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[Phil] Look how steep that is.
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[Jess] Careful. Oh, my gosh.
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[Josh] Phil and Jess
head to the wilds
of the Pacific Northwest.
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To investigate
a paranormal hotspot.
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[Bert] I heard
a disembodied voice
of a woman humming.
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[Josh] At the site
of horrific train tragedy.
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[Phil] Can you imagine,
you're sitting there
in a crowded car,
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-and then this crushing
force on top of it.
-[Jess] Yeah.
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This is essentially,
you know, a graveyard.
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[man] I personally think
that there were
a lot more people killed.
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-So, you're saying
there's a bit of a cover up?
-Yes.
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[Josh] The truth behind
this haunting disaster
was kept hidden until now.
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So, you got this footage,
right on top
of the accident site?
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Yeah. I saw
the head right there.
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[Josh] We uncover
the buried secrets of...
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[Jess] Is that you?
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Did you just hear whistling?
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[Josh]
...the Avalanche Ghost Train.
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[Josh] My name is Josh Gates.
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In my travels,
I've experienced strange
things that defy logic,
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and made me
question everything.
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Oh, my God.
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[Josh] Now,
I've put together a team
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to investigate the
stranger side of the unknown.
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Let's go.
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[Josh] Phil Torres is
a scientist who hunts for
rational explanations.
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Jessica Chobot's
paranormal research,
has made her a true believer.
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If you're here with us,
knock again.
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[Josh] Together,
we're searching for answers.
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[Phil] What is
happening here, Jess?
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[Josh] To the world's most
extraordinary mysteries.
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This isExpedition X.
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All right. Jess, Phil,
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when was the last time
the two of you
took a trip by train?
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I took a lovely trip on a
bullet train a few years back
in Japan.
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Yeah, I took a sleeper car
across Europe
a few summers back.
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Nothing like falling asleep
to the rumble of a train.
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Both those sound lovely.
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Now, imagine
it's the dead of winter
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and a blizzard rolls in.
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Your train gets stuck.
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Snow is piling up
past the windows
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and you are trapped for days.
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Food is running low.
There is no heat,
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no power,
and then it gets worse.
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No Wi-Fi.
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That does sound like
your nightmare, Jess.
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-It does.
-This is a real nightmare.
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This is actually a true story.
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And it goes down as
one of the deadliest
train disasters
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in American history.
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And some say,
that even now a century later,
the ghosts of that tragedy,
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still haunt the mountains
of the Pacific Northwest.
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[Josh] February 22nd, 1910.
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Winding through
the Cascade mountains,
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the Great Northern Railway,
passenger train number 25,
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is on an east-west journey
from Spokane to Seattle.
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Aboard are 55 passengers.
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From commuting businessmen
to vacationing families.
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They expect an uneventful
overnight journey.
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But fate makes
the tiny town of Wellington
their final stop.
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Snow begins falling
at up to a foot per hour.
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Burying the tracks under
20-foot-high drifts.
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Snow ploughs fail
and the train can't move.
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Days pass
and anxious passengers
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are running low
on food and coal
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to heat the train cars.
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A few trek nearly
four miles through
stormy weather
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and deep snow drifts
to the next outpost.
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But most have to stay put
on the stranded train,
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unable to make
the treacherous hike.
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Six days after
the train stalled,
the snow turns to rain.
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Everyone celebrates
believing that soon,
they'll be on their way again.
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But Mother Nature
has other plans.
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On March 1st around30 a.m.,
lightning flashes.
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Thunder cracks.
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Suddenly a slab of ice,
more than a quarter-mile wide
roars down the mountain side,
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turning rocks and trees
into high speed projectiles
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that slam
into the helpless train,
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hurling it
more than a 150 feet
into the ravine below.
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It's a mangled heap of metal,
ice, splintered trees
and human bodies.
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Rescue crews managed
to pull 23 people to safety.
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But the rest are dead.
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The final body isn't recovered
until the end of July.
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The official death toll is 96.
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The Wellington disaster,
remains the deadliest
avalanche in US history.
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Now, over a century later,
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hikers are reporting
paranormal activity
around the accident site.
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People claim
to hear ghostly voices,
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laugher, strange humming
and singing,
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and an eerie unsettling
feeling that overtakes them.
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One man captured on camera
what appears
to be an apparition.
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Reports of unexplained
phenomena around
the abandoned tracks
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have escalated over
the past few months.
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So, the time
to investigate is now,
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before snow
covers the evidence again.
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So what do you think?
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So much trauma, and death
concentrated in one location,
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I think it's gotta be haunted.
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I really wanna talk to the guy
that caught that ghostly image
on camera.
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Phil, what do you
make of the video?
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[Phil] There are some
plausible explanations
for what he caught on tape.
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It could be
atmospheric conditions.
It could be an animal.
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It could be
a trick of the light.
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Yeah, but the witness also
said that he heard voices
at the disaster site
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and other people have
reported that too.
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So, this video's not
an isolated incident.
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But it's also a windy place.
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Wind can make strange sounds.
And so can wildlife.
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So, the two of you have got
to get up there
and check this out.
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You're gonna be the first team
on TV to ever
investigate the wreck
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and the paranormal claims
surrounding it.
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-That's kind of awesome.
-All right.
Get ready to see a ghost.
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Well, it sounds like
the two of you are all aboard.
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[groaning]
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I'm sorry.
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Just gonna let that one
wash over me.
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Please do.
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[Josh] Phil and Jess,
fly 2200 miles
from New York
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to Spokane, Washington.
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From there,
it's a four hour drive west
into the Cascade mountains.
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[Jess] Gorgeous.
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This is one of my favorite
patches in wilderness
in all the US.
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-I come here
every single spring.
-Mm-hmm.
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And yet I've never heard
this story about the train.
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-[Jess] Look at
this [bleep].
-[Phil] Oof!
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So, this is logging?
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[Phil] All of these
downed trees,
this is not logging.
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This is wreckage
from an avalanche.
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What? Whoa!
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-[Jess] Whoa!
-[Phil] Are you kidding me?
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-[Phil] Look at that!
-[Jess] I mean,
this is recent.
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[Phil] Oh, my God!
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Wow!
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[Phil] Oof!
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-[Phil] That's incredible.
-[Jess] There's snow.
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Ooh! That is just packed.
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[laughs]
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-Not cool, Jess.
-Oh, come on.
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Have some fun.
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I mean, that is like
concrete though.
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You would never survive
getting hit by
something like that.
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Yeah. If you think about
all the snow pack
that happens here.
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And they say
in this area of Washington,
they can get up to 25 feet.
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-Yeah.
-All gets compressed,
turns into this giant ice cube
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just rushing down.
Look at what it did.
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Look how thick that tree is.
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[Phil] Avalanches occur
when wind,
rain or human activity
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causes a layer of snow
to suddenly fracture and
detach from a mountain slope,
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sending thousands of tons
of snow, hurtling down
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at speeds of up to
200 miles per hour.
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Anyone below,
like those trapped
on the Great Northern Train,
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would have only seconds
to try to escape.
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[Jess] Man, you can see,
like, the trees,
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how they're flattened
and bent like that.
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-[Phil] Yeah.
-Man!
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[Josh] Jess and Phil
continue to Skykomish
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which would have been
one of the next stops
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on the train's
ill-fated journey.
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There, I've arranged for them
to meet someone
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who has a very
personal connection
to the tragedy.
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Sheila Hagar
is a local reporter.
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And a descendant
of one of
the avalanche victims.
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What kind of
sparked your desire
to find out more about
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your great grandmother's
involvement
in the Wellington Avalanche?
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I just typed
my grandfather's name
into Google.
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And I come across
this little tidbit about
Sarah Jane Covington.
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And I'm just stunned.
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[Jess] 69-year-old
Sarah Covington
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was in Spokane
caring for her sick son
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and was travelling alone
back to Seattle
when the avalanche hit.
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She never made it home
to celebrate
her 51st wedding anniversary.
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So nobody in the family
ever talked about this?
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Not to me.
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Not many people at all
knew that this 1910 avalanche
had occurred.
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When I wrote about it
people had no idea.
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I think the railroad company
did their very best
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to make sure it was forgotten.
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For them,
this was a terrible PR...
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-Mm-hmm.
-...issue.
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If people were afraid
to go on that train
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they weren't
going to have customers.
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Josh had mentioned
that you'd actually
come across some of your
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great-great grandmother's
writing from when
she was on the train.
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Yes.
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I don't know whether it was
on her body
when they found it.
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Or possibly in her luggage.
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What was going on
inside that train?
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Let me show you.
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[Sheila] She's not
very worried when the train
actually gets snowbound.
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[Sarah]
"February 27th, 1910.
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My dear husband and children,
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I, with 100 or so,
are snowbound here."
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She does talk about
how one young man
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was able to play music.
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He had a horn.
But that people
were very blue.
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[Sarah] "Quite a number
play cards and drink,
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talk slang
and any old thing.
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We have no water
and very little fuel.
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I am trusting in God
to save us.
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Some are in deadly fear
that a landslide
will come down on us."
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Can we get a copy
of some of these documents?
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-You guys can take
all of this and pursue.
-[Jess] Awesome. Thank you.
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All of this!
What else do we have in here?
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[Jess] Victims list.
This is very helpful.
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-This is a great place
to start.
-Yeah.
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[Jess] Now that we have
more information about
who was on the train,
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we need to investigate
the actual site
of the disaster.
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It's a half-hour drive east
to where the accident happened
and the old train route.
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Then it's a hike
up to the site.
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I'm curious to connect with
whatever spirits
may be lingering here.
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Josh has arranged for us
to meet Bert Coates.
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A graphic designer,
he has lived in the area
for 40 years
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and spends most
of his weekends hiking
and camping in the mountains.
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One night
around the disaster site,
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he captured and eerie figure
on camera.
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So you had an experience
around here.
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I did.
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-I hiked up here...
-[Jess] Mm-hmm.
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[Bert] ...and I had heard
a disembodied voice of a woman
that just started humming.
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And then she started singing.
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-[Jess] Really?
-[Bert] But you couldn't
really make out the words
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of what she was singing.
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-Did you recognize
the song at all?
-No, not at all.
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Did you know
the history of this place
before coming here?
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Not until after
I went back home.
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After the hike
I started looking
at the history of Wellington.
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So, essentially, you had
your first experience here.
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-Yeah.
-And it sounds like
you kept coming back...
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-Oh, yeah.
-...at night to try
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-to figure out
what was happening?
-Yep.
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-So, the video, can you
show us what happened?
-Absolutely.
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[Phil] All right.
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[Jess] Bert takes us
down the trail
to the snow shed.
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A massive half mile long
concrete structure
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built after the avalanche
to shield the tracks
from future disasters.
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[Phil] I definitely recognize
these pillars from your video.
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[Bert] Yeah.
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I'd hiked to the snow shed.
We started having problems
with the camera.
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The batteries
just started draining,
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so I stepped off to the side
with the camera
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and I wasn't paying attention
to what I was filming
when I captured the image.
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And so then you were recording
down in this direction?
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Yep. I was recording
right at that angle.
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Which pillar would it be?
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I saw the head right there.
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-So, here, right?
-Yes.
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Okay.
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[Phil] There are a lot
of deer tracks over here.
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[Bert] There are.
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But even I will quickly admit
that looked nothing
like a deer.
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[Jess] That looked like
a person's head and shoulders.
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[Jess] I think Bert
captured a lost soul
from the train disaster.
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This area is where
the trains would have been.
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[Bert] Yes.
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[Phil] I think
what he caught on camera
was a glimpse of an animal.
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And what he's heard,
including the humming
and singing,
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might simply be
the sounds of birds
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echoing through the snow shed.
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So you got this footage
essentially right on top
of the accident site.
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Pretty much, yeah.
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The debris field's
down this direction over here.
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[Jess] Ooh, okay.
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-[Phil] Right down there.
So it's over this ledge.
-[Bert] Right.
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-What else is down there?
-The Tye River.
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And then you'll see
a bunch of debris.
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Well, Jess, I think we should
try to get down to
the debris field...
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-Yeah.
-... and do that
before it gets dark.
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-Yeah. Thanks.
-[Bert] Good luck.
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-See ya.
-See ya later.
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[Phil] We're going to have to
get to the crash site
the same way the train went,
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all the way down this cliff.
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-Oh, that is steep!
-Do you have your gear?
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-I've got my gear.
-Yeah.
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So, what, rope off
to one of these trees?
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[Jess] Rope off to a tree
and let's shimmy down.
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-[Jess] You first?
-Yeah.
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Okay.
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All right.
I can see we're getting close.
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You think that's gonna...
That's not enough line.
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We'll see how far we can go.
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-Get ready.
-Yeah.
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[Phil] Whoa!
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Oh! Are you all right?
285
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-I'm good.
-Are you okay?
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Yeah. I'm good.
287
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Careful, careful.
We've got a rockslide here.
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Look at this!
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[Phil] Oh, my God!
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[Phil] Careful, careful.
We've got a rockslide here.
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Look at this!
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Oh, my God!
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Solid steel.
Completely collapsed in.
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It got smashed.
The rivets all popped out.
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Can you imagine?
You're sitting there
in a crowded car.
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-Mm-hmm.
-Desperate for days.
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-And then this crushing force
on top of it.
-Yeah.
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It took them months
to find all the bodies here.
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Months!
Because of the conditions.
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Let's just keep that in mind
while we're exploring.
301
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Let's remember that
a lot of people
passed away here.
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I mean, this is essentially,
you know, a graveyard.
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Okay.
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[Phil] Lots of debris
over here.
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The roots of this tree
are growing right through,
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right over this big piece
of iron metal right here.
307
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It's just amazing to think
that this forest has basically
been growing back
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over the top of this wreckage
for over 100 years.
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[Jess] All right,
let me just take a picture.
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[Jess] As I'm standing
on top of the wreckage
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where 96 people
lost their lives,
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I'm suddenly struck with
a heavy, uneasy feeling.
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There's probably
a lot of train underneath
where we can't even see it.
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I mean, it's a miracle
that they found Sarah's diary
315
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in this debris field.
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[Jess] Some believe spirits
will remain in the spot
where their life ended,
317
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so the words from Sarah's
journal and letters
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may help me reach out
to her or the other
avalanche victims.
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I'm gonna use Sarah's letters
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to do a bit of a bit
of a call and response
with this recorder.
321
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It's voice activated
so it will record
if anybody answers.
322
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-Okay. Are you recording?
-Yeah, I'm recording.
323
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,551
Sarah, if you're with us,
feel free to reach out
and speak with us.
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"February 23rd,
we're snowed in
at the mouth of the tunnel,
325
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twenty minutes of00 a.m.
326
00:16:32,551 --> 00:16:34,724
I just got up from my bed.
327
00:16:34,758 --> 00:16:38,034
The mountains are beautiful,
and we are all resting easy.
328
00:16:38,068 --> 00:16:39,931
They say it we may be
here all day.
329
00:16:39,965 --> 00:16:42,206
The cars are warm
and very nice."
330
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Let's review it.
331
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[recorder] February 23rd.
We are snowed in
at the mou... tunnel.
332
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Twenty minutes of eleven...
333
00:16:51,724 --> 00:16:55,448
Just got up from my bed...
The mountain... beautiful
and we are all resting...
334
00:16:55,482 --> 00:16:56,827
We may be here all day.
335
00:16:56,862 --> 00:16:58,724
Okay, this is really weird.
336
00:16:59,655 --> 00:17:01,724
Why is it skipping?
337
00:17:01,758 --> 00:17:05,551
It's supposed to run
when it hears
somebody talking.
338
00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,586
So why was it continuously
getting interrupted?
339
00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:13,068
Well, two options here.
One, it's sucks at its job.
340
00:17:13,103 --> 00:17:15,137
Or two, there's
some kind of interference.
341
00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:19,275
There's definitely
a heavy vibe in the area.
342
00:17:19,310 --> 00:17:24,482
What I've been struck with is
we've been to so many
tragic places.
343
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I've never been
to a place like this.
Like, it just is depressing.
344
00:17:29,724 --> 00:17:31,379
-Really heavy.
-Yeah.
345
00:17:31,413 --> 00:17:35,275
I think it's the tech,
but also, Jess, we're just
getting started here.
346
00:17:35,310 --> 00:17:37,034
Who knows
what we're gonna find?
347
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[Jess] With the daylight
fading fast,
348
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we make the tough climb
back uphill to the snow shed.
349
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Once it's dark, we'll be able
to better investigate
Bert's video.
350
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Phil thinks it may
have been an animal.
351
00:17:54,413 --> 00:17:56,827
But I think Bert may
have captured an image
352
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of a lost spirit
from the train disaster.
353
00:17:59,896 --> 00:18:04,965
-What if we set up the camera
to just record this area?
-Okay.
354
00:18:06,551 --> 00:18:10,862
[Jess] We aim a camera
towards the pillar,
and I set up a REM pod
355
00:18:10,896 --> 00:18:15,344
which will alert us to any
electromagnetic disturbances
from a paranormal presence.
356
00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:18,586
[Jess] Okay, REM pod's up.
357
00:18:21,275 --> 00:18:24,379
All right, so I'm going to
stay here and do
a little call and response.
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That's your territory, I know.
I'm gonna try and set up some
trail cams round here
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to get an idea
of what wildlife
do pass through this corridor.
360
00:18:30,655 --> 00:18:33,344
I think animals might be
the real source
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of the sights and sounds
people are reporting.
362
00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:40,655
-Okay, good luck out here.
-Thanks, you too.
363
00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:47,620
Right here, guys.
I think I've found
the route up.
364
00:18:49,965 --> 00:18:53,344
[Phil] I'm going to inspect
the rest of the snow shed
top to bottom
365
00:18:53,379 --> 00:18:56,068
looking for signs of wildlife.
366
00:18:56,103 --> 00:18:58,965
Watch your step here.
We've definitely got to
tread lightly around here
367
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,758
because this
is old concrete structure.
368
00:19:01,793 --> 00:19:05,206
We definitely saw parts of it
that had caved in
when we were down below.
369
00:19:05,241 --> 00:19:09,689
And we've got this ledge.
If you fall off,
that's a good 30-foot drop.
370
00:19:09,724 --> 00:19:11,965
So we'll be careful.
371
00:19:13,517 --> 00:19:15,448
[Jess] Since our other device
was giving us problems,
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00:19:15,482 --> 00:19:18,482
I'm going to switch
to our 360 recorder,
373
00:19:18,517 --> 00:19:22,482
an ultrasensitive mic
that will pick up sounds
from all directions.
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00:19:22,517 --> 00:19:23,758
Record.
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00:19:23,793 --> 00:19:26,586
If anyone responds,
we'll capture it.
376
00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:28,862
So the plan is that
I'm gonna go ahead
and set this
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00:19:28,896 --> 00:19:30,862
so that we can
do a calm response.
378
00:19:30,896 --> 00:19:32,758
I have Sarah's letters,
379
00:19:32,793 --> 00:19:34,827
I have the list of, uh,
380
00:19:34,862 --> 00:19:36,724
victims of the avalanche.
381
00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:38,931
All right. We're good to go.
382
00:19:38,965 --> 00:19:41,034
Is there anyone here
in the tunnel with us?
383
00:19:44,931 --> 00:19:47,137
What happened on the night
of the avalanche?
384
00:19:53,551 --> 00:19:56,689
Sarah, were you disappointed
that you weren't able
to send off
385
00:19:56,724 --> 00:19:58,793
your final letters
to your family?
386
00:20:08,862 --> 00:20:10,275
[Phil] All right.
387
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:14,103
I've seen very little evidence
of any animal activity.
388
00:20:14,137 --> 00:20:18,172
So, I'm gonna head back down,
set a game cam right
in the pathway
389
00:20:18,206 --> 00:20:20,793
where Bert reported
some unusual activity.
390
00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:26,034
Is there anybody here with us?
391
00:20:31,448 --> 00:20:34,137
Sarah, just so you know,
those letters did make it
to your
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00:20:34,172 --> 00:20:36,275
great-great-granddaughter,
Sheila.
393
00:20:38,482 --> 00:20:39,724
[EMF beeping]
394
00:20:44,551 --> 00:20:46,241
Are you standing over
by the pillar?
395
00:20:52,931 --> 00:20:54,034
[faint whistling]
396
00:20:54,655 --> 00:20:55,793
What the [bleep]?
397
00:20:55,827 --> 00:20:56,758
Was that a whistle?
398
00:20:56,793 --> 00:20:58,103
[cameraman speaking]
399
00:21:14,620 --> 00:21:15,965
I'm loving this spot
right here
400
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,103
because there are footprints
all over the place.
401
00:21:19,137 --> 00:21:23,517
Which means this gets
a lot of wildlife traffic,
402
00:21:23,551 --> 00:21:26,931
which means I'm gonna set up
my trail cam right here.
403
00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:40,965
[Jess] Hello?
Is there anyone here?
404
00:21:42,137 --> 00:21:43,137
[faint whistling]
405
00:21:43,172 --> 00:21:45,000
[shushes] Was that you?
406
00:21:45,655 --> 00:21:46,827
Did you just hear whistling?
407
00:21:46,862 --> 00:21:48,068
[cameraman speaking]
408
00:21:56,724 --> 00:21:58,000
[Jess] Is there anyone here?
409
00:21:59,413 --> 00:22:00,620
[faint whistling]
410
00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:02,000
[shushes] Was that you?
411
00:22:02,896 --> 00:22:03,862
Did you just hear whistling?
412
00:22:03,896 --> 00:22:05,206
[cameraman speaking]
413
00:22:16,689 --> 00:22:18,517
Hey, Phil?
Were you guys just whistling?
414
00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:21,586
I heard that too.
415
00:22:22,172 --> 00:22:24,000
What was that?
416
00:22:24,034 --> 00:22:27,551
[Phil] A logical explanation
might some kind of bird.
417
00:22:27,586 --> 00:22:31,344
Several species like
chickadees or swallows
do live here
418
00:22:31,379 --> 00:22:32,827
and have shrill chirps.
419
00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:34,034
[chirps]
420
00:22:34,448 --> 00:22:35,793
[chirping]
421
00:22:35,827 --> 00:22:39,068
But the sound we heard was
a single sustained note.
422
00:22:39,103 --> 00:22:41,137
Not a warbling bird song.
423
00:22:43,137 --> 00:22:45,655
And most songbirds
aren't nocturnal.
424
00:22:45,689 --> 00:22:48,137
So we'll see what
our trail cams captured.
425
00:22:48,172 --> 00:22:50,517
[Jess] I heard like someone
with a whistle
426
00:22:50,551 --> 00:22:52,000
right next to my ear.
427
00:22:52,034 --> 00:22:53,586
[Phil] That is really weird.
428
00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:56,551
Definitely sounded like
it came from your direction.
429
00:22:56,586 --> 00:22:57,758
Let's meet back up.
430
00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,241
Let's figure out where
we are with this thing.
431
00:22:59,965 --> 00:23:02,068
[Jess] Copy.
432
00:23:02,103 --> 00:23:06,241
[Phil] The whistling sound
could also be a mixture
of something entirely natural
433
00:23:06,275 --> 00:23:08,689
and something man made.
434
00:23:08,724 --> 00:23:14,000
In 2020, people noticed high
pitched howling noises
across San Francisco.
435
00:23:14,034 --> 00:23:16,931
An investigation determined
the sound was wind blowing
436
00:23:16,965 --> 00:23:20,172
through the slats of a newly
retrofitted sidewalk railing
437
00:23:20,206 --> 00:23:21,896
of the Golden Gate Bridge.
438
00:23:21,931 --> 00:23:24,862
It's possible that wind
blowing through these pillars
439
00:23:24,896 --> 00:23:27,000
might also create
some odd sounds.
440
00:23:27,034 --> 00:23:31,241
I've got something in my kit
that I can use to put
this idea to the test.
441
00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:33,344
-[whispering] Smoke bomb.
-That's cool!
442
00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:37,344
We'll be able to see
where the wind goes,
443
00:23:37,379 --> 00:23:39,620
if it weaves around some
of these pillars.
444
00:23:39,655 --> 00:23:42,931
That kind of helps us
visualize what the
sound could be doing too
445
00:23:42,965 --> 00:23:45,241
to get distorted through here.
446
00:23:45,275 --> 00:23:47,448
-Are you ready for this, Jess?
Okay.
-Yeah.
447
00:23:56,586 --> 00:24:00,344
It's barely going past
these pillars.
448
00:24:00,379 --> 00:24:01,482
[Jess] Mm-hmm.
449
00:24:01,517 --> 00:24:05,758
[Phil] So it's really just
a straight shot down.
450
00:24:07,862 --> 00:24:10,241
I was hoping to see some
gusts coming through.
451
00:24:11,068 --> 00:24:12,482
Some vortices.
452
00:24:12,517 --> 00:24:14,034
[whispers] Absolutely nothing.
453
00:24:14,068 --> 00:24:18,517
[Jess] I mean, it doesn't
seem breezy enough to make
any whistling noises.
454
00:24:18,551 --> 00:24:21,241
[Phil] Wind didn't cause the
whistling sound
we heard tonight.
455
00:24:21,724 --> 00:24:23,137
So what did?
456
00:24:23,172 --> 00:24:26,551
[Jess] That whistle
was definitely a response
from someone.
457
00:24:26,586 --> 00:24:27,896
One thing that's certain,
458
00:24:27,931 --> 00:24:30,724
this place
is really unsettling,
459
00:24:30,758 --> 00:24:32,068
even Phil seems to feel it.
460
00:24:32,103 --> 00:24:33,551
-We have a camera
that's gonna pick up...
-Game cam.
461
00:24:33,586 --> 00:24:34,931
...whatever walks around here.
462
00:24:34,965 --> 00:24:37,310
-Mm-hmm.
-So, I say we call it a night
463
00:24:37,344 --> 00:24:41,517
-because this place is creepy.
I wanna get out of here.
-It's creepy.
464
00:24:41,551 --> 00:24:44,655
But why?
It's just animals, Phil.
465
00:24:44,689 --> 00:24:46,172
Don't worry about it.
466
00:24:46,206 --> 00:24:48,275
[Phil] Jess, some of those
animals could
be a mountain lion.
467
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:49,655
-That would suck, yes.
-You know?
468
00:24:54,034 --> 00:24:56,620
[Phil] I've been thinking
about possible explanations
469
00:24:56,655 --> 00:24:57,965
for what's going on
around here
470
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,793
and I wanna run a theory
past Josh.
471
00:25:00,931 --> 00:25:01,827
[Josh] Hey, you two.
472
00:25:01,862 --> 00:25:03,103
-Hey, Josh!
-Josh!
473
00:25:03,137 --> 00:25:05,137
[Josh] I'm eager to hear
how it's going out there.
474
00:25:05,172 --> 00:25:10,000
Jess, were you able to make
contact with the spirits
of the train passengers?
475
00:25:10,034 --> 00:25:11,620
[Jess] I'm not sure yet.
476
00:25:11,655 --> 00:25:14,275
I reached out and I got some
strange responses.
477
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:15,413
A whistle.
478
00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:17,896
What like a train whistle
or like a person whistling?
479
00:25:17,931 --> 00:25:20,275
[Jess] More like a whistle
you'd blow.
480
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,517
Listen to this.
481
00:25:21,551 --> 00:25:23,448
[faint whistling]
482
00:25:23,482 --> 00:25:25,965
So did train conductors
carry whistles?
483
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,896
You know that actually does
sound kind of like those
old time conductor whistles.
484
00:25:29,931 --> 00:25:31,862
Right? The ones that they
would wear around their necks.
485
00:25:32,724 --> 00:25:34,517
[blows whistle]
486
00:25:34,551 --> 00:25:38,758
And there were something like
60 crew members
who died in that disaster.
487
00:25:38,793 --> 00:25:41,551
[Jess] I feel like I need
to learn more about the crew.
488
00:25:41,586 --> 00:25:44,586
Phil, you thought the wind
could have been
making the noises
489
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:46,379
that people were hearing
out there.
490
00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:49,482
And what do you think now?
Could that have been what
caused the whistling?
491
00:25:49,517 --> 00:25:50,965
[Phil] Well, there was
no wind that night,
492
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,862
so I don't know
what made that whistle.
493
00:25:52,896 --> 00:25:54,344
I think we should analyze it
494
00:25:54,379 --> 00:25:57,275
against the sounds of any
known animals
when we get back.
495
00:25:57,310 --> 00:26:01,103
[Jess] The other odd thing
is that we all felt kind
of just off.
496
00:26:01,137 --> 00:26:04,241
Like a little nauseous
and very uncomfortable.
497
00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:06,206
And we read that about
this place, right?
498
00:26:06,241 --> 00:26:11,000
That some of the witnesses
have noted feeling this unease
and sense of dread there.
499
00:26:11,034 --> 00:26:13,620
Well, Wellington's not at a
high enough elevation
500
00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:15,931
for something like
altitude sickness.
501
00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:18,586
[Phil] I felt that before.
This was something else.
502
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:23,034
Pretty much everybody
last night felt weird.
503
00:26:23,068 --> 00:26:25,172
Experienced strange feelings.
504
00:26:25,206 --> 00:26:27,344
Yes we were at a place
where a lot of people died
505
00:26:27,379 --> 00:26:30,586
but I'm also wondering
if there's something
else going on here
506
00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:34,655
and that would be a sound
that we can't actually hear.
507
00:26:34,689 --> 00:26:36,103
What do you mean
a sound we can't hear?
508
00:26:36,137 --> 00:26:38,000
You mean like, infrasound
or something?
509
00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:39,482
Exactly.
510
00:26:39,517 --> 00:26:41,068
So that's
an interesting idea, right?
511
00:26:41,103 --> 00:26:45,172
I mean there are these
frequencies that we can't
actually hear with our ears
512
00:26:45,206 --> 00:26:49,689
but scientists do suspect that
they can impact how we feel.
513
00:26:49,724 --> 00:26:51,827
They can make people
feel uneasy or scared.
514
00:26:51,862 --> 00:26:54,758
It's even been suggested that
those sort of frequencies
515
00:26:54,793 --> 00:26:57,517
could be what makes
a place seem haunted.
516
00:26:57,551 --> 00:27:01,620
Okay, well, if that's
the case, then, where would
the infrasound even come from?
517
00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:03,137
I guess that's the question.
518
00:27:03,172 --> 00:27:05,000
It's known to come
from seismic activity,
519
00:27:05,034 --> 00:27:06,827
it can come from traffic,
520
00:27:06,862 --> 00:27:08,827
there's a lot of different
sources out there,
521
00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:11,206
but I do wonder
if it's railroad connected.
522
00:27:11,241 --> 00:27:12,896
-[train horn blowing]
-Oh, you hear that
train right now?
523
00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:14,068
[Jess] I do.
524
00:27:14,103 --> 00:27:15,551
[Phil] Josh, I'm not sure
you can if hear right now,
525
00:27:15,586 --> 00:27:18,413
but there is a train going by
somewhere in the distance.
526
00:27:18,448 --> 00:27:20,034
Still an active railroad area
527
00:27:20,068 --> 00:27:22,241
which actually could lead into
the infrasound theory
528
00:27:22,275 --> 00:27:24,620
that maybe could
be a train passing by.
529
00:27:24,655 --> 00:27:27,275
That's a cool theory, Phil.
I would love
to have you test it out.
530
00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:30,275
And, Jess, if you think the
site is potentially haunted
531
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:33,068
not just by passengers
but maybe by the crew,
532
00:27:33,103 --> 00:27:36,172
I have located someone who you
absolutely have to meet.
533
00:27:36,206 --> 00:27:41,482
I found this railway historian
who has extensively researched
this incident
534
00:27:41,517 --> 00:27:43,206
and the people involved.
535
00:27:43,241 --> 00:27:45,482
[Jess] Great,
send us the info,
we'll go meet him.
536
00:27:45,517 --> 00:27:46,551
-[Josh] Great.
-Sweet.
537
00:27:46,586 --> 00:27:48,137
-Awesome. Bye, Josh.
-We'll meet up with him.
538
00:27:48,172 --> 00:27:49,034
[Josh] See you later.
539
00:27:53,241 --> 00:27:56,206
I'm sending Phil and Jess
to meet Kevin Weiderstrom.
540
00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:58,068
A retired Boeing mechanic,
541
00:27:58,103 --> 00:28:01,275
he now maintains the historic
Skykomish Depot.
542
00:28:01,310 --> 00:28:05,344
He's had a lifelong
fascination with the story of
the Wellington train disaster.
543
00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:10,379
He thinks there's more to the
story than anyone has heard.
544
00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:11,931
They tried to keep
the death toll down.
545
00:28:11,965 --> 00:28:14,827
I personally think that there
were a lot more people killed.
546
00:28:14,862 --> 00:28:16,862
-So you're saying there
is a bit of a cover up?
-Yes.
547
00:28:26,103 --> 00:28:29,103
-So you're saying there
is a bit of a cover up?
-Yes.
548
00:28:29,137 --> 00:28:33,241
-More people than 96 died?
-Yes, probably up to 150.
549
00:28:33,275 --> 00:28:37,379
Lot of the other people were
transient workers, they work
couple of days and leave.
550
00:28:37,413 --> 00:28:40,758
So there's been nothing
officially documenting
saying they were there?
551
00:28:40,793 --> 00:28:41,931
No. Not at all.
552
00:28:41,965 --> 00:28:43,689
-Wow.
-They tried to keep
the death toll down
553
00:28:43,724 --> 00:28:45,103
because people get scared.
554
00:28:45,137 --> 00:28:46,482
It was a psychological thing
555
00:28:46,517 --> 00:28:49,862
as well as a thing
for the railroad to keep
in business.
556
00:28:51,344 --> 00:28:54,206
[Jess] How were they able
to get all of the bodies
out of there?
557
00:28:54,241 --> 00:28:56,931
Well, it took weeks,
they were taking the bodies,
558
00:28:56,965 --> 00:29:01,620
they put them on toboggans
and went down all the way
to Windy Point.
559
00:29:01,655 --> 00:29:03,551
Down the dead man's slide
by rope.
560
00:29:03,586 --> 00:29:07,068
It's 800 to 1,000 feet down
the side of the mountain,
561
00:29:07,103 --> 00:29:09,655
and right down here at Scenic,
that's where they went.
562
00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:14,137
-Obviously the old train
route's no longer in use.
-Right.
563
00:29:14,172 --> 00:29:15,896
But there's still a train
that goes through here,
564
00:29:15,931 --> 00:29:17,689
-I mean we saw train tracks
right outside.
-Sure. Right.
565
00:29:17,724 --> 00:29:19,482
So does it pass by this area?
566
00:29:19,517 --> 00:29:22,000
It is below it,
about a 1,000 feet below it.
567
00:29:24,034 --> 00:29:26,689
[Jess] Considering
the strange whistle
we heard last night,
568
00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:29,758
I wonder about the conductor
on the doomed train.
569
00:29:29,793 --> 00:29:33,310
Could the sound be his signal
from the other side?
570
00:29:33,344 --> 00:29:35,896
So, I wanna know
about the conductor.
What's his story?
571
00:29:35,931 --> 00:29:36,793
Pettit.
572
00:29:37,827 --> 00:29:39,896
[Phil] Kevin tells us that
Joseph Pettit
573
00:29:39,931 --> 00:29:42,379
was one of the handful
of people who left the train
574
00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:44,965
and hiked nearly
four miles to safety.
575
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,206
But with passengers stranded
on his train,
576
00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:50,241
the conductor
didn't just walk away.
577
00:29:50,275 --> 00:29:51,482
[Kevin] He was trying
to get help.
578
00:29:51,517 --> 00:29:55,068
But he made his way back
to the train
579
00:29:55,103 --> 00:29:57,620
and unfortunately he was
killed in the avalanche.
580
00:29:59,448 --> 00:30:01,275
But that's beyond
just doing your duty,
581
00:30:01,310 --> 00:30:03,586
-I mean he climbed a mountain
for these people...
-Right.
582
00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:05,448
...and then died
in the avalanche.
583
00:30:05,482 --> 00:30:06,896
-Died in the avalanche.
-That is tragic.
584
00:30:06,931 --> 00:30:08,620
-So bad.
-Yeah.
585
00:30:08,655 --> 00:30:12,448
[Jess] Armed with new
information about where
and who to investigate,
586
00:30:12,482 --> 00:30:14,862
we head back to the site
of the disaster,
587
00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:16,517
the snow shed.
588
00:30:16,551 --> 00:30:20,103
[Phil] I think infrasound
waves coming from trains
on the new set of tracks
589
00:30:20,137 --> 00:30:22,379
could be causing
strange sensations
590
00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:25,344
that people might mistake
for paranormal activity
591
00:30:25,379 --> 00:30:26,344
at the avalanche site.
592
00:30:30,689 --> 00:30:32,758
-So check this thing out.
-Yeah, what is that?
593
00:30:32,793 --> 00:30:35,103
-This is a special microphone.
-Oh.
594
00:30:35,137 --> 00:30:38,275
That can hear super
high frequency
595
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:40,103
and super low frequencies.
596
00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:42,758
-Anything 20 and above,
we can hear.
-Uh-huh. Got it.
597
00:30:42,793 --> 00:30:45,448
But once it gets too low,
that becomes infrasound
598
00:30:45,482 --> 00:30:47,931
-and that's really
what I'm interested in.
-I see. Okay, gotcha.
599
00:30:47,965 --> 00:30:50,586
Lot of animals
can hear infrasound
600
00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:52,241
and communicate
through infrasound.
601
00:30:52,275 --> 00:30:53,413
-But we can't hear it.
-Uh-huh.
602
00:30:53,448 --> 00:30:56,655
But the theory is, and it's
even been proven in a lab,
603
00:30:56,689 --> 00:30:58,931
that it can make people
feel weird,
604
00:30:58,965 --> 00:31:01,758
certain frequencies
can vibrate your eyeballs
605
00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,413
and make you almost
see things.
606
00:31:03,448 --> 00:31:05,551
-That's kind of cool
-I know.
607
00:31:05,586 --> 00:31:07,586
-So we've got
this one set here.
-Uh-huh.
608
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:11,275
What I need to test is if when
a train goes by at Windy point
609
00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:17,137
is that sound strong enough
to essentially pass through
a mountain and hit here.
610
00:31:17,172 --> 00:31:19,896
So if we get a really
big spike
611
00:31:19,931 --> 00:31:21,793
this thing is connected
to my phone
612
00:31:21,827 --> 00:31:23,482
and it will send me a message.
613
00:31:23,517 --> 00:31:26,275
So potentially what happens
over there
614
00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:28,724
could be correlated with what
happens over here.
615
00:31:28,758 --> 00:31:31,827
-We've got ourselves
a long hike ahead.
-Oh, yes we do!
616
00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:37,000
[Jess] These were conductor
Pettit's last steps
617
00:31:37,034 --> 00:31:40,793
and the route used by rescuers
to recover dozens of bodies.
618
00:31:41,344 --> 00:31:42,586
[Phil] Wow!
619
00:31:44,448 --> 00:31:46,034
I'm getting tired.
620
00:31:46,068 --> 00:31:47,482
[Jess] I'm getting
tired too.
621
00:31:47,517 --> 00:31:52,068
[Phil] This is a long way
walk in not through
overhead height snow.
622
00:31:52,103 --> 00:31:54,275
-[Jess] Yeah.
-And not carrying
a body behind you.
623
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:56,758
And not worrying about
an avalanche falling
on top of you.
624
00:31:56,793 --> 00:31:58,448
[Phil] Yeah.
625
00:31:58,482 --> 00:32:01,896
-You feel that cold air?
-[Jess] Yeah. Ooh!
626
00:32:01,931 --> 00:32:04,689
-Man, all the way from here
you can feel that.
-[Phil] Wow.
627
00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:07,862
[Jess] Oh, how cool is this?
628
00:32:07,896 --> 00:32:10,068
-Look at this thing!
-[Phil] Ooh, that...
629
00:32:10,103 --> 00:32:13,655
-That's a huge tunnel!
-[Phil] ...is a huge tunnel.
630
00:32:13,689 --> 00:32:15,034
Look at the size
of this thing.
631
00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:17,758
-Wow.
-[Jess] All right.
632
00:32:17,793 --> 00:32:20,862
I mean that gets super dark,
you wanna bust
out the flashlights?
633
00:32:25,482 --> 00:32:26,862
At the far end of this,
634
00:32:26,896 --> 00:32:28,172
that's where
the dead man's slide is,
635
00:32:28,206 --> 00:32:30,551
where both the survivors went
636
00:32:30,586 --> 00:32:33,241
-and where all the dead bodies
went down.
-Exactly.
637
00:32:33,275 --> 00:32:34,965
So, I think while
we have some daylight,
638
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,586
we should try to book
it to the far end.
639
00:32:41,758 --> 00:32:44,793
-This is uh, spooky.
-[Jess] This is creepy.
640
00:32:44,827 --> 00:32:46,103
[Jess] Spooky.
641
00:32:46,137 --> 00:32:47,793
[Phil] Oh, we've got a cave
in up here.
642
00:32:47,827 --> 00:32:48,896
[Jess] Yeah.
643
00:32:48,931 --> 00:32:50,931
So really the only thing
protecting us
644
00:32:50,965 --> 00:32:54,275
are old wooden beams
from the original tunnel.
645
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:57,413
-That's comforting.
Excellent.
-That's something. Yeah.
646
00:32:57,448 --> 00:33:00,275
-Great. Cool.
Let's keep walking.
-[Phil] Perfect.
647
00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:04,206
[Jess] This tunnel
is a quarter mile long
and pitch black.
648
00:33:04,241 --> 00:33:06,241
There is a definite chill
in the air
649
00:33:06,275 --> 00:33:09,931
and I'm not convinced
it's just the temperature.
650
00:33:09,965 --> 00:33:12,068
[Phil] This thing is quite
the piece of engineering.
651
00:33:12,103 --> 00:33:15,000
[Jess] Oh, yeah.
Kind of scary.
652
00:33:16,103 --> 00:33:17,724
Which means right down here
653
00:33:17,758 --> 00:33:20,620
-this should
be dead man's slide.
-Oh, dead man's slide?
654
00:33:22,724 --> 00:33:24,379
[both panting]
655
00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:25,482
[Phil] This is insane.
656
00:33:25,517 --> 00:33:27,068
[Jess] So this is it?
657
00:33:27,103 --> 00:33:29,172
[Phil] This is it.
658
00:33:29,206 --> 00:33:31,000
-Look how steep that is.
-[Jess] Let me see.
659
00:33:31,896 --> 00:33:33,068
Careful!
660
00:33:33,103 --> 00:33:34,034
Oh, my gosh!
661
00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:36,068
Phil, I am uncomfortable
with you doing that.
662
00:33:37,793 --> 00:33:41,482
-Oh, yeah that is so steep!
-[Phil] Wow.
663
00:33:41,517 --> 00:33:46,655
-Look how far down this goes.
-Imagine trying
to transport bodies
664
00:33:46,689 --> 00:33:49,241
in the winter down this.
665
00:33:49,275 --> 00:33:52,965
This is about, what?
A 1,000 foot elevation drop?
666
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,206
And imagine
the conductor, Pettit.
667
00:33:55,241 --> 00:33:57,103
-He was stuck back there
in a blizzard.
-[Jess] Yeah.
668
00:33:57,137 --> 00:33:59,896
Would have to get here,
get all the way
down the mountain,
669
00:33:59,931 --> 00:34:01,310
ask for help,
670
00:34:01,344 --> 00:34:02,724
climb all the way back up
671
00:34:02,758 --> 00:34:07,068
and then miles back to the
train only to be killed
in an avalanche.
672
00:34:07,103 --> 00:34:11,448
-Yep. That's rough.
-That is some heroic effort
with a tragic ending.
673
00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:13,413
Yeah, that is rough.
674
00:34:13,448 --> 00:34:15,344
All right, let's just set up
for the investigation.
675
00:34:15,379 --> 00:34:17,655
All right, yeah.
The sooner we get going
the better.
676
00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:18,758
[Jess] Mm-hmm.
677
00:34:20,586 --> 00:34:23,655
All right, Jess, somewhere
down in that valley
is a modern train.
678
00:34:23,689 --> 00:34:25,172
-Yeah.
-So, I'm gonna go
679
00:34:25,206 --> 00:34:27,000
down the trail on the
outside of the tunnel
680
00:34:27,034 --> 00:34:28,655
and see if I can get a good
eye line on it.
681
00:34:28,689 --> 00:34:30,310
Okay, I'm gonna go back
inside the tunnel,
682
00:34:30,344 --> 00:34:32,655
I wanna try and track
for any paranormal activity
683
00:34:32,689 --> 00:34:35,068
and see if it matches up
with you're finding,
684
00:34:35,103 --> 00:34:37,241
on your end
because if it does,
685
00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:39,862
then maybe your theory
is correct and if it doesn't,
686
00:34:39,896 --> 00:34:43,034
then maybe my theory
is correct
and it might be haunted.
687
00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:44,310
-I'll take that wager.
-All right.
688
00:34:44,344 --> 00:34:45,620
-So you got your walkie
on you?
-Sure do.
689
00:34:48,275 --> 00:34:49,103
Look at that.
690
00:34:51,068 --> 00:34:53,689
Right there. Wow.
691
00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:56,896
Active train track way closer
than I thought it would be
692
00:34:56,931 --> 00:34:58,172
and there's the tunnel.
693
00:34:58,206 --> 00:35:02,448
This is right next to the old
track just 1,000 feet below.
694
00:35:03,379 --> 00:35:05,000
Okay. This is gonna be good.
695
00:35:07,862 --> 00:35:10,172
[Jess] I head back towards
the entrance of the tunnel
696
00:35:10,206 --> 00:35:12,862
and set up for a call
and response session.
697
00:35:12,896 --> 00:35:14,586
All right, this seems
to be a good spot.
698
00:35:16,275 --> 00:35:18,517
I'm going to reach out
to conductor Pettit
699
00:35:18,551 --> 00:35:22,068
or any of the other lost souls
whose bodies were transported
through here.
700
00:35:22,103 --> 00:35:23,000
All right.
701
00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:24,551
[machine humming]
702
00:35:31,655 --> 00:35:33,206
Is there anybody here with us?
703
00:35:37,034 --> 00:35:40,517
Were you one of the passengers
704
00:35:40,551 --> 00:35:43,896
on the train that was hit by
the avalanche in 1910?
705
00:35:46,206 --> 00:35:48,379
Conductor Pettit,
can you hear me?
706
00:35:52,379 --> 00:35:55,206
[Phil] All I have to do here
is wait for a train.
707
00:35:55,241 --> 00:35:58,620
I'm expecting that seconds
after a train rumbles through
708
00:35:58,655 --> 00:36:02,103
we'll get a notification
from the meter back
at the avalanche site.
709
00:36:02,137 --> 00:36:04,206
Saying that it's picking up
infrasound.
710
00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:07,103
[Jess] Did you work
for the railroad?
711
00:36:12,034 --> 00:36:16,275
Are you angry that the
railroad company tried
to cover up so many deaths?
712
00:36:19,241 --> 00:36:20,724
[machine beeping]
713
00:36:20,758 --> 00:36:22,793
Joseph Pettit, is that you?
714
00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:28,862
Oh, [bleep]!
715
00:36:29,862 --> 00:36:31,413
Ah, [bleep]!
716
00:36:31,448 --> 00:36:32,620
That was weird.
717
00:36:40,034 --> 00:36:42,275
[Josh] The 1910 Wellington
avalanche
718
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:46,172
compelled researchers
to figure out ways to prevent
future disasters.
719
00:36:47,137 --> 00:36:49,758
One method
is to set up snow fences,
720
00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:52,620
which can help control
accumulation on the slopes.
721
00:36:53,275 --> 00:36:55,103
Another way? Explosives.
722
00:36:55,137 --> 00:36:56,517
[explosion]
723
00:36:58,137 --> 00:37:01,655
Intentionally using
detonations to fracture
the snow pack
724
00:37:01,689 --> 00:37:04,103
and trigger controlled slides,
725
00:37:04,137 --> 00:37:06,896
reducing the risks
of unpredictable ones.
726
00:37:06,931 --> 00:37:10,827
That's done either by shooting
the mountain side
with live artillery rounds.
727
00:37:11,482 --> 00:37:12,896
[explosion]
728
00:37:16,413 --> 00:37:18,689
Or dropping charges
from a helicopter.
729
00:37:22,551 --> 00:37:25,655
Or even having
a very brave ski patrol
730
00:37:25,689 --> 00:37:27,413
place explosives by hand.
731
00:37:27,448 --> 00:37:28,862
[explosion]
732
00:37:33,172 --> 00:37:36,103
Which I have to admit looks
like a total blast.
733
00:37:43,517 --> 00:37:45,275
Oh, [bleep]!
734
00:37:46,517 --> 00:37:48,034
Ah, [bleep]!
735
00:37:48,068 --> 00:37:49,517
That was weird.
736
00:37:49,551 --> 00:37:53,620
The bizarre nauseated feeling
we had at the crash site
is back.
737
00:37:54,448 --> 00:37:55,793
Phil, do you copy?
738
00:37:58,655 --> 00:37:59,862
[Phil] Yeah, what's up?
739
00:38:00,862 --> 00:38:03,000
[Jess] I had that queasy
feeling again.
740
00:38:03,034 --> 00:38:05,655
It was so weird.
741
00:38:05,689 --> 00:38:07,655
I actually had
to take the headphones off.
742
00:38:07,689 --> 00:38:10,896
Are you getting any readings
on your meter just now?
743
00:38:10,931 --> 00:38:12,620
Do you see any trains
coming through?
744
00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:14,586
[Phil] Stand by.
745
00:38:17,689 --> 00:38:19,137
[train horn blaring]
746
00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:21,275
Okay, you see that light?
Right there. Right there.
There's the train.
747
00:38:23,517 --> 00:38:24,896
Hear that rumble?
748
00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:26,965
We got a hit!
749
00:38:27,758 --> 00:38:29,379
[Phil] Jess! Jess!
You there?
750
00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:30,689
Yeah, copy.
751
00:38:30,724 --> 00:38:32,689
Jess, we just got
the first hit
752
00:38:32,724 --> 00:38:36,655
from the infrasound meter
miles away at the avalanche
crash site.
753
00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:37,655
I'm gonna come your way
754
00:38:37,689 --> 00:38:39,793
because I got the results
I was looking for,
755
00:38:39,827 --> 00:38:41,862
so I wanna see what was
happening on your end.
756
00:38:41,896 --> 00:38:44,000
Okay. I'll pack up
and meet you.
757
00:38:44,034 --> 00:38:45,379
All right. Coming in.
Coming in.
758
00:38:50,827 --> 00:38:54,620
Wow, we got a major,
like huge spike
759
00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:57,724
on the infrasound back
at the avalanche site.
760
00:38:57,758 --> 00:38:59,896
You combine with the
tragic history,
761
00:38:59,931 --> 00:39:02,931
I think there's a chance
that some of the paranormal
experiences
762
00:39:02,965 --> 00:39:05,241
they could be explained...
763
00:39:05,275 --> 00:39:07,137
-Mm-hmm.
-...by that combination.
764
00:39:07,172 --> 00:39:10,724
[Jess] The REM pod went
off in the tunnel right before
the train arrived.
765
00:39:10,758 --> 00:39:14,000
But that device doesn't react
to infrasound.
766
00:39:14,034 --> 00:39:16,931
Maybe the train is acting
as some sort of trigger
767
00:39:16,965 --> 00:39:19,586
for the ghosts of the
avalanche victims, you know?
768
00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,344
I heard whistling next
to my ear
769
00:39:23,379 --> 00:39:26,827
when we were over
at the actual crash site.
770
00:39:26,862 --> 00:39:29,344
-Mm-hmm.
-That wasn't infrasound.
771
00:39:29,379 --> 00:39:32,172
The mind can play a lot
of tricks on you
772
00:39:32,206 --> 00:39:34,206
when you wanna hear
what you wanna hear.
773
00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:36,896
I'd be interested in
analyzing the audio
that you got...
774
00:39:36,931 --> 00:39:38,896
-Yeah.
-...just to see if we can pick
it apart better
775
00:39:38,931 --> 00:39:41,620
and figure what
that actual noise was.
776
00:39:47,862 --> 00:39:50,034
[Josh] When Phil and Jess
returned from Washington,
777
00:39:50,068 --> 00:39:52,689
we isolated the whistle
sound from our footage.
778
00:39:53,517 --> 00:39:54,758
[whistling]
779
00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:57,655
We compared
it to the vocalizations
780
00:39:57,689 --> 00:40:00,241
of birds and mammals known
to live in the region.
781
00:40:01,344 --> 00:40:02,586
[chirping]
782
00:40:07,275 --> 00:40:09,862
The whistle sound doesn't
match up with any of them.
783
00:40:11,206 --> 00:40:14,931
Our cameras did capture
various animals around
the snow shed.
784
00:40:14,965 --> 00:40:18,241
But none of them
seemed consistent
with the ghostly figure
785
00:40:18,275 --> 00:40:19,172
caught on video.
786
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,827
We analyzed the audio
of Jess's call and response
at the snow shed
787
00:40:26,862 --> 00:40:27,965
and at the tunnel.
788
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,310
[Jess] Is there anyone here
in the tunnel with us?
789
00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:33,000
[Josh] And there were a few
strange sounds.
790
00:40:33,034 --> 00:40:37,896
But no singing, humming
or anything we could identify
as a voice.
791
00:40:37,931 --> 00:40:41,620
And there's no easy answer
for what happened
with Jess's recorder
792
00:40:41,655 --> 00:40:44,793
as she read aloud the words
of an avalanche victim.
793
00:40:44,827 --> 00:40:46,482
[Jess or recorder]
Mountain... beautiful
and we're all...
794
00:40:46,517 --> 00:40:48,068
[Jess] Okay,
this is really weird.
795
00:40:48,103 --> 00:40:49,655
[Josh] We had the device
checked out
796
00:40:49,689 --> 00:40:52,758
and it is in perfect
working order.
797
00:40:52,793 --> 00:40:57,724
So, can we conclude whether
lost souls from the Wellington
train disaster
798
00:40:57,758 --> 00:40:59,655
still haunt
that mountainside?
799
00:40:59,689 --> 00:41:01,620
A reaction to infrasound
800
00:41:01,655 --> 00:41:03,517
is a rational explanation
801
00:41:03,551 --> 00:41:07,206
for some of the alleged
paranormal experiences
reported.
802
00:41:07,241 --> 00:41:08,862
But as Jess points out,
803
00:41:08,896 --> 00:41:11,862
it can't explain everything
that witnesses have heard
804
00:41:11,896 --> 00:41:12,827
and seen.
805
00:41:13,931 --> 00:41:16,103
In light of such
a terrible tragedy
806
00:41:16,137 --> 00:41:19,896
perhaps there is some comfort
in believing that the spirit
of Conductor Pettit
807
00:41:19,931 --> 00:41:21,862
is still looking out
for his passengers
808
00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,000
that remain stranded.
809
00:41:23,724 --> 00:41:24,448
[whistle blows]
810
00:41:25,965 --> 00:41:28,965
Perhaps he's making sure
their lives and their loss
811
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,965
will not be forgotten
and buried by time.
812
00:41:34,137 --> 00:41:36,068
For more information
on Expedition X
813
00:41:36,103 --> 00:41:39,413
head to
discovery.com/expeditionx.
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