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The chimpanzee infant left with his mother is a thing, a lump.
Taken away, he acquires human psychological
tests, performances which are well-nigh unbelievable.
Nim was born at the primate center in Oklahoma
and I went out there to get him.
I had never been near that many chimpanzees.
It was frightening and intimidating.
And I knew Dr. Lemon and his wife were
watching me to see what kind of a mother would I be.
Carolyn, Mim's mother, was sitting right there, holding Mim.
and she knew what was going to happen better than I did.
She had had six of her previous babies removed, apparently in the same way.
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When the time came to take Nym
from his mother, she instantly
took on this drama, this feeling of something about to happen.
Dr. Lemon shot her with a tranquilizing gun.
Then said quick we have to get him before she falls
over and falls on him She was trying to protect him
and cradle him So he raced in and gotten him and
Handed Nim to me and Go back, you
know go back in the other space
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He was very dense, unlike a
human baby that has fat.
He was dense and hard.
He didn't struggle.
He didn't try to get away.
He just screamed.
As much as he may be screaming and protesting, he's also clinging.
He was attaching for dear life.
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Wouldn't it be exciting to communicate
with a chimp and find out what it was thinking?
If they could be taught to articulate what they were thinking
about, this would be an incredible expansion of human communication
and possibly give us some insight into how language, in fact, did evolve.
And that's essentially why I started Project M.
I don't know what was in his mind, but he just called.
He was asking me to bring an infant chimpanzee into my
home, raise this infant as if he
were a child, and see if
he acquired language as a function of being part of a family.
Stephanie was a former student of mine.
She had a large family of her own children and her husband's children.
Was exceedingly empathic and warm and a
chimp could not have a better better mother.
I know nothing about chimpanzees and I never actually sat
down to study them as one could have, as I should have
perhaps, but my appetite and my drive to have that
intimate relationship with an animal was, nothing would have stopped that.
The fact that we could share language with an animal
seemed like a very radical possibility at that time.
It had been known for some time that chimps
aren't able to make the sounds of human language.
So why not teach him sign language?
The real breakthrough would be if, like human
children, a chimpanzee could create grammatical sentences.
So without much preparation and without really asking
permission of my children, my husband, I said, fine, I can do it.
I even have the funds to do it with.
We don't need to worry about money.
And so it was launched.
The experiment was launched.
When Nim came to New York, he was barely two weeks old.
The idea was that he would be treated in every way like a human infant.
I had recently moved to a brownstone on the Upper West Side with my
three children and with my husband who had four children, Weir Lafarge.
Weir was a poet and a writer.
He redefined himself, became what at that time was called a rich hippie.
new husband, new family, new house.
And I brought Nim into that rather turbulent situation.
It just happened there was no family discussion
about should we shouldn't it was just oh, we're
having a chimp We're going to teach a sign language
And then the reality of it is sort of hitting you that
it's really, you know, it's alive, it's not a doll,
it's not a toy, it's not a human, it's a chimp, and
it's an amazing, sweet, little, newborn
baby, needy creature, so...
I think I fell in love instantly.
Nim didn't like Weir.
And Weir didn't like him.
Almost instantly I saw how complicated this was going to be.
I think Weir went along with it.
It was clearly Stephanie sort of saying, let's have a chimp.
It was the 70s.
I breastfed him for a couple of months.
It seemed completely natural.
Everything was about treating him like a human being.
By the time I had Nim, of course, I felt very comfortable with babies.
I wasn't prepared at all for the wild animal in him and the drive.
By the time he was three months old,
I think, and starting to be ambulatory,
just right there, nothing passive, nothing passive ever.
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You know, I think he figured that he could just
get in between Weir and Stephanie, um, on some level.
And we're put his arm around her and and Nim just you
know Half asleep having a bottle, you know Turn and bit.
We are on the arm quite hard
He didn't want Weir in the picture.
He wanted Stephanie Alford, you know, himself.
Weir definitely felt excluded.
Nim had just become part of my being.
That was incompatible with the role that I played as wife.
Oh
-Herb's coming. -Herb's coming.
Herb's coming.
Herb's coming was a big deal.
I would just go over and visit, just to see
what his state was and how he was getting along.
Herb was infinitely exciting.
I admired his intellect and his goals and his arrogance, all those things.
That was something.
that didn't sit right with me about him.
The people that I am the closest to throughout my life are
people that I have had some period of sexual contact with.
I don't think that the previous sexual relationship
between Herb and myself made a difference to the project
at all, other than it was part of
the glue that allowed it to happen.
Herb didn't come very much.
He wasn't part of the caretaking package at all.
Young newborn chimps are always raised by their mothers, not by their fathers.
And I didn't see any way of trying to
change, or any point in trying to change that.
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For better or worse, I had never regarded him as a child.
I regarded him as an intelligent, personable center of a scientific project.
I had an implicit faith that Nim would learn signs.
We had to wait and see.
How do they start teaching the child to sign?
Does the child just watch and whatever?
I don't know.
I mean, it was a problem. We were trying to teach this chimp sign
language and nobody in the house really was fluent in sign language.
We would mold his hand into the sign for drink,
which is this, and then give him the bottle to drink.
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It just happened.
It was just amazing.
And I thought, piece of cake.
I was absolutely delighted.
He picked up quite a few signs after that rather quickly.
Eat, Me, Nim were one of his
first signs, Hug was another one.
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And it was as if, then, okay, we're off now.
We just gotta build up the vocabulary.
As much as we were molding him, we were molding these
damn hands and all this stuff, he was starting to mold us.
He knew every dynamic that was in the room instantly.
He knew when you were upset, whatever had
happened in whatever, you know, 13-,-year-old's life.
And he would come over, and he would just come and sit
with you and hug you and then just kiss the tears away.
It was amazing.
Just unconditional.
He was my lifeline, he was my buddy, and he was bringing
something out in me, a freedom to defy expectation and authority.
His greatest focus of defiance was against Weir.
He would, you know, kind of pull books off the
shelves, and Weir liked his books a certain way.
When he saw Weir coming, he would really do it.
It was very focused, it was intentional.
Fuck you, I'm touching these.
It was a problem.
Weir was so impotent.
I mean, what could he do?
He'd chase him around, drop that, you know, blah, blah, blah.
I mean, he won every time.
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Nim saw Herb as his next adult male challenge.
I mean, that is the life that he's hardwired for, to take
on increasingly powerful male figures until he's the top.
When Herb would come over expecting to step in and have
control of Nim, and he couldn't and didn't, we loved it.
We loved it.
I cornered them.
I just went to pull him out of some hiding place, and he bit me.
Frankly, everybody in the family got a
kick out of him doing just what Herb hated.
No one ever put him in his place, and he
just grew more and more and more powerful.
And that was exciting to me.
We didn't have to try to control him in any way, in fact
we enjoyed just letting him hang out and see how it went.
Stephanie, being the kind of mother she
was, was not very concerned about discipline.
It was sort of the hippie mentality, and I think what
I would tell her would go in one ear and out the other.
Herb would have wanted a schedule and structure
and charted progress and notes and all of that.
I didn't supply that, I couldn't create that,
and I don't think Nim would have thrived in that.
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I was taking classes at Columbia University and there was a
small sign that said research assistant needed course credit granted.
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a man opened the door and he was completely breathless
he also he's one of those men who was balding on the top
so he had his hair pasted down but he was so upset and
disheveled that his hair was standing straight up on one side
He explained it was a language project and I
immediately understood the scientific relevance.
NIM was going to test the nature versus
nurture hypotheses that were prevailing in the time.
It really was at the cusp of science.
You know, some things are just
immediately obvious about someone from the beginning.
You know what kind of person you have.
I think she was 18, if I'm not mistaken.
At the time, Nim was in Stephanie LaFarge's house,
and my first job was to basically babysit, to go
to the house and ostensibly teach him sign language.
She came out of nowhere as a...
cute little thing from Ramapo.
When I got there, I was actually really surprised.
There was utter chaos.
There was nothing.
This was a scientific project.
There were no journals.
There were no logbooks.
They didn't know who was covering them, when they were going to be
covering them, who would be teaching them, when they would be teaching them.
They didn't know what they were going to teach them.
She quickly felt her power.
It was completely visible.
You know, everybody had to adapt to it.
She wanted that mother role.
This animal climbed the walls all
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ripped apart Stephanie's house all day.
The kinds of things she was exposing them to were atypical.
He loved driving fast in cars, he loved
motorcycles, he loved, you know, virtually anything thrilling.
He liked alcohol, you'd give him a sip and he'd want more.
We gave him puffs on a joint.
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We didn't have to treat him like a child.
We could expose him to the sensations that we enjoyed.
I had an instinctive sense that something was very amiss
here, that this is not the way
you teach a child language
or you interact with a child or you teach anything language.
When Nim began to discover my body, my
nakedness, it'd be curious, I mean, like a
child, he was uninterested, and then one day he was interested.
I never felt sexually engaged with him.
There was a sensuality, but Nim was a, you know, a preteen.
Stephanie was a graduate student in psychoanalysis.
Her questions had to do with the Oedipal Complex, and she
was interested in Nim's masturbation and how he masturbated.
I couldn't believe it.
I realized that I could not do what
I call good science in Stephanie's home.
It just wasn't conducive to that.
So I set up a classroom at Columbia.
He's gonna take Nim to school.
And I realize I'm starting to lose my role
as the person who knows the best what he needs.
We had to get him in a
context that was neutral, calming, soothing.
I just mapped out a teaching plan for Nim, and I did it.
She was so enthusiastic about this that I made her,
in a sense, the director of education, the curriculum.
I was feeling good about myself.
Also, I was succeeding with Nim.
I could see I was succeeding with Nim.
I can see it.
I can see that no one could hold a candle to me.
The only thing that mattered to him, it became more and more tense.
Words, words, words, words, words.
Word order, word order, word order.
He couldn't see anything else.
Herb started seeing the signs grow on that little graph.
Every day.
Every other day.
Every three days.
Laura taught him another sign.
Laura taught him another sign.
And I just went hell for leather.
Them signing was just almost exponentially increasing.
I was very happy
Words are a fucking nightmare when it
comes to closeness often And
here I was married to a poet working
for a linguist You know, I was
you know words were the became the enemy She started restricting
the times we can come in the house
She started throwing us out she
apparently was You know encouraged to believe that she was now the mother
Stephanie began to threaten to take Nim away from her.
And Herb started panicking.
I definitely initiated the move out of Stephanie's house.
I think she was initially quite resistant to it,
especially since she didn't know exactly how Nim was going to end up.
God had spoken.
That's what had happened.
That's what was going on.
And we didn't have control.
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So, my separation from him was just as abrupt, in
a way, at that moment, as his was from Carolyn's.
I was, um, ostensibly conscious, but I was
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I was as unaware and, you know,
-in-charge and helpless as she was.
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It was heartbreaking.
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saying goodbye.
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Part of me did not want him to learn language.
He was less with language than he was as his unique self.
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At that time, a very lucky thing happened.
I was aware that there was an estate that Columbia owned in
Riverdale, a very large estate that used to be the home of the president.
And I went to him with a proposition that if he
allowed me to raise the chimp there, I would pay for the heat.
And I said, sure.
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This was amazing.
This was a fairytale.
We got, it was a 28-acre estate surrounded by
lovely gardens and that allowed me to put up NIMS
teachers in magnificent surroundings and not pay any rent.
The wife is good.
Nim got out of the car, ran up to the front
door, rolled down the hill, and he was gone.
He was free.
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So there was no reaction at having taken him out of Stephanie's house
He was fine and it was like he had been there his whole life
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He certainly was a different chimpanzee
in this mansion than he was with Stephanie.
Um, so I sort of got into more, you know, interacting with him.
Herb's power as a professor, his
age completely impacted me.
He was my model.
We really clicked together.
I wanted so much to be a part of his world.
I wanted to be in that world of academia.
I had strong personal feelings about Laura.
But I don't think that in any way got in the way of our science.
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Some of the daily bodily requirements that
Nim had, had to be addressed and very quickly.
I eventually couldn't handle the diapers anymore.
He was getting bigger and he was eating more of our food.
So, pragmatically, I had to get him off those diapers.
I watched his facial expressions when he needed the potty
and I began to see it and grab him and bring him to the
potty He did actually did use the toilet correctly, but
it was certainly not as Reliable as what you'd see in a child
The idea was that I would live with Nim and I would
train him for a certain period of time in the house,
but then I would bring him in every day to Columbia University.
This was an experiment to teach or see if a chimpanzee can learn sign language.
I just thought it was really interesting,
intellectually interesting, interesting to
understand how much chimpanzees are like us and how much they're not.
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At that time, he was terribly cute and
getting little photos in New York Magazine.
There was a daily lesson plan, if you will.
We were supposed to teach these particular signs to Nim,
and they were supposed to also teach him everyday activities.
Dress yourself, undress yourself, this sort of thing.
Like children, after they learn a few
words, Nim has spontaneously put signs together.
In many instances, we allow Nim to use his own signs
that he almost invents, so long as they're consistent.
For example, this is the sign for play that he invented.
He's learning signs rapidly.
They're going up, up, up, up, up.
The project was literally humming.
Everything was going very smoothly.
I have a chimpanzee who was making history.
We did get a grant somewhere in that time.
The project had begun to enter the media, so there
was all this excitement and hype about the project.
We were thrilled.
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We've probably all seen performing chimpanzees on
television or in circuses, but Nim is no ordinary chimp.
Since he was a few weeks old, Nim has lived in a
close association with a group of scientists under
the direction of Dr. Herbert Terrace of Columbia University.
They're performing a unique experiment to try to determine
whether apes can be taught to communicate with humans using language.
How big will he be when he's full grown?
Oh, he's going to be big.
He's going to be about five feet tall, perhaps 150
pounds, and supposedly five to six times the strength of a man.
How are you going to be able to handle him then?
He had grown, I guess he was probably something like that.
And he, you know, if you had to hold him, you really had to hold him.
And he's gone from being this meek little
huggable toy to quite a robust young chimpanzee.
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His eye teeth were never taken out, which means
that he's got fangs, essentially, sitting here.
Extremely strong jaw.
If you didn't assert dominance in some
fashion, you were going to be in trouble eventually.
He could size somebody up in two seconds,
whether they were confident or secretly unconfident.
If I stood up too quickly, if I accidentally showed
him my back too quickly, if I had food and I wouldn't...
I didn't think to share it with him,
he'd cross that threshold and go into attack.
You could tell that he was getting an attitude.
The hair would go up on his arms, and you sort of get this look in his face.
When he would bark, I'd feel
it inside, the danger.
He had to lunge, the contact, the rip, the tear, and the release.
And he had to draw blood.
She did not tell me that in an alarming manner.
She was just reporting it.
Maybe I was just too, uh, looking ahead
with blinkers and not wanting to hear that.
This is 37 stitches.
Um, I had, uh, four here, uh, nine here.
This one, uh, sent me into the hospital.
This one actually was the most dangerous one because he hit a tendon.
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It's a lot of work to take care of an animal that's
not your species, who has that kind of energy level.
I probably didn't know the difference between chimpanzees and
monkeys, so I was as blind and as ignorant
and as naive as probably they came.
I was on a quick learning curve.
I have high energy and enthusiasm for a goal.
And he was my goal, apparently.
Joyce was a great teacher.
She signed.
She was completely dedicated and motivated.
She wanted to do this.
This was fantastic.
He bit me really hard, and I bit him on the ear right then and there.
And I said, that's over, you will never bite me again, and he never did.
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He did like a lot of human body contact.
Typically when we would leave the property, he would be really attached to it.
The world would scare him, so he would always come close.
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Bill and I hung tight with them.
We sort of hit it off on a lot of our different thinking.
She and I got together as a couple.
It helped that we liked each other and I think that that
helped Nim's life because we enjoyed each other's company so
we would do things together and we would hang out as kind of a unit.
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Oh, he loves the cats.
He was really, really tender with the cat, and he'd hold
it, and he just liked the feel, the touch, something about it.
He, like, would hold her and be, like, and you could see him,
like, shaking because he'd be, like, so excited that he had her.
Actually, like, kind of pushed her down on the ground and then
curled around her and just, like, laid there, like, I'm in heaven.
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I would say that it was fairly clear that there was
something more going on than the project, at least from his side.
And I think we all felt it and we kind of had I
don't want to say resentment But I was like, huh?
She's what he sort of stopped this Laura thing If someone
showed me some attention, I thought it meant that they cared for me
He had power.
I'm sure that, you know, unconsciously I took advantage of that.
If somebody admires you, why not?
So, yeah, we very briefly got involved and he
very, very briefly and abruptly got out of it.
The entanglement completely affected my decision to leave.
It's the humans I wanted to leave, not the chimp.
Herb didn't want it to happen.
He went into a very enthusiastic mode of
trying to convince me not to go.
I wasn't panicked.
I wasn't panicked that the project was just
going to grind to a halt because Laura left.
As I recall, Joyce and Bill pretty much took care of that.
So I didn't lose any crucial aspect of the project.
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I started to go to get the boxes to leave
and Nim pulled loose from the person's hand.
He climbs to the second floor of the house.
Then he must have lunged 25 feet.
He landed on me, he took my head, and
he started pounding it into the pavement.
It took four males to get him off me.
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He wasn't my child.
He wasn't my baby.
You can't give human nurturing to an animal that could kill you.
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One of the easy parts of the project was to advertise for teachers.
It's like, oh, this is nice.
I didn't set out to have women on the project,
predominantly, but it certainly turned out that way.
You know, if that's the way it turned out, that's the way it turned out.
I was a trained interpreter for the deaf.
When I set my mind to something, I get what I want.
I kept saying, I want to live here, when
am I moving in, when do I get to move in?
And I would annoy her.
And finally he let me move in.
Probably as time went on, it may become
more difficult for women to work with him.
He was gonna take advantage of the man.
He was big enough and strong enough that he could I
Mean it hurt his bites hurt you felt when he bit your
hand He got the nerve and you'd get a running shock up your arm
We had epic battles, though, but we made up.
You'd make that face and sign, sorry.
I'd say, well, if I sign this, you'll forgive me.
I had a relationship with a chimpanzee
and I had conversations with another species.
It's not just him signing that was important to me, it
was what he was thinking and experiencing because we
would talk when we would hang out, you know, we would
talk about the things we would see, the things we would hear.
As far as I'm concerned, our classroom was the house
and the yard and the field trips that we would take.
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Science is a very objective enterprise.
You can't have personal anecdotes of how I worked
with Nimma Padilla-Field as opposed to the classroom.
That's just of no interest to a scientist.
Joyce did not see anything special about the classroom.
Hated it.
Hated it. Hated it. He hated it.
We hated it. That's not surprising, because she didn't
get the results in the classroom that I was hoping for.
Hey, do you know what time it is?
Yeah. Going into a dungeon of a classroom, which
it really was, I mean, the thing was 15 feet
square, including the observation booth and everything else.
No windows, no place really to have any activity.
Trying to get Nim's attention was a bit of a
struggle, and he would have rather been doing something else.
Pay attention to me.
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So this is a sign for dirty, so we used it
for toilet for him because it's a contact sign.
He would jump through the signs that I asked
him to jump through and then he would have had
enough and he would say I need to go to the bathroom
Bye.
And that's when I knew, you little bugger.
You used that sign because you knew it would
make us leave there and get us out of there.
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He was growing smarter and smarter.
And smarter in the sense of recognizing situations that he
could take advantage of, when he could get what he wanted.
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He was starting to discover himself.
There was a big rock in the front yard, and he used to like to bump it.
I don't know.
You're gonna hurt yourself.
That's a rock.
Like, look at himself.
As this whole thing with the physicality became, you
know, an issue, he was much more cautious, I think, about
letting the cats around him and letting him play with the cats.
He would even try to not engage directly in sexual relationships with
the animals, but definitely to bring them to him and to his penis area.
And I just said, no, that's not what they're there for.
We realized, I think all of us, that it was
becoming increasingly difficult to pursue the experiment.
Nim was scratching hard, he was biting
harder, biting more often, biting more people.
We hadn't mentioned the growing concern that we had about how to deal with Nim.
Dr. Terrace was pretty much an absentee landlord.
Herb was never alone with Nim, and Herb
never had to spend any kind of time with Nim.
Once in a while, you know, photo shoots for him to
either take photos or for him to have photos taken of him.
Yes, there were occasional bites, I imagine they
increased in frequency just because Nim's getting older.
In that sense, it was becoming more chimp-like.
But it didn't seem to be a cause for alarm at that point.
It was the end of July, it was July 28th and
Bill had him and we did the-to-body transfer.
I mean you're holding, you're holding them and the other person
comes up and you just kind of hand the chimp to the other person.
And I said come on and I got the tether, you know,
you've got the loop first and I then tied it to my belt.
Come here and he came over and he put his arms around me.
He just crunched my face it just happened
And I grabbed Nim and just dragged him into the house.
Sorry, sorry, sorry, no, no, no, no.
And I passed that armor with that mirror, and I saw all this blood.
He had bit through my cheek, almost to the inside of my mouth.
It was folded over, so you could see inside my face.
I don't recall if she went to the emergency
room, but I think that something like that happened.
It was just it was just bad.
I was probably worried that you would sue
me Or this would become a public.
This would become public knowledge about how
Life-threatening the project might be they couldn't
sew it because of the infection and a risk of
infection So I had an open gaping wound on my face for three months
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And when I got out of the hospital, I
said, you know, I I want to see him he went.
Oh And he went to reach for my face again.
Well, that's it.
I don't need closure now.
I'm out of here.
I was
I'm tenacious and I didn't want to let go.
Sort of like breaking up with a bad boyfriend.
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I was sorry that it came to that but you just
don't know how NIM is going to change and you just
can't count on having outstanding teachers all the time.
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I felt I was spreading myself too thinly and
experiencing too much stress and not enough good results.
Nobody keeps a chimp for more than five years
because at five years they don't know their own
strength and they can do a lot of damage to people.
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He called us together and dropped the bomb and said it's over.
I was one very angry
You don't say, we're not doing this anymore.
And because Herb had that card to play, he
played it because he was in the power seat.
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I think I said there's no point of this going on scientifically.
I felt that NIMH had progressed a lot and we
hadn't had a chance to really analyze our data.
I just knew that we had reams of data.
This whole mass of data that needed to be organized
and that was going to be a long and tedious process.
The fundamental question was, can a chimpanzee create a sentence?
I don't think I had any definitive conclusion to that.
We had to wait and see.
It's kind of like, you know, you get you're almost there and you
feel like there's gonna be a conclusion
and It's like okay It's over
I thought that the surroundings in which he was born
would provide the most psychological support for them.
I felt the basic needs would be taken care of.
So, once I got the lemon to agree to take it back, that was it.
I hope he'll be okay.
That's why I want to go with him.
I hope that I'll be able to introduce him to his new life,
but still have an old part of his life with him, namely me.
And he can get used to it, and I can fade out, and he'll be fine.
It won't just be an abrupt break between old and new.
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and we'd getting him up early one morning.
He gets a shot and he's out.
I chartered a plane and hired a pilot.
and then was given tranquilizers to reduce
the possibility of his getting out of hand.
If he was tranquilized, he'd be easy to control and not
do any damage to the plane, which could be quite dangerous.
So that's how we get him to Oklahoma.
It was just a nasty...
Very deceitful.
The question is what was going to happen in Oklahoma,
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didn't have any sense of that so that was my concern
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Holy shit, was my first thought.
And I think his reaction was, holy shit, too.
Like he knew we were, he knew it was bad.
And he'd never seen a chimp before and he was holding on tight
You look around, you see cages, and you
hear the sounds of a lot of chimpanzees.
Would I have envisioned this when I started
this project, that he ever would end up there?
No.
It turned out to be a surprisingly more primitive facility than I remembered.
Because our cages were cages.
They weren't just a room with a locked door.
They were cages.
I mean, it looked like a prison.
Really stark, ugly, dark, dank prison.
They had a chain around their neck with a lock.
Should you get into a bad fight, you
could grab the chain and keep them off of you.
It was like prison behavior.
We had to put up an electric fence around the island
because we had had several murders and two suicides.
They'd just push them out into the water.
Chips can't swim.
Dr. Lemon ran the place.
I had an immediate horrible reaction.
He walked around with a cattle prod.
I remember trying to push him away because I knew what he was going to do.
And he was screaming and holding on to me very tightly.
And the only reason he let go was
because he got stabbed with the electric prop.
Come here, Mac.
Mac, come here, Mac.
Come here, come here.
The reasoning behind the whole Mac-Nim
interaction was that Mac was not dangerous.
He was small, so he was
not an aggressive, dominant chimp.
So he was the perfect one for Nim to start with.
-Oh, she's coming. -Hey, do it.
-See ya, man. -See ya.
-Hey, Mac. -Uh-uh.
Bah.
Oh
How did you expect Nim to react to his first meeting with another champion?
I think what happened was that Nim was very
apprehensive about Mac and he took his time and
then when he was ready, you know, he and Mac got it off.
I feel very good about this, because I can leave now knowing
that Nim has a friend, and he's going to worry less about his
human companions, and have at least one other chimp to turn to.
It was time to leave, and that's when I took him and put him in the cage.
Sure, I didn't want Joyce doing it, so I just said, well, I'm gonna go do it.
I didn't want Terrace doing it.
Um, so... I just decided I was gonna do it.
You know we coaxed him down there and then Because he trusted us.
I just let him in there and took the lead and tied it around the
far end of the cage and Say goodbye and walked out and shut the door
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He was sort of hooting and trying to come after me because
he didn't really know where he was, but I just walked away.
And that way it wasn't like an Iran.
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I did feel badly.
I felt in a certain basic sense that was not the right
thing to do to somebody, you know We've been part of
my life for so many years And that I was definitely
doing Something that he somehow would feel was unjust or wrong
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He had a little doll or something that I think I left.
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I strongly believe that we made a commitment to him, and we failed.
We did a huge disservice to that soul and shame on us
Assumed, I guess, wrongly, that Nim was gonna
come back and he was gonna be celebrated in the
sense that he was gonna be the Great Signing Chimp.
No, exactly the opposite.
Exactly the opposite.
Nim in the cage.
No special treatment.
No yogurt.
No granola.
No...
None of that.
It's pretty traumatic for the chimp.
They curl up and lay down.
They lose interest in food, they're just...
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It was a bad start with them, and I the chimp is very
upset And he just looks at me, and he jumps and lunches me
and bites through an artery right in here I Did use a small shop?
He had to grow up and not be a single spoiled child anymore.
So you gotta socialize, work on his chimpanzee and manners.
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Everybody needs a job, meaning and purpose.
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Had them out, they would help me in the big
kitchen where we prepped our food and did stuff.
They'd sweep.
Nim was an impulsive hand washer.
He'd do dishes.
Vanessa liked to dust.
Little Mac liked to clean cages and wear my boots.
This was a special group of chimps, you know, they weren't
ordinary chimps, you know, they had the capacity for higher consciousness.
Terrence came back a year later.
Herb arrived with still photographers and cameras and that sort of thing.
It was a shoot and it was arranged as such.
And there was no question that he was very happy that he could see me again.
There was no anger that, why did you leave me here?
It was just, hey, that's great, I want to see him again.
You could see that he was like, holy shit, I'm going back to New York.
It was like that.
Like he was going to be rescued.
It was kind of sad.
I played with him.
We got into games of signing.
I remember I got him to sign hug.
I got him to sign herb.
In fact, I can get almost any sign out of him.
I didn't have to go through a drill.
So it was a very entertaining, comfortable afternoon.
No bad behavior of any kind.
At the end of the day, Lexetta's watch gives me nimback and flies off.
And it's gone.
Next morning, he barely ate.
He just started to crater.
Herb never came back.
I thought, I'm gonna become Nim's friend, and
I'm gonna hang with Nim, and we'll see what happens.
I mean, there wasn't much I could do for
him, in terms of the cage, but get him out.
Oh, you saw that, huh?
See you later, Nan.
We just liked each other right off, and sometimes it's like that.
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chimps aren't humans.
You have to kind of understand chimps to be able
to understand how to work with them and be with them.
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I took him out on walks, I didn't bring food, I
didn't do the kind of things that would interrupt
the relationship or the building of the relationship.
you know he grows on you quick.
He was so charming.
I mean it didn't occur to me that
animals had that kind of personality like ours.
And you had to be two of heart.
You had to be two of heart.
If you had dark places in you, they'd know it.
They wouldn't like it.
Good morning. With us this morning is Dr. Herbert
Terras, a professor of psychology at Columbia University.
For several years, Dr. Terras was in charge of an experiment where
he and several other human beings tried to teach a chimpanzee
named Nim, the sign language of the deaf, but now in a book just
published, which is called Nim, you're saying, Dr. Terras, that
these experiments don't prove as much as you had originally thought they did?
I changed my mind about the data.
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I suddenly saw what the key to this was.
Nim was a brilliant beggar.
He learned how to beg, and he could work his teachers and
always get what he wanted by moving his hands in different ways.
And most of the time, he moved his hands in the ways that
the teacher suggested, and the motive of his signing was
not to say, What a nice cat you have over there, but I want it.
When the experiments were over, you returned Nim to the
primate colony where he was born, and a year after that,
you went back for a visit, and we came along with a camera.
You and he are talking in sign language here, right?
Right. And here we have it in slow motion.
What's Nim saying?
He's saying, Give Nim banana.
Why is it that you're saying that he can't speak like a human being?
Well, a string of signs is not necessarily a sentence.
You can learn a list of words by rote, and that
says nothing about your ability to use a grammar.
Aren't you very disappointed that you spent all this time and all this money?
Well, it would have been very electrifying news, almost like
communicating with a creature from out of space if I could
show that another organism could use language the way humans have.
-But it didn't work. -It didn't work.
Thank you very much, Dr. Terrison.
I hope somebody can still talk to Nim and Annie.
I didn't care about the language
argument after a while, it didn't matter to me.
He might not have had sentences or grammar, but there's no
question that there was communication going on, and I saw it clearly.
He talked about the trees, the berries that he found.
He liked to play.
Favorite song, play.
Ha, ha, ha, ha!
Holy shit, he doesn't know which one to grab.
He knew what pop was, or hash, or whatever.
And, uh, he wanted to smoke a joint.
stone,
smoke.
Now.
When we went out on walks with Nim, Nim was one of us.
If we smoked a joint, he smoked it with
us, in a circle, and we handed it to him.
Chimps are like us.
They're hedonistic. They like to do pleasurable things.
They like to, you know, they like to have fun and hell, who doesn't?
And there's something in marijuana that...
They weren't aggressive.
You talk less, you do different things.
You enjoy each other.
Lily and Nim lived together in the pig barn.
Both of them didn't have many chimp
friends, and then they became friends.
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They were seen copulating and we think Nim
might have been the father of Lily's baby.
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The best time of my life.
I still say that I've never had such a good time
except maybe at a Grateful Dead show Pretty close.
I don't even know which one I actually being with Nim.
I'd rather be with Nim than Jerry And that's for me.
That's that's saying something
-That's real? -Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a banana?
You want to eat the shit?
That's a shoe.
This is a bear shoe.
And that's when Mahoney started showing up.
He was standing around, looking at chimps and writing in his
pad and whatever, and when someone, when I found out who he
was, and I'm sure it didn't take long for me to figure it out, I was...
Obviously, he was checking out the chimps for the lab.
LEMSIP is best known by its acronym,-I-P, which is
Laboratory for Experimental Medicine and Surgery in Primates.
He represented the devil to me.
Most of the work that we did with the chimpanzees, for example, was
testing various candidate vaccines for,
like, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, HIV, AIDS.
I think it's very difficult to fund the kinds of
research that I happen to be very much interested in.
It's been difficult to fund social research in general.
We heard about Dr. Lemon's problems, which were financial.
It was finally arranged that, yes, we
would take a very large part of their colony.
I thought Lemon was trying to scare the university.
I thought they would go, Oh, gosh, you can't just hold a medical lab.
We've got to do something.
I thought the community would rise itself up.
Bob and I tried so hard with public appeal for
something for the chimps, and there was no response.
And then shortly after that, the chimps were indeed sold.
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Of the chimps that are being sent off to the lab today,
how many of them were subjects of the signing research?
Only one was restricted to signing research.
This is NIMM.
As a chimp you've got no way of knowing what's happening to you.
You're just suddenly cut off from seeing everything outside
Suddenly after a day and a half of constant driving you
you get out the other end and you're in another sort of room
I wouldn't say they were jumping with joy
to find themselves in a new place.
Come on, come on, one more time, one more time.
I took on the role of being the one who chose
which animals would go into which types of study.
And I hated it
You want to go away with Spike?
Tulip?
These animals will be used on hepatitis vaccine safety tests.
It is a federal law that before a new batch of vaccine can be
released on the American market, it must be tested for chimpanzees.
There's no way, in all honesty, there's no way you can
carry out research on animals and for it to be humane.
It can't be humane because you already put them in a cage.
That was already the first step and from there on it's downhill.
We realized that certain of the Oklahoma chimps
could use sign language and were trying to sign with us.
What we did was we wrote down on sheets of paper, which we
posted all over the place on doors and walls and everywhere we
could find, of certain signs and it was hoped that as time went
by, everyone would pick up at least a certain amount of sign language.
I didn't see Nim as special
above anyone else in the
group because they were all going through the same thing.
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I made a big, big stink about it in every way I could.
I called the press.
We bitched as much as we could.
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The student, Bob Ingersoll, he used to hound me every
chance he got and I would start to get really annoyed.
And then it dawned on me that he was the only one who cared.
Nobody, nobody except the press helped us.
Is there anything that you would consider
doing to prevent what is going to happen to him?
Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do because legally Nim is not mine.
Nim was loaned to me for the duration of my project.
That project ran out of funds.
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Somebody at the Boston Globe told me to read the front page story on that day.
He said, I think you'd be interested and I know you take unusual cases.
As a human being, I thought it was a kind of esoteric,
unique form of animal cruelty, all the worse for that.
And as a lawyer, I thought it was just plain illegal.
If the facts are, as I'm being told, that this young chimp was
brought up from infancy in a human family, you can't stick him into a
little cage in some horrible medical lab and use him for medical experiments.
It's per se animal cruelty.
Early on, I decided this.
If this animal has been deliberately brought up from
infanthood to think of himself as human, then if I'm
going to represent him, I have to treat him like a human client.
Give him his day in court.
Henry and I, Mr. Herman, were in communication pretty much every day.
He used a really cool strategy, actually.
He said, hey, this chimp can speak for himself.
Let's bring him into court and let him talk.
What I had ready as a trial exhibit was a steel cage and a
couple of strong guys with a pole ready to carry it into court,
and I was gonna get Nim to go into a frenzy and signal out, out, out.
And I believe the judge said something to the effect
that I'm not letting a fucking chimpanzee come in here
and make a mockery of my courtroom or something to that effect.
And that's when I said I'm gonna bring in
effect a habeas corpus petition on behalf of Chimp.
Bring him to court.
Our opponents were pig-headed, but they weren't stupid.
They realized that win, lose, or draw, once I got into
court, they'd be losing, because even if the judge
refused to hear them, the media attention would have been devastated.
And the dean of the medical faculty said, That's it.
Get that chimp out of here.
Before anything could happen, swooping down
like in some Wagnerian drama, comes Cleveland Amory.
I want this to be a place where those animals that have
been abused, that have been misused, will finally and
forever have a place that they never will have to fear again.
Mr. Amory had, up until then, perhaps a well-deserved
reputation for doing important work for animal rights.
And he just went and buys the chimp, takes him to his black
horse ranch, or whatever it was called, and says, I am saving Nim.
Lead Len Amory to the rescue again.
Nim will live here for the rest of his natural life.
Here my story ends, my troubles are over, and I am at home.
And that's what it says as you drive into Black Beauty Ranch.
He was the only animal we ever bought, and we didn't
know a thing about chimpanzees, but we just thought it
was better, what we could do was better than where he was.
It was never meant to be a home for caged animals.
It is really a home for abused and abandoned equine animals.
That's animals just with hooves.
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We were aghast that he would just pick up this chimp,
transport him to a horse ranch somewhere in the middle of
nowhere, and there was nobody there who knew how to take care of a chimp.
We brought him to Black Beauty and built a house for him.
It was a big kind of a square place and it had a
porch outside so that he could go outside and he
had all sorts of toys to play with, but it was solitary.
Chimps are social animals, and you can't just put
one chimp in a box and expect everything to be cool.
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Some of the time was sitting like this in the
corner and you just thought what is he thinking?
What is he missing?
What can we do? Will you please be sure
to stop off here in the nation's capital?
We had a TV down and then he broke that and then we put one
up in the ceiling and he found a way to get there Well,
okay, you don't get a television if that's gonna be your attitude
I wrote letters to Cleveland, bitching at him
about how leaving Nim there alone was virtually torture.
Not only did they not care what I thought,
they wanted me as far away from them as possible.
And they wanted to make that pretty clear.
And they did make that pretty clear.
You know, if you come here, you'll be arrested.
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I felt it, you know, and I just
wanted to, like, I don't know, I...
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He got out a number of times.
What he wanted to do was go in the ranch house.
Be in the ranch house, be with people, sleep in a bed.
We had a bed for him in his house.
We never slept in the bed in his house.
One time when he came in the house, there was a
little white poodle thing and just barked and
barked and barked at this Chimpanzee coming through the door.
He just picked it up and swung up against the wall He meant to shut the dog up.
But of course he killed the dog There was another time when he went
in the house and he picked up a chair and threw it through the window
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This this is a very miserable chimpanzee, you know
He'd had such a checkered life and he'd
gone from here to here to here to here to here.
They should be left.
They should not be taken away from their mothers in the first place.
I knew that Nim was there.
I didn't know anything about the quality of his life there.
I heard good things and bad things and so on.
And I thought, why not go?
So we all flew out to Texas, we go to the
ranch, we meet the people taking care of him.
He was alone, he was the only chimp there.
I happened to be looking at him when Stephanie got out of
the car and he saw her and he recognized her right away and
The look on his face was just oh now you come now you come now.
I've been through all this and now you come
He definitely recognized us whether he was happy to see us.
I don't know
He wasn't particularly attractive to me now that he was an adult chimpanzee.
I didn't have a, oh, isn't he beautiful or anything like that.
He was, he was, I didn't know him.
My mother decides that she wants to go into the enclosure with
him, which didn't, which happened sort of, I'm going to go in with him.
We said to her, he doesn't look like he's going to
welcome you, so maybe you shouldn't go into his facility.
I was curious.
Is he going to sign? What's going to happen?
What's it going to be like?
Stephanie, please don't go in there.
He's not in a good mood.
You know, you can tell he's not in a good mood.
I opened the gate and walked in.
And then went up to the, like, first and a
half story, something like that, pretty high up.
And I realized how much danger I was in.
He came down, and then it was a blur.
Grabbed her by the ankle and he starts dragging her
running back and forth literally like a rag doll
just pulling her back forth I think he's gonna kill her.
He was gonna swing her against the wall and then swing her
against the wall again There was nothing loving about he was furious
I remember being in discussions about
getting the gun or not getting the gun, yeah.
So they got a gun.
No, he's not gonna kill her.
He's just really pissed off
Things dissipate and he sort of wandered off and I was able to
get out of door I have no idea how long the whole thing lasted
The fact that he didn't kill her meant a lot because he could
have And he would have been dead because they would have shot him
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I had abandoned him and he had managed to grow up
and I had walked back in as if I had not abandoned him.
And he said, no, this is my space, I'm going to
put you in your place, but I'm not going to hurt you.
We had done so much damage, removing him
from what his life should have been.
We exploited his human-like nature without regard to his chimpanzee nature.
We were co-opting him right from the beginning.
It was wrong.
About a year after Nim was sold to the fund they
purchased a female chimpanzee to be with him Around
ten years after that I heard she was in failing health.
I was worried that Nim was gonna be on his own again That same
time I was told that a new guy had taken over the ranch and his
name was Chris Byrne And so I approached Chris about visiting Nim
And once I met Chris, I was really, really
reassured that things were going to be much better for Nim.
Look, Nim.
Somebody's come to see you.
Oh, he's got his tackles up.
-Hey, it's okay. -Hi, Nam.
What's up, bud?
Nam. He's gonna do a couple of minutes of this for you.
Oh, that's okay.
Nam!
What's up, bud?
Yeah, I know, buddy.
Who am I?
Who am I?
Hey, who are you?
Play, play.
Oh, damn it.
I said to Chris, I have a way to help you and I know I
can help you to get out of the chimps So let's work together
Things are improving.
Things are way improving.
It's taken a while, though.
It's taken a long time.
I've had many easy moments.
On August the 10th, 1995, the dean of NYU Medical
Center announced that the Clemson would be closed.
And I thought, I'm gonna try and save as many of
the chimps as I can, but in a very quiet way, secretly.
Hey, Lulu.
What's up, girl?
How you doing?
That's where Bob came in through the secret network.
What's up, Nim?
Who is this over here?
Who is this over here, Nim?
Who is it?
This is gonna be your new roommate.
I love you.
so I can get you down to work.
Okay, we'll do it.
How do you think, Midge?
I told you it would be nice, didn't I?
Jim Mahoney moved literally 50, 60 chimps.
And we did indeed get two chimps from
Lemsep through Mahoney to Black Beauty Ranch.
Midge was a youngish adult male
and Lulu was very gentle.
Lulu immediately went to her defense, and Nim came over.
Very good, Lulu.
She's so good.
Yeah, you're a friend, Lulu.
I think Mitch and Lulu really helped him out enormously.
-What? -Now you're making noises for it.
What's the name of this?
Hey, I'm Nims.
-Nims what? -What? -Soda pop?
I'm not... Things were as good as could be expected
based on everything you know that had gone on previous.
Oh, yeah, that's so good, Nim.
Isn't it good?
It wasn't exactly perfect, but it was pretty damn good.
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