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Family formals.
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My favorite.
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Yeah right.
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So family formals, our main goal with family
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formals is to get them done as quickly
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and painlessly as possible.
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Both for our benefit but also for the
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benefit of the bride and groom.
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Now that is just because we want to
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get them done quickly and painlessly does not
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mean that we don't think they're important.
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Actually we put incredible importance onto these photos
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right.
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Even if we've often had brides and grooms
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tell us that they don't want family formals
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and we convince them to do them.
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They have become some of the most important
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photos that we've taken at weddings especially with
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with couples that have suddenly lost parents or
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grandparents after the wedding and they treasure these
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photos.
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So we always make sure we have time
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to do them and that we do a
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good job on them but we still want
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them to be very quick and very painless.
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So we don't pour any creative energy into
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them whatsoever but we make sure that they're
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well composed, that the posing is decent and
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that the lighting is good.
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Yeah the objective is to document who was
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there and what they looked like.
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Yeah exactly.
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I'd say most of our weddings we do
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the family formals outside and it's very formalized.
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We try and find either an area of
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shade with a uniform background or an area
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where the sun is behind the groupings.
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Okay so the sun we always want either
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shade or that light source behind the groupings
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and then we use as big a lens
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as possible usually an 85 or 70 to
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200 and we get them as far away
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from that uniform background as possible.
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So if there's a forest behind them we
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want them at least 10 or 20 meters
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in front of that forest.
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And the reason we're choosing this lens and
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that setup is so that we can use
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compression right.
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We can shoot at a higher f-stop
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have everybody in focus but have that compression
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that separates them from the background.
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Yeah exactly.
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So we've got a nice big lens.
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Lanny generally shoots it because he he sucks
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at posing families.
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Like I don't know what I don't know
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how to do it so it's a bit
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like oh god it's it's been he's done
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it before it's awful.
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Anyways so I just organize the groupings but
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like I said I don't pour a lot
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of creative energy into it.
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I just have generally speaking the bride and
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groom in the middle.
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I've got half of the family grouping on
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the left side half of the family grouping
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on the right side.
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I have them turn so that they're they're
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facing in towards the bride and groom and
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only one shoulder is closest to the camera
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and then that's it.
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The other thing that we'll do often is
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we'll have two lights just naked flashes for
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the most part.
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Just giving a little bit of pop of
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fill light.
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Just a tiny little pop just to help
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them separate from that background a little bit.
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The wedding that we're about to show you.
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I'll just I'll just add that throughout the
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family formals we make sure that like when
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Erica's composing the comp arranging the compositions she
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has a camera on her shoulder right and
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I'm not just laser focused in on getting
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the family formals.
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We're both paying attention to everything else that's
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happening around us because sometimes there's really incredible
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moments and stories happening with kids and etc
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and so we kind of keep our eyes
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open to that and we've got a camera
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ready to get that stuff as well.
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That is so true.
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I always have a camera on me with
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a wider lens because there's often you know
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three-year-olds having temper tantrums or the
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the ring bearer is super bored and you
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know lying on the floor like this is
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so boring let's go on.
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Anyway so there's all sorts of moments happening
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during those family formals as well.
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We're going to talk about this later on
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in the course but I do have a
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list of all the family formals that they
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want that I get before the actual wedding
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day and I have someone who they have
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designated to help me coordinate and get people
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ready.
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I usually ask them to pick a really
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bossy bridesmaid or or aunt.
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Someone that can you know be really assertive
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with people and get them into position so
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that we can make them as quick and
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painless as possible.
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Yeah and we usually recommend that we do
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these these formals kind of as close as
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possible to right after the ceremony.
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You know in that location-ish before people
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have dispersed because it's that much easier to
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keep them fast and painless right.
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Yeah and let's go and look at it
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now.
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Okay welcome to family formals for Shannon and
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Ian's wedding.
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This is the location we picked.
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You can see we've got pretty nice even
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light.
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If the sun were out we would have
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had to try and pick a location where
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the sun is definitely behind them.
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I can't exactly remember where it is in
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the scene.
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I think it's looking at the shadows on
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the ground.
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It's coming in the right here but the
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reason that we picked this location is that
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we've got lots of nice depth to work
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with right.
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We've got a big long road behind them.
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We can use a big lens and we
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can use that compression to our advantage.
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Okay so you're going to face up with
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your right shoulder forward a little bit and
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you're going to face with your left shoulder
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forward.
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Perfect.
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And you're going to hide this hand under
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her bouquet so that you're nice and close.
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Okay yes.
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And grandma?
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Grandpa?
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You guys come on over.
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And this is a little bit ridiculous because
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you'll see me setting up this family photo
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and Lanny's not even there yet.
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He's gone to get the lights and it
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took him way longer to get the lights
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than I thought it would take him.
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So you'll see me set up the entire
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family photo and no Lanny.
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No lights, no camera.
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So that comes a little bit later.
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There's Lauren and Ron.
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It's Ron right?
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Dan.
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Dan.
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Dan.
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That's okay.
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I knew it was three letters.
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It was almost gone here.
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Um and then you guys can get, you
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guys can hop in.
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Actually hop in on this side.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So Cassie you go first.
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And now we just gotta wait for Lanny.
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Oh.
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So you guys can relax.
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Yeah.
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Bring all of them.
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Unless she's too much we can have her
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out but we can pull her in later.
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She doesn't want to see us.
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Hey where's Lanny?
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So really we don't need flashes at all
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for this family picture but if you find
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a little bit of front flash it just
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adds a little nice pop and you'll see
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that in a second.
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Just re-watching this video just sort of
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brings back all the stress of this moment.
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Carefully take your time.
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What's
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your
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settings?
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Just double checking Lanny's settings because he's had
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a tendency to shoot family pictures at really
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low apertures before.
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So I always just double check them now.
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It doesn't happen very often anymore but.
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Okay we're gonna do a test shot here.
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This first, first family photo always takes so
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long and is a little bit like rushed
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and stressful and then once we get that
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first one nailed the rest go really quickly.
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Okay.
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Trying the flashes.
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There you go.
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Okay give that a try.
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Just in case.
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Just like that.
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Okay you come on in here.
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Okay we'll make this like really cozy this
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one.
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Come on in mom.
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Yes that looks great.
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Okay Lanny.
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Okay looking at Lanny there.
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Three, two, one.
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And another.
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Let me check.
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Sorry I was standing in front of you
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Mike.
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Okay and one more.
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Yeah perfect.
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Sandwich.
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Who's in the back room?
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Okay right here.
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One more.
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Perfect.
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Okay good so you guys are done.
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Um Ian's family.
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I don't know.
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Just come.
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Be close enough.
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Then you're going to do a bunch of
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different compositions here.
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And I have no idea.
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They're off with the kids.
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They're doing their thing.
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Oh okay.
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So we're not doing family photos.
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No that's fine.
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I was only asked to come.
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Okay okay so we're close and then you
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guys come up.
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Are you guys a part of this family?
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Yes.
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Everybody in the photos anywhere?
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Yes.
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Yes okay.
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And then dad.
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Yeah let's get dad's this side here.
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Okay.
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This is his dad.
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I'll just go wherever you tell me.
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Actually we'll get you guys to switch.
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She's going to come in.
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And this is your left shoulder.
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I get it yeah yeah.
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This is my left shoulder.
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Yes and then come forward a bit.
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I don't know where I'm going to go.
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You've got to have standing up on this.
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Two of you guys can go on that
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side.
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Well it's going to be a little uneven.
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It's just what it is.
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Am I past Adam up on the moon?
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Yeah no.
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I had it the same.
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Oh yeah no you come over here.
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And you go.
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You can come over here.
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Just squeeze in a little bit so that
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you're not up on the edge.
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Yeah squeeze closer.
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That's way easier than photoshopping my face.
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Stand and look to your right.
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Okay you got to make room for uh.
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There we go.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay now come forward a little bit.
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Yes perfect.
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And you go back like half an inch.
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There awesome.
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Okay.
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That's enough.
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Anna come a little bit closer for one.
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Be nice in there.
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We want to get the camera wet.
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Look at the camera.
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It's really hard to get this family to
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look at the camera and smile.
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Over at the camera.
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You didn't get it.
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They weren't all looking.
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Let's get one where everybody's looking.
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You need to do this.
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You all have to look at the same
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time.
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It's a challenge.
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You all have to look at the same
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time.
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I'm not going to stitch 12 photos together.
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I need everybody looking here at the same
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time.
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Here we go.
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3, 2, 1.
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My camera.
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Nailed it.
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Yes.
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You guys did it.
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We're just waiting
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for some family to show up here.
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Just going to do a quick portrait.
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While we're waiting for the family to show
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up.
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Come on down here guys.
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I'm getting my settings set.
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As long as he's getting a couple.
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Just going to back flash him in the
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dark spot of this grove here.
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We're going to take a picture while we're
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waiting.
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Is that fire?
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These will use their time efficiently.
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Is that fire?
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Oh, I'm on channel 2.
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Okay.
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Right about there.
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I'm just going to do a quick back
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flash.
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Right about there.
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Penguin pose.
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But facing each other.
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Okay.
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Half a step that way.
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Keep doing that.
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Pack your noses together a little bit.
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Like you're chickens.
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There you go.
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Awesome.
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You guys are ready.
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I was just waiting.
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Okay.
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Right here.
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Right in the camera.
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Let's do one more.
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Lenny always makes me be the idiot.
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In the family photos.
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Having to attract attention to the kids.
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He likes to hide behind the camera.
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Here we go.
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3, 2, 1.
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Got her.
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That's family pictures.
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This one was a little bit more of
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a gong show than normal.
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Mostly because I actually forgot the list that
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Shannon had given me.
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With everything else going on, my phone was
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in the lodge and I didn't have time
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to go run back and get it and
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grab the list.
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Also, I normally have a shepherd.
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I normally have someone that knows all the
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family that's able to gather everyone for me.
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This one was a little bit more unorganized
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than most of our family formal sessions, but
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you still get the gist of what we
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do.
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