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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,611 --> 00:00:04,528 (mysterious music) 2 00:00:07,792 --> 00:00:11,765 - [Narrator] Reality Films. 3 00:00:11,765 --> 00:00:14,598 (twinkling music) 4 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:17,315 - [Narrator] It was the early morning of the seventh 5 00:00:17,315 --> 00:00:19,940 of the seventh of the seventh of this year, about 1:35 a.m. 6 00:00:19,940 --> 00:00:24,021 My friend Paul and I arrived at the top of Knapp Hill. 7 00:00:24,021 --> 00:00:26,854 (twinkling music) 8 00:00:32,530 --> 00:00:34,933 And then around 3:13 a.m, 9 00:00:36,991 --> 00:00:38,700 (background noise draws out dialogue) 10 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:41,329 We will experience a big white flash in the sky. 11 00:00:41,329 --> 00:00:44,795 (twinkling music) 12 00:00:44,795 --> 00:00:46,023 At this point in the evening, around 3:20, 13 00:00:46,023 --> 00:00:47,570 it's the darkest point in the night, 14 00:00:47,570 --> 00:00:50,710 and as the sky was sort of really laden with clouds. 15 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:51,660 There's absolutely nothing. 16 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:53,346 It was a pitch black field. 17 00:00:53,346 --> 00:00:55,689 There was nothing to be seen down below. 18 00:00:55,689 --> 00:00:58,522 (twinkling music) 19 00:01:00,027 --> 00:01:02,023 But at about 20 to four, some light was creeping in then 20 00:01:02,023 --> 00:01:04,830 from the east with the sun coming up, 21 00:01:04,830 --> 00:01:06,890 and we began to see a shadow 22 00:01:08,275 --> 00:01:10,460 or what appeared to be shadows up the field. 23 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:12,160 It was at this point when we looked through the camera 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,414 that we all could see through the viewfinder 25 00:01:14,414 --> 00:01:15,443 that there was a massive, 26 00:01:15,443 --> 00:01:17,168 absolutely massive spectacular formation 27 00:01:17,168 --> 00:01:18,427 down there below us. 28 00:01:18,427 --> 00:01:21,260 (twinkling music) 29 00:01:38,292 --> 00:01:41,561 ♪ Look into the face of the world ♪ 30 00:01:41,561 --> 00:01:45,236 ♪ Learn about your stay here ♪ 31 00:01:45,236 --> 00:01:48,580 ♪ Innocence personified ♪ 32 00:01:48,580 --> 00:01:51,747 ♪ Of reality yourself ♪ 33 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,993 (soft calm music) 34 00:02:14,590 --> 00:02:16,210 - You've been researching crop circles 35 00:02:16,210 --> 00:02:17,958 for what, 11 years now? 36 00:02:17,958 --> 00:02:18,791 - Mm-hmm. 37 00:02:18,791 --> 00:02:20,350 - Okay, in that time 38 00:02:20,350 --> 00:02:22,820 we've seen the crop circle patterns changing. 39 00:02:22,820 --> 00:02:25,010 They started off with very 40 00:02:25,010 --> 00:02:27,350 kind of basic circular type shapes. 41 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:28,990 The geometric shapes increased 42 00:02:28,990 --> 00:02:31,120 then we started to get pictograms. 43 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,060 What's happening now? 44 00:02:32,060 --> 00:02:33,963 What's the kind of current pattern? 45 00:02:35,710 --> 00:02:39,493 - The actual evolution continues as it has since 1978, 46 00:02:40,970 --> 00:02:44,410 which was the inception of the first major crop circles 47 00:02:44,410 --> 00:02:46,830 in Southern England that were taken seriously. 48 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:50,257 Since then, as you said, it has been a constant evolution. 49 00:02:54,016 --> 00:02:59,016 ♪ My path ♪ 50 00:02:59,253 --> 00:03:04,253 ♪ The same as yours ♪ 51 00:03:05,904 --> 00:03:09,571 ♪ Lay down I am a long tree ♪ 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,952 - On the evening of the early morning of the seventh 53 00:03:22,952 --> 00:03:25,480 of the seventh of the seventh of this year about 1:35 a.m, 54 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,250 my friend Paul and I arrived at the top of Knap Hill 55 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:32,660 to begin an all-night vigil looking over East field 56 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:35,070 in the hope that a formation may appear. 57 00:03:35,070 --> 00:03:40,070 And then around 3:13, I'm told from that time on the tape 58 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,890 that we will experience a big white flash in the sky, 59 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:47,304 which very momentarily laden the whole sky out. 60 00:03:47,304 --> 00:03:48,410 (background noise draws out dialogue) 61 00:03:48,410 --> 00:03:50,133 It was very momentarily. 62 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:52,420 At this point of the evening about 3:20 is the darkest point 63 00:03:52,420 --> 00:03:56,080 of the night and as the sky was so really laden with clouds 64 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,210 There's not, absolutely nothing, 65 00:03:57,210 --> 00:03:58,380 it was a pitch-black field 66 00:03:58,380 --> 00:04:00,910 and there's nothing to be seen down below. 67 00:04:00,910 --> 00:04:04,020 But about 20 to four, some lightness creeping in then 68 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:05,930 from the east with the Sun coming up, 69 00:04:05,930 --> 00:04:08,160 and we began to see the shadows 70 00:04:09,130 --> 00:04:11,720 or what appeared to be shadows on the field. 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,400 It was at this point that we looked through the camera 72 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,620 that we all could see through the viewfinder. 73 00:04:15,620 --> 00:04:16,453 There was a massive, 74 00:04:16,453 --> 00:04:18,690 absolutely massive spectacular formation down 75 00:04:18,690 --> 00:04:19,523 there below us. 76 00:04:21,286 --> 00:04:24,119 (twinkling music) 77 00:04:41,910 --> 00:04:43,720 - This was the formation that occurred on seventh 78 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,520 of the seventh of the seventh last year. 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,070 From construction point of view, 80 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:49,990 first of all you've got to have 81 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:53,940 at least on this construction two centers to work 82 00:04:53,940 --> 00:04:55,910 that particular geometry out. 83 00:04:55,910 --> 00:04:57,720 So, you would expect to find somewhere 84 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,820 around here postholes. 85 00:04:59,905 --> 00:05:01,580 That certainly is the case that this fine 86 00:05:01,580 --> 00:05:03,340 would be considered a construction line 87 00:05:03,340 --> 00:05:07,780 was certainly laid down first in both of these major arcs. 88 00:05:07,780 --> 00:05:10,590 However, we went into this formation very early 89 00:05:10,590 --> 00:05:12,250 on yesterday on seventh of July 90 00:05:12,250 --> 00:05:14,360 and we actually managed to get into lots of these circles 91 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,170 and pick up the crop and examine this fine line 92 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:19,330 and that was not crushed in the situation 93 00:05:19,330 --> 00:05:21,660 where it would have had to have been crushed to rhythmically 94 00:05:21,660 --> 00:05:22,900 if this was made by people. 95 00:05:22,900 --> 00:05:26,920 Also, you know, the peripheries of all the main circles, 96 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,880 you know, to define the circle you need to, 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,490 you know, effectively create your, 98 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:32,200 you know, your circle your outer line 99 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,060 and typically on a hoax formation, 100 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:36,360 there would be heavy crushing to define a circle 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,590 in a fin drive and then the rest would just be filled 102 00:05:38,590 --> 00:05:42,580 and that wasn't also not present in this formation. 103 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:46,230 Also very, very noteworthy is the topography of the land 104 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:49,290 with the inside this particular formation down this end 105 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:51,820 from around about here, sloping down here. 106 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:54,120 This was actually raising up like an enlarging hill 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,600 in the field so this part of the formation 108 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,770 was around about three to four metres higher 109 00:05:58,770 --> 00:06:00,730 than this part of the formation. 110 00:06:00,730 --> 00:06:03,500 So, if you took a line from somewhere out here 111 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:07,530 to create your arc, your semi-circle effectively, 112 00:06:07,530 --> 00:06:08,363 they would have actually been 113 00:06:08,363 --> 00:06:10,520 an almost a physical impossibility to do that 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,750 because your rope would have been on the ground about here 115 00:06:13,750 --> 00:06:15,560 and you've been dragging through the standing crop 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,530 so, just a physical creation of that one arc 117 00:06:18,530 --> 00:06:21,130 would be extremely problematic. 118 00:06:21,130 --> 00:06:23,630 So, on the whole we were effectively looking for crushing 119 00:06:23,630 --> 00:06:28,250 around peripheral areas, central construction points, edges 120 00:06:28,250 --> 00:06:32,010 of circles and like you said postholes, stuff like that 121 00:06:32,010 --> 00:06:35,210 and you would effectively go out into the field looking 122 00:06:35,210 --> 00:06:38,780 for areas within, you know, within the your standing crop 123 00:06:38,780 --> 00:06:42,220 where people would have had to stand to create wider image. 124 00:06:42,220 --> 00:06:44,980 In this particular case, none of the evidence 125 00:06:44,980 --> 00:06:47,700 I would suggest a hoax was present on the ground 126 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:49,690 very early in the morning on the first day. 127 00:06:49,690 --> 00:06:52,390 - Some of these circles they're hard to see here 128 00:06:52,390 --> 00:06:54,360 when you get down to the actual, when you got down 129 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,660 to the initial landscape. 130 00:06:55,660 --> 00:06:56,774 They're over so tiny, aren't they? 131 00:06:56,774 --> 00:06:57,893 - Yeah. 132 00:06:58,818 --> 00:07:00,370 - The detail is amazing. 133 00:07:00,370 --> 00:07:02,900 - Joss, I'm extremely interesting about this 134 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:07,460 and it relates again to the actual topography of the land. 135 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:10,450 This circle here, it was effectively on dead flat ground. 136 00:07:10,450 --> 00:07:11,283 - [Interviewer] Right. 137 00:07:11,283 --> 00:07:13,850 - [Charles] This circle here was on quite a heavy slope 138 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:18,153 and I measured both of these circles in cross-section 139 00:07:18,153 --> 00:07:21,180 and this circle which was on heavily sloping ground 140 00:07:21,180 --> 00:07:24,420 was elliptical and it was elliptical by a large degree. 141 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:28,300 Yeah, talking like about three meters squashed in one side. 142 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:30,260 This circle which was on the flat ground 143 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:31,950 was perfectly round. 144 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:34,390 Now, if you go out and put a peg in the ground 145 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:35,700 and fake a circle, 146 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:36,533 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 147 00:07:36,533 --> 00:07:38,500 - [Charles] It's gonna be around however steep the hill is. 148 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,770 Everything about this formation suggested 149 00:07:40,770 --> 00:07:42,640 it came down this circle 150 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,390 at circular filippov attested all of the ones 151 00:07:45,390 --> 00:07:48,550 on the slopes viewed from above their circular measured 152 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:50,000 on the ground they're elliptical. 153 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:50,833 - Right. 154 00:07:50,833 --> 00:07:52,570 - Creating an ellipse on the ground physically, 155 00:07:52,570 --> 00:07:55,760 just draw an ellipse, it's very difficult to get it correct. 156 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,807 To draw a circle it's actually relatively easy. 157 00:07:57,807 --> 00:07:58,640 - Yeah. 158 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,790 - You know, so and in the same I've measured many formations 159 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:05,450 of a similar kind of nature over the years. 160 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:08,917 Most notably the Milk Hill 409 spiral 161 00:08:08,917 --> 00:08:09,750 for 2001. - Right, yeah. 162 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:13,260 - I spent an entire afternoon measuring one of the arms. 163 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:16,480 One arm of Milk Hill was kind of similar to one of these 164 00:08:17,667 --> 00:08:20,530 and the position of that circle in the landscape, 165 00:08:20,530 --> 00:08:21,890 it was on a heavily undulating. 166 00:08:21,890 --> 00:08:24,140 It was top, you know, it's a thousand feet away. 167 00:08:24,140 --> 00:08:26,840 The whole formation you could stand in any given part of it 168 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,523 and just see this. 169 00:08:29,573 --> 00:08:30,406 - Yeah. 170 00:08:30,406 --> 00:08:31,260 - And when taking the time 171 00:08:31,260 --> 00:08:33,377 to measure one arm, literally there was 172 00:08:33,377 --> 00:08:36,060 around about 70 circles in each arm. 173 00:08:36,060 --> 00:08:36,893 - Wow! 174 00:08:36,893 --> 00:08:39,330 - Pretty much every circle which I personally measured 175 00:08:39,330 --> 00:08:42,210 in the same way cross sections. 176 00:08:42,210 --> 00:08:44,700 Every circle that was on the sloping ground was elliptical, 177 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,850 every circle is on flat ground was round. 178 00:08:47,850 --> 00:08:51,520 - It started either being stamped down or created 179 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,347 to represent a circle when viewed from above. 180 00:08:54,347 --> 00:08:55,606 - Yeah. 181 00:08:55,606 --> 00:08:58,523 (mysterious music) 182 00:09:05,115 --> 00:09:09,320 The final analysis of the original tapes taken 183 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,830 by wing cage shows this entire formation emerging 184 00:09:12,830 --> 00:09:16,691 in eight minutes and it's as if it scans into the field. 185 00:09:16,691 --> 00:09:19,380 So, it's like a line and cut goods across the field 186 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:21,290 towards the hillside, towards the camera 187 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:25,010 and the whole thing just scans in very subtle, 188 00:09:25,010 --> 00:09:28,990 very soft, no flashing lights, no Hollywood special effects. 189 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:32,810 Very simple quite vague or almost boring but there it is. 190 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:36,590 It appears in eight minutes and, you know, 191 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:39,590 that would take 400 hoaxes eight minutes to make that circle 192 00:09:40,652 --> 00:09:41,485 (both laugh) 193 00:09:41,485 --> 00:09:42,500 and I can see I'm in the film. 194 00:09:43,386 --> 00:09:44,940 - And they'd be quite not easy, weren't they? 195 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:47,480 Something I believe happens when, 196 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,760 you know, when they say that it's not hoax, 197 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,910 is that the lays tend to form patterns within themselves. 198 00:09:52,910 --> 00:09:55,130 You find they kind of spiral twists, 199 00:09:55,130 --> 00:09:57,220 you find the crisscross twists. 200 00:09:57,220 --> 00:09:58,870 There's a number of patterns in there 201 00:09:58,870 --> 00:10:03,120 as well as kind of anomalous damage 202 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,990 to the crop itself as well. 203 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:08,750 - Sure, I would say there doesn't seem 204 00:10:08,750 --> 00:10:13,750 to be any one singular uniform method of crop laying down, 205 00:10:14,260 --> 00:10:16,210 you know, practically every single circle 206 00:10:16,210 --> 00:10:18,170 I've been in over the years which is hundreds 207 00:10:18,170 --> 00:10:21,000 and hundreds of circles examined, 208 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,010 most of the time the crop is kind of laid down differently 209 00:10:24,010 --> 00:10:26,310 but we must remember we grow different kinds of crop 210 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:29,290 and the age of the crop seems to make a difference. 211 00:10:29,290 --> 00:10:32,060 This was very mature ish wheat, 212 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:33,880 you know, as opposed to very young barley. 213 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,280 The effect on crop seems very, very different, 214 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,320 you know, depending on as opposed to say oilseed rape 215 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,680 or sweetcorn, you know, is a huge thick plants 216 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:44,933 and there's an entirely different subject almost again. 217 00:10:46,060 --> 00:10:47,890 So, one has to be very careful 218 00:10:47,890 --> 00:10:49,630 about looking at physical evidence 219 00:10:49,630 --> 00:10:52,290 and in using that as a uniform protocol 220 00:10:52,290 --> 00:10:54,520 for the entire phenomena. 221 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,840 - [Interviewer] It's the original hoaxes 222 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,623 as we know them Doug and Dave. 223 00:10:58,700 --> 00:11:01,150 One of them died, the other guy kind of actually admitted 224 00:11:01,150 --> 00:11:03,370 that it wasn't him anyway. 225 00:11:03,370 --> 00:11:05,120 But since then, you know, team sait 226 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,860 and all these other kind of guys have dived 227 00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:08,877 and he said, "Yeah, we hoaxed every single one of those. 228 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:11,410 "We claim responsibility for those." 229 00:11:11,410 --> 00:11:13,610 When you're out in the field literally 230 00:11:13,610 --> 00:11:17,970 as it were out in these circles, out in these designs, 231 00:11:17,970 --> 00:11:19,750 what is it that stands out to you 232 00:11:19,750 --> 00:11:23,750 that suggests that maybe we're getting two things happening? 233 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:24,790 We are getting hoaxing 234 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:27,150 but we're getting some kind of phenomenon as well. 235 00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:29,710 Is there a difference between circles, 236 00:11:29,710 --> 00:11:32,850 between designs, between the way they're laid? 237 00:11:32,850 --> 00:11:34,437 - There certainly is, I mean on the ground 238 00:11:34,437 --> 00:11:36,330 you take a broad perspective 239 00:11:36,330 --> 00:11:38,650 that all the crop circles from any given year, 240 00:11:38,650 --> 00:11:40,230 from all over the world, 241 00:11:40,230 --> 00:11:43,710 there is a certain amount of different styles 242 00:11:43,710 --> 00:11:47,730 if you will in a sense even varying from region to region 243 00:11:47,730 --> 00:11:49,350 or country to country slightly. 244 00:11:49,350 --> 00:11:52,550 We go into a crop circle on the ground, okay. 245 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:55,700 First, we need to get an honest reasonable 246 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:57,900 and realistic physical analysis on the ground. 247 00:11:57,900 --> 00:12:00,120 We need to be in there very quickly 248 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,420 because clearly once numbers of people, 249 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:04,480 bus loads of visitors 250 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,990 or tourists have gone in, you don't know, 251 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:07,230 how many people have been there? 252 00:12:07,230 --> 00:12:08,780 What they have been doing? 253 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:10,670 And where they were walking for sure 254 00:12:10,670 --> 00:12:13,460 so if you're looking at physical damage, 255 00:12:13,460 --> 00:12:15,730 you don't know if this is caused by visitors, 256 00:12:15,730 --> 00:12:18,740 by hoaxes from the night before. 257 00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:21,920 So, it comes fairly inconclusive at that point, 258 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,780 so really one has to be there fully 259 00:12:23,780 --> 00:12:26,460 by seven, eight, nine o'clock in the morning 260 00:12:26,460 --> 00:12:28,230 especially in the busy part of the summer 261 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:30,120 to make a reasonable physical judgment 262 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,230 and at that time if you get to the formation as quickly, 263 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:35,840 then yes there are things to look for 264 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,020 which would suggest it's a physical creation 265 00:12:38,020 --> 00:12:40,760 by some kind of a mechanical device. 266 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,800 - [Interviewer] such as? 267 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,120 - [Charles] Compression marks around the edges. 268 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,680 In this formation here for instance 269 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:50,060 we have like an underlying all of these arm circles. 270 00:12:50,060 --> 00:12:52,730 They are kind of a fine arc like a straight line. 271 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:54,798 You can just see it, the twins 272 00:12:54,798 --> 00:12:57,370 and you can see it between the circles. 273 00:12:57,370 --> 00:13:00,320 So, for instance if we can go into this crops formation, 274 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,550 very early on the first day, 275 00:13:02,550 --> 00:13:04,250 we'd walk into all of the circles 276 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:07,800 and you'd kind of effectively pit, you know, 277 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,120 the fin line has gone down 278 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,130 and all the crop, the wheat to swirl down on top. 279 00:13:12,130 --> 00:13:15,970 What one would do is lift up the crop 280 00:13:15,970 --> 00:13:18,600 which is laid out on top exposing this fine line 281 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,760 and if this has been made by any kind of physical mechanism, 282 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,820 that fine line would have had to have been basically crushed 283 00:13:24,820 --> 00:13:26,994 down to ground by planks or fits. 284 00:13:26,994 --> 00:13:27,827 - Right. 285 00:13:27,827 --> 00:13:28,660 - So, if we had picked a crop up on top 286 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:30,870 and see if the corn underneath is actually crushed 287 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:34,740 in a kind of a rhythmic way like foot paces incidentally 288 00:13:34,740 --> 00:13:37,413 in this formation actually was not. 289 00:13:37,413 --> 00:13:39,830 (calm music) 290 00:13:47,070 --> 00:13:49,560 - We're hitting into crop circles now, 291 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:51,260 you know, quite a few years later, 292 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:52,860 it's not as though it's breaking news. 293 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:55,610 It's not as though it's amazing stuff or is it? 294 00:13:55,610 --> 00:13:56,950 Is there something that's going on 295 00:13:56,950 --> 00:13:59,200 that makes crop circles still worth watching? 296 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Are we looking at a phenomenon 297 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,783 that's unfolding before our eyes? 298 00:14:05,883 --> 00:14:09,890 - Okay, the evolution as far has taken us to the point 299 00:14:09,890 --> 00:14:13,140 where we are receiving on almost on a daily basis 300 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:15,090 in the summer months, 301 00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:19,330 huge highly complex mathematical patterns 302 00:14:19,330 --> 00:14:21,120 of a real technical order 303 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,650 and at this time, you know, 30 years down the line, 304 00:14:24,650 --> 00:14:27,030 the origin was of the majority of 305 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:28,720 those circles remains a complete mystery 306 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,000 so absolutely certainly is well worth looking at 307 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,840 and whilst the evidence is on the table 308 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,720 as it has been for 20 or so years. 309 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,350 At least, you know we took a mathematical, biological 310 00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:42,810 and physical sciences which amount evidence on the table, 311 00:14:42,810 --> 00:14:44,850 so suggesting without any doubt whatsoever 312 00:14:44,850 --> 00:14:46,620 that something strange and an anomalous 313 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:49,610 is happening to these plants inside the crop circles. 314 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:50,840 That makes it well worth looking at 315 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,520 and the evolution is constant. 316 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,550 It seems to be getting bigger and more impressive 317 00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:59,000 from a technical point of view year on a year 318 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,500 and just this year 2008, 319 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:04,090 we've had more circles this year, this summer 320 00:15:04,090 --> 00:15:06,570 in the last eight weeks or so 321 00:15:06,570 --> 00:15:09,110 than in the previous any given summer 322 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:10,220 from the previous 10 years. 323 00:15:10,220 --> 00:15:12,840 So, something does seem to be kind of upping the ante 324 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,640 and the size and complexity of the circle. 325 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,790 Sometimes we're having as many 326 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:18,930 as five crop circles in one night. 327 00:15:18,930 --> 00:15:22,660 If you put this all down to huge human hoaxing. 328 00:15:22,660 --> 00:15:24,050 So, there were 50 people out 329 00:15:24,050 --> 00:15:26,520 that night making crop circles in the rain. 330 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,442 Yeah, I mean, it stretches credibility. 331 00:15:29,442 --> 00:15:31,859 (calm music) 332 00:16:09,991 --> 00:16:14,991 ♪ My path ♪ 333 00:16:15,204 --> 00:16:20,204 ♪ The same as yours ♪ 334 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:25,586 ♪ Lay down I am a long tree ♪ 335 00:16:40,513 --> 00:16:41,346 We've been looking at new formation. 336 00:16:41,346 --> 00:16:43,650 Also we are for the way the plants are bent. 337 00:16:43,650 --> 00:16:44,717 - Yeah. 338 00:16:44,717 --> 00:16:46,090 - And they should be more or less even, 339 00:16:46,090 --> 00:16:47,370 just above the ground 340 00:16:47,370 --> 00:16:50,670 and bent over neatly all at the same height. 341 00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:52,470 The formations and we would see grape, 342 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:54,190 they're extremely interesting. 343 00:16:54,190 --> 00:16:56,540 Any of the formations, oilseed rape 344 00:16:56,540 --> 00:16:58,340 or maize, sweetcorn, 345 00:16:58,340 --> 00:17:00,890 any of the thick, hollow stem succulent plants. 346 00:17:00,890 --> 00:17:02,440 We will see rape in particular 347 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,480 which the early season formations always occur when... 348 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,756 This stems they're very, very brittle. 349 00:17:08,756 --> 00:17:09,650 - Right. 350 00:17:09,650 --> 00:17:12,220 - I've knocked those down myself just as an experiment 351 00:17:12,220 --> 00:17:13,790 the same as I have of wheat and barley 352 00:17:13,790 --> 00:17:15,480 and all those types of crops. 353 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,200 And it is an absolute fact that, 354 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,190 whenever I have tried to bend down armfuls of oilseed rape, 355 00:17:21,190 --> 00:17:22,300 it'll breaks self units. 356 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:24,640 Snaps off at the ground there's a big ugly kink 357 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,700 or a break and it's clearly, mechanically pushed down. 358 00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:30,240 I've been inside crop formations and we will receive rape 359 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,310 where every single stem has that perfect bend 360 00:17:33,310 --> 00:17:35,980 and the plant is growing horizontal and there's no damage, 361 00:17:35,980 --> 00:17:37,070 you know, it's just no damage. 362 00:17:37,070 --> 00:17:38,900 That to me is an impossibility 363 00:17:39,950 --> 00:17:44,190 with regard the the actual physical science 364 00:17:44,190 --> 00:17:46,870 and the collecting of samples and sending them to Michigan. 365 00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:50,103 This is for BLT research, Dr. Liam Livengood. 366 00:17:51,370 --> 00:17:55,040 You know, I myself do this once or twice a year occasionally 367 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,870 as requested of you effectively. 368 00:17:57,870 --> 00:18:00,010 And what we effectively do is take 369 00:18:00,010 --> 00:18:03,490 in any given circuit probably take around about... 370 00:18:03,490 --> 00:18:06,460 We take a diagram of the actual crop circle 371 00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:10,400 into the formation with number 10 points marked on 372 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:15,400 this diagram, and effectively collect a handful of stems 373 00:18:15,490 --> 00:18:17,730 and then handful of dirt that goes with the stems, 374 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:20,400 put in a bag, mark as sample number one, two, 375 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,110 three, four, five and go around the whole formation. 376 00:18:22,110 --> 00:18:24,330 You've got kind of basically a cross-section 377 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:26,730 of the entire formation covered. 378 00:18:26,730 --> 00:18:29,800 And when we would go out into the field like 200 meters 379 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,560 from the actual crop circle formation 380 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,720 and take another 10 samples from randomly around the field 381 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,920 so as to control samples 382 00:18:37,140 --> 00:18:39,630 and these would effectively be shipped off to North America 383 00:18:39,630 --> 00:18:41,340 where they would do their science 384 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:45,760 which involved checking the soil composition 385 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,510 for any changes, checking actual plans for a cellular 386 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:52,810 or tissue and changes, the graph nodes for elongation 387 00:18:52,810 --> 00:18:54,090 or moisture depletion, 388 00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:57,040 and also that they would actually remove the seeds 389 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,470 and check them for... 390 00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:59,550 Do tests on them. 391 00:18:59,550 --> 00:19:02,730 (background noise draws out dialogue) 392 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:04,660 - [Narrator] And they're intensely brittle. 393 00:19:04,660 --> 00:19:05,493 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 394 00:19:05,493 --> 00:19:08,110 - [Narrator] Now, you can bend the corn here. 395 00:19:08,110 --> 00:19:08,943 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 396 00:19:08,943 --> 00:19:11,610 - [Narrator] All you're doing is snapping, all right? 397 00:19:11,610 --> 00:19:12,443 - [Interviewer] Yes. 398 00:19:12,443 --> 00:19:14,080 - [Narrator] But actually on these little nodes, 399 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,650 you can't bend them because they'll just snap. 400 00:19:17,650 --> 00:19:18,670 - [Interviewer] Now, here's one that... 401 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:21,272 It's just a normal one. 402 00:19:21,272 --> 00:19:22,750 - [Narrator] I can say you bend it like that. 403 00:19:22,750 --> 00:19:23,583 - [Interviewer] Right. 404 00:19:23,583 --> 00:19:24,430 - [Narrator] Straight away. 405 00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:27,500 This is like it's been... 406 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,900 If you look closely you can see little stretch marks. 407 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:33,340 It looks like it's being heated and stretched. 408 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:35,590 Now, researchers that have done, 409 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:37,310 you know, investigations on this, 410 00:19:37,310 --> 00:19:39,760 have now examined and found 411 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,490 there's been a chemical change in between. 412 00:19:41,490 --> 00:19:42,760 - [Interviewer] Right, yeah. 413 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,920 - And that it appears to have been subjected 414 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,480 to something like a microwave kind of energy 415 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,560 where it's heated from the inside out, 416 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,373 but only enough to bend the node. 417 00:19:54,273 --> 00:19:55,160 And obviously being very volatile. 418 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,990 Any more heat on it it burns. - Yeah. 419 00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:58,850 It's kind of like an intense morphine, 420 00:19:58,850 --> 00:20:00,703 very, very, very short time as well. 421 00:20:03,730 --> 00:20:05,920 - So, that's what I tend to go and look for. 422 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,480 - All right, how many would you expect 423 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,486 to find on a site like this? 424 00:20:12,486 --> 00:20:14,479 - Well, I would expect to find lots. 425 00:20:14,479 --> 00:20:16,080 (both laugh) 426 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,480 - Another question has to be and have found two already. 427 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,030 Just stand here five minutes. 428 00:20:20,030 --> 00:20:22,120 How many would you find outside? 429 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,673 I mean, has there been a study done? 430 00:20:23,673 --> 00:20:25,477 Have there been studies done to prove 431 00:20:25,477 --> 00:20:30,383 that this is particular to crop patterns, crop circles? 432 00:20:31,913 --> 00:20:36,480 - There have been that nodes found outside the crop. 433 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:37,333 - All right. 434 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:43,500 - Particularly on these, on the runways. 435 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:44,440 - Yeah, travel ways. 436 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,730 - Where the crop has been knocked down perhaps 437 00:20:47,730 --> 00:20:49,900 by the tractor going through 438 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:52,140 and then the crop sort of growing back up. 439 00:20:52,140 --> 00:20:53,430 - Right. 440 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:54,903 - Up towards the sunlight. 441 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:59,590 But the difference with these type of one 442 00:20:59,590 --> 00:21:01,421 is that chemical changing the wheat. 443 00:21:01,421 --> 00:21:02,770 - [Interviewer] Right. 444 00:21:02,770 --> 00:21:03,603 - [Narrator] As opposed to. 445 00:21:03,603 --> 00:21:05,740 So there is a natural phenomenon of this. 446 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:06,573 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 447 00:21:06,573 --> 00:21:09,810 - [Narrator] Okay, but there are specific things 448 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:11,117 about the ones you find in the crop 449 00:21:11,117 --> 00:21:13,730 that's just, you know, it's only just been laid, 450 00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:16,460 it hasn't been there like for a while 451 00:21:16,460 --> 00:21:18,430 and the crop's going back up. 452 00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:22,126 These could be found in a crop that's only just come down. 453 00:21:22,126 --> 00:21:24,543 (calm music) 454 00:21:31,768 --> 00:21:34,870 - Over those 11 years unmoved there's been like a number of 455 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:38,910 like bizarre encounter a strange kind of encounters effects 456 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:41,660 on technologies, on myself et cetera. 457 00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:44,840 First of all with the technology cameras 458 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,690 and electrical devices have regularly failed. 459 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:49,840 You might have gone into formations with a camera 460 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,400 which is at a fully charged battery pack, 461 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,930 and like walked into a formation, switched it on 462 00:21:54,930 --> 00:21:57,870 and the battery flattens like there, 463 00:21:57,870 --> 00:21:59,630 you know, like literally in moments 464 00:21:59,630 --> 00:22:01,960 where you've got maybe 90 minutes of recording 465 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,100 or photographing capacity 466 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,440 and that virtually I've walked out of the formation 467 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,950 and it's been fine, 468 00:22:07,950 --> 00:22:10,100 and I walk back in and the battery is dead. 469 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:14,000 To me it kind of suggested that there was some kind 470 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,820 of residual electromagnetic field present, 471 00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:19,240 and that was interfacing with the devices 472 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,460 and this doesn't really happen all the time. 473 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:23,325 It seems quite random almost. 474 00:22:23,325 --> 00:22:25,310 You know I haven't had like any problems in crop circles 475 00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:27,210 with cameras for a couple of years at least. 476 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:29,860 However, you know, I mean this year for instance, 477 00:22:29,860 --> 00:22:32,890 I lend somebody my video camera to take into a formation 478 00:22:32,890 --> 00:22:35,560 and exactly the same thing happened, 479 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,670 my battery pack on that camera was failing 480 00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:41,090 for no apparent reason but it did fail. 481 00:22:41,090 --> 00:22:44,670 I've actually had still cameras informations 482 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:46,780 where I've been trying to take pictures 483 00:22:46,780 --> 00:22:47,613 and I would switch to camera on 484 00:22:47,613 --> 00:22:50,440 and it would switch itself off. 485 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,070 Zoom would be coming in and out. 486 00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:53,510 It would just be doing its own thing, 487 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:54,543 you know, like bizarre you know. 488 00:22:54,543 --> 00:22:57,360 It becomes like bizarre kind of you just standing 489 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,193 there with your camera, 490 00:22:58,193 --> 00:23:00,173 "What the hell is going on with this," you know. 491 00:23:01,220 --> 00:23:03,370 So, and those, I mean I've heard of, you know, 492 00:23:03,370 --> 00:23:04,720 I've spoken to farmers who have told me 493 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,667 about tractors break down in circle 494 00:23:06,667 --> 00:23:08,540 and they wouldn't have been harvesting the field, 495 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:10,790 you know what it's like 200,000 pound harvester 496 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:13,430 that just breaks down inside the circle. 497 00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:16,400 That's a part of recorded history of the phenomenon 498 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,470 and also physiological effects on the individual. 499 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:22,190 I mean, all those 11 years obviously 500 00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:23,920 after going in hundreds of circles, 501 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,430 most of the time there's no real feeling of, 502 00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:29,160 you know, when tries to do 503 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,750 this in an objective, sensible way in an attempt 504 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:33,290 to get to the basic facts, 505 00:23:33,290 --> 00:23:34,960 the truth of the matter, you know. 506 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,736 We don't need to cloud it with fluffing. 507 00:23:37,736 --> 00:23:39,230 - [Interviewer] Yeah. 508 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:40,460 - [Charles] So, what generally goes down there? 509 00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:45,350 We have an objective positioning 510 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:47,080 and you know, looking for physical damage, 511 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,780 looking for effects on the plants, looking for anything 512 00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:52,780 which might suggest people or physical devices had done it 513 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:56,010 or alternatively, if there isn't any of that 514 00:23:56,010 --> 00:23:58,370 and to say this is exactly how the formation was 515 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:01,930 but during some of that research that time in the circles, 516 00:24:01,930 --> 00:24:06,010 I often have experienced strange effects 517 00:24:06,010 --> 00:24:08,390 where I could feel like really bizarre tingling 518 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:10,330 was running up my arms or legs, 519 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:14,250 you know, really almost kind of like a real subtle cramp, 520 00:24:14,250 --> 00:24:16,000 you know, this is something I cannot explain 521 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,600 whilst in the physical movement. 522 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,120 Headaches, you know, for real I never get headaches, 523 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,280 you know, in normal everyday life. 524 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,000 I just do not get headaches. 525 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,833 - [Interviewer] So, you don't think that's 526 00:24:25,833 --> 00:24:27,190 because you're kind of thinking well. 527 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:29,320 This is a strange place, it's a bit weird 528 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,880 and you kind of actually bringing it 529 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,150 on yourself in any sense. 530 00:24:33,150 --> 00:24:36,040 - Probably not because I would say not anyway 531 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,780 because again, you know, a crop circle to me 532 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:40,180 isn't particularly weird place 533 00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:41,723 coz I've been going into them for so long. 534 00:24:41,723 --> 00:24:44,190 It's kind of almost like going to test gears 535 00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:47,236 is weirder than going to a crop circle for me. 536 00:24:47,236 --> 00:24:49,653 (calm music) 537 00:24:56,210 --> 00:24:58,980 We react physiological to energy, 538 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:02,120 whether it's electrical energy, whether it's radio, 539 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:03,650 whether it's magnetic. 540 00:25:03,650 --> 00:25:06,770 As a physical being we kind of do react to this. 541 00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:07,800 So, it will certainly, 542 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,882 you know, seek quite and that 543 00:25:09,882 --> 00:25:11,750 if you've got equipment like cameras, 544 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:15,460 like tractors reacting, you know, there's every sense 545 00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:17,760 that we're going to do the same that maybe like 546 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,290 we're getting short-circuited at another level. 547 00:25:20,290 --> 00:25:21,540 - [Interviewer] And there is a kind of suggestion 548 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:23,720 and has been postulated quite a few times 549 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,440 that just the actual pattern being there 550 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,480 regardless of how it got there whether it was aliens 551 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,070 or into the lands or people playing 552 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:34,300 but just the fact that there's a physical geometric shape, 553 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,710 in a canvas if you will. 554 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:39,100 There's a disturbance effectively in the crop 555 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:42,510 that in summer sent must create some kind of effect, 556 00:25:42,510 --> 00:25:43,807 you know, just because it's there, 557 00:25:43,807 --> 00:25:46,560 one has to consider all possibilities, all options 558 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,030 at this time because we really 559 00:25:48,030 --> 00:25:50,547 don't have many answers on the table. 560 00:25:50,547 --> 00:25:52,964 (calm music) 561 00:25:59,770 --> 00:26:01,550 - Every human should be inquisitive. 562 00:26:01,550 --> 00:26:04,080 When I first saw these crop circles, 563 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,340 you know, I was researching your effort 564 00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:07,600 and hidden history and suppressed information 565 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,340 the same as we were gonna do to it to agree or another, 566 00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:12,090 and, you know, even though I was living... 567 00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:13,070 This is 11 years ago. 568 00:26:13,070 --> 00:26:14,160 I was living down in Devon. 569 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,530 This is 130 miles away, pretty close 570 00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:18,130 but I was largely unaware of this 571 00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:19,530 because the media never do over, 572 00:26:19,530 --> 00:26:22,400 you know, in any kind of serious or objective way. 573 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,000 So, I was largely unaware of it. 574 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,065 I had seen the small circles on the TV when I was a child. 575 00:26:27,065 --> 00:26:27,898 - Yeah. 576 00:26:27,898 --> 00:26:29,420 - It kind of mystified as a child would be 577 00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:32,000 but and that was that. 578 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,210 However, in 96 I bought us, you know, UFO magazine 579 00:26:35,210 --> 00:26:37,310 or some one type or another, 580 00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:39,350 and there was a spread of, in this magazine 581 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:41,050 of that year's crop circles. 582 00:26:41,050 --> 00:26:43,340 It was the circles from 1996. 583 00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:45,400 There was a fractal spiral at Stonehenge. 584 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,460 - Yeah. 585 00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:49,437 - And similar three arms for up to a spiral at 586 00:26:49,437 --> 00:26:51,860 and I saw it isn't right. 587 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:55,170 Okay, like, you know, got a logical brain 588 00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:59,113 and kind of reasonably educated, that's impossible. 589 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:02,220 You've got the A303 in Stonehenge. 590 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:03,365 There's 24-hour guard. 591 00:27:03,365 --> 00:27:04,198 - Yeah. 592 00:27:04,198 --> 00:27:06,410 - And you got 900 foot perhaps in there 593 00:27:06,410 --> 00:27:08,580 which is just, that's a highly technical piece, 594 00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:11,400 you know, to create the fractal spiral, one needs 595 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,620 to create large rectangular boxes 596 00:27:13,620 --> 00:27:15,703 to generate the actual curve, 597 00:27:16,580 --> 00:27:19,080 meaning a massive construction. 598 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,390 That construction area clearly wasn't there in the field. 599 00:27:21,390 --> 00:27:24,550 The whole pattern looks singular and perfect 600 00:27:24,550 --> 00:27:26,980 by the itself right next to Stonehenge. 601 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:29,660 That required an inquisitive person to check it out, 602 00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:31,650 you know, I'm just as a matter of course 603 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:34,150 and if one could happily conclude that that was hoaxed 604 00:27:34,150 --> 00:27:35,670 or very cleverly done by people, 605 00:27:35,670 --> 00:27:38,403 I mean that would have been the end of my crop circles story 606 00:27:38,403 --> 00:27:39,760 that the evidence... 607 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,860 When we looked at the capabilities of Doug and Dave 608 00:27:42,860 --> 00:27:46,430 or whomever, relative to the fractal geometry 609 00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:47,263 which was happening, 610 00:27:47,263 --> 00:27:50,870 there was clearly a massive, massive gulf between 611 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:53,130 what was there on the ground 612 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:55,210 and what these people were claiming. 613 00:27:55,210 --> 00:27:56,820 - [Interviewer] Well, when they first came out of the closet 614 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:57,990 as it were, they were claiming 615 00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:00,280 that they've got a couple of planks 616 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,070 with some ropes and a ping-pong ball hanging on 617 00:28:03,070 --> 00:28:04,400 the front of their hair. 618 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,600 They're doing this all in dark creating these 619 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,180 and it was literally time 620 00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:10,090 the patterns started changing, wasn't that? 621 00:28:10,090 --> 00:28:11,610 We would have some of the circles, 622 00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:13,904 We had some of the insectagrams 623 00:28:13,904 --> 00:28:15,850 and all of a sudden things got complicated. 624 00:28:15,850 --> 00:28:17,880 - The whole phenomena seemed to kind of mushroom 625 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,110 and all of a sudden we're getting 626 00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:23,420 these massive, expressive patterns incorporating 627 00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:28,420 very ancient symbolism, very deep meaningful things 628 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,020 to indigenous persons from all over the world. 629 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:33,890 It seemed as if the system, the media, 630 00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:37,070 the government, somebody they've got to get a lid on this 631 00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:39,480 because really people are really starting to pay attention 632 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,000 The first major, very large pictogram formation happened 633 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,560 down at Alton Barnes, Eastville. 634 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,470 - Yeah. 635 00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:48,970 - Just where this new formations happen literally. 636 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:53,010 There were thousands and thousands of people down there 637 00:28:53,010 --> 00:28:56,300 because it got some pretty heady media attention 638 00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:57,290 in the early days. 639 00:28:57,290 --> 00:29:00,180 They didn't all of a sudden jump on it's gotta be a hoax 640 00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:03,070 because we don't understand it therefore it must be a hoax. 641 00:29:03,070 --> 00:29:05,090 There wasn't any of that at that time. 642 00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:06,090 Thousands and thousand 643 00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:08,990 and it looked like the whole thing was gonna blow up, 644 00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:12,180 and get serious international attention or something 645 00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:14,330 or someone or some element of 646 00:29:14,330 --> 00:29:15,970 the system clearly didn't like that. 647 00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:18,550 And all of a sudden what was a surprise, Doug and Dave 648 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:22,090 of the Jews, knocked down a couple of highly mediocre circle 649 00:29:22,090 --> 00:29:23,240 was for the TV cameras 650 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,610 and it was actually embarrassing what they'd done, 651 00:29:25,610 --> 00:29:26,460 but it was enough. 652 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:29,380 It created an impression pretty much 653 00:29:29,380 --> 00:29:30,980 in international consciousness 654 00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:32,940 and that went around the world in a week. 655 00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:35,120 You know, there are things that happen on this planet 656 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,350 which are truly amazing, 657 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:38,993 which never make it media. 658 00:29:40,368 --> 00:29:45,368 ♪ My path ♪ 659 00:29:45,614 --> 00:29:50,614 ♪ The same as yours ♪ 660 00:29:52,302 --> 00:29:55,802 ♪ Lay down I am long tree ♪ 661 00:30:03,577 --> 00:30:06,710 (background noise draws out dialogue) 662 00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:09,390 - [Narrator] People seem to be drawn for the spirituality 663 00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:14,390 of you like the experience of at space that has been created 664 00:30:16,590 --> 00:30:19,450 out of a natural product. 665 00:30:19,450 --> 00:30:22,400 Other people are drawn by their carrying of wackiness of it 666 00:30:23,764 --> 00:30:25,570 and other people drawn by the science of it. 667 00:30:25,570 --> 00:30:27,850 The what's going on there kind of thing. 668 00:30:27,850 --> 00:30:30,263 All of those aspects interest me. 669 00:30:32,350 --> 00:30:37,090 So, having, you know, work for so long in this field 670 00:30:37,090 --> 00:30:38,673 as a psychic artist, 671 00:30:41,259 --> 00:30:42,926 I'm aware that there are beings 672 00:30:42,926 --> 00:30:44,480 that exist in other dimensions. 673 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,040 - [Interviewer] A lot of people talk about channeling. 674 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,210 We talk about it with respect 675 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:48,820 to where we get some music from. 676 00:30:48,820 --> 00:30:49,922 - All right. 677 00:30:49,922 --> 00:30:50,755 - Where people get their books from, 678 00:30:50,755 --> 00:30:52,631 where people get their art from. 679 00:30:52,631 --> 00:30:55,540 And it seems that we kind of draw on maybe the universe, 680 00:30:55,540 --> 00:30:59,180 maybe the world, maybe nature something else to go, 681 00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:02,700 is maybe something similar happening here 682 00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:06,177 that there is a kind of way to know. 683 00:31:06,177 --> 00:31:09,400 The nature of work, workforce of work something like that. 684 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,700 I think that's very likely. 685 00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:14,373 I mean the Earth itself is a living conscious being. 686 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,770 It could be the Earth choosing to communicate with us 687 00:31:18,770 --> 00:31:21,260 in a way that we would relate to, 688 00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:25,110 I mean personally I am open to all the possibilities 689 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:29,650 because as I'm aware that there are these other dimensions 690 00:31:29,650 --> 00:31:34,113 of reality which quantum physicists now also acknowledge. 691 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:37,330 We use the word spirit world 692 00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:40,969 but they might use the term a multi-dimensional universe 693 00:31:40,969 --> 00:31:45,969 into dimensional levels of being and therefore, 694 00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:48,040 to me it's quite feasible 695 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,590 that there are beings growing in those other dimensions 696 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:54,650 and that we communicate with them on a conscious 697 00:31:54,650 --> 00:31:58,870 to consciousness level and using a picture 698 00:31:58,870 --> 00:32:02,610 or a pictorial image is a bit similar to like, 699 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:04,270 you know, the idea of the, 700 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:05,210 (background noise draws out dialogue) 701 00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:07,560 that the Indians use to meditate. 702 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,240 Here, is a specific shape. 703 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,230 It's geometric and it tunes you into universal consciousness 704 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:17,050 and I really feel that that's a very large part of 705 00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:21,280 what some of these images are even if we don't understand it 706 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,840 from a scientific perspective. 707 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,090 Just by seeing the image. 708 00:32:26,441 --> 00:32:27,890 - A picture speaks a thousand words. 709 00:32:27,890 --> 00:32:30,240 - It communicates your attitude level, 710 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,620 you get what you and someone else might get something else. 711 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:38,770 There is this multi-dimensional aspect. 712 00:32:38,770 --> 00:32:42,050 That's what draws me out like the whole concept. 713 00:32:42,050 --> 00:32:43,167 All those and ideas. 714 00:32:44,987 --> 00:32:47,404 (calm music) 715 00:32:54,871 --> 00:32:59,000 - Back in 1999, donut Milk Hill white horse 716 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,970 just near Alton Barnes, 717 00:32:59,970 --> 00:33:02,060 there was a formation in oilseed rape 718 00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:04,810 and I decided to spend the night in that formation. 719 00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:07,170 A night after actually occurred I arrived. 720 00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:09,860 Another time I stay away from my partner 721 00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:11,520 and a friend of ours, 722 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,540 so, those two decided to spend their night or work 723 00:33:15,540 --> 00:33:17,500 on the Milk Hill white horse. 724 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,090 Around about between 11:30 and 12:00, 725 00:33:20,090 --> 00:33:23,040 for some kind of some things in to descend over the circle, 726 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,820 I could not hear the cars 727 00:33:24,820 --> 00:33:27,630 on the road, the farmers' vehicles. 728 00:33:27,630 --> 00:33:30,440 It was really odd and about a minute or so 729 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,350 after this whole kind of effect took place, 730 00:33:34,350 --> 00:33:38,370 this large orb of light about the size of a beach ball, 731 00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:39,880 you know, it was pretty big 732 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,060 like just appeared right there, right in front of me 733 00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:43,893 inside the circle. 734 00:33:43,893 --> 00:33:46,880 It sort of lit from the inside lighting up the ground 735 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,430 around it and it seems and it was just hanging there 736 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:51,200 above the ground. 737 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,050 That stayed in place for about one minute 738 00:33:53,050 --> 00:33:55,250 and then it just faded out to nothing 739 00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:57,070 over the course of a few seconds. 740 00:33:57,070 --> 00:33:58,200 And then the following morning, 741 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,510 my partner comes into the formation 742 00:34:00,510 --> 00:34:04,060 with a friend and before I say anything, 743 00:34:04,060 --> 00:34:05,440 she said that we saw 744 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,470 from our position up on the white horse, 745 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:10,470 an orb of light comes streaking across the field 746 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:12,950 across the top of the crop which was six feet high, 747 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:16,240 and deep down into the crop circle where you were. 748 00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:17,400 If you're a farmer and you go 749 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,250 to the police of our crop circle, 750 00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:20,140 you know, they'll record it 751 00:34:20,140 --> 00:34:22,893 as criminal damage, end of story. 752 00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:25,527 Which is really curious because, 753 00:34:25,527 --> 00:34:27,310 you know, again the evidence 754 00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:29,550 just does not fit any criminal damage theory. 755 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:32,290 And when you kind of take tentatively all of these pieces 756 00:34:32,290 --> 00:34:34,520 and put them together including a kind of a 757 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,150 what seems to be a kind of interest 758 00:34:36,150 --> 00:34:38,200 from some element of the system, 759 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,863 the government, the authorities. 760 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,310 Clearly, there's something else going on here. 761 00:34:43,310 --> 00:34:46,740 Even in multitude worth of mechanisms 762 00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:49,890 or that there isn't an answer yet that will explain all of 763 00:34:49,890 --> 00:34:51,550 these different angles. 764 00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:53,360 After 10 years of research, 765 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,560 you know, 10 years of intimately looking at the circles, 766 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,390 looking at the maths, the physics, the science, the evidence 767 00:35:00,390 --> 00:35:03,640 in general, there is no kind of litmus test 768 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,056 that is saying this is a genuine crop circle and that's not. 769 00:35:08,056 --> 00:35:10,983 You know, is nowhere near as simple as that at all. 770 00:35:12,670 --> 00:35:13,710 The best one can really, 771 00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:16,640 you know, 11 years later I got more questions and answers, 772 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,480 you know, I thought it was gonna be very simple. 773 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,950 I thought I'd come over here to Wiltshire, 774 00:35:19,950 --> 00:35:22,400 I'd have a look at a circle or two, 775 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,130 I'd find out it was man-made or it was something else 776 00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:25,963 and that would be that. 777 00:35:25,963 --> 00:35:27,924 And I'd go back home to Devon 778 00:35:27,924 --> 00:35:30,090 and I would do my thing. 779 00:35:30,090 --> 00:35:33,900 Instead, you know, I came here, I stayed here 780 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:36,700 and I'm still here 11 years later amongst other things 781 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,240 but still trying to figure this out. 782 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,890 How could this be possible? 783 00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:41,060 Inside this formation, 784 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:44,020 we clearly have a physical construction method 785 00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:46,840 that makes sense to our basic logic, 786 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,460 but the evidence on the ground suggests that 787 00:35:49,460 --> 00:35:51,230 this is not a physical construction 788 00:35:51,230 --> 00:35:53,450 because there's no physical construction traces, 789 00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:56,360 and with the video footage and the surrounding events 790 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,780 of that night of this particular formation, 791 00:35:58,780 --> 00:36:03,270 the idea of human construction it's effectively impossible, 792 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:05,930 even though people have claimed to have made this formation 793 00:36:05,930 --> 00:36:09,330 as they claim to make effectively all formations, 794 00:36:09,330 --> 00:36:12,590 you know, the day after this formation emerged, 795 00:36:12,590 --> 00:36:13,713 a group of people who live in 796 00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:16,030 that particular area, come forward 797 00:36:16,030 --> 00:36:17,280 and said, "Yes, we made that." 798 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,560 We started at 10:30 in the evening, 799 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,930 we finished it at four o'clock in the morning 800 00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:24,527 and, you know, I could go out 801 00:36:24,527 --> 00:36:26,603 and I could claim that I started this. 802 00:36:26,603 --> 00:36:27,436 - Absolutely. 803 00:36:27,436 --> 00:36:28,269 - You know, anybody could. 804 00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:31,586 So, a claim in itself is nowhere near good enough. 805 00:36:31,586 --> 00:36:34,003 (calm music) 806 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,730 - We used to spend a lot of nights in crop circle 807 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:46,150 and as I said there's one particular crop circle 808 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,762 kind of a about a year, 809 00:36:48,762 --> 00:36:52,710 I think it was 1997 and we all went to sleep 810 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:53,780 by one o'clock in the morning, 811 00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:55,450 even the dog which was unusual 812 00:36:55,450 --> 00:36:57,940 but normally it would be pacing around, chasing rabbits 813 00:36:57,940 --> 00:36:59,270 and doing its thing. 814 00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:01,500 We woke up at six o'clock the next morning. 815 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:03,400 There was a formation of 400 feet long 816 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,953 in a field right next to us. 817 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,470 You know, I could possibly imagine that we could have slept 818 00:37:11,470 --> 00:37:13,870 through something going on next to us 819 00:37:13,870 --> 00:37:15,260 but with a dog no way. 820 00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:17,150 We are so heavily conditioned, 821 00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:18,970 you know, from the moment we're born basically 822 00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:20,520 we're conditioned to believe 823 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,430 in very particular, narrow ways. 824 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:24,263 What's right? 825 00:37:24,263 --> 00:37:25,096 What's wrong? 826 00:37:25,096 --> 00:37:26,470 What's real and what's unreal? 827 00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:28,570 And, you know, so I guess animals 828 00:37:28,570 --> 00:37:30,140 they don't have the cultural conditioning 829 00:37:30,140 --> 00:37:32,460 to a degree that we do, you know, that's why 830 00:37:33,330 --> 00:37:35,177 - We're conditioned to block it out as well 831 00:37:35,177 --> 00:37:37,260 but as it becomes useless for us 832 00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:39,470 within this fast-paced world, 833 00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:42,090 within the world of Tesco Morrisons getting to work 834 00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:46,793 and back in seven hours, you know, too much information. 835 00:37:48,070 --> 00:37:50,040 - In a sense you can kind of understand 836 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,190 that many people may not want to accept the reality 837 00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:54,960 that something's going on here because ultimately 838 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,380 it would need a reappraise or spoil everything 839 00:37:57,380 --> 00:37:58,260 we've ever learned, 840 00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:01,320 but this isn't happening for no good reason, 841 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,690 you know, and when you look at the implications 842 00:38:04,690 --> 00:38:09,550 or some of the designs, you know, very, very ancient designs 843 00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:12,630 which relate directly to the state of human consciousness 844 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:15,060 at this time on our planet, you know, 845 00:38:15,060 --> 00:38:17,850 it could be something really important happening here. 846 00:38:17,850 --> 00:38:20,100 It's being largely marginalized or ignored 847 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:23,310 just because people are over, you know, in the media 848 00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:26,879 or even too lazy or too scared or too controlled, 849 00:38:26,879 --> 00:38:28,310 and I don't know what. 850 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:31,227 (mysterious music) 851 00:40:15,797 --> 00:40:20,797 ♪ The morning light now has risen ♪ 852 00:40:23,731 --> 00:40:28,731 ♪ Distance still you taste the storm ♪ 853 00:40:31,397 --> 00:40:36,397 ♪ Now got wings to leave darkest memories ♪ 854 00:40:39,873 --> 00:40:43,873 ♪ Shadows lost much to a whole ♪ 855 00:41:28,014 --> 00:41:30,931 (mysterious music) 856 00:42:04,278 --> 00:42:06,861 (upbeat music) 68060

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