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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,370 --> 00:00:04,290 [waves crashing] 2 00:00:10,660 --> 00:00:13,160 Mm-hmm. 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,700 This peels off the Band-Aid of an unhealed wound. 4 00:00:17,790 --> 00:00:21,000 Reporter: According to the LAPD, the bodies of Kristin High 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,500 and 24-year old Kenitha Saafir of Compton 6 00:00:23,580 --> 00:00:25,660 were pulled from the surf around midnight. 7 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:29,080 You will do anything to be a part of this organization. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,700 You endure the abuse. 9 00:00:31,790 --> 00:00:35,500 You endure being hit, being punched, being paddled. 10 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:37,500 Reporter: High's family contends she died 11 00:00:37,540 --> 00:00:40,160 in a Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority ritual. 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,830 This was the largest, most significant death 13 00:00:44,910 --> 00:00:49,000 of any individuals involved in hazing up to that time. 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,410 How could this happen? 15 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:52,200 Reporter: These girls reportedly witnessed 16 00:00:52,290 --> 00:00:54,290 the horrifying drowning, yet High's relatives say 17 00:00:54,370 --> 00:00:56,370 they can't understand why they're so hesitant 18 00:00:56,450 --> 00:00:58,120 to talk about what happened. 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,000 The first thought: They're lying. They're hiding. 20 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:05,830 People are getting hurt in D-9 groups, 21 00:01:05,910 --> 00:01:07,000 but we're not gonna talk. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,160 This cover-up was so deep, 23 00:01:09,250 --> 00:01:11,500 it was like running into a brick wall. 24 00:01:11,580 --> 00:01:15,160 I wanna know the story. What happened? 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,700 I wanna know the truth. 26 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:22,580 [cheering] 27 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:25,410 There's no place in the world that is more exciting 28 00:01:25,500 --> 00:01:28,160 or thrilling than sororities and fraternities. 29 00:01:28,250 --> 00:01:31,830 But you don't know what actually goes on behind closed doors. 30 00:01:31,870 --> 00:01:35,160 All of Greek life has some sort of a tradition of secrecy. 31 00:01:37,870 --> 00:01:40,450 This was a powerful organization. 32 00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:42,450 I mean, it was a serious cover-up. 33 00:01:45,750 --> 00:01:49,370 The amount of power that the fraternities have, 34 00:01:49,450 --> 00:01:53,200 it's so thoroughly woven into the nature of the universities. 35 00:01:53,290 --> 00:01:56,120 There is always the same playbook. 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,950 Operator: 911. What is the address of your emergency? 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,040 They start the cover-up. Nobody talks. 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,000 Hazing is a huge problem, 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,750 and it's resulted in tragedy. 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,450 Someone was burning a cross on the lawn. 41 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:13,910 They would grab a member, force their face down 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,410 and then make them do a line of cocaine. 43 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:19,250 It felt very sadistic. He wanted me to be hurting. 44 00:02:19,330 --> 00:02:22,750 You send your kid off to college, 45 00:02:22,830 --> 00:02:24,250 and this happens? 46 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:36,000 My name is Akila. 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,450 I am from Riverside, California. 48 00:02:47,540 --> 00:02:50,450 I went to California State University, Los Angeles, 49 00:02:50,540 --> 00:02:54,120 where I studied speech communications. 50 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,160 There are 23 different 51 00:02:57,250 --> 00:03:00,660 California State University campuses in California. 52 00:03:00,750 --> 00:03:04,790 Cal State L.A. is known as a commuter school. 53 00:03:04,870 --> 00:03:06,200 I love this school. 54 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:08,870 I love the fast pace of things 55 00:03:08,870 --> 00:03:12,500 and the sense of independence that it afforded me. 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Greek life is not a big part of the social scene 57 00:03:20,250 --> 00:03:22,500 at California State University, Los Angeles. 58 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:25,750 But there was an allurement, if you will. 59 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:30,200 When I was introduced to Alpha Kappa Alpha Sigma Chapter 60 00:03:30,290 --> 00:03:33,660 right in the mid part of my freshman year. 61 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:37,370 Alpha Kappa Alpha was the first Black sorority 62 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:40,200 that started out in the Divine Nine. 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,330 [girls chanting, indistinct] 64 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:52,910 The Divine Nine is comprised of the historically 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,200 nine African American fraternities and sororities 66 00:03:56,290 --> 00:04:01,700 all founded in the U.S. between 1906 and 1963. 67 00:04:01,790 --> 00:04:05,330 We weren't allowed in many of the fraternities and sororities 68 00:04:05,450 --> 00:04:09,000 that were even founded at that time. 69 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,040 So we did what most groups do. 70 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,870 Made a way where there wasn't one. 71 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:18,580 Michelle: There was strength in that. 72 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,160 Thurgood Marshall, Martin Luther King, 73 00:04:26,250 --> 00:04:29,040 Ketanji Brown Jackson, Kamala Harris. 74 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,000 If they're a popular author, celebrity 75 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,330 part of the Civil Rights movement, 76 00:04:35,370 --> 00:04:39,330 they're all members of the Divine Nine organizations. 77 00:04:39,410 --> 00:04:43,250 It is a staple of Black culture. 78 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:45,750 [chanting, indistinct] 79 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,580 I was looking to join Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority, 80 00:04:52,660 --> 00:04:55,040 because after college, I was looking 81 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,250 to gain an alliance of sisters who all were like-minded. 82 00:04:59,370 --> 00:05:01,950 Very smart, ambitious, 83 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,370 wanting to make a difference in their communities. 84 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:17,620 I started pledging in 1999. 85 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:21,620 I had no idea what I signed up for. 86 00:05:23,660 --> 00:05:26,540 Hazing practices went underground 87 00:05:26,540 --> 00:05:29,450 in the D-9 in the early 1990s. 88 00:05:29,540 --> 00:05:32,830 The membership intake process is what replaced 89 00:05:32,910 --> 00:05:34,450 the pledge process. 90 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:36,040 Applications would be filled out 91 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,250 and then the organization would make selections. 92 00:05:39,330 --> 00:05:41,500 But when people know that you were hazed, 93 00:05:41,540 --> 00:05:43,540 that you were pledged into the organization, 94 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:46,660 there is instant respect. You're legit. 95 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:48,790 I didn't understand hazing. 96 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:52,660 At the time, I decided to join the organization. 97 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:57,250 But the conversations had began about how we were going 98 00:05:57,370 --> 00:06:01,750 to do the same thing as those that preceded us. 99 00:06:01,830 --> 00:06:04,580 That hazing was not gonna be a breeze. 100 00:06:11,410 --> 00:06:15,000 Sessions would always be at night. 101 00:06:19,870 --> 00:06:24,040 Sigma Chapter did not have a home. 102 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,750 And so most of our sessions would be at random places. 103 00:06:29,290 --> 00:06:32,830 Or the houses of some of the sisters. 104 00:06:32,910 --> 00:06:34,870 We all had to wear the same attire. 105 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:37,790 Black sweatshirts, black bras, 106 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:41,500 black panties, black sweatpants, 107 00:06:41,580 --> 00:06:44,330 black socks, and black shoes. 108 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:46,080 We were instructed to have our 109 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,580 pledge journals at every session. 110 00:06:49,660 --> 00:06:53,830 We were to take notes on the history, 111 00:06:53,870 --> 00:06:55,830 list things about our line sisters 112 00:06:55,950 --> 00:06:57,790 that we were supposed to know about. 113 00:07:04,870 --> 00:07:08,660 On the weekends, we would be instructed to go 114 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,500 to some of the boyfriends' homes, 115 00:07:11,540 --> 00:07:15,700 the big sisters, to clean their houses, wash their cars. 116 00:07:15,790 --> 00:07:19,910 Servitude is a big part of that hazing process. 117 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,910 [ringing] 118 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,750 Pledges would get phone calls all hours of the day and night. 119 00:07:24,830 --> 00:07:28,750 I witnessed my line sisters... 120 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:31,290 spending exuberant amounts of money. 121 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:33,500 Maxing out credit cards 122 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:35,750 in order to please the big sisters. 123 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:38,700 But us continuing to show up, I guess, 124 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:41,450 was a way of them being able to say, 125 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:44,160 "Okay, she really wants to be a part of this." 126 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,540 And so that's when the physical events began. 127 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:52,620 When it comes to hazing, 128 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,160 particularly in Black fraternities and sororities, 129 00:07:55,250 --> 00:07:59,000 it's usually more physical. 130 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Like you may see calisthenics. 131 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,830 You may see paddling. 132 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:05,660 The Century Club, where you get 100 paddles in one night. 133 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:07,450 This is gonna teach you strength. 134 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:09,580 This is gonna teach you discipline. 135 00:08:09,580 --> 00:08:11,330 This is gonna teach you deference. 136 00:08:11,410 --> 00:08:15,160 There would be times where we didn't get questions right, 137 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,330 thus we'd all be punished. 138 00:08:17,370 --> 00:08:21,160 We would have to get into the positions of furniture, 139 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,620 chairs and tables, in which they could sit on you. 140 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:29,540 I witnessed my line sisters be... 141 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:34,080 beaten, hit, socked, 142 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,620 made to do some very humiliating, um...things, 143 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:42,540 say some very humiliating things about themselves. 144 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:45,580 I've actually heard of some sort of strange fruit, 145 00:08:45,660 --> 00:08:48,290 which is usually an onion, and having to eat that. 146 00:08:48,370 --> 00:08:51,000 And if you throw up, you just gotta kinda lick it back up 147 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,750 and keep going. 148 00:08:52,830 --> 00:08:56,580 There are a lot of ways to torture people and... 149 00:08:56,580 --> 00:08:58,160 people can get really creative. 150 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:02,750 One night, we were in session 151 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:04,750 at one of the big sister's parents homes, 152 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:09,250 and I didn't answer a question correctly, 153 00:09:09,330 --> 00:09:13,120 and they were trying to find something to punish me with. 154 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,290 And so that big sister opened up the kitchen sink 155 00:09:17,370 --> 00:09:19,250 and pulled something out of it. 156 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:22,120 I did not know what it was, 157 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,660 and she opened it up, 158 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:25,620 and she poured a little bit in the capful 159 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:27,660 and she said, "Drink it." 160 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:30,040 And so I drank it! 161 00:09:31,870 --> 00:09:34,540 And all of a sudden, I began feeling light-headed. 162 00:09:34,540 --> 00:09:36,040 I was sweating. 163 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,200 I'm getting sick. 164 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:41,830 It was my line sister who said, 165 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,330 "I think we need to take her to the doctor." 166 00:09:44,330 --> 00:09:48,290 The Dean of Pledges says that we do not say anything 167 00:09:48,370 --> 00:09:49,620 about what was really happening. 168 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:51,250 She then instructed my line sisters 169 00:09:51,330 --> 00:09:55,500 to take me to the hospital and to reach back out to her 170 00:09:55,580 --> 00:09:58,080 after the visit to the doctor. 171 00:09:59,580 --> 00:10:02,620 We were not to instruct the doctor 172 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:05,000 or advise the doctor that we were obviously 173 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,290 pledging and hazing for a sorority. 174 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:10,700 People are getting hurt in D-9 groups, 175 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:12,500 but you don't hear about it 176 00:10:12,540 --> 00:10:14,620 like you hear about it in other groups. 177 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:16,500 'Cause we're not gonna talk. 178 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:18,540 That is a dire situation. 179 00:10:18,620 --> 00:10:21,200 You endure the abuse, 180 00:10:21,290 --> 00:10:24,410 being hit, being punched, being paddled, being humiliated. 181 00:10:24,500 --> 00:10:26,660 And that's the honorable thing to do, 182 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:28,910 to demonstrate your allegiance 183 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,620 in wanting to be a part of the organization. 184 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:35,580 I wasn't gonna punk out and stop. 185 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:39,000 I knew that if I decided to drop, 186 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,250 those connections with my line sisters 187 00:10:43,330 --> 00:10:44,950 will ultimately be lost. 188 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,790 And these were women that I loved, that I respected. 189 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:51,660 And so that was just something that I didn't... 190 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:53,950 want to lose at that time. 191 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,620 But it just got to a point where enough was enough. 192 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,790 One night, we had a session in my apartment. 193 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:15,750 All of us were on the line, on our hands and knees. 194 00:11:15,830 --> 00:11:19,500 There was a big sister, and, um, 195 00:11:19,540 --> 00:11:21,370 there was a question that she had asked me 196 00:11:21,450 --> 00:11:23,830 about...the history. 197 00:11:23,910 --> 00:11:29,700 And I didn't answer her in a way that was pleasing to her, 198 00:11:29,790 --> 00:11:32,330 and she had taken her foot 199 00:11:32,450 --> 00:11:34,830 and raised it all the way back, 200 00:11:34,910 --> 00:11:37,790 as far as she could lift her leg up, 201 00:11:37,870 --> 00:11:40,540 and she kicked me 202 00:11:40,620 --> 00:11:42,250 so hard 203 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:46,790 that I went down into my other line sisters 204 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:49,080 and kind of knocked them down. 205 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,660 That just did not, in any shape, form, or fashion, 206 00:11:53,790 --> 00:11:57,500 scream sisterhood to me. 207 00:11:57,540 --> 00:12:01,120 I...got myself together, 208 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,250 and I got up, 209 00:12:03,370 --> 00:12:05,120 and I looked at her 210 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,620 and addressed everybody else in the room. 211 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:10,660 "As far as I'm concerned, the session is over. 212 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:14,160 I'm done. Get the [bleep] out." 213 00:12:20,450 --> 00:12:23,870 Akila: When I made the decision to drop, I felt relieved. 214 00:12:23,950 --> 00:12:28,040 But it hurt to walk away from the women 215 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,080 that you had a common bond with in hoping that one day, 216 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,830 we're all going to be these prestigious, 217 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:39,500 intelligent, professional women who had to go through hell 218 00:12:39,580 --> 00:12:43,830 to get to where we're at. 219 00:12:43,870 --> 00:12:47,950 I did see violence where big sisters would 220 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,660 put their hands on others 221 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:52,040 to inflict very serious physical damage. 222 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,660 I couldn't buy into the organization at that point. 223 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:57,870 Everything that it was built upon, 224 00:12:57,950 --> 00:12:59,950 all the values, the philosophies, 225 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,830 the principles, all that went out the door. 226 00:13:01,910 --> 00:13:03,660 And that's when I decided 227 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:06,750 I didn't want to be a part of it anymore. 228 00:13:06,830 --> 00:13:12,500 I am absolutely thankful and grateful 229 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:16,580 that I left when I did. 230 00:13:16,660 --> 00:13:18,330 And had I would have stayed, 231 00:13:18,330 --> 00:13:24,000 I would be associated to what came shortly after me. 232 00:13:29,290 --> 00:13:33,120 I met Kenitha at church in Los Angeles. 233 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,000 I went to California State University, Long Beach, 234 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,370 and she had just transferred to Cal State, Los Angeles, 235 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:41,910 when I met her. 236 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,250 We instantly just hit it off. 237 00:13:44,330 --> 00:13:48,000 I really liked her. I liked her family and her husband. 238 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,950 Karim and Kenitha were such a good pair. 239 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,750 Everyone else just kinda disappeared 240 00:13:53,830 --> 00:13:56,200 when they were together. 241 00:13:56,330 --> 00:13:59,910 I met Kenitha Martin when she was 18, 242 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,830 and I was 20 years old. 243 00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:04,450 She had a strong personality. 244 00:14:04,540 --> 00:14:08,160 She was a really good friend, supportive and bubbly, 245 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:10,580 liked to laugh and have fun. 246 00:14:10,660 --> 00:14:14,040 We were together for three years before I just got on a knee 247 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,660 and asked her, will she marry me? 248 00:14:15,790 --> 00:14:17,580 She said yes. [laughs] 249 00:14:19,450 --> 00:14:21,540 When Kenitha started Cal State, L.A., in 2001, 250 00:14:21,620 --> 00:14:25,200 she really wanted to finish her degree in photography. 251 00:14:25,370 --> 00:14:29,450 Kenitha was excited about doing art programs for kids. 252 00:14:29,540 --> 00:14:32,910 And I do remember us having a conversation one day 253 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,870 about both of us being interested 254 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,950 in joining a sorority. 255 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,040 I was interested in joining Delta Sigma Theta, 256 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,500 and she wanted to be a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha, or AKA. 257 00:14:46,700 --> 00:14:49,660 She thought that that could be a channel, 258 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:51,330 a network, a community, 259 00:14:51,410 --> 00:14:53,040 you know, a sisterhood of people with whom 260 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,080 she could carry out her interests. 261 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,910 But there was not an active AKA chapter at Cal State, L.A. 262 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 They had been suspended on the campus. 263 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,160 In the spring of 2002, 264 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,200 toward the end of that semester, 265 00:15:18,290 --> 00:15:19,950 I remember her saying like, 266 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,330 "Oh, I think they're gonna come back to my campus." 267 00:15:22,410 --> 00:15:24,790 She was like, "Finally I get to do it. 268 00:15:24,870 --> 00:15:26,790 "They got AKA on campus. 269 00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:28,500 "I just met with this girl, 270 00:15:28,620 --> 00:15:31,250 and, you know, the chapter's coming back." 271 00:15:31,370 --> 00:15:34,160 Kenitha and I knew that pledging and hazing 272 00:15:34,290 --> 00:15:36,080 are pretty much the same thing. 273 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,330 When Kenitha said she wanted to pledge, 274 00:15:38,410 --> 00:15:39,700 I was fine with it. 275 00:15:39,790 --> 00:15:42,040 It was like a right of passage. 276 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,370 And I thought, why can't girls do it anyway? 277 00:15:46,450 --> 00:15:49,750 Kenitha was in her final year of school in 2002 278 00:15:49,830 --> 00:15:51,290 when she pledged AKA. 279 00:15:51,370 --> 00:15:54,290 I remember meeting all the different pledges. 280 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:57,660 I remember meeting Kristin a couple of times. 281 00:15:57,750 --> 00:16:00,790 Kenitha was like, "Oh, she's really a cool chick." 282 00:16:00,870 --> 00:16:04,160 They just kinda became good friends. 283 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,120 Kristin was my younger sister, seven years apart. 284 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,250 We grew up with my mom, who was a single mom. 285 00:16:11,370 --> 00:16:14,410 One summer, she tells me she's pregnant. 286 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:19,660 She wanted to be the best mom to Skyler, 287 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:22,040 and she wanted to change things. 288 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,830 She had so many dreams. 289 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:27,290 She picked Cal State, L.A., I think, 290 00:16:27,370 --> 00:16:30,080 because it was about the quickest way 291 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,370 of finishing up her degree. 292 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:36,160 Kristin wanted to be a civil rights lawyer. 293 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,620 She was very passionate about making change 294 00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:42,120 for community and people that were less fortunate. 295 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,290 Since AKA had those kind of women, 296 00:16:46,370 --> 00:16:49,160 she thought that if she got in that group, 297 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:55,000 she could make things better for Black women, 298 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,790 or women, period. 299 00:16:56,870 --> 00:17:01,000 Knowing that hazing might come up, 300 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,330 I had some reservation about her pledging. 301 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:09,370 I don't know when Kristin started pledging, 302 00:17:09,450 --> 00:17:11,660 because she kept it from me. 303 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:13,370 [ringing] 304 00:17:13,450 --> 00:17:15,830 Kristin would receive all kinds of calls 305 00:17:15,950 --> 00:17:17,870 from the big sisters. 306 00:17:17,950 --> 00:17:20,410 "Take my clothes to the cleaners." 307 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:23,620 "Braid my hair." "Go grocery shopping." 308 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:25,910 "Get me lunch." 309 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,120 [phone ringing] 310 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,370 She was tired! She was not my Kristin. 311 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:36,830 She was so caught up in pledging. 312 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:40,160 It looked like they had brainwashed her. 313 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,830 I was upset at my sister for allowing someone 314 00:17:43,910 --> 00:17:46,120 to do these things to her. 315 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,410 Because I know that we were raised differently. 316 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:52,160 But I also know that my sister, for, like, 317 00:17:52,250 --> 00:17:55,410 whatever she puts her mind to, she's gonna complete. 318 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,830 Finally, when she came home one night, 319 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:06,870 she walked in. 320 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,080 She had a cloth over her lip, 321 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,080 and I noticed her lip was bleeding, 322 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,160 and her tooth was missing on the side. 323 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,580 And I walked in the bathroom with her and I said, 324 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:21,330 "Kristin, what's going on? What happened?" 325 00:18:21,410 --> 00:18:23,950 She said, "Oh, it's gonna be all right, Mom." 326 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,910 And I says, "No, it's not gonna be all right 327 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,750 if they're bringing harm to you. 328 00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:30,790 You need to stop." 329 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:33,410 And sure enough, 330 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:37,160 that was about two weeks before she died. 331 00:18:43,370 --> 00:18:45,330 [music] 332 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,410 Kristin considered quitting-- Yes, she did. 333 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:58,620 Because it began to be, um... 334 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:01,830 really tiring, 335 00:19:01,950 --> 00:19:06,200 and it seems as if they were never gonna get to the end. 336 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:08,500 They put the carrot out there, 337 00:19:08,580 --> 00:19:10,830 "and as soon as you finish this, 338 00:19:10,910 --> 00:19:13,290 "we're gonna cross the desert sand, 339 00:19:13,370 --> 00:19:14,790 and it'll be over." 340 00:19:22,790 --> 00:19:25,160 Some of the terminology about 341 00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:27,160 becoming a member of the organization 342 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:30,370 is rooted in African folklore. 343 00:19:30,450 --> 00:19:34,000 Crossing the hot sands of Africa 344 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,450 that maybe our ancestors walked. 345 00:19:36,540 --> 00:19:38,370 So when you hear someone say, "I crossed," 346 00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:40,660 that is short for "crossing the burning sand" 347 00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:44,120 into this new life, into the organization. 348 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:57,160 ...kissing her good-bye saying, "I'll see you later." 349 00:19:57,250 --> 00:20:00,330 That night, Kristin had to do some things 350 00:20:00,410 --> 00:20:03,000 for those sorority sisters. 351 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,040 She said she loved me. 352 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:08,160 I thought she was gonna get through it, 353 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:10,540 she was gonna make it. 354 00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:13,580 And I wish I hadn't thought like that. 355 00:20:17,790 --> 00:20:20,250 The doorbell rung... 356 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:22,370 early in the morning. 357 00:20:22,450 --> 00:20:25,950 And when I opened the door, 358 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,580 LAPD was there, 359 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:31,330 and a chaplain. 360 00:20:31,450 --> 00:20:35,410 And the police said... 361 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:38,200 "Do you have a daughter named Kristin?" 362 00:20:42,290 --> 00:20:45,160 And immediately, I knew she was gone. 363 00:20:45,250 --> 00:20:47,330 [breaking up] As I was crying... 364 00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:50,450 [sniffles] Skyler heard me... 365 00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:53,330 and he come running down the hall saying, 366 00:20:53,410 --> 00:20:55,700 "Don't cry, Nana, don't cry." 367 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,330 And that's how we found out... 368 00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:05,370 that she was gone. 369 00:21:09,450 --> 00:21:12,620 Kenitha's sister had called me very late at night, 370 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:15,830 and she said, "I need you. Can you get over here? 371 00:21:15,910 --> 00:21:18,330 Because Kenji died." 372 00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:19,870 We called her Kenji. 373 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:22,330 And I was like, "What do you-- What do you mean?" 374 00:21:22,370 --> 00:21:26,370 And she said, "I'll share more when you get here. 375 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,000 Can you just get here?" 376 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,660 By the time I had gotten there, 377 00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:32,540 some people from the church had come. 378 00:21:32,620 --> 00:21:35,950 Karim also came with his mom. 379 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,040 Karim: Really, I had no idea what was going on. 380 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,830 That day was the worst. The worst day. 381 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:47,250 I cried. I lost my best friend who... 382 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,950 Um...[mumbles] Sorry. 383 00:21:55,660 --> 00:21:56,950 [exhales] 384 00:21:58,790 --> 00:22:01,660 We were all sitting in her mother's living room 385 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:05,500 under the stupor of disbelief. 386 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:09,750 It's the sense of, what do you mean? 387 00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:11,500 But what happened? 388 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:14,160 I do remember the police stopping by. 389 00:22:14,290 --> 00:22:18,410 And what I recall being told 390 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:21,370 is that night they had gone out the beach 391 00:22:21,450 --> 00:22:24,160 with their sorority sisters. 392 00:22:24,250 --> 00:22:27,160 The tide was strong, 393 00:22:27,290 --> 00:22:30,580 and Kenitha could not swim. 394 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Kristin got swept up in it also. 395 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,080 [clears throat] And, um, 396 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,080 both of them lost their lives. 397 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:47,160 But we were just all kinda frozen. 398 00:22:47,250 --> 00:22:48,790 Time just stopped... 399 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:52,700 where we're trying to make sense of this. 400 00:22:52,790 --> 00:22:54,750 Reporter: Outside the South L.A. home 401 00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:57,700 of 22-year-old drowning victim Kristin High, 402 00:22:57,790 --> 00:22:59,330 neighbors lingered late into the evening 403 00:22:59,370 --> 00:23:00,620 to comfort her family. 404 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:03,200 L.A. police say High accidentally drowned 405 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:06,580 with another woman at Dockweiler State Beach. 406 00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:12,080 The police declared it, it was a fraternity-sorority party, 407 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,000 and it had gone wrong. 408 00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:18,910 The big sisters, they're lying. 409 00:23:18,910 --> 00:23:23,910 They did not tell the police what actually was going on. 410 00:23:23,910 --> 00:23:26,160 They were hazing them. 411 00:23:26,330 --> 00:23:29,000 I wanna know the story! 412 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,410 What happened? 413 00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:33,040 I wanna know the truth! 414 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,750 Before Kristin's death, 415 00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:39,870 Sigma's chapter was on the AKA website. 416 00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:43,080 And when we woke up the next morning, 417 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,040 it was taken off. 418 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:49,910 That was strange. 419 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,370 And then we found out that Kristin's car was missing. 420 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:58,790 So about mid-afternoon, 421 00:23:58,870 --> 00:24:03,410 the car drives up the street, 422 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:06,910 with the little sisters. 423 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:12,580 The pledgees drop Kristin's car off in front of my mom's home 424 00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:17,500 and begin to run down the street to a big sister 425 00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:21,450 that was waiting in her car at the corner. 426 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:24,200 And one of my cousins chased the car down, 427 00:24:24,290 --> 00:24:26,330 and they got out, 428 00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:29,910 and they brought them back to my mom's house. 429 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,580 I'm in the den. 430 00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:34,950 Little sisters walked in the house... 431 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,000 [music] 432 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,700 ...and they were crying, 433 00:24:38,790 --> 00:24:41,830 saying they were sorry. 434 00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:43,700 And I said, "What happened? 435 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:48,660 What went on out there? What--Tell me the truth." 436 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,370 And one of the sisters began to tell the story. 437 00:24:55,450 --> 00:24:57,580 That's when one of the pledgees is just like, 438 00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,160 "They told us not to say anything!" 439 00:24:59,290 --> 00:25:00,540 She shouted that out. 440 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:02,410 And that's when they all shut down. 441 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:03,950 And they said, "We gotta go," 442 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,160 and they start walking out of the house. 443 00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:12,120 I immediately knew that they were covering up something. 444 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:29,330 Akila: I dropped from pledging Alpha Kappa Alpha 445 00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:32,540 fall-winter 2000. 446 00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:38,660 Fast-forward, preparing for graduation from college, 447 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,830 and there's a newsflash 448 00:25:41,910 --> 00:25:45,660 that there's been two deaths. 449 00:25:45,790 --> 00:25:47,000 Reporter: The bodies of Kristin High 450 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,660 and 24-year old Kenitha Saafir of Compton 451 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,660 were pulled from the surf around midnight. 452 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:53,830 But High's family contends she died 453 00:25:53,950 --> 00:25:56,370 in a Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority ritual. 454 00:25:56,450 --> 00:26:00,080 Akila: I was speechless. 455 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,750 They later flashed a picture of Kristin's home. 456 00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:06,330 Reporter: These girls reportedly witnessed 457 00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:08,160 the horrifying drowning, yet relatives say 458 00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:10,330 they can't understand why they're so hesitant 459 00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:13,040 to talk about what happened. 460 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:17,950 And out of the home comes walking 461 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,620 a couple of my then-line sisters when I was pledging. 462 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,000 Reporter: The Cal State, L.A., chapter is trying 463 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,830 to quietly distance itself from this deadly accident. 464 00:26:28,910 --> 00:26:32,330 I... 465 00:26:32,370 --> 00:26:34,250 [scoffs] 466 00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:36,500 I was paralyzed. 467 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:39,620 What happened? 468 00:26:41,950 --> 00:26:46,330 When Kristin was pledging, some of the pledgee sisters 469 00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:48,160 would come over to the house. 470 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,830 After Kristin's death, the interaction 471 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:54,330 with the little sisters dissolved. 472 00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:58,410 If nothing really happened, 473 00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:00,790 why don't they answer our calls? 474 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:02,910 They ran away and tried to hide. 475 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,450 Some went out of the state, some went out of the city, 476 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:09,370 and we had no contact, 477 00:27:09,450 --> 00:27:11,040 no way to get in contact with anybody, 478 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,160 so we couldn't get any information about what happened. 479 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,200 What frustrates me is the level of silence 480 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,160 and the level of secrecy that these organizations 481 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,200 put before anything else, 482 00:27:26,290 --> 00:27:29,790 regardless if people got injured or died. 483 00:27:29,870 --> 00:27:32,910 And instead of just stopping the behavior, 484 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,000 people are just choosing to stay quiet. 485 00:27:38,790 --> 00:27:41,370 Everything that Kristin got from AKA 486 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:44,700 was kept in a box in her bedroom. 487 00:27:44,790 --> 00:27:47,620 Every time they go to a session, 488 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:49,790 they would take their items with them, 489 00:27:49,870 --> 00:27:51,830 along with their journal. 490 00:27:51,910 --> 00:27:53,950 But when they brought the car back, 491 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,200 all her items was missing from her car. 492 00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:00,580 The only thing that was left in her car 493 00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:04,790 was Skyler's car seat. 494 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:09,120 We began to realize everything that she had of AKA was gone. 495 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,290 They were trying to wipe out any evidence 496 00:28:14,370 --> 00:28:16,620 that she was pledging. 497 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:18,660 Based on my experience, 498 00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,540 I believe that all of these women 499 00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:24,250 were given some form of instruction 500 00:28:24,330 --> 00:28:29,080 on how to properly handle this situation. 501 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,200 How to get rid of this. 502 00:28:31,330 --> 00:28:33,120 Who not to talk to. 503 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,200 I was angry. I was really angry. 504 00:28:38,290 --> 00:28:40,080 But I was ready to fight. 505 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,330 I hired the lawyer the very next day. 506 00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:50,370 When we took on this case, no one wanted to come forward 507 00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:52,660 and really express what happened. 508 00:28:52,750 --> 00:28:54,830 They're joining an organization 509 00:28:54,910 --> 00:28:58,870 that is an extremely positive entity 510 00:28:58,870 --> 00:29:01,700 within the African American community 511 00:29:01,790 --> 00:29:03,660 and the community at large in the United States. 512 00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:07,830 No one could understand, how could this happen? 513 00:29:07,910 --> 00:29:11,000 After I hired the lawyer, they introduced me 514 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,830 to Robert Freeman, the investigator. 515 00:29:14,910 --> 00:29:18,700 My investigation was to figure out 516 00:29:18,790 --> 00:29:20,500 what happened on that night 517 00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:23,790 and to put a detailed report together 518 00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:27,330 to go after them criminally or civilly. 519 00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:29,700 [waves lapping] 520 00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:31,620 We uncovered in our investigation 521 00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:35,080 that the 911 call was made by a resident 522 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,950 who lived in the area and who had observed some commotion. 523 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,660 The beach closed at 10:00, and she thought maybe 524 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,620 some youngsters were partying on the beach 525 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:47,160 that shouldn't have been there. 526 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:50,160 The sorority sisters and the little sisters 527 00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:53,660 told the police they were exercising, 528 00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:56,830 and the reason why they were in the ocean 529 00:29:56,910 --> 00:29:59,080 after they're exercising, 530 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,660 they were just washing off to leave. 531 00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:05,370 They went to go rinse off the sand... 532 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:09,000 even though they had their shoes and sweats on. 533 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,830 None of that made any sense. 534 00:30:13,410 --> 00:30:17,410 Tracking down the girls that was in charge of the line 535 00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:18,950 was the easy part. 536 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:21,790 Getting them to talk was the task. 537 00:30:21,870 --> 00:30:25,620 They say that, "Oh, well, the organization say 538 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:28,040 I can't talk to you." 539 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,830 No one on the beach talked to me. No one. 540 00:30:31,910 --> 00:30:34,870 It was like running into a brick wall. 541 00:30:36,410 --> 00:30:38,500 I don't think anybody intentionally went out 542 00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:40,330 and killed anybody. 543 00:30:40,410 --> 00:30:43,830 But girls were out there who were responsible. 544 00:30:43,910 --> 00:30:45,700 I have no hard feelings against you, 545 00:30:45,790 --> 00:30:48,580 but you have to take responsibility. 546 00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:49,950 What happened that night? 547 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,330 What really happened that night? 548 00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:58,040 I said to my attorney, "I gotta find the truth. 549 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,290 So how do we get to the truth?" 550 00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:05,290 So they decided that we'll do a civil suit. 551 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:08,370 The police say that there is no evidence 552 00:31:08,450 --> 00:31:10,290 of criminal wrongdoing in this case. 553 00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:12,370 They say there is no alcohol, no coercion, 554 00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:14,040 no reckless endangerment. 555 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,500 Why launch a $100 million lawsuit against the sorority? 556 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:20,410 What the civil lawsuit allows for is the discovery process, 557 00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:24,000 and in that process, we can subpoena witnesses, 558 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,950 we can subpoena documents, 559 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,830 and hopefully, in that process, can finally get to the truth 560 00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:31,330 on what happened on the night of September 9th. 561 00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:34,330 The drowning of the two women at that time 562 00:31:34,410 --> 00:31:38,450 was the largest, most significant death 563 00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:42,160 of any individuals involved in hazing or pledging 564 00:31:42,250 --> 00:31:46,200 up to that time, related to a national organization. 565 00:31:46,290 --> 00:31:50,750 And we knew that we had to explain how that could happen, 566 00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:53,330 and we needed to also draw attention to it 567 00:31:53,410 --> 00:31:55,580 so that it didn't happen anymore in the future. 568 00:31:55,660 --> 00:31:57,250 We had causes of action against 569 00:31:57,330 --> 00:32:00,080 the National Organization of Alpha Kappa Alpha, 570 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,450 based on negligence. 571 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:03,040 They had a duty of care 572 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,540 owed to the individuals that passed away that night. 573 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,950 At the end of that process, 574 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,500 we were able to put together a fairly good picture 575 00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:28,450 of what happened that night. 576 00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:35,410 This was supposed to have been the night 577 00:32:35,540 --> 00:32:38,580 that they were doing "crossing the desert sands." 578 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:41,580 And it was supposed to have been the last night. 579 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,410 Through deduction, we believe that they were blindfolded 580 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,660 with their hands tied. 581 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,660 And they got out of the car 582 00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:57,040 and walk towards the ocean. 583 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,410 They were required to recite the history of the sorority 584 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,080 at the same time as their going through the calisthenics. 585 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,200 They were running down the beach. 586 00:33:07,290 --> 00:33:08,790 They were using a lot of energy 587 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:11,540 at approximately 10:30 p.m. at night. 588 00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:18,500 And then one last thing to do was to go into the ocean. 589 00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:23,330 It's at night, and this water was rough. 590 00:33:23,370 --> 00:33:25,580 Just-just-- It was horrible. 591 00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:28,040 [waves pounding] 592 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,330 This was supposed to have been the night 593 00:33:34,410 --> 00:33:36,790 that they were "crossing the desert sand." 594 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:39,540 So they had to go out into the ocean, 595 00:33:39,620 --> 00:33:41,540 and it'll be over. 596 00:33:41,620 --> 00:33:44,160 Kenitha, she couldn't swim. 597 00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:46,290 She didn't even like shower water on her face. 598 00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:48,830 She used to be that afraid of water. 599 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:53,080 Amber: Maybe is was out of fear that she opted to participate. 600 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,370 "Knowing that I can't swim, I'm gonna see it through." 601 00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:58,620 So I think it's that... that thinking 602 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:00,660 is why she got in the water. 603 00:34:00,750 --> 00:34:03,370 As they went into the ocean, 604 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:06,700 there was a Simon Says sort of practice 605 00:34:06,790 --> 00:34:08,910 that was taking place. 606 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,370 You got to listen to somebody's voice, 607 00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:13,410 or somebody shouting directions. 608 00:34:13,540 --> 00:34:16,250 "Move right. Move left. Come forward. Go backwards." 609 00:34:16,370 --> 00:34:18,700 They had to trust each other. 610 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:23,000 They called this a way of becoming more, um... 611 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,540 like sisters. 612 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,160 What happened, though, was the condition of the ocean 613 00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:35,330 at that time dramatically changed. 614 00:34:35,410 --> 00:34:39,540 And as a result, when the waves came through, 615 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:42,250 it knocked down all four of the girls. 616 00:34:43,870 --> 00:34:47,410 Mansfield: Two of the girls were able to walk out of the ocean. 617 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:51,040 Then they said Kristin got up 618 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:56,120 and she says, "Help! It's Kenitha!" 619 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,620 And they said the next thing they know, 620 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:01,200 Kristin got down and started grabbing on Kenitha. 621 00:35:01,290 --> 00:35:04,660 Instead of just thinking about saving herself, 622 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:08,120 we believe that she sought to save Kenitha, 623 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,790 who didn't know how to swim. 624 00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:14,660 And in the process, Kristin High, a good swimmer, 625 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:16,500 ended up drowning as well. 626 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:18,410 [waves lapping] 627 00:35:21,870 --> 00:35:25,200 She could not get out of that ocean 628 00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:28,200 until she saved her sister. 629 00:35:28,330 --> 00:35:31,660 She was a true sister. 630 00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,750 We understand that after the drowning, 631 00:35:34,830 --> 00:35:36,790 the chapter of Sigma 632 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:39,500 that were responsible for the pledging that night 633 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:44,160 decided to all meet up at someone's home. 634 00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:47,160 Patricia: So they got all their plans together 635 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:52,450 They get rid of all the AKA items in Kristin's car. 636 00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:56,080 Someone had destroyed Kristin High's daily journal 637 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,750 of her pledging activities, 638 00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:00,160 and that journal has never been recovered. 639 00:36:00,290 --> 00:36:02,000 We understand that in that meeting, 640 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,830 they decided to come up with certain versions of a story 641 00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:07,750 of what happened that night 642 00:36:07,830 --> 00:36:12,250 to try to protect themselves, from being expelled, 643 00:36:12,330 --> 00:36:14,200 for engaging in hazing, 644 00:36:14,290 --> 00:36:18,200 and to try to protect the national organization 645 00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:21,500 and the embarrassment that this type of conduct 646 00:36:21,580 --> 00:36:23,290 brought to the organization. 647 00:36:26,540 --> 00:36:29,540 The National Organization said that they had 648 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:31,620 suspended this particular chapter, 649 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:34,950 and therefore, they weren't responsible for anything 650 00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:37,250 that they were doing, and they didn't know that they were 651 00:36:37,330 --> 00:36:40,790 engaging in any hazing or pledging. 652 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:44,790 I think the way that the organization responded 653 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:49,330 was nuanced in the sense that these are just some bad apples, 654 00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:53,160 some rogue women who decided 655 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:55,200 to take these matters into their own hands 656 00:36:55,290 --> 00:36:58,330 in terms of getting their chapter reinstated. 657 00:36:58,370 --> 00:37:00,330 And I don't know how true that is, 658 00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:04,500 because in the spring of 2002, 659 00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:07,290 I remember Kenitha saying they're already starting, 660 00:37:07,370 --> 00:37:08,870 I guess, the paperwork. 661 00:37:08,950 --> 00:37:14,040 The idea was the beginning the process of getting AKA 662 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,370 reinstated back on campus. 663 00:37:16,450 --> 00:37:19,580 So let's take the girls who are interested 664 00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,870 through a pledge process first. 665 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:24,370 She told me that herself. 666 00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:28,450 And so they had already did the credential paperwork 667 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:31,120 and turned in everything. 668 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,410 It was clearly approved to start in the fall, 669 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:39,370 because they were on the AKA headquarter website. 670 00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:42,160 The website was taken off the very next day. 671 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,750 So National covered up. 672 00:37:47,330 --> 00:37:51,080 They wanted this shoved underneath the carpet. 673 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,160 This organization, they have politicians, 674 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,830 AKA judges, there's AKA police. 675 00:37:56,910 --> 00:38:00,000 This organization is so big 676 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,120 that they did not want to be embarrassed in the newspaper, 677 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,410 in the news, in the community, nothing. 678 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:11,000 And so the organization did not want this to come out. 679 00:38:24,370 --> 00:38:27,700 I journeyed up to Chicago 680 00:38:27,830 --> 00:38:29,750 to hear the deposition. 681 00:38:29,830 --> 00:38:32,370 I said, "I wanna see them and their face 682 00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:34,790 as they tell the truth." 683 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,700 The first interview was with 684 00:38:41,790 --> 00:38:44,040 the vice president 685 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,950 of AKA. 686 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:50,830 She talked about that it was a city chapter 687 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:53,330 that no longer existed. 688 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:57,120 And then she begin to say that this line 689 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,160 wasn't an official line. 690 00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:01,330 All of a sudden, 691 00:39:01,410 --> 00:39:05,410 Kenitha's attorney pulls out a sheet of paper 692 00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:09,120 that state that they were financially aligned, 693 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,750 that they were an official chapter at Cal State, L.A., 694 00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:19,580 and that AKA had made that an official chapter also. 695 00:39:21,540 --> 00:39:25,080 So after their attorney saw the papers, 696 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,080 they said, "You can go back to L.A. 697 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,700 We're gonna settle with you." 698 00:39:29,790 --> 00:39:32,870 And they got caught up in a lie. 699 00:39:39,450 --> 00:39:41,120 I don't know the amount given. 700 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,040 I don't know--I could not-- 701 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,410 It wasn't something that I was interested in. 702 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,450 It's just something I wasn't-- I--I didn't care about. 703 00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:53,000 I wanted my sister back. 704 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,000 The only thing that the money can do is help Skyler. 705 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,660 But how much can you pay a child to live without your mom? 706 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,830 We're left grieving, you know? 707 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:07,330 She was a daughter, a daughter to this woman. 708 00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:09,830 a mother to my son, Skyler, 709 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:11,580 and my fiancée. 710 00:40:11,660 --> 00:40:15,620 We wanted to make sure that AKA didn't allow this chapter 711 00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:20,500 to still engage and recruit in violation of its policies. 712 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,540 Everybody knew what they were doing that night. 713 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,200 And no one... put a stop to it. 714 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,660 No one said, "Okay, this is enough." 715 00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:45,750 No one said, "Uh, she can't swim. 716 00:40:45,830 --> 00:40:47,790 She probably shouldn't be in the ocean." 717 00:40:47,870 --> 00:40:50,000 What is the sisterhood in that? 718 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:55,410 What is the progressiveness in terms of movement, 719 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:57,410 in education and all of these things 720 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:01,250 that the organizations say that they are about? 721 00:41:01,330 --> 00:41:02,870 Where is it? 722 00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:08,540 So I think that the illusion of it all is just that: 723 00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:11,870 An illusion. 724 00:41:11,950 --> 00:41:15,500 Karim: It's like nothing can bring that person back. 725 00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:19,080 I lost my best friend. We had, uh... 726 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,000 You know, we'd been through a lot in five years, you know? 727 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,200 It's your college sweetheart. 728 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,000 To this day, it's like, you know, 729 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,830 I thank God for me having that short time with her. 730 00:41:33,540 --> 00:41:37,870 I often wondered, where would she be right now? 731 00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:42,700 I know Kristin would be happy with her family and... 732 00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:45,450 especially with Skyler. 733 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:47,910 She would have been a great lawyer. 734 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,750 She was already an awesome daughter. 735 00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:55,950 Her mind was to save Kenitha. 736 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,080 She forgot herself, and she forgot her family. 737 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,450 [breaking up] She just wanted to save Kenitha. 738 00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:02,500 That's what gives me strength, 739 00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:06,160 knowing that my daughter still loved people. 740 00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:10,160 Michelle: It is truly a tragedy. 741 00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:12,000 We're a non-hazing organization 742 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,250 and it does not take away from the power or prestige 743 00:42:14,330 --> 00:42:16,750 of AKA or any D-9 organization 744 00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:19,500 if we practice what we preach. 745 00:42:19,540 --> 00:42:21,660 Our history makes us great. 746 00:42:21,660 --> 00:42:23,250 Our people make us great. 747 00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:26,410 What we continue to do in the community makes us great. 748 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:29,370 And we don't need hazing to make us great. 749 00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:31,790 I think we're living proof of that. 750 00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:36,750 There's a long history of racial incidents at Alabama. 751 00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:39,910 The N word was written in chalk all over campus. 752 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,750 A cross was burned on the lawn of a Black sorority. 753 00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:47,660 The real harms of "The Machine" 754 00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:50,790 come from institutionalized racism. 755 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:54,370 I do believe that if I was White, 756 00:42:54,450 --> 00:42:56,160 we wouldn't have had the same issue. 757 00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:59,370 "The Machine" is very much focused on White supremacy. 758 00:42:59,450 --> 00:43:02,500 These are people who would demonstrate 759 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:04,950 that they can punish those who defied them. 760 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,000 Captioning provided by A&E Networks. 55162

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