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>> Thank you, my friend.

>> Thank you, my friend. >> Pleasure. Take care.

>> Pleasure. Take care.

>> You shouldn't watch scary

movies so close to bedtime.

>> Kate? Kate!

>> Kate? Kate! >> Dad!

>> Dad!

>> You're defending him.

>> You know as well as I do

for good or bad,

everyone deserves a defense.

Mr. Burton will not be in court.

As he's a witness, he cannot

act for the Crown in any way.

>> So he just has to watch?

>> Foyle had a storage unit.

Someone took it on after him.

If something's not turning up,

you need to look for it

somewhere else.

>> Now what did you make

for dinner that night?

>> Spaghetti carbonara?

>> I should have fought him

harder.

>> Jamie, what are you saying?

>> I scratched his head.

>> You scratched him

with your hands?

>> And then I hid.

>> You moved?

>> Forensic team just found

DNA at the cottage.

>> Foyle's?

>> They want to meet.

>> In the shock and trauma of

finding your wife, you look up

at the window and you see a man

whose absence from your life

would be very useful indeed.

But it wasn't that man,

was it, Mr. Burton?

was it, Mr. Burton? You just wanted it to be.

You just wanted it to be.

>> Thanks. Morning.

>> Good morning, Dr. Lambert.

>> Sorry I'm late. Remind me?

>> Low count DNA, Kate Burton.

>> Oh, yes.

>> Straight shot this morning.

They'll try and trip you

on the low count.

Just keep your answers simple

and to the point.

>> Thanks for the tip.

I've only done this

300 or 400 times.

>> Did this analysis prove

conclusively that the DNA

discovered in the cottage

matches that of a particular

individual?

>> It did.

>> Whose DNA did the sample

match?

>> We matched the sample

>> We matched the sample to the DNA of Mr. Liam Foyle.

to the DNA of Mr. Liam Foyle.

We are very stringent

about our quality controls.

We take our job extremely

seriously.

>> Oh, that is very reassuring.

Were you responsible for

analyzing DNA samples

in connection with Crown

versus Foyle last year?

>> I believe so.

>> You believe so.

>> Yes, we were.

>> And in order to do that,

samples of my client's DNA

would have been sent to

and processed by your lab.

Is that correct?

>> Well, yes, that's-

>> Thank you. So my client's

DNA at that time would have

been effectively distributed

throughout that lab like dust

through an old house?

>> My Lord-

>> I take it this is leading

somewhere.

>> I'm just arriving now,

my Lord.

Dr. Lambert, I have a sworn

statement from your laboratory

that confirms a deep clean was

recently performed in all clean

room areas on the 12th

of this month.

You brought the schedule

forward. Why was that?

>> Oh, come on!

>> Mr. Mayfield.

>> Dr. Lambert, if you please?

>> We conduct regular cleaning.

We recently decided to increase

the number of-

>> Why was the schedule

brought forward?

I noticed that your cleaning

schedule is normally enacted

on a clear and regulated basis,

so something must have happened.

>> It was necessary.

>> Are you or are you not

in the process of an internal

investigation into the

viability of contaminants

within the laboratory?

Please answer yes or no.

>> But you can't answer...

Yes.

>> Are you concerned about

your failure rate?

>> Am I...everyone's concerned

about their failure rate.

It's an industry-wide concern.

>> Thank you.

>> My Lord, this is new

information.

>> It should have been

disclosed certainly.

>> What's clear beyond doubt

is this DNA evidence

is this DNA evidence is utterly compromised.

is utterly compromised.

>> You have to stop her.

>> It's a bit late for that.

>> She's twisting the facts

around to make them wrong.

>> Doing a good job of it, too.

>> If we don't have this DNA,

then what do we have?

then what do we have? >> A problem.

>> A problem.

>> Spaghetti carbonara

and an Arctic Roll for afters.

>> Ms. Morris, that's a matter

for defense counsel.

All I want to ask you about

is the search of your storage

unit, not the defense alibi,

such as it is.

Please stick to the matter

at hand.

>> My Lord.

>> Get on with it, Mr. Mayfield.

>> Ms. Morris, you maintain

a contract with this storage

facility?

>> I do, yes.

>> And when these premises were

searched by the police a few

days ago, a pair of size 12

boots was recovered from

your unit, isn't that right?

>> Yes, the other unit.

>> Are these your boots?

They seem rather large for you.

>> What other unit?

My Lord, this is new

information.

>> All new information was

given to my learned friend

yesterday.

>> Chain of continuity, my Lord.

>> Chain of continuity, my Lord. >> Usher.

>> Usher.

>> The warrant was for Eileen

Morris's possessions

in the storage unit.

>> They had no authority to

search F38, only F37.

The search of F38 was unlawful.

>> If defense had a problem

with the evidence, they should

have argued it at the

appropriate time and not now.

>> The issue has only just

come to light.

Foyle's previous use of F37

connects him to it.

It falls on the chain

of continuity.

F38 was entirely separate.

Judge, obviously I will ask you

to exclude this evidence

under Section 78.

under Section 78. >> It was the unit next door.

>> It was the unit next door.

>> And should you request,

I will no doubt accede.

>> [ sigh ]

>> Then I respectfully submit,

my Lord,

there is no case to answer

in the absence of any viable

evidence.

evidence. >> There is compelling evidence!

>> There is compelling evidence!

>> The eyewitness evidence

of a broken man, alone

of a broken man, alone and devastated in the dark.

and devastated in the dark.

>> Having heard arguments

from counsel as to the strengths

of the evidence at this stage

of the trial, I have concluded

the following.

There is insufficient evidence

for the case to continue

for your consideration.

For that reason, on my

direction, you will return

a verdict of not guilty.

>> On His Lordship's direction,

do you find the defendant

not guilty?

>> Not guilty.

>> And is that the verdict

of you all?

>> Yes.

>> Yes. >> All rise.

>> All rise.

>> Mr. Foyle, you may leave

>> Mr. Foyle, you may leave the dock.

the dock.

>> Congratulations.

>> Oh, thanks.

>> Margaret,

thank you, my friend.

thank you, my friend. >> A pleasure. Take care.

>> A pleasure. Take care.

>> Are you all right there,

mate? Sorry, my foot slipped.

You all right? Yeah?

You all right? Yeah? >> I'll be okay.

>> I'll be okay.

>> I'll be okay. >> Jamie.

>> Jamie.

[ applause ]

>> There she blows! Pull!

A consummate performance.

First class.

This is for you.

I believe you've earned it.

Pretty juicy, too.

Pretty juicy, too. >> Oh, thank you.

>> Oh, thank you.

>> Vadim?

>> Excuse me.

Mr. Will?

>> You're looking well.

>> I'm sorry to hear

about your wife.

>> Thank you.

>> If there is anything I can

do for you...

do for you... >> What time do you finish work?

>> What time do you finish work?

>> What time do you finish work? >> Clone it, please.

>> Clone it, please.

>> Clone it, please. >> It worked.

>> It worked.

The name you've wanted:

The name you've wanted: Ben Alligin.

Ben Alligin.

>> Hi. Sorry.

I just wanted to come and...

[ exhales ]

I'm not sure why I came,

actually.

Is that who I think it was?

>> Thought you'd be out

celebrating.

celebrating. >> No, just...

>> No, just...

I'm sorry. It's just-

>> Your job.

>> No hard feelings, by which-

>> No hard feelings, by which- >> Watch yourself, Maggie.

>> Watch yourself, Maggie.

>> Watch yourself, Maggie. >> [ gasp ]

>> [ gasp ]

>> Unbelievable.

>> Can I come around tonight,

please?

Please, I'm freaking out.

>> I can't believe you're

calling me.

>> Oh, come on.

Think! How did he know?

There's no way he could have

known.

Oh, God, oh, God,

Oh, God, oh, God, I'm just completely...

I'm just completely...

>> We have a window for appeal.

Maybe not now, but-

Maybe not now, but- >> Come on.

>> Come on.

>> Well, optimism was never...

>> Forget it. We lost.

>> Forget it. We lost. It's over.

It's over.

It's over. >> Will!

>> Will!

>> Will! >> Coming.

>> Coming.

>> I never knew

about this place.

>> Yeah. Kate's cousin lets us

use it every now and again.

Cracking a bottle of wine

Cracking a bottle of wine inside, if you're interested.

inside, if you're interested.

>> I'll tell you what.

It took some real sleuthing

to find you.

>> You know my methods, Watson.

Red or white?

>> Oh, you choose.

>> How are you, Danny?

>> All the better for seeing

you, mate.

>> Pop these in the pot,

would you?

>> That's alive-alive, huh?

>> Now you're talking.

>> Now you're talking. Oh, here. You pasta, me sauce.

Oh, here. You pasta, me sauce.

>> Don't you need a permit

for those?

>> Public right to fish

in tidal waters, Malcomson v.

O'Dea, 1863.

And before that,

the Magna Carta.

But to be fair, it's not

actually mentioned at all

in the Magna Carta.

Everyone just thinks it was.

So strictly speaking, right now

we just broke the law.

>> Well, to be precise, you did.

>> Yes, and now you're

an accessory.

>> What about me?

>> Probably just a caution.

>> Right, thanks.

>> You're very welcome.

Stop crying. Pour some wine.

>> Not even a civil suit?

>> We're not going

in that direction.

Even if we get him, no one wins.

It's not gonna bring her back.

>> You're just gonna sit here

>> You're just gonna sit here then?

then?

>> You keeping busy?

>> Been offered Chambers

Manager at Citadel.

Manchester.

>> You do know what they do to

>> You do know what they do to QPR supporters there, don't you?

QPR supporters there, don't you?

I am sorry you had to take

I am sorry you had to take that fall, Danny.

that fall, Danny.

>> You had us all worried

for a minute.

Disappearing and all that.

>> Why is that?

>> You always seemed so planned.

>> You haven't seen

the school run.

>> I mean, it's not like you

to do anything on the fly.

>> Well, that's me all over,

Danny.

Danny. I'm just full of surprises.

I'm just full of surprises.

>> How long does it take

to get to Edinburgh?

to get to Edinburgh? >> 10 minutes the way you drive.

>> 10 minutes the way you drive.

>> Try not to take off, okay?

Bye. I'll be back

as soon as I can.

Look after Grammy for me.

>> Dad?

>> Yeah?

>> Yeah? >> You're shaking.

>> You're shaking.

>> Look, I mean, if you really

were thinking of coming here,

we'd obviously be very

interested in having you

join the set.

>> Well, no.

I'm actively looking.

My family needs a change

of scene.

>> Oh, well, for families,

it's a lovely place.

You should rent a car and drive

around a bit while you're here,

see the scenery.

see the scenery. >> I might just do that.

>> I might just do that.

>> What would you like?

>> Hi. Do you mind if I use

>> Hi. Do you mind if I use your loo? Thanks.

your loo? Thanks.

your loo? Thanks. [ whistling ]

[ whistling ]

[ whistling ] [ horn honks ]

[ horn honks ]

>> What's the law

on home invasion these days?

I'm a little cloudy.

What's the proportionate

response to someone surprised

response to someone surprised in their home by a stranger?

in their home by a stranger?

>> I need to ask you something.

>> I'm on Facebook.

>> I know.

>> Well, you're here now,

so you can ask me whatever

so you can ask me whatever you like.

you like.

>> When did you decide

>> When did you decide to kill my wife?

to kill my wife?

Please, I need to know.

When you killed her,

When you killed her, did she die quickly?

did she die quickly?

>> Are you playing a character?

Are you? Are you all the way up

there looking all the way

down here?

And do you think

And do you think I'm a little bit stupid?

I'm a little bit stupid?

You're going about this

You're going about this all wrong.

all wrong.

>> Well, you're the expert.

When did you decide

to kill my wife?

>> You and your brain.

You ever seen a brain up close?

Looks like a cauliflower.

The neocortex looks like icing.

They say it's what separates us

from the animals,

but we are animals.

We're mammals like a lion.

You wouldn't blame a lion for

being a lion, would you, Will?

Especially if you were the one

who let him out.

>> How do you live

with yourself?

>> I forgive myself.

How do you live with yourself?

How do you live with yourself? [ coughing ]

[ coughing ]

[ coughing ] [ retching and coughing ]

[ retching and coughing ]

Oh, you're very clever.

Oh, you're very clever. [ choking and coughing ]

[ choking and coughing ]

Get the pen!

Get the pen! Get the pen! [ gasping ]

Get the pen! [ gasping ]

>> Ambulance.

>> It's an oval tube.

>> Oval tube! Yes, yes!

It's sort of gray

with an orange end.

>> Yeah, that's it.

>> I'll put you on speaker.

Still hear me?

>> Yes, I can hear you.

Are you holding the tube?

>> Yeah.

>> Now put your fist

around the tube.

>> Okay.

>> Hold the orange tip

near the thigh.

>> He has his trousers on.

>> The needle will go through

the clothing.

Hold the orange tip

near his thigh.

With your other hand, pull off

the blue safety release.

>> I've done it.

>> Now swing and firmly pierce

the tip against the thigh until

it clicks and hold it there

for 10 seconds.

Did you get that?

>> Swing, click, wait, okay.

Here goes. [ pen whistles ]

What was that?

>> You probably heard

the needle mechanism.

It's spring-loaded.

>> Okay.

>> The drug in the Epipen

should keep him steady till

the ambulance gets to you.

Are you still with me?

>> Yeah, I'm here.

>> You're doing great.

>> What now?

>> Okay, you can take it out.

Now look at the barrel.

Is there a red strip

visible on the barrel?

That will tell you

that the drug went in.

>> Hang on, hang on.

I can't see it.

>> Just above the writing,

there's a window.

>> Oh, yes.

Yes, yes, yes, it's there.

Yes, yes, yes, it's there. >> Is the patient responding?

>> Is the patient responding?

Sir? Sir, hello?

Anybody hear me? Hello?

Anybody there? Hello, sir?

Anybody there? Hello, sir? Can you hear me?

Can you hear me?

Can you hear me? [ siren ]

[ siren ]

>> Are you all right?

>> There's a bit of smoke.

>> Just the two of you up there?

>> Yeah.

>> Vasodilation. Capillary leak.

>> Is he gonna be okay?

>> Bad shoulder bleed here.

>> All right, well, let's just

concentrate on his breathing

to begin with.

>> All right, here you are.

You're gonna be all right, okay?

We're just the paramedics.

>> You'd better come with us.

>> No, no. My car's over there.

>> No, mate. We can't leave you.

You're gonna come with us.

Bring that green bag, please.

One, two, three, lift!

One, two, three, lift! Okay, let's go. Go.

Okay, let's go. Go.

>> Your friend was there.

He's used your Epipen.

We've got some more adrenalin

ready if you need it, all right?

Everything is okay.

Look, I know your breathing's

not that easy at the moment,

but we'll be in the hospital

in five minutes, okay?

So you just hang on there.

Just open your eyes.

>> He's lost his pulse!

Chest compressions!

Okay, I got one milligram

of adrenalin.

>> [ gasping ]

>> Okay, well done.

All right, okay.

>> Mind if I open a window?

I'm gonna be sick.

I'm gonna be sick. >> He's arrested in the back.

>> He's arrested in the back.

>> He's arrested in the back. [ monitor flatlines ]

[ monitor flatlines ]

>> William Burton?

>> William Burton? Will you come with us, please?

Will you come with us, please?

Did you and Mr. Foyle

have any interactions?

>> Yes. He attacked me

>> Yes. He attacked me and I stabbed him.

and I stabbed him.

and I stabbed him. With this.

With this.

With this. [ door opens ]

[ door opens ]

>> Quite a shock,

don't you think?

don't you think? >> What is?

>> What is?

He's dead?

He's dead? >> Keep reading.

>> Keep reading.

>> Excuse me.

Does Vadim Kumarin

still work here?

Do you know where he might be?

Do you know where he might be? Do you know...okay.

Do you know...okay.

Thank you.

Welcome to Scotland.

>> Is that where I am?

I wondered why everyone here

was Scottish.

>> Good news from the Fiscal.

They're saying that they'd

recommend acceptance if you

offered a Section 76 plea

of culpable homicide.

Probably a 30% discount

in sentence.

That's nine years at most,

out in six.

>> That's good news because...

>> Because you're in

serious trouble.

If you think of going not

guilty, that's a murder trial

and the Crown's gonna be

all out for your blood.

Look, I typed up a draft plea

offer for you.

This is a choice.

You get life or a minimum

of 20 years for murder

or sign the offer.

Do six years and see your son

finish school instead of

missing the whole thing.

>> I'm not missing

a single second.

>> Don't be like this.

Come on.

You need to seriously

consider this.

>> Do you think I did it?

>> No, no.

>> No, no. Of course I don't.

Of course I don't.

>> Make sure you recycle that.

I appreciate you coming down,

Jen, but I think

I'll do it myself.

>> You can't.

>> I can.

In fact, I can do it all myself.

>> No, you can't.

This is Scots law. There are

a thousand differences.

>> Renton and Brown, right?

>> Renton and Brown, right? That's a punchy read.

That's a punchy read.

I know you've always been there

for me.

I'm sorry, but this isn't

gonna work out.

>> What do you think

you're doing, huh?

I'm trying to help you here.

>> I know. Thank you.

>> I know. Thank you. But I'll take it from here.

But I'll take it from here.

But I'll take it from here. >> Court.

>> Court.

>> Ladies and gentlemen,

the charge on the indictment

is that on the 23rd of March

at a house near Overton

in Kielder Forest, Scotland,

William Burton did assault

Liam Michael Foyle and did stab

him on the body with a knife

containing thereon a substance

knowing that this would cause

severe injury, anaphylaxis,

and death to the recipient

and he did murder him.

Call the diet of Her Majesty's

advocate against William Burton.

>> We have no opening speeches

in Scottish courts, Mr. Burton,

just in case you're planning

on making one at this stage.

>> Oh, really?

>> Mr. Burton, you know you

have been strongly advised

against representing yourself.

>> That's been made very clear,

my Lord.

>> Very well.

>> Can I move my papers

to the table?

>> No.

>> I can't very well run

my case from the dock, can I?

>> That, Mr. Burton, is exactly

what you are going to do.

>> What are you doing?

>> Is this a common allergy?

>> Not really.

It's an allergy to a particular

gastropod, specifically limpets.

>> He was deathly allergic

to limpets.

>> Well, more specifically,

an active protein known as

tropomyosin.

>> And where was this allergen?

How did Mr. Foyle

come into contact with it?

>> Well, localized swelling at

the wound site suggests it may

have been present on the weapon

used to enter him before

he died.

>> Thank you, doctor.

>> Thank you, doctor. >> Mr. Burton?

>> Mr. Burton?

>> No, thank you, my Lord.

>> Mr. Burton, you are aware,

of course, that once you give

evidence on your own behalf,

you're opening yourself up to

cross examination by the Crown?

>> Very well aware, my Lord.

>> What now?

>> Okay, you can take it out.

Now look at the barrel.

Is there a red strip visible

on the barrel?

That will tell you that

the drug went in.

>> Hang on, hang on.

I can't see it.

>> Just above the writing,

there's a window.

>> Oh, yes!

Yes, yes, yes. It's there.

>> Is the patient responding?

[ thud ]

>> Sir? Hello?

>> Sir? Hello? Anybody hear-

Anybody hear-

>> You appeared to be very calm

during this interaction.

Were you?

>> I was trying to be.

>> What were you doing

in Kielder Forest, Mr. Burton?

>> I had a job interview in

Carlisle and the person I spoke

to suggested that I tour around

a bit.

>> Do you normally conduct

job interviews with a knife?

>> I got married with a knife.

Every Scotsman worth his kilt

gets married with a knife.

>> You bumped into Mr. Foyle

by pure chance?

>> Yes, I saw him in a pub

and I felt compelled

to confront him.

>> You sought him out

to force a confession.

Isn't that correct?

>> Yes.

>> Yes, that's right.

Double jeopardy law pertaining

to compelling new evidence.

>> I believe Mr. Burton

has answered the question.

>> My Lord.

A confession.

Something that you would have

desired very much?

>> Yes.

>> And yet when he denied you

this request, you took his life.

>> No.

>> You flew into a rage

and attacked him with a knife,

didn't you?

>> When was this? Sorry?

>> When you slashed him

with the knife, as you've said

clearly in your statement.

>> Oh, yes, before I carried

him out of a burning building.

>> Mr. Burton.

>> Just being clear

on chronology.

>> Flying close to the sun.

>> A gastropod allergy,

a specific kind of shellfish.

Not exactly easy information

to find out.

>> No, I would imagine not.

>> Have you ever had cause

to access a client's

medical records?

>> Yes, though only if

pertinent to the case.

>> In the case of Sandra

Mullins, you were lead counsel

for Mr. Foyle's defense.

>> I was.

>> Did you ever request any

medical information regarding

Mr. Foyle?

>> No.

>> You did not?

>> No, I did not access

his files.

>> I believe his no

was sufficient.

>> My Lord. You cannot prove

this, of course.

He was your client.

You were intimately acquainted

with his information.

>> No. Confidential medical

files are all digitized and

kept securely at the solicitors

or presumably equally securely

at his doctor's or hospital,

which is a long-winded way of

saying no, I did not access his

saying no, I did not access his files and, yes, I can prove it.

files and, yes, I can prove it.

>> What Mr. Burton is asking

of you is very simple,

ladies and gentlemen.

He wants you to believe

his little story.

He wants you to believe

that through an ironic twist of

fate, this was the wrong knife

in the wrong hand

at the wrong time.

I respectfully submit to you

that this is pure fabrication.

This was foreknowledge

with malicious intent.

He will tell you otherwise,

but I ask only this question.

He tells a good story,

but do we really believe him?

>> I'm a lawyer.

I have lived and believed

I have lived and believed in the law all my life.

in the law all my life.

But until the law happens to

you, believe me, you don't know

you, believe me, you don't know which way you're gonna go.

which way you're gonna go.

The man I faced in that cabin

is the man I know beyond

is the man I know beyond all doubt murdered my wife.

all doubt murdered my wife.

I could have done a lot

of things to him.

Instead, I saw him suffer

and I called an ambulance.

and I called an ambulance. I removed him from danger.

I removed him from danger.

I did what any decent human

being should do,

but make no mistake.

I did those things out

of nothing more than a sincere

duty to our common decency.

I did so because that's what's

expected when you're a person

expected when you're a person in the world.

in the world.

I risked my life to save

the man who took away

the man who took away my heart...

my heart...

my compass, my anchor,

my compass, my anchor, my best friend.

my best friend.

I faced him down

with a knife in my hand.

I could have let him burn.

In the circumstances, I believe

I exerted an extraordinary

I exerted an extraordinary amount of restraint.

amount of restraint.

amount of restraint. Liam Foyle is dead.

Liam Foyle is dead.

Liam Foyle is dead. I rejoice in his passing...

I rejoice in his passing...

but you should not convict me

but you should not convict me of his murder.

of his murder.

>> Will? Will?

>> Oh, hi.

Okay, interesting.

>> I wanted to talk to you.

>> Well, I'd hurry up

if I were you.

You know what juries

can be like.

They can't deliberate forever.

How you feeling?

>> How am I feeling?

>> When you heard what happened.

Come on, you weren't just

a wee bit relieved?

>> I needed to talk to you.

>> Moral support?

>> Legal advice.

I've been grappling with a case

that's been bothering me and

that's been bothering me and I wondered if you could help.

I wondered if you could help.

>> Be right back.

>> Be right back. Shoot.

Shoot.

>> Something occurred to me the

other day that if you wanted

to break into a safe, then the

first person you'd call

is a locksmith.

And if you wanted to commit

murder and get away with it,

you might just want to talk

to a criminal barrister.

>> It's an interesting idea.

>> They'd have seen enough

cases turn on discovery to know

that a perfect crime only stays

perfect if it's done in plain

sight, wouldn't you say?

>> Could be.

>> Everyone would have all

the facts in front of them.

They'd still have no idea

how he really did it.

Step one, he'd find

the Achilles heel, a deathly

allergy, say, a rare one.

>> How did this person

find out something like that?

>> What does a criminal

barrister do all day long?

>> Chase invoices.

>> Talk to criminals.

Wouldn't that give him

an address book full of

potential contacts?

For example, in the case that

I'm working on, the man was

seen talking to a known

criminal.

>> Well, how could the person

be sure it was him?

The criminal, I mean.

Presuming it was a he,

of course.

>> He was well-known

to the eyewitness.

>> Yeah, but was it day

or night?

Was he on foot? In a vehicle?

Was the observer under

any stress at all?

>> Step two, what if he found

a natural-occurring source for

the allergen somewhere innocent

and everyday?

If they argued self-defense,

they might load up a weapon

with that allergen

to administer the dose.

>> With you so far.

>> But to put so much weight on

one dose of allergen, that might

not be enough, don't you think?

>> Well, I mean, I wouldn't

know the first thing about it.

>> Step three, these people

with allergies of such severity

that may cause anaphylaxis,

they carry these little

lifesaving pens with them,

don't they?

Called Epipens.

Do you think it's possible to

repurpose a pen as a poison pen?

By replacing the carrier

solution with the solution

of the allergen,

a person might sabotage

the very thing that would save

a person's life.

>> That sounds diabolical.

>> It does, doesn't it?

>> You mentioned

a legal question.

>> And if that person called

999 and the emergency services

talked him through

administering that pen to the

victim, then it's almost like

collusion in the crime with

the emergency services.

They'd be walking that person

step by step through the murder.

>> Oh, you mean they'd have

a public record

of the conversation.

>> Yes.

>> That might fly.

I really don't think anyone

would seriously attempt it.

>> Why not?

>> I think murder is against

the law.

I mean, last time I looked.

>> Will-

>> You're drawing a line,

a big red one.

There's a huge difference

between knowing where the line

is and stepping over it.

>> I know I couldn't.

>> Why not?

>> I'd be scared

of getting caught.

>> You just said

it was the perfect crime.

it was the perfect crime. >> Oh, it is. It is.

>> Oh, it is. It is.

>> Oh, it is. It is. Except for three things.

Except for three things.

Except for three things. >> Three? Really?

>> Three? Really?

>> One, disposing the weapon.

There'd be two Epipens,

of course, the innocent one

and the murder weapon.

The killer would have to

discharge the innocent Epipen,

the one belonging to the victim

left at the locus so it looked

like he's done what you talked

to the emergency services about.

Then I'd imagine he'd have to

chuck the poison Epipen in the

Sharps disposal bags at the

hospital, but there's a chance

it could be found before

being incinerated if the police

do a full-scale search.

>> Ah, very clever.

>> Two, obtaining the pen

in the first place.

He'd have to know someone

with a prescription already.

>> Hmm, good point.

>> Oh, and then there's

>> Oh, and then there's number three.

number three.

Patient suffered IgE phylum

mollusca allergies, severe

bronchospasm and anaphylaxis

and under additional

observations hidden away in the

footnotes, some local swelling

at wound

at wound and injection site.

and injection site.

But they don't test

for epinephrine after death,

so there's no way of knowing

if the Epipen had been used

or not except

for the puncture wound.

So my number three is this.

Risk of follow-up histology

Risk of follow-up histology on local puncture site.

on local puncture site.

>> You have a very

creative mind.

>> Would that person be able to

sleep soundly knowing that at

any moment there might be

another postmortem

that identifies allergen

that identifies allergen at the Epipen site?

at the Epipen site?

>> Well, I guess that depends.

>> On what?

>> On whether the body's

>> On whether the body's been cremated.

been cremated.

been cremated. >> [ crying ]

>> [ crying ]

>> Can the Foreman stand,

please?

Have you reached a verdict?

>> We have.

>> In the case of Her Majesty's

applicant against William

Burton, how do you find the

Burton, how do you find the accused on the charge of murder?

accused on the charge of murder?

>> Not proven.

>> Yes!

>> Silence, please!

>> Silence, please! Silence, please!

Silence, please!

>> Mr. Burton? Mr. Burton?

Any comments, Mr. Burton?

>> Not proven, of course,

the third verdict available

in Scottish law, effectively

an acquittal, one which suggests

a suspicion of guilt with

insufficient evidence.

>> Do you think you would have

gotten away with it in

an English court of law,

Mr. Burton?

>> Take care.

>> Take care. [ reporters shouting questions ]

[ reporters shouting questions ]

[ reporters shouting questions ] >> Okay.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. Hold it down.

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