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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,164 --> 00:00:02,871 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,933 --> 00:00:06,847 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,903 --> 00:00:08,712 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,772 --> 00:00:11,548 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,608 --> 00:00:13,087 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,811 --> 00:00:16,119 (LAUGHING) 7 00:00:16,747 --> 00:00:18,624 I've been lied to by experts. 8 00:00:18,682 --> 00:00:23,495 Like I said, no wife, no roommates, no live-ins. 9 00:00:24,387 --> 00:00:25,525 No problems, baby. 10 00:00:25,589 --> 00:00:26,590 (LAUGHING) 11 00:00:26,656 --> 00:00:27,726 (MOANING) 12 00:00:28,959 --> 00:00:29,960 Oh. 13 00:00:30,460 --> 00:00:31,564 Red lipstick? 14 00:00:31,628 --> 00:00:32,629 (SIGHING) 15 00:00:33,363 --> 00:00:34,467 My mother's. 16 00:00:34,531 --> 00:00:35,669 (BOTH CHUCKLING) 17 00:00:40,704 --> 00:00:43,776 You want a drink, baby? Wine? 18 00:00:43,907 --> 00:00:46,478 Uh-huh. A glass of red wine would be nice. 19 00:00:46,543 --> 00:00:47,578 All right. 20 00:00:51,014 --> 00:00:52,960 Are you sure you're not married? 21 00:00:53,016 --> 00:00:54,893 Last time I checked. 22 00:00:55,085 --> 00:00:56,393 (FRIDGE DOOR OPENING) 23 00:00:57,220 --> 00:00:58,392 (FRIDGE DOOR CLOSING) 24 00:00:58,455 --> 00:00:59,661 (BOTTLES CLINKING) 25 00:01:01,458 --> 00:01:02,561 (BEEPING) 26 00:01:02,625 --> 00:01:05,469 WOMAN OVER SPEAKER: I did it. You don't have to worry anymore. 27 00:01:06,195 --> 00:01:07,265 I killed Dee-Dee. 28 00:01:07,329 --> 00:01:08,433 (BEEPS) 29 00:01:09,965 --> 00:01:11,171 Here we go. 30 00:01:11,233 --> 00:01:13,270 I just remembered, there's someplace I gotta be. 31 00:01:13,335 --> 00:01:14,871 Oh, Come on, baby. What's the matter? 32 00:01:14,937 --> 00:01:16,007 RATTINGER: No. 33 00:01:16,071 --> 00:01:17,641 Stop it! Stop it! Come on. 34 00:01:17,706 --> 00:01:18,980 What? (GASPS) 35 00:01:20,276 --> 00:01:21,414 Come on. 36 00:01:21,911 --> 00:01:25,358 Hey, what did I do? Come on, now! 37 00:01:25,414 --> 00:01:26,449 (SIGHS) 38 00:01:27,349 --> 00:01:29,488 The message said, "I killed her." 39 00:01:29,552 --> 00:01:31,190 Are you sure you heard right? 40 00:01:31,287 --> 00:01:34,291 (CLEARING THROAT) I mean, you said yourself, you'd had a few drinks. 41 00:01:34,490 --> 00:01:37,596 This guy had someone killed. It said so on the machine. 42 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:39,300 And where can we find him? 43 00:01:39,361 --> 00:01:42,433 You know that big building on the corner of Riverside and 114th? 44 00:01:42,498 --> 00:01:44,205 Well, that's where he lives. 45 00:01:44,266 --> 00:01:45,609 Okay. 46 00:01:45,968 --> 00:01:47,038 What's his name? 47 00:01:47,703 --> 00:01:48,943 Stanley. 48 00:01:49,338 --> 00:01:52,581 He said he was a fashion photographer, but I don't know where. 49 00:01:52,641 --> 00:01:54,780 Okay, let me see if I got this straight. 50 00:01:54,844 --> 00:01:58,917 Stanley somebody, who's a fashion photographer someplace, 51 00:01:58,981 --> 00:02:03,691 lives in some apartment, probably in a building at 114th and Riverside 52 00:02:03,752 --> 00:02:06,699 and has a message about the murder of somebody 53 00:02:06,755 --> 00:02:08,166 who might be named Dee-Dee. 54 00:02:08,324 --> 00:02:09,394 That's right. 55 00:02:09,959 --> 00:02:11,734 Yeah, thanks for coming in. 56 00:02:11,794 --> 00:02:13,831 You think you could describe him to our sketch artist? 57 00:02:14,230 --> 00:02:15,300 Yes. Good. 58 00:02:15,364 --> 00:02:17,571 You wait here. We'll bring someone. 59 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,438 Oh, this is gonna be a slam dunk, Rey. 60 00:03:08,049 --> 00:03:10,757 CRISPIN: I got Stan Arnold, Stan Hudson, 61 00:03:10,818 --> 00:03:13,230 except he's in New Mexico till the end of October. 62 00:03:13,288 --> 00:03:14,528 Stan Kaminski... 63 00:03:14,589 --> 00:03:16,227 Why don't you take a look at the picture. 64 00:03:16,791 --> 00:03:18,429 Our Stanley is a photographer. 65 00:03:18,493 --> 00:03:21,599 About my height, dark hair, likes to pick up women in bars... 66 00:03:21,663 --> 00:03:22,664 Kaminski. 67 00:03:22,997 --> 00:03:24,806 Did you see him with anyone last night? 68 00:03:24,899 --> 00:03:27,505 When the Rangers play, I don't see anything except the television. 69 00:03:27,568 --> 00:03:28,842 Where can we find him? 70 00:03:28,903 --> 00:03:31,179 He works in a lumber store, West 88th. 71 00:03:32,707 --> 00:03:35,347 She had dark hair, skinny. I don't remember her name. 72 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:37,390 Does the name "Ellen" ring a bell? 73 00:03:37,545 --> 00:03:38,683 Something happen to her? 74 00:03:38,746 --> 00:03:39,850 Just tell us what went on. 75 00:03:40,848 --> 00:03:43,328 We go back to my place. One minute she's warming up, 76 00:03:43,384 --> 00:03:45,091 next thing it's a no-hitter. 77 00:03:45,353 --> 00:03:47,390 But I didn't touch her. She saying I touched her? 78 00:03:47,455 --> 00:03:48,559 No. 79 00:03:48,623 --> 00:03:51,331 You return all the calls you got on your answering machine last night? 80 00:03:51,392 --> 00:03:53,167 I haven't checked the messages. 81 00:03:53,594 --> 00:03:55,437 CURTIS: Do you know a girl by the name of "Dee-Dee"? 82 00:03:55,496 --> 00:03:57,476 What's this got to do with my answering machine? 83 00:03:57,532 --> 00:04:00,172 She says someone left a message on your machine about Dee-Dee. 84 00:04:00,234 --> 00:04:04,114 This chick listens to my answering machine, invading my privacy, 85 00:04:04,172 --> 00:04:05,276 and I'm the one getting the third degree? 86 00:04:05,340 --> 00:04:06,648 Who's Dee-Dee, Stan? 87 00:04:06,708 --> 00:04:07,982 (LAUGHS) I don't know any Dee-Dee. 88 00:04:08,042 --> 00:04:10,181 Good, then you won't mind us listening to your messages, 89 00:04:10,244 --> 00:04:11,814 we'll clear this up, and we'll be on our way. 90 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:13,756 Come on, man, I'm working here. What do you want from me? 91 00:04:13,815 --> 00:04:15,624 We'll square it with your boss. 92 00:04:15,883 --> 00:04:17,089 And I'm leaving with two cops? 93 00:04:17,151 --> 00:04:18,425 Well, look at the bright side, Stan, 94 00:04:18,486 --> 00:04:20,295 you're not wearing handcuffs. 95 00:04:21,322 --> 00:04:22,630 (ANSWERING MACHINE BEEPING) 96 00:04:22,690 --> 00:04:25,170 AUTOMATED VOICE: Number of messages received, two. 97 00:04:25,293 --> 00:04:26,328 (BEEPING) 98 00:04:26,394 --> 00:04:29,603 Hi, this is Kristin, from the clam house last Friday. 99 00:04:29,664 --> 00:04:30,870 I'm off the whole weekend. 100 00:04:30,932 --> 00:04:34,243 Have bikini, will travel, if you still wanna go to your place in Jamaica. 101 00:04:34,335 --> 00:04:37,782 The number's 555-0137. Bye. 102 00:04:37,872 --> 00:04:38,907 (BEEPING) 103 00:04:38,973 --> 00:04:41,249 AUTOMATED VOICE: Friday, 11:20 a.m. 104 00:04:41,309 --> 00:04:42,652 You're a busy man. 105 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:43,814 (BEEPING) 106 00:04:44,278 --> 00:04:47,350 Mr. Kaminski, this is Mr. Lee from OK Cable. 107 00:04:47,415 --> 00:04:50,225 Could you give us a call regarding your outstanding balance? 108 00:04:50,284 --> 00:04:51,490 (BEEPING) 109 00:04:51,719 --> 00:04:56,395 AUTOMATED VOICE: Friday, 12:47 p.m. End of final message. 110 00:04:57,058 --> 00:04:59,504 So, which one of these is supposed to be from Dee-Dee? 111 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,698 (TAPE REWINDING) 112 00:05:02,063 --> 00:05:04,304 The tape rewinds after the last message plays? 113 00:05:04,365 --> 00:05:05,400 Yeah. 114 00:05:05,466 --> 00:05:07,275 Then, we're gonna need to take the tape with us. 115 00:05:08,736 --> 00:05:09,975 Let me just get a pen. 116 00:05:11,838 --> 00:05:13,579 555-0137. 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,641 What? 118 00:05:15,409 --> 00:05:18,788 Have bikini, will travel, 555-0137. 119 00:05:18,845 --> 00:05:19,983 (CLEARS THROAT) 120 00:05:25,185 --> 00:05:26,630 The loudness of the original message 121 00:05:26,686 --> 00:05:28,666 and the high-frequency left a print-through. 122 00:05:29,456 --> 00:05:30,867 (TAPE REWINDING) 123 00:05:32,092 --> 00:05:33,230 (BEEPING) 124 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:36,274 WOMAN: (DISTORTED) I did it. You don't have to worry anymore. 125 00:05:36,830 --> 00:05:38,434 I killed Dee-Dee. (BEEPING) 126 00:05:38,765 --> 00:05:42,212 KRISTIN: The number is 555... AUTOMATED VOICE: Thursday, 7:37 p.m. 127 00:05:42,803 --> 00:05:45,511 Sounds young. Probably female. Early 20s. 128 00:05:45,572 --> 00:05:47,916 Maybe he got one of his girlfriends to kill Dee-Dee. 129 00:05:47,974 --> 00:05:51,444 This guy's good-looking, but not that good-looking. Thanks. 130 00:05:52,379 --> 00:05:55,622 Don't you have crimes with actual bodies to investigate? 131 00:05:55,682 --> 00:05:58,128 It could be, she just wants to rattle his chain. 132 00:05:58,185 --> 00:06:00,791 Hey, if she just wanted to make trouble for him, she could've yelled "rape." 133 00:06:00,854 --> 00:06:01,924 (DOOR OPENING) 134 00:06:01,988 --> 00:06:06,164 Okay. Stanley Kaminski, 1995, assault three, probation. 135 00:06:06,226 --> 00:06:07,796 And last April, a Dina Perucci 136 00:06:07,861 --> 00:06:09,363 got an order of protection against him. 137 00:06:09,429 --> 00:06:11,102 Dina... Dee-Dee? 138 00:06:11,465 --> 00:06:13,741 Go see if Dina's still alive and kicking. 139 00:06:14,734 --> 00:06:15,838 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 140 00:06:15,902 --> 00:06:17,506 Miss Perucci? Who are you? 141 00:06:17,571 --> 00:06:19,414 I'm Detective Briscoe, this is Detective Curtis. 142 00:06:19,473 --> 00:06:22,181 I'm Theresa Green. Dina's not home. 143 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:23,413 Do you know when she'll be back? 144 00:06:23,477 --> 00:06:24,979 She hasn't been around since Monday. 145 00:06:25,278 --> 00:06:26,484 Is that unusual for her? 146 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,452 We're flight attendants. 147 00:06:28,515 --> 00:06:30,426 Do you know her boyfriend, Stan Kaminski? 148 00:06:30,484 --> 00:06:32,623 Oh, that guy? What did he do now? 149 00:06:32,686 --> 00:06:35,030 Well, she had a protection order against him. 150 00:06:35,088 --> 00:06:37,932 Dina breaks up with him, one week later, 2:00 in the morning, 151 00:06:37,991 --> 00:06:39,129 he comes banging on our door. 152 00:06:39,192 --> 00:06:40,671 When's the last time you saw her? 153 00:06:40,827 --> 00:06:43,239 Monday morning. I had a flight, 154 00:06:43,296 --> 00:06:45,674 and when I got back, she wasn't here. 155 00:06:46,833 --> 00:06:49,541 How many times do I have to tell you, I don't know this Dee-Dee. 156 00:06:49,603 --> 00:06:53,312 How about Dina Perucci. You know who she is, don't you? 157 00:06:53,673 --> 00:06:55,448 What's she got to do with this? 158 00:06:55,509 --> 00:06:57,750 She had an order of protection against you. 159 00:06:58,778 --> 00:07:00,655 Dina overreacted. 160 00:07:01,081 --> 00:07:03,027 You like playing rough with women, Stan? 161 00:07:03,083 --> 00:07:06,690 (LAUGHS) I knocked on Dina's door. What's the big deal? 162 00:07:06,753 --> 00:07:10,223 The big deal is the murder confession on your answering machine. 163 00:07:11,024 --> 00:07:12,559 Where's Dina? 164 00:07:13,526 --> 00:07:15,028 I haven't seen her in months. 165 00:07:15,194 --> 00:07:17,071 She jammed you up with that restraining order. 166 00:07:17,129 --> 00:07:18,836 Maybe you wanted to jam her, too? 167 00:07:18,898 --> 00:07:20,172 (SIGHING) 168 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:24,043 Maybe the message was a mistake, a wrong number. 169 00:07:24,103 --> 00:07:25,241 When I first got this number, 170 00:07:25,304 --> 00:07:27,181 I used to get a lot of calls for some other guy. 171 00:07:27,873 --> 00:07:29,284 This other guy got a name? 172 00:07:29,742 --> 00:07:31,346 Ray or Roy. 173 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:33,481 "Ray or Roy," that's all you got? 174 00:07:33,546 --> 00:07:34,684 Come on. Let's go. 175 00:07:34,747 --> 00:07:36,192 What about this other guy, Ray? 176 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,524 When you remember anything more about him, like his last name, 177 00:07:38,584 --> 00:07:40,461 tell lock-up, they'll let us know. 178 00:07:41,854 --> 00:07:45,996 Hey, we heard from Worldwide Dina Perucci's in Athens on a layover. 179 00:07:46,058 --> 00:07:47,537 So, Dina's not Dee-Dee. 180 00:07:47,593 --> 00:07:49,800 Or she is, and the phone call was just a prank. 181 00:07:49,862 --> 00:07:52,399 Or she isn't, and the call was for this guy, Roy. 182 00:07:52,464 --> 00:07:53,499 Listen, send Mr. Kaminski home. 183 00:07:53,566 --> 00:07:54,601 Uh-huh. 184 00:07:54,667 --> 00:07:56,112 We don't have the budget for this. 185 00:07:56,168 --> 00:07:58,045 Do you have a current address? 186 00:07:58,504 --> 00:08:00,177 All right. Thanks. 187 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,147 Roy Lawlor, he had the number before Kaminski. 188 00:08:03,475 --> 00:08:04,681 (SIGHS) 189 00:08:09,248 --> 00:08:11,626 WOMAN OVER SPEAKER: I did it. You don't have to worry anymore. 190 00:08:11,684 --> 00:08:12,958 I killed Dee-Dee. 191 00:08:15,221 --> 00:08:16,757 Do you recognize the voice? 192 00:08:16,822 --> 00:08:18,096 No idea. 193 00:08:18,924 --> 00:08:20,870 You don't know anybody named Dee-Dee, huh? 194 00:08:20,926 --> 00:08:21,961 No. 195 00:08:22,027 --> 00:08:23,870 Diane? Dina? Doris? 196 00:08:24,430 --> 00:08:27,104 Maybe somebody you met along your route? 197 00:08:27,866 --> 00:08:30,779 The only people I meet are named Roberto and Jacques. 198 00:08:30,836 --> 00:08:35,376 Oh, yeah, and Joe the barber. And they're not killing each other over me. 199 00:08:37,142 --> 00:08:39,088 Hey, two packs a day? 200 00:08:39,144 --> 00:08:40,487 Ever since I quit drinking. 201 00:08:42,982 --> 00:08:44,791 You a friend of Bill W.? 202 00:08:46,385 --> 00:08:48,922 Yeah, when I quit, I went half nuts. 203 00:08:50,756 --> 00:08:53,635 I went into the program when my marriage broke up. 204 00:08:53,692 --> 00:08:55,000 It's still a struggle. 205 00:08:55,461 --> 00:08:57,338 One day at a time, huh? 206 00:08:58,998 --> 00:09:01,535 Sure. One long day. 207 00:09:06,272 --> 00:09:07,808 Roy's out in the field most of the time. 208 00:09:07,873 --> 00:09:08,908 What does he cover? 209 00:09:08,974 --> 00:09:11,386 The Bronx, uptown Manhattan to Lincoln Center, 210 00:09:11,443 --> 00:09:13,445 East Side to 86th Street. 211 00:09:13,512 --> 00:09:14,786 You guys are from the 15? 212 00:09:14,847 --> 00:09:15,881 No, 21. 213 00:09:15,947 --> 00:09:19,053 You know anybody at the 15? I got parking problems. 214 00:09:19,117 --> 00:09:20,994 Four tickets in the past month. 215 00:09:21,753 --> 00:09:25,599 My guys pull up outside, double-park for two minutes to restock, 216 00:09:25,657 --> 00:09:28,661 by the time they get back to the car, there's a ticket. 217 00:09:28,726 --> 00:09:31,707 Listen, is Lawlor close with any of the other salesmen? 218 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:34,374 No, he doesn't spend much time with the other guys. 219 00:09:34,432 --> 00:09:37,242 Most of them work out of town, the tri-state area. 220 00:09:37,302 --> 00:09:39,077 Lawlor has to stay pretty much in the city. 221 00:09:39,137 --> 00:09:40,207 CURTIS: How come? 222 00:09:40,271 --> 00:09:41,773 I couldn't get insurance on him. 223 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:43,580 Our carrier said he was a liability. 224 00:09:44,042 --> 00:09:45,817 What's his problem? DUIs? 225 00:09:45,877 --> 00:09:47,584 HESS: Something under the influence. 226 00:09:48,513 --> 00:09:52,086 Two years ago, he got drunk, passed out, and started a fire. 227 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:53,322 Killed somebody. 228 00:09:53,651 --> 00:09:54,652 Who? 229 00:09:55,420 --> 00:09:57,331 His daughter, Diane. 230 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:59,459 Dee-Dee. 231 00:10:00,391 --> 00:10:02,701 So, what should I do with the parking tickets? 232 00:10:03,194 --> 00:10:05,834 (SIGHING) Pay them, like we do. 233 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:12,440 Five-year-old kid asleep on a daybed in a corner of the room. 234 00:10:12,503 --> 00:10:15,712 Fire company got there in the early stages, but the windows were shut. 235 00:10:15,807 --> 00:10:17,218 Smoke inhalation. 236 00:10:17,275 --> 00:10:19,312 Father recovered. Kid didn't. 237 00:10:19,377 --> 00:10:22,551 EMTs worked on her for 45 minutes, but she was already dead. 238 00:10:22,613 --> 00:10:24,183 How did it start? With a cigarette 239 00:10:24,515 --> 00:10:26,961 in the living room, near the couch where we found Lawlor. 240 00:10:27,018 --> 00:10:29,521 Says here it started three feet from the couch. 241 00:10:29,587 --> 00:10:31,066 Now usually, if someone drops a cigarette, 242 00:10:31,122 --> 00:10:32,567 doesn't the fire start on or near them? 243 00:10:32,623 --> 00:10:34,125 That's a good point. 244 00:10:34,192 --> 00:10:36,331 There were cigarette butts all over the floor. 245 00:10:36,394 --> 00:10:39,034 I guess the investigator figured one of them hit some newspapers. 246 00:10:39,097 --> 00:10:40,167 Who called it in? 247 00:10:40,231 --> 00:10:41,437 Neighbor's dog started going crazy. 248 00:10:41,833 --> 00:10:43,471 She went into the hall, smelled the smoke. 249 00:10:43,668 --> 00:10:44,772 And Lawlor says he started the fire? 250 00:10:44,836 --> 00:10:45,871 After he came to. 251 00:10:45,937 --> 00:10:47,507 He was out when they found him. 252 00:10:47,572 --> 00:10:48,607 Because of the smoke inhalation? 253 00:10:49,007 --> 00:10:53,080 That, and his blood alcohol was .25. He was loaded. 254 00:10:53,344 --> 00:10:54,846 Where was the mother at the time? 255 00:10:55,246 --> 00:10:58,284 Upstate, Saratoga. 256 00:10:59,617 --> 00:11:01,858 Awfully big memory lapse, Roy. 257 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,397 You try dealing with something like this. 258 00:11:04,455 --> 00:11:05,832 Who made the phone call? 259 00:11:05,890 --> 00:11:08,666 I don't know. Somebody's trying to spook me. 260 00:11:09,093 --> 00:11:10,936 Now who'd do that? 261 00:11:11,996 --> 00:11:13,873 I don't know. You want a list 262 00:11:13,931 --> 00:11:15,774 of the people I've pissed off, pull up a seat. 263 00:11:15,867 --> 00:11:17,437 Why don't we start with your ex-wife. 264 00:11:17,502 --> 00:11:18,674 ROY: (SIGHING) Come on. 265 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:22,373 Don't go re-hashing it with her. She's been through enough. 266 00:11:23,373 --> 00:11:25,011 She a drinker, too, Roy? 267 00:11:28,412 --> 00:11:29,686 You wanna tell us where to find her? 268 00:11:31,148 --> 00:11:32,718 I don't know where she is. 269 00:11:32,783 --> 00:11:34,285 Oh, you don't keep in touch with her? 270 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:39,230 Like I said, she's been through enough. 271 00:11:40,257 --> 00:11:42,863 You used my Social Security number to look up where I work? 272 00:11:42,926 --> 00:11:44,633 And your boss sent us here. 273 00:11:44,694 --> 00:11:47,470 (SCOFFS) Can't even drink in peace anymore. 274 00:11:47,631 --> 00:11:48,701 (SIGHING) Mrs. Lawlor... 275 00:11:48,765 --> 00:11:49,800 Call me Sandra. 276 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:52,678 And you can call me Sandy. 277 00:11:53,036 --> 00:11:57,212 Mrs. Lawlor, we need to ask you some questions about your daughter's death. 278 00:11:58,742 --> 00:12:00,449 What? We're just following up. 279 00:12:00,710 --> 00:12:03,054 The report said you were up in Saratoga. 280 00:12:03,980 --> 00:12:05,425 I was at a conference. 281 00:12:05,482 --> 00:12:08,258 What about last Thursday, around 11:00 or 12:00 in the afternoon? 282 00:12:08,318 --> 00:12:09,922 Do you remember where you were? 283 00:12:13,256 --> 00:12:15,634 I was still asleep. I didn't get up till 1:00. 284 00:12:16,026 --> 00:12:17,471 It's my day off. 285 00:12:17,527 --> 00:12:18,938 Sleeping off a late night? 286 00:12:19,529 --> 00:12:20,633 (LAUGHS) 287 00:12:20,897 --> 00:12:22,570 All my nights are late. 288 00:12:23,733 --> 00:12:26,009 Did you try calling your ex-husband that day? 289 00:12:26,636 --> 00:12:27,637 No, why? 290 00:12:27,704 --> 00:12:28,705 Somebody left him a message 291 00:12:29,139 --> 00:12:30,550 at his old number. 292 00:12:30,907 --> 00:12:33,114 Why would I call his old number? 293 00:12:33,477 --> 00:12:35,354 Last time I spoke to him was September 25th. 294 00:12:36,246 --> 00:12:37,725 You remember the exact date? 295 00:12:40,016 --> 00:12:42,189 It would've been Dee-Dee's seventh birthday. 296 00:12:45,922 --> 00:12:48,198 I pulled the IUDs off Sandra Lawlor's phone. 297 00:12:48,258 --> 00:12:49,931 No calls to Kaminski, 298 00:12:49,993 --> 00:12:52,872 but she did make some late night calls to Roy's new number. 299 00:12:54,531 --> 00:12:56,306 Hmm. All calls were a minute long. 300 00:12:56,433 --> 00:12:57,434 BRISCOE: Yeah, just long enough 301 00:12:57,501 --> 00:12:58,946 to get the answering machine and hang up. 302 00:12:59,002 --> 00:13:00,811 Lawlor was screening his calls. 303 00:13:00,937 --> 00:13:03,747 Yeah, and she also made about a dozen one-minute late night calls 304 00:13:03,807 --> 00:13:04,877 to another number. 305 00:13:04,941 --> 00:13:09,048 Get this, this number is registered to an Elaine Anderton Lawlor. 306 00:13:09,312 --> 00:13:10,655 Another Mrs. Lawlor? 307 00:13:10,714 --> 00:13:11,988 This one's on Park Avenue. 308 00:13:12,048 --> 00:13:13,584 Could be a sister, or an aunt. 309 00:13:13,717 --> 00:13:16,220 Well, whoever it is, I pulled their IUDs, too. 310 00:13:16,286 --> 00:13:18,766 The confession was made from their phone. 311 00:13:22,625 --> 00:13:23,695 ELAINE: Roy? 312 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:25,968 We got divorced eight years ago. 313 00:13:26,028 --> 00:13:28,838 He moved to the West Side six, seven months ago. 314 00:13:28,898 --> 00:13:30,309 I haven't talked to him since. 315 00:13:30,366 --> 00:13:32,004 What about Sandra Lawlor? 316 00:13:32,334 --> 00:13:34,109 His second wife? 317 00:13:34,603 --> 00:13:38,642 That drunk calls at all hours, complaining about me, complaining about him. 318 00:13:39,275 --> 00:13:41,050 Is Roy in some kind of trouble? 319 00:13:41,177 --> 00:13:43,214 We're looking into the death of his daughter, Diane. 320 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,681 Uh-huh. And? 321 00:13:45,748 --> 00:13:49,127 Someone left a message on an answering machine confessing to the arson. 322 00:13:49,351 --> 00:13:51,058 Well, what does that have to do with me? 323 00:13:51,453 --> 00:13:53,399 The call came from this apartment. 324 00:13:54,223 --> 00:13:55,600 That's impossible. 325 00:13:55,658 --> 00:13:57,501 Introduce me to your friends, Elaine. 326 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,801 Daddy, these are police detectives. 327 00:14:00,229 --> 00:14:01,640 Oh, is there a problem? 328 00:14:01,697 --> 00:14:05,338 They're saying someone used our phone to confess to killing Roy's daughter. 329 00:14:05,534 --> 00:14:06,911 Well, someone's pulling your leg. 330 00:14:06,969 --> 00:14:08,812 Be that as it may, the phone records show the call... 331 00:14:08,871 --> 00:14:10,316 In my business, I only trust records 332 00:14:10,372 --> 00:14:12,318 that I can prove haven't been tampered with. 333 00:14:13,242 --> 00:14:15,950 Well, why would somebody want to tamper with your phone records? 334 00:14:16,011 --> 00:14:19,220 (CLICKING TONGUE) My daughter is no longer married to that drunk. 335 00:14:19,481 --> 00:14:23,429 If you have questions about the fire, talk to him. He set it. 336 00:14:24,286 --> 00:14:27,028 He destroyed one life, he nearly destroyed my daughter's. 337 00:14:27,222 --> 00:14:30,066 Now, this is my lawyer. You can talk to him to your heart's content. 338 00:14:30,759 --> 00:14:33,296 Now, if you'll please leave, I'd appreciate it. 339 00:14:34,229 --> 00:14:35,230 Thank you. 340 00:14:35,297 --> 00:14:36,332 Who works for the Andertons? 341 00:14:36,398 --> 00:14:40,540 Yeah, you got two housekeepers, Elsie Ruiz and Anne Ryan, 342 00:14:40,603 --> 00:14:44,517 the cook, Emma Hooper, the chauffeur, a secretary, 343 00:14:44,573 --> 00:14:46,018 people going in and out all the time. 344 00:14:46,141 --> 00:14:47,176 Ages? 345 00:14:47,242 --> 00:14:48,619 Ruiz is around 60. 346 00:14:48,811 --> 00:14:50,051 And Ryan? 347 00:14:50,112 --> 00:14:52,615 50s. Hooper, maybe 40, 45. 348 00:14:53,148 --> 00:14:54,525 Anybody else? 349 00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:56,927 No, just Mr. Anderton, his daughter and her kid. 350 00:14:56,986 --> 00:14:58,021 Her kid? 351 00:14:58,087 --> 00:14:59,122 Yeah, Terry. 352 00:14:59,188 --> 00:15:01,634 Him and his mother have lived with Mr. Anderton since her divorce. 353 00:15:01,690 --> 00:15:03,260 How old is Terry? 354 00:15:03,325 --> 00:15:05,862 Teenager, like 14, 15. 355 00:15:06,428 --> 00:15:07,702 High-pitched voice? Yeah. 356 00:15:08,297 --> 00:15:10,174 Where is he now? He's at school. 357 00:15:10,232 --> 00:15:12,109 Their chauffeur brings him home around 4:00. 358 00:15:12,167 --> 00:15:13,475 All right, thanks. Sure. 359 00:15:14,036 --> 00:15:15,413 The kid? The kid. 360 00:15:15,471 --> 00:15:18,077 I doubt the Andertons are gonna volunteer him for a voice sample. 361 00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:20,177 Maybe he'll volunteer one himself. 362 00:15:25,414 --> 00:15:28,917 Hey, kid! We're looking for the Metropolitan Museum. 363 00:15:28,983 --> 00:15:31,361 Yeah, take a left right there, 364 00:15:31,419 --> 00:15:33,956 go three blocks over, and go straight up Fifth. 365 00:15:34,022 --> 00:15:36,525 Okay, right there, and then three blocks over? 366 00:15:36,591 --> 00:15:39,731 No, no, no. First left. Go to Fifth 367 00:15:39,794 --> 00:15:41,671 and go all the way up to the 80s. You can't miss it. 368 00:15:41,729 --> 00:15:43,902 Oh, thanks, nice talking to you. 369 00:15:47,702 --> 00:15:50,205 The kid's voice barely registers 50 decibels. 370 00:15:50,271 --> 00:15:53,946 Even with a filter, 60% match is what I can do. 371 00:15:54,442 --> 00:15:55,785 Thanks. 372 00:15:56,210 --> 00:15:59,316 60% is about 20% short of an arrest warrant. 373 00:15:59,514 --> 00:16:01,824 Let's take a look at the arson evidence. 374 00:16:02,383 --> 00:16:05,728 BRISCOE: Five cigarette butts, some newspapers, 375 00:16:05,887 --> 00:16:07,161 a couple of matchbooks. 376 00:16:07,221 --> 00:16:09,326 CURTIS: The Connaught Hotel, London. 377 00:16:09,390 --> 00:16:12,371 Yeah, my first wife wanted to stay there one night. 378 00:16:12,627 --> 00:16:14,402 I figured out we could afford one hour. 379 00:16:15,029 --> 00:16:16,906 That seem like Roy Lawlor's kind of place? 380 00:16:17,165 --> 00:16:21,011 Not the Roy Lawlor I saw, but it's right up Carl Anderton's alley. 381 00:16:22,370 --> 00:16:23,474 Where was it found? 382 00:16:24,906 --> 00:16:26,180 On the floor, in the hallway. 383 00:16:26,507 --> 00:16:28,043 Was it ever checked for prints? 384 00:16:28,109 --> 00:16:29,213 No. 385 00:16:31,279 --> 00:16:32,314 Huh. 386 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:35,384 Geniuses. The cardboard has an acetate finish. 387 00:16:35,650 --> 00:16:39,393 It's not too damaged. They should have been able to lift a print. 388 00:16:39,487 --> 00:16:41,160 Maybe they still can. 389 00:16:42,523 --> 00:16:45,197 Latent found a print on the matchbook. It's not Roy's. 390 00:16:45,259 --> 00:16:46,260 Whose? 391 00:16:46,327 --> 00:16:49,331 Well, the size of the print looks like it could belong to a kid. 392 00:16:49,397 --> 00:16:50,671 What else do you got? 393 00:16:50,732 --> 00:16:52,905 A 60% voice match on the phone call. 394 00:16:52,967 --> 00:16:57,416 Only 60%? Carl Anderton sits on the Mayor's re-election committee. 395 00:16:57,472 --> 00:17:00,248 Hey, if he sat in a booth collecting tolls for the Lincoln Tunnel, 396 00:17:00,308 --> 00:17:02,151 we'd be arresting his grandson by now. 397 00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:03,814 What's that supposed to mean? 398 00:17:04,045 --> 00:17:05,251 You've got... BRISCOE: We've got a print, 399 00:17:05,313 --> 00:17:06,383 we've got a confession. 400 00:17:06,514 --> 00:17:07,549 Motive? 401 00:17:07,982 --> 00:17:09,962 It's the kid's half-sister. You don't have to be 402 00:17:10,017 --> 00:17:11,553 a genius to come up with something. 403 00:17:12,420 --> 00:17:13,558 Then come up with something. 404 00:17:15,456 --> 00:17:16,491 What about the father? 405 00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,093 He's had plenty of opportunities 406 00:17:18,159 --> 00:17:19,661 to implicate his son, but he hasn't. 407 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:20,864 The little girl's mother? 408 00:17:20,928 --> 00:17:23,169 If she had anything to say about Terry and the fire, 409 00:17:23,231 --> 00:17:24,869 she would've said it by now. 410 00:17:24,932 --> 00:17:26,707 What about the people who live with the boy? 411 00:17:26,768 --> 00:17:29,304 I'm sure there's no shortage of household help at the Andertons'. 412 00:17:29,436 --> 00:17:32,747 Yeah. If they worked there two years ago, if we can find them, 413 00:17:32,806 --> 00:17:34,444 and if they'll talk to us. 414 00:17:35,075 --> 00:17:37,021 I have confidence in you. 415 00:17:41,681 --> 00:17:43,126 When I worked for Mr. Anderton, 416 00:17:43,183 --> 00:17:45,026 he had me sign a confidentiality agreement. 417 00:17:45,085 --> 00:17:46,723 Well, he can't stop you from talking to us. 418 00:17:46,787 --> 00:17:50,257 A little girl died in a fire we think Terry might've set. 419 00:17:50,357 --> 00:17:51,995 He makes all his employees sign one. 420 00:17:52,058 --> 00:17:53,628 This girl was five years old. 421 00:17:53,794 --> 00:17:55,432 Come on. You gonna wait for a subpoena? 422 00:17:55,495 --> 00:17:58,169 Sooner or later, you're gonna have to talk to us. 423 00:18:04,004 --> 00:18:06,177 After the fire, Terry stayed in his room, 424 00:18:06,239 --> 00:18:08,742 drawing pictures of that poor little girl. 425 00:18:09,242 --> 00:18:10,448 CURTIS: Did he talk about her? 426 00:18:10,510 --> 00:18:11,682 Only to his father. 427 00:18:12,112 --> 00:18:13,955 Terry would call him in the middle of the night. 428 00:18:14,181 --> 00:18:16,661 I could hear him from the other room, talking on and on. 429 00:18:16,716 --> 00:18:17,820 BRISCOE: About what? 430 00:18:17,884 --> 00:18:20,262 Well, Terry could only see his father on the weekends. 431 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,663 He blamed the little girl. 432 00:18:22,022 --> 00:18:23,695 What else did he say about her? 433 00:18:23,790 --> 00:18:26,361 He said she was trying to turn his father against him. 434 00:18:26,426 --> 00:18:28,872 A little girl. It was crazy. 435 00:18:29,229 --> 00:18:31,140 I thought maybe he was on drugs. 436 00:18:31,531 --> 00:18:33,943 After the fire, Terry stopped calling him. 437 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,502 Did Terry use drugs? 438 00:18:36,603 --> 00:18:38,139 I don't think so. 439 00:18:38,939 --> 00:18:41,385 Do you know where he was the night of the fire? 440 00:18:42,409 --> 00:18:43,854 I don't know. 441 00:18:45,245 --> 00:18:46,485 Two weeks after the fire, 442 00:18:46,546 --> 00:18:48,856 I checked through a bag of clothes for The Salvation Army. 443 00:18:49,116 --> 00:18:50,595 Why would you do that? 444 00:18:51,284 --> 00:18:54,458 Well, they throw things out. Lots of stuff is still good. 445 00:18:54,621 --> 00:18:56,066 So, you looked in the bag... 446 00:18:56,122 --> 00:18:57,465 (SCHOOL BELL RINGING) 447 00:18:59,192 --> 00:19:00,193 I found a shirt. 448 00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:01,261 CURTIS: And? 449 00:19:02,529 --> 00:19:04,065 You could still smell the smoke. 450 00:19:04,865 --> 00:19:06,276 Was it one of Terry's shirts? 451 00:19:10,303 --> 00:19:11,941 WOMAN: Come on, sweetie. 452 00:19:15,675 --> 00:19:17,245 CURTIS: Terry Lawlor. 453 00:19:17,310 --> 00:19:18,789 What do you think you're doing? 454 00:19:18,912 --> 00:19:20,255 We have a warrant for your son, ma'am. 455 00:19:20,313 --> 00:19:21,758 Terry Lawlor, you're under arrest 456 00:19:21,815 --> 00:19:23,192 for the murder of Diane Lawlor. 457 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:25,127 Mom... It's okay. It's a misunderstanding. 458 00:19:25,185 --> 00:19:26,493 You have the right to remain silent. 459 00:19:26,553 --> 00:19:27,793 You have the right to an attorney. 460 00:19:27,854 --> 00:19:29,299 You can talk to my lawyer about this. 461 00:19:29,356 --> 00:19:32,166 We'll be happy to talk to you and your lawyer down at the precinct. 462 00:19:32,225 --> 00:19:33,760 Getting in? 463 00:19:35,094 --> 00:19:36,698 You bastards. 464 00:19:42,201 --> 00:19:43,976 Well, I don't like it, 465 00:19:44,036 --> 00:19:47,108 my grandson having to wear some sort of electronic monitoring device 466 00:19:47,172 --> 00:19:48,412 while he's out on bail. 467 00:19:48,474 --> 00:19:50,420 All due respect, if he weren't your grandson, 468 00:19:50,476 --> 00:19:52,353 he might not even be out on bail. 469 00:19:52,411 --> 00:19:56,553 With all due respect, Mr. McCoy, if he weren't my grandson, 470 00:19:56,949 --> 00:19:59,054 he wouldn't even have been charged with the crime. 471 00:19:59,118 --> 00:20:01,564 Mr. McCoy, Terry Lawlor's a good kid. 472 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,860 Whose prints were found at an arson that killed another good kid. 473 00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:06,694 Well, that's not enough to prove that my grand... 474 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:08,670 We have enough for a trial. 475 00:20:08,994 --> 00:20:10,598 Or could we talk about a plea? 476 00:20:10,763 --> 00:20:14,438 No, no. We're here to talk about dropping the charges. 477 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,302 We'll talk about a plea with the boy's mother. 478 00:20:16,402 --> 00:20:17,472 I'm his guardian. 479 00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:21,616 I make all decisions concerning him. You'll talk to me, Mr. McCoy. 480 00:20:21,807 --> 00:20:24,549 The arson squad closed this case two years ago. 481 00:20:25,010 --> 00:20:27,183 A drunk named Roy Lawlor did it. 482 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:28,952 This case is not about Roy Lawlor. 483 00:20:29,014 --> 00:20:31,460 Nor, for that matter, is it about you, Mr. Anderton. 484 00:20:31,517 --> 00:20:33,497 Oh, it certainly is about me. 485 00:20:33,819 --> 00:20:36,356 No way you'll prove Terry set that fire. 486 00:20:36,422 --> 00:20:38,299 We have his confession on tape. 487 00:20:38,524 --> 00:20:40,003 Not for long. 488 00:20:42,127 --> 00:20:44,107 It's a motion for an audibility hearing. 489 00:20:44,163 --> 00:20:48,839 A 60% voice match is crap, and you know it. 490 00:20:55,207 --> 00:20:56,686 WEAVER: Six reports 491 00:20:56,742 --> 00:20:59,484 from three different nationally recognized experts 492 00:20:59,545 --> 00:21:04,221 comparing the tape to my client's voice and to five random samples. 493 00:21:04,450 --> 00:21:06,953 My wife's voice was a 50% match. 494 00:21:07,386 --> 00:21:09,559 We're not offering a conclusive match, Your Honor, 495 00:21:09,622 --> 00:21:11,659 but a probable one in light of the other evidence. 496 00:21:11,724 --> 00:21:14,705 Your Honor, the tape was altered in the lab. 497 00:21:15,127 --> 00:21:18,131 The call to the answering machine came from his client's home. 498 00:21:18,197 --> 00:21:19,835 That may be so, but whether or not 499 00:21:19,898 --> 00:21:21,809 my client made the call is the issue. 500 00:21:22,234 --> 00:21:24,373 JUDGE SIMONS: Mr. McCoy, the tape was enhanced, 501 00:21:24,436 --> 00:21:27,815 and produced a voice match disputed by experts. 502 00:21:28,407 --> 00:21:29,579 By defense experts. 503 00:21:29,642 --> 00:21:31,451 I also heard your experts. 504 00:21:31,744 --> 00:21:33,052 I listened to the tapes 505 00:21:33,112 --> 00:21:36,490 and I can't tell that the two voices are from the same person. 506 00:21:36,781 --> 00:21:39,523 Given the inflammatory nature of the tape's content, 507 00:21:39,784 --> 00:21:41,422 I'm going to suppress it. 508 00:21:43,721 --> 00:21:47,191 Carl Anderton's grandson. Carl's a good man. 509 00:21:47,692 --> 00:21:50,468 We worked on the Lindsay campaign together. 510 00:21:50,962 --> 00:21:52,635 We're not prosecuting him. 511 00:21:52,697 --> 00:21:55,576 The boy obviously feels repentant for what he did. 512 00:21:55,633 --> 00:21:57,442 He called his father, didn't he? 513 00:21:57,735 --> 00:21:58,873 You offered a plea? 514 00:21:58,936 --> 00:22:00,040 We got turned down. 515 00:22:00,104 --> 00:22:02,050 What kind of plea? We didn't get that far. 516 00:22:02,106 --> 00:22:04,143 He turned down the idea of a plea. 517 00:22:04,208 --> 00:22:06,154 Adam, why are we pussyfooting around? 518 00:22:06,277 --> 00:22:10,316 The man has a $4 billion war chest. Three years ago, 519 00:22:10,715 --> 00:22:14,857 the Atlantic-Star Cable merger, he took on the SEC and won. 520 00:22:15,653 --> 00:22:16,961 He's rich, he's powerful. 521 00:22:17,021 --> 00:22:19,126 Maybe we should let Robin Leach try the case. 522 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:21,431 Carl Anderton brought down a governor, 523 00:22:21,959 --> 00:22:25,736 put senators in office, and now he's fighting for his grandson. 524 00:22:29,300 --> 00:22:30,711 I'm not kissing his ass, Adam. 525 00:22:30,768 --> 00:22:33,271 I want you to treat him with respect. 526 00:22:34,772 --> 00:22:36,979 He gets the same from me as everybody else. 527 00:22:38,443 --> 00:22:40,218 I don't care who he is. 528 00:22:42,780 --> 00:22:43,815 (DOOR OPENING) 529 00:22:43,881 --> 00:22:45,827 Bobby Kennedy sat right in that chair over there, 530 00:22:45,883 --> 00:22:47,123 smoking Monte Cruise, 531 00:22:47,685 --> 00:22:50,256 right after we signed the Bedford-Stuyvesant Restoration Agreement. 532 00:22:50,321 --> 00:22:51,959 Remember? Yeah. 533 00:22:52,223 --> 00:22:53,258 You were sitting at... 534 00:22:53,324 --> 00:22:54,735 I stood right over there. 535 00:22:56,494 --> 00:22:59,964 Yeah. That's right. You want something, Adam? 536 00:23:00,031 --> 00:23:01,635 No, thank you. 537 00:23:04,836 --> 00:23:07,407 You know why I'm here. 538 00:23:07,538 --> 00:23:10,144 We've been through some rough times together, Carl. 539 00:23:11,275 --> 00:23:12,879 This is gonna be another one. 540 00:23:13,244 --> 00:23:15,349 It's just gonna end up a bloody mess. 541 00:23:16,114 --> 00:23:18,993 Adam, if you wanted to, you could make it go away. 542 00:23:19,617 --> 00:23:21,927 (SIGHING) Your grandson confessed. 543 00:23:21,986 --> 00:23:23,363 No, that was no confession. 544 00:23:23,788 --> 00:23:26,132 Terry was just trying to make his father feel better. 545 00:23:26,457 --> 00:23:28,300 The boy has a good heart. 546 00:23:28,893 --> 00:23:33,603 There's other evidence. A plea bargain is the best way to go. 547 00:23:36,434 --> 00:23:39,607 When is your term up? Is it next spring, what? 548 00:23:41,738 --> 00:23:42,808 What are you implying? 549 00:23:42,973 --> 00:23:44,884 Don't misunderstand me. 550 00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:48,046 We go back a long way. 551 00:23:50,414 --> 00:23:52,394 It was a different city. 552 00:23:53,250 --> 00:23:56,891 But you know, the important things, loyalty and friendship, 553 00:23:57,487 --> 00:23:59,228 they haven't changed. 554 00:23:59,422 --> 00:24:01,026 No, they haven't. 555 00:24:01,892 --> 00:24:04,566 He's my only grandson, Adam, 556 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:09,167 and you were at his mother's wedding. 557 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:13,541 I've got pictures of you holding the boy when he was a baby. 558 00:24:13,637 --> 00:24:16,641 I'm sorry, Carl. There's a plea offer on the table. 559 00:24:17,007 --> 00:24:19,988 Take it, don't take it, it's up to you. 560 00:24:20,043 --> 00:24:24,992 Adam, you deny me this personal request? 561 00:24:28,785 --> 00:24:30,822 I can't do this, my friend. 562 00:24:33,256 --> 00:24:34,496 I won't. 563 00:24:38,895 --> 00:24:40,067 (INHALES DEEPLY) 564 00:24:41,097 --> 00:24:45,136 A fingerprint on an old matchbook and a smelly shirt, 565 00:24:47,137 --> 00:24:49,310 not the strongest case I've ever taken to trial. 566 00:24:49,372 --> 00:24:52,649 It might help if we could tell a jury what turned Terry into an arsonist. 567 00:24:53,710 --> 00:24:56,816 He was angry at his father. That's an emotion I can understand. 568 00:24:57,914 --> 00:24:59,518 Something pushed him over the edge. 569 00:25:01,351 --> 00:25:04,491 The nanny suspected drugs. It'd be nice to be able to prove it. 570 00:25:04,621 --> 00:25:06,999 I checked the school records, medical records, insurance, 571 00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:09,162 there's no sign he ever had a drug problem. 572 00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:11,437 What about friends? 573 00:25:11,561 --> 00:25:12,972 I haven't found any. 574 00:25:13,396 --> 00:25:16,206 And I can't get anybody at his school to say anything bad about him. 575 00:25:16,566 --> 00:25:18,739 They're afraid of losing a future endowment. 576 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:22,379 What about other schools the boy attended? 577 00:25:22,572 --> 00:25:26,384 Selwyn Academy. The prep he was at when the fire occurred. 578 00:25:26,643 --> 00:25:27,849 They won't talk to me either. 579 00:25:28,812 --> 00:25:29,950 That their yearbook? 580 00:25:30,013 --> 00:25:31,014 Mmm-hmm. 581 00:25:35,485 --> 00:25:37,726 Looks pretty harmless in a jacket and tie. 582 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:39,130 You all do. 583 00:25:39,489 --> 00:25:42,163 Yeah. Oh, look, here. 584 00:25:43,292 --> 00:25:44,532 They had a school counselor. 585 00:25:45,494 --> 00:25:47,804 If the kid was doing drugs, maybe she'll know about it. 586 00:25:51,867 --> 00:25:53,574 Drugs weren't his problem. 587 00:25:53,636 --> 00:25:55,843 Maybe he would've been better off if they were. 588 00:25:55,905 --> 00:25:57,043 What was his problem? 589 00:25:57,106 --> 00:25:58,176 His real problem? 590 00:25:58,707 --> 00:26:00,186 I never got the chance to find out. 591 00:26:00,910 --> 00:26:03,891 But his behavior in school was something else. 592 00:26:04,380 --> 00:26:05,381 A handful? 593 00:26:05,681 --> 00:26:07,024 Depending on when you caught him. 594 00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:09,323 He could be a charmer one week, 595 00:26:09,385 --> 00:26:11,558 and then an absolute monster the next. 596 00:26:11,620 --> 00:26:14,931 He'd get in these funks, and I could hardly get a word out of him. 597 00:26:15,524 --> 00:26:17,936 Given his home life, wouldn't you expect him to be moody? 598 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,271 It wasn't about that. 599 00:26:20,329 --> 00:26:23,970 He decided to run for Student President of the middle school. 600 00:26:24,533 --> 00:26:28,276 He had a very well-articulated platform, posters, the whole bit. 601 00:26:29,138 --> 00:26:31,049 A week before the election, he withdrew. 602 00:26:31,974 --> 00:26:34,955 I asked him why. He went into a diatribe 603 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:39,049 about the other candidate sabotaging his campaign, planting spies. 604 00:26:39,481 --> 00:26:40,653 Was it true? 605 00:26:43,719 --> 00:26:46,290 He said he could hear them whispering through the walls. 606 00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:54,667 Paranoia, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder... 607 00:26:55,464 --> 00:26:56,738 You expect me to make a diagnosis 608 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,779 based on the observations of an amateur? 609 00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:01,041 Yeah. You got a problem with that? 610 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:08,279 Okay. He can't relate to others, has low tolerance for frustration, 611 00:27:08,344 --> 00:27:10,153 he's unpredictable... 612 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,388 So far, that's my kid. 613 00:27:13,782 --> 00:27:17,127 Now, the fear and suspicion, the whispering through the walls, 614 00:27:17,653 --> 00:27:19,963 sounds like he's in the early stages of bipolar disorder. 615 00:27:20,622 --> 00:27:21,930 Bipolar disorder. 616 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:24,732 Alternating cycles of depression and mania. 617 00:27:25,494 --> 00:27:27,337 Periods of feeling better than normal, 618 00:27:27,396 --> 00:27:29,740 brighter and more energetic and charming, 619 00:27:30,065 --> 00:27:32,306 hyper-sexuality and poor judgment. 620 00:27:32,735 --> 00:27:36,114 Then, suddenly irritability, aggression, 621 00:27:36,538 --> 00:27:40,213 delusions of persecution, hearing voices. 622 00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:42,150 That's what's going on with this kid? 623 00:27:42,211 --> 00:27:44,885 It's a third-hand diagnosis. Take it for what it's worth. 624 00:27:45,813 --> 00:27:47,884 But it might explain why the kid's a fire bug. 625 00:27:49,817 --> 00:27:51,660 If he's crazy, why isn't his lawyer 626 00:27:51,719 --> 00:27:53,699 going for an insanity defense? 627 00:27:58,392 --> 00:27:59,530 Good question. 628 00:28:03,498 --> 00:28:05,944 Bipolar disorder? 629 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,810 I think you need your head examined, Mr. McCoy. 630 00:28:09,203 --> 00:28:11,342 We didn't just pull this out of thin air. 631 00:28:11,472 --> 00:28:14,282 We talked to a former school counselor, to his friends... 632 00:28:14,375 --> 00:28:17,083 People with impeccable credentials in the field of psychiatry. 633 00:28:17,145 --> 00:28:20,217 The behavior they observed can't be explained any other way. 634 00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:24,559 Mr. Anderton, I don't have any interest in prosecuting your grandson 635 00:28:24,619 --> 00:28:26,121 if he has a mental disease. 636 00:28:26,187 --> 00:28:28,224 There is nothing wrong with Terry. 637 00:28:28,289 --> 00:28:30,462 Then, you won't mind if our psychiatrist examines him. 638 00:28:30,525 --> 00:28:32,698 WEAVER: So you can gather evidence against him? 639 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,995 I don't think so. 640 00:28:34,061 --> 00:28:35,836 JACK: It would be off the record. You have nothing to lose. 641 00:28:35,897 --> 00:28:38,935 Mr. Anderton, your grandson needs treatment, not prison. 642 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,573 The way your case is going, he doesn't have to worry about prison. 643 00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:46,340 Sir, your grandson killed that little girl. 644 00:28:47,375 --> 00:28:50,913 Either in prison or in a psychiatric hospital, he's going to answer for it. 645 00:28:51,145 --> 00:28:56,094 At the end of this, Mr. McCoy, my grandson is coming home with me. 646 00:29:02,924 --> 00:29:07,498 We'll see what a judge has to say about that. I'm moving for a 730 exam. 647 00:29:10,798 --> 00:29:13,278 Your Honor, I've brought this motion in the interest of justice. 648 00:29:13,601 --> 00:29:16,013 Aren't the defendant's best interests served by his counsel? 649 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:18,414 Unless counsel refuses to acknowledge the obvious. 650 00:29:18,472 --> 00:29:19,610 What obvious? 651 00:29:19,674 --> 00:29:22,245 Your Honor, the defendant hasn't been howling at the moon 652 00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:23,653 or ripping his hair out. 653 00:29:23,711 --> 00:29:24,746 He's not crazy. 654 00:29:24,812 --> 00:29:27,452 If there's nothing wrong with his client, then a 730 exam can't... 655 00:29:27,515 --> 00:29:31,486 A pointless proceeding that can only be to my client's detriment. 656 00:29:31,552 --> 00:29:35,022 The prosecutors can question him in violation of his rights. 657 00:29:35,089 --> 00:29:38,798 Mr. McCoy, if his client's mental condition is so obvious, 658 00:29:39,026 --> 00:29:41,597 then it should be apparent if I talk to him. 659 00:29:41,896 --> 00:29:45,742 I'll question him in chambers and decide if your motion has merit. 660 00:29:45,833 --> 00:29:47,676 I'd like our psychiatrist to observe. 661 00:29:47,735 --> 00:29:48,873 Absolutely not. 662 00:29:49,103 --> 00:29:51,810 I'll decide what goes on in my chambers, Mr. Weaver. 663 00:29:52,172 --> 00:29:56,780 Mr. McCoy's psychiatrist can observe, but I'll be the one asking the questions. 664 00:29:56,843 --> 00:29:58,254 BAILIFF: The court is back in session. 665 00:29:58,445 --> 00:29:59,446 Judge Jane... 666 00:29:59,513 --> 00:30:00,685 JUDGE SIMONS: So you understand 667 00:30:00,747 --> 00:30:03,227 everything that's happened in this case so far? 668 00:30:03,283 --> 00:30:04,523 Yes, ma'am. 669 00:30:04,918 --> 00:30:06,625 And how do you feel about all this? 670 00:30:07,854 --> 00:30:08,958 Scared. 671 00:30:09,656 --> 00:30:13,399 Understandable. And how is it for you, at home? 672 00:30:13,660 --> 00:30:15,503 Well, I've been playing a lot of Nintendo. 673 00:30:15,562 --> 00:30:18,236 I can't really rollerblade with this thing on. 674 00:30:22,869 --> 00:30:26,681 Thank you for coming in. You can wait for Mr. Weaver outside. 675 00:30:29,976 --> 00:30:31,284 (DOOR OPENING) 676 00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:34,615 (DOOR CLOSING) 677 00:30:34,681 --> 00:30:37,093 He seems like a normal teenager to me. 678 00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:39,061 With all due respect, Your Honor, 679 00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:40,962 I would have asked different questions. 680 00:30:41,354 --> 00:30:44,301 That's why you were allowed here only as an observer. 681 00:30:44,357 --> 00:30:45,927 Your Honor, Dr. Skoda's point is... 682 00:30:45,992 --> 00:30:48,495 Mr. McCoy, I don't care what his point is. 683 00:30:49,563 --> 00:30:52,601 I'm satisfied that the defendant is of sound mind. 684 00:30:52,833 --> 00:30:56,246 Your motion for a 730 exam is denied. 685 00:30:57,871 --> 00:30:59,475 DR. SKODA: I'm not a mind reader, Jack. 686 00:30:59,539 --> 00:31:01,815 "Hi, how are you?" is not a diagnostic question. 687 00:31:01,875 --> 00:31:03,286 You can't tell me anything? 688 00:31:03,944 --> 00:31:07,118 He likes rollerblading and Nintendo. So do I. 689 00:31:07,614 --> 00:31:09,821 I don't get it. They should've jumped at a chance for the exam. 690 00:31:09,883 --> 00:31:11,385 They think they're going to win. 691 00:31:11,585 --> 00:31:14,794 The way things are going, they're probably right. So now what? 692 00:31:14,921 --> 00:31:16,264 We go to trial. 693 00:31:17,023 --> 00:31:19,731 If they won't use his mental state to get him acquitted, fine, 694 00:31:20,227 --> 00:31:24,141 we'll use it to convict him. He set the fire because he's deluded. 695 00:31:24,598 --> 00:31:27,135 If he has a mental disease, he doesn't belong in prison, Jack. 696 00:31:27,534 --> 00:31:28,706 Maybe it won't come down to that. 697 00:31:28,768 --> 00:31:29,906 And what if it does? 698 00:31:31,004 --> 00:31:32,608 That's what they pay us for. 699 00:31:36,943 --> 00:31:41,915 After Dee-Dee was born, Terry became aggressive with her. 700 00:31:42,883 --> 00:31:44,294 JACK: In what way? 701 00:31:44,484 --> 00:31:46,725 Squeezing her too hard, for one thing. 702 00:31:46,820 --> 00:31:48,629 Did you discuss this with your husband? 703 00:31:49,723 --> 00:31:52,896 I told Roy I didn't want Terry around her. 704 00:31:53,025 --> 00:31:56,199 I was afraid he might do something. 705 00:31:57,530 --> 00:32:00,170 We cut his visits to just weekends, when I could be there. 706 00:32:00,232 --> 00:32:02,473 Why didn't you tell the police any of this before? 707 00:32:02,701 --> 00:32:06,080 I didn't think it mattered. Roy said the fire was his fault. 708 00:32:07,006 --> 00:32:08,417 Thank you. Nothing further. 709 00:32:10,743 --> 00:32:12,689 Mrs. Lawlor, were there any witnesses, 710 00:32:12,745 --> 00:32:15,692 other than yourself, who saw Terry hug Diane? 711 00:32:16,415 --> 00:32:18,486 (SCOFFS) No. 712 00:32:19,418 --> 00:32:20,453 Do you drink? 713 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:21,554 Objection. Relevance. 714 00:32:21,987 --> 00:32:23,398 Goes to credibility. 715 00:32:24,123 --> 00:32:26,535 Overruled. Answer the question. 716 00:32:26,925 --> 00:32:28,905 I have a few drinks every day. 717 00:32:29,128 --> 00:32:32,769 And isn't it true that on two occasions you and your husband 718 00:32:32,831 --> 00:32:36,506 got into a fight so severe neighbors had to call the police? 719 00:32:36,568 --> 00:32:37,569 Yes, but... 720 00:32:37,636 --> 00:32:41,550 That this was an example of the kind of home you and Roy Lawlor kept, 721 00:32:41,607 --> 00:32:44,451 and it was Terry's mother and grandfather... 722 00:32:44,510 --> 00:32:45,545 JACK: Objection. 723 00:32:45,611 --> 00:32:47,249 ...who curtailed Terry's visits, not you, 724 00:32:47,313 --> 00:32:49,315 because they feared for his safety? 725 00:32:49,381 --> 00:32:50,553 He's testifying, Your Honor. 726 00:32:50,616 --> 00:32:51,686 Sustained. 727 00:32:52,017 --> 00:32:55,157 The jury will disregard Mr. Weaver's last remark. 728 00:32:55,554 --> 00:32:57,363 WEAVER: No further questions. 729 00:32:59,425 --> 00:33:02,929 On certain occasions Terry told me he thought he was being persecuted. 730 00:33:03,529 --> 00:33:05,770 For example, toward the end of the school year, 731 00:33:05,831 --> 00:33:09,108 Terry was convinced that the other students were conspiring against him. 732 00:33:09,168 --> 00:33:10,476 Did he tell you how he knew this? 733 00:33:10,569 --> 00:33:12,310 Objection. Hearsay. 734 00:33:12,705 --> 00:33:15,379 The testimony isn't offered to prove the truth of the statement, 735 00:33:15,941 --> 00:33:18,547 but to demonstrate the defendant's state of mind at the time. 736 00:33:19,044 --> 00:33:21,547 JUDGE SIMONS: Overruled. The witness will answer. 737 00:33:21,947 --> 00:33:23,756 GAREY: He said he could hear the other students... 738 00:33:23,816 --> 00:33:26,262 Your Honor, may we approach the bench? 739 00:33:30,823 --> 00:33:32,962 This witness is a high school counselor. 740 00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:36,296 She's not accredited by any graduate school of psychiatry 741 00:33:36,362 --> 00:33:37,568 or psychology... 742 00:33:37,629 --> 00:33:40,633 She isn't being asked to offer a professional diagnosis, 743 00:33:40,699 --> 00:33:44,374 but only to describe observed behavior, which any lay person can do. 744 00:33:44,670 --> 00:33:45,705 He's right, Mr. Weaver. 745 00:33:46,939 --> 00:33:50,011 Your Honor, in her capacity as school counselor, 746 00:33:50,075 --> 00:33:53,147 anything she was told by my client falls under patient privilege. 747 00:33:53,212 --> 00:33:54,589 He can't have it both ways. 748 00:33:54,813 --> 00:33:57,588 Either she's a qualified mental health practitioner or she isn't. 749 00:33:58,082 --> 00:34:01,029 You really can't, Mr. Weaver. Now step back. 750 00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:05,765 Ms. Garey, please answer Mr. McCoy's question. 751 00:34:07,358 --> 00:34:09,099 GAREY: He told me he could hear the other students 752 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,140 whispering about him through the walls. 753 00:34:11,696 --> 00:34:14,870 What, if any, other behavior did you notice around this time? 754 00:34:15,166 --> 00:34:17,009 Your Honor, we request a recess. 755 00:34:17,068 --> 00:34:18,513 For what purpose? 756 00:34:18,836 --> 00:34:20,782 To consult with the District Attorney. 757 00:34:21,072 --> 00:34:22,073 Mr. McCoy? 758 00:34:22,140 --> 00:34:23,141 We have no objection. 759 00:34:23,274 --> 00:34:25,447 Very well. Court is now in recess. 760 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:27,615 We will reconvene at 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. 761 00:34:28,045 --> 00:34:29,183 (GAVEL POUNDS) 762 00:34:29,714 --> 00:34:32,422 We're prepared to plead to second degree manslaughter. 763 00:34:33,151 --> 00:34:36,325 That fire was an accident. There was no premeditation. 764 00:34:36,521 --> 00:34:39,297 And Terry certainly didn't mean to hurt anyone. 765 00:34:39,557 --> 00:34:40,763 You'd let him go to jail? 766 00:34:40,892 --> 00:34:44,169 We're talking minimum time in a juvenile facility. 767 00:34:44,862 --> 00:34:47,308 Prison is prison. 768 00:34:48,266 --> 00:34:51,008 Mr. Anderton, do you really think that's where your grandson belongs? 769 00:34:51,068 --> 00:34:52,342 That's where you want to send him. 770 00:34:52,437 --> 00:34:55,475 You heard the testimony. Your grandson needs psychiatric help. 771 00:34:55,706 --> 00:34:56,878 Absolutely not! 772 00:34:56,941 --> 00:34:58,511 I don't understand you, Mr. Anderton. 773 00:34:58,576 --> 00:35:00,385 We're offering him... What? 774 00:35:00,445 --> 00:35:02,118 The chance to stay in a loony bin 775 00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:04,717 till some state employee decides he can leave? 776 00:35:07,185 --> 00:35:11,031 I know what this is really all about, Mr. McCoy. 777 00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:15,796 You're going after my grandson to embarrass me. 778 00:35:16,327 --> 00:35:19,433 Yes! Personally, professionally, publicly. 779 00:35:23,935 --> 00:35:28,315 I know your type. You think that to bring down a man 780 00:35:28,372 --> 00:35:31,114 who's accomplished something in life, it builds you up. 781 00:35:31,943 --> 00:35:33,945 You're not gonna get away with it. 782 00:35:34,011 --> 00:35:35,991 I put a fair offer on the table. 783 00:35:36,714 --> 00:35:41,163 You turn it down, I'll go public and I'll expose you 784 00:35:41,219 --> 00:35:45,793 for the vindictive, envious little man you really are. 785 00:35:48,993 --> 00:35:51,200 FEMALE REPORTER: Mr. Anderton? Can you give us a statement? 786 00:35:51,262 --> 00:35:53,970 MALE REPORTER: What were you talking to the D.A. about, Mr. Anderton? 787 00:35:54,332 --> 00:35:56,608 Tell Mr. Anderton we'll think about his offer. 788 00:35:56,768 --> 00:35:58,577 (REPORTERS CLAMORING) 789 00:36:01,338 --> 00:36:03,909 I don't get it. Is he waiting for a better offer? 790 00:36:04,307 --> 00:36:06,218 Is he setting us up for an appeal? 791 00:36:07,043 --> 00:36:08,147 What did Skoda say? 792 00:36:08,779 --> 00:36:12,921 Charming one minute, aggressive and paranoid the next. Sound familiar? 793 00:36:14,184 --> 00:36:17,563 Carl Anderton. Like grandfather, like grandson? 794 00:36:19,289 --> 00:36:21,530 Maybe that's the conclusion he's afraid of. 795 00:36:21,591 --> 00:36:23,798 Get everything you can on him. 796 00:36:26,196 --> 00:36:29,700 In 1951, he was taken out of Andover in the middle of the school year. 797 00:36:30,967 --> 00:36:32,446 Got homesick. 798 00:36:32,502 --> 00:36:34,573 He finished out the rest of the year at Austen Riggs, 799 00:36:34,638 --> 00:36:36,345 the Boy's Town of the rich and famous. 800 00:36:36,673 --> 00:36:40,086 He spent the next two years at home with tutors. 801 00:36:41,311 --> 00:36:43,348 Carl was always high-spirited. 802 00:36:43,747 --> 00:36:45,420 This wasn't high spirits, Adam. 803 00:36:45,782 --> 00:36:48,319 I've tracked his press clippings over the last 30 years. 804 00:36:48,385 --> 00:36:49,659 There are unexplained absences, 805 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,255 or he checked himself into a hospital, 806 00:36:51,321 --> 00:36:53,358 suffering from exhaustion. 807 00:36:53,423 --> 00:36:54,527 Next. 808 00:36:54,958 --> 00:36:58,269 Last April, he made a surprise take-over bid for Commonwealth Airlines. 809 00:36:58,328 --> 00:36:59,898 One week later, he withdrew the bid 810 00:36:59,963 --> 00:37:03,069 and accused the FAA and the stockholders of conspiring against him. 811 00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:05,874 It's classic manic-depressive behavior. 812 00:37:06,636 --> 00:37:10,675 Doesn't make sense. Runs a Fortune 500 company. 813 00:37:10,774 --> 00:37:11,912 So did Howard Hughes. 814 00:37:11,975 --> 00:37:13,852 He could be fully functional, if he's medicated. 815 00:37:15,211 --> 00:37:16,747 I don't want you to humiliate him. 816 00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:20,855 He's standing between his own grandson and an appropriate disposition. 817 00:37:21,585 --> 00:37:23,428 I want him to get out of the way. 818 00:37:26,256 --> 00:37:29,260 Maybe his daughter can talk some sense into him. 819 00:37:31,127 --> 00:37:32,800 My father loves my son. 820 00:37:33,096 --> 00:37:35,542 If Terry were sick, don't you think he'd get him help? 821 00:37:35,832 --> 00:37:38,312 Unless he's afraid it'd trace back to him. 822 00:37:38,401 --> 00:37:40,312 Trace what? The mental illness. 823 00:37:40,737 --> 00:37:43,411 I told you, my father's in perfect mental health. 824 00:37:43,473 --> 00:37:45,578 He's a public figure. People would've noticed. 825 00:37:45,642 --> 00:37:47,212 Not if he's taking medication. 826 00:37:47,477 --> 00:37:49,423 JACK: And maybe they have noticed, Mrs. Lawlor. 827 00:37:49,946 --> 00:37:52,256 Look at how the media describes him. 828 00:37:52,315 --> 00:37:55,626 Colorful, eccentric, mercurial, unpredictable. 829 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:59,760 This is not a smear. To a psychiatrist it's code for unstable. 830 00:38:00,123 --> 00:38:02,625 See for yourself. Check his medicine cabinet. 831 00:38:02,691 --> 00:38:06,070 If he's taking Tegretol, Risperdal, valproic acid, lithium... 832 00:38:06,962 --> 00:38:09,272 My father only takes medication to help him sleep, 833 00:38:09,331 --> 00:38:10,776 to calm him down. 834 00:38:10,833 --> 00:38:12,176 His days are very stressful. 835 00:38:12,268 --> 00:38:15,078 Or to control his unpredictable mood swings. 836 00:38:15,738 --> 00:38:17,979 Look, did your father tell you 837 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,917 that he offered to let Terry plead 838 00:38:19,975 --> 00:38:21,818 to Manslaughter in the Second Degree? 839 00:38:22,611 --> 00:38:25,683 Our offer is, he pleads not guilty by reason of mental disease, 840 00:38:25,748 --> 00:38:28,422 he goes to a psychiatric facility instead of to prison. 841 00:38:34,089 --> 00:38:37,036 My father is Terry's guardian. 842 00:38:37,927 --> 00:38:39,998 I don't have any authority. I can't... 843 00:38:45,167 --> 00:38:46,737 I don't know what to do. 844 00:38:55,611 --> 00:38:56,954 What are you doing here? 845 00:38:57,146 --> 00:38:58,648 Adam, what is this, some kind of... 846 00:38:58,747 --> 00:39:02,718 I invited her, on the off-chance that someone in your family 847 00:39:02,785 --> 00:39:04,958 would act in your grandson's best interests. 848 00:39:05,254 --> 00:39:06,358 What's that supposed to mean? 849 00:39:06,422 --> 00:39:09,995 Mr. Anderton, let's just find out what McCoy decided. 850 00:39:11,593 --> 00:39:12,833 You thought about our offer? 851 00:39:13,362 --> 00:39:14,432 (DOOR CLOSING) 852 00:39:16,432 --> 00:39:17,968 Man two? Out of the question. 853 00:39:18,934 --> 00:39:23,542 The choice is man one or not guilty by reason of mental disease. 854 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:24,947 Back to that? 855 00:39:25,407 --> 00:39:27,409 When are you going to get it through your thick skull. 856 00:39:27,476 --> 00:39:29,114 My grandson doesn't belong in a hospital. 857 00:39:29,211 --> 00:39:31,418 Daddy, he does need help. 858 00:39:32,147 --> 00:39:33,626 You wait outside until we're through. 859 00:39:34,083 --> 00:39:35,426 She's staying. 860 00:39:35,718 --> 00:39:37,197 Outside. ELAINE: No. 861 00:39:41,257 --> 00:39:43,328 It doesn't matter what she thinks. I'm his guardian. 862 00:39:43,392 --> 00:39:45,633 JACK: That can change, Mr. Anderton. 863 00:39:46,495 --> 00:39:48,338 You've got to agree to this, Carl. 864 00:39:48,397 --> 00:39:50,741 We're gonna petition to have her appointed 865 00:39:50,799 --> 00:39:53,541 Guardian ad Litem of your grandson. 866 00:39:53,936 --> 00:39:55,142 What? On what basis? 867 00:39:55,638 --> 00:39:56,878 Mental competency. 868 00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:58,074 Whose? 869 00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:00,979 Yours. 870 00:40:03,145 --> 00:40:05,751 We know about your stay at Austen Riggs, 871 00:40:06,247 --> 00:40:08,318 the private tutors, hospitals... 872 00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:11,187 It was exhaustion. That's all. 873 00:40:11,252 --> 00:40:14,927 Once we start proceedings, issue subpoenas, everyone'll know. 874 00:40:16,224 --> 00:40:17,430 I'm sorry, Carl. 875 00:40:18,793 --> 00:40:20,830 You trust these people over me? 876 00:40:21,863 --> 00:40:23,035 Huh? 877 00:40:24,966 --> 00:40:28,072 Oh, they finally got to you, didn't they, Adam? 878 00:40:28,136 --> 00:40:31,549 After all these years, you finally caved, huh? 879 00:40:33,107 --> 00:40:37,613 Ah, this thing, this accusation... 880 00:40:37,712 --> 00:40:39,123 Don't you see they've used it before, 881 00:40:39,180 --> 00:40:40,557 the newspapers, the networks... 882 00:40:40,748 --> 00:40:44,594 You've seen the hints, the way Commonwealth tried to smear me. 883 00:40:45,620 --> 00:40:47,930 You know why? Because they were always afraid of me. 884 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:50,464 'Cause of my energy. 885 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,704 It's the way I got things done! 886 00:40:55,963 --> 00:41:01,072 You let them do this, it will never stop. 887 00:41:02,003 --> 00:41:07,681 Once it starts... Starts! It never stops. 888 00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:10,289 And then... It's okay. 889 00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:12,115 And then... It's okay, Daddy. 890 00:41:13,314 --> 00:41:14,418 Adam, 891 00:41:16,217 --> 00:41:20,290 Adam, please, please, please, don't let them do this to me. Please. 892 00:41:23,825 --> 00:41:25,031 Please. 893 00:41:31,699 --> 00:41:33,645 I remember thinking that my step-sister 894 00:41:33,701 --> 00:41:35,305 had some kind of 895 00:41:36,504 --> 00:41:38,006 a demon inside her. 896 00:41:38,973 --> 00:41:40,213 JUDGE SIMONS: A demon? 897 00:41:42,477 --> 00:41:44,616 It had to do with why my dad was an alcoholic. 898 00:41:46,547 --> 00:41:52,259 I had this idea that if I built a fire, I could scare the demon away. 899 00:41:54,355 --> 00:42:00,772 I read in some book that Native Americans use fire to purify the innocent. 900 00:42:02,797 --> 00:42:04,868 I just wanted my dad to stop drinking. 901 00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:09,979 I wanted that more than anything. 902 00:42:11,671 --> 00:42:14,208 Why didn't you tell anyone you set the fire? 903 00:42:16,042 --> 00:42:17,214 I did. 904 00:42:18,412 --> 00:42:20,289 I told my grandfather when I got home. 905 00:42:22,582 --> 00:42:24,584 He told me not to talk about it. 906 00:42:26,152 --> 00:42:28,598 That he'd make sure that I wouldn't get in trouble. 907 00:42:30,423 --> 00:42:31,766 JUDGE SIMONS: Mr. McCoy? 908 00:42:31,825 --> 00:42:32,997 (CLEARING THROAT) 909 00:42:34,561 --> 00:42:36,040 The People are satisfied, Your Honor. 910 00:42:36,696 --> 00:42:38,107 Very well. 911 00:42:39,466 --> 00:42:45,508 Terence Lawlor, you're hereby remanded to a secure facility 912 00:42:46,673 --> 00:42:50,485 to be designated by the Commissioner of the Department of Mental Hygiene 913 00:42:50,977 --> 00:42:54,151 until such time as a panel of doctors has determined 914 00:42:54,247 --> 00:42:57,888 you're no longer a danger to yourself or to society. 915 00:42:58,285 --> 00:42:59,355 We're adjourned. 916 00:42:59,419 --> 00:43:00,557 (GAVEL POUNDS) 917 00:43:24,210 --> 00:43:25,655 Sorry about your friend. 918 00:43:26,446 --> 00:43:31,020 Save your sympathy. We haven't heard the last of him. 919 00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:34,658 Living with that secret all these years, 920 00:43:34,721 --> 00:43:36,860 it must have taken enormous will power. 921 00:43:37,124 --> 00:43:39,229 Yeah. Carl always had that. 922 00:43:39,592 --> 00:43:41,765 Whenever he did something bold, 923 00:43:41,828 --> 00:43:44,536 the Lindsay campaign, take-over bids, 924 00:43:45,799 --> 00:43:51,806 the op-ed pundits would call him crazy, and Carl would just smile. 925 00:43:56,576 --> 00:43:57,919 (CHUCKLES) 71834

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