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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,960 In my search for the perfect curry, I've read quite a bit about India, 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,280 and I've noticed that the most consistently over-used phrase 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,000 from travel writers has been "a land of contrasts". 4 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:20,760 Well, indeed it is, 5 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,760 and sometimes I find the contrasts quite mind-boggling. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,200 In a country where it seems to me 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,360 that a good chunk of the population doesn't even have a roof over its head, 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,520 a politician from Lucknow builds this. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,000 Acres upon acres of huge stone-carved elephants, 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:43,600 along with a memorial featuring her proudly clutching a designer handbag. 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,240 When I asked some local people about this, 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,880 they just shrugged good-humouredly and said, 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,880 "Well, that's just how it is here." 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,480 And indeed there's no getting away from it. 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,760 India really is a land of contrasts. 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,520 THEY SING 17 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,520 MAN: That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky! 18 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,560 This is Mayo College. 19 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,720 It's known as the Eton of the East. 20 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 It was built by the British in 1870, 21 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,360 by the then Viceroy of India, Lord Mayo, 22 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,520 purely and simply to educate the sons of the landed gentry, 23 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,240 the Rajputs and the Maharajas. 24 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,320 When you think about it, it's rather a clever move, 25 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,760 because these boys will grow up to be powerful rulers, 26 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,440 and hopefully will have ingrained in them 27 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,160 a love and understanding of the ways of the British, 28 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,480 which means, of course, having allies in high places. 29 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,800 BELL RINGS 30 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,040 We thank God for what we have received. Amen. 31 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,520 ALL: Amen. 32 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,480 Well, today we've got Western food. 33 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,840 We're starting with cream of vegetable soup, 34 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,800 then we've got carrot and green pea saute, 35 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,280 followed by cauliflower and white sauce, veg fried rice, 36 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,200 grilled paneer, veg cutlet, cabbage salad, 37 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,920 a dinner roll, bread, butter and sauce - not quite sure what the sauce is - 38 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:00,160 and cake and custard for a pudding. 39 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,960 I've been talking to one or two of the chefs here, 40 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,600 through an interpreter of course, and I've discovered that 41 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,080 many of them go back two or three generations of cooking here, 42 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,040 and I really like that about a lot of Indian kitchens I've been in, 43 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,040 that people hand over the jobs. 44 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,960 Would it were thus back in Padstow, is all I have to say. 45 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,480 But none of them, sadly, go back to 1875 46 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:31,640 when the college opened, and when the first student arrived. 47 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:37,000 And naturally he arrived with a whole entourage of servants, 48 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,200 tutors, guards 49 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,760 and 150 elephants. 50 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Well, it's been a long time since I've had a school dinner - 51 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,080 probably too long a time, to be honest - 52 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,440 but I'm really enjoying this. 53 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,520 It's nicely cooked, it's nicely seasoned. 54 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,960 They've just given me some chopped liver, which is apparently the school... 55 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,880 This is a school favourite, isn't it? 56 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,280 The chopped liver on toast 57 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,720 dates back from the Raj days, I guess, 58 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 so well pleased. 59 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,840 Truth to tell, I was a bit surprised 60 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:26,800 not to have a luxuriant curry sauce or a spicy biryani, 61 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,120 but I was more interested in what the pupils felt about food, 62 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 because if Mayo School is anything like our Eton, 63 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,840 the future rulers could well come from here and - who knows? - 64 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:42,560 that might have some significant bearing on India's culinary future. 65 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Well, I need to explain to you, the reason I'm here 66 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,360 is I make programmes about food. I'm a chef back in England. 67 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,560 And I'm very keen to talk to you, because... 68 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,360 First of all, hands up who likes pizzas? 69 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,920 Well, there you go. 70 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,040 I mean, it's a bit of a sort of litmus test because, I feel if I'm asking you, 71 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,360 it's sort of giving me an idea of the way the country's going, 72 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,200 the younger people, about what you might be eating in the future. 73 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,440 I mean, how do you feel about your traditional food, then? 74 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,320 If you go out for pizzas on a dinner, that's not a dinner. 75 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,480 Going for a dinner means going to a proper Indian restaurant 76 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,840 and having a proper meal. 77 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:24,000 Indian food is what gives us, like, real satisfaction, 78 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,920 and that's when we feel that... 79 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,640 - we have had something. - It's filling, it's filling. 80 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,880 But how do you see the food of India changing in the next 20, 30 years? 81 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,400 There's a thing in India, every ten kilometres you go, 82 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,720 the dialect changes, the water changes, and the food habit changes. 83 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:44,480 So, you know, we have got a very diverse, very diverse country, 84 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,960 so it will take some time to change. 85 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,720 But, you know, the franchises, they're coming. 86 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,800 We have McDonald's, you know, who's adjusting to our country, 87 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,960 and they put up a vegetarian restaurant, 88 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,920 which is like the first veg restaurant... 89 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,840 first veg McDonald's in the whole world. 90 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:03,640 The thing is, we really value our traditional food. 91 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,080 We really love it, and that's one thing that we're going to hold onto, 92 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,840 because given a choice between a pizza and a normal Indian filling meal, 93 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,760 I would go for an Indian meal any time, anywhere. 94 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Fantastic! 95 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,560 I've just been watching some polo ponies over at Mayo School 96 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,720 and just came by here, and just thought, well, I've got to show this 97 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,360 cos it just shows the complete contrast there is in India 98 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,520 between the rich and the poor. 99 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,520 I mean, this looks dreadful to anybody's view, 100 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,480 and over here, we've got a brand-new cinema complex nearing completion. 101 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,600 But that's India, I mean, there's nothing you can do about it. 102 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Interestingly, I was re-reading a book by Mark Tully 103 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,400 called No Full Stops In India, which I've always enjoyed, 104 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,960 and right at the beginning he says people go to his apartment in Delhi 105 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,760 and say, "How do you cope with the poverty?" 106 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,600 And he just replies, "I don't have to. The poor do." 107 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Rajasthan is the land of the rajahs, the land of the kings. 108 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,800 It's so different from the lush south. 109 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,240 This is mostly desert - 110 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,600 mile after mile of sand and scrub, goats and shacks. 111 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,160 HORN BLARES 112 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,480 When I had the idea of doing a series about India, 113 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 I thought it'd be really nice to drive around India myself. 114 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,200 I'm not sure that the crew would've been 115 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,320 so wholeheartedly in approval of that. 116 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,080 In some of the past series, 117 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,720 maybe my driving skills aren't so wonderful, 118 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,520 but in India it's a total no-no. 119 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,920 I believe there's some sort of order, 120 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,240 but when you see an enormous truck laden with sacks 121 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,800 or bales of wood or bales of straw coming straight at you, 122 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,200 and at the last minute it goes off in one direction, 123 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,800 - you just go... - HORN BLARES 124 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,800 As a passenger it is truly scary at times. 125 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Wherever I go in the world, 126 00:08:35,560 --> 00:08:38,840 I always try to stop at a motorway service station, 127 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,880 because I think the food there is a sort of culinary litmus test, 128 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,520 and sometimes it's a lot better than posh restaurants. 129 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,240 Well, I think I'll go for the... tarka dhal. 130 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,280 I just want dhal and roti really, and a cup of masala chai. 131 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,240 Sweet spiced tea will be perfect just for a light lunch. 132 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,640 This, I think I'm right in saying, is your average trucker's lunch, 133 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,440 a vegetable dhal with bread or roti. 134 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,800 Certain members of the film crew were wondering 135 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,120 if they did two sausages, baked beans, fried eggs, at least three rashers, 136 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,920 hash browns and a cup of tea. 137 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,000 Great! 138 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,360 I told them not to be so silly. 139 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,320 Like when we're filming in places like France or Spain, 140 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:44,360 we like to stop where the truck drivers stop cos you get the best meal. 141 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,280 I'm thinking the same is probably true here in India. 142 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,640 I must say this is really good, this dhal. 143 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,400 As is the roti. 144 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,280 I've just chosen a very simple salad of onion and chillies, which I love. 145 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Very simple, wholesome food. 146 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,080 Lovely. 147 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,480 I really like these standard salads in India, 148 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,600 which is basically onion and chilli, but because I'm European 149 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,040 they normally just give me a tomato and cucumber salad 150 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,320 and I have to say, "No, no, no, I want the chilli." 151 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,880 HORNS TOOT 152 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:33,200 As soon as I saw this, I thought of that all-powerful Mogul emperor 153 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,480 immortalised by Coleridge in his famous unfinished poem. 154 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,480 "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan A stately pleasure-dome decree, 155 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,280 "Where Alph, the sacred river, ran, 156 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,840 "Through caverns measureless to man, 157 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,720 "Down to a sunless sea." 158 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,400 Now, I know that's about a place in China, 159 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,920 but it's all about the fact that these Mogul rulers, 160 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,040 who dominated Northern India, could do pretty much as they liked. 161 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,760 And this, the Amer Fort, epitomises all that power. 162 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,080 But the reason I'm here is that there's a restaurant just opened 163 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,400 by an extremely wealthy man, 164 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,000 who reminds me of what a Mogul emperor was probably like, 165 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Sanjiv Bali. 166 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,160 You must be Sanjiv. 167 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,440 How are you? 168 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,600 Wow! I'm very well. I mean, this is amazing! 169 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,760 They told me it was going to be quite something, 170 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,560 but I had no idea how incredibly... 171 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:38,320 - Great to have you here. - Thank you very much. 172 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,200 He fought tooth and nail with the local authorities 173 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,720 to open his prize restaurant within the fort. 174 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,960 He's really proud of his kitchen, 175 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,360 recreating long-forgotten local recipes. 176 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,160 I asked him to cook his favourite one, jungli maas. 177 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Jungli meaning jungle, and maas meaning meat - jungle meat. 178 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,240 - I think it's called jungle maas. - Jungle maas. 179 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,400 When you went on a hunt 180 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,280 and you basically did only five things to make this dish. 181 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Very simple in the jungle, and it was more fun because you did it yourself. 182 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,960 It used to be the game meat, but now we're using lamb. 183 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,120 So I'm told hunting's banned now in India. 184 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,520 - Yeah. - Why is that, then? 185 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,240 It was basically because 186 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,280 people were just killing animals left, right and centre, 187 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,960 and there was no balance left. 188 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,000 And earlier it was done for a sport, 189 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,200 when you went out hunting and you killed what you like to eat, 190 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,320 and to serve your guests and enjoy with the family. 191 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,200 But suddenly people were not bothered, 192 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,760 they would just go randomly killing across the board. 193 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,520 That's why you see the tigers vanishing from our country. 194 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,440 - The tiger? - The tiger. The population of the tigers were going down. 195 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Because there was nothing for them to eat. 196 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Nothing for them to eat. And hunting was banned across the country. 197 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,560 I can understand that. 198 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:58,880 It's only got five ingredients - 199 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:05,200 meat, water, ghee, salt and dried chillies. 200 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Then what we do is we take these chillies, 201 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,360 which come in from a place called Mathania. 202 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,080 While putting the chillies, we de-seed them 203 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,600 so they don't get extra spicy. 204 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:21,000 So we put the chillies, and now what we do is, there's water in there, 205 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,400 so we keep on adding water and ghee simultaneously, slowly. 206 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,440 It's really simple, but, I mean, I like it for that. 207 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,960 So what would you say was the essentials of Rajasthan cuisine? 208 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Where's it all come from? 209 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,560 The recipes were actually created by doctors in those days. 210 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:41,920 It had to have certain Ayurveda medicines 211 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,640 which were added to the food. 212 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,480 So the Ayurveda, excuse my pronunciation, 213 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,800 that really means that the chefs and doctors are working... 214 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Working together to make it perfect for your digestion, 215 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,960 for your eyesight, for everything, for the whole body is good. 216 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,480 And the chefs would make it into something...very tasty to eat, 217 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,840 because indulgence used to be huge in those days. 218 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,480 So they had to balance it out some way or the other. 219 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,440 So you virtually had to have a doctor as part of your team? 220 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,320 - Part of the kitchen team. - How interesting! 221 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,640 Now this is a real genuine lesson in less is definitely more. 222 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,040 It was splendid, and would be right up there in my top ten. 223 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,280 That's really good. 224 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Yeah, thank you. 225 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,080 I mean, the chilli makes it, of course. 226 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,240 To tell you the truth, what I like about it is it is so simple. 227 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,160 I mean, I've been tasting so much food, Indian dishes, 228 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,440 that actually just having the chilli and nothing else, 229 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,840 and tasting the mutton, is... 230 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,200 Oh, and a lassi, too. 231 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,160 At times they don't believe that there are not many ingredients, 232 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,120 spices go into it, and it would be that simple as... 233 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,920 No, I think that's really nice. 234 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,680 - Thanks a lot. - I'm enjoying it a great deal. 235 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,360 One of the other dishes I really liked at Sanjiv's restaurant was this - 236 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,640 curried lamb cutlets. 237 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,560 And I know that people watching will love them, too. 238 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,360 So back at my lovely bungalow on the lagoon, it was time to cook. 239 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,960 They were lamb cutlets, but first of all, the lamb was poached in milk. 240 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,240 So I'm just going to put a large amount of milk into this pan, 241 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,400 bring that to the boil, and I'm going to infuse the milk 242 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,920 with some whole spices. 243 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,880 First of all, just bruising a few cardamoms to put in there, 244 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,600 and then we've got these other whole spices as well. 245 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Fennel seeds, bruised cardamoms, black peppercorns, 246 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,040 cinnamon and Indian bay leaves, and some ground ginger. 247 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,680 So all that goes in like that. 248 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Give that a bit of a stir, and infuse the milk. 249 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Then I'm going to use that infused milk 250 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,680 as the liquid in the batter that's going to go on the lamb chops. 251 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,800 I'm not going to cook them for too long. 252 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,040 I want them to be a bit pink in the middle 253 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,280 because I'm then going to fry them. 254 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,560 They need to be in there so they absorb the flavours, 255 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,040 say around five minutes. 256 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,920 They're just about ready now, 257 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,840 so just lift 'em out with my trusty tongs. 258 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,520 You'll see they look a bit dishevelled. 259 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,520 Trust me, it almost adds to the look of the final dish. 260 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,520 So just let this infused milk cool down, 261 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,200 because I'm going to use it in the batter. 262 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,640 So, first of all we can start making up the batter. 263 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,400 I've got some flour in here and I'm going to add some cornflour 264 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,120 and whisk that together a little bit. 265 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,320 And then, virtually the same spices as went into the infusion - 266 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,880 peppercorns ground up, fennel seed ground up, 267 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,640 ground ginger and cardamom seeds ground up 268 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,320 and then I'm just going to put some salt in here. 269 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,080 Quite a lot actually, a sort of heaped teaspoon. 270 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,720 There we go, just those things all together. 271 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,840 And finally, and I do think this is the real best thing about this batter, 272 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,000 quite a lot of green chillies. 273 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,040 Three or four green chillies, seeds and all, into the batter. 274 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:42,120 Next I'm just going to whisk up a couple of duck-egg whites. 275 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,600 So... 276 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,480 get a little bit of... 277 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,200 ..a bit of foam happening with these egg whites. 278 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,720 Just make a little well in the middle of there, just add the egg whites. 279 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,360 And now to add the infused milk, 280 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:10,160 which should have cooled down enough by now. 281 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:16,600 A few tablespoons of this delicious infused milk. 282 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,200 I'm looking for the consistency 283 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,640 of single cream, double cream, something like that. 284 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,600 Perfick! 285 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,080 Now then, we'll just get some hot oil happening. 286 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:40,440 And now I'm going to dip my chops. So first of all...conveniently... 287 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:46,320 handle these chops in the batter, and then in the oil. 288 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,000 Probably get about four or five in at a time, cos they're only little. 289 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,600 OIL SIZZLES 290 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,040 So just leave those to brown, and then I'll turn them over. 291 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:07,520 Actually, Rajasthan is a very big meat-eating region of India, 292 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,600 a country largely made up of vegetarians. 293 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,600 So those are getting very nicely coloured now. 294 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960 I mean, that looks really lovely. 295 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,960 And, as I said, I like the knobbliness of them. 296 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,560 I'm enjoying this. 297 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,640 I mean, I do like cooking, you see? 298 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,200 People say, "You cook every day, you must get tired of it." I don't! 299 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,960 I think the real reason I don't is cos you're always hungry, 300 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,240 and I'm always hungry. 301 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,840 I'm always anticipating yet another lovely meal, 302 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,200 and I must say these chops are doing just that for me. 303 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,320 So there we go, those are now cooked. 304 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,360 So we will serve 'em up 305 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:51,880 and I just... When I dish them all up, 306 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,360 I'm just going to sprinkle a little chat masala over them, 307 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:59,000 which is basically a simple garam masala 308 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,400 with the important addition of some amchur, which is dried green mango, 309 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,120 and some black Indian sea salt. 310 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:08,360 Good. 311 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:09,680 Let us proceed. 312 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:14,600 Mm. 313 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 They're very nice, I must say. 314 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,680 A hint of chilli from those green chillies 315 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,560 and the lovely taste of fennel, which I love. 316 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Back taste of sort of general curry flavours, 317 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:31,080 but, you know, very convenient little bit of finger food. 318 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,680 It's crying out for a glass of beer, actually. 319 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,880 I stayed at some memorable places in Rajasthan, 320 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,280 breathtaking and so full of history. 321 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Take this place in Devgarh, a Rajput's palace and now a hotel. 322 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,200 It was perfect in every way... 323 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040 except I kept getting lost! 324 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,640 Well, as places to stay go, this is pretty exceptional. 325 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,720 I mean, this is only part of it. 326 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,720 The bedroom, the bathroom is twice as big as this is. 327 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,680 I think actually it's where the Rajput lived himself. 328 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,640 It must be, because it's so grand 329 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,640 and there's all these pictures of ancestors here, 330 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,160 all with their hands on a dagger or a sword. 331 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,360 I mean, just look at this, it is just fabulous. 332 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:37,840 I just love the way the light comes through all that coloured glass 333 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,280 and all the lovely mirrors and the silveriness of it. 334 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,600 And now I've started thinking, "I wonder what this room was used for?" 335 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,040 And, well, over there is the Rajput's harem, 336 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,200 so I was sort of slightly naughtily thinking, 337 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,800 "Maybe this is where he entertained his concubines." 338 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:05,280 I got up at five in the morning to see the local farmers pick cauliflowers. 339 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,320 This Northern European vegetable 340 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,920 seems so out of place amongst the palm trees, 341 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,880 like hummingbirds on Bodmin Moor. 342 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,560 And of course it was the British who introduced them, 343 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,280 along with the cabbage, 344 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,080 presumably to go with their roast beef and Yorkshire puddings. 345 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720 However, the good old cauli has acclimatised well 346 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,040 and is a key player in all the wonderful vegetable curries here. 347 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,200 TRADERS CALL 348 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,640 I must say, after so many days of being in busy Indian cities, 349 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,880 it's really nice coming to a market like this. 350 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,200 Very simple, not a lot of produce, 351 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,040 but everything straight out of the fields. 352 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,440 And I was talking to the guy that owns the hotel I'm staying in, 353 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,720 and he said that quite a lot of Europeans come here 354 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,200 to rural Rajasthan not to eat meat, 355 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,600 and I'm sort of quite in tune with them, 356 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,920 cos I've probably had enough mutton curries to shake quite a few sticks at. 357 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,160 But vegetarian food is what they've come for, 358 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,440 and things like cauliflower, aloo gobi, which is just potato and cauliflower 359 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,840 with a bit of masala and just a tiny bit of chilli, 360 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,920 is very good for the stomach. 361 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,400 I always find something in a market like this to interest me. 362 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,040 It's methi or fenugreek, 363 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,840 and I've never seen this as a vegetable or a herb, either/or. 364 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,720 I've just seen it as those little brown seeds you get back in the UK. 365 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,280 First time. 366 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:50,360 It's absolutely gloriously savoury. 367 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,760 It's sort of like, would be the centre of a vegetarian dish. 368 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,800 It's just got lots and lots of almost legume-like, you know, 369 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,480 peas and beans flavour. 370 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,200 No wonder they all adore it so much. 371 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,760 ENGINE SPLUTTERS 372 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Yeah! 373 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,480 I wanted to see how the locals made the famous aloo gobi - 374 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,520 potato and cauliflower curry. 375 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080 They start off by frying garlic and onion in ghee, 376 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,920 and cook it until it softens. 377 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,080 The masala, now that's made from salt, chillies, 378 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,840 turmeric, cumin, onion seeds and coriander. 379 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,800 I'm thinking back home, you go to your local Indian, 380 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,200 and you order, as ever, too much. 381 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960 You know, probably two or three curries between two of you 382 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,760 and you think, "I'd better have some veg." 383 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560 So you think, "Well, I'll have some rice 384 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,720 "and some poppadoms and some naan bread. 385 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,800 "Oh, and throw in an aloo gobi too," you know? 386 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,640 It's almost like an afterthought. 387 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,640 But here it's like a main course, and quite rightly so. 388 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,600 That's all I'd want for a main course. 389 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,880 I mean, I am becoming vegetarian! 390 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,120 Rajasthan isn't a rice-growing area, 391 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:17,080 so traditionally they accompany a curry with roti, 392 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,000 a flatbread made from either wheat or cornflour. 393 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,480 It's an unleavened flatbread, without yeast. 394 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,240 Now she puts in some tomatoes for a little touch of sourness. 395 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,640 I've just been thinking while she's been making that, 396 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,720 and having come from that market this morning, 397 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,400 I can tell you this dish, enough for at least three people, 398 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,440 would cost less than 10p. 399 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,800 I feel very close and personal to this dish, 400 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,960 because I was up about five o'clock this morning 401 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,040 watching them pick the cauliflowers that's gone into it, 402 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,640 and then I saw the rest of the ingredients in the market. 403 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,200 So this is aloo gobi with a cornflour roti. 404 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,280 It's absolutely wonderful! 405 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,720 It's very nicely seasoned, it's quite spicy, 406 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,920 but I'd be quite happy to eat this anywhere. 407 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,160 Incidentally, when I was in the market 408 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,560 I noticed the cauliflowers were fetching only three rupees each, 409 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,480 which is about three and a half pence. 410 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,160 Talking via an interpreter to the auctioneer there, 411 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,200 and he was saying to vegetarians cauliflower is like meat, 412 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,800 and to me it's like the sort of fillet steak of the vegetarian world. 413 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,400 Go anywhere in the Middle East and rose-water will be a distinct flavour, 414 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,480 as it is here in Rajasthan, 415 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,360 whose dishes still hark back to the days of the Mogul Empire. 416 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,560 I love rose-water. To me, it's a lovely, exotic backdrop 417 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,920 to many a biryani, pulao or Indian pudding. 418 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,560 This family in Pushkar have been making it for generations 419 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,800 in exactly the same way that the Arabs and Persians did 420 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520 over 2,000 years ago. 421 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Watching the women painstakingly pulling the petals away from the bud 422 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,440 made me feel I was on a film set for a commercial for Turkish Delight. 423 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,120 Sometimes when you're in India the smells aren't so good, 424 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:40,880 but it's more than offset by this. 425 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,400 So all the whole roses are going into this still to make the rose-water. 426 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,600 The petals they're going to make the jam from, 427 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,040 and the smell is overpowering. 428 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,920 But it's the simplest still I've ever seen, 429 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,120 and actually, if you wanted to make your own moonshine, 430 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,840 you could have one of those in your back garden. 431 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600 I was joking, constable! 432 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,640 And the way they extracted the essence from the damask rose petals 433 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,040 was indeed timeless. 434 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,600 They boil the petals in water in sealed copper pots. 435 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,240 The heavenly steam rises and escapes from the pot, 436 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,880 but the cold water from the pond turns it into pure essence. 437 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,720 A perfumed rain falling into the pot beneath the surface. 438 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,080 No doubt there'll be a modern, computerised, 439 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,800 stainless steel version of this somewhere in the world, 440 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600 but this'll do for me. 441 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440 I've been waiting for this all morning, 442 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,880 so charmed have I been by the smell of rose petals. 443 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,400 I was just thinking, actually, 444 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,240 I don't think I could ever get tired of that scent - it is just perfection. 445 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400 And this is the jam, so I'm just going to taste it. 446 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,320 It's just made with sugar and rose petals. 447 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,360 It's there, the scent of roses is right there. 448 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,880 I'm told it's really good with chapattis. 449 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,800 I'd like to take some home and have it with toast. 450 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,240 But this is what I came to see, and to take back to my kitchen by the lagoon, 451 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,440 because the subtle background hint of rose-water 452 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,840 is the key to India's most popular rice dish. 453 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Biryani. I think quite difficult to get right. 454 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,640 I think it's the hardest dish to make in Indian cookery, really. 455 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,280 But I think the most important thing about a biryani is keep it simple. 456 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,480 A lot of them have got far too many ingredients, far too many stages. 457 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360 This one is simple. 458 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,640 When you're frying onions like this, 459 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,520 even when they've got to the right stage, 460 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,120 they'll feel soft until you take them out and put them on a plate, 461 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,040 and then they'll crisp up. 462 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,360 I'm just going to marinate my chicken. 463 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680 First of all some ginger and garlic, 464 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,640 then a couple of chillies thinly sliced. 465 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,040 And finally some yoghurt, about 200 ml of yoghurt. 466 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,360 There we go. 467 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,560 And I'm just going to leave that for about half an hour. 468 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,240 It's a very important thing to do, because chicken can be a bit dry, 469 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,400 but with all this yoghurt in there it's going to be exceedingly moist. 470 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,960 And now to temper my spices. 471 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960 First of all a few cardamoms 472 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080 and then a nice piece of cinnamon 473 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440 and then some cloves. 474 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,280 And then a teaspoon of... popping a bit... 475 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,480 ..cumin. 476 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,320 And finally, a couple of Indian bay leaves. 477 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,360 Now then, I'm just going to add my ground spices now. 478 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,000 First of all, half to three-quarters of turmeric 479 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400 and then chilli powder 480 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,120 and finally some ground coriander and some salt. 481 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,760 Just stir that in. 482 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,720 Now immediately I'm going to add my marinated chicken. 483 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,520 And now I'm going to add just a tiny bit of water, 484 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,760 cos it is still slightly catching on the bottom. 485 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200 Looking lovely, I must say. 486 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,320 I think it's very important in a biryani 487 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,320 that the chicken should be absolutely encased in unctuous, 488 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,440 very flavourful masala. 489 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,040 Now some tomato. 490 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,960 I want this chicken to be cooked almost dry 491 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,000 so that the masala really clings to it. 492 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,320 But never pre-cook it, let it go cold. 493 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800 I cook the chicken and make the biryani. 494 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Now that's coming down very nicely. 495 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Do you see? It's almost as dry as something like a beef rendang. 496 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,920 By dry, I mean everything's clinging to the chicken. 497 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,880 So I'm just going to put that out of the way while I cook my rice. 498 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480 I cook the rice with cardamom, cloves and salt, 499 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,520 but I only cook it halfway through. 500 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800 It's important the rice is still hard in the centre, 501 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,400 because the next stage is cooking it again with the chicken, 502 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,600 and no-one likes mushy rice. 503 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,640 Right, so now to layer up my biryani. 504 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:44,120 First of all, a fair bit of ghee in the bottom of the pan. 505 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,720 That's to stop it sticking. 506 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,520 A little bit of water, too, 507 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,760 just to induce the steam right at the beginning. 508 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,280 First of all, a layer of rice. 509 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,520 So, here we go, nicely cooked. 510 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,960 Flick some saffron over the rice. 511 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,560 There we go. 512 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280 And now rose-water. 513 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,080 And on top of that, I'm going to put some of my chicken. 514 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,680 There we go, half the chicken. 515 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,520 Crisp fried onions on top of that. 516 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,560 Very exciting to me, this. 517 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,040 I love making a biryani. It's quite tricky, but very rewarding. 518 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,040 So it's layer after layer of rice, 519 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,320 saffron-infused milk 520 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400 and the splendid rose-water. 521 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,120 Fried onions, chicken, 522 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,320 and you keep repeating it till all the ingredients are used up. 523 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720 I'm putting a little bit of ghee right round the sides 524 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,640 so it doesn't stick, 525 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,080 so the rice doesn't stick to the side of the pan. 526 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,040 And now for the lid. 527 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,720 So now I wait for about 30 minutes, and serve it up. 528 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,000 I'm exceptionally keen on biryani, 529 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,120 and I can tell you that this dish, 500 years ago, 530 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,400 would have pride of place at many a banquet table. 531 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,040 Finally, I adorn the dish with more fried onions, 532 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600 toasted pistachios and cashew nuts. 533 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,280 I think that's fit for a Mogul emperor. 534 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,240 I met lots of tourists while making these films in India, 535 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:36,920 and nearly all of them had been here to the famous palace in Jaipur, 536 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,840 the capital of Rajasthan. 537 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,840 I think it must be the second most popular tourist attraction 538 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,400 after the Taj Mahal. 539 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,680 This is the Hawa Mahal, or the Palace of Winds. 540 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,600 It's actually not a palace at all. 541 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,160 It's actually quite a narrow building, more of a gallery. 542 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,600 It's where the Rajput's wives - many wives - 543 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,160 and many concubines used to go, 544 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,400 used to wear a veil 545 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,280 and go and look through the myriad of windows there, or lattices, 546 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,640 to the processions in the street below. 547 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,680 The Rajput's entourage could not be seen. 548 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,440 Part of being a Rajput was you were a meat-eater, 549 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,800 and meat-eaters were held to be strong 550 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,040 and you needed to be strong to be a hunter and a warrior. 551 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920 And somebody virile of course 552 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,760 would have a large number of wives and concubines. 553 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,960 Indeed, a harem, I suppose. 554 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,160 No matter where I am here, 555 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,760 I seem to spend quite a bit of time gazing out from forts or palaces 556 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,560 to a more mundane and prosaic world beyond. 557 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,760 Everywhere, you see glimpses of poverty, 558 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,600 not far away from a picture of utter opulence. 559 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,360 That's India for you. 560 00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,960 Take this village in rural Rajasthan. 561 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,760 It's called Kanota. 562 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,280 This might well be perfection in someone's eyes, 563 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,600 but to me it's like 1,000 villages here. 564 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,720 A dusty main street, concrete shop selling everything from saris, 565 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:16,240 motorcycle bits, cooking pots. 566 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,720 There's the usual sort of chaos about it. 567 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,920 HORNS BLARE 568 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,240 And yet drive through this gate, and you enter a totally different world. 569 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760 The world of the Rajput. 570 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520 A sort of English country squire meets military ruler. 571 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,640 This estate once belonged to a polo-playing Indian general 572 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,520 in the British Army, Amar Singh. 573 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,040 His passion was collecting recipes from the world over and he said, 574 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,640 "Well-cooked English food is just as much to my taste as the Indian. 575 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,000 "I might say that if there is Indian food, 576 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,280 "and one has to eat it with knives and forks, there is no fun. 577 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600 "In the same way, if there is English food, 578 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,200 "and one has to eat it without knives and forks, 579 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,720 "then it loses its enjoyment." 580 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,600 The estate is now run by his grandson, Thakur Man Singh, 581 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,320 a Rajput and a real foodie. 582 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,320 This is fabulous! 583 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,040 Just looking at these, I thought, 584 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,280 "They're railway lines, aren't they?" 585 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,040 It just says Darlington there. They must be British railway lines. 586 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,840 Thakur Man Singh. 587 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080 - Welcome, Rick. - Very, very nice to meet you. 588 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,320 How are you? 589 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,440 Much looking forward to you cooking us some of your... 590 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,440 Yeah, yeah. I'm cooking some special dish for you. 591 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Thank you very much. 592 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:49,880 - Rick, this is my family room. - Wow! 593 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,880 This is our old ancestors and all. 594 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,360 This is Amar Singh out here with his nephew. 595 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,480 - This is your grandfather? - Yeah. 596 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,760 So, he travelled all over the world in the British Army? 597 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,640 Wherever he went, he collected the recipes. 598 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,680 - Did he cook the recipes? - Did he like cooking, or he had his...? 599 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,280 His man used to cook, but he used to sit there and supervise. 600 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,720 - Did he? - Yeah. 601 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,520 He didn't cook himself. 602 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,960 Thakur Man Singh is going to cook keema dhai vada. 603 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,520 Keema means mince, and this is minced mutton, 604 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,160 just simmered and ground by Thakur Man Singh's faithful servant. 605 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,000 Not much change there, then! 606 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,600 - So, what's going in there first then? - Onion paste. 607 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,880 OK. Now we've got garlic. 608 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,160 - Salt? - Then the salt. 609 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,840 - Yeah. Chilli powder? - And then the red chillies. 610 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,160 - This is the favourite one for Indians. - Yes. 611 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,240 - I really like it. - I love red chilli. 612 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:52,920 We'll see that now, when this finishes. You might go red. 613 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,200 - What's that? - Ginger. Dry ginger. - Dry ginger. 614 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,560 - Coriander, is it? - No. Fennel. - OK, fennel. 615 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,240 Now, I'm sure that's garam masala. 616 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,400 Have you got the recipe? 617 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,520 Or is it a secret? It's lovely. 618 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,840 You have to smell it and find out. 619 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,240 Oh, gosh! 620 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,800 Cumin? 621 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,520 - Coriander. - Yes. 622 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,880 Cinnamon? 623 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,320 You're wrong somewhere. 624 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Oh, you're not going to tell me? 625 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,080 Maybe. 626 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640 - Maybe! - RICK LAUGHS 627 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,240 The secret garam masala. 628 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,520 Secret. Never get the recipe, I'm sure. 629 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,120 Well, that meat with those spices is fine as silk. 630 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,400 And now he adds coriander... 631 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,600 ..and we roll it into little balls the size of walnuts. 632 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,720 I haven't quite got the technique of getting the perfect... 633 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,040 You have to roll your hand like this. 634 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,760 Here. 635 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,560 And now they're ready to fry. 636 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,000 - So now this is the frying. - That's a really nice-looking karahi. 637 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,880 What are you going to use then? Ghee or...? 638 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680 I said ghee. She said oil. 639 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,520 OK. So which are you going to use? 640 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,520 There's still an argument going on. I said ghee, she says oil. 641 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,040 - Can I give you a bit of advice? - Yeah. 642 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,520 - Make it oil. - Make it oil? - They always win. 643 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,680 - More healthier. - Healthier in many ways. 644 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,800 Clear butter, doctor says no. 645 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,960 Thank you. 646 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,440 This dish came from his grandfather's recipe collection, 647 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,120 so it could go back hundreds of years. 648 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,560 He covers the kofta, the balls of spiced mince, with a creamy yoghurt... 649 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,240 ..and adorns that with a variety of ground spices. 650 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:44,280 Chilli, 651 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,560 cumin, 652 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,600 salt, some black pepper, 653 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,000 and strands of saffron. 654 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,800 Finally, splashes of rose-water. 655 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,560 It looks like something befitting the tables of the powerful Rajputs 656 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,400 in the days when their word was law. 657 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,280 Do you want to help yourself first? 658 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,880 Well, you do it because I'm not sure which goes where. 659 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,960 I appreciate you using a fork for us Westerners. 660 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,640 Mm. 661 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,760 It's lovely, I love the yoghurt. 662 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,680 So, this would be a typical lunch, or...? 663 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,960 Yeah. We prefer chapattis also in it, with lunch. 664 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,880 Sandhyo, what's it like being married to a Rajput? 665 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,720 I'm also a Rajput, and don't believe in inter-caste marriage. 666 00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:40,800 But what's it like being married to...? 667 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,440 He knows how to cook first of all, so I am free. 668 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,360 That's the only quality in me? 669 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,360 No, no, but first I said. 670 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,520 Oh, it's the first quality. And which is the second one? 671 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,360 I can just be a guest to him, eat away, and go. 672 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,720 Only? 673 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:01,520 So that helps me, cos I don't have to cook then. 674 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,960 That quality you found in me. 675 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,280 How does it feel in these modern times in India to be a Rajput? 676 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,920 What does it mean now? 677 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Now they're like a tamed tiger. 678 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,640 Really? 679 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,640 Because they don't have any powers any more. 680 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,960 They have no more powers, so they are like a tamed tiger in a circus. 681 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,520 I think you prefer talking than eating. 682 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,920 Well, I'll get on with it. Sorry! 683 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,680 It's very nice. 684 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,600 It was a lovely lunch, 685 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,080 and it reminded me of something I'd read about British Raj. 686 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,040 One thing that really put the British nose out of joint 687 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,720 was that the Indians do posh rather better than we do. So there! 688 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,960 And as luck would have it, 689 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,560 my next stop on my curry quest is the state of Himachal Pradesh. 690 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,880 The perfect antidote to all that cream, yoghurt and meat. 691 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,000 Lovely! 692 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,360 This is Kangra Fort, 693 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,680 a castle belonging to one of the oldest families in the world, 694 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,160 the Katoch family. 695 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,800 The name "Katoch" means "best in swordsmanship", 696 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,880 and apparently these people can trace their lineage right back 697 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,720 to the days of Alexander the Great. 698 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,800 This place reminds me of scenes from old movies 699 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,560 about derring-do in the North West Frontier, starring Errol Flynn, 700 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,680 and usually an English actor, blacked up, wearing a turban 701 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,960 and playing somebody deeply untrustworthy. 702 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520 The Katoches own pretty much all the land round here, 703 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,560 and today is an auspicious one 704 00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,320 because it heralds a visit by the family matriarch, Mrs Katoch. 705 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,360 Her son Ash - that's him in the patterned shirt - 706 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,880 is greeting guests arriving for a special feast 707 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,720 because his mother is seriously into Indian politics. 708 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,120 That must be Ash's mum. 709 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,360 This is the day for thanking all supporters and retainers 710 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,720 on the family estates, so it's a curry picnic for about 2,000. 711 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,320 The men cooking this feast are Brahmins, 712 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,040 the highest caste in India, 713 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,080 and they're strictly vegetarian. 714 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,560 They take their role here seriously. 715 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,680 All the spices, herbs and various condiments 716 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,040 are measured out on leaves - saves on washing up - 717 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,120 and tipped into these big copper cooking pots. 718 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,560 I have to content myself that I'm at the hub of where it's all at, 719 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,240 because to formulate a recipe is utterly impossible. 720 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:02,120 However, it's given me a really good idea 721 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:07,080 on how to go about cooking an authentic dish from Himachal Pradesh. 722 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,800 Right, well, I'm just going to run through five of the eight dishes. 723 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,400 First of all, here we have madras, and there's lots and lots of ghee in there, 724 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,280 and I notice lots of asafoetida, 725 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,160 and lots of that dried milk which really richens it up. 726 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,800 It's almost like milk powder in there called khoya. 727 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,080 Over here, chaps, before they move it off...it's khatta. 728 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,040 And now this is a black lentil dhal. 729 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,400 I'm particularly fond of this one, I've cooked it already for myself, 730 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,680 and it's flavoured with amchur, which is dried green mango, 731 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,920 which gives it a very, very tart taste. 732 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,400 Now I'm not going to tell you what those yellow things are at the top 733 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,680 cos they're over there, too. 734 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,440 Next here we have just a very simple yellow dhal. 735 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,800 I lost count of the different spices that had gone in there, 736 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,280 and it's finished with what I think is celery seed, 737 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,160 but Dave, the director, doesn't agree. 738 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,440 But I know I'm right because I've tasted it before in Bloody Marys. 739 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,040 Over here, this is a chickpea curry, 740 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,440 and this is finished with those little yellow things, 741 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,680 which are actually puffed chickpeas, so like puffed wheat. 742 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520 And over here, it's sweet rice, 743 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,320 sweetened with sugar with lots of coconut and raisins in it. 744 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,720 A real banquet dish. 745 00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:35,320 And the thing about all this food, there's no garlic and onion in it. 746 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:41,280 The gods don't like garlic and onion because it heats the blood, 747 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,320 and it encourages intemperance, lust, 748 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,240 wantonness, that sort of thing. 749 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,360 This is the first sitting, 750 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,960 and there'll probably be about ten more of them 751 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,720 before the afternoon is over. 752 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:01,440 It's very easy and comfortable 753 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,600 for those used to sitting cross-legged for hours at a time, 754 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,800 but I haven't done this since I was at the village school about 60 years ago. 755 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,800 - Do you want a green chilli? - Yes, please, I love chillies. 756 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,880 - Oh, you want a green chilli? - Yeah, I like them. 757 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,600 It's very nice food. 758 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,840 Take it in your three fingers, and with your thumb just push it in your mouth. 759 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:26,880 OK. 760 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,080 Now if you can try that, three fingers and then... 761 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,640 Flick it into your mouth. 762 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,000 It's not flicking, it's just... pushing it in. 763 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Got it. 764 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,000 But in Himachal when you sit like this, 765 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,480 there is no difference between the rich, the poor, the caste or anything. 766 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,760 Everybody's equal. 767 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,720 And the food is only served by Brahmins. 768 00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:52,840 It is cooked by the Brahmins and only served by the Brahmins, 769 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,000 so there's a sense of equality here. 770 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,120 Well, there's something very convivial about it, 771 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,440 and would they feel nervous with you around, or are they...? 772 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,760 Well, with my mother around, yes, definitely they'd be nervous, but... 773 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,040 But not you? 774 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,840 Well, not with me, no. 775 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,320 Most of them have seen me grow as a little kid from here, so... 776 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,600 And half of our boys are the ones I used to play cricket with. 777 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,480 You were saying you think you might be the oldest family in the world? 778 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,560 Well, the historical records date us back to Alexander's war records. 779 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:30,600 A war hero known as King Porus, from him we descend. 780 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,840 We fought every invader who came into the country, 781 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,880 from the Moguls to the British, 782 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,880 and you are being welcomed here, so... 783 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,240 People always want to know whether the caste system is continuing. 784 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,880 Is it dying out? 785 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,880 In many states it's very, very prevalent, especially in Haryana. 786 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,600 Inter-caste marriages are not accepted in the villages. 787 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,720 Oh. 788 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,960 There's certainly a lot of problems for young people who fall in love. 789 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:09,160 But the bigger cities like Delhi, Calcutta, Bombay, 790 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,120 Lucknow and all these areas, bigger cities, 791 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,320 it has become...it's dying out. 792 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,120 Cor, I found that a bit hard getting up. 793 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,360 I'm not used to sitting cross-legged for so long. 794 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,640 I must say it was, in a way, quite moving 795 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,480 because there is a great sort of levelling sense 796 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,600 when people sit down to eat together. 797 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,080 And I think Ash is right - it's a tradition that he should maintain 798 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:39,680 because you're all as one in a situation like this, eating together. 799 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,640 Ooh! Bloody hell! 800 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,520 One of the meals cooked that afternoon was a lovely dish, 801 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,400 rather like a chunky bean curry. 802 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,120 And it's one of the most popular vegetarian dishes 803 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,320 in the whole of India. 804 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,960 And once the beans have cooked, it takes no time at all. 805 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,000 Oh, they seem to be about ready. 806 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,160 I'm about to finish cooking a rajma, 807 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,120 which is a red kidney bean curry 808 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,400 from Himachal Pradesh right up in northern India. 809 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,440 I've been cooking these beans just with a bit of turmeric 810 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,280 for about an hour and a half. They really do take... 811 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,240 I soaked them overnight and I've been cooking them, 812 00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:22,720 and they're still... 813 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:25,440 Well, they're soft now, but it's certainly taken a long time. 814 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,920 Actually, when we came over 815 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,200 right at the beginning of filming some months ago, 816 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,320 on the plane they served rajma 817 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,800 and I was thinking at the time it's a bit like comfort food, 818 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,400 like cassoulet without the meat. 819 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,280 So to those frying onions I put in a garlic and ginger paste, 820 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,520 very common here. 821 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,240 It's very easy to make back home in a food processor. 822 00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,640 Then chilli powder. 823 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,600 Now, you can tell that's just freshly ground because it's all fluffy. 824 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,920 And now, to reinforce those curry flavours, garam masala. 825 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,360 Now I'm going to add quite a lot of yoghurt, 826 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,040 because yoghurt is incredibly important in northern India 827 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,920 cos they're a lot sharper in India. 828 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,800 But if you use an ordinary yoghurt - not a low-fat one, my gosh no - 829 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,320 because there's certainly plenty of fat in Indian yoghurt. 830 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,840 But you'll get approximately the same thing, not quite so sour. 831 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,080 And now I'm going to add my beans. 832 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,640 There we go. 833 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,600 To help thicken it, crush a few of the beans 834 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,000 against the side of the saucepan with the back of a spoon, and that's it. 835 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,400 The last thing is to squeeze a bit of lime over the top, and there we go. 836 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,840 Just serve that with some fluffy basmati rice. 837 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,040 Brilliant! 838 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,360 This is the town of McLeod Ganj in the foothills of the Himalayas. 839 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,920 The Indians refer to this area as the abode of the gods, 840 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,600 and actually, this is where, talking of gods, the Dalai Lama lives. 841 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,760 Consequently there are many of his followers living here, 842 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,840 and so, naturally, the restaurants serve many varieties of Tibetan food. 843 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,440 I'd never heard of these before I came here, but I've been told 844 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,120 that their popularity is spreading all over India. 845 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520 They're little steamed dumplings called momos. 846 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,120 Gosh, these are good! They really are good. 847 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,560 What I love about 'em is they're steamed, so they're very moist. 848 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,280 You've got lots of nice-tasting minced lamb in there, 849 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,000 and lots of onion, only slightly cooked, so almost a bit sharp. 850 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,200 They are so lovely. No wonder... 851 00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,240 I mean, this is such a relief to me after so many curries, 852 00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:03,880 just to come and have some Tibetan food which is so different. 853 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,760 But as I was saying, no wonder they're catching on through the whole of India 854 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,640 because they are truly, truly lovely. 855 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,440 I wanted to come here to meet the Dalai Lama. 856 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,120 I know it sounds a bit lame or stupid, 857 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,080 but I wanted to talk to him about food, what it means to him. 858 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,960 It's as simple as that. 859 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,440 I sensed his aides were a trifle bemused at my request. 860 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,760 "Food? Just food?" they'd say. 861 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,680 "Yes, I'd really like to know His Holiness's thoughts about food." 862 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,480 Hello. 863 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,240 - Hello. - Rick Stein to meet you. - Your Holiness. 864 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,080 Very nice to meet you, Your Holiness. 865 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,840 I must say, I'm a bit nervous. 866 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,120 No, no, no, no, don't be nervous. 867 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,360 This is David Pritchard, the director. 868 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,760 Great honour to meet you, Your Holiness. 869 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,440 Ready? Ready? 870 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,520 - DAVID: Yes, Your Holiness. - Going? - Yes. 871 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:11,280 Just... Obviously as a monk, that food doesn't feature now in your life, 872 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,440 but when you were young, when you were little, did it matter to you, food? 873 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:22,000 Traditionally, as a young sort of student, including monk student, 874 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,080 it's not eating eggs, porks and fish. 875 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,920 Then my own parent, my father, 876 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,480 very much fond of pork. 877 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:44,680 So occasionally, when I visit my own family's house... 878 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,880 ..then my father used to enjoy porks, 879 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,600 and then I'd just sit beside him like dog, 880 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,920 waiting some piece from that. 881 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,880 So that, anyway, quite illegal, 882 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,600 young Dalai Lama should not allow you to eat pork. 883 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,040 But then also, egg. 884 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:16,240 My mother quietly cooked egg 885 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,040 and then give me. 886 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:24,400 So one day I enjoy porks and eggs, 887 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:31,080 which supposed to say not allow the Dalai Lama. 888 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,840 Then one official, monk official, used to come while I enjoyed these things, 889 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,760 so then I burst, "Go away! Go away!" 890 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:50,080 So that shows, as a young boy very much fond these food, 891 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,080 which not allowed in my official kitchen like that, just one thing. 892 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,040 - Good stuff! - One thing. 893 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,680 Then... 894 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:05,520 Then, of course, see, I am Buddhist fully ordained monk, 895 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,600 - so afternoon, no dinner. - Right. 896 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,760 Only breakfast...and lunch. 897 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,400 After that, it's no solid meal, 898 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,800 but occasionally when I feel very hungry, 899 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,080 then we'd salute to Buddha, just a few biscuits. 900 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,440 That's the way that I feel, a Buddha will understand. 901 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:38,000 My healthy body is more important than just to see... 902 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,600 one small rule. 903 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,800 So really you have to teach yourself to think of other people, 904 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,520 to be compassionate to other people, 905 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:55,520 and sharing of food to me is part of that compassion, really. 906 00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:01,320 As a chef, I think actually the most pleasure I get from it 907 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,320 is cooking for other people and making them... 908 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,920 and seeing the happiness in their faces. 909 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:12,200 I think we should promote awareness, 910 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,640 oneness of humanity. 911 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,720 Once that sort of concept has become strong, 912 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,480 then a lot of world problem can reduce. 913 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,320 Now we too much stress, different religious faith, 914 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:33,000 different nationality, different nations' own sort of interest, 915 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,840 don't care about others, 916 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,480 so therefore I think your programme about food, 917 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:44,800 I think through that way you can teach people, basically we are same. 918 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:48,040 King, queen, also loves food. 919 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:54,160 Beggar, AIDS patients, these also, you see, loves food. 920 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,480 On that level we are same. 921 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,080 You're so right. I mean, that's what it's all about to me, really, 922 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:07,440 and I'd just like to thank you so much for being so open with me. 923 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,360 Because, as I said, I was really nervous before, 924 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,480 and now I'm overwhelmed. 925 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,240 OK, thank you. Thank you. Thank you much. 926 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,480 - OK now? - DAVID: Bravo. 927 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,280 You satisfied? Our boss, satisfied now? 928 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,720 DAVID: I'm very satisfied. 929 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,760 Oh, that's good, that's good, that's good! 930 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,520 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 79153

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