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[chime]

[happy chiming music]

How are you feeling?

Ready to catch up on the episode?

We've got to fill you in--

- So fun for me to watch. - I know, yeah. Yeah.

Too many snakes in the grass.

Welcome to your first reunion.

I brought water. I'm going to do a lot of talking.

- Yeah, you might get thirsty. - I got a lot of shit to say.

How are you feeling?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I brought you a reunion present.

Oh. That is so nice.

- Oh! - There's my girl!

- Hi. - Hi, my beautiful.

Whose crystals are outside?

Hi all. We're doing this again.

- Fourteen times. - Mwah!

Look what I got! Look what I got!

I'm gonna need it!

- Yeah, how are you feeling? - Girl, oh, my god, I'm excited.

And then I'm also a little nervous.

Normal.

What do you make of the viewers thinking

there's a double standard in terms of what you expect

others to share versus what you share?

What have we seen from Garcelle's life?

And Sutton, I mean like, her sustainability line. Cool.

- Have you spoken to anybody? - Uh-uh.

TMZ caught me coming out of the airport and they were like,

"So, Kyle says you guys are good."

[tense music stops]

Are we?

[music resumes]

Hi!

How are you?

Look at your hair!

How are you?

I'm good. I'm tired, but I'm good. I--

Did you see... last night?

No, I woke up every hour on the hour.

What episode are you on?

I'm on backwards, I watched 17, 16 and then...

14, 15. And now, I think I'm at 12.

But I still haven't seen-- I never saw the Viper Room,

so I think that was episode 6.

I think you should watch that before you sit down today.

- Oh god. - It's not that bad.

You were just upset. I mean, you know that you were upset.

I know, I saw the vein bulging out of my head

and saw everyone talking about the vein on my head.

Yeah, but that's kind of your-- It's kind of your--

- It's my thing? - Yeah. It's kind of your thing.

Who knew?

And that's, you know, that's your thing.

Oh, my God. What do we have to do to get out of today?

Do you want to faint on the couch

and I'll go with you to the hospital like last time?

That's such a good idea. Can you imagine if that happened?

Yeah, I died once on Law & Order, I was 18 years old,

I'm really good at like convulsing or something, so...

And then I'd be like, you guys, I have to go.

And I can't have anybody but Kyle.

Can you imagine?

- Hi, Dorit. - Hi, Andy.

How are you feeling about today?

I don't want to leave here tonight thinking

"Oh, shoot, I wish I'd said that."

- Leave nothing on the table. - That's right.

Is that the expression?

I think we're leaving it all on the stage.

Leave it all on the stage.

- Okay. - Yes, I love it.

- All right, no yawns. - Well...

[glamorous music plays]

- Wow! - Hey, Dorit.

- I'm waiting for you. - Well, let's do it.

Look at you, ladies. Wow.

- And she's a mermaid. - Oh, my God.

- Beautiful, Dorit. - You just... thank you.

Who makes that, Erika?

I don't know, some random designer I had made.

Okay.

All right. Look at us! Oh my gosh!

Hell yeah. I'm gonna have a cocktail right here.

- Wow, looks nice. Hi. - You look beautiful, Kyle.

Thank you. Everybody looks gorgeous.

I love your hair.

Everybody looks gorgeous.

Hi, Boz.

- Hi, Kyle. - How are you?

I'm good.

Here we go, quiet on set, please.

[happy pop music]

Hey, everybody,

welcome to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills

Season 14 Reunion. I'm Andy Cohen.

Tonight I want to welcome you ladies back

to the tropical paradise of Saint Lucia.

- Hi, Kyle. - Hi, Andy.

Now, I just noticed that some, you brought something here.

- Are these? - Yes.

- Mm-hmm. Yes.

These are your crystals?

- These are my crystals. - And these will do what today?

Um, bring me strength and clarity.

Okay.

Maybe help calm me down a little bit.

So I don't end up in the hospital like Sutton

- did last year. - No, we're not doing that.

Okay. Hi, Erika.

- Hey. - Couldn't believe our ears

when we heard your song "Drip" in the movie "Anora."

- Yeah. - Congratulations!

Thank you, I'm a feature on the song.

And the movie won Palme d'Or and now it's up for Best Movie.

- Amazing! - That's great!

Yeah, I know, it's wild, right?

- Yeah, that's awesome. - Hey, Garcelle.

Hey, Andy.

Congratulations on Baby Valley.

Thank you.

Is it true that LVP is in the running for godmother?

She wants to be.

Is Oliver still working for her?

- Yeah. Mm-hmm. - Yeah? Wow.

- Hey, Sutton. - Hi.

- Great to see you. - Nice to see you.

You know, Kathy's coming out later.

I need to find the leftover cards from last year's reunion

- that we didn't get to. - Oh.

- Oh, my God, that's funny. - Hi, Boz.

Hello.

- Great first season. - Thank you.

How are you feeling coming into your first reunion?

I feel great! I mean,

this is exciting. I've had a great time.

Said none of us ever. [laughs]

Ever! Ever.

Maybe it's because I know I'm right about everything.

[laughs]

- Hey, Dorit. Great to see you. - Hello, Andy.

Good to see you, as well.

Very cool seeing you in the pages of British Vogue.

- I know! - Was that everything you

- thought it would be? - Ever. Could ever wish for

- and more. - Yes, that's great.

Surreal moment.

Before we dive into everything, anyone have any intentions

they want to set for the day?

Well, my intention is just to leave here today

feeling better than when I arrived.

- Okay. - Because I have...

Yeah, I hope we can talk things through,

work them out, and at the end of the day,

we actually get a cast photo this reunion.

- Oh, yeah. - Yeah, last year we did not.

I apologize.

Okay. Well, as Dorit faced

mounting pressure from her shocking separation,

her entire life changed in an instant.

The PK loving, Chanel toting Dorit of the past

has left the building, and a cigarette smoking,

table lunging, force to be reckoned with

has taken her place. Let's see how that went.

As I stand here tonight welcoming our friends

and family, it's an opportunity for me to confess publicly.

[Dorit sniffles]

Oh, baby.

It's you, baby, and you alone. I love you, baby.

PK and I have agreed to separate.

[dark music plays]

"We have had our struggles over the past few years.

Continue to work through them."

They've made the mutual and difficult decision

to take some time apart.

Mm, mm, mm.

This is sad. It's always sad.

Terrible.

He's a full-blown alcoholic.

What happened?

I'll tell you what happened, I got sober.

One of my biggest issues,

if not the biggest, is the way PK would speak to me.

I used to call him "The Monster."

I always saw Dorit as wearing the pants in that relationship.

Is Dorit taking advantage of this moment

that she can paint a picture of who PK is

and he's not here to defend himself.

I think he's a very good father.

Am I correct?

Wrong.

Well...

Oh, shit.

- What is he doing? - Right.

[laughs]

I'm the girl that wants to know.

He just wrote this really angry, horrible note.

- What? - What's in it? What did it say?

Just finances, and "I'm gonna stop paying this

and you're gonna be liable for this."

Where are we going with this?

Honey, that's a divorce.

Get a fucking lawyer.

You got to get out.

I know this,

if I have to go to war, I will go to war.

Okay, well let's first talk about the cigarette

that launched a thousand memes.

Dorit, the viewers loved seeing you smoking.

- Oh, my God. - In the car.

That's wild. Really wild.

I would have never, ever, ever guessed that one.

Have you been a smoker for a while?

Oh, so we're gonna go there, huh?

Sure, why not?

I have been a social smoker.

And I think that especially the last few years.

- Right. - With what's been going on.

She turned into a stressed smoker.

- Stressing smoking. - Yeah. Yeah.

I became, yeah, stress smoker.

Can I ask you a question?

You never thought that would be seen.

Because when we have the car cams,

we think no one's going to use this.

You know, Kyle, to be honest with you...

I assume everything's gonna be seen.

Yeah, exactly.

I assume everything is gonna be seen.

I just was in a place where I didn't give a fuck.

Kyle, did PK send you a meme about it?

- No. - Oh, damn.

Wow. - TVisMyGod on Twitter said,

"Why does this season feel like it was an attempt

to keep Dorit's job?"

Kyle, do you think Dorit was coming in hot

to stay on the show?

I think in the beginning, and with me,

it did feel like that.

Because it was a Dorit that I did not know.

Even arguing.

And I realized that you were going through things

that I did feel like... It did feel like that to me.

You have relationships with people on the show,

you know executives and so on.

So you would know whether or not my job was on the line.

- Hmm-mm. - So,

how could you get to that conclusion

knowing that I was asked back

and it wasn't about me trying to keep my job?

That's what I said.

I stand by that.

Yeah.

We got a lot of comments about your decision

not to tell the children about the separation.

After Jagger saw or heard about your Instagram post,

were you regretting your decision

not to sit down with them?

No. No. Have not regretted my decision,

not for one second.

What do they know now?

You know, they are not asking the questions.

So, I think that when they see PK and I friendly,

and there's peace, and we're happy, they're okay.

Last year on the After Show, Sutton explained

that while her kids knew she and Christian were separated.

That you still elected not to tell the kids

that he hadn't filed for divorce for an entire year.

Is that hypocritical then?

- Is it? - Well, right,

I think learning from my own mistakes.

- You view that as a mistake? - Oh, yeah.

- Got it. - Yeah.

Why? What were the consequences?

Um, there, not so much consequences,

I think just being really honest with your children,

that's what I... that's how I am now

so that they trust me implicitly.

Is there a part of you that's not telling them

because you're hopeful that you'll get back together?

No, I promise you.

More recently,

I see less and less of a chance.

Is it something you would want?

Not as is.

Are you still in love with him?

Hmm.

Yeah.

You are?

He's my soul. He's my blood. He's my heart.

And I hate that because it makes it so much more difficult.

But I also know I need peace.

We asked PK if he wanted to appear today.

- I know. - He declined.

I know.

He sent a statement.

- Did he? - He did.

We asked PK if he wanted to appear today.

- I know. - He declined.

- I know. - He sent a statement.

- Did he? - He did.

[tense music plays]

He said, "I was invited to be part of the Reunion.

But I declined because I don't believe engaging with

Dorit in this forum would be constructive.

Dorit has made several mischaracterizations

about me, but the one I must address is the claim

that I am a bad father. That statement is both

heartbreaking and false. It is deeply hurtful to me

and more importantly, to our children,

who, despite Dorit's assertion,

will inevitably see and hear all of this

at a time not of our choosing.

Those closest to us know the truth.

Many have wanted to speak out but I have asked them not to

because the truth should never need a champion.

I refused to stoke a fire I did not ignite.

The Dorit I married would never have allowed this,

much less caused it.

That woman embodied kindness, integrity, and grace.

I can only hope this version of Dorit finds her way

back to the person she once was."

PK, he could have been here. He could have...

and I was supportive of it.

I had said, I don't want to be in a position

where it is, you know, only one side is being heard.

He keeps saying you've changed.

He refers very pointedly in that statement

to the old version of you, versus the new version of you.

- Yes. Yes. - What is the difference?

Listen, if I haven't changed in 14 years,

then something's wrong with me.

Okay. Part of your schtick

is the clothes and the glam and all that.

And you love it and it makes you happy.

Was that a point of contention with him?

Yeah. I think at some point, yes.

Again, but that's not the driving force.

You know, he loves all of this.

He loves when people come up and, and they ask for a picture.

Did your fame change him?

I don't know if change is the word.

- I don't think either one-- - Was he insecure about it?

Yes, I think he's a very insecure--

I don't know. Maybe.

Um, I guess it's hard for me sometimes to see things

in a certain way.

Maybe if I took a step back and looked at it.

But you know, you never want to think that way

about your husband.

Kyle, do you think fame has changed Dorit?

I think this season I saw a Dorit that I didn't know.

I mean, I think you perhaps

would even agree with that yourself.

- I mean... - Well, I mean, listen--

What's different?

[sighs]

I think everything seemed different. I mean, she seemed...

of course was angry, she seemed a lot more, um,

aggressive than usual.

I think we just saw a very different...

I don't think it was a different side to her

because I feel like I know her so well.

I felt like maybe circumstantial,

whatever it was, it was a different Dorit.

Dorit, you confided in Kyle about PK's temper.

You even went as far as calling him "The Monster."

Kyle, we got a lot of tweets

about your response to this admission.

Snoopaloop777 on Twitter said,

"Kyle saying she never saw that side of PK,

so maybe Dorit is just exaggerating to manipulate

her side of the story, feels similar to people

undermining domestic abuse victims."

It's definitely one of the things

that hurt me the most, Kyle.

Watching that.

You're supposed to know me way better than you know him.

Because you only have a relationship

where you have memes and jokes.

And you certainly don't know him as well.

- Correct. - So, you not having seen

that wouldn't be unusual.

I think I was coming from the fact...

the place that, um...

he wasn't there to defend himself. And some...

you know, you hear something like this, like,

he's an alcoholic, he's a bad dad.

Now we're hearing monster. I'm thinking all--

But I didn't, I didn't claim that he's an alcoholic.

He's the, he was very open about it.

You said on camera, though, a number of times.

Yes, and he had said it before that.

But not on camera.

He had said it publicly.

But my point, no he said he was...

stopped drinking, right?

That he didn't say, he didn't use the word "alcoholic."

That was the first time I had heard it when you said it.

He gave me permission to talk about his journey with sobriety.

- Period. I would never-- - Journey with sobriety

is very different than saying "alchoholic" though.

You don't feel like you were weaponizing it?

Absolutely not!

You feel like she was weaponizing it?

I just think-- Listen, I learned a lot about this

with my sister, season 1.

You are a liar, and an alchoholic.

Okay?

You're an alchoholic, yes, that's right.

- Oh, my God. - I've said it,

now everybody knows.

When I said that, it was years of going through stuff,

and it just came out of my mouth out of anger.

So, I'm thinking it's not a great thing to say, you know,

I already-- Because of, speaking from experience, like I said,

and we do say things when we're angry in the moment.

To me, it looked like you

were throwing your husband under the bus.

It was right out of the gate.

And you kept repeating it, over and over and over.

Well, it looked that way but I was...

it was a week and I was talking to different people.

But when you had said that in your confessional,

we were talking about my issues in our marriage

and the separation.

You diminished it, like,

"Oh, maybe she's just taking this opportunity

to paint him in a bad light."

You have to think about where I was in that moment,

I felt like you were exaggerating

a lot of things about me.

So, when I saw those comments about PK,

I was like, maybe she's exaggerating that.

What, what did I exaggerate about you?

I think we're going to get into that.

Well, just because you, you know,

it's at the top of your mind, I don't want you to forget.

I'm just curious what I exaggerated.

When you acted so upset at Sutton's,

you didn't even know I had sent PK a text yet.

I wasn't even talking about the text.

By the way, I also sent you a text

that was never acknowledged the whole season.

Kyle, you sent PK a text first, okay?

You only sent me a text because Erika told you,

you should send it. You said you drafted it.

Can we show the scene?

I just jumped off the Facetime with her and I asked her,

"Had anybody reached out?" And she said, "No."

Okay, I'm sending it then. I wrote it last night.

I don't like that. I do not like that no one

has reached out to her.

You and I weren't even speaking,

but I still sent the text

because I actually cared about you and felt bad

that you guys were separated.

But you chose to see

the worst in the situation instead of saying--

Kyle, you keep missing the whole text message thing.

Is this about you justifying the text message thing.

Did you reach out to Dorit?

- No, I didn't, I-- - Did you?

No, and I know why I didn't.

Okay, nobody else.

Instead of saying none of these women did,

- but Kyle did. - She did say that.

No, the whole season was...

never mentioned to them

that they never reached out to her.

It was all Kyle.

We were talking about the fact

that you sent him a text before me.

All right, let's move on.

How long has he been sober now?

[Dorit exhales]

It's not a topic we discuss.

As I've discovered very recently.

Okay.

So, I couldn't answer.

So...

He's drinking again and you don't want to say that.

I have no idea.

His exact words are,

"It's something I'm choosing not to discuss with you."

Okay.

Do you have concerns?

- Oh, huge. - Huge.

Big, and in fact, in that moment, I said,

"The way you're making me feel in this moment,

I don't think I can have a relationship with you.

Even a friendship." That was...

less than a week ago and I stand by it, Andy.

Is that my living room table?

- Stop it, like Erika! - Way too...

Hold on, this is the way my mind works.

Sutton, you've had a lot of opinions about

PK and Dorit's finances.

If they divorce,

what do you think the forensic accountants will find.

I don't know.

Those forensic accountants will get ya.

Are you worried for her?

Yeah.

But you actually have to care about someone,

have compassion, like someone, to be worried about them.

I, I just worry for all women. I think...

- [laughs] - Yeah, it's true.

Whose name is on the mortgage? Do you know that?

Do you really think I'm going to sit here

and answer any questions that you're asking me?

Like, it's about your knowledge.

I'm talking about you supporting women.

I'm talking about the information

and having your knowledge.

I'm talking about you having compassion for women.

- Listen... - It's not about whose name

is on the mortgage.

Well, you should know!

- No, you said you're worried. - You should know.

If you're worried for me.

But you know what surprised me?

When I got divorced? That I had two baseball teams.

You know, that surprised me.

Well, that's a nice surprise.

It's a nice surprise.

But you know, I had a lot of things that surprised me

and I think that communication in a marriage is so important.

I agree.

Is the house under foreclosure?

No.

Why have there been reports that it is?

Well, there were reports that it was in pre-foreclosure.

I had no idea about it.

He told me that they changed the rate.

He was trying to get a hold of somebody.

No one's returning his calls.

That's the way he does business.

Until they give him his call back,

he's not going to pay.

Hmm. Girl, that's how you lose a house.

He resolved it. Listen, they ended up calling.

That's what he said.

Dorit, what is the status of your marriage

and how often are you speaking?

As of a week ago, um,

I've chosen not to have much of a relationship with him.

Well, you have to co-parent.

Exactly.

How often is he seeing the kids?

He seems them on Saturday, Saturday night,

if he's in town.

Are you scared?

I'm not scared. I'm hurt, I'm sad.

I think I'm realizing more and more each day that...

what I really believed was going to be my future, may not be.

And I think that realization is really fucking hard.

Is your heart broken?

Oh, in a million pieces. A million pieces.

[emotional music]

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

Coming up.

If you think for one second that there was something

she could say to me.

Which would influence my opinion of you,

then that means you don't think very much of yourself.

When things get bad, I'm just gonna look over there

to give me some hapiness and joy.

I can't touch you 'cause I'm gonna get stuck to you.

I feel like I'm sitting...

You can touch me but I can't touch you.

I feel like I'm sitting next to Michael Jackson's glove.

[laughs]

I can't even make a phone call.

Five, four, three...

We are back with

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion.

This year, we met new housewife, Boz,

a high-powered executive who moved quickly up

the corporate ladder, and even faster

in her relationship with Keely.

But some people here thought she should add one more credit

to her uber impressive resume, Dorit's spokesperson.

Let's take a look.

Thanks, Garcelle.

[confident music plays]

[upbeat pop music]

Here we come! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey!

Boz is the real deal.

She has been an executive

with Netflix, Uber, Apple.

Thrilled to meet you, boss.

- Boz. - She's saying the boss.

- Yes. - I'll take it. I'll take that.

What is this?

I told you I, I got this, okay?

Keely's my man. We've been dating for several months.

We are moving faster than the speed of light.

So, what am I looking at?

- Okay, so this is your womb. - Yes, okay.

That's the uterus and that's the right ovary.

And this dark circle is an egg house.

Oh!

Keely and I have talked about having a baby,

but we've actually never said the words "I love you"

to each other. [gasps]

- Wait, a minute, that's... - What?!

Dorit is an embryo up your coochie.

Girl. So weird.

It seems to me, when Dorit and Boz are together,

it's just them and then there's us.

Why is everybody over there?

Because Sutton, that's what Sutton does.

To congregate here at the front,

it's like, Dorit is hosting a party.

Stop being Dorit's spokesperson!

Again, Boz is Team Dorit without knowing any back story.

It just seeps Dorit talking badly about us.

Fucking grow up.

- Mm-hmm! - All right.

You strike me as the type of person who does her homework,

doesn't come in unprepared.

Right.

Did you watch the show beforehand

or did you come in sight unseen?

Yeah, I watched the show beforehand.

What was the difference between watching it and being on it?

Oh, there was a big difference.

I mean, watching it,

you don't know the intricacies, you know.

And I have to be totally honest

that I thought that some of the relationships

may be played up. Maybe the, you know, emotion,

or anger, or sad feelings, whatever were,

perhaps, exaggerated.

And?

Um... but uh, they're very real.

The amount of time that we spend together is really intense.

You know, and so you are automatically going to feel

strongly about somebody's life,

just because you're talking about it all of the time.

- Right. - Boz, I was so sad to hear

that you lost your house in Malibu in the fires.

Thank you. Um, I don't know what to say.

It's still hard to articulate.

I think after all the news headlines go away

and the sensationalism,

you're just left with the ashes of a house

and trying to figure out how to get the debris off of the land,

and fighting insurance companies.

And trying to figure out

whether or not you're going to rebuild.

What did it mean to you, or signify to you?

Oh, gosh.

Oh, my God, 25 years of hard work.

Yeah, it meant a lot. I mean, look,

no one has ever given me anything.

And so, losing the house in this fashion,

is beyond devastating.

Yeah, it's terrible.

I'm so sorry.

Thank you, Andy.

All right, moving on to your love life.

Boz, what's the latest with you and Keely?

Oh, well, we're great. I mean, you know, it's so funny.

I've, I've also been very shocked

by the response to our relationship.

What response have you gotten to your relationship?

Oh, it's been such a mixed bag, you know.

Some people think that there's a bunch of red flags.

Some people think it's great.

Some people question the fact that, at that time,

we hadn't said we loved each other yet.

Have you said you love each other?

Yes, Lord have mercy.

Thank God, I was gonna have to say--

All the time. All time.

- Exactly. - Thank God.

That went right into the group text.

Was that a red flag to any of you?

Yes! You saw me sitting across. I was like...

Wait a second, we're talking kids,

but I... the words "I love you."

We can't procreate before we like our, profess our love.

I wouldn't say it was a red flag,

but I was taken aback, oh.

Sutton, you told Boz in Malibu you found it suspicious

that Keely had never been married or had children before.

We've been dating for almost seven months.

He has children?

He's never, no children, never married.

Oh! You kinda want to... flag it.

Oh, my God.

Do you stand by that?

Well, you know, me and dating.

[scoffs] Never goes that well.

Um, you know, men that...

it just makes me so nervous when men haven't been married

and they're like, approaching 50 'cause I'm like,

do you have commitment issues?

That was all I meant by that.

I've never been married.

Well, and look at ya.

Oh, damn! [laughter]

No, but do you want to be married?

I have commitment issues.

Oh, Lord.

There's been a lot of talk about your fertility journey.

Yeah.

Olivia from St. Louis said, "I'm confused.

Boz and Keely haven't even said I love you yet,

but she's willing to literally risk her life

to get pregnant again?"

What is the latest update? Are you...

uh... retrieving eggs?

Yes, I'm in the process of that right now.

That's great.

Here's a other thing about this,

which is, it's, um...

it has been a little frustrating

to me to hear other people's opinions about my hopes

and dreams and desires.

You know, where I'm just like how dare you

poo-poo my dream?

You know, because the transparent thing

about it all is that I have been terrified to say

I want another kid.

For 16 years, because of what I went through.

So, considering this has been a big deal for me

and something that I feel very vulnerable about,

you know? And that's between me and God and Keely

and we got to figure that out.

Turning to what many found

to be kind of an unlikely friendship.

You could say Boz and buddies.

What drew you two together?

Um, I think just time and space and opportunity.

I do have to say, though, that I really appreciated

when I met with Garcelle before we started filming,

and I asked her, I was trying to get the tea,

you know, on everybody.

And she said she wouldn't share

because she said that she wanted my relationships

- to be my relationships. - I did.

Which I respected, 'cause I was like,

"Girl, tell me all the things I wanna know about."

You know what I mean? [all laugh]

And she wouldn't share it. And so, I respected that.

So, when I came to Sutton's party,

I think I was inspired by Garcelle's directive

- to be open to everyone. - Yeah.

And I think just basically what happened is that Dorit

was open as well.

Kyle said, "Dorit is so all over Boz's ass,

it's actually gross." Garcelle said,

"Dorit was an embryo up Boz's coochie."

- Coochie. - Hmm!

Dorit, how did you feel when you heard those comments?

Oh. It... it was a little pathetic.

[scoffs]

Boz said on the After Show

that Sutton and Garcelle were jealous.

Perhaps some jealousy, you know,

that I would find any interest in Dorit,

given that perhaps I'm not finding

as much interest in them.

Absolutely not.

The only time I really had a problem with it

was when we were in Oceanside

and you guys were talking

and we were left out of it for like, an hour.

Everybody has different timing

on how they deal with different things.

Could it be that he's coming to some realizations?

Definitely could be.

Are we not included in this conversation?

I don't know what's going on over there.

Can I tell you, if you run the tape

for the past five years,

everybody had an issue with us being friends.

So, it's not like crazy.

You're fake, you're fake, you're fake.

- Diana, that's kinda shitty. - Are you her bodyguard?

I'm glad you have Sheree because I think Sutton

- is a liability for you. - Really?

If people had an issue with you two being friends

then wouldn't you say well, you know what,

I'm not going to engage in that.

I didn't go on and on about it, like oh, my god,

how are they friends? Oh, my God,

how are they getting along? What do they have in common?

But there were many times you did that.

Constantly.

I didn't do all that. That was done to us.

Oh shit.

Look, you're stuck together.

Exactly, you're even stuck together.

I know, I'm trying to keep my hands to myself.

- Right there, example. - In literal and figurative.

- There you go. - Stuck together.

But anyways, it... no.

But to be completely honest,

if I said stuff, I don't...

I'm glad you have a friend in Boz.

I don't have a problem with that.

You're happy for Dorit that she has a friend?

Yes!

This is the thing that rubbed me the wrong way

about the entire conversation, which was that there was

absolutely a belief that I was being manipulated.

- I knew you didn't like that. - That annoyed me to no end.

- And you could tell that. - I did not think that.

But I find that to be absolutely ridiculous,

because how?

I did not think she was being manipulated.

I'm like how would I be manipulated?

And also, I was like, that's insulting to me.

I was, like, if you think for one second

that there was something she could say to me.

Which would influence my opinion of you.

Then that means you don't think very much of yourself.

That's what I interpreted.

Boz, at Kathy's house, you expressed that Kyle

had not been welcoming and that she had been a bit cold.

Yeah.

Um, Kyle kind of hit back at this in the press

with the story about visiting your room in Ocean Side,

so what's the real story?

Girl, you did not come into my room at Ocean Side.

Okay. You don't want to do this.

- Yes! You knocked on the door-- - Boz...

I told you we were gonna work out.

No, no, no, I'm talking about-- You must--

You're forgetting what we're talking about.

I genuinely like you,

and I really was excited when you joined the show

and I got to know you in the little bits that I did,

because I feel like I'm a good judge of character.

And I instantly took a liking to you.

I went to Sally Ann, sorry Sally,

to bring you into this and I said,

"Can you take me to Boz's room?"

Sally Ann's one of the producers.

Sally Ann is one of our producers, and I said,

and I said, "I just think you're amazing,

I get such a great vibe from you,"

I said, "You are so open and you're funny and you're smart."

And by the way, I can take a while to warm up with people,

it's just my nature.

I don't recall that at all, actually.

Oh, my gosh.

And then also, you know when you had your surgery,

I made a point to say, can I go to Boz's house,

- Right. - And we had a really,

what I thought, for someone that's newer in my life,

a really nice conversation.

A deeper than usual conversation that I would have

especially with cameras.

It was also about Dorit. Like, we were...

No, I talked about Mo and...

Yes, yes, but a majority of it, a majority of that conversation

was about Dorit.

You also told me later that you don't remember

our conversation at your house that much

because you were on medication.

Well, yes, I took some medication.

The conversations were not memorable, Kyle!

- That's what it is. - What did you say?

I said the conversations were not memorable.

Oh, well!

And I'm gonna leave it there and take a break,

and we'll be back with more after this.

Coming up.

Do you know something?

Well, I wish you were more interesting, I guess.

Ooh, damn!

Welcome back to

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion.

Well, when Garcelle isn't busy calling the shots on set

or at home, she's calling it like she sees it,

and no one is safe.

Not even her bestie, Sutton. Watch.

If you told me when I was a little girl

that I would grow up to have the life that I have.

Wow, look at that house.

There's no way I would believe you.

You are a beacon. Look what

you've done with your life.

Way to go, Garcelle. Kind of made me cry.

I'm having a hard time figuring out

what's next for me as a woman.

I so get that.

Sutton has been wanting Kyle and I to be close for so long.

I would love to go deeper with you

in terms of like, our friendship.

I appreciate that so much.

But yet, how am I supposed to be friends with Kyle

if she's not going to open up about everything.

We tiptoe around Morgan.

We don't know what that situation is.

There is no situation there.

One day maybe I'll have a great story to share with you guys.

I hope you do.

You're just super protective.

She's not always been the most amazing friend to you.

I'm not protecting her.

But you, for some reason, your loyalty is beyond.

I'm not, I'm not protecting her. There is no loyalty.

Sutton will always give Kyle a pass.

Got it, good night.

Almighty Kyle. I can't.

[door slams]

[dramatic music peaks]

- Okay. - Okay.

There's a lot to unpack there.

- Let's do it. - On Entertainment Tonight,

Erika said she wanted to see Sutton and Garcelle open up

more about their real lives.

We want the juicy scoop, like what's happening in--

Well, like, what? I wish there was.

I understand. Like, that's what we're getting at.

I'm not saying that she's not telling us what's happening.

No, because I don't know what I would...

what else I would show. I mean--

Honestly, I work my ass off.

I'm with my children as much as I can.

She said she wants to know who you're dating.

You getting no [clicks tongue].

- No, not really. - Zero?

Girl, we gotta work on this.

- I know! - Not really.

Yeah, oh did she say not really?

There was one guy like I went on two dates with and--

And no nothing, huh?

[chuckles]

What more do you want to see?

Yeah, what more do you want?

Like, there's nothing that I'm not showing.

Honestly. Do you know something?

No, I wish you were more interesting, I guess.

- Ooh, damn! - What?

Well, that's a shitty thing to say, Erika.

- I don't know. - That's a shitty thing to say.

Well, I think you kinda led me there.

That's a shitty thing to say. When when I thought

we were in a better place.

- We are. - No, we're not

if you say something like that.

I think also too, like our experience,

my experience, Kyle and Dorit's, going through, like,

these really ugly, public divorces.

And coming apart.

My divorce happened before I came on the show

but yet I was very open about it.

My issue is that you have said Kyle's not showing us her life.

I've been showing so much of my life for so long.

I have shown for 14 years my relationships with my family,

falling out to my family, problems in my marriage.

Going through the separation has been the hardest thing

I've ever gone through.

And then you, you've said many times,

"Well, why hasn't Kyle shown us what's really going on?"

And you just said, "What more do you want me to tell you, Erika?"

What more can I show in my life?

Yeah, that's how we feel. I mean, it's just,

it's been so open and so destroyed.

Literally tuning the cameras out and not even thinking about

the cameras being there and just saying exactly what I'm feeling.

Last year, Morgan was part of the show, we met her.

How did you guys met?

- She stalked me. - I did. I stalked her.

Here you go, I don't want that kind either.

And all of a sudden this year, it was, like,

you weren't going to bring her up.

But then, there's pictures in the press,

there's this in the press.

And we're not, we're not allowed...

we're just supposed to pretend that that's not happening?

Is that reality?

No, that's not. Morgan did not sign up for this show.

She does not want to be part of it.

She's not a part of the cast.

She didn't sign up for the show this season,

but she was on before.

She came on as a favor to me.

What ensued after that created a lot of anxiety for her.

And she didn't ask for this life.

So, I'm trying to be respectful of somebody

who didn't sign up for it, you know.

Your son didn't want to be a part of the show this season.

I respect that. I was actually very hurt by you this season.

- I was hurt by you as well. - Because...

you were hurt by me this season?

Yes, and you even apologized to me.

Which part?

When you called me an asshole on the After Show.

No, I'm not talking about... that was after.

I called you that because of your behavior.

I was very hurt by you by what I saw on the show.

I just felt like we would be hypocrites.

Let me just say me.

If all this stuff is happening out

there and we don't address it, we're going to look like

why are we not addressing this?

So, I also had conversations with you privately

explaining everything to you.

And I never repeated anything you told me.

No, but I explained to you why.

- I went to you and I said-- - Okay, why did you...

why did you come to me off camera and, and talk to me?

[tense music plays]

Why did you come to me off camera and talk to me?

[tense music plays]

Because I thought that you're my friend.

And what did you say when she walked away after

she told us what she told us off camera?

I think that Kyle wants to protect Morgan.

That's not what you said.

You said that was a chess move.

- Hmm. - Mm-hmm.

The thing is, with both of you

the two of you together are mean girls.

- [scoffs] - Hang on.

Mean girls. Like, that's really shocking to hear that, Sutton.

How about the fact that when we were in Chuck E. Cheese

we laughed about it and I was being completely genuine.

Be whoever you want to be.

Yeah.

If you want to be a lesbian, be a lesbian.

[laughs]

And then you went to...

on the After Show and you were, like,

"She's a fucking asshole."

What was really going through my head was

"You're being an asshole right now."

You said that intentionally.

I didn't... I did not say that intentionally.

- The lesbian comment? - Yeah. I mean--

No, no. Be who you want to be.

Stop worrying about what other people think.

That's where I was going.

Is that what you think she's doing?

Yes! I think it's hard.

You don't think that, first of all,

it was said to embarrass me?

No!

- Yes. - No.

We laughed about it that night.

And I said to you,

"I don't think you're an asshole

but that was an asshole move."

Okay, you have your opinion. It's all good.

I mean, you repeatedly said, you got mad at Sutton for not

jumping on the bandwagon when you came after me.

Because she didn't have my back. That's between me and Sutton.

But that's between me and Sutton.

Didn't have your back to come after me!

No! Didn't have my back to support me,

not come after you.

To support you in coming after me!

Yeah, to come after me and to, to make me uncomfortable,

to put me on the spot, to create an issue with me

that you knew that I have...

And I respected that.

The whole season, I respected that.

I... right out of the gate. And I appreciate that.

No, Sutton, no. Come on.

I most certainly did.

- Come on, no you did not. - I respected her--

- No, you did not. - Yes, her wishes. I did.

Her wishes were what?

She didn't want to talk about Morgan.

She didn't want to bring that up.

And so, and I didn't.

You know, if Morgan had not been on the show prior,

then I think it would have been okay if she says you know what,

that part of my life is off, is off the table.

That's not her place. She didn't sign the contract

to be here. I did.

Garcelle, you were extra frustrated that Sutton

didn't back you up.

Do you think that Sutton is obsessed with getting

Kyle's approval?

I think Sutton's relationship with Kyle

is really important to her.

Garcelle, do you feel like you, she has to back you up

all the time? Like, it's a two thing?

But you can have independent questions, right?

Like, she doesn't need to come in and support you.

No, but I do that for her and she...

I don't need to do it either. It's called friendship.

- Okay. - But that's the thing.

On the boat when Erika and Sutton got into this argument,

you were silent, Jennifer Tilly was silent.

I was silent because I knew if I said one word

you'd be like, oh, my God, she's coming for her.

She's, she's sticking up for Sutton.

You were silent. Jennifer Tilly was silent.

- Yeah, that was on purpose. - The entire boat was silent.

And then you look at me and you say to me,

"She expected more loyalty from you, Kyle!"

And I'm like me? This is a joke!

Everyone wants to fucking come for my ass!

Because you're important to her.

That's not my fucking problem! I mean, you are

important to her, too. So is Jennifer Tilly.

So, in my mind, I'm like, my God,

everyone is coming for my ass. Like, how...

I mean, what did I do? What did I do to deserve that?

- It hurt me. - I'm sorry about that.

I don't know, it's like, who do you trust?

You know, I know what it's... I know that feeling.

It's not nice.

I think that's why I gravitated

so much towards Boz because she was so real

I didn't feel I had to question it, ever.

Good.

Dorit, how did it feel seeing what Garcelle said about

someone orchestrating the break-in?

It came up again.

I really don't understand what the obsession is about

one of the most traumatic things in my life.

Something that I suffered, terribly,

for two and a half years.

This was my feeling. This is the last time

I'm going to talk about it. I felt like it was a setup.

Hallelujah! Because you've not stopped talking about it

since it happened, Garcelle.

Not stopped talking about? I've talked about it twice.

- You, you feel it was a setup? - Yeah, I do.

I feel how I feel. What am I supposed to do?

It's based on nothing.

- No, it's based on me feel-- Nothing.

- It's just my instincts. Okay? - Right, your instinct.

Okay.

There is no evidence, or fact, or any reason whatsoever--

That I'm wrong.

...for you to draw to that conclusion.

Yet, you can say it so casually,

not considering once how that might make me,

my husband, our family feel whatsoever

about something as traumatic as that Su--, uh, Garcelle.

[tense music plays]

There is no evidence, or fact, or any reason whatsoever--

That I'm wrong.

...for you to draw to that conclusion.

Yet, you can say it so casually.

I am sorry if it hurts you. This is how I feel.

Wow.

I think it's that the guy gave you back the cell phone,

- if I recall. - Oh yeah. And she was like,

"I don't put the alarm on at night

because the kids run around."

I think most people's alarm,

you can put the alarm be in the home.

You think that I or my husband would orchestrate--

I didn't see you or your husband.

I didn't say you or your husband.

Do not put that in my mouth.

I didn't say you or your husband, I just felt like--

You did. You intimated that it was PK.

- No, I did not! - Who else would it be?

I did not! I don't know who else it could be.

I just think that it--

You intimated in that scene that it was PK.

No, I did not! No, I did not!

No, I did not. Roll the tape 'cause I know...

- roll the tape. I did not. - You did not intimate?

I said, "I don't think Dorit knew anything about it."

You know, when I said last year about her jewelry

- and the robbery. - Yeah.

I don't think Dorit had anything to do with that.

Mm-mm.

But I think someone did.

I am done talking about it.

This is how I feel.

So, that's fine, but I'm gonna, I'm going to at least

tell you how I feel about what you feel.

My husband, he must be a sociopath

and not give a shit about his family whatsoever.

That he would send men into our home at night

with my children sleeping in the house.

And he would put me through that trauma.

Was the only one who felt that way?

You tell me who else?

Your four other people from Twitter?

Oh, my God.

Okay.

You know, I think it's a very difficult thing

to say without any proof at all.

And so, saying that has enormous repercussions.

I think it's dangerous of you to say.

- Okay. - Yes, careless.

I think it is actually really, really, really terrible.

Okay. I apologize.

Nothing. Zero. And I mean zero.

All right, well I was gonna ask where the two of you stand today

but I think you took a few steps forward this season.

And you may have taken a couple back.

We'll see where this goes.

And we are taking lunch.

- Oh, thank God. - Excuse me.

Can I go home?

I thought Sutton was gonna be in the hot seat.

I didn't realize I was gonna be in the hot seat.

Jesus Christ.

I can't have an opinion. I can't say how I feel.

I just have to go along just to go along.

Everybody can go fuck themselves. I don't care.

We'll turn it off.

I know, well that's why before I hope see...

oh, God!

Brrr!

[knock on door]

Hello.

Okay.

Oh gosh.

- How are you feeling? - Not great.

What's up?

I am damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't.

I can say how I feel, I can't say how I feel.

I have to tiptoe around everybody.

- Yeah. - I'm not doing it.

I'm not doing it.

Uh, I was a little blindsided...

I felt a little thrown under the bus.

Sorry.

I mean, it's okay.

But it--

It's about to get real bad for me.

- This Garcelle situation. - Oof.

we're not talking about something casual.

- We're talking about a crime. - I know.

You can't say those things without repercussions.

- Do you not understand that? - Thank you! Thank you.

I'm the bad guy here.

Oh no, I think we are.

Yeah, we're mean girls, apparently.

- I, I mean... - Yeah.

Which I don't understand that.

I'm not taking that on.

You can say anything you want. I'm not taking it

'cause I know who I am.

When she was like, "Be more interesting."

Fuck you, Erika, fuck you!

Fuck you.

What, because I'm not going through a divorce?

Because I'm not... like I didn't have, you know...

criminal activity?

That I work, that I'm self-made?

I don't have a rich husband.

I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth?

That's not interesting?

She doesn't have a rich husband either.

Fuck her!

[tense music peaks]

Next week, the Reunion continues.

One of our most decorated friends. Hi, Jennifer Tilly.

You make it sound like I'm covered with medals of valor.

- Kathy Hilton. - Hi, everybody.

Kath, you're not going to chew that gum right now.

I'm just gonna suck on it for a second.

I've never been accused of being a liar.

Well, there were lies, too.

You don't exactly live like the Queen of Sheba.

You live on a fucking main road.

You went back to your room and called PK?

Yeah.

Can you wrap your head around

how fucked up that is?