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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,498 --> 00:00:18,368 dream 2 00:00:18,436 --> 00:00:27,044 when you're feeling blue 3 00:00:27,111 --> 00:00:31,748 dream 4 00:00:31,816 --> 00:00:38,388 that's the thing to do 5 00:00:41,125 --> 00:00:52,502 things never are as bad as they seem 6 00:00:52,570 --> 00:00:58,175 so dream 7 00:00:58,242 --> 00:01:04,481 dream, dream 8 00:01:35,213 --> 00:01:41,918 on april 8, 2000, mark hogancamp was in a bar. 9 00:01:41,986 --> 00:01:46,790 he left the bar about closing time. 10 00:01:46,858 --> 00:01:51,161 and a group of five individuals had been in the bar harassing him, 11 00:01:51,229 --> 00:01:56,733 then they went outside, followed him, and beat him senseless. 12 00:01:56,801 --> 00:02:02,906 stomped on him, and did some pretty bad damage to his brain. 13 00:02:06,744 --> 00:02:09,746 the doctors had to rebuild his face. 14 00:02:09,814 --> 00:02:14,051 the impact on the brain from the assault 15 00:02:14,118 --> 00:02:17,721 was such that he was in a coma for 9 days. 16 00:02:19,223 --> 00:02:24,895 to see your 38-year-old son having to learn how to eat again, 17 00:02:24,962 --> 00:02:26,763 taking his first steps. 18 00:02:26,831 --> 00:02:32,402 i mean, seeing your 38-year-old son starting to walk again. 19 00:02:32,470 --> 00:02:36,640 and seeing it, it's heart breaking. 20 00:02:37,875 --> 00:02:41,044 he was there for 40 days in the hospital. 21 00:02:41,112 --> 00:02:45,415 and then they dismissed him because he couldn't pay for it 22 00:02:45,483 --> 00:02:47,818 when he was on medicaid. 23 00:02:47,885 --> 00:02:50,987 i took care of mark for 2 years 24 00:02:51,055 --> 00:02:53,123 after he got out of the hospital. 25 00:02:53,191 --> 00:02:56,326 i mean, he really literally had to learn everything over. 26 00:03:01,132 --> 00:03:02,999 he went to therapy for a very short time. 27 00:03:03,067 --> 00:03:06,169 it was-- all these physical therapies he went through 28 00:03:06,237 --> 00:03:08,839 and talking and word search and all this stuff. 29 00:03:08,906 --> 00:03:11,441 he was just starting to get, you know, some of this stuff back 30 00:03:11,509 --> 00:03:12,442 when they just, like, cut if off. 31 00:03:12,510 --> 00:03:14,144 "that's it. that's all you get". 32 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,047 then you come home from work 33 00:03:17,115 --> 00:03:21,952 and he's building this little miniature building, 34 00:03:22,019 --> 00:03:26,590 and looks like hell, just made from old plywood 35 00:03:26,657 --> 00:03:29,860 and nasty stuff and pieces of stuff you find around the yard. 36 00:03:29,927 --> 00:03:35,165 but it's developed into a world, his own world. 37 00:03:39,504 --> 00:03:42,372 this is me. 38 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,375 after the attack, of course. 39 00:03:45,443 --> 00:03:47,644 always smoking. 40 00:03:47,712 --> 00:03:52,649 um, i used to carry one revolver. 41 00:03:52,717 --> 00:03:59,022 and then general patton gave me his other revolver. 42 00:03:59,090 --> 00:04:01,424 so now i have two. 43 00:04:01,492 --> 00:04:07,130 because the general just wants to hang out, have a drink. 44 00:04:26,951 --> 00:04:29,920 what's this all about, man 45 00:05:15,299 --> 00:05:20,837 when the teenagers kicked my head to pieces, 46 00:05:20,905 --> 00:05:23,807 they wiped, i mean, everything. 47 00:05:23,875 --> 00:05:26,509 all memory of everything. 48 00:05:28,846 --> 00:05:35,085 my memories that i do get, they come back in stills, 49 00:05:35,152 --> 00:05:38,688 just a single shot, but no context. 50 00:05:40,258 --> 00:05:45,662 all i have is a photo to remind me that, ok, i was married, wow. 51 00:05:45,730 --> 00:05:48,164 to a good-looking girl, too. 52 00:05:48,232 --> 00:05:53,904 she was a russian polish. anastasia. 53 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:57,240 i started to ask questions 54 00:05:57,308 --> 00:06:01,678 because i didn't know who i was. 55 00:06:01,746 --> 00:06:04,414 i had to ask other people. what was i like 56 00:06:04,482 --> 00:06:07,684 was i bad guy was i mean was i 57 00:06:07,752 --> 00:06:10,487 and they would tell me, "no, you weren't mean. 58 00:06:10,554 --> 00:06:13,356 you were just drunk". 59 00:06:13,424 --> 00:06:15,959 you know, you were an all right guy. 60 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:17,294 "did i hurt anyone " 61 00:06:17,361 --> 00:06:20,664 "no, you just hurt yourself". 62 00:06:21,999 --> 00:06:25,368 then i started finding my drunk journals 63 00:06:25,436 --> 00:06:26,970 and started reading those 64 00:06:27,038 --> 00:06:29,472 because i wanted to find out who i was. 65 00:06:30,374 --> 00:06:32,075 for real. 66 00:06:33,077 --> 00:06:35,545 'cause the only one that would know 67 00:06:35,613 --> 00:06:38,615 is the guy who was writing them, who was me. 68 00:06:38,683 --> 00:06:40,917 maybe not in the right frame of mind, 69 00:06:40,985 --> 00:06:42,686 but it was me. 70 00:06:42,753 --> 00:06:46,623 it's all messed up like this because i was hammered. 71 00:06:46,691 --> 00:06:51,795 "i'm gonna die tonight". 72 00:06:51,862 --> 00:06:55,365 and, oh, january 19, 1993. 73 00:06:55,433 --> 00:06:58,368 "last entry". 74 00:07:01,739 --> 00:07:03,239 and i was like, my god. 75 00:07:03,307 --> 00:07:05,375 it was like reading something 76 00:07:05,443 --> 00:07:07,143 that stephen king wrote or something. 77 00:07:07,211 --> 00:07:11,014 it was bad. 78 00:07:13,818 --> 00:07:17,354 i never want to see this guy again. 79 00:07:25,229 --> 00:07:28,431 i figured, all right, well, what's the first thing i got to work on 80 00:07:28,499 --> 00:07:32,068 that's my imagination. 81 00:07:35,139 --> 00:07:40,377 i came flying over in my p-40 warhawk. on fire. 82 00:07:41,846 --> 00:07:44,280 and i saw a field down below. 83 00:07:44,348 --> 00:07:47,617 and i crash landed it. 84 00:07:49,353 --> 00:07:52,489 and when i walked into town, 85 00:07:52,556 --> 00:07:55,091 there was nobody there. 86 00:07:57,528 --> 00:08:03,566 and then one by one, beautiful barbie-looking women 87 00:08:03,634 --> 00:08:06,703 started emerging. 88 00:08:10,241 --> 00:08:14,110 i was the only man in town with 27 barbies. 89 00:08:17,281 --> 00:08:19,816 the ss, i found out later, 90 00:08:19,884 --> 00:08:22,052 went through there and killed men. 91 00:08:22,119 --> 00:08:25,488 it was like a desolate town. 92 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,402 and they all hid when the ss were there. 93 00:08:39,470 --> 00:08:42,939 so they came out and they thanked me. 94 00:08:43,007 --> 00:08:47,243 i was thinking, "boy, what a lucky guy i am". 95 00:08:47,311 --> 00:08:51,381 so they gave me my own place, my own building, 96 00:08:51,449 --> 00:08:53,850 which i turned into a bar. 97 00:09:04,228 --> 00:09:06,729 i used to work there five days a week. 98 00:09:06,797 --> 00:09:09,065 you know, 10 hours a day. 99 00:09:09,133 --> 00:09:12,535 but now i just work once a week, 100 00:09:12,603 --> 00:09:14,437 and it's 4 or 5 hours a week, 101 00:09:14,505 --> 00:09:20,944 just so i can get used to doing things again. 102 00:09:22,446 --> 00:09:27,283 mark's job is-- he kind of does anything i ask him, really. 103 00:09:27,351 --> 00:09:28,551 doesn't come in too much 104 00:09:28,619 --> 00:09:30,520 because it's too much for him 105 00:09:30,588 --> 00:09:34,824 if he's around a lot of people and a lot of stress. 106 00:09:34,892 --> 00:09:38,428 he came to me, he was in recovery. 107 00:09:38,496 --> 00:09:40,730 didn't last long. 108 00:09:40,798 --> 00:09:43,032 and he was awful. 109 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:45,502 he drank. sometimes he came to work, 110 00:09:45,569 --> 00:09:47,504 sometimes, like he said, he would have a shot 111 00:09:47,571 --> 00:09:49,072 just to steady himself for the day 112 00:09:49,140 --> 00:09:52,242 and just call in and say, i'm not coming. 113 00:09:54,044 --> 00:09:55,645 after he got out of the hospital, 114 00:09:55,713 --> 00:09:56,813 it was like somebody turned a switch. 115 00:09:56,881 --> 00:10:01,084 he had no interest in alcohol at all. at all. 116 00:10:01,152 --> 00:10:05,355 after the attack, when i started coming around back here, 117 00:10:05,422 --> 00:10:09,559 i looked at the bottles and i don't get that same feeling. 118 00:10:09,627 --> 00:10:11,528 nothing happens when i look at the bottle. 119 00:10:11,595 --> 00:10:13,963 it's like liquor, booze, that's it. 120 00:10:14,031 --> 00:10:18,201 i mean, if i don't remember what it's like to be drunk 121 00:10:18,269 --> 00:10:22,705 or what it tastes like, then i don't miss it. 122 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:42,058 i just figured i'd be like sam malone, you know, from "cheers". 123 00:10:42,126 --> 00:10:44,394 you know, he's a recovering alcoholic 124 00:10:44,461 --> 00:10:47,297 and he is a bartender. 125 00:10:47,364 --> 00:10:52,669 i made my alter ego figure drink only coffee 126 00:10:52,736 --> 00:10:54,270 because that's what i do in real life, 127 00:10:54,338 --> 00:10:57,473 drink tons of coffee. 128 00:10:57,541 --> 00:11:01,344 does anybody ever try and offer your alter ego a beer 129 00:11:01,412 --> 00:11:03,313 yeah. yeah. 130 00:11:03,380 --> 00:11:04,380 and what happens 131 00:11:04,448 --> 00:11:06,216 i just tell them i don't drink. 132 00:11:06,283 --> 00:11:10,653 the only entertainment i could think of was catfighting. 133 00:11:10,721 --> 00:11:15,291 so i paid the girls to catfight. 134 00:11:15,359 --> 00:11:20,296 staged catfights for entertainment purposes only. 135 00:11:20,364 --> 00:11:25,101 i named my club, besides hogancamp's, 136 00:11:25,169 --> 00:11:26,970 i added a little bit more. 137 00:11:27,037 --> 00:11:30,373 hogancamp's ruined stocking. 138 00:11:30,441 --> 00:11:34,544 catfight club. the only one in belgium. 139 00:11:37,548 --> 00:11:43,386 this place. just looking at it soothes me. 140 00:11:52,062 --> 00:11:56,966 i used to be able to draw anything that came to my mind, 141 00:11:57,034 --> 00:12:01,337 but now, since the attack, i can't 142 00:12:01,405 --> 00:12:05,141 because my hand shakes too much. 143 00:12:05,209 --> 00:12:08,778 this one was evidence. 144 00:12:08,846 --> 00:12:11,047 still has the evidence sticker. 145 00:12:11,115 --> 00:12:14,984 his drawings were there to show to the jury 146 00:12:15,052 --> 00:12:17,754 what this individual was capable of doing. 147 00:12:17,821 --> 00:12:20,590 brain damage you can't see with your own eyes, 148 00:12:20,658 --> 00:12:22,625 but you can see the manifestations 149 00:12:22,693 --> 00:12:25,128 from what people have been able to do before 150 00:12:25,195 --> 00:12:26,829 to what they can do now. 151 00:12:41,912 --> 00:12:44,947 mom, i'm home. 152 00:12:47,017 --> 00:12:48,951 i need supplies. 153 00:12:49,019 --> 00:12:52,288 when mark first came in after the attack, 154 00:12:52,356 --> 00:12:54,424 he was very upset. 155 00:12:54,491 --> 00:12:56,959 his hand wasn't steady enough to do anything. 156 00:12:57,027 --> 00:13:01,097 and he was afraid that he wasn't gonna be able to continue, 157 00:13:01,165 --> 00:13:04,767 and that just frustrated the heck out of him. 158 00:13:06,370 --> 00:13:09,972 so we encouraged him. 159 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,209 and janet, when he didn't have any money, 160 00:13:13,277 --> 00:13:16,112 she'd give him a kit or something to work with. 161 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:17,914 he kept bringing things in to show us. 162 00:13:17,981 --> 00:13:20,416 and you could see the excitement in him, 163 00:13:20,484 --> 00:13:24,320 like, "yeah, yeah, it's there. i hope to get better at it. 164 00:13:28,025 --> 00:13:30,026 i'm in the hobby shop. 165 00:13:30,094 --> 00:13:31,461 i just love the hobby shop. 166 00:13:31,528 --> 00:13:34,063 you get too-- you get too excited. 167 00:13:37,401 --> 00:13:41,904 everything's real. 168 00:13:41,972 --> 00:13:44,440 the slide on the .45. 169 00:13:44,508 --> 00:13:47,443 the hammer. 170 00:13:47,511 --> 00:13:50,546 the clip even comes out. 171 00:13:51,715 --> 00:13:56,419 so that adds to my, you know, veracity 172 00:13:56,487 --> 00:13:59,155 of getting into it, into the story, 173 00:13:59,223 --> 00:14:00,656 because i know everything works. 174 00:14:00,724 --> 00:14:04,093 i almost know what everything-- what every satchel's carrying. 175 00:14:04,161 --> 00:14:06,462 you know, that's grenades. 176 00:14:06,530 --> 00:14:10,500 this is the briefcase i carry around. 177 00:14:10,567 --> 00:14:13,369 in here we have money, 178 00:14:13,437 --> 00:14:15,304 the detonator, 179 00:14:15,372 --> 00:14:17,907 and then certificate of ownership 180 00:14:17,975 --> 00:14:22,979 that i made up myself for my doll figure to carry around 181 00:14:23,046 --> 00:14:26,215 because this proves i own the bar, then. 182 00:14:29,019 --> 00:14:33,923 this is my mom, my mother. 183 00:14:33,991 --> 00:14:39,996 this is from the movie "goldfinger," 007. 184 00:14:40,063 --> 00:14:42,932 pussy galore was her name. 185 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,603 anyway, yeah, it looks just like my mom. 186 00:14:47,671 --> 00:14:49,539 when my mother came to visit, 187 00:14:49,606 --> 00:14:55,144 i said, "mom, mom, look, there's you. you're tending bar". 188 00:14:55,212 --> 00:14:57,814 then she-- "yeah, ok". 189 00:14:57,881 --> 00:15:02,585 didn't even look. just walked right past it. 190 00:15:02,653 --> 00:15:06,088 so it's like-- but it's my mom, you know. 191 00:15:06,156 --> 00:15:09,792 so i gotta have my mom in here, 192 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:11,694 in my town. 193 00:15:21,738 --> 00:15:24,607 this is how i work on patience. 194 00:15:24,675 --> 00:15:28,277 this is how i work on dexterity. 195 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:35,551 training my right hand to be a little bit calmer, 196 00:15:35,619 --> 00:15:37,920 not shake so much. 197 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:44,160 i'm amazed how i can talk about this 198 00:15:44,228 --> 00:15:47,697 and actually do it at the same time. 199 00:15:47,764 --> 00:15:50,132 that's a first. 200 00:15:53,804 --> 00:15:58,841 i started needing vehicles for my town. 201 00:15:58,909 --> 00:16:02,044 and the tires, they looked so brand new. 202 00:16:02,112 --> 00:16:04,647 they got the little factory seam around every one. 203 00:16:04,715 --> 00:16:06,649 it looks like it just rolled out a show room. 204 00:16:06,717 --> 00:16:07,984 i don't want that. 205 00:16:08,051 --> 00:16:11,587 so i start dragging stuff. 206 00:16:13,023 --> 00:16:20,396 the jeep has 180 miles on it. 207 00:16:20,464 --> 00:16:25,835 which is 1,080 miles in 1/6 scale. 208 00:16:27,704 --> 00:16:29,472 when i'm even walking, 209 00:16:29,540 --> 00:16:31,774 i have to constantly look at my feet. 210 00:16:31,842 --> 00:16:35,077 i can't look around like other people do and just walk 211 00:16:35,145 --> 00:16:38,714 because otherwise i'll wind up in the middle of the road 212 00:16:38,782 --> 00:16:39,749 or something like that. 213 00:16:39,816 --> 00:16:43,719 so i've always got to look at what's ahead. 214 00:16:46,890 --> 00:16:49,992 i'm walking along. i'm walking on that white line. 215 00:16:50,060 --> 00:16:53,496 i always have to keep on looking down, 216 00:16:53,564 --> 00:16:56,566 make sure i'm walking on that. 217 00:16:57,968 --> 00:17:02,271 and i still lose my balance and stuff when i'm doing that, 218 00:17:02,339 --> 00:17:05,575 but i'm getting better at it. 219 00:17:24,027 --> 00:17:27,430 americans and germans were wandering into the town 220 00:17:27,497 --> 00:17:29,332 either because they were lost 221 00:17:29,399 --> 00:17:32,969 or they just came across the town. 222 00:17:33,036 --> 00:17:35,137 there was one rule in my town. 223 00:17:35,205 --> 00:17:38,441 that-- friends. be friendly with each other. 224 00:17:38,508 --> 00:17:41,444 behave. so they did. they were. 225 00:17:44,681 --> 00:17:47,984 the americans, the british, the germans, 226 00:17:48,051 --> 00:17:51,253 they all drink together, they all smoke cigarettes together. 227 00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:54,991 everybody be friends with each other. 228 00:17:55,058 --> 00:17:57,460 the germans, when they were there, 229 00:17:57,527 --> 00:18:00,096 i told them they have to get along with the americans. 230 00:18:00,163 --> 00:18:03,299 and as long as i gave them booze and a couple of catfights, 231 00:18:03,367 --> 00:18:07,303 staged catfights, between the girls, they were happy. 232 00:18:07,371 --> 00:18:11,540 so the americans and germans sat together, drinking together. 233 00:18:11,608 --> 00:18:14,043 everybody got along. 234 00:18:14,111 --> 00:18:17,546 nobody was against anybody else. 235 00:18:17,614 --> 00:18:20,616 it didn't matter what clothing they wore. 236 00:18:24,021 --> 00:18:28,224 when i get that new character and i open up that box, 237 00:18:28,291 --> 00:18:32,695 the first thing i look at is their face. 238 00:18:32,763 --> 00:18:37,566 and then i think, who does that remind me of that i know, 239 00:18:37,634 --> 00:18:41,203 that i want to portray with an alter ego in my town 240 00:18:41,271 --> 00:18:45,074 and then that's their alter ego. 241 00:18:50,547 --> 00:18:52,615 she looks like pam. 242 00:18:52,683 --> 00:18:55,051 a girl i know, pam. 243 00:18:55,118 --> 00:19:00,122 that's married. down at the anchorage. 244 00:19:01,625 --> 00:19:04,193 so i think i'm gonna make her pam. 245 00:19:04,261 --> 00:19:06,762 pam. 246 00:19:06,830 --> 00:19:11,133 then sometimes i just do a quick thing like this. 247 00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:13,035 like, oh-ho ho. 248 00:19:13,103 --> 00:19:15,805 like they're hugging me. like they bought me and stuff. 249 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,643 i know what it's like to build things in miniature 250 00:19:20,711 --> 00:19:26,615 and want to have, like, a society outside of society, 251 00:19:26,683 --> 00:19:29,351 a smaller society. 252 00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:32,088 when mark creates a character for you, 253 00:19:32,155 --> 00:19:34,523 that's really a way mark honors you. 254 00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:35,891 and i felt very honored 255 00:19:35,959 --> 00:19:38,694 when mark made me part of his town. 256 00:19:38,762 --> 00:19:42,398 my doll, i believe he's a british commando. 257 00:19:42,466 --> 00:19:45,301 i think it's a handsome doll, myself. 258 00:19:45,368 --> 00:19:48,037 there's always something going on at marwencol. 259 00:19:48,105 --> 00:19:52,174 there's always danger. there's always the ss trying to attack. 260 00:19:52,242 --> 00:19:54,276 i've taken place in many battles, 261 00:19:54,344 --> 00:19:58,414 and we usually come out on top. 262 00:20:02,753 --> 00:20:06,489 everybody at one time or another 263 00:20:06,556 --> 00:20:09,291 wishes they had a double that could do things 264 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,461 that they could never do. 265 00:20:12,529 --> 00:20:15,197 so what i do is with alter egos, 266 00:20:15,265 --> 00:20:18,734 i tell my friends, you can be anybody you want, 267 00:20:18,802 --> 00:20:22,905 you can do anything you want in my town. 268 00:20:22,973 --> 00:20:25,641 have as many girls as you want. 269 00:20:25,709 --> 00:20:28,077 i only-- i have 27 barbies, 270 00:20:28,145 --> 00:20:31,080 so we have to keep enough for the other dudes. 271 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:36,385 mediterranean lisa said, 272 00:20:36,453 --> 00:20:41,757 i want to have a tall, dark, and handsome boyfriend. 273 00:20:41,825 --> 00:20:43,926 i said, ok. 274 00:20:43,994 --> 00:20:47,663 so i put her with yazi the navajo indian. 275 00:20:47,731 --> 00:20:51,033 and she said, he's gorgeous. he's perfect. 276 00:20:51,101 --> 00:20:54,503 but she didn't know i had a steve mcqueen doll. 277 00:20:54,571 --> 00:20:56,008 when she found that out, 278 00:20:56,009 --> 00:20:59,009 she wanted to drop the navajo like a hot cake. 279 00:20:59,075 --> 00:21:02,978 and now steve mcqueen's her boyfriend. 280 00:21:10,587 --> 00:21:14,557 i am mediterranean lisa, and this is my doll. 281 00:21:14,624 --> 00:21:16,358 i am now dating steve mcqueen. 282 00:21:16,426 --> 00:21:18,360 i'm very happy about that. 283 00:21:39,249 --> 00:21:41,116 a couple buddies of mine 284 00:21:41,184 --> 00:21:46,789 were looking at my town one day 285 00:21:46,857 --> 00:21:51,527 and it was all, you know, the soldiers out there and stuff. 286 00:21:51,595 --> 00:21:54,029 and i had a barbie. 287 00:21:54,097 --> 00:21:58,367 and one of them said, "hey, look, man, it's a barbie". 288 00:21:58,435 --> 00:22:02,371 and i says, "yeah, what do you want it to be, gay town, 289 00:22:02,439 --> 00:22:03,806 with all dudes in it " 290 00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:06,742 he's like, "no". 291 00:22:06,810 --> 00:22:10,012 i said, "man, all the dudes got to have some women". 292 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:15,117 you know what i mean. i... i love the thought of women. 293 00:22:15,185 --> 00:22:18,187 you know, so i want women in my town. 294 00:22:37,974 --> 00:22:42,278 this is the last girlfriend that i had. 295 00:22:42,345 --> 00:22:45,447 9 years ago. 296 00:22:45,515 --> 00:22:51,854 it's the last time i ever felt a woman, hugged a woman. 297 00:22:51,922 --> 00:22:53,522 kissed a woman. 298 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:56,926 the first 4 years of that 9 years 299 00:22:56,993 --> 00:23:01,163 was because i was a drunk and i didn't care to look for women. 300 00:23:01,231 --> 00:23:03,365 i'd just rather drink. 301 00:23:06,803 --> 00:23:11,840 and the last five years, i've been me being busy, 302 00:23:11,908 --> 00:23:17,046 trying to get back my senses, 303 00:23:17,113 --> 00:23:21,283 fine motor skills. 304 00:23:23,386 --> 00:23:26,922 i have to learn that all over again, sex. 305 00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:28,424 because i don't know-- 306 00:23:28,491 --> 00:23:31,226 i don't remember what it was like. 307 00:23:31,294 --> 00:23:35,664 that's what i used to do to my wife 308 00:23:35,732 --> 00:23:37,666 when i would come off the ship. 309 00:23:37,734 --> 00:23:40,569 come home and attack her. 310 00:23:40,637 --> 00:23:43,906 she'd be waiting. 311 00:23:43,974 --> 00:23:50,145 i wish i had somebody to come over, a girl preferably, 312 00:23:50,213 --> 00:23:53,916 to manipulate the female dolls. 313 00:23:53,984 --> 00:23:55,417 that'd be neat-- 314 00:23:55,485 --> 00:23:59,922 playing dolls with a girlfriend. 315 00:24:28,218 --> 00:24:34,823 my bedroom window was right across the street from a big house 316 00:24:34,891 --> 00:24:38,460 with a white picket fence 317 00:24:38,528 --> 00:24:43,032 and a big tall blonde lived over there. 318 00:24:44,434 --> 00:24:47,669 we would-- you know, if i was outside and she was outside, 319 00:24:47,737 --> 00:24:50,939 we'd, you know, meet at the picket fence. 320 00:24:51,007 --> 00:24:54,076 and the other neighbor, betty, would come over. 321 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:55,344 and then the three of us 322 00:24:55,412 --> 00:24:56,812 would be at the white picket fence. 323 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,882 so i dubbed it the gossip fence. 324 00:25:01,918 --> 00:25:03,552 it was great. 325 00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:06,088 she was just so beautiful. 326 00:25:06,156 --> 00:25:07,956 hi, i'm colleen, 327 00:25:08,024 --> 00:25:10,159 and this is my home. 328 00:25:10,226 --> 00:25:13,762 and this is where mark and i used to talk 329 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:18,500 and gossip by my fence. 330 00:25:18,568 --> 00:25:21,170 i like blondes to begin with, so. 331 00:25:21,237 --> 00:25:24,039 'cause of my ex-wife. 332 00:25:24,107 --> 00:25:26,809 she's blonde. 333 00:25:26,876 --> 00:25:30,145 you know, so i experienced the feeling of a crush. 334 00:25:30,213 --> 00:25:34,216 what it is to want someone. 335 00:25:34,284 --> 00:25:36,618 i have 3 children. i'm married. 336 00:25:36,686 --> 00:25:39,555 i didn't know about that. can't have her. 337 00:25:39,622 --> 00:25:41,423 you know, i just... 338 00:25:41,491 --> 00:25:44,593 oh, innocent me. 339 00:25:44,661 --> 00:25:46,695 i didn't understand it. 340 00:25:46,763 --> 00:25:50,165 i mean, i didn't want to steal her away. 341 00:25:50,233 --> 00:25:52,668 i just wanted to let her know 342 00:25:52,735 --> 00:25:57,339 that she was on some scrumptious. 343 00:25:57,407 --> 00:26:01,243 mark had shared with me, like, certain pictures 344 00:26:01,311 --> 00:26:04,246 that he had been taking, photographs, 345 00:26:04,314 --> 00:26:07,549 and telling me certain storylines that he had had. 346 00:26:07,617 --> 00:26:10,953 and i just kept telling him to go with it. 347 00:26:12,288 --> 00:26:15,958 my husband was just like, you know, you got to be aware. 348 00:26:16,025 --> 00:26:19,294 just be aware. 349 00:26:19,362 --> 00:26:20,696 she matches. 350 00:26:20,763 --> 00:26:22,865 i mean, her shirt matches her little sparkles. 351 00:26:22,932 --> 00:26:25,200 and that's what mark was probably thinking, too. 352 00:26:25,268 --> 00:26:28,570 i was like, yep, that's me. a barbie doll. 353 00:26:28,638 --> 00:26:30,806 this is the colleen doll. 354 00:26:30,874 --> 00:26:33,442 i did her hair last night. 355 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:39,214 um, when i wash it and all that crap 356 00:26:39,282 --> 00:26:41,016 i get all the chemicals out. 357 00:26:41,084 --> 00:26:45,420 i put more chemicals in by spraying it 358 00:26:45,488 --> 00:26:47,189 and combing it and stuff. 359 00:26:47,257 --> 00:26:52,294 but this is how it dries-- 360 00:26:52,362 --> 00:26:54,163 close to her head, 361 00:26:54,230 --> 00:26:58,200 not sticking out way out here like it was yesterday. 362 00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:04,139 and colleen has this nice little one piece of hair 363 00:27:04,207 --> 00:27:05,841 that always, you know-- 364 00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:08,944 a strand that always hangs down and stuff. 365 00:27:10,446 --> 00:27:13,282 hey. she looks hot. 366 00:27:13,349 --> 00:27:20,255 anyway, i'm putting manolo blahnik slingbacks on colleen 367 00:27:20,323 --> 00:27:23,192 'cause she deserves that. 368 00:27:24,561 --> 00:27:26,628 so we were just talking 369 00:27:26,696 --> 00:27:28,730 and he goes, "what would you name a store " 370 00:27:28,798 --> 00:27:31,800 there would used to be a store, and i used to love this store, 371 00:27:31,868 --> 00:27:33,635 but it actually went out of business. 372 00:27:33,703 --> 00:27:36,438 and it was pocket full of posies. 373 00:27:36,506 --> 00:27:37,973 so i built it. 374 00:27:38,041 --> 00:27:40,175 so i preserved colleen, 375 00:27:40,243 --> 00:27:42,811 and i can have her in my town. 376 00:27:53,289 --> 00:27:56,692 i'm making believe 377 00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,761 that you're in my arms 378 00:27:59,829 --> 00:28:05,167 though i know you're so far away 379 00:28:05,235 --> 00:28:11,106 making believe i'm talking to you 380 00:28:11,174 --> 00:28:16,078 wish you could hear what i say 381 00:28:16,145 --> 00:28:22,084 and here in the gloom of my lonely room 382 00:28:22,151 --> 00:28:27,856 we're dancing like we used to do 383 00:28:27,924 --> 00:28:34,630 making believe is just another way of dreaming 384 00:28:34,697 --> 00:28:38,600 so till my dreams come true 385 00:28:38,668 --> 00:28:42,738 i'll whisper good night 386 00:28:42,805 --> 00:28:45,807 turn out the light and kiss my pillow 387 00:28:45,875 --> 00:28:51,213 making believe it's you 388 00:28:52,982 --> 00:28:55,884 ok. 389 00:28:59,055 --> 00:29:01,823 mark had gotten into a conversation with me 390 00:29:01,891 --> 00:29:04,459 and he was showing me some certain pictures. 391 00:29:04,527 --> 00:29:06,595 i says, look, look, 392 00:29:06,663 --> 00:29:08,196 i even put your name on the car door, 393 00:29:08,264 --> 00:29:10,232 my name on that car door. 394 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,001 you're here, i'm here. 395 00:29:13,069 --> 00:29:15,039 and he was like, well, 396 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840 they're getting married on such and such day. 397 00:29:17,907 --> 00:29:23,111 i said, what, you know, we're engaged. 398 00:29:23,179 --> 00:29:24,579 as he was telling me, 399 00:29:24,647 --> 00:29:29,017 it was like he was telling me about it like it was somebody else, 400 00:29:29,085 --> 00:29:30,585 like it was two other people. 401 00:29:30,653 --> 00:29:33,722 and then when he told me it was us, 402 00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:36,625 and i was just like... what 403 00:29:36,693 --> 00:29:41,296 hello. you're talking to a real person, and there's dolls. 404 00:29:41,364 --> 00:29:44,933 you have to know when you have to stop. 405 00:29:48,938 --> 00:29:53,275 so i go outside sulking and stuff. 406 00:29:53,509 --> 00:29:58,814 and there's deja thorus, the belgian witch of marwencol. 407 00:29:59,015 --> 00:30:02,451 and i explained to her what went on with colleen. 408 00:30:02,685 --> 00:30:05,688 and just then, here comes colleen 409 00:30:05,723 --> 00:30:09,065 waving, "how you doing, mark " and everything. 410 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:16,366 i just figured she's gonna point her gloved finger at colleen 411 00:30:16,432 --> 00:30:19,234 and poof her out of her shoes, 412 00:30:19,302 --> 00:30:21,136 get rid of her forever out of marwencol. 413 00:30:21,204 --> 00:30:24,106 just get rid of her for me. 414 00:30:26,843 --> 00:30:28,944 so i didn't complain. 415 00:30:29,011 --> 00:30:31,413 so who's that 416 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:36,151 anna. that's anna, my favorite female doll. 417 00:30:36,219 --> 00:30:38,887 i wish that she would come alive. 418 00:30:38,955 --> 00:30:42,691 i won a photo contest 419 00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:45,727 and with that money, i bought anna. 420 00:30:45,795 --> 00:30:47,028 sorry. 421 00:30:47,096 --> 00:30:50,866 when i first got the doll, i fell in love with her face. 422 00:30:50,933 --> 00:30:53,435 so much that i had to paint makeup on her. 423 00:30:55,471 --> 00:30:59,040 and being that i'm alone in life, 424 00:30:59,108 --> 00:31:03,445 i figure at least my alter ego 425 00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:06,181 can have a girlfriend. 426 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,424 every night she's next to my bed, i stare at her 427 00:31:15,491 --> 00:31:18,760 and i wish and i wish and i wish 428 00:31:18,828 --> 00:31:23,398 that i could find a girl that looks just like her. 429 00:31:37,246 --> 00:31:38,847 when i first saw mark, 430 00:31:38,915 --> 00:31:41,950 probably a year before i actually talked to him, 431 00:31:42,018 --> 00:31:44,286 he's in this full world war ll regalia 432 00:31:44,353 --> 00:31:47,155 and it looked like he had a remote controlled truck or something, 433 00:31:47,223 --> 00:31:49,991 like one of these rc aficionados. 434 00:31:50,059 --> 00:31:51,693 my window actually looks out the curve, 435 00:31:51,761 --> 00:31:53,795 like right past us going toward his house. 436 00:31:53,863 --> 00:31:56,798 and so, i noticed every day around 2:00 or 3:00 437 00:31:56,866 --> 00:31:58,433 he would start coming home. 438 00:31:58,501 --> 00:32:00,001 so i set my long lens 439 00:32:00,069 --> 00:32:02,671 and tried to zoom in to figure out what was going on, 440 00:32:02,738 --> 00:32:04,039 if this was a remote control 441 00:32:04,106 --> 00:32:06,041 or is this grown man actually pulling a car 442 00:32:06,108 --> 00:32:07,843 or a truck or something. 443 00:32:07,910 --> 00:32:10,312 and then i decided that i was going to try to figure out a way 444 00:32:10,379 --> 00:32:11,613 to stop and talk to him. 445 00:32:11,681 --> 00:32:14,783 i saw him again when he was walking down the street. 446 00:32:14,851 --> 00:32:19,955 i drive way up ahead, i park maybe 75, 80 yards up ahead, 447 00:32:20,022 --> 00:32:21,523 and get out. 448 00:32:21,591 --> 00:32:24,059 i'm sitting there and i can sense him 449 00:32:24,126 --> 00:32:26,528 getting a little closer and closer. 450 00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:28,597 i go, "hey!" you know, "how's it going " 451 00:32:28,664 --> 00:32:30,765 he's like, "pretty good. pretty good". 452 00:32:30,833 --> 00:32:33,335 and he stops and proceeded to introduce me 453 00:32:33,402 --> 00:32:34,669 to the people in the jeep. 454 00:32:34,737 --> 00:32:36,471 there were 2 figures in the jeep. 455 00:32:36,539 --> 00:32:38,373 he says, this is actually so and so, 456 00:32:38,441 --> 00:32:40,141 who is someone i work with. 457 00:32:40,209 --> 00:32:43,578 and this other woman, she's actually an old neighbor of mine. 458 00:32:43,646 --> 00:32:45,547 i was like, has anybody else seen this stuff 459 00:32:45,615 --> 00:32:46,815 or talked to you, you know 460 00:32:46,883 --> 00:32:48,850 he goes, you're the first person to ever really stop 461 00:32:48,918 --> 00:32:51,253 and say, that's interesting. what are you doing 462 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,155 or where are you going or what's that all about 463 00:32:56,592 --> 00:33:00,896 the next day, this envelope stuffed with photos. 464 00:33:00,963 --> 00:33:04,833 and i opened them up, and i was just astonished 465 00:33:04,901 --> 00:33:08,470 by the realism and the feeling. 466 00:33:10,072 --> 00:33:12,574 when i went to his house after i saw the photos, 467 00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,109 i said, now, do you have anymore of these 468 00:33:14,176 --> 00:33:16,811 he goes, oh, i've got thousands of them. 469 00:33:16,879 --> 00:33:18,113 yeah, sure. 470 00:33:20,550 --> 00:33:21,950 'cause i'm a photographer, i was, 471 00:33:22,018 --> 00:33:24,920 how do you manage all your assets and your negatives 472 00:33:24,987 --> 00:33:27,489 he said, i don't even keep the negatives. 473 00:33:27,557 --> 00:33:30,358 the negatives, i throw them away. 474 00:33:31,727 --> 00:33:33,595 i asked him about metering, things like that. 475 00:33:33,663 --> 00:33:36,498 he said, you know, well, the light meter's actually broken. 476 00:33:36,566 --> 00:33:39,234 so basically what i do, is i set up these shots 477 00:33:39,302 --> 00:33:43,638 and shoot them, then send them off to a mail order lab, 478 00:33:43,706 --> 00:33:45,407 which is where he got all his processing done. 479 00:33:45,474 --> 00:33:48,209 and wait a couple weeks, he'd come back, 480 00:33:48,277 --> 00:33:51,112 they'd be overexposed 2 or 3 stops or under, 481 00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:53,715 and he's just shoot the entire thing over again. 482 00:33:53,783 --> 00:33:56,818 it's funny. i don't think he ever even thought of himself 483 00:33:56,886 --> 00:33:58,186 as being a photographer. 484 00:33:58,254 --> 00:34:01,890 he was just using a camera as a tool to communicate. 485 00:34:01,958 --> 00:34:04,159 definitely didn't identify himself as an artist. 486 00:34:04,226 --> 00:34:06,461 it was all such a genuine thing. 487 00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:11,132 and i just-- i felt like it was too amazing 488 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,568 to not share with other people. 489 00:34:19,809 --> 00:34:22,711 the story, meanwhile, was just going on in my head, 490 00:34:22,778 --> 00:34:29,718 like, ok, the ss heard about my town, my bar. 491 00:34:31,687 --> 00:34:36,291 they're just driving around aimlessly looking for marwencol. 492 00:34:36,359 --> 00:34:38,393 looking for the town they heard of, 493 00:34:38,461 --> 00:34:40,428 the bar they heard of, the women they heard of. 494 00:34:40,496 --> 00:34:42,964 that the marwencol women were beautiful. 495 00:34:43,032 --> 00:34:45,433 they're the most beautiful girls in belgium. 496 00:34:45,501 --> 00:34:51,740 so, eventually, the ss find marwencol. 497 00:34:52,808 --> 00:34:55,310 and there's nobody around. 498 00:34:55,378 --> 00:34:59,147 we all decided to go to the bar, 499 00:34:59,215 --> 00:35:03,485 hogancamp's catfight club, 2 miles away 500 00:35:03,552 --> 00:35:05,487 and hide in there. 501 00:35:05,554 --> 00:35:10,025 and the only one left in town was ruth. 502 00:35:10,092 --> 00:35:12,494 she had decided to stay behind, 503 00:35:12,561 --> 00:35:14,863 watch over the church. 504 00:35:14,930 --> 00:35:17,732 and the ss came in. 505 00:35:18,734 --> 00:35:22,137 and they interrogated ruthie. 506 00:35:22,204 --> 00:35:24,439 and these guys wanted to know where the bar was. 507 00:35:24,507 --> 00:35:27,976 "where's the bar i want a drink". 508 00:35:28,044 --> 00:35:34,082 'cause i remember that's the way i was when i was an alcoholic. 509 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:36,051 "gah! i want a drink!" 510 00:35:36,118 --> 00:35:41,623 you know. i remember that. 511 00:35:41,691 --> 00:35:44,826 and so, she still wouldn't tell 512 00:35:44,894 --> 00:35:47,896 the ss where my bar was, where i'd moved the bar. 513 00:35:47,963 --> 00:35:51,633 so they killed her. 514 00:35:51,701 --> 00:35:54,335 i heard that i'm killed off. 515 00:35:54,403 --> 00:35:55,303 yes. 516 00:35:55,371 --> 00:35:56,438 i don't remember you ever telling me. 517 00:35:56,505 --> 00:35:59,074 you were in the church 518 00:35:59,141 --> 00:36:03,111 when the ss came and found marwencol. 519 00:36:03,179 --> 00:36:07,382 they wanted to drink. they wanted to party. you know. 520 00:36:07,450 --> 00:36:09,117 there was nobody there but you. 521 00:36:09,185 --> 00:36:12,987 you wouldn't tell them where the bar was, 522 00:36:13,055 --> 00:36:16,291 so they killed you. 523 00:36:17,793 --> 00:36:20,161 the bad guy killed you. 524 00:36:22,398 --> 00:36:25,800 and then they started walking out of the church. 525 00:36:25,868 --> 00:36:31,873 and the professor, who stayed behind to watch over ruthie, 526 00:36:31,941 --> 00:36:36,578 he was picking off the ss. he got three of them. 527 00:36:36,645 --> 00:36:40,582 so the ss scared back into the church. 528 00:36:40,649 --> 00:36:43,985 they were gonna stay there until they found my bar. 529 00:36:44,053 --> 00:36:45,589 and the professor was just-- 530 00:36:45,590 --> 00:36:47,490 every time one of them would poke their head out, 531 00:36:47,556 --> 00:36:50,558 he was picking them off. 532 00:36:50,626 --> 00:36:52,694 and that was good. 533 00:36:55,197 --> 00:36:59,167 if mark is angry, he definitely takes it out on his town, 534 00:36:59,235 --> 00:37:01,169 which i guess is a good outlet, you know. 535 00:37:01,237 --> 00:37:02,604 instead of taking out in real life, 536 00:37:02,671 --> 00:37:04,372 he takes it out on his town. 537 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,474 and he gets a lot of anger out that way. 538 00:37:06,542 --> 00:37:09,477 and the ss takes the brunt of a lot of it. 539 00:37:16,352 --> 00:37:19,988 i think a lot of it stems from his attack, too. 540 00:37:20,055 --> 00:37:22,991 he's got a lot of anger to let go, 541 00:37:23,058 --> 00:37:25,393 especially for groups, people who hate. 542 00:37:25,461 --> 00:37:28,630 and it definitely shows in his town. 543 00:37:33,936 --> 00:37:36,371 anything pisses him off in life, 544 00:37:36,438 --> 00:37:39,541 that's an outlet for mark to take it out 545 00:37:39,608 --> 00:37:42,143 and someone in that town's gonna get it. 546 00:37:49,718 --> 00:37:53,188 i created my own therapies. 547 00:37:53,255 --> 00:37:55,523 and this was one of them. 548 00:37:55,591 --> 00:37:58,893 wow. 549 00:37:58,961 --> 00:38:02,664 i could act out my revenge and anger and rage 550 00:38:02,731 --> 00:38:04,199 in photographs. 551 00:38:04,266 --> 00:38:07,101 it's nice to be able to-- 552 00:38:07,169 --> 00:38:09,838 you know, somebody hurts you, 553 00:38:09,905 --> 00:38:13,007 you can, without any violence, 554 00:38:13,075 --> 00:38:14,943 you know, get back at them. you know. 555 00:38:15,010 --> 00:38:16,144 correct. right. 556 00:38:16,212 --> 00:38:18,580 whether it be on paper or in film. 557 00:38:18,647 --> 00:38:20,515 yep. yep. 558 00:38:20,583 --> 00:38:24,552 i still really miss somebody to talk to 559 00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:26,988 about still the way i feel. 560 00:38:27,056 --> 00:38:29,190 so you're not in therapy now 561 00:38:29,258 --> 00:38:31,392 oh, no. no. 562 00:38:49,678 --> 00:38:55,083 this guy is tod, the editor for "esopus" magazine. 563 00:38:55,150 --> 00:38:58,720 good friend of mine named david naugle, 564 00:38:58,787 --> 00:39:01,656 he was at a party and said-- had his mac with him, 565 00:39:01,724 --> 00:39:04,425 and he said, i've got to show you something. 566 00:39:04,493 --> 00:39:06,761 and i thought it was fantastic. 567 00:39:06,829 --> 00:39:09,297 just like nothing i'd ever seen before. 568 00:39:09,365 --> 00:39:12,300 and the story, although i didn't know much of it at that point, 569 00:39:12,368 --> 00:39:14,269 was fascinating to me, too. 570 00:39:14,336 --> 00:39:16,838 the magazine is-- the whole purpose of it is 571 00:39:16,906 --> 00:39:20,942 to present a space that's completely uncommercial, 572 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:23,177 completely unmediated, and completely unfiltered 573 00:39:23,245 --> 00:39:26,514 for artists to present their work to, 574 00:39:26,582 --> 00:39:29,817 hopefully, a fairly broad general public. 575 00:39:31,153 --> 00:39:33,688 to find somebody like mark who's doing this amazing work 576 00:39:33,756 --> 00:39:35,990 that no one has seen ever, 577 00:39:36,058 --> 00:39:37,593 except maybe a few people he worked with 578 00:39:37,594 --> 00:39:38,894 at the anchorage and david, 579 00:39:38,961 --> 00:39:42,997 was just like a gift from the gods, you know. 580 00:39:43,065 --> 00:39:45,366 does it feel like therapy at all to you, 581 00:39:45,434 --> 00:39:47,201 or is it all just art 582 00:39:47,269 --> 00:39:48,937 it constantly keeps my mind-- 583 00:39:49,004 --> 00:39:52,407 it keeps my mind constantly working. 584 00:39:52,474 --> 00:39:54,075 uh-huh. 585 00:39:54,143 --> 00:39:55,410 i mean, the minute i met him, 586 00:39:55,477 --> 00:39:56,711 i was like, oh, he's like a nice guy. 587 00:39:56,779 --> 00:39:58,713 he's just a wonderful nice guy. 588 00:39:58,781 --> 00:40:01,584 he's so much further along than most of us would be 589 00:40:01,585 --> 00:40:02,885 in that situation. 590 00:40:02,952 --> 00:40:08,556 and really because of what he'd decided to do with his life. 591 00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:15,229 this idea of someone using art to sort of access something they lost 592 00:40:15,297 --> 00:40:18,933 or to sort of regain something they lost 593 00:40:19,001 --> 00:40:22,637 was just so beautiful and so moving to me. 594 00:40:22,705 --> 00:40:24,238 and then the work was so great. 595 00:40:24,306 --> 00:40:27,742 it would be a great story if his work were, you know, nice, 596 00:40:27,810 --> 00:40:29,277 but his work is strong. 597 00:40:29,345 --> 00:40:30,411 it's strong stuff. 598 00:40:30,479 --> 00:40:33,047 so that just made it such a no-brainer. 599 00:40:33,115 --> 00:40:37,251 of course we're gonna do this. 600 00:40:37,319 --> 00:40:41,022 meanwhile, back in marwencol... 601 00:40:41,090 --> 00:40:48,363 the town germans and i came up with a plan 602 00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:53,067 that i would pretend to be the town germans' prisoner. 603 00:40:53,135 --> 00:40:55,970 they would bring me to the church. 604 00:40:56,038 --> 00:40:59,307 and that way we could infiltrate the ss, 605 00:40:59,375 --> 00:41:03,211 and then just get our town back. 606 00:41:03,278 --> 00:41:04,579 yeah, but that didn't happen 607 00:41:04,646 --> 00:41:06,180 because the ss took me, 608 00:41:06,248 --> 00:41:09,751 sent the town germans out of the church. 609 00:41:09,818 --> 00:41:13,087 they tied me up, the ss tied me up. 610 00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:16,724 then started interrogating me. where's my bar 611 00:41:16,792 --> 00:41:19,260 where did i move the bar we want to drink! 612 00:41:19,328 --> 00:41:21,195 that's what they kept on, 613 00:41:21,263 --> 00:41:23,698 with anger and stuff like that. 614 00:41:23,766 --> 00:41:26,934 then started cutting me. 615 00:41:27,002 --> 00:41:30,138 and on my alter ego, 616 00:41:30,205 --> 00:41:36,210 i put a scar down the right side of my face, 617 00:41:36,278 --> 00:41:39,947 because this is the side 618 00:41:40,015 --> 00:41:43,751 that was damaged in real life on me. 619 00:42:09,778 --> 00:42:12,613 there's one major difference i found immediately 620 00:42:12,681 --> 00:42:15,950 between mark's work and a lot of other contemporary art 621 00:42:16,018 --> 00:42:18,286 that i look at and see and life, for that matter. 622 00:42:18,353 --> 00:42:20,855 that is, particularly when you're using dolls 623 00:42:20,923 --> 00:42:24,425 or some kind of-- you're re-photographing something, 624 00:42:24,493 --> 00:42:27,428 there's generally a very strong sense of irony in the work. 625 00:42:27,496 --> 00:42:29,030 there's a distance. 626 00:42:29,098 --> 00:42:30,932 and it's kind of a little wink-winky. 627 00:42:30,999 --> 00:42:33,801 like, i'm photographing dolls. isn't that, you know, 628 00:42:33,869 --> 00:42:37,271 funny or subversive or clever or whatever. 629 00:42:37,339 --> 00:42:38,242 and i just-- 630 00:42:38,243 --> 00:42:41,343 the thing that struck me immediately about mark's work 631 00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:44,345 is that there's no irony in it as far as i can tell. 632 00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:46,647 i mean, he's a very clever guy, very smart, 633 00:42:46,715 --> 00:42:48,149 but he's in the work. 634 00:42:48,217 --> 00:42:52,954 he's not using the work as a tool to do something else. 635 00:42:53,021 --> 00:42:55,723 the work is him. 636 00:42:55,791 --> 00:42:57,692 it's a very authentic feeling to me, 637 00:42:57,759 --> 00:42:59,327 which is a wonderful thing. 638 00:42:59,394 --> 00:43:01,462 you don't see it that often. 639 00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:14,842 so then, back at my bar, 640 00:43:14,910 --> 00:43:18,779 all the dolls in my bar heard 641 00:43:18,847 --> 00:43:23,417 that the ss had me tied up and they were cutting me to ribbons 642 00:43:23,485 --> 00:43:25,786 and beating me up. 643 00:43:25,854 --> 00:43:31,692 so anna didn't want to wait around for another brilliant plan 644 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,362 that the townspeople had come up with. 645 00:43:34,429 --> 00:43:37,398 so she took chris and jacqueline 646 00:43:37,466 --> 00:43:41,736 and traded their uniforms for barbie clothes. 647 00:43:43,939 --> 00:43:48,242 they went into town with their hands behind their back. 648 00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:51,779 each hand was carrying a pistol. 649 00:43:51,847 --> 00:43:55,683 and they waltzed into town. 650 00:44:00,355 --> 00:44:05,092 anna grabbed my revolver from the town german, 651 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,930 and the 3 of the girls went into the church. 652 00:44:08,997 --> 00:44:13,534 just like precision surgeons, 653 00:44:13,602 --> 00:44:19,473 they eliminated the ss. 654 00:44:29,084 --> 00:44:33,754 they only wounded the worst ss guy, 655 00:44:33,822 --> 00:44:35,890 because they had plans for him. 656 00:44:35,958 --> 00:44:38,292 they wanted to save him for later. 657 00:44:40,095 --> 00:44:43,331 and anna came over and she cut me down 658 00:44:43,398 --> 00:44:45,266 and held me until the jeep came 659 00:44:45,334 --> 00:44:48,736 to pick us up and bring us back to my bar. 660 00:44:51,740 --> 00:44:58,779 her coming and saving me from the ss 661 00:44:58,847 --> 00:45:03,417 proved to me that she loved me. 662 00:45:03,485 --> 00:45:08,055 it proved to me that she felt the same way i felt about her. 663 00:45:11,994 --> 00:45:15,997 so the call went out to all the town's barbies. 664 00:45:16,064 --> 00:45:19,967 we did it before and we can do it again 665 00:45:20,035 --> 00:45:22,003 and we will do it again 666 00:45:22,070 --> 00:45:24,705 we've got a heck of a job to do 667 00:45:24,773 --> 00:45:26,941 but who better to see it through 668 00:45:27,009 --> 00:45:30,678 we did it before and we can do it again 669 00:45:30,746 --> 00:45:32,980 and we will do it again 670 00:45:33,048 --> 00:45:34,849 we're one for all and we're all for one 671 00:45:34,916 --> 00:45:37,652 we'll get to lickin' before we're done 672 00:45:40,489 --> 00:45:48,362 then svetlana takes a pistol while the ss guy's still alive, 673 00:45:48,430 --> 00:45:54,135 good old-fashioned eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth sort of thing. 674 00:45:59,041 --> 00:46:04,412 and still smiling, the women of marwencol 675 00:46:04,479 --> 00:46:06,814 had gotten their revenge. 676 00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:22,196 this is no town that you can push over and take over. 677 00:46:22,264 --> 00:46:27,468 this is what happens to people who mess with us. 678 00:46:38,447 --> 00:46:41,215 so this is my wife, anna. 679 00:46:43,785 --> 00:46:46,354 when'd you guys get married 680 00:46:46,421 --> 00:46:49,757 march 26. 681 00:46:49,825 --> 00:46:52,693 i still remember that, too. 682 00:46:52,761 --> 00:46:57,865 i don't remember when i got married in real life. 683 00:46:57,933 --> 00:47:03,871 i mean, i remember that it was 8-4, '84. 684 00:47:03,939 --> 00:47:08,175 but i don't recollect that wedding 685 00:47:08,243 --> 00:47:15,483 as much as i recollect the one that my alter ego got married to here. 686 00:47:20,622 --> 00:47:23,958 and it's weird when i say "my wife," you know. 687 00:47:24,025 --> 00:47:27,995 it's like i remember saying that back when i was married, 688 00:47:28,063 --> 00:47:35,102 but it just-- it doesn't hold any, you know-- i don't know. 689 00:47:50,786 --> 00:47:54,855 anna's competition is deja thorus, 690 00:47:54,923 --> 00:47:57,892 the belgian witch of marwencol. 691 00:47:57,959 --> 00:48:01,262 she's competing for my love. 692 00:48:01,329 --> 00:48:04,432 deja thorus was in love with me. 693 00:48:04,499 --> 00:48:06,033 she's still in love with me. 694 00:48:06,101 --> 00:48:09,737 she can't get me, even though she brought me back in time 695 00:48:09,805 --> 00:48:12,773 so i wouldn't meet anna and all that stuff. 696 00:48:12,841 --> 00:48:15,176 but i did meet anna. anna and i kissed. 697 00:48:15,243 --> 00:48:18,179 and while we were connected on our kiss, 698 00:48:18,246 --> 00:48:21,015 we remembered all the love we once had for each other, 699 00:48:21,082 --> 00:48:25,920 so deja thorus' spell was broken. 700 00:48:25,987 --> 00:48:28,556 this is deja thorus' time machine. 701 00:48:28,623 --> 00:48:31,258 and i'm proud of it. 702 00:48:31,326 --> 00:48:36,864 it was an old vcr that ate one of my best porno tapes. 703 00:48:36,932 --> 00:48:39,834 so i had to extract the tape somehow. 704 00:48:39,901 --> 00:48:45,139 so i took an mp3 player stand and made that the seat. 705 00:48:45,207 --> 00:48:50,177 and found an old cell phone keypad on the roadway 706 00:48:50,245 --> 00:48:51,612 when i was walking. 707 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,281 so i glued that on this thing that i put there. 708 00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:59,053 and before i knew it, there it was, the time machine. 709 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:17,738 tod showed my stuff in the city. 710 00:49:17,806 --> 00:49:24,011 and he tells me that there's a curator of an art gallery 711 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:28,449 that wants to display my photos. 712 00:49:30,986 --> 00:49:33,654 i did feel a very strong responsibility 713 00:49:33,722 --> 00:49:36,323 and a concern about, you know, 714 00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:39,393 will the show be too much 715 00:49:39,461 --> 00:49:41,529 what if this leads to, you know, attention 716 00:49:41,596 --> 00:49:44,532 and it's bad for him in some way 717 00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,401 will the photographs look ok will the space be ok 718 00:49:47,469 --> 00:49:49,904 will he like the space will he be comfortable here 719 00:49:49,971 --> 00:49:51,305 will he make to the city 720 00:49:51,373 --> 00:49:54,074 he hasn't been here for a long, long time. 721 00:49:54,142 --> 00:49:56,877 he hasn't been out of kingston for a long, long time. 722 00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:00,881 i'm happy about the whole thing 723 00:50:00,949 --> 00:50:06,086 except the talk of me taking something so sentimental to me 724 00:50:06,154 --> 00:50:10,391 and having it on display 100 miles away. 725 00:50:10,458 --> 00:50:14,562 it's a very big decision for me to make. 726 00:50:48,163 --> 00:50:50,731 women want to meet the artist. 727 00:50:50,799 --> 00:50:54,401 they don't want to hear that the artist couldn't make it. 728 00:50:56,204 --> 00:50:59,039 they want to meet the artist. 729 00:50:59,107 --> 00:51:02,810 and, of course, if some big spendy guy comes in 730 00:51:02,877 --> 00:51:05,179 and he's looking for something, 731 00:51:05,246 --> 00:51:08,882 he has tons of money, mad money, 732 00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:12,886 and he wants to meet the artist, 733 00:51:12,954 --> 00:51:15,189 he doesn't want to hear, oh, the artist couldn't make it, 734 00:51:15,256 --> 00:51:20,594 he's too afraid to come to the city. 735 00:51:20,662 --> 00:51:24,531 yeah. so, i'm still afraid to go to the city, 736 00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:28,068 but that's where courage comes in. 737 00:51:28,136 --> 00:51:35,242 courage. i was taught that courage is to face the thing, 738 00:51:35,310 --> 00:51:37,611 to do the thing, 739 00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:44,284 even though i have such great fear of doing it. 740 00:52:14,983 --> 00:52:20,054 anna comes back to town and she's all pissy 741 00:52:20,121 --> 00:52:21,555 'cause i didn't want to go. 742 00:52:21,623 --> 00:52:25,592 'cause i have mental problems. 743 00:52:25,660 --> 00:52:30,964 i'm still disturbed by the ss tying me up. 744 00:52:41,076 --> 00:52:46,513 and to get a close-up of her looking at me 745 00:52:46,581 --> 00:52:50,184 and then scooting on over, and now we're kissing. 746 00:52:55,390 --> 00:52:59,560 so that's the whole outcome of that. 747 00:53:07,836 --> 00:53:11,171 it gets stranger by the moment, doesn't it 748 00:53:13,808 --> 00:53:17,077 218 pair... 749 00:53:17,145 --> 00:53:20,748 of women's essence. 750 00:53:20,815 --> 00:53:22,349 i mean, they wore these. 751 00:53:22,417 --> 00:53:26,920 they scuffed them up, i can tell if they were a smoker or not. 752 00:53:26,988 --> 00:53:31,658 i should be a shoe detective or something. 753 00:53:31,726 --> 00:53:35,295 yep. some of these... 754 00:53:35,363 --> 00:53:39,500 oh, none of these are ones i've stole. 755 00:53:39,567 --> 00:53:43,103 they were all given to me by women. 756 00:53:43,171 --> 00:53:46,406 they were. i'm not kidding. 757 00:53:46,474 --> 00:53:49,643 like, colleen gave me a bag full of shoes. 758 00:53:49,711 --> 00:53:51,845 colleen. 759 00:54:01,389 --> 00:54:05,492 the first night we went home to his apartment 760 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,194 when he got out of the hospital, 761 00:54:07,262 --> 00:54:12,866 he sees this whole shelf of high heels. 762 00:54:12,934 --> 00:54:16,403 and he says to me, 763 00:54:16,471 --> 00:54:18,539 "do i have a girlfriend that lives here " 764 00:54:18,606 --> 00:54:21,441 and i said, "no". 765 00:54:21,509 --> 00:54:25,145 and he says, "well, what's with all the shoes 766 00:54:25,213 --> 00:54:28,182 and i said, "well, mark, those are your shoes. 767 00:54:28,249 --> 00:54:29,950 "you buy them, you collect them. 768 00:54:30,018 --> 00:54:33,053 i think you wear them". 769 00:54:43,965 --> 00:54:50,037 if i tell people who i am and what i'm about, 770 00:54:50,104 --> 00:54:52,039 i'm true to myself. 771 00:54:52,106 --> 00:54:54,675 that means i'm not lying to myself. 772 00:54:56,544 --> 00:55:01,381 what they do with that is on them. 773 00:55:01,449 --> 00:55:04,518 i'm not accountable for their feelings 774 00:55:04,586 --> 00:55:09,857 or how they perceive it, make faces and stuff. 775 00:55:09,924 --> 00:55:14,294 that's when i close in and discover who i am. 776 00:55:14,362 --> 00:55:16,797 and that's all part of the finding out who i am 777 00:55:16,865 --> 00:55:20,334 part of this new life, 778 00:55:20,401 --> 00:55:23,337 second life i was given. 779 00:55:44,125 --> 00:55:46,960 this is a b.a.r. it's a browning automatic rifle. 780 00:55:47,028 --> 00:55:50,831 it's .30 caliber. it has a mean punch. 781 00:55:50,899 --> 00:55:52,900 she's got two .45s. 782 00:55:52,967 --> 00:55:58,238 i've got 2 six shooters and one .45 shoulder holster. 783 00:56:02,377 --> 00:56:08,015 when i walk the 2 miles to the store... 784 00:56:09,817 --> 00:56:11,818 when i feel apprehensive 785 00:56:11,886 --> 00:56:18,525 and i look down at the jeep and i know that they'll protect me. 786 00:56:18,593 --> 00:56:19,593 it's dolls. 787 00:56:19,661 --> 00:56:21,328 there's a lot of firepower in there. 788 00:56:21,396 --> 00:56:23,330 and i make sure i put the correct weapons 789 00:56:23,398 --> 00:56:27,034 with the most firepower in there before i take my walks. 790 00:56:27,101 --> 00:56:30,304 it's just in case. 791 00:56:39,647 --> 00:56:41,715 people don't know i'm disabled. 792 00:56:41,783 --> 00:56:44,718 they don't know that i don't think correctly. 793 00:56:44,786 --> 00:56:47,721 they don't know that i have psychological problems 794 00:56:47,789 --> 00:56:51,858 like i'm always on guard, always looking over my shoulder, 795 00:56:51,926 --> 00:56:54,661 always worried about being attacked again. 796 00:56:59,867 --> 00:57:01,635 they just see me on the outside. 797 00:57:01,703 --> 00:57:05,672 outside, yeah, i'm trying to act like a normal human 798 00:57:05,740 --> 00:57:08,008 so i don't get attacked again 799 00:57:08,076 --> 00:57:11,545 by the stronger ones. 800 00:57:16,684 --> 00:57:21,688 i figured i'd go out and see what was going on in town. 801 00:57:23,491 --> 00:57:27,995 while i'm focused in on what's going on in my town, 802 00:57:28,062 --> 00:57:35,369 this ss asshole snuck up behind me. 803 00:57:35,436 --> 00:57:37,671 and i don't hear him. 804 00:57:42,143 --> 00:57:46,613 brings me back to town 805 00:57:46,681 --> 00:57:48,815 where all of his buddies are, 806 00:57:48,883 --> 00:57:53,453 and five of them figured they'd have a little fun with me. 807 00:58:00,128 --> 00:58:03,730 and then it all comes back again-- 808 00:58:03,798 --> 00:58:09,369 the attack, those five scumbags, how bad i want to kill them. 809 00:58:11,372 --> 00:58:15,542 i hope mark is not always haunted by this experience, 810 00:58:15,610 --> 00:58:18,812 but unfortunately, this kind of thing 811 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:23,250 doesn't leave you just because the case is over. 812 00:58:24,752 --> 00:58:29,022 i don't know if i'll start ripping them apart. 813 00:58:29,090 --> 00:58:32,526 i don't know if i'm gonna want to kill them. 814 00:58:32,593 --> 00:58:37,597 and i don't know if it's gonna take, like, 8 police officers 815 00:58:37,665 --> 00:58:39,132 to shoot me. 816 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:44,071 there's no fair fighting person that's been jumped on from behind 817 00:58:44,138 --> 00:58:47,808 and every memory kicked out of his head. 818 00:58:47,875 --> 00:58:51,378 there's no etiquette to fighting after that. 819 00:58:55,249 --> 00:58:57,717 sorry, i get a little angry and stuff 820 00:58:57,785 --> 00:58:59,886 thinking about it. 821 00:59:03,958 --> 00:59:08,795 after they get done kicking and punching me, 822 00:59:08,863 --> 00:59:11,131 they drag me in the church. 823 00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:15,735 figured they'd have further fun. 824 00:59:15,803 --> 00:59:20,140 there's that asshole. happy what he did. 825 00:59:20,208 --> 00:59:24,911 he's like, "good. kill that hogancamp". 826 00:59:29,283 --> 00:59:33,787 so deja thorus sensed that i was in danger. 827 00:59:33,855 --> 00:59:36,523 so she hopped in her time machine 828 00:59:36,591 --> 00:59:39,993 and used it just to transport herself 829 00:59:40,061 --> 00:59:44,030 as fast as a plasma jet of a blazar, 830 00:59:44,098 --> 00:59:49,503 which travels at 99.9% the speed of light. 831 00:59:52,573 --> 00:59:58,612 like i imaged that it happened in real life. 832 01:00:01,916 --> 01:00:03,617 there she is. 833 01:00:03,684 --> 01:00:05,652 my savior. 834 01:00:15,963 --> 01:00:20,600 and then, in like a belgian accent girl voice, 835 01:00:20,668 --> 01:00:24,804 "oh, my love. why would anybody do such a thing to you " 836 01:00:27,275 --> 01:00:30,644 since i can't remember 837 01:00:30,711 --> 01:00:35,815 what happened in the bar, what led them to beat me up, 838 01:00:35,883 --> 01:00:42,022 i was told that i told them that i was a crossdresser. 839 01:00:43,357 --> 01:00:48,395 so that's what i have been told happened. 840 01:00:48,462 --> 01:00:51,631 so i think they... 841 01:00:51,699 --> 01:00:54,505 i believe they attacked me 842 01:00:54,506 --> 01:00:58,406 because i mentioned that i was a crossdresser. 843 01:01:01,676 --> 01:01:04,044 we were in the bar. the guy said 844 01:01:04,111 --> 01:01:07,180 he was a crossdresser and everything. 845 01:01:07,248 --> 01:01:10,083 and i started figuring out he was gonna get it. 846 01:01:11,686 --> 01:01:14,621 i think freddy wanted to beat his ass. 847 01:01:14,689 --> 01:01:16,957 he was saying, "i have no problems with anybody. 848 01:01:17,024 --> 01:01:20,026 i have no problems with anybody". 849 01:01:20,094 --> 01:01:21,995 that guy didn't do nothing to anybody. 850 01:01:22,063 --> 01:01:25,165 i could tell he was being set-up. 851 01:01:41,849 --> 01:01:43,717 man. 852 01:01:43,784 --> 01:01:46,620 when in doubt, bring them all. 853 01:01:48,522 --> 01:01:51,124 got to bring this asshole. 854 01:01:55,329 --> 01:01:58,198 i don't know if i'll use all these, 855 01:01:58,266 --> 01:01:59,666 but i bring them anyway, 856 01:01:59,734 --> 01:02:01,401 just in case. 857 01:02:36,937 --> 01:02:40,607 i'm really, really attempting to have a positive look-- 858 01:02:40,675 --> 01:02:43,943 outlook on everything. 859 01:02:46,347 --> 01:02:50,517 but it's that subconscious fear that i still have, 860 01:02:50,584 --> 01:02:53,086 you know, about being hurt again. 861 01:02:53,154 --> 01:02:54,621 that's the biggest fear. 862 01:02:54,689 --> 01:02:55,989 i don't want to get hurt 863 01:02:56,057 --> 01:03:00,093 mentally or emotionally or physically ever again. 864 01:03:10,771 --> 01:03:13,973 so that's why, thank god, there's that other voice in my head 865 01:03:14,041 --> 01:03:18,278 that still didn't get broke in that attack 866 01:03:18,346 --> 01:03:21,147 that tells that side that's so worried, 867 01:03:21,215 --> 01:03:26,152 "hey, come on, don't think about all that stuff. 868 01:03:26,220 --> 01:03:29,356 "come on, give it a go, man. 869 01:03:29,423 --> 01:03:36,563 do the show like you do marwencol the story". 870 01:04:01,956 --> 01:04:06,926 and since i was given a second chance at life, 871 01:04:06,994 --> 01:04:12,332 i want to live this rest of my life to the fullest. 872 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,001 i'm gonna do things i've always wanted to do 873 01:04:15,069 --> 01:04:16,803 but was always afraid to do. 874 01:04:16,871 --> 01:04:19,172 i'm gonna do them now. 875 01:04:21,809 --> 01:04:24,444 you know, like wear pantyhose, wear a skirt, 876 01:04:24,512 --> 01:04:26,413 you know, wear heels and stuff. 877 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,248 it's just-- it's good feeling. 878 01:04:28,315 --> 01:04:33,319 i mean, i haven't got up the gumption to walk in public. 879 01:04:49,837 --> 01:04:51,304 i don't know how to be smooth. 880 01:04:51,372 --> 01:04:54,174 that's my-- i mean, i don't know if i want to look like james bond 881 01:04:54,241 --> 01:04:57,777 or if i just want to look like a hip artist. 882 01:04:57,845 --> 01:05:00,346 i don't know. 883 01:05:03,818 --> 01:05:09,088 but i'm representing myself down there. 884 01:05:09,156 --> 01:05:11,491 and i don't want to wear anything stupid. 885 01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:16,029 'cause the first impression is a lasting impression. 886 01:05:16,096 --> 01:05:19,799 you know, that's what leads me all the way back to the suit. 887 01:05:21,936 --> 01:05:25,939 but really-- what i'd really like to wear 888 01:05:26,006 --> 01:05:30,210 is that long chiffon slit skirt. 889 01:05:35,583 --> 01:05:37,951 but that's what i'd like to wear 890 01:05:38,018 --> 01:05:40,954 in my fantasy world. 891 01:05:54,168 --> 01:05:58,438 these are meant for women's dolls legs, but they fit mine. 892 01:06:01,942 --> 01:06:09,182 my figure, 2 or 3 times i put tights under his pants 893 01:06:09,250 --> 01:06:10,617 just to see how that felt. 894 01:06:10,684 --> 01:06:12,752 and i was like, no, i'm still-- 895 01:06:12,820 --> 01:06:16,289 i don't want to come out of the closet in my town yet. 896 01:06:16,357 --> 01:06:22,595 but my girls, they know me better than i know me. 897 01:07:04,038 --> 01:07:08,775 you're gonna let me loose in a land of people that are like me-- 898 01:07:08,842 --> 01:07:10,910 greenwich village, 899 01:07:10,978 --> 01:07:13,746 the weirdest place on the planet, 900 01:07:13,814 --> 01:07:17,784 where i could walk in high heels and nobody would care. 901 01:07:17,851 --> 01:07:20,620 some dude would say, "hey, nice shoes". "thanks, man". 902 01:07:20,688 --> 01:07:22,455 you know what i mean 903 01:07:22,523 --> 01:07:23,957 "i like your shoes, too". 904 01:07:24,024 --> 01:07:27,060 you know what i mean it's, like, people like me. 905 01:07:27,127 --> 01:07:30,530 nobody cares. they're all artists and stuff down there. 906 01:07:36,270 --> 01:07:40,074 so for me, it's gonna be that's what i envisioned, 907 01:07:40,075 --> 01:07:41,875 that's what i project. 908 01:07:54,254 --> 01:07:56,389 i put them like this. 909 01:07:56,457 --> 01:07:58,891 you know, pull the blanket over. 910 01:07:58,959 --> 01:08:01,294 then make sure that nobody's hanging off 911 01:08:01,362 --> 01:08:03,196 and they're all tucked in. 912 01:08:03,263 --> 01:08:04,831 because if they're happy, 913 01:08:04,898 --> 01:08:07,367 it means i'll sleep better. 914 01:08:10,004 --> 01:08:11,537 i always see them. 915 01:08:11,605 --> 01:08:15,174 they're the last things i see before i close my eyes 916 01:08:15,242 --> 01:08:16,843 and go to bed. 917 01:08:19,480 --> 01:08:21,848 i love you. 918 01:08:31,258 --> 01:08:33,292 that's just how i say it. 919 01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:38,131 out loud so i can hear it. 920 01:08:39,767 --> 01:08:43,302 that's how often i get out from here 921 01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:48,007 to see real women that wear make-up. 922 01:08:48,075 --> 01:08:50,276 and something other than sneakers 923 01:08:50,344 --> 01:08:52,712 and jeans or boots. 924 01:09:04,491 --> 01:09:05,525 i'm nervous. 925 01:09:05,592 --> 01:09:07,493 i'm super freakin' tired. 926 01:09:07,561 --> 01:09:11,564 my energy level-- the batteries are low. 927 01:09:22,142 --> 01:09:23,910 i couldn't sleep last night. 928 01:09:23,977 --> 01:09:27,947 i'm thinking about this and making lists and stuff. 929 01:09:28,015 --> 01:09:30,349 you know, and i'm making another list now this morning. 930 01:09:30,417 --> 01:09:31,851 copying makes sure, 931 01:09:31,919 --> 01:09:33,453 so writing it the second time, 932 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,256 you know, it's like, all right, make sure i have everything. 933 01:10:05,285 --> 01:10:08,387 i built marwencol for me, 934 01:10:08,455 --> 01:10:09,989 for my therapy, 935 01:10:10,057 --> 01:10:12,492 and now it's like everybody's. 936 01:10:12,559 --> 01:10:15,328 like, everybody wants to-- everybody wants to 937 01:10:15,395 --> 01:10:17,430 play in it or be part of it and everything, 938 01:10:17,498 --> 01:10:19,899 and i don't want all that. 939 01:10:24,338 --> 01:10:26,906 it's like this is the one last thing 940 01:10:26,974 --> 01:10:30,409 that i don't ever want taken from me. 941 01:10:32,246 --> 01:10:35,114 and it seems like it is, 942 01:10:35,182 --> 01:10:37,416 but theoretically it's not. 943 01:10:37,484 --> 01:10:40,419 it's still mine. 944 01:10:40,487 --> 01:10:42,755 it's still mine. 945 01:11:04,444 --> 01:11:10,817 i expected 98% of people in greenwich village 946 01:11:10,884 --> 01:11:14,320 to be walking on the street in big feathers, 947 01:11:14,388 --> 01:11:16,722 and outfits, and... 948 01:11:23,497 --> 01:11:26,833 i'm glad i have the ability 949 01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:30,102 to escape into a fantasy world. 950 01:11:30,170 --> 01:11:33,673 i'm real glad that i have that ability 951 01:11:33,740 --> 01:11:37,510 because those guys, i thought, took it away. 952 01:11:37,578 --> 01:11:39,846 i thought they took away my imagination 953 01:11:39,913 --> 01:11:42,081 along with everything else. 954 01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:45,184 and like i've been fighting to get balance 955 01:11:45,252 --> 01:11:47,353 and everything else back, you know, 956 01:11:47,421 --> 01:11:50,790 i fought for my imagination, to get that back. 957 01:11:50,858 --> 01:11:54,760 and that's when marwencol started. 958 01:11:57,097 --> 01:12:00,533 the more i built and the more i played around, 959 01:12:00,601 --> 01:12:02,368 you know, and bought figures and stuff, 960 01:12:02,436 --> 01:12:06,105 the more the story just came alive in my head. 961 01:12:09,977 --> 01:12:12,311 so... it's gonna go there. 962 01:12:12,379 --> 01:12:14,046 ok the big one 963 01:12:19,219 --> 01:12:23,155 every time i see marwencol the town, 964 01:12:23,223 --> 01:12:27,326 it brings me right back to when i started the town, 965 01:12:27,394 --> 01:12:30,663 and how close and dear it was to me, 966 01:12:30,731 --> 01:12:35,167 and how much i wanted people to know about my town 967 01:12:35,235 --> 01:12:36,736 and to be part of my town. 968 01:12:36,803 --> 01:12:40,006 that's why i started putting people that i know in it, 969 01:12:40,073 --> 01:12:43,509 is because i feel so alone here. 970 01:12:43,577 --> 01:12:46,512 and if i have an alter ego 971 01:12:46,580 --> 01:12:48,915 from people that i know in my town, 972 01:12:48,982 --> 01:12:51,784 i can manipulate them, make them do whatever i-- 973 01:12:51,852 --> 01:12:53,753 you know, i want. 974 01:12:53,820 --> 01:12:59,091 and, you know, i'll be surrounded by my friends. 975 01:13:01,595 --> 01:13:04,430 now look right dead in the camera. 976 01:13:06,767 --> 01:13:09,201 what do you think about this 977 01:13:11,305 --> 01:13:13,472 that's a nice camera. 978 01:13:13,540 --> 01:13:16,475 no, the artwork we have to look at today. 979 01:13:16,543 --> 01:13:18,411 oh. 980 01:13:18,478 --> 01:13:20,546 there's no words. 981 01:13:22,316 --> 01:13:24,550 i can't think of anything. 982 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,500 it's a suit-and-tie thing 983 01:13:41,568 --> 01:13:42,768 - no, no. - no, no, no, no. 984 01:13:42,836 --> 01:13:44,270 you can wear what you're wearing now. 985 01:13:44,338 --> 01:13:45,604 see what everybody's... 986 01:13:45,672 --> 01:13:47,673 yeah, this is what i'll be wearing. 987 01:13:47,741 --> 01:13:50,276 i want you to be yourself. 988 01:13:50,344 --> 01:13:52,278 you don't have to feel like you have to dress up. 989 01:13:52,346 --> 01:13:54,747 that's all. you can wear whatever you want. 990 01:13:58,852 --> 01:14:02,188 fucking man's shoes. 991 01:14:02,255 --> 01:14:04,523 they look all right. 992 01:14:04,591 --> 01:14:06,359 is my hair all right and shit 993 01:14:06,426 --> 01:14:08,361 yeah, you look great, man. 994 01:14:08,428 --> 01:14:11,364 i look like a beatnik artist 995 01:14:30,150 --> 01:14:33,719 there's definitely been a strong response to his work. 996 01:14:36,556 --> 01:14:39,158 what i really love is for somebody to come along-- 997 01:14:39,226 --> 01:14:44,830 and a gallerist, or a dealer, or a curator-- 998 01:14:44,898 --> 01:14:47,266 and say, "this is really interesting work. 999 01:14:47,334 --> 01:14:51,504 i'd like to help him show it on a regular basis". 1000 01:14:51,571 --> 01:14:53,839 i think that the really ideal thing 1001 01:14:53,907 --> 01:14:55,543 would be for him to know 1002 01:14:55,544 --> 01:14:57,344 that when he makes work from now on out, 1003 01:14:57,411 --> 01:15:01,347 there are gonna be people ready and waiting to see it. 1004 01:15:08,021 --> 01:15:09,455 i don't know what to say. 1005 01:15:09,523 --> 01:15:11,791 i don't know how to speak to people. 1006 01:15:11,858 --> 01:15:14,960 they're big collectors, they're big, important people, 1007 01:15:15,028 --> 01:15:18,297 but i have no idea how to talk with them. 1008 01:15:18,365 --> 01:15:19,965 should i be writing shit down 1009 01:15:20,033 --> 01:15:22,301 should i photograph them what 1010 01:15:22,369 --> 01:15:25,638 you know, so the most i could do to that big collector 1011 01:15:25,705 --> 01:15:28,407 was say, "you have nice shoes. i like your shoes". 1012 01:15:28,475 --> 01:15:32,311 and she looked at me like, "you're strange," you know 1013 01:15:32,379 --> 01:15:35,147 - sorry, ladies before gents. - yeah, go ahead. 1014 01:15:35,215 --> 01:15:38,417 in europe they always offer a cigarette. 1015 01:15:38,485 --> 01:15:39,652 that's the one. 1016 01:15:39,719 --> 01:15:42,154 i have 218 pair at home. 1017 01:15:42,222 --> 01:15:43,656 - really - yeah. 1018 01:15:43,723 --> 01:15:45,157 pictures or pairs of shoes 1019 01:15:45,225 --> 01:15:46,258 really shoes 1020 01:15:46,326 --> 01:15:48,928 oh, women's, man. 1021 01:15:48,995 --> 01:15:51,263 it's like, when i'm stuck where the movie's going-- 1022 01:15:51,331 --> 01:15:56,001 the movie-- where the story's going... 1023 01:15:56,069 --> 01:15:58,671 i slip on a pair of heels, 1024 01:15:58,738 --> 01:16:02,108 and the characters tell me 1025 01:16:02,175 --> 01:16:04,677 where the story's going next. 1026 01:16:04,744 --> 01:16:06,912 hmm. 1027 01:16:06,980 --> 01:16:09,615 that's anna and i just taking a ride yesterday. 1028 01:16:09,683 --> 01:16:10,816 who's anna 1029 01:16:10,884 --> 01:16:12,284 my wife. 1030 01:16:12,352 --> 01:16:17,289 see, the s.s. sent somebody there to kill me, 1031 01:16:17,357 --> 01:16:19,792 and all the women of marwencol 1032 01:16:19,860 --> 01:16:22,294 stabbed the crap out of him. 1033 01:16:22,362 --> 01:16:26,298 and i make sure that i turn that damn flash off... 1034 01:16:26,366 --> 01:16:27,533 oh, yeah. 1035 01:16:27,601 --> 01:16:29,969 'cause the flash takes 50% away from the photo. 1036 01:16:30,036 --> 01:16:31,537 oh, yeah. 1037 01:16:37,711 --> 01:16:41,380 not one picture did i take of my show, 1038 01:16:41,448 --> 01:16:43,816 or of people hanging out at my show, 1039 01:16:43,884 --> 01:16:47,653 or... just shoe shots. 1040 01:16:53,727 --> 01:16:56,328 i was like an elephant 1041 01:16:56,396 --> 01:16:59,064 left in charge of the peanuts. 1042 01:17:27,127 --> 01:17:30,462 that's good. that's what he-- that's it. 1043 01:17:30,530 --> 01:17:33,465 all right, so long, ladies. 1044 01:17:42,142 --> 01:17:43,809 i went to his show, 1045 01:17:43,877 --> 01:17:46,579 and i sat there, and i was looking, 1046 01:17:46,646 --> 01:17:50,149 and i was listening to people's opinions about his stuff. 1047 01:17:50,217 --> 01:17:52,818 and i felt myself, like, getting mad or defensive 1048 01:17:52,886 --> 01:17:54,420 about people who had negative stuff. 1049 01:17:54,487 --> 01:17:58,390 like, the one guy: "oh, let's go look at pictures of real war". 1050 01:17:58,458 --> 01:18:01,627 you know, like, this is mark's real war. 1051 01:18:32,959 --> 01:18:35,127 my mind can't decide 1052 01:18:35,195 --> 01:18:39,298 what world to go for. 1053 01:18:39,366 --> 01:18:41,900 realistic world 1054 01:18:41,968 --> 01:18:45,704 but there's dangers out there. 1055 01:18:45,772 --> 01:18:49,975 people out there are so... 1056 01:18:50,043 --> 01:18:51,410 real. 1057 01:18:51,478 --> 01:18:54,713 and i don't understand all that. 1058 01:18:59,386 --> 01:19:04,323 i feel safe when i get in my town, 1059 01:19:04,391 --> 01:19:09,061 and it just takes everything away. 1060 01:19:12,565 --> 01:19:15,501 i prefer... 1061 01:19:15,568 --> 01:19:18,904 to live in my world. 1062 01:19:21,241 --> 01:19:25,077 i want to live here in marwencol. 1063 01:19:45,265 --> 01:19:47,032 my character in the story 1064 01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:51,036 had to create something for himself 1065 01:19:51,104 --> 01:19:54,206 to deal with the trauma that he still had 1066 01:19:54,274 --> 01:19:58,377 from being attacked by five s.s., 1067 01:19:58,445 --> 01:20:02,881 and beaten, and kicked, almost to death. 1068 01:20:02,949 --> 01:20:06,552 you know, so it was a lot of wear and tear 1069 01:20:06,619 --> 01:20:09,822 on his mind and stuff, so... 1070 01:20:09,889 --> 01:20:13,659 you know, he found comfort 1071 01:20:13,727 --> 01:20:17,930 in building his own little world, his own little town, 1072 01:20:17,997 --> 01:20:19,665 that's, you know, 1073 01:20:19,733 --> 01:20:24,002 peopled with little 1/6 scale dolls and figures 1074 01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:27,573 and stuff, and each with a personality. 1075 01:22:18,047 --> 01:22:24,847 published 06/16/2013 @ www.podnapisi.net 82545

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