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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:36,384 --> 00:00:40,301 7 Ekim 2023 saat 6:29 İSRAİL 2 00:00:40,475 --> 00:00:42,781 NEWSCASTER: Right now a massive barrage of rockets 3 00:00:42,955 --> 00:00:44,783 coming off of the Gaza Strip. 4 00:00:46,263 --> 00:00:47,482 NEWSCASTER 2: The terrorist group Hamas 5 00:00:47,656 --> 00:00:49,179 launched an unprecedented 6 00:00:49,353 --> 00:00:52,443 air, ground and even sea assault on Israeli soil. 7 00:00:55,620 --> 00:00:57,535 NEWSCASTER 3: Palestinian gunmen are inside 8 00:00:57,709 --> 00:01:00,277 Israeli cities and towns. 9 00:01:00,451 --> 00:01:02,758 NEWSCASTER 4: There are reports that civilians 10 00:01:02,932 --> 00:01:04,716 were barricaded in their homes 11 00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:06,849 with Hamas gunmen going door to door in one Israeli village. 12 00:01:07,023 --> 00:01:08,459 NEWSCASTER 5: The single worst incident 13 00:01:08,633 --> 00:01:11,027 of this entire attack was at a party 14 00:01:11,201 --> 00:01:13,812 just a couple of miles away from the Gaza border. 15 00:01:17,773 --> 00:01:19,427 NEWSCASTER 6: They have taken Israelis hostage 16 00:01:19,601 --> 00:01:22,299 back inside of Gaza. 17 00:01:25,563 --> 00:01:27,739 NEWSCASTER 7: Israelis woke up today to find 18 00:01:27,913 --> 00:01:29,785 their worst nightmares had come true. 19 00:01:51,633 --> 00:01:57,291 IRIT LAHAV: 6:30 a.m. we had missile alert. 20 00:01:57,987 --> 00:02:00,294 I quickly jumped out of bed. We have ten seconds. 21 00:02:00,468 --> 00:02:02,165 Ran to the safe room, 22 00:02:02,339 --> 00:02:03,862 closed the door. 23 00:02:05,516 --> 00:02:07,127 A minute later, 24 00:02:07,301 --> 00:02:09,085 my daughter says, "I hear shooting." 25 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:11,479 I said, "No. Come on, you're imagining." 26 00:02:11,653 --> 00:02:13,220 Another minute later, 27 00:02:13,394 --> 00:02:15,570 my next-door neighbor wrote 28 00:02:15,744 --> 00:02:18,007 in the kibbutz's messaging system, 29 00:02:18,181 --> 00:02:20,662 "Somebody is shooting at our house." 30 00:02:23,926 --> 00:02:26,276 SHAI DAVIDAI: It's Friday night here. 31 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:28,365 My wife and I are about to go to bed. 32 00:02:28,539 --> 00:02:30,454 We just look at our phone for a second 33 00:02:30,628 --> 00:02:32,717 and we see a picture that we get 34 00:02:32,891 --> 00:02:34,980 from my sister-in-law, her one-year-old boy, 35 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:36,939 kind of like standing upright, 36 00:02:37,113 --> 00:02:40,508 looking at the TV and we see missiles shot at Israel. 37 00:02:42,031 --> 00:02:46,427 NOA TISHBY: It was 8:30 p.m. in the West Coast 38 00:02:46,601 --> 00:02:50,039 and suddenly my phone rings and it's my sister from Israel. 39 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:51,954 I had a-a hunch that something is wrong. 40 00:02:52,128 --> 00:02:54,565 I picked up the phone and she is there 41 00:02:54,739 --> 00:02:57,394 and there are sirens in the background and explosions. 42 00:02:57,568 --> 00:03:00,223 Nobody is reporting in mainstream media. 43 00:03:00,397 --> 00:03:05,141 So I have the Israeli news on and I'm learning 44 00:03:05,315 --> 00:03:07,883 what's unfolding as-as it's happening 45 00:03:08,057 --> 00:03:13,193 and I go on Live on Instagram. 46 00:03:13,367 --> 00:03:15,978 The Hamas terrorists have started launching rockets 47 00:03:16,152 --> 00:03:20,591 into Israel in order to mask a land infiltration. 48 00:03:20,765 --> 00:03:22,811 They have entered Israel on trucks 49 00:03:22,985 --> 00:03:26,423 and on air glides, armed, 50 00:03:26,597 --> 00:03:28,295 and are currently 51 00:03:28,469 --> 00:03:30,949 roaming the streets all over the south of Israel, 52 00:03:31,123 --> 00:03:34,039 looking for Jews to slaughter. 53 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:40,350 DAVIDAI: Those first images of Hamas terrorists 54 00:03:40,524 --> 00:03:44,180 driving Toyotas and shooting indiscriminately into houses. 55 00:03:44,354 --> 00:03:48,010 It's just-- we realized something big is happening. 56 00:03:48,706 --> 00:03:51,492 LAHAV: Another neighbor sent us a message saying 57 00:03:51,666 --> 00:03:55,060 that he sees militant people fully armed. 58 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:59,195 "Stay in your safe rooms and lock your doors." 59 00:03:59,369 --> 00:04:03,634 And I knew that these doors cannot be locked. 60 00:04:03,808 --> 00:04:07,072 Those was endless shooting, automatic weapon. 61 00:04:11,294 --> 00:04:14,558 We realized that they are going from 62 00:04:14,732 --> 00:04:16,560 door to door, door to door, 63 00:04:16,734 --> 00:04:19,302 and soon enough they will come to our house. 64 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:26,527 Luckily, my brother, who's an engineer, 65 00:04:26,701 --> 00:04:28,224 he sent me a picture of how 66 00:04:28,398 --> 00:04:29,878 he locked his door with two broomsticks. 67 00:04:30,052 --> 00:04:32,446 I grabbed an oar, 68 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:34,578 took apart my vacuum cleaner. 69 00:04:34,752 --> 00:04:37,755 I used the metal hose of the Dyson vacuum cleaner, 70 00:04:37,929 --> 00:04:42,151 took a leather cord because I wanted it to be very strong, 71 00:04:42,325 --> 00:04:44,022 and I tied them to the door handle 72 00:04:44,196 --> 00:04:46,024 and then made an "X." 73 00:04:47,939 --> 00:04:51,334 Orna Pauker was writing: 74 00:04:51,508 --> 00:04:53,336 "My husband was shot. 75 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:54,859 He's bleeding." 76 00:04:55,033 --> 00:04:57,514 Nir Adar: "They're in my house." 77 00:04:57,688 --> 00:05:00,735 Michal Itzik: "They're burning my house." 78 00:05:00,909 --> 00:05:04,652 Efrat Katz: "They're walking around with knives. 79 00:05:04,826 --> 00:05:06,654 They took Gadi." 80 00:05:07,568 --> 00:05:09,221 Avner Goren: 81 00:05:14,662 --> 00:05:16,098 "They're in my house." 82 00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:32,288 He was shot. 83 00:05:32,462 --> 00:05:34,116 In his bed. 84 00:05:37,902 --> 00:05:40,078 And his dog, too. 85 00:05:40,252 --> 00:05:42,516 And his wife was in the baby room 86 00:05:42,690 --> 00:05:44,300 and she was shot there. 87 00:05:50,393 --> 00:05:52,830 At around 10:30, 88 00:05:53,004 --> 00:05:55,224 we were still hoping that they would not come 89 00:05:55,398 --> 00:05:56,660 to our safe room's door, 90 00:05:56,834 --> 00:05:58,923 but eventually they did. 91 00:06:00,055 --> 00:06:02,144 We thought this was our end. 92 00:06:08,542 --> 00:06:12,546 TESSA VEKSLER: I woke up and my two housemates 93 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,374 were just staring at me. 94 00:06:14,548 --> 00:06:16,680 They said, "Tessa, there's a war in Israel." 95 00:06:16,854 --> 00:06:19,770 And my response was, "There's always a war in Israel." 96 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:23,165 And they looked at me and they said, "This one's different." 97 00:06:23,861 --> 00:06:26,603 My phone flooded with all these horrific images 98 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:28,300 and videos coming out. 99 00:06:34,524 --> 00:06:38,485 LAHAV: 6:00, we had not been able to drink 100 00:06:38,659 --> 00:06:40,617 or eat for 12 hours. 101 00:06:40,791 --> 00:06:43,446 We heard Hebrew. 102 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:45,970 Somebody was saying, "I'm from the Army. 103 00:06:46,144 --> 00:06:48,016 I came to rescue you." 104 00:06:48,190 --> 00:06:50,235 And then he opened the door wide. 105 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:53,848 We saw everything broken in the house. 106 00:06:57,939 --> 00:07:00,376 He walked us to a safer area 107 00:07:00,550 --> 00:07:03,379 where they gathered all the people from the kibbutz. 108 00:07:05,555 --> 00:07:10,255 And we go, "What? Where is everybody? Where is everybody?" 109 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:13,868 And we realized that so many people are missing. 110 00:07:14,042 --> 00:07:15,260 NEWSCASTER: The Israeli military 111 00:07:15,435 --> 00:07:17,349 has declared a state of war alert 112 00:07:17,524 --> 00:07:20,178 and is mobilizing its forces in response 113 00:07:20,352 --> 00:07:22,877 to an unprecedented attack today. 114 00:07:23,051 --> 00:07:25,793 Israeli forces are now going house to house 115 00:07:25,967 --> 00:07:28,839 recovering bodies of... of men, 116 00:07:29,013 --> 00:07:31,581 of-of women, and of children. 117 00:07:31,755 --> 00:07:35,324 Too many to count, too many so far to give name to, 118 00:07:35,498 --> 00:07:38,588 that they say one word describes what happened here, 119 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:40,285 and that is a "massacre." 120 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:42,505 ... 121 00:07:42,679 --> 00:07:45,203 LIAD DIAMOND: The second day of the war, 122 00:07:45,377 --> 00:07:49,599 we got nearly 200 journalists from all over the world 123 00:07:49,773 --> 00:07:52,472 and we just opened the gate. 124 00:07:52,646 --> 00:07:54,996 Wars today are not only in battlefields 125 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:57,868 but also on different media outlets, 126 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:01,002 on the Internet. 127 00:08:01,176 --> 00:08:04,614 It's a very challenging war, 128 00:08:04,788 --> 00:08:06,616 the war of the narrative 129 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:09,010 and sometimes even the war over truth. 130 00:08:18,672 --> 00:08:20,282 ... 131 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:29,421 ... 132 00:08:29,596 --> 00:08:32,424 MANDANA DAYANI: When you actually see 133 00:08:32,599 --> 00:08:36,298 the level of devastation, 134 00:08:36,472 --> 00:08:37,952 I don't know how to unsee it. 135 00:08:39,736 --> 00:08:42,609 It was meant to cause 136 00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:44,349 the maximum amount of fear 137 00:08:44,524 --> 00:08:47,614 and suffering in a population of people 138 00:08:47,788 --> 00:08:49,441 who have inherited some 139 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:52,270 of the worst generational trauma you can imagine. 140 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:56,579 TISHBY: It's all stories that we've heard 141 00:08:56,753 --> 00:08:59,103 and grew up on, 142 00:08:59,277 --> 00:09:01,149 except this time around they were also 143 00:09:01,323 --> 00:09:03,325 videotaped. 144 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:07,111 TAL-OR COHEN: This is not a terrorist attack 145 00:09:07,285 --> 00:09:10,158 that happened in one place or period of time. 146 00:09:10,332 --> 00:09:12,943 It happened multiple times on your most intimate platforms 147 00:09:13,117 --> 00:09:15,816 that you're literally seeing before you go to bed. 148 00:09:15,990 --> 00:09:20,168 And I think that that's why this content has penetrated 149 00:09:20,342 --> 00:09:22,823 the psyche of probably every Jewish person who 150 00:09:22,997 --> 00:09:25,652 felt that this was a genocidal attack 151 00:09:25,826 --> 00:09:28,132 intended for them. 152 00:09:50,894 --> 00:09:53,244 DEMONSTRATOR: Free, free Palestine! 153 00:09:53,418 --> 00:09:58,423 Less than 24 hours ago on the land, from the sea, 154 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:00,469 and from the air, the people of the Gaza Strip... 155 00:10:02,863 --> 00:10:04,995 DAN SENOR: It was October 8th. 156 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:07,258 There were still Hamas terrorists in communities 157 00:10:07,432 --> 00:10:09,304 in Southern Israel. 158 00:10:09,478 --> 00:10:10,958 There was still fighting going on. 159 00:10:11,132 --> 00:10:12,437 DEMONSTRATORS: Free, free Palestine! 160 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:14,048 Israel was still counting 161 00:10:14,222 --> 00:10:18,226 the numbers of the dead and the mutilated 162 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,750 and the raped and the kidnapped, 163 00:10:20,924 --> 00:10:24,711 and there's a protest against Israel in Times Square. 164 00:10:24,885 --> 00:10:26,800 Fuck Israel! Fuck Israel! 165 00:10:26,974 --> 00:10:30,804 SENOR: Rather than the outrage being directed against those 166 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:33,284 slaughtering the Jews, the outrage was being directed 167 00:10:33,458 --> 00:10:37,332 at the Jews for objecting to being slaughtered. 168 00:10:39,508 --> 00:10:43,251 LORENZO VIDINO: We were seeing protests glorifying the actions 169 00:10:43,425 --> 00:10:47,516 of the resistance, which is sort of code word for Hamas. 170 00:10:47,690 --> 00:10:49,692 How many dead? How many dead? 171 00:10:49,866 --> 00:10:52,869 VIDINO: So it became apparent, I would say from the get-go 172 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:55,655 that there was a core 173 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:58,745 of individuals nationwide 174 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:00,964 that were pushing a pro-Hamas 175 00:11:01,138 --> 00:11:02,574 narrative. 176 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:04,141 DEBRA MESSING: I just thought 177 00:11:04,315 --> 00:11:06,187 the entire world turned upside down 178 00:11:06,361 --> 00:11:09,886 and I immediately felt like, 179 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:12,672 "We're in trouble," 180 00:11:12,846 --> 00:11:16,240 because Israel hadn't responded yet. 181 00:11:20,027 --> 00:11:22,682 SHABBOS KESTENBAUM: In the early hours of October 8th, 182 00:11:22,856 --> 00:11:25,597 34 student groups really championed 183 00:11:25,772 --> 00:11:27,774 by the Harvard Palestine Solidarity Committee, 184 00:11:27,948 --> 00:11:30,951 promoted this statement. The opening line says, 185 00:11:31,125 --> 00:11:33,301 "we hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible 186 00:11:33,475 --> 00:11:35,869 for all the violence unfolding." 187 00:11:36,043 --> 00:11:38,959 At no point was Hamas ever condemned or even named. 188 00:11:41,178 --> 00:11:45,487 RABBI DAVID WOLPE: The statement went viral all over the world. 189 00:11:45,661 --> 00:11:48,272 In a strange way, Harvard had become, 190 00:11:48,446 --> 00:11:52,320 outside of the Middle East itself, the single 191 00:11:52,494 --> 00:11:54,496 most important battleground 192 00:11:54,670 --> 00:11:58,979 for forces on both sides of this continuing struggle. 193 00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:00,676 NEWSCASTER: Hundreds of people supporting the Palestinians 194 00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:03,940 gathered outside Cambridge City Hall today. 195 00:12:04,114 --> 00:12:05,550 Dozens supporting Israel held 196 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:07,683 a counter protest across the street. 197 00:12:11,687 --> 00:12:15,256 WOLPE: Once Harvard had set the tone, 198 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:16,997 it started this 199 00:12:17,171 --> 00:12:19,477 unfathomable chain reaction. 200 00:12:20,652 --> 00:12:22,480 DEMONSTRATORS: Free, free Palestine! 201 00:12:22,654 --> 00:12:26,093 - Free, free Palestine! - Free, free Palestine! 202 00:12:26,267 --> 00:12:29,400 - Free, free! Free Palestine! - Free, free! Free Palestine! 203 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:31,620 Israel, go to hell! 204 00:12:31,794 --> 00:12:34,188 NOA FAY: October 12th was the first 205 00:12:34,362 --> 00:12:38,366 anti-Israel and pro-terror rally that we saw on campus. 206 00:12:40,150 --> 00:12:45,634 I was still consumed by the ongoing grief of October 7th. 207 00:12:46,330 --> 00:12:50,508 It was incredibly shocking to see my peers in support 208 00:12:50,682 --> 00:12:53,381 of a terrorist attack. 209 00:12:53,555 --> 00:12:56,079 I personally was starting to 210 00:12:56,253 --> 00:13:00,431 just feel a lot of tension within my own social circles. 211 00:13:00,605 --> 00:13:02,956 REPORTER: From the quad of Columbia University, 212 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:05,219 dual rallies, side by side. 213 00:13:11,442 --> 00:13:15,969 DAVIDAI: This is the first time since the Vietnam War 214 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:19,233 that Columbia University shut its gates to the public. 215 00:13:19,407 --> 00:13:21,670 What I see is about 900 students 216 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:24,194 shouting "by all means necessary." 217 00:13:24,368 --> 00:13:28,068 And behind me, about 200 218 00:13:28,242 --> 00:13:31,419 Jewish American students holding the posters 219 00:13:31,593 --> 00:13:33,900 of the kidnapped in absolute silence. 220 00:13:34,074 --> 00:13:37,599 So it's two quads and I'm standing there in the middle. 221 00:13:38,382 --> 00:13:41,298 I wasn't seeing an ideological disagreement between two sides. 222 00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:44,824 I was seeing hatred. 223 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:57,619 EYAL YAKOBY: Even before October 11th, 224 00:13:57,793 --> 00:13:59,142 we've been seeing more and more 225 00:13:59,316 --> 00:14:01,666 anti-Semitic incidents on campus. 226 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:05,192 "Jews are Nazis" was spray-painted adjacent 227 00:14:05,366 --> 00:14:07,498 to Penn's main Jewish fraternity house. 228 00:14:07,672 --> 00:14:10,719 There was a swastika spray- painted inside of a building. 229 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:13,243 "90% of pigs are gas chambered" was written in chalk 230 00:14:13,417 --> 00:14:16,290 in the center of campus. 231 00:14:16,464 --> 00:14:18,858 DEMONSTRATORS: Hey, hey, ho, ho, the occupation has got to go. 232 00:14:19,032 --> 00:14:21,643 Hey, hey, ho, ho, the occupation... 233 00:14:21,817 --> 00:14:23,558 CLAUDINE GAY: Our university embraces 234 00:14:23,732 --> 00:14:26,300 a commitment to free expression. 235 00:14:26,474 --> 00:14:30,695 That commitment extends even to views that many of us 236 00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:33,655 find objectionable, even outrageous. 237 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:36,701 WOLPE: I got a call from Claudine Gay 238 00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:40,053 and she was deeply emotional. 239 00:14:40,227 --> 00:14:41,837 She'd been in the job for two, three months 240 00:14:42,011 --> 00:14:44,100 and all of a sudden it was the biggest crisis 241 00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:46,102 that the university has had. 242 00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:49,062 She talked about creating an anti-Semitism panel 243 00:14:49,236 --> 00:14:50,890 and I thought, "Okay, this is gonna be the response 244 00:14:51,064 --> 00:14:52,717 "of the university. 245 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:54,981 "People can protest 'cause protesting is okay, 246 00:14:55,155 --> 00:14:56,896 but this stuff is gonna stop." 247 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:58,549 JEWISH STUDENT: Stop touching me. 248 00:14:58,723 --> 00:15:02,379 PROTESTERS: Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! 249 00:15:02,553 --> 00:15:04,512 SENOR: Protests quickly turned 250 00:15:04,686 --> 00:15:07,384 beyond just rhetorical outbursts 251 00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:09,952 to bullying and pushing 252 00:15:10,126 --> 00:15:12,912 and shoving and then outright violence. 253 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,566 FAY: You have students who are being 254 00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:17,351 physically assaulted. Their Magen Davids 255 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:19,309 are being ripped off their neck. 256 00:15:19,483 --> 00:15:22,443 They're being shouted at because they're visibly Jewish. 257 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:24,314 DEMONSTRATORS: Viva, viva Palestina. 258 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,142 TALIA DROR: You had massive rallies at Cornell. 259 00:15:26,316 --> 00:15:28,014 Students, professors, 260 00:15:28,188 --> 00:15:31,365 and administrators all glorified the October 7th attacks. 261 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:33,584 Professor Russell Rickford 262 00:15:33,758 --> 00:15:35,021 announced that he was exhilarated 263 00:15:35,195 --> 00:15:37,501 and energized by the Hamas attacks. 264 00:15:40,287 --> 00:15:41,853 A lot of students called it resistance. 265 00:15:42,028 --> 00:15:43,551 They called it justified. 266 00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:45,988 They began calling Zionist students racist. 267 00:15:46,162 --> 00:15:48,121 PROTESTOR: All settlers and all settlements 268 00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:49,861 are legitimate military targets 269 00:15:50,036 --> 00:15:52,386 and they will be targeted 270 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,344 and you can either live there in peace 271 00:15:54,518 --> 00:15:57,434 or you can go back to Moscow, and Brooklyn, and Gstaad 272 00:15:57,608 --> 00:16:00,089 and fucking Berlin, where you came from. 273 00:16:00,263 --> 00:16:02,962 YAKOBY: We started seeing an explosion of violence. 274 00:16:03,136 --> 00:16:04,746 The Chabad house 275 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,661 was broken into and vandalized. 276 00:16:06,835 --> 00:16:08,924 The Hillel received bomb threats. 277 00:16:13,233 --> 00:16:14,756 Jewish students are texting in their group chats 278 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:17,541 saying, "Is it safe to walk outside?" 279 00:16:17,715 --> 00:16:21,676 We cannot protect your children from pro-terror 280 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:24,766 student organizations because the president 281 00:16:24,940 --> 00:16:29,423 of Columbia University will not speak out. 282 00:16:29,597 --> 00:16:31,294 People have asked me in the past few days, 283 00:16:31,468 --> 00:16:33,644 "Are you not afraid to speak up? 284 00:16:33,818 --> 00:16:36,169 You're putting your job on the line." 285 00:16:36,343 --> 00:16:37,257 You got it all wrong. 286 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:39,389 I am not afraid to speak up. 287 00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:43,437 I am speaking up because I'm afraid! 288 00:16:48,572 --> 00:16:52,185 This is the rawest that I've ever been. Right? 289 00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:56,754 Like, this is, you know, 290 00:16:56,928 --> 00:16:58,539 this is when-- when you take away 291 00:16:58,713 --> 00:17:01,020 all the-the defense mechanisms 292 00:17:01,194 --> 00:17:04,806 and it's like this is pure pain. 293 00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:10,464 VEKSLER: UCSB is generally a calm campus. 294 00:17:10,638 --> 00:17:12,944 There were protests here and there, 295 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,381 but a lot of it was behind the scenes. 296 00:17:14,555 --> 00:17:15,991 A lot of it was happening online. 297 00:17:17,253 --> 00:17:18,863 Right after October 7th, 298 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:21,562 I made a post essentially saying October 7th 299 00:17:21,736 --> 00:17:23,216 was the largest massacre against Jews 300 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:25,174 since the Holocaust. 301 00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:27,611 Standing up for Jewish human rights is not political. 302 00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:29,744 I stand with the Jewish community. 303 00:17:29,918 --> 00:17:32,703 And I stand with Israel, and you should, too. 304 00:17:32,877 --> 00:17:35,532 The hate started flooding in almost immediately. 305 00:17:35,706 --> 00:17:38,796 And a lot of it was really tied to the fact 306 00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:42,148 that I'm student body president of my university. 307 00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:45,760 And people were upset that I was taking a stance. 308 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:50,330 It was on every platform you could imagine. 309 00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:54,682 And also, they were kind of acting 310 00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,771 as if I had emerged from the Zionist closet, 311 00:17:56,945 --> 00:17:58,468 even though 312 00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:00,644 when I was elected student body president, 313 00:18:00,818 --> 00:18:02,429 I was the president of Students Supporting Israel 314 00:18:02,603 --> 00:18:05,475 on my campus when I ran. 315 00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:10,611 My parents and my brother immigrated 316 00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:13,875 from the former Soviet Union in 1990, 317 00:18:14,049 --> 00:18:15,703 and I know that 318 00:18:15,877 --> 00:18:17,444 a big reason as to why they left 319 00:18:17,618 --> 00:18:19,881 was anti-Semitism. 320 00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:23,624 They didn't want my brother to have this life that they had. 321 00:18:23,798 --> 00:18:26,235 The definitely relinquished their Jewish identities. 322 00:18:26,409 --> 00:18:29,238 I mean, they put my brother in a Catholic school. 323 00:18:29,412 --> 00:18:31,762 My brother and I are 20 years apart. 324 00:18:31,936 --> 00:18:34,765 So by the time I was born, things had changed a bit. 325 00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:36,376 My parents were more open 326 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:40,031 to the idea of having a Jewish-raised daughter. 327 00:18:40,206 --> 00:18:44,123 But it was really obvious that there was a fear 328 00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:46,560 around being an openly Jewish person. 329 00:18:46,734 --> 00:18:50,999 They didn't have to say it. It was just clear to me. 330 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:55,395 I feel a big responsibility defending my people. 331 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:59,225 I can't be quiet about this. 332 00:18:59,399 --> 00:19:03,011 I published an op-ed called "What College Students Can Do 333 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:06,319 to Support the Jewish People and Israel." 334 00:19:06,493 --> 00:19:08,103 Imagine if on October 9th, 335 00:19:08,277 --> 00:19:11,106 instead of harassing me on social media, 336 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,414 that the entire student body bound together to condemn 337 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,851 what happened on October 7th. 338 00:19:17,025 --> 00:19:19,332 And if every American college campus did that 339 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:20,898 and the U.S. government did that 340 00:19:21,072 --> 00:19:22,465 and the international community did that, 341 00:19:22,639 --> 00:19:24,902 Hamas would've had no ammunition. 342 00:19:26,556 --> 00:19:31,126 FAY: Everything that we saw was organized 343 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:33,520 and directed by SJP. 344 00:19:33,694 --> 00:19:36,175 They took the initiative to 345 00:19:36,349 --> 00:19:39,090 host the rallies, to provide the chants. 346 00:19:40,527 --> 00:19:42,268 JONATHAN SCHANZER: SJP, or Students for Justice 347 00:19:42,442 --> 00:19:47,229 in Palestine is probably the most active network 348 00:19:47,403 --> 00:19:51,712 of students, professors, administrators, and activists. 349 00:19:51,886 --> 00:19:54,845 Vehemently anti-Israel, anti-Zionist. 350 00:19:55,019 --> 00:19:56,630 75% of most of the resources 351 00:19:56,804 --> 00:19:59,198 that support Islamophobia is coming from 352 00:19:59,372 --> 00:20:01,112 pro-Israel sources. If you don't know... 353 00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:03,419 SCHANZER: Hatem Bazian, the current chairman 354 00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:06,683 of American Muslims for Palestine 355 00:20:06,857 --> 00:20:08,946 created the first branch of 356 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,384 Students for Justice in Palestine 357 00:20:11,558 --> 00:20:14,387 on the campus of Berkeley in the 1990s. 358 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:15,910 HATEM BAZIAN: Well, we've been watching 359 00:20:16,084 --> 00:20:17,955 intifada in Palestine. 360 00:20:18,129 --> 00:20:20,784 We've been watching an uprising in Iraq 361 00:20:20,958 --> 00:20:25,224 and it's about time that we have an intifada in this country! 362 00:20:29,315 --> 00:20:31,099 SCHANZER: And today we believe 363 00:20:31,273 --> 00:20:33,710 that there are about 200 different branches 364 00:20:33,884 --> 00:20:37,148 of SJP operating on campuses across the United States. 365 00:20:37,323 --> 00:20:39,586 But when I say we believe, I say that 366 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,504 because they are an unincorporated association. 367 00:20:44,678 --> 00:20:48,421 It's not a not-for-profit. It's not a 501[c][3]. 368 00:20:48,595 --> 00:20:51,728 They actually don't exist on paper 369 00:20:51,902 --> 00:20:54,775 in any accountable way. 370 00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:58,387 People think they are grassroots. 371 00:20:58,561 --> 00:21:00,302 What I don't think they understand is 372 00:21:00,476 --> 00:21:02,217 a terrorist group is actually providing them 373 00:21:02,391 --> 00:21:04,088 with marching orders. 374 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:07,091 DEMONSTRATORS: Free, free Palestine! 375 00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:14,882 VIDINO: Back in '93, 376 00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:18,146 a meeting took place in a hotel in Philadelphia. 377 00:21:19,626 --> 00:21:21,584 25 leaders of Hamas in America-- we're talking about 378 00:21:21,758 --> 00:21:25,284 very senior people-- met and discussed strategy. 379 00:21:25,458 --> 00:21:28,461 This meeting was monitored by the FBI. 380 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:47,131 And the main thing they discussed was how to present 381 00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:50,874 what Hamas was doing and make it palatable to Americans. 382 00:21:51,048 --> 00:21:56,010 And so in a very efficient, very precise way, they said, 383 00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:57,577 "Okay, with audience so-and-so-- 384 00:21:57,751 --> 00:21:59,187 "so when we meet with progressives, 385 00:21:59,361 --> 00:22:01,755 "we're gonna frame it in the terms of apartheid 386 00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:03,670 and racial oppression." 387 00:22:12,548 --> 00:22:15,725 What we're seeing today is the realization 388 00:22:15,899 --> 00:22:18,946 and the implementation of that strategy. 389 00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:22,558 These people know very well 390 00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:25,605 what the American political discourse is and the language 391 00:22:25,779 --> 00:22:27,171 they are repackaging is really 392 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:31,045 what makes SJP a very clever organization. 393 00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:34,614 ASAF ROMIROWSKY: SJP had a toolkit in place 394 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:40,315 right after October 7th that was a how-to guide with succinct 395 00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:44,798 and analogous messaging for how to mobilize their students 396 00:22:44,972 --> 00:22:48,149 and their chapter members throughout the United States. 397 00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:52,762 And that toolkit came to them directly 398 00:22:52,936 --> 00:22:55,243 out of Hamas messaging. 399 00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:58,768 Hamas is a terrorist organization defined 400 00:22:58,942 --> 00:23:00,944 by the U.S. State Department 401 00:23:01,118 --> 00:23:04,034 and designated as a terror group. 402 00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:05,427 TAL-OR COHEN MONTEMAYOR: The attack 403 00:23:05,601 --> 00:23:07,516 by Hamas on October 7th was called 404 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:09,736 the Al Aqsa Flood. 405 00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:13,000 That's how they referred to it themselves, Hamas. 406 00:23:13,174 --> 00:23:16,177 And then we saw SJP create 407 00:23:16,351 --> 00:23:18,658 Flood the Streets for Palestine. 408 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,312 So they're literally taking something that's being used 409 00:23:21,487 --> 00:23:24,925 by a terrorist group to actually perpetuate violence and now 410 00:23:25,099 --> 00:23:26,796 adapting that into their imagery 411 00:23:26,970 --> 00:23:29,016 and their protest content. 412 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,105 ROMIROWSKY: From a funding standpoint, 413 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,889 there's a lot of flow of money 414 00:23:33,063 --> 00:23:36,327 that's coming to fund this kind of activism. 415 00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:41,942 SJP is an affiliate of American Muslims for Palestine, AMP. 416 00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:44,031 AMP has direct ties to Hamas 417 00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:46,076 and the Muslim Brotherhood. 418 00:23:46,250 --> 00:23:49,689 And so SJP receives direct funding from groups affiliated 419 00:23:49,863 --> 00:23:53,040 with the Muslim Brotherhood including Hamas itself. 420 00:23:53,214 --> 00:23:56,696 SCHANZER: The Muslim Brotherhood is the cornerstone ideology 421 00:23:56,870 --> 00:24:00,743 for every radical group that has ever attacked America. 422 00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:03,616 But Hamas took their radical ideology 423 00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:05,313 and put it on steroids. 424 00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,576 And that's what is actually really so troubling 425 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:12,668 is that you are now watching students on the streets 426 00:24:12,842 --> 00:24:17,020 of America embracing the notion of violence. 427 00:24:20,197 --> 00:24:22,373 OTHERS: I am asking you all to escalate. 428 00:24:25,681 --> 00:24:27,727 OTHERS: And to disrupt the streets. 429 00:24:29,642 --> 00:24:31,861 OTHERS: To every single oppressor. 430 00:24:32,035 --> 00:24:34,516 OREN SEGAL: My whole sort of career is built on 431 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,345 kind of when the hair stands behind your neck 432 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,739 because you know things are getting too far. 433 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:41,741 Well, I'm in that moment right now, 434 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:45,745 and that's why I think this is different than previous protests 435 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:50,097 that didn't have the blatant blueprint for violence. 436 00:24:56,277 --> 00:24:58,584 TISHBY: These organizations are hate groups 437 00:24:58,758 --> 00:25:02,370 that use amazing words like "freedom" and "justice," 438 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:05,678 and they make the students believe that 439 00:25:05,852 --> 00:25:07,593 that's what they are about. 440 00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:09,508 Here are the words that they're not using. 441 00:25:09,682 --> 00:25:11,553 They're not using the word "peace" 442 00:25:11,727 --> 00:25:13,947 and they're not using the word "two-state solution." 443 00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:17,907 DEMONSTRATOR: We want all of it! 444 00:25:19,822 --> 00:25:25,436 BARI WEISS: SJP says explicitly, what they want is one state 445 00:25:25,611 --> 00:25:28,222 and what they're chanting in Arabic is not, 446 00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:29,963 "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." 447 00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:32,966 It's, "From the water to the water, Palestine is Arab." 448 00:25:41,278 --> 00:25:42,323 JONATHAN GREENBLATT: College students didn't 449 00:25:42,497 --> 00:25:44,455 come up with that slogan. 450 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:47,023 It is enshrined in the Hamas charter. 451 00:25:47,197 --> 00:25:48,764 When they say that Palestine will be free 452 00:25:48,938 --> 00:25:52,768 from the river to the sea, they mean free of Jews. 453 00:25:52,942 --> 00:25:55,815 TISHBY: SJP is designed 454 00:25:55,989 --> 00:25:59,470 to delegitimize the only Jewish state in the world. 455 00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:02,473 For example, they'll bring a vote on campus. 456 00:26:02,648 --> 00:26:05,433 They'll ask the student body of the university to adopt 457 00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:07,087 the BDS resolution. 458 00:26:07,261 --> 00:26:09,698 SCHANZER: BDS is the acronym 459 00:26:09,872 --> 00:26:12,135 for Boycott Divestment and Sanctions. 460 00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:17,227 The engineers of the BDS movement 461 00:26:17,401 --> 00:26:20,230 look back at the unraveling 462 00:26:20,404 --> 00:26:22,276 of apartheid South Africa 463 00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:27,368 as a template for a way to destroy Israel, 464 00:26:27,542 --> 00:26:31,938 to turn it into a country that will be shunned 465 00:26:32,112 --> 00:26:33,722 by the international community. 466 00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:34,984 NEWSCASTER: Protestors are demanding colleges 467 00:26:35,158 --> 00:26:36,769 divest from companies they say 468 00:26:36,943 --> 00:26:38,422 profit from ties to Israel. 469 00:26:38,597 --> 00:26:39,902 DEMONSTRATOR: How do you spell justice? 470 00:26:40,076 --> 00:26:41,425 OTHERS: BDS! 471 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,690 STUDENT: SBW 24-0-12 passes with... 472 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,521 TISHBY: All of these campus resolutions 473 00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:54,090 have no actual meaning, but what it does do 474 00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:57,311 is it trains the college students 475 00:26:57,485 --> 00:26:59,879 that a resolution on the legitimacy 476 00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:03,360 of Israel is even a valid resolution to begin with. 477 00:27:03,534 --> 00:27:05,798 So criticism of the state of Israel is normal 478 00:27:05,972 --> 00:27:08,975 and is important as one would be critical of any country 479 00:27:09,149 --> 00:27:12,369 and its government for any range of policies. 480 00:27:13,196 --> 00:27:14,937 There's a big debate in this country about what 481 00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:17,897 to do about the policies of the Chinese Communist Party. 482 00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:19,246 You don't hear anyone saying, 483 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:21,509 "Does China have a right to exist?" 484 00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:26,079 Somehow when there's a debate about Israel, it often gets-- 485 00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:27,733 there's a sort of reductionist approach 486 00:27:27,907 --> 00:27:29,299 where quickly the question is, 487 00:27:29,473 --> 00:27:31,040 "Well, does Israel have a right to exist?" 488 00:27:31,214 --> 00:27:34,653 We don't have that discussion about any other country, 489 00:27:34,827 --> 00:27:36,524 and that is the way anti-Semitism 490 00:27:36,698 --> 00:27:38,439 is expressed today. 491 00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:41,877 BLAKE FLAYTON: One of the greatest perpetrators 492 00:27:42,051 --> 00:27:44,663 of anti-Semitism on campus is, 493 00:27:44,837 --> 00:27:46,447 if not officially DEI, 494 00:27:46,621 --> 00:27:49,015 then the essence of DEI, the ideology of DEI. 495 00:27:49,189 --> 00:27:51,670 DEI stands for 496 00:27:51,844 --> 00:27:53,541 Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. 497 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:58,111 And their mission statement is to promote diversity. 498 00:27:59,634 --> 00:28:00,853 WOLPE: DEI was designed 499 00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:03,551 basically to make sure that people 500 00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:06,380 of color would be protected on campus. 501 00:28:06,554 --> 00:28:09,078 It was not designed, first of all, 502 00:28:09,252 --> 00:28:10,514 certainly for Jews, 503 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,212 but also to realize that you 504 00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:13,430 can be vulnerable on campus 505 00:28:13,604 --> 00:28:15,128 for lots and lots of reasons, 506 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,521 not only for reasons of your race. 507 00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:18,914 SCOTT GALLOWAY: DEI, like a lot of things, 508 00:28:19,088 --> 00:28:21,482 it started off with the right intentions 509 00:28:21,656 --> 00:28:23,527 and we've made tremendous progress, 510 00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,399 and that's something we should celebrate. 511 00:28:25,573 --> 00:28:28,402 The issue is that we've created this orthodoxy 512 00:28:28,576 --> 00:28:30,230 that's unhealthy, where we've decided 513 00:28:30,404 --> 00:28:31,710 there are oppressors and oppressed. 514 00:28:31,884 --> 00:28:33,233 There's not a lot of nuance here. 515 00:28:33,407 --> 00:28:35,539 We stand here on the side of Palestine 516 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,977 because that is the side of the oppressed. 517 00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:40,588 The fastest way to identify an oppressor is basically 518 00:28:40,762 --> 00:28:44,287 kind of pale and male and wealth. 519 00:28:44,984 --> 00:28:46,637 People have assigned this kind of white, 520 00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:50,990 rich oppressiveness to Jews and Israel. 521 00:28:51,164 --> 00:28:54,471 And this got so kind of overdone 522 00:28:54,645 --> 00:28:57,213 that I think the snake started eating its own tail 523 00:28:57,387 --> 00:29:00,869 and you've ended up with racism itself. 524 00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:03,393 SENOR: If your lens is just on Israel 525 00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:04,743 versus the Palestinians, 526 00:29:04,917 --> 00:29:06,309 Israel is stronger. 527 00:29:06,483 --> 00:29:08,616 So there's your David and Goliath. 528 00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,749 Now, of course, 529 00:29:10,923 --> 00:29:12,663 if you lift the lens a little bit, 530 00:29:12,838 --> 00:29:15,710 you realize that the story's more complicated than that. 531 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:21,368 So you have Hamas, which is not just a group 532 00:29:21,542 --> 00:29:24,850 of poor Palestinians that have been oppressed by Israel, 533 00:29:25,024 --> 00:29:28,984 but it is also a military, which is well-trained 534 00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:31,813 and well-armed by Iran. 535 00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:35,469 And Iran is committed to Israel's destruction. 536 00:29:44,565 --> 00:29:46,436 Iran is also arming 537 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:50,353 and training another proxy army in Israel's north, Hezbollah. 538 00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:52,965 And as we're learning about these other organizations 539 00:29:53,139 --> 00:29:55,489 like the Houthis and Syria, 540 00:29:55,663 --> 00:29:57,056 which is on Israel's border, 541 00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:59,667 and you start to say, "Wait a minute, 542 00:29:59,841 --> 00:30:02,061 suddenly who's the David and who's the Goliath?" 543 00:30:02,235 --> 00:30:04,063 Ethnic cleansing no more! 544 00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:05,673 VIDINO: We can go back 30 years 545 00:30:05,847 --> 00:30:08,545 and we have seen these sort of protests, 546 00:30:08,719 --> 00:30:14,029 but they've historically been confined to small milieus. 547 00:30:14,943 --> 00:30:16,815 It had gotten more brazen and larger over the years, 548 00:30:16,989 --> 00:30:19,469 but all of a sudden it really became big. 549 00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:22,298 PROTESTERS: We demand liberation! 550 00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:24,039 VIDINO: There has been a growing ability 551 00:30:24,213 --> 00:30:28,130 of that small group of Hamas sympathizers 552 00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:32,395 and pro-Palestinian advocates to create synergies 553 00:30:32,569 --> 00:30:35,616 and alliances with fellow travelers. 554 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,794 FAY: Students for Justice in Palestine have, 555 00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:42,666 in my view, manipulated and come 556 00:30:42,841 --> 00:30:46,235 to capitalize on the very real grievances 557 00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:48,585 of our Black community, 558 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,023 our Indigenous community, 559 00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:53,503 our queer community, 560 00:30:53,677 --> 00:30:56,028 and the rights of other marginalized identities. 561 00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:58,552 DEMONSTRATORS: Free, free, free Palestine! 562 00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:00,554 FAY: SJP is showing our Barnard students 563 00:31:00,728 --> 00:31:02,817 that if you join this movement, 564 00:31:02,991 --> 00:31:04,732 then you're behaving righteously. 565 00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:06,647 You're doing the correct thing. 566 00:31:11,086 --> 00:31:13,915 ROMIROWSKY: The Palestinian narrative through the narrative 567 00:31:14,089 --> 00:31:17,092 of intersectionality has 568 00:31:17,266 --> 00:31:20,139 hijacked every underdog cause in the world. 569 00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:31,628 If you are perceived to be yourself as an oppressed group, 570 00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:33,587 you also have to support the Palestinian cause 571 00:31:33,761 --> 00:31:36,111 because they are the gold standard 572 00:31:36,285 --> 00:31:39,680 of oppression within the pyramid of oppressed groups. 573 00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:43,684 VIDINO: So when you put all these elements together, 574 00:31:43,858 --> 00:31:45,425 you have the perfect storm 575 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:47,079 because you have the ability 576 00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:51,344 of that pro-Hamas, pro-resistance crowd 577 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:55,478 to repackage the Hamas narrative 578 00:31:55,652 --> 00:31:58,090 and mobilize the allies they have made over time. 579 00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:01,658 It was fringe ten, 15 years ago. 580 00:32:01,832 --> 00:32:03,922 It's quite mainstream 581 00:32:04,096 --> 00:32:06,750 at least on college campuses these days. 582 00:32:07,751 --> 00:32:09,884 ROMIROWSKY: Even though they're coming from the right 583 00:32:10,058 --> 00:32:12,582 and the left, all of these groups are willing 584 00:32:12,756 --> 00:32:15,890 to put aside their differences 585 00:32:16,064 --> 00:32:20,329 and they're willing to converge because of their hatred 586 00:32:20,503 --> 00:32:22,766 and trying to turn the West on its head. 587 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,943 This is Hamas in America. 588 00:32:25,117 --> 00:32:27,162 ... 589 00:32:36,693 --> 00:32:38,391 MOSAB HASSAN YOUSEF: Not many people 590 00:32:38,565 --> 00:32:40,915 know Hamas as I know Hamas. 591 00:32:41,089 --> 00:32:43,309 My father, 592 00:32:43,483 --> 00:32:47,661 he was a big shot and he's still a big shot in Hamas. 593 00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:50,707 REPORTER: For ten years, Mosab worked undercover for Israel. 594 00:32:50,881 --> 00:32:53,536 Israel's internal security service, 595 00:32:53,710 --> 00:32:55,756 the Shin Bet, considered him its most valuable source 596 00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:58,367 within the Hamas leadership. 597 00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:00,065 YOUSEF: For many years, when people ask me 598 00:33:00,239 --> 00:33:03,024 about the Middle East, I did not talk about it 599 00:33:03,198 --> 00:33:04,939 because I thought I was done with it. 600 00:33:05,113 --> 00:33:08,029 But when October 7th happened, I had no choice 601 00:33:08,203 --> 00:33:11,337 but to take my moral responsibility. 602 00:33:13,687 --> 00:33:17,996 Hamas' ultimate goal is to establish an Islamic state. 603 00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:20,520 Their fight is not over territory. 604 00:33:35,622 --> 00:33:40,583 They thought by jumping on the Palestinian cause, 605 00:33:40,757 --> 00:33:44,848 it's an effective way to fan the flame 606 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:48,504 of nationalism, in order to get 607 00:33:48,678 --> 00:33:52,378 to their religious agendas. 608 00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:57,122 If Israel does not defeat Hamas in Gaza, 609 00:33:57,296 --> 00:34:02,127 Hamas will prove to all other Islamists around the world 610 00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:07,175 that it was possible to bring a democracy on its knees. 611 00:34:07,349 --> 00:34:11,832 And any Hamas win will not be only a threat 612 00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:14,313 to the state of Israel and to the Jewish people. 613 00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:19,927 It will be a threat against all civilized people 614 00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:24,888 who want to live in harmony, who believe in tolerance, 615 00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:28,849 who believe in peaceful dialogue 616 00:34:29,023 --> 00:34:32,809 with their neighbors, who believe in diversity. 617 00:34:32,983 --> 00:34:36,291 And Hamas is anti all that. 618 00:34:43,385 --> 00:34:46,084 Since October 7th, all this mob, 619 00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:48,869 the angry people you saw on the streets, 620 00:34:49,043 --> 00:34:51,524 they want to globalize the intifada. 621 00:34:55,571 --> 00:35:01,011 Globalizing intifada means global disorder. 622 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:04,406 People define it as uprise, but it is not. 623 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:08,149 My definition of intifada is chaos. 624 00:35:09,846 --> 00:35:11,805 People here in the West, 625 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:13,415 what they don't understand 626 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:16,897 that shortly after adapting 627 00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:18,986 the concept of intifada... 628 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,554 ALL: Globalize the intifada! 629 00:35:21,728 --> 00:35:22,859 ...violence will follow. 630 00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:27,081 Killing, 631 00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:28,691 mass shooting, 632 00:35:28,865 --> 00:35:31,085 bus derailing, 633 00:35:31,259 --> 00:35:32,521 suicide bombings. 634 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:36,177 It's anti-civilization. 635 00:35:36,351 --> 00:35:39,615 So, to bring intifada to the United States? 636 00:35:39,789 --> 00:35:42,575 Intifada contradicts with the American Constitution. 637 00:35:42,749 --> 00:35:48,885 Intifada contradicts with all the values of the free world. 638 00:35:54,674 --> 00:35:57,677 SENOR: Less than two weeks after October 7th, 639 00:35:57,851 --> 00:35:59,983 The New York Times posts an article saying 640 00:36:00,158 --> 00:36:01,898 this hospital's been bombed. 641 00:36:02,072 --> 00:36:03,639 Within minutes of it, quote, unquote, "being bombed," 642 00:36:03,813 --> 00:36:05,989 they already know how many casualties there were. 643 00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:08,862 Buried in the piece was, to me, 644 00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:10,951 the most revealing part of the article. 645 00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:14,259 The IDF does not believe it was responsible, 646 00:36:14,433 --> 00:36:16,957 but is looking into it to get to the bottom of it. 647 00:36:17,131 --> 00:36:19,046 And The New York Times said, "Sorry, 648 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,874 "we don't have time for you to get back to us. 649 00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:22,919 We'll take the Hamas version." 650 00:36:23,093 --> 00:36:25,270 And then boom, it goes out to The New York Times-- 651 00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:26,880 seven, eight million subscribers, 652 00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:28,925 notifications on everyone's phone. 653 00:36:33,495 --> 00:36:35,105 Intelligence from few sources 654 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,239 that we have in our hands indicates 655 00:36:38,413 --> 00:36:40,720 that the Islamic Jihad is responsible 656 00:36:40,894 --> 00:36:42,548 for the failed rocket launch, 657 00:36:42,722 --> 00:36:44,724 which hit the hospital in Gaza. 658 00:36:44,898 --> 00:36:48,162 Soon after, the IDF and the State Department 659 00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:50,556 and other news organizations started to put together 660 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:52,514 that it wasn't Israel. 661 00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:55,300 I need to show you what The New York Times just did. 662 00:36:55,474 --> 00:36:57,606 They updated their headline three times. 663 00:36:57,780 --> 00:36:59,304 The first headline says, 664 00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,262 "Israeli Strike Kills Hundreds in Hospital." 665 00:37:01,436 --> 00:37:03,090 The next headline says, 666 00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:06,659 "At Least 500 Dead in Strike on Gaza Hospital." 667 00:37:06,833 --> 00:37:10,489 The third one says, "At Least 500 Dead in Blast." 668 00:37:10,663 --> 00:37:11,577 When it's Hamas-- 669 00:37:11,751 --> 00:37:12,752 they realize it's Hamas-- 670 00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:13,796 it's no longer a strike, 671 00:37:13,970 --> 00:37:15,668 it's just a blast. 672 00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:17,191 We're learning more today 673 00:37:17,365 --> 00:37:19,324 about that explosion at a Gaza city hospital. 674 00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:21,630 REPORTER: Israel released what it says is 675 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:25,155 an intercepted conversation between two militants. 676 00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:28,202 "It's from us?" asks one. 677 00:37:28,376 --> 00:37:30,900 "It looks like it," replies the other. 678 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:32,815 SENOR: After The New York Times 679 00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:35,557 jumped the gun, they said they were wrong, 680 00:37:35,731 --> 00:37:37,516 but it was too late. 681 00:37:37,690 --> 00:37:41,041 God knows how many TikTok videos were created 682 00:37:41,215 --> 00:37:43,086 and circulating off that headline. 683 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,132 And there we go. 684 00:37:45,306 --> 00:37:47,177 RASHIDA TLAIB: To bomb a hospital... 685 00:37:48,396 --> 00:37:50,833 ...where children... 686 00:37:51,007 --> 00:37:54,402 HEN MAZZIG: People don't really notice the correction. 687 00:37:54,576 --> 00:37:56,404 They hear some headline that 688 00:37:56,578 --> 00:37:59,189 triggers this emotional response. 689 00:37:59,364 --> 00:38:01,322 Protests erupted around the world, 690 00:38:01,496 --> 00:38:03,672 calling to kill the Jews, attack the Jews. 691 00:38:06,371 --> 00:38:09,069 MAZZIG: One of the most important symbols for my family 692 00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:11,767 in Tunisia, the oldest Jewish synagogue, 693 00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:14,030 was burned to the ground. 694 00:38:16,729 --> 00:38:18,383 Wasn't just the media that ran with the story. 695 00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:19,732 Leading NGOs-- 696 00:38:19,906 --> 00:38:22,865 Human Rights Watch, 697 00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:25,694 Amnesty International, 698 00:38:25,868 --> 00:38:28,436 the Red Cross on their Twitter account, 699 00:38:28,610 --> 00:38:30,264 the World Health Organization-- 700 00:38:30,438 --> 00:38:34,355 all of them were pushing out the false story. 701 00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:37,706 So the demonization of Israel is not only being put out 702 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,796 by governments that have their own self-interests, 703 00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:42,755 but human rights groups, 704 00:38:42,929 --> 00:38:45,105 which should have no particular interest-- 705 00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:47,499 they're acting by ideology. 706 00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:50,110 DANIELLE HAAS: Human Rights Watch has become, 707 00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:52,155 in recent years, 708 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,028 one of the world's major human rights organizations, 709 00:38:55,202 --> 00:38:57,857 both in size and influence. 710 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,860 As the senior editor, I oversaw the production 711 00:39:01,034 --> 00:39:03,079 of the World Report, which was 712 00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:05,212 annual review of human rights abuses 713 00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:07,693 in more than 100 countries around the world. 714 00:39:08,868 --> 00:39:10,652 On October the 7th, 715 00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:13,438 I was the only Jewish 716 00:39:13,612 --> 00:39:17,833 Israeli staff member in the 600-plus-strong organization 717 00:39:18,007 --> 00:39:20,575 who actually lived in Israel. 718 00:39:20,749 --> 00:39:25,493 The first public response by the organization was a tweet. 719 00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:29,192 It was not unequivocal condemnation 720 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,760 of the massacre that had just happened. 721 00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,937 It was wrapped up with the language of apartheid 722 00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:36,809 and oppression. 723 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:43,598 It was my first indication that something was kind of awry 724 00:39:43,772 --> 00:39:45,557 of not only my organization, 725 00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:47,385 but rather many organizations. 726 00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:49,430 Failing to call a spade a spade, 727 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,868 calling a massacre a "military offensive" 728 00:39:53,042 --> 00:39:55,218 or an "escalation in violence." 729 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,525 I think what really tipped me over the edge 730 00:39:57,699 --> 00:40:00,223 was this meeting on October the 23rd. 731 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,922 There was a great deal of space given 732 00:40:03,096 --> 00:40:05,620 to what was going on in Gaza. 733 00:40:05,794 --> 00:40:09,711 And not one mention was made of a Jewish Israeli victim 734 00:40:09,885 --> 00:40:12,627 or a hostage. 735 00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:14,803 It felt sinister. 736 00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:20,374 I had a very strong visceral, physical reaction 737 00:40:20,548 --> 00:40:23,508 after that meeting. I was in a public space. 738 00:40:23,682 --> 00:40:27,207 I shut my computer and I-I-I went hysterical. 739 00:40:27,381 --> 00:40:30,602 I just, I-I just, I just kneeled by a wall 740 00:40:30,776 --> 00:40:35,433 and I-I was really, I don't-- I was really upset 741 00:40:35,607 --> 00:40:38,087 because it just seemed like something 742 00:40:38,261 --> 00:40:41,613 profoundly wrong had engulfed the organization. 743 00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:44,224 ... 744 00:40:44,398 --> 00:40:47,314 I was there for 13 and a half years, 745 00:40:47,488 --> 00:40:50,056 and when I left Human Rights Watch, 746 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:53,886 I wrote an internal email laying out what I thought 747 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:58,194 was so problematic about its Israel/Palestine work. 748 00:40:58,368 --> 00:41:02,808 They have had a conscious strategy to establish 749 00:41:02,982 --> 00:41:06,899 in the public mind that Israel is an apartheid state. 750 00:41:07,073 --> 00:41:08,422 We're here precisely because 751 00:41:08,596 --> 00:41:12,470 of years of impunity for grave abuses, 752 00:41:12,644 --> 00:41:14,254 including Israel's apartheid against Palestinians. 753 00:41:14,428 --> 00:41:16,169 HAAS: There were individuals 754 00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:18,606 that were slowly beginning to absorb others 755 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:22,523 into really seeing Israel as some sort of exceptional 756 00:41:22,697 --> 00:41:25,657 demonic country amongst all others. 757 00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:29,051 It flattened all complexities about Israel. 758 00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:32,054 These organizations are now conflated, 759 00:41:32,228 --> 00:41:33,273 by virtue of their moral message, 760 00:41:33,447 --> 00:41:36,189 with being moral themselves. 761 00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,540 And I think conscientious people think 762 00:41:39,714 --> 00:41:42,369 we are getting this from a reputable source. 763 00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,328 If a human rights organization is saying it, 764 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:47,069 it must be true. 765 00:41:47,243 --> 00:41:51,247 And that's an incredibly dangerous assumption to make. 766 00:41:51,421 --> 00:41:54,120 ... 767 00:42:01,606 --> 00:42:03,172 MESSING: We went to Times Square 768 00:42:03,346 --> 00:42:07,089 and we hung posters of all the hostages. 769 00:42:20,146 --> 00:42:23,889 People stayed away, but they were taking it in. 770 00:42:24,063 --> 00:42:25,978 And I thought, "Good... 771 00:42:27,153 --> 00:42:29,068 "...just take it in, 772 00:42:29,242 --> 00:42:31,244 just do not forget the hostages." 773 00:42:33,028 --> 00:42:34,464 Children, it's innocent people. 774 00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,076 Okay, what about the children in Palestine? 775 00:42:37,250 --> 00:42:38,556 They're not innocent civilians 776 00:42:38,730 --> 00:42:40,296 if they're profiting from the genocide. 777 00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:41,907 You just ripped off a kid. 778 00:42:42,081 --> 00:42:43,430 I thought you said the kids are-are innocent. 779 00:42:43,604 --> 00:42:45,693 SENOR: The infamous image of the posters 780 00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:49,131 of the hostages being torn down was, to me, 781 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,612 one of the most powerful events to happen so soon 782 00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:53,440 after October 7th. 783 00:42:53,614 --> 00:42:56,661 And that's when I started to say, "Wait a minute. 784 00:42:56,835 --> 00:42:59,228 Something is really wrong here." 785 00:42:59,402 --> 00:43:00,839 You're taking the kidnapped posters down. 786 00:43:01,013 --> 00:43:02,928 'Cause fuck Israel. That's why. 787 00:43:05,278 --> 00:43:06,671 MESSING: Please stop ripping our posters down. 788 00:43:06,845 --> 00:43:08,586 These are innocent civilians in Israel. 789 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,413 (....) you and Israel. 790 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,111 MESSING: There was so much happening, 791 00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:14,504 all of these horrendous narratives, 792 00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:18,508 that the hostages were being completely forgotten. 793 00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:23,775 We sent out a letter, 794 00:43:23,949 --> 00:43:25,167 a plea 795 00:43:25,341 --> 00:43:26,691 to our government 796 00:43:26,865 --> 00:43:28,170 and all governments around the world 797 00:43:28,344 --> 00:43:30,216 to prioritize 798 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:33,349 getting the hostages back. 799 00:43:36,483 --> 00:43:39,355 And people wouldn't sign it. 800 00:43:40,052 --> 00:43:45,013 I thought that there would be an army of activists 801 00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:48,800 and celebrities who would be out, 802 00:43:48,974 --> 00:43:52,847 and I felt completely 803 00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:56,372 betrayed by Hollywood. 804 00:43:56,546 --> 00:43:59,506 The hostages must come home. 805 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,639 Free every single one of them. 806 00:44:01,813 --> 00:44:04,424 I spoke at the rally in Washington, D.C., 807 00:44:04,598 --> 00:44:07,688 and I was so humbly appreciative 808 00:44:07,862 --> 00:44:10,299 with the response of the way I spoke. 809 00:44:10,473 --> 00:44:12,475 And I appreciate you guys. Thank you. 810 00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:15,087 I know where I am on the pecking order. 811 00:44:15,261 --> 00:44:19,482 There's so many other bigger names, bigger celebrities, 812 00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:21,484 the fact that I, 813 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:25,793 Michael Rapaport, was the big Hollywood name 814 00:44:25,967 --> 00:44:27,186 outside from the great 815 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,622 Debra Messing, 816 00:44:28,796 --> 00:44:30,798 it's some real fucking 817 00:44:30,972 --> 00:44:33,453 disappointing fucking shit. 818 00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:37,413 Hollywood celebrities 819 00:44:37,587 --> 00:44:39,720 speak out about so many different things. 820 00:44:39,894 --> 00:44:44,682 If it isn't the planet, Black Lives Matter, Ukraine, 821 00:44:44,856 --> 00:44:47,728 LGBTQ, trans community, 822 00:44:47,902 --> 00:44:50,513 inclusion, diversity. 823 00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:52,994 But if you're gonna say things about trees being cut down 824 00:44:53,168 --> 00:44:55,431 and penguins dying, 825 00:44:55,605 --> 00:44:57,303 you should be ashamed of yourself not saying anything 826 00:44:57,477 --> 00:44:59,392 about the fact that there's hostages. 827 00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:01,133 Just that. 828 00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:05,703 MURRAY: About ten years ago, I covered the conflict 829 00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:09,097 in northern Nigeria, which is where, 830 00:45:09,271 --> 00:45:12,318 famously, the Chibok schoolgirls were abducted 831 00:45:12,492 --> 00:45:15,016 by Boko Haram, an Islamist group very, 832 00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:17,584 very similar to Hamas. 833 00:45:17,758 --> 00:45:20,892 There was a huge campaign internationally, 834 00:45:21,066 --> 00:45:22,676 "Bring Back Our Girls." 835 00:45:26,549 --> 00:45:28,682 ... 836 00:45:28,856 --> 00:45:33,426 When Israeli children were abducted, 837 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,994 silence from the world. 838 00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:39,911 I know that many of my peers faced with so much hatred 839 00:45:40,085 --> 00:45:43,741 and anti-Semitism on campus are feeling helpless 840 00:45:43,915 --> 00:45:45,960 and hopeless. 841 00:45:46,134 --> 00:45:49,877 As I started speaking out, Barnard students were 842 00:45:50,051 --> 00:45:52,924 calling me names and saying that I-I support terrorism 843 00:45:53,098 --> 00:45:55,753 and that I support genocide because I'm a Zionist 844 00:45:55,927 --> 00:45:58,103 and that my residents are afraid 845 00:45:58,277 --> 00:46:00,235 to have a Zionist RA on their floor 846 00:46:00,409 --> 00:46:02,324 and they don't feel safe. 847 00:46:02,498 --> 00:46:03,935 Students started harassing me 848 00:46:04,109 --> 00:46:05,414 in the middle of the night, 849 00:46:05,588 --> 00:46:08,069 banging on my door. 850 00:46:08,243 --> 00:46:12,595 I felt a sense of isolation. Honestly, 851 00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:16,774 I-I really, I did fall into a very deep depression. 852 00:46:16,948 --> 00:46:19,298 No one expected the United States 853 00:46:19,472 --> 00:46:22,649 to enter into a ceasefire with the Empire of Japan 854 00:46:22,823 --> 00:46:25,217 when 2,400 Americans were murdered in Pearl Harbor. 855 00:46:27,219 --> 00:46:31,092 No one expected the United States to enter into a ceasefire 856 00:46:31,266 --> 00:46:34,269 with Al-Qaeda and the Taliban when 3,000 Americans 857 00:46:34,443 --> 00:46:36,402 were murdered on 9/11. 858 00:46:36,576 --> 00:46:39,448 And so, those who insist 859 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:43,017 that Israel should no longer defend itself 860 00:46:43,191 --> 00:46:45,628 are holding the Jewish state to a dangerous double standard 861 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:47,500 that no other country, 862 00:46:47,674 --> 00:46:50,242 including the United States, would ever impose on itself. 863 00:46:52,766 --> 00:46:54,507 TORRES: I'm commonly asked 864 00:46:54,681 --> 00:46:57,336 why would a gay Black Latino 865 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:59,207 from the South Bronx speak out 866 00:46:59,381 --> 00:47:01,427 so forcefully against anti-Semitism? 867 00:47:01,601 --> 00:47:05,257 The right question is, why have others chosen silence 868 00:47:05,431 --> 00:47:07,041 amid the deadliest day for Jews 869 00:47:07,215 --> 00:47:08,477 since the Holocaust? 870 00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:11,002 Dr. King once said 871 00:47:11,176 --> 00:47:14,483 that the greatest tragedy is not only the striding clamor 872 00:47:14,657 --> 00:47:16,224 of the bad people, 873 00:47:16,398 --> 00:47:18,836 but it's the appalling silence of the good people. 874 00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:22,361 And what we've seen after October 7th 875 00:47:22,535 --> 00:47:25,320 is widespread silence and indifference 876 00:47:25,494 --> 00:47:28,889 and cowardice from so-called leaders in our society, 877 00:47:29,063 --> 00:47:31,457 from college and university presidents and deans, 878 00:47:31,631 --> 00:47:33,459 from self-proclaimed progressives 879 00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:35,374 and human rights activists. 880 00:47:37,158 --> 00:47:40,031 When I express an opinion on Twitter 881 00:47:40,205 --> 00:47:42,337 that Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state 882 00:47:42,511 --> 00:47:44,731 and to be a sanctuary for the Jewish people, 883 00:47:44,905 --> 00:47:47,865 what often follows is an endless stream 884 00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:52,739 of anti-Semitic, homophobic, racist hate. 885 00:47:54,567 --> 00:47:57,918 There's no issue on which I face more harassment 886 00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:01,008 and death threats than on the subject of Israel. 887 00:48:01,182 --> 00:48:02,967 It's terrifying. 888 00:48:03,141 --> 00:48:05,665 Social media enables 889 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:09,495 the virus of anti-Semitism to spread on a scale 890 00:48:09,669 --> 00:48:13,803 and at a pace and to an extent that we've never seen before. 891 00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,551 SEGAL: For over 20 years, I've been tracking 892 00:48:22,725 --> 00:48:25,903 extremist movements across the ideological spectrum. 893 00:48:26,077 --> 00:48:29,080 I remember in the first three weeks after October 7th, 894 00:48:29,254 --> 00:48:30,908 in the online spaces 895 00:48:31,082 --> 00:48:34,389 that we monitor for... for just threats against Jews, 896 00:48:34,563 --> 00:48:36,783 we saw a 400% increase. 897 00:48:37,479 --> 00:48:42,136 MICHAEL MASTERS: Fantasies of violence, rape fantasies, 898 00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:44,704 mutilation fantasies, 899 00:48:44,878 --> 00:48:46,924 statements of, "I'm gonna go 900 00:48:47,098 --> 00:48:48,664 "into a synagogue 901 00:48:48,838 --> 00:48:52,016 and blow off the heads of as many Jews as I can find." 902 00:48:52,190 --> 00:48:56,063 That level of visualization of violence 903 00:48:56,237 --> 00:48:58,196 we've now seen become much more common 904 00:48:58,370 --> 00:49:00,720 and normalized. 905 00:49:01,416 --> 00:49:04,158 SEGAL: When Jews die, a lot of people get excited. 906 00:49:04,332 --> 00:49:07,727 That is not uncommon on social media platforms. 907 00:49:07,901 --> 00:49:10,034 But then we started seeing 908 00:49:10,208 --> 00:49:12,906 how certain online platforms 909 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,561 were creating almost like a connective 910 00:49:15,735 --> 00:49:19,130 online space for "activists" 911 00:49:19,304 --> 00:49:21,393 and terrorists. 912 00:49:21,567 --> 00:49:23,525 Not only is there calls for events 913 00:49:23,699 --> 00:49:27,051 by American anti-Israel activists, 914 00:49:27,225 --> 00:49:32,012 but, like, Hamas communiques and other terrorist propaganda. 915 00:49:32,186 --> 00:49:35,363 (singing "Hezbollah Hezbollah Hezbollah") 916 00:49:35,537 --> 00:49:38,192 I mean, it's mixing it all up 917 00:49:38,366 --> 00:49:41,065 so that people don't even recognize what is extremist 918 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,631 and anti-Semitic anymore, 919 00:49:42,805 --> 00:49:45,721 'cause it's all existing in the same space. 920 00:49:47,201 --> 00:49:49,769 I mean, let's just face it, the imagery 921 00:49:49,943 --> 00:49:52,380 and the language of revolution and of change 922 00:49:52,554 --> 00:49:56,602 that they're putting into their pro-terror narratives, 923 00:49:56,776 --> 00:49:59,605 it creates something that is intriguing to people. 924 00:50:01,433 --> 00:50:04,740 It doesn't get more clear than the immediate embrace 925 00:50:04,914 --> 00:50:08,918 of iconography from that day. 926 00:50:10,398 --> 00:50:12,183 So whether it was paragliders 927 00:50:12,357 --> 00:50:14,924 that were appearing on event notices 928 00:50:15,099 --> 00:50:17,144 to protest Israel 929 00:50:17,318 --> 00:50:19,581 or red triangles. 930 00:50:21,235 --> 00:50:23,324 A red triangle is used in Hamas propaganda 931 00:50:23,498 --> 00:50:24,891 to show Israeli targets 932 00:50:25,065 --> 00:50:26,849 before they are killed. 933 00:50:34,814 --> 00:50:38,992 This red triangle was "reappropriated" 934 00:50:39,166 --> 00:50:41,777 by pro-Palestinian groups as a symbol of resistance. 935 00:50:46,956 --> 00:50:48,784 SEGAL: The use of that red triangle now 936 00:50:48,958 --> 00:50:50,743 is-is almost like a threat. 937 00:50:50,917 --> 00:50:52,701 If somebody is being pro-Israel, 938 00:50:52,875 --> 00:50:54,529 you just reply with the red triangle 939 00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:56,749 as a substitute for the funny words 940 00:50:56,923 --> 00:50:59,143 that social media won't let me say anymore. 941 00:50:59,317 --> 00:51:01,841 SEGAL: It connotes that this is a legitimate target 942 00:51:02,015 --> 00:51:03,930 for this protest movement 943 00:51:04,104 --> 00:51:05,801 because they are either perceived to be, 944 00:51:05,975 --> 00:51:08,848 you know, Jewish or Zionists or pro-Israel. 945 00:51:09,022 --> 00:51:10,893 GALLOWAY: 70% of people my age support Israel. 946 00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:13,592 And the reality is 20% of people under the age of 25 947 00:51:13,766 --> 00:51:16,073 support Israel. 948 00:51:16,247 --> 00:51:17,900 We've never seen this sort of generational divide 949 00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:19,554 on a conflict. 950 00:51:19,728 --> 00:51:20,860 And the question is, well, why is it happening? 951 00:51:21,034 --> 00:51:22,688 ... 952 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:25,778 If you go on TikTok, for every one video that's 953 00:51:25,952 --> 00:51:29,390 served to young people that is pro-Israeli, 954 00:51:29,564 --> 00:51:31,610 there's 54 pro-Hamas 955 00:51:31,784 --> 00:51:33,655 and pro-Palestine videos served. 956 00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:35,831 54 to 1. 957 00:51:36,528 --> 00:51:38,356 So you might say, "Well, Scott, you're being paranoid. 958 00:51:38,530 --> 00:51:40,314 "This is just a function, a reflection of 959 00:51:40,488 --> 00:51:42,316 how young people feel who've come to their own conclusions." 960 00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:45,145 It's not. The ratio is wildly skewed. 961 00:51:45,319 --> 00:51:48,540 Any thoughtful analysis of what is going on here 962 00:51:48,714 --> 00:51:51,412 is basically saying the people controlling the algorithms 963 00:51:51,586 --> 00:51:52,935 at TikTok 964 00:51:53,110 --> 00:51:55,764 have decided it is in their interests 965 00:51:55,938 --> 00:51:59,855 to get young people more pro-Palestine and pro-Hamas. 966 00:52:04,991 --> 00:52:07,907 MASTERS: Foreign state and non-state actors 967 00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:12,216 are trying to influence and foment hate, 968 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:14,392 extremism, anti-Semitism. 969 00:52:14,566 --> 00:52:17,395 And to include anti-American, anti-Western, 970 00:52:17,569 --> 00:52:19,223 anti-U.S. sentiment. 971 00:52:19,397 --> 00:52:22,443 GALLOWAY: If the Chinese Communist Party owned Sky, 972 00:52:22,617 --> 00:52:28,275 the BBC, ABC, NBC, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Apple TV+, 973 00:52:28,449 --> 00:52:30,016 would we be okay with that? 974 00:52:30,190 --> 00:52:33,541 Because they do for people under the age of 25. 975 00:52:35,369 --> 00:52:38,198 VEKSLER: People my age do not read the news. 976 00:52:38,372 --> 00:52:40,026 They do not read books. They do not read 977 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,115 scholarly articles. They watch short-form content 978 00:52:42,289 --> 00:52:44,987 on apps like TikTok and Instagram 979 00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:47,990 and they take what they see to be true. 980 00:52:48,165 --> 00:52:50,863 The fact that we have put the leading news source 981 00:52:51,037 --> 00:52:54,432 for the most impressionable minds in our society, 982 00:52:54,606 --> 00:52:56,825 in the hands of our leading foreign adversary... 983 00:52:56,999 --> 00:52:59,176 Like, historians will remember that 984 00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:01,395 as a colossal strategic miscalculation 985 00:53:01,569 --> 00:53:03,049 that we will live to regret. 986 00:53:03,223 --> 00:53:06,313 MASTERS: Iran, North Korea, China 987 00:53:06,487 --> 00:53:09,795 and Russia are amongst the largest 988 00:53:09,969 --> 00:53:12,145 and perhaps most dangerous of those 989 00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:14,103 that are actively engaged in fomenting misinformation, 990 00:53:14,278 --> 00:53:15,801 disinformation, 991 00:53:15,975 --> 00:53:18,195 seeding the world of the online space 992 00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:20,327 with deepfakes 993 00:53:20,501 --> 00:53:24,853 and false narratives in order to sow division and distrust. 994 00:53:25,027 --> 00:53:28,814 It impacts the national security of-of our country 995 00:53:28,988 --> 00:53:31,077 and the stability of Western democracy. 996 00:53:31,251 --> 00:53:33,819 Raise your hands if you're a Zionist! 997 00:53:33,993 --> 00:53:35,647 OTHERS: Raise your hands if you're a Zionist! 998 00:53:35,821 --> 00:53:38,215 This is your chance to get out. 999 00:53:38,389 --> 00:53:40,042 REPORTER: Flags of terror groups 1000 00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:41,827 Hamas and Hezbollah were waved. 1001 00:53:42,001 --> 00:53:44,612 Another saying, "Long live October 7th." 1002 00:53:44,786 --> 00:53:49,356 Last year we had over 500 incidents reported to us 1003 00:53:49,530 --> 00:53:51,924 that occurred on college campuses. 1004 00:53:52,098 --> 00:53:56,276 That was a 141% increase from the year prior. 1005 00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,931 62% of those incidents 1006 00:53:59,105 --> 00:54:02,151 occurred in the three months post October 7th. 1007 00:54:02,326 --> 00:54:07,374 And that pace has not abated at all. 1008 00:54:08,070 --> 00:54:10,334 SEGAL: What we see online animates real-world activity 1009 00:54:10,508 --> 00:54:11,900 and both the online space 1010 00:54:12,074 --> 00:54:13,902 and the real-world space 1011 00:54:14,076 --> 00:54:16,470 are so brazen in terms of 1012 00:54:16,644 --> 00:54:19,299 their embrace of terrorist organizations 1013 00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:22,650 and of denial of Jewish suffering, 1014 00:54:22,824 --> 00:54:27,220 that my big concern is that somebody is going to get killed. 1015 00:54:27,394 --> 00:54:28,787 REPORTER: Violence that turns deadly 1016 00:54:28,961 --> 00:54:30,702 at a pro-Palestinian rally. 1017 00:54:30,876 --> 00:54:32,704 A Jewish man in his 60s seen here holding the flag 1018 00:54:32,878 --> 00:54:34,967 of Israel one moment, and the next 1019 00:54:35,141 --> 00:54:37,056 he's down on the ground bleeding 1020 00:54:37,230 --> 00:54:39,232 after being hit in the head with a megaphone. 1021 00:54:39,406 --> 00:54:41,539 MASTERS: In the last reporting period, 1022 00:54:41,713 --> 00:54:45,020 over 1,100 religiously motivated 1023 00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:47,066 hate crimes in the United States 1024 00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:48,850 are directed against the Jewish community. 1025 00:54:49,024 --> 00:54:52,071 The next highest group was under 150. 1026 00:54:52,245 --> 00:54:55,117 So there is no question by the data 1027 00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:58,512 that the Jewish community is the most targeted group 1028 00:54:58,686 --> 00:55:02,124 in the United States as a religious minority. 1029 00:55:03,125 --> 00:55:04,910 And we are a minority. 1030 00:55:05,084 --> 00:55:09,436 In the United States, we make up only 2.4% of the population, 1031 00:55:09,610 --> 00:55:13,962 but we are disproportionately targeted by hate and violence. 1032 00:55:14,136 --> 00:55:16,835 55% of all religiously motivated hate crimes 1033 00:55:17,009 --> 00:55:18,706 in the United States 1034 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,231 are directed against the Jewish community. 1035 00:55:27,846 --> 00:55:30,631 PROTESTORS : Free, free, free Palestine. 1036 00:55:33,460 --> 00:55:35,897 GREENBLATT: Jewish students were barricaded in the library 1037 00:55:36,071 --> 00:55:37,769 because of a mob outside 1038 00:55:37,943 --> 00:55:39,423 that banged on the doors 1039 00:55:39,597 --> 00:55:41,338 and yelled, "Globalize the intifada." 1040 00:55:43,122 --> 00:55:45,472 Freedom of speech is not the freedom 1041 00:55:45,646 --> 00:55:46,908 to incite violence. 1042 00:55:47,082 --> 00:55:48,780 Over the past few weeks at Cornell, 1043 00:55:48,954 --> 00:55:51,870 there's been a surge like never before 1044 00:55:52,044 --> 00:55:54,263 in anti-Semitic acts. 1045 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,266 AMANDA SILBERSTEIN: At Cornell, a student had posted 1046 00:55:57,441 --> 00:55:59,747 on a message board called Greekrank 1047 00:55:59,921 --> 00:56:02,794 that he wanted to attack Jews on campus, 1048 00:56:02,968 --> 00:56:05,405 to shoot up our kosher dining hall, 1049 00:56:05,579 --> 00:56:09,104 to gang-rape all Jew pig women on campus, 1050 00:56:09,278 --> 00:56:12,107 to follow Jews home and slit their throats. 1051 00:56:12,281 --> 00:56:14,022 TALIA DROR: We received advice 1052 00:56:14,196 --> 00:56:18,026 from police and administration to stay in our dorms 1053 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,029 because of potential security threats. 1054 00:56:21,203 --> 00:56:22,683 And essentially, everyone was just locked up 1055 00:56:22,857 --> 00:56:25,947 in their houses that night, terrified. 1056 00:56:27,035 --> 00:56:28,994 Two friends of mine and I 1057 00:56:29,168 --> 00:56:31,736 published an article in The New York Times 1058 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:33,912 entitled "What's Happening on Campuses Right Now 1059 00:56:34,086 --> 00:56:36,088 Isn't Free Speech." 1060 00:56:36,262 --> 00:56:38,656 We made our way around the news. 1061 00:56:38,830 --> 00:56:40,266 I mean, you had students 1062 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,050 fearing to go into the kosher dining hall 1063 00:56:42,224 --> 00:56:43,835 'cause they were afraid they were gonna get shot. 1064 00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:45,576 We spoke on multiple different shows 1065 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:48,492 about our personal experiences. 1066 00:56:48,666 --> 00:56:50,145 ... 1067 00:56:50,319 --> 00:56:52,887 My mother grew up in Iran. 1068 00:56:53,061 --> 00:56:56,630 She used to get slapped at school for being Jewish. 1069 00:56:56,804 --> 00:57:00,417 My grandfather was stabbed on a bus one day 1070 00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:03,245 after someone called him "a dirty Jew." 1071 00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:05,509 I should never have to walk around campus listening 1072 00:57:05,683 --> 00:57:09,817 to my peers scream that I and my family should be killed. 1073 00:57:09,991 --> 00:57:11,776 - And that's happening? - Yes. 1074 00:57:11,950 --> 00:57:13,299 - At Cornell? - Yes. 1075 00:57:13,473 --> 00:57:14,909 DROR: My mom always says that 1076 00:57:15,083 --> 00:57:17,521 the hardest thing right now 1077 00:57:17,695 --> 00:57:21,873 is watching me go through 1078 00:57:22,047 --> 00:57:24,441 inherent Jew hatred 1079 00:57:24,615 --> 00:57:27,879 after she abandoned everything to come to a country 1080 00:57:28,053 --> 00:57:30,621 where she didn't think she would have to deal with that. 1081 00:57:30,795 --> 00:57:33,841 After all the news appearances, I was reached out to by someone 1082 00:57:34,015 --> 00:57:37,105 in D.C. calling me to testify. 1083 00:57:37,279 --> 00:57:39,717 Universities have failed to uphold 1084 00:57:39,891 --> 00:57:43,155 their self-proclaimed values of equity and belonging 1085 00:57:43,329 --> 00:57:45,592 when it comes to Jewish students. 1086 00:57:45,766 --> 00:57:48,552 I really wanted to communicate what it was like 1087 00:57:48,726 --> 00:57:51,250 to be a student when you're watching 1088 00:57:51,424 --> 00:57:54,035 350 people in front of you 1089 00:57:54,209 --> 00:57:56,516 scream that Jews should be killed 1090 00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:58,562 for Palestinian liberation. 1091 00:57:58,736 --> 00:58:00,868 This atmosphere is intolerable. 1092 00:58:01,042 --> 00:58:04,306 Jewish students do not believe that the MIT administration 1093 00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:07,484 has done an adequate job to make students feel safe on campus. 1094 00:58:07,658 --> 00:58:08,963 MIT is not doing anything 1095 00:58:09,137 --> 00:58:10,312 to make anybody feel safe on campus 1096 00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:11,879 is the problem. 1097 00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:15,492 And the fact that they're unwilling to say 1098 00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:18,407 there are ten times more anti-Semitic incidents 1099 00:58:18,582 --> 00:58:21,759 happening on MIT's campus than Islamophobic incidents. 1100 00:58:21,933 --> 00:58:25,240 It's not saying that we value Jewish students more, it's not. 1101 00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,025 It's just saying this is a bigger problem 1102 00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:28,505 that we need to focus on. 1103 00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,419 My mother is Jewish 1104 00:58:30,594 --> 00:58:34,380 and my father is an Afghan Muslim from Afghanistan. 1105 00:58:34,554 --> 00:58:36,338 Obviously, as the daughter of a Muslim, 1106 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:39,385 and half of my family is Muslim, 1107 00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:41,822 I totally empathize with people who are hijabi, for example, 1108 00:58:41,996 --> 00:58:43,476 being scared. 1109 00:58:43,650 --> 00:58:47,959 But it's-- it's not an either-or. 1110 00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:50,265 President Kornbluth, 1111 00:58:50,439 --> 00:58:53,312 please let me go back to being a scientist. 1112 00:58:53,486 --> 00:58:55,488 Let me go back to being a student. 1113 00:58:55,662 --> 00:58:57,925 I don't want to have to keep advocating 1114 00:58:58,099 --> 00:59:00,319 for Jewish student safety on campus. 1115 00:59:00,493 --> 00:59:02,974 It's not my job. It's your job. 1116 00:59:03,148 --> 00:59:05,803 Please do your job and act now. 1117 00:59:05,977 --> 00:59:09,546 And if you can't, I'm asking Congress to do it for you. 1118 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,243 Thank you. 1119 00:59:11,417 --> 00:59:12,940 There's no way we're gonna get any change 1120 00:59:13,114 --> 00:59:16,509 unless people from the top, you know, 1121 00:59:16,683 --> 00:59:19,338 people from the White House, people from Capitol Hill, 1122 00:59:19,512 --> 00:59:21,296 bring these university presidents 1123 00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:23,037 to the principal's office. 1124 00:59:23,211 --> 00:59:26,214 ELISE STEFANIK: Dr. Kornbluth, at MIT, 1125 00:59:26,388 --> 00:59:28,173 does calling for the genocide of Jews 1126 00:59:28,347 --> 00:59:31,045 violate MIT's code of conduct 1127 00:59:31,219 --> 00:59:33,744 or rules regarding bullying and harassment, yes or no? 1128 00:59:33,918 --> 00:59:36,398 I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews 1129 00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:38,313 - on our campus. - But you've heard chants 1130 00:59:38,487 --> 00:59:40,315 for intifada. 1131 00:59:40,489 --> 00:59:43,188 I've heard chants, which can be anti-Semitic 1132 00:59:43,362 --> 00:59:44,755 depending on the context. 1133 00:59:44,929 --> 00:59:47,584 It is a context-dependent decision, Congresswoman. 1134 00:59:47,758 --> 00:59:49,194 Depending on the context. 1135 00:59:49,368 --> 00:59:51,109 What's the context? 1136 00:59:51,283 --> 00:59:53,241 - Targeted as-- at an individual. - It's targeted 1137 00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:56,549 at Jewish students, Jewish individuals. 1138 00:59:59,334 --> 01:00:01,423 GALLOWAY: We saw really well-educated, 1139 01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:02,729 highly esteemed, very intelligent 1140 01:00:02,903 --> 01:00:04,557 university presidents 1141 01:00:04,731 --> 01:00:07,038 unable to condemn 1142 01:00:07,212 --> 01:00:10,563 language that calls for genocide. 1143 01:00:10,737 --> 01:00:13,000 And in a different setting, if they'd been asked, 1144 01:00:13,174 --> 01:00:16,961 well, if people started chanting "Lynch the Blacks," 1145 01:00:17,135 --> 01:00:20,051 they would have had no problem finding the words to say, 1146 01:00:20,225 --> 01:00:21,661 "This is unacceptable." 1147 01:00:21,835 --> 01:00:24,098 It just would've been unacceptable, full stop. 1148 01:00:24,272 --> 01:00:27,058 It wouldn't have been context-dependent. 1149 01:00:27,232 --> 01:00:30,931 So we've gotten to a point where the hard-fought victories 1150 01:00:31,105 --> 01:00:34,805 against racism, against bigotry, against persecution 1151 01:00:34,979 --> 01:00:38,243 don't apply to this small group of people. 1152 01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:41,159 DAVIDAI: We see these videos 1153 01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:42,856 of book burnings in Germany 1154 01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:45,250 and we're shocked by that. 1155 01:00:45,424 --> 01:00:46,860 Where did those books come from? 1156 01:00:47,034 --> 01:00:49,428 They came from university libraries. 1157 01:00:49,602 --> 01:00:52,431 Who brought those books out from the library? 1158 01:00:52,605 --> 01:00:55,042 Student organizations. Who looked the other way? 1159 01:00:55,216 --> 01:00:58,089 The administration and the presidents. 1160 01:00:58,263 --> 01:01:00,831 NEWSCASTER: The University of Pennsylvania president 1161 01:01:01,005 --> 01:01:02,833 has resigned. 1162 01:01:03,007 --> 01:01:04,878 REPORTER: Harvard president Claudine Gay has announced 1163 01:01:05,052 --> 01:01:07,228 she is resigning from office. 1164 01:01:07,402 --> 01:01:09,143 WOLPE: Over the past 30 years, 1165 01:01:09,317 --> 01:01:12,407 these universities have geared up to make sure 1166 01:01:12,581 --> 01:01:15,759 nobody is anti-LGBTQ, nobody is anti-Black. 1167 01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:20,851 But the idea that anti-Semitism was in that same category 1168 01:01:21,025 --> 01:01:24,768 was foreign to many of them, and they wouldn't see it 1169 01:01:24,942 --> 01:01:28,641 even though the evidence stared them in the face. 1170 01:01:30,382 --> 01:01:31,644 STUDENTS: Rape is rape! 1171 01:01:31,818 --> 01:01:33,820 Rape is rape! 1172 01:01:33,994 --> 01:01:37,041 Rape is rape! Rape is rape! 1173 01:01:37,215 --> 01:01:39,478 Rape is rape! 1174 01:01:58,105 --> 01:02:00,891 Me too, unless you are a Jew! 1175 01:02:01,065 --> 01:02:03,502 One of the least-discussed atrocities 1176 01:02:03,676 --> 01:02:06,418 in the October 7th Hamas attack on Israel 1177 01:02:06,592 --> 01:02:09,203 is coming into horrifying focus tonight. 1178 01:02:09,377 --> 01:02:13,294 Stories of women sexually assaulted and brutally killed. 1179 01:02:13,468 --> 01:02:16,776 RUTH HALPERIN-KADDARI: Immediately after October 7th, 1180 01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:20,214 it was clear to me that sexual violence 1181 01:02:20,388 --> 01:02:23,043 was also part of the massacre. 1182 01:02:23,217 --> 01:02:28,353 On the-the Monday following that Saturday of October 7th, 1183 01:02:28,527 --> 01:02:32,618 we gathered more than 800 signatures 1184 01:02:32,792 --> 01:02:35,490 of international gender and law professors 1185 01:02:35,664 --> 01:02:37,754 from all over the world. 1186 01:02:37,928 --> 01:02:43,585 We requested U.N. agencies-- and U.N. Women, of course-- 1187 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:48,329 that they issue statements condemning Hamas. 1188 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,988 But the statements that came out 1189 01:02:55,162 --> 01:02:58,426 were extremely disappointing, 1190 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,690 especially U.N. Women, 1191 01:03:01,865 --> 01:03:05,999 who resorted to familiar symmetry 1192 01:03:06,173 --> 01:03:09,046 between the two sides of the conflict. 1193 01:03:11,048 --> 01:03:13,485 The report that they issued 1194 01:03:13,659 --> 01:03:17,402 hardly even mentioned Israeli women. 1195 01:03:19,404 --> 01:03:22,973 Proper comparison should be 1196 01:03:23,147 --> 01:03:26,237 to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. 1197 01:03:26,411 --> 01:03:28,282 Global outrage grew today 1198 01:03:28,456 --> 01:03:32,591 as more horrific revelations surfaced from Bucha, Ukraine. 1199 01:03:32,765 --> 01:03:35,681 HALPERIN-KADDARI: After the Bucha massacre, 1200 01:03:35,855 --> 01:03:40,294 you see that U.N. Women reacted immediately, within days. 1201 01:03:40,468 --> 01:03:42,557 There was no need to wait 1202 01:03:42,731 --> 01:03:46,474 for firsthand accounts. 1203 01:03:46,648 --> 01:03:49,608 They immediately called for investigation 1204 01:03:49,782 --> 01:03:54,004 and called for a resolute condemnation. 1205 01:03:54,178 --> 01:03:57,355 And that didn't happen after October 7th. 1206 01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:01,838 MICHAL COTLER-WUNSH: Women of the world united 1207 01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:04,666 around #MeToo and "we believe you." 1208 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:09,715 #MeToo, unless you're a Jew/Zionist/live in Israel. 1209 01:04:10,716 --> 01:04:13,240 That is the ultimate, 1210 01:04:13,414 --> 01:04:16,026 most painful double standard. 1211 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,246 FAY: Their silence was not surprising to me. 1212 01:04:19,420 --> 01:04:21,422 Even at my school, 1213 01:04:21,596 --> 01:04:25,731 the refusal of my Barnard sisterhood 1214 01:04:25,905 --> 01:04:29,256 to support the women who had been raped 1215 01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:30,692 and sexually assaulted 1216 01:04:30,867 --> 01:04:33,173 was incredibly shocking to me. 1217 01:04:33,347 --> 01:04:38,222 If an all-women's college cannot support 1218 01:04:38,396 --> 01:04:40,093 our fellow women around the world 1219 01:04:40,267 --> 01:04:41,878 because we're Jewish, 1220 01:04:42,052 --> 01:04:43,705 it really, if nothing else, showed me 1221 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,925 that I truly did not know 1222 01:04:46,099 --> 01:04:49,668 what anti-Semitism was before October 7th. 1223 01:04:51,931 --> 01:04:53,324 DAYANI: What is the point 1224 01:04:53,498 --> 01:04:55,195 of you sitting this one out? 1225 01:04:55,369 --> 01:04:57,154 Do we say 1226 01:04:57,328 --> 01:04:59,199 some people's suffering is more valuable than others? 1227 01:04:59,373 --> 01:05:01,201 That certain victims deserve more rights than others? 1228 01:05:01,375 --> 01:05:04,378 Like, either you say, "We believe women," 1229 01:05:04,552 --> 01:05:05,902 and then you believe all women. 1230 01:05:06,076 --> 01:05:07,555 When you say, "we stand for women," 1231 01:05:07,729 --> 01:05:09,601 and then you stand for all women, 1232 01:05:09,775 --> 01:05:11,820 or do you just get to sit there and choose? 1233 01:05:13,692 --> 01:05:15,520 SHERYL SANDBERG: As the reports started to come out 1234 01:05:15,694 --> 01:05:17,130 about the sexual violence, 1235 01:05:17,304 --> 01:05:18,915 and people weren't speaking out, you know, 1236 01:05:19,089 --> 01:05:21,874 I did what I know how to do: I wrote an op-ed. 1237 01:05:22,048 --> 01:05:24,833 And my husband said to me, "We should make a video," 1238 01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:27,140 so, over a weekend, we made a video. 1239 01:05:27,314 --> 01:05:28,968 No matter 1240 01:05:29,142 --> 01:05:31,797 which marches you attend, which religion you practice, 1241 01:05:31,971 --> 01:05:35,105 or none at all, there is one thing we should all agree on: 1242 01:05:35,279 --> 01:05:38,891 rape should never be used as an act of war. 1243 01:05:39,065 --> 01:05:40,327 U.N. Women, it was like 1244 01:05:40,501 --> 01:05:43,940 their core job to speak out 1245 01:05:44,114 --> 01:05:46,768 on any international situation on women, so for them, 1246 01:05:46,943 --> 01:05:49,336 late is totally unacceptable. 1247 01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:53,558 DAYANI: At this point, it has been 1248 01:05:53,732 --> 01:05:55,864 well over 50 days since the attack. 1249 01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,215 There were so many women's organizations 1250 01:05:58,389 --> 01:06:00,782 that had not said a word. 1251 01:06:00,957 --> 01:06:04,743 So, we had to call this session at the United Nations. 1252 01:06:04,917 --> 01:06:06,788 We had to force their hand. 1253 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:08,921 ... 1254 01:06:15,319 --> 01:06:18,061 HALPERIN-KADDARI: It took them almost eight weeks 1255 01:06:18,235 --> 01:06:21,673 after the attack to acknowledge 1256 01:06:21,847 --> 01:06:24,241 that there are concerning reports 1257 01:06:24,415 --> 01:06:29,376 of severe sexual violence and sexual atrocities. 1258 01:06:34,207 --> 01:06:37,776 DAYANI: What is it about these women and girls 1259 01:06:37,950 --> 01:06:40,039 that makes them so unworthy 1260 01:06:40,213 --> 01:06:43,521 of your otherwise limitless capacity for outrage, 1261 01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:45,958 solidarity and justice? 1262 01:06:46,132 --> 01:06:51,007 Once again, I am afraid the reason is quite simple. 1263 01:06:51,181 --> 01:06:52,617 Because they're Jews. 1264 01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,794 We have come so far in establishing 1265 01:06:55,968 --> 01:06:58,188 that rape is a crime against humanity. 1266 01:06:58,362 --> 01:06:59,667 And we have come so far 1267 01:06:59,841 --> 01:07:02,496 in believing survivors of sexual assault 1268 01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:05,108 in so many situations. 1269 01:07:05,282 --> 01:07:10,069 That's why the silence on these war crimes is dangerous. 1270 01:07:10,243 --> 01:07:11,462 I think one of the most important things 1271 01:07:11,636 --> 01:07:13,246 that happened at the U.N. 1272 01:07:13,420 --> 01:07:16,728 was not just people who were Jewish speaking out, 1273 01:07:16,902 --> 01:07:19,644 but the people who really are the allies and joined us. 1274 01:07:21,211 --> 01:07:23,909 When I saw the list of women's rights organizations 1275 01:07:24,083 --> 01:07:27,608 who have said nothing, I nearly choked. 1276 01:07:27,782 --> 01:07:29,219 I think it's shocking. 1277 01:07:29,393 --> 01:07:32,657 I am mystified 1278 01:07:32,831 --> 01:07:34,398 by the lack of solidarity 1279 01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:37,140 for women's rights by women's rights organizations. 1280 01:07:37,314 --> 01:07:40,665 That, in some way, Israeli women don't count 1281 01:07:40,839 --> 01:07:42,971 or are not women or are not human. 1282 01:07:44,234 --> 01:07:47,193 There's no room for doing nothing. 1283 01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:49,630 ... 1284 01:07:55,897 --> 01:07:58,030 VEKSLER: On February 25th, I got a message 1285 01:07:58,204 --> 01:07:59,901 that there was a sign on the door 1286 01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:01,642 of the multicultural center 1287 01:08:01,816 --> 01:08:03,862 that said "Zionists not allowed." 1288 01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:08,823 The Jewish community obviously was freaking out about this. 1289 01:08:08,997 --> 01:08:10,434 Not only because of the irony of this happening 1290 01:08:10,608 --> 01:08:12,523 at a multicultural center 1291 01:08:12,697 --> 01:08:15,308 but because it was scary. 1292 01:08:15,482 --> 01:08:17,180 The next morning, the Jewish students chose to go, 1293 01:08:17,354 --> 01:08:19,182 and they chose to sit in the exact room 1294 01:08:19,356 --> 01:08:22,054 where they were told they were not allowed to be. 1295 01:08:25,405 --> 01:08:27,146 Half of the room was Jewish students doing their homework, 1296 01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,105 and then the other half 1297 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:32,934 was a bunch of students wrapped in keffiyehs making posters. 1298 01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,849 I went to the side of the room with the keffiyehs 1299 01:08:35,023 --> 01:08:36,547 because I wanted to understand 1300 01:08:36,721 --> 01:08:38,549 what they were trying to accomplish. 1301 01:08:38,723 --> 01:08:40,159 And while I was trying to speak 1302 01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:43,249 to these students very calmly, they were trying 1303 01:08:43,423 --> 01:08:45,164 to intimidate me to get me out of the room. 1304 01:08:45,338 --> 01:08:47,166 So what they started to do was to make posters 1305 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:50,604 targeting me directly with my full name. 1306 01:08:50,778 --> 01:08:53,564 "Tessa Veksler supports genocide." 1307 01:08:55,566 --> 01:08:58,830 "You can run, but you can't hide, Tessa Veksler." 1308 01:08:59,004 --> 01:09:01,180 After that, I mean, it only got worse. 1309 01:09:01,354 --> 01:09:04,966 I remember getting a text at, like, 2:00 a.m., 1310 01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:08,144 "There's people walking around in masks, 1311 01:09:08,318 --> 01:09:11,756 putting flyers in mailboxes near your house." 1312 01:09:13,671 --> 01:09:17,065 UCSB is investigating signs and social media posts 1313 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,417 that appear to single out the student body president. 1314 01:09:20,591 --> 01:09:23,768 I honestly thought that administration was on my side. 1315 01:09:23,942 --> 01:09:25,552 They issued a couple of statements, 1316 01:09:25,726 --> 01:09:28,425 but nothing about me directly. 1317 01:09:28,599 --> 01:09:31,689 The urgency of this situation cannot be overstated. 1318 01:09:31,863 --> 01:09:34,996 We must act decisively and demand accountability 1319 01:09:35,171 --> 01:09:39,392 to ensure the safety and well-being of all students. 1320 01:09:39,566 --> 01:09:42,874 I, Tessa Veksler, will not stand for this on my campus, 1321 01:09:43,048 --> 01:09:46,312 in my community or in my workplace. 1322 01:09:47,008 --> 01:09:48,445 Want to see what Rutgers Jewish students 1323 01:09:48,619 --> 01:09:49,402 dealt with last night? 1324 01:09:49,576 --> 01:09:50,882 Watch this. 1325 01:09:51,056 --> 01:09:53,711 STUDENT: All Zionists are racists! 1326 01:09:53,885 --> 01:09:56,670 STUDENTS: All Zionists are racists! 1327 01:09:56,844 --> 01:09:58,977 STUDENT: We don't want two states... 1328 01:09:59,151 --> 01:10:00,718 SCHANZER: We now are in a situation 1329 01:10:00,892 --> 01:10:04,025 where Jewish students on campus feel unsafe. 1330 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,116 They feel attacked, they feel alienated and ostracized, 1331 01:10:08,291 --> 01:10:12,991 and it is because of this growing movement of anti-Zionism 1332 01:10:13,165 --> 01:10:16,124 that has taken on a different life 1333 01:10:16,299 --> 01:10:18,562 since the October 7th attacks. 1334 01:10:18,736 --> 01:10:21,782 ... 1335 01:10:25,177 --> 01:10:28,702 TISHBY: The first phase of anti-Semitism is peoplehood. 1336 01:10:28,876 --> 01:10:33,316 There are reports of Alexandria, 300 BC, 1337 01:10:33,490 --> 01:10:36,014 of people saying, "Who is this weird people?" 1338 01:10:36,188 --> 01:10:38,146 When Christianity appeared, 1339 01:10:38,321 --> 01:10:40,714 anti-Semitism turned into religious anti-Semitism. 1340 01:10:40,888 --> 01:10:43,935 So, the whole concept of "the Jews killed Christ." 1341 01:10:44,109 --> 01:10:45,763 It was all about religious persecution 1342 01:10:45,937 --> 01:10:47,112 of the Jewish people. 1343 01:10:47,286 --> 01:10:49,854 Then anti-Semitism morphed again, 1344 01:10:50,028 --> 01:10:52,552 into racial anti-Semitism. 1345 01:10:52,726 --> 01:10:54,902 The tricky part about that shape-shifting 1346 01:10:55,076 --> 01:10:56,643 is that you can't convert out of it. 1347 01:10:56,817 --> 01:10:58,732 So once you're racially Jewish, it doesn't matter 1348 01:10:58,906 --> 01:11:01,387 what percentage of Jew you have in you, you're done. 1349 01:11:01,561 --> 01:11:02,997 That was the third iteration. 1350 01:11:03,171 --> 01:11:05,173 Obviously, it created the Holocaust. 1351 01:11:05,348 --> 01:11:07,175 The fourth iteration of anti-Semitism is anti-Zionism. 1352 01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:09,352 PROTESTOR: Smash the settler Zionist state! 1353 01:11:09,526 --> 01:11:11,354 PROTESTORS : Smash the settler Zionist state! 1354 01:11:11,528 --> 01:11:14,574 PROTESTOR: Smash-smash the settler Zionist state! 1355 01:11:14,748 --> 01:11:16,359 SENOR: Once you normalize 1356 01:11:16,533 --> 01:11:17,751 Zionism equals apartheid, 1357 01:11:17,925 --> 01:11:20,667 Zionism equals genocide, 1358 01:11:20,841 --> 01:11:22,365 and that person is a Zionist, 1359 01:11:22,539 --> 01:11:24,323 "then I can do a lot to that person." 1360 01:11:24,497 --> 01:11:26,064 That justifies a lot. 1361 01:11:28,153 --> 01:11:29,937 And attacking that person, in any way I choose 1362 01:11:30,111 --> 01:11:32,070 to attack them becomes defensible. 1363 01:11:32,244 --> 01:11:34,246 Zionists don't deserve to live. 1364 01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:37,380 The existence of Nazis, white supremacists, 1365 01:11:37,554 --> 01:11:40,121 Zionists-- these are all the same people-- 1366 01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:42,254 the existence of them... 1367 01:12:03,101 --> 01:12:05,364 The anti-Semitism we see from the left 1368 01:12:05,538 --> 01:12:08,367 doesn't surprise me, 'cause I've been tracking it for years. 1369 01:12:08,541 --> 01:12:11,414 But I used to talk about a political spectrum 1370 01:12:11,588 --> 01:12:13,894 from far right to far left and where you find 1371 01:12:14,068 --> 01:12:16,244 the anti-Semitism on the political spectrum. 1372 01:12:16,419 --> 01:12:19,552 I've changed that. I now talk about a horseshoe. 1373 01:12:19,726 --> 01:12:22,425 And you know, the two ends of a horseshoe are magnetic. 1374 01:12:22,599 --> 01:12:24,688 And you would think, how would the far, far left 1375 01:12:24,862 --> 01:12:27,430 and the far, far right share views on anything? 1376 01:12:27,604 --> 01:12:30,041 They don't, except in this regard. 1377 01:12:31,956 --> 01:12:33,653 TISHBY: In recent years, when I would try to tell people 1378 01:12:33,827 --> 01:12:36,569 that anti-Zionism is the worst part of anti-Semitism today, 1379 01:12:36,743 --> 01:12:39,485 they would point out to an easy-to-identify 1380 01:12:39,659 --> 01:12:42,749 anti-Semitism like Marjorie Taylor Greene. 1381 01:12:45,404 --> 01:12:47,928 It's very easy for every one of us to be like, 1382 01:12:48,102 --> 01:12:50,061 "Oh, yeah, that's anti-Semitism." 1383 01:12:51,062 --> 01:12:52,629 Or "Jews will not replace us." 1384 01:12:55,762 --> 01:12:58,069 That's overtly right-wing anti-Semitism. 1385 01:12:58,243 --> 01:12:59,766 We understand this, we know this. 1386 01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:03,204 It's very easy for us to point that out. 1387 01:13:03,379 --> 01:13:04,902 But what was very difficult for a lot of people 1388 01:13:05,076 --> 01:13:08,122 in polite society is to identify what it changed to today. 1389 01:13:08,296 --> 01:13:10,647 ... 1390 01:13:12,823 --> 01:13:16,522 DAYANI: We have raised this generation 1391 01:13:16,696 --> 01:13:20,439 to stand up against social injustice. 1392 01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:24,269 And I think that they have understood 1393 01:13:24,443 --> 01:13:27,228 a lot of oppression through a construct of race. 1394 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:29,448 That construct does not apply to the Middle East. 1395 01:13:29,622 --> 01:13:33,844 Like, I am not white, and most people in Israel are not white. 1396 01:13:36,237 --> 01:13:40,328 Hey, this is me, the Zionist Israeli. 1397 01:13:40,503 --> 01:13:44,420 The white colonialist, settler, occupier. 1398 01:13:44,594 --> 01:13:49,163 When you describe Zionism as this white imperialist idea, 1399 01:13:49,337 --> 01:13:53,994 you actively delete the history of Black and brown Jews. 1400 01:13:55,213 --> 01:13:56,693 My name is Ashager, 1401 01:13:56,867 --> 01:14:01,045 I'm 33 years old, uh, I live in Tel Aviv. 1402 01:14:01,219 --> 01:14:03,526 I educate people about Israel, 1403 01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:05,528 about the Ethiopian Jewish community. 1404 01:14:05,702 --> 01:14:09,532 Uh, I tell stories of my family, my community, 1405 01:14:09,706 --> 01:14:12,839 in order to connect people to who we are as people. 1406 01:14:14,014 --> 01:14:16,016 My family came from Ethiopia, 1407 01:14:16,190 --> 01:14:19,890 my grandparents looked like any other Ethiopian. 1408 01:14:20,064 --> 01:14:25,330 But their Black skin didn't protect them from anti-Semitism. 1409 01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:27,506 They were still looked at as "the Jews." 1410 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,727 They were treated as "Jews," they were othering 1411 01:14:30,901 --> 01:14:33,643 by their own society, by people who look like them. 1412 01:14:33,817 --> 01:14:37,516 So, a lot of people that I meet who ask me to choose, 1413 01:14:37,690 --> 01:14:42,042 what are you, Black or Jewish? Black or Jewish? 1414 01:14:42,216 --> 01:14:44,958 Like one comes at the expense of another. 1415 01:14:45,132 --> 01:14:46,786 To be Black and Jewish, 1416 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,877 you live in this intersection of identities. 1417 01:14:51,051 --> 01:14:53,053 When BLM said, "You cannot be 1418 01:14:53,227 --> 01:14:55,795 pro-Black lives and be a Zionist," 1419 01:14:55,969 --> 01:14:58,015 you were saying to me, 1420 01:14:58,189 --> 01:15:00,408 "You have to choose one of your identities." 1421 01:15:01,453 --> 01:15:02,933 Like, either you accept me, 1422 01:15:03,107 --> 01:15:04,587 me being Black and me being Jewish. 1423 01:15:04,761 --> 01:15:06,763 That's it, I'm not gonna give up 1424 01:15:06,937 --> 01:15:09,113 on any identity that I have. 1425 01:15:09,287 --> 01:15:11,768 I am both at the same time. That's it. 1426 01:15:11,942 --> 01:15:14,074 ... 1427 01:15:19,384 --> 01:15:21,081 FAY: Before October 7th, 1428 01:15:21,255 --> 01:15:23,736 I thought we were all on the same page, 1429 01:15:23,910 --> 01:15:26,130 that I am supported 1430 01:15:26,304 --> 01:15:28,219 because I'm Black, because I'm a woman, 1431 01:15:28,393 --> 01:15:30,787 because I'm Native American and because I'm Jewish. 1432 01:15:30,961 --> 01:15:33,180 But as I've now seen, 1433 01:15:33,354 --> 01:15:36,444 this-this never included my Jewish identity. 1434 01:15:36,619 --> 01:15:40,710 I know what it's like to be discriminated against. 1435 01:15:40,884 --> 01:15:43,626 Nobody would've questioned me if I were to say, 1436 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,412 as a Black woman, I-I'm feeling as though I am being aggressed. 1437 01:15:47,586 --> 01:15:50,197 And I'm telling you now, that is what I'm facing. 1438 01:15:50,371 --> 01:15:52,460 So why are you not listening to me? 1439 01:15:55,551 --> 01:15:58,075 These ideas had been germinating in the ivory tower 1440 01:15:58,249 --> 01:15:59,729 for a very long time. 1441 01:15:59,903 --> 01:16:02,906 And I remember encountering these ideas 1442 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,777 from the very first days 1443 01:16:04,951 --> 01:16:07,258 when I was a student at Columbia University. 1444 01:16:07,432 --> 01:16:09,347 I was a political progressive. 1445 01:16:09,521 --> 01:16:13,873 I was, you know, dating women, I was pro-choice. 1446 01:16:14,047 --> 01:16:16,136 I was all of the things that I thought made me 1447 01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:21,446 totally part of progressive milieu, let's say, on campus. 1448 01:16:21,620 --> 01:16:24,754 But what I was encountering was an ideology that said to me, 1449 01:16:24,928 --> 01:16:27,365 "No, no, you're not part of us." 1450 01:16:27,539 --> 01:16:30,324 And the reason that I wasn't part of them was because I was 1451 01:16:30,498 --> 01:16:34,198 unabashed in my support of Israel. 1452 01:16:35,808 --> 01:16:38,594 I was hearing that in order to be accepted 1453 01:16:38,768 --> 01:16:40,900 into the groups that traveled under the banner 1454 01:16:41,074 --> 01:16:43,250 of progress and social justice, 1455 01:16:43,424 --> 01:16:45,426 I was gonna have to disavow something 1456 01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:48,299 that was absolutely fundamental to my Jewish identity, 1457 01:16:48,473 --> 01:16:50,301 and I would argue, the Jewish identity 1458 01:16:50,475 --> 01:16:53,478 of the vast majority of Jews in the world. 1459 01:16:55,001 --> 01:16:56,481 TISHBY: It's very important to understand 1460 01:16:56,655 --> 01:17:00,354 why Zionism is a big part of who we are. 1461 01:17:00,528 --> 01:17:02,400 Judaism, it's an indigenous religion 1462 01:17:02,574 --> 01:17:04,358 that is inseparable from a place, 1463 01:17:04,532 --> 01:17:06,273 from a land, from a country. 1464 01:17:06,447 --> 01:17:07,971 For thousands of years, 1465 01:17:08,145 --> 01:17:10,060 we were saying, "Next year in Jerusalem." 1466 01:17:10,234 --> 01:17:12,105 That's connected to a place. 1467 01:17:12,279 --> 01:17:14,238 We became a people in that place. 1468 01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:20,070 So there is no separating Zionism from Judaism. 1469 01:17:20,244 --> 01:17:23,639 GREENBLATT: Zionism is not some philosophical idea 1470 01:17:23,813 --> 01:17:26,729 just born out of the 19th century. 1471 01:17:26,903 --> 01:17:30,167 Zionism is a Jewish value 1472 01:17:30,341 --> 01:17:31,995 that's 3,000 years old. 1473 01:17:32,169 --> 01:17:33,692 There's a reason why, 1474 01:17:33,866 --> 01:17:36,739 at every synagogue on the planet Earth, 1475 01:17:36,913 --> 01:17:40,003 Jews pray toward the east, toward Jerusalem. 1476 01:17:40,177 --> 01:17:43,571 There's a reason why, in every prayer book, 1477 01:17:43,746 --> 01:17:46,270 there are words like "Eretz Yisrael," 1478 01:17:46,444 --> 01:17:48,446 or "Yerushalaim" or "Zion." 1479 01:17:48,620 --> 01:17:52,624 So the return to Zion is not new. 1480 01:17:52,798 --> 01:17:55,888 It is as old as the Jewish people. 1481 01:17:56,062 --> 01:17:58,151 EMILY SCHRADER: Zionism does not negate 1482 01:17:58,325 --> 01:18:00,458 the existence of the state of Palestine, 1483 01:18:00,632 --> 01:18:03,940 it does not deny anyone else's right to exist inherently. 1484 01:18:04,114 --> 01:18:06,551 It is not mutually exclusive. 1485 01:18:06,725 --> 01:18:11,077 It is simply a civil rights movement for the Jewish people. 1486 01:18:11,251 --> 01:18:14,951 VIDINO: The definition of-of any form of bigotry 1487 01:18:15,125 --> 01:18:18,302 is exceptionalizing or applying a different standard 1488 01:18:18,476 --> 01:18:20,260 to a different population. 1489 01:18:20,434 --> 01:18:22,306 So if any people have a right of self-determination, 1490 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:26,789 a right of creating a-a country, a homeland for-for themselves, 1491 01:18:26,963 --> 01:18:28,399 that's what Zionism is. 1492 01:18:28,573 --> 01:18:30,793 So, if we say that Jews are the only people 1493 01:18:30,967 --> 01:18:33,839 that don't have that right, that becomes anti-Semitism. 1494 01:18:34,013 --> 01:18:35,232 DEMONSTRATORS: Free, free Palestine! 1495 01:18:35,406 --> 01:18:37,103 Free, free Palestine! 1496 01:18:37,277 --> 01:18:38,496 - Free, free Palestine! - MAN: Hey! 1497 01:18:38,670 --> 01:18:40,237 EINAT WILF: When anti-Zionism 1498 01:18:40,411 --> 01:18:42,500 becomes the defining feature of a society, 1499 01:18:42,674 --> 01:18:45,633 what happens to Jews? Practically. 1500 01:18:45,808 --> 01:18:48,854 And here, the record is clear. 1501 01:18:49,028 --> 01:18:53,250 As soon as anti-Zionism became the ideology 1502 01:18:53,424 --> 01:18:58,298 of the Arab world in the '30s and '40s and '50s, 1503 01:18:58,472 --> 01:19:00,387 no Jews were left. 1504 01:19:00,561 --> 01:19:02,912 And you are talking about Jewish communities 1505 01:19:03,086 --> 01:19:06,045 that predated the Arab and Muslim conquests 1506 01:19:06,219 --> 01:19:10,093 of North Africa and the Levant in the Middle East. 1507 01:19:10,267 --> 01:19:12,660 And the mechanism is always the same. 1508 01:19:12,835 --> 01:19:14,401 They say, "We have nothing against Jews. 1509 01:19:14,575 --> 01:19:17,317 It's not about Jews, it's only Zionists," 1510 01:19:17,491 --> 01:19:21,931 but then they blame Jews for harboring Zionist sympathies. 1511 01:19:22,105 --> 01:19:24,237 And then they turn on the Jews, 1512 01:19:24,411 --> 01:19:26,936 and the Jews understand and they leave. 1513 01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:28,415 And the same thing that we're seeing right now 1514 01:19:28,589 --> 01:19:30,374 on American campuses. 1515 01:19:30,548 --> 01:19:34,813 When anti-Zionism begins to become a dominant feature 1516 01:19:34,987 --> 01:19:38,599 of campus ideology, of academic ideology, 1517 01:19:38,774 --> 01:19:42,995 the environment turns hostile to Jewish life. 1518 01:19:44,170 --> 01:19:45,606 JAMES: We have Zionists... 1519 01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:46,999 PROTESTORS: We have Zionists... 1520 01:19:47,173 --> 01:19:48,827 JAMES: ...who have entered the camp. 1521 01:19:49,001 --> 01:19:50,655 PROTESTORS: ...who have entered the camp. 1522 01:19:50,829 --> 01:19:53,136 JAMES: We are going to create a human chain... 1523 01:19:53,310 --> 01:19:55,573 PROTESTORS: We are going to create a human chain... 1524 01:19:55,747 --> 01:19:57,618 JAMES: ...so that we can... 1525 01:19:57,793 --> 01:19:59,098 PROTESTORS: ...so that we can... 1526 01:19:59,272 --> 01:20:00,491 JAMES: ...start to push them... 1527 01:20:00,665 --> 01:20:02,101 PROTESTORS: ...start to push them... 1528 01:20:02,275 --> 01:20:03,581 JAMES: ...out of the camp. 1529 01:20:03,755 --> 01:20:05,148 PROTESTORS: ...out of the camp. 1530 01:20:05,322 --> 01:20:06,584 JAMES: One step forward. 1531 01:20:06,758 --> 01:20:09,500 PROTESTORS: One step forward. 1532 01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:11,284 JAMES: Another step forward. 1533 01:20:11,458 --> 01:20:12,982 PROTESTORS: Another step forward. 1534 01:20:13,156 --> 01:20:15,941 ... 1535 01:20:16,115 --> 01:20:17,987 REPORTER: They're turning the campus into what they're calling 1536 01:20:18,161 --> 01:20:20,816 a "Gaza solidarity encampment." 1537 01:20:20,990 --> 01:20:24,297 STUDENTS : Shut it down! Shut it down! 1538 01:20:24,471 --> 01:20:27,126 Shut it down! 1539 01:20:27,300 --> 01:20:28,911 STUDENT PROTESTOR: By setting up this encampment in the heart 1540 01:20:29,085 --> 01:20:31,652 of the Zionist stronghold of Columbia University, 1541 01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:33,872 we intend to tear down the iron gates 1542 01:20:34,046 --> 01:20:35,265 of this institution. 1543 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,615 SEGAL: What the encampments did 1544 01:20:37,789 --> 01:20:41,271 was ratchet up that activity to a level of saying... 1545 01:20:42,838 --> 01:20:43,839 ...we're not leaving. 1546 01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:50,802 STUDENT: Fuck you! Fuck you! 1547 01:20:50,976 --> 01:20:53,065 We are Hamas! 1548 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,160 SEGAL: They were stopping people 1549 01:21:01,334 --> 01:21:03,380 and asking them, "Are you a Zionist?" 1550 01:21:03,554 --> 01:21:05,208 It was more explicit. 1551 01:21:05,382 --> 01:21:06,905 STUDENT: You guys want to prevent Jewish students 1552 01:21:07,079 --> 01:21:08,864 from entering? Fine. 1553 01:21:12,302 --> 01:21:15,131 Yeah, of course I'm Zionist. 1554 01:21:15,305 --> 01:21:16,959 SEGAL: You can't walk 1555 01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:20,919 safely or without fear of intimidation or harassment. 1556 01:21:24,140 --> 01:21:26,185 REPORTER: Intensifying anti-Israel protests 1557 01:21:26,359 --> 01:21:30,320 at Columbia University this week now prompting the school rabbi 1558 01:21:30,494 --> 01:21:35,151 to warn Jewish students to leave campus and return home. 1559 01:21:35,325 --> 01:21:38,197 FAY: I received this notice from our rabbi. 1560 01:21:38,371 --> 01:21:41,984 He believed it was no longer safe for Jewish students. 1561 01:21:42,158 --> 01:21:44,769 But whether or not it was naive, 1562 01:21:44,943 --> 01:21:48,599 I stayed on campus the entire second semester. 1563 01:21:48,773 --> 01:21:50,993 I was not going to let these people push me out. 1564 01:21:51,167 --> 01:21:53,343 STUDENT : Intifada, intifada. 1565 01:21:53,517 --> 01:21:55,519 STUDENTS: Intifada, intifada. 1566 01:21:55,693 --> 01:21:57,738 STUDENT: Long live the intifada. 1567 01:21:57,913 --> 01:21:59,610 STUDENTS: Long live the intifada. 1568 01:21:59,784 --> 01:22:01,264 WEISS: What does it mean, 1569 01:22:01,438 --> 01:22:02,961 that the future leaders 1570 01:22:03,135 --> 01:22:05,964 of the most important democracy in the world 1571 01:22:06,138 --> 01:22:09,054 are chanting for revolution and intifada? 1572 01:22:09,228 --> 01:22:11,622 What is the country gonna look like a decade from now? 1573 01:22:21,545 --> 01:22:24,026 VEKSLER: Their petition for my removal 1574 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,507 had reached enough signatures, and it was going to be 1575 01:22:27,681 --> 01:22:29,814 on the agenda for that senate meeting. 1576 01:22:29,988 --> 01:22:31,947 They got about 850. 1577 01:22:32,121 --> 01:22:33,513 - SACHS: 850? - Yes. 1578 01:22:33,687 --> 01:22:35,298 - That's a lot. - It is a lot. 1579 01:22:35,472 --> 01:22:38,344 ... 1580 01:22:38,518 --> 01:22:39,693 VEKSLER: I remember I had to miss 1581 01:22:39,867 --> 01:22:41,608 all my final exams in person, 1582 01:22:41,782 --> 01:22:43,088 I had to take all my exams online 1583 01:22:43,262 --> 01:22:45,569 because campus was just not safe for me. 1584 01:22:47,875 --> 01:22:52,315 The vote took place on April 10th, 2024. 1585 01:22:52,489 --> 01:22:54,839 The student senate votes whether or not 1586 01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:56,493 they want to proceed with a recall election 1587 01:22:56,667 --> 01:22:58,060 where the entire student body would be asked 1588 01:22:58,234 --> 01:22:59,931 to vote on my removal. 1589 01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,242 The administration was advocating 1590 01:23:06,416 --> 01:23:08,418 for the vote to take place on Zoom. 1591 01:23:08,592 --> 01:23:10,420 So, I couldn't even look these people in the eyes and say 1592 01:23:10,594 --> 01:23:12,900 my speech out loud to them. 1593 01:23:14,337 --> 01:23:15,773 They voted at 1:00 in the morning. 1594 01:23:15,947 --> 01:23:17,818 It was a six-hour-long meeting, 1595 01:23:17,993 --> 01:23:19,690 and they needed a two-thirds vote. 1596 01:23:19,864 --> 01:23:22,214 STUDENT: The final count was 11 yes's... 1597 01:23:22,388 --> 01:23:24,129 VEKSLER: 11 yes's, 1598 01:23:24,303 --> 01:23:26,001 seven no's, one abstention. 1599 01:23:26,175 --> 01:23:28,525 STUDENT: Fuck yeah. 1600 01:23:29,874 --> 01:23:33,965 STUDENT: The Veksler isn't going anywhere! 1601 01:23:34,139 --> 01:23:35,923 VEKSLER: I fought till the very last second. 1602 01:23:36,098 --> 01:23:38,404 And the recall effort failed by one vote. 1603 01:23:40,624 --> 01:23:41,538 It was a feeling of relief, 1604 01:23:41,712 --> 01:23:43,279 but also a deep sadness 1605 01:23:43,453 --> 01:23:45,542 that it ever had to happen in the first place. 1606 01:23:45,716 --> 01:23:47,805 Also, a lot of betrayal, 1607 01:23:47,979 --> 01:23:50,808 for 11 people that I worked side by side with 1608 01:23:50,982 --> 01:23:53,028 to vote for something like that. 1609 01:23:55,465 --> 01:23:57,162 Usually, the student body president speaks 1610 01:23:57,336 --> 01:23:58,598 at one of the graduation ceremonies, 1611 01:23:58,772 --> 01:24:00,818 and I'm not partaking. 1612 01:24:00,992 --> 01:24:03,473 I really didn't want the one day 1613 01:24:03,647 --> 01:24:06,606 that my family is supposed to be proud of me into... 1614 01:24:06,780 --> 01:24:09,044 be watching a bunch of students scream at me. 1615 01:24:10,219 --> 01:24:12,264 To see your daughter 1616 01:24:12,438 --> 01:24:16,399 facing the thing that you once fled... 1617 01:24:16,573 --> 01:24:19,576 ...I can't even imagine how painful that must be. 1618 01:24:24,102 --> 01:24:27,540 LAHAV: It's been eight months since, uh, the attack. 1619 01:24:27,714 --> 01:24:29,412 I don't live here. 1620 01:24:29,586 --> 01:24:31,066 Every time I come here, 1621 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,980 I take the key, 1622 01:24:33,155 --> 01:24:37,159 I open the door quietly, 1623 01:24:37,333 --> 01:24:39,291 and I look to all the sides, 1624 01:24:39,465 --> 01:24:42,468 I make sure that there is no terrorist inside, 1625 01:24:42,642 --> 01:24:44,644 and then I relax. 1626 01:24:52,565 --> 01:24:55,090 We hid under the table here. 1627 01:24:55,264 --> 01:24:57,875 I made a wall of books that were here, 1628 01:24:58,049 --> 01:25:01,008 thinking that once somebody would open 1629 01:25:01,183 --> 01:25:04,795 and the Palestinian terrorist would shoot us, 1630 01:25:04,969 --> 01:25:06,666 the books will slow down the bullets 1631 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,016 and we will not die. 1632 01:25:09,191 --> 01:25:10,670 So, it was like this. 1633 01:25:10,844 --> 01:25:14,761 And I tied this part to the door handle, so it, 1634 01:25:14,935 --> 01:25:17,982 they couldn't, uh, move it, they couldn't open it. 1635 01:25:18,156 --> 01:25:21,203 We stayed here from 6:30 in the morning 1636 01:25:21,377 --> 01:25:22,900 until 6:00 in the evening. 1637 01:25:23,074 --> 01:25:25,772 I'll turn off the light, okay? 1638 01:25:25,946 --> 01:25:27,383 Like this. 1639 01:25:27,557 --> 01:25:29,994 When you only can hear outside, 1640 01:25:30,168 --> 01:25:34,041 shooting and grenades all the time. 1641 01:25:37,480 --> 01:25:40,004 It was just my workroom. 1642 01:25:40,178 --> 01:25:45,966 But now when I come here, I feel it's my safe haven. 1643 01:25:46,141 --> 01:25:49,579 I feel this is the-the most secured... 1644 01:25:52,843 --> 01:25:55,106 ...the most secured place on Earth for me. 1645 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,979 That's how it feels. It feels like a home, you know? 1646 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:01,591 A nest, maybe, whatever. 1647 01:26:04,681 --> 01:26:06,770 ... 1648 01:26:22,089 --> 01:26:23,787 MAYA BENTWICH: We're in kibbutz Kfar Aza, 1649 01:26:23,961 --> 01:26:26,093 which is one of the 22 points-- kibbutzs, communities-- 1650 01:26:26,268 --> 01:26:28,705 that were infiltrated on the 7th of October. 1651 01:26:28,879 --> 01:26:32,143 And we're currently standing in the Itamari family house, 1652 01:26:32,317 --> 01:26:34,145 which is or was the childhood home 1653 01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:36,843 of a close friend of mine, Raz Itamari. 1654 01:26:37,017 --> 01:26:38,802 I'm gonna take you inside her room, 1655 01:26:38,976 --> 01:26:40,717 which was the MAMAD, the bomb shelter. 1656 01:26:40,891 --> 01:26:43,502 And that's the room that's supposed to be safest, 1657 01:26:43,676 --> 01:26:45,722 supposed to protect you from bombs, missiles, 1658 01:26:45,896 --> 01:26:47,289 not from terrorists. 1659 01:26:47,463 --> 01:26:48,899 And that's where both her parents, 1660 01:26:49,073 --> 01:26:52,119 Lili and Ram Itamari Z"L were murdered. 1661 01:26:57,255 --> 01:26:59,605 This is the MAMAD. 1662 01:27:00,563 --> 01:27:03,479 You would have ashes up to here 1663 01:27:03,653 --> 01:27:06,221 'cause everything was burned. 1664 01:27:06,395 --> 01:27:10,660 And you see it, like, you see, there's nothing left. 1665 01:27:14,011 --> 01:27:17,319 We had families that would go to the Gazan border 1666 01:27:17,493 --> 01:27:20,713 almost every Shabbat and fly out kites as a peace gesture 1667 01:27:20,887 --> 01:27:24,282 that often had written on them "Peace, Salam, Shalom." 1668 01:27:24,456 --> 01:27:27,807 Five family members-- the parents were Americans-- 1669 01:27:27,981 --> 01:27:30,157 were found shot to death in their MAMADs, 1670 01:27:30,332 --> 01:27:33,160 the father hugging his family, trying to protect them. 1671 01:27:33,335 --> 01:27:35,554 And right outside in the living room, we found the kite 1672 01:27:35,728 --> 01:27:38,688 that they were planning to fly out on that Saturday. 1673 01:27:40,646 --> 01:27:43,693 One of the organizer of the flying of the kites 1674 01:27:43,867 --> 01:27:45,738 is Lili, my friend's mom. 1675 01:27:45,912 --> 01:27:48,785 These people believed in peace and worked towards peace. 1676 01:27:50,656 --> 01:27:52,397 The world needs to know and to understand 1677 01:27:52,571 --> 01:27:54,443 what happened here. 1678 01:27:54,617 --> 01:27:56,140 Because if you're a human being, 1679 01:27:56,314 --> 01:27:58,055 you can't be ignorant to what happened. 1680 01:27:58,229 --> 01:28:00,318 You can't be ignorant to the sexual assault 1681 01:28:00,492 --> 01:28:01,928 and to the raping and to the murdering, 1682 01:28:02,102 --> 01:28:03,930 and to the kidnapping. 1683 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,826 KHAN: It's June, um... 1684 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:31,654 we're at the Nova site, 1685 01:28:31,828 --> 01:28:34,831 uh, the site of the now infamous 1686 01:28:35,005 --> 01:28:37,660 Nova festival massacre. 1687 01:28:37,834 --> 01:28:39,444 Uh, and we're standing-- 1688 01:28:39,618 --> 01:28:41,838 I'm sorry... 1689 01:28:42,012 --> 01:28:46,669 amongst pictures of the people who were killed, 1690 01:28:46,843 --> 01:28:48,714 murdered-- brutally murdered-- 1691 01:28:48,888 --> 01:28:51,195 and kidnapped... 1692 01:28:51,369 --> 01:28:53,328 ...on October 7th. 1693 01:28:53,502 --> 01:28:55,678 ... 1694 01:29:01,205 --> 01:29:03,816 Hearing the stories over the past few months 1695 01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:05,862 about what happened here 1696 01:29:06,036 --> 01:29:09,387 is, you know, it-it's gutting. 1697 01:29:09,561 --> 01:29:11,607 Being here and seeing their faces 1698 01:29:11,781 --> 01:29:15,262 and seeing, like, the face of this girl... 1699 01:29:20,833 --> 01:29:22,922 ... 1700 01:29:29,364 --> 01:29:32,497 I think, it's so important to bear witness 1701 01:29:32,671 --> 01:29:35,631 and to humanize these innocent people. 1702 01:29:38,677 --> 01:29:41,332 A lot of these people were, you know, anti-war 1703 01:29:41,506 --> 01:29:42,768 and believed in peace, 1704 01:29:42,942 --> 01:29:45,336 you know... 1705 01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:47,860 So, like, we're really close to the war. 1706 01:29:48,034 --> 01:29:49,862 I mean, we're hearing the bombs overhead 1707 01:29:50,036 --> 01:29:51,821 that are being sent into Gaza. 1708 01:29:51,995 --> 01:29:55,172 It is horrific thinking that-- 1709 01:29:55,346 --> 01:29:57,217 or knowing, that there are innocent people 1710 01:29:57,392 --> 01:30:01,004 who are dying in Gaza, um, you know, young children. 1711 01:30:01,178 --> 01:30:02,571 That's why I really do empathize 1712 01:30:02,745 --> 01:30:05,617 with the people protesting on campuses. 1713 01:30:05,791 --> 01:30:07,314 I mean, war is horrible. 1714 01:30:07,489 --> 01:30:09,795 Nobody wants to see these people dying. 1715 01:30:09,969 --> 01:30:13,190 That's one thing that these students on campuses get wrong, 1716 01:30:13,364 --> 01:30:16,106 is they're saying that we want a war. 1717 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,629 We don't want a war. 1718 01:30:17,803 --> 01:30:20,153 We want to just live in peace. 1719 01:30:23,461 --> 01:30:25,158 PROTESTORS : Fuck Israel. 1720 01:30:25,332 --> 01:30:26,725 Israel's a bitch. 1721 01:30:26,899 --> 01:30:28,248 Fuck Israel. 1722 01:30:28,423 --> 01:30:29,685 Israel's a bitch. 1723 01:30:29,859 --> 01:30:31,295 Fuck Israel. 1724 01:30:31,469 --> 01:30:32,775 Israel's a bitch. 1725 01:30:32,949 --> 01:30:34,298 PROTESTOR: Smash the settler Zionist state! 1726 01:30:34,472 --> 01:30:36,213 PROTESTORS: Smash the settler Zionist state! 1727 01:30:38,737 --> 01:30:40,826 DAVIDAI: When historians write this dark chapter 1728 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,089 in American history, 1729 01:30:43,263 --> 01:30:46,353 there will be a very clear chronological, 1730 01:30:46,528 --> 01:30:48,355 temporal narrative. 1731 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:52,272 And it will start in October 8th, 1732 01:30:52,447 --> 01:30:56,146 with the justification, excusal and celebration 1733 01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:00,150 of the massacre of more than 1,200 civilians by Hamas. 1734 01:31:02,152 --> 01:31:05,721 It will go through the violent protests 1735 01:31:05,895 --> 01:31:09,115 and the crazy resolutions we're seeing in the U.N. 1736 01:31:09,289 --> 01:31:11,117 and in city councils. 1737 01:31:11,291 --> 01:31:12,815 It will go through Congress and we hear 1738 01:31:12,989 --> 01:31:15,339 university presidents that are unable to say 1739 01:31:15,513 --> 01:31:18,690 that calling for genocide is bad. 1740 01:31:18,864 --> 01:31:20,387 It will go through mobs 1741 01:31:20,562 --> 01:31:23,390 storming restaurants just because 1742 01:31:23,565 --> 01:31:27,046 they are owned by Israelis and Jews. 1743 01:31:28,483 --> 01:31:30,093 And when I can't fall asleep at night, 1744 01:31:30,267 --> 01:31:33,096 that's what runs in my mind. 1745 01:31:33,270 --> 01:31:34,880 What if what we're seeing now 1746 01:31:35,054 --> 01:31:38,318 is the 1930s, 1747 01:31:38,493 --> 01:31:43,889 but we're unable to steer the train off the tracks? 1748 01:31:45,412 --> 01:31:47,806 And I just hope that enough Americans 1749 01:31:47,980 --> 01:31:51,157 will wake up and realize that this is not about Jews. 1750 01:31:51,331 --> 01:31:53,899 It never ends with the Jews. 1751 01:31:54,073 --> 01:31:55,945 This is about democracy, 1752 01:31:56,119 --> 01:31:58,556 this is about human decency. 1753 01:31:59,862 --> 01:32:01,472 YOUSEF: The United States of America 1754 01:32:01,646 --> 01:32:03,126 took me in 1755 01:32:03,300 --> 01:32:05,389 when my own family rejected me 1756 01:32:05,563 --> 01:32:09,088 and, uh, condemned me to death. 1757 01:32:09,262 --> 01:32:11,438 Today, I'm an American. 1758 01:32:11,613 --> 01:32:15,573 I have obligation to my country, to my Constitution, 1759 01:32:15,747 --> 01:32:18,315 to be the eyewitness 1760 01:32:18,489 --> 01:32:21,448 and to speak up, not to be afraid. 1761 01:32:21,623 --> 01:32:23,755 TORRES: You know, it's not lost on me 1762 01:32:23,929 --> 01:32:26,584 that throughout history, there have been Jews 1763 01:32:26,758 --> 01:32:29,456 who gave their lives for the cause of civil rights. 1764 01:32:29,631 --> 01:32:31,371 Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, 1765 01:32:31,546 --> 01:32:34,461 were brutally murdered in the Mississippi Burning 1766 01:32:34,636 --> 01:32:37,726 so that Black Americans could vote and live freely, 1767 01:32:37,900 --> 01:32:40,598 unencumbered by the cruelty of Jim Crow. 1768 01:32:40,772 --> 01:32:42,165 And so, for me, 1769 01:32:42,339 --> 01:32:44,384 the lesson learned from history 1770 01:32:44,559 --> 01:32:46,604 is that we're all in this together. 1771 01:32:46,778 --> 01:32:49,868 We all have a moral obligation to fight extremism, 1772 01:32:50,042 --> 01:32:51,957 hate and fear, 1773 01:32:52,131 --> 01:32:53,872 no matter what form it takes. 1774 01:32:54,046 --> 01:32:55,787 And that obligation is based not only 1775 01:32:55,961 --> 01:32:58,007 on the particularity of our identity, 1776 01:32:58,181 --> 01:33:00,183 it's based on something more universal, 1777 01:33:00,357 --> 01:33:01,706 which is our common humanity. 1778 01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,841 And for me, October 7th was so barbaric 1779 01:33:06,015 --> 01:33:09,322 that it was a frontal assault on our common humanity. 1780 01:33:10,933 --> 01:33:13,065 College campuses and social media platforms 1781 01:33:13,239 --> 01:33:16,939 are indoctrinating young Americans 1782 01:33:17,113 --> 01:33:19,071 with a hatred for Israel 1783 01:33:19,245 --> 01:33:21,944 that is so visceral and so fanatical 1784 01:33:22,118 --> 01:33:24,860 that it renders them indifferent 1785 01:33:25,034 --> 01:33:26,992 to the butchering of Israeli babies, 1786 01:33:27,166 --> 01:33:28,559 to the cold-blooded murder 1787 01:33:28,733 --> 01:33:30,692 of Israeli children and civilians. 1788 01:33:30,866 --> 01:33:34,565 And so, if we as a society 1789 01:33:34,739 --> 01:33:38,438 cannot bring ourselves to condemn 1790 01:33:38,613 --> 01:33:40,919 the cold-blooded murder of children and civilians 1791 01:33:41,093 --> 01:33:43,530 with moral clarity, 1792 01:33:43,705 --> 01:33:45,445 then we should ask ourselves, "What are we becoming 1793 01:33:45,620 --> 01:33:47,447 as a society?" 1794 01:33:47,622 --> 01:33:49,275 You know, this is not only about Israel, 1795 01:33:49,449 --> 01:33:50,755 and this is not only about the Jewish community. 1796 01:33:50,929 --> 01:33:54,019 What is at stake is the soul of America. 1797 01:33:56,152 --> 01:33:57,675 I was on a walk with one of my closest friends 1798 01:33:57,849 --> 01:33:59,329 who's not Jewish, 1799 01:33:59,503 --> 01:34:01,853 and just out of nowhere, not expecting to say this, 1800 01:34:02,027 --> 01:34:06,031 what came out of my mouth was, "Will you hide me?" 1801 01:34:06,205 --> 01:34:10,296 Like, "If it comes to that, will you hide me and my family?" 1802 01:34:10,470 --> 01:34:12,255 And like, do I really think that's gonna happen 1803 01:34:12,429 --> 01:34:14,561 in the United States? No. 1804 01:34:14,736 --> 01:34:15,911 And it was interesting, 'cause she didn't really know 1805 01:34:16,085 --> 01:34:17,347 what I was talking about. 1806 01:34:17,521 --> 01:34:19,131 She said, "What do you mean, hide you?" 1807 01:34:19,305 --> 01:34:20,916 And I explained that there are these righteous people 1808 01:34:21,090 --> 01:34:23,222 that hid Jews, this is the story of Anne Frank. 1809 01:34:23,396 --> 01:34:25,572 And then, of course, she said, "Oh, I know what you mean," 1810 01:34:25,747 --> 01:34:28,314 but any Jew would've known what I meant immediately. 1811 01:34:28,488 --> 01:34:31,448 ... 1812 01:34:31,622 --> 01:34:35,757 I feel like I'm grieving for the security I thought we had. 1813 01:34:35,931 --> 01:34:38,411 And I'm grieving for the sense of protection 1814 01:34:38,585 --> 01:34:40,892 I thought my children had. 1815 01:34:41,066 --> 01:34:45,505 And I'm working hard to find, in that grief, our strength. 1816 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,856 And so, if all of the anti-Semitism 1817 01:34:48,030 --> 01:34:51,773 was true on October 6th, we just didn't know it, 1818 01:34:51,947 --> 01:34:53,600 at least we're awake now. 1819 01:34:54,558 --> 01:34:56,429 And we're not alone. 1820 01:34:56,603 --> 01:34:58,649 The friend that I said, "Will you hide me?" 1821 01:34:58,823 --> 01:35:00,738 She cried. 1822 01:35:00,912 --> 01:35:02,653 Not for me, with me. 1823 01:35:02,827 --> 01:35:04,350 She said, "I'm not gonna let that happen 1824 01:35:04,524 --> 01:35:08,093 to this world either," and I believe her. 1825 01:35:09,442 --> 01:35:10,617 VEKSLER: Our history shows us 1826 01:35:10,792 --> 01:35:13,098 that Jews always make it out. 1827 01:35:13,272 --> 01:35:15,666 I look at young people who are the future, 1828 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,495 and they are ready. 1829 01:35:18,669 --> 01:35:21,628 They are proud, they are ready to fight. 1830 01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,762 They are smart, 1831 01:35:24,936 --> 01:35:26,633 they are brave, 1832 01:35:26,808 --> 01:35:29,811 and they inspire me. 1833 01:35:29,985 --> 01:35:31,987 The shared resilience and the future resilience 1834 01:35:32,161 --> 01:35:33,945 that I can see forming in front of my eyes, 1835 01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:36,295 that's what gives me hope. 1836 01:35:37,949 --> 01:35:40,386 MESSING: We can't fight the tsunami of Jew hatred 1837 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,780 that has exploded across our country 1838 01:35:42,954 --> 01:35:45,435 since October 7th alone. 1839 01:35:45,609 --> 01:35:47,785 We have partners who believe 1840 01:35:47,959 --> 01:35:51,528 in pluralism and peace and freedom 1841 01:35:51,702 --> 01:35:56,576 and we have to lock arms together. 1842 01:35:56,751 --> 01:36:00,798 If we do that, we can change minds and hearts. 1843 01:36:00,972 --> 01:36:05,368 And ultimately, that will change the world. 1844 01:36:06,935 --> 01:36:11,678 And so, we have to live 1845 01:36:11,853 --> 01:36:14,116 by Hatikvah. 1846 01:36:14,290 --> 01:36:18,642 We have to live from a place of hope 1847 01:36:18,816 --> 01:36:22,211 because that is going to bring us together 1848 01:36:22,385 --> 01:36:26,868 and that is going to help us 1849 01:36:27,042 --> 01:36:28,695 light up the dark. 1850 01:36:31,786 --> 01:36:33,744 ... 1851 01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:16,439 ♪ They told me ♪ 1852 01:37:16,613 --> 01:37:19,659 ♪ It would be impossible ♪ 1853 01:37:19,834 --> 01:37:24,621 ♪ And for many, they would be right ♪ 1854 01:37:24,795 --> 01:37:27,363 ♪ But for every dark cloud ♪ 1855 01:37:27,537 --> 01:37:29,974 ♪ Cast I ask ♪ 1856 01:37:30,148 --> 01:37:33,848 ♪ Have you seen my light? ♪ 1857 01:37:34,022 --> 01:37:35,632 ♪ Hold my head up ♪ 1858 01:37:35,806 --> 01:37:39,201 ♪ When I'm feeling down ♪ 1859 01:37:39,375 --> 01:37:41,159 ♪ 'Cause hope's all I need ♪ 1860 01:37:41,333 --> 01:37:43,988 ♪ To survive ♪ 1861 01:37:44,162 --> 01:37:46,425 ♪ No, you can't break ♪ 1862 01:37:46,599 --> 01:37:48,819 ♪ What's born to stand ♪ 1863 01:37:48,993 --> 01:37:52,954 ♪ Have you seen my light? ♪ 1864 01:37:53,128 --> 01:37:55,870 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1865 01:37:58,002 --> 01:38:00,657 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1866 01:38:02,615 --> 01:38:05,618 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1867 01:38:07,533 --> 01:38:12,364 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1868 01:38:12,538 --> 01:38:17,761 ♪ Life could make me hard and solitaire ♪ 1869 01:38:17,935 --> 01:38:22,766 ♪ Instead I choose to be kind ♪ 1870 01:38:22,940 --> 01:38:24,724 ♪ I thank God ♪ 1871 01:38:24,899 --> 01:38:27,423 ♪ For the love that I bear ♪ 1872 01:38:27,597 --> 01:38:31,514 ♪ Have you seen my light? ♪ 1873 01:38:31,688 --> 01:38:36,823 ♪ As the sun shines in Jerusalem ♪ 1874 01:38:36,998 --> 01:38:39,174 ♪ No prayer shall be left behind ♪ 1875 01:38:39,348 --> 01:38:42,046 ♪ No prayer should be left behind ♪ 1876 01:38:42,220 --> 01:38:44,005 ♪ Gratitude hymns ♪ 1877 01:38:44,179 --> 01:38:46,572 ♪ As I cross each bridge ♪ 1878 01:38:46,746 --> 01:38:50,228 ♪ Have you seen my light? ♪ 1879 01:38:50,402 --> 01:38:52,970 - ♪ Seen my light ♪ - ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1880 01:38:53,144 --> 01:38:54,885 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1881 01:38:55,059 --> 01:38:57,932 - ♪ Seen my light ♪ - ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1882 01:39:00,586 --> 01:39:03,372 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1883 01:39:05,330 --> 01:39:09,160 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1884 01:39:11,075 --> 01:39:13,556 ♪ Hmm ♪ 1885 01:39:15,471 --> 01:39:18,517 ♪ Hmm ♪ 1886 01:39:20,432 --> 01:39:23,218 ♪ Hmm ♪ 1887 01:39:25,133 --> 01:39:27,178 ♪ Hmm ♪ 1888 01:39:29,137 --> 01:39:31,704 - ♪ Seen my light ♪ - ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1889 01:39:34,707 --> 01:39:36,796 ♪ Shine a little bit ♪ 1890 01:39:36,971 --> 01:39:40,191 ♪ The sun is always shining on me, yeah ♪ 1891 01:39:40,365 --> 01:39:42,454 ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1892 01:39:42,628 --> 01:39:45,675 - ♪ Seen my light ♪ - ♪ Seen my light ♪ 1893 01:39:50,375 --> 01:39:53,509 ♪ Ooh. ♪ 145191

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