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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system
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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,
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the police
who investigate crime
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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTERING)
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Hey, so who do you
like in the third?
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Alby's Gal.
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You gotta be kidding.
Her last start...
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She was over-matched.
But I still lost.
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Who told you to bet?
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You did.
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Hey, I just told you
who I liked.
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Sam, Alby's Gal in the third.
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When's the last time
you picked a winner?
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Maryland Princess.
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Get out of here.
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(GUNSHOTS)
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(WOMAN SCREAMING)
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(MACHINE GUN FIRING)
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(ALARM RINGING)
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(PEOPLE SCREAMING)
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MAN 1: Are you all right?
Are you okay?
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MAN 2: Oh, my God, what happened?
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(BLARING CONTINUES)
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It was their scheduled run.
They come twice a day.
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You notice anyone
casing the place?
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No. I was just walking
with them, talking.
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About what?
The third race.
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I gave them a good tip, too.
Alby's Gal. Came in 38 bucks to win.
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They should have bet.
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Thanks.
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All this body armor, and they
forgot the bullet-proof ski mask.
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The other one's on the
way to the hospital.
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Tell me this hump has a wallet.
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"Audentes fortuna juvat"?
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CURTIS:
"Audentes fortuna juvat."
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Yeah. Jesse James and his dead
partner both have the same tattoo,
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an eagle with what?
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"Fortune favors
the brave."
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What'd you get from that guy?
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Along shot. Alby's Gal.
Paid $38 to win.
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He thinks the guards
should have bet.
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I guess it wasn't
their lucky day.
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RODGERS: Male, 45 to 50.
No needle marks.
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Drug panel was clean.
He kept himself in shape.
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Thickened skin on the
index finger of the left hand.
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He could have been a carpenter.
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Hammer kept missing the nail?
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Or a do-it-yourself er.
These scars, from the knee to the hip,
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fragments of something hit him
at fairly high velocity.
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The bird house
he was building blew up?
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Maybe a car accident.
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Or shrapnel. See how
the skin is stretched?
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Old wounds.
20, 30 years.
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What about the tattoo?
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Within the year.
Mid-life crisis.
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Some guys get a Harley,
some get a tattoo.
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(RINGING)
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And what did you get?
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27-year-old boyfriend.
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Good for you, Rodgers.
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SHRIER: MAC-11s. Both of them.
Take a look at the slide mechanism.
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The releases are filed down.
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It's been modified
from semi to full auto.
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Yeah. Our do-it-yourself er
isn't just a carpenter.
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Modifications like that
aren't hard,
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if you know what you're doing.
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What about the bullet that
killed the guard? Wells?
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Didn't come from these guns.
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The guy that got away?
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The residue in the casings
indicates that all three guns
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used the same
kind of ammunition.
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Centerfire.
American-made, most likely.
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From the proportions of lead,
barium, and antimony,
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I'd say a non-standard mix.
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Extra kick. Something
they cooked up at home?
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Sure, depending on the home.
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Yeah, but not something
you'd find in Martha Stewart.
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The good news is, the second
guard's gonna make it.
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And the perp in the hospital?
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John Doe's still unconscious.
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But Latent rolled
his prints and the DOA's.
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And the third guy
disappeared into thin air.
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The guy in the red windbreaker.
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Not just red.
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Witnesses from the NYB,
from the street,
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we got fire-engine red,
cherry red.
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Crimson.
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So our fugitive's
windbreaker's noticeable.
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Everyone's looking at the windbreaker.
They don't see anything else.
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Prints taken off the DOA
and the one in a coma.
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Matthew Brant, the DOA,
and our Mr. Doe is Greg Kubie.
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Both guys are from
the suburbs, Hastings.
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Criminal records?
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Not a traffic ticket between
them, Brant was a vet.
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Kubie's a cop.
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Yeah. Hastings PD.
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It's him.
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(SNIFFLES)
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I know this is hard.
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Was your husband
having money problems?
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Any trouble at work?
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No.
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The third man
we're looking for,
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do you have any idea
who that might be?
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Other wives, how do they react?
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Everyone reacts
in a different...
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Have any of the other wives
called you sadists?
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My husband was a good man.
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Two or three times a week,
at dinnertime...
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Mom.
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...his old students stopped by to
tell him how he changed their lives.
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He was not a criminal.
What right did you have to kill him?
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PHIL: Kay?
(DOOR OPENS)
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Hey, Kay.
Kay, Kay, Kay...
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(SOBBING)
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Easy.
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If you'll excuse me.
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I'm Mrs. Brant's brother,
Phil Christie.
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Your sister's
having a hard time.
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Is that a photo of Matt?
Do you mind?
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(EXHALES)
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It really is him.
It's unbelievable.
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Did you know your
brother-in-law owned a gun?
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That's not unusual up here.
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A MAC-11?
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Do you know a guy
named Greg Kubie?
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Yeah, once or twice a year, he sat
in on a poker game we got going.
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Was your brother-in-law tight with
anyone in particular besides Kubie?
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This is a friendly community.
Matt had a lot of friends.
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Any of them with eagle tattoos?
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(CELL PHONE RINGING)
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Your brother-in-law and Kubie
had the same tattoo.
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It's the first I heard of it.
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Two days ago, I was having
breakfast with him.
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Today, they tell me
he's murdered
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because he's trying
to rob an armored car.
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He wasn't murdered. The guard he was
robbing shot him in self-defense.
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Matt was one of the most
decent men I have ever known.
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I'm gonna go check on my sister.
Excuse me.
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That was Profaci.
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Nothing at Kubie's place except
for three-day-old pizza.
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Brant and Kubie
had the same tattoo.
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You want to give me odds
the third guy has one, too?
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How many tattoo parlors can
there be in a town this size?
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Yeah, 10-12 guys, right, came
in maybe last March, April,
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eagle tattoos
with something in Latin.
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All at the same time?
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Three together.
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Then, a couple of guys three weeks
later ask for the same design,
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the next week, two guys.
Like that.
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You keep a record?
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They came in with a picture,
something from a computer thing.
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Did they tell you what it was for?
A club or a gang?
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It's not my business to ask.
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Here. One of them
paid by check.
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Thomas Robbins.
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The tattoos? A gag.
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A few of us got drunk
one night, made a bet.
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The next morning,
I forgot I had it.
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I get out of bed.
Boy, was my wife pissed.
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Who made the bet?
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Tony Lapella,
AI Goodman, Matt Brant...
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You know Brant well?
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Since high school.
A decent guy.
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History teacher, basketball
coach, active in the church.
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What about Greg Kubie?
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Never met him. I guess he saw the
tattoo on one of my buddies.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Everybody in town's
been talking about it,
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and I don't know
what did or didn't happen,
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but one thing I do know is, Matt
Brant couldn't hold up anyone.
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And the 20 or 30 witnesses?
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(PAGER BEEPING)
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Mind if I use your phone?
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Yeah.
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So, where were you
on Tuesday at 2:00 p.m.?
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A bunch of guys get a tattoo, they
got to be crooks? Is that it?
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Two guys rob an armored car,
they both have the same tattoo,
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we have to take that
into consideration.
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Day before yesterday,
2:00 p.m.,
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I was just finishing
meals-on-wheels.
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Every week,
same time, same day.
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We're not like you guys
in New York.
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Kubie just
regained consciousness.
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If I wanted a lawyer,
I'd hire one.
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But, Mr. Kubie...
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Who have you
talked to about my case?
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No one, but I still
think it's important...
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Get out.
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These are detectives.
I'd advise you...
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KUBIE: Get the hell out!
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You can get out, too.
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Why don't we just...
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I have the right
to remain silent.
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Officer Kubie...
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Anything I say can be used
against me in a court of law.
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Look, I got nothing
to say to you.
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(SIGHS)
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Cops. What a pain.
He's not gonna roll easy.
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Hey, that tattoo artist,
she said they came in
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with a picture
printed from a computer.
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I type in what we're looking
for, eagle graphics
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and the motto
"Audentes fortuna juvat."
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The search engine
does the rest.
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If it's anywhere on the
Internet, we'll get a hit.
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One of these days,
you'll have to teach me
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how to play solitaire
on that thing.
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(COMPUTER BEEPS)
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Bingo. This shows us
where to find it.
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Let's surf the Net.
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CURTIS: The New Sons of Liberty homepage.
It's a militia.
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Maybe Jesse James and his pals
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were trying to
finance a revolution.
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What you're saying is,
I've got this tattoo,
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it means I belong to this group,
the New Sons of Liberty?
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Do you?
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How about you, Detective?
Are you active in politics?
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How about
answering my question?
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I figure you for
a disappointed Democrat,
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or maybe
a disappointed Republican?
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You're disappointed
in something.
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BRISCOE: it's a nice computer
you got there.
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Is that where you keep
your virtual clubhouse?
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You thinking of dropping in?
Maybe signing up?
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Depends on the dues.
Cops get a special rate?
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"Congress shall make no law
abridging the freedom of speech
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"or the right of
the people to assemble,
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"and to petition the government
for a redress of grievances."
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I don't have to tell you
anything about my politics.
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CURTIS: "What about Waco?
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"The Feds pumped the Davidian
compound full of CS,
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"which is highly flammable, and then started
the fire which killed women and kids."
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BRISCOE: The FBI infrared
surveillance tape made at Waco
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shows flashes
coming from the FBI forces
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that could have been
incendiary fire.
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It's 3:00 in the morning.
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That's when they
come out of the woodwork.
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"it was a show of force
to scare off anyone
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"who wants to
fight Big Brother.
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"We've got to learn
how to defend ourselves."
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I'm ready. Do you know any Web
sites where I can find out more?
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What are you doing?
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(GRUNTS)
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I'm looking for
the black helicopters.
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00:12:27,116 --> 00:12:28,791
They don't come
near urban centers.
248
00:12:30,322 --> 00:12:31,495
(COMPUTER BEEPS)
249
00:12:31,691 --> 00:12:32,966
Lennie, we're in.
250
00:12:36,567 --> 00:12:38,071
You got this from a chat room?
251
00:12:38,137 --> 00:12:39,879
A New Sons
of Liberty sub-site.
252
00:12:39,940 --> 00:12:41,614
Which we found
through a chat room.
253
00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:45,216
This tells you how to modify a
semi-automatic weapon to full auto
254
00:12:45,283 --> 00:12:47,925
in the same way the guns used
in the robbery were modified.
255
00:12:48,722 --> 00:12:51,296
Are we sure one of the New
Sons of Liberty posted it?
256
00:12:51,394 --> 00:12:53,933
No, but it's a connection.
257
00:12:54,834 --> 00:12:55,835
It's a stretch.
258
00:12:55,969 --> 00:12:58,008
Your Honor, if I publish
a magazine article
259
00:12:58,073 --> 00:13:00,282
by an anonymous author
on how to make a bomb...
260
00:13:00,344 --> 00:13:01,688
You're gonna protect
your anonymous author.
261
00:13:01,746 --> 00:13:04,160
But if that article
advocates using that bomb...
262
00:13:04,217 --> 00:13:06,996
Can I subpoena your notes to find
out the identity of the author?
263
00:13:07,958 --> 00:13:09,233
We're on very
murky ground here.
264
00:13:09,327 --> 00:13:11,330
This is speech protected
by the First Amendment.
265
00:13:11,397 --> 00:13:13,379
With these instructions,
the New Sons of Liberty
266
00:13:13,434 --> 00:13:15,939
advocate illegal use
of automatic weapons.
267
00:13:16,072 --> 00:13:20,024
It's no longer free speech, it's a verbal act.
An illegal act.
268
00:13:21,116 --> 00:13:23,792
I don't know.
I don't like this.
269
00:13:26,091 --> 00:13:29,131
My daughter just had a baby.
A girl. Two weeks ago.
270
00:13:29,196 --> 00:13:31,405
I want her to have
the same freedoms I've had.
271
00:13:31,601 --> 00:13:33,810
And if she becomes
an armored car guard?
272
00:13:37,445 --> 00:13:39,051
Give me the paper.
273
00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:42,925
I figured you'd be back.
274
00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:44,060
With a warrant?
275
00:13:45,226 --> 00:13:49,371
I was going to say
with stormtroopers.
276
00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:51,310
Look, why don't you
make it easy on all of us
277
00:13:51,371 --> 00:13:53,546
and just give us a list
of the New Sons of Liberty?
278
00:13:55,344 --> 00:13:57,019
Am I under arrest?
No.
279
00:14:03,059 --> 00:14:05,905
Lock up when you're done.
280
00:14:05,964 --> 00:14:07,273
Keep an eye on him.
281
00:14:11,241 --> 00:14:14,053
The New Sons of Liberty membership list.
Twenty in all.
282
00:14:14,513 --> 00:14:16,119
A nice round number.
283
00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:17,889
Not enough to
start a revolution.
284
00:14:18,086 --> 00:14:19,726
More than enough
to rob an armored car.
285
00:14:19,823 --> 00:14:22,169
We need search warrants for
their homes and workplaces
286
00:14:22,228 --> 00:14:24,072
to be executed simultaneously.
287
00:14:24,131 --> 00:14:25,509
6:00 a.m.
288
00:14:25,566 --> 00:14:26,774
A big show of force.
289
00:14:27,737 --> 00:14:29,184
Will the department
back you up on this?
290
00:14:29,241 --> 00:14:30,414
I'll get the money.
291
00:14:31,578 --> 00:14:33,115
Then, I'll get the warrants.
292
00:14:42,632 --> 00:14:45,877
What are you looking for?
My son is only 17!
293
00:14:45,938 --> 00:14:48,386
The New Sons of Liberty
don't have an age limit.
294
00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:52,485
Read the warrant. If you have any
questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
295
00:14:55,556 --> 00:14:58,004
COP: Why don't you check out
that cabinet over there.
296
00:15:10,182 --> 00:15:11,958
Hey, Sergeant.
Yes, sir?
297
00:15:12,152 --> 00:15:13,633
Open this up.
298
00:15:18,264 --> 00:15:19,972
We hit the mother lode
in the crawl space.
299
00:15:20,033 --> 00:15:23,882
"A well-regulated militia being necessary
to the security of a free state,
300
00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,720
"the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed."
301
00:15:28,782 --> 00:15:32,426
Look at this, full autos,
AK-47s, a couple of MAS .223s,
302
00:15:32,490 --> 00:15:34,801
a bunch of M16s, boxes of ammo.
303
00:15:35,161 --> 00:15:37,541
Yeah. Enough guns to
take over Staten Island.
304
00:15:37,633 --> 00:15:39,545
Take a picture and send
it to Charlton Heston.
305
00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:42,243
Pack this stuff up.
Take everybody downtown.
306
00:15:42,441 --> 00:15:43,887
Okay. Let's go now.
307
00:15:44,111 --> 00:15:50,294
Cray, Lewis, March 21, 1965.
Private, New Sons of Liberty, 016.
308
00:15:50,355 --> 00:15:54,398
Okay, Mr. Cray, Lewis.
We're gonna need to know your whereabouts
309
00:15:54,463 --> 00:15:57,105
on the afternoon
of Tuesday, August Sth.
310
00:15:57,569 --> 00:16:00,017
Cray, Lewis.
March 21st...
311
00:16:00,241 --> 00:16:03,748
1951. Sergeant,
New Sons of Liberty, 004.
312
00:16:04,281 --> 00:16:07,493
004? What are you,
James Bond minus three?
313
00:16:07,854 --> 00:16:09,927
Robbins, Thomas.
October 15th...
314
00:16:09,992 --> 00:16:13,499
1980. Private,
New Sons of Liberty, 018.
315
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,112
Listen up, tin soldier,
this is no game.
316
00:16:18,774 --> 00:16:21,086
Felony murder means
a needle in the arm,
317
00:16:21,145 --> 00:16:25,962
so if you don't want to be the
sucker on the slab, wise up.
318
00:16:26,456 --> 00:16:30,737
Brant, Matthew Jr.
December 18th, 1980. Private...
319
00:16:30,796 --> 00:16:34,474
Automatic weapons,
munitions, body armor.
320
00:16:34,536 --> 00:16:39,513
Is that what the robbery was
for, more guns? Bigger guns?
321
00:16:39,813 --> 00:16:43,093
Christie, Philip.
August 4th, 1962.
322
00:16:43,153 --> 00:16:46,797
Major,
New Sons of Liberty, 002.
323
00:16:47,995 --> 00:16:49,339
LT, you have a call.
324
00:16:51,067 --> 00:16:53,572
Make sure
the Major is comfortable.
325
00:16:59,817 --> 00:17:03,164
So far I've got calls
from the ATF, the FBI,
326
00:17:03,222 --> 00:17:05,534
the whole alphabet soup down
in Washington.
327
00:17:06,162 --> 00:17:07,506
Let them take a number.
328
00:17:07,564 --> 00:17:10,376
It's our case, New York City.
They have no jurisdiction.
329
00:17:10,503 --> 00:17:12,415
They took jurisdiction in Waco.
330
00:17:12,807 --> 00:17:13,809
JACK: The murder weapon?
331
00:17:14,377 --> 00:17:15,789
VAN BUREN:
Not among the ones we found.
332
00:17:15,946 --> 00:17:17,985
ROSS: They're smart.
Probably tossed it in the Hudson.
333
00:17:18,184 --> 00:17:21,065
If it's any consolation, we have
the militia members' prints
334
00:17:21,122 --> 00:17:22,227
all over the guns.
335
00:17:22,792 --> 00:17:24,500
But no connection
to the murder.
336
00:17:26,099 --> 00:17:29,275
So after all that, we charge
them with simple gun possession.
337
00:17:29,772 --> 00:17:34,246
They post bail. We look like
fascists or idiots, take your pick.
338
00:17:34,313 --> 00:17:35,521
(TELEPHONE RINGING)
339
00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:39,327
McCoy. It's for you.
340
00:17:40,892 --> 00:17:42,236
Yeah?
341
00:17:45,634 --> 00:17:47,114
Thanks for calling.
342
00:17:47,872 --> 00:17:50,548
Ballistics.
The special powder in the ammunition,
343
00:17:50,610 --> 00:17:52,113
the home-load
used in the robbery,
344
00:17:52,179 --> 00:17:54,822
they found it in the arsenal
seized in Christie's house.
345
00:17:58,056 --> 00:18:00,197
But we don't have
the murder weapon.
346
00:18:01,831 --> 00:18:02,832
(EXHALES)
347
00:18:06,071 --> 00:18:07,745
The hell with it.
348
00:18:07,808 --> 00:18:10,654
Conspiracy to commit murder
and robbery. Charge them all.
349
00:18:14,459 --> 00:18:17,409
"Docket number 57643,
350
00:18:17,465 --> 00:18:20,380
"the People v.
Philip Christie, Thomas Robbins, et al.
351
00:18:20,670 --> 00:18:23,347
"Murder in the First Degree, Attempted
Murder in the First Degree,
352
00:18:23,476 --> 00:18:24,649
"Conspiracy in
the First Degree,
353
00:18:24,712 --> 00:18:26,659
"Attempted Grand Larceny
in the First Degree."
354
00:18:26,781 --> 00:18:28,956
Ms. Mandel,
how do they plead?
355
00:18:29,052 --> 00:18:31,056
PHIL: Your Honor,
as ranking officer
356
00:18:31,123 --> 00:18:34,972
my co-defendants have chosen
me to act as our own counsel.
357
00:18:35,063 --> 00:18:36,236
Are you a lawyer?
358
00:18:36,332 --> 00:18:39,475
I've worked as a bailiff.
I know about your rules and procedures.
359
00:18:39,538 --> 00:18:41,577
You file the motion,
the court will consider it.
360
00:18:41,643 --> 00:18:42,782
Now enter a plea.
361
00:18:42,845 --> 00:18:46,625
Your Honor, for all defendants
on all charges, not guilty.
362
00:18:47,052 --> 00:18:48,692
Your Honor,
the People request remand.
363
00:18:48,756 --> 00:18:51,204
Your Honor, we move
that all charges be dismissed
364
00:18:51,427 --> 00:18:54,205
on the grounds that
we are prisoners of war
365
00:18:54,265 --> 00:18:56,076
under the terms of
the Geneva Convention.
366
00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:57,309
What?
367
00:18:57,973 --> 00:19:01,856
Mr. Christie, this is
a civilian criminal court.
368
00:19:01,913 --> 00:19:03,257
I have no authority
to rule on your motion.
369
00:19:03,316 --> 00:19:04,489
PHIL: You do,
370
00:19:04,551 --> 00:19:07,967
Your Honor.
That flag has fringes on it,
371
00:19:08,091 --> 00:19:10,334
which means it is
a military flag.
372
00:19:10,395 --> 00:19:12,900
Which means this court
is a military tribunal.
373
00:19:13,434 --> 00:19:17,716
You must recognize us as prisoners
of war exempt from trial.
374
00:19:17,775 --> 00:19:18,777
Our motion...
375
00:19:18,844 --> 00:19:20,917
Mr. Christie, I don't care
how many fringes,
376
00:19:20,982 --> 00:19:23,020
bells and whistles
are on this flag,
377
00:19:23,252 --> 00:19:25,962
this is a civilian
criminal court. Got it?
378
00:19:26,859 --> 00:19:30,309
Bail is set at $1 million for
each defendant. Next case.
379
00:19:30,366 --> 00:19:31,505
(GAVEL POUNDS)
380
00:19:31,568 --> 00:19:34,244
Prisoners of war?
What's he talking about?
381
00:19:34,773 --> 00:19:37,552
The New Sons of Liberty believe they're
at war with the US Government.
382
00:19:37,612 --> 00:19:40,493
And Son of Sam got his
marching orders from a dog.
383
00:19:40,617 --> 00:19:41,619
It's nonsense.
384
00:19:41,686 --> 00:19:44,396
Have you read their manifesto?
385
00:19:44,457 --> 00:19:46,132
"For the sake of global trade,
386
00:19:46,194 --> 00:19:49,940
"low wages and high profits, the US
Government has mortgaged its sovereignty
387
00:19:50,001 --> 00:19:53,884
"to global interests, and has endowed
the FBI, the ATF, and the CIA
388
00:19:53,941 --> 00:19:56,982
"with extraordinary powers to
enforce this new world order."
389
00:19:57,248 --> 00:19:58,489
You could make a case for that.
390
00:19:58,750 --> 00:20:00,959
Have you started wearing
fatigues under your clothes?
391
00:20:01,188 --> 00:20:03,636
Jack, these are not religious
fanatics living on a compound.
392
00:20:03,693 --> 00:20:05,173
They're articulate...
Misguided...
393
00:20:05,296 --> 00:20:08,245
Definitely, but don't underestimate them.
They've got lots of support.
394
00:20:08,334 --> 00:20:11,181
They've already raised six of
the $20 million they need,
395
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,447
from every state in the union,
396
00:20:12,509 --> 00:20:14,548
not one contribution over $500.
397
00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:17,254
And who was this guard they killed?
A redcoat?
398
00:20:18,053 --> 00:20:19,761
You need to prove
there was a conspiracy.
399
00:20:20,658 --> 00:20:24,268
Seventy rounds fired, two dead.
No problem with the overt act.
400
00:20:24,598 --> 00:20:26,841
And your proof of the agreement
to commit the robbery?
401
00:20:26,902 --> 00:20:28,541
So far no one's rolled on that.
402
00:20:28,605 --> 00:20:30,348
The agreement can be inferred
403
00:20:30,409 --> 00:20:32,482
from membership
in the New Sons of Liberty.
404
00:20:32,847 --> 00:20:34,054
ROSS:
Guilt by association?
405
00:20:34,116 --> 00:20:37,726
If it's an association dedicated
to murder and mayhem, why not?
406
00:20:44,335 --> 00:20:46,373
Now I have to
take him seriously.
407
00:20:47,707 --> 00:20:50,212
Christie got his motion
in front of Judge Scarletti.
408
00:20:51,147 --> 00:20:54,427
Just be sure we don't have to go
to The Hague to try this case.
409
00:20:55,021 --> 00:20:56,091
Ha!
410
00:20:56,290 --> 00:21:00,070
The Geneva Convention
defines prisoners of war
411
00:21:00,130 --> 00:21:03,546
as "persons who have fallen
into the power of the enemy."
412
00:21:03,937 --> 00:21:05,679
The enemy being
the District Attorney?
413
00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:07,653
And any office or
branch of any government
414
00:21:07,710 --> 00:21:10,249
which is not constituted
of and by the people.
415
00:21:10,583 --> 00:21:12,997
Your Honor, how long are we
going to humor this man?
416
00:21:13,388 --> 00:21:15,961
On its face, this is
a patently absurd motion.
417
00:21:16,092 --> 00:21:18,301
Mr. McCoy, please.
418
00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:21,604
Go on, Mr. Christie.
419
00:21:22,370 --> 00:21:25,513
Under the convention,
such prisoners of war
420
00:21:25,577 --> 00:21:28,219
include the armed forces
of a party to a conflict,
421
00:21:28,281 --> 00:21:31,163
as well as members of
militia or volunteer corps,
422
00:21:31,221 --> 00:21:34,227
including members of an
organized resistance movement.
423
00:21:34,292 --> 00:21:36,501
Your Honor, the convention
protects combatants,
424
00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:37,941
not common criminals.
425
00:21:38,367 --> 00:21:41,179
It requires the existence
of an open, armed conflict.
426
00:21:41,272 --> 00:21:43,481
Lexington, Concord,
Bunker Hill,
427
00:21:43,543 --> 00:21:45,957
the Revolutionary War
was fought for months
428
00:21:46,014 --> 00:21:48,087
before hostilities
were officially declared.
429
00:21:48,151 --> 00:21:49,722
JACK: They didn't attack
an Army base.
430
00:21:49,787 --> 00:21:52,201
They robbed a New York
State Betting Office.
431
00:21:52,426 --> 00:21:53,804
At best, they're terrorists.
432
00:21:53,862 --> 00:21:56,902
Mr. Christie's so-called army
amounts to 20-odd hoodlums.
433
00:21:56,967 --> 00:21:58,471
Twenty? 1,000? 10,000?
434
00:21:58,838 --> 00:22:00,409
How many have to
believe what I believe
435
00:22:00,474 --> 00:22:02,149
before you recognize
my right to say,
436
00:22:02,211 --> 00:22:05,251
"This is wrong,
this must be changed"?
437
00:22:05,917 --> 00:22:09,129
Mr. Christie, this isn't
a First Amendment issue.
438
00:22:10,091 --> 00:22:12,266
Your motion has
been tried in the past
439
00:22:12,329 --> 00:22:14,834
by the Black Panthers
and by other groups.
440
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:19,643
Granting it would give license
to any criminal organization
441
00:22:19,809 --> 00:22:22,349
to circumvent
the criminal justice system
442
00:22:22,415 --> 00:22:27,300
by declaring themselves at war with
the government. Motion denied.
443
00:22:28,058 --> 00:22:31,565
As to your motion to act as
your own counsel, it's granted.
444
00:22:31,899 --> 00:22:37,182
But I want Ms. Mandel to
serve as your legal adviser.
445
00:22:38,711 --> 00:22:41,786
Now, we're going to trial.
446
00:22:45,490 --> 00:22:48,473
Did you compare the gunpowder found in Mr.
Christie's basement
447
00:22:48,563 --> 00:22:50,009
to that found at
the crime scene?
448
00:22:50,065 --> 00:22:51,204
Yes, sir.
449
00:22:51,468 --> 00:22:52,641
And what did you find?
450
00:22:52,737 --> 00:22:54,274
"We hold these truths
to be self-evident..."
451
00:22:54,339 --> 00:22:55,911
JUDGE SCARLETTI: Silence! "...
that all men are created equal."
452
00:22:55,976 --> 00:22:57,320
Silence in the court!
453
00:22:57,379 --> 00:22:58,518
ROBBINS: "That they are
endowed by their creator..."
454
00:22:58,581 --> 00:22:59,652
Silence in the court!
455
00:22:59,716 --> 00:23:01,196
"...with certain
unalienable rights..."
456
00:23:01,252 --> 00:23:02,664
JUDGE SCARLETTI: Bailiff,
please remove the defendant.
457
00:23:02,721 --> 00:23:03,928
(GAVEL POUNDING)
Order in the court.
458
00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:05,163
ROBBINS: "...that among
these are life, liberty,
459
00:23:05,227 --> 00:23:07,139
"and the pursuit of happiness.
460
00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:11,512
"That to secure these rights governments
are instituted among men..."
461
00:23:11,905 --> 00:23:14,410
Your Honor,
I object to this removal.
462
00:23:14,844 --> 00:23:16,222
Overruled.
463
00:23:16,547 --> 00:23:18,620
We will make provisions
for the defendant
464
00:23:18,684 --> 00:23:20,687
to observe the
procedures of this court
465
00:23:21,022 --> 00:23:23,300
through closed-circuit television.
466
00:23:23,427 --> 00:23:25,739
You may sit down,
Mr. Christie.
467
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,284
Mr. McCoy,
you may continue.
468
00:23:36,551 --> 00:23:40,001
Did you compare the gunpowder found in Mr.
Christie's basement
469
00:23:40,891 --> 00:23:43,032
to the gunpowder
at the murder scene?
470
00:23:43,095 --> 00:23:46,636
Yes, sir. Both had the same
distinctive chemical composition.
471
00:23:46,869 --> 00:23:49,078
In my opinion, they were
from the same batch.
472
00:23:52,346 --> 00:23:53,382
Thank you.
473
00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:54,450
Do you pay taxes?
474
00:23:54,851 --> 00:23:56,388
JACK: Objection.
Sustained.
475
00:23:57,121 --> 00:23:59,262
Have you ever
read the Constitution
476
00:23:59,326 --> 00:24:00,704
of the United States
of America?
477
00:24:00,761 --> 00:24:02,469
Objection.
Sustained.
478
00:24:04,602 --> 00:24:05,946
(EXCLAIMS)
479
00:24:08,643 --> 00:24:09,884
No more questions.
480
00:24:15,255 --> 00:24:19,104
Yeah, I carried a gun.
But I never thought I'd have to shoot anyone.
481
00:24:19,630 --> 00:24:20,701
It was crazy.
Suddenly...
482
00:24:20,765 --> 00:24:21,870
KUBIE: "That whenever
any form of government..."
483
00:24:21,934 --> 00:24:23,005
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Order in the court!
484
00:24:23,069 --> 00:24:24,708
"...becomes destructive of these ends...
" I warned you!
485
00:24:24,772 --> 00:24:26,150
"...it is the right of
the people to alter..."
486
00:24:26,208 --> 00:24:27,552
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Bailiff, remove the defendant!
487
00:24:27,610 --> 00:24:29,387
"...or to abolish it and to..."
Get him out of my court.
488
00:24:29,447 --> 00:24:30,984
"...institute new government
laying its foundation..."
489
00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:32,155
You hear me?
"...on such principles
490
00:24:32,219 --> 00:24:34,930
"and organizing its powers
in such form..."
491
00:24:34,991 --> 00:24:36,232
(GAVEL POUNDING)
492
00:24:36,494 --> 00:24:38,304
"Governments are
instituted among men..."
493
00:24:38,363 --> 00:24:39,901
(KUBIE CONTINUES YELLING)
494
00:24:43,172 --> 00:24:44,778
You were saying, Mr. Parent?
495
00:24:46,312 --> 00:24:48,658
Suddenly,
everybody was shooting.
496
00:24:50,853 --> 00:24:52,857
What do you know about
the new world order?
497
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,804
Before this trial,
I never heard of it.
498
00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,342
JACK: Do you work for it?
499
00:24:57,633 --> 00:24:58,772
PARENT: No, sir.
500
00:24:58,835 --> 00:25:01,113
What branch of the
government do you work for?
501
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,718
No branch. I work for the Stevens
Securities Transfer Company.
502
00:25:06,415 --> 00:25:07,759
Thank you.
503
00:25:13,362 --> 00:25:17,643
Mr. Parent, who owns the Stevens
Securities Transfer Company?
504
00:25:18,304 --> 00:25:19,340
I don't know.
505
00:25:19,406 --> 00:25:20,408
Who's on the board?
506
00:25:22,244 --> 00:25:23,246
I don't know.
507
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,060
Could they be working for
a multinational corporation...
508
00:25:26,118 --> 00:25:27,154
Objection.
509
00:25:27,220 --> 00:25:28,222
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Sustained.
510
00:25:28,690 --> 00:25:29,829
PHIL: How about
New York Bets?
511
00:25:29,892 --> 00:25:30,927
What? Who owns it?
512
00:25:32,397 --> 00:25:34,275
The State, I guess.
New York State?
513
00:25:35,268 --> 00:25:36,270
Yeah.
514
00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:38,978
Do you know who actually
runs New York Bets?
515
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:41,415
No.
516
00:25:41,479 --> 00:25:43,051
And you didn't vote
for any of them, did you?
517
00:25:43,116 --> 00:25:44,653
Objection.
JUDGE SCARLETTI: Sustained.
518
00:25:44,952 --> 00:25:48,927
Mr. Christie, if you have no relevant
questions, you may sit down.
519
00:25:49,027 --> 00:25:51,201
I have questions
the jury may find relevant.
520
00:25:52,299 --> 00:25:56,080
Your cross-examination is over.
The witness is excused.
521
00:26:06,692 --> 00:26:09,403
KAY: They weren't called
the New Sons of Liberty then.
522
00:26:10,934 --> 00:26:14,350
A few years ago, my brother,
Phil, and my husband
523
00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,251
used to sit around
the kitchen table
524
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:20,626
and talk about how the FBI shot that
woman and her baby at Ruby Ridge,
525
00:26:21,153 --> 00:26:23,635
about how no one in the
government cared about anything
526
00:26:23,691 --> 00:26:25,433
but the special interests.
527
00:26:25,494 --> 00:26:26,940
Special interests?
528
00:26:27,096 --> 00:26:30,569
If you're rich or poor, the
government pays attention.
529
00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:34,478
But the average family in
America doesn't stand a chance.
530
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:36,853
Like what happened
with my brother
531
00:26:36,915 --> 00:26:39,921
when the government wouldn't let
him see his kids after the divorce
532
00:26:39,987 --> 00:26:42,435
and they gave custody
to his wife.
533
00:26:43,527 --> 00:26:48,071
At any time, did your husband discuss
plans for a robbery with you?
534
00:26:49,504 --> 00:26:55,619
The more involved Matt got with
the group, the angrier he got.
535
00:26:56,517 --> 00:26:59,797
And it wasn't like he was angry
at anything in particular.
536
00:26:59,857 --> 00:27:02,840
It was almost like
he was angry at our life,
537
00:27:03,897 --> 00:27:06,277
at what we had,
at what we didn't have.
538
00:27:07,805 --> 00:27:10,310
After a while, I could
hardly talk to him anymore.
539
00:27:11,579 --> 00:27:16,657
Mrs. Brant, did he ever
talk about a robbery with you?
540
00:27:18,324 --> 00:27:22,674
Matt woke me up one night, after
Phil and the others had been there,
541
00:27:22,732 --> 00:27:28,050
and he told me
they had planned a robbery,
542
00:27:29,612 --> 00:27:33,119
and that he had volunteered
for the mission,
543
00:27:33,185 --> 00:27:34,859
and there was
some danger involved,
544
00:27:34,921 --> 00:27:37,460
and that if
anything happened to him,
545
00:27:38,929 --> 00:27:41,775
he wanted me to know
that he did it for my sake
546
00:27:42,869 --> 00:27:46,376
and for Matt Jr.,
for the country.
547
00:27:47,411 --> 00:27:49,221
JACK: And what did you say?
548
00:27:50,283 --> 00:27:52,526
I told him I didn't understand.
549
00:27:54,424 --> 00:27:55,961
I didn't understand.
550
00:27:56,995 --> 00:27:59,033
The government
wasn't bothering us.
551
00:27:59,099 --> 00:28:01,911
I didn't understand why
they had to commit a crime.
552
00:28:06,746 --> 00:28:08,090
Thank you.
553
00:28:24,679 --> 00:28:26,057
Mrs. Brant,
554
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:31,097
was your decision to testify
coerced in any way?
555
00:28:31,592 --> 00:28:32,628
Objection.
556
00:28:32,694 --> 00:28:33,901
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Sustained.
557
00:28:35,666 --> 00:28:37,375
Did Mr. McCoy
offer you anything
558
00:28:37,436 --> 00:28:39,110
in exchange for your testimony?
559
00:28:39,741 --> 00:28:40,811
Objection.
560
00:28:40,875 --> 00:28:42,413
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Overruled.
561
00:28:42,779 --> 00:28:44,658
Answer the question,
Mrs. Brant.
562
00:28:49,124 --> 00:28:54,135
Mr. McCoy said if I testify,
he'd sever my son's case
563
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,680
and try him on reduced charges.
564
00:28:55,736 --> 00:28:58,742
No! No, Mom!
You shouldn't have done this!
565
00:28:58,876 --> 00:29:00,550
Turning mother and son
against each other.
566
00:29:00,612 --> 00:29:01,717
Order in the court!
567
00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:02,783
Mr. Christie,
please sit down.
568
00:29:02,849 --> 00:29:03,885
Do you think
the American people
569
00:29:03,951 --> 00:29:05,454
are gonna stand by and watch
as you tear a family apart?
570
00:29:05,521 --> 00:29:07,434
JUDGE SCARLETTI: Bailiff, will
you sit the defendant back down?
571
00:29:07,491 --> 00:29:09,529
Remove those defendants!
572
00:29:09,595 --> 00:29:10,904
Remove those defendants!
573
00:29:10,964 --> 00:29:12,000
No!
574
00:29:12,133 --> 00:29:13,442
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Remove those defendants!
575
00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:15,708
(INDISTINCT CHATTERING)
576
00:29:22,685 --> 00:29:24,530
(CLAMORING CONTINUES)
577
00:29:27,419 --> 00:29:30,403
Christie's master plan.
Look at his witness list.
578
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:33,668
The directors of the CIA,
the NSA, the President.
579
00:29:33,932 --> 00:29:36,642
The judge excludes them,
Christie yells cover-up.
580
00:29:36,803 --> 00:29:38,478
When you have no case...
JACK: Right.
581
00:29:40,009 --> 00:29:42,514
It leaves him
with just one witness,
582
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:43,650
himself.
583
00:29:43,716 --> 00:29:45,128
(TELEPHONE RINGING)
584
00:29:46,187 --> 00:29:47,394
(SIGHS)
585
00:29:48,792 --> 00:29:50,774
Ross. Uh-huh.
586
00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:54,041
We'll be right over.
587
00:29:55,438 --> 00:29:57,077
That was
Judge Scarletti's clerk.
588
00:29:57,140 --> 00:29:58,746
There's a problem
with one of the jurors.
589
00:29:58,811 --> 00:29:59,950
(SCOFFS)
590
00:30:03,318 --> 00:30:04,924
Mr. Shelby, it has
come to my attention
591
00:30:04,989 --> 00:30:08,940
that you passed some reading
material on to another juror.
592
00:30:09,464 --> 00:30:11,103
Yes, sir.
To Bob Clark.
593
00:30:11,902 --> 00:30:13,541
It's a newspaper.
594
00:30:13,604 --> 00:30:15,813
Is this it?
The Crisis.
595
00:30:15,875 --> 00:30:20,089
Yes, sir. It's named after the
newspaper published in 1776.
596
00:30:20,484 --> 00:30:23,524
How would you characterize
this newspaper?
597
00:30:26,962 --> 00:30:31,108
"Our new army at both ends of the
continent is recruiting fast,
598
00:30:31,337 --> 00:30:36,290
"and we shall be able to open the
next campaign with 60,000 men."
599
00:30:37,915 --> 00:30:39,328
isn't this inflammatory?
600
00:30:40,554 --> 00:30:43,970
It's a quote. From Thomas Paine,
one of the founding fathers.
601
00:30:44,695 --> 00:30:47,268
In the voir dire,
you were asked
602
00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:48,642
if you had any opinions
603
00:30:48,702 --> 00:30:52,381
which might prevent you from
judging this case objectively.
604
00:30:53,578 --> 00:30:55,388
I believe I can
judge it objectively.
605
00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:58,489
You told Mr. Clark that you
and some of the other jurors
606
00:30:58,554 --> 00:31:01,036
had made up their minds
to acquit.
607
00:31:03,496 --> 00:31:06,536
You said you wanted
to send a message.
608
00:31:07,871 --> 00:31:10,011
What message
would that be, Mr. Shelby?
609
00:31:11,678 --> 00:31:14,524
In this country, the people and
not the courts are sovereign.
610
00:31:15,218 --> 00:31:16,323
Isn't that right, Your Honor?
611
00:31:18,456 --> 00:31:21,235
Thank you, Mr. Shelby,
you can go.
612
00:31:26,038 --> 00:31:28,316
So, Your Honor, he's dismissed?
613
00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:31,449
Why? He's going to exercise
his right as a citizen
614
00:31:31,547 --> 00:31:33,756
and decide the case
on its merits.
615
00:31:34,018 --> 00:31:36,900
Your Honor, I move you excuse the
entire jury and declare a mistrial.
616
00:31:37,024 --> 00:31:38,265
Because they might acquit?
617
00:31:38,326 --> 00:31:40,934
Because Mr. Shelby is
encouraging them to nullify.
618
00:31:41,031 --> 00:31:44,243
Which is his right
in an illegal trial,
619
00:31:44,604 --> 00:31:46,517
and you've already thrown out
all my co-defendants.
620
00:31:46,608 --> 00:31:48,316
Now you want to
throw out the jury, too?
621
00:31:48,546 --> 00:31:52,292
It's not enough you have the whole
power of government behind you,
622
00:31:52,352 --> 00:31:53,764
you also have to
rig the verdict.
623
00:31:53,822 --> 00:31:55,929
You entered the courtroom with
the presumption of innocence,
624
00:31:55,992 --> 00:31:56,994
just like anyone else.
625
00:31:57,061 --> 00:32:01,012
The rights that I am fighting to
protect are your rights, too.
626
00:32:01,102 --> 00:32:02,981
I can defend my own rights,
Mr. Christie.
627
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:04,110
Please...
628
00:32:04,475 --> 00:32:07,014
We'll replace Mr. Shelby and Mr.
Clark with alternates.
629
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,052
Your Honor.
Gentlemen.
630
00:32:11,254 --> 00:32:13,428
All that Christie needs
is one hold out.
631
00:32:13,491 --> 00:32:15,268
In the world
of public relations,
632
00:32:15,394 --> 00:32:17,205
a hung jury
is as good as an acquittal.
633
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:20,343
If we can knock just
one more juror off,
634
00:32:20,403 --> 00:32:22,885
we exhaust the jury pool,
we get a mistrial.
635
00:32:23,443 --> 00:32:24,787
How do you propose we do that?
636
00:32:25,379 --> 00:32:28,192
I think we should find out everything
we can about the other jurors.
637
00:32:31,457 --> 00:32:33,029
I'll talk to
Briscoe and Curtis.
638
00:32:33,094 --> 00:32:36,806
Shady stuff.
This fellow Christie,
639
00:32:36,867 --> 00:32:38,279
he's really
gotten under your skin.
640
00:32:38,336 --> 00:32:39,338
JACK: He's a fanatic.
641
00:32:39,405 --> 00:32:40,885
Because he believes
what he's saying?
642
00:32:40,941 --> 00:32:44,448
When you first applied for a
job here, we had an argument
643
00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:46,320
about some
anti-war protesters.
644
00:32:46,385 --> 00:32:47,524
Oh, come on, Adam.
645
00:32:47,587 --> 00:32:49,830
They broke into a draft board
646
00:32:49,891 --> 00:32:51,770
and poured blood
over the records,
647
00:32:52,162 --> 00:32:53,267
and you defended them.
648
00:32:54,533 --> 00:32:58,986
You said a bad law sometimes
demands an illegal act.
649
00:32:59,042 --> 00:33:01,718
Nobody got killed.
650
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:04,524
It was a protest and they
took their punishment.
651
00:33:10,964 --> 00:33:16,611
PHIL: I know some of our ideas
sound crazy, or extreme.
652
00:33:17,876 --> 00:33:20,017
I could talk to you about
Ruby Ridge or Waco
653
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,929
or I could tell you how I came
to believe that our government,
654
00:33:23,987 --> 00:33:28,440
a government I was brought up to
love, is a threat to our liberty.
655
00:33:29,731 --> 00:33:32,304
But none of that would
explain what's happened,
656
00:33:32,369 --> 00:33:33,816
why we're on trial here.
657
00:33:35,241 --> 00:33:38,851
The prosecution says we
robbed and murdered.
658
00:33:39,616 --> 00:33:41,756
And that's all
this trial is about.
659
00:33:43,757 --> 00:33:46,433
But let me tell you
how I see it.
660
00:33:49,234 --> 00:33:53,151
Let's say someone
breaks into your house
661
00:33:54,476 --> 00:33:55,956
and they threaten you
and your family...
662
00:33:56,012 --> 00:34:00,192
Your Honor, objection, the defendant
is on the stand as a witness.
663
00:34:00,254 --> 00:34:01,757
This is summation.
Your Honor,
664
00:34:01,823 --> 00:34:03,736
as the counsel for the defense,
665
00:34:03,794 --> 00:34:06,538
I am laying the groundwork
for a line of questioning,
666
00:34:07,267 --> 00:34:10,273
a line of thought that goes
to the heart of my testimony.
667
00:34:10,505 --> 00:34:12,487
I'll give you a little leeway, Mr.
Christie.
668
00:34:12,543 --> 00:34:13,716
Thank you, Your Honor.
669
00:34:15,214 --> 00:34:18,164
So, if you killed someone
670
00:34:18,220 --> 00:34:20,725
who broke into your house
and threatened your family,
671
00:34:20,925 --> 00:34:23,841
most of you would see that
as an act of self-defense.
672
00:34:24,264 --> 00:34:26,906
Now, what if an enemy army
occupies your town,
673
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:29,743
and what if you and your
neighbors decided to resist...
674
00:34:29,808 --> 00:34:30,843
Objection, Your Honor.
675
00:34:30,909 --> 00:34:31,945
Overruled.
676
00:34:32,012 --> 00:34:33,287
Get to the point,
Mr. Christie.
677
00:34:33,348 --> 00:34:34,383
Okay.
678
00:34:34,449 --> 00:34:36,624
So, what if, as part of
the resistance movement,
679
00:34:36,687 --> 00:34:39,967
you robbed somebody
who was collecting taxes.
680
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:42,606
Taxes that would
be used to increase
681
00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:44,168
the enemy control
of your town...
682
00:34:44,235 --> 00:34:45,271
Your Honor!
683
00:34:45,337 --> 00:34:47,147
New York Bets is
a scam to collect taxes...
684
00:34:47,206 --> 00:34:48,311
Objection sustained.
685
00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:49,377
...through
a levy on gambling.
686
00:34:49,444 --> 00:34:51,949
Limit yourself to direct testimony, Mr.
Christie.
687
00:34:52,015 --> 00:34:53,017
Your Honor...
688
00:34:53,084 --> 00:34:54,393
I am not going to
allow it, Mr. Christie.
689
00:34:54,453 --> 00:34:56,298
And if I don't knuckle under,
you'll drag me from court, too!
690
00:34:56,357 --> 00:34:57,701
Don't try my patience!
691
00:34:57,759 --> 00:34:59,638
And then who will
be left to defend us?
692
00:35:06,008 --> 00:35:07,147
That's all.
693
00:35:12,686 --> 00:35:17,731
According to Mrs. Brant's testimony,
the night before the robbery,
694
00:35:19,132 --> 00:35:24,313
you met with Matthew Brant, his
son, Thomas Robbins, Lewis Cray,
695
00:35:24,575 --> 00:35:27,525
and half a dozen others.
Is that true?
696
00:35:28,081 --> 00:35:30,860
Did you study the Bushell case
in law school, Mr. McCoy?
697
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,559
Please answer the question.
698
00:35:32,623 --> 00:35:34,536
1670.
The case established
699
00:35:34,594 --> 00:35:35,699
the right for
juries to nullify.
700
00:35:35,762 --> 00:35:36,833
Answer his question,
Mr. Christie.
701
00:35:36,898 --> 00:35:38,503
I am trying, Your Honor.
702
00:35:38,701 --> 00:35:42,117
The right for juries to protect
defendants by finding them not guilty,
703
00:35:42,241 --> 00:35:44,154
evidence of their guilt
notwithstanding.
704
00:35:44,211 --> 00:35:47,457
A right that goes back in
America to John Peter Zenger,
705
00:35:47,618 --> 00:35:50,294
and had been used by black juries
to acquit black defendants
706
00:35:50,356 --> 00:35:52,201
when they had
been tried unfairly.
707
00:35:52,293 --> 00:35:55,208
Mr. Christie, what did you discuss
that night with your co-defendants?
708
00:35:55,265 --> 00:35:56,974
It is a right used
in anti-war cases
709
00:35:57,035 --> 00:35:59,483
and was defended
almost 25 years ago
710
00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:00,884
in an article published...
711
00:36:00,942 --> 00:36:02,547
JACK: Objection.
Non-responsive.
712
00:36:02,611 --> 00:36:05,754
Published by the NYU
law school entitled,
713
00:36:06,118 --> 00:36:09,261
"Jury Nullification in
the Criminal Justice System"
714
00:36:09,324 --> 00:36:10,633
by Jack McCoy.
715
00:36:10,693 --> 00:36:12,196
JUDGE SCARLETTI:
Sustained, Mr. Christie.
716
00:36:12,262 --> 00:36:13,640
You wrote this.
717
00:36:16,137 --> 00:36:19,348
In many ways, you and I
are alike, Mr. McCoy.
718
00:36:19,409 --> 00:36:22,484
No, we're not.
I don't rob armored cars.
719
00:36:23,584 --> 00:36:24,757
You were the third robber,
weren't you?
720
00:36:26,255 --> 00:36:27,599
You killed Walter Wells.
721
00:36:35,505 --> 00:36:37,885
What's the matter,
Mr. Christie?
722
00:36:39,613 --> 00:36:44,566
If you believe what you did was
justified, why won't you answer?
723
00:36:49,765 --> 00:36:51,871
"No person shall be compelled
in any criminal case
724
00:36:51,936 --> 00:36:53,780
"to be a witness
against himself."
725
00:36:59,349 --> 00:37:01,159
No further questions.
726
00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:03,692
JUDGE SCARLETTI: Mr.
Christie, do you have any other witnesses
727
00:37:03,757 --> 00:37:04,998
or evidence to present?
728
00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:09,109
Since you've excluded all of
my witnesses, no, Your Honor.
729
00:37:10,936 --> 00:37:15,822
The defense, the resistance
to tyranny, rests.
730
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:25,302
I think we've got what we
need to bounce another juror.
731
00:37:25,364 --> 00:37:26,502
Howard Lam m.
732
00:37:26,566 --> 00:37:28,103
The blonde guy
with the glasses.
733
00:37:28,369 --> 00:37:31,353
Late '60s, at Harvard, he was
one of the leaders of the SDS.
734
00:37:31,442 --> 00:37:32,581
A real firebrand.
735
00:37:32,644 --> 00:37:35,217
Implied prejudice
against the government.
736
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:39,361
Kick Lamm off the jury,
you got your mistrial.
737
00:37:40,725 --> 00:37:42,263
Where'd you get
this information?
738
00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:43,840
Police Red Squad records.
739
00:37:43,897 --> 00:37:45,172
The creeps
who took our pictures
740
00:37:45,233 --> 00:37:47,545
during demonstrations
in the '60s?
741
00:37:47,838 --> 00:37:50,286
These files were supposed
to be destroyed years ago.
742
00:37:51,244 --> 00:37:53,783
Governments are like elephants.
They never forget.
743
00:38:06,539 --> 00:38:07,985
We're not gonna do this.
744
00:38:11,983 --> 00:38:16,492
We're not gonna become the
people Christie thinks we are.
745
00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:32,595
"Tyranny, like hell,
is not easily conquered.
746
00:38:34,089 --> 00:38:37,972
"Yet we have this consolation with
us, that the harder the conflict,
747
00:38:38,465 --> 00:38:40,343
"the more glorious
the triumph."
748
00:38:43,006 --> 00:38:45,386
Tom Paine wrote
that in a pamphlet
749
00:38:45,444 --> 00:38:47,824
that helped rally Americans
to the cause of liberty
750
00:38:47,882 --> 00:38:52,391
in those dark days
of December 1776.
751
00:38:53,658 --> 00:38:55,799
We again face dark days.
752
00:38:57,198 --> 00:38:59,977
Our founding forefathers
fashioned a government
753
00:39:00,037 --> 00:39:04,113
based on life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness.
754
00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:10,258
Today, instead of life, we have a
job, we have sometimes two jobs.
755
00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:15,601
Instead of liberty, we have crushing debt.
And happiness?
756
00:39:19,606 --> 00:39:24,491
We work hard, husbands and
wives, 10-12 hours a day.
757
00:39:24,782 --> 00:39:27,561
We work weekends, and at the
end of the week we have less.
758
00:39:27,621 --> 00:39:33,440
We have less real income, less
benefits, less time with our kids.
759
00:39:34,834 --> 00:39:37,476
The American dream used to be,
760
00:39:38,575 --> 00:39:41,285
each generation was better
off than the previous one.
761
00:39:42,582 --> 00:39:44,495
Are you better off
than your parents?
762
00:39:45,554 --> 00:39:48,059
Will your children
be better off than you?
763
00:39:49,194 --> 00:39:53,373
We believe that our government has
been sold to global corporations
764
00:39:53,435 --> 00:39:57,011
that are sucking the blood and
the life out of this country.
765
00:39:57,843 --> 00:40:00,291
It's all right there in the
newspapers, what they're doing.
766
00:40:00,716 --> 00:40:04,758
NAFTA, illegal campaign contributions
by foreign businessmen,
767
00:40:04,823 --> 00:40:06,930
the sale of foreign policy.
768
00:40:07,929 --> 00:40:09,409
These people
don't care about us.
769
00:40:09,465 --> 00:40:10,740
They don't care
about Americans.
770
00:40:10,867 --> 00:40:13,908
They care about
their bottom line.
771
00:40:18,815 --> 00:40:24,668
We are not common criminals. We are...
We are ordinary people like you,
772
00:40:24,726 --> 00:40:28,267
with jobs and mortgages, who are
willing to lay it all on the line
773
00:40:28,333 --> 00:40:30,906
because we are afraid
of losing our freedom.
774
00:40:31,438 --> 00:40:35,891
But today, you have a chance to
tell the government what you think.
775
00:40:36,447 --> 00:40:37,985
Seize that opportunity.
776
00:40:38,651 --> 00:40:41,099
We, the defendants, are not
the only ones on trial here.
777
00:40:41,156 --> 00:40:43,536
You are on trial here.
778
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:48,141
The State tells you
to follow its laws.
779
00:40:48,335 --> 00:40:51,945
But who lends the State its power?
Who can take it back?
780
00:40:53,479 --> 00:40:57,157
The judge? Mr. McCoy? No.
781
00:40:58,021 --> 00:41:03,907
You do. You are the State.
You have the power.
782
00:41:07,572 --> 00:41:09,575
Freedom starts with a no.
783
00:41:10,577 --> 00:41:14,551
Will you turn to the State
and say no?
784
00:41:32,751 --> 00:41:34,698
Okay. Okay.
785
00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:43,977
This country began as an
experiment in freedom.
786
00:41:49,281 --> 00:41:56,262
The foundation of that freedom
is equality before the law.
787
00:41:58,164 --> 00:42:02,708
Everyone, whoever they are,
whatever they may believe,
788
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,747
must be equally accountable.
789
00:42:10,286 --> 00:42:16,298
Mr. Christie hopes you will
ignore the evidence and nullify.
790
00:42:17,032 --> 00:42:19,878
A power, he says,
derives from a higher law.
791
00:42:20,271 --> 00:42:23,346
I agree that such
a higher law exists.
792
00:42:24,546 --> 00:42:30,229
And each of you, as members of
the jury, bound yourselves to it
793
00:42:30,991 --> 00:42:36,070
when you swore, on your conscience,
before God and as a citizen,
794
00:42:36,601 --> 00:42:39,642
that you would decide
this case on the facts.
795
00:42:40,174 --> 00:42:42,213
You are asked
to judge one thing,
796
00:42:43,347 --> 00:42:47,025
were the defendants, whatever their
reasons, whatever their beliefs,
797
00:42:47,254 --> 00:42:52,640
part of a criminal conspiracy
to commit armed robbery
798
00:42:53,565 --> 00:42:55,046
and murder!
799
00:42:58,508 --> 00:43:01,253
These guys did a great
job of memorization.
800
00:43:01,314 --> 00:43:02,953
Too bad they
didn't learn from it.
801
00:43:03,116 --> 00:43:06,362
We all remember that phrase from
the Declaration of Independence
802
00:43:06,423 --> 00:43:09,839
about life, liberty, and
the pursuit of happiness,
803
00:43:09,896 --> 00:43:13,847
the unalienable
rights of everyone.
804
00:43:16,709 --> 00:43:20,421
Notice that life comes first.
805
00:43:22,987 --> 00:43:24,935
You can forget everything
else about this case,
806
00:43:24,991 --> 00:43:27,131
if you remember one thing,
807
00:43:28,597 --> 00:43:33,140
these defendants, these conspirators,
targeted an ordinary citizen,
808
00:43:33,306 --> 00:43:39,751
someone just like yourselves, a guy
with a job and in the private sector,
809
00:43:41,286 --> 00:43:44,668
with bills to pay and
a family to take care of,
810
00:43:45,762 --> 00:43:47,037
and they took his life.
811
00:43:48,968 --> 00:43:51,541
They took his life!
812
00:43:54,044 --> 00:43:57,221
If it's okay for them
to shoot him,
813
00:43:57,283 --> 00:43:58,888
it's okay for them
to shoot anyone,
814
00:43:59,453 --> 00:44:01,867
including any one of you.
815
00:44:05,264 --> 00:44:07,405
Without the law
there can be no freedom,
816
00:44:10,507 --> 00:44:13,251
and without justice
there can be no law.
817
00:44:26,503 --> 00:44:29,281
Your Honor,
we've been out nine days.
818
00:44:29,776 --> 00:44:33,727
We've had 40 ballots.
We're unable to reach a verdict.
819
00:44:38,158 --> 00:44:41,370
Is there any chance you could
agree if you had more time?
820
00:44:43,802 --> 00:44:44,940
No, Your Honor.
821
00:44:50,914 --> 00:44:51,950
(INHALES DEEPLY)
822
00:44:52,016 --> 00:44:53,759
All right.
823
00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:57,862
Ladies and gentlemen, I have no
choice but to declare a mistrial.
824
00:44:58,929 --> 00:45:00,307
Yes!
825
00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:01,971
The jury is dismissed.
826
00:45:02,569 --> 00:45:06,042
ROBBINS: You did it!
See, see, see.
827
00:45:06,810 --> 00:45:08,791
MAN 1: Hey, man.
MAN 2: All right.
828
00:45:13,088 --> 00:45:15,934
Admit it, McCoy.
We won.
829
00:45:16,428 --> 00:45:19,810
You didn't win anything.
The system you want to destroy won.
830
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:22,544
See you back here
in a couple of months.
831
00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:25,088
Enjoy your freedom
while you have it.
832
00:45:28,383 --> 00:45:30,091
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
833
00:45:30,153 --> 00:45:32,101
REPORTER: Mr. Christie,
over here.
834
00:45:32,959 --> 00:45:36,238
If he only knew. You could've
sunk this trial and you didn't.
835
00:45:37,032 --> 00:45:40,642
You played it straight, Jack.
That rates as a moral victory.
836
00:45:41,741 --> 00:45:43,380
It could be a hollow one
837
00:45:44,346 --> 00:45:47,660
if those clowns could find even
one person who'd acquit them.
838
00:45:47,986 --> 00:45:49,490
What does that tell you
about this country?
839
00:45:49,556 --> 00:45:51,868
PHIL: We want to thank you
all for being objective
840
00:45:51,927 --> 00:45:54,169
in covering this trial
and being supportive...
841
00:45:54,370 --> 00:45:55,571
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