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Tonight, it's part two of "The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills" Reunion.

Jennifer Tilly, how are you feeling heading

into your first reunion?

It's glittery and it's glamorous,

and then there's screaming. [laughs]

Girl, you said you were Chinese.

Where did that come from that you're Chinese?

Are we Chinese or are we not Chinese?

Boz said on the Hot Mic podcast, when discussing textgate,

Kyle is a liar.

- Hmm! - I never lie.

Omissions equal lies.

You went back to your room in Oceanside and called PK?

Can you wrap your head around how----ed up that is?

You haven't said two words since you've been here.

Sometimes- Because you keep talking!

...it was so vicious, you know, with that really beady stare?

She didn't come today?

And I know you're used to buying people.

Who have I tried to buy, honey?

Oh.

Here she comes.

Here she comes.

[tense music]

It's part two of The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills Reunion.

[confident music]

Hello, hello. It's the big day.

- Yes, it is. - Good to see you.

- How are you? - Good, thank you.

Do you want some water or anything?

Oh, I would love a coffee.

What kind of donuts do they have there?

- The maple bars. - Oh, maple bars,

that's my favorite. Thank you.

You can't trust any of them.

Yeah. I didn't know that Kyle was so angry.

The thing is with both of you, the two of you

together are mean girls.

[scoffs]

This is bullsh--.

It's awful. Can I go home now?

I want to. [both laugh]

How are you feeling about today?

- Are you excited? - Well, I'm enjoying my lunch.

Very good chicken.

No, not... not about the lunch,

about going out there on stage.

Oh, I'm excited.

How annoyed do I look? I'm very annoyed.

Let's clear, please.

Better to speak your truth now than have them come back

later with some other sh--.

Five, four, three...

We are back with The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills Reunion. I'm Andy Cohen.

So, we just took a lunch break.

Garcelle, was there something you wanted to say, I heard?

Yeah, I wanted to say to Kyle that it feels like

you told me things off camera to shut me up.

I told you off camera

because it was stuff that I couldn't say on camera.

And I was just trusting you and sharing with you.

It was my way of getting to a deeper level with you

and showing that we're friends and I'm, I'm trusting you.

- Okay. Okay, thank you. - Thank you.

You felt a certain way about her telling you

some information off camera.

Was it about she who cannot be named?

Yeah.

All like, the tabloids, you know, all the stories

you know, out there. I know there's a lot of curiosity

about the person they always talk about.

I'm not using her name intentionally.

I don't want to speak on anyone's behalf except my own.

It's not my place to talk about other people.

For people at home who are saying wait,

you're on a reality show, you're supposed to...

tell us everything, you would say what to them?

I am not going to, for example,

say something that is going to affect my daughters' lives

for a TV show, for a network, for fans,

- for ratings, ever. - I agree.

So, if it's going to hurt somebody that I love

and care about, I don't care.

I just don't see why it's not okay for you to say

like, "I'm not doing that."

It is okay to say, "I'm not sharing."

- Yeah. - Like, stand in that.

Like, just put ten toes down

and you're like, I'm not gonna talk about it

and y'all can feel any kinda way you want about it.

I'm not doing it. But you don't have to say like,

"Oh, I'm sharing, I'm sharing."

I could not have said anything

and just zipped my mouth like a lot of people do here.

Dorit, you've said that Kyle has two sets of rules.

- Yep. - One for everybody else

- and one for you. - Yep.

But see, I also feel like that.

She acts differently with Erika than she does with me.

- How so? - It's just the same thing.

Like, you're quick to forgive and let things brush off

with Erika and not with me.

When have I ever held a grudge with you, ever?

You let things slide with her.

I don't let things slide with...

I, I let things slide with you

more than anyone in this group.

- Well, I don't agree. - And that's why I got

to where I got to, genuinely.

All I know is I had PTSD coming here today

'cause I thought, my God, is somebody gonna come

in my dressing room and show me a text.

What the [bleep].

"Hi, I've been wanting to reach out because I know

we're in a weird place. Of course, some of the interview

comments hurt my feelings and created issues."

They always do. "I don't want to lose someone else in my life

over a TV show."

How would you feel if you got this message?

- I would feel manipulated. - Okay.

So, Dorit, do you stand by reading the text?

You know, when, when Kyle went publicly

and said that I exaggerated our friendship,

there were no more rules that--

You couldn't go any lower.

And that I exaggerated our friendship?

To me, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

That meant there were no more rules.

It was simply to demonstrate

that I had sent her a text message months before,

no response. There was a good three, four months.

Oh, for my birthday, I remember you texted me.

That's right. No response. Nothing.

Didn't hear from her. No response.

Well, that was right after Watch What Happens Live.

Right, so you were upset about Watch What Happens Live.

- I was. I was. - How has Kyle's new friendship

with Morgan Wade affected your friendship with her?

Ugh, I mean, she'll kill me, but I feel like

the closer she got with Morgan, the further she got from me.

Wow.

Because that has nothing to do with our friendship.

So, that was just a way of getting a dig in.

- How? - And saying something

that's gonna create more issues for me out there.

The question was specifically,

how has Kyle's friendship with Morgan

affected your friendship with Kyle?

And I answered honestly.

Kyle, the last time we were close,

we all had dinner, with Morgan, in London, for Mau's birthday.

Mm-hmm.

After that,

it's like you and I, you distanced yourself from me.

I guess... I'm trying to look at this from a different

perspective now, but I knew that, you know,

Morgan had nothing to do with me, you know,

pulling away from you. I knew that it wasn't the case.

You know, that comment bothered me

because it just created another issue.

But I do apologize.

You told Kyle you believe the real reason she's mad at you

is because of the comments about Morgan

on Watch What Happens Live,

um, why do you believe those comments

got her in trouble with Morgan?

Anytime Morgan's name is mentioned

in any public forum,

I'm sure Kyle gets the brunt of it

because she's the one who's introduced Morgan to this.

You're right in the sense that I brought her into this

and I feel guilty about that because it causes her anxiety

and she doesn't want to be part of that.

By the way, she is a public, she's a singer

who has music out and performs publicly.

I know, but it's different than the Housewives fandom

and all that. It's a very different vibe.

- Well, true. - But with that said-

But with, with singing and performing

comes speculation about your life.

- Yeah. - You know, you put music

videos out there and then you're-

She had not experienced it until here.

Okay. Well, she also experienced, I would think,

greater publicity.

Mm-hmm.

And greater attraction and interest

as a result of this. I mean, she-

Guys, listen, everyone has a different perspective.

She became a household name.

I didn't get in trouble.

She did not... it's not like that.

She had a New York Times article about her.

She was, that was... okay, there was not... that's not-

By the way, you're the one who had said-

- Can I finish my? Sorry. - Please.

But I do just want to point out,

putting out a music video that is like,

the two of you as lovers,

it contributed so mightily to a conversation...

- Oh, it did. - ...that was already

a runaway train. And that was...

- It did. - ...totally in her hands.

- I have to say, like- - And mine.

It's like, at some point,

you can't have your cake and eat it, too.

- Agree. - I mean, sorry.

But you guys have said, you know, if they're gonna talk

about it, let's give 'em something to talk about.

So, what happened was, I didn't get in trouble.

I was like, I just can't deal with one more thing.

And it was just like the icing on the cake of all the different

things that had been like, chipping away at me.

So, while she doesn't like that, no.

Dorit, you said many times that what you wanted from Kyle

was more openness and honesty.

And Kyle, you seem to want more accountability from Dorit.

Did you two get what you were looking for, from each other?

Have you gotten to that place?

I think that we can still work on that.

[suspenseful music]

I think that I definitely felt like I was getting it

until of course, the whole PK text message,

which I'm sure we'll end up talking about.

- Right now. - But I also feel like

it's a work in progress.

Okay. All right, gotta break here.

Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back.

Coming up.

You said that there are secrets.

- Yes, because- - Can you just wrap your head

around how----ed up that is?

of Beverly Hills Reunion.

Well, as if Kyle and Dorit's friendship wasn't already

hanging on by a thread, Kyle's text thread with PK

revealed things aren't always what that meme.

[chuckles] Or "mim".

PK is in a very unpredictable state of mind.

I'm curious if you're speaking to him?

[tense music]

If Kyle is talking to PK without Dorit's knowledge,

this goes against the girl code.

If I was Dorit and I found out that Kyle

is keeping PK's secrets, I would be done.

It's not even that Kyle's been communicating with PK

since our separation. The point is that

you're texting my husband when you and I are not talking.

That's not girl code.

I apologized and I will not talk to him again.

What more do you - ing want from me?

I want you to----ing raising your voice to me.

- I told... no. - Whoa! Whoa!

You don't get to speak to me that way!

No pointing the nails. No pointing the nails.

The rules are different!

And this is exactly why you are not friends

with people's spouses.

[scoffs]

You not showing her the text

was really bothering her.

I'm not gonna sit there and pull out my phone and say,

"Oh, here. Here's what I"-

That's what she wants you to do.

Oh, okay, well out of principle,

she can go [bleep] right off.

I said, "I know you have a lot of friends

but I am also one and here if you need me.

I've never repeated anything you've shared with me

and never would."

I don't know if her story is shifting

or if I heard it wrong because all this time,

Kyle is really defending that it's just memes and jokes.

My friendship with PK is memes and jokes.

Can you still be friends with PK?

But I'm not even cooling it. I'm just gonna say

don't send me memes. This is so dumb.

- It doesn't feel right. - Can you read the text, please?

I'm being made to feel like I did something wrong

sending a text to PK. I said, "I know you have a lot

of friends, I'm also one if you need me.

I've never repeated anything you've shared with me."

Meaning, I'm talking about this.

Okay? Which I can't say

because we were filming and in production.

And that is all I----ing said.

Now I'm done. I'm not gonna be made...

- Kyle. - ...be made to feel I've done

something wrong. I've loved you and your family.

[bleep] everybody. I'm done with this sh--.

I'm not doing this anymore.

- Hmm. - All right,

not pleasant to watch that back.

- No. - But do you not see,

I mean, I just wonder when you see that...

- Mm-hmm. - ...and you tell Boz

she can go [bleep] the [bleep] off

if she thinks I'm going to show her the text.

- Yes, because- - Can you just wrap your head

around how----ed up that is?

First of all, let me back up a little bit.

That text to PK was not a random text on a Wednesday,

"By the way, I'm thinking about you."

It was because this now separation happened.

We already went over this, Kyle.

No, I wanna say it again. This is my turn to talk.

So, you kept saying to me, "Why didn't you, you know,

tell me that you had texted PK?" You and I weren't speaking.

And then I did text you, and you never responded to it.

I saw your announcement for your separation.

I texted both of you, period.

It was going around and around like this text was a random

text out of nowhere. It was only because of the separation.

- It was not. - Other than that,

like we really don't communicate like that. You know that.

I did not blindside her with you know,

the right opportune moment about stuff with PK.

I mean, PK tells me a lot of stuff.

I'm talking about Chuck E. Cheese

and I'm talking about you reading the text,

- just so you know. - I know.

- And I'm talking about it. - Let me ask you this,

after Chuck E. Cheese, she did wind up

reading you the text, right?

Well, she ended up, if you saw,

at Boz's wellness party.

- Yes, reading it to the group. - She did not want to.

- Right. - Boz said "Please!"

- Right. - And she did and stormed off.

Let me get into some questions.

I asked on Watch What Happens Live,

I asked the viewers to vote in a poll

whether they felt that the text to PK was inappropriate.

- You say absolutely. - Absolutely.

And the audience says...

- yes, absolutely. - Yes!

Of course they think that.

What do you think they'd say?

Of course they would say that. I understand that.

Seventy-five percent. You understand that.

- Absolutely I do, yeah. - Okay. Anyone here Team Kyle

in terms of the text that you heard being just fine?

I don't think it was what everybody thought it was.

I took what it said as not talking about Dorit,

but talking about this show.

- Exactly. - That's how I

completely read it.

When you do this, when you're in this environment-

Nobody thought it was insidious.

No, it doesn't... no.

Not insidious like they were having an affair.

No, no one ever said that. No one said.

You have to remember this announcement was made-

I've never said anything you've said

makes it feel like it's something else.

I think the thing that is sticking is that

you said whether it's all about production

or it's about whatever else, that there are secrets.

That's what it sounded like.

How would you feel if you saw a text from Dorit to Mau

saying that he can trust her

because she's never repeated anything he told her, and won't.

Yeah. And not tell you that I was talking or-

- No, I understand. - Would you be-

I understand that would bother me.

- It would? - Yeah, I think that when...

- Yeah. - Okay.

Because I know, I would think...

I would think the same thing.

I'm just telling you, my intention wasn't bad.

But Kyle, you can still be...

you can still abide by girl code or still-

Okay, where was your girl code when you read my text

for millions of people to see?

I'm sorry, but that's already breaking girl code.

That's breaking friend code. That's breaking

- human decency code. - Kyle, don't you understand?

At this point, we were not friends in my mind.

[tense music]

Coming up. Have you texted with PK since?

Yes.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, where was your girl code when you read my text

for millions of people to see?

I'm sorry, but that's already breaking girl code.

That's breaking friend code.

That's breaking human decency code.

Kyle, don't you understand? At this point,

we were not friends in my mind.

- Okay, okay. - Yes, exactly.

You already went publicly and said-

So, if you're not my friend, why do I have to

- ing call and go, "By the way, I know we're not

speaking but I sent you and your husband both a text."

I felt like every time I came to the group,

it was coming at me and coming and me, and I was...

I had----ing had it.

These two, who don't even like you, are saying,

"I can't believe it." And then she's saying,

"Put your phone down, let me look at that."

And then you're saying, "Kyle".

- Who don't even like her. - Everyone coming like this.

I said block him.

Let's just be clear, I said block him.

I'm not doing that.

Kyle, your reaction was so over the top.

- It was, it was. - And it was...

What I expect you to say is, "Yeah, actually,

you know, I sent him a message when you guys separated."

That would be the response I would expect.

- We... - Do you understand?

And I wish I had said it like that.

But you didn't. You flipped out.

I know. I am a girl's girl. I come from a family

of all women, I have all daughters.

I have always been a girl's girl.

And does that feel like a girl's girl

texting the ex-husband? Of course it does not.

Or the separated... husband you're separated from.

Of course it does not.

You are my friend.

And if we are as close as you suggest,

it depends on the day, but if we are that close,

you don't do that, Kyle.

No, I understand that and you have to remember-

But you're not even friends with him like you are

to me, but yet, you're on-

You're in your confessional saying,

"PK's been a better friend to me than Dorit has."

Are you kidding me, Dorit?

And honestly, if I'm going to be really honest,

PK's been a better friend to me than she has lately.

Well, he checked on me when, you know,

we were separated and he knew I was struggling

and you and I weren't speaking. That's why I said that.

And that makes him a better friend?

Just please, all I need you to do

is just marinate on this, okay?

I was not in a good place at all.

- Me either. - Not at all.

But when you needed me,

after the wellness event, which I came after you, Kyle.

I saw you undone, unglued.

- ing ridiculous. [sobbing]

I can't keep doing this. I really can't.

Okay, let's just not talk about it for one second

and just take a deep breath.

No matter what my feelings were about how you hurt me,

all that mattered to me was making sure you were okay.

- And I appreciated that a lot. - That's it.

Well, by the way, we weren't speaking.

And I also did my version of reaching out to you

and trying to be there for you, too, by texting you.

I also tried to be there for you.

Oh, the crystal down!

[overlapping exclamations]

Oh, no! Uh-oh!

- That's bad juju! - Oh, my God.

While you walked outside to get me,

I was doing my version of reaching out to you

and trying to be there for you too when you announced

your separation, Dorit, by texting to you.

I think Dorit just wanted you to choose her.

No, I wanted her to be honest with me.

Boz said on the Hot Mic podcast

when discussing textgate, Kyle is a liar.

Hmm! I don't know if Kyle knew that I thought she was a liar.

- Mm-hmm. - Or that I think she is a liar,

let me make that correct. You know?

Say like, girl... that girl was lying.

Oh, wow. Okay. That's...

I mean, I've never been accused of being a liar, so...

Well, there were lies told.

- What? - I said there were lies told.

What was the lie?

You said you were texting jokes and memes.

And then it was discovered you said something else.

- I never lied. - In the conversations

that I was a part of,

you said it was just jokes and memes.

And then it later came out...

Well, everyone knew about the texts.

...that it was more than that. So, from my perspective,

which is all I was talking about, there was omission.

Omissions equal lies.

It would have been okay to say, "You know what?

Yeah, I did talk some sh-- about you."

- But what if she didn't? - I've never talked sh--

- about Dorit. - Yes.

I can tell you one time that he came over

during the agency party that they had at our house.

And it was the first time,

the only time I had a conversation about...

- Oh, God. - ...just you was about

why we weren't speaking. He's never gossiped about you

- to me. He's not gonna that. - No, but you have to him

- about me. - ...because I was upset

about this or that.

She says you have to him about her.

I have... telling him why we weren't speaking.

Yes, talking sh--, like you're...

you're talking to my husband like he's on your side.

Trying to get him on your side.

Just like you were in Chuck E. Cheese

trying to get these girls on your side.

...I said my feelings were hurt.

Kyle, it's juvenile.

Have you texted with PK since?

I texted when Jagger was in the hospital.

Does it bother you that she texted PK

when Jagger was in the hospital?

It bothers me that she believes

she's got this friendship with PK

where he holds her secrets

and he wouldn't... 'cause guess what?

He tells me every single thing, Kyle.

- I understand that. - So, I know when you call him.

I know when you text him.

I know. I know you do and I know-

- Do you know what I'm saying? - And do you know how much

I have bitten my tongue?

Well, what more do you know

that she hasn't told you that he's told you?

Just the things that she's reached out to him

after Oceanside, she called him

and told him that her and I got in a fight.

You went back to your room in Oceanside and called PK?

After Oceanside, I, I called PK.

This is before the whole thing came up about the text message

and The Viper Room and all that.

And I said, "Just so you know, there is a huge drama."

I think he was actually with Mau.

I said, "There's been a huge drama

and a fight all about this whatever."

Oh, my God. Okay.

Well, I want to move on and this is kind of it

for talking about your friendship.

So, is there a rule of the road?

Where do you two go from here?

All I know is that you're important enough to me

to want to put that aside,

you know, to not hold on to it,

and to move forward and to get to a better place

so we can be there to support each other.

Because we need all the support we can get right now.

And I do love you a lot.

Well, that makes me happy.

But I would love to get together, just you and I,

no cameras, no girls, no Andy.

No, none of these people. Nothing.

- Me too, I would like that. - And actually have,

sit down and see where we are. Is it still there?

Who makes the first move on that?

- I'm happy to. - Okay.

And I'm, and I apologize for any way that I've hurt you.

And I can see where things would look weird.

I understand that. I get that.

Um, and I really do apologize for that.

I couldn't ask for anything more, so...

That's nice. Okay, we're gonna leave it right there.

Positivity. Keep that crystal. We'll be right back.

Gonna jump out of my hand again.

Yeah, I know, that was scary.

What is happening now?

Are we bringing out a special guest?

All right, okay, off we go.

Coming up.

You know, when I saw

a couple of comments that you made,

it actually felt like you had joined...

The dark side.

Ha!

[laughs]

Hello, gorgeous ladies.

I'm so happy you're here.

You all look so pretty on set.

- Hi, hi, hi. - Hello!

My God, this is amazing.

- So good. - You look amazing.

You look like a Disney princess.

Five, four, three...

[crystal clunks]

- Oh! - Geez, Louise.

Oh, my God, that thing does not want to be here.

[gasps] It fell again?

- No, put it down! - We are back with

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion Season 14.

I'm Andy Cohen and I want to welcome

one of our most decorated friends of,

the one and only, Jennifer Rabbit.

Yay!

Hi, Jennifer Tilly.

Make it sound like I'm covered with medals of valor.

- How are you, Jennifer Tilly? - I'm good, thank you very much.

How are you feeling heading in your first reunion?

You know, I'm prepared for anything that comes at me.

- Very good. - Yes.

Well, Jennifer Tilly basically sailed

into this group on a Louis Vuitton boat,

riding a wave of over-the-top energy.

While she may own a piece of The Simpsons,

this Oscar-nominated doll

now owns a piece of everyone's heart.

- Watch. - Aw.

Sutton! Sutton!

Hi!! Hello!

Oh, God. Jennifer's one of my best friends.

[laughing]

[laughs]

Jennifer has the best laugh.

I'm Jennifer, I'm an actress.

People know me from Bride of Chucky.

But I am Oscar-nominated, but nobody ever remembers that.

- I remember that. - My ex-husband was Sam Simon,

who created The Simpsons.

I was married to him for seven years.

And then when we got divorced...

I got a piece of The Simpsons.

Because he created it during our marriage.

Every day, I'm like, "Thank you, Sam."

Like, hello, I'm not buying diamonds on Chucky money.

[laughs]

I'm living for her necklace.

It's Chanel. It's Hermes.

[laughs]

I expect Jennifer to like, roll up with anything

at this point.

It's a boat. It's a Louis Vuitton boat.

I feel like, life is short.

I have fabulous jewelry, I have fabulous clothes.

If I want to wear my fabulous jewelry and clothes, so be it.

Codognato, Codognato, Bulgari, Bulgari.

I'm such an obnoxious show-off.

That bitch has got good sh--.

Oh my gosh.

I like the part where I walk in slow motion.

That's one of my special skills.

- Is it? - Yes.

You know, you have been nominated for an Oscar,

you're a fashion icon, you're a horror icon.

You've won the World Series of Poker.

I thought you were going to say you're a whore.

I thought you were, too. I was like, where are we

going with this?

Yet your bio on Instagram

simply says, "Friend of".

- Yes. - Has the experience been

what you thought it would be?

Well, it's really interesting

because I used to get a lot of respect.

Like, people would come over and be like...

"Oh, Miss Tilly, I'm such a huge fan."

And then they'd run away.

And now they're like, "Oh, scoot over, everybody.

We want to sit down and have a kiki."

And you know what? I'm a, everybody knows

I'm a Housewife superfan. And it's really different

to be in it. I'm sure you all know.

Because you know, it's really real.

Yeah, that's what I said.

It's glittery and it's glamorous,

and then there's screaming. [laughs]

[all laugh]

It's like the part that everybody loves.

They love the glitter and glamor.

You seem to enjoy. You know, in Oceanside,

you were like, wow, this is a show, you know.

I loved it. It was like, dinner and a show.

And then by Saint Lucia, you were kind of in the middle

of it and it became less fun.

You don't like being in the middle of it, you know.

I want to talk about some of the spectacular pieces

you've paraded this season. Scientists-

Okay, I had no idea I was such a show-off.

I'm just like, kind of embarrassed, yes.

- Well, it's the forum. - It's fun.

Scientist Baked on Twitter said,

"Tilly's boat bag

is the only Vuitton I've ever wanted. Cool AF."

- Hmm, yes. - Where'd you get that?

Well, it's designed by Pharell, the singer.

- Oh, my God. - And I have a special

relationship with my Louis Vuitton person.

Like, a lot of people have a drug dealer,

I have a bag dealer. [laughs]

She's calling and she's getting a special edition shipment.

And so, it's very rare. So you know when they did

in the Chiron at the bottom of the page

and they said it was worth $33,000?

I called up my person and I said-

I said, "How much did I pay for that?"

And she said 24,000. So, that's a big difference.

You could probably sell it now for 34,000.

I could probably sell it for $33,000.

- Right. - Nakell Street on Twitter

explained that "The aquamarine and ruby belt buckle necklace

you're wearing for the title shoot."

- Mm-hmm. - "Has been called the most

important piece of American jewelry."

How clever of me.

What makes that necklace so special?

Well, it... Cole Porter commissioned it from a jeweler

called Flato, for his wife, Linda Lee Porter,

who was a famous fashionista.

So, it's, it's a famous necklace, there's only one.

- Wow! - Yeah, I wanted

- to buy it for 20 years. - Wow!

You bought that at auction?

No, I wanted to buy it. The first time I saw it,

I couldn't afford it. And then I got really rich.

- Yeah. - And then I could afford it.

And then I tracked it down and I bought it.

[Sutton giggles] Wow.

So, are the Simpsons checks more than seven figures a year?

- I cannot say. I cannot say. - I'm going to take a guess,

by looking at her jewelry, that it absolutely is.

Okay, I'm just gonna-

It obviously... you look amazing.

And I just want to say, for anyone getting any ideas,

you keep all your jewelry at the bank in a safe.

Yes, I have a safety deposit vault, yeah.

You did a good job playing Switzerland most of the season.

I did, I tried to.

On the After Show, you did throw in a couple digs.

Yeah, I was a little snarky.

The streets were saying he was

staying in the Beverly Hills Hotel.

I don't know how he can afford it.

That's a really expensive hotel.

Damn! Did you hear that?

Okay, I'm going to do a pre-emptive apology,

and I did not feel like that was a dig at you, Dorit.

It's very expensive to stay at the Beverly Hills Hotel,

but maybe only if you're staying in the bungalows.

I thought it was like, 25,000 a night.

- Oh, no, it's not. - No.

Okay, but that was tacky of me.

I was just thinking out loud. But go, tell...

tell your feelings and if that made you feel bad,

because I did not mean to impugn you.

I don't know if PK saw or how he felt.

Well, you know, I have adored you

since the moment I've met you.

Um, but I was really excited.

And we had some fun times.

And I think you're just such a fantastic

addition to this group. I hope you're not going anywhere.

So, when you know, when I saw

a couple of comments that you made,

it actually felt like you had joined...

The dark side.

Well, like the Witches of Eastwick.

[scattered laughs]

The dark side.

And I just felt like, oh no.

I do have a big mouth.

And I didn't even know I had said something bad

until Garcelle is like "Ooh!

Girl, you went there." And I'm like, "Where?

Where did I go?" And then I thought,

oh, I guess that is low. And then I know that the fans

were saying, "Oh, that was really shady." You know?

It's so fun watching you.

And we're gonna leave that there.

- Thank you. - And we're gonna take a break

- and we'll be right back. - All right.

You guys, reunions are exhausting.

I don't know how you do it. [Kyle laughs]

Coming up.

I thought you're miss manners?

They... look.

I thought you're miss manners, my Southern manners.

- I'm not miss manners anymore. - You are.

- No, I'm not. - So, you should know

that that's rude!

Okay, ladies, everyone looking at Andy, please.

Five, four, three...

[laughs]

We are back with The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Season 14 Reunion.

Now, I want to bring out one of my three favorite

Richards sisters, though I swear

I love them all the same, Kathy Hilton.

- Yay, Kathy. - Hi, everybody. Hello.

You're floating out here. Beautiful.

- You look gorgeous. - You really do.

- Thank you. - She brought her purse

- with her. - She always brings her purse.

- It's great to see you. - It's good to see you.

I got a big kick out of you at Sutton's fashion show.

Okay, go.

She said that was very sweet of you.

- Oh, Kathy! Kathy! - Hi, how are you?

Kathy! Kathy, come sit down!

- Nice to see you. - Kathy! Get out of the way!

Get out of the way! Oh, my God, Kathy!

How does it feel to be called fashion roadkill?

I thought you were looking for the bathroom,

and I'm like, of all the times, the show

is about to start right now.

No, I was talking to Mrs. Girardi.

Not Girardi!

I'm Mrs. Girardi, but it's okay.

Mrs. Jayne. Wait, what is your last name?

Well, I'm... it's become a real conversation lately.

- Mrs. Jayne. Mrs. Jayne. - My name is Erika Girardi,

but yeah.

But your last name, Erika Jayne what?

Nothing. Erika Jayne is just a professional name.

- It's her stage name. - It's my stage name.

- It's like a persona. - Well, your middle name is...

Oh, my, I have a country middle name.

- What is it? - Ugh. My mother's name

is Renee. Allegedly, my father used to call her Nene,

so it's Erika Ne.

- You're... what? Erika Ne? - I love it.

Erika Ne, honey.

Kathy, I noticed you have an uncanny ability

to extract gossip and tea from these women

in a way that no one else seems to be able to do.

What's your secret?

Give me just like, an example?

I thought at the lunch at your house,

you did a very good job.

You were hysterical, what you said?

- I didn't see. - Girl, you said you were

Chinese, girl. That was hysterical.

When I was in Venice,

this lady knew everything

and knew I am part Chinese, 3,000 BC.

- What? - Am I Chinese?

This happened on a couture show for Max Mara.

- Where is this going? - So, you heard you were Asian

at the Max Mara show?

Yes, in a castle.

You heard or you did a test? Is it a psychic? Is it DNA?

- It's a psychic from Venice. - No, it wasn't a psychic.

Please make me understand this.

Okay, in Venice, Italy, you found out you were Asian?

Are we Chinese or are we not Chinese?

There's a lady that said, "What is your name?"

And I said, "Kathy Hilton." She said,

"What is your background?" I said, "Actually,

I'm part Northern Italian."

And she asked me for my birth name.

So, I told her. And she looked it up.

And she found out you were Chinese from 3,000 years ago?

- Yes! - Mm-hmm.

Where did she look it up?

On her phone.

[all laugh]

On Google.

- She Googled it! - I don't think she was...

She didn't even know anything about me.

- Obviously. - Clearly.

She said you were Asian.

- Right. - Right. In Beverly Hills,

the women are usually quite filtered.

You came right out and said

Mauricio had aged badly and that PK looked

56 a decade ago.

- Yeah, when you met him. - Though you thought his name

was PJ. Have you always been this shady,

or has hanging out with these ladies

kind of gotten you in the game?

I think it's rubbed off a little bit.

Oh, Kathy Hilton. Kathy!

Kathy, you are the originator.

No, I meant it in a good way.

- You did? - I did mean it in a way. Kyle-

That he looked 56 ten years ago?

He looked more... more...

- Older. - Older, like,

with the weight on him.

[Erika laughs]

Sophisticated.

- The weight? - No, the way he just...

You said after to me,

he looked better since he stopped drinking.

Yes, he did. And he looked so... Now I see this baby face.

- Right. - So, he looked older

- when you met him before. - Yeah.

Because of the drinking and the weight,

- that's what she's saying. - So, I said, "How old is he?"

I always thought there was a bigger age difference.

Because also, Dorit looks really young.

- Yes, she does. - Aw, thank you.

- She does. Very young. - Thank you.

- Yeah. - And as far as Maurice,

he looked like your father when I look at the picture,

compared to the way she looks.

Oh...

Okay, on Watch What Happens Live, I asked Erika,

who's most guilty of sucking up to Kathy?

Oh yeah, let's talk about that.

Who is the group is most guilty

of sucking up to Kathy Hilton?

- Sutton Stracke. - Sutton,

okay, give me another number.

Followed closely by Garcelle.

Okay.

- Do they suck up to you? - No.

- No. - No, we talk about real things.

Excuse me, can we ask Erika, based on what?

Based on it's my opinion. I was asked a shady question,

I gave a shady answer. It's Watch What Happens Live.

Oh right, it's just to be fun and...

Yeah, it wasn't like I sat around thinking about it.

Sutton, what was your response to that?

Kathy, you're not going to chew that gum right now,

- are you? - I'm just gonna suck on it

- for a second. - No, Kathy and I are friends.

We talk a lot. And there's no sucking up to.

- No. - We just are friends.

Did you faint last year because you were afraid of her?

- Yes, I did. - That was the narrative.

No, I fainted because I had a terrible case

of bronchitis and needed to go to the hospital.

And it was a good way to get out of this.

It was a really great way to leave.

And I've been thinking about how I can do it this time, too.

[fake coughs] Just about right now.

- No, I love Kathy to pieces. - Okay.

Before we move on, I do want to ask about Kim.

We've all read that she's not doing well.

I also heard that she moved to Florida. Is there any update?

She's spending time there, you know.

We just... I think she's doing better.

Is she?

Better than the last time

that there was stuff in the press, yes.

And that always... yes, exactly.

Well, we're all thinking about her.

- Thank you. - Thank you. Thank you.

It didn't take long for Sutton's ribbon ceremony

about sisterhood to unravel

into weaponized wallets and watermelon cocktails.

- Hmm! - In the end,

was Sutton able to wrap up these friendships

in a nice, little bow?

The answer is a definitive no, ma'am.

- Let's take a look. - Hmm.

Friendships are not perfect.

There are many...

My hands are sweating.

...twists and turns.

Let us join our palms together.

I really hope that this ribbon

does what Sutton's intending for it to do.

And if not, I can save it in case

I need to strangle one of these ladies.

We are now sisters forever.

God help us.

You can't be real and honest so you can't lead the charge.

You're angry and you're not angry at me.

You're angry at your life.

Ladies and gentlemen,

the woman who loves to support

other women at their lowest.

Did you ask Sutton is there alcohol in it?

- Oh, pfft. - I mean.

Oh, Dorit, shut up. You're such a bitch.

You need to pick on somebody else whose wallet fits.

Oh, damn. Okay, okay, okay.

You think you're bigger than her?

I think my wallet is.

That was really cruel.

Just because her ex-husband dropped a big pocketbook

in her lap, it gives her license to be such a----ing [bleep].

You pose as a friend,

and then oftentimes work as an enemy.

What do y'all----ing want from me?

[tense music]

Seriously. What do you - ing want from me?

No, ma'am, are you going to tell me

that I kick women when they're down.

Don't make me into your enemy. Trust me.

[exhales]

She's such a----ing bitch.

All right, Sutton, what was your goal

in doing the ceremony?

I just felt like we were all so disjointed

and I wanted to bring it back together.

And let's, if we would get angry in the moment,

that we can apologize and still remain friends.

Let's talk about the word weaponize.

- Yeah. - Jessica Rabbit on Twitter

said, "Dorit called someone at the table a C word,

but what Sutton said about her misdirected anger

was too low? Okay."

Garcelle, do you think Boz overreacted to Sutton's comment?

Yeah, it... yeah, I do.

How was that overreacting? You said the words to hurt.

- No, I didn't. No. - Yes, you did.

- Not with intent to hurt. - Yes, you did.

- You said, but it did hurt her. - You chose your words.

That is intention. I think the challenge I'm having...

with a lot of these conversations

is that you can't take accountability for your actions.

- Yes, you did. - You said, but it did hurt her.

You chose your words. That is intention.

I think the challenge I'm having...

with a lot of these conversations

is that you can't take accountability for your actions.

- Here's the thing. - It's like you've gotta say,

I said this thing, I meant it.

- Right. - And you can forget it.

But here's the thing.

But instead you say you didn't mean it.

But Dorit was yelling at everyone.

- Oh, God. - She was cussing

at Camille like crazy.

Honey, you were a total [bleep] to me.

Damn!

You were a total [bleep] to me. You know why?

You called me a----ing [bleep].

I called you a stupid [bleep].

But that's not the way to get somebody to stop yelling.

There is so many better ways to do it.

Well, okay, I, I agree. You know there's a lot of times

I can say things in better ways. And I can learn from that.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's something

- that I can learn from. - But that right there,

that's taking accountability.

Well, sisterhood is all about sharing the difficult moments

in your life. The first time

Dorit opened up to the group about Jagger, you really...

- Hmm. - ...abruptly interrupted her.

He said, "But you and Daddy,

you're always gonna be friends, right?

You're always gonna be best friends."

And I was like, "Well, I sure hope so."

Well, there's incentive for you.

Yeah, that breaks my heart.

- Can I ask you a question? - Speaking of best friends.

I'm sorry, I hate to interrupt. I'm so sorry.

Not only abruptly interrupted.

You then actually proceeded to be even more of a bitch.

"Well, it was long. Well, you know."

This was a long walk, y'all went on.

We had been there for a while.

And production asked me to interrupt you.

And?

- I didn't know- - Excuse me, I'm sorry, Dorit,

I'm so sorry to interrupt.

I didn't know how to do it.

I thought you're miss manners?

They... I... look.

I thought you're miss manners, my Southern manners.

I'm not miss manners anymore.

- You are! - No, I'm not.

So, you should know that that's rude!

- I didn't know how- - You should know

how to interrupt.

What if you had said,

I know this is a terrible awkward moment to interrupt.

But they're asking us to leave.

- ...so poorly. - Yes, excuse me. I'm so sorry.

I did it so poorly. I did it terribly.

- Okay. - You did it deliberately.

Hmm.

You haven't said two words since you've been here.

Sometimes... because you keep talking.

The person that was in the season,

who was so vicious, you know, with that really beady stare?

That you wanna like, really go low? Where is she?

She didn't come today? She didn't come today, Sutton?

Where is she?

'Cause this person is not genuine.

That's not who shows up and that's definitely not

who was here all season long.

Where's the person that calls everybody the C word?

- I'm right here. - That brings us

to Sutton's wallet comment.

Garcelle, was this a moment where you felt like,

you, you couldn't even defend Sutton?

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- Yeah, for sure. - Sutton can't defend Sutton.

- Sutton can't defend Sutton. - No.

I thought it was a terrible comment.

I was actually really shocked.

What about in her confessionals after that?

How she doubled down?

Oh, doubled down, tripled down.

- No, I think it was... - Then she went even further.

I have been very clear that I thought that was actually,

I thought it was a disgusting comment.

I thought it was very beneath you.

We talked about it the other night

and you said to me, "I'm not proud of that."

- No. Terrible. - And I said,

"You shouldn't be."

You... you did in a confessional say

that, um...

You did kind of call me an alcoholic.

The only thing your wallet bought you

was a horse and not a date?

Yeah, that wasn't nice either.

Do you think you deserved it?

Hmm!

[candy wrapper crinkles]

You don't exactly live like the Queen of Sheba.

- Listen. - You live on a----ing

main road.

Oof!

[wrapper crinkles]

So, she lives on a street front in Bel-Air?

That's what you're weaponizing against her?

[candy crunches]

I wouldn't want to live on a----ing main road.

I'm quite happy where I am.

- Great. - And my life is full of love.

- Oh. - There's a hell of a lot more

to a big bank account.

A hell of a lot more, Sutton. But you have to be nice...

- Dorit... - ...in order to get love.

[candy crunches]

Dorit, I do not need for you to tell me

that there is more to life than a big bank account.

I mean, I don't understand why you think

- you're superior to anyone. - See? Here we go.

I don't think I'm superior to anyone.

Well, you certainly behave like it.

And I know you're used to buying people and buying gifts.

- Who I buy, Dorit? - And trying to float around,

but Sutton, there's a lot more to life.

What in the world are you talking about,

that I buy people?

Who have I tried to buy, honey?

Oh.

Here she comes.

[tense music]

Here she comes.

Next week, the reunion concludes.

You told your girls you may be a lesbian too?

Just to make you feel better.

It didn't take a rocket scientist

to understand what was going on.

- And you came in strong. - I am strong.

Did you have any indication that he was seeing anybody?

I do know every, every----ing crumb.

Ooh!

- I'm out. - Oh, no!

- I'm out. - What?

That's really unprofessional. Garcelle!

[tense music peaks]