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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,180 --> 00:00:05,920 Okay, so lots of golden nuggets of wisdom 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,940 in there this week from two experts who've 3 00:00:08,940 --> 00:00:11,680 been an instrumental part of getting our brands 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,120 and our work out there into the world 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,700 and really important stuff that's often overlooked in 6 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:19,600 our industry and it shows. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,080 Yeah, which means that there's a huge opportunity 8 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,180 for us to stand out, right, if we 9 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:26,080 put some effort into our branding. 10 00:00:26,540 --> 00:00:29,380 And those branding exercises have helped Lani and 11 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:32,120 I immensely, not only with figuring out our 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,880 target audience, but with how to structure and 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,620 what to put on our website, Instagram, Facebook, 14 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:39,260 which we're going to get into in another 15 00:00:39,260 --> 00:00:39,680 chapter. 16 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:42,880 So I definitely encourage you to take advantage 17 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,860 of that branding guide that James provided. 18 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:45,960 Go and do that. 19 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:48,320 It's a really valuable exercise. 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Now SEO and advertising is something that's pretty 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,020 new to us at Two Man. 22 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,160 It's something we never had to think about 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,880 before, but we're having to think about it 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,180 now. 25 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:58,500 Do you want to chat a little bit 26 00:00:58,500 --> 00:00:59,460 about contests here? 27 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,260 Because contests is another way that you can 28 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:02,800 put your work out into the world for 29 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,300 people to see. 30 00:01:03,319 --> 00:01:06,460 Yeah, and actually that's a common topic that 31 00:01:06,460 --> 00:01:08,200 pretty much comes up at every workshop. 32 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,160 There's always questions around what's your take on 33 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:12,800 contests? 34 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:14,440 Is that something that we should be doing? 35 00:01:14,580 --> 00:01:15,300 Is it a good thing? 36 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,180 Is it a bad thing? 37 00:01:16,820 --> 00:01:18,620 You know, it's a whole topic. 38 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:20,200 And we have different takes on it. 39 00:01:21,020 --> 00:01:21,260 Yeah. 40 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:23,200 We have different takes on it. 41 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,960 Why don't you talk about your experience? 42 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,940 I mean, like anything, it can be good, 43 00:01:31,020 --> 00:01:32,000 but it can also be bad. 44 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:33,980 It kind of fits here because essentially this 45 00:01:33,980 --> 00:01:37,140 is, we're talking about, you know, obviously the 46 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:38,600 course is about trying to make the best 47 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,280 work we can. 48 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,440 And then this, now we're moving into like, 49 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,300 how do we show it? 50 00:01:42,340 --> 00:01:43,840 How do we get it in front of 51 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:44,820 the right eyes? 52 00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:46,820 As many of the bright eyes as we 53 00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:47,100 can. 54 00:01:47,740 --> 00:01:49,760 And so I would say contests is just 55 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,300 one potential avenue through which to do that, 56 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:54,600 right? 57 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,380 Another option for helping get our work out 58 00:01:57,380 --> 00:01:57,620 there. 59 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,220 I mean, the thing is though, that's got 60 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:04,720 to be your sole purpose with contests, is 61 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,240 to get your work out there for people 62 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:06,500 to see. 63 00:02:06,660 --> 00:02:08,800 If you're doing it for any validation or 64 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,780 you're doing it, because contests can be really 65 00:02:11,780 --> 00:02:12,200 dangerous. 66 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,260 It can be dangerous because when you get, 67 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:17,260 and it's same with Facebook likes and Instagram 68 00:02:17,260 --> 00:02:18,820 likes and all that sort of stuff, it's 69 00:02:18,820 --> 00:02:21,760 sort of, they become almost addictive. 70 00:02:22,340 --> 00:02:25,060 And it's almost like after a contest, if 71 00:02:25,060 --> 00:02:27,300 you win something, you get this spike of 72 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,260 energy and excitement. 73 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:34,320 But afterwards, it's like a sugar high. 74 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,480 You dive down deeper. 75 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:37,160 And then in order to get yourself out 76 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,840 of that valley again, you have to keep 77 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:39,840 on one-upping yourself. 78 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,600 And it's this really damaging cyclical cycle to 79 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,060 your psyche. 80 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:47,760 For me, personally. 81 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:48,000 Right. 82 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:51,100 It totally depends on who you are, right? 83 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,200 Where are your goals? 84 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,140 What are your intentions? 85 00:02:54,180 --> 00:02:56,240 Because it can be a really powerful marketing 86 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:56,800 tool, right? 87 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,900 Essentially that's been, contest submissions for us has 88 00:03:01,900 --> 00:03:04,860 sort of been our marketing budget, right? 89 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:05,340 It has. 90 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,900 And thankfully, I have a Lanny to enter 91 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:08,780 contests for me. 92 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:13,040 Because I personally did not, like my worst 93 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,520 year of a photographer was the year that 94 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,000 I got Fearless Photographer of the Year. 95 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:19,020 It just put me in a deep dive 96 00:03:19,020 --> 00:03:22,320 of questioning everything I'm doing and the value. 97 00:03:22,580 --> 00:03:24,680 And I just don't like what it does 98 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,320 to me when I win, but also when 99 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:27,700 I lose. 100 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,160 I don't like what it does to my 101 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,440 brain. 102 00:03:30,580 --> 00:03:32,440 And it kind of screws up my creative 103 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:32,900 process. 104 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:37,820 And it screws up me, my values, and 105 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:39,840 what I find really important in photography. 106 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:44,140 So I have completely separated myself from contests. 107 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,700 That being said, Fearless has done well for 108 00:03:48,700 --> 00:03:49,980 us, especially for marketing. 109 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Yeah, contest results have been huge. 110 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,440 So I've got Lanny, and he enters for 111 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:56,640 me. 112 00:03:57,020 --> 00:03:58,700 But he doesn't even show me what he's 113 00:03:58,700 --> 00:03:58,980 entering. 114 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:02,660 Because even just looking at what's being entered, 115 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,880 it messes up my brain. 116 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:06,240 So it's something you could outsource as well, 117 00:04:06,340 --> 00:04:06,840 if you find. 118 00:04:07,340 --> 00:04:09,300 But yeah, it's important to keep in mind. 119 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,680 I mean, for some people, it's great. 120 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,420 For some people, it's a great motivator, right? 121 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,800 It's like validation, or you're just putting your 122 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,500 work out there. 123 00:04:19,620 --> 00:04:21,680 But when you attach it to your self 124 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,300 -worth, if you attach it to your value, 125 00:04:23,460 --> 00:04:26,360 if you hold too many grains of salt 126 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,340 in the results, then that's when it can 127 00:04:30,340 --> 00:04:30,980 become a negative. 128 00:04:32,060 --> 00:04:35,020 And just keep in mind that if it 129 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:36,960 motivates you to try to make your best 130 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:37,820 work, that's great. 131 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,680 But if you find that you're shooting for 132 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,420 awards, if you're shooting for contests, if you've 133 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:46,940 got that as your motivation in the field 134 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:49,940 behind the camera, if you're thinking about results 135 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:53,060 and awards, it's not going to be healthy. 136 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,560 It's not going to burn you out, and 137 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,460 it's probably not going to lead to your 138 00:04:57,460 --> 00:04:57,960 best work. 139 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:01,360 I will say though, contests in general, especially 140 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,020 a few out there, have really elevated the 141 00:05:03,020 --> 00:05:03,380 industry. 142 00:05:03,780 --> 00:05:08,660 They've elevated the genre of wedding photography quite 143 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:09,140 drastically. 144 00:05:09,660 --> 00:05:12,120 So like anything, there's good and bad things. 145 00:05:12,460 --> 00:05:13,680 It's okay to question it. 146 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,780 It's okay not to like it. 147 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,260 And there's lots of different avenues you can 148 00:05:17,260 --> 00:05:18,580 take, and there's no right and wrong with 149 00:05:18,580 --> 00:05:19,020 any of them. 150 00:05:19,580 --> 00:05:19,740 Right. 151 00:05:20,540 --> 00:05:22,960 And we've judged a lot of contests. 152 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:23,780 Yes. 153 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,220 I'm going to get into that in another 154 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:25,520 week. 155 00:05:25,740 --> 00:05:27,400 We've judged tons of contests, and I'm going 156 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,920 to sort of just go through what I 157 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,260 feel is what makes a photo award-winning, 158 00:05:34,620 --> 00:05:35,120 and what makes a photo less award-winning. 159 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,740 If you want to play that contest game, 160 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,100 Erica's got some really cool, really good tips 161 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:43,840 that could probably help you out there. 162 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:44,220 Yeah. 163 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,980 Well, it's not just for contests, actually. 164 00:05:46,140 --> 00:05:46,780 It's just for better photos. 165 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:48,480 Well, no, it's just about better photos. 166 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:49,080 Yeah. 167 00:05:49,820 --> 00:05:52,720 So now, let's look at the client experience 168 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,620 from that point, from when they discover our 169 00:05:55,620 --> 00:05:59,200 work, through until they actually inquire with us, 170 00:05:59,340 --> 00:06:01,460 right up until the wedding itself. 171 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,540 So the entire workflow, broken down step-by 172 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:06,640 -step, everything that happens before the wedding. 173 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:07,080 Yeah. 174 00:06:07,180 --> 00:06:08,780 And included in that, we're going to take 175 00:06:08,780 --> 00:06:11,960 you through a mock client Skype with some 176 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,820 potential clients. 177 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Now, just because we're talking about the business 178 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,620 and the industry, doesn't mean that you don't 179 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:21,100 get to keep working on your photography. 180 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,580 So we've got a photography assignment for you 181 00:06:23,580 --> 00:06:26,680 this week, and what we're going to try 182 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,000 and get you guys to do, or what 183 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,560 you're going to try and get yourself to 184 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,780 do, is get the action and the reaction 185 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:36,420 both within the same frame. 186 00:06:37,340 --> 00:06:40,040 So something to pay attention to, something to 187 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,900 strive for this week. 188 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:43,380 You can do it at your weddings, right, 189 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,520 or you can do it at home, just 190 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,580 in life, just out on the streets, trying 191 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:50,700 to incorporate both sides of the story. 192 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,300 Action and reaction. 193 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:53,420 In the same frame. 194 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:55,300 Okay, and have fun with that. 195 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:56,240 We'll see you next week. 13260

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