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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,241 --> 00:00:04,413 [Phil] Look how steep that is. 2 00:00:04,448 --> 00:00:06,551 [Jess] Careful. Oh, my gosh. 3 00:00:06,586 --> 00:00:10,068 [Josh] Phil and Jess head to the wilds of the Pacific Northwest. 4 00:00:10,103 --> 00:00:13,275 To investigate a paranormal hotspot. 5 00:00:13,310 --> 00:00:15,965 [Bert] I heard a disembodied voice of a woman humming. 6 00:00:18,482 --> 00:00:21,620 [Josh] At the site of horrific train tragedy. 7 00:00:21,655 --> 00:00:25,137 [Phil] Can you imagine, you're sitting there in a crowded car, 8 00:00:25,172 --> 00:00:27,448 -and then this crushing force on top of it. -[Jess] Yeah. 9 00:00:29,034 --> 00:00:31,965 This is essentially, you know, a graveyard. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,551 [man] I personally think that there were a lot more people killed. 11 00:00:34,586 --> 00:00:36,758 -So, you're saying there's a bit of a cover up? -Yes. 12 00:00:38,413 --> 00:00:43,448 [Josh] The truth behind this haunting disaster was kept hidden until now. 13 00:00:43,482 --> 00:00:47,482 So, you got this footage, right on top of the accident site? 14 00:00:47,517 --> 00:00:49,965 Yeah. I saw the head right there. 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,620 [Josh] We uncover the buried secrets of... 16 00:00:52,655 --> 00:00:53,862 [Jess] Is that you? 17 00:00:54,620 --> 00:00:55,931 Did you just hear whistling? 18 00:00:57,793 --> 00:00:59,758 [Josh] ...the Avalanche Ghost Train. 19 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:07,482 [Josh] My name is Josh Gates. 20 00:01:07,517 --> 00:01:11,862 In my travels, I've experienced strange things that defy logic, 21 00:01:11,896 --> 00:01:14,310 and made me question everything. 22 00:01:14,344 --> 00:01:16,034 Oh, my God. 23 00:01:16,068 --> 00:01:17,758 [Josh] Now, I've put together a team 24 00:01:17,793 --> 00:01:20,758 to investigate the stranger side of the unknown. 25 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:23,275 Let's go. 26 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:26,965 [Josh] Phil Torres is a scientist who hunts for rational explanations. 27 00:01:31,103 --> 00:01:35,310 Jessica Chobot's paranormal research, has made her a true believer. 28 00:01:35,344 --> 00:01:37,413 If you're here with us, knock again. 29 00:01:37,448 --> 00:01:40,172 [Josh] Together, we're searching for answers. 30 00:01:40,206 --> 00:01:41,689 [Phil] What is happening here, Jess? 31 00:01:41,724 --> 00:01:45,137 [Josh] To the world's most extraordinary mysteries. 32 00:01:45,172 --> 00:01:48,344 This isExpedition X. 33 00:01:51,517 --> 00:01:52,793 All right. Jess, Phil, 34 00:01:52,827 --> 00:01:55,482 when was the last time the two of you took a trip by train? 35 00:01:55,517 --> 00:01:59,275 I took a lovely trip on a bullet train a few years back in Japan. 36 00:01:59,310 --> 00:02:02,068 Yeah, I took a sleeper car across Europe a few summers back. 37 00:02:02,103 --> 00:02:04,275 Nothing like falling asleep to the rumble of a train. 38 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:05,758 Both those sound lovely. 39 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:07,724 Now, imagine it's the dead of winter 40 00:02:07,758 --> 00:02:09,724 and a blizzard rolls in. 41 00:02:09,758 --> 00:02:10,896 Your train gets stuck. 42 00:02:10,931 --> 00:02:13,620 Snow is piling up past the windows 43 00:02:13,655 --> 00:02:16,000 and you are trapped for days. 44 00:02:16,034 --> 00:02:18,379 Food is running low. There is no heat, 45 00:02:18,413 --> 00:02:21,241 no power, and then it gets worse. 46 00:02:21,275 --> 00:02:22,551 No Wi-Fi. 47 00:02:22,586 --> 00:02:24,000 That does sound like your nightmare, Jess. 48 00:02:24,034 --> 00:02:25,482 -It does. -This is a real nightmare. 49 00:02:25,517 --> 00:02:27,310 This is actually a true story. 50 00:02:27,344 --> 00:02:30,068 And it goes down as one of the deadliest train disasters 51 00:02:30,103 --> 00:02:32,172 in American history. 52 00:02:32,206 --> 00:02:36,862 And some say, that even now a century later, the ghosts of that tragedy, 53 00:02:36,896 --> 00:02:39,689 still haunt the mountains of the Pacific Northwest. 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,862 [Josh] February 22nd, 1910. 55 00:02:45,896 --> 00:02:47,827 Winding through the Cascade mountains, 56 00:02:47,862 --> 00:02:51,482 the Great Northern Railway, passenger train number 25, 57 00:02:51,517 --> 00:02:54,724 is on an east-west journey from Spokane to Seattle. 58 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:57,241 Aboard are 55 passengers. 59 00:02:57,275 --> 00:03:00,862 From commuting businessmen to vacationing families. 60 00:03:00,896 --> 00:03:04,068 They expect an uneventful overnight journey. 61 00:03:04,103 --> 00:03:09,034 But fate makes the tiny town of Wellington their final stop. 62 00:03:09,068 --> 00:03:11,827 Snow begins falling at up to a foot per hour. 63 00:03:11,862 --> 00:03:14,862 Burying the tracks under 20-foot-high drifts. 64 00:03:16,862 --> 00:03:19,724 Snow ploughs fail and the train can't move. 65 00:03:19,758 --> 00:03:22,827 Days pass and anxious passengers 66 00:03:22,862 --> 00:03:25,344 are running low on food and coal 67 00:03:25,379 --> 00:03:28,241 to heat the train cars. 68 00:03:28,275 --> 00:03:31,137 A few trek nearly four miles through stormy weather 69 00:03:31,172 --> 00:03:35,000 and deep snow drifts to the next outpost. 70 00:03:35,034 --> 00:03:37,793 But most have to stay put on the stranded train, 71 00:03:37,827 --> 00:03:40,931 unable to make the treacherous hike. 72 00:03:42,482 --> 00:03:46,896 Six days after the train stalled, the snow turns to rain. 73 00:03:46,931 --> 00:03:50,689 Everyone celebrates believing that soon, they'll be on their way again. 74 00:03:52,896 --> 00:03:56,379 But Mother Nature has other plans. 75 00:03:56,413 --> 00:04:00,310 On March 1st around30 a.m., lightning flashes. 76 00:04:00,344 --> 00:04:02,344 Thunder cracks. 77 00:04:02,379 --> 00:04:07,413 Suddenly a slab of ice, more than a quarter-mile wide roars down the mountain side, 78 00:04:08,862 --> 00:04:12,172 turning rocks and trees into high speed projectiles 79 00:04:12,206 --> 00:04:15,758 that slam into the helpless train, 80 00:04:15,793 --> 00:04:19,793 hurling it more than a 150 feet into the ravine below. 81 00:04:21,896 --> 00:04:27,724 It's a mangled heap of metal, ice, splintered trees and human bodies. 82 00:04:27,758 --> 00:04:31,689 Rescue crews managed to pull 23 people to safety. 83 00:04:31,724 --> 00:04:33,000 But the rest are dead. 84 00:04:35,034 --> 00:04:38,034 The final body isn't recovered until the end of July. 85 00:04:39,586 --> 00:04:43,655 The official death toll is 96. 86 00:04:43,689 --> 00:04:48,103 The Wellington disaster, remains the deadliest avalanche in US history. 87 00:04:49,724 --> 00:04:51,896 Now, over a century later, 88 00:04:51,931 --> 00:04:55,758 hikers are reporting paranormal activity around the accident site. 89 00:04:56,931 --> 00:04:59,206 People claim to hear ghostly voices, 90 00:04:59,241 --> 00:05:02,310 laugher, strange humming and singing, 91 00:05:02,344 --> 00:05:05,689 and an eerie unsettling feeling that overtakes them. 92 00:05:08,068 --> 00:05:11,793 One man captured on camera what appears to be an apparition. 93 00:05:17,241 --> 00:05:21,137 Reports of unexplained phenomena around the abandoned tracks 94 00:05:21,172 --> 00:05:23,689 have escalated over the past few months. 95 00:05:23,724 --> 00:05:25,965 So, the time to investigate is now, 96 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,448 before snow covers the evidence again. 97 00:05:33,344 --> 00:05:34,689 So what do you think? 98 00:05:34,724 --> 00:05:38,586 So much trauma, and death concentrated in one location, 99 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:40,448 I think it's gotta be haunted. 100 00:05:40,482 --> 00:05:44,172 I really wanna talk to the guy that caught that ghostly image on camera. 101 00:05:44,206 --> 00:05:45,724 Phil, what do you make of the video? 102 00:05:45,758 --> 00:05:48,724 [Phil] There are some plausible explanations for what he caught on tape. 103 00:05:48,758 --> 00:05:51,379 It could be atmospheric conditions. It could be an animal. 104 00:05:51,413 --> 00:05:53,827 It could be a trick of the light. 105 00:05:53,862 --> 00:05:56,896 Yeah, but the witness also said that he heard voices at the disaster site 106 00:05:56,931 --> 00:05:58,586 and other people have reported that too. 107 00:05:58,620 --> 00:06:01,413 So, this video's not an isolated incident. 108 00:06:01,448 --> 00:06:02,655 But it's also a windy place. 109 00:06:02,689 --> 00:06:06,137 Wind can make strange sounds. And so can wildlife. 110 00:06:06,172 --> 00:06:08,586 So, the two of you have got to get up there and check this out. 111 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:11,172 You're gonna be the first team on TV to ever investigate the wreck 112 00:06:11,206 --> 00:06:13,448 and the paranormal claims surrounding it. 113 00:06:13,482 --> 00:06:16,758 -That's kind of awesome. -All right. Get ready to see a ghost. 114 00:06:16,793 --> 00:06:19,620 Well, it sounds like the two of you are all aboard. 115 00:06:19,655 --> 00:06:20,724 [groaning] 116 00:06:20,758 --> 00:06:22,517 I'm sorry. 117 00:06:22,551 --> 00:06:24,172 Just gonna let that one wash over me. 118 00:06:24,206 --> 00:06:25,344 Please do. 119 00:06:26,689 --> 00:06:29,655 [Josh] Phil and Jess, fly 2200 miles from New York 120 00:06:29,689 --> 00:06:31,275 to Spokane, Washington. 121 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:34,862 From there, it's a four hour drive west into the Cascade mountains. 122 00:06:39,965 --> 00:06:41,310 [Jess] Gorgeous. 123 00:06:41,344 --> 00:06:43,896 This is one of my favorite patches in wilderness in all the US. 124 00:06:43,931 --> 00:06:46,068 -I come here every single spring. -Mm-hmm. 125 00:06:46,103 --> 00:06:49,137 And yet I've never heard this story about the train. 126 00:06:50,551 --> 00:06:52,517 -[Jess] Look at this [bleep]. -[Phil] Oof! 127 00:06:52,551 --> 00:06:54,103 So, this is logging? 128 00:06:54,137 --> 00:06:56,241 [Phil] All of these downed trees, this is not logging. 129 00:06:56,275 --> 00:06:58,517 This is wreckage from an avalanche. 130 00:06:58,551 --> 00:07:00,965 What? Whoa! 131 00:07:03,034 --> 00:07:05,137 -[Jess] Whoa! -[Phil] Are you kidding me? 132 00:07:05,172 --> 00:07:07,034 -[Phil] Look at that! -[Jess] I mean, this is recent. 133 00:07:07,517 --> 00:07:08,620 [Phil] Oh, my God! 134 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:11,965 Wow! 135 00:07:12,758 --> 00:07:13,965 [Phil] Oof! 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,172 -[Phil] That's incredible. -[Jess] There's snow. 137 00:07:17,034 --> 00:07:19,517 Ooh! That is just packed. 138 00:07:21,206 --> 00:07:22,172 [laughs] 139 00:07:24,103 --> 00:07:26,827 -Not cool, Jess. -Oh, come on. 140 00:07:27,310 --> 00:07:28,827 Have some fun. 141 00:07:28,862 --> 00:07:30,275 I mean, that is like concrete though. 142 00:07:30,310 --> 00:07:32,275 You would never survive getting hit by something like that. 143 00:07:32,310 --> 00:07:35,827 Yeah. If you think about all the snow pack that happens here. 144 00:07:35,862 --> 00:07:39,931 And they say in this area of Washington, they can get up to 25 feet. 145 00:07:39,965 --> 00:07:42,931 -Yeah. -All gets compressed, turns into this giant ice cube 146 00:07:42,965 --> 00:07:44,586 just rushing down. Look at what it did. 147 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:47,275 Look how thick that tree is. 148 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:50,758 [Phil] Avalanches occur when wind, rain or human activity 149 00:07:50,793 --> 00:07:56,000 causes a layer of snow to suddenly fracture and detach from a mountain slope, 150 00:07:56,034 --> 00:07:59,206 sending thousands of tons of snow, hurtling down 151 00:07:59,241 --> 00:08:02,137 at speeds of up to 200 miles per hour. 152 00:08:02,172 --> 00:08:06,137 Anyone below, like those trapped on the Great Northern Train, 153 00:08:06,172 --> 00:08:08,137 would have only seconds to try to escape. 154 00:08:08,172 --> 00:08:09,896 [Jess] Man, you can see, like, the trees, 155 00:08:09,931 --> 00:08:12,103 how they're flattened and bent like that. 156 00:08:12,137 --> 00:08:13,827 -[Phil] Yeah. -Man! 157 00:08:17,068 --> 00:08:19,620 [Josh] Jess and Phil continue to Skykomish 158 00:08:19,655 --> 00:08:21,793 which would have been one of the next stops 159 00:08:21,827 --> 00:08:24,482 on the train's ill-fated journey. 160 00:08:24,517 --> 00:08:26,344 There, I've arranged for them to meet someone 161 00:08:26,379 --> 00:08:28,724 who has a very personal connection to the tragedy. 162 00:08:29,862 --> 00:08:32,793 Sheila Hagar is a local reporter. 163 00:08:32,827 --> 00:08:36,103 And a descendant of one of the avalanche victims. 164 00:08:36,137 --> 00:08:39,758 What kind of sparked your desire to find out more about 165 00:08:39,793 --> 00:08:43,068 your great grandmother's involvement in the Wellington Avalanche? 166 00:08:43,103 --> 00:08:45,724 I just typed my grandfather's name into Google. 167 00:08:45,758 --> 00:08:50,724 And I come across this little tidbit about Sarah Jane Covington. 168 00:08:50,758 --> 00:08:52,172 And I'm just stunned. 169 00:08:53,068 --> 00:08:54,827 [Jess] 69-year-old Sarah Covington 170 00:08:54,862 --> 00:08:57,413 was in Spokane caring for her sick son 171 00:08:57,448 --> 00:09:00,724 and was travelling alone back to Seattle when the avalanche hit. 172 00:09:00,758 --> 00:09:05,034 She never made it home to celebrate her 51st wedding anniversary. 173 00:09:05,068 --> 00:09:06,827 So nobody in the family ever talked about this? 174 00:09:06,862 --> 00:09:08,310 Not to me. 175 00:09:08,344 --> 00:09:12,827 Not many people at all knew that this 1910 avalanche had occurred. 176 00:09:12,862 --> 00:09:15,655 When I wrote about it people had no idea. 177 00:09:15,689 --> 00:09:18,965 I think the railroad company did their very best 178 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,551 to make sure it was forgotten. 179 00:09:20,586 --> 00:09:23,793 For them, this was a terrible PR... 180 00:09:23,827 --> 00:09:25,000 -Mm-hmm. -...issue. 181 00:09:25,034 --> 00:09:27,758 If people were afraid to go on that train 182 00:09:27,793 --> 00:09:29,862 they weren't going to have customers. 183 00:09:29,896 --> 00:09:33,413 Josh had mentioned that you'd actually come across some of your 184 00:09:33,448 --> 00:09:37,310 great-great grandmother's writing from when she was on the train. 185 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:38,793 Yes. 186 00:09:38,827 --> 00:09:42,000 I don't know whether it was on her body when they found it. 187 00:09:42,034 --> 00:09:44,448 Or possibly in her luggage. 188 00:09:44,482 --> 00:09:45,862 What was going on inside that train? 189 00:09:45,896 --> 00:09:48,551 Let me show you. 190 00:09:48,586 --> 00:09:51,724 [Sheila] She's not very worried when the train actually gets snowbound. 191 00:09:52,689 --> 00:09:55,517 [Sarah] "February 27th, 1910. 192 00:09:55,551 --> 00:09:57,413 My dear husband and children, 193 00:09:57,448 --> 00:10:01,068 I, with 100 or so, are snowbound here." 194 00:10:01,103 --> 00:10:05,379 She does talk about how one young man 195 00:10:05,413 --> 00:10:07,689 was able to play music. 196 00:10:07,724 --> 00:10:11,172 He had a horn. But that people were very blue. 197 00:10:11,206 --> 00:10:14,034 [Sarah] "Quite a number play cards and drink, 198 00:10:14,068 --> 00:10:16,620 talk slang and any old thing. 199 00:10:16,655 --> 00:10:19,172 We have no water and very little fuel. 200 00:10:19,206 --> 00:10:22,482 I am trusting in God to save us. 201 00:10:22,517 --> 00:10:25,862 Some are in deadly fear that a landslide will come down on us." 202 00:10:27,068 --> 00:10:29,103 Can we get a copy of some of these documents? 203 00:10:29,137 --> 00:10:33,103 -You guys can take all of this and pursue. -[Jess] Awesome. Thank you. 204 00:10:33,137 --> 00:10:34,724 All of this! What else do we have in here? 205 00:10:34,758 --> 00:10:37,448 [Jess] Victims list. This is very helpful. 206 00:10:37,482 --> 00:10:39,586 -This is a great place to start. -Yeah. 207 00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:42,931 [Jess] Now that we have more information about who was on the train, 208 00:10:42,965 --> 00:10:46,724 we need to investigate the actual site of the disaster. 209 00:10:46,758 --> 00:10:51,310 It's a half-hour drive east to where the accident happened and the old train route. 210 00:10:51,344 --> 00:10:53,620 Then it's a hike up to the site. 211 00:10:53,655 --> 00:10:56,862 I'm curious to connect with whatever spirits may be lingering here. 212 00:10:58,344 --> 00:11:01,965 Josh has arranged for us to meet Bert Coates. 213 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,379 A graphic designer, he has lived in the area for 40 years 214 00:11:05,413 --> 00:11:08,724 and spends most of his weekends hiking and camping in the mountains. 215 00:11:09,827 --> 00:11:11,931 One night around the disaster site, 216 00:11:11,965 --> 00:11:14,275 he captured and eerie figure on camera. 217 00:11:17,034 --> 00:11:20,413 So you had an experience around here. 218 00:11:20,448 --> 00:11:21,551 I did. 219 00:11:21,586 --> 00:11:23,310 -I hiked up here... -[Jess] Mm-hmm. 220 00:11:23,344 --> 00:11:27,620 [Bert] ...and I had heard a disembodied voice of a woman that just started humming. 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,827 And then she started singing. 222 00:11:32,862 --> 00:11:35,000 -[Jess] Really? -[Bert] But you couldn't really make out the words 223 00:11:35,034 --> 00:11:36,655 of what she was singing. 224 00:11:39,310 --> 00:11:41,448 -Did you recognize the song at all? -No, not at all. 225 00:11:41,482 --> 00:11:43,620 Did you know the history of this place before coming here? 226 00:11:43,655 --> 00:11:45,206 Not until after I went back home. 227 00:11:45,241 --> 00:11:47,448 After the hike I started looking at the history of Wellington. 228 00:11:47,482 --> 00:11:49,586 So, essentially, you had your first experience here. 229 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:51,793 -Yeah. -And it sounds like you kept coming back... 230 00:11:51,827 --> 00:11:53,137 -Oh, yeah. -...at night to try 231 00:11:53,172 --> 00:11:54,482 -to figure out what was happening? -Yep. 232 00:11:54,517 --> 00:11:57,379 -So, the video, can you show us what happened? -Absolutely. 233 00:11:57,413 --> 00:11:59,758 [Phil] All right. 234 00:11:59,793 --> 00:12:02,724 [Jess] Bert takes us down the trail to the snow shed. 235 00:12:02,758 --> 00:12:05,965 A massive half mile long concrete structure 236 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,379 built after the avalanche to shield the tracks from future disasters. 237 00:12:12,068 --> 00:12:14,172 [Phil] I definitely recognize these pillars from your video. 238 00:12:14,206 --> 00:12:16,275 [Bert] Yeah. 239 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:19,931 I'd hiked to the snow shed. We started having problems with the camera. 240 00:12:19,965 --> 00:12:21,689 The batteries just started draining, 241 00:12:21,724 --> 00:12:24,793 so I stepped off to the side with the camera 242 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:29,379 and I wasn't paying attention to what I was filming when I captured the image. 243 00:12:29,413 --> 00:12:31,275 And so then you were recording down in this direction? 244 00:12:31,310 --> 00:12:33,206 Yep. I was recording right at that angle. 245 00:12:33,241 --> 00:12:34,172 Which pillar would it be? 246 00:12:35,172 --> 00:12:36,655 I saw the head right there. 247 00:12:38,655 --> 00:12:40,344 -So, here, right? -Yes. 248 00:12:40,655 --> 00:12:41,689 Okay. 249 00:12:41,724 --> 00:12:44,068 [Phil] There are a lot of deer tracks over here. 250 00:12:44,103 --> 00:12:45,448 [Bert] There are. 251 00:12:45,482 --> 00:12:47,965 But even I will quickly admit that looked nothing like a deer. 252 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,965 [Jess] That looked like a person's head and shoulders. 253 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,827 [Jess] I think Bert captured a lost soul from the train disaster. 254 00:12:53,862 --> 00:12:57,379 This area is where the trains would have been. 255 00:12:57,413 --> 00:12:58,965 [Bert] Yes. 256 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,448 [Phil] I think what he caught on camera was a glimpse of an animal. 257 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:05,551 And what he's heard, including the humming and singing, 258 00:13:05,586 --> 00:13:07,862 might simply be the sounds of birds 259 00:13:07,896 --> 00:13:09,931 echoing through the snow shed. 260 00:13:09,965 --> 00:13:15,413 So you got this footage essentially right on top of the accident site. 261 00:13:15,448 --> 00:13:16,413 Pretty much, yeah. 262 00:13:18,724 --> 00:13:21,827 The debris field's down this direction over here. 263 00:13:21,862 --> 00:13:23,206 [Jess] Ooh, okay. 264 00:13:23,241 --> 00:13:25,586 -[Phil] Right down there. So it's over this ledge. -[Bert] Right. 265 00:13:25,620 --> 00:13:27,517 -What else is down there? -The Tye River. 266 00:13:27,551 --> 00:13:29,000 And then you'll see a bunch of debris. 267 00:13:29,034 --> 00:13:31,965 Well, Jess, I think we should try to get down to the debris field... 268 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,103 -Yeah. -... and do that before it gets dark. 269 00:13:34,137 --> 00:13:35,655 -Yeah. Thanks. -[Bert] Good luck. 270 00:13:35,689 --> 00:13:37,931 -See ya. -See ya later. 271 00:13:37,965 --> 00:13:41,413 [Phil] We're going to have to get to the crash site the same way the train went, 272 00:13:41,448 --> 00:13:42,965 all the way down this cliff. 273 00:13:44,275 --> 00:13:46,896 -Oh, that is steep! -Do you have your gear? 274 00:13:46,931 --> 00:13:48,206 -I've got my gear. -Yeah. 275 00:13:48,241 --> 00:13:49,931 So, what, rope off to one of these trees? 276 00:13:49,965 --> 00:13:52,103 [Jess] Rope off to a tree and let's shimmy down. 277 00:14:00,137 --> 00:14:01,517 -[Jess] You first? -Yeah. 278 00:14:11,620 --> 00:14:12,827 Okay. 279 00:14:12,862 --> 00:14:14,206 All right. I can see we're getting close. 280 00:14:14,241 --> 00:14:15,862 You think that's gonna... That's not enough line. 281 00:14:15,896 --> 00:14:18,344 We'll see how far we can go. 282 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,206 -Get ready. -Yeah. 283 00:14:25,068 --> 00:14:26,620 [Phil] Whoa! 284 00:14:26,655 --> 00:14:27,862 Oh! Are you all right? 285 00:14:28,827 --> 00:14:30,586 -I'm good. -Are you okay? 286 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:32,310 Yeah. I'm good. 287 00:14:32,344 --> 00:14:34,793 Careful, careful. We've got a rockslide here. 288 00:14:35,965 --> 00:14:37,068 Look at this! 289 00:14:38,551 --> 00:14:40,620 [Phil] Oh, my God! 290 00:14:47,206 --> 00:14:49,103 [Phil] Careful, careful. We've got a rockslide here. 291 00:14:50,517 --> 00:14:51,586 Look at this! 292 00:14:51,620 --> 00:14:54,000 Oh, my God! 293 00:14:54,034 --> 00:14:57,758 Solid steel. Completely collapsed in. 294 00:14:57,793 --> 00:15:00,103 It got smashed. The rivets all popped out. 295 00:15:00,137 --> 00:15:03,620 Can you imagine? You're sitting there in a crowded car. 296 00:15:03,655 --> 00:15:05,344 -Mm-hmm. -Desperate for days. 297 00:15:05,379 --> 00:15:08,172 -And then this crushing force on top of it. -Yeah. 298 00:15:08,206 --> 00:15:10,172 It took them months to find all the bodies here. 299 00:15:10,206 --> 00:15:12,068 Months! Because of the conditions. 300 00:15:12,103 --> 00:15:14,275 Let's just keep that in mind while we're exploring. 301 00:15:14,310 --> 00:15:16,689 Let's remember that a lot of people passed away here. 302 00:15:16,724 --> 00:15:18,413 I mean, this is essentially, you know, a graveyard. 303 00:15:19,103 --> 00:15:20,689 Okay. 304 00:15:20,724 --> 00:15:22,827 [Phil] Lots of debris over here. 305 00:15:24,689 --> 00:15:26,827 The roots of this tree are growing right through, 306 00:15:26,862 --> 00:15:31,068 right over this big piece of iron metal right here. 307 00:15:31,103 --> 00:15:34,137 It's just amazing to think that this forest has basically been growing back 308 00:15:34,172 --> 00:15:36,827 over the top of this wreckage for over 100 years. 309 00:15:36,862 --> 00:15:38,241 [Jess] All right, let me just take a picture. 310 00:15:38,275 --> 00:15:40,034 [Jess] As I'm standing on top of the wreckage 311 00:15:40,068 --> 00:15:42,620 where 96 people lost their lives, 312 00:15:42,655 --> 00:15:44,931 I'm suddenly struck with a heavy, uneasy feeling. 313 00:15:44,965 --> 00:15:50,310 There's probably a lot of train underneath where we can't even see it. 314 00:15:50,344 --> 00:15:54,310 I mean, it's a miracle that they found Sarah's diary 315 00:15:54,965 --> 00:15:57,620 in this debris field. 316 00:15:57,655 --> 00:16:01,034 [Jess] Some believe spirits will remain in the spot where their life ended, 317 00:16:01,068 --> 00:16:03,034 so the words from Sarah's journal and letters 318 00:16:03,068 --> 00:16:06,000 may help me reach out to her or the other avalanche victims. 319 00:16:07,137 --> 00:16:09,827 I'm gonna use Sarah's letters 320 00:16:09,862 --> 00:16:13,448 to do a bit of a bit of a call and response with this recorder. 321 00:16:13,482 --> 00:16:17,620 It's voice activated so it will record if anybody answers. 322 00:16:17,655 --> 00:16:20,965 -Okay. Are you recording? -Yeah, I'm recording. 323 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,551 Sarah, if you're with us, feel free to reach out and speak with us. 324 00:16:26,689 --> 00:16:30,586 "February 23rd, we're snowed in at the mouth of the tunnel, 325 00:16:30,620 --> 00:16:32,517 twenty minutes of00 a.m. 326 00:16:32,551 --> 00:16:34,724 I just got up from my bed. 327 00:16:34,758 --> 00:16:38,034 The mountains are beautiful, and we are all resting easy. 328 00:16:38,068 --> 00:16:39,931 They say it we may be here all day. 329 00:16:39,965 --> 00:16:42,206 The cars are warm and very nice." 330 00:16:42,724 --> 00:16:43,896 Let's review it. 331 00:16:46,137 --> 00:16:49,896 [recorder] February 23rd. We are snowed in at the mou... tunnel. 332 00:16:49,931 --> 00:16:51,689 Twenty minutes of eleven... 333 00:16:51,724 --> 00:16:55,448 Just got up from my bed... The mountain... beautiful and we are all resting... 334 00:16:55,482 --> 00:16:56,827 We may be here all day. 335 00:16:56,862 --> 00:16:58,724 Okay, this is really weird. 336 00:16:59,655 --> 00:17:01,724 Why is it skipping? 337 00:17:01,758 --> 00:17:05,551 It's supposed to run when it hears somebody talking. 338 00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,586 So why was it continuously getting interrupted? 339 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:13,068 Well, two options here. One, it's sucks at its job. 340 00:17:13,103 --> 00:17:15,137 Or two, there's some kind of interference. 341 00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:19,275 There's definitely a heavy vibe in the area. 342 00:17:19,310 --> 00:17:24,482 What I've been struck with is we've been to so many tragic places. 343 00:17:24,517 --> 00:17:29,689 I've never been to a place like this. Like, it just is depressing. 344 00:17:29,724 --> 00:17:31,379 -Really heavy. -Yeah. 345 00:17:31,413 --> 00:17:35,275 I think it's the tech, but also, Jess, we're just getting started here. 346 00:17:35,310 --> 00:17:37,034 Who knows what we're gonna find? 347 00:17:39,655 --> 00:17:41,137 [Jess] With the daylight fading fast, 348 00:17:41,172 --> 00:17:44,034 we make the tough climb back uphill to the snow shed. 349 00:17:48,172 --> 00:17:52,689 Once it's dark, we'll be able to better investigate Bert's video. 350 00:17:52,724 --> 00:17:54,379 Phil thinks it may have been an animal. 351 00:17:54,413 --> 00:17:56,827 But I think Bert may have captured an image 352 00:17:56,862 --> 00:17:59,862 of a lost spirit from the train disaster. 353 00:17:59,896 --> 00:18:04,965 -What if we set up the camera to just record this area? -Okay. 354 00:18:06,551 --> 00:18:10,862 [Jess] We aim a camera towards the pillar, and I set up a REM pod 355 00:18:10,896 --> 00:18:15,344 which will alert us to any electromagnetic disturbances from a paranormal presence. 356 00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:18,586 [Jess] Okay, REM pod's up. 357 00:18:21,275 --> 00:18:24,379 All right, so I'm going to stay here and do a little call and response. 358 00:18:24,413 --> 00:18:27,241 That's your territory, I know. I'm gonna try and set up some trail cams round here 359 00:18:27,275 --> 00:18:30,620 to get an idea of what wildlife do pass through this corridor. 360 00:18:30,655 --> 00:18:33,344 I think animals might be the real source 361 00:18:33,379 --> 00:18:35,482 of the sights and sounds people are reporting. 362 00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:40,655 -Okay, good luck out here. -Thanks, you too. 363 00:18:45,758 --> 00:18:47,620 Right here, guys. I think I've found the route up. 364 00:18:49,965 --> 00:18:53,344 [Phil] I'm going to inspect the rest of the snow shed top to bottom 365 00:18:53,379 --> 00:18:56,068 looking for signs of wildlife. 366 00:18:56,103 --> 00:18:58,965 Watch your step here. We've definitely got to tread lightly around here 367 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,758 because this is old concrete structure. 368 00:19:01,793 --> 00:19:05,206 We definitely saw parts of it that had caved in when we were down below. 369 00:19:05,241 --> 00:19:09,689 And we've got this ledge. If you fall off, that's a good 30-foot drop. 370 00:19:09,724 --> 00:19:11,965 So we'll be careful. 371 00:19:13,517 --> 00:19:15,448 [Jess] Since our other device was giving us problems, 372 00:19:15,482 --> 00:19:18,482 I'm going to switch to our 360 recorder, 373 00:19:18,517 --> 00:19:22,482 an ultrasensitive mic that will pick up sounds from all directions. 374 00:19:22,517 --> 00:19:23,758 Record. 375 00:19:23,793 --> 00:19:26,586 If anyone responds, we'll capture it. 376 00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:28,862 So the plan is that I'm gonna go ahead and set this 377 00:19:28,896 --> 00:19:30,862 so that we can do a calm response. 378 00:19:30,896 --> 00:19:32,758 I have Sarah's letters, 379 00:19:32,793 --> 00:19:34,827 I have the list of, uh, 380 00:19:34,862 --> 00:19:36,724 victims of the avalanche. 381 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:38,931 All right. We're good to go. 382 00:19:38,965 --> 00:19:41,034 Is there anyone here in the tunnel with us? 383 00:19:44,931 --> 00:19:47,137 What happened on the night of the avalanche? 384 00:19:53,551 --> 00:19:56,689 Sarah, were you disappointed that you weren't able to send off 385 00:19:56,724 --> 00:19:58,793 your final letters to your family? 386 00:20:08,862 --> 00:20:10,275 [Phil] All right. 387 00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:14,103 I've seen very little evidence of any animal activity. 388 00:20:14,137 --> 00:20:18,172 So, I'm gonna head back down, set a game cam right in the pathway 389 00:20:18,206 --> 00:20:20,793 where Bert reported some unusual activity. 390 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:26,034 Is there anybody here with us? 391 00:20:31,448 --> 00:20:34,137 Sarah, just so you know, those letters did make it to your 392 00:20:34,172 --> 00:20:36,275 great-great-granddaughter, Sheila. 393 00:20:38,482 --> 00:20:39,724 [EMF beeping] 394 00:20:44,551 --> 00:20:46,241 Are you standing over by the pillar? 395 00:20:52,931 --> 00:20:54,034 [faint whistling] 396 00:20:54,655 --> 00:20:55,793 What the [bleep]? 397 00:20:55,827 --> 00:20:56,758 Was that a whistle? 398 00:20:56,793 --> 00:20:58,103 [cameraman speaking] 399 00:21:14,620 --> 00:21:15,965 I'm loving this spot right here 400 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,103 because there are footprints all over the place. 401 00:21:19,137 --> 00:21:23,517 Which means this gets a lot of wildlife traffic, 402 00:21:23,551 --> 00:21:26,931 which means I'm gonna set up my trail cam right here. 403 00:21:38,620 --> 00:21:40,965 [Jess] Hello? Is there anyone here? 404 00:21:42,137 --> 00:21:43,137 [faint whistling] 405 00:21:43,172 --> 00:21:45,000 [shushes] Was that you? 406 00:21:45,655 --> 00:21:46,827 Did you just hear whistling? 407 00:21:46,862 --> 00:21:48,068 [cameraman speaking] 408 00:21:56,724 --> 00:21:58,000 [Jess] Is there anyone here? 409 00:21:59,413 --> 00:22:00,620 [faint whistling] 410 00:22:00,655 --> 00:22:02,000 [shushes] Was that you? 411 00:22:02,896 --> 00:22:03,862 Did you just hear whistling? 412 00:22:03,896 --> 00:22:05,206 [cameraman speaking] 413 00:22:16,689 --> 00:22:18,517 Hey, Phil? Were you guys just whistling? 414 00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:21,586 I heard that too. 415 00:22:22,172 --> 00:22:24,000 What was that? 416 00:22:24,034 --> 00:22:27,551 [Phil] A logical explanation might some kind of bird. 417 00:22:27,586 --> 00:22:31,344 Several species like chickadees or swallows do live here 418 00:22:31,379 --> 00:22:32,827 and have shrill chirps. 419 00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:34,034 [chirps] 420 00:22:34,448 --> 00:22:35,793 [chirping] 421 00:22:35,827 --> 00:22:39,068 But the sound we heard was a single sustained note. 422 00:22:39,103 --> 00:22:41,137 Not a warbling bird song. 423 00:22:43,137 --> 00:22:45,655 And most songbirds aren't nocturnal. 424 00:22:45,689 --> 00:22:48,137 So we'll see what our trail cams captured. 425 00:22:48,172 --> 00:22:50,517 [Jess] I heard like someone with a whistle 426 00:22:50,551 --> 00:22:52,000 right next to my ear. 427 00:22:52,034 --> 00:22:53,586 [Phil] That is really weird. 428 00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:56,551 Definitely sounded like it came from your direction. 429 00:22:56,586 --> 00:22:57,758 Let's meet back up. 430 00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,241 Let's figure out where we are with this thing. 431 00:22:59,965 --> 00:23:02,068 [Jess] Copy. 432 00:23:02,103 --> 00:23:06,241 [Phil] The whistling sound could also be a mixture of something entirely natural 433 00:23:06,275 --> 00:23:08,689 and something man made. 434 00:23:08,724 --> 00:23:14,000 In 2020, people noticed high pitched howling noises across San Francisco. 435 00:23:14,034 --> 00:23:16,931 An investigation determined the sound was wind blowing 436 00:23:16,965 --> 00:23:20,172 through the slats of a newly retrofitted sidewalk railing 437 00:23:20,206 --> 00:23:21,896 of the Golden Gate Bridge. 438 00:23:21,931 --> 00:23:24,862 It's possible that wind blowing through these pillars 439 00:23:24,896 --> 00:23:27,000 might also create some odd sounds. 440 00:23:27,034 --> 00:23:31,241 I've got something in my kit that I can use to put this idea to the test. 441 00:23:31,275 --> 00:23:33,344 -[whispering] Smoke bomb. -That's cool! 442 00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:37,344 We'll be able to see where the wind goes, 443 00:23:37,379 --> 00:23:39,620 if it weaves around some of these pillars. 444 00:23:39,655 --> 00:23:42,931 That kind of helps us visualize what the sound could be doing too 445 00:23:42,965 --> 00:23:45,241 to get distorted through here. 446 00:23:45,275 --> 00:23:47,448 -Are you ready for this, Jess? Okay. -Yeah. 447 00:23:56,586 --> 00:24:00,344 It's barely going past these pillars. 448 00:24:00,379 --> 00:24:01,482 [Jess] Mm-hmm. 449 00:24:01,517 --> 00:24:05,758 [Phil] So it's really just a straight shot down. 450 00:24:07,862 --> 00:24:10,241 I was hoping to see some gusts coming through. 451 00:24:11,068 --> 00:24:12,482 Some vortices. 452 00:24:12,517 --> 00:24:14,034 [whispers] Absolutely nothing. 453 00:24:14,068 --> 00:24:18,517 [Jess] I mean, it doesn't seem breezy enough to make any whistling noises. 454 00:24:18,551 --> 00:24:21,241 [Phil] Wind didn't cause the whistling sound we heard tonight. 455 00:24:21,724 --> 00:24:23,137 So what did? 456 00:24:23,172 --> 00:24:26,551 [Jess] That whistle was definitely a response from someone. 457 00:24:26,586 --> 00:24:27,896 One thing that's certain, 458 00:24:27,931 --> 00:24:30,724 this place is really unsettling, 459 00:24:30,758 --> 00:24:32,068 even Phil seems to feel it. 460 00:24:32,103 --> 00:24:33,551 -We have a camera that's gonna pick up... -Game cam. 461 00:24:33,586 --> 00:24:34,931 ...whatever walks around here. 462 00:24:34,965 --> 00:24:37,310 -Mm-hmm. -So, I say we call it a night 463 00:24:37,344 --> 00:24:41,517 -because this place is creepy. I wanna get out of here. -It's creepy. 464 00:24:41,551 --> 00:24:44,655 But why? It's just animals, Phil. 465 00:24:44,689 --> 00:24:46,172 Don't worry about it. 466 00:24:46,206 --> 00:24:48,275 [Phil] Jess, some of those animals could be a mountain lion. 467 00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:49,655 -That would suck, yes. -You know? 468 00:24:54,034 --> 00:24:56,620 [Phil] I've been thinking about possible explanations 469 00:24:56,655 --> 00:24:57,965 for what's going on around here 470 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,793 and I wanna run a theory past Josh. 471 00:25:00,931 --> 00:25:01,827 [Josh] Hey, you two. 472 00:25:01,862 --> 00:25:03,103 -Hey, Josh! -Josh! 473 00:25:03,137 --> 00:25:05,137 [Josh] I'm eager to hear how it's going out there. 474 00:25:05,172 --> 00:25:10,000 Jess, were you able to make contact with the spirits of the train passengers? 475 00:25:10,034 --> 00:25:11,620 [Jess] I'm not sure yet. 476 00:25:11,655 --> 00:25:14,275 I reached out and I got some strange responses. 477 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:15,413 A whistle. 478 00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:17,896 What like a train whistle or like a person whistling? 479 00:25:17,931 --> 00:25:20,275 [Jess] More like a whistle you'd blow. 480 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,517 Listen to this. 481 00:25:21,551 --> 00:25:23,448 [faint whistling] 482 00:25:23,482 --> 00:25:25,965 So did train conductors carry whistles? 483 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,896 You know that actually does sound kind of like those old time conductor whistles. 484 00:25:29,931 --> 00:25:31,862 Right? The ones that they would wear around their necks. 485 00:25:32,724 --> 00:25:34,517 [blows whistle] 486 00:25:34,551 --> 00:25:38,758 And there were something like 60 crew members who died in that disaster. 487 00:25:38,793 --> 00:25:41,551 [Jess] I feel like I need to learn more about the crew. 488 00:25:41,586 --> 00:25:44,586 Phil, you thought the wind could have been making the noises 489 00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:46,379 that people were hearing out there. 490 00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:49,482 And what do you think now? Could that have been what caused the whistling? 491 00:25:49,517 --> 00:25:50,965 [Phil] Well, there was no wind that night, 492 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,862 so I don't know what made that whistle. 493 00:25:52,896 --> 00:25:54,344 I think we should analyze it 494 00:25:54,379 --> 00:25:57,275 against the sounds of any known animals when we get back. 495 00:25:57,310 --> 00:26:01,103 [Jess] The other odd thing is that we all felt kind of just off. 496 00:26:01,137 --> 00:26:04,241 Like a little nauseous and very uncomfortable. 497 00:26:04,275 --> 00:26:06,206 And we read that about this place, right? 498 00:26:06,241 --> 00:26:11,000 That some of the witnesses have noted feeling this unease and sense of dread there. 499 00:26:11,034 --> 00:26:13,620 Well, Wellington's not at a high enough elevation 500 00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:15,931 for something like altitude sickness. 501 00:26:15,965 --> 00:26:18,586 [Phil] I felt that before. This was something else. 502 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:23,034 Pretty much everybody last night felt weird. 503 00:26:23,068 --> 00:26:25,172 Experienced strange feelings. 504 00:26:25,206 --> 00:26:27,344 Yes we were at a place where a lot of people died 505 00:26:27,379 --> 00:26:30,586 but I'm also wondering if there's something else going on here 506 00:26:30,620 --> 00:26:34,655 and that would be a sound that we can't actually hear. 507 00:26:34,689 --> 00:26:36,103 What do you mean a sound we can't hear? 508 00:26:36,137 --> 00:26:38,000 You mean like, infrasound or something? 509 00:26:38,379 --> 00:26:39,482 Exactly. 510 00:26:39,517 --> 00:26:41,068 So that's an interesting idea, right? 511 00:26:41,103 --> 00:26:45,172 I mean there are these frequencies that we can't actually hear with our ears 512 00:26:45,206 --> 00:26:49,689 but scientists do suspect that they can impact how we feel. 513 00:26:49,724 --> 00:26:51,827 They can make people feel uneasy or scared. 514 00:26:51,862 --> 00:26:54,758 It's even been suggested that those sort of frequencies 515 00:26:54,793 --> 00:26:57,517 could be what makes a place seem haunted. 516 00:26:57,551 --> 00:27:01,620 Okay, well, if that's the case, then, where would the infrasound even come from? 517 00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:03,137 I guess that's the question. 518 00:27:03,172 --> 00:27:05,000 It's known to come from seismic activity, 519 00:27:05,034 --> 00:27:06,827 it can come from traffic, 520 00:27:06,862 --> 00:27:08,827 there's a lot of different sources out there, 521 00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:11,206 but I do wonder if it's railroad connected. 522 00:27:11,241 --> 00:27:12,896 -[train horn blowing] -Oh, you hear that train right now? 523 00:27:12,931 --> 00:27:14,068 [Jess] I do. 524 00:27:14,103 --> 00:27:15,551 [Phil] Josh, I'm not sure you can if hear right now, 525 00:27:15,586 --> 00:27:18,413 but there is a train going by somewhere in the distance. 526 00:27:18,448 --> 00:27:20,034 Still an active railroad area 527 00:27:20,068 --> 00:27:22,241 which actually could lead into the infrasound theory 528 00:27:22,275 --> 00:27:24,620 that maybe could be a train passing by. 529 00:27:24,655 --> 00:27:27,275 That's a cool theory, Phil. I would love to have you test it out. 530 00:27:27,310 --> 00:27:30,275 And, Jess, if you think the site is potentially haunted 531 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:33,068 not just by passengers but maybe by the crew, 532 00:27:33,103 --> 00:27:36,172 I have located someone who you absolutely have to meet. 533 00:27:36,206 --> 00:27:41,482 I found this railway historian who has extensively researched this incident 534 00:27:41,517 --> 00:27:43,206 and the people involved. 535 00:27:43,241 --> 00:27:45,482 [Jess] Great, send us the info, we'll go meet him. 536 00:27:45,517 --> 00:27:46,551 -[Josh] Great. -Sweet. 537 00:27:46,586 --> 00:27:48,137 -Awesome. Bye, Josh. -We'll meet up with him. 538 00:27:48,172 --> 00:27:49,034 [Josh] See you later. 539 00:27:53,241 --> 00:27:56,206 I'm sending Phil and Jess to meet Kevin Weiderstrom. 540 00:27:56,241 --> 00:27:58,068 A retired Boeing mechanic, 541 00:27:58,103 --> 00:28:01,275 he now maintains the historic Skykomish Depot. 542 00:28:01,310 --> 00:28:05,344 He's had a lifelong fascination with the story of the Wellington train disaster. 543 00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:10,379 He thinks there's more to the story than anyone has heard. 544 00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:11,931 They tried to keep the death toll down. 545 00:28:11,965 --> 00:28:14,827 I personally think that there were a lot more people killed. 546 00:28:14,862 --> 00:28:16,862 -So you're saying there is a bit of a cover up? -Yes. 547 00:28:26,103 --> 00:28:29,103 -So you're saying there is a bit of a cover up? -Yes. 548 00:28:29,137 --> 00:28:33,241 -More people than 96 died? -Yes, probably up to 150. 549 00:28:33,275 --> 00:28:37,379 Lot of the other people were transient workers, they work couple of days and leave. 550 00:28:37,413 --> 00:28:40,758 So there's been nothing officially documenting saying they were there? 551 00:28:40,793 --> 00:28:41,931 No. Not at all. 552 00:28:41,965 --> 00:28:43,689 -Wow. -They tried to keep the death toll down 553 00:28:43,724 --> 00:28:45,103 because people get scared. 554 00:28:45,137 --> 00:28:46,482 It was a psychological thing 555 00:28:46,517 --> 00:28:49,862 as well as a thing for the railroad to keep in business. 556 00:28:51,344 --> 00:28:54,206 [Jess] How were they able to get all of the bodies out of there? 557 00:28:54,241 --> 00:28:56,931 Well, it took weeks, they were taking the bodies, 558 00:28:56,965 --> 00:29:01,620 they put them on toboggans and went down all the way to Windy Point. 559 00:29:01,655 --> 00:29:03,551 Down the dead man's slide by rope. 560 00:29:03,586 --> 00:29:07,068 It's 800 to 1,000 feet down the side of the mountain, 561 00:29:07,103 --> 00:29:09,655 and right down here at Scenic, that's where they went. 562 00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:14,137 -Obviously the old train route's no longer in use. -Right. 563 00:29:14,172 --> 00:29:15,896 But there's still a train that goes through here, 564 00:29:15,931 --> 00:29:17,689 -I mean we saw train tracks right outside. -Sure. Right. 565 00:29:17,724 --> 00:29:19,482 So does it pass by this area? 566 00:29:19,517 --> 00:29:22,000 It is below it, about a 1,000 feet below it. 567 00:29:24,034 --> 00:29:26,689 [Jess] Considering the strange whistle we heard last night, 568 00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:29,758 I wonder about the conductor on the doomed train. 569 00:29:29,793 --> 00:29:33,310 Could the sound be his signal from the other side? 570 00:29:33,344 --> 00:29:35,896 So, I wanna know about the conductor. What's his story? 571 00:29:35,931 --> 00:29:36,793 Pettit. 572 00:29:37,827 --> 00:29:39,896 [Phil] Kevin tells us that Joseph Pettit 573 00:29:39,931 --> 00:29:42,379 was one of the handful of people who left the train 574 00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:44,965 and hiked nearly four miles to safety. 575 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,206 But with passengers stranded on his train, 576 00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:50,241 the conductor didn't just walk away. 577 00:29:50,275 --> 00:29:51,482 [Kevin] He was trying to get help. 578 00:29:51,517 --> 00:29:55,068 But he made his way back to the train 579 00:29:55,103 --> 00:29:57,620 and unfortunately he was killed in the avalanche. 580 00:29:59,448 --> 00:30:01,275 But that's beyond just doing your duty, 581 00:30:01,310 --> 00:30:03,586 -I mean he climbed a mountain for these people... -Right. 582 00:30:03,620 --> 00:30:05,448 ...and then died in the avalanche. 583 00:30:05,482 --> 00:30:06,896 -Died in the avalanche. -That is tragic. 584 00:30:06,931 --> 00:30:08,620 -So bad. -Yeah. 585 00:30:08,655 --> 00:30:12,448 [Jess] Armed with new information about where and who to investigate, 586 00:30:12,482 --> 00:30:14,862 we head back to the site of the disaster, 587 00:30:14,896 --> 00:30:16,517 the snow shed. 588 00:30:16,551 --> 00:30:20,103 [Phil] I think infrasound waves coming from trains on the new set of tracks 589 00:30:20,137 --> 00:30:22,379 could be causing strange sensations 590 00:30:22,413 --> 00:30:25,344 that people might mistake for paranormal activity 591 00:30:25,379 --> 00:30:26,344 at the avalanche site. 592 00:30:30,689 --> 00:30:32,758 -So check this thing out. -Yeah, what is that? 593 00:30:32,793 --> 00:30:35,103 -This is a special microphone. -Oh. 594 00:30:35,137 --> 00:30:38,275 That can hear super high frequency 595 00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:40,103 and super low frequencies. 596 00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:42,758 -Anything 20 and above, we can hear. -Uh-huh. Got it. 597 00:30:42,793 --> 00:30:45,448 But once it gets too low, that becomes infrasound 598 00:30:45,482 --> 00:30:47,931 -and that's really what I'm interested in. -I see. Okay, gotcha. 599 00:30:47,965 --> 00:30:50,586 Lot of animals can hear infrasound 600 00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:52,241 and communicate through infrasound. 601 00:30:52,275 --> 00:30:53,413 -But we can't hear it. -Uh-huh. 602 00:30:53,448 --> 00:30:56,655 But the theory is, and it's even been proven in a lab, 603 00:30:56,689 --> 00:30:58,931 that it can make people feel weird, 604 00:30:58,965 --> 00:31:01,758 certain frequencies can vibrate your eyeballs 605 00:31:01,793 --> 00:31:03,413 and make you almost see things. 606 00:31:03,448 --> 00:31:05,551 -That's kind of cool -I know. 607 00:31:05,586 --> 00:31:07,586 -So we've got this one set here. -Uh-huh. 608 00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:11,275 What I need to test is if when a train goes by at Windy point 609 00:31:11,310 --> 00:31:17,137 is that sound strong enough to essentially pass through a mountain and hit here. 610 00:31:17,172 --> 00:31:19,896 So if we get a really big spike 611 00:31:19,931 --> 00:31:21,793 this thing is connected to my phone 612 00:31:21,827 --> 00:31:23,482 and it will send me a message. 613 00:31:23,517 --> 00:31:26,275 So potentially what happens over there 614 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:28,724 could be correlated with what happens over here. 615 00:31:28,758 --> 00:31:31,827 -We've got ourselves a long hike ahead. -Oh, yes we do! 616 00:31:34,793 --> 00:31:37,000 [Jess] These were conductor Pettit's last steps 617 00:31:37,034 --> 00:31:40,793 and the route used by rescuers to recover dozens of bodies. 618 00:31:41,344 --> 00:31:42,586 [Phil] Wow! 619 00:31:44,448 --> 00:31:46,034 I'm getting tired. 620 00:31:46,068 --> 00:31:47,482 [Jess] I'm getting tired too. 621 00:31:47,517 --> 00:31:52,068 [Phil] This is a long way walk in not through overhead height snow. 622 00:31:52,103 --> 00:31:54,275 -[Jess] Yeah. -And not carrying a body behind you. 623 00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:56,758 And not worrying about an avalanche falling on top of you. 624 00:31:56,793 --> 00:31:58,448 [Phil] Yeah. 625 00:31:58,482 --> 00:32:01,896 -You feel that cold air? -[Jess] Yeah. Ooh! 626 00:32:01,931 --> 00:32:04,689 -Man, all the way from here you can feel that. -[Phil] Wow. 627 00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:07,862 [Jess] Oh, how cool is this? 628 00:32:07,896 --> 00:32:10,068 -Look at this thing! -[Phil] Ooh, that... 629 00:32:10,103 --> 00:32:13,655 -That's a huge tunnel! -[Phil] ...is a huge tunnel. 630 00:32:13,689 --> 00:32:15,034 Look at the size of this thing. 631 00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:17,758 -Wow. -[Jess] All right. 632 00:32:17,793 --> 00:32:20,862 I mean that gets super dark, you wanna bust out the flashlights? 633 00:32:25,482 --> 00:32:26,862 At the far end of this, 634 00:32:26,896 --> 00:32:28,172 that's where the dead man's slide is, 635 00:32:28,206 --> 00:32:30,551 where both the survivors went 636 00:32:30,586 --> 00:32:33,241 -and where all the dead bodies went down. -Exactly. 637 00:32:33,275 --> 00:32:34,965 So, I think while we have some daylight, 638 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,586 we should try to book it to the far end. 639 00:32:41,758 --> 00:32:44,793 -This is uh, spooky. -[Jess] This is creepy. 640 00:32:44,827 --> 00:32:46,103 [Jess] Spooky. 641 00:32:46,137 --> 00:32:47,793 [Phil] Oh, we've got a cave in up here. 642 00:32:47,827 --> 00:32:48,896 [Jess] Yeah. 643 00:32:48,931 --> 00:32:50,931 So really the only thing protecting us 644 00:32:50,965 --> 00:32:54,275 are old wooden beams from the original tunnel. 645 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:57,413 -That's comforting. Excellent. -That's something. Yeah. 646 00:32:57,448 --> 00:33:00,275 -Great. Cool. Let's keep walking. -[Phil] Perfect. 647 00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:04,206 [Jess] This tunnel is a quarter mile long and pitch black. 648 00:33:04,241 --> 00:33:06,241 There is a definite chill in the air 649 00:33:06,275 --> 00:33:09,931 and I'm not convinced it's just the temperature. 650 00:33:09,965 --> 00:33:12,068 [Phil] This thing is quite the piece of engineering. 651 00:33:12,103 --> 00:33:15,000 [Jess] Oh, yeah. Kind of scary. 652 00:33:16,103 --> 00:33:17,724 Which means right down here 653 00:33:17,758 --> 00:33:20,620 -this should be dead man's slide. -Oh, dead man's slide? 654 00:33:22,724 --> 00:33:24,379 [both panting] 655 00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:25,482 [Phil] This is insane. 656 00:33:25,517 --> 00:33:27,068 [Jess] So this is it? 657 00:33:27,103 --> 00:33:29,172 [Phil] This is it. 658 00:33:29,206 --> 00:33:31,000 -Look how steep that is. -[Jess] Let me see. 659 00:33:31,896 --> 00:33:33,068 Careful! 660 00:33:33,103 --> 00:33:34,034 Oh, my gosh! 661 00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:36,068 Phil, I am uncomfortable with you doing that. 662 00:33:37,793 --> 00:33:41,482 -Oh, yeah that is so steep! -[Phil] Wow. 663 00:33:41,517 --> 00:33:46,655 -Look how far down this goes. -Imagine trying to transport bodies 664 00:33:46,689 --> 00:33:49,241 in the winter down this. 665 00:33:49,275 --> 00:33:52,965 This is about, what? A 1,000 foot elevation drop? 666 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,206 And imagine the conductor, Pettit. 667 00:33:55,241 --> 00:33:57,103 -He was stuck back there in a blizzard. -[Jess] Yeah. 668 00:33:57,137 --> 00:33:59,896 Would have to get here, get all the way down the mountain, 669 00:33:59,931 --> 00:34:01,310 ask for help, 670 00:34:01,344 --> 00:34:02,724 climb all the way back up 671 00:34:02,758 --> 00:34:07,068 and then miles back to the train only to be killed in an avalanche. 672 00:34:07,103 --> 00:34:11,448 -Yep. That's rough. -That is some heroic effort with a tragic ending. 673 00:34:11,482 --> 00:34:13,413 Yeah, that is rough. 674 00:34:13,448 --> 00:34:15,344 All right, let's just set up for the investigation. 675 00:34:15,379 --> 00:34:17,655 All right, yeah. The sooner we get going the better. 676 00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:18,758 [Jess] Mm-hmm. 677 00:34:20,586 --> 00:34:23,655 All right, Jess, somewhere down in that valley is a modern train. 678 00:34:23,689 --> 00:34:25,172 -Yeah. -So, I'm gonna go 679 00:34:25,206 --> 00:34:27,000 down the trail on the outside of the tunnel 680 00:34:27,034 --> 00:34:28,655 and see if I can get a good eye line on it. 681 00:34:28,689 --> 00:34:30,310 Okay, I'm gonna go back inside the tunnel, 682 00:34:30,344 --> 00:34:32,655 I wanna try and track for any paranormal activity 683 00:34:32,689 --> 00:34:35,068 and see if it matches up with you're finding, 684 00:34:35,103 --> 00:34:37,241 on your end because if it does, 685 00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:39,862 then maybe your theory is correct and if it doesn't, 686 00:34:39,896 --> 00:34:43,034 then maybe my theory is correct and it might be haunted. 687 00:34:43,068 --> 00:34:44,310 -I'll take that wager. -All right. 688 00:34:44,344 --> 00:34:45,620 -So you got your walkie on you? -Sure do. 689 00:34:48,275 --> 00:34:49,103 Look at that. 690 00:34:51,068 --> 00:34:53,689 Right there. Wow. 691 00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:56,896 Active train track way closer than I thought it would be 692 00:34:56,931 --> 00:34:58,172 and there's the tunnel. 693 00:34:58,206 --> 00:35:02,448 This is right next to the old track just 1,000 feet below. 694 00:35:03,379 --> 00:35:05,000 Okay. This is gonna be good. 695 00:35:07,862 --> 00:35:10,172 [Jess] I head back towards the entrance of the tunnel 696 00:35:10,206 --> 00:35:12,862 and set up for a call and response session. 697 00:35:12,896 --> 00:35:14,586 All right, this seems to be a good spot. 698 00:35:16,275 --> 00:35:18,517 I'm going to reach out to conductor Pettit 699 00:35:18,551 --> 00:35:22,068 or any of the other lost souls whose bodies were transported through here. 700 00:35:22,103 --> 00:35:23,000 All right. 701 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:24,551 [machine humming] 702 00:35:31,655 --> 00:35:33,206 Is there anybody here with us? 703 00:35:37,034 --> 00:35:40,517 Were you one of the passengers 704 00:35:40,551 --> 00:35:43,896 on the train that was hit by the avalanche in 1910? 705 00:35:46,206 --> 00:35:48,379 Conductor Pettit, can you hear me? 706 00:35:52,379 --> 00:35:55,206 [Phil] All I have to do here is wait for a train. 707 00:35:55,241 --> 00:35:58,620 I'm expecting that seconds after a train rumbles through 708 00:35:58,655 --> 00:36:02,103 we'll get a notification from the meter back at the avalanche site. 709 00:36:02,137 --> 00:36:04,206 Saying that it's picking up infrasound. 710 00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:07,103 [Jess] Did you work for the railroad? 711 00:36:12,034 --> 00:36:16,275 Are you angry that the railroad company tried to cover up so many deaths? 712 00:36:19,241 --> 00:36:20,724 [machine beeping] 713 00:36:20,758 --> 00:36:22,793 Joseph Pettit, is that you? 714 00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:28,862 Oh, [bleep]! 715 00:36:29,862 --> 00:36:31,413 Ah, [bleep]! 716 00:36:31,448 --> 00:36:32,620 That was weird. 717 00:36:40,034 --> 00:36:42,275 [Josh] The 1910 Wellington avalanche 718 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:46,172 compelled researchers to figure out ways to prevent future disasters. 719 00:36:47,137 --> 00:36:49,758 One method is to set up snow fences, 720 00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:52,620 which can help control accumulation on the slopes. 721 00:36:53,275 --> 00:36:55,103 Another way? Explosives. 722 00:36:55,137 --> 00:36:56,517 [explosion] 723 00:36:58,137 --> 00:37:01,655 Intentionally using detonations to fracture the snow pack 724 00:37:01,689 --> 00:37:04,103 and trigger controlled slides, 725 00:37:04,137 --> 00:37:06,896 reducing the risks of unpredictable ones. 726 00:37:06,931 --> 00:37:10,827 That's done either by shooting the mountain side with live artillery rounds. 727 00:37:11,482 --> 00:37:12,896 [explosion] 728 00:37:16,413 --> 00:37:18,689 Or dropping charges from a helicopter. 729 00:37:22,551 --> 00:37:25,655 Or even having a very brave ski patrol 730 00:37:25,689 --> 00:37:27,413 place explosives by hand. 731 00:37:27,448 --> 00:37:28,862 [explosion] 732 00:37:33,172 --> 00:37:36,103 Which I have to admit looks like a total blast. 733 00:37:43,517 --> 00:37:45,275 Oh, [bleep]! 734 00:37:46,517 --> 00:37:48,034 Ah, [bleep]! 735 00:37:48,068 --> 00:37:49,517 That was weird. 736 00:37:49,551 --> 00:37:53,620 The bizarre nauseated feeling we had at the crash site is back. 737 00:37:54,448 --> 00:37:55,793 Phil, do you copy? 738 00:37:58,655 --> 00:37:59,862 [Phil] Yeah, what's up? 739 00:38:00,862 --> 00:38:03,000 [Jess] I had that queasy feeling again. 740 00:38:03,034 --> 00:38:05,655 It was so weird. 741 00:38:05,689 --> 00:38:07,655 I actually had to take the headphones off. 742 00:38:07,689 --> 00:38:10,896 Are you getting any readings on your meter just now? 743 00:38:10,931 --> 00:38:12,620 Do you see any trains coming through? 744 00:38:13,344 --> 00:38:14,586 [Phil] Stand by. 745 00:38:17,689 --> 00:38:19,137 [train horn blaring] 746 00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:21,275 Okay, you see that light? Right there. Right there. There's the train. 747 00:38:23,517 --> 00:38:24,896 Hear that rumble? 748 00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:26,965 We got a hit! 749 00:38:27,758 --> 00:38:29,379 [Phil] Jess! Jess! You there? 750 00:38:29,413 --> 00:38:30,689 Yeah, copy. 751 00:38:30,724 --> 00:38:32,689 Jess, we just got the first hit 752 00:38:32,724 --> 00:38:36,655 from the infrasound meter miles away at the avalanche crash site. 753 00:38:36,689 --> 00:38:37,655 I'm gonna come your way 754 00:38:37,689 --> 00:38:39,793 because I got the results I was looking for, 755 00:38:39,827 --> 00:38:41,862 so I wanna see what was happening on your end. 756 00:38:41,896 --> 00:38:44,000 Okay. I'll pack up and meet you. 757 00:38:44,034 --> 00:38:45,379 All right. Coming in. Coming in. 758 00:38:50,827 --> 00:38:54,620 Wow, we got a major, like huge spike 759 00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:57,724 on the infrasound back at the avalanche site. 760 00:38:57,758 --> 00:38:59,896 You combine with the tragic history, 761 00:38:59,931 --> 00:39:02,931 I think there's a chance that some of the paranormal experiences 762 00:39:02,965 --> 00:39:05,241 they could be explained... 763 00:39:05,275 --> 00:39:07,137 -Mm-hmm. -...by that combination. 764 00:39:07,172 --> 00:39:10,724 [Jess] The REM pod went off in the tunnel right before the train arrived. 765 00:39:10,758 --> 00:39:14,000 But that device doesn't react to infrasound. 766 00:39:14,034 --> 00:39:16,931 Maybe the train is acting as some sort of trigger 767 00:39:16,965 --> 00:39:19,586 for the ghosts of the avalanche victims, you know? 768 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,344 I heard whistling next to my ear 769 00:39:23,379 --> 00:39:26,827 when we were over at the actual crash site. 770 00:39:26,862 --> 00:39:29,344 -Mm-hmm. -That wasn't infrasound. 771 00:39:29,379 --> 00:39:32,172 The mind can play a lot of tricks on you 772 00:39:32,206 --> 00:39:34,206 when you wanna hear what you wanna hear. 773 00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:36,896 I'd be interested in analyzing the audio that you got... 774 00:39:36,931 --> 00:39:38,896 -Yeah. -...just to see if we can pick it apart better 775 00:39:38,931 --> 00:39:41,620 and figure what that actual noise was. 776 00:39:47,862 --> 00:39:50,034 [Josh] When Phil and Jess returned from Washington, 777 00:39:50,068 --> 00:39:52,689 we isolated the whistle sound from our footage. 778 00:39:53,517 --> 00:39:54,758 [whistling] 779 00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:57,655 We compared it to the vocalizations 780 00:39:57,689 --> 00:40:00,241 of birds and mammals known to live in the region. 781 00:40:01,344 --> 00:40:02,586 [chirping] 782 00:40:07,275 --> 00:40:09,862 The whistle sound doesn't match up with any of them. 783 00:40:11,206 --> 00:40:14,931 Our cameras did capture various animals around the snow shed. 784 00:40:14,965 --> 00:40:18,241 But none of them seemed consistent with the ghostly figure 785 00:40:18,275 --> 00:40:19,172 caught on video. 786 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,827 We analyzed the audio of Jess's call and response at the snow shed 787 00:40:26,862 --> 00:40:27,965 and at the tunnel. 788 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,310 [Jess] Is there anyone here in the tunnel with us? 789 00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:33,000 [Josh] And there were a few strange sounds. 790 00:40:33,034 --> 00:40:37,896 But no singing, humming or anything we could identify as a voice. 791 00:40:37,931 --> 00:40:41,620 And there's no easy answer for what happened with Jess's recorder 792 00:40:41,655 --> 00:40:44,793 as she read aloud the words of an avalanche victim. 793 00:40:44,827 --> 00:40:46,482 [Jess or recorder] Mountain... beautiful and we're all... 794 00:40:46,517 --> 00:40:48,068 [Jess] Okay, this is really weird. 795 00:40:48,103 --> 00:40:49,655 [Josh] We had the device checked out 796 00:40:49,689 --> 00:40:52,758 and it is in perfect working order. 797 00:40:52,793 --> 00:40:57,724 So, can we conclude whether lost souls from the Wellington train disaster 798 00:40:57,758 --> 00:40:59,655 still haunt that mountainside? 799 00:40:59,689 --> 00:41:01,620 A reaction to infrasound 800 00:41:01,655 --> 00:41:03,517 is a rational explanation 801 00:41:03,551 --> 00:41:07,206 for some of the alleged paranormal experiences reported. 802 00:41:07,241 --> 00:41:08,862 But as Jess points out, 803 00:41:08,896 --> 00:41:11,862 it can't explain everything that witnesses have heard 804 00:41:11,896 --> 00:41:12,827 and seen. 805 00:41:13,931 --> 00:41:16,103 In light of such a terrible tragedy 806 00:41:16,137 --> 00:41:19,896 perhaps there is some comfort in believing that the spirit of Conductor Pettit 807 00:41:19,931 --> 00:41:21,862 is still looking out for his passengers 808 00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,000 that remain stranded. 809 00:41:23,724 --> 00:41:24,448 [whistle blows] 810 00:41:25,965 --> 00:41:28,965 Perhaps he's making sure their lives and their loss 811 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,965 will not be forgotten and buried by time. 812 00:41:34,137 --> 00:41:36,068 For more information on Expedition X 813 00:41:36,103 --> 00:41:39,413 head to discovery.com/expeditionx. 66977

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