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What intrigues me
is Paraguay.
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Even if half of those
sightings are accurate,
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he's doing something
up there.
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Like, we got
to find this place.
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Look at this fence.
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Why do you need that
out here?
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Yeah,
walls are very thick.
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They're thick enough
to stop a bullet.
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This might be
a guard shack.
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Kennedy:
From this one position alone,
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you could almost
lock down this valley.
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This is where Adolf Hitler
can stay safe and secure,
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move his plans forward
for the Fourth Reich.
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**
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We have been collecting
evidence for three years.
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I never thought
we would get this far.
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Narrator: CIA veteran Bob Baer
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and former terrorist
targeting officer Nada Bakos
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are using
an asset-mapping strategy,
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following the known
assets of Adolf Hitler
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to determine where he could've
gone after World War II.
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Look at
these photographs.
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They review the findings
from Salto Suizo, Paraguay,
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where declassified files
and an eyewitness report
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led the team
to a potential hideout
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for Hitler deep in the jungle.
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Look at this compound
we found in Paraguay.
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I mean, that place
is defensible.
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There's just simply no way
you're going to get in there
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and surprise anybody.
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We've got completely
controlled access.
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We've got cliffs
on all sides.
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There's only one road in,
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and it's blocked off
by this guard house.
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I mean, most people
do not build guard houses
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around their compounds.
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This compound clearly fits
all the parameters
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that
we were looking for.
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Yes, all of these things
would serve somebody
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like Adolf Hitler,
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and he could spend years
living in this house
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and in this compound,
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and no one
would know the better.
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The problem is, the Nazis
are not running operations
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out in the middle
of nowhere.
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This place is too small,
too provincial.
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If you're building
the Fourth Reich,
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you need access
to personnel,
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communications
and transportation
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to actually run
operations with money,
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and the rest of it's got
to be somewhere else.
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Right.
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So where are they
operating out of?
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Let's do a search
and see what we got.
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Look at this, CIA,
Nazi war criminals,
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espionage network
in Latin America.
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Latin America was parceled out
among various agents.
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Walter Rauff
was assigned Chile
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and Joseph Mengele
Paraguay.
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This is crucial because
there's an organization here.
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There is a structure.
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They've divided up
South America,
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trusted SS officers
that know what they're doing,
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and they're in South America,
not hiding but organizing.
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This is a huge piece
of the story
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because it tells me those Nazi
communities in South America,
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they're a bunch of cells,
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and they were connected
by these senior leaders.
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Walter Rauff in Chile
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and Joseph Mengele
in Paraguay,
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they've divided up the Fourth
Reich in South America.
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Walter Rauff, SS officer,
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designed mobile gas
chambers responsible
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for the death of 100,000
peopleing the Holocaust.
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His whole life was about
making murder efficient.
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This guy was a huge danger
to humanity.
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Earlier in the investigation,
we determined
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with a fair amount
of certainty Walter Rauff
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was connected with
Colonia Dignidad.
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Colonia Dignidad
is a secretive place
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in the middle of nowhere,
Chile.
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It's not a question
if Nazis were there.
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It's, what were
they doing there?
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Simpson: This is major.
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This is, like, a country
within a country
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where they can do
anything they want.
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Baer:
The Colonia Dignidad,
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you've got security,
tunnels and bunkers,
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reinforced
communications equipment.
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It's a big military camp.
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Rauff is clearly a major
player in the Fourth Reich.
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If he's the Nazi
in charge of Chile,
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what else was he doing
that we don't know about?
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If we can figure out
what Rauff was up to,
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we're going to get to
the beating heart
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of the Fourth Reich.
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-That's what it said.
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Narrator: U.S. Army Green Beret
Mike Simpson
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and former U.S. Marshals
Commander Lenny DePaul
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land in Santiago, Chile.
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-Hello, sir.
-Hi.
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Narrator:
They meet with Pedro Mata,
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a professor at Trinity College
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who specializes
in Latin American history,
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to better understand
Walter Rauff's role in Chile
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after World War II.
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DePaul: We wanted
to talk specifics
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with respect to a guy
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by the name
of Walter Rauff.
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Mm-hmm.
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I was at Colonia Dignidad,
and, of course, on the surface,
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Paul Schaefer was
the man in charge,
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but everything that I've seen
in my investigation
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has led me to believe
that Walter Rauff
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was the one pulling
the strings there.
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What was DINA?
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Narrator: Formed under fascist
dictator of Chile
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Augusto Pinochet,
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DINA was a secret police
force started in 1973.
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Its role was to silence
all opposition,
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often using extreme violence
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similar to the tactics
of the Nazis.
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DINA sounds
just like the Gestapo.
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Doesn't sound
like the Gestapo.
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It is the Gestapo.
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They're not just re-enacting
the Nazi methodology in Germany.
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They're extending it.
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This continued
right here in Chile.
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Walter Rauff brought
that Nazi playbook right here.
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Pedro was able to get us
into these archives
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where apparently no one has
ever seen these documents.
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They were just recently
released about 2 months ago,
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so it is extremely important
that we see this stuff.
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We need to find out
fully what the vision
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was for Walter Rauff's
Fourth Reich plans.
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Look at this stuff.
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DePaul: Page one.
Wow.
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All Nazi Germans,
all wearing a swastika.
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Look at this.
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What were so many Nazis
doing in Chile?
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They were setting the table
for something.
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I mean, some of these photos,
they're marching.
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They're just not here
collecting data
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and going to church.
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What were
they training for?
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Mm-hmm.
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So they had plans to blow up
the Panama Canal?
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-Yes.
-Geez, if that happened,
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they would've crippled
the Americans.
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Unbelievable.
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The Nazis right here in Chile
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were going to take out
the Panama Canal,
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and that was U.S. territory
into the '70s.
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They were going to
attack us on our own soil.
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It talks about
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that they were setting up
communication nodes,
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communication networks.
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Communications, if you're
going to run a spy network,
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that is always key.
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You see
some of these photos.
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You can see
some of the radios.
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Wow.
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Mm-hmm.
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So they had comms
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throughout all
of South America if needed?
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It's pretty easy to control
the entire country of Chile
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if you got radios.
You're talking to each other.
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There's communications
going on.
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I was at Colonia Dignidad,
and I saw the tower
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that they have there
with the radio antenna.
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Wow.
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We're about just shy
of 3,000 feet up
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off the valley floor.
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I thought Colonia Dignidad
was an isolated thing.
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There was another camp.
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Oh.
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754 camps?
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Wow.
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Unbelievable.
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Up until now,
I had firmly believed
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that Colonia Dignidad
was an isolated incident.
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The mere idea that there
were as many as 754
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copies of Colonia Dignidad,
it's just mind-boggling.
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This was Nazism in its purest
and most evil form.
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This goes much deeper
than we'd ever imagined.
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O0 C1Baer: Look what
we found in Chile.
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These guys down here
are planning to blow up
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the Panama Canal.
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The Nazis were a lot closer
to attacking us
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from Latin America
than they were from Europe.
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Narrator: Bob and Nada
review the findings
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from the team in Santiago,
Chile,
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where a declassified
CIA document
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reports that Nazi war criminal
Walter Rauff
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may have been
overseeing an operation
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to prepare Chile
for a Nazi Fourth Reich.
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We know that Rauff
was actually leading
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the DINA secret police,
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so they were using
the Nazi skill set
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to control the population
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and to achieve
whatever they wanted.
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Don't you find this
just, like, appalling,
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that a mass murderer,
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Walter Rauff,
a wanted Nazi,
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is running the secret police
of an Allied country?
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And not only that,
we have reports
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of almost 800
military camps in Chile.
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I mean, 800 camps?
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What were they doing?
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If you look at Colonia Dignidad,
it was a fortress in Chile.
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What were they doing
with the 800 other camps?
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We don't know.
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We got
into Colonia Dignidad,
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and it was amazing
what we found there.
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They're making arms.
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They could've made
biochemical weapons.
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They were training.
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I mean, I was astounded.
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I had no idea that
this sort of Nazi camp
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existed in South America,
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but now we're talking
about 800 camps.
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Imagine the power that they
would've had in South America
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if they had
800 Colonia Dignidads.
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We need to find someone
who can tell us more
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about what's happening
in these camps.
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Yeah, you're right.
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The question is, were these
camps all connected
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and coordinating?
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There could've been Nazi camps
set up across Chile
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run by SS officers
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that would give
them infrastructure
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to create
the Fourth Reich.
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After seeing just how
horrendous it was firsthand
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in Colonia Dignidad,
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you don't want to believe
that something
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that terrible
can be widespread.
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Narrator: Mike Simpson
and Lenny DePaul
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land in Iquique, Chile,
to investigate
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the capabilities of the camps'
spread across Chile
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after World War II.
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Simpson: We know
that Colonia Dignidad
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was literally one of the most
evil places in the world,
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and up until now,
I had firmly believed
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that Colonia Dignidad
was an isolated incident,
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but I'm shocked to hear
that it was not,
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that there were as
many as 754 camps.
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So now the question is,
what was the specific planning
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and implementation
of the Fourth Reich
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in these camps?
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Narrator: The team makes contact
with Hector Pavolich,
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who was imprisoned
at one of these camps
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along with his family.
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Hector?
Hector?
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Tomas.
-Nice to meet you.
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-Mucho gusto, señor.
-Hola.
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DePaul:
We appreciate his time,
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and tell him thanks for
coming out to talk to us.
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We very much appreciate it.
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Simpson: We understand you spent
some time in camp.
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He was detained the 11th
of September of '73.
265
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He was a prisoner
with his father
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and after that with his mother.
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-Mm.
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-He was 22.
-Okay.
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How long
was he in the camp?
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He was 8 1/2 months
in Pisagua.
271
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Pisagua is
the name of the camp?
272
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When he says, "Camp,"
is it like a prison,
273
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or what exactly
went on there?
274
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So the first thing when
they arrived at the camp,
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it was, like, beatings.
Like, they...
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-...just beat them up.
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They had them locked
down and tortured.
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The camp had the presence
of German Nazi.
279
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German Nazis?
I mean, who was it?
280
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Walter Rauff was the guy
who was in charge of everything.
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Unbelievable.
And he was torturing this man?
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This is major
because this confirms
283
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that this was all part
of a larger network.
284
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Colonia Dignidad and this camp
were related
285
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and both under the command
of Walter Rauff,
286
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and this was not
an isolated incident
287
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we uncovered previously.
288
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This was a network.
-Wow.
289
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Walter Rauff had a lot
to do with these camps.
290
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How much do you know
about the level of control
291
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that he had on the camps,
292
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how much he participated in
what went on there day to day
293
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and how many of these camps
he might've been supervising?
294
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I need to see Pisagua.
We need to see it.
295
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Would it be possible
for you to take us there?
296
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And I know what I'm asking
you is very difficult.
297
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He's still alive is
to tell what happened,
298
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so he would be happy
to take you.
299
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-I appreciate your courage.
-Yeah.
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DePaul:
Walter Rauff had a game plan.
301
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He's here for something.
302
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He's not sitting here
running prisons
303
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because he wants
to be a warden.
304
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He's looking at a Fourth Reich.
305
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There's a plan in place,
but to fully understand
306
00:16:02,329 --> 00:16:04,197
what Walter Rauff
wanted to do,
307
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Mike and I need
to get to Pisagua
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and see what's going on there.
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O0 C1**
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Simpson: We're literally
at the end of the world.
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Narrator: Following
a declassified CIA file
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claiming that SS officer
Walter Rauff
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was overseeing the Nazi
Fourth Reich in Chile,
314
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Mike, Lenny and
their translator, Tomas,
315
00:16:38,731 --> 00:16:43,070
traverse the Atacama Desert
towards Pisagua Prison Camp,
316
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accompanied by Hector Pavolich,
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a political dissident who spent
2 years imprisoned at this camp.
318
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Simpson: As a minimum, there
were 754 camps here in Chile.
319
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This uncovers a whole new aspect
to the Fourth Reich
320
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that we had never seen before.
321
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What were they doing?
322
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**
323
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**
324
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Wow.
325
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This is like
a black-site prison
326
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where you send people
to disappear.
327
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That's where they built
the barracks for the camp.
328
00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:28,515
So this is right here,
right, right here?
329
00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:32,319
Pavolich: Right.
330
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Tomas: The barracks were made
for the prisoners.
331
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He only saw the sunlight,
like, 15 days.
332
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So in this area, they have
machine guns put up to,
333
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like, control the camp.
334
00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:51,238
DePaul:
Follow the Nazi blueprints.
335
00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:52,805
Look at that.
336
00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:54,307
Simpson: When they first
brought you to the camp,
337
00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:56,743
where was the exact spot
where they unloaded you?
338
00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:58,678
Right in front of the jail.
339
00:17:58,711 --> 00:18:01,114
Would he mind taking us down
there to get a closer look?
340
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Narrator: Hector leads the team
to the camp's central jail,
341
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1/4 mile below
the machine-gun overlook.
342
00:18:10,623 --> 00:18:12,492
-Yes.
343
00:18:12,525 --> 00:18:19,266
**
344
00:18:19,299 --> 00:18:25,905
**
345
00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:27,140
DePaul: Three stories high.
346
00:18:30,577 --> 00:18:33,146
So how many people
were imprisoned here?
347
00:18:37,317 --> 00:18:38,785
Wow.
348
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,720
That's just mind-boggling
just even picturing
349
00:18:40,753 --> 00:18:45,192
that much humanity
crammed into this small space,
350
00:18:45,225 --> 00:18:48,395
using the same Nazi trade craft,
just rounding them up,
351
00:18:48,428 --> 00:18:49,796
putting them in camps.
352
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:55,702
So they made them
stand here
353
00:18:55,735 --> 00:18:57,537
before carrying them
to the cells.
354
00:18:57,570 --> 00:18:58,838
DePaul: Why?
355
00:18:58,871 --> 00:19:01,274
They took their name aways,
356
00:19:01,308 --> 00:19:03,376
and he became number 14.
357
00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:04,411
They wouldn't even
use your name?
358
00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:05,912
You were just number 14?
359
00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:10,750
This looks more and more
like a Nazi prison camp
360
00:19:10,783 --> 00:19:14,187
in every way from the layout
to the way they processed
361
00:19:14,221 --> 00:19:16,689
the prisoners,
numbering and dehumanizing.
362
00:19:16,723 --> 00:19:18,658
Everything is there.
363
00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:20,760
This is the route
they made them walk
364
00:19:20,793 --> 00:19:22,229
to get to the barracks
365
00:19:22,262 --> 00:19:26,199
for torture,
blindfolded, tied up.
366
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Narrator: The team heads
500 yards to the location
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00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,737
of the former prison barracks.
368
00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:31,838
What did they do to you?
369
00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:41,481
They had
practically, like,
370
00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:44,751
a lab with different
torture systems,
371
00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:47,787
terrible things here.
372
00:19:47,820 --> 00:19:49,556
It's like
the Nazis years ago.
373
00:19:49,589 --> 00:19:52,759
Yeah, it's all the same.
It's their manual.
374
00:19:52,792 --> 00:19:54,527
When he was being tortured
375
00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:56,729
in one of the first
barracks here
376
00:19:56,763 --> 00:19:58,598
when he was tied up
like this,
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00:19:58,631 --> 00:19:59,966
they hit him with a stick.
378
00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:01,834
The blindfold moved up,
379
00:20:01,868 --> 00:20:04,704
and he saw on his right
the Nazi flag,
380
00:20:04,737 --> 00:20:06,406
on his left,
the Chilean flag.
381
00:20:08,908 --> 00:20:11,411
Nazi flag, doesn't get
any more plain than that.
382
00:20:11,444 --> 00:20:12,745
Carrying their colors.
383
00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:13,946
What we're seeing
here in Pisagua
384
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,815
is starting to remind us more
385
00:20:15,848 --> 00:20:18,951
and more of what a Nazi
concentration camp looks like.
386
00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:21,388
It's all about control.
387
00:20:21,421 --> 00:20:23,390
They want to silence
the opposition.
388
00:20:23,423 --> 00:20:25,658
If you opposed anything that
this regime was trying
389
00:20:25,692 --> 00:20:27,460
to incorporate,
390
00:20:27,494 --> 00:20:29,496
you came here to one of these
camps, and you suffered.
391
00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:32,031
They're not only taking pages
from the Nazi playbook.
392
00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:33,433
They're flying their flag.
393
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:45,578
The ultimate price
for no cooperation.
394
00:20:45,612 --> 00:20:47,847
Narrator: Hector leads the team
to the westernmost edge
395
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,482
of the compound,
396
00:20:49,516 --> 00:20:52,419
the site of a massive graveyard.
397
00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:57,890
Look at this.
398
00:20:57,924 --> 00:21:00,560
Oh, my God.
399
00:21:07,667 --> 00:21:10,903
It's a mass grave where he
personally found the bodies
400
00:21:10,937 --> 00:21:15,375
of the people that were
executed in Pisagua.
401
00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:16,643
Simpson: All right here?
402
00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:18,645
Yes.
403
00:21:18,678 --> 00:21:20,780
People that no one knew
where they end at,
404
00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:22,849
they were found here.
405
00:21:22,882 --> 00:21:25,552
I'm immediately reminded
of the mass graves,
406
00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:27,454
you know,
Auschwitz, Dachau,
407
00:21:27,487 --> 00:21:29,322
Terezín, you know,
all those places
408
00:21:29,356 --> 00:21:31,023
that the Nazis would
just line them up
409
00:21:31,057 --> 00:21:32,525
and put bullets
in the back of their heads
410
00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:35,428
and just push them in
and push the dirt over,
411
00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,397
the way they brought them in,
the way they numbered them,
412
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:39,599
the way they split them up,
the way they dehumanized them,
413
00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:41,334
tortured them right up
414
00:21:41,368 --> 00:21:43,703
until the way they disposed
of them
415
00:21:43,736 --> 00:21:45,372
like they were nothing,
416
00:21:45,405 --> 00:21:47,674
like they weren't
even human beings.
417
00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:49,809
This philosophy made it
halfway around the world
418
00:21:49,842 --> 00:21:51,378
and grew roots here
419
00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:53,713
to a Nazi-style
concentration camp
420
00:21:53,746 --> 00:21:56,649
flying a Nazi flag.
421
00:21:56,683 --> 00:21:59,786
DePaul: That whole Nazi ideology
just continued on after the war.
422
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:05,558
These were not Nazis who
had escaped to South America
423
00:22:05,592 --> 00:22:07,460
to live out their days
in obscurity.
424
00:22:07,494 --> 00:22:08,861
They were brazen.
425
00:22:08,895 --> 00:22:10,963
They were open,
spreading their ideology
426
00:22:10,997 --> 00:22:12,932
and cultivating a Fourth Reich,
427
00:22:12,965 --> 00:22:14,801
what appears to be a violent,
428
00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:17,637
iron-fisted control
of the opposition,
429
00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:21,474
even the most dangerous
weapon, mass murder.
430
00:22:33,653 --> 00:22:35,388
O0 C1
DePaul: That whole Nazi
ideology, I mean,
431
00:22:35,422 --> 00:22:37,123
it just got uplifted
from Germany
432
00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:39,726
and set down
right here in Chile.
433
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:41,928
Yeah, just different coat
of paint on it,
434
00:22:41,961 --> 00:22:43,863
different language.
435
00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:45,898
Narrator: After investigating
a remote torture camp
436
00:22:45,932 --> 00:22:48,835
run by high-ranking
Nazi Walter Rauff,
437
00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:50,136
who could've been responsible
438
00:22:50,169 --> 00:22:52,705
for Fourth Reich
operations in Chile...
439
00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:01,548
...Lenny and Mike land
outside of Santiago
440
00:23:01,581 --> 00:23:02,915
where they prepare
to make contact
441
00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:05,151
with an anonymous informant,
442
00:23:05,184 --> 00:23:07,987
the grandson of
a Nazi war criminal
443
00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:11,190
who previously shared thousands
of never-before-seen documents
444
00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:14,627
with Tim and Gerrard
in Buenos Aires.
445
00:23:14,661 --> 00:23:16,896
We understand that
you have documents
446
00:23:16,929 --> 00:23:19,065
that detail the movement
of Nazis
447
00:23:19,098 --> 00:23:20,467
in Argentina postwar.
448
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,671
I've not seen documents
like this before.
449
00:23:24,704 --> 00:23:26,205
These are proof
450
00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:30,109
of these Nazis
coming into the country.
451
00:23:30,142 --> 00:23:33,780
This informant has now agreed
to meet the team in Chile
452
00:23:33,813 --> 00:23:36,683
and has told them that he has
potentially history-changing
453
00:23:36,716 --> 00:23:39,118
documents connected
to Walter Rauff
454
00:23:39,151 --> 00:23:41,521
and the Fourth Reich in Chile.
455
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:43,590
He's a credible source.
456
00:23:43,623 --> 00:23:45,224
And we've vetted
everything he's given us,
457
00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:47,126
and everything he's
given us so far...
458
00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:49,562
-Yeah.
-...has been completely correct.
459
00:23:49,596 --> 00:23:51,498
Well, we'll see what
he knows about Chile.
460
00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:54,166
Yeah, this is it.
461
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,504
The team arrives at a private
home where the informant,
462
00:23:57,537 --> 00:24:00,039
along with his translator,
Filipe,
463
00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:02,108
has arranged to meet them
under the condition
464
00:24:02,141 --> 00:24:04,644
that his identity be protected.
465
00:24:04,677 --> 00:24:06,045
-Nice to meet you.
-Nice to meet you.
466
00:24:09,816 --> 00:24:13,152
We appreciate you taking
some time to come
467
00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:14,887
and speak to us again.
468
00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:18,891
Filipe: It's a pleasure
for me to receive you.
469
00:24:18,925 --> 00:24:20,693
Simpson: Well, it's very
much appreciated.
470
00:24:20,727 --> 00:24:22,795
What can you tell
us specifically
471
00:24:22,829 --> 00:24:24,831
about Walter Rauff
operating in Chile?
472
00:24:28,067 --> 00:24:30,169
These are some of
the last documents
473
00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:34,040
written in Nazi Germany.
474
00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:36,543
How did he get
his hands on these?
475
00:24:36,576 --> 00:24:39,278
A family related to Rauff.
476
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,581
You received these
from his family?
477
00:24:46,318 --> 00:24:48,888
Certainly.
478
00:25:03,335 --> 00:25:05,872
What is this?
479
00:25:16,148 --> 00:25:17,750
Well,
this is the last will,
480
00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:21,754
the last personal will
of Adolf Hitler.
481
00:25:21,788 --> 00:25:23,155
Hitler's last will
and testament.
482
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:28,861
Why are they
here in Chile?
483
00:25:28,895 --> 00:25:31,931
These are, like, microfilm.
484
00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:38,671
And just looking at the first
one, you can see on this,
485
00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:40,973
there's the eagle and swastika
right at the top.
486
00:25:41,007 --> 00:25:43,242
Yep.
487
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:48,681
I don't speak German.
488
00:25:48,715 --> 00:25:51,784
If you can give us
a translation...
489
00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:54,854
Adolf Hitler says that
he wants every German,
490
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:58,758
every man, every woman,
every soldier of Wehrmacht,
491
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:06,298
"Our task is the expansion
of the National Socialist State
492
00:26:06,332 --> 00:26:11,604
and the fight against
the poison of the world,"
493
00:26:11,638 --> 00:26:15,107
as he says, written
and signed in Berlin,
494
00:26:15,141 --> 00:26:18,911
April 29, 1945,
at 4:00.
495
00:26:22,414 --> 00:26:24,684
There it is
in black and white.
496
00:26:24,717 --> 00:26:26,252
Simpson:
Right here before us
497
00:26:26,285 --> 00:26:28,354
are the most important
Nazi documents.
498
00:26:28,387 --> 00:26:30,322
In the age before
computer files,
499
00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:32,859
microfilm was a way
to shrink down documents
500
00:26:32,892 --> 00:26:35,027
and make them easier to carry.
501
00:26:35,061 --> 00:26:37,363
I've long known of the existence
of these documents,
502
00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:40,967
but to see the actual
microfilm, it's chilling.
503
00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:47,273
Narrator:
On April 29, 1945,
504
00:26:47,306 --> 00:26:50,843
the day before he reportedly
committed suicide,
505
00:26:50,877 --> 00:26:52,845
Adolf Hitler called
his secretary
506
00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:55,114
into his office
in the Fuehrerbunker
507
00:26:55,147 --> 00:26:58,184
and asked her to type up
an important document --
508
00:26:58,217 --> 00:27:01,053
his last will and testament.
509
00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:03,723
Reportedly, three copies
of the document
510
00:27:03,756 --> 00:27:06,793
were sent by courier
out of the Fuehrerbunker,
511
00:27:06,826 --> 00:27:09,428
intended for
Hitler's associates.
512
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:12,298
All three copies were
intercepted by the Allies
513
00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:15,735
in the days following.
514
00:27:15,768 --> 00:27:17,436
We've always assumed
that there were only three
515
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,138
because we captured three,
516
00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:23,442
but I'm wondering
is if there were more.
517
00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:26,946
Was there a fourth copy?
518
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:31,150
We might be looking
at it right now.
519
00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:34,053
These documents leave
the Fuehrerbunker
520
00:27:34,086 --> 00:27:35,988
and end up in Chile.
521
00:27:36,022 --> 00:27:36,989
Is that
what you're saying?
522
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:47,700
But this is one of
the highest secrets.
523
00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:55,908
There was one
of the last groups
524
00:27:55,942 --> 00:27:59,011
escaping from
the Hitler bunker.
525
00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:01,147
-It's here for a reason.
-Yeah.
526
00:28:01,180 --> 00:28:02,749
It's not just to have
a copy of it.
527
00:28:02,782 --> 00:28:03,950
Right.
What were they thinking?
528
00:28:03,983 --> 00:28:05,284
What was their mind
529
00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:07,419
Let's bring Adolf Hitler's
ideologies to Chile,
530
00:28:07,453 --> 00:28:10,022
or did Hitler
himself come here?
531
00:28:10,056 --> 00:28:12,191
Huge piece of the puzzle
for us, huh?
532
00:28:12,224 --> 00:28:14,160
It's no coincidence
that these documents,
533
00:28:14,193 --> 00:28:15,962
the last thing Hitler touched
534
00:28:15,995 --> 00:28:18,164
before he reportedly
committed suicide,
535
00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:20,299
traveled the exact same route
536
00:28:20,332 --> 00:28:22,301
that we have used
to track Hitler.
537
00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:25,437
It not only is proof that his
escape route was possible,
538
00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:27,874
but also, for the members
of the Fourth Reich,
539
00:28:27,907 --> 00:28:29,241
these documents would've
been the equivalent
540
00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:30,877
of the Ark of the Covenant.
541
00:28:30,910 --> 00:28:32,211
This would've been
their template,
542
00:28:32,244 --> 00:28:35,081
their way forward
for the Fourth Reich.
543
00:28:35,114 --> 00:28:38,117
For some reason,
Chile was chosen
544
00:28:38,150 --> 00:28:40,286
as the ultimate destination.
545
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,154
This isn't all coincidental.
546
00:28:52,999 --> 00:28:55,534
O0 C1Here's the last words
of Adolf Hitler
547
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:57,837
in the bunker
on the 29th of April.
548
00:28:57,870 --> 00:29:01,974
For some unexplained reason,
shows up in Chile.
549
00:29:02,008 --> 00:29:04,811
Narrator: Bob and Nada review
the findings from Chile
550
00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:07,847
where the team made
a groundbreaking discovery,
551
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,950
a potential photo negative
of a never-before-seen
552
00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:15,554
fourth copy of Adolf Hitler's
last will and testament.
553
00:29:15,587 --> 00:29:17,256
So you can see
the colors, so...
554
00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:20,526
-It's polyester.
-Yeah.
555
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,962
Narrator: The team brought in
a local expert
556
00:29:22,995 --> 00:29:26,132
who was able to confirm the
authenticity of the negative,
557
00:29:26,165 --> 00:29:29,235
dating to the end
of World War II.
558
00:29:29,268 --> 00:29:31,103
I mean, this takes us
back to ground zero,
559
00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:33,973
the last time we know
that Hitler was alive.
560
00:29:34,006 --> 00:29:36,408
After the 29th,
there was still stuff
561
00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:38,177
coming out of the bunker,
562
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:40,046
and this
is evidence of it.
563
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:43,015
What else got
out of the bunker?
564
00:29:43,049 --> 00:29:48,154
Somehow, a copy was smuggled out
from Hitler's hand to Chile,
565
00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:51,123
which tells me Hitler
clearly had a rat line
566
00:29:51,157 --> 00:29:53,359
out of Germany to South America,
567
00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:55,494
and it worked very well.
568
00:29:55,527 --> 00:29:58,330
You're not going to get a more
direct connection than that.
569
00:29:58,364 --> 00:30:01,067
The fact that this was in Chile
and it made its way
570
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,002
out of the bunker
signifies to me
571
00:30:03,035 --> 00:30:05,371
that the network
was alive and well.
572
00:30:05,404 --> 00:30:07,506
They were using this document
to continue
573
00:30:07,539 --> 00:30:09,541
to spread the propaganda.
574
00:30:09,575 --> 00:30:12,311
This isn't just Hitler's
last will and testament.
575
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:15,014
I mean, this was his manifesto.
-Yeah.
576
00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:19,051
If you were going to go make
the Fourth Reich,
577
00:30:19,085 --> 00:30:21,520
you need a bible,
and it's right here.
578
00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:24,323
You can see that the Nazis
were starting to spread
579
00:30:24,356 --> 00:30:26,258
and take root.
580
00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:28,861
Narrator: After a year-long
investigation focused
581
00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:32,498
on deconstructing Adolf Hitler's
network around the globe,
582
00:30:32,531 --> 00:30:35,334
Bob and Nada review
their findings.
583
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:38,905
So I think this network approach
really helped define
584
00:30:38,938 --> 00:30:41,540
and fill in the picture
around Hitler
585
00:30:41,573 --> 00:30:46,212
and narrowed in
on how he could've escaped.
586
00:30:46,245 --> 00:30:47,980
I agree with you.
587
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:50,316
The network approach has,
I mean, has paid off.
588
00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:52,985
Hitler easily could've
gotten out of Europe,
589
00:30:53,019 --> 00:30:55,621
and he easily could've
made it to South America.
590
00:30:55,654 --> 00:30:57,189
And we found
multiple redundancies
591
00:30:57,223 --> 00:30:58,958
in these escape routes.
592
00:30:58,991 --> 00:31:00,326
We found
a strong northern route
593
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:01,894
and a strong southern
route so that,
594
00:31:01,928 --> 00:31:04,463
if one fell, he could
fall back onto the other.
595
00:31:10,169 --> 00:31:13,305
Plane could fly all the way
from Europe into Argentina
596
00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:15,441
where we know there
are a dense population
597
00:31:15,474 --> 00:31:17,376
of high-ranking Nazis.
598
00:31:17,409 --> 00:31:21,113
Not only that,
Hitler had protection
599
00:31:21,147 --> 00:31:23,315
every place
he would've transited.
600
00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,017
Kennedy: Behind that door,
you would find a total
601
00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:26,652
of 3 1/2 miles
of underground tunnels,
602
00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:30,056
400 feet of solid rock
above you right there.
603
00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:32,091
That's enough to stop
a nuclear bomb.
604
00:31:32,124 --> 00:31:35,527
From this one position alone,
you could walk this valley.
605
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:39,465
This is where Adolf Hitler
could stay safe and secure.
606
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:43,535
He had the protection
of fortified compounds,
607
00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:46,138
and he had the protection
of world leaders
608
00:31:46,172 --> 00:31:49,575
from Franco, Perón,
Stroessner, the Vatican.
609
00:31:49,608 --> 00:31:52,478
Woman: There is documentatn
the priests at the time
610
00:31:52,511 --> 00:31:55,314
would rebaptize Nazis
fleeing through the area.
611
00:31:55,347 --> 00:31:57,349
This is where
they were born again
612
00:31:57,383 --> 00:31:59,418
and assumed
a new identity.
613
00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:01,320
And it's not just
the political-leader support.
614
00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:04,056
He's got support of all
these loyal associates
615
00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:06,225
to help him
establish safe haven
616
00:32:06,258 --> 00:32:09,461
and setting up clear plans
for him to escape.
617
00:32:09,495 --> 00:32:10,562
Kaltenbrunner is up here
kind of waiting
618
00:32:10,596 --> 00:32:11,730
to be the fall guy.
619
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,200
Meanwhile, everyone else,
620
00:32:14,233 --> 00:32:16,635
including possibly
Adolf Hitler himself,
621
00:32:16,668 --> 00:32:20,106
is using all these better
routes to get out of here.
622
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:22,174
It's a ship manifesto.
623
00:32:22,208 --> 00:32:24,110
Last name on the list --
624
00:32:24,143 --> 00:32:28,014
Joseph Mengele,
Auschwitz's Angel of Death.
625
00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:30,416
You look
at the infrastructure.
626
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,684
You look at the assets
he had available.
627
00:32:32,718 --> 00:32:39,625
There has never been an escape
network of this size
628
00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:42,328
ever that I know of
in history.
629
00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:43,729
It's amazing.
630
00:32:43,762 --> 00:32:46,732
Using asset mapping,
I'm more confident than ever
631
00:32:46,765 --> 00:32:49,068
that he could've made it
to South America
632
00:32:49,101 --> 00:32:53,472
and lived out his life
and led the Fourth Reich,
633
00:32:53,505 --> 00:32:58,510
but beyond that, the evidence
all points to one route.
634
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:01,213
Baer: I'm pretty certain
635
00:33:01,247 --> 00:33:05,417
I know the exact route
Adolf Hitler took
636
00:33:05,451 --> 00:33:10,089
when he left Germany
and exactly where he ended up.
637
00:33:10,122 --> 00:33:13,292
Now, I believe that
this evidence we have
638
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:16,395
of Hitler's route out
639
00:33:16,428 --> 00:33:19,165
is good enough to have
somebody on the outside
640
00:33:19,198 --> 00:33:20,366
to take a look at it.
641
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,734
We spent three years
pressure-testing
642
00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:24,570
the unclassified documents
643
00:33:24,603 --> 00:33:26,472
and all
these Nazi facilities.
644
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,507
Now it's time
to have somebody
645
00:33:28,540 --> 00:33:30,642
pressure-test
our investigation.
646
00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:35,181
We never expected
a Hollywood ending to this.
647
00:33:35,214 --> 00:33:39,185
There was going to be no finding
Adolf Hitler in his uniform,
648
00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:41,253
putting him in jail for life,
649
00:33:41,287 --> 00:33:45,057
but what we wanted to get at
was find enough evidence
650
00:33:45,091 --> 00:33:48,160
that you could put it in front
of a jury and get a conviction.
651
00:33:48,194 --> 00:33:50,096
Only, it wouldn't
be a conviction.
652
00:33:50,129 --> 00:33:53,665
It would be, yeah, the guy got
away, or he didn't get away.
653
00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:56,768
It's the only way we can
bring this to closure,
654
00:33:56,802 --> 00:34:00,506
and to do that, we have to put
this evidence to the test.
655
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:03,675
In my mind, there's only
one thing left to do.
656
00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:07,146
I want to take it
outside of this room
657
00:34:07,179 --> 00:34:09,315
and take it to the FBI.
658
00:34:09,348 --> 00:34:12,751
I want to know if we have
evidence hard enough
659
00:34:12,784 --> 00:34:16,155
to say we think
this guy got away.
660
00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:20,326
In the CIA,
we gather evidence,
661
00:34:20,359 --> 00:34:24,096
and the FBI is
a law-enforcement organization.
662
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:26,565
Intelligence agencies
collect intelligence
663
00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:28,567
and give it to the FBI
664
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,604
to decide whether they have
enough evidence to pursue it.
665
00:34:32,638 --> 00:34:34,306
From an intelligence
perspective,
666
00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:35,574
this is the way it's done,
667
00:34:35,607 --> 00:34:37,376
and this is what we're doing.
668
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,511
We have evidence
that he got out.
669
00:34:39,545 --> 00:34:41,380
We have evidence
of a route.
670
00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:43,515
We are ready
to prove our case.
671
00:34:43,549 --> 00:34:47,453
We have been working around
the clock for three years.
672
00:34:47,486 --> 00:34:50,689
We've had dozens and dozens
of people on the ground.
673
00:34:50,722 --> 00:34:53,159
We have followed up
every lead...
674
00:34:53,192 --> 00:34:55,561
-Wow.
-...on Hitler's disappearance,
675
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:57,663
and I think we've
finally put together
676
00:34:57,696 --> 00:35:00,166
this thread of the escape route,
677
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,235
and now I need to know
whether I'm right or wrong.
678
00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:16,682
O0 C1
Narrator: After a 3-year-long
investigation
679
00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:19,185
to uncover the true fate
of Adolf Hitler
680
00:35:19,218 --> 00:35:21,553
at the end of World War II,
681
00:35:21,587 --> 00:35:26,358
CIA veteran Bob Baer has decided
to put his theory to the test
682
00:35:26,392 --> 00:35:28,627
by presenting his evidence
to one of the nation's
683
00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:30,729
most seasoned man hunters,
684
00:35:30,762 --> 00:35:33,632
retired FBI agent Bobby Chacon.
685
00:35:35,801 --> 00:35:38,337
-Good. Thanks.
686
00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:40,739
Baer: Going to the FBI
is the way it's done.
687
00:35:40,772 --> 00:35:43,409
Intelligence agencies
collect intelligence
688
00:35:43,442 --> 00:35:45,411
and give it to the FBI
689
00:35:45,444 --> 00:35:48,314
to decide whether they
have enough evidence
690
00:35:48,347 --> 00:35:50,582
to arrest somebody.
691
00:35:50,616 --> 00:35:54,253
Let me start out by telling
you where I'm coming from.
692
00:35:54,286 --> 00:35:57,823
We started
with 700 FBI reports.
693
00:35:57,856 --> 00:36:00,959
We expanded it
to intelligence services
694
00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:02,861
all around the world.
695
00:36:02,894 --> 00:36:06,265
After three years of doing
this investigation,
696
00:36:06,298 --> 00:36:09,401
I'm convinced Hitler
could've gotten out.
697
00:36:09,435 --> 00:36:12,604
I think we found a route.
698
00:36:12,638 --> 00:36:14,506
So I think
this is explosive,
699
00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:15,907
but I've always
been reluctant
700
00:36:15,941 --> 00:36:17,576
to take this
outside of the room
701
00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:19,645
because you know
as well as I do,
702
00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,680
we were verging on
conspiracy theory.
703
00:36:21,713 --> 00:36:24,416
Right. Well, let's look
at what you've got.
704
00:36:24,450 --> 00:36:26,452
Let's look at what's
come up with,
705
00:36:26,485 --> 00:36:27,686
and we can go from there.
706
00:36:32,258 --> 00:36:34,326
The escape route starts
707
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,496
in Berlin
at his Fuehrerbunker.
708
00:36:37,529 --> 00:36:40,432
There are multiple exits
out of this bunker,
709
00:36:40,466 --> 00:36:44,736
but we found an exit
that was previously unknown,
710
00:36:44,770 --> 00:36:46,372
the fifth exit.
711
00:36:46,405 --> 00:36:50,242
Recently, I found an exit
into a new tunnel
712
00:36:50,276 --> 00:36:52,444
very close to the bunker.
713
00:36:52,478 --> 00:36:53,679
Kennedy:
Are you kidding me?
714
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:55,314
Now Hitler has got
another way out.
715
00:36:55,347 --> 00:36:58,284
Hitler could've gotten out
using a tunnel
716
00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:00,252
leading to a makeshift runway
717
00:37:00,286 --> 00:37:02,721
where we have
authenticated documents
718
00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:05,524
corroborating the evidence.
719
00:37:05,557 --> 00:37:08,494
DePaul: Boom, he's on this
makeshift runway, and he's gone.
720
00:37:08,527 --> 00:37:11,563
I've spent a career
doing exfiltrations,
721
00:37:11,597 --> 00:37:12,698
and that's the way
I would do it.
722
00:37:12,731 --> 00:37:14,633
It's a brilliant plan.
723
00:37:14,666 --> 00:37:18,537
So you have a smaller plane
possibly taking him where?
724
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:19,905
From Berlin,
725
00:37:19,938 --> 00:37:23,442
he takes a short flight
to a secure location,
726
00:37:23,475 --> 00:37:25,577
Hohenlychen, Germany.
727
00:37:25,611 --> 00:37:27,879
DePaul: Look at the size
of this massive structure.
728
00:37:27,913 --> 00:37:30,449
Williams: This is the size
of a small town.
729
00:37:30,482 --> 00:37:34,453
Hohenlychen at this point
is not going to be bombed
730
00:37:34,486 --> 00:37:36,455
because it's a hospital,
731
00:37:36,488 --> 00:37:40,025
so putting Hitler there
is a smart move.
732
00:37:40,058 --> 00:37:43,429
Baer: And then we have
eyewitnesses and documents
733
00:37:43,462 --> 00:37:47,065
putting Hitler in
the same place, Hohenlychen.
734
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:48,567
Teresa:
Hitler came to visit
735
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,469
when she was working
there in Hohenlychen,
736
00:37:50,502 --> 00:37:52,738
and she had to
take off Hitler's coat.
737
00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:55,073
He was here
more than once.
738
00:37:55,106 --> 00:37:56,908
But by this point
in the war,
739
00:37:56,942 --> 00:38:00,078
there's no way that Germany
is not going to completely fall,
740
00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:04,683
so what he has to do
is find a friendly country.
741
00:38:04,716 --> 00:38:06,985
Where do we go next?
742
00:38:07,018 --> 00:38:09,655
You look at Norway.
743
00:38:09,688 --> 00:38:11,790
Norway is a place
controlled by Nazis,
744
00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:13,692
and that's all you
need to know because,
745
00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:17,796
every time we have a potential
to put Hitler in a country,
746
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:21,467
the central government is
in the control of pro-Nazis.
747
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,769
Kennedy: On the southern
tip of Norway,
748
00:38:23,802 --> 00:38:25,704
we have these
lining the coasts.
749
00:38:25,737 --> 00:38:26,872
You have a choke point.
750
00:38:26,905 --> 00:38:28,640
Nobody can get in and out,
751
00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:32,077
so what we're talking, 1945,
after the fall of Berlin,
752
00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:34,413
so what are they
protecting here?
753
00:38:34,446 --> 00:38:37,716
Baer: Narvik served
as headquarters
754
00:38:37,749 --> 00:38:41,687
for the command of all U-boats
in Norway.
755
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,456
Narvik was bombed
as late as May 4th.
756
00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:45,791
Mm.
757
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:47,559
We cannot figure out
why it was bombed.
758
00:38:47,593 --> 00:38:49,928
There's no record.
759
00:38:49,961 --> 00:38:51,830
I mean, the war is over.
760
00:38:51,863 --> 00:38:54,833
I mean, supposedly,
Hitler is dead.
761
00:38:54,866 --> 00:38:57,102
Think they somehow had
word he might be there?
762
00:38:57,135 --> 00:38:58,637
And I don't like to jump
to conclusions,
763
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:01,440
but you have to wonder.
764
00:39:01,473 --> 00:39:04,943
We dove where the Allies
bombed on May 4th.
765
00:39:04,976 --> 00:39:09,481
We find a U-boat
and a seaplane side by side.
766
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:20,692
And then we find a document
saying the Nazis
767
00:39:20,726 --> 00:39:22,494
are refueling seaplanes
768
00:39:22,528 --> 00:39:24,162
in the middle of
the ocean with U-boats.
769
00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:26,732
These U-boats are serving
as mobile gas stations
770
00:39:26,765 --> 00:39:28,634
in the middle
of the Atlantic.
771
00:39:28,667 --> 00:39:31,870
That solves the problem
of Hitler easily
772
00:39:31,903 --> 00:39:35,774
and quickly getting
to South America.
773
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:39,978
So he gets to South America,
and where does he go?
774
00:39:40,011 --> 00:39:42,548
Where does he feel safe?
775
00:39:42,581 --> 00:39:44,650
And this is my favorite
part of the story
776
00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:46,785
is a compound
called Misiones.
777
00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:53,459
Misiones is the crown
jewel in this plan.
778
00:39:53,492 --> 00:39:59,130
You've got a Nazi compound
in the middle of nowhere...
779
00:39:59,164 --> 00:40:03,168
Kennedy: This feels like
military barracks.
780
00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:06,872
...evidence of troops
being up there, guard shacks.
781
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:09,608
Plus he's got the political
protection of Juan Perón,
782
00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,610
the president
of Argentina.
783
00:40:11,643 --> 00:40:13,612
Have you ever seen
in your career
784
00:40:13,645 --> 00:40:15,180
a compound like this ever?
785
00:40:15,213 --> 00:40:17,549
Never.
786
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:20,752
The person
that resided here
787
00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:23,154
didn't want to be seen.
788
00:40:23,188 --> 00:40:25,791
But that's not the end
of the story.
789
00:40:25,824 --> 00:40:27,959
Perón falls in '55,
790
00:40:27,993 --> 00:40:31,530
and suddenly,
your compound is put in peril.
791
00:40:31,563 --> 00:40:33,565
Where do you go?
792
00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:35,200
You go to Paraguay.
793
00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:41,573
We've got Stroessner,
who's in charge of Paraguay,
794
00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:44,543
and he was an open Nazi.
795
00:40:44,576 --> 00:40:46,878
He's in power until '89,
796
00:40:46,912 --> 00:40:50,048
way beyond the natural life
of Adolf Hitler.
797
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:52,951
In Paraguay,
we find Misiones 2.0,
798
00:40:52,984 --> 00:40:56,855
another Nazi compound
called Salto Suizo.
799
00:40:56,888 --> 00:40:58,890
It's isolated.
800
00:40:58,924 --> 00:41:01,860
It's got approaches
that can be guarded.
801
00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:03,829
This could be a perfect spot
for an ambush.
802
00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:07,232
It's got buildings
that look like guard shacks.
803
00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:10,068
Hitler could've been
safe there forever.
804
00:41:10,101 --> 00:41:14,039
This is the final piece
of the puzzle.
805
00:41:14,072 --> 00:41:15,974
I think this is explosive.
806
00:41:16,007 --> 00:41:19,177
Like I said, I didn't think
this was even conceivable,
807
00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:21,880
but I do believe now
808
00:41:21,913 --> 00:41:24,249
that he could've gotten out
of the bunker
809
00:41:24,282 --> 00:41:25,784
in the last days.
810
00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:27,653
He could've been
put on a seaplane,
811
00:41:27,686 --> 00:41:29,655
and he could've been
taken to South America.
812
00:41:32,558 --> 00:41:33,725
What do you think?
813
00:41:33,759 --> 00:41:43,802
**
814
00:41:43,835 --> 00:41:50,742
**
815
00:41:50,776 --> 00:41:53,645
I'm impressed.
816
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,114
I've worked cases that
have been cold a long time,
817
00:41:56,147 --> 00:41:57,983
and what you've done here
818
00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:00,752
is you completely
revived the case.
819
00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:04,055
This is no longer
a cold case.
820
00:42:04,089 --> 00:42:06,157
To me,
these are hot leads,
821
00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:08,660
and you're right
on his trail.
822
00:42:08,694 --> 00:42:11,630
I've chased a lot of fugitives
in my career,
823
00:42:11,663 --> 00:42:13,765
and ultimately,
I caught them
824
00:42:13,799 --> 00:42:16,568
with less of a trail
than you have here.
825
00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:18,770
If we were sitting here
three years after the war
826
00:42:18,804 --> 00:42:20,772
in a time frame
where Hitler was still alive
827
00:42:20,806 --> 00:42:22,040
and you presented me
with all the work
828
00:42:22,073 --> 00:42:24,242
that your team
has done on this case,
829
00:42:24,275 --> 00:42:27,345
I would get a team
of FBI agents ready
830
00:42:27,378 --> 00:42:30,916
to travel to South America
and go get the guy.
831
00:42:30,949 --> 00:42:33,218
What you had
to say I suspected
832
00:42:33,251 --> 00:42:34,953
but was sort of
afraid to say it.
833
00:42:34,986 --> 00:42:36,354
You know, it's great.
I love it.
834
00:42:36,387 --> 00:42:38,089
I love it.
835
00:42:38,123 --> 00:42:41,292
We have officially shot
down the narrative
836
00:42:41,326 --> 00:42:43,829
that Hitler died in the bunker.
837
00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:48,900
It's simply a historical bias
that people live with.
838
00:42:48,934 --> 00:42:51,069
It's lies we like
to tell ourselves
839
00:42:51,102 --> 00:42:52,838
to make us feel better.
840
00:42:52,871 --> 00:42:55,807
You always doubt
the official narrative,
841
00:42:55,841 --> 00:43:00,045
and I think we've blown holes
in this thing from "A" to "Z,"
842
00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:02,914
but this case is
by no means closed.
843
00:43:02,948 --> 00:43:04,883
Find me a body.
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