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There's something about a curry that's all pervading.
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Just the thought of it ignites a longing deep inside us.
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It is the only food I can think of where the sense of smell works
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so wonderfully well with memory and imagination.
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At the mere mention of the word, I sense turmeric,
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coriander, garlic and cumin.
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No other food I know gives the taste buds such a roller-coaster ride.
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For nearly three months,
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I travelled all over India, tasting curries
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and watching cooks, trying to find out their secrets,
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because curry is full of complexities
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and it's taken very seriously here and I wanted to show that there's
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more to curry than three pints of lager and a prawn vindaloo.
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First-class curry, Ricky.
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That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky.
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Well, I was sitting on the plane this morning reading my notes
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coming into Bombay, Mumbai,
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and I was really interested to see that 500 years ago there was
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nothing here but a series of fishing communities on a string of islands.
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The Portuguese came along and they saw what a fabulous harbour
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this was, so they built a series of forts to protect it
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from other greedy European nations.
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Well, in time, the British took over
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and they reclaimed a lot of land from the sea
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and they built a railway down the coast and Bombay flourished
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and it became the most successful
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and opulent city in the subcontinent - the Gateway to India.
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I'm pretty glad I'm not a historian, actually,
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doing this programme,
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because I could be a bit flippant about the Gateway to India
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because I can't help feeling it sort of looks like something
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on a tin of curry powder, you know, because it's so imposing.
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Of course, it was supposed to be imposing
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because it was a bit like the British Raj's front door -
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you sort of arrived here perhaps off a P&O steamer
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and quite ironically and quite sort of romantically, I think,
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it was the gateway where the last British troops marched
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through ceremonially just after independence in 1947.
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It was built to commemorate the landing of King George V
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and Queen Mary when they arrived here in 1911
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and it became the proscenium arch where the great and the good,
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bedecked in their ostrich feathers
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and gold braid, entered the rich, colourful stage which is India.
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And talking of rich, colourful stages,
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it doesn't get much better than this.
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It almost has a biblical feel to it, Sassoon Docks -
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the main fish market in Bombay.
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Well, I must say, I'm always at my happiest in a fish market,
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my most exuberant.
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My wife Sarah says I am a fish cos I love my fish so much.
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I don't know why it is, but fish and boats and open air scenes like this
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at dawn are what really, really makes me excited.
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I mean, look at it! I think in a sense we're all
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excited by sights like this because it sort of takes us
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back to a time when things were simpler,
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when people got on with each other much more closely.
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I mean, the great thing I always find in scenes like this in India
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is that you never feel people have got it in for you
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cos they're too busy doing their own thing, doing their own work.
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I think in the West somehow because everything's tidy and clean,
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we've just lost that sense of kinship.
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PEOPLE CHATTER
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Well, I've been able to talk to a few people
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about what the fish sells for here
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and some of the really big fish like tuna, sailfish, swordfish...
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I've just seen some fish sold for 38,000 for export, but also there's
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lots of little fish which people make a small living out of.
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I was talking to the driver that brought us here.
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He said his dad used to come here with a bucket
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and just buy lots of little fish and take them
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out to the neighbourhood around here and he'd make about 300 rupees,
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which is nothing but was enough to keep his family in food.
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Also, what I've noticed... and I hate waste, OK?
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Being a chef, I hate waste - there is no waste here.
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Nothing gets thrown away.
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Even the little fish that fall out of boxes, all the stuff that's
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thrown onto the quay cos it is too small to sell, is picked
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up by children and taken and sold.
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Fantastic.
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I've finally found it.
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This is one of the most important fish in the whole series.
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Doesn't look much but it's called bombil and it's what we used to know
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in the UK as Bombay duck, but can I find it any more? No way.
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Apparently, it's salted and dried, but it's not hygienic,
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they tell me in the EEC, but I suspect it's because it smells
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and people don't like the smell, but this IS my childhood.
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We always used to have Bombay duck sprinkled on curries.
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I'm determined to find it.
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The fishing boats here are all the same design, a stocky triangle
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of thick teak with a broad stern - clearly a design to be trusted.
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I found it a little disconcerting to see the swastika
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emblazoned on the side of wheelhouses.
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It's strange how over here, it means a sign of good fortune,
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whereas in Europe, it became the most sinister
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symbol in the whole of the Western world.
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Well, as the Australians would say,
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I'm like a kid in a lolly shop here, but it's not just really
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about the fish here, it's about the curries that's really exciting me.
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Because being the most populous city in the whole of India, Bombay
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has fish curries from everywhere - Mangalore, Maharashtra,
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Madras, Kerala, Goa - you name it,
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and I can't wait to get out there and try them all.
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So, the overall effect is that this place inspires you to cook.
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My little house at the edge of the lagoon is a perfect place
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to cook a curry resonant of that vibrant fish market.
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So I'm just slicing up my squid here and just cutting it into rings.
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It's been prepared apart from that with my trusty Indian blue knife
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which cost me 40 rupees. Not a lot of money.
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Now I'm going to make a masala.
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Into my masala grinder I'm going to put some coriander seeds,
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cumin seeds, some black mustard seeds and then some garlic
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and red chilli and some turmeric and finally some fenugreek.
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Turn it on, whiz it up.
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And there we go, only takes seconds.
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Now I'm just going to turn that out into...on top of my coconut,
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just to remind me to put both into my trusty karahi or chatti,
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with quite a good quantity
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of just ordinary vegetable oil in there.
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I'm going to fry off some sliced onions.
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Just stir those around a little.
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Then I've got some garlic and chilli...
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green chilli and sliced ginger.
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There we go.
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Just stir that around to cook it and next,
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while it's still very hot, I add my squid.
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OK, there we go, in goes my masala now
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and the ground, grated coconut.
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I just think it could do with a little bit more colour
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and probably thinking about the amount of chilli in there,
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a bit more oomph, so I'm just going to add some chilli powder,
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about a British teaspoonful, I should think.
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And now add some tomato... There we go. ..just chopped up.
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In this hot country, tomatoes all taste deliciously sweet
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so that's looking good.
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Just going to add a little bit of water
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because I want a bit of sauce happening here.
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I always keep a water bottle near me whenever I'm cooking Indian dishes.
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You never know when you might need it.
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Quite often just if the spices are burning a bit or you
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the want a little bit more liquid for a sauce.
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Now I'm going to add a very important
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ingredient in Mangalorean cooking - tamarind.
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Lovely, sour note, but sometimes I find them a little bit too sour,
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so I'm a bit apt to put a little bit of sugar in there as well.
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I'm using jaggery, which is cane sugar. It's very, very unrefined.
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Tastes wonderful. It tastes like fudge.
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I'm just going to add now a little bit of coriander.
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You know, I love curries like this,
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because it's not all about long, thoughtful cooking, Indian curries -
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sometimes you can do it in minutes like this one
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and very good it is too.
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I had this in a little restaurant...
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Well, it wasn't really a restaurant, it was just a gap in the wall where
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they served really good fish dishes. This took barely 10 minutes to make.
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It's cheap, no-fuss cooking and I love it.
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On my trail for the elusive Bombay duck,
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it looks like I've missed the boat, because all that's left
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on these drying racks is a fish called a snakefish,
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inferior to the famous bombil that I saw earlier in the market.
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But I was invited to go to a fisherman's house in Versova
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and offered a taste of the famous, much-loved Bombay duck, an offer
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I couldn't turn down because I hadn't tasted it since my early 20s.
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I think it's fair to point out that the reason it's hard to get
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in Bombay, this dried, salted Bombay duck, is that restaurant owners
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can't stand it cos of the smell in their restaurants.
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You can appreciate that.
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I mean, back in Padstow, I think I'd be a little bit
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worried about sending hot Bombay duck out like this.
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It is a bit strong, but what I like is fried,
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let go cold and then crumbled over a curry.
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Well, I've just been watching and they're going to bring it now.
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I have to say it's a vegetarian day for them,
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so they're not going to try it.
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They've just done especially for me
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and also they normally do it with a masala,
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but I just wanted to try it plain, just like a snack, because it's
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more like what I remember having sprinkled over my curry.
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It's very good. I mean, I don't know why people get
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so nervous about things that are a bit smelly.
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This is wonderfully salty and savoury,
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be great with a glass of beer.
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Lovely. Thank you very much.
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RICK LAUGHS
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I think we all know in the West that Bombay or Mumbai is
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really on the move.
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There's serious money here and there are
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so many Indians who, having left their mother country to find fortune
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elsewhere, are coming back because the economy here is so buoyant.
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I think that this place has always, since the days of the Arabs
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and the Portuguese, been very cosmopolitan.
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- So this is Britannia?
- This is Britannia.
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'I met a food blogger, Purva Mehra, who took me
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'to a well-established restaurant. It's a Parsi restaurant.
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'Now, the Parsis escaped Muslim persecution in Iran
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'nearly 1,000 years ago and came to the western coast of India.
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'The British loved them because they spoke English and I think the Parsis
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'really liked the British
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'because this restaurant is called Britannia.'
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I notice you've got a picture of the Queen up there on the wall.
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- You want a picture?
- No, no, no.
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- Do you remember the days of the British Raj?
- Yes, I remember.
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How was it?
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I was, at that time, a young man, about 25 years old
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when the British left.
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If you're going back
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to London,
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please give all my love to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth.
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Well, I've met her a couple of times.
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Please tell her we want her back and we will all be very happy again.
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- Thank you very much.
- I'll do my best.
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- Thank you. We're going to have...
- Can we have the...?
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- We're going to have the berry pulao.
- The berry pulao?
- Yes, please.
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You want to have with chicken or with mutton?
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- We'd like... Chicken is good for you?
- Yes, fine.
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- The chicken berry pulao, please.
- One chicken berry pulao.
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- One chicken berry pulao. Thank you very much.
- OK, thank you very much.
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'So Purva ordered berry pulao, one of the most popular dishes here
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'and it's made with rice and barberries.
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'They are deliciously sour and gleam like rubies and they come from Iran.
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'The whole dish is made with chicken and fried onions,
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'lots of fried onions.'
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Purva, I can't actually tell what's in here
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- and they won't give us a recipe.
- They won't.
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It's a family recipe. It's actually developed by Mr Kohinoor's wife.
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No chilli, is there?
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No...maybe just a hint of it
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but the whole idea is the fragrance because a pulao has
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to be aromatic, otherwise it fails as a pulao.
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In Australia, I got hold of dried sour fruit,
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mostly cherries, from Iran, I think it's a speciality.
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- It is a speciality.
- So who are the Parsis, then?
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They actually fled the Muslim invasion.
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They did not want to be a conquered people,
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so they came and they settled in Gujarat.
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They brought with them
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dishes like chicken dhansak or dhansak in general.
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So that's where dhansak came from?
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Dhansak came from the Parsis and they were excellent tradesmen.
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- They still run the top businesses in the country.
- Well, I mean, I love it.
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It's a little bit sort of moth-eaten
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but presumably they're keeping it the way it always was.
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Yes, Britannia, for instance, was set up in 1923
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and Mr Boman Kohinoor who owns the place is now 91.
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- That's who we've just been talking to?
- Yes.
- Fabulous.
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- Yes, he's managed the place for 75 years now.
- Good Lord.
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- The Queen might watch this.
- He is, he is a loyalist...
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- to his last days.
- Well, let's tuck in.
- Thank you.
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I have a strong feeling that Indians, not all,
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but certainly the ones I've met, regard the British with affection.
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Of course, nobody knows who I am over here and nor should they,
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but when I say I'm from the UK, their faces light up.
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It's as simple as that and this is just one of the legacies
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we left behind.
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This has become as much part of the country as Royal Enfield motorbikes
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and Austin Cambridge cars - so British and yet so Indian.
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I was just wondering how many games of cricket
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there are going on here, about 100, I'd imagine,
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and just looking round, I don't really want to get
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clocked by a ball but it's only a tennis ball, but I was just
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thinking if we were back in the UK, how many games would be allowed?
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Well, maybe two per field, so you'd probably get four games here.
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If you wanted five, you'd have to come back on Thursday.
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No wonder the Indians are so good at cricket.
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I need something a bit faster than that.
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I never was any good at it.
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Kipling, in his poem to Bombay, talks of the people here who traffic
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up and down but cling to the city's hem
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as a child to their mother's gown.
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Maybe people have always come here to the water's edge to get
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away from the dynamo of the city.
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And this is where lovers go to hold hands but never kiss.
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It's not allowed.
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I'm told by my guide Krishna that most young couples have nowhere
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to go in this very expensive, overpopulated city,
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except here to gaze out over the sea,
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away from the noise of clogged streets
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and their parents' tiny apartment.
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Here, they can talk about their dreams until the sun goes down
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and beyond, but they can't kiss - it's not allowed.
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Whilst on the subject of the love,
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this is what the people who come from here absolutely adore.
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It's called pav bhaji.
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It is, I'm told by Purva, my foodie guide,
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the quintessential Bombay dish.
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It's made with loads of butter, chopped onions -
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and the onions are always red in India,
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unless anyone knows better -
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then cumin seeds, mashed potatoes,
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loads of freshly chopped tomatoes and marrowfat peas.
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To me, the indulgence of eating a cracking pav bhaji
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is similar to a great hamburger.
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It's all about the combination, in this case, the vegetables,
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the freshly baked bread and loads of butter.
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Next, pav bhaji masala mix - chilli and coriander powder,
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salt and lots of chopped coriander.
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It smells lovely.
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It's a funny thing to say,
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but it's sort of like a very exotic bubble and squeak.
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The masala is the most crucial part,
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and as you can see, it's burning our eyes.
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So you can imagine how potent it is.
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But that's where all the flavour is.
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It seems to have an awful lot of butter in at the beginning.
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- A lot of butter.
- A lot of butter.
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I mean, there was like a pound, in old measurement, to start with!
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Precisely. Butter is indispensable to the dish. It's what lends it...
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It's greasy, that sort of fat taste, unapologetic.
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If you don't have butter, you can't have pav bhaji.
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You can't call it pav bhaji without the butter.
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Well, I can't wait to try it.
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It's dishes like this that are the most memorable.
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Well, if you come to Bombay and you don't eat pav bhaji,
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- you've missed out.
- Well, I haven't eaten it yet.
- You're about to.
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I'm glad you're doing this
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because this is quintessential Bombay street food.
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So what do we do now?
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- All right, you have to get your hands dirty, Rick.
- Fine.
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You break the bread and you scoop up the butter.
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Break a piece, or you can ladle it on there.
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- That's fine.
- What would you do? You do it.
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- I'll show you how it's done.
- This is so exciting.
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- We break a piece...
- Oh, I see.
- And we just scoop it up, butter and all.
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And voila!
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- Wow!
- What do you think?
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This is...superb!
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I mean, this is the sort of, like... Who cares about the diet?
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- I'm going to have some fun!
- Precisely!
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- Unbelievably lovely!
- You can taste the butter, can't you?
- Mmm!
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It's all butter.
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I got this dish, which is chicken with apricots, from Bombay,
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Mumbai, whichever you prefer.
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I went to the same restaurant twice, because it was that good,
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and this is one of the dishes I had.
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I asked the manager there where it came from and he said he thought
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it was from Gujarat, but that originally it was a Parsi dish.
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But, like so much in Bombay, there's 20 million-plus population there
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and most of them come from other parts of India.
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So, for me, it's a Bombay dish.
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So first I'm going to put into my hot chatti or karahi, some oil.
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And now I'm going to temper some spices.
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And I really enjoy doing this now.
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It's something I've learnt in India.
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You put whole spices in hot oil
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and it just infuses the hot oil with the flavour of those spices.
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First of all, some peppercorns and now some cloves,
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some bruised cardamom, so that means the seeds are popping out.
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A couple of chillies...
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I should have taken the stalk off that one. It doesn't matter.
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And now just break up a bit of cinnamon.
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Stir those around for about 30 seconds. Lovely smell!
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Now I'm just going to add some onions. Not a lot.
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And just brown those.
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So, there we go.
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Time now for some roughly chopped garlic and ginger.
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Just let that brown a little bit.
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I love the smell of garlic and ginger.
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Right, that's browning quite nicely,
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so now I'm going to add some tomatoes.
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And the recipe says to cook it down until it's syrupy, so I'll
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just let those tomatoes come down nicely,
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just giving off all their moisture.
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And now I'm going to add some salt.
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Excuse me if I add a bit more than you think is healthy.
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A teaspoon and a half. A generous teaspoon and a half.
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And now to add my dry spices.
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First of all some turmeric, probably only half a teaspoon.
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And next, some chilli...
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Probably I'm getting a bit keen on my chilli.
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I think I'd have written this recipe was just one teaspoon before,
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but now I've made it two.
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Now some ground coriander, a teaspoon.
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And some ground cumin, a teaspoon.
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And some garam masala. Let's say a teaspoon and a half.
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I love my garam masala. Let's stir that around.
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It's getting quite hot now.
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I don't want those powdered spices to burn at all,
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so I'm just going to add a little bit of water, just to take...
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HE COUGHS
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Sorry! Too much chilli!
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There we go. That's very nice. And now I'm going to add the chicken.
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Cook that a little bit, not brown it,
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but just take the pink colour off it.
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Now I'm putting jaggery in, which is very, very raw cane sugar.
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Very nice. I just love eating it on its own. So in goes that.
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But here are the dried apricots, lots of them.
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And that gives the dish a lovely sweetness,
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contrasted with the next ingredient, which is vinegar.
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Now, this is toddy vinegar, which is
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actually made from the sap of the coconut flower.
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You can use white wine vinegar, of course.
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A couple of tablespoons of that.
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So it's that sort of sweet and sourness
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this is the real beguilingness of this dish.
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And finally, we need to add, at this stage in the cooking,
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some water, just to barely cover that.
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Just stir that in. And that is now going to cook for about 30 minutes.
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First covered, to really cook the chicken, and then, for
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the last 5-10 minutes, I'll uncover it to reduce it a little bit.
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I can't find my bleeding lid! Oh, there it is, where I left it.
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See you later.
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While that's bubbling away, I talked about chilli powder earlier,
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so you've got to see this.
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This, to me, sums up everything that's so ingenious about the Indians.
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I call this the spice pistons. It sounds like a band!
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If you get your spice ground in a large factory,
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they are doing hundreds and hundreds of kilos at a time.
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They grind it really fast and it gets hot and it starts to burn
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and that actually burns off part of the flavour.
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The real joy of this machine is it stays cool
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and you get all the fragrance of the chilli.
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Thank you very much!
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Well, that's what two kilos of whole chillies looks like as powder.
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Smells... Smells absolutely fruity and fragrant.
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And it tastes... I mean, don't use spice powder.
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Try and grind your own. Even if you're using a coffee grinder,
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you'll get something like this taste. There is so much more to it.
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I would actually say that one of the main things
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I'm learning in India is go for fresh spices all the time.
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It's just transforms every curry you're ever going to make.
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So, after 30 minutes or so, that's perfect.
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The right consistency - rich and velvety.
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And notice I'm leaving the whole spices in.
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That's what they do here, as well as leave the chicken on the bone.
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More flavour, they say.
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That looks so nice. Lovely colour, this one.
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I'm just going to sprinkle on this some coriander.
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But now these chips, which is quite unusual in India, but it's so nice.
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Just put them on the top like that, and when you eat your curry
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and you got these crisp, crunchy matchstick potatoes - fab!
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So, we're going to your favourite restaurant?
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This is my new friend, Krishna,
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who is also our translator and guide.
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- Yeah, like this. Like that.
- OK, right.
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And he assures me
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that feeding the cow will bring me an abundance of good luck.
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Ah, got the tongue. That's good luck!
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We're going to his favourite restaurant in the whole of Bombay.
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I don't think it's even got a name,
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but the food is supposed to be really good.
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- Are you feeling nice, Rick?
- Feeling wonderful!
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Well, this is just a little bit frustrating.
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No disrespect to Krishna, because we asked him where his favourite
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restaurant was in all of Bombay, and he's chosen this tiny restaurant.
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So small, that only the cameraman can get in.
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Basically, I've asked for fish masala
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and, as far as I can work out, they've taken a whole lot of spices,
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whole chilli, coriander, cumin, coconut, and dry-fried them,
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then ground them, then put that in a pan with water
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and then they've added wet ingredients - ginger, garlic,
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tamarind, tomatoes and lots of green chillies,
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and boiled that together, and now they are ready to put
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the fish in, which I think is going to be shark.
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He says it's just the best, and I don't doubt it.
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But I'm slightly irritated with David, the director,
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because he likes making things difficult for me.
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I feel a bit like Keith Floyd in a way.
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Remember those programmes where he used to complain about
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the director making him go up in balloons and all this sort of thing? Same guy.
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The portions are not what I'd call gargantuan.
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It's mostly rice flavoured with this spicy, hot tamarind sauce
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and just the merest amount of fish. Well, that's how it is here.
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- What do you think about it? You got...
- Tamarind seed!
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Tamarind seed, yeah.
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It's lovely!
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I mean, it's incredibly economical, for a start,
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because you've got not a lot of fish, but you don't need it.
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Lots of rice, and the masala is exquisite, it tastes really fresh.
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I'm sorry I'm so bad at eating with my fingers,
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but it's just devilish difficult to get used to.
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- I know, you have to learn.
- Could you pass me a napkin?
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I just want to have some of that rice.
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Special napkin, designed for the canteen.
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- You finished?
- No, no, no. My hands get so dirty.
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I just want to try some of this, which is rice water?
475
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Rice water, yeah. They don't give you water, they give you rice water.
476
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,680
- It's very nice.
- You have all the energy of the rice here.
477
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,680
You don't miss it. Like, another four, five hours, you know?
478
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,880
I always feel it when you burp, you know?
479
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,280
That rice flavour comes out and it is so nice. I really enjoy this.
480
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,560
This is how my mum cooks at home.
481
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,160
So if somebody asks me, "Which is your favourite food?"
482
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,840
I say, "The fish curry which my mum cooks."
483
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,880
So, for me, this is kind of my home.
484
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,000
I think that's really what eating out is all about.
485
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,080
I suddenly realised this is why I've never really run
486
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,440
a Michelin-starred restaurant myself,
487
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,880
because I can't stand all that, you know - we call it ... really -
488
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,960
all that over-the-topness.
489
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080
- All I really want...
- Yeah.
490
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,360
The director is now going to say, "What about your prices, Rick?"
491
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,160
Yeah!
492
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280
When I knew I was coming to Bombay,
493
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,760
I naturally wanted to visit the slums.
494
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,320
The vast, sprawling,
495
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,600
corrugated shantytown I'd seen in Slumdog Millionaire.
496
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920
And I'm not alone, because many visitors, holidaymakers
497
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,400
and businesspeople, make a beeline here.
498
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Not out of any morbid curiosity,
499
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,840
more as a genuine interest in how so many people get along,
500
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,600
run a business, raise a family and educate their kids.
501
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,320
It's a marvel.
502
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,240
- So, yeah, a lot of industry is happening here.
- Really?
503
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,520
- Recycling, you know...
- Because it looks a bit shocking.
504
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520
That's true, but I'll show you something.
505
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,600
Good Lord! Unbelievable! That...
506
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,880
- I mean, the contrast! What are they doing?
- That's embroidery.
507
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,800
- They make the logos?
- T-shirts?
- Yeah, they can be anything.
508
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,920
If you want, you can make your own logo.
509
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480
So really, it's a question of attitude.
510
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,320
You can either say this is a frightful slum...or it's...
511
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,280
you know, it's testimony to people's ingenuity
512
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480
- to do things...
- Yeah, yeah.
513
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,200
For me, it's kind of possibilities.
514
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040
It's a shame in a way that it's called a slum, isn't it?
515
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,920
- Maybe it's because there's not any other name.
- Yeah!
- To say.
516
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,200
So a lot of work going on here, a lot of people live here,
517
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,520
a lot of migrant community.
518
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,640
- Just have a look here, all making something.
- Some cooking.
- Please come.
519
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,880
- Excuse me.
- Please come see.
- I feel a bit like we're imposing.
520
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,920
- That is beautiful!
- That's chapatti. You can see, no oil.
521
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,400
- It's healthy!
- Does he mind me touching it?
- No, no, it's OK.
522
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,520
- I'll buy it off him anyway.
- If you want you can eat it.
- I'd love to eat it.
523
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:08,080
- We believe in sharing the food, so...
- The best chapatti I've ever eaten!
524
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,280
- He's asking, do you want some vegetables?
- I'd love some vegetables.
525
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920
What's he got in there then?
526
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,680
Green chilli, salt. You like it?
527
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:23,840
- I love it!
- Finish it, eat.
- I will!
- You taste it.
- Really good!
528
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:30,000
All it was was courgettes, green chillies, onions, garlic and salt.
529
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560
It felt strange walking down these alleyways
530
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,200
because I never knew what was behind each door we passed.
531
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,400
Krishna wanted me to see
532
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,280
a blast furnace right in the middle of this township.
533
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,080
Imagine you're a health and safety officer - where would you start?
534
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,200
You see they're melting the aluminium there.
535
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,480
- It can't be very healthy for them.
- That's true.
536
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,560
You can see the working conditions, right?
537
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,720
It's a small place and they don't even wear proper gloves and masks.
538
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,120
But if you tell them, "Why can't you wear gloves and a mask?"
539
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,120
They say, "It's hot, and we don't want it. It's OK, no problem."
540
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,880
It's kind of... They are very proud of their work.
541
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,240
Just as well! Can we get out of here? I'm beginning to choke.
542
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Krishna tells me that people like lawyers and doctors live here
543
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,680
because they choose to.
544
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,280
Bombay is so expensive
545
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,280
and the alternative is to move miles away and commute.
546
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,040
So they prefer to stay here in the centre of things.
547
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Noticing, walking around,
548
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,240
and of course lots of other people have said this - you can think of a
549
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:41,160
slum as being depressing or you can think of it as being ingenious...
550
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,600
Once you're inside, you see it is really organised.
551
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:52,320
But if you see the...the... infrastructure, it is really poor.
552
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,640
For example, there are open drainages,
553
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,880
electricity wires hanging everywhere, the working condition is poor.
554
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,200
But despite of that, you see the sense of community, huge,
555
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,800
and that people are doing something,
556
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,560
there's some kind of positive stuff happening.
557
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,040
One of my literary heroes,
558
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,000
who incidentally was born in Bombay, is Rudyard Kipling.
559
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,840
If this slum had been in existence in his time,
560
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,560
I know he would have come here
561
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,960
because he said in this piece about Bombay, "The smell of oil
562
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:31,440
"and spices and puffs of incense and sweat and darkness and dirt
563
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,520
"and lust and cruelty.
564
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,480
"But above all, things wonderful and fascinatingly innumerable."
565
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,480
There are certain places you go to that you're not absolutely sure
566
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,920
where you are.
567
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Well, I know I'm in India,
568
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,000
but I feel I've been transported somewhere,
569
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,520
maybe on the French Riviera.
570
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,960
And I'm warming to the idea of a nice cold glass of rose
571
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,280
and maybe a bouillabaisse.
572
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,400
MUSIC: "La Marseillaise" by Claude Joseph Rouget de Lisle
573
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,200
This is the town of Pondicherry,
574
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,080
three hours' drive along the East Coast Road south of Madras,
575
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,760
now known as Chennai.
576
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,440
It used to be the jewel in France's Indian crown.
577
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,360
The churches twinkle in the sunshine.
578
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,280
They look as though they were freshly built, almost edible.
579
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,720
The roads are wide
580
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,760
and the street signs acknowledge three centuries of French rule.
581
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:09,040
This little corner on the romantic Coromandel Coast will for ever be
582
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,800
La Belle France.
583
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,880
The language remains
584
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,360
and so do the smart kepis worn by the local policemen.
585
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
And so does the patisserie.
586
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560
'This could be anywhere in France and, tradition aside,
587
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,320
'it's such a great idea.
588
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,640
'All these tourists that come here from Europe
589
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,560
'dreaming of coffee, freshly-baked bread and apricot jam,
590
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,120
'they can't go wrong.'
591
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,120
Historically, France's grip on the subcontinent
592
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,200
wasn't so assured as the British.
593
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,760
It quite simply came down to British sea power.
594
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Britain had the bigger navy, the stronger navy, and took over India.
595
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Otherwise, I suspect places like Kolkata and Mumbai would have French architecture -
596
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,400
wide boulevards, lovely, graceful, white buildings...
597
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Not so austere as the British ones.
598
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,960
And, of course, I'd be sitting having a coffee and a croissant anywhere
599
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,080
and probably looking forward to steak frites
600
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,040
and a glass of red wine for dinner.
601
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,240
They can't make enough baguettes here and they're authentic.
602
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,800
The name Baker Street reeks of French humour, it's very obvious.
603
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,720
The manager is Ezhilmathi.
604
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:35,000
I had your baguettes for my breakfast this morning
605
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,480
and I could have been back in Paris. They were that good.
606
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,520
We try to make it, each and every time,
607
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,440
exactly proper French baguettes.
608
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,760
So you've lived in France, then?
609
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,680
- I lived, I've been 25 years in France.
- 25 years?
610
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,920
Ten years in production, 15 years in sales.
611
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,120
- Your cafe downstairs is filled with French people.
- Yeah.
612
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,640
- But do Indians like this bread too?
- Surely, surely.
613
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,880
There are now, each and every time, there are lot of French...Indian people
614
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:12,120
from Bangalore and...Chennai, many local people, Pondicherry people,
615
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,920
when they try these baguettes and now, many Indian people,
616
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,200
they love our French baguettes.
617
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,040
'I wanted to taste a fusion of French and Tamil cuisine.
618
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,960
'They call it Creole here.'
619
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,840
A friend of mine suggested this place -
620
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,560
quite a posh hotel that prides itself in this fusion of taste.
621
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,680
And so, the speciality on the menu du jour is...
622
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,400
BOTH: Sauteed lemon pickle prawn.
623
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Aran and Ashok - Ashok's the one in the chef's whites -
624
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,760
show me how it's done.
625
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,880
After sauteing ginger, garlic and shallots,
626
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,720
they add some sliced courgettes.
627
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:11,120
And then, some plumptious prawns,
628
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,360
which I imagine came off the fishing boat
629
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,520
only hours ago on a beach nearby.
630
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,560
Next, a pinch of pickled lemons,
631
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560
an influence that spreads all the way form North Africa,
632
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,960
where the French dominated.
633
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,160
And then, some garam masala.
634
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,000
And now, the dried, almost Provencal herbs - rosemary and thyme.
635
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,720
Finished off with fresh basil, coriander and some seasoning.
636
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:44,080
This looks really good. I mean, I can see the French ingredients.
637
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,560
There you got the thyme and the rosemary and the olive oil.
638
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,000
- Yes, sir.
- But then, you put garam masala in as well, which is...
639
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Because this is supposed to be Creole cuisine.
640
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,200
But Creole, you know, Pondicherry Creole,
641
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,840
which means when the French came to India,
642
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,960
they brought their own ingredients, but it did not last for long.
643
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,440
As a result, they started using our ingredients also.
644
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120
But this is still recognisably a French sort of dish,
645
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,120
albeit with local flavours.
646
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,960
- Yes, that's right, sir.
- Perfect fusion.
- Yes, sir.
647
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,320
- I'm very keen to try these shallots.
- Please.
648
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,280
- I mean, I can taste the olive oil.
- Yes.
649
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,960
- And taste the garam masala.
- Yes.
650
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,680
- It's a very nice dish.
- It's a real fusion, actually.
- It really is.
651
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,080
I think it's fair to say that Gandhi's peaceful mission
652
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,560
to boycott all things British in the early 1900s
653
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,800
would have gone down extremely well with the French in Pondicherry.
654
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,880
Maybe that's why the people here erected this massive statue in his honour.
655
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Gandhi actually came
656
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,600
from an upper-middle class family in Gujarat,
657
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,200
he was an intellectual.
658
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,960
And before his famous passive resistance,
659
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,960
where he inspired the independence movement,
660
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,800
he actually went to the UK to study law
661
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,520
and, as a strict vegetarian,
662
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,840
couldn't really find anything to eat.
663
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,640
Apart from what he had at his landlady's,
664
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,240
which was boiled cabbage, potatoes, bread, cake and jam and cups of tea.
665
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,240
He did finally discover
666
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:26,800
that he could cook, from Indian shops in London, for himself, vegetarian food,
667
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,800
but the only British dish he really liked was porridge.
668
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,080
There was a time when even HE had his doubts about vegetarianism,
669
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,320
simply because all of India's powerful invaders,
670
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,600
the Moguls, the Portuguese, the Arabs
671
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,360
and, of course, the British,
672
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,440
all ate lots of meat.
673
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,880
So, therefore, the young Mahatma thought, "Hang on a tick,
674
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,400
"if all the Indians could eat meat,
675
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,160
"they'd be strong enough to kick the British out!"
676
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Apparently, he tried a bit of roast goat
677
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,400
and found it a dreadful experience and never again to be repeated.
678
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,480
All thoughts in that area were soon forgotten.
679
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
In honour of Gandhi's passion for all things veggie,
680
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,280
back at my house on the edge of the lagoon,
681
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,160
I'm going to cook my favourite vegetable curry,
682
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,840
a curry I could eat for breakfast every day.
683
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,200
I'm now going to make aloo dum, or, in this case, actually,
684
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,840
I'm going to call it aloo mattar,
685
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,240
because it contains peas as well as potatoes.
686
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:30,280
But aloo dum is probably the most common vegetable dish
687
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,640
all over India.
688
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,480
You get it everywhere
689
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,720
and I think it's a bit like chips with everything,
690
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,240
you have aloo dum with everything.
691
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,840
So, first of all, I saute some parboiled potatoes in mustard oil.
692
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,000
You don't need any longer than five minutes.
693
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,800
Then, a sprinkle of turmeric to give it a nice, golden glow.
694
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,360
Stir that in and put to one side.
695
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,880
Add a bit more oil, mustard oil,
696
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,880
and now, some Indian bay leaves,
697
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,360
just not worth using European bay leaves.
698
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,040
If you haven't got these, don't bother about it.
699
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,360
I often think they've got a slight flavour of cinnamon,
700
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160
so if you haven't got them,
701
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,280
it might be an idea just to put an inch or so of cinnamon in here.
702
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,320
Just a tiny bit of asafoetida,
703
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,640
which is very pungent,
704
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,840
but, as the Indians say, if it's not there, you notice it.
705
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,520
And to complement the asafoetida and enhance the dish even further,
706
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,240
I add freshly-made paste of onion, garlic and ginger.
707
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,480
And now, some powders.
708
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Now, I say powders, but I have actually ground these up.
709
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,840
Well, not me, I got them done, actually, it wasn't actually me.
710
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,160
Teaspoon of chilli powder.
711
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,440
A teaspoon of coriander
712
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,800
and a teaspoon of cumin powdered.
713
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,560
And now, quite an unusual ingredient,
714
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,880
which is called amchoor,
715
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,640
which is actually dried mango.
716
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,120
And not too much, about half a teaspoon, it's very concentrated.
717
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,600
So now, a little bit more turmeric.
718
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,360
And then, some salt.
719
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Now, quite a lot of tomato.
720
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,160
I've just bought tomatoes and whizzed them up in a food processor.
721
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,560
They're so good here that you don't really need to buy tinned tomatoes.
722
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,680
You probably couldn't buy them anyway.
723
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,720
Next, some sliced green chillies.
724
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,720
I like a bit of heat in my food, so I've kept the seeds in.
725
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,000
And I splash more water to keep it moist.
726
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
And now, the potatoes.
727
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,080
That is looking so nice
728
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,440
and may I suggest that next time you go down to your local Indian,
729
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360
if you don't do this already,
730
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,280
make sure you order aloo dum,
731
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,160
which is just the potatoes,
732
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,160
or aloo mattar, which is with the peas.
733
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,760
You'll be so glad you did.
734
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,800
And finally, I'm going to put in some garam masala. About a teaspoon.
735
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,880
Very often in Indian dishes you end the dish with some garam masala.
736
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,240
But you might start it with garam masala as well.
737
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:22,360
But the point of it going in at the end is it just gives all that spiciness a real lift.
738
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,040
Finish off with a sprinkle of freshly chopped coriander.
739
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,000
And by the way, that amchoor gives it a real sour zest.
740
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,040
There it is. What do you think of that?
741
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,040
I met up with a cookery writer, Lourdes Louis,
742
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:48,440
who comes from an eclectic family of Tamil, French and Vietnamese.
743
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,840
To her, Pondicherry is a place like no other.
744
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,160
So what would it have been like here in the colonial times, in the '40s, '50s?
745
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,360
We had a lot of French people, European French, living here.
746
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,680
And, of course, the local Pondicherrians, who had French nationality.
747
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,760
And we had also the schooling in French.
748
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,000
- Wow!
- And many in Pondicherry, many Pondicherrians, speak French at home.
749
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,800
- Really?
- French is like our mother tongue.
750
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,000
Lourdes lives on the outskirts of the French Quarter.
751
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,640
And she's offered to cook me
752
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,600
a typical dish from Pondicherry, chicken vindaye.
753
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,080
She starts off with oil.
754
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,200
And it's sunflower oil she's using. Then a bay leaf.
755
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,800
They do taste different, these Indian bay leaves.
756
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,760
Cinnamon, the merest hint.
757
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,000
Just one clove, and a little bit of star anise.
758
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,880
Next, onion.
759
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,560
- So you're starting with some whole spices?
- Yes.
760
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,200
The whole spices - don't pound, powder them. Leave it as such.
761
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,000
And I notice you've got star anise in there,
762
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,480
which is quite rare in India, isn't it?
763
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,080
But in Pondicherry cuisine, we have a lot of star anise.
764
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,680
But very little because of its medicinal value. You know?
765
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,480
We value a lot, the balance of the food, not only for the taste,
766
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,600
but also for the medicinal value.
767
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,360
And most of the food we cook is based on ayurveda.
768
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Ayurveda is, er... Ayur is life, veda is science. Science of life.
769
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,200
And we believe very much that we are what we eat, which is true.
770
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,680
- You are a chef. You know it very well.
- Yes, yeah.
- Try.
771
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Mind, mind, it's very hot.
772
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,280
That's beautiful. There's a really sort of plumptiousness,
773
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,560
to use English, about it. And it's sweet, thoroughly cooked.
774
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,320
And I can even - you only put a tiny bit of star anise in there, but I can taste it.
775
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,200
- You can taste it. Very subtle. Very, very subtle.
- Lovely.
776
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,720
- And it's not overpowering.
- No.
777
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:07,320
This is garlic with cumin and a vee bit of fenugreek.
778
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,240
- A vee bit?
- A little bit.
- A vee bit, I see!
779
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,640
I love the word vee bit. I really like that word.
780
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,120
- I shall use it from now on. It just means a little pinch.
- Yes.
- Good.
781
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,480
Chilli powder. Turmeric powder.
782
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,480
Stir it a bit. Be very careful not to burn the spices.
783
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,800
And now the tomato.
784
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,240
Now we have to cover it and allow the tomato to cook.
785
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:44,800
You know why we use the spices, it's just to, you know,
786
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,480
we believe in India that the meat, or fish, have a kind of smell.
787
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,560
It disturbs the palate that is being used to vegetarian food.
788
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,360
Really? So is there a word for that?
789
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,920
We call in the south, cauchee. Smelly.
790
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,120
The meat smell and the fish smell.
791
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,160
In the same way the Chinese put ginger with fish, I think.
792
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,240
Exactly. Exactly.
793
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:12,880
Once the tomatoes have cooked right down,
794
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,440
Lourdes adds the chicken pieces and white wine vinegar,
795
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:22,280
the ingredient that gives this dish its name, vindaye.
796
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,400
This dish is called vindaye.
797
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,760
It's a deformation of the French dish, vin d'ail.
798
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,240
They have stuck it together, called it vindaye.
799
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:35,160
- So, this is unique to Pondicherry, is it?
- Very typical.
800
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,600
- Nowhere else you'll get it.
- Actually, I do remember in Goa, vindaloo.
801
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,240
Mm. Nothing to do with this. Nothing to do with this.
802
00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:47,160
- Vindaloo is nothing to do with this.
- Yeah, but they do use vinegar there.
803
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,920
They do use vinegar, but not white vinegar.
804
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,120
They use a kind of vinegar
805
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,280
made out of the cashew nut fruit. And...sorry.
806
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,400
- You don't like it?
- No. Sorry. The smell is very yucky.
807
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,160
- It spoils the curry, in fact.
- Fine.
808
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,640
I bet if I went to Goa and said, "Do you know they use vinegar
809
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,760
- "over in Pondicherry..."
- Tell them, tell them.
810
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,840
It's different vinegar, different taste, you know? Now we'll taste.
811
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,920
Tell me, Craig. Taste and tell me.
812
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,680
I'll give you a different spoon, sorry.
813
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,960
It's Rick.
814
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,440
'After about 15 minutes, the dish is ready to serve.
815
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,520
'I must say, it smells really good,
816
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,200
'and I'm rather looking forward to tasting it.'
817
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,680
Bon appetit, Rick.
818
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,440
Merci!
819
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:42,360
- That's very nice.
- Like it?
- Mmm.
- Not too hot for you?
- No, not too hot.
820
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:49,720
- It's very...
- Subtle?
- Subtle, yeah. Mild.
- Yes.
- I love the tomato in it.
821
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,080
Personally, of course, I love the vinegar in it,
822
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,800
because I like that sort of tartness in it, tanginess.
823
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,560
Using curry in the generic sense of being Indian food generally, I'm
824
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,520
looking for my top ten, and I think this might well be in that top ten.
825
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,760
Thank you, thank you.
826
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,480
'Talking of top dishes, I have to tell you about this place.
827
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,560
'Actually, I stopped here on my way down to Pondicherry from Chennai.
828
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,240
'I was told about an ancient 8th century
829
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,200
'temple in the town of Mamallapuram.
830
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,960
'But always being a bit peckish,
831
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,800
'I headed straight to the little restaurants on the beach instead.'
832
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,640
'It's funny, but when I see a sign like this roughly
833
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,440
'stencilled on a wall in such delightful Indian colours,
834
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,440
'I just know that the food is going to be really good.'
835
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,840
'And if you're in Southern India,
836
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,240
'then fish curry should be the top of your list.
837
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:53,400
'The folks here at the Seashore Garden restaurant make,
838
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,440
'I think, one of the very best.'
839
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:01,720
'The ingredients are fresh as can be, and the cooking time is minimal.
840
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:05,680
'What seems like an enormous amount of chilli powder is fried
841
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,600
'with shallots, green chillies, curry leaves and garlic.
842
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,520
'And here's the star ingredient, a beautiful snapper,
843
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,880
'firm and absolutely fresh,
844
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:24,320
'caught just a few miles off this very beach on the Coromandel Coast.
845
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,840
'To finish the masala sauce, in goes the tomato paste,
846
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,080
'and what makes this curry undeniably South Indian - tamarind.
847
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:37,680
'A few more whole green chillies for added heat and it's time,
848
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,320
'time to taste.'
849
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,600
Like this.
850
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,480
Like this. Yeah.
851
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:52,880
Just watching him put some of the sauce on his hand then tasting it.
852
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,360
It's cos the Hindus just will not taste anything.
853
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,720
It's all about hygiene.
854
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,880
You put a spoon in something and you taste it, it's unhygienic.
855
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,800
- Am I right?
- Yes.
- I'm right.
856
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,240
I actually tried, when I was back in the UK, one of these what
857
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,560
I like to call Madras fish curries, rather than Chennai fish curries.
858
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,000
It was made exactly like that.
859
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,520
Seriously, it's a very good fish curry.
860
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,720
It's the best fish curry I've ever tasted.
861
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:26,280
Want to get it back home in the restaurant,
862
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,080
and I know it's going to be superb.
863
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,520
'This, to me, is a seafood chef's nirvana,
864
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,480
'sitting feet away from the water's edge in balmy sunshine
865
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,080
'enjoying a mind-blowing fish curry cooked in hardly any time at all.
866
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,760
'This place is a great find, and life can't possibly get any better.
867
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,800
'Can it?'
868
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,160
That is just simply perfect.
869
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,240
I mean, the fish is so fresh, you can taste the sea.
870
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:05,520
You know, when it's dead fresh fish like that, oh, heaven.
871
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,600
And the tamarind just gives it such a zest, and the curry leaves,
872
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,920
and of course, the green chillies in it. It is superb.
873
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,360
- So, would you put that on your list of best curries?
- Would I?
874
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,640
I mean, seriously, for me, and I think I'm a bit biased,
875
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,440
I have to say, but fish curry like this...
876
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,320
..could be the one. I know.
877
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,160
I've got to be thinking of this cos some of those chicken
878
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,360
ones are really good. We haven't had any beef ones yet.
879
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,800
We've got to go to Kerala where there's lots of Christians
880
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,600
that have beef, and the goat, the mutton curry's fantastic.
881
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,400
But fish, a big piece of snapper like this, oh! Heaven.
882
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,800
'I know there are other curries out there that maybe could
883
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,800
'possibly eclipse that moment,
884
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,360
'but what a joy of a journey to find out if that's true.'
885
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:03,840
BUS HORN HONKS
886
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,040
We've been travelling now for three weeks,
887
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,000
and I have to find the perfect curry.
888
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:15,480
The crew are trying to tempt me with things like egg and chips, pork
889
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,360
chops, green beans, roast beef, all those things that remind me of home,
890
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:25,440
but no, I shall continue in this quest to find the perfect curry.
891
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,400
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892
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INDIAN MAN'S VOICE: That's a mind-blasting curry, Ricky.
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