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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,830 Yeah. I mean, that was just a sort of 2 00:00:19,910 --> 00:00:21,750 a really stressful time in my life. 3 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:25,410 So like it is. Makes me have like a lot of anxiety, but... 4 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:26,830 it did happen. 5 00:00:26,910 --> 00:00:28,040 So I guess you do have to talk about it. 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,540 Welcome to Phi Phi House! Come on in! 7 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:35,290 Okay. 8 00:00:35,370 --> 00:00:38,500 Reporter: Recent allegations of racial segregation 9 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:41,000 in sororities at the University of Alabama 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,040 continue to send shockwaves throughout the nation. 11 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:46,950 I'm in the South now [bleep]. 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,790 The N word was written in chalk all over campus. 13 00:00:49,870 --> 00:00:54,290 A cross was burned on the lawn at a Black sorority. 14 00:00:54,370 --> 00:00:58,000 A secret society that is powerful and some say ruthless. 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,790 It is called "The Machine." 16 00:00:59,870 --> 00:01:02,620 Most of the fraternities and sororities at the university 17 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:04,250 are in "The Machine." 18 00:01:04,330 --> 00:01:08,200 "The Machine" is very much focused on White supremacy. 19 00:01:08,290 --> 00:01:11,290 They're paved with a level of impunity that suggests 20 00:01:11,370 --> 00:01:14,660 that they think that they'll always get away with it. 21 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:17,450 There are policies on the books that said that 22 00:01:17,540 --> 00:01:20,660 "We will not take people of color." 23 00:01:20,700 --> 00:01:23,700 "The Machine" continues to hold that stranglehold on power. 24 00:01:23,790 --> 00:01:26,160 I am 58 years old. 25 00:01:26,250 --> 00:01:27,620 Why am I still afraid of them? 26 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:29,580 That's what a cult can do. 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,040 Not on the record. 28 00:01:37,660 --> 00:01:39,370 [cheering] 29 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:42,540 There's no place in the world that is more exciting 30 00:01:42,620 --> 00:01:45,290 or thrilling than sororities and fraternities. 31 00:01:45,370 --> 00:01:48,160 But you don't know what actually goes on behind closed doors. 32 00:01:48,250 --> 00:01:52,120 All of Greek life has some sort of a tradition of secrecy. 33 00:01:54,410 --> 00:01:57,330 This was a powerful organization. 34 00:01:57,410 --> 00:01:59,450 I mean, it was a serious cover-up. 35 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:06,660 The amount of power that the fraternities have, 36 00:02:06,700 --> 00:02:10,290 it's so thoroughly woven into the nature of the universities. 37 00:02:10,290 --> 00:02:12,830 There is always the same playbook. 38 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:16,000 Operator: 911. What is the address of your emergency? 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,330 They start the cover-up. Nobody talks. 40 00:02:18,370 --> 00:02:21,910 Hazing is a huge problem, 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,620 and it's resulted in tragedy. 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,450 Someone was burning a cross on the lawn. 43 00:02:28,540 --> 00:02:30,700 They would grab a member, force their face down 44 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:32,410 and then make them do a line of cocaine. 45 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:36,250 It felt very sadistic. He wanted me to be hurting. 46 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:38,750 You send your kid off to college, 47 00:02:38,830 --> 00:02:41,160 and this happens? 48 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,160 My name is Melody Zeidan. 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,290 I'm from a really small town in Alabama called Camden. 50 00:03:00,370 --> 00:03:02,500 I was quite a good student growing up. 51 00:03:02,620 --> 00:03:04,200 I was always one year ahead of my classmates, 52 00:03:04,290 --> 00:03:05,870 for the most part. 53 00:03:05,950 --> 00:03:09,040 So I graduated from high school right before I turned 17. 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,870 When I started at the University of Alabama in the fall of 2000, 55 00:03:13,950 --> 00:03:18,370 everything evolved around campus and social life and fitting in. 56 00:03:20,830 --> 00:03:23,000 The buildings are very stately. 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,500 They're sort of this big, beautiful quad 58 00:03:25,540 --> 00:03:28,250 in the middle of campus where people hang out. 59 00:03:28,330 --> 00:03:31,540 And Greek Row is a big part of campus. 60 00:03:31,660 --> 00:03:35,910 It's almost as important to the university as football is. 61 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:42,080 The Greek houses at Alabama are really something to behold. 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,580 The scale is just astonishing. 63 00:03:46,910 --> 00:03:49,620 It's impossible not to come away with the impression that 64 00:03:49,700 --> 00:03:51,870 "Oh, these are the people here who matter. 65 00:03:51,950 --> 00:03:55,450 These are the people who are important to this university." 66 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:59,660 But sororities have one way a woman can be, 67 00:03:59,790 --> 00:04:03,750 which is white, pretty, rich, and well behaved. 68 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:07,660 I feel like when you start learning the details, 69 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:11,620 they're not so pretty parts show through. 70 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:15,500 The school started in the mid-1800s 71 00:04:15,580 --> 00:04:18,160 and is steeped in the tradition of the old South 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,290 in a lot of ways. 73 00:04:20,370 --> 00:04:24,500 In 1963, several Black students attempted to enroll 74 00:04:24,580 --> 00:04:26,250 in the University of Alabama. 75 00:04:26,330 --> 00:04:28,580 There was a large anti-segregation 76 00:04:28,660 --> 00:04:31,250 in education movement happening across the country. 77 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:34,330 George Wallace, who was the governor at that time, 78 00:04:34,410 --> 00:04:35,830 said, I believe his words were... 79 00:04:35,910 --> 00:04:37,750 Segregation now, 80 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:39,750 segregation tomorrow, 81 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:41,660 and segregation forever. 82 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:44,250 [cheering] 83 00:04:45,830 --> 00:04:49,870 He very famously stood in the doors of Foster Auditorium, 84 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,500 and he refused to allow those students entry 85 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:55,950 to enroll in classes back at the University of Alabama. 86 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,870 Man: The choice is yours. 87 00:04:59,660 --> 00:05:02,250 There's a long history of racial incidents on campus, 88 00:05:02,330 --> 00:05:04,250 and the Greek life, the recruitment process 89 00:05:04,330 --> 00:05:06,290 has a tremendously long way to go. 90 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:10,330 There've been a number of instances in recent years 91 00:05:10,450 --> 00:05:14,000 in which students have put vile racist statements 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,870 on social media. 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,790 In 2014, a Chi Omega pledge 94 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:25,000 put a snap on Snapchat that proclaimed 95 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,120 that Chi Omega has no N word. 96 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,160 Also in 2018,a member of Alpha Pi 97 00:05:33,250 --> 00:05:36,330 posted on the internet a video 98 00:05:36,410 --> 00:05:38,910 of her saying that she hates... 99 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,250 Woman: I love how I act like I love Black people 100 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:43,330 because [bleep] hate... 101 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:45,830 I know someone that's... [indistinct] 102 00:05:45,910 --> 00:05:48,870 'cause I said [bleep]. You know what? [bleep]. 103 00:05:48,950 --> 00:05:51,500 I don't care if it's Martin Luther King Day. 104 00:05:51,620 --> 00:05:53,160 [bleep]. 105 00:05:53,250 --> 00:05:55,330 I'm in the South now, [bleep]. 106 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,790 When I stepped onto campus, 107 00:05:58,790 --> 00:06:01,700 obviously I noticed that there were 108 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,870 more White women in these traditionally... 109 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:06,660 White sororities. 110 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:09,790 But it didn't occur to me that there were no non-White women. 111 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:14,750 I saw the Greek houses and thought, "Oh, yes. 112 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:16,950 "This is where the friends are made. 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,620 Excellent. Let's get involved with that." 114 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:22,410 As a bright-eyed freshman, 115 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:25,370 I was just looking for girls to hang out with. 116 00:06:25,450 --> 00:06:28,410 Race wasn't on my radar. 117 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,290 As a woman who has been accepted to the university, 118 00:06:31,370 --> 00:06:35,040 in the senior year of high school, you fill out 119 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,080 sort of an intent to rush. 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 And it's a multi-step process. 121 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,410 The rush process is eight days. 122 00:06:42,500 --> 00:06:45,700 So there's a convocation where they bring everyone 123 00:06:45,790 --> 00:06:49,370 into the Coliseum, we find out your Rho Chi group. 124 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,500 The first two days are what they call ice water tease, 125 00:06:57,620 --> 00:07:01,910 which is where everybody has a chance to visit every sorority. 126 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,830 You wait outside and the doors open, 127 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:09,330 and there are a hundred of the most beautiful, 128 00:07:09,410 --> 00:07:11,750 glamourous women that you have ever seen 129 00:07:11,830 --> 00:07:14,000 screaming their door songs. 130 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,580 We've been waiting for you all summer, 131 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:19,450 and we're so glad you're finally here! 132 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:21,790 [cheering] 133 00:07:23,620 --> 00:07:25,750 [chanting, indistinct] 134 00:07:31,330 --> 00:07:34,620 Welcome to Phi Phi House! Come on in! 135 00:07:35,540 --> 00:07:37,160 After the first round, 136 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:41,000 you list the sororities that you want to be a part of. 137 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,330 And similarly, the sororities are choosing 138 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:44,870 who they want to be a part of. 139 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:47,830 Your list is significantly cut the first day. 140 00:07:47,910 --> 00:07:51,580 It's cut down to probably, like, between seven and ten. 141 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:53,290 And then you go home and you agonize 142 00:07:53,370 --> 00:07:55,290 over which one to choose. 143 00:07:55,370 --> 00:07:57,500 It's... It's intense. 144 00:07:57,620 --> 00:08:00,370 On Bid Day, you wake up bright and early, 145 00:08:00,450 --> 00:08:03,250 and you head to Bryant-Denny Stadium. 146 00:08:03,370 --> 00:08:05,500 Everybody was given a manila envelope 147 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:08,500 with your name on it, and at the same time, 148 00:08:08,580 --> 00:08:11,000 everybody opens up their envelopes, 149 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,660 and you have a card inviting you to join that sorority. 150 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:19,750 They make you feel like there's no place in the world 151 00:08:19,870 --> 00:08:21,910 that is more exciting, more thrilling, 152 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,540 and that you will be as beautiful and glamorous 153 00:08:24,620 --> 00:08:27,410 and fun as they are. 154 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:30,700 When I was rushing, I thought... 155 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:33,080 obviously I'm going to get a bid. 156 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,500 I mean, I've got good grades, 157 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:37,450 I get along well with people. 158 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:39,830 I mean, why wouldn't I? 159 00:08:39,910 --> 00:08:43,540 But then I got a call from my Roi Chi, as they were called, 160 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:45,370 and she said, "I'm sorry. 161 00:08:45,450 --> 00:08:49,080 You haven't been invited to any houses for the third round." 162 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,370 I never heard any reason for why I was dropped. 163 00:08:52,450 --> 00:08:54,080 It was just, "I'm sorry. 164 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,540 All of the houses have released you from rush." 165 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:01,290 A friend of my boyfriend at the time 166 00:09:01,370 --> 00:09:03,750 came up to me and said, "Hey, 167 00:09:03,830 --> 00:09:05,370 "didn't you rush the White sorority? 168 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:06,660 "Why did you do that? 169 00:09:06,700 --> 00:09:09,040 You know they don't take Black people, right?" 170 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,950 I thought, "What?" 171 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,950 I was just astonished. 172 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,830 I was like, surely that's not right. That can't be right. 173 00:09:16,910 --> 00:09:19,620 I mean, it's the year 2000. 174 00:09:20,830 --> 00:09:23,160 And that was when someone told me about 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,500 what they call "The Machine." 176 00:09:25,580 --> 00:09:28,200 And things started to make sense to me. 177 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:32,580 A secret society that is powerful 178 00:09:32,660 --> 00:09:34,330 and some say ruthless. 179 00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:36,950 It is called "The Machine." 180 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,580 "The Machine" is a secret group of White students who seek 181 00:09:41,660 --> 00:09:45,290 to influence the student body government election. 182 00:09:45,370 --> 00:09:48,250 Student government at the University of Alabama 183 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:49,950 originates through Greek life. 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,040 There was a band of fraternities that established it. 185 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:58,910 They created a secret group to run it called Theta Nu Epsilon. 186 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Theta Nu Epsilon got its start 187 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,700 as a national Greek organization. 188 00:10:03,790 --> 00:10:07,410 In the 1880s, a chapter of them was founded 189 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:08,830 at the University of Alabama 190 00:10:08,910 --> 00:10:12,500 which was later titled "The Machine." 191 00:10:12,620 --> 00:10:15,500 You find the fingerprints of "The Machine" 192 00:10:15,580 --> 00:10:19,660 on any given political and social structure. 193 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:21,410 Those individuals who are elected 194 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,000 to student body government positions 195 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,160 get internships on Capitol Hill, 196 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:28,660 become senators from the state of Alabama. 197 00:10:28,750 --> 00:10:34,000 So you have this direct pipeline into real political power. 198 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,500 But the real harm of "The Machine" 199 00:10:37,580 --> 00:10:40,870 come from institutionalized racism. 200 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:44,040 The Greek system and "The Machine" 201 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,950 have always functioned to some degree 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,500 as a means of sort of protecting the social class 203 00:10:50,540 --> 00:10:51,830 that engages with it. 204 00:10:51,870 --> 00:10:53,870 You don't think... 205 00:10:53,950 --> 00:10:56,910 "We're White, so we deserve to be on top." 206 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,080 You think, "We're White, so we are on top. 207 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,290 That is the way the world was created." 208 00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:07,750 The goal is to maintain that hegemonic power. 209 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:10,500 These are people who would resort to just about anything 210 00:11:10,580 --> 00:11:13,000 to get their way... 211 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,620 and demonstrate that they can punish those who defy them. 212 00:11:29,830 --> 00:11:31,500 When I was rushing, 213 00:11:31,540 --> 00:11:34,160 "The Machine" wasn't on my radar. 214 00:11:34,250 --> 00:11:36,750 I had this GPA. 215 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:40,200 I have all the qualifications that I need. 216 00:11:40,330 --> 00:11:44,120 The only thing that I have is an excess of melanin 217 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,330 to disqualify me. 218 00:11:48,370 --> 00:11:51,750 'Cause I had more conversations about this entire process 219 00:11:51,830 --> 00:11:54,000 with people who were outside of the Greek system. 220 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,450 It seemed as though I was dropped from rush 221 00:11:57,540 --> 00:11:59,000 because of my race, 222 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 and "The Machine" was part of that. 223 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:06,040 To understand where "The Machine" came from, 224 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,410 you have to understand where Alabama was in 1901. 225 00:12:12,250 --> 00:12:14,700 After the Civil War, 226 00:12:14,790 --> 00:12:17,750 after Black people gained political clout, 227 00:12:17,830 --> 00:12:19,950 essentially the White people of Alabama said, 228 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,160 "This is crazy, this is wrong, we can't do this." 229 00:12:22,250 --> 00:12:26,200 So in 1901, they wrote a constitution 230 00:12:26,290 --> 00:12:28,080 for the specific purpose 231 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,080 of codifying White supremacy into law. 232 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:37,830 "The Machine" was formed at the University of Alabama 233 00:12:37,910 --> 00:12:42,000 for the specific purpose also of maintaining 234 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,290 the status quo to keep wealthy White people 235 00:12:46,370 --> 00:12:50,910 in control of government, in business, and beyond. 236 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,910 Narrator: Many a governor or senator 237 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,790 has been born in the dorms and sidewalks of Tuscaloosa. 238 00:12:55,870 --> 00:12:58,870 Yet all but a few have owed their success in part 239 00:12:58,870 --> 00:13:01,500 to a tradition of membership in a powerful, secret 240 00:13:01,540 --> 00:13:04,500 all-White political machine. 241 00:13:04,540 --> 00:13:06,500 The way it functions now is that 242 00:13:06,540 --> 00:13:09,500 most of the fraternities and sororities at the university 243 00:13:09,540 --> 00:13:10,910 are in "The Machine." 244 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,000 That means they're part of the system. 245 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,080 They have a couple of representatives 246 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,160 from the chapter that are "The Machine" reps. 247 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,830 The term used on campus is "They go underground." 248 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:27,000 No one goes to "The Machine" meetings other than 249 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,370 the representative from each sorority and fraternity. 250 00:13:30,540 --> 00:13:33,370 And the meetings are shrouded in mystery. 251 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,750 People who go are not supposed to talk about 252 00:13:35,830 --> 00:13:37,790 what happens in the meetings. 253 00:13:37,870 --> 00:13:39,870 They didn't want to admit "The Machine" existed. 254 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,200 They still don't. 255 00:13:41,330 --> 00:13:44,330 "The Machine," they decide things. 256 00:13:44,410 --> 00:13:47,830 They decide who the SGA officers are going to be. 257 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:50,160 They decide who the Homecoming Queen is going to be. 258 00:13:50,250 --> 00:13:52,500 They decide who's going to get tapped 259 00:13:52,580 --> 00:13:54,500 into certain honor societies, 260 00:13:54,580 --> 00:13:56,120 which is a big deal at Alabama. 261 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,040 They agree on a slate of candidates, 262 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,290 and they bring back the decision back to their Greek house, 263 00:14:04,370 --> 00:14:07,660 and you're sort of told this is who "we're voting for." 264 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:10,000 For almost every election 265 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,700 regarding campus politics, 266 00:14:12,790 --> 00:14:14,660 it's gonna go to who "The Machine" 267 00:14:14,790 --> 00:14:16,660 has previously delegated. 268 00:14:16,750 --> 00:14:22,330 It serves as a training ground for not just how to do politics, 269 00:14:22,370 --> 00:14:26,160 but how to do politics in a dirty way. 270 00:14:26,250 --> 00:14:29,120 To perpetuate the status quo of who's in power 271 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:30,830 and who is not. 272 00:14:34,580 --> 00:14:36,290 I pledged. 273 00:14:36,370 --> 00:14:39,120 It was a "Machine" sorority, but I mean... 274 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,120 I didn't know at the time. 275 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,870 My boyfriend that I dated in high school 276 00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:48,370 and the beginning of college was a Theta Chi, 277 00:14:48,450 --> 00:14:50,580 and Theta Chi at that time 278 00:14:50,700 --> 00:14:52,250 was trying to get into "The Machine". 279 00:14:52,330 --> 00:14:53,660 So by the time I got to Alabama, 280 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:56,200 I knew a good bit about "The Machine," 281 00:14:56,290 --> 00:14:59,120 although I did not know the history 282 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:05,000 and the more serious side to what "The Machine" is about. 283 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,830 When I was a freshman, 284 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:12,450 and we were going to vote for the SGA offices, 285 00:15:12,540 --> 00:15:16,500 they passed out a list for us to vote for 286 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:19,200 to take to the polls with us. 287 00:15:19,290 --> 00:15:22,330 I still did not see the big picture 288 00:15:22,370 --> 00:15:24,450 of what was going on until I started writing 289 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:27,660 for the "Crimson White" in my junior year. 290 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:31,000 I found out that there was going to be a "Machine" meeting 291 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,040 at one of the fraternity houses. 292 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,000 So we went to stake it out. 293 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,750 People started leaving the building, 294 00:15:39,830 --> 00:15:42,200 and I started recognizing the people. 295 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:45,580 I'm trying to--Start trying to interview them. 296 00:15:45,660 --> 00:15:49,200 And they lost it. 297 00:15:49,330 --> 00:15:51,250 They started leaving by the back door 298 00:15:51,370 --> 00:15:55,330 with raincoats over their heads. 299 00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:59,370 Some of the fraternity guys followed us back to the... 300 00:15:59,450 --> 00:16:01,830 to the "Crimson White" office in their cars 301 00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:06,330 and circled the building for hours. 302 00:16:06,370 --> 00:16:08,870 People involved in "The Machine" 303 00:16:08,950 --> 00:16:11,410 did work so hard to keep it a secret. 304 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:13,370 [car revving] 305 00:16:13,450 --> 00:16:14,700 I felt very unsafe. 306 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:16,040 [ringing] 307 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,910 I got a lot of weird phone calls, 308 00:16:18,910 --> 00:16:20,660 a lot of hang-ups. 309 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:23,870 People quit talking to me, 310 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:25,910 kinda shunned me, 311 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,830 told me I needed to stop writing. 312 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:33,450 And I realized how mad they really were. 313 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:37,330 Meanwhile at the "Crimson White" office, 314 00:16:37,370 --> 00:16:39,950 they had had threats of violence. 315 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,250 It was a real concern 316 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:44,790 that something could happen to you. 317 00:16:44,870 --> 00:16:47,200 And I... I saw it all. 318 00:16:47,290 --> 00:16:49,410 I saw the dirty politics 319 00:16:49,540 --> 00:16:52,120 and the willingness to harm people physically 320 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,290 and just the lengths that people would go to, 321 00:16:56,370 --> 00:16:59,700 to get what they wanted for "The Machine." 322 00:16:59,790 --> 00:17:04,000 In 1992, Minda Riley decided 323 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,620 as a member of a "Machine" sorority, 324 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:11,330 to run for a SGA office, but she was not the person 325 00:17:11,370 --> 00:17:15,080 selected by "The Machine" officers. 326 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,950 So she was challenging the very essence of "The Machine." 327 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,500 It was reported that she was attacked in her house 328 00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:27,870 and stabbed with a knife to dissuade her 329 00:17:27,950 --> 00:17:29,830 from running for office. 330 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:33,000 And that resulted in the shutdown of the SGA, 331 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,330 the Student Government Association, for several years. 332 00:17:35,370 --> 00:17:39,200 "The Machine" has behaved with a level of impunity 333 00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:41,290 that suggests that they think that 334 00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:42,910 they'll always get away with it. 335 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,500 It will do whatever is necessary to maintain 336 00:17:45,540 --> 00:17:47,160 the power that they think they should have, 337 00:17:47,290 --> 00:17:49,290 including racial terror. 338 00:17:52,370 --> 00:17:56,120 In the mid-1980s, a cross was burned 339 00:17:56,250 --> 00:18:01,040 on the lawn of a Black sorority that had been relocated 340 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:05,200 to what was considered the White Sorority Row. 341 00:18:05,290 --> 00:18:09,040 In the South, the KKK 342 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:14,330 used burning crosses as a threat to Black people. 343 00:18:14,370 --> 00:18:17,910 And so for what happened at the AKA house, 344 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,500 it was definitely a threat. 345 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:21,160 "You don't belong here, 346 00:18:21,250 --> 00:18:26,040 and we're willing to try to keep you away." 347 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:29,160 They never found who did it, 348 00:18:29,250 --> 00:18:33,000 but the only people who would be interested 349 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:37,000 in a Black sorority moving onto Sorority Row 350 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,080 would be "Machine" people. 351 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,870 It was an honest expression of what they thought, 352 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:45,450 which was heinous. 353 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,790 "The Machine," I think, over the course of generations 354 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:56,200 has made racial segregation an important part 355 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,120 of its maintaining the status quo. 356 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000 That was especially clear when you look at 357 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,410 who was in the Greek system, 358 00:19:02,540 --> 00:19:06,040 because it's overwhelmingly very White, 359 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,830 and always has been. 360 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:10,950 It's kind of a David and Goliath kind of situation 361 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,700 because of these racial incidents. 362 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,410 They involve Greek life. 363 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:17,290 There's a lot of students from across campus 364 00:19:17,370 --> 00:19:19,120 who would get really angry and be like, 365 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,370 "This is how it's been happening, 366 00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:22,290 and how do we keep looking away?" 367 00:19:22,370 --> 00:19:25,580 But it wasn't until decades later that the racism 368 00:19:25,660 --> 00:19:29,250 was given any attention by the university. 369 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:32,330 This time, people were mad enough. 370 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:41,500 During my sophomore year, 371 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:44,370 there was this big racist event. 372 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:47,500 The N word was written in chalk all over campus. 373 00:19:47,580 --> 00:19:50,500 But that was not the only incident. 374 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,620 One of the common experiences when I was there 375 00:19:52,700 --> 00:19:56,160 was you would get fraternity brothers who were drunk, 376 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,830 tearing around in their pickup truck 377 00:19:57,910 --> 00:20:01,080 yelling racial slurs at Black students who were walking by. 378 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,700 And I had a whole bunch of friends who... 379 00:20:03,790 --> 00:20:05,370 you know, Black folks who were like, 380 00:20:05,450 --> 00:20:07,660 "I don't walk behind Old Row. 381 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:09,660 "I don't want a racial slur screamed at me, 382 00:20:09,790 --> 00:20:12,120 and what if they're drunk enough to do more than that?" 383 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,580 Every time the university would send out an email 384 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:17,080 "We do not condone. 385 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,000 "We have not punished anyone for it, 386 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,000 but we don't condone it." 387 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,370 And that happened over and over and over. 388 00:20:24,450 --> 00:20:26,500 I started seeing, you know, people on campus 389 00:20:26,620 --> 00:20:28,790 bringing up, like, "This is not okay." 390 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:30,330 So there was... 391 00:20:30,370 --> 00:20:32,870 already some momentum with that. 392 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:39,160 In the fall of 2013, there were conversations 393 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,450 that were happening, saying that there were 394 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:44,040 several Black women who were going to rush this year. 395 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,160 There was one woman in particular 396 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:48,330 who seemed particularly well-suited, 397 00:20:48,410 --> 00:20:51,000 and everybody thought, gosh, this might be the year that, 398 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,950 you know, an Old Row sorority integrate. 399 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,660 A Black woman named Kennedi Cobb 400 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:58,290 rushed a pretty prestigious sorority, 401 00:20:58,370 --> 00:21:00,500 and she should have been a shoe-in for it. 402 00:21:00,580 --> 00:21:04,660 She was someone with all the right qualifications. 403 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:08,200 There was no way that not every single sorority 404 00:21:08,290 --> 00:21:10,000 would want this woman. 405 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,330 In my sorority, Alpha Omicron Pi, 406 00:21:12,370 --> 00:21:16,120 there were automatic drops during rush 407 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,000 for certain grade levels. 408 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,120 There were people who would automatically would get moved on 409 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,950 to the next round because she knew somebody who knew somebody. 410 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,580 That was sort of a normal thing. 411 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:30,410 But it was said specifically, "And by the way, 412 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:35,040 "after our philanthropy day, we do grade drops 413 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,500 and we drop Black women." 414 00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:42,000 I tried to speak about my concerns 415 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,910 to the alumna who were there, 416 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:49,250 to the women who we're tasked with managing the rush process. 417 00:21:49,330 --> 00:21:52,160 I was told... 418 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,250 "We're not being racist. 419 00:21:54,330 --> 00:21:56,160 "We don't just not accept Black girls, 420 00:21:56,250 --> 00:21:58,000 we also don't take tall girls." 421 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,120 As if that... 422 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,500 made any difference in any capacity. 423 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,910 My concerns were treated as if... 424 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,250 it was just a small, kind of annoyance that I had had 425 00:22:12,330 --> 00:22:14,660 about the rush process. 426 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:17,000 After the second night of philanthropy 427 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,580 when we had attended to work drops, 428 00:22:19,660 --> 00:22:22,620 the conversation reached sort of an apex. 429 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:25,290 There was a decision made to take a vote 430 00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:29,410 within our sorority, and the vote was... 431 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:33,290 motion to accept Black women in the fall of 2013. 432 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,540 There was a vote taken, and the motion failed, 433 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:44,040 and we ultimately decided, as a sorority, collectively, 434 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:48,000 not to accept Black women... 435 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,700 on purpose. 436 00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:52,830 And I just thought, this is such [bleep] bull [bleep]. 437 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:58,620 I was... viscerally angry. 438 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:02,330 In the days immediately after rush, 439 00:23:02,410 --> 00:23:05,750 a student newspaper journalist, Abbey Crain, 440 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:07,580 was preparing to write about this. 441 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:11,000 All of a sudden, the conversation exploded. 442 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,080 In 2013, 443 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,790 I would say the racial tensions 444 00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:23,200 were definitely becoming more overt. 445 00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:25,660 You could see them, you could hear them. 446 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:30,540 This girl, Kennedi, she's the ideal sorority candidate. 447 00:23:30,660 --> 00:23:33,910 When the day came along, she wasn't there. 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,660 And we were all kinda like, "What? Really?" 449 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:40,620 I was like, I know there's a story here, 450 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:43,750 and I think I can get it. 451 00:23:43,870 --> 00:23:48,250 So I was asking my Greek friends why she didn't get in. 452 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:50,750 And a lot of them cited, 453 00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:55,410 "We won't get invited to parties with the good fraternities." 454 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,870 Or "We may be cut out of 'The Machine.'" 455 00:23:58,950 --> 00:24:02,000 The most striking thing to me was that 456 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,160 all the women we talked to in sororities mentioned alumni. 457 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,580 The amount of power that those alumni bases have is so 458 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:15,290 thoroughly woven into the universities 459 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:17,450 and the Greek system. 460 00:24:17,540 --> 00:24:19,160 Again, it goes back to "The Machine" 461 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,120 because "The Machine" is very much focused on White supremacy. 462 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,000 And they're beholden to the alumni and donor base 463 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,620 because really what the alumni offer is protection 464 00:24:30,750 --> 00:24:33,830 through their financial gifts. 465 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,660 At the end of the day, 466 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:47,790 if the choice is race or money, 467 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:50,700 money always wins. Power always wins. 468 00:24:52,790 --> 00:24:55,620 We decided that we were gonna write this piece. 469 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,540 By that point, it had gotten around. 470 00:24:58,660 --> 00:25:01,830 The publishing process was very intense. 471 00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:04,330 We had sent in what we thought was the final draft, 472 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:08,160 and my co-author got a call from 473 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:11,870 one of the members of one of the governing fraternity councils, 474 00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:14,080 and she said, "I have a check. 475 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,330 How much will it take for you not to publish this?" 476 00:25:17,410 --> 00:25:21,000 A lot of Greek life is PR-ing their way out 477 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,620 of these difficult topics. 478 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:24,330 And I was nervous. 479 00:25:24,410 --> 00:25:26,500 I didn't want them to have that chance. 480 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:33,200 Just on the heels of the 50th anniversary 481 00:25:33,290 --> 00:25:36,370 of Governor George Wallace's stand in the schoolhouse door 482 00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:38,250 comes segregation allegations 483 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,000 on the University of Alabama campus. 484 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:43,870 Recent allegations of racial segregation in sororities 485 00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:46,750 at the University of Alabama continue to send shockwaves 486 00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:48,620 throughout the nation. 487 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:52,790 Abbey Crain and Matthew Ford, two editors of the campus paper, 488 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:54,750 broke the story on Wednesday, 489 00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:57,660 and it is fueling conversation beyond the campus. 490 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:59,540 Even the governor is weighing in. 491 00:25:59,620 --> 00:26:01,580 It's not the students, it's the alumni. 492 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:04,040 Personally, I think they need to change their attitude. 493 00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:07,120 Abbey wrote this article, 494 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,250 and there was talk all over campus about this. 495 00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:12,870 The national news came down. 496 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:15,160 They were knocking on sorority doors. 497 00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:18,160 Sororities were texting me and telling me that 498 00:26:18,290 --> 00:26:19,790 "You don't know what you did." 499 00:26:19,870 --> 00:26:21,830 This was the biggest deal, 500 00:26:21,870 --> 00:26:25,830 to go against the community publicly. 501 00:26:25,870 --> 00:26:29,450 I remember I called my dad, and he... 502 00:26:29,450 --> 00:26:31,410 I'd never seen him be serious like that. 503 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:32,830 He was like, "You don't know. 504 00:26:32,910 --> 00:26:34,450 "You don't know what you're messing with. 505 00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:36,450 Like that's--You're kicking the beehive." 506 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:38,160 Like, he was scared for me. 507 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,250 I think people were definitely scared of retribution. 508 00:26:41,330 --> 00:26:44,040 But something had to happen. 509 00:26:55,250 --> 00:26:58,120 The student body newspaper, "The Crimson White," 510 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,330 was deeply influential in things that were going on on campus. 511 00:27:01,410 --> 00:27:05,620 Abbey's article ignited a conversation 512 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,330 that maybe the university could, in fact, 513 00:27:08,370 --> 00:27:11,870 be motivated in some way to step in. 514 00:27:11,950 --> 00:27:14,500 I started to meet other sorority women 515 00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:18,160 who were grappling with racism in the White Greek system. 516 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,160 They were interested in trying to do something about this. 517 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:25,700 These women that I had met ultimately decided 518 00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:29,000 that they wanted to do this rally that was on the steps 519 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,410 of the main administrative building 520 00:27:31,540 --> 00:27:33,950 and said we'd like to have a woman 521 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,500 who was actually in a sorority speak. 522 00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:37,910 You're not allowed to speak to the press 523 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 when you're in your sorority. 524 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,660 So I still felt, in some capacity, 525 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,000 tied and loyal to my sorority. 526 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,040 But I thought, maybe those other girls in the sorority 527 00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,500 who I haven't met who do agree with me. 528 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,290 I said, "I'll do it." 529 00:27:54,250 --> 00:27:55,660 On the day of the rally, 530 00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,910 we came, streaming across campus. 531 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,250 Showed up on the marble steps of the library, 532 00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:03,870 unfurled a banner. 533 00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:06,120 Reporter: Hundreds of people gathered at Gorgas Library 534 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,830 this morning to rally against the recent segregation 535 00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:13,000 allegations in sororities on UA's campus. 536 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,200 There were several hundred people 537 00:28:15,330 --> 00:28:17,910 who were really angry about the way that things had gone, 538 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,830 who wanted to say that "We're here, 539 00:28:19,910 --> 00:28:22,700 "and you can't pretend that this is just a Greek matter. 540 00:28:22,790 --> 00:28:25,660 "This is a University of Alabama matter, 541 00:28:25,790 --> 00:28:27,830 and we're not going to stand for it." 542 00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:29,870 Institutionalized racism has been allowed to 543 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,450 sort of fester on our campus. 544 00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:34,250 This has long been a taboo subject, shrouded in fear. 545 00:28:34,370 --> 00:28:37,370 Reporter: Participants marched behind students 546 00:28:37,450 --> 00:28:39,000 holding a sigh that read 547 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,500 "The final stand in the schoolhouse door." 548 00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:43,950 We felt like we needed to put a rally on 549 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,040 to show that the students of this campus 550 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,830 are ready for segregation and institutionalized racism 551 00:28:49,870 --> 00:28:51,120 to end on this campus. 552 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,120 I'm here to stand to make sure that 553 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,160 no one has to deal with racism in the Greek system, 554 00:28:57,290 --> 00:28:59,500 or has to deal with any kind of racism 555 00:28:59,580 --> 00:29:01,000 for any purpose or reason. 556 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,830 "As we take a new stand in the schoolhouse doors, 557 00:29:03,910 --> 00:29:06,910 "to clearly demonstrated that we, as a community, 558 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,040 "do not tolerate preferred or institutionalized racism 559 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,580 "on our campus. 560 00:29:11,660 --> 00:29:14,870 "I'm Yardena Wolf, a sophomore majoring in political science 561 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,370 "and a member of Alpha Omicron Pi. 562 00:29:17,370 --> 00:29:19,910 "Although I'm not speaking on behalf of my sorority, 563 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,450 I am speaking out as a member of the Greek community." 564 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:26,160 I received several anonymous phone calls to my phone 565 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,330 that were varying degrees of threatening. 566 00:29:28,410 --> 00:29:32,750 Campus police helped with protection for several days. 567 00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:36,040 But I was heartened by the fact that 568 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,660 there were many students who were willing to speak up 569 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:41,830 and to move things in the right direction. 570 00:29:41,910 --> 00:29:44,200 "We have started to create an environment and community 571 00:29:44,290 --> 00:29:46,250 "where we can support one another as members 572 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:49,370 of the University of Alabama student body." 573 00:29:49,450 --> 00:29:52,040 [cheering] 574 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,120 I remember it feeling very powerful. 575 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Sometimes you write a story and it just kinda goes 576 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,450 into the world and it just fizzles out. 577 00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:02,950 And this, it didn't. 578 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,750 Almost immediately, 579 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:06,580 there were calls from the "New York Times," 580 00:30:06,660 --> 00:30:08,500 from "Time" magazine. 581 00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:12,160 There was a long-form piece that was written about it. 582 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,830 There was a lot of national pressure to do something. 583 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:17,200 President Judy Bonner released a video today 584 00:30:17,290 --> 00:30:20,000 acknowledging campus sororities have used race 585 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040 to make decisions on new members, 586 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,080 and she is ordering changes. 587 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,910 The University of Alabama will not tolerate 588 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,950 discrimination of any kind. 589 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,450 The chapter members are ready to move forward. 590 00:30:34,540 --> 00:30:38,370 The University of Alabama will support them 591 00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:41,040 in every way possible. 592 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,500 In 2013 is when they started documenting the racial makeup 593 00:30:44,540 --> 00:30:46,790 of the recruitment process 594 00:30:46,870 --> 00:30:50,000 and then the makeup of the eventual rush classes. 595 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,750 They released a press release that, like, 596 00:30:51,870 --> 00:30:55,700 every sorority on campus had accepted 597 00:30:55,790 --> 00:30:58,830 two or three minority students. 598 00:30:58,950 --> 00:31:01,160 In 2015, Elliott Spillers, 599 00:31:01,250 --> 00:31:05,660 who became the first Black SGA president in decades, 600 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:10,000 and he did that, partially, by flipping some Greek houses 601 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,410 that were very unhappy with the way that "The Machine" 602 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:14,160 had been running things. 603 00:31:14,290 --> 00:31:17,120 The issue of race and sororities at Alabama, 604 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,580 I would like to think is a thing of the past. 605 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:21,830 But changes in these organizations 606 00:31:21,910 --> 00:31:23,830 can be especially difficult. 607 00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:36,160 My name's Makayla Culpepper. I'm from Pickard, Alabama. 608 00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:39,500 I live, like, in the same house my whole life. 609 00:31:39,540 --> 00:31:40,830 I'm bi-racial. 610 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:42,660 I was adopted, 611 00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:47,750 and my mom was in the delivery room with me when I was born. 612 00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:50,410 Going in to the University of Alabama, 613 00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,250 and you're in all these, like, group chats 614 00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:54,500 of, like, meeting people that are gonna be in your class. 615 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,540 The first question the girls would ask you would be, like, 616 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:58,200 "Are you rushing?" 617 00:31:58,290 --> 00:32:00,000 'Cause they're telling you you're gonna meet 618 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,370 so many great friends, 619 00:32:01,370 --> 00:32:03,410 like, you're gonna meet your bridesmaids. 620 00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:05,450 It just makes everything sound like if you're in a sorority, 621 00:32:05,540 --> 00:32:08,500 you're just gonna be having the best college experience. 622 00:32:08,540 --> 00:32:10,500 So it's just like one of those things. 623 00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:12,370 And I was like, well, get out of my comfort zone. 624 00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:13,830 I'll meet a lot of people, that, like, 625 00:32:13,910 --> 00:32:15,410 I would have never met before. 626 00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:17,500 Like, I felt everything was just gonna be perfect. 627 00:32:17,540 --> 00:32:19,660 Like... It was not. 628 00:32:19,790 --> 00:32:24,040 I do believe that if I was White, 629 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,410 we wouldn't have had the same issues. 630 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:37,290 The week before rush, I was so excited. 631 00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:39,830 My rush resume I felt was pretty detailed. 632 00:32:39,910 --> 00:32:42,500 I had a really high GPA in high school. 633 00:32:42,540 --> 00:32:44,500 I had all cards, like, green light, go. 634 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,580 [indistinct] 635 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,290 This hat is from JCPenny. 636 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,120 I was getting, like, my eyebrows done, 637 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,450 my eyelashes redone, my extensions redone. 638 00:32:55,540 --> 00:32:58,500 There's certain rules that we had to follow in rush. 639 00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:01,660 They tell you to stay away from three things: 640 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:04,250 boys, Biden, and the Bible. 641 00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:08,200 You have to dress a certain way, act a certain way. 642 00:33:10,830 --> 00:33:12,160 So you have two options. 643 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:15,950 I posted TikToks, leading up to rush. 644 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,580 It was like, "I have this dress." 645 00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:19,450 Like, what shoes? I gave them shoe options. 646 00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:20,700 People really like that. 647 00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:21,910 What shoes are we liking better? 648 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,830 These that kinda go up, like that? 649 00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:27,830 Or do we like these better? 650 00:33:27,910 --> 00:33:31,330 I probably started with around 600 followers. 651 00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:35,410 This? Blue--[indistinct]. Pockets. 652 00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,410 By the end of rush, 653 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:42,000 I had, like, 250,000 followers, 654 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,080 just from, like, that week. 655 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000 I have been keeping up with this girl's 656 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,580 entire rush experience, 657 00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:49,500 and she got these shoes. 658 00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:51,540 So what did I do? 659 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:54,370 I got them. 660 00:33:57,950 --> 00:34:00,370 Makayla Culpepper was a kind of a phenom 661 00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:03,450 that swept Bama rush several years ago. 662 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:06,370 Reporter: The hashtag Bama Rush Roll Tide. 663 00:34:06,370 --> 00:34:07,910 This is trending on social media 664 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,370 with videos like these, 665 00:34:09,370 --> 00:34:11,160 showing students at the University of Alabama 666 00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:13,370 getting ready for rush week. 667 00:34:13,450 --> 00:34:16,000 When I first heard about the Bama Rush TikTok... 668 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,330 Both: Bama Rush Day One, OOTD. 669 00:34:18,450 --> 00:34:20,830 I remember thinking, "Oh, my gosh. 670 00:34:20,910 --> 00:34:22,620 Rush is making national news." 671 00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:24,700 It was a frenzy. People were talking about it. 672 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:27,910 I was getting texts from people that I hadn't heard from 673 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,250 the sorority. 674 00:34:29,330 --> 00:34:32,290 Sorority rush is such a deal right now. 675 00:34:32,370 --> 00:34:33,870 TikTok started blowing up. 676 00:34:33,950 --> 00:34:35,540 The hashtag Bama Rush. 677 00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:36,870 Okay, so hear me out, hear me out. 678 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,330 I'm rushing tomorrow. 679 00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:41,450 Good morning, guys. It's preference round day. 680 00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:44,910 Bama Rush TikTok has given us a window in a world 681 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,290 that most people didn't know existed. 682 00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:49,160 It's finally prep day, 683 00:34:49,250 --> 00:34:50,330 and then tomorrow's the big day. 684 00:34:50,450 --> 00:34:52,250 We are so excited, aren't we? 685 00:34:52,330 --> 00:34:54,330 You're watching these women, 686 00:34:54,370 --> 00:34:57,000 and it's almost like sitting front row 687 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,870 to an amazing soap opera, 688 00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:00,830 and you wanna know how it's gonna end. 689 00:35:00,870 --> 00:35:03,790 It's like anything else in reality TV. 690 00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:08,000 It's this huge phenomenal, bright, 691 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,500 dazzling explosion of colors and exuberance. 692 00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:14,000 But it might be a little too much. 693 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,700 I did follow Bama Rush on TikTok. 694 00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:18,950 I remember Makayla being one of the only... 695 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,330 maybe the only person of color I saw. 696 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:22,660 But that wasn't weird 697 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:25,830 because this has been happening for decades. 698 00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:28,160 When I first started the Rush Week, 699 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,120 I was so, so excited. 700 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160 I was living on campus. 701 00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:35,250 My first time, like, away from home. 702 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:36,700 I had a good roommate. 703 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,450 I felt like everything was just gonna be perfect. 704 00:35:38,540 --> 00:35:41,290 Until I got my first round of houses back, 705 00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:43,370 and I had so much less than all my friends. 706 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,830 I only had a fraction of the houses 707 00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:49,200 that I was supposed to get back. 708 00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:51,620 The first round, I had, like, five. 709 00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:54,000 And then the next round, 710 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,370 you have around, like, six or seven. 711 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:59,450 And I...already shot down to three. 712 00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:01,580 And usually you got three numbers 713 00:36:01,580 --> 00:36:03,950 when you have, like, the last round, which is pref. 714 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,250 You have one, two, three options. 715 00:36:06,330 --> 00:36:07,660 I was like, what's going on? 716 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:09,910 So my friends are already at their houses. 717 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,500 They had theirs in the morning. I have mine in the afternoon. 718 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:16,160 And I'll preface this by saying I had no houses yesterday. 719 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,200 I felt like, I'm beeing singled out. 720 00:36:19,290 --> 00:36:23,000 I was so confused. 721 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,330 This stuff isn't adding up. 722 00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:26,950 Like, I've never had more stress in my life. 723 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,160 I had so much anxiety about it. 724 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000 I filmed TikToks this whole entire time. 725 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,660 I loved interacting with everyone. 726 00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:37,200 I thought it was so fun. 727 00:36:37,290 --> 00:36:41,160 But they were so concerned over, like, 728 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,330 what my race was. 729 00:36:43,370 --> 00:36:45,620 And that was so crazy to me. 730 00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:48,950 A girl commented and asked, what tan are you? 731 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,660 And that's what started the debate. 732 00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:54,330 I was, like, I just wanna clarify that I am mixed, 733 00:36:54,450 --> 00:36:56,580 and I've never tried to deceive you. 734 00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:58,040 I never said that I was White. 735 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,500 I just wanna clarify. I am mixed. 736 00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:02,330 So everyone trying to cancel me for that... 737 00:37:02,370 --> 00:37:04,290 and being historic is kinda dumb. 738 00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:06,500 I'm not sure even why that matters. 739 00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:10,330 It's like, I'm gonna show you all my outfits. 740 00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:12,700 I never had anyone ever make comments about my race. 741 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,330 I got called in for a meeting 742 00:37:18,370 --> 00:37:20,950 with the Panhellenic Association. 743 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,160 They brought me in and were like, 744 00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:26,250 "You need to stop making TikToks." 745 00:37:26,330 --> 00:37:29,000 So, these little shorts are from Poshmark. 746 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,790 They're very cool, I'm pretty sure. 747 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:32,330 This is a little tank. 748 00:37:32,410 --> 00:37:33,790 Everyone else was still posting, 749 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:35,580 and I talked to all my friends, and they're like, 750 00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:38,250 "Oh, we never got told that." 751 00:37:38,330 --> 00:37:40,700 I'm so confused. 752 00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:43,160 I was like, okay, well, I'm not gonna be singled out. 753 00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:44,580 I'm just gonna keep doing it. 754 00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:45,660 So, hey, y'all. 755 00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:47,700 I forgot my hair was down and pretty. 756 00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:49,370 [indistinct] 757 00:37:49,450 --> 00:37:50,660 Before I could even get out of bed, 758 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:54,000 I get a phone call from my Roi Chi. 759 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,500 She goes, "I'm sorry to tell you this, 760 00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:58,580 "but you've been dropped from formal sorority recruitment 761 00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:00,870 at the University of Alabama." 762 00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:12,000 After I got dropped, I start crying. 763 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,160 I don't even know what happened. 764 00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:16,200 I'm texting everyone, trying to get down to... 765 00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:18,370 why I was dropped. 766 00:38:18,450 --> 00:38:20,370 No one gave me a definite answer. 767 00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:24,660 Literally when I got up at 6:00 in the morning 768 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:26,330 and found out that I didn't get a bid 769 00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:28,120 and I wasn't gonna make it, I was like, 770 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,450 I'm coming to Birmingham. 771 00:38:29,540 --> 00:38:32,660 [indistinct] I've been banned from posting. 772 00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:35,200 But I'm just gonna go over a couple things 773 00:38:35,330 --> 00:38:37,160 and then we're done with this conversation, 774 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,500 and we're moving on, y'all. 775 00:38:39,580 --> 00:38:42,580 The first few months after I was dropped 776 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:44,790 were so intense 'cause they're always, 777 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:46,500 "Oh, you're the girl that got dropped." 778 00:38:46,580 --> 00:38:49,410 Like, I was literally, like, blacklisted. 779 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,160 I think it was just too much for me. 780 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:53,790 I think they knew that I was gonna be dropped 781 00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:55,660 and that they didn't want it to blow up 782 00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:57,580 that I was gonna be dropped, so they're telling me to stop 783 00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:00,370 making videos because you're not gonna be here for long. 784 00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:02,870 And I wanna tell every girl at Alabama 785 00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:05,790 and any girl at any sorority right now, happy bid day 786 00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:08,290 and I hope you have fun during rush. 787 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:12,200 I remember seeing Makayla got cut, 788 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:14,660 which, of course, you know, my... 789 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:17,000 Spidey senses was like, okay, what happened? 790 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,870 Did this really happen again? 791 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:22,950 It just shows how Black women, women of color, 792 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,830 have to work twice as hard to have the same standard 793 00:39:27,830 --> 00:39:29,450 that White women do. 794 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:32,330 These groups are really trying to keep women of color 795 00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,330 out of their organizations. 796 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:36,500 And I think, looking at the stats and the figures 797 00:39:36,580 --> 00:39:38,660 and even the makeup of the organizations 798 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:40,660 can tell you that story pretty clearly. 799 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:44,620 The fact that Makayla was dropped from rush, 800 00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,660 I didn't really know what to make of it. 801 00:39:46,750 --> 00:39:49,950 Honestly, I kinda felt like being bi-racial in 2021, 802 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,660 it seem like that should have been a selling point. 803 00:39:52,750 --> 00:39:57,200 Racism at this institution is alive and well. 804 00:39:57,330 --> 00:39:58,750 And who's gonna check that? 805 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:06,000 It is sickening that this is still a problem at Alabama, 806 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,700 and there's no end in sight. 807 00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:10,790 In 2023, the University of Alabama reported that 808 00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:13,700 13% of the women who joined sororities 809 00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:16,040 identified as an ethnic minority, 810 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,660 and that's up 4% from 2022. 811 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,000 The data would suggest that there's still some... 812 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,450 some room for growth there. 813 00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:25,660 When you look at the University of Alabama 814 00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:29,000 and you see the history of racism, 815 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,660 the lack of diversity, 816 00:40:30,750 --> 00:40:33,660 it's about maintaining a power, 817 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:37,000 and a power means not looking at ourselves 818 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,790 and not looking at our past. 819 00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:44,450 When you have a system that only allows White men to thrive, 820 00:40:44,540 --> 00:40:48,700 then you have a breeding ground 821 00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:51,580 to pit marginalized groups against one another. 822 00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:54,540 And so all you can do in that moment 823 00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:57,410 is hold on as tightly as you possibly can 824 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:00,660 to any level of proximity to power. 825 00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:03,620 As these sorority women were making their decision, 826 00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:05,540 they're understanding a perceived power 827 00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:07,830 was the fraternities. 828 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:12,660 It was being slated in "Machine"-backed SGA elections, 829 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:14,160 because it was what is gonna get them 830 00:41:14,290 --> 00:41:16,540 to their jobs after college. 831 00:41:16,620 --> 00:41:18,830 There are a lot of people in the world 832 00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:22,660 who want to turn their hands of time backwards 833 00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:26,830 and preserve a time of what we once were 834 00:41:26,910 --> 00:41:30,580 and how things were run before everything changed. 835 00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:33,700 We will not sacrifice our children 836 00:41:33,830 --> 00:41:36,620 to any such type school system, 837 00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:39,410 and you can write that down. 838 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,450 [cheering] 839 00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:46,750 I ended up dropping out of the University of Alabama. 840 00:41:46,830 --> 00:41:48,580 I was just so uncomfortable with, like, 841 00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:50,160 everyone staring at me when I was, like, walking around. 842 00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:53,950 I was like, okay, we're gonna have to leave. 843 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,830 I do see my friends going and doing sorority stuff, 844 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,160 and I feel left out, but it's also, like, 845 00:42:01,250 --> 00:42:04,330 it put me on a fast start to what I wanna do in life. 846 00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:05,700 Like, I got my real estate license. 847 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,910 I opened up my own online boutique, 848 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,830 and I'm glad that I've moved past it, 849 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:12,750 and I'm really happy with what I am in life now. 850 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,830 In the fall of 2013, I had moved out of the sorority house. 851 00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:21,790 I had horrible experiences. 852 00:42:21,870 --> 00:42:24,160 I had a girl bump into me 853 00:42:24,250 --> 00:42:28,330 and purposely spill her drink on my shirt and say, 854 00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:30,790 "There's the sister who betrayed us." 855 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:33,660 It was just made very clear that I was no longer welcome there. 856 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,000 But I got a different sisterhood 857 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,500 from these other women who decided to speak up, 858 00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:41,450 and those are the people who I became friends with 859 00:42:41,540 --> 00:42:43,830 for the rest of my college experience. 860 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:46,450 I imagine that in 2023 that there are women 861 00:42:46,540 --> 00:42:48,540 who will be willing to be do the same. 862 00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,910 If there is a girl who's sitting there 863 00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:53,750 who's not sure if they're asking the right questions 864 00:42:53,830 --> 00:42:56,290 or taking the right action, 865 00:42:56,410 --> 00:42:58,660 I don't want there to be a void for her. 866 00:42:58,790 --> 00:43:00,700 I want her to know that there are people 867 00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,370 who have walked in her shoes and know that 868 00:43:02,450 --> 00:43:04,540 she's doing the right thing. 869 00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:06,790 Captioning provided by A&E Networks. 68403

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