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[man] Right here, sir.
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All right, guys, we're up.
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Camera speeding.
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- [man] Is that us?
- [man 2] Yeah.
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Can we hold the noise down?
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- [man 3] Quiet please.
- [man 4] Rolling.
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What's this about?
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[Reginald Hudlin] It's for a documentary
called Number One on the Call Sheet.
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[Hudlin, narrating]
There's a lot of great Black actors
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who are tremendous pioneers
in this business.
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[Hudlin] We have you and people like you
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who are for real movie stars
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{\an8}at the top of the food chain in Hollywood.
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{\an8}What's it like to actually, you know,
have artistic success,
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{\an8}to have financial success,
to exist in this town?
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{\an8}[laughs]
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That's a big question, I--
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- You know--
- [Hudlin] Yeah.
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Was that a question
or that's the overall--
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- That was the answer.
- Oh, that was answering my question.
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- Okay.
- We'll do it a bit at a time.
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Okay, thank you. Thank you.
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["Superstar" by Lupe Fiasco playing]
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[man] On my mark.
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[Don Cheadle]
"Number one on the call sheet."
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What does it mean?
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I think it means a lot of stuff.
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Number one on the call sheet means to me
they look to you to lead by example.
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Number one on the call sheet?
Yeah, you that guy. Know what I mean?
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{\an8}That's kind of like
hitting the lottery in a way.
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{\an8}It's incredibly humbling. It's empowering.
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{\an8}[crowd cheering]
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{\an8}You're the franchise player.
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{\an8}It means we made it.
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"Number one on the call sheet."
You actually don't hear that phrase a lot.
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It just says it on the call sheet:
"Number one."
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You see your name and it's…
it's a magic moment for most actors.
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[Hudlin] When you work on a movie set,
a call sheet is what you get
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that explains the work
that you're gonna do the next day.
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It's something that every production has.
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It's not just the actors,
but the crew and everybody.
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The entire production.
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[Michael B. Jordan] You know,
you get that call sheet,
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and it was a testament,
you know what I'm saying?
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"Where you at?"
You're constantly ranking yourself.
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[Idris Elba] When you're, like, number 56,
and your character doesn't have a name.
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And you're just, you know, "Man."
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You kind of slowly saw your name move up,
from, you know, 12, 13, on up.
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[Elba] When I got to a stage where
I became number one on the call sheet,
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it's an accomplishment,
it's a status thing.
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And it's a pride, you know, it's like,
"Yeah, I'm number one."
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There's a scene in Apocalypse Now
that got cut from the original film,
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{\an8}and then it's been put back in the Redux.
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{\an8}I was, you know,
I guess I was 14, 15, whatever.
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{\an8}Trying to do this scene, talking about,
you know, really… sex.
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And I had no sexual experience.
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Like, none.
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And Francis Coppola
couldn't figure out how to get me to…
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be any more experienced than I am.
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But he kept asking me to do it
over and over again.
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I did something like 40 takes.
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It was really bad.
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And I could tell that he was disappointed.
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So I was feeling really, really down.
Really dejected.
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You know, I was just… [inhales]
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And I heard Martin whisper in my ear…
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{\an8}He said…
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{\an8}"Did anyone ever tell you
you were a really good actor?"
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And I said, "No."
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He said, "You're a really good actor."
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That's what being number one
on the call sheet is about for me.
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Saved my life.
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People often ask me,
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"How'd you become a writer,
producer, actor…
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You know, you directed, comedian…
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How have you done all that?"
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And I say, "Out of necessity."
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Why did we eat pig feet back in the day?
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Cause we wasn't getting steak.
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And we had to make them pig guts
and them pig feet taste phenomenal.
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[laughs]
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So that's what we do, brother.
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We know very well that it's all about
what's happening in the rearview mirror.
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Hollywood is very much
about what just worked,
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not about "Let's take a chance
on what might work."
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We go through these periods
of time where there's an enlightenment…
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Obama gets elected, or George Floyd,
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something happens where people go, like,
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"Oh, wait we need to open up
the lens a little bit,
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and like, bring more voices in
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and, like, actually try
to investigate different stories
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that, you know, people
who haven't been centered--
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let's center these people," and then it…
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[chuckling] People forget about it
and it goes back the way it was.
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You can be fooled
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and think we've had
more success than we've had.
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You can go to the movie theaters
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and you can see a lot of movie stars
and a lot of movies, uh,
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starring great, diverse talent,
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but when you drill into
who are making the decisions
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on what's getting green-lit,
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that really has not changed much at all.
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Early on, I didn't know
how many opportunities I would have
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to be first on the call sheet.
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So I think about my grandmother
picking cotton,
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think about my grandfather,
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I think about all of my family,
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what they had to do
in order for me to be in this position.
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We're just… we're entertaining, man.
We're out here doing it.
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And that's because
those doors have been…
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[voice strained] …cracked open.
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The actors of now,
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we don't get here without your Denzels,
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your Morgans, your Sams,
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your Wesleys, Keenens,
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your Martins, your fucking Eddies,
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Richard, Sidney…
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The list isn't as long as you think.
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[laughing] Man, that tickles.
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You some harmonica player.
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Oh, stop crowing, man.
There's nothing to celebrate.
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Sidney Poitier. The first Avenger.
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That's how I feel.
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You know what I mean,
came in here and just
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opened a whole entire perspective for us.
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Which is bigger than film.
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It's an idea.
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And when that idea transcends over years,
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and you see Denzel Washington
pick up his Oscar and say,
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"Sidney, I'll always be chasing you,
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I'll always be following
in your footsteps…"
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{\an8}Forty years I've been chasing Sidney,
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{\an8}they finally give it to me
and what do they do?
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{\an8}They give it to him same night.
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[laughter, applause]
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I'll always be chasing you, Sidney.
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I'll always be following
in your footsteps.
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[Boyega] It inspires you in a way
that you could have never thought of
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and for me, Sidney Poitier
always represents that,
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and represents legacy.
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There were guys before him
that he'll talk about.
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{\an8}James Edwards, Canada Lee,
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{\an8}Paul Robeson, Hattie McDaniel…
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{\an8}Great actors.
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That's why when you
look at Sidney Poitier, God bless,
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how amazing to be able to crack that code
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at a time where we couldn't even sit
in certain places in a restaurant.
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{\an8}There was civil unrest…
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{\an8}And I remember watching
this interview where Sidney says,
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[mimicking Poitier]
"I was always taught… that…
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I was worth more.
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We didn't have money.
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But I was taught…
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that I was worth… more."
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So to see him crack the code,
you go, "Ooh."
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Now that we know what that code is,
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we go, "Oh, shit,
he was not fucking around then."
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{\an8}Why'd you two come here?
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{\an8}Your attitudes, Mr. Endicott,
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{\an8}your points of view,
are a matter of record.
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You know, Sidney,
when that white man slapped him…
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[grunts]
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[Foxx] …and he slapped
that white man back so quick,
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what was crazy about that,
when you see that happen,
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Black people didn't even
get enough time to be mad,
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'cause he slapped him so fast.
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"Oh, man-- Ohh, shit!"
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[laughing]
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[mimics two slaps] It was like ping-pong.
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[mimics slap]
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I said, "If he slaps me,
I'm going to slap him back.
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You will put on paper…"
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- [light gasp]
- "…that the studio agrees
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that the film will be shown nowhere
in the world
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with me standing there, taking the slap."
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God, you had this written
into the contract?
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That's right.
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[Nina Shaw] Actors like Sidney Poitier,
Sammy Davis, Jr.,
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and Harry Belafonte realized that,
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they had to advocate for social justice
as part of what they did.
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They were potentially risking
losing their careers
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by being too vocal about civil rights.
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{\an8}[Jordan] I think one of
the biggest difference between the OGs
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{\an8}and our generation,
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is the level of struggle and fight
that they had to go through
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in order to have the success
that they had at that moment.
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The racism which permeates
American life from top to bottom
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in very subtle ways and
in very aggressive, obvious ways,
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the Negroes paid
a terrible price for this.
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If the generations before me
hadn't been honest about certain things.
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I wouldn't enjoy
a certain level of comfort.
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You know when they say,
"They opened the doors?"
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That stuff is literal.
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There's a whole different set
of circumstances
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when it comes to white actors
and actresses and what they deal with.
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With us, since it's not that many,
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this business can overcomplicate it.
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You know, as a Black man, this position…
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it goes away if you make one mistake.
You know what I mean, like,
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the intensity of the responsibility
of that position
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sometimes is a double-edged sword.
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The patience attached to white talent,
the longevity in it,
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is a lot longer than the patience
attached to Black talent.
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They go,
"It's all on you if it doesn't work."
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Somebody's gotta take the blame.
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Are Black men and Black women
getting the roles
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that they should get
in the theater, on television?
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Are we making progress?
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{\an8}I don't know. I feel that, um…
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{\an8}we have a real major problem
in the industry.
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Totally.
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So where is the problem?
It's not the general public.
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The general public
doesn't have that problem.
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Who's got the problem?
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The problem has to do with the producers
and their own fears
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that this is not what the general public
is gonna wanna see.
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General public wants to see a talent.
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{\an8}They wanna see someone talented.
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When you look at the '70s, to think…
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that Cleavon Little can be the star
in Blazing Saddles,
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the biggest movie of the year,
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and in the course of four years,
can't get another leading man role?
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He had to go back to Broadway.
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How do you star in Blazing Saddles
and not get one movie offer as a lead?
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I don't have an answer to that
other than racism.
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Entertainment business likes to pick
the one, when it comes to Black people.
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You're the one for this era.
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And you have to represent
all of Black people.
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But if you look at
the history of Black cinema,
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there's been times where
that cycle of the one has been broken.
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["Hollywood Swinging"
by Kool & the Gang playing]
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[gunshot]
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But in the 1970s, you see an explosion
of Black self-expression.
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Shaft, Super Fly, Foxy Brown…
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They really wanted to reflect the politics
and the culture of the time,
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which was Black folks
were tired of taking low.
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Dolemite is my name,
and fucking up motherfuckers is my game.
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[Hudlin] But those stars found a ceiling.
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So then as we shift
from the '70s to the '80s,
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two major Black stars emerged.
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Eddie Murphy and Prince.
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Prince was such a big music star
that he started making his own movies.
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The winner is Prince for Purple Rain.
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And as big as he was,
Eddie Murphy was even bigger.
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{\an8}[singing "Roxanne" by The Police]
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{\an8}- [continues singing falsetto]
- Is that him?
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- Hammond!
- [continues singing]
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- Hammond!
- [feedback squeals]
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Early on, Sidney said--
I didn't know if it was an insult
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or a compliment, or something.
It was like…
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They were talking about doing Malcolm X.
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Norman Jewison was putting it together,
and they were gonna use
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The Autobiography of Malcolm X
by Alex Haley.
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And they approached me
about playing Alex Haley.
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And some-kind-of-where
around that same time
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I bumped into Sidney Poitier at something.
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And I asked him, "Yeah, I'm thinking about
playing Alex Haley."
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And Sidney Poitier said, uh,
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[mimics Poitier] "You are not Denzel,
and you are not Morgan.
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You are a breath of fresh air.
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And don't fuck with that."
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And I was like, "What?"
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[laughing]
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I'm Axel Foley,
Beverly Hills building inspector.
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{\an8}I can see. I can see!
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Hey, hey, hey!
What's happening, everybody?
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[hooting laughter]
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I would say Eddie Murphy is the person
I have emulated most in my life.
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I would say I know more words
that Eddie Murphy said than anybody.
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When I started my career,
Eddie was what I was shooting for.
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I told my team, I wanted to be
Eddie Murphy in Star Wars.
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Those were the kind of scripts
that I wanted.
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To me, Independence Day was my attempt
to be Eddie Murphy in Star Wars.
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Men In Black was my attempt
to be Eddie Murphy in Star Wars.
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I make this look good.
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He was the biggest impact on me
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as an actor and an entertainer.
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{\an8}Good morning, my neighbors!
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{\an8}[man] Hey, fuck you!
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{\an8}Yes! Yes!
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Fuck you, too!
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Eddie was one of my, what you could say,
idols that I looked up to, so to speak.
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He was the reason why I was in comedy,
you know, him and Richard Pryor.
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So to get the opportunity
to work with him.
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You can imagine how happy I was.
286
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I knew that was a big blessing.
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And then to see how sharp he was,
and how quick he was.
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Just a comedic genius.
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{\an8}And if you try to take my cornbread,
part two of my killing spree
290
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{\an8}gonna begin up in here
on your ass right now.
291
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You fuck around with me, there's gonna be
consequences and repercussions.
292
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- [grunts]
- [prisoners groaning]
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Get up!
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I got successful really, really young.
295
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I kind of wasn't surprised
because really early on
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I just kinda knew I was gonna be fa--
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I started, when I'm around 16, I'm going,
"I'm gonna be famous."
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I wanna get…
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{\an8}I would say famous by the time I'm 21.
300
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{\an8}I'm 19 now. I give myself two years.
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When I was 19, I got Saturday Night Live,
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and things just started happening.
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{\an8}- Should I get in the hot tub?
- Yeah!
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{\an8}- Will it make me sweat?
- Yeah!
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{\an8}- Should I get in the hot tub?
- Yeah!
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{\an8}- Will it make me wet?
- Yeah!
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- Here I go in the hot tub.
- [band playing funk tune]
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[mimics James Brown scream]
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♪ Too hot in the hot tub! ♪
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♪ Burn myself ♪
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I didn't go through all of the stuff
that a lot of actors--
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I didn't go through auditions.
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I had one audition my whole life.
314
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I think I'm the only actor
that could say that.
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I had one audition.
It was for Saturday Night Live.
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- [Paul Reubens] Eddie Murphy!
- [cheering]
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Eddie, baby!
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It's as close as you can get to,
you know, overnight success.
319
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'Cause I'm on SNL,
when I'm 18, 19 years old.
320
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I did 48 Hrs. I turned 21 on that movie.
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Beverly Hills Cop,
Trading Places, and 48 Hrs…
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And Delirious is there, too.
323
00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:48,217
That's all within the same
two, three year period.
324
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It's that boom, boom, boom, boom,
back to back to back shit.
325
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I remember once… [chuckles]
…at Saturday Night Live,
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Larry Holmes was there for something.
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And the producer said, "Hey, you know,
go down there and talk to Eddie.
328
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You know, he's making a lot of money.
Give him some advice."
329
00:17:03,941 --> 00:17:07,027
And Larry Holmes just came
to my dressing room, and said,
330
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[deep voice]
"Don't forget where you came from."
331
00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:11,406
And I was like,
"All right, nigga, what's up?"
332
00:17:11,490 --> 00:17:13,867
What's this nigga talking-- [laughs]
333
00:17:13,951 --> 00:17:15,868
And James Brown told me to…
334
00:17:15,953 --> 00:17:18,079
He asked--
he told me I should stop cursing.
335
00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:20,874
{\an8}He said, "If you wanna be
in this business for a long time,
336
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{\an8}you should stop that cursing."
337
00:17:22,917 --> 00:17:25,002
{\an8}And he said,
"You think you got a million dollars?"
338
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I said, "Yeah I do." He said,
"You ain't got no million dollars."
339
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He said, "If you do got a million dollars,
you take it and you bury it in the woods."
340
00:17:32,135 --> 00:17:33,887
And I said,
"Why bury my money in the woods?"
341
00:17:33,971 --> 00:17:37,933
He said, "The government will take it
from you. So bury it."
342
00:17:38,016 --> 00:17:40,352
And I was like, "But can't
the government take your land?"
343
00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:42,855
And he said, "But they won't know
where the money is."
344
00:17:42,938 --> 00:17:46,650
That's a true story.
That's the kind of advice I used to get.
345
00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:49,903
We didn't have a lot of elders,
you know, you could-- [laughs]
346
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- [laughter]
- [man] Whoo!
347
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I was in uncharted waters.
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00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:56,785
For Sidney and all those guys,
349
00:17:56,869 --> 00:17:59,621
when I showed up,
it was something kind of new.
350
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They didn't have a reference for me,
they couldn't give me advice,
351
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'cause I was 20, 21 years old
352
00:18:05,127 --> 00:18:08,005
and my audience was the mainstream,
all everywhere.
353
00:18:08,088 --> 00:18:10,090
Like, my movies all around the world, and
354
00:18:10,174 --> 00:18:12,593
they had never had that
with a young Black person,
355
00:18:12,676 --> 00:18:15,512
so nobody could give me advice, really.
356
00:18:15,596 --> 00:18:17,931
Everything broke really big, really fast.
357
00:18:18,015 --> 00:18:19,391
I remember once… [chuckles]
358
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21 years old.
Marlon Brando calls my agent.
359
00:18:23,604 --> 00:18:26,231
"Hey, I wanna have lunch with this kid."
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00:18:26,315 --> 00:18:28,692
And that was a trip.
361
00:18:29,651 --> 00:18:32,654
{\an8}He saw 48 Hrs., and he said,
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00:18:32,738 --> 00:18:37,075
[mimics Brando] "When you said,
'I'm your worst nightmare…'"
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You know what I am?
I'm your worst fucking nightmare, man.
364
00:18:40,662 --> 00:18:43,290
"'I'm a nigger with a badge…'"
365
00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:45,042
I'm a nigger with a badge.
That means I got permission
366
00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,503
to kick your fucking ass
whenever I feel like it.
367
00:18:47,586 --> 00:18:50,506
"'That means I've got permission
to come in here
368
00:18:50,589 --> 00:18:54,885
and kick your fucking ass,
whenever I want to.'
369
00:18:54,968 --> 00:18:56,720
That's when you became a star."
370
00:18:56,803 --> 00:19:00,432
And I was like,
"Goddamn, Marlon Brando. Shit!"
371
00:19:00,516 --> 00:19:02,059
[laughing]
372
00:19:02,142 --> 00:19:04,394
"Was I doing the shit like that,
Marlon Brando?"
373
00:19:05,938 --> 00:19:07,856
{\an8}[Hudlin] After the success of House Party,
374
00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:11,276
{\an8}we got a phone call
from Eddie Murphy's office.
375
00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,112
He wanted to talk to us
about making a movie together.
376
00:19:14,196 --> 00:19:16,240
So suddenly for my second movie,
377
00:19:16,323 --> 00:19:19,368
I'm working with the biggest
movie star in the world.
378
00:19:19,785 --> 00:19:21,954
He sends this script called Boomerang.
379
00:19:22,037 --> 00:19:24,331
{\an8}And it's a romantic comedy.
380
00:19:24,706 --> 00:19:27,125
{\an8}And I read it and I knew immediately
381
00:19:27,209 --> 00:19:28,794
that was the right story to tell
382
00:19:28,877 --> 00:19:33,048
because Black audiences really
hadn't had a romantic comedy like this.
383
00:19:33,131 --> 00:19:34,925
{\an8}That was the side of Black life
384
00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:37,678
{\an8}that wasn't about suffering or about pain.
385
00:19:37,761 --> 00:19:39,805
{\an8}We were leading successful lives
386
00:19:39,888 --> 00:19:42,266
without worrying about
where white people were.
387
00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:43,684
They weren't in charge of anything.
388
00:19:43,767 --> 00:19:45,686
They worked at a Black company.
389
00:19:45,769 --> 00:19:48,272
They were living their happy Black lives.
390
00:19:48,772 --> 00:19:50,691
It was their first kind of movie
like that.
391
00:19:50,774 --> 00:19:53,110
It's the first movie
with young Black people
392
00:19:53,193 --> 00:19:56,905
looking like that,
the first Gen X with Black folks,
393
00:19:56,989 --> 00:19:58,907
a romantic comedy.
394
00:19:58,991 --> 00:20:01,910
Often, when you talk
about making a political movie,
395
00:20:01,994 --> 00:20:04,955
you think about making
a film like The Battle of Algiers
396
00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:07,499
about revolution in Africa.
397
00:20:08,041 --> 00:20:11,545
But sometimes, the most
revolutionary story you can tell
398
00:20:11,628 --> 00:20:15,257
is a story about everyday,
normal Black life.
399
00:20:15,340 --> 00:20:17,509
{\an8}This is from the LA Times,
this reviewer says…
400
00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:21,138
{\an8}it says, "The most intriguing aspect
of Boomerang, turns out,
401
00:20:21,221 --> 00:20:23,348
{\an8}not its story,
but its racial composition."
402
00:20:23,432 --> 00:20:26,018
It says, "This takes pains
to create a reverse world
403
00:20:26,101 --> 00:20:28,353
from which white people are invisible."
404
00:20:28,437 --> 00:20:31,523
Oh, yeah, this cat
in the LA Times is tripping
405
00:20:31,607 --> 00:20:33,567
because there was a…
406
00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:35,527
There were no…
There were white people in the movie
407
00:20:35,611 --> 00:20:38,655
but there were no, like,
white leads in it.
408
00:20:38,739 --> 00:20:41,074
And you take a picture
like Boyz n the Hood,
409
00:20:41,158 --> 00:20:43,368
no one tripped about that
because it was a movie
410
00:20:43,452 --> 00:20:45,579
- that dealt with a violent thing.
- [Leno] Right.
411
00:20:45,662 --> 00:20:47,748
But, regular thing
and it was business.
412
00:20:47,831 --> 00:20:50,375
"Where are the white people?
Who's running that office?"
413
00:20:50,459 --> 00:20:52,711
[audience applauding]
414
00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,422
I was talking through
the scene with Eddie,
415
00:20:55,506 --> 00:20:57,841
where Strangé, played by Grace Jones,
416
00:20:57,925 --> 00:20:59,468
arrives at this big party.
417
00:21:00,344 --> 00:21:03,722
And I'm describing to him
how this cabinet opens
418
00:21:03,805 --> 00:21:05,933
and she's brought out by a chariot.
419
00:21:06,016 --> 00:21:09,645
And Eddie stops me and goes,
"Hey, wait a minute,
420
00:21:09,728 --> 00:21:13,690
didn't you say that that box
is carried by a helicopter?"
421
00:21:13,774 --> 00:21:17,569
I said, "Yeah, but the studio said
that the helicopter part's too expensive.
422
00:21:17,653 --> 00:21:20,697
But it's okay because I've got
this great new idea,"
423
00:21:20,781 --> 00:21:24,451
and he goes, "No, no, but you said
you wanted a helicopter."
424
00:21:24,535 --> 00:21:27,579
I said, "Yeah, but, you know,
it's okay, Eddie I got a new idea."
425
00:21:27,663 --> 00:21:31,166
And he goes, "Ah," picks up his phone,
makes a phone call,
426
00:21:32,042 --> 00:21:35,671
and says,
"Now, the helicopter comes, then what?"
427
00:21:36,088 --> 00:21:38,257
[helicopter whirring]
428
00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:41,552
[Hudlin] And I was like,
"Wow, this is new.
429
00:21:42,386 --> 00:21:43,887
This is new."
430
00:21:44,221 --> 00:21:48,433
It's just… [chuckles]
the Black star supporting the Black vision
431
00:21:48,517 --> 00:21:50,018
and just doing it right.
432
00:21:50,102 --> 00:21:52,271
[speaking French]
433
00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:56,066
A lot of the movies that I've done
have been like, "I'm doing this movie
434
00:21:56,149 --> 00:22:00,112
because there hasn't been a movie
like this with Black folks.
435
00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:01,613
So, I have to do this."
436
00:22:01,697 --> 00:22:03,657
That's why I did a movie like Pluto Nash.
437
00:22:03,740 --> 00:22:06,243
I was like, "They ain't never
had no niggas on the moon,
438
00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:08,203
so I'm gonna be
the first nigga on the moon
439
00:22:08,287 --> 00:22:11,415
and that's gonna open it up
for other niggas to be on the moon."
440
00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:13,000
[laughs]
441
00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:19,756
{\an8}Those the girls right there?
I think three is gonna work out just fine.
442
00:22:20,591 --> 00:22:21,633
Ladies!
443
00:22:21,717 --> 00:22:24,344
[Murphy] No matter what script
you give me, I'm gonna do it like me.
444
00:22:24,428 --> 00:22:26,388
You see that? I'm at your feet, baby.
445
00:22:26,471 --> 00:22:28,682
Thank you so much.
And I'd do anything for y'all.
446
00:22:28,765 --> 00:22:31,185
I'm like that
from Saturday Night Live, though.
447
00:22:31,268 --> 00:22:33,729
{\an8}I think the pace of that show,
going on the show,
448
00:22:33,812 --> 00:22:35,731
{\an8}on Monday there's no show,
449
00:22:35,814 --> 00:22:37,774
{\an8}and then Saturday, we going live.
450
00:22:37,858 --> 00:22:40,068
so I think being at that pace,
451
00:22:40,152 --> 00:22:42,404
doing stuff at that pace in the beginning
452
00:22:42,487 --> 00:22:45,199
just made it…
that's the way I work all the time.
453
00:22:46,783 --> 00:22:49,203
I was a disciplined person
454
00:22:49,286 --> 00:22:51,413
and always was working.
455
00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:53,874
And I used to just go and just do movies
456
00:22:53,957 --> 00:22:56,043
and just be miserable
doing the movies you was making
457
00:22:56,126 --> 00:22:57,711
because you was getting a bag.
458
00:22:57,794 --> 00:23:00,005
So you'd just go do something
and you'd be miserable.
459
00:23:00,088 --> 00:23:03,133
When I was young,
success was just, you know,
460
00:23:03,217 --> 00:23:05,052
making lots of money.
461
00:23:05,135 --> 00:23:07,971
Money is just a small part of that.
462
00:23:08,055 --> 00:23:12,142
I know a lot of rich people
that are miserable people.
463
00:23:12,226 --> 00:23:16,313
That ain't to say I've been
an angel, goodie two-shoes,
464
00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:19,775
but what stopped me from going
over the edge any time in life
465
00:23:19,858 --> 00:23:23,237
was that I've always been
grounded spiritually.
466
00:23:24,446 --> 00:23:27,157
Being a movie star, being a movie actor,
467
00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:31,912
being an actor, you want to be
thought of as good at what you do.
468
00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:34,498
That's primarily it, you know.
469
00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,667
The first thing I do when I get on set
470
00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:38,627
is try to make everybody understand
471
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:40,712
that it's not a movie star that walked in.
472
00:23:40,796 --> 00:23:43,173
I'm just an actor,
I'm no different than you.
473
00:23:43,257 --> 00:23:46,093
But when you see me coming,
just stand back a little more.
474
00:23:46,176 --> 00:23:48,136
[crew laughing]
475
00:23:50,347 --> 00:23:53,809
I would say the primary difference
that I'd run into
476
00:23:53,892 --> 00:23:57,771
working with different actors
is who is acting
477
00:23:58,355 --> 00:24:00,691
and who's reading copy.
478
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:05,028
By that I mean,
some actors are celebrities.
479
00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:08,740
They don't, you know,
they don't put on a different…
480
00:24:09,408 --> 00:24:12,411
a different costume, yes,
but a different persona, no.
481
00:24:12,494 --> 00:24:14,162
You know them.
482
00:24:15,497 --> 00:24:18,375
I remember being
in an ensemble company in Philadelphia
483
00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:21,420
and what we used to do,
before rehearsals,
484
00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:24,131
is these little exercises in trust.
485
00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:28,177
Relax and give it up.
486
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,182
And so, the best actors
are the ones who just give.
487
00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:37,519
And I think that's part
of the secret of it.
488
00:24:37,603 --> 00:24:38,979
The whole thing.
489
00:24:39,062 --> 00:24:40,856
Morgan Freeman.
490
00:24:41,773 --> 00:24:43,442
Fucking Lean on Me, man.
491
00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:48,238
As a product of bad schools
and violence in schools,
492
00:24:48,322 --> 00:24:51,450
that movie has so much
meaning behind it.
493
00:24:51,825 --> 00:24:54,870
The idea of a teacher,
the idea of a principal,
494
00:24:54,953 --> 00:24:58,916
the idea of giving a fuck
about your youth.
495
00:24:59,458 --> 00:25:01,710
{\an8}[Joe Louis Clark] Look at me boy!
Don't you smoke crack!
496
00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:05,464
{\an8}- [stammering] Yes, sir.
- You know what that does to you?
497
00:25:05,547 --> 00:25:07,299
- Huh?
- No, sir.
498
00:25:07,382 --> 00:25:10,636
It kills your brain cells, son,
it kills your brain cells!
499
00:25:10,719 --> 00:25:12,346
When you're destroying your brain cells,
500
00:25:12,429 --> 00:25:14,973
you're doing the same
as killing yourself, just slower!
501
00:25:15,057 --> 00:25:16,725
Morgan Freeman, wow.
502
00:25:16,808 --> 00:25:22,356
Uh, people, I think, underestimate
how great of an actor
503
00:25:22,856 --> 00:25:26,235
{\an8}he is and has been
for many, many years.
504
00:25:26,318 --> 00:25:29,404
{\an8}Gospel at Colonus. Whoa.
505
00:25:29,905 --> 00:25:31,907
The movie he did, what was that,
when he was a pimp?
506
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:34,076
- What was that movie?
- [Hudlin] Street Smart.
507
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:37,412
Whoo! Street Smart. People are like,
"Morgan Freeman's God."
508
00:25:38,288 --> 00:25:39,373
I'm God.
509
00:25:39,456 --> 00:25:41,625
Morgan Freeman's the devil. [laughs]
510
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,418
Go watch Street Smart.
511
00:25:43,502 --> 00:25:46,463
That movie is scary,
he's scary good in that movie.
512
00:25:46,547 --> 00:25:47,506
{\an8}[glass shattering]
513
00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:49,132
{\an8}Try going into business for yourself
514
00:25:49,216 --> 00:25:51,260
{\an8}- you'll be one dead whore.
- Not my face, please.
515
00:25:51,343 --> 00:25:52,803
{\an8}It's not your face, bitch, it's my face.
516
00:25:52,886 --> 00:25:55,931
- My tits and my ass!
- Hey, take it easy, yeah?
517
00:25:56,765 --> 00:26:00,561
I always wanted to be a star,
I always, from childhood on,
518
00:26:00,644 --> 00:26:03,856
I wanted to be accepted.
519
00:26:04,398 --> 00:26:06,817
I won't say idolized,
520
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:11,530
but that's what I did as a kid,
I went to the movies every day I could.
521
00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:14,575
It cost 12 cents to get into a movie,
I went every day.
522
00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:17,578
[Hart] No one even knows
how old Morgan Freeman is.
523
00:26:17,661 --> 00:26:19,454
Nobody fuckin' knows.
524
00:26:19,538 --> 00:26:21,957
It's at a point where people stop asking.
525
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,042
{\an8}It didn't happen for you right away.
526
00:26:24,126 --> 00:26:27,129
{\an8}No, it did not. It took a while.
527
00:26:27,212 --> 00:26:30,382
{\an8}- Yeah.
- It didn't start until '86.
528
00:26:30,465 --> 00:26:33,135
{\an8}- How old were you then?
- Fifty.
529
00:26:33,927 --> 00:26:36,930
{\an8}That's pretty interesting because
you feel like you've had a full career
530
00:26:37,014 --> 00:26:38,974
{\an8}having made 50 movies since 50.
531
00:26:39,349 --> 00:26:42,436
{\an8}I always say,
it didn't have to happen at all.
532
00:26:42,978 --> 00:26:45,564
[Hudlin] When you first read
the script for Unforgiven,
533
00:26:45,647 --> 00:26:48,859
- what did you think?
- I wasn't thinking at all, Reggie.
534
00:26:49,193 --> 00:26:51,153
I was in Africa.
535
00:26:51,778 --> 00:26:53,780
Clint called me,
536
00:26:53,864 --> 00:26:56,783
asked if I wanted
to take this ride with him.
537
00:26:56,867 --> 00:26:59,828
The script was called
The William Munny Killings.
538
00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:02,956
Clint had sat on this script
for a long time
539
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,584
until he felt old enough
to play that part
540
00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:09,588
and then he called me out of the blue.
541
00:27:11,298 --> 00:27:13,509
He said, "Do you wanna take this ride?"
542
00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:16,970
Abso-- [mouths curse word]-lutely.
543
00:27:19,264 --> 00:27:20,516
{\an8}Uh…
544
00:27:21,975 --> 00:27:23,644
{\an8}This kid, what's he like?
545
00:27:27,022 --> 00:27:28,106
Three ways?
546
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,945
I see you still have
that Spencer rifle, huh?
547
00:27:33,529 --> 00:27:35,030
Yeah.
548
00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:37,950
And l can still knock the eye
out of a bird flying, too.
549
00:27:38,909 --> 00:27:41,078
As Morgan's star ascended,
550
00:27:41,161 --> 00:27:44,915
it was so encouraging and…
551
00:27:45,958 --> 00:27:49,586
…it gave you such
a sense of hope and confidence
552
00:27:50,212 --> 00:27:53,882
to see the quality of work
that he was doing
553
00:27:53,966 --> 00:27:55,968
and the range of work that he was doing,
554
00:27:56,051 --> 00:27:59,763
'cause another thing that's great
about Morgan is Morgan has range.
555
00:27:59,847 --> 00:28:04,768
That's essentially what I've
been looking for most of my career.
556
00:28:04,852 --> 00:28:07,187
'Cause, you know,
there was Larry Fishburne
557
00:28:07,271 --> 00:28:09,398
who's the guy in King of New York
558
00:28:09,481 --> 00:28:10,983
and the guy in School Daze,
559
00:28:11,066 --> 00:28:14,111
and those two guys are completely
diametrically opposed.
560
00:28:14,194 --> 00:28:15,654
And then there's Othello,
561
00:28:15,737 --> 00:28:19,366
and then there's Ike, and then
there's the guy I played in Deep Cover.
562
00:28:19,449 --> 00:28:21,994
{\an8}And then, there's you know, Morpheus.
563
00:28:26,123 --> 00:28:28,876
{\an8}Come on! Stop trying to hit me and hit me!
564
00:28:35,215 --> 00:28:39,344
{\an8}Early in my career, mostly film-wise
I was working with Francis
565
00:28:39,428 --> 00:28:43,724
{\an8}so I wound up doing Rumble Fish,
Cotton Club and Gardens of Stone
566
00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:45,225
in the early to mid '80s.
567
00:28:45,684 --> 00:28:49,021
And then I also wound up
on Pee-wee's Playhouse.
568
00:28:50,397 --> 00:28:52,774
People would often try
to clown me about it,
569
00:28:52,858 --> 00:28:54,985
they'd be like, "Oh my God,
you were Cowboy Curtis,"
570
00:28:55,068 --> 00:28:56,945
I was like, "Yeah, that's right!"
571
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:59,615
How's your wiener doing, Cowboy Curtis?
572
00:28:59,698 --> 00:29:04,119
Well, just a little bit overcooked,
but that's just the way I like it.
573
00:29:04,203 --> 00:29:05,871
How's your wiener, Pee-wee?
574
00:29:06,997 --> 00:29:09,291
- Perfect!
- Good. Let's eat.
575
00:29:09,374 --> 00:29:13,545
Paul Reubens,
his was really the first set I worked on
576
00:29:13,629 --> 00:29:17,299
where it was incredibly diverse.
577
00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:19,343
He had women in non-traditional roles,
578
00:29:19,426 --> 00:29:23,180
he had them behind the camera
and one of the PAs on that
579
00:29:23,263 --> 00:29:25,098
was John Singleton.
580
00:29:26,183 --> 00:29:30,562
And John had just graduated
from SC Film School.
581
00:29:30,646 --> 00:29:33,065
He was like, "I've written this thing,
582
00:29:33,148 --> 00:29:37,444
I want you to play the father,
and it's really great," and I was like,
583
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,948
"When you got it written
and it's ready to go,
584
00:29:41,031 --> 00:29:43,492
send it to me and I will read it."
585
00:29:43,575 --> 00:29:45,160
So, a year and a half later,
586
00:29:45,244 --> 00:29:47,287
he sent me the script to Boyz n the Hood.
587
00:29:47,371 --> 00:29:50,082
And it was really, really brilliant.
588
00:29:50,832 --> 00:29:53,252
{\an8}I owe him a great debt.
589
00:29:53,335 --> 00:29:55,420
{\an8}I want y'all take a look
at that sign up there.
590
00:29:55,504 --> 00:29:57,047
{\an8}See what it says?
591
00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:59,049
{\an8}Cash for your home.
592
00:29:59,132 --> 00:30:00,801
{\an8}You know what that is?
593
00:30:02,177 --> 00:30:03,971
[both] It's a billboard.
594
00:30:04,054 --> 00:30:06,139
What are y'all, Amos 'n' Andy?
595
00:30:06,223 --> 00:30:08,141
Are you Stepin and he's Fetchit?
596
00:30:08,225 --> 00:30:10,686
I'm talking about the message,
what it stands for.
597
00:30:11,353 --> 00:30:16,692
Boyz n the Hood, that was
the biggest unexpected turn.
598
00:30:16,775 --> 00:30:19,820
I did not know that the movie
599
00:30:19,903 --> 00:30:22,114
was gonna hit to that magnitude.
600
00:30:23,615 --> 00:30:25,033
Hey, man, what's wrong with you?
601
00:30:25,117 --> 00:30:27,244
[hip- hop music playing]
602
00:30:27,327 --> 00:30:28,704
Fuck you lookin' at, nigga?
603
00:30:28,787 --> 00:30:31,248
I'm still tryin' to find out, nigga!
604
00:30:31,331 --> 00:30:32,416
[man] Hold up, hold on.
605
00:30:32,791 --> 00:30:34,042
We got a problem here?
606
00:30:35,711 --> 00:30:37,045
We got a problem here?
607
00:30:37,129 --> 00:30:39,673
I'll never forget, my agent at the time,
608
00:30:39,756 --> 00:30:42,050
he's like, "Yeah, it's doing really well
609
00:30:42,134 --> 00:30:43,927
at the Cannes Film Festival,"
I was like, "Cannes?"
610
00:30:44,011 --> 00:30:46,263
I said,
"Are they gonna release it here in LA?"
611
00:30:48,182 --> 00:30:50,142
That was the funniest, that was like,
612
00:30:50,225 --> 00:30:52,019
"Why is it over there?
613
00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:53,896
We gotta release it here!" You know.
614
00:31:02,154 --> 00:31:05,073
{\an8}The 1990s was a different
kind of revolution
615
00:31:05,157 --> 00:31:06,533
in terms of Black cinema.
616
00:31:06,617 --> 00:31:09,036
One that was fueled by Black filmmakers,
617
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:12,831
Black directors, Black writers,
Black producers.
618
00:31:12,915 --> 00:31:15,167
They're working within Hollywood
619
00:31:15,250 --> 00:31:17,169
but they're not just doing genre movies.
620
00:31:17,252 --> 00:31:19,254
They're doing movies
that are a lot more personal.
621
00:31:19,338 --> 00:31:22,674
[yelling] Wake up!
622
00:31:22,758 --> 00:31:25,344
[Hudlin] This is the first generation
of Black filmmakers
623
00:31:25,427 --> 00:31:26,720
who went to film school.
624
00:31:26,803 --> 00:31:29,389
Spike Lee, John Singleton, myself.
625
00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:33,519
As exciting as the movies
of the 1970s were,
626
00:31:33,602 --> 00:31:35,395
these movies are a new style.
627
00:31:35,479 --> 00:31:38,607
{\an8}They're fresh and they cross over
628
00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:41,235
{\an8}in a way that we've never seen before.
629
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:43,445
{\an8}[people shouting]
630
00:31:43,529 --> 00:31:45,405
{\an8}[Hudlin] They are relatable to everybody
631
00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:48,450
{\an8}even though they're being
very culturally specific.
632
00:31:49,576 --> 00:31:51,453
[people laughing and screaming]
633
00:31:51,537 --> 00:31:53,872
For the first time we're seeing
634
00:31:53,956 --> 00:31:57,125
the variation of what beauty was
635
00:31:57,209 --> 00:31:59,419
because we were driving the narrative
636
00:31:59,503 --> 00:32:01,213
of the beauty as we knew it.
637
00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:05,467
We were really committed to making sure
638
00:32:05,551 --> 00:32:09,221
that we were very true
to the representation.
639
00:32:10,722 --> 00:32:13,100
[Reuben Cannon] John Singleton,
God rest his soul and God bless him,
640
00:32:13,183 --> 00:32:16,937
because of where he grew up
and what he knew about South Central
641
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:20,732
he had no reluctance to hire
actors from the community.
642
00:32:20,816 --> 00:32:22,901
But also a rapper from the community.
643
00:32:23,944 --> 00:32:27,155
If you're looking at Hollywood
from a business standpoint,
644
00:32:27,239 --> 00:32:28,282
this is risky.
645
00:32:28,365 --> 00:32:30,409
But Ice Cube's one of a kind.
646
00:32:30,951 --> 00:32:32,953
{\an8}Either they don't know…
647
00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:36,081
{\an8}…don't show…
648
00:32:38,292 --> 00:32:40,878
…or don't care
about what's going on in the hood.
649
00:32:42,588 --> 00:32:46,550
You know, I was just lucky
to do my first movie with John
650
00:32:46,633 --> 00:32:50,888
because not only is he a filmmaker,
but he's a teacher.
651
00:32:52,055 --> 00:32:54,558
John told me, "Make sure you can write
652
00:32:54,641 --> 00:32:58,187
because you're not gonna find
too many Boyz n the Hoods
653
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:00,355
for you out here in Hollywood."
654
00:33:00,439 --> 00:33:04,193
So, he told me that I could be
a writer in films
655
00:33:04,276 --> 00:33:06,904
because my records were so vivid.
656
00:33:06,987 --> 00:33:09,031
[hip-hop beat]
657
00:33:11,116 --> 00:33:14,119
You know, the process
of writing a song is basically
658
00:33:14,203 --> 00:33:15,954
trying to get an idea over
659
00:33:16,038 --> 00:33:18,207
in three verses, three minutes.
660
00:33:18,290 --> 00:33:23,003
With a movie,
you really have to dig deeper
661
00:33:23,086 --> 00:33:26,840
into the ideas,
dig deeper into the characters.
662
00:33:27,591 --> 00:33:32,596
Give these people a life
and make you care about them.
663
00:33:33,347 --> 00:33:36,642
It's a process that I really dig,
I dig writing.
664
00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:39,436
{\an8}Excuse me, brother.
665
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,398
{\an8}What we call drugs
at 74th Street Baptist Church
666
00:33:43,482 --> 00:33:46,026
[singing] we call a sinny-sin-sin.
667
00:33:46,568 --> 00:33:50,280
♪ Well, around here
Between Normandie and Western ♪
668
00:33:50,364 --> 00:33:53,450
♪ We call this here
A little twenty, twen twen! ♪
669
00:33:53,534 --> 00:33:56,286
- [vocalizing]
- ♪ Nigga! ♪
670
00:33:56,370 --> 00:33:59,831
When I first started doing movies,
I got 97%
671
00:33:59,915 --> 00:34:01,667
of all the auditions I went on.
672
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,585
As much as I got auditions, I think
673
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:05,754
I got discouraged after I got Batman.
674
00:34:06,922 --> 00:34:08,757
{\an8}I was supposed to be Robin
675
00:34:08,841 --> 00:34:10,842
{\an8}but they wrote me out.
676
00:34:10,926 --> 00:34:13,303
And then, the new one came
677
00:34:13,387 --> 00:34:18,516
and the director had a different idea
of what Robin was.
678
00:34:19,184 --> 00:34:21,143
And that was a heartbreak for me.
679
00:34:21,562 --> 00:34:23,063
I've never been the guy.
680
00:34:24,188 --> 00:34:28,819
"The guy" is one of the maybe five guys
681
00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:32,989
that gets the best script
attached with the best director,
682
00:34:33,072 --> 00:34:36,577
attached with the best producers
with the biggest budget
683
00:34:36,659 --> 00:34:38,579
and the biggest marketing campaign.
684
00:34:38,661 --> 00:34:41,415
And of the five to ten guys in Hollywood
685
00:34:41,498 --> 00:34:42,958
that get that opportunity,
686
00:34:43,041 --> 00:34:46,795
maybe one or two of those guys
at a time are Black.
687
00:34:47,379 --> 00:34:50,507
I had brothers like John Singleton
sit me down,
688
00:34:50,591 --> 00:34:52,426
"What are you doing out here?"
689
00:34:52,509 --> 00:34:54,928
- "I'm gonna be an actor."
- "No, you gonna be a Black actor."
690
00:34:55,012 --> 00:34:58,098
"Yeah, I'm Black, nigga," right?
691
00:34:58,182 --> 00:35:01,059
"What does that mean? It means
there's no work for you in Hollywood."
692
00:35:01,143 --> 00:35:03,437
If you wanted to hold a gun in a movie
693
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,482
or get shot in a movie or TV show,
that was all available.
694
00:35:07,566 --> 00:35:10,861
I felt like I was going
to be doing a lot of theater.
695
00:35:12,112 --> 00:35:14,239
I was doing that cadence that we do,
696
00:35:14,323 --> 00:35:16,783
work, unemployment,
work, unemployment.
697
00:35:16,867 --> 00:35:19,578
I went to professional waiter
school because I thought, "Oh,
698
00:35:19,661 --> 00:35:21,997
I may need a leg-up in this waiter game."
699
00:35:22,915 --> 00:35:24,917
{\an8}I was on Picket Fences for three years
700
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,544
{\an8}and I really wanted to get off the show
701
00:35:27,628 --> 00:35:30,047
because I was 12th on the call sheet,
702
00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:32,466
and my character
was the heart of the show.
703
00:35:32,549 --> 00:35:34,176
Which, I'm like,
"I don't wanna be the heart of the damn--"
704
00:35:34,259 --> 00:35:36,220
I wanted to be the balls
of the show, you know?
705
00:35:36,303 --> 00:35:37,346
Get me out of here!
706
00:35:38,013 --> 00:35:41,225
I quit that show and Devil in a Blue Dress
came the very next year.
707
00:35:43,810 --> 00:35:44,811
{\an8}What happened?
708
00:35:45,687 --> 00:35:47,689
{\an8}I ain't had no time
to be tying him up, Easy.
709
00:35:48,774 --> 00:35:49,775
What?
710
00:35:50,692 --> 00:35:53,070
- You just said don't shoot him, right?
- That's right.
711
00:35:53,153 --> 00:35:55,572
Well, I didn't, I just choked him.
712
00:35:56,782 --> 00:35:59,618
- What?
- How am I gonna help you out
713
00:35:59,701 --> 00:36:01,703
if I'm back here fooling around with him?
714
00:36:06,083 --> 00:36:09,253
Easy, look, if you ain't want him killed,
why'd you leave him with me?
715
00:36:09,336 --> 00:36:11,338
[hip-hop beat]
716
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,847
[Hudlin] By the end of the 1990s,
717
00:36:19,930 --> 00:36:22,224
Hollywood's appetite
for personal storytelling
718
00:36:22,307 --> 00:36:23,225
was kinda drying up.
719
00:36:23,308 --> 00:36:26,186
Suddenly it got very hard
for Black filmmakers
720
00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:27,855
to get movies made.
721
00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:32,192
But Black cinema has launched
a bunch of new movie stars,
722
00:36:32,276 --> 00:36:35,696
which are being quickly adopted
by the Hollywood mainstream.
723
00:36:35,779 --> 00:36:38,782
You have Wesley Snipes,
you have Laurence Fishburne,
724
00:36:38,866 --> 00:36:40,534
and you have Denzel Washington
725
00:36:40,617 --> 00:36:42,911
who becomes America's new leading man.
726
00:36:42,995 --> 00:36:44,580
{\an8}Nigger, you better get your hands off me.
727
00:36:44,663 --> 00:36:46,748
{\an8}- Ain't no niggers around here, hear me?
- I see.
728
00:36:46,832 --> 00:36:50,836
{\an8}The white man give you a coupla stripes.
Next thing, you orderin' everyone around.
729
00:36:50,919 --> 00:36:52,171
Like you the massa hisself.
730
00:36:53,172 --> 00:36:55,757
{\an8}This. Look at me. Pencil detonator.
731
00:36:55,841 --> 00:36:58,343
{\an8}C-4. Highly explosive.
732
00:36:58,844 --> 00:37:02,181
- Put 'em all together, you got a bomb.
- [explosion]
733
00:37:02,264 --> 00:37:06,101
[laid-back hip-hop music]
734
00:37:06,185 --> 00:37:09,021
When you're talking about stars,
it's a rarefied group of actors.
735
00:37:09,104 --> 00:37:11,440
There's only so many of them
under any race.
736
00:37:12,065 --> 00:37:15,319
Denzel Washington represents
the last 30 years
737
00:37:15,402 --> 00:37:16,904
of Hollywood movie-making.
738
00:37:16,987 --> 00:37:18,906
He is the standard bearer.
739
00:37:18,989 --> 00:37:23,368
D was the dude I thought was the cool,
square Black guy on St. Elsewhere.
740
00:37:24,995 --> 00:37:28,999
When we seen him do what he did in that,
and then [quietly] Malcolm X.
741
00:37:29,791 --> 00:37:30,792
Come on.
742
00:37:31,210 --> 00:37:34,004
You're playing one of the most powerful
743
00:37:34,087 --> 00:37:38,926
but super-controversial characters
744
00:37:39,009 --> 00:37:40,385
in our world.
745
00:37:41,261 --> 00:37:44,765
{\an8}Before there was any such thing
as a Republican or a Democrat,
746
00:37:44,848 --> 00:37:45,849
{\an8}we were Black.
747
00:37:45,933 --> 00:37:48,393
{\an8}Before there was any such thing
as a Mason or an Elk,
748
00:37:48,477 --> 00:37:49,853
- we were Black.
- [woman] Yes!
749
00:37:49,937 --> 00:37:52,940
Before there was any such thing
as a Jew or a Christian,
750
00:37:53,023 --> 00:37:54,441
we were Black people.
751
00:37:54,525 --> 00:37:57,528
In fact, before there was
any such place as America,
752
00:37:57,611 --> 00:37:58,862
we were Black.
753
00:37:58,946 --> 00:38:02,783
And after America
has long passed from the scene,
754
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:04,368
there will still be Black people.
755
00:38:04,451 --> 00:38:06,578
[crowd cheers]
756
00:38:06,662 --> 00:38:11,208
He plays the character to where,
no matter where you came from,
757
00:38:11,291 --> 00:38:14,878
he gave the character multi-dimensions.
758
00:38:14,962 --> 00:38:18,632
But it was still wrapped in Black.
759
00:38:18,715 --> 00:38:22,594
And then you see him emerging
as saying, like, "I got the culture."
760
00:38:23,011 --> 00:38:25,138
Before we was even saying the culture.
761
00:38:26,098 --> 00:38:29,935
[Hudlin] Did you have a plan
when you started your acting career?
762
00:38:30,018 --> 00:38:32,229
Uh, yes.
763
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:36,608
To do Broadway and make $650 a week
764
00:38:36,692 --> 00:38:39,069
and be like James Earl Jones.
765
00:38:40,028 --> 00:38:43,532
That was as far as I saw. I wasn't a--
766
00:38:43,615 --> 00:38:45,868
I still am not a movie buff.
767
00:38:45,951 --> 00:38:48,579
But I really wasn't following
a whole lot of movies.
768
00:38:48,662 --> 00:38:52,541
I mean, the movies I watched growing up
were, like, Super Fly, Shaft, so…
769
00:38:52,624 --> 00:38:58,005
Once I started acting,
I was more interested in the theater.
770
00:38:59,381 --> 00:39:02,009
Movies were, you know…
It's a director's medium.
771
00:39:02,092 --> 00:39:04,178
You could be giving
the performance of your life,
772
00:39:04,261 --> 00:39:06,847
and you might be pushing in
on the glass of water.
773
00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:08,515
[chuckles] You know.
774
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,017
Theater is an actor's medium.
775
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,436
Once the curtain goes up,
it belongs to the actors.
776
00:39:13,604 --> 00:39:15,397
[man] Can I ask you a question?
777
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,691
{\an8}How come you ain't never liked me?
778
00:39:19,484 --> 00:39:23,989
{\an8}Like you? [chuckles]
Who the hell said I got to like you?
779
00:39:24,072 --> 00:39:27,826
- [laughter]
- What law is there say I got to like you?
780
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:30,913
You wanna stand up in my face and
ask a damn fool ass question like that.
781
00:39:30,996 --> 00:39:33,415
Talkin' about likin' somebody.
Come here when I'm talkin' to you.
782
00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:37,628
When I started,
the Black stars were comedians.
783
00:39:38,170 --> 00:39:40,339
Richard Pryor. Then Eddie Murphy.
784
00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:43,258
I really wasn't looking at movies.
785
00:39:43,342 --> 00:39:46,261
There weren't any parts
for me to play anyway, you know?
786
00:39:46,345 --> 00:39:49,139
In those days,
you could be somebody's buddy.
787
00:39:49,223 --> 00:39:51,558
You know, he gets the girl.
He saves the day.
788
00:39:51,642 --> 00:39:53,852
You pat him on the back,
and "You can do it."
789
00:39:53,936 --> 00:39:57,356
{\an8}I got a part in a movie in 1986.
790
00:39:57,439 --> 00:39:59,399
{\an8}I called it,
"The Nigga They Couldn't Kill."
791
00:39:59,483 --> 00:40:01,109
{\an8}- [crowd laughs]
- Yeah.
792
00:40:01,193 --> 00:40:03,570
- He was supposed to be a…
- [laughter continues]
793
00:40:04,154 --> 00:40:08,450
He raped a white woman,
and they tried to electrocute him,
794
00:40:08,534 --> 00:40:09,952
but it didn't work.
795
00:40:10,327 --> 00:40:13,830
- And he became sort of a cult hero.
- [woman] The one with George Segal?
796
00:40:13,914 --> 00:40:16,667
No, not that one.
That was the other awful one, but…
797
00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:21,255
And then they try to hang him.
And they try to do all this stuff, and…
798
00:40:21,755 --> 00:40:25,133
- So anyway, to make a long story long…
- [crowd laughs]
799
00:40:25,217 --> 00:40:27,177
I call Sidney, and I was…
800
00:40:27,261 --> 00:40:29,805
'Cuz he told me to call if I…
You know. I call, I was--
801
00:40:29,888 --> 00:40:33,809
I said, "Man, they're offering me $600,000
to play 'The Nigga They Couldn't Kill'."
802
00:40:33,892 --> 00:40:35,102
[crowd laughs]
803
00:40:35,185 --> 00:40:36,937
And he said,
"I'm not gonna tell you what to do."
804
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:40,649
He said, "I'm not gonna tell you that,
Denzel, but I can tell you this.
805
00:40:40,732 --> 00:40:44,611
The first two or three or four films
you do in this business
806
00:40:44,695 --> 00:40:47,698
will dictate how you're perceived
in this business."
807
00:40:47,781 --> 00:40:50,284
- [woman] Uh-huh.
- "So, you make a decision."
808
00:40:50,701 --> 00:40:53,495
You know, he didn't tell me what to do.
I give him credit for that.
809
00:40:53,579 --> 00:40:55,163
And I turned it down.
810
00:40:55,247 --> 00:40:57,416
And six months later, I got Cry Freedom.
811
00:40:57,499 --> 00:41:00,043
- [applause]
- [Washington] I got an Oscar nomination.
812
00:41:01,086 --> 00:41:04,506
[Hudlin] Yeah, but pretty quickly,
you became number one.
813
00:41:04,590 --> 00:41:06,383
Even from your first film,
814
00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:09,845
{\an8}from Carbon Copy,
you were number one on the call sheet.
815
00:41:09,928 --> 00:41:11,346
{\an8}[Washington] I wasn't
number one on the payroll,
816
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:14,933
so being number one on the call sheet
didn't mean… [laughs]
817
00:41:15,017 --> 00:41:19,479
It's about being number one
on the payroll, isn't it? [laughs]
818
00:41:21,064 --> 00:41:24,151
Yeah, I don't remember
when I became a star.
819
00:41:24,234 --> 00:41:28,405
I don't know if that's a particular film
or day or time.
820
00:41:28,488 --> 00:41:29,990
Ain't no rhyme or reason.
821
00:41:30,073 --> 00:41:33,827
Just doing the best I can
with the abilities that I've been given.
822
00:41:34,244 --> 00:41:35,495
And that's it, really.
823
00:41:36,330 --> 00:41:40,125
Just trying to do the best work.
This really comes down to the work.
824
00:41:40,209 --> 00:41:43,378
{\an8}I'm the man up in this piece.
825
00:41:43,462 --> 00:41:46,507
{\an8}You'll never see the light.
Who the fuck you think you fuckin' with?
826
00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:47,758
I'm the police.
827
00:41:47,841 --> 00:41:50,177
I run shit here. You just live here.
828
00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:56,600
King Kong ain't got shit on me.
829
00:41:57,726 --> 00:42:00,395
Denzel sat right there on that table.
830
00:42:00,479 --> 00:42:02,648
Because I'd have people come to the house.
831
00:42:02,731 --> 00:42:06,068
And I said, "D, if you come, man,
I want to invite some young actors.
832
00:42:06,151 --> 00:42:08,946
And, oh, we wanna get fed.
We wanna hear the stories."
833
00:42:09,029 --> 00:42:12,199
And he broke bread,
and he talked about being on Broadway.
834
00:42:12,282 --> 00:42:16,411
He talked about how, "We were thespians,
man. We didn't care nothin' about a car.
835
00:42:16,495 --> 00:42:19,206
We didn't care nothin' about--
We wanted to act."
836
00:42:19,289 --> 00:42:24,127
And I think all of us needed to hear that
because we were all into the fame of it.
837
00:42:25,838 --> 00:42:28,507
[Elba] When I was
in my sort of late teens,
838
00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:32,094
thinking, "Okay, this is what
I really wanna do. I wanna be an actor."
839
00:42:32,177 --> 00:42:36,515
My dad was like, "Look, you know, great,
you wanna be an actor, that's great, but…
840
00:42:36,598 --> 00:42:39,101
most actors don't work."
And he was right, you know?
841
00:42:39,184 --> 00:42:43,313
There's a statistic that's like, you know,
80% of actors are unemployed.
842
00:42:43,397 --> 00:42:46,483
"As a Black man,
you just might as well forget it."
843
00:42:46,567 --> 00:42:50,028
And, you know, that's my dad
telling me that in my late teenage years.
844
00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:52,698
And I'm thinking,
"Nah, that can't be true.
845
00:42:52,781 --> 00:42:55,033
How can I not do what I want to do?"
846
00:42:55,117 --> 00:42:57,828
{\an8}[commandant] Who wants to fight? Aha.
847
00:42:58,453 --> 00:43:00,414
{\an8}I'm only taking the brave.
848
00:43:01,331 --> 00:43:03,000
I'm not taking the scary.
849
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,462
I'm not taking no girls.
850
00:43:08,797 --> 00:43:10,883
- Are you ready to fight?
- [all] Yes, sir!
851
00:43:10,966 --> 00:43:12,968
- Are you ready to fight?
- Yes, sir!
852
00:43:13,635 --> 00:43:15,971
- You want to take that bridge?
- Yes, sir!
853
00:43:16,054 --> 00:43:17,723
[Elba] And then, get to America,
854
00:43:17,806 --> 00:43:20,434
that was the first time
I heard someone call me chocolate.
855
00:43:20,517 --> 00:43:23,061
"Ooh, boy. You so chocolate."
I was like, "Huh?
856
00:43:23,145 --> 00:43:26,732
Chocolate? What, like Maltesers?
What are you trying to say?"
857
00:43:26,815 --> 00:43:29,610
She's like, "No, no, man.
You just chocolate-skinned. So fine."
858
00:43:30,944 --> 00:43:34,489
It was a revelation
for me that, in America,
859
00:43:34,573 --> 00:43:37,576
amongst African American culture,
860
00:43:37,659 --> 00:43:40,579
the darker the berry,
the sweeter the juice.
861
00:43:40,662 --> 00:43:43,916
And before you know it,
I was being regarded as sexy.
862
00:43:44,791 --> 00:43:49,505
That became part of my career journey.
You know, playing handsome characters.
863
00:43:51,298 --> 00:43:53,133
I mean, it's a privilege.
I'm not gonna lie.
864
00:43:53,217 --> 00:43:55,928
I've been called worse.
Let's put it that way.
865
00:43:56,011 --> 00:43:57,679
So, let me tell you this. Like…
866
00:43:57,763 --> 00:44:03,018
I was really skinny and nerdy
and no self-confidence.
867
00:44:03,101 --> 00:44:05,812
I'm not Denzel Washington,
you know what I mean?
868
00:44:06,271 --> 00:44:10,108
But then I get the role
for How Stella Got Her Groove Back.
869
00:44:11,151 --> 00:44:15,572
And then, I do the movie, and I'm like,
"Oh, maybe I am somebody." Right?
870
00:44:15,656 --> 00:44:18,283
I come back to New York.
I go to this club.
871
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,620
And I'm thinking
people are just gonna sense
872
00:44:21,703 --> 00:44:23,872
that I have--
Like, that I smell like a movie star.
873
00:44:23,956 --> 00:44:26,375
Nobody noticed shit.
874
00:44:26,458 --> 00:44:29,545
I was like, "What? Come on, man.
Don't you know?"
875
00:44:29,628 --> 00:44:31,839
And I did not want
to be that guy that was like,
876
00:44:31,922 --> 00:44:34,132
"Excuse me,
I'm about to come out in a movie."
877
00:44:34,216 --> 00:44:37,886
[laughs] I wanted to so bad.
878
00:44:38,929 --> 00:44:42,057
You know, there's something
about this industry
879
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,017
where it can get inside your head.
880
00:44:44,101 --> 00:44:46,520
And I'm--
Oh, I'm getting goosebumps. I remember.
881
00:44:46,603 --> 00:44:49,189
In my bathroom, Upper West Side,
and I looked at the cover of Vanity Fair.
882
00:44:49,273 --> 00:44:52,693
It was Matt Damon. Big smile. In the tub.
883
00:44:53,277 --> 00:44:55,237
And I was like, "I want that."
884
00:44:56,029 --> 00:44:58,991
And then my whole thing was like…
[imitates clicks]
885
00:44:59,491 --> 00:45:02,119
On the phone with agents.
"How come I'm not…? How come I'm not…?"
886
00:45:02,494 --> 00:45:05,247
My whole thing was like,
"Don't treat me like a Black actor.
887
00:45:05,330 --> 00:45:06,665
Treat me like an actor."
888
00:45:06,748 --> 00:45:09,585
And you go to these agencies.
They're like, "Absolutely. We're gonna…
889
00:45:09,668 --> 00:45:12,004
We don't see you…
We see you as a this and that."
890
00:45:12,087 --> 00:45:14,256
They're gonna tell you
exactly what you want to hear.
891
00:45:14,339 --> 00:45:15,716
And I didn't know that.
892
00:45:15,799 --> 00:45:17,426
[hip-hop record scratch]
893
00:45:19,136 --> 00:45:21,555
[Shaw] Some 20-some-odd years ago,
I think it's been now,
894
00:45:21,638 --> 00:45:23,557
we made this little movie, Friday.
895
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,602
And at one point, we were talking
about foreign distribution.
896
00:45:26,685 --> 00:45:30,272
And we're in with the studio head
of the European marketplace.
897
00:45:30,355 --> 00:45:34,818
And because Ice Cube
is such a big, worldwide music star,
898
00:45:34,902 --> 00:45:37,821
he's offering to do music tours
899
00:45:37,905 --> 00:45:39,948
and promote the movie in that way.
900
00:45:40,032 --> 00:45:42,993
And this man explained to us
in the most minute detail
901
00:45:43,076 --> 00:45:46,705
that people who go to concerts
don't go to movies.
902
00:45:46,788 --> 00:45:48,373
And I… I remember thinking,
903
00:45:48,457 --> 00:45:51,084
"Really? Is that how it works in Europe?"
904
00:45:51,168 --> 00:45:55,339
You know the myth
about "Black films wouldn't travel."
905
00:45:55,422 --> 00:46:00,010
There's a belief among the distributors
that Black films would not travel.
906
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:01,220
It wouldn't do well overseas.
907
00:46:01,595 --> 00:46:04,640
And as a result, also,
lower budgets for Black films.
908
00:46:05,015 --> 00:46:09,353
These were conversations you'd hear.
"People of color don't play overseas."
909
00:46:09,436 --> 00:46:12,064
"International comedies don't make money."
910
00:46:12,147 --> 00:46:16,860
It's a trip because a lot of studios,
911
00:46:17,486 --> 00:46:21,698
you know, when they look at the budget
and they write in "international,"
912
00:46:21,782 --> 00:46:22,824
they put in a zero.
913
00:46:22,908 --> 00:46:25,994
Like our movies are not gonna make
any money internationally.
914
00:46:26,078 --> 00:46:28,747
But thank God for Bad Boys,
915
00:46:28,830 --> 00:46:30,916
with Will Smith and Martin Lawrence.
916
00:46:30,999 --> 00:46:34,586
It kinda opened up that ceiling.
It broke it a little bit.
917
00:46:35,003 --> 00:46:38,257
Will obviously blew that, uh,
that theory out of the water.
918
00:46:38,757 --> 00:46:43,053
["Ruff Ryders' Anthem" by DMX playing]
919
00:46:43,136 --> 00:46:47,808
[Taye Diggs] He just said, "Okay. You say
Black films don't do well overseas.
920
00:46:48,225 --> 00:46:49,351
Watch this."
921
00:46:49,434 --> 00:46:52,020
And he just did it.
Like, that's not that deep.
922
00:46:52,104 --> 00:46:53,105
He just did it.
923
00:46:57,651 --> 00:46:59,987
[song fades]
924
00:47:00,070 --> 00:47:03,365
The central ideas for me
was it had to be global.
925
00:47:03,907 --> 00:47:07,035
I always hated the idea, um,
926
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,163
that was kind of generally accepted
in Hollywood
927
00:47:10,247 --> 00:47:12,416
that Black people
don't translate globally.
928
00:47:12,499 --> 00:47:15,961
I had already been
around the world with music.
929
00:47:16,044 --> 00:47:20,299
So, maybe it hadn't been done
on the scale
930
00:47:20,382 --> 00:47:23,760
of what, you know,
Hollywood would call a blockbuster,
931
00:47:23,844 --> 00:47:27,431
but I knew it wasn't true
that it couldn't happen.
932
00:47:27,514 --> 00:47:29,808
I was always looking
for the unfair advantage.
933
00:47:29,892 --> 00:47:32,311
What was the unfair advantage
that I could have?
934
00:47:32,394 --> 00:47:36,106
And when I found out
that actors didn't like to travel,
935
00:47:36,190 --> 00:47:39,067
I knew anybody who didn't like to travel
was never gonna beat me.
936
00:47:39,151 --> 00:47:42,613
The idea actually came
from Arnold Schwarzenegger.
937
00:47:42,696 --> 00:47:44,198
He turned me onto that.
938
00:47:44,281 --> 00:47:46,700
I walked into a room. You know…
939
00:47:48,202 --> 00:47:50,287
1990, 1991. Something like that.
940
00:47:50,370 --> 00:47:52,664
Fresh Prince was just on.
Just getting started.
941
00:47:52,748 --> 00:47:55,459
It was Arnold, Bruce and Sly.
942
00:47:56,210 --> 00:47:59,087
And I walked up to them,
and I was like, "Hey, look." You know?
943
00:47:59,171 --> 00:48:04,551
"I don't mean to interrupt y'all,
but I want to do what y'all do.
944
00:48:04,635 --> 00:48:08,430
What's the secret? I know you know
something other people don't know."
945
00:48:08,514 --> 00:48:12,559
And Arnold said, [with Austrian accent]
"If you want to be a movie star,
946
00:48:12,643 --> 00:48:14,520
you'll never be a movie star
947
00:48:14,603 --> 00:48:17,648
if your movies
are only successful in America.
948
00:48:17,731 --> 00:48:21,610
Your movies must be successful
everywhere on Earth."
949
00:48:22,277 --> 00:48:24,154
[normal voice] And I was like… [gasps]
950
00:48:24,238 --> 00:48:27,783
Box office-wise, if you're big enough
around the globe,
951
00:48:27,866 --> 00:48:32,287
{\an8}you can flop a movie in America
and still make the studio's money back.
952
00:48:32,371 --> 00:48:34,957
In Europe, Japan…
953
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,710
When Russia opened up, we did one
of the first premieres in Russia.
954
00:48:38,794 --> 00:48:42,339
So, the idea of global success,
955
00:48:42,422 --> 00:48:45,342
the number one everywhere on Earth,
956
00:48:45,425 --> 00:48:48,595
was how I was measuring success.
957
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:53,433
I decided I wanted to be
the most famous actor on Earth.
958
00:48:53,517 --> 00:48:57,104
I didn't want to do one second
959
00:48:57,187 --> 00:48:59,147
of something that was gonna prevent me
960
00:48:59,231 --> 00:49:02,192
from being the biggest movie star
in the world.
961
00:49:02,276 --> 00:49:05,195
And I just… I lived a disciplined life.
962
00:49:05,279 --> 00:49:09,324
And everybody around me
had to live a disciplined life.
963
00:49:09,408 --> 00:49:11,910
If you weren't on this mission,
you couldn't be here.
964
00:49:11,994 --> 00:49:15,247
[crowd cheering]
965
00:49:19,376 --> 00:49:22,504
[Lawrence] Bad Boys was presented
to me back in the day.
966
00:49:22,588 --> 00:49:24,381
It was something I wanted to do.
967
00:49:24,464 --> 00:49:27,968
And we just had to find
the other partner to cast.
968
00:49:28,051 --> 00:49:29,553
And I had Eddie Murphy in mind.
969
00:49:29,636 --> 00:49:33,390
But my sister Rae said, "Martin,
I think you should cast Will for it.
970
00:49:33,473 --> 00:49:34,683
Y'all would be perfect."
971
00:49:34,766 --> 00:49:37,144
So me and Will had a dinner at my house.
972
00:49:37,227 --> 00:49:39,771
And so, you know, once you meet Will…
973
00:49:39,855 --> 00:49:41,190
He's the… He's the best.
974
00:49:41,273 --> 00:49:44,359
I mean, sharp, smart…
How could I say no?
975
00:49:44,443 --> 00:49:46,028
{\an8}Why I gotta be all that?
976
00:49:46,111 --> 00:49:47,112
{\an8}Slow- ass…
977
00:49:47,196 --> 00:49:49,323
{\an8}I'll take you and me
off this fuckin' cliff.
978
00:49:49,406 --> 00:49:50,699
{\an8}- Keep fuckin' with me.
- Yeah.
979
00:49:50,782 --> 00:49:53,076
{\an8}All right? Then it'd be what?
Two bitches in the sea.
980
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,996
- Huh? Is that it? Is that what you want?
- Shut up, Marcus.
981
00:49:56,705 --> 00:49:58,290
My wife knows I ain't no bitch.
982
00:49:58,874 --> 00:49:59,875
[Mike scoffs]
983
00:50:00,459 --> 00:50:02,336
[Marcus] Yeah, I'm a bad boy.
984
00:50:02,419 --> 00:50:06,215
[both] ♪ Bad boys, bad boys
What you gonna do? ♪
985
00:50:06,298 --> 00:50:08,634
♪ What you gonna do
When they come for you ♪
986
00:50:08,717 --> 00:50:14,223
You know, there's a "Black movie" way
that the studios will promote,
987
00:50:14,306 --> 00:50:19,770
and then there's an international,
global, movie-star way
988
00:50:19,853 --> 00:50:21,438
that they promote.
989
00:50:21,522 --> 00:50:26,944
And Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer
had produced Eddie's Beverly Hills Cop.
990
00:50:27,027 --> 00:50:30,781
{\an8}So, Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer knew
991
00:50:30,864 --> 00:50:33,617
{\an8}that Black people
could translate internationally.
992
00:50:34,451 --> 00:50:39,998
And they demanded
that the studio promote Bad Boys
993
00:50:40,082 --> 00:50:44,044
as a global blockbuster.
994
00:50:49,007 --> 00:50:53,178
There were two things that happened
really early in my career
995
00:50:53,262 --> 00:50:55,764
that set the trajectory.
996
00:50:56,723 --> 00:51:00,936
First was Bad Boys wildly overperforming.
997
00:51:01,019 --> 00:51:04,940
{\an8}And then, the year after that
was Independence Day.
998
00:51:06,942 --> 00:51:08,819
{\an8}- [grunts]
- [alien groans]
999
00:51:08,902 --> 00:51:10,112
{\an8}Welcome to Earth.
1000
00:51:10,696 --> 00:51:15,325
Between Bad Boys and Independence Day,
the questions were gone.
1001
00:51:15,409 --> 00:51:21,456
[reporters shouting questions]
1002
00:51:21,874 --> 00:51:25,419
{\an8}[news anchor] Will Smith
as the larger-than-life genie in Aladdin
1003
00:51:25,502 --> 00:51:28,922
{\an8}banked over 207 million dollars worldwide.
1004
00:51:29,006 --> 00:51:30,966
[speaking Japanese]
1005
00:51:35,846 --> 00:51:38,265
[applause]
1006
00:51:38,348 --> 00:51:39,391
[laughs]
1007
00:51:39,474 --> 00:51:43,312
[Smith] I've always looked
at being number one on the call sheet
1008
00:51:43,395 --> 00:51:46,773
as me being the general.
1009
00:51:47,524 --> 00:51:49,860
I had dinner with Colin Powell one time,
1010
00:51:49,943 --> 00:51:54,281
and I was like, "What's the road
to a general? How do you become that?"
1011
00:51:54,364 --> 00:51:58,702
He said, "It means you're good
at a lot of things and great at nothing."
1012
00:51:58,785 --> 00:52:01,496
It was the first time I understood.
1013
00:52:01,580 --> 00:52:05,959
He said, "It's a general
as opposed to a specific."
1014
00:52:06,043 --> 00:52:09,004
I was like, "Oh!"
1015
00:52:10,214 --> 00:52:15,427
It became important to me
to make sure I had some comprehension
1016
00:52:15,511 --> 00:52:20,849
of what it took
to do every single job on the set
1017
00:52:20,933 --> 00:52:25,771
so I could present myself
in the best light to every department
1018
00:52:25,854 --> 00:52:28,482
for the highest probability of success.
1019
00:52:28,565 --> 00:52:31,443
Will took a different route than D,
1020
00:52:31,527 --> 00:52:36,073
in the fact that he was first
on the call sheet but demanded…
1021
00:52:36,156 --> 00:52:39,576
demanded that things be
almost colorless when it comes to me.
1022
00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:41,787
"I'm wrapped in Black,
so that ain't gon' change,
1023
00:52:41,870 --> 00:52:44,456
but I want the same thing
he gettin', I need."
1024
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:48,293
And I just… I applauded that, man.
I watched that from close proximity.
1025
00:52:48,377 --> 00:52:50,879
{\an8}Watching Ali, and how he moved…
1026
00:52:50,963 --> 00:52:52,422
[jump rope thumping]
1027
00:52:53,674 --> 00:52:56,051
You know, to have him say, "Come do it,"
1028
00:52:56,134 --> 00:52:58,095
and Michael Mann's like,
"I don't know who this is."
1029
00:52:58,178 --> 00:53:00,639
And Will Smith saying, "If you won't do
the movie, I won't do the movie."
1030
00:53:00,722 --> 00:53:01,807
That's big.
1031
00:53:01,890 --> 00:53:03,684
And that should be celebrated.
1032
00:53:03,767 --> 00:53:06,311
{\an8}- [doors thud]
- Sonny Liston, you ain't no champ!
1033
00:53:06,395 --> 00:53:09,731
{\an8}You a chump!
Float like a butterfly sting like a bee.
1034
00:53:09,815 --> 00:53:12,860
[in unison] Oh! Rumble,
young man, rumble…
1035
00:53:12,943 --> 00:53:14,736
[Fishburne] I can't do what Will does.
1036
00:53:14,820 --> 00:53:16,238
His focus,
1037
00:53:17,406 --> 00:53:19,074
his drive,
1038
00:53:20,158 --> 00:53:23,620
and his commitment
to whatever it is that he's playing.
1039
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:28,750
His performance in King Richard
is just heartbreakingly beautiful.
1040
00:53:28,834 --> 00:53:31,295
{\an8}Hold it right there if you don't mind.
Let me tell you why.
1041
00:53:31,378 --> 00:53:33,422
{\an8}Richard, we're doing an interview.
1042
00:53:33,505 --> 00:53:37,050
{\an8}What she had said, she said it
with so much confidence the first time,
1043
00:53:37,134 --> 00:53:38,427
but you keep going on and on.
1044
00:53:38,510 --> 00:53:41,263
- But you can't keep interrupting if--
- What you gots to understand
1045
00:53:41,346 --> 00:53:44,349
is you're dealing with the image
of a 14-year-old child.
1046
00:53:45,058 --> 00:53:47,477
You're dealing with a little Black kid.
1047
00:53:47,561 --> 00:53:48,645
Let her be a kid.
1048
00:53:48,729 --> 00:53:50,772
Now, she done answered it
with a lot of confidence.
1049
00:53:50,856 --> 00:53:52,441
Leave that alone!
1050
00:53:54,443 --> 00:53:57,279
Will Smith was my North Star
when I was getting into Hollywood.
1051
00:53:57,362 --> 00:54:01,408
I looked at his career. A global career
of a leading-man movie star.
1052
00:54:01,909 --> 00:54:05,245
And I thought then,
"I would like to do that.
1053
00:54:05,329 --> 00:54:07,164
Only differently and better."
1054
00:54:07,247 --> 00:54:09,208
And that was no disrespect to Will.
1055
00:54:09,291 --> 00:54:13,587
That was, "You're so good,
how can I best that?"
1056
00:54:16,131 --> 00:54:18,133
[shouts with effort]
1057
00:54:21,136 --> 00:54:23,931
Tell me again
why I decided to get on this roof.
1058
00:54:24,014 --> 00:54:27,851
I think you can chalk that up
to bad life choices. [laughs]
1059
00:54:28,685 --> 00:54:31,897
Uh, The Rock?
The biggest movie star in the world?
1060
00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:34,775
[laughing] What else can you say?
1061
00:54:34,858 --> 00:54:38,445
He's the biggest motherfucker
in the world. [chuckles]
1062
00:54:39,821 --> 00:54:41,823
[Johnson] When I first started
my career in Hollywood,
1063
00:54:41,907 --> 00:54:44,243
I had seven bucks in my pocket
when I was cut from the CFL,
1064
00:54:44,326 --> 00:54:45,452
the Canadian Football League.
1065
00:54:45,536 --> 00:54:48,580
So, when I got into wrestling,
I just didn't want to be broke.
1066
00:54:48,914 --> 00:54:50,082
[no audible dialogue]
1067
00:54:50,165 --> 00:54:52,084
I got the call from Lorne Michaels.
1068
00:54:52,626 --> 00:54:54,837
Said, "We'd love to have you
host Saturday Night Live."
1069
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,880
I said, "Wow, I would love that."
1070
00:54:56,964 --> 00:54:58,423
- [cheering]
- [jazzy intro]
1071
00:54:58,507 --> 00:55:02,553
{\an8}[Johnson] Never acted before,
though wrestling is a form of acting.
1072
00:55:02,636 --> 00:55:03,679
Physical acting.
1073
00:55:03,762 --> 00:55:06,098
You see, Nicotrel contains my cravings.
1074
00:55:06,181 --> 00:55:09,017
Now when I want a cigarette--
Oh, God!
1075
00:55:09,101 --> 00:55:10,978
- [whimpers]
- Stop smoking!
1076
00:55:11,061 --> 00:55:13,272
- Ow! Not my face!
- [laughter]
1077
00:55:13,355 --> 00:55:17,109
[Johnson] And it was after that show
that studios and directors
1078
00:55:17,192 --> 00:55:19,778
started to see me in a different way,
in a different light.
1079
00:55:19,862 --> 00:55:23,282
And when I got the call from Universal…
1080
00:55:24,032 --> 00:55:26,702
{\an8}Said, "We have a sequel to The Mummy.
1081
00:55:26,785 --> 00:55:28,120
{\an8}It's called The Mummy Returns.
1082
00:55:28,203 --> 00:55:30,873
{\an8}Would you be willing to get on the phone
with our director, Stephen Sommers?"
1083
00:55:30,956 --> 00:55:32,749
I said, "Sure I would. Of course."
1084
00:55:32,833 --> 00:55:33,917
He called, and he goes,
1085
00:55:34,001 --> 00:55:36,920
"I'd love to have you in the movie
playing the Scorpion King."
1086
00:55:37,629 --> 00:55:40,007
{\an8}- [creature growling]
- [weapons clanging]
1087
00:55:41,758 --> 00:55:44,011
{\an8}[Johnson] We shot it in the Sahara Desert.
1088
00:55:44,094 --> 00:55:46,346
I had maybe three, four days of shooting.
1089
00:55:47,014 --> 00:55:48,056
One line.
1090
00:55:48,140 --> 00:55:50,934
Haku machente!
1091
00:55:51,894 --> 00:55:55,147
And while I was over there, I remember
pulling the director aside and I said,
1092
00:55:55,230 --> 00:55:57,608
"How do you think I did?"
He goes, "That was great."
1093
00:55:57,691 --> 00:56:00,903
I didn't know, 'cause this was
my first time ever on a movie set.
1094
00:56:00,986 --> 00:56:04,948
I said, "Do I need to say more?
Should I have more lines?"
1095
00:56:05,032 --> 00:56:07,034
That's an actor for you. And he goes,
1096
00:56:07,117 --> 00:56:09,369
"You would actually
be fine not saying anything."
1097
00:56:09,453 --> 00:56:11,872
And at first,
I thought he was messing with me.
1098
00:56:11,955 --> 00:56:13,707
He goes, "What I mean by that is,
you can hold the camera.
1099
00:56:16,585 --> 00:56:18,003
And you're gonna hold the screen."
1100
00:56:18,545 --> 00:56:20,923
- [whispers] Boo.
- [people screaming]
1101
00:56:21,006 --> 00:56:23,800
I started to reevaluate my plan
1102
00:56:23,884 --> 00:56:27,387
when the movies that we're making
were doing okay.
1103
00:56:27,471 --> 00:56:29,389
They were doing okay business.
1104
00:56:29,473 --> 00:56:31,683
Barely turning a profit, if we're lucky.
1105
00:56:32,643 --> 00:56:37,022
I was buying into,
"Well, don't call yourself The Rock.
1106
00:56:37,105 --> 00:56:38,690
Don't talk about wrestling.
1107
00:56:38,774 --> 00:56:40,817
Maybe you should go on a diet.
You're too big."
1108
00:56:40,901 --> 00:56:43,028
If those other guys,
1109
00:56:43,111 --> 00:56:46,323
the Will Smiths and Johnny Depps
and George Clooneys and those guys,
1110
00:56:46,406 --> 00:56:49,034
if they're the biggest stars in the world
and that's your North Star,
1111
00:56:49,117 --> 00:56:52,704
if I want to be like them,
then I got to be like them.
1112
00:56:52,788 --> 00:56:56,917
That was a time where I felt like
I was really kinda getting kicked around.
1113
00:56:59,419 --> 00:57:02,339
Then I realized I was really
allowing myself to get kicked around.
1114
00:57:02,881 --> 00:57:04,967
- [snaps fingers]
- It was like an "ah-ha" moment.
1115
00:57:09,638 --> 00:57:11,390
Well, I'm not them,
and I'm never gonna be them.
1116
00:57:12,683 --> 00:57:15,143
I'm me, I'm gonna be me.
1117
00:57:15,227 --> 00:57:17,062
[grunting]
1118
00:57:17,145 --> 00:57:18,814
[Johnson] This is what I like to do.
1119
00:57:18,897 --> 00:57:21,275
This is my past,
and I'm proud of my past.
1120
00:57:21,358 --> 00:57:24,069
I realized that I need to be myself
in Hollywood.
1121
00:57:26,488 --> 00:57:29,616
The first movie coming out
of that time
1122
00:57:29,700 --> 00:57:32,661
was Fast & Furious Five.
1123
00:57:32,744 --> 00:57:35,706
It was my very first time
in the franchise.
1124
00:57:35,789 --> 00:57:37,499
We created a new character called Hobbs,
1125
00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:40,043
and in that role,
1126
00:57:40,127 --> 00:57:43,046
I was able to be authentically me,
1127
00:57:43,130 --> 00:57:45,299
one hundred percent me.
1128
00:57:45,382 --> 00:57:47,217
{\an8}If there's anything we can do to help--
1129
00:57:47,301 --> 00:57:49,720
{\an8}Two things: One, I need a translator.
1130
00:57:49,803 --> 00:57:52,097
{\an8}- Claro, we have in public relations--
- Elena Neves.
1131
00:57:53,765 --> 00:57:55,601
[police chief] But why? We have many more
experienced people.
1132
00:57:55,684 --> 00:57:57,394
I like her smile.
1133
00:57:58,145 --> 00:57:59,813
What's the second thing?
1134
00:58:01,398 --> 00:58:02,983
Stay the fuck outta my way.
1135
00:58:04,151 --> 00:58:08,155
And the funny thing happened:
Hollywood conformed around me,
1136
00:58:08,238 --> 00:58:10,908
and things started to move
in a different direction.
1137
00:58:12,075 --> 00:58:15,037
Success is the road you travel.
1138
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,040
Did you get up today
and work towards your dream,
1139
00:58:18,123 --> 00:58:19,625
or did you sit back and did you complain?
1140
00:58:19,708 --> 00:58:21,168
'Cause that's wasted time.
1141
00:58:21,251 --> 00:58:25,255
My brother Keenen said,
"In this journey as an artist,
1142
00:58:25,339 --> 00:58:27,758
you're as great as you work to be,"
1143
00:58:27,841 --> 00:58:33,263
and you have to be
an undeniable force of nature
1144
00:58:33,347 --> 00:58:37,309
to make it in this industry,
especially if you are Black.
1145
00:58:38,101 --> 00:58:40,437
[imitating Keenen] You can listen to me,
1146
00:58:40,521 --> 00:58:42,814
or you can wait for life to knock.
1147
00:58:42,898 --> 00:58:45,692
And when life knocks, it's unforgiving.
1148
00:58:45,776 --> 00:58:48,654
Are you gonna talk to me,
or are you gonna talk to God?
1149
00:58:48,737 --> 00:58:50,572
God's only telling me what to tell you.
1150
00:58:50,656 --> 00:58:52,741
And if you make God scream,
1151
00:58:52,824 --> 00:58:55,327
you ain't gonna like it, baby brother.
1152
00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:57,454
If you're in this business
for a long time,
1153
00:58:57,538 --> 00:58:59,331
you learn all that stuff.
1154
00:58:59,414 --> 00:59:01,458
You just get a wisdom
that gets added to you
1155
00:59:01,542 --> 00:59:03,961
just from being in the mix.
1156
00:59:04,711 --> 00:59:07,965
I had people ask me,
"Are you gonna do something serious?
1157
00:59:08,048 --> 00:59:11,552
Like, doing a drama is different
from doing a comedy."
1158
00:59:11,635 --> 00:59:13,679
And I'm like,
it's all the same shit to me.
1159
00:59:13,762 --> 00:59:15,472
It's all just acting.
1160
00:59:15,556 --> 00:59:19,476
[Murphy] The movies that I've done
that have been really successful
1161
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,603
have had all of those elements in it.
1162
00:59:21,687 --> 00:59:25,107
Even though the movie might be a comedy
at the center of it,
1163
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:30,153
you'll have stuff in it that's some drama
and some stuff that's heartfelt.
1164
00:59:30,237 --> 00:59:33,240
You take a movie like Raging Bull,
1165
00:59:34,157 --> 00:59:37,786
- and you take a movie like The Grinch.
- I've got all the company I need.
1166
00:59:37,870 --> 00:59:41,248
It's like, hey, what Jim Carrey is doing
1167
00:59:41,331 --> 00:59:44,293
is just as hard
as what Robert De Niro is doing.
1168
00:59:44,376 --> 00:59:47,504
[Hudlin] When Jim Carrey talks
out of his ass, I go…
1169
00:59:47,588 --> 00:59:49,214
Hey, man, some time went into that.
1170
00:59:49,298 --> 00:59:52,009
You don't just reach over
and start talking out your ass.
1171
00:59:52,551 --> 00:59:54,678
{\an8}All right, that's it!
1172
00:59:54,761 --> 00:59:58,307
{\an8}Now it's my turn!
Five minutes alone! That's all I need!
1173
00:59:58,390 --> 01:00:00,309
To be comfortable enough
to make that choice,
1174
01:00:00,392 --> 01:00:02,102
you have to put some time in.
1175
01:00:02,186 --> 01:00:04,021
You don't just start talking out your ass.
1176
01:00:04,104 --> 01:00:06,481
Meryl Streep don't talk out her ass, huh?
1177
01:00:07,024 --> 01:00:08,942
De Niro don't talk out his ass.
1178
01:00:09,735 --> 01:00:11,904
[chuckling]
1179
01:00:11,987 --> 01:00:13,989
[hip-hop beat playing]
1180
01:00:21,663 --> 01:00:23,248
[Hudlin] As we move into the new century,
1181
01:00:23,332 --> 01:00:26,335
the major movie studios are really
focused on making movies
1182
01:00:26,418 --> 01:00:29,296
with the biggest movie stars they can get,
Black or white.
1183
01:00:29,379 --> 01:00:31,715
So it really made it hard
for that next generation
1184
01:00:31,798 --> 01:00:33,634
to find the right vehicle
to break through.
1185
01:00:33,717 --> 01:00:38,096
However, there were a bunch
of low-budget romantic comedies
1186
01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:39,932
using Black casts
1187
01:00:40,015 --> 01:00:43,101
that were the launching pad
for the next generation
1188
01:00:43,185 --> 01:00:44,853
of big movie stars.
1189
01:00:45,938 --> 01:00:48,732
[Hudlin] Who's your Mount Rushmore?
That's an American--
1190
01:00:48,815 --> 01:00:51,360
- Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to…
- [Hudlin laughs]
1191
01:00:51,443 --> 01:00:53,403
I'm cultured, my guy.
1192
01:00:53,487 --> 01:00:56,365
I'm cultured, you know.
I know what Mount Rushmore is, my guy.
1193
01:00:56,782 --> 01:01:00,244
You know what I mean? I read.
Know what I'm saying? Know what I mean?
1194
01:01:01,370 --> 01:01:03,455
Mount Rushmore. Denzel Washington.
1195
01:01:03,539 --> 01:01:05,374
Oh, mate. Sidney Poitier.
1196
01:01:06,667 --> 01:01:09,294
Samuel L. Jackson.
I'd have to say Jamie Foxx.
1197
01:01:09,378 --> 01:01:12,381
I'm not just saying that 'cause
he's producing this. Know what I mean?
1198
01:01:12,464 --> 01:01:14,758
[laughs]
1199
01:01:14,842 --> 01:01:16,844
[upbeat music playing]
1200
01:01:18,428 --> 01:01:20,389
There it is, champ. Stay on your toes now.
1201
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:26,270
You are a stone-cold fox.
1202
01:01:32,818 --> 01:01:34,570
I liked you better before.
1203
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:37,948
[cries out]
1204
01:01:39,449 --> 01:01:42,452
First of all, the way you know
your movie's good or not is always TSA.
1205
01:01:42,536 --> 01:01:44,788
You're going through TSA, and--
"Come on through.
1206
01:01:44,872 --> 01:01:49,168
Foxx, man, what the hell happened
with that last movie you had out? Man!"
1207
01:01:49,251 --> 01:01:52,171
- [imitates machine whirring]
- "Shit, man. I had to get my money back."
1208
01:01:52,254 --> 01:01:53,630
[laughs]
1209
01:01:53,714 --> 01:01:56,300
Or if you did something good--
"Man, I loved Django.
1210
01:01:56,383 --> 01:01:59,136
You killed all them white motherfuckers."
That type of shit.
1211
01:02:00,971 --> 01:02:04,016
{\an8}- [women screaming]
- [man groaning]
1212
01:02:04,099 --> 01:02:06,059
{\an8}Last time I seen you,
1213
01:02:06,143 --> 01:02:08,312
you had your hands on my--
1214
01:02:08,395 --> 01:02:10,606
- [groans]
- [screaming]
1215
01:02:10,689 --> 01:02:12,691
[shouting in pain]
1216
01:02:13,859 --> 01:02:16,153
[Foxx] I envisioned a life of this,
1217
01:02:16,236 --> 01:02:18,739
but I didn't think
it would quite go this way.
1218
01:02:18,822 --> 01:02:22,618
My biggest influences were music.
1219
01:02:22,701 --> 01:02:26,747
It was Stevie Wonder. It was the Winans.
1220
01:02:26,830 --> 01:02:30,250
Lionel Richie.
"Lynell" is what we called him in Texas.
1221
01:02:30,334 --> 01:02:32,085
In Terrell, you say "Lynells."
1222
01:02:32,169 --> 01:02:33,962
I wanted to be like them.
I wanted to be a singer.
1223
01:02:34,463 --> 01:02:37,508
And so I envisioned being Lionel Richie.
1224
01:02:37,591 --> 01:02:39,092
I mean, I had the curl.
1225
01:02:39,176 --> 01:02:42,137
California curl, as a matter of fact.
Low in the front, long in the back.
1226
01:02:42,221 --> 01:02:44,932
From the side, it looked like a Z/28.
That's a whole different thing.
1227
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:46,975
But I wanted to be that.
1228
01:02:47,059 --> 01:02:49,228
And when that didn't happen,
1229
01:02:49,728 --> 01:02:52,523
I had to make other moves,
other artistic moves.
1230
01:02:52,606 --> 01:02:54,858
You know, comedy, so forth.
1231
01:02:54,942 --> 01:02:56,902
{\an8}Now let's meet our new bachelorette.
1232
01:02:56,985 --> 01:03:00,447
{\an8}- Please welcome Miss Wanda Wayne!
- [game show music plays]
1233
01:03:01,281 --> 01:03:03,742
{\an8}- Holy crap!
- [audience laughs, exclaims]
1234
01:03:05,369 --> 01:03:06,370
Hi!
1235
01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:08,413
Bachelor number one,
this is your question.
1236
01:03:08,497 --> 01:03:12,835
If I had a tattoo of the United States
all over my body,
1237
01:03:12,918 --> 01:03:15,838
which area of the country
would you go visit?
1238
01:03:15,921 --> 01:03:17,589
I'm going to Europe.
1239
01:03:17,673 --> 01:03:19,883
[audience laughing]
1240
01:03:22,970 --> 01:03:24,847
I knew I was different
when I did Any Given Sunday.
1241
01:03:26,014 --> 01:03:28,267
I just knew this is the moment,
1242
01:03:28,350 --> 01:03:31,895
the opportunity to be working
with Oliver Stone,
1243
01:03:31,979 --> 01:03:37,109
who is beyond a master at his craft.
1244
01:03:37,192 --> 01:03:40,487
Even meeting Al Pacino was fucking like,
you know…
1245
01:03:40,571 --> 01:03:42,030
Sat with him.
1246
01:03:42,114 --> 01:03:43,574
Learned a lot.
1247
01:03:43,657 --> 01:03:45,367
{\an8}All you do is talk at me, man.
1248
01:03:45,450 --> 01:03:47,995
{\an8}So I'm gonna stay who I am--
Steamin' Willie Beamen.
1249
01:03:49,329 --> 01:03:51,790
{\an8}With the time I got left,
I'm gonna play my way,
1250
01:03:51,874 --> 01:03:53,500
get my dollars up,
1251
01:03:53,584 --> 01:03:55,836
so when you waive me, trade me,
injured-reserve me,
1252
01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:59,214
or whatever the fuck y'all do,
I'll be worth ten times what I was worth
1253
01:03:59,298 --> 01:04:01,133
before I got here.
1254
01:04:01,216 --> 01:04:03,010
With that movie, it changed.
1255
01:04:03,093 --> 01:04:07,139
I was able to adjust my satellite a bit
1256
01:04:07,222 --> 01:04:11,560
and now take on more dramatic roles,
which actually helped me.
1257
01:04:12,728 --> 01:04:14,313
{\an8}What's with you?
1258
01:04:14,855 --> 01:04:15,689
{\an8}As in?
1259
01:04:16,273 --> 01:04:18,108
{\an8}As in, if somebody had a gun to your head,
1260
01:04:18,192 --> 01:04:20,986
said, "You got to tell me what's going on
with this person over here,
1261
01:04:21,069 --> 01:04:22,863
or I'm gonna kill you,
1262
01:04:23,864 --> 01:04:26,867
what is driving him,
what was he thinking?"
1263
01:04:26,950 --> 01:04:28,994
You couldn't do it, could you, because…
1264
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:31,538
…they would have to kill your ass
because you don't know
1265
01:04:31,622 --> 01:04:35,125
what anyone else is thinking.
1266
01:04:36,919 --> 01:04:39,963
[Foxx] I couldn't believe
the freedoms of it.
1267
01:04:40,923 --> 01:04:45,719
I said, "Oh, man, I'm looking so forward
to the next character."
1268
01:04:45,802 --> 01:04:47,012
Oh, Jamie's--
1269
01:04:47,095 --> 01:04:52,226
{\an8}In my top five all-time great performances
is Ray Charles.
1270
01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:55,479
{\an8}It's just one of the best
performances ever.
1271
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:59,650
{\an8}Don't think I'm unappreciative of
everything you guys have done here, Jerry.
1272
01:04:59,733 --> 01:05:02,444
{\an8}I'm very proud of the work
we've done here together,
1273
01:05:02,528 --> 01:05:05,197
but Atlantic has done pretty good
money-wise on my records, haven't they?
1274
01:05:05,739 --> 01:05:07,616
Yes, we've done very well, Ray.
1275
01:05:07,699 --> 01:05:10,452
You were the ones that taught me
that making a record is business.
1276
01:05:10,536 --> 01:05:12,454
Find the best business deal you can.
1277
01:05:12,538 --> 01:05:16,124
Now, 75 cents of every dollar
and owning my own masters
1278
01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:18,001
is a pretty damn good deal.
1279
01:05:18,961 --> 01:05:20,128
Can you match it?
1280
01:05:20,212 --> 01:05:21,839
I remember doing Ray,
1281
01:05:21,922 --> 01:05:26,343
and I remember Terrence Howard and
Larenz Tate not quite knowing what it was.
1282
01:05:26,426 --> 01:05:27,427
[piano playing]
1283
01:05:27,511 --> 01:05:31,056
I remember Terrence Howard--
"What's going on with you, man?
1284
01:05:31,723 --> 01:05:34,101
This is gonna be interesting.
1285
01:05:34,184 --> 01:05:36,478
This is gonna be something else, man."
1286
01:05:36,562 --> 01:05:38,564
But then when I walked out as Ray
1287
01:05:38,647 --> 01:05:42,442
and said, "You know what?
Everything's gonna be all right.
1288
01:05:42,526 --> 01:05:44,945
[stuttering]
You ready to start the scene…?"
1289
01:05:45,737 --> 01:05:47,948
And I couldn't see him, but I felt him go,
1290
01:05:48,532 --> 01:05:50,534
"What the fuck?"
1291
01:05:50,617 --> 01:05:54,162
And so I think that's my superpower,
is to disappear.
1292
01:05:54,246 --> 01:05:56,832
[singing together]
1293
01:06:00,836 --> 01:06:02,254
Yeah!
1294
01:06:02,337 --> 01:06:05,966
Jamie Foxx is one of the most
1295
01:06:06,049 --> 01:06:11,722
multitalented individuals
you will ever meet in your life.
1296
01:06:11,805 --> 01:06:14,349
He can do standup,
1297
01:06:14,433 --> 01:06:16,351
he can do Shakespeare,
1298
01:06:16,435 --> 01:06:19,104
a beautiful ballad on the piano,
1299
01:06:19,188 --> 01:06:21,773
standing up, holding court.
1300
01:06:21,857 --> 01:06:26,278
Any set that Jamie's on,
Jamie runs the set.
1301
01:06:26,653 --> 01:06:30,282
Had a chance to meet Jamie many years ago,
and he was always great and gracious.
1302
01:06:30,365 --> 01:06:32,326
And I'll also say this about Jamie:
1303
01:06:32,409 --> 01:06:35,204
When I got into Hollywood,
he was already in Hollywood,
1304
01:06:35,287 --> 01:06:38,498
and he was already dominating
at that time.
1305
01:06:38,582 --> 01:06:41,418
It's one thing when I get into Hollywood
1306
01:06:41,502 --> 01:06:45,380
and say, for example, I see Stallone
and Arnold, who are welcoming to me.
1307
01:06:45,464 --> 01:06:49,551
I think it's another thing when
I meet Jamie, as another man of color,
1308
01:06:49,635 --> 01:06:51,303
and he's already on top.
1309
01:06:51,386 --> 01:06:52,971
And for him to be welcoming to me,
1310
01:06:53,055 --> 01:06:55,098
I just always remember,
I never forgot that.
1311
01:06:55,182 --> 01:06:59,102
On camera, off camera,
he's the perfect scene partner.
1312
01:06:59,186 --> 01:07:02,189
He gives you exactly what you need,
he knows what you need as a character,
1313
01:07:02,272 --> 01:07:04,900
and he'll tee it up for you.
1314
01:07:04,983 --> 01:07:06,652
Perfect wingman, you know?
1315
01:07:06,735 --> 01:07:10,155
I think Jamie's all around
just a great human.
1316
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:14,785
And I think that humanity,
that empathy he has as a person,
1317
01:07:14,868 --> 01:07:17,246
is one of the things that makes him
such a great actor.
1318
01:07:18,956 --> 01:07:20,332
[Foxx] It's the characters, man.
1319
01:07:20,832 --> 01:07:23,252
Look at Django,
1320
01:07:23,335 --> 01:07:26,463
Willie Beamen, "Bundini" Brown.
1321
01:07:26,547 --> 01:07:29,716
All of these different characters
is my wheelhouse.
1322
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,593
So now I'm hanging them up.
1323
01:07:31,677 --> 01:07:35,013
I've been lucky and fortunate enough
to hang them all up.
1324
01:07:35,097 --> 01:07:39,768
Whenever that time comes where I say,
"Okay, I got to pull it back,"
1325
01:07:39,852 --> 01:07:43,355
I want to be able to look
at all those characters and say,
1326
01:07:43,438 --> 01:07:45,023
"I disappeared, man."
1327
01:07:45,691 --> 01:07:48,944
By being able to be in the position
that I'm in now,
1328
01:07:49,027 --> 01:07:50,571
you feel good.
1329
01:07:50,654 --> 01:07:53,532
When you see Michael B. Jordan
in Just Mercy
1330
01:07:53,615 --> 01:07:55,576
who goes for the character,
1331
01:07:55,659 --> 01:07:58,203
who's not worried about his persona.
1332
01:07:58,287 --> 01:08:00,747
You feel good about seeing
these young guys.
1333
01:08:00,831 --> 01:08:04,543
If I could ever help them,
I'm always there to do it.
1334
01:08:04,626 --> 01:08:07,838
Hey, Mom. Well, get on through here, then.
1335
01:08:08,797 --> 01:08:10,215
That's the genesis.
1336
01:08:10,299 --> 01:08:12,301
[laughter]
1337
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:15,220
My mom lives with me,
1338
01:08:15,304 --> 01:08:16,805
my stepfather lives with me,
1339
01:08:16,889 --> 01:08:19,640
my niece, nephew, their parents,
1340
01:08:19,725 --> 01:08:23,520
my daughter, my sister--
everybody lives here.
1341
01:08:23,604 --> 01:08:26,439
My sister, who's from south Dallas,
in the hood,
1342
01:08:26,523 --> 01:08:29,318
now she works on all the Marvel films,
doing hair.
1343
01:08:29,401 --> 01:08:33,529
My daughter runs part of my company,
with Datari.
1344
01:08:33,613 --> 01:08:37,033
My other daughter is one of the youngest
in the Writers' Guild.
1345
01:08:37,117 --> 01:08:40,412
So by having this,
you give up certain things.
1346
01:08:40,495 --> 01:08:45,125
Like, maybe you are giving up
the cookie-cutter lifestyle
1347
01:08:45,209 --> 01:08:47,961
of normalcy,
1348
01:08:48,045 --> 01:08:50,671
but you don't want no stories.
1349
01:08:50,756 --> 01:08:53,133
You know, when people,
when they're not here,
1350
01:08:53,216 --> 01:08:55,511
they, "Mm-hmm, I'm gonna tell you
what he really is."
1351
01:08:55,594 --> 01:08:57,970
Then the TMZ, you hear that sound--
[imitating percussive TMZ theme]
1352
01:08:58,055 --> 01:09:01,767
You don't want that. Hate that sound.
Especially when it's about me.
1353
01:09:01,850 --> 01:09:06,145
[Hudlin] Will, talk a little bit about
how family has affected your journey.
1354
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:07,231
Mm-hmm.
1355
01:09:07,314 --> 01:09:09,399
It was probably… [sighs]
1356
01:09:10,234 --> 01:09:12,569
…Willow's "Whip My Hair."
1357
01:09:12,653 --> 01:09:14,613
♪ I whip my hair back and forth… ♪
1358
01:09:14,696 --> 01:09:15,948
[Smith] It was 2010.
1359
01:09:16,031 --> 01:09:19,368
I'll never forget
we were in Dublin, Ireland,
1360
01:09:19,451 --> 01:09:21,161
and Willow comes offstage.
1361
01:09:21,245 --> 01:09:24,747
She was on tour with Justin Bieber.
Hit record.
1362
01:09:24,831 --> 01:09:29,627
20,000 kids whipping their hair in Dublin.
1363
01:09:29,711 --> 01:09:32,798
And she comes offstage and was like,
"I'm done, Daddy."
1364
01:09:32,881 --> 01:09:34,800
I was like,
"Yeah, baby, that was a great show."
1365
01:09:34,883 --> 01:09:37,678
She was like, "No, I mean I'm done.
I'm ready to go home."
1366
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:42,599
And I was like, "Well, no,
you can't go home, sweetie.
1367
01:09:42,683 --> 01:09:46,060
You promised Mr. Jay-Z
that you were gonna do
1368
01:09:46,144 --> 01:09:48,397
these 30 days of this tour."
1369
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,108
She said,
"No, Daddy, you promised Mr. Jay-Z."
1370
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:54,820
And I was like, "Sweetie, I get it,
1371
01:09:54,903 --> 01:09:58,615
but we promised as a family,
and you have to finish."
1372
01:09:59,408 --> 01:10:02,744
She looked at me-- I'll never forget
the look in her eyes. And she was like,
1373
01:10:02,828 --> 01:10:05,581
"It doesn't matter to you
that I'm finished, Daddy?"
1374
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,628
And I was like, "Yes, sweetie, it matters,
but you can't be finished."
1375
01:10:11,712 --> 01:10:13,714
She was like, "Oh, okay."
1376
01:10:14,256 --> 01:10:17,551
So we go back to the hotel,
and Jada had just left.
1377
01:10:17,634 --> 01:10:20,179
So I'm there.
It's my first night of daddy duty.
1378
01:10:20,262 --> 01:10:24,057
And she came out the next morning,
and she had shaved her head bald.
1379
01:10:25,058 --> 01:10:28,103
In the middle of her "Whip My Hair" tour,
1380
01:10:28,187 --> 01:10:30,647
she shaved her head bald.
1381
01:10:30,731 --> 01:10:34,234
And it was, like, a magical moment.
1382
01:10:34,318 --> 01:10:37,070
I was like, "Got it."
1383
01:10:37,154 --> 01:10:40,032
I used to think, in order for it to work,
1384
01:10:40,115 --> 01:10:42,618
in order for family
and a marriage to work,
1385
01:10:42,701 --> 01:10:45,579
things have to be
a little bit compartmentalized
1386
01:10:45,662 --> 01:10:47,372
and perhaps even separated.
1387
01:10:47,456 --> 01:10:49,958
Let me get to whatever location
I need to get to,
1388
01:10:50,042 --> 01:10:52,127
let me get settled,
let the crew get settled,
1389
01:10:52,211 --> 01:10:53,587
and then we'll bring you in.
1390
01:10:53,670 --> 01:10:55,464
I did that for a long time.
1391
01:10:55,547 --> 01:11:01,345
That, and some other reasons
led to the dissolving of the marriage.
1392
01:11:02,179 --> 01:11:04,890
Our daughter, Simone,
was maybe five or six years old,
1393
01:11:04,973 --> 01:11:07,476
and I found myself in a position where
1394
01:11:07,559 --> 01:11:10,562
now there's a strong possibility
there's gonna be somebody else,
1395
01:11:10,646 --> 01:11:12,856
another male figure in her life
whose gonna help raise her
1396
01:11:12,940 --> 01:11:14,483
even though I'm still here in her life.
1397
01:11:14,566 --> 01:11:17,945
And I'm trying to figure out my own life,
so, I went through all that.
1398
01:11:18,028 --> 01:11:22,616
Now, fortunately enough,
I've been blessed with two more babies
1399
01:11:22,699 --> 01:11:25,244
and you realize, man, this time around,
1400
01:11:25,911 --> 01:11:28,372
I go somewhere, we all go somewhere.
1401
01:11:28,455 --> 01:11:30,415
If I go for six months, then,
1402
01:11:31,416 --> 01:11:33,460
we all go, [laughs] for six months.
1403
01:11:34,211 --> 01:11:36,213
And we keep that nucleus tight.
1404
01:11:36,964 --> 01:11:39,883
It's okay to be ambitious
but what I've learned over time is
1405
01:11:39,967 --> 01:11:42,594
we gotta do all we can to make sure
that everything is good at home.
1406
01:11:42,678 --> 01:11:44,680
My daughter drives.
1407
01:11:45,722 --> 01:11:47,724
My daughter's 17, driving.
1408
01:11:48,684 --> 01:11:51,144
To school, from school.
Takes her brother to school.
1409
01:11:51,228 --> 01:11:53,814
"Come on, dude, you're gonna ride with me.
I'll pick you up."
1410
01:11:53,897 --> 01:11:55,190
"Dad, is it cool if me and my friends,
1411
01:11:55,274 --> 01:11:57,067
we just gonna go to Malibu,
we gonna hang out?"
1412
01:11:57,150 --> 01:11:58,527
[sighing]
1413
01:12:00,654 --> 01:12:01,780
[grunting]
1414
01:12:02,948 --> 01:12:04,992
Yeah.
1415
01:12:05,075 --> 01:12:06,910
I didn't have a fucking car
in high school.
1416
01:12:06,994 --> 01:12:08,495
I don't know one person.
1417
01:12:08,579 --> 01:12:10,998
I don't think--
I'm gonna be honest with you.
1418
01:12:11,081 --> 01:12:13,750
I'm gonna say this as a fact.
1419
01:12:13,834 --> 01:12:16,879
{\an8}I was at George Washington High School
in the Northeast.
1420
01:12:17,004 --> 01:12:22,134
There was not one Black kid
at this school with a car.
1421
01:12:22,217 --> 01:12:23,969
It was unheard of.
1422
01:12:24,845 --> 01:12:27,890
In our neighborhood, none of us had cars.
1423
01:12:27,973 --> 01:12:30,434
All we had was the bike and a jump rope.
1424
01:12:30,517 --> 01:12:32,644
And shit that we had to make
on the ground.
1425
01:12:32,728 --> 01:12:35,814
Illegally cut on fire hydrants
and play with the water.
1426
01:12:35,898 --> 01:12:39,109
They got pools. [laughs]
What are you talking about?
1427
01:12:40,068 --> 01:12:43,363
Why? Why would I wanna leave this house?
I wouldn't want to leave either.
1428
01:12:44,072 --> 01:12:46,575
I couldn't wait to get
the fuck out of my goddamn
1429
01:12:46,658 --> 01:12:48,493
one room efficiency.
1430
01:12:49,786 --> 01:12:51,914
I'm looking in real-time at the change.
1431
01:12:52,497 --> 01:12:55,792
You know, I want my kids
to have the best opportunities.
1432
01:12:55,876 --> 01:12:57,294
I want my kids to…
1433
01:12:58,128 --> 01:12:59,505
I want them to know
that life doesn't come easy.
1434
01:12:59,588 --> 01:13:01,215
It's not given, it's earned.
1435
01:13:01,298 --> 01:13:04,760
{\an8}We take a trip, you know,
we take a real trip to Philadelphia
1436
01:13:04,843 --> 01:13:08,514
{\an8}uh, and you know, we land, and I say,
"I'm gonna show you where I grew up."
1437
01:13:08,597 --> 01:13:10,766
I'm like, "Look, I didn't have, okay?
1438
01:13:10,849 --> 01:13:13,352
Look, this is-- This is the grass.
1439
01:13:13,435 --> 01:13:16,271
See these little things,
this is all the grass we had.
1440
01:13:16,355 --> 01:13:19,066
I had to sit on the step,
I waited for the bus here,
1441
01:13:19,149 --> 01:13:21,151
I walked two and a half miles
1442
01:13:21,235 --> 01:13:24,613
to get from here to where
I had to go to meet my mom.
1443
01:13:24,696 --> 01:13:27,199
This was not a situation
that you were comfortable in."
1444
01:13:27,282 --> 01:13:31,161
And I get done and my kids are like,
[yells] "We wanna live here."
1445
01:13:32,496 --> 01:13:34,998
Just trying to change the narrative…
1446
01:13:35,958 --> 01:13:38,252
…attached to family wealth.
1447
01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:40,838
[upbeat music plays]
1448
01:13:40,921 --> 01:13:43,298
Yes, cake is my weakness.
1449
01:13:43,382 --> 01:13:46,927
- Along with speed and strength.
- Huh.
1450
01:13:48,971 --> 01:13:50,389
[Jordan] Love Kev, man.
1451
01:13:50,472 --> 01:13:52,140
He's extremely talented.
1452
01:13:52,224 --> 01:13:54,518
And continues pushing himself,
he's never satisfied.
1453
01:13:54,601 --> 01:13:57,229
You know, he has an engine
that just won't stop.
1454
01:13:57,312 --> 01:14:00,524
Let me ask you a serious question,
do you think I look like Idris Elba?
1455
01:14:00,607 --> 01:14:03,402
'Cause a stripper at the club,
"Sweaty Crack", told me that last night.
1456
01:14:03,485 --> 01:14:05,863
I had a lot of ones, so I don't know
if she was trying to play me.
1457
01:14:05,946 --> 01:14:09,116
Most comedians aren't really good actors.
1458
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:12,786
Kevin is a good actor,
funny, can do stand-up,
1459
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:15,038
family-oriented, hard-working,
1460
01:14:15,122 --> 01:14:17,374
Kevin Hart is… [imitates Poitier]
"a breath of fresh air,
1461
01:14:17,457 --> 01:14:18,959
and don't you fuck with that!"
1462
01:14:19,042 --> 01:14:21,795
No! [laughs]
1463
01:14:21,879 --> 01:14:25,757
You can't deny talent. Talent is talent.
1464
01:14:25,841 --> 01:14:29,928
I don't care what talent we've seen,
if they were talented,
1465
01:14:30,012 --> 01:14:32,181
talent's gonna get multiple shots.
1466
01:14:33,348 --> 01:14:36,894
My starring roles
in the beginning of my career,
1467
01:14:36,977 --> 01:14:40,230
all of them came with dud effects,
if you really wanna be honest.
1468
01:14:41,481 --> 01:14:44,651
Paper Soldiers,
I was number one on the call sheet.
1469
01:14:44,735 --> 01:14:47,487
All right, this is it. Well, it wasn't.
1470
01:14:47,571 --> 01:14:52,492
{\an8}Big House, my TV show, I was the star,
I was the creator, writer, okay.
1471
01:14:52,576 --> 01:14:54,119
This is it.
1472
01:14:54,203 --> 01:14:56,163
Well, it wasn't.
1473
01:14:56,246 --> 01:14:59,958
Soul Plane, here we go.
Hell, yeah. This is the one.
1474
01:15:00,501 --> 01:15:02,169
It wasn't.
1475
01:15:02,252 --> 01:15:04,421
These were all things I was hoping
would be the thing to pop me.
1476
01:15:04,505 --> 01:15:06,298
None of it stuck.
1477
01:15:06,381 --> 01:15:08,800
[Hudlin]
Except for The 40-Year-Old Virgin?
1478
01:15:08,884 --> 01:15:10,385
40-Year-Old-- Here's the thing.
1479
01:15:10,469 --> 01:15:13,722
40-Year-Old Virgin
didn't necessarily stick,
1480
01:15:13,805 --> 01:15:15,265
it's an accident.
1481
01:15:15,349 --> 01:15:19,228
This is what made me realize
that the things that are going to act
1482
01:15:19,311 --> 01:15:23,232
as propelling moments for you
in your career, you're not going to see.
1483
01:15:24,525 --> 01:15:25,817
{\an8}40-Year-Old Virgin came up,
1484
01:15:25,901 --> 01:15:29,071
{\an8}the part that Romany ended up getting,
I was up for.
1485
01:15:29,154 --> 01:15:32,199
It was between me and Romany.
I have to get this.
1486
01:15:32,282 --> 01:15:35,452
Judd Apatow has been
a believer in me from day one.
1487
01:15:36,828 --> 01:15:39,873
Judd's my guy, there's no way
I'm not gonna get this.
1488
01:15:39,957 --> 01:15:42,417
I don't fucking get it.
What the fuck is wrong with this town?
1489
01:15:42,501 --> 01:15:44,837
I see the movie. Romany was way better.
1490
01:15:45,462 --> 01:15:47,256
{\an8}Welcome to Smart Tech.
1491
01:15:47,339 --> 01:15:48,507
{\an8}Is this your boy?
1492
01:15:48,590 --> 01:15:50,634
{\an8}Yeah, nigga, we will both mash you!
1493
01:15:50,717 --> 01:15:52,344
{\an8}- What?
- How can we help you, sir?
1494
01:15:52,427 --> 01:15:54,763
No, no. He don't need no help,
he's already been served.
1495
01:15:54,847 --> 01:15:57,808
I served him. He's taken care of.
He a little slow, but he got it.
1496
01:15:57,891 --> 01:16:00,394
What he thought was he can
come up in here and make the rules.
1497
01:16:00,477 --> 01:16:03,021
But now he see that Jay
make the rules at Smart Tech…
1498
01:16:03,105 --> 01:16:05,858
that I run this bitch
and now he 'bout to bounce.
1499
01:16:07,317 --> 01:16:08,443
This your boy?
1500
01:16:08,527 --> 01:16:10,988
Yeah, that's my boy, nigga.
We represent Smart Tech.
1501
01:16:11,071 --> 01:16:12,656
You just got fucked up with him.
1502
01:16:12,739 --> 01:16:14,908
Both y'all niggas going get clapped up
when I get back.
1503
01:16:16,451 --> 01:16:17,703
Both of y'all niggas.
1504
01:16:17,786 --> 01:16:20,038
- What did I do?
- It don't fucking matter!
1505
01:16:20,122 --> 01:16:23,500
Yeah, aim high, Willis. Aim high!
1506
01:16:23,584 --> 01:16:27,421
Damn, I'm not…
I'm not where I'm supposed to be.
1507
01:16:28,172 --> 01:16:30,132
I'm not that good.
1508
01:16:31,341 --> 01:16:33,051
I gotta go get better.
1509
01:16:33,135 --> 01:16:35,429
I went and sat in an acting class.
1510
01:16:35,512 --> 01:16:38,390
By the way, some of the weirdest people
I've ever met in my fucking life,
1511
01:16:38,473 --> 01:16:39,433
I'll never forget it.
1512
01:16:39,516 --> 01:16:42,978
But they all had a vision, a dream.
I needed to be around that energy.
1513
01:16:43,061 --> 01:16:45,189
I needed to be around people with nothing.
1514
01:16:45,272 --> 01:16:47,024
Looking for opportunities,
wanting opportunities,
1515
01:16:47,107 --> 01:16:49,109
seeing that I'm not the only one.
1516
01:16:49,610 --> 01:16:52,029
Let me feed off of that energy,
let me feed off of that drive.
1517
01:16:52,112 --> 01:16:54,114
I'm doing the fucking work.
1518
01:16:54,198 --> 01:16:56,617
Opportunity presents itself,
I promise I'm gonna be ready.
1519
01:16:57,451 --> 01:16:59,453
Whenever it comes,
I promise I'm gonna be ready.
1520
01:17:00,204 --> 01:17:01,997
I'm going back on the road.
1521
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,627
When I get back on the road,
I'm gonna work the fuck out of this road,
1522
01:17:06,710 --> 01:17:09,588
I'm gonna build my fan base
and I'll be back, bitch.
1523
01:17:09,671 --> 01:17:10,714
[chuckles]
1524
01:17:10,797 --> 01:17:12,508
I don't know when but I'll be back.
1525
01:17:13,091 --> 01:17:15,928
They thought I was bullshitting.
I wasn't bullshitting.
1526
01:17:16,011 --> 01:17:19,473
I came back with revenue
attached to my persona.
1527
01:17:20,057 --> 01:17:24,269
To my likeness.
I came back saying, "This is what I do."
1528
01:17:25,312 --> 01:17:26,396
Will Packer said,
1529
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,024
"I know that's what you doing,
that's why you're gonna be in my movie."
1530
01:17:29,107 --> 01:17:31,527
And if you look
at the separation of movies,
1531
01:17:31,610 --> 01:17:35,572
between Soul Plane
and when I did Think Like A Man,
1532
01:17:35,656 --> 01:17:37,115
that real one came…
1533
01:17:38,283 --> 01:17:39,284
…I was ready.
1534
01:17:40,035 --> 01:17:42,496
I was a thousand percent ready
1535
01:17:42,829 --> 01:17:44,581
for Think Like A Man
when Think Like A Man came.
1536
01:17:44,665 --> 01:17:47,918
{\an8}This is why we're ruining my party.
'Cause of that information?
1537
01:17:48,001 --> 01:17:50,879
{\an8}I got it online.
Here we go. I got a review.
1538
01:17:50,963 --> 01:17:53,799
- I gotta get my hands on that book.
- No, you not gonna do it now.
1539
01:17:53,882 --> 01:17:56,093
- You said bros before hoes.
- [Cedric] Exactly.
1540
01:17:56,176 --> 01:17:58,720
Guess what, your bro need a ho.
Let me tell you something.
1541
01:17:58,804 --> 01:18:00,931
I got a pocket full of ones
and I ain't got no drawers on.
1542
01:18:01,014 --> 01:18:03,725
I didn't wear no drawers tonight.
Now y'all are supposed to be my wingmen.
1543
01:18:03,809 --> 01:18:05,269
Right now, fly with me!
1544
01:18:05,352 --> 01:18:09,022
Celebrate, man. Get your--
Fly with me, man. Goddammit!
1545
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,025
I just love Kevin Hart, like most people.
1546
01:18:12,693 --> 01:18:14,987
He just shows up and I'm like,
1547
01:18:15,070 --> 01:18:17,114
you can't not love this guy.
1548
01:18:19,116 --> 01:18:21,118
For a man of such small stature,
1549
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,537
he is a giant.
1550
01:18:24,371 --> 01:18:28,041
They put this motherfucker
in a movie next to The Rock.
1551
01:18:30,294 --> 01:18:32,296
[yells] And he held his ground.
1552
01:18:33,130 --> 01:18:35,382
Is that man enough for your ass?
1553
01:18:35,465 --> 01:18:37,217
{\an8}- We gotta go.
- I can't outrun those guys.
1554
01:18:37,301 --> 01:18:39,845
{\an8}- [bike revving]
- [gun fire]
1555
01:18:39,928 --> 01:18:41,138
{\an8}We gotta go now.
1556
01:18:41,221 --> 01:18:43,182
- Get on my back.
- What? I would rather die.
1557
01:18:43,265 --> 01:18:44,766
- Jump on my back.
- No. I'm gonna die.
1558
01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:46,059
Put me down!
1559
01:18:47,269 --> 01:18:49,688
I think with Kevin and I,
1560
01:18:50,189 --> 01:18:52,858
there is that old adage
that opposites attract.
1561
01:18:52,941 --> 01:18:54,902
From the moment we met,
1562
01:18:55,611 --> 01:18:58,697
instantaneously we had that chemistry.
1563
01:18:59,406 --> 01:19:00,490
Ow!
1564
01:19:01,074 --> 01:19:06,955
[Johnson] And I believe that the anchor
of the chemistry that we have…
1565
01:19:08,665 --> 01:19:09,833
is trust.
1566
01:19:09,917 --> 01:19:11,543
{\an8}Oh, my God! You look great.
1567
01:19:11,627 --> 01:19:13,670
{\an8}- No. No. You look great.
- Stop it.
1568
01:19:13,754 --> 01:19:16,173
{\an8}No, you haven't changed
since high school, dude.
1569
01:19:16,256 --> 01:19:19,551
{\an8}No, you're just sexy as dick right now.
1570
01:19:19,635 --> 01:19:21,762
You don't look somebody
in the eyes and say that.
1571
01:19:21,845 --> 01:19:22,763
Hey, let's get hammered.
1572
01:19:23,305 --> 01:19:25,349
I got-- I got a early day at work--
1573
01:19:25,432 --> 01:19:27,935
- Come on, I'm buying.
- Oh, shit.
1574
01:19:28,018 --> 01:19:30,062
The reason why it works,
1575
01:19:30,145 --> 01:19:33,190
'cause we both take our egos and
we fucking throw them in the ground.
1576
01:19:33,273 --> 01:19:34,733
There is no ego.
1577
01:19:34,816 --> 01:19:37,611
We come to work together.
We wanna make the best movie possible.
1578
01:19:37,694 --> 01:19:39,696
It's called soul gazing.
1579
01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:43,367
Stare into my soul
and I'll stare into yours.
1580
01:19:43,450 --> 01:19:45,452
- Come here. Shh. Hey!
- You are not my wife.
1581
01:19:45,536 --> 01:19:47,079
- Shh.
- Oh, that's it.
1582
01:19:47,162 --> 01:19:48,247
[laughing]
1583
01:19:48,330 --> 01:19:50,165
- I'm gonna--
- Shh.
1584
01:19:50,999 --> 01:19:52,626
- I promise--
- Shh.
1585
01:19:52,709 --> 01:19:54,753
[laughs] Let's keep on--
1586
01:19:54,837 --> 01:19:57,840
We have a common connective tissue,
Kevin and I.
1587
01:19:59,049 --> 01:20:02,970
Kevin is very ambitious and
he really likes to expand his aperture,
1588
01:20:03,053 --> 01:20:05,055
{\an8}and he loves creating business.
1589
01:20:06,348 --> 01:20:08,475
And he does have a mogul mindset.
1590
01:20:09,226 --> 01:20:12,646
It's rarefied air,
and I'm very fortunate and blessed.
1591
01:20:15,065 --> 01:20:18,193
I remember when I was a kid growing up
and I would go to movies,
1592
01:20:18,277 --> 01:20:20,654
and my favorite movies
at that time were Star Wars movies,
1593
01:20:20,737 --> 01:20:22,865
the Rocky movies, and Indiana Jones.
1594
01:20:22,948 --> 01:20:24,241
I didn't see anybody like me.
1595
01:20:24,324 --> 01:20:29,413
So I do like now being in this position
where we can reach more people
1596
01:20:29,496 --> 01:20:31,915
and become even more globally influential.
1597
01:20:34,418 --> 01:20:38,714
{\an8}[Boyega] Star Wars always had the vibe
of being in the most whitest elite space.
1598
01:20:38,797 --> 01:20:41,425
This is a franchise that's so white,
that it's like,
1599
01:20:41,508 --> 01:20:44,344
a Black person existing
in that, um, was something.
1600
01:20:44,428 --> 01:20:47,639
And you can always tell it's something
when some Star Wars fans try to say,
1601
01:20:47,723 --> 01:20:51,560
"Well, you know, we had Lando Calrissian
and had Samuel L. Jackson."
1602
01:20:51,643 --> 01:20:55,147
It's like telling me how many
cookie chips are on the cookie dough.
1603
01:20:55,230 --> 01:20:58,066
I'm like, "Bruv,
they just scattered that in there, bro."
1604
01:20:58,150 --> 01:21:01,111
They're okay with us
playing the best friend.
1605
01:21:01,195 --> 01:21:05,449
But once we touch their heroes,
once we lead, once we trailblaze,
1606
01:21:05,532 --> 01:21:09,244
it's like, [shrilly] "Oh, my God,
it's a bit too much. They're pandering."
1607
01:21:10,454 --> 01:21:13,415
{\an8}The Force Awakens to me
was like a fundamental moment.
1608
01:21:13,498 --> 01:21:14,750
We waited months for that.
1609
01:21:14,833 --> 01:21:16,502
When that big call came in,
1610
01:21:16,585 --> 01:21:19,338
that's that call that all those stars
talk about that changed their lives.
1611
01:21:19,421 --> 01:21:21,465
It's like, "Is it? That's the call?"
1612
01:21:21,548 --> 01:21:23,383
It's such an attack on reality.
1613
01:21:23,467 --> 01:21:24,885
I couldn't tell anyone.
1614
01:21:25,594 --> 01:21:28,472
But I snitched.
You ain't gonna know who I tell.
1615
01:21:28,555 --> 01:21:32,100
Like, I got in a taxi and told the driver.
That was the first person I told.
1616
01:21:32,184 --> 01:21:35,395
My mom's not here, my dad's not here,
we sharing in this moment, bro.
1617
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:39,066
Bro, I just got Star Wars. He was like,
"Yeah, congratulations, mate."
1618
01:21:39,149 --> 01:21:44,029
You know what I mean? "Great. That will be
45 pounds, please." You know what I mean?
1619
01:21:44,112 --> 01:21:47,241
And it was that kind of moment.
But I had to share.
1620
01:21:47,324 --> 01:21:49,826
I know the rules were like,
"Don't share," but come on, man,
1621
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:52,120
you've just offered me
an opportunity of a lifetime.
1622
01:21:53,247 --> 01:21:55,958
And then I went to go and tell my mom
and dad which was special.
1623
01:21:56,041 --> 01:21:59,253
You know, 'cause I felt like
for the first few years of acting,
1624
01:21:59,336 --> 01:22:02,256
I had been going away to work on stuff,
I'd been coming to LA to hustle,
1625
01:22:02,339 --> 01:22:05,175
I'd been staying on
so many sofas out here,
1626
01:22:05,259 --> 01:22:06,635
that my parents were kinda like,
1627
01:22:06,718 --> 01:22:11,598
"Uh. We know what he wants to do,
but we are not seeing the evidence.
1628
01:22:11,682 --> 01:22:14,852
But we still believe that Jesus
will bring him through. Amen."
1629
01:22:14,935 --> 01:22:16,270
And that was the vibe I got.
1630
01:22:16,353 --> 01:22:18,856
And that was the moment
for me that kinda, like, nailed it
1631
01:22:18,939 --> 01:22:20,941
'cause for my mom, I'd told her at 15,
1632
01:22:21,024 --> 01:22:23,068
"I might do this, I might get you
on the red carpet,"
1633
01:22:23,151 --> 01:22:24,486
and she always remembered that.
1634
01:22:24,570 --> 01:22:26,071
For my dad, it was the moment of,
1635
01:22:26,738 --> 01:22:31,368
"My boy. You are making money now."
You know, that just-- [laughs]
1636
01:22:31,451 --> 01:22:33,954
That happiness when your dad knows…
[joyful yell]
1637
01:22:34,037 --> 01:22:35,664
"My son is going to be rich."
1638
01:22:39,126 --> 01:22:40,794
I find it strange
that people in the creative arts
1639
01:22:40,878 --> 01:22:42,880
don't handle their careers creatively.
1640
01:22:42,963 --> 01:22:45,591
My filmography's an art piece.
That's how I see it.
1641
01:22:47,301 --> 01:22:49,094
My agent gives me a synopsis.
1642
01:22:49,178 --> 01:22:52,306
If I read the synopsis
and it makes me wanna read the script,
1643
01:22:52,389 --> 01:22:55,309
that's the same decision
if an audience reads the synopsis
1644
01:22:55,392 --> 01:22:57,102
and they wanna watch a film.
1645
01:22:57,186 --> 01:22:59,521
So I wanna be in that seat.
"Oh, I really wanna read that."
1646
01:22:59,897 --> 01:23:01,899
Same way the person goes,
"Oh, I really wanna watch that."
1647
01:23:01,982 --> 01:23:03,358
I want my stuff to be…
1648
01:23:03,442 --> 01:23:07,070
have that shareability, have
that thing about it so it's all organic,
1649
01:23:07,154 --> 01:23:09,865
I put myself in the audience seat
when I'm in these kind of modes.
1650
01:23:13,410 --> 01:23:16,747
{\an8}Deputy Chairman Fred Hampton
of the Illinois Black Panther Party.
1651
01:23:17,623 --> 01:23:22,753
{\an8}[Laura Dern] And the Oscar for Best Actor
in a supporting role goes to
1652
01:23:22,836 --> 01:23:25,422
{\an8}Daniel Kaluuya…
1653
01:23:25,506 --> 01:23:28,133
{\an8}[Kaluuya] It gets crazier
every year that it goes on.
1654
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,594
I just make sure I don't believe it.
1655
01:23:31,345 --> 01:23:35,849
I don't-- It doesn't mean
I'm any better because of it.
1656
01:23:35,933 --> 01:23:37,142
You gotta celebrate life, man,
1657
01:23:37,226 --> 01:23:38,936
we're breathing,
we're walking, it's incredible.
1658
01:23:39,019 --> 01:23:40,020
It's incredible.
1659
01:23:40,103 --> 01:23:43,732
- Peace, love, and onwards. We go again.
- [applause]
1660
01:23:44,316 --> 01:23:46,693
[Kaluuya] It's a privilege
to be recognized by your peers.
1661
01:23:46,777 --> 01:23:48,362
It's an incredible achievement.
1662
01:23:49,071 --> 01:23:52,115
But, like… this is my job.
1663
01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:55,327
You know what I mean, I lived it up
when I… I can't lie. [laughs]
1664
01:23:55,410 --> 01:23:58,121
We passed the Oscar around,
it was amazing.
1665
01:23:58,205 --> 01:24:03,085
It's like, let's keep it real,
I won an Oscar. That's crazy.
1666
01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:05,504
It's still something that I'm processing.
1667
01:24:05,587 --> 01:24:09,007
["Party People Go Off"
by Ice-T playing]
1668
01:24:14,638 --> 01:24:18,642
What I find really encouraging
about the new generation
1669
01:24:18,725 --> 01:24:22,312
is that they are not scared.
1670
01:24:22,396 --> 01:24:23,897
They're so entrepreneurial.
1671
01:24:23,981 --> 01:24:26,358
They build their own production companies.
1672
01:24:26,441 --> 01:24:29,278
They create vehicles
not just for themselves,
1673
01:24:29,361 --> 01:24:31,113
but for their colleagues as well.
1674
01:24:31,196 --> 01:24:33,657
They're doing it at a whole new level
1675
01:24:33,740 --> 01:24:39,329
and if I was gonna name a movie
that symbolized this new era,
1676
01:24:39,413 --> 01:24:40,873
it's Black Panther.
1677
01:24:40,956 --> 01:24:42,374
{\an8}[crowd cheering]
1678
01:24:45,836 --> 01:24:47,796
Black Panther was a very special job.
1679
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,798
That, for me personally, was incredible.
1680
01:24:49,882 --> 01:24:52,634
That's what I wanted,
it was about finding community.
1681
01:24:54,386 --> 01:24:56,513
- Border Tribe!
- [chanting]
1682
01:24:57,055 --> 01:24:58,765
[shouting in Xhosa]
1683
01:25:01,226 --> 01:25:05,063
Seeing that attention to detail
that you rarely see on things.
1684
01:25:05,731 --> 01:25:10,527
Ryan just being incredible
at what he does and giving his all to it.
1685
01:25:11,528 --> 01:25:13,447
It gets bigger as time goes on.
1686
01:25:14,281 --> 01:25:16,742
Anywhere you go in the world,
Black Panther has touched it.
1687
01:25:16,825 --> 01:25:19,494
You know, and a story
that's about empowering us,
1688
01:25:19,578 --> 01:25:23,790
that shows our perspective,
has touched corners of the world.
1689
01:25:24,499 --> 01:25:25,918
If I pull up to a New York airport
1690
01:25:26,001 --> 01:25:28,086
and there just happens
to be loads of Nigerians there…
1691
01:25:28,170 --> 01:25:31,006
They're going, "Oh, my God, W'Kabi."
1692
01:25:31,089 --> 01:25:33,217
You know what I'm saying?
You're like, "Oh, shit…"
1693
01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:37,971
I cried a little bit
when I saw Black Panther.
1694
01:25:38,764 --> 01:25:40,307
I was on Broadway, in fact.
1695
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:44,686
And I went to the premiere and I wasn't
interested in the red carpet and all that.
1696
01:25:44,770 --> 01:25:48,148
So I went backstage
and I saw Chad and Ryan.
1697
01:25:48,899 --> 01:25:51,527
I spoke to them and then I sat down
and watched the movie.
1698
01:25:52,945 --> 01:25:56,532
And I felt like the baton had been passed.
1699
01:25:56,615 --> 01:25:59,326
I was like, wow, these young boys
are gone, you know.
1700
01:25:59,785 --> 01:26:01,161
I felt…
1701
01:26:02,579 --> 01:26:06,166
I don't know if the word is "relieved",
but I was proud…
1702
01:26:06,917 --> 01:26:10,963
to see what they had done
and seeing where they were headed.
1703
01:26:11,046 --> 01:26:14,550
You know, I didn't know then they were
gonna make a billion dollars but they did.
1704
01:26:14,633 --> 01:26:18,512
So that, uh,
that was a special moment for me.
1705
01:26:19,221 --> 01:26:22,307
Black Panther for me was, like, the movie
that Black people had been waiting for
1706
01:26:22,391 --> 01:26:23,642
for 100 years.
1707
01:26:23,725 --> 01:26:26,854
Like, for a century, we've been waiting
for a movie like this.
1708
01:26:26,937 --> 01:26:29,815
Because you don't just get
one prince in this movie.
1709
01:26:30,482 --> 01:26:32,651
We got two princes in that movie
1710
01:26:32,734 --> 01:26:34,945
with Chad and Michael B.
1711
01:26:35,571 --> 01:26:38,907
And we never had that before. In cinema.
1712
01:26:39,867 --> 01:26:41,326
We never had that before.
1713
01:26:42,369 --> 01:26:45,289
So for me, that was like
all of our history.
1714
01:26:45,831 --> 01:26:49,209
Sort of wrapped up and condensed
in this wonderful
1715
01:26:49,293 --> 01:26:51,378
fantasy world of Wakanda.
1716
01:26:52,754 --> 01:26:55,757
That is born out of our need
to have these kind of heroes
1717
01:26:55,841 --> 01:26:57,676
and this kind of representation.
1718
01:27:00,095 --> 01:27:02,472
And Coogler did such a fine job with it.
1719
01:27:02,556 --> 01:27:06,101
And both Michael B. and Chadwick
1720
01:27:06,185 --> 01:27:08,520
really stepped into those roles
1721
01:27:08,604 --> 01:27:11,607
with a kind of pureness of heart, man,
that's just…
1722
01:27:11,690 --> 01:27:14,276
That just really, really meant
everything to me.
1723
01:27:14,359 --> 01:27:16,778
Only reason I don't kill you
where you stand
1724
01:27:16,862 --> 01:27:18,906
is because I know who you are.
1725
01:27:20,115 --> 01:27:21,658
Now, what do you want?
1726
01:27:23,327 --> 01:27:24,536
I want the throne.
1727
01:27:24,620 --> 01:27:26,580
Coming in as the,
you know, the antagonist,
1728
01:27:26,663 --> 01:27:28,540
I was, like, "I'm causing a ruckus."
1729
01:27:28,624 --> 01:27:31,084
[chuckles] I'm causing a ruckus.
1730
01:27:32,544 --> 01:27:35,422
First thing we did, first day
was, uh, Tribal Council.
1731
01:27:35,506 --> 01:27:38,342
So, the first day, I walked in in chains,
that was the first day.
1732
01:27:38,425 --> 01:27:41,762
And it was like go time.
I had my gold teeth in.
1733
01:27:41,845 --> 01:27:43,764
On set, whenever I had them things in,
they already knew
1734
01:27:43,847 --> 01:27:45,140
I was in a different place.
1735
01:27:45,933 --> 01:27:47,726
That was the beauty of those characters
1736
01:27:47,809 --> 01:27:49,686
and the sophistication and layers of it.
1737
01:27:49,770 --> 01:27:51,522
It wasn't just black and white, you know,
1738
01:27:51,605 --> 01:27:54,066
it was two sides of a conversation
that needed to be had.
1739
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:56,527
It was that extra thing that allowed us
1740
01:27:56,610 --> 01:27:59,696
to sit in our characters
a certain way and just be.
1741
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:01,782
And we did it on the biggest stage.
1742
01:28:01,865 --> 01:28:04,201
And we allowed the world
to get in on that conversation.
1743
01:28:05,494 --> 01:28:07,996
And, you know, we don't sell overseas.
1744
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,706
Our movies don't translate.
1745
01:28:10,165 --> 01:28:12,960
Nobody wanna go and see a Black movie
with an all Black cast.
1746
01:28:13,043 --> 01:28:14,419
All that good stuff.
1747
01:28:14,503 --> 01:28:17,589
So I think burning down
those imaginary boundaries
1748
01:28:17,673 --> 01:28:20,884
that's been projected on us for so long,
that we started to believe it.
1749
01:28:20,968 --> 01:28:24,346
I think that was, like,
a reeducation for everyone,
1750
01:28:24,429 --> 01:28:25,681
but especially for us.
1751
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,101
It changed my life.
It changed Chadwick's life.
1752
01:28:29,184 --> 01:28:31,812
You know, like, Chad's immortalized.
1753
01:28:32,563 --> 01:28:35,023
Wakanda Forever.
Chadwick forever, you know?
1754
01:28:36,358 --> 01:28:40,279
{\an8}[reporter] We are all waking up
to the devastating and shocking news
1755
01:28:40,362 --> 01:28:42,406
that actor Chadwick Boseman has died.
1756
01:28:42,489 --> 01:28:44,867
[reporter 2] On social media,
friends and young fans
1757
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:47,077
mourn the loss of the onscreen king.
1758
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,038
{\an8}Everything that you fought for
was not for yourself.
1759
01:28:50,789 --> 01:28:52,624
{\an8}It was for those that come after.
1760
01:28:53,417 --> 01:28:56,712
Now this is your time.
1761
01:28:56,795 --> 01:28:59,089
[crowd cheering]
1762
01:29:06,013 --> 01:29:08,140
That one shook us all up.
1763
01:29:09,099 --> 01:29:12,853
Just because he took his battle,
he took it on by himself.
1764
01:29:13,312 --> 01:29:15,731
He didn't make it the world's business.
1765
01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:18,066
It was private between him and his family.
1766
01:29:18,150 --> 01:29:20,861
That's real strength to walk out every day
and put a smile on,
1767
01:29:20,944 --> 01:29:22,863
and shake everybody's hands.
1768
01:29:22,946 --> 01:29:25,616
Have a presentation of good.
Life is good.
1769
01:29:26,116 --> 01:29:29,119
Every time I saw him,
he had nothing but fucking prayer
1770
01:29:29,203 --> 01:29:31,997
and good words. "Brother, I love you.
Say a prayer for you, Kevin."
1771
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:36,043
He always would say a prayer in my ear.
"God, hold onto him, be strong."
1772
01:29:36,126 --> 01:29:39,671
It was, like, damn, man, Chadwick was just
such a positive, uplifting dude.
1773
01:29:39,755 --> 01:29:41,340
Chadwick had other reasons.
1774
01:29:42,591 --> 01:29:43,592
Too soon.
1775
01:29:45,886 --> 01:29:46,887
Too soon.
1776
01:29:47,930 --> 01:29:50,516
It's something I think about often,
you know.
1777
01:29:52,226 --> 01:29:54,853
Not checking up as much as I should
1778
01:29:54,937 --> 01:29:58,440
is something that, you know,
weighs on me also.
1779
01:29:58,982 --> 01:30:00,984
Not turning this into a therapy session,
1780
01:30:01,068 --> 01:30:03,362
but it's a-- Chadwick is special.
1781
01:30:03,445 --> 01:30:05,697
I was looking forward to, like, you know…
1782
01:30:06,782 --> 01:30:08,283
You know, just…
1783
01:30:10,577 --> 01:30:11,870
You know, yeah…
1784
01:30:11,954 --> 01:30:14,081
- [Hudlin] Yeah, exactly.
- Mm-hmm.
1785
01:30:17,417 --> 01:30:19,461
[Kaluuya] The last time I saw him,
we did a Q&A.
1786
01:30:19,545 --> 01:30:21,630
And they were, like,
"Who's the people in this process
1787
01:30:21,713 --> 01:30:23,298
that you think are amazing?"
1788
01:30:24,007 --> 01:30:25,467
And I just said Chad.
1789
01:30:25,551 --> 01:30:28,011
Because being the lead
1790
01:30:28,095 --> 01:30:31,849
is a really hard job
and it's a thankless job.
1791
01:30:31,932 --> 01:30:34,935
It works because all the characters
shine around you.
1792
01:30:35,018 --> 01:30:37,104
You know what I'm saying?
Really and truly, like,
1793
01:30:37,187 --> 01:30:39,481
{\an8}So, say, in Get Out, like, Rel shined.
1794
01:30:39,565 --> 01:30:40,524
{\an8}Shit!
1795
01:30:40,607 --> 01:30:42,484
{\an8}[Kaluuya] And I'm just in the pocket.
1796
01:30:42,568 --> 01:30:44,611
{\an8}Nope, Keke shines.
1797
01:30:46,154 --> 01:30:48,657
{\an8}And I'm in the pocket.
It's a thankless job
1798
01:30:48,740 --> 01:30:50,993
if you're gonna do it the right way,
know what I'm saying.
1799
01:30:51,076 --> 01:30:53,704
If you're serving a piece,
serving a story,
1800
01:30:53,787 --> 01:30:55,873
and to have that moment of Black Panther,
then to understand
1801
01:30:55,956 --> 01:30:59,001
what he was going through,
and still choose to be in the pocket.
1802
01:30:59,084 --> 01:31:01,920
Still choose his craft,
still choose his technique
1803
01:31:02,004 --> 01:31:05,632
is just-- It's an incredible thing
to have witnessed
1804
01:31:05,716 --> 01:31:07,301
and to have been around.
1805
01:31:07,384 --> 01:31:11,013
Also, the kind of man that he was,
you know what I'm saying, like…
1806
01:31:12,097 --> 01:31:14,391
Like, he helps people
and he helped people.
1807
01:31:14,474 --> 01:31:17,186
He's still helping people.
Let's keep it real.
1808
01:31:18,270 --> 01:31:22,316
And it's on us to keep going, just--
It's on us to keep going.
1809
01:31:29,448 --> 01:31:32,284
[Hudlin] What do you think about
the state of the industry today
1810
01:31:32,367 --> 01:31:34,536
with the opportunities for Black artists?
1811
01:31:35,787 --> 01:31:37,456
Shit, it's never been better.
1812
01:31:37,956 --> 01:31:39,666
Biggest stars on the planet.
1813
01:31:40,334 --> 01:31:43,587
I cannot think of a better time
in my experience in the business
1814
01:31:43,670 --> 01:31:45,339
than to be a Black actor today.
1815
01:31:45,422 --> 01:31:48,300
[reporter] Marvel's Black Panther
is already setting records.
1816
01:31:48,383 --> 01:31:50,469
[reporter 2] Straight Outta Compton
raking in 56 million dollars.
1817
01:31:50,552 --> 01:31:52,346
Biggest debut ever for an R-rated movie…
1818
01:31:53,055 --> 01:31:55,974
[Cannon] We hear the word "diversity,"
we hear the word "inclusion,"
1819
01:31:56,475 --> 01:31:59,061
but I think it could be just jungle fever.
1820
01:31:59,937 --> 01:32:01,980
And, you know, a fever will subside.
1821
01:32:02,773 --> 01:32:06,193
We've made a lot of progress, but we can't
pretend like everything's fixed.
1822
01:32:06,276 --> 01:32:09,029
I think there's a tremendous amount
of work to be done.
1823
01:32:09,780 --> 01:32:12,241
You know, we started realizing
the people that we look up to,
1824
01:32:12,324 --> 01:32:15,369
icons, legends, revolutionaries.
1825
01:32:15,452 --> 01:32:17,538
You realize, "Oh, they were my age
when they were doing that,
1826
01:32:17,621 --> 01:32:20,249
they were younger than me.
Oh, man, let me get my shit together."
1827
01:32:21,124 --> 01:32:23,502
[Jordan] We've gotta keep
agitating things, we can't be complacent,
1828
01:32:23,585 --> 01:32:25,587
{\an8}we can't let this moment
just pass us by,
1829
01:32:25,671 --> 01:32:29,007
{\an8}we have to continue to put our foot
on their necks.
1830
01:32:29,091 --> 01:32:31,552
{\an8}[cheering and applause]
1831
01:32:31,635 --> 01:32:32,970
I think there's a…
1832
01:32:34,513 --> 01:32:38,308
responsibility that goes along
with being number one on the call sheet.
1833
01:32:38,392 --> 01:32:41,895
It's not just about being
the first person who has--
1834
01:32:41,979 --> 01:32:44,189
The one who has the most lines
and is the lead,
1835
01:32:44,273 --> 01:32:46,066
it's like,
you're kind of setting the tone.
1836
01:32:46,149 --> 01:32:49,945
How are you gonna weather these storms
that every production has?
1837
01:32:50,028 --> 01:32:53,156
And people tend
to take their cue from you.
1838
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,493
There's a lot of influence,
a lot of responsibility, it's leadership.
1839
01:32:56,577 --> 01:32:59,663
That's how I see it,
whether you are aware of it or not.
1840
01:33:06,628 --> 01:33:08,714
[Hudlin] Your property is huge.
1841
01:33:08,797 --> 01:33:10,841
Yeah, 40 acres on purpose.
1842
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,260
It's on purpose. 40 acres.
1843
01:33:13,927 --> 01:33:17,764
A lot of times, the outside
looking in on Black folks…
1844
01:33:18,348 --> 01:33:19,933
wonder why we celebrate.
1845
01:33:20,017 --> 01:33:23,395
"Why does it have to be all that?
Jesus Christ."
1846
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:26,481
"You know, you're rich."
1847
01:33:27,649 --> 01:33:29,276
"Should just be happy about that."
1848
01:33:29,943 --> 01:33:31,528
"Why's there have to be a message?"
1849
01:33:31,612 --> 01:33:35,574
We gave 400-plus years of free labor.
1850
01:33:37,451 --> 01:33:40,162
And then they promised
40 acres and a mule.
1851
01:33:40,245 --> 01:33:43,624
"Yeah, we got you. On Friday, on Friday."
[laughs] It's like, what?
1852
01:33:43,707 --> 01:33:47,377
Coming from that, the 40 acres was…
1853
01:33:48,337 --> 01:33:49,379
so necessary.
1854
01:33:49,963 --> 01:33:52,007
I think our generation,
1855
01:33:52,090 --> 01:33:56,178
with the opportunities and the…
and the access.
1856
01:33:56,261 --> 01:33:58,138
Being able to have multiple platforms,
1857
01:33:58,222 --> 01:34:01,225
it's harder to keep us in a box now.
1858
01:34:02,809 --> 01:34:04,728
There's still spaces
we haven't been before,
1859
01:34:04,811 --> 01:34:09,233
so I think that's where
my eyes start to go.
1860
01:34:09,316 --> 01:34:12,778
Getting more people in positions
to make an impact
1861
01:34:12,861 --> 01:34:14,321
not just in front of the camera.
1862
01:34:16,573 --> 01:34:19,743
So the idea of number one
on the call sheet for me, in my perception
1863
01:34:19,826 --> 01:34:22,579
it means your first opportunity
to be an owner.
1864
01:34:23,956 --> 01:34:25,749
The first opportunity to be a partner.
1865
01:34:25,832 --> 01:34:28,335
The first opportunity to really look
behind the curtain
1866
01:34:28,418 --> 01:34:30,170
and take advantage of what's back there.
1867
01:34:30,254 --> 01:34:32,256
There's something special about ownership.
1868
01:34:32,339 --> 01:34:35,551
Right now a lot of actors, we're starting
off our own production companies,
1869
01:34:35,634 --> 01:34:38,095
we're collaborating, we're finding IP,
we're finding scripts.
1870
01:34:38,178 --> 01:34:39,805
You gotta get used to it.
1871
01:34:40,681 --> 01:34:43,100
We coming. In numbers.
1872
01:34:43,183 --> 01:34:45,227
And we inspiring in numbers.
1873
01:34:45,310 --> 01:34:51,441
It's critical to tell your own stories.
1874
01:34:51,525 --> 01:34:55,362
We got Black billionaires now that will
put up something for those stories.
1875
01:34:55,445 --> 01:34:58,365
I'm not going to wait on somebody
to bet on me.
1876
01:34:58,448 --> 01:35:01,034
I'm not gonna sit around
and wait on Hollywood
1877
01:35:01,118 --> 01:35:04,913
to tell me what my value or my worth is
1878
01:35:04,997 --> 01:35:07,291
or how good I am, what my excellence is.
1879
01:35:07,374 --> 01:35:08,333
I know my excellence.
1880
01:35:08,417 --> 01:35:11,086
They might call us a minority,
there's a billion Black people,
1881
01:35:11,170 --> 01:35:12,504
there's a billion White people.
1882
01:35:12,588 --> 01:35:14,840
What's minor about that? I'm major, bro.
1883
01:35:15,340 --> 01:35:18,093
I ain't taking nothing minor. At all.
1884
01:35:18,177 --> 01:35:22,848
Once you get to the top of the mountain,
then what happens?
1885
01:35:24,057 --> 01:35:26,768
Do you stay there, do you look around,
do you become satisfied?
1886
01:35:26,852 --> 01:35:30,939
I realized that what I wanted to do,
being at the top of the mountain,
1887
01:35:31,023 --> 01:35:34,568
is bring people up,
and create more mountain.
1888
01:35:35,944 --> 01:35:36,987
[chuckles]
1889
01:35:37,070 --> 01:35:39,072
[hip-hop beats playing]
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