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harley
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i wish you were here right now man
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because i am face to face
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because i'm sorry son of a [ __ ] who
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calls himself rafael
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caro quintero
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oh
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you can shoot him in here or i can stage
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and escape so that you can shoot him
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outside
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wait a minute
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what's going on
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what'd he do it he might
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clements knew kiki didn't he
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you're right
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tony what the hell's going on come on
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back tony what's going on
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don don
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you should be dead
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but you've got too much to say that we
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want to hear
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yeah yeah he's alive over
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thank you we got him florentino
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ventura's already in the air to pick him
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up
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costa rica is expelling cairo to mexico
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i made them all rich pederales
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state police cfs
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everyone had their palm out no one said
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no to carlos money
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you paid the policemen in guadalajara
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federal state police css
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who who in the state police was paid off
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i left my list at home ask him about the
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cfs come on
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mr standards i will decide what's
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important what's not
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we're not even writing down the answers
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he's given you so what
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so what
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uh please
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let's go back to the house there was a
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lot of people in the house
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what else
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is that how she killed kiki how many
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maybe 50 maybe 100. hey hey who else was
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in that house how about some names
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other people mr riva mr steinmetz we
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have permission from florentino ventura
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to be part of this interrogation pal you
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understand this interrogation is run by
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the attorney general's office
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not commandante valentino ventura and
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the federal police
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hey carl come on who were they
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who were the others
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i was taking a nap i woke up
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i went outside
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compass now that our friends are here to
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protect us
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let's have some fun huh it's too quiet
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around here
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were they carl were they cfs were the
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army
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what about that that gun they found with
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the cfs initials and
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what about that then there was your cfs
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identity card had your picture on it was
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signed by
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some general ruiz velasquez pasta
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we're just trying to find out who the
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hell was in the house this man is
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confessing
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and you are interfering he's gonna tell
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you everything you want to hear
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it will not be
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i would like the truth hey carl
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carl huh
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stallone i have a feeling in my bones
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and uh
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a lot of things are pointing in a
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certain direction
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carl quintero and fonseca abducted kiki
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camarena but
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uh you weren't alone you know
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the weather is involved ooh
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well it could have been internal
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security it could have been the army cfs
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i'm telling you the cfs is all the way
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through this thing
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see when we picked up cara all his men
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and him had cfs badges on them now every
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time i interrogated carl
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and every time i mentioned the cfs he
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just sapped any twitch we all know that
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there's some
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corrupt officials and police we all know
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that
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georgia i just don't think you grasped
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the situation here
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i mean the kind of cops that carl runs
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are not the kind to go out and organize
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something like the bravo scam okay
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i mean carl is just not that
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sophisticated now he said when i
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interrogated him that there were like 50
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or 100 people in that house
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so they pump kiki out of all the
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information that he's got right
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they get everything then they kill him
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and then they take them someplace and
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they dump them in a hole in the ground
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and that's when this cover-up starts
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so who do we get we get this first
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commandante the federal police
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this pavon ray skye and he comes and
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tells us he says
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i really want to find kiki's murder now
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all the time
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he knows that kiki is dead and he is
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buried in primavera park
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now i only know one thing
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this thing was so well organized i mean
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it was fast it was
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quick it was executed professionally and
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a cop on the take don't do that
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you can't someone's back here someone
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who knows what the hell they're doing
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my question is
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who and how high up are they
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i mean is it the cfs officer is it
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military what are they doing they
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skimming the cream off of carl's
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millions
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you know helping him out once in a while
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or to go higher than that see
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i mean who the hell are these people
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we'll give them
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a trial a guilty verdict
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prison will give them
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the
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on the road they have discovered cfs
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badges with your signature guatemoc
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other than that they only have theories
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and suspicions
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caro quintero and fonseca stay mexican
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hands forever
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neither day nor any other major
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narco-trafficking deserved to fall
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into the hands of the americans
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carol and fonseca will leave reclusari
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of the north prison only one way
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in a pine box
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the losses are 15 irrelevant local cubs
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the peacock pavon reggies and two
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sinaloa pesan bandidos who are easily
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replaceable
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so as of this moment the government of
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the republic of mexico
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has decided the camarena case is solved
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cooperation with americans on this
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incident
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is over all the physical evidence
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is to be destroyed
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case closed finney
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and on the whole we have done
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tell all your readers
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because you see all these people here
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they're my friends
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i love all women because i was born of a
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woman
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and it pleases me from the bottom of my
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heart
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to help the poor because i was so poor
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as a kid
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but i am retired now
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in my life
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i cannot speak about it because i've
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suffered too much
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it's not about authority george it's
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about you leaning on
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i can't get hair samples prints
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nothing out of them on carlo quintero or
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fonseca let alone lopez res on the rest
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now i'm going to need that in order to
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match whatever hair samples we discover
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if the government ever reveals the
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location the crime scene to us
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they don't see why we need a u.s grand
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jury to indict and try them too well did
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you explain to them that on the united
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states law
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killing a united states official is an
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act of terrorism
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and that allows us to grab an indicted
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killer or a co-conspirator anywhere in
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the world
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anywhere in the world or is that what
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they're afraid of
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tackle guy like you i can see why you're
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not getting anywhere listen i don't care
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what the hell you think about my tact
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i'm not down here on some diplomatic
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mission my friend
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i'm trying to get some indictments to
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bootstrap our way above cara and fonseca
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so what about the bindings kiki's
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clothes
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fabric samples of the shroud all the
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physical evidence let me say it again
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loud and clear they refused
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they said no they told me to go to hell
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have you got it
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great great
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you want to tell me what's going on ray
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you won't talk to me at the embassy
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i got a nice office there air
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conditioned yeah yeah and the walls have
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ears
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come on ray what are you going to tell
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me that the walls can't hear it's not
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what i'm going to tell you
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it's what the agency is gonna do for me
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is that kiki camarena yeah
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kiki was a good guy
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let me just talk to you in your office
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just for a minute all right it's not
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going to take a lot of your time i need
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to ask you something very important
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huh all i want is just access to the
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physical evidence that's it
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giggy was my friend too it was a sad day
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when he died yeah
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it was i got two fbi foreign
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give me something for them to do
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i mean they can work the bindings of
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clothes you know
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you don't care about protecting these
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people anymore you don't give a damn
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about that i know you come on
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i'm asking for a favor for god's sake
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can't give you what you want
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i'm sorry harley
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seriously
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huh
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what is it
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the feds found the place where they're
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holding kiki
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it's eight eight one kaye loco de vega
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fbi forensics is on their way over there
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right now
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yeah yeah anyway stephanie's on his way
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yeah
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what else do you got
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i can do it alone harley no it wouldn't
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be right
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what the hell are they standing around
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for hey what the hell's going on here
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cleaned up repainted inside's been
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stripped clean
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yard's right pool's empty
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crime scene's completely ruined man they
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trashed it
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i wanted to leave it so there was
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nothing for us to work on
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fresh paint what
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i love the smell of fresh paint
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i left us nothing
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can we go to work on nothing
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alright
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okay what do you got
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evidence i believe this is the place
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that was on the car in which cameron was
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abducted
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give it to me no absolutely not
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you can't have it i found it so it's
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mine
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you don't seriously think i'm going to
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let you walk out of here but the license
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plate you senor
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hand it over
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okay senor perhaps you might want to
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relax
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it's a lovely pool don't you fill it up
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again
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have a nice friend
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shouldn't let him get away with that i
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didn't
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i stole him richie just lifted the
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prince
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nice move no it's not
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a couple of hairs from the bottom of the
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pool a couple smudged prints from a
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license plate
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big deal
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this is a place
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i swear they did it
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was here
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they painted it but uh i can still smell
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the blood in here
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door was open now they're closing it out
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they're closing it
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you gotta keep it together harley we're
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gonna get him
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every one of them you and me
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are gonna kick so much ass down here
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they're gonna write about about us
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a regular corgi doll
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let's go
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harley a little food wouldn't hurt that
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tequila a bit
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no i'm not hungry
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[Music]
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son of a [ __ ]
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finally let's get out of here here we go
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darling
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no now i can't leave now time all right
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i know the territory's better than
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anybody else
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you know something they are never going
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to find
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you kill kiki bureaucrats going to wear
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them down
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they're going to get lost in the shuffle
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honey they're going to get begged out
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you know
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drowned in the amorphousness of it
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not me not me
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it's a it's about kiki and it's about
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more and kiki
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but fat cats who did it and got rich and
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retired marbella with 20 million dollars
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in some luxembourg bank
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that's what it's about the money from
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selling that
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poison up north and they sell it to kids
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don't that's all they sell at the kids
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it's a chemical war waged against our
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people
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alienated and dispossessed
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and kill each other for 20 minutes and a
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good time
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and that's what it's about
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you get it
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[Music]
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oh
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those are transcriptions not shorthand
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what does that suggest
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they're transcripts of a tape
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they taped it they tape recorded kiki's
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torture and his interrogation
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and if we were able to get our hands on
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the transcripts
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what does that tell you but you probably
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got them from the guys you hired the
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routine counter espionage and tell the
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kgb all over mexico city
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same department armando rivera works for
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federal security cfs
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does that mean that they did it not
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necessarily
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but it does mean their bosses in the
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government have the original tapes
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that's where these came from
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interesting speculation
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you're gonna figure out who'll leak this
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why'd you do it
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[Music]
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a lot of guys in the agency feel the
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same way
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we all helped to get this
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i don't know the dea turning everything
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upside down for one guy
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kind of cool
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good luck carson
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[Music]
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they're trying to close the door they've
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just about done it
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there's a crack of daylight left and
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these tapes are red
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how do we know these transcripts are
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real well in the transcripts
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kiki refers to uh two of the informants
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with their code names and
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and he and i were the only ones who knew
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what those names were so
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the transcripts are for real if they
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hand over the tapes we'll be able to
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work backwards from the type of
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questions being asked to
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get an idea of who needed the answers
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who did the asking
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etc
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how many are there i don't know
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then i'll refer to tapes use the plural
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question is will they go for it
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or will they laugh in her face
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[Music]
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it's come to our attention mr attorney
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general
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you are in possession of the tapes that
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were made of the
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camarena interrogation while it was
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under control of carl cantero
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we'd like them
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mr lone we are here to discuss
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the eradication table were made of the
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camarena interrogation
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and i'd like them the first item on
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today's agenda gentlemen
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is helicopter spare parts tapes of the
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camarena interrogation
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sir is it the u.s intent to replace drug
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eradication program helicopters
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or increase the supply of spare parts
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the tapes of the camarena interrogation
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tapes they exist we know it
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we have incontrovertible proof mr
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attorney general what mr lawn means when
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he says the word you
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is your government the tapes exist and
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you may not be
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immediately and personally at work
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well it does seem yes it seems after
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00:26:46,558 --> 00:26:49,599
fonseca was arrested they found them i
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found tapes
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yes had them
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00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,360
however we have a difficulty and what is
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that
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as this administration senior council on
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legal policy i feel that they
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are too uh sensitive you can appreciate
447
00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:07,840
it
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i appreciate your suppressing evidence
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00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:11,678
we would like the tapes mr lone the
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tapes at the moment there
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are not in mexico please don't give me
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the tapes i'll call the press conference
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every newspaper and television station
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in mexico will show up
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00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:25,678
mexico city papers in particular have
456
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:27,278
been very interested in what we have to
457
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:30,399
say about corruption
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in this administration
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are you threatening us
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absolutely i will let you listen to the
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tapes
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and then we can discuss how you can get
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copies
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next
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[Music]
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we're going to pack our things
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our household things
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have you dropped it we yes
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sir i'll explain
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we had nothing to do with that
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00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:02,960
affair then what are you doing here
472
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:05,119
as i said i'm getting ready to leave
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00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,440
they aren't briefing me on anything of
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importance
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sir i only work at the dea
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00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:19,440
in guadalajara i'm not the resident in
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asian in charge i'm not the boss
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00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,519
i don't know as many things as you think
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00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:26,479
i know
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tell me about the jewel my fan that it
481
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,679
was a matter developed by the emocial
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office
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00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:32,798
not our office
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00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:43,839
i apologize for you on the street
485
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,798
we will not hit you anymore
486
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:46,798
but you must talk
487
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,278
all right
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okay put
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yes just a few more questions
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don't worry don't worry
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00:30:11,278 --> 00:30:15,679
you will see a wife and children again
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very soon
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look i told you about the one at
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childhood
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i can't i can't just tell me what you
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know about our friend ramon where
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where where
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um
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00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:20,960
he's alone
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yes
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00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,199
you must be very tired mr long but
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perhaps you like to be my guest at my
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favorite restaurant
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00:31:26,558 --> 00:31:30,720
it's only 25 kilometers i love town
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i wouldn't go 25 kilometers out of town
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with you
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25 kilometers mr diaz
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i wouldn't go 25 feet across the street
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with you
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hello hello
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hello mr lone mika
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you should know because you're gonna
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hear it uh we've discovered tape
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recordings of
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kiki being asked questions
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he was very brave
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00:32:28,558 --> 00:32:32,000
the discovery of these tapes will be
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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:43,840
very helpful in
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00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:43,839
leading us to the people we're after
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mika
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please don't hesitate to ask for
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anything you need mika
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said they saw you at the murder side
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shall i bring them in
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no ask him about the commandant he's
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getting there
527
00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:32,480
i'm thirsty who was in charge of the
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interrogation
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i don't know who else was there then so
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00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:41,119
many
531
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:42,079
did they want to know what camarena knew
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00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:44,000
about them
533
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:46,079
to talk to him who wanted to know what
534
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,480
he knew how the hell do i know
535
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:49,759
i'm a pistol hero i don't know who's in
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00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,880
the social register man and where do i
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00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,798
get something to eat
538
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,240
when we're finished well can we at least
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00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,599
order a quesadilla man i could start to
540
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,519
death in here listening to your stupid
541
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:59,918
questions
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00:33:57,519 --> 00:33:59,919
shut up
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00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,640
hey government you don't have to impress
544
00:34:04,398 --> 00:34:07,918
your gringo friends behind the mirror
545
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,679
i'm not always going to be in this
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00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:11,358
prison man
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00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,720
if you threaten us again i'm going to
548
00:34:11,358 --> 00:34:13,199
tear the tongue off your head with
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pliers
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00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:21,838
do you understand
551
00:34:32,838 --> 00:34:35,838
uh
552
00:34:37,838 --> 00:34:47,918
now which of the traffickers was in the
553
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:50,239
house besides carl quintero and fonseca
554
00:34:47,918 --> 00:34:52,719
ah
555
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,719
i don't know
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someone
557
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,800
i think i heard ramon
558
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:18,240
from the north i think um
559
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who's ramon i don't know
560
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,078
that name comes up on the tapes too i'm
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dead
562
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:29,280
i followed the chango into the bedroom
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and i saw cameron semi-conscious
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00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:37,839
blindfolded bound bad shape
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00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:41,519
mumbling what else did he say
566
00:35:37,838 --> 00:35:43,679
he got a family what else the man in
567
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:45,838
charge of the interrogation told me
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00:35:43,679 --> 00:35:45,838
yes
569
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:56,000
this luis guy is good
570
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,838
what did he tell you
571
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:04,719
told me to put camarena into the trunk
572
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,240
of a light blue
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dodge dart that was the last i saw of
574
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,319
him
575
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:14,319
he just admitted he knew him ask him
576
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:18,079
again about the commentary
577
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,079
tell me the name of the commandante
578
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:27,200
the state police commandant a nickname
579
00:36:23,358 --> 00:36:29,519
you see cfs ifs
580
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:31,118
the political police go on i can't you
581
00:36:29,519 --> 00:36:35,440
must if i if you
582
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:41,680
don't who
583
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:44,240
we have to know name him
584
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:44,239
spino
585
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:57,439
sergio espino verdin
586
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,440
am i correct
587
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:06,838
the former guadalajara commandante
588
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:09,839
of the federal intelligence service am i
589
00:37:06,838 --> 00:37:09,838
correct
590
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:25,769
you are correct
591
00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:25,769
[Applause]
592
00:37:30,309 --> 00:37:34,538
[Music]
593
00:37:31,110 --> 00:37:34,539
[Applause]
594
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:54,000
go to the next line please
595
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:59,519
i apologize
596
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,519
for your mistreatment
597
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,838
just
598
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:19,440
a few more minutes and we'll
599
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:22,960
return you to your family
600
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:26,320
just tell me what
601
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:30,240
you know about
602
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,240
our friend remo
603
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:36,000
uh please repeat that phrase again
604
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:40,079
commandant spiritually
605
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:43,838
please we
606
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,839
will not hit you anymore
607
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:51,439
would you do something i tried
608
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,118
they took ventura's man off the case
609
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,880
they gave us this guy he's an amateur
610
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:56,640
he's hopeless
611
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,240
a cheap tape recorder letting the guy
612
00:38:56,639 --> 00:39:00,879
say his own words
613
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,000
like the phone book what the hell kind
614
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,079
of voice print is this going to be i
615
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,960
can't make a comparison from this
616
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:08,800
you're sipping us i'm sorry mr carson
617
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,199
but the interior okay that's okay luis
618
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,200
it's all right
619
00:39:12,838 --> 00:39:17,599
just
620
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,599
[Music]
621
00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:44,480
[Music]
622
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,960
this son of a [ __ ] come on you killed
623
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,440
him
624
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,480
you killed him you beat him you tortured
625
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,838
him and then you murdered him
626
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,760
they killed him and now you're a
627
00:39:51,838 --> 00:39:56,960
protagonist come on
628
00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:11,839
you're giving the voice
629
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:11,838
get protected
630
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,969
[Applause]
631
00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:19,849
[Music]
632
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,759
what's i gonna do is i gotta bring kiki
633
00:40:36,838 --> 00:40:39,838
back
634
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:52,078
he's gonna make sure he didn't die for
635
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,519
nothing right
636
00:40:52,079 --> 00:41:07,839
sure he didn't die for nothing is
637
00:40:53,519 --> 00:41:07,838
working the case
638
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,640
what case
639
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:21,838
we had to speed up our team
640
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:38,078
what are you gonna do with that
641
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:40,318
what is wrong with you what is wrong
642
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,560
with you
643
00:41:40,318 --> 00:41:45,519
okay okay they're not going to give us
644
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:45,519
espino verdin
645
00:41:46,318 --> 00:41:50,639
he was the interrogator he asked all the
646
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,519
questions he knows too much
647
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:55,279
so let's move on we ain't got nothing
648
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:56,318
they are bought and paid for every
649
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,119
single one of them
650
00:41:56,318 --> 00:42:00,719
they are paid for and you understand we
651
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,400
ain't got nothing
652
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,118
there is no light at the end of this
653
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,240
thing man you see an end to this
654
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:08,160
i don't know if there's an end to this
655
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,959
or not that's not my job
656
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:11,920
my job is to work this case and if i
657
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440
don't believe in that
658
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,358
then i believe that kiki died for
659
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,720
nothing and kiki's death means something
660
00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:18,318
to every one of us
661
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:21,279
it means that one of us counts it means
662
00:42:18,318 --> 00:42:22,719
that one of us makes a difference
663
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,359
and i'm not gonna let you give up on
664
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,879
this you are not gonna burn out on me
665
00:42:25,358 --> 00:42:30,400
you are gonna make it to the finish line
666
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:33,119
if i have to drag you across
667
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,119
do you know why
668
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,559
do you know why
669
00:42:42,838 --> 00:42:45,838
why
670
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:52,960
because you deserve to be there harley
671
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,960
you deserve to be there
672
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,679
okay
673
00:42:57,358 --> 00:42:59,838
okay
674
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,639
i don't let him see you looking like
675
00:43:04,769 --> 00:43:12,849
[Music]
676
00:43:10,838 --> 00:43:16,719
this
677
00:43:12,849 --> 00:43:16,719
[Music]
678
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,440
okay this is it jack we're nowhere with
679
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,960
espino verdin
680
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,519
they've taken the interrogation away
681
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,559
from ventura's people
682
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:36,960
consequently the voice print exemplars
683
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:38,639
were administered so poorly
684
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,519
that it's impossible to tell from the
685
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:43,920
tapes that he was the common dante
686
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:46,800
can you still get him only if i could
687
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:50,159
readminister the recording
688
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:53,359
and somehow politically force a trial
689
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:54,879
then a guilty verdict and then pressure
690
00:43:53,358 --> 00:43:55,440
them into turning them over to our grand
691
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960
jury
692
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,880
you want the biggest odds on that
693
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,039
they're terrible yeah right what about
694
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,318
the vector the physical evidence they've
695
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,719
trashed it
696
00:44:02,318 --> 00:44:06,559
they're telling us all to go to hell
697
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:10,399
starting to feel it's impossible right
698
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:12,960
oh hell no we routinely accomplish the
699
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:16,639
impossible that's our job
700
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,639
what this is getting is very interesting
701
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,519
just give me something harley and i are
702
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,559
working on it jack
703
00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:24,559
okay right goodbye
704
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:37,838
i'm going through kiki's casebook i
705
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:37,839
don't understand these names
706
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:51,838
all right see now kiki co-named all of
707
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:51,838
his informants to keep him safe
708
00:44:55,190 --> 00:45:04,079
[Music]
709
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:17,839
you found a friend
710
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:20,958
[Music]
711
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,959
[Applause]
712
00:45:25,150 --> 00:45:31,220
[Music]
713
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:40,889
[Applause]
714
00:45:31,219 --> 00:45:40,888
[Music]
715
00:45:52,318 --> 00:46:01,838
good night
716
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:15,839
i'm low the angel gave me a little beard
717
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:32,318
can you tell me about me no not exactly
718
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:35,679
you had a name in his case book
719
00:46:32,318 --> 00:46:35,679
gabriel little campion
720
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:42,480
he was a good guy used to say i had a
721
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:44,079
lot of heart
722
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,519
next to gabriel he wrote a reference i
723
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,440
don't understand and you can help me
724
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:50,639
with it
725
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,639
bar from mexicali
726
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:57,440
kiki took good care of his people man
727
00:46:56,079 --> 00:47:00,079
you got something for me then i got
728
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,079
something for you
729
00:47:00,318 --> 00:47:06,559
hey you just don't get it all
730
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,559
you don't get it
731
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:11,599
you know you come in here you don't even
732
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,720
say how are you
733
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:18,400
would you like a drink no
734
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:22,399
oh from a garlic you got no finesse
735
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,400
man you got no finesse
736
00:47:22,838 --> 00:47:26,000
listen i don't want to hurt your
737
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:30,799
feelings gabriel
738
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:34,318
but i don't have a lot of time here okay
739
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:39,839
okay yeah well then you could have
740
00:47:34,318 --> 00:47:39,838
learned a lot from kiki
741
00:47:50,838 --> 00:47:57,119
is
742
00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,720
no all my life i've been six inches away
743
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,720
from guys i could beat my brains on
744
00:48:04,318 --> 00:48:09,838
sizing them up you know looking in their
745
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,838
eyes
746
00:48:11,838 --> 00:48:19,119
when i was muscled for rapha and ramon
747
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:22,559
i was looking in their eyes too it's
748
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:22,559
like looking into a doll's on
749
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,880
you're looking no more you see his glass
750
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:35,838
why was kiki so interested in ramon
751
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,400
verona
752
00:48:35,838 --> 00:48:40,400
don't you know no
753
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:48,000
ramon verona is the main connection
754
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:50,239
he's the main pipeline from where to
755
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,239
where
756
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:57,039
mexico city the politicians
757
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:59,280
he's the main pipeline to all the guys
758
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:02,558
at the town that call the shots
759
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,240
and you know why tell them because he
760
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:17,839
moves all the money
761
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:17,838
he's the negotiator he's the bad man
762
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:23,679
you want to find out how things work in
763
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,800
mexico you follow the money
764
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:32,078
that's what kiki was into
765
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,079
go see this guy nice and geeky
766
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:35,199
thank you again
767
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,598
a little bunch of money
768
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,880
you know kiki was a friend of mine i did
769
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:49,440
this for him
770
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,440
not for you if i do this for you
771
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:59,838
i charge you plenty
772
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,880
he defiles of course but don't worry
773
00:50:13,838 --> 00:50:15,838
about it
774
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,318
they're locked in a vault at the
775
00:50:15,838 --> 00:50:18,318
consulate
776
00:50:20,639 --> 00:50:24,639
you will do for me what cameron has
777
00:50:22,318 --> 00:50:24,639
promised
778
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:29,919
you absolutely out for my girlfriend of
779
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,920
course of course
780
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:40,880
where do you want to start why don't we
781
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:42,800
start where kiki left off
782
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:46,559
yeah that'd be a good place to start and
783
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,559
what he had going with ramon varuna
784
00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:59,440
no pa newport beach
785
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:59,440
shall we order sure
786
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:08,800
oh by the way are you aware that we have
787
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:11,118
information indicating that potego diaz
788
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,318
laundered over 100 million dollars in
789
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:15,039
the united states
790
00:51:12,318 --> 00:51:16,480
through a man named ramon verona on the
791
00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:18,558
other hand
792
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,838
i do want to re-administer the espino
793
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:22,400
verdan voice prince with american
794
00:51:20,838 --> 00:51:24,799
technicians
795
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,318
i also want the physical evidence turned
796
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,039
over and shared with
797
00:51:26,318 --> 00:51:31,599
our forensics people from the gravesites
798
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:37,838
and the lobodovega house
799
00:51:31,599 --> 00:51:37,838
by the way the salmon here is very good
800
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:44,400
state department online too go ahead
801
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,400
mary put it through
802
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:50,079
afternoon jack jack this
803
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:52,160
call is because everyone here wants to
804
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,839
extend you every courtesy
805
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:56,399
plus you know how strongly the president
806
00:51:53,838 --> 00:51:58,000
feels about the drug situation
807
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,559
additionally there's been a bit of
808
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,719
pressure from mexico city
809
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:03,680
to put this phone call in its real
810
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,639
politic
811
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:09,759
context i think i'll draw you a
812
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:13,838
hypothetical situation
813
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,880
now american banks have 25 billion
814
00:52:13,838 --> 00:52:18,960
dollars
815
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:22,079
in mexican loans now if mexico
816
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,480
were to unilaterally impose a moratorium
817
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:26,400
on the interest on those debts
818
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,599
what effect do you think that might have
819
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,000
on the
820
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:31,359
well the security merchants bank of new
821
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,000
york say
822
00:52:31,358 --> 00:52:36,078
of their portion of mexico's three
823
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:39,920
billion dollars interest
824
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:43,519
being knocked out of their cash flow
825
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:46,960
we're talking belly up time jack
826
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:50,159
now as pressure goes
827
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,679
this is mega tonnage do you know what it
828
00:52:50,159 --> 00:53:00,239
took
829
00:52:51,679 --> 00:53:02,558
one phone call okay what's the story
830
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,399
administration's war on drugs is going
831
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:08,160
to emphasize the domestic
832
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,240
struggle focusing on users in american
833
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:12,799
cities
834
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,759
fighting the war on our own home ground
835
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,240
not so much
836
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,319
on foreign shores where it has the best
837
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,399
chance of being effectively waged
838
00:53:18,318 --> 00:53:22,318
interdicting and disrupting production
839
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,400
and transportation
840
00:53:22,318 --> 00:53:26,838
as i said this call is a courtesy to
841
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,079
alert you to a position the president is
842
00:53:26,838 --> 00:53:32,000
taking
843
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:32,880
when will he take it six o'clock news in
844
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,719
about
845
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,720
a minute and 30 seconds
846
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,680
the nbc news at the u.s capitol
847
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,240
drug trafficking corrupts in all
848
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:53,118
countries corrupts policemen
849
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,159
judges fiscal agents mexico is no
850
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:55,920
exception
851
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:57,440
what many mexicans say is that the
852
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,358
problem is primarily
853
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:02,639
in the insatiable american demand for
854
00:53:59,358 --> 00:54:02,639
more and more drugs
855
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:07,118
if there were no demand there would be
856
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:09,358
no production and i'm happy that very
857
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:11,440
recently president reagan has recognized
858
00:54:09,358 --> 00:54:13,759
the responsibility of the united states
859
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,358
to combat the phenomena of consumption
860
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,119
which unfortunately
861
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has been growing at the white house
862
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:19,358
today president reagan met with mexican
863
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,920
president
864
00:54:19,358 --> 00:54:23,838
miguel dilla madrid during private
865
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,400
meetings the differences continued mr
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00:54:23,838 --> 00:54:25,838
reagan
867
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,838
pushing his hard line against the
868
00:54:25,838 --> 00:54:29,599
soviet-backed regime in nicaragua
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00:54:27,838 --> 00:54:31,679
dale madrid saying central american
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00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:33,039
turmoil is the result of social and
871
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,719
economic unrest
872
00:54:33,039 --> 00:54:37,039
but in the closing toast there was
873
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,318
agreement the good and decent people of
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00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:40,639
both our countries
875
00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:42,159
have made a strong commitment to fight
876
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:44,798
the scourge of narcotics
877
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:47,358
and drug trafficking this battle
878
00:54:44,798 --> 00:54:47,358
continues
879
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,119
the mexican leader asked the u.s to
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00:54:51,358 --> 00:54:55,199
understand how hard it is
881
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:56,318
to reform the economy while paying off a
882
00:54:55,199 --> 00:54:58,078
huge debt
883
00:54:56,318 --> 00:55:00,400
mr reagan says the u.s will be
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00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:02,240
understanding and helping mexico get
885
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,920
new loans i'm impressed with the
886
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,358
commitment that you've made mr president
887
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,039
to meet this challenge
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00:55:05,358 --> 00:55:08,400
and to take the necessary steps to
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00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:11,199
achieve a robust growing
890
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,960
mexican economy the president was here
891
00:55:11,199 --> 00:55:13,759
only four hours on his way back from
892
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,440
vacation
893
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,040
and some mexican officials thought he
894
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,639
should have stayed longer but u.s
895
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:20,400
officials say this dialogue is an
896
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:22,078
intense continuing process
897
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:25,358
chrissy connie nbc news with the
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president in mexico
899
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:35,279
hello councillor portagolia is here
900
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,280
we are not going to readminister the
901
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,798
espino verdin test voice
902
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,319
because his lawyer has obtained an order
903
00:55:38,798 --> 00:55:45,280
preventing more tests
904
00:55:40,318 --> 00:55:45,279
so there'll be no more tests sorry good
905
00:55:46,838 --> 00:55:49,838
night
906
00:55:59,358 --> 00:56:02,639
sorry but i have very bad news to tell
907
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:03,919
you uh
908
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,759
do you know the physical evidence you
909
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,200
requested from attorney general garcia
910
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,559
ramirez
911
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:13,679
well i i investigate
912
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:14,839
it seems we burnt it it's all been
913
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:17,440
destroyed
914
00:56:14,838 --> 00:56:20,719
what how can you destroy evidence while
915
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,720
an investigation is pending
916
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:31,838
it was purifying anyway it's done sorry
917
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:31,838
good night
918
00:56:32,798 --> 00:56:38,559
looks like your boy's lady ho look
919
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,798
my information about [ __ ] is no good
920
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:45,839
you have to pay for amigo
921
00:56:40,798 --> 00:56:45,838
it's true
922
00:56:57,110 --> 00:57:03,459
[Music]
923
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:18,719
this car is illegally registered open up
924
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,720
the truck
925
00:57:19,358 --> 00:57:27,838
open up the trunk
926
00:57:31,838 --> 00:57:35,199
possession of an automatic weapon is a
927
00:57:33,358 --> 00:57:38,000
serious offense
928
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:39,519
listen uh i'm with the dea i've also got
929
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,480
a diplomatic pass but we go to my office
930
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:41,280
clear this whole thing up wait i'm
931
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,240
taking you away
932
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,240
i got a diplomatic past
933
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,879
same thing that happened that's what's
934
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:58,640
gonna happen to you
935
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:02,720
we're gonna plug you into a wall socket
936
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:02,719
man you're gonna end up just like him
937
00:58:03,469 --> 00:58:09,838
[Music]
938
00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:10,960
that was it that was the last you saw
939
00:58:09,838 --> 00:58:12,719
him we went back a couple of minutes
940
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,280
later like we planned but he was gone
941
00:58:12,719 --> 00:58:16,000
the car was still there assume tony was
942
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,240
grabbed
943
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,679
what's happening on the phone check with
944
00:58:18,239 --> 00:58:20,798
state officials federal police bob go
945
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:22,798
back down to the bowling alley see if
946
00:58:20,798 --> 00:58:25,039
you can find somebody who saw tony leave
947
00:58:22,798 --> 00:58:27,119
call jack lawn let him know it's not
948
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:30,079
gonna happen again
949
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:31,280
yes sir the police pulled up made them
950
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:34,640
open the drone
951
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:38,160
then they dragged them off the police
952
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:38,159
dragged them off let's see senor
953
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:46,960
i have told you we do not know if he is
954
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:50,318
here
955
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:53,838
and if i did there's
956
00:58:50,318 --> 00:58:56,639
we're not leaving at least forever now
957
00:58:53,838 --> 00:58:57,920
you don't demand nothing for me riva who
958
00:58:56,639 --> 00:59:01,759
we were what
959
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:04,798
uh can i talk to you for a minute please
960
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,480
come here
961
00:59:04,798 --> 00:59:19,838
we are not gonna leave here without our
962
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:19,838
friend tony
963
00:59:30,838 --> 00:59:33,838
hora
964
00:59:38,769 --> 00:59:41,900
[Music]
965
00:59:50,880 --> 01:00:01,838
and then
966
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:15,839
i can't walk i can't walk
967
01:00:26,838 --> 01:00:29,838
oh
968
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:38,079
tony riva the federal agent who says he
969
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:39,759
was kidnapped and tortured by mexican
970
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:42,160
police is back in the country
971
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,839
he showed up in tucson arizona where he
972
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:45,598
held a news conference today
973
01:00:43,838 --> 01:00:47,279
looking arrested agent riva made his
974
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,920
first appearance since returning to the
975
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,640
u.s
976
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,519
from his ordeal in mexico on wednesday
977
01:00:50,639 --> 01:00:54,000
of last week
978
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:56,079
reba was picked up by mexican police and
979
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,318
held in a jail in guadalajara
980
01:00:56,079 --> 01:00:59,839
overnight riva said he was tortured
981
01:00:58,318 --> 01:01:00,719
beaten and asked questions about the
982
01:00:59,838 --> 01:01:03,358
activities
983
01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:05,838
of the dea agents working in mexico the
984
01:01:03,358 --> 01:01:07,279
interrogators wanted to know
985
01:01:05,838 --> 01:01:09,119
about the way the drug enforcement
986
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:11,040
administration
987
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:12,559
the status of the investigation being
988
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:15,039
conducted in mexico
989
01:01:12,559 --> 01:01:16,079
and uh the breadth of those
990
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:18,400
investigations
991
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:20,079
on thursday riva was rescued by u.s
992
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:25,838
agents who had been looking for him
993
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:25,839
and brought back to this country
994
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,480
i'm glad for the quick action of the
995
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,280
agents in guadalajara
996
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,119
uh in locating me it hadn't been for
997
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,559
them i don't think that i'd
998
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:45,920
be here in the united states uh
999
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:48,798
but my fellow agents refused to
1000
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:51,358
allow me not to be here so well we
1001
01:01:48,798 --> 01:01:53,920
haven't what's going to happen
1002
01:01:51,358 --> 01:01:55,679
it is reprehensible for me and any law
1003
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,000
enforcement officer in the world that
1004
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:59,919
this conduct could be condoned
1005
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,760
the nature of the riva interrogation
1006
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:04,480
indicates to me that there were
1007
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,319
individuals in the halisa state police
1008
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,240
trying to determine the nature of dea's
1009
01:02:06,318 --> 01:02:09,599
investigative activity in mexico in
1010
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:12,078
guadalajara
1011
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:14,000
it is a tragedy that any country in the
1012
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:16,079
world would have to term these people
1013
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,239
police officers
1014
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:20,079
mr long do you agree with the justice
1015
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,679
department spokesman who characterized
1016
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:26,240
what happened to riva as quote
1017
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:28,558
mistreatment end quote mistreatment
1018
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:30,879
special agent anthony riva was stripped
1019
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:32,798
blindfolded bound tortured with electric
1020
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,440
shocks and beaten
1021
01:02:32,798 --> 01:02:36,159
it is scandalous that anyone could term
1022
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,280
what riva
1023
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:40,879
experienced as mistreatment does the
1024
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,559
riva incident suggest a different
1025
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:49,599
strategy for the dea in mexico
1026
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:52,079
no comment
1027
01:02:49,599 --> 01:02:54,640
yeah a different strategy to matters in
1028
01:02:52,079 --> 01:03:03,839
mexico is about to be adopted
1029
01:02:54,639 --> 01:03:03,838
get ready ray the gloves are coming off
1030
01:03:04,690 --> 01:03:07,760
[Music]
1031
01:03:14,838 --> 01:03:17,838
um
1032
01:03:28,838 --> 01:03:31,838
is
1033
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:41,358
i got rid of those other people so we
1034
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,160
don't have intermediaries taking all the
1035
01:03:41,358 --> 01:03:45,838
profits
1036
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:45,838
so now my friends
1037
01:03:54,250 --> 01:04:06,539
[Music]
1038
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:11,960
[Music]
1039
01:04:10,838 --> 01:04:22,139
hey
1040
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:23,079
[Music]
1041
01:04:22,139 --> 01:04:38,480
[Applause]
1042
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:38,480
[Music]
1043
01:04:43,869 --> 01:04:48,940
[Music]
1044
01:04:54,800 --> 01:05:09,839
[Music]
1045
01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:09,839
all right get ready
1046
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:23,700
[Music]
1047
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:30,079
they're heading for you
1048
01:05:23,699 --> 01:05:37,838
[Music]
1049
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:37,839
i'm a mile away from you
1050
01:05:40,050 --> 01:05:43,818
[Music]
1051
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,838
you see him he should be there
1052
01:05:58,139 --> 01:06:08,559
[Music]
1053
01:06:10,849 --> 01:06:13,960
[Music]
1054
01:06:20,340 --> 01:06:44,530
[Music]
1055
01:06:54,639 --> 01:06:58,838
good evening sir do you have some
1056
01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:00,079
documentation as to your immigration
1057
01:06:58,838 --> 01:07:02,719
status
1058
01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:04,318
no well then i do believe you have
1059
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:05,118
entered the united states of america
1060
01:07:04,318 --> 01:07:06,239
illegally
1061
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:10,000
and we're going to have to take you
1062
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:10,000
downtown to the immigration office for
1063
01:07:12,838 --> 01:07:15,838
processing
1064
01:07:20,798 --> 01:07:25,119
don't miss an inch i want a perfect
1065
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,039
record of the condition he was in when
1066
01:07:25,119 --> 01:07:30,079
we got him so he can't claim that he was
1067
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:30,079
tortured or starved
1068
01:07:30,719 --> 01:07:36,399
but i was kidnapped compadre
1069
01:07:34,798 --> 01:07:37,759
and i've got a very angry lawyer on his
1070
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,400
way down here from los angeles who's
1071
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,400
going to prove it
1072
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,358
we also have grounds for suit against
1073
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:49,119
the united states government
1074
01:07:45,358 --> 01:07:53,119
and when we win i'll be sunning myself
1075
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:57,838
in san felipe and you
1076
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:57,838
you'll be out of a job
1077
01:07:59,358 --> 01:08:02,480
we didn't tell you about verona because
1078
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:06,318
we
1079
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:08,400
assumed you would disapprove dea has run
1080
01:08:06,318 --> 01:08:09,679
roughshod over mexican territorial
1081
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,880
rights
1082
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:16,079
there are political ramifications here
1083
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:18,480
you can't just behave like cowboys
1084
01:08:16,079 --> 01:08:19,359
now you have a superb future ahead of
1085
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:22,718
your jack
1086
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:23,759
and just as there is life after the dea
1087
01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:25,920
so too
1088
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:27,920
there are broader considerations at work
1089
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,440
here in our overall relations with
1090
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,000
mexico that you should be
1091
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,479
sensitive to and that should encourage
1092
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,198
you
1093
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,158
to ameliorate some of your actions
1094
01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:38,238
meaning
1095
01:08:36,158 --> 01:08:39,439
i'd have better opportunities after i
1096
01:08:38,238 --> 01:08:42,079
leave dea
1097
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,599
if i water down my enforcement work
1098
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:46,798
while i'm at the dea
1099
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:50,838
water down no let's just say
1100
01:08:46,798 --> 01:08:53,838
apply the concept of being
1101
01:08:50,838 --> 01:08:56,880
selective
1102
01:08:53,838 --> 01:08:59,759
i'm a law enforcement officer
1103
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,239
my agenda is has been and will be to
1104
01:08:59,759 --> 01:09:02,399
find
1105
01:09:00,238 --> 01:09:03,919
indict and prosecute everyone connected
1106
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,198
with kiki camarena's murder and the
1107
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,279
cover-up of that murder
1108
01:09:05,198 --> 01:09:09,119
i'm not going to stop and don't you ever
1109
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:10,960
call me in here again and try to bribe
1110
01:09:09,119 --> 01:09:13,119
me with futures or ask me to do
1111
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:21,838
anything that would impede or dilute
1112
01:09:13,119 --> 01:09:21,838
that work
1113
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:30,719
okay my name is abel reynoso i'm an
1114
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,880
agent with the
1115
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:35,198
drug enforcement administration we're in
1116
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:38,640
a hotel room in downtown los angeles
1117
01:09:35,198 --> 01:09:41,759
the date is october 14th 1987.
1118
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:49,838
time is 17 30. this is a camera check
1119
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:49,838
five four three two one
1120
01:09:56,079 --> 01:10:02,960
uh for 25 000
1121
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:04,319
please don't make me look bad we don't
1122
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,480
want him to die
1123
01:10:04,319 --> 01:10:08,559
before he tells us where the snitches
1124
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,559
are
1125
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:12,719
i saw it in the stars i read my
1126
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,639
horoscope
1127
01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:17,279
everything's gonna be all right now you
1128
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,280
check the stars
1129
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,920
it's going to take a little bit to to
1130
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,640
break them down
1131
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,840
now how are you going to do that let's
1132
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,880
do some of the stuff that we're going to
1133
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,440
need
1134
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,960
soda
1135
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,960
[Applause]
1136
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,800
sure you could use an extension cord
1137
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,879
household current
1138
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,920
but the household current is stronger
1139
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,600
you don't want him to have a heart
1140
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:50,000
attack before
1141
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:53,039
the right hand victor
1142
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:57,930
how do i know that you're going to do
1143
01:10:53,039 --> 01:11:03,229
as good a job as you say you can do
1144
01:10:57,930 --> 01:11:03,229
[Applause]
1145
01:11:05,729 --> 01:11:08,929
[Applause]
1146
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,960
first thing tonight is that you we saw
1147
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:18,079
on the tape
1148
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,679
yes it was can you give us your name and
1149
01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:22,238
tell us your occupation
1150
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:22,880
my name is abel reynoso i'm a special
1151
01:11:22,238 --> 01:11:25,678
agent
1152
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,679
with the drug enforcement administration
1153
01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:29,119
that videotape was made in los angeles
1154
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:30,719
california
1155
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:32,719
is the other man who appeared in that
1156
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:35,198
tape in this courtroom
1157
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:36,399
yes he is could you point him out to us
1158
01:11:35,198 --> 01:11:39,119
please
1159
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:40,000
that man at the table with the gray suit
1160
01:11:39,119 --> 01:11:44,399
black shirt and
1161
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,399
striped tie mr victor lopez
1162
01:11:46,158 --> 01:11:50,639
in the situation that was secretly tape
1163
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:54,079
recorded who did mr lopez
1164
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:56,159
think you were a major cocaine importer
1165
01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:58,238
who brought him up from mexico to
1166
01:11:56,158 --> 01:12:00,559
torture and interrogate an informant
1167
01:11:58,238 --> 01:12:04,079
inside my organization
1168
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,880
how did you meet mr lopez mr victor
1169
01:12:04,079 --> 01:12:07,039
lopez
1170
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,000
was an officer of the jalisco state
1171
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:09,920
police
1172
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,279
at the time of the murder of special
1173
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,679
agent enrique
1174
01:12:11,279 --> 01:12:14,800
camarena we knew that he was coming to
1175
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:17,840
los angeles to
1176
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:23,840
offer his services as a paid assassin i
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01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:23,840
arranged a meeting
1178
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,840
so
1179
01:12:58,719 --> 01:13:02,000
in addition to mr camarena's blood type
1180
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,319
and hair
1181
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,600
did you find at the crime scene any
1182
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:08,319
other hair that matches
1183
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,400
anyone else in this courtroom yes sir we
1184
01:13:08,319 --> 01:13:10,960
found hairs that match samples label is
1185
01:13:10,399 --> 01:13:13,679
coming from
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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,480
mr verona from the bathroom at the lopey
1187
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:16,719
to vega house
1188
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,879
uh from the rear bedroom where mr
1189
01:13:16,719 --> 01:13:21,760
camarino was held
1190
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,039
what does this mean for me don't worry
1191
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,719
they haven't got a thing on you
1192
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:28,560
you stopped by the house you didn't know
1193
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:28,560
what was going on you didn't kill me
1194
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:32,880
from the drains leading into the main
1195
01:13:30,719 --> 01:13:34,079
sewer line from vacuuming the floors and
1196
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,480
furniture
1197
01:13:34,079 --> 01:13:36,479
thank you
1198
01:13:40,158 --> 01:13:43,920
i'm getting gray your hair's not getting
1199
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:49,520
gray
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01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:52,239
not my hair my skin this food and no sun
1201
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,199
maybe i got the burrito you ever been
1202
01:13:52,238 --> 01:13:55,469
there
1203
01:13:53,198 --> 01:13:58,568
i go to hawaii maui
1204
01:13:55,470 --> 01:13:58,569
[Applause]
1205
01:13:59,039 --> 01:14:07,039
hi guys so uh you worried
1206
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:08,719
no of course i'm worried
1207
01:14:07,039 --> 01:14:11,119
ramona knows all the players at the top
1208
01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:13,039
of the rock he can give us everything if
1209
01:14:11,119 --> 01:14:15,840
he flips
1210
01:14:13,039 --> 01:14:15,840
what's it gonna take
1211
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:21,839
a guilty verdict and more even if the
1212
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,959
court comes back with a single life
1213
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,000
sentence that won't be enough
1214
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:28,640
what's single life harley 15 years
1215
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,880
he's eligible for parole and eight i
1216
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,640
mean this guy's young but he's no virgin
1217
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,199
he can do a nickel or a dime standing on
1218
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:37,840
his ear we got a shot at him if
1219
01:14:35,198 --> 01:14:40,839
and only if we win the grand prize heavy
1220
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:43,840
duty time in some cold hard place like
1221
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,840
mary
1222
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,280
ladies and gentlemen of the jury have
1223
01:14:47,119 --> 01:14:57,840
you reached a verdict
1224
01:14:49,279 --> 01:14:57,840
yes your honor
1225
01:15:11,198 --> 01:15:14,960
on the following charges narcotics
1226
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:19,199
trafficking
1227
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:22,880
murder felony murder kidnapping
1228
01:15:19,198 --> 01:15:25,279
conspiracy we find the defendant
1229
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,279
ramon
1230
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,679
does defense have anything to say before
1231
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,799
sentence is passed
1232
01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:40,480
yes your honor who's he we sincerely
1233
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,480
feel that the jury's guilty verdict is
1234
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,799
incorrect
1235
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,718
evidence is conclusive and undisputed
1236
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,520
that when the torture was taking place
1237
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:50,800
your client was at that house and it is
1238
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:54,080
not disputed that hair
1239
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:56,560
his body was found there by fbi forensic
1240
01:15:54,079 --> 01:15:58,000
experts and when your client told one
1241
01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,560
witness
1242
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:04,399
we took care of the problem the court
1243
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:06,560
doesn't interpret that as an idle boost
1244
01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:08,319
we wish to emphasize that mr verona is a
1245
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,920
devoted family man
1246
01:16:08,319 --> 01:16:12,639
and we hope your honor will weigh this
1247
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,800
before passing sentence
1248
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:17,520
enrique camarena was also a devoted
1249
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,520
family man
1250
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,719
judge your honor
1251
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,880
you are sentencing an innocent person
1252
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,800
that's all i have to say hey mr verona
1253
01:16:31,039 --> 01:16:34,238
it's not uncommon for a co-conspirator
1254
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,480
to feel that just because he didn't
1255
01:16:34,238 --> 01:16:38,799
strike the death bro that he's innocent
1256
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:41,678
but that's not the law and you are a
1257
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:44,320
co-conspirator
1258
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:45,359
the court hereby sentences you ramon
1259
01:16:44,319 --> 01:16:47,519
verona
1260
01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:49,359
under federal statute 848 of the
1261
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,800
criminal enterprise act
1262
01:16:49,359 --> 01:16:54,319
to serve 240 years of life in prison
1263
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,719
for your involvement in the kidnap
1264
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:57,679
torture and murder of dea agent enrique
1265
01:16:56,719 --> 01:16:59,679
camarena
1266
01:16:57,679 --> 01:17:01,119
now the bench recommends that you not be
1267
01:16:59,679 --> 01:17:17,840
eligible for parole
1268
01:17:01,119 --> 01:17:17,840
for at least 60 years
1269
01:17:42,079 --> 01:17:46,238
i haven't got much time but i wanted to
1270
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:49,760
tell you first we got a conviction
1271
01:17:46,238 --> 01:17:51,519
a long long sentence for ramon verona
1272
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,800
he said to us make sure kiki won't be
1273
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:58,800
just a number
1274
01:17:52,800 --> 01:18:01,958
i made your promise
1275
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,958
[Music]
1276
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,360
okay everybody listen up listen up
1277
01:18:15,039 --> 01:18:17,359
please
1278
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,279
now i'm gonna start this off to a press
1279
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,400
conference and then come back so order
1280
01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:23,759
in some food cause we're gonna be here
1281
01:18:22,399 --> 01:18:25,359
for a while
1282
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,440
okay the word is gonna be out from
1283
01:18:25,359 --> 01:18:29,359
guadalajara to la paz if dorona just
1284
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,559
took a heavy fall
1285
01:18:29,359 --> 01:18:31,920
that means they got to figure that
1286
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,080
sooner or later he's going to give him
1287
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,960
up he's looking at 60 years of hard time
1288
01:18:34,079 --> 01:18:36,960
in marion
1289
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,079
that means that they're likely to pull
1290
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,679
out of whatever cover
1291
01:18:38,079 --> 01:18:41,439
or hideouts or banking arrangements that
1292
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,319
rona knew about and they're going to
1293
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,599
make moves
1294
01:18:42,319 --> 01:18:45,759
a lot of fish are going to break the
1295
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:47,600
surface so let's be watching
1296
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:49,760
well coach iloco was spotted in the
1297
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,199
pause now he may try to make a run back
1298
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,800
into mexico off this thing if so where
1299
01:18:51,198 --> 01:18:54,158
do you think he's going to show up
1300
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,800
kuya khan i don't know harley what do
1301
01:18:54,158 --> 01:18:58,799
you think uh well probably mazatlan
1302
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:01,039
because he owns five resort hotels there
1303
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,039
and then
1304
01:19:01,198 --> 01:19:05,119
okay on the asset side let's stay on the
1305
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,440
big money transfers
1306
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:08,319
particularly portago diaz and general
1307
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,238
ruiz
1308
01:19:08,319 --> 01:19:13,198
it'll be panamanian and cayman island
1309
01:19:10,238 --> 01:19:14,319
banks on the interdiction side
1310
01:19:13,198 --> 01:19:15,919
they're not going to trust any of the
1311
01:19:14,319 --> 01:19:17,519
air routes or drop sites that verona
1312
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:20,079
knew about so check on that
1313
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,679
yeah that's right it's a message the
1314
01:19:20,079 --> 01:19:24,399
message is if it takes
1315
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:25,039
five years or ten years there are three
1316
01:19:24,399 --> 01:19:28,639
thousand
1317
01:19:25,039 --> 01:19:31,119
agents in the dea we will never rest
1318
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,920
until every person involved in the
1319
01:19:31,119 --> 01:19:34,158
abduction
1320
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:36,000
and murder of enrique camarena is
1321
01:19:34,158 --> 01:19:38,559
brought to justice
1322
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,158
regardless of who it is and regardless
1323
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:51,840
of how long it takes
1324
01:19:40,158 --> 01:19:51,839
this is not over we won't stop
1325
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,840
oh
1326
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,800
dear harley it's hard getting the truth
1327
01:20:39,039 --> 01:20:42,960
in little pieces
1328
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:45,520
i hope to know it all someday no matter
1329
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,198
how painful
1330
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,360
it took a leap of faith for kiki to
1331
01:20:47,198 --> 01:20:51,359
become a narcotics agent
1332
01:20:49,359 --> 01:20:52,960
growing up pouring calexico he knew
1333
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:55,119
better than most the odds stacked
1334
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,960
against him
1335
01:20:55,119 --> 01:20:58,639
he had seen the misery that led people
1336
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,480
to take drugs
1337
01:20:58,639 --> 01:21:02,239
and the desperation that caused them to
1338
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,799
smuggle
1339
01:21:02,238 --> 01:21:07,279
he knew about cops who took bribes
1340
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,360
politicians who made promises
1341
01:21:07,279 --> 01:21:12,158
and judges who jailed poor kids and only
1342
01:21:09,359 --> 01:21:14,158
scolded rich ones
1343
01:21:12,158 --> 01:21:16,238
but kiki believed that one man could
1344
01:21:14,158 --> 01:21:22,559
make a difference
1345
01:21:16,238 --> 01:21:26,839
and one man has
1346
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:28,260
the black fighting rooster
1347
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:39,840
adios
1348
01:21:28,260 --> 01:21:43,440
[Music]
1349
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:57,840
that the virgin
1350
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:57,839
forgive your assassins
1351
01:21:59,899 --> 01:22:19,788
[Music]
1352
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:28,158
that's the way song goes yes that's the
1353
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,158
way
1354
01:22:29,119 --> 01:22:33,119
well i guess the virgin of our lady of
1355
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:39,840
guadalupe
1356
01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:39,840
has infinite mercy don't you
1357
01:22:43,198 --> 01:22:46,799
to those of us who are only human
1358
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,840
we'll never forgive
1359
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,920
salud kiki
1360
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,840
salute
1361
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:13,789
[Music]
1362
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:31,939
they call them
1363
01:23:21,420 --> 01:23:31,939
[Music]
1364
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:49,140
[Music]
1365
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:52,298
forgive your assassins on this day
1366
01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:52,298
[Music]
1367
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:58,189
[Music]
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01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,840
be
1369
01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:12,399
you
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