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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:38,121 --> 00:00:41,041 Introducing the next speaker, 2 00:00:42,292 --> 00:00:45,628 I do so with a feeling of personal affection. 3 00:00:46,546 --> 00:00:49,883 We love him for the enemies he has made. 4 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:54,554 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Fritz Kuhn. 5 00:02:43,079 --> 00:02:45,957 You will not replace us! 6 00:02:46,249 --> 00:02:48,877 You will not replace us! 7 00:03:04,559 --> 00:03:07,353 Our side was defending themselves to a large degree. 8 00:03:07,437 --> 00:03:08,396 I've no doubt about that. 9 00:03:08,479 --> 00:03:10,148 Does this day feel like a win to you? 10 00:03:10,231 --> 00:03:13,192 It does feel like a win because we demonstrated our resolve. 11 00:03:16,571 --> 00:03:18,740 Everything falls apart from this day. 12 00:03:18,823 --> 00:03:19,991 Yeah. 13 00:03:20,074 --> 00:03:22,827 Everybody knows them now. Everybody's seen them now. 14 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:26,539 And when they go home to their families and to their jobs 15 00:03:26,623 --> 00:03:28,082 and to their professions, 16 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:31,502 everybody's going to say, "Why were you there?" 17 00:03:33,463 --> 00:03:36,216 You motherfuckers! You dance like this. 18 00:03:36,883 --> 00:03:37,926 - Fuck you! - You know, you-- 19 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:39,010 Fuck you! 20 00:03:47,185 --> 00:03:48,311 Go, go, go, go. 21 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:54,984 We got multiple injuries! 22 00:03:55,193 --> 00:03:56,486 Possible fatalities. 23 00:03:57,612 --> 00:03:58,947 Why? 24 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:19,717 Little mayor Singer... Signer... 25 00:04:19,801 --> 00:04:21,010 How do you pronounce this little creep's name? 26 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:23,388 Jew. Jew! That's how you pronounce it. 27 00:04:25,139 --> 00:04:27,725 The idea that I would ever back down 28 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:30,311 to such a little creep like Mayor Signer. 29 00:04:30,395 --> 00:04:32,647 We are never backing down. 30 00:04:32,730 --> 00:04:35,191 Now it's not gonna be over. It's not going to be. Never. 31 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,945 The problem that everybody has, 32 00:04:39,028 --> 00:04:40,530 I don't care if you're on the left or on the right, 33 00:04:40,613 --> 00:04:42,949 truth is going to do what truth does. 34 00:04:43,783 --> 00:04:47,495 Lies have consequences and you will not escape those. 35 00:04:50,415 --> 00:04:54,711 You know the old saying, "Evil flourishes when good people do nothing." 36 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:58,673 Regardless of whether or not a person has the right 37 00:04:58,756 --> 00:04:59,966 to say whatever they want to say, 38 00:05:00,049 --> 00:05:03,011 the fact of the matter is when they make it clear that they're fascists, 39 00:05:03,094 --> 00:05:04,762 you're supposed to do something about it 40 00:05:04,846 --> 00:05:09,225 to make sure that those particular rights are intact. 41 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:11,477 Otherwise, you're doing nothing more than copping out 42 00:05:11,561 --> 00:05:14,272 because you're too cowardly to put up a fight. 43 00:05:15,606 --> 00:05:17,942 Daryle the Barrel, as he's known, 44 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:19,819 he weighs at least 400 pounds. 45 00:05:19,902 --> 00:05:22,572 He's this anti-fascist activist 46 00:05:22,697 --> 00:05:24,657 who's done all sorts of research 47 00:05:24,741 --> 00:05:28,453 and has dedicated his life to hating people, you know, basically. 48 00:05:30,038 --> 00:05:33,750 I don't have kids of my own. I have nieces and nephews. 49 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:35,960 I hope that they are able to learn something 50 00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:38,129 from what it is that I do. 51 00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:41,507 I'm not begrudging Antifa of trying to remain anonymous 52 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:44,427 and to remain inconspicuous in the work they do, 53 00:05:44,594 --> 00:05:47,013 but I can't do that and that's one of the reasons why. 54 00:05:53,561 --> 00:05:56,147 My family needs to know and the people around me 55 00:05:56,230 --> 00:05:58,232 need to know that this is what I am, 56 00:05:58,316 --> 00:06:01,611 this is what I do and I'm damn proud of it. 57 00:06:01,694 --> 00:06:04,447 And I want you to learn something from all of that. 58 00:06:05,073 --> 00:06:07,366 Have you ever met Antifa or interviewed them? 59 00:06:07,784 --> 00:06:08,951 What are they like? 60 00:06:10,119 --> 00:06:12,080 In defense of Daryle, 61 00:06:12,497 --> 00:06:17,085 he's not a strung-out, you know, gutter punk. 62 00:06:17,502 --> 00:06:20,880 Yeah. I don't think he's on drugs. He's just on donuts. 63 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:35,353 The idea that we just randomly have different skin color, 64 00:06:35,436 --> 00:06:36,437 but we're all the same, 65 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,774 it's just absolutely ridiculous. 66 00:06:39,857 --> 00:06:42,819 Hail Trump. Hail our people. Hail victory. 67 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:49,158 Race matters, 68 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:53,454 race has mattered for every single person in world history 69 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:58,376 except silly white liberals and white conservatives post 1960. 70 00:06:58,459 --> 00:07:02,380 The idea that we're the strange ones is risible. 71 00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:05,758 There's a gentleman by the name of Richard Spencer, 72 00:07:05,842 --> 00:07:07,718 little rich kid, never had a real job 73 00:07:07,802 --> 00:07:10,096 except maybe being a tutor to some high school kids 74 00:07:10,179 --> 00:07:11,305 in a school somewhere. 75 00:07:11,389 --> 00:07:14,016 He's basically known as a right-wing propagandist 76 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,019 and he's always had these hate politics coming along with him. 77 00:07:17,103 --> 00:07:21,107 Our identity is going to be forged through this great crisis that we're experiencing. 78 00:07:21,190 --> 00:07:24,402 We're experiencing the implications of mass immigration and multiculturalism 79 00:07:24,485 --> 00:07:25,695 and multiracialism. 80 00:07:25,778 --> 00:07:27,905 We're going to come out of it as a new people. 81 00:07:28,781 --> 00:07:30,867 If you're going to be about neo-fascist ideas, 82 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:33,536 neo-fascist principles, goodbye, you're gone. 83 00:07:33,619 --> 00:07:34,620 When I was in the military, 84 00:07:34,704 --> 00:07:38,875 I took an oath to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 85 00:07:39,208 --> 00:07:41,878 You become a domestic enemy when you do shit like that. 86 00:07:56,893 --> 00:07:58,186 So, what is this thing you guys are doing? 87 00:07:59,854 --> 00:08:03,107 So, it's an independent documentary 88 00:08:03,191 --> 00:08:07,403 on alternative right ideology, thought. 89 00:08:08,946 --> 00:08:12,074 And you're actually the first... You're the first person we're filming with 90 00:08:12,158 --> 00:08:13,951 and this is literally the first day. 91 00:08:14,202 --> 00:08:15,745 - OK. - OK? 92 00:08:19,540 --> 00:08:22,960 The alt-right is an abbreviation of "alternative right." 93 00:08:23,169 --> 00:08:25,171 The phrase was coined in 2008 94 00:08:25,254 --> 00:08:28,299 by a very alt-right guy named Richard Spencer. 95 00:08:28,382 --> 00:08:30,843 He hooked up with a guy named Paul Gottfried 96 00:08:30,927 --> 00:08:34,722 who is a college professor of some small college somewhere 97 00:08:34,805 --> 00:08:38,226 who once gave a speech saying that we need an alternative right. 98 00:08:38,309 --> 00:08:40,978 Spencer turned that term, "alternative right," 99 00:08:41,062 --> 00:08:44,690 into the name of his new blog that he started writing. 100 00:08:44,774 --> 00:08:47,235 And to give you an idea of how bad that blog was, 101 00:08:47,318 --> 00:08:48,778 they once had an article 102 00:08:48,861 --> 00:08:53,533 suggesting that maybe we should start trying black genocide, 103 00:08:53,616 --> 00:08:54,951 killing off all black people. 104 00:08:56,994 --> 00:08:59,956 The idea basically of the alternative right in the U.S. 105 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:02,416 is that the baby boomers sold them out, 106 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:05,294 have created a completely untenable situation 107 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:07,713 by encouraging non-white immigration, 108 00:09:08,839 --> 00:09:11,008 interracial relationships and so on. 109 00:09:12,969 --> 00:09:16,514 In many ways, the alternative right is just really a branding, 110 00:09:16,597 --> 00:09:18,474 a rebranding of white supremacy 111 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:20,101 for public relations purposes. 112 00:09:20,184 --> 00:09:22,228 There's the alt-right. 113 00:09:23,312 --> 00:09:26,315 They all get put under this umbrella of alt-right. 114 00:09:26,649 --> 00:09:31,445 And then there's a sliver here of total and utter nuts. 115 00:09:32,029 --> 00:09:37,118 You have the alt-lite that is totally fine with gays and wants legalization of drugs 116 00:09:37,201 --> 00:09:39,161 and is basically libertarian politically. 117 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:41,247 So, Milo Yiannopoulos. 118 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:44,917 You've got me, you've got Ann Coulter. 119 00:09:45,001 --> 00:09:46,586 Now the alt-right, 120 00:09:47,169 --> 00:09:51,924 you have a lot more conservative values, a lot more pro-white sentiment 121 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:53,926 that says, like Richard Spencer said, 122 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:55,928 very intelligent guy, I love debating him, 123 00:09:56,012 --> 00:10:00,057 but he said to me, "There's no future for non-whites in America." 124 00:10:00,141 --> 00:10:04,270 America was, until this past generation, a white country 125 00:10:04,353 --> 00:10:07,607 designed for ourselves and our posterity. 126 00:10:09,191 --> 00:10:11,569 That little stuff made Richard Spencer well-known 127 00:10:11,652 --> 00:10:13,821 in the mainstream as a white supremacist 128 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:18,743 because, when people started sieg-heiling and he started screaming "Hail victory," 129 00:10:18,826 --> 00:10:22,038 which, by the way, is the English translation of "Sieg Heil," 130 00:10:22,121 --> 00:10:24,457 that particular conference and that particular stunt 131 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:26,626 threw it all through the doors wide open 132 00:10:26,709 --> 00:10:29,629 as to what the so-called alt-right truly was. 133 00:10:29,712 --> 00:10:32,757 But we already knew who they were. It wasn't really a secret. 134 00:10:33,174 --> 00:10:36,552 The truth is that we are being ethnically cleansed 135 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:38,262 in our own nation, 136 00:10:38,554 --> 00:10:40,806 in the nation our own forefathers built. 137 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:42,183 This is what I know from this meeting, 138 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:44,727 I'd like for you to repeat it if you believe it. 139 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:47,146 The goyim know! 140 00:10:47,229 --> 00:10:49,690 - The goyim know! - Yeah! 141 00:10:49,774 --> 00:10:51,233 Hey, everyone, listen up! 142 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:54,153 Listen up! Everyone, everyone, listen up! 143 00:10:54,236 --> 00:10:56,614 You need to get together, turn around 144 00:10:56,697 --> 00:10:59,700 and move towards your vehicles, get in them and move now! 145 00:10:59,784 --> 00:11:02,745 We have violent Antifa on the way right now! 146 00:11:04,955 --> 00:11:08,000 We are going to be aggressive, we are gonna be confrontational 147 00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:11,295 and our way of doing that is basically 148 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:14,298 just exposing the hate mongers 149 00:11:14,382 --> 00:11:16,634 in ways that they don't want to be exposed. 150 00:11:22,973 --> 00:11:25,267 - Get out of my face! - What's wrong, man? 151 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:27,395 Get out of my face! Get out of my face! 152 00:11:27,478 --> 00:11:29,730 - You did! - We'd love to have-- 153 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:31,190 You know how racist they are! 154 00:11:31,273 --> 00:11:32,817 You know how hateful they are! 155 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,568 - No pictures. - Too late. And don't touch that. 156 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:35,903 Don't start anything like that. 157 00:11:35,986 --> 00:11:37,571 Don't start anything with me, boy. 158 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,240 - Boy? Boy? - Who is that? 159 00:11:39,323 --> 00:11:41,700 My organization is called One People's Project. 160 00:11:41,784 --> 00:11:44,829 And what we do is that we report and research 161 00:11:44,912 --> 00:11:48,040 and provide information about neo-Nazi groups 162 00:11:48,124 --> 00:11:49,917 and other assorted hate groups around the country. 163 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,962 One of the biggest fears is that they will be revealed, 164 00:11:53,045 --> 00:11:55,256 they will be doxxed, they will be found out 165 00:11:55,339 --> 00:11:56,882 and people would know who they are 166 00:11:56,966 --> 00:12:00,302 because that means they'll lose their job, they'll lose their standing in society. 167 00:12:00,386 --> 00:12:03,180 That crowd is more afraid of us than we are of them. 168 00:12:03,264 --> 00:12:04,723 What happens if you are doxxed? 169 00:12:04,807 --> 00:12:05,975 I'm probably fucked. 170 00:12:08,936 --> 00:12:11,188 Daryle Lamont Jenkins has made it a personal crusade 171 00:12:11,272 --> 00:12:13,399 to monitor and expose 172 00:12:13,482 --> 00:12:17,278 and, honestly, to annoy white supremacists all over the country. 173 00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:20,531 - You take a lot of pleasure in your work. - Oh, yes, indeed. 174 00:12:20,614 --> 00:12:23,117 He's pretty gross-looking, to be honest. 175 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,913 I personally like to be around people who are good-looking. 176 00:12:28,330 --> 00:12:29,874 You knew I was coming. 177 00:12:29,957 --> 00:12:31,417 I didn't know you were coming. 178 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:33,252 I thought you might be dead by now-- 179 00:12:33,335 --> 00:12:36,464 - No, no, no. That was your dream. - Because of your obesity. 180 00:12:36,547 --> 00:12:38,466 Yeah. Unfortunate-- 181 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:42,136 If you're whittled down to fat jokes, baby, then you're just done. 182 00:12:42,845 --> 00:12:45,347 First time I heard of Dick Spencer was in 2011. 183 00:12:45,431 --> 00:12:47,933 I mean, I sat in on the press conference that they was having. 184 00:12:48,017 --> 00:12:49,810 I asked a question. We were all good. 185 00:12:49,894 --> 00:12:53,981 It deteriorated from there because he's still a Nazi. 186 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:56,233 And I had to treat him like one. 187 00:12:56,317 --> 00:12:58,194 What do you think is gonna happen to the alt-right? 188 00:12:58,277 --> 00:12:59,487 I already know what's going to happen. 189 00:12:59,570 --> 00:13:01,030 - We've been here before. - Are we going to fall? 190 00:13:01,113 --> 00:13:02,448 - Oh, really? - Yes, you are gonna-- 191 00:13:02,531 --> 00:13:03,657 It's going to be like '45? 192 00:13:05,951 --> 00:13:09,038 Daryle Lamont Jenkins is a black activist 193 00:13:09,121 --> 00:13:12,082 whose job it is to try to silence people like me. 194 00:13:15,544 --> 00:13:18,380 People littered my neighborhood with my name and address 195 00:13:18,464 --> 00:13:21,258 and said, you know, in effect to go punch this guy out 196 00:13:21,342 --> 00:13:22,801 because of what he thinks. 197 00:13:22,885 --> 00:13:28,557 That kind of behavior can get a pass in our society today 198 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:32,645 because the zeitgeist is still in their favor. 199 00:13:32,728 --> 00:13:35,564 For the country to tolerate that, 200 00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:38,400 to me, is a sign of just how corrupt we've become. 201 00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:43,364 The idea that there's a substantial radical left in the U.S. 202 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:45,157 is ridiculous. 203 00:13:46,408 --> 00:13:49,828 The claim that there are somehow some sort of equivalency 204 00:13:49,912 --> 00:13:51,705 that, you know, you've got this large radical right 205 00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:56,585 and then equally large and equally scary radical left is simply not true. 206 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,963 And I'm not denying historical realities. 207 00:13:59,046 --> 00:14:01,423 Look, I mean in the 1960s, early '70s, 208 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:05,052 there was a whole lot of left-wing real-life terrorism. 209 00:14:05,135 --> 00:14:06,845 But that's simply not true anymore. 210 00:14:08,138 --> 00:14:09,932 Some members of the alt-right, 211 00:14:10,015 --> 00:14:15,229 their literature says that women should be feminine and polite. 212 00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:19,024 Those are their two adjectives, feminine and polite. 213 00:14:19,608 --> 00:14:22,319 Guess what, I'm not going to go back into the kitchen, 214 00:14:22,403 --> 00:14:24,613 I'm not going to be barefoot and pregnant, 215 00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:29,577 I am not going to let them rollback my rights. I'm not going back. 216 00:14:30,202 --> 00:14:33,581 And I will fight them with my last breath. 217 00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:36,834 I think there are a lot of young people 218 00:14:36,917 --> 00:14:38,586 who, through whatever circumstances 219 00:14:38,669 --> 00:14:42,673 came to be really disillusioned with the social environment they grew up in 220 00:14:42,756 --> 00:14:46,552 and see this as some kind of reactionary response 221 00:14:46,635 --> 00:14:48,804 that kind of appeals to them. 222 00:14:50,347 --> 00:14:51,849 With a lot of these young kids, 223 00:14:51,932 --> 00:14:55,603 they haven't read the book, they've watched a YouTube video 224 00:14:55,686 --> 00:14:57,688 that's given it all to them. And I'm not-- 225 00:14:57,771 --> 00:14:59,773 I don't say that to dismiss them 226 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:03,569 because it's almost like some of us were smoking, 227 00:15:03,652 --> 00:15:06,697 you know, weed for years and tried a little cocaine 228 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:10,034 and some of these young kids just like injected heroin into their eyeball. 229 00:15:10,117 --> 00:15:12,620 But they've come to these ideas much more quickly 230 00:15:12,703 --> 00:15:14,663 and in a much more intense fashion. 231 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:17,875 I was attracted to a lot of the arguments they were making, 232 00:15:17,958 --> 00:15:22,421 as far as advocating for white people, advocating for your own self-interest 233 00:15:22,504 --> 00:15:24,965 when everybody else is doing the same thing, 234 00:15:25,049 --> 00:15:27,509 it's kind of sink or swim scenario. 235 00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:30,679 I don't think that the alt-right would exist 236 00:15:30,763 --> 00:15:34,934 in the way that it does today without a medium like the Internet. 237 00:15:35,017 --> 00:15:38,687 People can do it anonymously and without consequence 238 00:15:38,771 --> 00:15:43,859 and then actually be, "rewarded for doing so." 239 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:47,613 You know, it's an incentivized system that just creates more and more hate. 240 00:15:48,322 --> 00:15:52,368 There's a lot of hate that's out there in today's society. 241 00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:56,288 People who have just been involved in this kind of hate politics, 242 00:15:56,372 --> 00:16:00,042 they're just getting beaten down at every single turn, 243 00:16:00,125 --> 00:16:05,673 and along comes a guy like Donald Trump who gives them a little bit of juice. 244 00:16:06,382 --> 00:16:12,262 The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer. 245 00:16:14,932 --> 00:16:17,977 So much unrealized potential. 246 00:16:18,894 --> 00:16:23,649 This American carnage stops right here 247 00:16:23,732 --> 00:16:26,652 and stops right now. 248 00:16:30,197 --> 00:16:33,283 Donald Trump did appeal to a certain incipient 249 00:16:33,367 --> 00:16:35,244 racial consciousness among the electorate. 250 00:16:35,327 --> 00:16:36,829 A certain number of people, 251 00:16:36,912 --> 00:16:41,583 an unknown number of people voted for him because he wanted to build a wall, 252 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:44,086 he wanted to throw out all illegals 253 00:16:44,169 --> 00:16:47,339 and he wanted to take a very, very hard look at Muslim immigration. 254 00:16:48,132 --> 00:16:51,552 Those people are incipiently racially conscious 255 00:16:51,635 --> 00:16:56,181 because all of those policies, they will slow the dispossession of whites, 256 00:16:56,265 --> 00:16:58,600 they will slow the reduction of whites to a minority. 257 00:16:58,684 --> 00:17:02,396 This is an important appeal to a certain number of Americans. 258 00:17:02,479 --> 00:17:03,605 I don't know how many. 259 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:08,861 My friend Alonzo Bodden has a very funny quote, he's a comedian. 260 00:17:08,944 --> 00:17:11,030 He goes, "Not all Trump supporters are racists, 261 00:17:11,113 --> 00:17:12,573 but all racists are Trump supporters." 262 00:17:12,656 --> 00:17:13,574 Right, right, right. 263 00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:17,953 I think it's almost impossible 264 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:20,080 to say what the next three and a half years of Trump 265 00:17:20,164 --> 00:17:21,331 are going to play out like. 266 00:17:21,415 --> 00:17:25,252 Assuming that Trump is not impeached or doesn't wind up in prison, 267 00:17:25,794 --> 00:17:29,089 you know, I think that things are going to get worse. 268 00:17:29,465 --> 00:17:31,091 For these four years, 269 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:34,553 white nationalists really feel like they have their man in the White House 270 00:17:34,636 --> 00:17:37,931 and that maybe they will be able to make real progress 271 00:17:38,015 --> 00:17:43,687 in terms of, uh, cracking down on non-white immigration, that kind of thing. 272 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,069 The inauguration was actually quite civilized. 273 00:17:50,152 --> 00:17:53,614 There was heavy police presence. Everyone was well behaved. 274 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:58,911 Fuck that! Fuck-- 275 00:17:58,994 --> 00:18:02,790 There was a-- An Australian broadcast company came over. 276 00:18:02,873 --> 00:18:05,417 So there was a big circle around. 277 00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:08,170 And I was doing my usual stuff. 278 00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:10,506 So I was engaging in some banter-- 279 00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:12,591 Are you like a hipster version of the neo-Nazi movement? 280 00:18:12,674 --> 00:18:13,759 What? 281 00:18:13,842 --> 00:18:15,844 It's a-- It's a kind of a symbol-- 282 00:18:16,553 --> 00:18:18,138 Fuck you! 283 00:18:18,222 --> 00:18:20,474 Hey! 284 00:18:21,767 --> 00:18:23,060 Yo, brother, let me see your face! 285 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:24,311 - Fuck you, man. - What's your name? 286 00:18:24,394 --> 00:18:25,979 - Fuck you, man! - You're a fucking criminal! 287 00:18:26,063 --> 00:18:27,606 - Get the fuck away from me! - You're a criminal! 288 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:32,569 I can punch Richard Spencer right in the face. 289 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:36,073 Just inside of my head, 290 00:18:36,156 --> 00:18:39,284 so I can't hear out of this ear too well right now. 291 00:18:40,077 --> 00:18:41,537 Do you feel safe? 292 00:18:42,579 --> 00:18:45,374 Um, I ultimately feel safe, 293 00:18:47,084 --> 00:18:48,961 but I would say this, uh, 294 00:18:49,711 --> 00:18:52,464 and I almost regret saying this 295 00:18:52,548 --> 00:18:57,553 because I know it will give my enemies some joy, 296 00:18:57,636 --> 00:19:03,433 but I would say that two years ago I would feel utterly safe 297 00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:07,729 and I wouldn't-- I felt that I could be anonymous. 298 00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:12,776 We've entered a new stage where political violence has returned. 299 00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:15,028 Do you know who punched him? 300 00:19:16,905 --> 00:19:18,782 Can you give me any info about it? Because nobody-- 301 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,785 - I cannot give you any information. - Nobody knows anything. 302 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:24,621 What the Antifas, the anti-fascists, are doing 303 00:19:24,705 --> 00:19:26,915 by and large is really wrong. 304 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:29,042 Uh, it is really a mistake. 305 00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,879 It may feel great for some guy with a black mask on 306 00:19:31,962 --> 00:19:35,174 to run up and punch Richard Spencer on the side of the face, 307 00:19:35,257 --> 00:19:39,178 but it does not help, uh, progressive causes in this country. 308 00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:41,054 In fact, it does just the opposite. 309 00:19:41,138 --> 00:19:44,600 I think that he doesn't have any moral authority 310 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:46,810 to actually say, "Gee, whiz, 311 00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:49,271 I shouldn't get a sucker punch in the face." 312 00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:51,940 I think Theodore Kaczynski, the Unabomber, said that. 313 00:19:52,024 --> 00:19:52,941 What did he say? 314 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:56,778 That the only really truly effective thing in any movement is violence. 315 00:19:57,529 --> 00:20:00,073 And it's hard to argue that. 316 00:20:00,157 --> 00:20:02,701 If they want to shut down Antifa, they should be violent. 317 00:20:02,784 --> 00:20:04,786 I cannot recommend violence enough. 318 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:08,040 It is a really effective way to solve problems. 319 00:20:08,123 --> 00:20:12,169 If you really believe that the white majority in this country 320 00:20:12,252 --> 00:20:14,421 is under threat in some way, 321 00:20:14,504 --> 00:20:18,550 any act of violence is just going to make things worse for white people. 322 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:20,594 We don't believe in absolute non-violence. 323 00:20:20,677 --> 00:20:24,431 Our understanding is that one can engage in violence 324 00:20:24,514 --> 00:20:25,849 when all other means fail. 325 00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:29,478 My thing has always been, if you're going to engage in violence, 326 00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:31,730 basically, it has to be as a form of defense. 327 00:20:31,813 --> 00:20:36,318 But, like I said, when you see folks on the other side taking swipes at us, 328 00:20:36,401 --> 00:20:39,404 naturally folks are swiping back. 329 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:42,491 As far as I'm concerned, you picked this fight, now fight. 330 00:20:42,574 --> 00:20:44,576 Knock the crap out him, would you? 331 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:49,164 Seriously. I promise you I will pay for the legal fees, I promise. 332 00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:52,918 Developing news. Anger boiling over. 333 00:20:53,001 --> 00:20:55,128 Our cameras are rolling as fights break out 334 00:20:55,212 --> 00:20:59,049 between anti-Trump protesters and the President's supporters. 335 00:21:02,386 --> 00:21:05,514 Just trying to learn more. I'm just seeing it for the first time now. 336 00:21:08,141 --> 00:21:13,188 So, this rally was especially important for a lot of the Trump supporters 337 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,232 because this was supposed to be the day 338 00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:17,442 where they would just show Antifa what's up. 339 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:20,445 Unfortunately, it looks like Antifa showed them. 340 00:21:20,529 --> 00:21:22,572 The silent majority does support Trump. 341 00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:24,574 Because I voted for him and I support him 342 00:21:24,658 --> 00:21:26,618 and he's doing exactly what we asked him to do 343 00:21:26,702 --> 00:21:28,912 and that's exactly why he's the greatest president. 344 00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:31,581 - Have you been happy so far? - Completely happy. 345 00:21:31,665 --> 00:21:33,542 Every reason for everything he's doing right now 346 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:35,460 is every reason why I voted for him. 347 00:21:35,544 --> 00:21:36,920 The Trump supporters, 348 00:21:37,004 --> 00:21:39,965 they keep talking about how they're fed up 349 00:21:40,048 --> 00:21:44,928 with the way their society is going and they want their country back. Uh-uh. 350 00:21:45,012 --> 00:21:46,221 You fed up? 351 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:49,182 You don't know fed up. We know fed up. 352 00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:51,560 And... 353 00:21:52,894 --> 00:21:54,354 that's why we're going to win. 354 00:22:18,170 --> 00:22:22,132 The Southern Poverty Law Center is not a law enforcement organization. 355 00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:27,345 So, if SPL staffers run across a real-life criminal plot, 356 00:22:27,429 --> 00:22:29,514 you know, they don't play games, right? 357 00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:33,727 They go straight to the FBI or the local police force, whoever it is. 358 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:38,065 Part of this work is that people want to kill you or at least they say they do. 359 00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:40,609 So, we've had a lot of threats over the years. 360 00:22:40,692 --> 00:22:43,779 You know, I've had to surround the house with cameras, 361 00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:47,449 you know, television system and closed circuit TV system 362 00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:49,659 that completely encircles our house. 363 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:53,955 Certainly, over the years, we've gotten mail from the Klan here. 364 00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:58,835 At one point, we had a threat from the Aryan Brotherhood, 365 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:02,798 uh, and my bosses insisted that we move out of the house for a week. 366 00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:06,301 You know, at one point, I was notified last year 367 00:23:06,384 --> 00:23:10,472 by a letter from a federal court in New York State 368 00:23:10,555 --> 00:23:13,600 that a certain guy had bought a machine gun 369 00:23:13,683 --> 00:23:17,395 and part of the plan was to kill me among others. 370 00:23:23,193 --> 00:23:25,195 Do you know who Mark Potok is? 371 00:23:25,278 --> 00:23:26,780 - Yeah. - What are your thoughts on him? 372 00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:29,032 He's obviously a terrible human being. 373 00:23:29,741 --> 00:23:32,160 Um, and, you know, 374 00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:36,164 he clearly wants to shut down free speech. 375 00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:39,501 And, if given the power and if given the opportunity, 376 00:23:39,584 --> 00:23:43,505 I am positive that he would want to arrest people like me 377 00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:45,799 for selling distrust in the communities 378 00:23:45,882 --> 00:23:48,969 or some, you know, Orwellian phrase like that. 379 00:23:49,052 --> 00:23:50,887 Richard Spencer is a guy, 380 00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:53,974 sad to say, that came out of the real academic world, 381 00:23:54,057 --> 00:23:57,102 he actually got a master's at University of Chicago, 382 00:23:57,185 --> 00:24:00,814 who in 2011 took over a small little-known outfit 383 00:24:00,897 --> 00:24:03,024 called the National Policy Institute 384 00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:06,403 and turned it into something more than it had been. 385 00:24:06,486 --> 00:24:10,031 Who are we? We aren't just white. 386 00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:13,201 White is a checkbox on the census form. 387 00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:19,833 We are part of the people's history, spirit and civilization of Europe. 388 00:24:19,916 --> 00:24:22,878 Spencer was able to get a fair following 389 00:24:22,961 --> 00:24:24,212 by presenting himself 390 00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:27,841 as the kind of well-dressed suit-and-tie version of the Klan. 391 00:24:27,924 --> 00:24:31,052 The SPLC is a hate group effectively 392 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:34,264 because they spend much of their time hating people. 393 00:24:34,347 --> 00:24:37,350 The hate list is basically a list of people it hates. 394 00:24:37,434 --> 00:24:40,896 If you're not on that list, it does mean you're a cock. 395 00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:43,982 But, definitely, if you're not, you're not cool. 396 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:48,778 Spencer wants the attention. Spencer adores the attention. 397 00:24:48,862 --> 00:24:51,573 That's the biggest downfall to any Nazi. 398 00:24:51,656 --> 00:24:56,244 Because, if he is considered to be a household name, 399 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,788 what can you do with that? How do you grow with that? 400 00:24:58,872 --> 00:25:00,457 Answer? You don't. 401 00:25:11,301 --> 00:25:14,763 This is an old Klan hood that I got from someone. 402 00:25:14,846 --> 00:25:16,848 Whenever they get out of the WP scene, 403 00:25:16,932 --> 00:25:20,477 they tend to want to get rid of all the things that were a part of it. 404 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,731 H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. HH, Heil Hitler. 405 00:25:26,024 --> 00:25:30,862 That same person also gave me all of his literature. 406 00:25:32,864 --> 00:25:34,532 These are two bags of that. 407 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:40,330 They have comic books, racist comic books. There's also newsletters. 408 00:25:40,413 --> 00:25:43,083 I go after a group called the National Socialist Movement. 409 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,418 They even have cookbooks. 410 00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:47,796 And, uh... 411 00:25:51,841 --> 00:25:53,468 this crap. 412 00:25:53,551 --> 00:25:56,179 But that's it, that's what I got. That's what I brought here today. 413 00:25:56,263 --> 00:25:58,014 They want an ethnostate. 414 00:25:58,098 --> 00:26:02,352 They want a white ethnostate. They want us to be separated by race. 415 00:26:02,435 --> 00:26:03,812 And that's what they're pushing for. 416 00:26:03,895 --> 00:26:05,397 So, if you're ever hearing about any nonsense 417 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,150 about being patriotic coming from this crowd, that's crap. 418 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:11,820 The truth of the matter is that's a fascist state. 419 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:14,739 I'm Antifa. I don't let fascist state grow. 420 00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:21,913 Tell me about this idea you have of a white ethnostate... 421 00:26:21,997 --> 00:26:22,998 Mmm-hmm. 422 00:26:23,081 --> 00:26:26,084 ...within the U.S. and how you see that working. 423 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:27,127 Well... 424 00:26:28,086 --> 00:26:31,381 I don't think it would take place within the U.S. 425 00:26:31,798 --> 00:26:34,801 Um, the ethnostate and, as I conceive it, 426 00:26:34,884 --> 00:26:38,638 is a post-American possibility. 427 00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:43,601 And it would happen after a dramatic paradigm change 428 00:26:44,352 --> 00:26:47,564 after which America, U.S. as we know it, 429 00:26:47,647 --> 00:26:50,483 would lose legitimacy, would no longer be possible 430 00:26:50,567 --> 00:26:53,153 and we would have to need something new. 431 00:26:53,695 --> 00:26:57,240 So, it is a kind of post-revolutionary idea. 432 00:26:57,949 --> 00:27:03,621 And it would ultimately be a safe haven for all whites around the world. 433 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:07,042 Whether you're Russian or Irish or Italian or Norwegian, 434 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,127 this would be a safe place for you. 435 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:11,796 So, it would have a kind of Zionist component to it. 436 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,134 It would be like Israel is a safe haven for world Jewry. 437 00:27:16,593 --> 00:27:19,179 And that would be the ethnostate. 438 00:27:19,262 --> 00:27:24,476 There are literally tens and tens and tens of millions of people who are not white, 439 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,979 who are not Christian, and who were born in this country 440 00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:31,107 and whose parents and grandparents were born in this country. 441 00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:35,153 Do you think they're gonna leave because Richard Spencer would like them to? 442 00:27:35,236 --> 00:27:39,157 You know, the ideology is a prescription for mass murder. 443 00:27:43,161 --> 00:27:46,122 The partition in August 1947 444 00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:49,376 saw the British Indian empire split in two, 445 00:27:49,459 --> 00:27:51,544 mostly along religious lines. 446 00:27:51,961 --> 00:27:55,215 Pakistan was intended to be the Muslim homeland. 447 00:27:55,298 --> 00:27:58,510 India, intended for Hindus and Sikhs. 448 00:27:59,135 --> 00:28:01,471 It was a recipe for trouble. 449 00:28:02,138 --> 00:28:06,267 Partition triggered one of the largest migrations in human history. 450 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:10,522 Muslims trekked to West and East Pakistan, later Bangladesh. 451 00:28:10,605 --> 00:28:13,149 Millions of Hindus went the other way. 452 00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:17,362 A hastily drawn border cut families, farms and communities in two. 453 00:28:17,445 --> 00:28:20,615 Between one and two million people died in the process. 454 00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:24,661 It would be just a total renewal of whites as a people. 455 00:28:24,744 --> 00:28:26,788 We'd no longer be these just, 456 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:31,960 you know, silly fat goofballs and dockers 457 00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:34,087 going off to our graves. 458 00:28:34,754 --> 00:28:37,841 Now, would gays be allowed in this society? 459 00:28:37,924 --> 00:28:40,510 Yes. Uh, yeah. 460 00:28:40,593 --> 00:28:42,762 I mean, it would be for whites, and... 461 00:28:42,846 --> 00:28:46,099 Look, I don't know the origins of homosexuality. 462 00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:48,810 I think there might be a genetic component. 463 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:53,648 I've read literature on a physical, but non-genetic component, 464 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:57,235 uh, that it's something that occurs in the womb actually. 465 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,531 Um, there's also been-- There's a germ theory and so on. 466 00:29:01,614 --> 00:29:05,285 There is gonna be a portion of the population that's going to be gay. 467 00:29:06,703 --> 00:29:09,831 And I think we should just live with that and it's OK. 468 00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:15,044 We don't want to focus our energies on converting homosexuals. 469 00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:24,053 I wasn't here a few days before I was getting harassing letters 470 00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:28,683 and bad looks or people knocking on my door or things like that. 471 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,603 I mean it gets a bit annoying, to be honest. 472 00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:34,647 And it is kind of funny that I provoke them so much. 473 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:39,819 OK. 474 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:44,449 I've answered this question, "Are you a white supremacist?" So many times 475 00:29:44,532 --> 00:29:49,078 that I'm kind of sick of it and I'm tempted to almost say, "Yes." 476 00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:54,167 I'm Satan to them, but, you know, people are ultimately fascinated by Satan. 477 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:58,463 I'm not sure anyone is able to read that except me. 478 00:29:59,005 --> 00:30:01,007 Maybe that's a good thing. 479 00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:06,554 There is no doubt 480 00:30:06,638 --> 00:30:11,100 that the alt-right has been attractive to angst-ridden young men. 481 00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:12,977 And I think that's interesting 482 00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:18,942 because it's ultimately frustrated and ambitious young men who change the world. 483 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:21,027 I'm going to fix a bourbon. 484 00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,905 I don't want my reputation to suffer. 485 00:30:23,988 --> 00:30:25,615 OK, let's do it. 486 00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:31,704 America is going to have to fragment for this new ideology to emerge. 487 00:30:32,205 --> 00:30:33,498 And that's what's happening. 488 00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:38,253 All right, so this is a "I'm pissed off" video, so... 489 00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:43,007 Go Alex Jones, just take my shirt off. 490 00:30:45,593 --> 00:30:51,474 All right. Well, I sometimes wonder if I am living in a time warp 491 00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:55,103 and whether we're just repeating past mistakes, 492 00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:56,896 having learned nothing. 493 00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:59,607 Are they a fad like some people have posed 494 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:00,942 or are they a real threat? 495 00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:03,152 I don't think that there's any question at all 496 00:31:03,236 --> 00:31:08,992 that we are seeing a real rise of this kind of ethnoracial nationalism 497 00:31:09,075 --> 00:31:10,326 in the U.S., 498 00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:12,912 and in fact, in much of the Western world in general. 499 00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:17,375 You know, I think this is a massive historical kind of trend 500 00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:20,253 and it's going to get worse before it gets better. 501 00:31:20,336 --> 00:31:22,338 Should we even talk about the alt-right 502 00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,257 or would that be giving them a platform? 503 00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:29,095 There's a kind of struggle that I would characterize 504 00:31:29,178 --> 00:31:33,725 as the kind of policy of quarantine versus the policy of inoculation. 505 00:31:33,808 --> 00:31:35,476 Back in the 1950s, 506 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,730 when groups like the American Nazi Party were beginning to pop up, 507 00:31:38,813 --> 00:31:42,650 a number of Jewish agencies and other groups got together 508 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:47,530 and approached newspaper publishers, people who ran television stations 509 00:31:47,614 --> 00:31:49,407 and said, "Look, don't cover the American Nazi Party. 510 00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:50,533 If you give attention to them, 511 00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:53,703 it will just help them build up and get more members and so on." 512 00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:58,124 Well, it was somewhat useful for a while, that policy, quarantine. 513 00:31:58,207 --> 00:32:00,793 It was actually called the quarantine policy. 514 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:05,173 Today, I think obviously that's totally impossible as a practical matter. 515 00:32:05,256 --> 00:32:09,802 There are so many venues out there from cable to social media to talk radio, 516 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:13,348 of course, to all kinds of, you know, zines and so on 517 00:32:13,431 --> 00:32:17,018 that it is virtually now impossible to suppress information. 518 00:32:17,101 --> 00:32:18,269 So, what do you do? 519 00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:20,396 You just stand back and pretend it doesn't exist 520 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,732 or keep your mouth shut and hope nobody's listening? 521 00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:24,108 I think not. You know? 522 00:32:24,192 --> 00:32:26,110 I think that the answer is 523 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:31,950 to take on the claims of these groups and the radical right in general directly. 524 00:32:33,993 --> 00:32:37,330 Hello, I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance. 525 00:32:37,413 --> 00:32:42,543 The mainstream media are now full of stories explaining the alt-right. 526 00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:47,632 Even a Japanese newspaper interviewed me the other day about the "alto-righto." 527 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:53,262 As a long-standing member of the alt-right, this is how I see it. 528 00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:58,393 We are a broad dissident movement that includes many different websites, 529 00:32:58,476 --> 00:33:00,561 organizations and viewpoints. 530 00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:06,484 But they all agree on one thing, equality is a dangerous myth. 531 00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,574 Jared Taylor has published for a long time now 532 00:33:13,658 --> 00:33:15,910 a journal called American Renaissance. 533 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,871 And this is fundamentally a white nationalist journal, 534 00:33:18,955 --> 00:33:24,085 but one which does not engage in the use of slurs and so on. 535 00:33:24,168 --> 00:33:28,631 This is my latest book, yes. So, you're welcome to have a copy. 536 00:33:30,258 --> 00:33:33,970 Jared Taylor is considered now to be 537 00:33:34,053 --> 00:33:36,431 the godfather of the alternative right. 538 00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:42,020 East Asians are, on average, maybe three or four IQ points above whites. 539 00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:45,148 And these are just differences we have to deal with. 540 00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:48,359 And to pretend they're not there is just like pretending that, uh, 541 00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:51,404 I don't know, that males and females are absolutely identical. 542 00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:52,822 They're just not the same. 543 00:33:52,905 --> 00:33:55,408 Jared Taylor and a number of other white supremacists 544 00:33:55,491 --> 00:33:57,160 set up this hierarchy, 545 00:33:57,243 --> 00:34:00,329 where he said, "Well, Asians are even smarter than we white people, 546 00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:02,874 so we can't be racist because we recognize, boy, 547 00:34:02,957 --> 00:34:05,126 they're really good at math compared to us. 548 00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:10,465 But, of course, we are vastly smarter and better people genetically 549 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:13,593 than black people, than brown people," and so on. 550 00:34:13,676 --> 00:34:19,015 The idea that you can identify, you know, entire groups of people 551 00:34:19,515 --> 00:34:21,601 based on their IQ is absurd. 552 00:34:21,684 --> 00:34:25,563 First, how do you divide between "black people and white people"? 553 00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:28,941 Right? I mean if you have one black ancestor 554 00:34:29,025 --> 00:34:31,569 and 20,000 white ones, does that make you black? 555 00:34:31,652 --> 00:34:33,362 What about if it's the reverse? 556 00:34:33,446 --> 00:34:37,575 You can study these phenomena and there are group differences. 557 00:34:37,658 --> 00:34:39,827 But, as Adlai Stevenson liked to say, 558 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:43,247 "Given a choice between agreeable fantasy and disagreeable fact, 559 00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,708 Americans will go for the fantasy every time." 560 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:53,424 The idea that you could figure out 561 00:34:53,508 --> 00:34:56,135 who was good racial stock and who was not good racial stock 562 00:34:56,219 --> 00:34:58,596 based on measurements of your skull. 563 00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:01,599 The science was absolutely not science at all. 564 00:35:01,682 --> 00:35:03,726 It was ridiculous. None of those things were true. 565 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,898 What's wrong with eugenics? 566 00:35:08,981 --> 00:35:13,778 Which is basically the idea that we can breed better human beings 567 00:35:13,861 --> 00:35:16,864 by not allowing certain people to procreate. 568 00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,533 Well, Nazi Germany eugenics 569 00:35:18,616 --> 00:35:22,370 ended with the murder of tens of thousands of children 570 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,580 who were mentally ill or mentally retarded 571 00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:26,916 or had some physical handicap. 572 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,174 It is this idea that there are better people and worse people 573 00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:37,552 and that is determined by genes. 574 00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:41,305 So, if only we can stop the people with worse genes 575 00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:42,682 and, of course, once upon a time, 576 00:35:42,765 --> 00:35:46,978 that included black people, gay people, brown people, yellow people, and so on, 577 00:35:47,061 --> 00:35:49,313 then we will make a better world. 578 00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:54,569 War is not a pretty thing at best, 579 00:35:54,652 --> 00:35:57,864 but no words can express the world's disgust 580 00:35:57,947 --> 00:36:00,616 at Germany's organized carnage. 581 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:01,909 Behind its high walls, 582 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:05,413 their victims, Poles, Greeks, Russians, any non-Germans, 583 00:36:05,496 --> 00:36:07,582 were systematically slaughtered. 584 00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:10,543 It's worth pointing out that the eugenics movement 585 00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:14,255 was in many ways born in the U.S. 586 00:36:14,338 --> 00:36:18,176 The sad fact is that Adolf Hitler and the Nazis 587 00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:20,303 looked to the U.S. 588 00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:22,471 when they were getting interested in eugenics, 589 00:36:22,555 --> 00:36:25,349 when they were getting interested in race laws, 590 00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:28,227 when they were getting interested in laws against miscegenation, 591 00:36:28,311 --> 00:36:29,770 so-called race mixing. 592 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:33,399 Ultimately, the U.S. turned against this idea. 593 00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:35,985 Eugenics and the ideas behind eugenics 594 00:36:36,068 --> 00:36:39,864 have been absolutely and utterly discredited 595 00:36:39,947 --> 00:36:42,158 uh, by virtually all scientists, 596 00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:47,330 absent an incredibly tiny fringe of people on the extreme right. 597 00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:51,751 Now that I am considered, oh... 598 00:36:54,378 --> 00:36:56,380 a dangerous figure, I suppose, 599 00:36:56,464 --> 00:36:59,675 it's difficult to persuade mainstream publishers to publish my books. 600 00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:01,969 I used to get the mainstream to do this. 601 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:06,807 White people, certainly white southerners, are the only group in this country 602 00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:09,602 who are not allowed to take pride in who they are. 603 00:37:09,685 --> 00:37:14,607 You can be black, Hispanic, Asian, Indian, African, anything at all, 604 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:17,526 you can be proud of who you are. Not white people. 605 00:37:27,411 --> 00:37:31,832 So, this is back when I was still respectable writing about Japan. 606 00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:35,002 He's written a number of books, speaks fluent Japanese, 607 00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,088 is a world traveler, 608 00:37:37,171 --> 00:37:40,508 plays an instrument in a classical chamber orchestra and so on, 609 00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:44,220 but he is also the guy who, for the last 20 years, 610 00:37:44,303 --> 00:37:49,267 arguably has done more than any other to mainstream white nationalism. 611 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:51,644 So, they consider you a hatemonger. 612 00:37:51,727 --> 00:37:54,647 Hmm, yes, I'm a hater. They can look into my soul. 613 00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:56,399 They know what motivates me. 614 00:37:56,482 --> 00:37:58,985 Don't even talk to him because we know. 615 00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:03,864 And they say, "Because we know, we have designated him a hate group." 616 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:06,867 And so every time the liberal media talks to someone like me, 617 00:38:06,951 --> 00:38:10,371 they say, "And, by the way, this objective rating agency, 618 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:13,874 as if there's sort of a Standard & Poor of the ideological spectrum, 619 00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:17,503 they have put him on the hate list." 620 00:38:17,586 --> 00:38:19,630 No, this is just absurd. 621 00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:21,966 The goal is not simply being angry. 622 00:38:22,049 --> 00:38:25,469 The goal is to change the minds of our fellow whites 623 00:38:25,553 --> 00:38:29,348 and create an environment in which our culture will survive. 624 00:38:44,363 --> 00:38:48,743 Back in January of last year, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. 625 00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:51,412 And that hit me for a loop. 626 00:38:52,455 --> 00:38:56,709 It was just a blow because I knew that my life was about to change. 627 00:38:56,792 --> 00:38:59,462 And life is at that point 628 00:38:59,545 --> 00:39:01,839 where it's going to start taking things away from you. 629 00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:07,678 Well, I never really looked at the directions 630 00:39:07,762 --> 00:39:08,971 that I was going in personally, 631 00:39:09,055 --> 00:39:10,306 I was only concerned with the profession, 632 00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:13,976 I was only concerned with going out there trying to help others 633 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,896 and trying to, um, make everyone else's life better. 634 00:39:16,979 --> 00:39:18,230 And then, I look back and said, 635 00:39:18,314 --> 00:39:20,691 "Wait, what about mine? What about me? What do I want?" 636 00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:24,737 And I really only started asking those questions last year, 637 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:26,280 when I got the diagnosis. 638 00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,204 Last year, 2016, was a nice a little yin and yang 639 00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:36,665 because I had the cancer on one end, 640 00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:39,126 but I was also working on the television show on the other. 641 00:39:39,210 --> 00:39:41,379 I was showing up on Rachel Maddow. 642 00:39:41,462 --> 00:39:43,255 I was showing up on Joy Reid. 643 00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:49,053 People on my side started to know me as opposed to just folks on the right, 644 00:39:49,428 --> 00:39:53,391 because I was notorious on the right for a good 16 years at this point, 645 00:39:53,474 --> 00:39:57,103 but no one on the left, no one in the mainstream knew who I was. 646 00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:59,772 When that cancer hit, I said that has to change. 647 00:39:59,855 --> 00:40:00,981 That has to change 648 00:40:01,065 --> 00:40:05,444 because I'm not gonna just have my legacy defined by neo-Nazis. 649 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:10,825 I think I focused a lot more on the relationships of the people around me. 650 00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:12,451 I'm closer to my family. 651 00:40:12,535 --> 00:40:14,745 It's not like we haven't been close before, 652 00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:19,708 but I really wanted to, uh, make sure that they understood. 653 00:40:19,792 --> 00:40:23,003 See, one of the things that my family 654 00:40:23,087 --> 00:40:26,298 was never really a part of was my work. 655 00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:28,759 Two weeks from now, dinner at stage house and shelter. 656 00:40:28,843 --> 00:40:30,136 I will be there. 657 00:40:30,219 --> 00:40:32,346 - Um, as it is, I hear-- - We need to call your friends. 658 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,098 I hear I'm going to go see Thor. 659 00:40:34,181 --> 00:40:36,851 I was just basically trying to protect them. 660 00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:41,147 But now is the case of "You got to know who I am. 661 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,149 You got to know what I've been doing out there." 662 00:40:44,984 --> 00:40:49,697 My only regret, and it's a big one, is my father passed on before he understood. 663 00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:51,365 He passed on in 2011. 664 00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:54,827 He never knew really what I was doing out there. 665 00:40:55,786 --> 00:40:59,498 He was the strongest man in the world as far as I was concerned. 666 00:40:59,582 --> 00:41:02,084 He taught me how to fight. 667 00:41:02,168 --> 00:41:06,172 He taught me how to teach, how to educate. 668 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,967 He did participate in the sit-ins 669 00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:12,761 while he was a student at Benedict College in South Carolina. 670 00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:15,890 My father's from Newark, New Jersey. 671 00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:20,478 And aggressive physical contact from our brothers in Newark, New Jersey, 672 00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:21,562 doesn't go over well. 673 00:41:21,645 --> 00:41:23,981 If you're gonna fight somebody, you're gonna fight. 674 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:28,819 He was doing sit-ins, and that non-violent thing was only to a point. 675 00:41:28,903 --> 00:41:30,696 And they're getting yelled at, they are screamed at, 676 00:41:30,779 --> 00:41:31,989 they are being called names. 677 00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:35,326 One guy decided he was going to squeeze mustard on everybody's head 678 00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,286 and just went on down the line. 679 00:41:37,369 --> 00:41:39,580 He got to my father, and learned the hard way 680 00:41:39,663 --> 00:41:44,376 just what it felt like to get thrown through a plate-glass window behind him. 681 00:41:45,044 --> 00:41:47,171 Father almost got expelled for that one. 682 00:41:47,838 --> 00:41:51,592 But that's about as much activism that I think my father's done. 683 00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:54,178 I think that was pretty significant though. 684 00:42:01,977 --> 00:42:05,814 In what way did your childhood influence your worldview? 685 00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:11,612 We are a product of--of our upbringing at some level. 686 00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:16,075 That said, I don't think it really affected me directly. 687 00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:20,913 Um, my parents are not alt-right in the sense... 688 00:42:20,996 --> 00:42:25,292 Country Club Republican is a term that probably fits them pretty well, 689 00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:27,753 even though they're not members of Country Club. 690 00:42:27,836 --> 00:42:30,256 I think a lot of people want to believe 691 00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:34,176 that anyone who thinks race is real and race is something worth fighting for, 692 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:35,594 if you believe that, 693 00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:41,308 you must have been inculcated, indoctrinated when you're a kid and so on. 694 00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:43,894 Probably nothing could be further from the truth. 695 00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,147 My childhood was, I would say, pretty idyllic. 696 00:42:47,231 --> 00:42:49,692 I mean, it was in the burbs. 697 00:42:49,775 --> 00:42:52,903 If you just looked at my life from that standpoint, 698 00:42:52,987 --> 00:42:56,115 you'd say, "Oh, what is Richard going to become?" 699 00:42:56,198 --> 00:42:58,742 You would probably say he was going to become a banker 700 00:42:58,826 --> 00:43:02,871 or a lawyer, a doctor, an architect or something like that. 701 00:43:02,955 --> 00:43:08,127 I don't think you would have said, you know, "Vanguard intellectual, 702 00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:12,673 banned in multiple European countries, denounced by Hillary Clinton." 703 00:43:12,756 --> 00:43:14,258 I don't think you would say that. 704 00:43:14,341 --> 00:43:16,176 We're just gonna sit there in the vehicle 705 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,429 and we're going to call Metro and be, like, 706 00:43:18,512 --> 00:43:22,141 "Hey, these fucking commies are over here obstructing traffic. 707 00:43:22,224 --> 00:43:25,477 And we're like not anywhere near protesting or anything 708 00:43:25,561 --> 00:43:27,688 and we're just in the vehicle and we just want to go home, 709 00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:30,566 come deal with these fucking degenerates." 710 00:43:31,358 --> 00:43:32,651 That's that plan. 711 00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:35,112 Why do we hate? 712 00:43:37,323 --> 00:43:38,824 Well, because, uh... 713 00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:44,204 We want things for ourselves that other people seem to have. 714 00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:48,000 Or, you know, another big piece of it is, 715 00:43:48,083 --> 00:43:51,712 "I feel guilty about a certain way I am as a person 716 00:43:51,795 --> 00:43:54,506 and I wind up needing to blame someone else." 717 00:43:54,590 --> 00:43:56,133 Right? To externalize that. 718 00:43:57,301 --> 00:44:00,471 Eric Hoffer is an academic who wrote a very important book. 719 00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:03,849 The fundamental idea of Hoffer is that true believer, 720 00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:07,144 the person who becomes a fanatic, whether on the right or the left, 721 00:44:07,227 --> 00:44:12,024 uh, is the person who feels that his or her own life is so meaningless 722 00:44:12,107 --> 00:44:13,734 that it has no weight in the universe. 723 00:44:13,817 --> 00:44:16,487 They're embarrassed about themselves, they feel guilty 724 00:44:16,570 --> 00:44:19,365 about how small and worthless and meaningless their lives are, 725 00:44:19,448 --> 00:44:22,743 and the only way they can feel themselves bigger 726 00:44:22,826 --> 00:44:26,705 or to have a place in the world is to attach themselves sort of fanatically 727 00:44:26,789 --> 00:44:29,083 uh, to a certain kind of extreme idea. 728 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,003 Antifascista! 729 00:44:33,087 --> 00:44:36,548 A... Anti... Antifascista! 730 00:44:36,632 --> 00:44:40,302 A... Anti... Antifascista! 731 00:44:40,386 --> 00:44:44,056 A... Anti... Antifascista! 732 00:44:44,139 --> 00:44:47,142 A... Anti... Antifascista! 733 00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:52,147 My name is Milo Yiannopoulos 734 00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:55,275 and I'm the gay technology editor of Breitbart News. 735 00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:57,820 I was due this evening to speak at UC Berkeley 736 00:44:57,903 --> 00:44:59,488 about cultural appropriation. 737 00:44:59,571 --> 00:45:00,739 Here we go. 738 00:45:01,573 --> 00:45:03,200 Someone has moved in closer. 739 00:45:03,283 --> 00:45:04,743 Somebody's taking a selfie. 740 00:45:04,827 --> 00:45:08,372 When Milo Yiannopoulos was at Berkeley a few weeks ago, 741 00:45:08,455 --> 00:45:10,124 Antifa blew the place up. 742 00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:12,751 It turns out that the progressive left, 743 00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:14,253 the social justice left, 744 00:45:14,336 --> 00:45:17,214 the feminist, Black Lives Matter, Antifa left, the hard left, 745 00:45:17,297 --> 00:45:20,843 which has become so utterly antithetical to free speech-- 746 00:45:20,926 --> 00:45:24,179 Fuck you! How fucking dare you call me white supremacist? 747 00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:28,016 Most of the activists of the alternative right 748 00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,603 are making a real effort to kind of invade American campuses 749 00:45:31,687 --> 00:45:33,355 and they've been very successful 750 00:45:33,439 --> 00:45:35,983 at creating a situation where they pose, 751 00:45:36,066 --> 00:45:38,986 they present themselves as the defenders of free speech. 752 00:45:39,069 --> 00:45:43,991 And it is the evil forces of left-wing, "cultural Marxism," 753 00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:46,952 that are attacking them on campus and other speaking venues 754 00:45:47,035 --> 00:45:48,954 and not allowing them to speak. 755 00:45:50,622 --> 00:45:52,416 We don't want no fascists here! 756 00:45:52,499 --> 00:45:54,460 When you shut down the conversation, 757 00:45:54,543 --> 00:45:58,589 lies can thrive and make babies and start entire communities. 758 00:46:03,051 --> 00:46:05,721 These kids wouldn't stop yelling, "Whose campus? Our campus." 759 00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:09,391 So I go, "Come up here, talk to me. Let you say your side." 760 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:11,602 The closer I got to him, the more he went, "Uh-uh." 761 00:46:11,685 --> 00:46:13,437 And he'd go, "Whose campus--" 762 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,272 There's no substance to this beef, 763 00:46:15,355 --> 00:46:17,065 it's just beef for beef's sake, it's fashion. 764 00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:21,778 I mean it's kind of a catch-22 because free speech and all. 765 00:46:21,862 --> 00:46:24,239 The First Amendment is a great thing, but, you know, 766 00:46:24,323 --> 00:46:30,078 people are inciting genocide and nationalistic xenophobic tendencies. 767 00:46:30,162 --> 00:46:32,498 I mean, we are going down a rabbit hole. 768 00:46:32,581 --> 00:46:35,000 It sounds a lot like 1930s Germany right now. 769 00:46:36,168 --> 00:46:37,127 First Amendment 770 00:46:37,211 --> 00:46:40,172 is an incredibly strong protector of speech in this country. 771 00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:43,133 Literally, there's no country in the world 772 00:46:43,217 --> 00:46:46,094 that has such strong speech protections as this country. 773 00:46:46,178 --> 00:46:49,473 So, the truth is that, under the First Amendment, 774 00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:53,477 uh, a neo-Nazi could stand in Radio City Music Hall 775 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,648 and tell 20,000 people, "We need to kill the Jews 776 00:46:57,731 --> 00:46:59,107 and we need to kill them now." 777 00:46:59,191 --> 00:47:04,488 That is considered, by the courts, to be simply advocacy of a position. 778 00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:06,782 I'm just sitting in a hotel room stunned 779 00:47:06,865 --> 00:47:10,160 that hundreds of people were throwing rocks 780 00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:12,329 because they're so threatened by the idea 781 00:47:12,412 --> 00:47:15,541 that a conservative speaker might be persuasive and interesting and funny 782 00:47:15,624 --> 00:47:18,043 and might, you know, might take some people with him. 783 00:47:18,126 --> 00:47:20,337 Um, they just have to shut it down at all costs. 784 00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:23,173 America, of all places, now 785 00:47:23,257 --> 00:47:26,927 is a scene of political violence in response to ideas. 786 00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:28,011 It's very shocking. 787 00:47:35,352 --> 00:47:38,981 This is my Patreon account. 788 00:47:39,064 --> 00:47:42,192 Like, I work full-time and go to school at night, 789 00:47:42,276 --> 00:47:44,695 so I don't really have a lot of time to do this in the first place. 790 00:47:44,778 --> 00:47:47,739 So I figured, like, it would be interesting 791 00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:49,908 to see if any of the fans of the stuff that I do 792 00:47:49,992 --> 00:47:54,204 were willing to, like, support that through monetary donations. 793 00:47:54,288 --> 00:47:59,126 I received some kind of e-mail notice telling me that my page had been removed. 794 00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:02,379 They said that there's no room on Patreon for hate speech, 795 00:48:02,462 --> 00:48:06,174 no matter the purpose or apparent intention of the Patreon page. 796 00:48:06,258 --> 00:48:09,052 This includes actions that take place on other site. 797 00:48:09,136 --> 00:48:12,097 What do you consider to be a hate speech? 798 00:48:12,180 --> 00:48:15,475 I think hate speech is entirely a social construct 799 00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:19,104 to get sucked into that debate, in the first place, is to lose it. 800 00:48:19,187 --> 00:48:24,484 And I think that that term is weaponized from its very moment of creation. 801 00:48:24,568 --> 00:48:26,570 I think there's no such thing as hate speech. 802 00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:28,322 How would you define hate speech? 803 00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:31,575 If I got up and said, "I hate Puerto Ricans" 804 00:48:31,658 --> 00:48:35,746 or "I hate my neighbor," I mean, should that be illegal? 805 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:38,373 Why is it illegal to hate someone? 806 00:48:38,457 --> 00:48:40,500 There is no limits to free speech. 807 00:48:41,126 --> 00:48:44,254 This is something young people have a lot of trouble understanding. 808 00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:46,715 They go, "Free speech doesn't include hate speech." 809 00:48:46,798 --> 00:48:48,759 And you go, "What does it include then? 810 00:48:48,842 --> 00:48:50,844 The Rolling Stones are better than the Beatles? 811 00:48:50,927 --> 00:48:52,346 What is free speech?" 812 00:48:52,429 --> 00:48:54,473 There is no situation in America 813 00:48:54,556 --> 00:48:58,185 where words come out of your mouth and you belong in prison. None. 814 00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,730 Hate speech is protected under the First Amendment, 815 00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:05,150 but that doesn't mean it's protected by ethics. 816 00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:08,236 It just simply means that they don't go to jail for it. 817 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,909 But, if what you say does cause some sort of harm, 818 00:49:13,992 --> 00:49:16,244 people are going to have to respond. 819 00:49:16,328 --> 00:49:19,831 Those who say it's just expression, 820 00:49:19,915 --> 00:49:22,209 it's just speech, it doesn't actually mean anything, 821 00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:24,086 what we see frequently 822 00:49:24,169 --> 00:49:30,008 is that these ideas become ingrain within people's consciousness 823 00:49:30,092 --> 00:49:33,345 and then they get translated into real physical violence. 824 00:49:38,308 --> 00:49:40,477 So, this is in our possession right now. 825 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,731 It's the Keystone State, "skinheads, from back in 2003." 826 00:49:45,107 --> 00:49:47,317 But what made this video so significant 827 00:49:47,401 --> 00:49:51,988 is that there's a band on this video called Youngland. 828 00:49:52,864 --> 00:49:57,661 The guy that's playing bass for Youngland, his name is Wade Page. 829 00:49:57,744 --> 00:50:00,914 Wade Page, about a decade or so later, 830 00:50:00,997 --> 00:50:03,083 walked into a... 831 00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:07,254 Sikh temple, just aside Green Bay, 832 00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:10,716 I think it's in Oak Park, Wisconsin, 833 00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:17,347 and, um, shot and killed a number of parishioners at this temple. 834 00:50:18,098 --> 00:50:22,436 It was the largest mass murder at a place of worship 835 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,731 uh, in about 50 years on American soil. 836 00:50:25,814 --> 00:50:31,153 This came in the middle of a lot of anti-Muslim rhetoric in this country, 837 00:50:31,236 --> 00:50:35,115 coming both from officials and anti-Muslim hate groups and so on. 838 00:50:35,198 --> 00:50:37,242 And Page probably felt 839 00:50:37,325 --> 00:50:40,162 that, somehow, this is something that people would approve of 840 00:50:40,245 --> 00:50:41,538 or at least some people would approve of. 841 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,167 Sikhs are often seen as Muslims. 842 00:50:45,250 --> 00:50:50,130 The way that I've been treated and even just perceived in this country 843 00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:53,842 has changed for the worse over the last year. 844 00:50:53,925 --> 00:50:56,845 OK, so, I'm looking at a website called the Vanguard News Network. 845 00:50:56,928 --> 00:50:58,513 It's one of the most popular ones 846 00:50:58,597 --> 00:51:02,267 and its administrator, Alex Linder, had written a reaction 847 00:51:02,350 --> 00:51:05,187 that became very widely shared among white supremacist 848 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:07,689 immediately after the Wisconsin shooting. 849 00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:10,358 He says, "Take your dead and go back to India 850 00:51:10,442 --> 00:51:13,445 and dump their ashes in the Ganges, Sikhs. 851 00:51:13,528 --> 00:51:16,698 You don't belong here in the country my ancestors fought to found 852 00:51:16,782 --> 00:51:19,284 and deeded to me and mine, their posterity. 853 00:51:19,826 --> 00:51:21,244 Even if you come here legally 854 00:51:21,328 --> 00:51:23,288 and even if you haven't done anything wrong personally, 855 00:51:23,371 --> 00:51:24,372 go home, Sikhs. 856 00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:26,541 Go home to India, where you belong. 857 00:51:26,625 --> 00:51:29,252 This is not your country. It belongs to white men." 858 00:51:31,087 --> 00:51:36,510 Now, if you have a xenophobic, misogynistic, 859 00:51:36,593 --> 00:51:39,638 anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rhetoric, 860 00:51:39,721 --> 00:51:44,476 then you will certainly see rises in hate incidents 861 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,313 because people then feel emboldened, right? If people are now saying-- 862 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,067 If our leaders are saying that these people are second-class citizens, 863 00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:56,196 then Americans will start treating them like second-class citizens. 864 00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:59,533 A jury wasting little time to convict Dylann Roof 865 00:51:59,616 --> 00:52:02,494 for the massacre inside a historic black church in South Carolina. 866 00:52:02,577 --> 00:52:07,082 The self-radicalized white supremacist stood trial in a federal court 867 00:52:07,165 --> 00:52:09,167 for gunning down nine black parishioners. 868 00:52:09,251 --> 00:52:12,003 Dylann Roof, the author of the Charleston massacre, 869 00:52:12,087 --> 00:52:13,755 is a classic example 870 00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:17,717 of a guy who came into the movement, was radicalized 871 00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:19,886 and ultimately committed mass murder 872 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:24,307 based solely, 100 %, on what he read on the Internet. 873 00:52:24,391 --> 00:52:26,977 Right before he started to kill people, he said, you know, 874 00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:30,438 "You people are raping our women and taking over." 875 00:52:30,522 --> 00:52:33,483 Well, you know, that is the precise narrative 876 00:52:33,567 --> 00:52:37,988 of the Council of Conservative Citizens and the larger radical right. 877 00:52:38,071 --> 00:52:39,614 So, you know, it's a remarkable case 878 00:52:39,698 --> 00:52:42,784 because Roof really had no interaction with anybody. 879 00:52:42,868 --> 00:52:44,536 It was just information on the Internet. 880 00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:45,954 And we're seeing more and more of that, 881 00:52:46,037 --> 00:52:50,542 where people are radicalized simply by what they're reading on the Internet. 882 00:52:51,751 --> 00:52:53,461 Some of the things he claimed to care about 883 00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:55,630 you know, Southern heritage or something like that, 884 00:52:55,714 --> 00:52:58,174 he was radically counterproductive. 885 00:52:58,258 --> 00:53:00,802 I mean, the Dylann Roof incident 886 00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:06,224 directly led to the removal of the Confederate flag from public places, 887 00:53:06,308 --> 00:53:09,769 from the Confederate flag becoming much more taboo. 888 00:53:09,853 --> 00:53:13,982 It's just a very sad case. And I'm sure it won't be the last. 889 00:53:14,065 --> 00:53:16,443 I mean, I'm sure there will be other cases 890 00:53:16,526 --> 00:53:21,656 of someone like this who latches on to an alt-right idea, 891 00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:27,245 that might be true in itself, but then he engages in an appalling act. 892 00:53:27,954 --> 00:53:29,873 Are you concerned about 893 00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:32,918 the idea of domestic terrorists in the future 894 00:53:33,001 --> 00:53:36,463 being linked to some of your writing, some of your-- 895 00:53:36,546 --> 00:53:38,256 If something like that happens, 896 00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:42,844 I'm just going to get out in front of it and just be like, "Look, yeah. 897 00:53:43,345 --> 00:53:48,391 This guy mentioned he read a blog of mine or a blog of someone in the alt-right. 898 00:53:48,475 --> 00:53:51,770 What does that mean?" You know. I mean, there are people who-- 899 00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:53,146 What does it mean? 900 00:53:53,229 --> 00:53:55,190 I think it means something in a sense 901 00:53:55,273 --> 00:53:58,568 that the alt-right is getting at that fissure, you know. 902 00:53:58,652 --> 00:54:03,490 It's getting at those really taboo issues, it's getting at that real-- 903 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:08,703 at the most difficult aspects of society. 904 00:54:08,787 --> 00:54:14,751 And so that might attract people who are ill in some way. 905 00:54:15,293 --> 00:54:20,382 So, it means that, but it doesn't mean anything other than that. 906 00:54:20,465 --> 00:54:24,052 I mean, it's just not... It's not relevant. 907 00:54:26,221 --> 00:54:31,309 I feel very strongly that we should not ban sites and discourse like this. 908 00:54:31,393 --> 00:54:33,770 Right? This is free speech, there is no imminent threat. 909 00:54:33,853 --> 00:54:36,231 So, it's protected. I think that's important. 910 00:54:36,314 --> 00:54:39,901 But what I think is also important is that we need to be aware 911 00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:45,448 of what people like Alex Linder and other white supremacist leaders are saying 912 00:54:45,532 --> 00:54:49,744 because that has a direct bearing on how we can respond to them. 913 00:54:49,869 --> 00:54:52,288 If we don't even know what their arguments are, 914 00:54:52,372 --> 00:54:53,665 how are we going to address them? 915 00:55:01,339 --> 00:55:03,049 At what point did you decide, 916 00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:06,720 "I'm going to go after these hate groups, document their activities?" 917 00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:09,055 I'm from the punk scene. 918 00:55:09,139 --> 00:55:12,475 This is really where my passions really are, 919 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:16,438 music and everything around it, especially the underground music scene. 920 00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:18,189 This is Boston. 921 00:55:18,273 --> 00:55:19,691 I'm Daryle Lamont Jenkins 922 00:55:19,774 --> 00:55:21,568 and the show you're watching is Channel X. 923 00:55:21,651 --> 00:55:26,322 Back in 2000, I was doing a series of public-access TV shows. 924 00:55:26,906 --> 00:55:28,616 We're going to go on with this first band. 925 00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:31,119 This band I had on the last Channel X show. 926 00:55:34,414 --> 00:55:37,792 I was working on one that never came to fruition. 927 00:55:37,876 --> 00:55:39,919 I was calling it Damn the Conformist. 928 00:55:40,003 --> 00:55:43,840 And I went out to an American Renaissance Conference 929 00:55:43,923 --> 00:55:46,885 and I had a crew with me that went around to this conference. 930 00:55:46,968 --> 00:55:51,389 This was on April 1, 2000, and it was at the Sheraton in Reston, Virginia. 931 00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:53,433 So, what are you doing here? Do you hate black people? 932 00:55:53,516 --> 00:55:56,352 I hate black people, all of them. They all suck. 933 00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:00,440 Me and my people just went around 934 00:56:00,523 --> 00:56:02,859 and videotaped everybody that we saw there. 935 00:56:02,942 --> 00:56:06,905 And I had to pretend I was the right because I was the only black dude there. 936 00:56:06,988 --> 00:56:10,200 No one really knew what American Renaissance was at the time 937 00:56:10,283 --> 00:56:12,494 and pretty much scared the living daylights out of me 938 00:56:12,577 --> 00:56:14,788 when I started realizing who some of these folks were. 939 00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:16,581 Maybe you could explain 940 00:56:16,664 --> 00:56:19,334 your interest in the American Renaissance movement for us a little bit. 941 00:56:19,417 --> 00:56:20,543 Sure. 942 00:56:20,627 --> 00:56:23,880 I became interested in right-wing politics in the early '90s 943 00:56:23,963 --> 00:56:27,050 because I could see the way multiculturalism was going, 944 00:56:27,133 --> 00:56:30,178 I could see the way immigration and affirmative action were going. 945 00:56:30,261 --> 00:56:32,263 You know, it just seemed that none of the parties 946 00:56:32,347 --> 00:56:36,017 were willing to talk about things in which whites are adversely affected. 947 00:56:36,101 --> 00:56:38,394 But every time a non-white is adversely affected, 948 00:56:38,478 --> 00:56:39,938 it becomes national news. 949 00:56:40,021 --> 00:56:43,441 It was the first time I had gotten a chance 950 00:56:43,525 --> 00:56:47,237 to be just basically up-close and personal with neo-Nazi. 951 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,074 Forced racial integration leads to disharmony 952 00:56:51,157 --> 00:56:53,118 and I think that's been consistent all over the world. 953 00:56:53,201 --> 00:56:55,203 And it basically just got the ball rolling 954 00:56:55,286 --> 00:56:57,539 to what eventually became One People's Project. 955 00:56:57,622 --> 00:56:58,748 How do you square this 956 00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:02,377 with the fact that America is essentially a nation of immigrants? 957 00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:04,295 Well, first of all, that's not true. 958 00:57:04,379 --> 00:57:07,715 There's no such thing as a nation of immigrants. 959 00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:11,469 We were an extension of England, which is why we have English language, 960 00:57:11,553 --> 00:57:14,639 British political and social institutions. 961 00:57:14,722 --> 00:57:18,309 The media in this country controls political opinion in this country. 962 00:57:18,393 --> 00:57:21,438 And the majority of people who own the media in this country are Jewish, 963 00:57:21,521 --> 00:57:22,772 yeah, people like Michael Eisner. 964 00:57:22,856 --> 00:57:24,482 So, would you say there's a Zionist conspiracy 965 00:57:24,566 --> 00:57:25,900 in American major media? 966 00:57:25,984 --> 00:57:27,235 I hate the word "conspiracy" 967 00:57:27,318 --> 00:57:29,070 because it starts sounding like you're a crackpot. 968 00:57:29,154 --> 00:57:30,905 We're talking about UFOs now, you know. 969 00:57:30,989 --> 00:57:34,659 But is there a Jewish influence in the media? I think anybody-- 970 00:57:34,742 --> 00:57:35,994 An overpowering Jews influence. 971 00:57:36,077 --> 00:57:37,579 Overpowering Jewish influence in the media, yes. 972 00:57:37,662 --> 00:57:40,290 And I think they use it shamelessly for their own agenda. 973 00:57:40,373 --> 00:57:44,335 Races will be happier, more adjusted, and harmonious 974 00:57:44,419 --> 00:57:47,755 when they're pretty much associated with their own kind, OK? 975 00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:48,882 I'll give you an example. 976 00:57:48,965 --> 00:57:50,967 Whenever David Duke starts getting popular, 977 00:57:51,050 --> 00:57:54,637 there is an endless stream of Holocaust movies all week. Right? 978 00:57:54,721 --> 00:57:56,473 Then there's an endless stream of Klan movies. 979 00:57:56,556 --> 00:57:57,974 And then they have the History Channel 980 00:57:58,057 --> 00:58:00,602 showing the history of the Klan over and over again 981 00:58:00,685 --> 00:58:03,480 even though Mr. Duke was in the Klan 30 years ago. 982 00:58:03,563 --> 00:58:06,774 No one in his group was ever involved in any illegal activities. 983 00:58:06,858 --> 00:58:07,901 He was a young man 984 00:58:07,984 --> 00:58:10,987 looking to be able to find some way to stand up for his European heritage. 985 00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:13,490 At the time, there was only one group, the Klan. 986 00:58:14,991 --> 00:58:17,911 I'm heading down to Richmond, Virginia, 987 00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:21,331 and there's been a call for a blackout 988 00:58:21,414 --> 00:58:24,918 or a black boycott of a shopping center 989 00:58:25,001 --> 00:58:28,338 because the county has dared to recognize Confederate History Month. 990 00:58:28,421 --> 00:58:32,467 And I say, if it's OK to represent or recognize Black History Month, 991 00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:34,552 why not represent and recognize 992 00:58:34,636 --> 00:58:37,305 the heritage of Virginia and the heritage of the South? 993 00:58:37,388 --> 00:58:41,392 I think we're heading towards a major catastrophe in this country. 994 00:59:10,797 --> 00:59:14,384 So, normally, I fly down or I take the bus. 995 00:59:14,467 --> 00:59:17,845 This is pretty much my fourth time coming down here for this. 996 00:59:17,929 --> 00:59:19,430 Hopefully, it'll be the last. 997 00:59:19,514 --> 00:59:24,060 I don't know if Taylor wants to do this again in this town, 998 00:59:24,143 --> 00:59:27,063 especially now, there's some serious opposition 999 00:59:27,146 --> 00:59:29,774 that we may be seeing against this conference. 1000 00:59:29,857 --> 00:59:32,694 I mean, got a lot of media attention this time around, 1001 00:59:32,777 --> 00:59:34,195 which it never did before. 1002 00:59:34,279 --> 00:59:36,364 It's called the American Renaissance Conference, 1003 00:59:36,447 --> 00:59:38,491 and, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, 1004 00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:41,828 it's an extremist group that promotes the studies and research 1005 00:59:41,911 --> 00:59:44,706 to show the inferiority of blacks to whites. 1006 00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:48,835 So the heat's on American Renaissance this time. The heat's on Jared Taylor. 1007 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,306 From 1994 until 2008, 1008 01:00:01,389 --> 01:00:04,892 we had conferences every other year just in private hotels. 1009 01:00:04,976 --> 01:00:06,894 We really never had much of a problem. 1010 01:00:06,978 --> 01:00:10,773 In 2010, the hotels that we contracted with, 1011 01:00:10,857 --> 01:00:13,568 and there were four, back to back. 1012 01:00:13,651 --> 01:00:16,821 Every one of them got so much pressure they canceled on us. 1013 01:00:16,904 --> 01:00:19,365 And so, we weren't able to have a conference. 1014 01:00:19,449 --> 01:00:23,036 And then, the next year, we had the same thing happen again. 1015 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,496 People threatening to block their parking lot, 1016 01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:28,333 people coming on the premises and leafleting their places saying, 1017 01:00:28,416 --> 01:00:31,961 "These people support Nazis," all kinds of baloney. 1018 01:00:32,045 --> 01:00:36,215 So, now we meet only in government-owned facilities. 1019 01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,676 It's supposed to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. 1020 01:00:40,094 --> 01:00:42,138 This was a government-owned facility, 1021 01:00:42,221 --> 01:00:45,642 a publicly owned facility that could not shut their doors to them 1022 01:00:45,725 --> 01:00:47,268 once the contracts are signed, 1023 01:00:47,352 --> 01:00:51,939 which means not only can they not throw them out, 1024 01:00:52,023 --> 01:00:53,816 but they also can't throw anybody 1025 01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:56,152 in the general public out, and that includes us. 1026 01:00:56,235 --> 01:00:58,905 The state of Tennessee has a First Amendment obligation. 1027 01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:00,990 If the state of Tennessee had told us we couldn't meet, 1028 01:01:01,074 --> 01:01:03,493 we'd sue them and they'd lose. 1029 01:01:04,911 --> 01:01:09,040 The fact is that Jared Taylor, year after year after year, 1030 01:01:09,123 --> 01:01:12,877 while saying that he has nothing personal against the Jews, 1031 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,882 has made his conferences a welcome home for Nazis. 1032 01:01:25,431 --> 01:01:28,851 As you can see, we actually slept last night 1033 01:01:28,935 --> 01:01:30,186 in a church. 1034 01:01:30,269 --> 01:01:32,772 Thank goodness for this church that put us up last night. 1035 01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:36,901 Some people slept in here, in the sanctuary. 1036 01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:41,322 I saw it on Facebook that they were protesting 1037 01:01:41,406 --> 01:01:44,117 and they were looking for accommodations locally. 1038 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,246 And I called our priest and said, "Do you mind? That this would be-- 1039 01:01:48,329 --> 01:01:49,914 You know, it's part of our mission, 1040 01:01:49,997 --> 01:01:54,711 from a standpoint of community and love and acceptance and anti-hate," 1041 01:01:54,794 --> 01:01:56,921 and so, we opened up the church. 1042 01:01:57,004 --> 01:01:58,423 Have you done this in the past? 1043 01:01:58,506 --> 01:02:01,801 No. I think it's a reflection of the political climate, 1044 01:02:01,884 --> 01:02:04,137 where I think we all have to do what we can. 1045 01:02:06,681 --> 01:02:08,933 If you need other antifascist voices 1046 01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,686 in general, I want to connect y'all, so he can also speak. 1047 01:02:11,769 --> 01:02:15,606 Public doxxed antifascist, you know, and anarchist. 1048 01:02:15,690 --> 01:02:18,359 Well, this is all self-made. 1049 01:02:18,443 --> 01:02:23,781 This is-- I basically got handed this and then I got this thing strapped over here 1050 01:02:23,865 --> 01:02:25,074 just in case, you know. 1051 01:02:25,158 --> 01:02:26,826 I'm not trying to start anything by any means, 1052 01:02:26,909 --> 01:02:29,620 but there've been many organizers and many activists 1053 01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:31,873 who've been, uh, attacked. 1054 01:02:37,336 --> 01:02:40,381 I saw this black African gentleman, 1055 01:02:40,465 --> 01:02:43,217 I assumed he was on the crew and he refused to shake my hand. 1056 01:02:43,301 --> 01:02:46,637 And they surprised me that I was actually going to be talking to this African. 1057 01:02:46,721 --> 01:02:49,807 Look at the average life of an African-American in the U.S. 1058 01:02:49,891 --> 01:02:52,560 It's far better than any African living in Africa. 1059 01:02:52,643 --> 01:02:54,145 So, slavery was good for them? 1060 01:02:54,228 --> 01:02:56,689 I-- How can you deny such an obvious fact? 1061 01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,609 - It's such a ridiculous notion. - How is it ridiculous? 1062 01:02:59,692 --> 01:03:02,695 We are just outside of Nashville, Tennessee, 1063 01:03:02,779 --> 01:03:05,281 at the Montgomery Bell State Park. 1064 01:03:05,364 --> 01:03:06,783 I'm a guest to the conference this year, 1065 01:03:06,866 --> 01:03:11,245 although I will be saying a few words just as an update on what I'm doing. 1066 01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:15,374 But, otherwise, I'm just here to listen to some talks and mingle. 1067 01:03:28,721 --> 01:03:31,766 This is the first time we actually had to shut down registration 1068 01:03:31,849 --> 01:03:33,893 a month before the conference. 1069 01:03:33,976 --> 01:03:35,394 We have about 300 people here. 1070 01:03:35,478 --> 01:03:37,396 I think it would have been 400 or 450 1071 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,359 if we had not bumped up against the physical constraints of the room. 1072 01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,528 I've been curious to know 1073 01:03:43,611 --> 01:03:47,865 how many of you have come to your first American Renaissance Conference. 1074 01:03:48,616 --> 01:03:49,992 Wow. 1075 01:03:54,622 --> 01:03:57,959 I got a hold of Richard Spencer's phone number 1076 01:03:58,042 --> 01:04:00,002 and I put it on Facebook. 1077 01:04:00,086 --> 01:04:05,466 And, after that, I got a call from some Nazi alt-right. There were several. 1078 01:04:05,550 --> 01:04:08,511 It was a conference call and they called me 1079 01:04:08,594 --> 01:04:13,474 and they started putting me on different alt-right message forums and boards. 1080 01:04:18,521 --> 01:04:21,065 - That's Hotel Avenue, I think. - Yeah. 1081 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:26,696 Yeah, this is it. Where are we? 1082 01:04:26,779 --> 01:04:28,239 Oh, that's where we are. 1083 01:04:33,452 --> 01:04:37,373 - Hello, sir. NAACP? - Yeah. 1084 01:04:37,456 --> 01:04:39,500 I'm Daryle Lamont Jenkins. I'm with One People's Project. 1085 01:04:39,584 --> 01:04:42,211 In the last, I would say two or three years, 1086 01:04:42,295 --> 01:04:44,213 there's been, in historical terms, 1087 01:04:44,297 --> 01:04:48,926 an absolute explosion of white racial consciousness, 1088 01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:54,056 a rising determination of whites to defend their own interests. 1089 01:04:54,932 --> 01:04:58,436 We have a chance, a fighting chance. 1090 01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:00,187 Testing, testing. 1091 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:03,816 Testing. 1092 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:06,402 We will be protesting in favor of equality. 1093 01:05:06,485 --> 01:05:07,653 Yes! 1094 01:05:07,737 --> 01:05:09,280 In favor of diversity! 1095 01:05:10,781 --> 01:05:13,618 ...the view that all cultures are equally valid, 1096 01:05:13,701 --> 01:05:15,786 all religions equally true, 1097 01:05:15,870 --> 01:05:19,123 and what is at the heart of this fallacy, 1098 01:05:19,206 --> 01:05:23,461 that all races are interchangeable and equivalent. 1099 01:05:24,462 --> 01:05:28,799 The other tectonic plate moving in the opposite direction, that's us, 1100 01:05:29,342 --> 01:05:31,260 we are growing in size. 1101 01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:34,722 And you know what happens when tectonic plates meet? 1102 01:05:35,514 --> 01:05:36,682 Earthquakes. 1103 01:05:37,558 --> 01:05:39,143 We had a tremor, 1104 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,396 I would call it a reasonably significant tremor, 1105 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,856 in the election of Donald Trump. 1106 01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:46,734 But that is just a sign of things to come. 1107 01:05:55,826 --> 01:05:58,454 And how did the other side react? 1108 01:05:58,537 --> 01:06:00,373 Yeah! 1109 01:06:00,456 --> 01:06:01,666 - Yeah! - Yeah! 1110 01:06:01,749 --> 01:06:02,708 Yeah! 1111 01:06:02,792 --> 01:06:04,502 I want to hear a word from y'all! 1112 01:06:04,585 --> 01:06:06,379 - Now! - Now! 1113 01:06:06,462 --> 01:06:07,922 - Now! - Now! 1114 01:06:08,005 --> 01:06:10,508 - Now is the time! - Now is the time! 1115 01:06:10,591 --> 01:06:12,176 - Now is the time! - Now is the time! 1116 01:06:12,259 --> 01:06:13,886 Now is the time to take action! 1117 01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:15,846 Now is the time to take action! 1118 01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:18,015 Oh, no, no, no. 1119 01:06:18,099 --> 01:06:20,559 I know that was a lot of words, but I wanna hear that. 1120 01:06:20,643 --> 01:06:23,312 Now is the time... 1121 01:06:23,396 --> 01:06:25,731 Now is the time... 1122 01:06:25,815 --> 01:06:28,275 ...to take action! 1123 01:06:28,359 --> 01:06:30,778 ...to take action! 1124 01:06:30,861 --> 01:06:33,030 Now is the time... 1125 01:06:33,114 --> 01:06:35,282 Now is the time... 1126 01:06:35,366 --> 01:06:37,827 - ...for them... - ...for them... 1127 01:06:37,910 --> 01:06:40,162 - ...to hear... - ...to hear... 1128 01:06:40,246 --> 01:06:42,373 - ...from us! - ...from us! 1129 01:06:42,456 --> 01:06:45,751 - This is not their town! - This is not their town! 1130 01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:48,796 - This is not their park! - This is not their park! 1131 01:06:48,879 --> 01:06:52,133 - This is not their state! - This is not their state! 1132 01:06:52,216 --> 01:06:56,012 - This is not their society! - This is not their society! 1133 01:06:56,095 --> 01:07:00,182 - This is not their decision! - This is not their decision! 1134 01:07:00,266 --> 01:07:02,101 Let me hear you all yell it out, y'all. 1135 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,439 No racist USA! 1136 01:07:06,522 --> 01:07:08,566 No Klan, no hate! 1137 01:07:08,649 --> 01:07:10,693 No racist USA! 1138 01:07:10,776 --> 01:07:12,737 No Klan, no hate! 1139 01:07:12,820 --> 01:07:14,739 No racist USA! 1140 01:07:14,822 --> 01:07:18,659 No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA! 1141 01:07:18,743 --> 01:07:22,747 No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA! 1142 01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,458 No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA! 1143 01:07:25,541 --> 01:07:28,878 We do expect the demonstrators to be very close. 1144 01:07:28,961 --> 01:07:34,008 We have been more than urged by the Tennessee state police here 1145 01:07:34,091 --> 01:07:36,552 who are protecting us, the park police, 1146 01:07:36,635 --> 01:07:39,513 very much discourage any kind of interaction 1147 01:07:39,597 --> 01:07:40,681 with the demonstrators. 1148 01:07:40,765 --> 01:07:44,435 I know that we all have a curiosity about these people. 1149 01:07:44,518 --> 01:07:47,104 One might want to just go up and even just have a sniff. 1150 01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:48,606 But... 1151 01:07:50,608 --> 01:07:53,819 Please, control those impulses. 1152 01:07:53,903 --> 01:07:57,406 If there is any kind of fisticuffs 1153 01:07:57,490 --> 01:08:01,702 or even a loud argument, you know that we will be blamed. 1154 01:08:01,786 --> 01:08:07,458 If we will be blamed, I will be blamed, and I know where every one of you lives. 1155 01:08:08,542 --> 01:08:10,669 KKK has got to go! 1156 01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:14,924 - Hey hey, ho ho. - KKK has got to go! 1157 01:08:15,007 --> 01:08:18,177 - Hey hey, ho ho. - KKK has got to go! 1158 01:08:18,260 --> 01:08:20,596 Yay, everybody, you all can see the zoo animals. 1159 01:08:21,347 --> 01:08:25,101 Hey hey, ho ho, KKK has got to go! 1160 01:08:25,184 --> 01:08:28,646 Nobody cares about that racist white supremacist shit. 1161 01:08:28,729 --> 01:08:29,939 Nobody gives a fuck. 1162 01:08:30,022 --> 01:08:32,566 I think, in a lot of ways, 1163 01:08:32,650 --> 01:08:35,486 one of the worst things that happened to our country 1164 01:08:35,569 --> 01:08:37,780 is actually going to be one of the best things 1165 01:08:37,863 --> 01:08:39,198 that has happened to our country. 1166 01:08:39,281 --> 01:08:40,574 Since that day in November, 1167 01:08:40,658 --> 01:08:45,037 I'd never felt like as if I needed to just sit on my couch anymore. So, yeah. 1168 01:08:45,121 --> 01:08:46,580 - Yeah, I think there-- - Here we are. 1169 01:08:46,664 --> 01:08:48,791 I remember seeing a sign just recently 1170 01:08:48,874 --> 01:08:51,544 say that, if Hillary had won, we'd be in brunch right now. 1171 01:08:51,627 --> 01:08:53,337 - Yes. - And it's like, no. 1172 01:08:53,420 --> 01:08:55,965 - That's the problem. - See, that was my problem. 1173 01:08:56,048 --> 01:09:00,010 I was part of the problem. I was part of the problem. 1174 01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:01,846 - It's absolutely true. - You're not now. 1175 01:09:01,929 --> 01:09:02,888 No. 1176 01:09:02,972 --> 01:09:05,099 What does the end game look like for a movement? 1177 01:09:05,182 --> 01:09:07,977 How do we get there and what does it look like when we win? 1178 01:09:08,060 --> 01:09:11,689 I would be prepared to draw a line right down the middle of the U.S. 1179 01:09:11,772 --> 01:09:13,274 and say to all non-whites, 1180 01:09:13,357 --> 01:09:15,943 "Hey, you pick which side you want. Which side do you want? 1181 01:09:16,026 --> 01:09:17,736 We'll just fill in the rest." 1182 01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:22,074 If that's what it takes to keep us from being ground steadily down 1183 01:09:22,158 --> 01:09:26,787 into the increasingly hated minority that is our thing if we do nothing, 1184 01:09:26,871 --> 01:09:30,875 I believe that is the aspiration that we should look for. 1185 01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:38,924 Jared and I have different styles. 1186 01:09:39,008 --> 01:09:42,803 Jared has been more on the side of race realism 1187 01:09:42,887 --> 01:09:44,889 based in scientific reasoning. 1188 01:09:45,264 --> 01:09:48,767 My view is that we're probably going to accomplish a lot more 1189 01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:52,771 by thinking magically and cut right to emotions. 1190 01:09:52,855 --> 01:09:55,941 You know, as the old Chinese proverb goes, 1191 01:09:56,025 --> 01:09:58,444 "May you live in interesting times." 1192 01:09:58,527 --> 01:09:59,987 We are living in them. 1193 01:10:00,070 --> 01:10:03,532 We are living probably in a breaking point. And I love it. 1194 01:10:03,782 --> 01:10:05,659 Um, I'm very happy to be alive 1195 01:10:05,743 --> 01:10:09,163 and I'm very happy to wake up every day and do all this stuff. 1196 01:10:09,246 --> 01:10:14,418 So, on August 12th, in Charlottesville, there's going to be a really amazing rally 1197 01:10:14,501 --> 01:10:17,838 that was organized by someone who's here, Jason Kessler. 1198 01:10:17,922 --> 01:10:20,466 And almost all of the alt-right is going to be there 1199 01:10:20,549 --> 01:10:26,472 and it is going to be hugely dramatic, probably hugely traumatic for them, 1200 01:10:26,555 --> 01:10:28,349 the liberal people of Charlottesville. 1201 01:10:28,432 --> 01:10:29,892 Let's see where they go next. 1202 01:10:29,975 --> 01:10:31,602 - And wherever they go... - Chase them there. 1203 01:10:31,685 --> 01:10:32,895 ...we'll chase them there. 1204 01:10:32,978 --> 01:10:34,271 Yup. There we are. 1205 01:10:34,355 --> 01:10:35,856 - That's our mission in life. - Well, thank you. 1206 01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:38,025 I lived in Charlottesville for about five years. 1207 01:10:38,108 --> 01:10:40,569 I went to college there. I remember the statues quite well. 1208 01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:43,530 It's going to be fun. They will never forget it. 1209 01:10:43,614 --> 01:10:45,574 You can't run over people who aren't white! 1210 01:10:45,658 --> 01:10:46,867 That's not right! 1211 01:10:46,951 --> 01:10:50,037 You can't run us over! No, that's not happening! 1212 01:10:53,499 --> 01:10:55,292 You're not running anyone over. 1213 01:11:00,047 --> 01:11:01,048 Racists! 1214 01:11:02,007 --> 01:11:03,634 Have a nice drive, fucker! 1215 01:11:05,344 --> 01:11:07,429 Oh-oh, did something bad happen? 1216 01:11:10,849 --> 01:11:12,184 - Jim, let's go inside. - I'm sorry. 1217 01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:14,228 We'd better go check and see what happened. 1218 01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:19,066 There is only a few. 1219 01:11:19,149 --> 01:11:20,859 There, somebody is fighting. 1220 01:11:22,820 --> 01:11:25,030 He killed our friends! 1221 01:11:28,826 --> 01:11:32,246 He killed our friends! Come on! Come on! 1222 01:11:36,166 --> 01:11:39,795 John ended up with just a few scrapes and bruises, 1223 01:11:39,878 --> 01:11:45,592 but apparently the guy that attacked him was a little worse off. 1224 01:11:47,594 --> 01:11:50,472 I guess they ended up having to airlift him 1225 01:11:50,556 --> 01:11:54,643 to a hospital in Nashville to further attend to him. 1226 01:11:54,727 --> 01:11:59,356 All they'll say right now is that they are both under arrest. 1227 01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:00,941 But it wasn't his fault though, right? 1228 01:12:01,025 --> 01:12:03,527 - No. He defended himself. - He was defending himself. 1229 01:12:03,610 --> 01:12:06,989 I have an unfortunate announcement to make. 1230 01:12:07,406 --> 01:12:11,160 One of our members has disobeyed me, 1231 01:12:11,827 --> 01:12:15,956 and engaged with the ANTIFA and has now gone to the hospital. 1232 01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:22,546 It is vitally important that this sort of thing not happen. 1233 01:12:23,422 --> 01:12:26,008 The best thing we can do is ignore them. 1234 01:12:26,091 --> 01:12:28,927 What they most want, is to get a rise out of us. 1235 01:12:29,595 --> 01:12:32,681 We're supposed to be a relatively high IQ race. 1236 01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:36,852 We are supposed to be able to set rules and follow them. 1237 01:12:36,935 --> 01:12:39,355 I'm very angry that this happened. 1238 01:12:39,521 --> 01:12:41,231 This will reflect on all of us, 1239 01:12:41,315 --> 01:12:43,692 on American Renaissance, and all of you here. 1240 01:12:44,151 --> 01:12:48,489 And so... I implore you... Do not imitate this knucklehead. 1241 01:12:49,031 --> 01:12:52,868 He got into a fisticuffs with one of four or five of their guys, 1242 01:12:52,951 --> 01:12:54,953 ended up taking an involuntary swim. 1243 01:12:55,412 --> 01:12:58,582 And was lead off in handcuffs and is now in the hospital. 1244 01:12:59,666 --> 01:13:01,919 Don't let this happen again. 1245 01:13:11,387 --> 01:13:13,847 I'm happy with how things turned out. 1246 01:13:13,931 --> 01:13:15,641 We had a remarkable turnout. 1247 01:13:15,724 --> 01:13:18,185 I want to keep the momentum going. 1248 01:13:18,268 --> 01:13:19,895 I want to make sure that everybody is aware 1249 01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:22,564 of the kinds of things that we got to fight out there, 1250 01:13:22,648 --> 01:13:24,149 and actually fight them. 1251 01:13:24,233 --> 01:13:26,402 Will you be returning to that venue again? 1252 01:13:26,485 --> 01:13:30,155 Sure. Yeah. We have a contract. We'll be there last weekend of April. 1253 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:31,573 You've been coming to this-- 1254 01:13:31,657 --> 01:13:34,993 A lot of people are scared. They don't want to be helpless anymore. 1255 01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:37,704 They wanna come out and don't want things to get worse. 1256 01:13:41,542 --> 01:13:42,876 Hi, everyone, this is Richard. 1257 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:48,507 I just got back and I just wanted to give a quick report on the weekend. 1258 01:13:48,590 --> 01:13:52,761 The conference was unequivocally a success. 1259 01:13:52,845 --> 01:13:54,721 Clearly something big is happening. 1260 01:13:54,805 --> 01:13:59,643 And it's not just people who are coming, it is younger people. 1261 01:14:00,269 --> 01:14:03,063 Everyone's getting connected and getting organized. 1262 01:14:03,147 --> 01:14:04,606 They're meeting people at Amber, 1263 01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:06,650 they're gonna see them again in Charlottesville. 1264 01:14:06,733 --> 01:14:09,027 They're going to go to a college event. 1265 01:14:09,111 --> 01:14:11,780 It allows us to build upon events. 1266 01:14:11,864 --> 01:14:14,241 Take them down! Take them down! 1267 01:14:24,835 --> 01:14:29,214 Most of these were open celebrations of white supremacy. 1268 01:14:29,298 --> 01:14:33,635 Just to give an example, in a little town called Colfax, Louisiana, 1269 01:14:34,011 --> 01:14:38,682 there is in fact an obelisk put up in 1920 1270 01:14:39,016 --> 01:14:44,521 which commemorates as brave heroes, the three white men who were killed 1271 01:14:44,605 --> 01:14:48,400 during a white massacre of a 150 black unionists 1272 01:14:49,443 --> 01:14:51,195 after they surrendered. 1273 01:14:51,737 --> 01:14:53,614 I just think it's unbelievable 1274 01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:56,366 that any civilization can put up a monument 1275 01:14:56,450 --> 01:15:01,371 to the three people who died in the mass murder of a 150 people. 1276 01:15:01,455 --> 01:15:04,082 They're celebrated as great heroes of the community. 1277 01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:08,170 There are people all over this country, particularly in the South, 1278 01:15:08,253 --> 01:15:11,465 so-called neo-Confederates, who will not accept 1279 01:15:11,548 --> 01:15:14,259 what it is those monuments really stand for. 1280 01:15:14,343 --> 01:15:16,845 The claim is made repeatedly 1281 01:15:16,929 --> 01:15:19,681 that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. 1282 01:15:19,765 --> 01:15:25,145 And let me say that is patently 100 % false. 1283 01:15:26,355 --> 01:15:29,650 Monuments being torn down is a symbol of white dispossession. 1284 01:15:29,733 --> 01:15:32,903 We talked about this issue of the monuments 1285 01:15:32,986 --> 01:15:36,323 and being torn down in New Orleans and so on. 1286 01:15:36,406 --> 01:15:37,824 This is tyranny! 1287 01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:40,202 What's the reason for anything that we've got in this country 1288 01:15:40,285 --> 01:15:41,787 if you can't stand behind it? 1289 01:15:47,876 --> 01:15:51,088 It's an attack on European history, on white history. 1290 01:15:51,171 --> 01:15:54,591 It's also symbolic of a greater desire to erase us. 1291 01:15:55,008 --> 01:15:58,345 How far should we go in terms of taking down these statues? 1292 01:15:58,428 --> 01:16:01,682 I mean, look, I think when we have monuments 1293 01:16:01,765 --> 01:16:04,977 that expressly celebrate white supremacy, 1294 01:16:05,060 --> 01:16:06,562 I think that can come right down. 1295 01:16:08,438 --> 01:16:12,150 We said we should get on this because this is great symbolism. 1296 01:16:12,234 --> 01:16:14,653 We said, "Oh, let's do something Charlottesville, 1297 01:16:14,736 --> 01:16:18,448 they're moving to take down the Lee and Jackson statues." 1298 01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:21,326 There might be hundreds, thousands of people 1299 01:16:21,410 --> 01:16:22,828 descending on Charlottesville. 1300 01:16:22,911 --> 01:16:24,538 So, it's going to be crazy. 1301 01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:32,045 Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! 1302 01:16:33,755 --> 01:16:39,761 You will not replace us! You will not replace us! 1303 01:16:40,178 --> 01:16:42,306 There is very little police presence. 1304 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,891 There's a group of anti-demonstrators. 1305 01:16:44,975 --> 01:16:49,563 They are completely surrounded inside the group of torchlight demonstrators. 1306 01:16:54,985 --> 01:16:56,778 It looks like we got a fight. 1307 01:16:57,362 --> 01:16:59,281 There's definitely a fight inside. 1308 01:17:17,507 --> 01:17:20,093 Police have not stepped in. 1309 01:17:20,802 --> 01:17:22,804 Can I ask why you guys aren't stepping in? 1310 01:17:24,014 --> 01:17:25,265 Sir, turn this off. 1311 01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:28,101 I'm just wondering why you have not intervened yet. 1312 01:17:28,185 --> 01:17:29,686 What's wrong with you? 1313 01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:33,398 Nothing is wrong with me! Everything is wrong with you! 1314 01:17:55,462 --> 01:17:59,216 A year ago, we weren't doing things like Charlottesville. 1315 01:17:59,299 --> 01:18:01,885 All of that activism was not taking place a year ago 1316 01:18:01,968 --> 01:18:03,387 and it's taking place now. 1317 01:18:10,060 --> 01:18:11,186 Get in. 1318 01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:12,979 Get in. 1319 01:18:17,984 --> 01:18:20,445 The alt-right has developed clearly. 1320 01:18:20,529 --> 01:18:22,114 I mean, I'm very pleased with that. 1321 01:18:24,408 --> 01:18:26,451 As they grow, we grow. 1322 01:18:26,535 --> 01:18:29,037 Does not necessarily mean people dressed in black 1323 01:18:29,121 --> 01:18:31,289 coming to break windows or whatever. 1324 01:18:31,373 --> 01:18:33,291 It also means community people, 1325 01:18:33,375 --> 01:18:34,835 folks going through their day to day 1326 01:18:34,918 --> 01:18:37,170 just simply saying, "Hey, look, we don't want this. 1327 01:18:37,254 --> 01:18:38,880 We can't have this." 1328 01:18:38,964 --> 01:18:42,134 There's always going to be more of us. 1329 01:18:43,719 --> 01:18:47,472 Is this us? Is DFC-- I'm just curious those buses-- 1330 01:18:47,556 --> 01:18:49,224 Yes, those are us. 1331 01:18:49,307 --> 01:18:52,227 - So, they are with us, right? - Yeah. 1332 01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:53,687 I'm actually going to get a little whiskey. 1333 01:18:53,770 --> 01:18:57,482 Yeah, I just want a touch just to get loosened up. 1334 01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:01,361 Get back that all cocky Spencer confidence right. 1335 01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:04,614 - Hail victory. - Hail victory. 1336 01:19:04,698 --> 01:19:05,907 Thanks for coming, guys. 1337 01:19:05,991 --> 01:19:07,701 - Hail victory. - Hail victory. 1338 01:19:07,784 --> 01:19:09,786 Yeah. 1339 01:19:09,870 --> 01:19:11,621 Yeah. 1340 01:19:11,705 --> 01:19:15,542 Hail victory, guys. Hail victory. 1341 01:19:16,460 --> 01:19:18,420 Hey, Max. Good to see you, man. 1342 01:19:18,503 --> 01:19:19,921 Hail victory. Hey, Mike. 1343 01:19:25,802 --> 01:19:27,387 I don't know what's going on with Trump. 1344 01:19:27,471 --> 01:19:30,515 I mean, I don't want to quite hate him. 1345 01:19:30,599 --> 01:19:32,184 Well, we got Jews running us, so what do you expect? 1346 01:19:32,267 --> 01:19:34,019 Right. Right. 1347 01:19:34,102 --> 01:19:36,271 What do you expect with Jews running our country? 1348 01:19:37,898 --> 01:19:41,151 This might very well go off totally peacefully, 1349 01:19:41,234 --> 01:19:43,487 this might become violent. 1350 01:19:43,570 --> 01:19:46,114 I mean, that is certainly within the realm of possibilities. 1351 01:19:46,198 --> 01:19:51,286 Basically, my policy is just absolutely never back down. 1352 01:20:18,563 --> 01:20:20,607 I thought it was disgusting 1353 01:20:20,690 --> 01:20:23,360 that a bunch of American vets with weapons 1354 01:20:23,443 --> 01:20:25,403 are out protecting a bunch of Nazis. 1355 01:20:25,487 --> 01:20:28,615 My granddaddy fought the Nazis in World War II. 1356 01:20:28,698 --> 01:20:29,616 Yeah! 1357 01:20:29,699 --> 01:20:34,287 The Nazis were protected by these patriot militias with weapons. 1358 01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:37,666 Can I ask what group you guys are with? 1359 01:20:41,419 --> 01:20:45,173 This is the one place where we can win and win quickly. 1360 01:20:45,257 --> 01:20:46,550 It's remarkable. 1361 01:20:46,633 --> 01:20:49,511 The right loses culturally and so on, but... 1362 01:20:49,594 --> 01:20:51,096 Don't record me, nigger! 1363 01:20:51,179 --> 01:20:52,597 ...in terms of the free speech issue 1364 01:20:52,681 --> 01:20:56,518 and the ability to publicly demonstrate, we're winning. 1365 01:21:19,207 --> 01:21:21,126 There is literally no police around. 1366 01:21:36,057 --> 01:21:38,852 Hey, hey, get off! 1367 01:22:21,603 --> 01:22:25,148 How can you love God and hate other people? 1368 01:22:25,231 --> 01:22:26,775 You can't. 1369 01:22:55,136 --> 01:22:58,223 They went to the wrong area. They were supposed to go over there, 1370 01:22:58,974 --> 01:23:02,811 and it was there when everybody just started raising hell at 'em and, uh... 1371 01:23:04,646 --> 01:23:06,439 and fisticuffs began. 1372 01:23:06,523 --> 01:23:10,819 One guy took a flag from Antifa. I actually tried to take it back. 1373 01:23:18,368 --> 01:23:19,911 Yeah, another fucking cock-sucking Nazi. 1374 01:23:19,995 --> 01:23:21,204 Fucking pussies! 1375 01:23:21,287 --> 01:23:22,789 And all hell broke loose again. 1376 01:23:22,872 --> 01:23:26,167 Apparently, he got dealt with 1377 01:23:26,251 --> 01:23:30,672 because, um, I got pictures of him with a really bloody puffed up face. 1378 01:23:34,968 --> 01:23:36,594 Let's go, Nazis! 1379 01:23:43,101 --> 01:23:44,269 Come on! 1380 01:23:44,352 --> 01:23:46,062 Police are just doing nothing. 1381 01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:51,234 Police are still not stepping in despite multiple fights breaking out. 1382 01:23:51,317 --> 01:23:53,028 No one is going to get out of here. 1383 01:23:53,111 --> 01:23:55,030 Why haven't you guys intervened in the fighting? 1384 01:23:55,113 --> 01:23:56,740 There was fighting all over the place 1385 01:23:56,823 --> 01:23:58,616 and officers just stood there and did nothing. 1386 01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:01,911 Nothing. I got it on tape. Nothing. 1387 01:24:01,995 --> 01:24:04,748 Why didn't you guys intervene in any of the fighting? 1388 01:24:08,585 --> 01:24:12,047 It's 2017 and I don't know why they keep on letting this shit happen. 1389 01:24:18,344 --> 01:24:20,472 The streets of Charlottesville, Virginia, 1390 01:24:20,555 --> 01:24:22,057 look like a battleground. 1391 01:24:32,442 --> 01:24:34,194 Call the police! 1392 01:24:35,528 --> 01:24:37,322 Where are the police? 1393 01:24:39,365 --> 01:24:41,451 There seems very little government response 1394 01:24:41,534 --> 01:24:43,328 to this incredibly large riot. 1395 01:24:51,169 --> 01:24:52,045 Shoot! 1396 01:24:52,337 --> 01:24:54,672 Fire the first shot in the race war, baby! 1397 01:24:54,964 --> 01:24:55,924 Shoot! 1398 01:24:57,383 --> 01:25:00,595 Go ahead, motherfucker. I'm telling you, I'll shoot you. 1399 01:25:09,521 --> 01:25:11,064 We are right! 1400 01:25:12,065 --> 01:25:13,691 They are wrong! 1401 01:25:14,651 --> 01:25:15,819 We are right! 1402 01:25:17,403 --> 01:25:19,072 They are wrong! 1403 01:25:19,155 --> 01:25:21,324 By authority of the Commonwealth of Virginia, 1404 01:25:21,407 --> 01:25:24,327 this event has been declared an unlawful assembly. 1405 01:25:25,328 --> 01:25:28,081 If you do not leave the area immediately, you will be arrested. 1406 01:25:29,207 --> 01:25:31,709 Do not interfere with law enforcement. 1407 01:25:37,006 --> 01:25:38,716 All right, police are pushing me out. 1408 01:25:51,980 --> 01:25:53,648 That certainly sounded like a gunshot. 1409 01:25:54,524 --> 01:25:55,817 Shots were being fired. 1410 01:25:55,900 --> 01:25:57,861 I heard what I thought then was a gunshot 1411 01:25:57,944 --> 01:26:00,488 and I was like, "Wow, this is really going south. 1412 01:26:00,572 --> 01:26:01,447 We've got to get out." 1413 01:26:01,531 --> 01:26:03,741 Sir, I will surrender-- 1414 01:26:04,909 --> 01:26:06,327 Stop. Stop. 1415 01:26:06,661 --> 01:26:07,662 Sir, Stop. 1416 01:26:07,745 --> 01:26:09,414 Why are you attacking us? 1417 01:26:19,215 --> 01:26:21,217 These guys hate you out there, man. You don't have to do this. 1418 01:26:21,301 --> 01:26:23,428 - Sir. - Get up. Get up. 1419 01:26:24,888 --> 01:26:27,223 Stand on your feet. Stand on your feet, guys. 1420 01:26:27,807 --> 01:26:29,517 Stop. 1421 01:26:30,935 --> 01:26:32,270 Stop. I'm not resisting. 1422 01:26:42,739 --> 01:26:45,158 It looks like teargas here. 1423 01:26:47,076 --> 01:26:49,245 My whole body was on fire 1424 01:26:49,329 --> 01:26:52,081 and I couldn't blink, I couldn't rub my eyes. 1425 01:26:52,165 --> 01:26:53,333 I mean, it was bad. 1426 01:26:54,542 --> 01:26:58,463 It's the first time this has ever happened because I usually stay out of the fight. 1427 01:26:58,546 --> 01:26:59,589 What happened this time? 1428 01:26:59,672 --> 01:27:02,217 Well, I was trying to help somebody 1429 01:27:03,009 --> 01:27:08,681 and, uh, somebody from TWB took a shot at me with a pepper spray. 1430 01:27:10,141 --> 01:27:11,643 So, yeah, he got me. 1431 01:27:11,726 --> 01:27:12,810 You need to call someone? 1432 01:27:12,894 --> 01:27:16,105 No, I'm OK. Those who I need to call are here. 1433 01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:17,899 Hit me with-- Any water? 1434 01:27:19,067 --> 01:27:20,985 - My ear is on fire. - OK. 1435 01:27:21,069 --> 01:27:22,946 OK. I have some. Here. 1436 01:27:23,988 --> 01:27:25,740 - OK. - Hit me, hit me, go ahead. 1437 01:27:25,823 --> 01:27:27,575 Go right into the ear. 1438 01:27:27,659 --> 01:27:29,911 After two hours of streetfight, 1439 01:27:29,994 --> 01:27:32,497 finally the cops stepped in, the cops stepped in, 1440 01:27:32,580 --> 01:27:34,123 but they waited till noon. 1441 01:27:34,207 --> 01:27:38,795 They let that stuff go for two hours before they did anything about it. 1442 01:27:38,878 --> 01:27:43,258 This is the worst example of police enforcement 1443 01:27:43,341 --> 01:27:44,926 I've ever seen in anything like this. 1444 01:27:46,135 --> 01:27:50,390 I photographed stuff from back in Vietnam, protests. 1445 01:27:50,807 --> 01:27:56,813 I've never seen police just stand around and let stuff like this go on for hours. 1446 01:27:57,522 --> 01:27:59,732 Do not intervene with law enforcement. 1447 01:27:59,816 --> 01:28:03,528 The Charlottesville police had a legal obligation to provide protection. 1448 01:28:04,279 --> 01:28:06,781 Perhaps you've read the report that's come out recently now. 1449 01:28:06,864 --> 01:28:10,118 But it's very clear that the police were under orders 1450 01:28:10,201 --> 01:28:12,954 to let a certain amount of violence happen. 1451 01:28:13,621 --> 01:28:15,581 Hey, everyone, I'm safe and sound. 1452 01:28:15,665 --> 01:28:17,125 We were standing our ground. 1453 01:28:18,167 --> 01:28:21,296 And the police who came out in just full riot gear. 1454 01:28:21,379 --> 01:28:24,465 I mean, they were pushing us and then kicking us in the shins 1455 01:28:24,549 --> 01:28:25,883 underneath the shields. 1456 01:28:25,967 --> 01:28:31,180 Uh, but I have to be honest, I am absolutely outraged 1457 01:28:31,472 --> 01:28:35,184 at the conduct of the city of Charlottesville and the police. 1458 01:28:35,268 --> 01:28:36,644 Police aren't even in this area. 1459 01:28:36,728 --> 01:28:38,271 I'm seeing fights break out right now. 1460 01:28:40,648 --> 01:28:42,442 Hey, somebody help! 1461 01:28:42,567 --> 01:28:44,027 You guys all right? 1462 01:28:51,784 --> 01:28:53,536 Hey, stand down right now! 1463 01:28:58,541 --> 01:29:00,293 - Now! - Hit him! 1464 01:29:01,961 --> 01:29:03,171 Get up! 1465 01:29:30,573 --> 01:29:32,450 - No! Hey! Get him! - Hey, help him! 1466 01:29:32,533 --> 01:29:33,743 Somebody help him! 1467 01:29:37,038 --> 01:29:39,248 Hey, stand out right now! 1468 01:29:39,332 --> 01:29:41,542 Stop, get back! Go! 1469 01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:44,378 - Stand down! - Now! Go! 1470 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:52,595 I came here to speak my mind, to talk about our movement's ideas, 1471 01:29:52,678 --> 01:29:54,222 and I was attacked. 1472 01:29:54,305 --> 01:29:56,516 We are gonna make Charlottesville the center of the universe. 1473 01:29:56,599 --> 01:29:58,893 We are going to come back here often. 1474 01:29:58,976 --> 01:30:01,229 We're going-- Your head's going to spin 1475 01:30:01,646 --> 01:30:03,731 how many times we're going to be back here. 1476 01:30:06,526 --> 01:30:09,028 You motherfuckers! You dance like this! 1477 01:30:09,946 --> 01:30:11,239 - Fuck you! - You know-- 1478 01:30:11,322 --> 01:30:12,281 Fuck you! 1479 01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:28,589 Holy shit! 1480 01:30:29,507 --> 01:30:32,802 Holy shit! Holy shit! 1481 01:30:34,262 --> 01:30:35,638 Go, go, go, go. 1482 01:30:46,274 --> 01:30:47,733 Why? 1483 01:30:53,489 --> 01:30:57,201 We got multiple injuries. Possible fatalities. 1484 01:31:01,122 --> 01:31:05,835 I'm assuming a white nationalist ran a huge crowd of people. I just saw it. 1485 01:31:06,294 --> 01:31:08,504 Where are the police and the ambulances? 1486 01:31:08,796 --> 01:31:10,131 I cannot believe what just happened. 1487 01:31:10,214 --> 01:31:11,924 I've never seen anything like that in my life. 1488 01:31:12,008 --> 01:31:14,260 Breaking news. Terror in Charlottesville. 1489 01:31:14,343 --> 01:31:19,265 Victims thrown in the air, one woman dead, others critically wounded. 1490 01:31:19,348 --> 01:31:22,393 James Fields Junior is facing a number of charges. 1491 01:31:22,476 --> 01:31:25,855 He's charged with one count of second degree murder, 1492 01:31:25,938 --> 01:31:29,942 three counts of malicious wounding, and one count of hit-and-run. 1493 01:31:30,026 --> 01:31:32,987 Why not just condemn her killing? 1494 01:31:33,070 --> 01:31:35,198 I certainly condemn her killing 1495 01:31:35,281 --> 01:31:39,118 in the sense that I certainly did not want it to happen 1496 01:31:39,202 --> 01:31:40,870 and I think it's a sad thing. 1497 01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:45,208 But I'm not going to play into their game 1498 01:31:45,291 --> 01:31:49,587 in the sense of denouncing the movement 1499 01:31:49,670 --> 01:31:51,714 or saying that hate killed her or-- 1500 01:31:56,594 --> 01:32:00,264 We expected there will be some loss of life in the age of Trump 1501 01:32:00,348 --> 01:32:02,725 at the hands of these right-wing extremists, 1502 01:32:02,934 --> 01:32:06,562 and we just were not prepared for that being the way. 1503 01:32:06,979 --> 01:32:09,190 I think that Charlottesville... 1504 01:32:11,108 --> 01:32:13,444 was an incredibly big deal. 1505 01:32:13,527 --> 01:32:17,657 It was something that caused people to realize 1506 01:32:17,740 --> 01:32:21,035 that you can't ignore the Nazis. 1507 01:32:21,118 --> 01:32:24,372 We condemn in the strongest possible terms 1508 01:32:25,289 --> 01:32:29,627 this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence 1509 01:32:29,710 --> 01:32:32,421 on many sides, on many sides. 1510 01:32:32,505 --> 01:32:37,051 What about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt-right? 1511 01:32:37,260 --> 01:32:40,304 Do they have any semblance of guilt? 1512 01:32:40,388 --> 01:32:42,223 You had a group on one side that was bad 1513 01:32:42,306 --> 01:32:45,768 and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. 1514 01:32:46,018 --> 01:32:48,646 And nobody wants to say that, but I'll say it right now. 1515 01:32:48,729 --> 01:32:51,691 We understand that President Trump has reached out. 1516 01:32:51,774 --> 01:32:54,235 Have you talked to him directly yet? 1517 01:32:54,318 --> 01:32:56,654 I have not and now I will not. 1518 01:32:56,862 --> 01:32:59,865 I'm not talking to the President now, I'm sorry. 1519 01:32:59,949 --> 01:33:01,033 What did you-- 1520 01:33:01,117 --> 01:33:02,576 After what he said about my child. 1521 01:33:02,660 --> 01:33:05,288 The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, 1522 01:33:05,371 --> 01:33:06,872 was a fine statement. 1523 01:33:06,956 --> 01:33:09,750 I expected Trump to be an idiot about it 1524 01:33:10,251 --> 01:33:12,378 and he didn't disappoint. 1525 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,008 What always is going to upset me when it comes to Trump, however, 1526 01:33:17,425 --> 01:33:20,886 is just how helpless 1527 01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:23,723 the general public feels they are. 1528 01:33:25,891 --> 01:33:28,978 The idea that I would ever back down 1529 01:33:29,061 --> 01:33:31,647 to such a little creep like Mayor Signer, 1530 01:33:31,731 --> 01:33:33,816 we are never backing down. 1531 01:33:33,899 --> 01:33:35,484 Yeah! 1532 01:33:38,571 --> 01:33:40,865 We got to call it out for what it is. 1533 01:33:41,157 --> 01:33:43,242 It is hatred, it is bigotry 1534 01:33:43,326 --> 01:33:46,871 and our leaders got to be very frank, unequivocal. 1535 01:33:46,954 --> 01:33:49,874 We will not tolerate that in our country. 1536 01:33:51,834 --> 01:33:53,461 I think it'd be hard to find anyone 1537 01:33:53,544 --> 01:33:56,005 who would say that this was some sort of great victory. 1538 01:33:56,088 --> 01:33:57,798 As a result of Charlottesville, 1539 01:33:57,882 --> 01:34:00,634 Confederate memorials all around the country suddenly came down. 1540 01:34:00,718 --> 01:34:02,636 The idea was to defend one. 1541 01:34:02,887 --> 01:34:05,014 And it had absolutely reverse effect. 1542 01:34:05,306 --> 01:34:09,435 The consequences of that rally and of Heather Heyer's death 1543 01:34:09,727 --> 01:34:14,231 was this widespread so-called de-platforming 1544 01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:17,318 of anyone who is considered to support 1545 01:34:17,401 --> 01:34:21,447 any kind of white racial consciousness or racial nationalism. 1546 01:34:42,802 --> 01:34:44,178 Yesterday-- 1547 01:34:47,056 --> 01:34:48,307 Fuck you, asshole! 1548 01:34:48,391 --> 01:34:50,976 Fuck off, Jason! Shut the fuck up-- 1549 01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:55,689 Indict for murder now! Indict for murder now! 1550 01:34:55,773 --> 01:34:57,566 - Get the fuck out of here! - Indict for murder! 1551 01:34:57,650 --> 01:35:02,655 He invited these people! Indict for murder now! 1552 01:35:15,126 --> 01:35:16,961 Come on, come on. 1553 01:35:19,839 --> 01:35:21,382 Let's go, let's go! 1554 01:35:21,465 --> 01:35:23,175 Her name was Heather, jerk! 1555 01:35:23,259 --> 01:35:25,302 Her name was Heather, Jason! 1556 01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:28,013 Her blood is on your hands. 1557 01:35:28,431 --> 01:35:33,018 So, please, go home and never come back. 1558 01:35:36,021 --> 01:35:39,358 All right, we are live. We are live. We're live. 1559 01:35:40,568 --> 01:35:41,652 OK, guys, let's do it. 1560 01:35:41,735 --> 01:35:43,988 - Let's go. - Let's go. 1561 01:35:44,989 --> 01:35:46,073 Move. 1562 01:35:48,784 --> 01:35:50,161 We are peacefully here. 1563 01:35:50,244 --> 01:35:52,705 Yes, we are not breaking any law in fact. 1564 01:35:52,788 --> 01:35:54,582 Well, but you're assholes. 1565 01:35:57,877 --> 01:36:00,963 We said we would be back. We are back. 1566 01:36:05,634 --> 01:36:07,428 You can see we are peacefully walking. 1567 01:36:11,348 --> 01:36:12,892 What are you guys doing? 1568 01:36:13,767 --> 01:36:15,311 Peacefully walking. 1569 01:36:15,686 --> 01:36:17,897 You all can be witnesses. Peacefully walking. 1570 01:36:26,822 --> 01:36:28,324 Jesus Christ... 1571 01:36:33,954 --> 01:36:35,706 Formations are just filling right here. 1572 01:36:35,789 --> 01:36:37,833 This goes up to the front. This goes up there. 1573 01:36:37,917 --> 01:36:39,543 - Fill in. - Yes, up there. 1574 01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:42,338 You guys form up with the statue at your back. 1575 01:36:42,421 --> 01:36:45,341 Form up with the statue at your back, at your rear. 1576 01:36:46,258 --> 01:36:47,301 Face out. Face out. 1577 01:36:47,384 --> 01:36:48,552 We're by the statue, 1578 01:36:48,636 --> 01:36:51,472 it's covered up in black. That's a sad sight. 1579 01:36:52,389 --> 01:36:53,474 Here. 1580 01:36:53,557 --> 01:36:55,267 You will not replace us! 1581 01:36:55,351 --> 01:36:57,394 You will not replace us! 1582 01:36:57,603 --> 01:36:59,563 You will not replace us! 1583 01:36:59,647 --> 01:37:01,524 You will not replace us! 1584 01:37:01,774 --> 01:37:03,609 You will not replace us! 1585 01:37:03,817 --> 01:37:05,653 You will not replace us! 1586 01:37:05,861 --> 01:37:07,446 These guys who marched in Charlottesville, 1587 01:37:07,530 --> 01:37:10,074 these are the people who are aware 1588 01:37:10,157 --> 01:37:12,660 of the unspoken premise 1589 01:37:12,743 --> 01:37:15,788 of this sort of zombie neo-liberalism we're living in, 1590 01:37:15,871 --> 01:37:17,915 which is that we're coming at a point 1591 01:37:17,998 --> 01:37:20,251 where there's going to be ecological catastrophe 1592 01:37:20,334 --> 01:37:24,380 and it's going to either require mass redistribution 1593 01:37:24,463 --> 01:37:29,426 of the ill-gotten gains of the first world or genocide. 1594 01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:31,178 This is where the White House is. 1595 01:37:31,262 --> 01:37:34,223 We're going to get to 17th Street, take a right, come back-- 1596 01:37:34,306 --> 01:37:36,517 And these are the first people who have basically said, 1597 01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,936 "Well, if that's the choice, I choose genocide." 1598 01:37:39,019 --> 01:37:42,022 ...in my opinion, it could be taken without the authorization of Congress, 1599 01:37:42,106 --> 01:37:44,066 uh, is building a wall. 1600 01:37:44,149 --> 01:37:45,484 - So, that's my speech basically. - Yeah. 1601 01:37:45,568 --> 01:37:47,653 I think that will be five to ten minutes. 1602 01:37:47,736 --> 01:37:52,324 If I can try to get you to work on it, then we have to be able to talk about it. 1603 01:37:52,408 --> 01:37:54,660 And they're getting everybody else ready, 1604 01:37:54,743 --> 01:37:56,287 intellectually and emotionally, 1605 01:37:56,912 --> 01:37:59,248 for why that's going to be OK when it happens. 1606 01:37:59,331 --> 01:38:01,000 So, with statistics showing 1607 01:38:01,083 --> 01:38:04,378 white people soon becoming a minority in this country, 1608 01:38:04,461 --> 01:38:07,089 do you ever feel like you're just fighting a losing battle? 1609 01:38:07,172 --> 01:38:10,426 No. Demographics are creating this. 1610 01:38:10,509 --> 01:38:11,969 They are doing it for us. 1611 01:38:12,052 --> 01:38:16,348 It's not me convincing millions of people through rational argumentation. 1612 01:38:16,432 --> 01:38:21,020 It's their lived experience as a minority white 1613 01:38:21,103 --> 01:38:23,689 in a country that once was theirs. 1614 01:38:26,567 --> 01:38:30,613 I don't make my decisions on my chances of winning. 1615 01:38:30,696 --> 01:38:33,532 I make my decisions according to what is right, 1616 01:38:33,616 --> 01:38:36,994 the duty I owe to my ancestors, my obligations to my children. 1617 01:38:37,077 --> 01:38:38,370 And I think we will win. 1618 01:38:40,372 --> 01:38:43,000 When putting all this money into more fucking walls 1619 01:38:43,083 --> 01:38:46,253 and drones and bombs and guns to keep them away 1620 01:38:46,337 --> 01:38:49,423 and so that we can watch them die, with clear consciences, 1621 01:38:49,506 --> 01:38:52,551 it's going to be because we've been loaded with the ideology 1622 01:38:52,635 --> 01:38:55,429 that these guys are now starting to express publicly. 1623 01:38:55,512 --> 01:38:57,765 On the other side of them, you have people who are saying, 1624 01:38:57,848 --> 01:39:00,142 in full fucking voice, "No." 1625 01:39:00,225 --> 01:39:02,603 Immigrants are welcome here! 1626 01:39:02,686 --> 01:39:04,647 We have the resources to save everybody, 1627 01:39:04,730 --> 01:39:08,734 to give everybody a fucking decent and worthwhile existence. 1628 01:39:08,817 --> 01:39:12,696 And that is the fucking real difference between these two. 1629 01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,948 This is not right and you know it! 1630 01:39:15,032 --> 01:39:17,076 This is a really important fight. 1631 01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:19,953 In the long term, we have to win this one. 1632 01:39:20,037 --> 01:39:21,580 We have to win this one. 1633 01:39:22,039 --> 01:39:27,169 If they win, if the alt-right wins, what we're looking at is 1634 01:39:28,921 --> 01:39:31,965 incredible suffering and people dying. 1635 01:39:32,049 --> 01:39:36,512 I'm calling on you, Donald Trump, build that wall! 1636 01:39:36,595 --> 01:39:38,097 Nazi scum! 1637 01:39:38,180 --> 01:39:40,849 You owe it to every single person who voted for you! 1638 01:39:40,933 --> 01:39:44,687 I think that Spencer is basically just going through the motions now. 1639 01:39:44,895 --> 01:39:48,315 Spencer did not want to be the carnival barker. 1640 01:39:48,399 --> 01:39:51,318 Spencer did not want to be just in the streets 1641 01:39:51,402 --> 01:39:54,071 basically parroting what everyone has heard 1642 01:39:54,154 --> 01:39:56,865 from white-supremacists over the past 50 years. 1643 01:39:56,949 --> 01:39:59,493 He could have been Senator Spencer at this point. 1644 01:39:59,576 --> 01:40:02,996 Daryle Lamont Jenkins was in Charlottesville, Virginia, 1645 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,417 and he outed a lot of the KKK guys. 1646 01:40:07,710 --> 01:40:09,420 I'm one of the few Antifa, 1647 01:40:09,503 --> 01:40:12,089 you may have heard that term before, anti-fascists. 1648 01:40:12,172 --> 01:40:15,259 I'm one of the few that you would see in public. 1649 01:40:15,342 --> 01:40:17,469 A lot of us do not like to be in public. 1650 01:40:17,553 --> 01:40:19,513 A lot of us can't. 1651 01:40:19,930 --> 01:40:23,684 And it's on their behalf that I take this award. 1652 01:40:23,767 --> 01:40:27,146 It is on the behalf of those victims of hatred and bigotry 1653 01:40:27,229 --> 01:40:28,564 that I accept this award. 1654 01:40:28,647 --> 01:40:32,151 Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum! 1655 01:40:32,234 --> 01:40:35,696 Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum! 1656 01:40:35,779 --> 01:40:39,366 Fuck off, Nazi scum! Fuck off, Nazi scum! 1657 01:40:39,450 --> 01:40:41,285 Fuck off, Nazi scum! 1658 01:40:41,368 --> 01:40:44,246 I go out there and try to document every single thing 1659 01:40:44,329 --> 01:40:49,293 that is going on in the white power scene or in the hate scene in general. 1660 01:40:49,376 --> 01:40:53,922 That's the way we are all going to learn how to beat it back, how to keep it down, 1661 01:40:54,006 --> 01:40:55,966 how to diminish their ability to function. 1662 01:40:56,049 --> 01:40:58,761 And one thing that needs to be said 1663 01:40:59,219 --> 01:41:03,474 is that evil can only do what we allow it to do. 1664 01:41:03,557 --> 01:41:07,936 We are stronger than anything that is coming our way. 1665 01:41:08,020 --> 01:41:10,731 No Nazis, no KKK, no fascist USA! 1666 01:41:10,814 --> 01:41:13,275 Truth of the matter is we all got to step up. 1667 01:41:13,609 --> 01:41:17,279 We cannot ignore what's out there. We got to fight back. 1668 01:41:17,362 --> 01:41:21,283 And the only way we can do that is when we get up in their face 1669 01:41:21,366 --> 01:41:22,951 and tell them, "This far, but no farther." 1670 01:41:23,035 --> 01:41:24,286 Thank you very much. 1671 01:41:36,507 --> 01:41:39,802 Fascism arises because of the collapse 1672 01:41:39,885 --> 01:41:43,138 of institutional legitimacy of liberal institutions. 1673 01:41:43,222 --> 01:41:44,723 So, it's how we got fucking Trump, 1674 01:41:44,807 --> 01:41:47,476 it's how we're going to get what's coming next after him 1675 01:41:47,559 --> 01:41:49,353 that's going to be even worse. 1676 01:41:52,564 --> 01:41:53,482 If you think there's not gonna be 1677 01:41:53,565 --> 01:41:56,985 more ecological and economic catastrophes in the future... 1678 01:41:57,069 --> 01:42:00,113 Strong worry is that it's about to get worse. 1679 01:42:00,197 --> 01:42:03,575 ...that liberalism is wholly unsuited to fucking deal with 1680 01:42:03,659 --> 01:42:06,370 and that that failure is not going to lead 1681 01:42:06,453 --> 01:42:10,123 to fascism filling that fucking hole, you got another thing coming. 1682 01:42:16,171 --> 01:42:17,840 So, America right now 1683 01:42:17,923 --> 01:42:21,343 is more divided and polarized than it has been in decades. 1684 01:42:21,718 --> 01:42:23,720 How's the country gonna come together? 1685 01:42:25,806 --> 01:42:28,559 I don't think the country will come together 1686 01:42:28,642 --> 01:42:31,478 and I don't want it to. 1687 01:42:31,562 --> 01:42:34,022 Maybe we can't be a nation anymore. 1688 01:42:34,106 --> 01:42:37,860 Maybe race and culture and ethnicity and religion, 1689 01:42:37,943 --> 01:42:40,153 maybe those are really real things. 1690 01:42:40,821 --> 01:42:42,656 And we're not gonna come together. 1691 01:42:42,739 --> 01:42:45,701 At this point, we're the most divided as a country we've been-- 1692 01:42:45,784 --> 01:42:46,952 - I disagree. - No? 1693 01:42:47,035 --> 01:42:49,538 - You disagree? - Yes. I disagree. 1694 01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,125 We're not divided. We're not divided the way people may think we are. 1695 01:42:53,208 --> 01:42:54,668 We're frustrated, 1696 01:42:55,294 --> 01:42:58,297 we want questions answered, but we're not divided. 141488

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