BRAD:
Steve,
517
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,925
you said you knew
about some-some tunnels?
518
00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:42,970
STEVE:
Correct.
519
00:22:43,013 --> 00:22:45,320
The rumors that I had heard,
520
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:49,280
had them spiderwebbing out
all over this town.
521
00:22:49,324 --> 00:22:53,676
There's a house
near the Hackley house,
522
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,983
that was a starting point
for the tunnels
523
00:22:56,026 --> 00:22:58,333
-that I had heard about.
-No kidding.
524
00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:00,291
Yes. There it is.
525
00:23:00,335 --> 00:23:03,686
See? Now this is
the Hackley home right here.
526
00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:05,427
BRAD:
Yup, there's the Hackley home.
527
00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:07,734
Can you point out which house
you think had the tunnel
528
00:23:07,777 --> 00:23:09,562
going underneath the street
to Hackley's mansion?
529
00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:12,434
Yup, that house right there.
530
00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:15,132
That belonged to another one
of the millionaires.
531
00:23:15,176 --> 00:23:18,179
This house connected
to the Hackley house
532
00:23:18,222 --> 00:23:20,964
underneath the street
by a tunnel.
533
00:23:21,008 --> 00:23:24,533
NARRATOR:
In 1897,
534
00:23:24,577 --> 00:23:26,927
Muskegon, Michigan's
most prominent citizen,
535
00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:28,711
Charles Hackley,
536
00:23:28,755 --> 00:23:33,586
built a three-story,
Victorian-style mansion.
537
00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:36,066
Having already established
great wealth
538
00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:39,069
as a lumber baron
before the Civil War,
539
00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:42,116
afterward, Hackley's wealth
grew exponentially
540
00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,945
as he entered both the railroad
541
00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:47,861
and banking industries.
542
00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:51,517
At the time
of his death in 1905,
543
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,128
Charles Hackley
had a declared net worth
544
00:23:54,171 --> 00:23:56,957
of just over $3 million.
545
00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:02,397
However, he left
an estimated $12 million
546
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,355
to local charities.
547
00:24:04,399 --> 00:24:07,358
Could the disparity
between Hackley's great wealth
548
00:24:07,402 --> 00:24:09,448
and all he left behind
549
00:24:09,491 --> 00:24:11,972
be due to his
involvement in a plot
550
00:24:12,015 --> 00:24:14,801
to steal a portion
of the Confederate treasury,
551
00:24:14,844 --> 00:24:18,718
as Kevin Dykstra believes?
552
00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:21,242
So, Steve,
you're saying this house here
553
00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:23,418
has a tunnel, all the way
underneath the street,
554
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,986
-over to the Hackley mansion?
-That's correct.
555
00:24:27,161 --> 00:24:29,163
To the livery stable.
556
00:24:29,206 --> 00:24:30,686
BRAD:
To the Hackley house
557
00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:32,253
-livery stable.
-STEVE: Livery stable.
558
00:24:32,296 --> 00:24:34,864
And then, according to rumor,
559
00:24:34,908 --> 00:24:39,347
that tunnel then continued on
down to the south,
560
00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:41,001
underneath the street,
561
00:24:41,044 --> 00:24:44,352
heading down the hill
towards downtown,
562
00:24:44,395 --> 00:24:48,530
and, eventually,
to Charles Hackley's office
563
00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:52,708
and also the train depot.
564
00:24:52,752 --> 00:24:54,362
-JEFF: Wow.
-Wow. [chuckles]
565
00:24:54,405 --> 00:24:55,885
I was just gonna say.
I was just gonna say that.
566
00:24:55,929 --> 00:24:57,496
You're saying there was a tunnel
567
00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,149
from his house
to the train depot?
568
00:24:59,193 --> 00:25:01,543
-Correct. Mm-hmm.
-Wow.
569
00:25:01,587 --> 00:25:04,372
NARRATOR:
A tunnel system?
570
00:25:04,415 --> 00:25:06,679
According
to Kevin Dykstra's theory,
571
00:25:06,722 --> 00:25:08,724
in the late 1860s,
572
00:25:08,768 --> 00:25:11,292
Charles Hackley
built a private rail line
573
00:25:11,335 --> 00:25:13,816
from Ferrysburg, Michigan,
to Muskegon,
574
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:15,557
where it literally came
to an end
575
00:25:15,601 --> 00:25:18,081
outside his downtown office.
576
00:25:18,125 --> 00:25:20,562
If, in fact, a tunnel exists
577
00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:23,522
connecting Hackley's home
to his office,
578
00:25:23,565 --> 00:25:26,612
it is more than possible
he used that tunnel
579
00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:30,224
to secretly transport
the stolen gold.
580
00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,139
We could research and find out
581
00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:33,749
who owns that now and see
if we can get in the basement
582
00:25:33,793 --> 00:25:35,185
-and check it out.
-STEVE: Yeah. I'm sure if you
583
00:25:35,229 --> 00:25:36,883
contacted somebody,
584
00:25:36,926 --> 00:25:39,755
-they could let you walk
through there.
-Yeah.
585
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,452
BRAD: If there's a tunnel
between those two houses,
586
00:25:41,496 --> 00:25:43,629
it says a lot
could have been going on here
587
00:25:43,672 --> 00:25:45,065
that was covered up.
588
00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:47,110
The only reason
you'd need a tunnel
589
00:25:47,154 --> 00:25:50,026
is if you were hiding something,
had to move something in secret,
590
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:51,941
or you just wanted
to move in secret.
591
00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:54,770
I feel like we have to try
to find this tunnel,
592
00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:58,252
so we have to try to get a peek inside this house.
593
00:25:58,295 --> 00:26:02,125
It all adds up to
there was more to this town
594
00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:05,085
-than a lot of people realize.
-[laughs] A lot more.
595
00:26:05,128 --> 00:26:07,391
-[chuckles]
-STEVE: And I'm sure
596
00:26:07,435 --> 00:26:09,698
that those tunnels
will find their start
597
00:26:09,742 --> 00:26:12,832
-at Hackley Bank.
-Yeah.
598
00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:15,312
STEVE: I'm getting more
and more excited
599
00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:17,619
about the potential
of the mystery being solved.
600
00:26:17,663 --> 00:26:20,230
BRAD:
That gold went somewhere.
601
00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:29,283
Okay, two divers in the water!,
602
00:26:29,326 --> 00:26:31,938
as Kevin Dykstra and his team
603
00:26:31,981 --> 00:26:35,506
are about to attempt another
dive into Lake Michigan.
604
00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:39,119
If successful,
they will be able to explore
605
00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:41,034
a debris field
that Kevin believes
606
00:26:41,077 --> 00:26:43,776
contains some $140 million
607
00:26:43,819 --> 00:26:46,648
in lost Civil War gold.
608
00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:49,782
These are definitely
the seas we're looking for.
609
00:26:49,825 --> 00:26:52,654
-It's a lot better.
-KEVIN: These are nice.
610
00:26:52,698 --> 00:26:54,700
Brian, can we start getting
this thing ready to deploy?
611
00:26:54,743 --> 00:26:55,744
Yeah, absolutely.
612
00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,268
KEVIN:
You got that.
613
00:26:58,312 --> 00:27:01,881
NARRATOR:
Mark Holley and Alex Lagina
614
00:27:01,924 --> 00:27:03,665
lower the sector scan
sonar device
615
00:27:03,709 --> 00:27:06,059
back into the water to guide
616
00:27:06,102 --> 00:27:08,104
the three divers
to potential targets
617
00:27:08,148 --> 00:27:10,716
that merit inspection.
618
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:12,195
MARK:
We're on bottom. 43.
619
00:27:12,239 --> 00:27:13,762
BRIAN:
Roger that. On bottom.
620
00:27:13,806 --> 00:27:18,027
We have the debris field
right in here,
621
00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:21,161
and you've got another debris
field another 20 feet out here.
622
00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:24,512
KEVIN: So, really, if we do
a radius around the tripod
623
00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:26,819
of about 20 feet, we're gonna
see all of those targets.
624
00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:29,082
-Yes, you should.
-All right,
let's get our gear on.
625
00:27:29,125 --> 00:27:30,387
-I want to get down there.
-AL: Yeah, let's do it.
626
00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:35,784
Okay. Diver in the water!
627
00:27:35,828 --> 00:27:37,873
NARRATOR:
While Kevin
628
00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:41,007
and Dr. Holley will be equipped with underwater cameras,
629
00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,792
Al Dykstra will be using
a metal detector
630
00:27:43,836 --> 00:27:47,100
able to discriminate
ferrous metals, such as iron,
631
00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,710
from non-ferrous metals
632
00:27:48,754 --> 00:27:50,712
such as silver or gold.
633
00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:55,151
Third diver on the surface!
634
00:27:55,195 --> 00:27:57,023
ALEX:
I'm really excited
635
00:27:57,066 --> 00:27:58,241
that the guys
are gonna head down.
636
00:27:58,285 --> 00:28:00,156
Comm check, Mark?
637
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,811
ALEX: With the sector scan
to locate the targets
638
00:28:02,855 --> 00:28:05,292
and the metal detectors
to investigate them,
639
00:28:05,335 --> 00:28:06,859
yeah, this could be a dive
that-that finds us
640
00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:07,773
some gold, honestly.
641
00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:27,096
Copy.
642
00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:17,190
All right.
643
00:29:17,233 --> 00:29:19,322
What do you see?
644
00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:28,462
[beeping]
645
00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:34,511
You think
it'd be more non-ferrous?
646
00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:35,991
ALEX: I don't know.
If it is non-ferrous,
647
00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:38,341
there's only a few things
it could be.
648
00:29:40,126 --> 00:29:41,954
-[beeping]
-NARRATOR: In order to confirm
649
00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:45,696
that the hit is a high-pitched, non-ferrous signal,
650
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:49,048
Kevin Dykstra listens for
himself with Al's headphones.
651
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:52,616
[beeping]
652
00:30:03,497 --> 00:30:07,240
NARRATOR: Even though
it's possible Kevin and Al
653
00:30:07,283 --> 00:30:09,242
have located something
that could be made
654
00:30:09,285 --> 00:30:12,027
of precious metal
buried beneath the sand,
655
00:30:12,071 --> 00:30:15,814
they currently do not have a legal permit that allows them
656
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:19,382
to dig or even retrieve
artifacts on the lake bottom.
657
00:30:21,994 --> 00:30:23,386
I already got it.
658
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:24,779
Brian marked the spot.
659
00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:26,955
We have it on the sonar.
660
00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:29,871
NARRATOR: Brian Abbott
has pinpointed the location
661
00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,655
of the debris field.
662
00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:33,875
The team can now use
this information
663
00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,703
in their application
664
00:30:35,746 --> 00:30:38,227
to the State of Michigan
for a salvaging permit.
665
00:30:41,796 --> 00:30:43,058
FRED:
Copy that.
666
00:30:43,102 --> 00:30:44,451
Keep looking and get excited.
667
00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:47,367
I want to know
about the gold, boys.
668
00:30:47,410 --> 00:30:49,891
Copy that.
669
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:53,503
NARRATOR: In order to make it
back safely to the boat,
670
00:30:53,547 --> 00:30:56,376
Kevin, Al, and Dr. Holley
671
00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:58,857
can only stay on the lake
bottom until their tanks
672
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:01,033
are down to 500 pounds of air.
673
00:31:26,188 --> 00:31:28,843
KEVIN:
In the footage
674
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:32,325
of what we believe is a gold
bar, we clearly see cable.
675
00:31:32,368 --> 00:31:35,197
Al and I have always said,
"Find the cable, find the gold."
676
00:31:35,241 --> 00:31:37,896
And we were on top
of that cable.
677
00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:46,469
near the city of Frankfort,
678
00:31:46,513 --> 00:31:48,863
brothers Kevin and Al Dykstra,
679
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,343
along with underwater
archaeologist
680
00:31:50,386 --> 00:31:53,346
Dr. Mark Holley,
may have just made
681
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,957
an incredible discovery.
682
00:32:00,005 --> 00:32:01,702
They have located
what they believe
683
00:32:01,745 --> 00:32:04,444
to be the debris field
where, last year,
684
00:32:04,487 --> 00:32:06,185
Kevin photographed
what he thinks
685
00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:10,102
could have been
one of the missing gold bars.
686
00:32:23,332 --> 00:32:25,117
[filtered breathing over comms]
687
00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,345
[rapid beeping]
688
00:32:42,612 --> 00:32:45,006
Divers, I would
like you to stop.
689
00:32:45,050 --> 00:32:46,660
I want you to give me
an air check.
690
00:32:46,703 --> 00:32:48,618
You're breathing awful heavy.
691
00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:55,103
Come on up. Your time is up.
692
00:33:00,195 --> 00:33:03,024
-W-We marked it.
-We marked the spot.
693
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,635
Brian marked the spot.
We have it on the sonar.
694
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:08,464
Come on up.
695
00:33:08,508 --> 00:33:10,640
Al was getting high-pitched hits
on the metal detector,
696
00:33:10,684 --> 00:33:12,381
no different
than what happened last year.
697
00:33:12,425 --> 00:33:14,253
See, there might be gold bars
698
00:33:14,296 --> 00:33:16,429
laying all over
the bottom down there,
699
00:33:16,472 --> 00:33:19,736
but we just can't
get to it yet.
700
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:23,610
NARRATOR: Unfortunately
for Kevin, Al and Dr. Holley,
701
00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:26,308
after more than a half hour
on the lake bottom,
702
00:33:26,352 --> 00:33:28,658
their air supplies
are running too low
703
00:33:28,702 --> 00:33:30,921
to continue
their investigation...
704
00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:32,271
at least for now.
705
00:33:32,314 --> 00:33:33,881
Time for de-co, come on up.
706
00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:44,283
Have you left the bottom yet?
707
00:33:49,462 --> 00:33:50,985
Copy that, thank you.
708
00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,682
NARRATOR:
Decompression sickness,
709
00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:54,467
also known as the bends,
710
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:57,209
could pose a serious threat
to the divers.
711
00:33:57,252 --> 00:34:00,168
It occurs when gases
like nitrogen
712
00:34:00,212 --> 00:34:02,301
become highly compressed
in the body
713
00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:04,564
when a diver is underwater.
714
00:34:04,607 --> 00:34:06,261
When they rise to the surface,
715
00:34:06,305 --> 00:34:08,437
they must do so
in short stages,
716
00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:11,136
allowing their body
to decompress.
717
00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:14,356
Failing to do so can cause
the gases to expand
718
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,403
and form bubbles
in the bloodstream.
719
00:34:17,446 --> 00:34:22,103
This, in turn, leads to intense joint pain, vertigo, seizures
720
00:34:22,147 --> 00:34:24,801
and, in some cases, death.
721
00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:27,717
Your two minutes are up.
You can surface.
722
00:34:29,676 --> 00:34:31,112
KEVIN:
When you're diving, you have
723
00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:33,027
to keep track
of your air pressure.
724
00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:35,508
You just don't have that luxury
of taking your time.
725
00:34:35,551 --> 00:34:38,250
I-It's really hard to explain,
because it's not like
726
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,252
you can just sit down there.
727
00:34:40,295 --> 00:34:42,558
Okay, diver on surface.
728
00:34:42,602 --> 00:34:44,778
NARRATOR: Despite having
to return to the surface,
729
00:34:44,821 --> 00:34:48,303
the dive operation
has been successful.
730
00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:51,698
The team has not only located
the place where, last year,
731
00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:55,005
Kevin obtained footage
of a possible gold bar,
732
00:34:55,049 --> 00:34:59,532
they also mapped the area with
a sector scan sonar device.
733
00:34:59,575 --> 00:35:01,142
-BRIAN: Divers are well?
-We're good.
734
00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:03,405
You're good? Okay.
735
00:35:03,449 --> 00:35:05,190
-KEVIN: We're good.
-Did you hear
that non-ferrous hit?
736
00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:06,539
-Oh, I did.
-[chuckles]
737
00:35:06,582 --> 00:35:08,410
ALEX:
We heard you screaming about it.
738
00:35:08,454 --> 00:35:10,195
I was gonna say, maybe you got
a little excited down there.
739
00:35:10,238 --> 00:35:12,153
KEVIN: When we saw
that cable right there,
740
00:35:12,197 --> 00:35:14,764
we were right back
exactly there.
741
00:35:14,808 --> 00:35:16,418
Yeah, and the metal detector
was going... [imitates beeping]
742
00:35:16,462 --> 00:35:17,898
KEVIN:
Yep, yep, yep.
743
00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:20,205
-That was fun.
-Now, that's a dive.
744
00:35:20,248 --> 00:35:22,163
Yep.
745
00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:24,470
To see that debris field, to see
746
00:35:24,513 --> 00:35:27,299
the objects on the bottom
of the lake, it's huge for us,
747
00:35:27,342 --> 00:35:29,475
and everything's lining up.
748
00:35:29,518 --> 00:35:33,609
So we are very hopeful that
we'll see that gold very soon.
749
00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,003
You think you saw any evidence
of the potential gold bar,
750
00:35:36,046 --> 00:35:37,657
-or no?
-I didn't.
751
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,920
You know, I wanted
to get right into that gravel
752
00:35:39,963 --> 00:35:44,272
and move it out but I heard him
chirping in my ear.
753
00:35:44,316 --> 00:35:46,840
"Can't touch nothing,"
so we just fanned above it,
754
00:35:46,883 --> 00:35:48,407
-I didn't touch nothing.
-That's the right way to do it.
755
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:51,714
I mean, nothing.
We left every stone unturned.
756
00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:54,064
I'm gonna say that is our spot.
757
00:35:54,108 --> 00:35:55,718
-Yes.
-That's where we were.
758
00:35:55,762 --> 00:35:57,981
Thanks to the sector scan,
we have GPS coordinates.
759
00:35:58,025 --> 00:35:59,940
-Awesome.
-Seriously? We got it?
760
00:35:59,983 --> 00:36:02,377
-So we're right there.
-Oh!
761
00:36:02,421 --> 00:36:04,074
BRIAN:
I think I can build you
762
00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:07,034
a photomosaic of your area,
where you've been,
763
00:36:07,077 --> 00:36:09,863
to, you know,
show you the areas where
764
00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:11,995
you've covered with your
metal detector and everything.
765
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,215
I can't wait to see that mosaic
766
00:36:14,259 --> 00:36:16,565
that Brian puts together
with all that data,
767
00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:19,960
so we can take that to the state
of Michigan and help
768
00:36:20,003 --> 00:36:22,180
our chances
to excavate this site.
769
00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:24,399
ALEX:
We did great today.
770
00:36:24,443 --> 00:36:26,488
We did about as well
as we could have today, I think,
771
00:36:26,532 --> 00:36:28,403
and there's a lot more to do,
but I got to get back
772
00:36:28,447 --> 00:36:30,536
-to Oak Island.
-No.
773
00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:33,060
We're-we're pretty shorthanded
out there right now, so...
774
00:36:33,103 --> 00:36:34,714
Tell your dad.
Tell him you need to be here.
775
00:36:34,757 --> 00:36:38,021
Honestly, when I talk to my dad,
nothing but good things.
776
00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:40,067
But when we get the permit,
I'm back.
777
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,156
Fair-fair enough.
It's-it's great having you here.
778
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,592
-There's no doubt about it.
-Mm-hmm.
779
00:36:43,636 --> 00:36:45,594
I appreciate the opportunity
to be here.
780
00:36:45,638 --> 00:36:47,596
Hey, Larry, can you, uh,
get us back to shore?
781
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,642
Sure. No problem.
782
00:36:49,685 --> 00:36:51,252
-It was a good day.
-Yeah.
783
00:36:51,296 --> 00:36:51,948
ALEX:
Yup.
784
00:36:59,608 --> 00:37:02,611
NARRATOR: Two days after a sonar
and diving operation
785
00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:05,919
which produced potential
evidence of some $140 million
786
00:37:05,962 --> 00:37:08,574
at the bottom
of Lake Michigan...
787
00:37:08,617 --> 00:37:10,445
Let's get Marty and Alex
on the phone.
788
00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:12,447
NARRATOR: ...Kevin Dykstra
and his team gather
789
00:37:12,491 --> 00:37:15,407
in his Muskegon workshop
for a video conference
790
00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:18,540
with Marty and Alex Lagina.
791
00:37:18,584 --> 00:37:21,195
-BRAD: Here they are.
-Hey.
792
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,805
-KEVIN: Hey, guys. How are you?
-There you are.
793
00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:24,764
-MARTY: Hey, guys!
-JEFF: Hello!
794
00:37:24,807 --> 00:37:26,679
-BRAD: Hey, Marty and Alex.
-Hi, Marty!
795
00:37:26,722 --> 00:37:28,289
-Howdy, howdy.
-Hey.
796
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:29,551
I see you made it back
to the island, Alex?
797
00:37:29,595 --> 00:37:30,987
Did-did you have
a good trip back?
798
00:37:31,031 --> 00:37:32,946
I did, yeah.
It was a lengthy one.
799
00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:35,427
I got delayed a couple times,
but I made it eventually.
800
00:37:35,470 --> 00:37:36,819
KEVIN:
I'm glad to hear that.
801
00:37:36,863 --> 00:37:38,430
What's going on
on the island?
802
00:37:38,473 --> 00:37:40,301
Is there anything
you can share from up there?
803
00:37:40,345 --> 00:37:43,435
Well, Kevin, I got to be
a little circumspect about that.
804
00:37:43,478 --> 00:37:45,872
I would say, stay tuned.
805
00:37:45,915 --> 00:37:47,656
[laughter]
806
00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:50,964
What we are is thirsty for news.
807
00:37:51,007 --> 00:37:52,748
KEVIN:
Well, we investigated
808
00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:54,968
two different sites.
One of them
809
00:37:55,011 --> 00:37:57,536
is where we saw
what looked like a boxcar.
810
00:37:57,579 --> 00:37:59,407
-Oh, yes.
-We got
811
00:37:59,451 --> 00:38:01,670
great images of-of that target.
812
00:38:01,714 --> 00:38:03,759
Then we went over
to the area where
813
00:38:03,803 --> 00:38:05,370
we believe
we filmed that gold bar.
814
00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:07,241
Okay.
815
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,678
KEVIN: We were getting signals
from the metal detector,
816
00:38:09,722 --> 00:38:11,637
which could be gold or silver.
817
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,074
Wow. That's pretty cool.
818
00:38:14,117 --> 00:38:16,729
-We're pretty excited
about this, guys.
-It must be
819
00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:19,035
exciting and frustrating,
I imagine, 'cause you know
820
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:20,776
legally,
you-you probably want to
821
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:22,517
just at least dig
with your foot, I'll bet.
822
00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:24,780
-[Al laughs]
-Yeah.
823
00:38:24,824 --> 00:38:26,391
You know, what you said Marty,
times ten.
824
00:38:26,434 --> 00:38:28,784
-All right, good.
-[laughing]
825
00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:30,960
Literally,
we could be an inch away
826
00:38:31,004 --> 00:38:32,962
from millions of dollars'
worth of gold,
827
00:38:33,006 --> 00:38:35,225
but legally, we can't do it.
828
00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:38,098
Okay, well,
that's as good as you can do.
829
00:38:38,141 --> 00:38:40,100
I mean,
until you can move some dirt,
830
00:38:40,143 --> 00:38:42,624
you probably are about
as far as you can get, right?
831
00:38:42,668 --> 00:38:44,278
I mean,
isn't that a fair statement?
832
00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:46,149
-Yeah, exactly right.
-Yeah.
833
00:38:46,193 --> 00:38:48,326
MARTY:
Okay, well, do you happen
834
00:38:48,369 --> 00:38:51,764
to know what the criteria are
to get a permit?
835
00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:54,157
You know, honestly,
we're hoping that,
836
00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,246
you know, with Brian Abbott's
help and his expertise
837
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,249
in putting a mosaic diagram
together
838
00:38:59,293 --> 00:39:01,861
of the bottom of the lake,
that it'll be compelling enough
839
00:39:01,904 --> 00:39:05,691
to go to the state
and possibly get that permit,
840
00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:07,475
and that's really
where we're at right now.
841
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:09,477
Understood,
but who gets the gold bar?
842
00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:12,437
[laughter]
843
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,482
-Hopefully, we do.
-[laughter]
844
00:39:14,526 --> 00:39:17,050
KEVIN:
Marty really feels like I do--
845
00:39:17,093 --> 00:39:19,008
that we're moving this search
forward,
846
00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:21,097
but it's hard.
847
00:39:21,141 --> 00:39:23,273
It's hard to look and not touch,
848
00:39:23,317 --> 00:39:25,711
'cause we don't want to be
in trouble with the state.
849
00:39:25,754 --> 00:39:28,844
We need to secure that permit
from the state of Michigan.
850
00:39:28,888 --> 00:39:32,065
You know, you-you got this going
with the state. That's great.
851
00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:33,762
That's the obvious next step,
but in the interim,
852
00:39:33,806 --> 00:39:35,460
what are you gonna
be working on?
853
00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:37,766
You know what, guys?
You're gonna be excited by this.
854
00:39:37,810 --> 00:39:41,944
We have an older fella
with firsthand experience
855
00:39:41,988 --> 00:39:46,514
in a secret vault in the bottom
of Hackley National Bank.
856
00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:48,429
So, wait a minute.
This guy's talking about
857
00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:51,127
-a secret vault in the bank?
-That's right, and
858
00:39:51,171 --> 00:39:52,912
in addition to that,
859
00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,828
he says there were
secret tunnels in Muskegon,
860
00:39:55,871 --> 00:39:58,657
-underneath
Charles Hackley's house.
-MARTY: Wow.
861
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:01,747
Oh, I-I... I'm gonna just,
you know, make a wild guess.
862
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:03,139
You're gonna go find
that tunnel. Is that right?
863
00:40:03,183 --> 00:40:05,794
[laughs]
That's the plan.
864
00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:07,753
-You gonna be able
to get access?
-Well, that's what
865
00:40:07,796 --> 00:40:10,408
-we're working on right now.
-Do it!
866
00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:13,106
[laughter]
867
00:40:13,149 --> 00:40:15,151
Guys, you're doing great,
and, uh, you know,
868
00:40:15,195 --> 00:40:17,197
we obviously wish you
a ton of luck.
869
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,981
Get down in that tunnel,
get those permits,
870
00:40:19,025 --> 00:40:20,766
and let's talk again soon.
871
00:40:20,809 --> 00:40:23,508
Any-any idea
when we can get Alex back?
872
00:40:23,551 --> 00:40:26,336
I will be back there as soon
as I can, Kevin, trust me.
873
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:27,729
All right. Look-Looking forward
to it. Thanks, guys.
874
00:40:27,773 --> 00:40:29,035
See you guys.
Thanks for the call.
875
00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:30,471
-See ya.
-See you guys.
876
00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:31,820
-AL: See you guys.
-FRED: Bye-bye now.
877
00:40:31,864 --> 00:40:32,952
KEVIN:
I know you heard Marty.
878
00:40:32,995 --> 00:40:35,302
Let's get back to work.
879
00:40:35,345 --> 00:40:39,437
NARRATOR: For the past
eight years, Kevin Dykstra
880
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,440
has been following an incredible trail of clues...
881
00:40:42,483 --> 00:40:45,704
a trail that may soon lead
to not only millions
882
00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:48,184
in stolen Civil War gold,
883
00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:51,666
but also the truth
behind a carefully-constructed
884
00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:54,974
conspiracy
that could rewrite history.
885
00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:57,063
But will Kevin and his team
886
00:40:57,106 --> 00:40:59,718
make their next
breakthrough discovery
887
00:40:59,761 --> 00:41:03,417
deep down in the frigid waters of a lake?
888
00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:07,247
Or will it be in a tunnel
889
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:09,815
beneath
a millionaire's mansion,
890
00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:11,773
where secrets could be hiding
891
00:41:11,817 --> 00:41:14,994
that are more shocking
and disturbing
892
00:41:15,037 --> 00:41:17,692
than anyone could imagine?
893
00:41:22,349 --> 00:41:25,787
NARRATOR: Next time on
The Curse of Civil War Gold...
894
00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:28,529
-Wow.
-That's something right there
about nine foot down.
895
00:41:28,573 --> 00:41:30,226
We're walking
right on top of the tunnel.
896
00:41:30,270 --> 00:41:31,619
Do you feel that's a man-made
897
00:41:31,663 --> 00:41:33,316
structure on the bottom
of the lake?
898
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,057
-Oh, yeah.
-Go get the permit.
899
00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:36,885
BRAD: Charles Hackley had
secrets to keep,
900
00:41:36,929 --> 00:41:39,366
-no doubt in my mind.
-So, you like secrets, huh?
901
00:41:39,409 --> 00:41:41,499
-What kind of secrets?
-I'm gonna show you something
902
00:41:41,542 --> 00:41:43,631
-in the basement.
-Oh, look at there!
903
00:41:43,675 --> 00:41:46,025
-[drill whirring]
-Yeah, you're through it.
904
00:41:46,068 --> 00:41:47,809
-Look at it.
-Oh, wow.
905
00:41:47,853 --> 00:41:50,203
JEFF: This could lead right
to Hackley's side door!
906
00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:52,248
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